00:00 <switchcat> I think I'm going to try to uninstall boinc and start over again
00:01 <switchcat> it seems like i'm not producing results, or if I am, who knows.
00:01 <PovAddict> first remove the package
00:01 <PovAddict> then I'll help you cleanup that mess, only after that reinstall
00:01 <PovAddict> wonder how the hell your computer got full of those .cfg's
00:07 <MTughan> O_O
00:08 <MTughan> Actually we can
00:09 <MTughan> ... find out which BOINC is right.
00:09 <MTughan> which boinc_cmd
00:11 <switchcat> whats the most uptodate version? boinc.berkeley.edu is saying download 5.8.16, ubuntu package manager is saying 5.8.17 and the channel topic seems to give me the impression 5.10.21
00:12 <MTughan> For Linux? I though 5.10.8...
00:12 <MTughan> Now that's source. Don't know what Ubuntu binaries are like.
00:12 <PovAddict> 5.10.21 was released recently for all three platforms
00:13 <switchcat> anybody know of a 'repository' for boinc?
00:13 <Soul_keeper> and it runs great :)
00:13 <PovAddict> but is still marked as 'alpha'
00:13 <PovAddict> ...even though it runs great
00:13 <MTughan> Okay, so 5.10.8 for "stable".
00:13 <PovAddict> switchcat: what are you looking for exactly?
00:14 <switchcat> povaddict - are you familiar with the ubuntu packaging system?
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00:14 <PovAddict> switchcat: ah right
00:15 <PovAddict> well, what you see on the official ubuntu is the most up-to-date .deb's for BOINC that exist
00:15 <PovAddict> actually, the one on Gutsy is the most up-to-date one
00:16 <switchcat> 5.8.17 is what I already had installed, I wanted to try to install something more up-to-date.
00:16 <PovAddict> just any 5.10
00:16 <PovAddict> compile from source for extra fun
00:17 <MTughan> Extra "fun"?
00:17 <PovAddict> (WARNING: sarcasm)
00:17 <switchcat> eh, the reason I went with ubuntu is laziness.
00:17 <PovAddict> lol
00:17 <switchcat> otherwise I would have installed slackware.
00:17 <MTughan> So don't do source.
00:18 <MTughan> Hmm... I should have an Ubuntu install DVD somewhere...
00:19 <MTughan> Hmm... Mandriva, Knoppix, Xandros, and SUSE... But no Ubuntu it seems.
00:20 <MTughan> Well, this is where 500KB/s download speeds come in handy.
00:20 <PovAddict> h8
00:20 <MTughan> >:)
00:21 <MTughan> Hmm... Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
00:21 <PovAddict> Ubuntu has GNOME, Kubuntu has KDE
00:21 <MTughan> Ah, I'll last with GNOME.
00:21 <PovAddict> on both you can change it
00:21 <MTughan> I know the difference.
00:21 <PovAddict> but means more downloading
00:22 <MTughan> Not like I'm short on bandwidth.
00:22 <PovAddict> H8
00:22 <MTughan> Like I said before, >:)
00:23 <MTughan> Which would be better to get? 7.04 or 6.06LTS?
00:23 <switchcat> ah well I think I'm gonna go watch the episode of Las Vegas that I missed
00:23 <switchcat> well, as was stated there's a new version (7.10) coming out real-soon-now)
00:23 <PovAddict> get 7.04 better
00:23 <switchcat> 7.04 is good
00:23 <MTughan> 7.10 is in beta.
00:23 <PovAddict> oh I didn't know 7.10 was so close to release
00:23 <MTughan> Okay, 7.04 it is.
00:23 <MTughan> Or 7.10?
00:24 <PovAddict> get .04
00:24 <Romulus> Title: Ubuntu 7.10 Beta Release | Ubuntu (at www.ubuntu.com)
00:25 <MTughan> Hmm... What's the difference between the desktop and server editions?
00:25 <PovAddict> basically, desktop one is a livecd that can be installed with a graphical installer
00:26 <PovAddict> server one can't be run live, I'm not sure if it has graphical installer or ncurses-based; also maybe some packages are different
00:26 <PovAddict> well, seems this java applet didn't like 2000x1000 images
00:26 <MTughan> Duh...
00:27 <PovAddict> ok, actually was 4000x2000
00:27 <MTughan> Double-duh? No, quadruple-duh...
00:27 <PovAddict> scaled to half in gimp, loaded
00:27 <MTughan> Okay, so just "Duh" then.
00:28 <MTughan> 22 minutes to download, 520.4KB/s. >:)
00:28 <PovAddict> !
00:29 <MTughan> Oh, on the Ubuntu homepage. Missed this before. Countdown to Gutsy. 11 days.
00:29 <Romulus> Title: Ubuntu Countdown | Ubuntu (at www.ubuntu.com)
00:30 <PovAddict> as usual, I'll provide 12KB/s extra to the torrents :P
00:30 <MTughan> lol
00:30 <MTughan> Wait, are there torrents for Ubuntu?
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00:30 <MTughan> Ah, there they are.
00:30 <Romulus> Title: Complete Download Options List | Ubuntu (at www.ubuntu.com)
00:31 <PovAddict> (webmaster: THANKS for not adding anchors to the page)
00:31 <PovAddict> /downloadmirrors#bittorrent would have been better
00:34 <MTughan> Okay, 504KB/s with torrent.
00:38 <MTughan> I was going to download the Gutsy beta, but with the release version less than two weeks away, there's no point.
00:45 * PovAddict sends another message to metalink google groups
00:45 <PovAddict> I hope 7.10 has official metalinks
00:45 <PovAddict> 7.04 release was a mess
00:45 <PovAddict> some impressive mirror overloads
00:45 <Romulus> there's also a fix you get a bonus - a well-crafted algorithm however...
00:49 <MTughan> 70% done...
00:49 <switchcat> 'official metalinks'?
00:50 <PovAddict> switchcat: download this and open it with a text editor
00:51 <MTughan> Torrent hashes?
00:51 <MTughan> And download locations.
00:52 <PovAddict> yep
00:52 <PovAddict> load that into a download manager that supports it, and let it do its thing
00:52 <MTughan> Oh, nice...
00:52 <PovAddict> if one of those hundred mirrors is overloaded... would just pick another
00:52 <PovAddict> and no need for a separate file with the hashes and *manually* compare
00:53 <PovAddict> plus, having per-chunk hashes, you can know which parts of the file are bad, and only download that
00:53 <PovAddict> only re-download that, I mean
00:54 <MTughan> Well, seems neither of my BitTorrent clients support metalinks.
00:55 <PovAddict> I use aria2
00:55 <PovAddict> (commandline)
00:55 <Romulus> Title: wxDownload Fast (or just wxDFast) - A great multithreaded and multi-plataform Download Manager (at dfast.sourceforge.net)
00:55 <MTughan> AH! wxWidgets!
00:55 <PovAddict> make your own downloader? :P
00:56 <MTughan> Well, just not going to use that one...
00:56 <MTughan> Ubuntu downloaded.
00:59 <PovAddict> found an (apparently shareware) download manager for mac
00:59 <MTughan> Please, no shareware. That stuff is annoying.
00:59 <PovAddict> well I don't know if it's actually like "30-day with nagscreen" or just missing features
01:00 <PovAddict> I just see separate "download" and "purchase" buttons
01:00 <PovAddict> ohh
01:00 <PovAddict> a full download manager... in a Firefox extension...
01:00 <Romulus> Title: DownThemAll! (at www.downthemall.net)
01:02 <efc2> bought one of those a long time back
01:04 <MTughan> Oh gah... It's gotten warmer. At 1:00AM in the morning.
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01:13 <PovAddict> I think I'll head to bed
01:13 <Romulus> almost said,,had to back you up to the big probs i will watch though
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02:56 <E-30> hey
02:57 <efc2> moo
02:57 <E-30> how are you doing
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03:17 <E-30> hey desti
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05:37 <switchcat> okay it LOOKS like an uninstall and a reinstall finally solved my problems
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08:23 <xcamel> 'lo
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08:47 <xcamel> 'lo E
08:48 <E-30> hey
08:48 <E-30> how are you doing
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08:58 <E-30> hey yoyo
08:58 <Romulus> back on line 08:00 PDT on Saturday, and coming back on your net to basically zero each week, and I have used skype and we hates them
08:59 <yoyo[RKN]> moin
08:59 <E-30> how ar you doing today
09:00 <yoyo[RKN]> tired now
09:01 <yoyo[RKN]> my server runs smooth without need to be touched
09:01 <E-30> i can guess how you fill
09:01 <E-30> there
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09:18 <xcamel> 'lo yoyo
09:19 <xcamel> what project are you running?
09:28 <Romulus> Title: yoyo@home (at www.rechenkraft.net)
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09:31 <xcamel> ah.. cool
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09:39 <xcamel> &weather 12074
09:39 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 53.3°F / 11.8°C | Humidity: 95% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1018.8hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Patchy drizzle this morning. Much cooler with highs in the upper 60s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows around 50. East winds around 5 mph.; Columbus Day - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers and (1 more message)
09:39 <xcamel> &more
09:39 <Romulus> xcamel: thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 70s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.;
09:39 <xcamel> cooled off quite a bit over night
09:40 <Soul_keeper> amazing
09:41 <Soul_keeper> n. korea compared to s. korea
09:41 <Soul_keeper> zero lights at night in the north
09:41 <xcamel> n vs s
09:41 <xcamel> yup
09:41 <Romulus> wonder if people like to see that one.
09:41 <Soul_keeper> lol
09:42 <Soul_keeper> i wonder what china and russia look like now ...
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09:51 <squashball_> hola, why is boinc-client starting 8 seti clients? (I have 2 procs and 2 seti clients are working on 100% cpu, but ps shows mit 8 seti clients)
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10:17 <xcamel> round robin scheduler - not running, just left in memory...
10:19 <squashball_> is that new in version 5.8.17?
10:22 <squashball_> where can I find information (changelog or similar) about that?
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11:11 <MTughan> New for version 5.8.17? How old was his BOINC client?
11:16 <MTughan> Hmm... Maybe giving Ubuntu 1GB RAM wasn't the smartest idea for a 2GB system. It's squeezing out all my other applications.
11:18 <MTughan> Oh, VM BTW.
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11:20 <MTughan> Ouch... Am I that boring?
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11:22 <PovAddict> or nobody's here
11:22 <PovAddict> it's the weekend
11:23 <MTughan> I can try. And it's not just the weekend here. Thanksgiving weekend in Canada, means a long weekend.
11:26 <MTughan> Gah... VM's taking 1.07GB physical RAM and 1.45GB virtual RAM.
11:27 <MTughan> Oh, thank goodness. Shut it down, now I have 1.08GB free RAM.
11:30 <c0dewarrior> MTughan: Sounds like java... ignores all attempts to limit its memory usage
11:30 <MTughan> Something like that.
11:30 <c0dewarrior> and howdy
11:30 <MTughan> Which are you talking about? Ubuntu or the VM?
11:30 <MTughan> And hi to you too.
11:31 <c0dewarrior> oh nm, misread what you said
11:31 <MTughan> Yeah, an OS is a little more notorious there.
11:32 <c0dewarrior> on another note, is there any way to force boinc to run 2 projects at the same time per processor?
11:33 <MTughan> Two projects per processor? Yeah, if it's a dual-core.
11:33 <PovAddict> wellduh
11:33 <PovAddict> c0dewarrior: why would you want that?
11:33 <c0dewarrior> no, that would mean 4 processes on a dual core
11:33 <PovAddict> "increases latency without increasing throughput"
11:33 <MTughan> I don't think so.
11:33 <c0dewarrior> PovAddict: Because there's some nice clock cycles going unused, some nice amounts of cache going unused
11:34 <MTughan> You could try specifying CPU time as 200%.
11:34 <c0dewarrior> PovAddict: and if you run a GPU based project then another processor going unused
11:34 <c0dewarrior> PovAddict: not such a stupid question...
11:34 <PovAddict> there are GPU-based BOINC projects?
11:34 <c0dewarrior> PovAddict: the same logic applies to hyperthreading...
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11:35 <c0dewarrior> PovAddict: there's nvidia libraries yes, so in theory if folks got off their arses :-p
11:35 <PovAddict> c0dewarrior: if you have HT, BOINC will run two tasks, as HT claims to be dualcore
11:35 <c0dewarrior> MTughan: tried, the crap user interface conveniently sets it back to 100% without notification
11:35 <MTughan> From boinc_cmd then?
11:35 <c0dewarrior> MTughan: k, tries boinc_cmd
11:36 <MTughan> Gotta find it on my machine...
11:37 <MTughan> Hmm... Not in the .app on Mac.
11:38 * MTughan doing a system-wide search.
11:38 <PovAddict> try boinccmd
11:38 <PovAddict> if boinc_cmd fails
11:38 <MTughan> Or did I skip over it...
11:38 <MTughan> Still not found.
11:39 <MTughan> I think I found it.
11:41 <c0dewarrior> for the record
11:41 <c0dewarrior> <ncpus> does not work on boinc 5.8.17 on linux...
11:41 <c0dewarrior> Sun 07 Oct 2007 17:40:15 SAST||Unrecognized tag in cc_config.xml: <ncpus>
11:41 <MTughan> Damn... the BOINC CLI doesn't work under my account.
11:41 <c0dewarrior> ignore the above
11:41 <c0dewarrior> might be cause it's in the wrong section
11:41 <c0dewarrior> :-9
11:42 <MTughan> File ownership or permissions are set in a way that does not allow sandboxed execution of BOINC applications. To use BOINC anyway, use the -insecure command line option. To change ownership/permission, reinstall BOINC or run the shell script Mac_SA_Secure.sh. (Error code -1022)
11:43 <MTughan> -insecure does nothing.
11:43 <PovAddict> MTughan: what did you run?
11:43 <PovAddict> boinc or boinccmd?
11:43 <MTughan> It's named boinc. "./boinc"
11:43 <PovAddict> that's the core client
11:43 <PovAddict> which you probably have already running
11:44 <MTughan> Well, there's no boinccmd for Mac then.
11:44 <PovAddict> aw
11:45 <c0dewarrior> if I would change one thing with boinc... I'd fscking be more verbose on actions taken by default
11:45 <PovAddict> like?
11:45 <c0dewarrior> why the hell ncpu's is being ignored
11:45 <MTughan> Maybe it's new for 5.10.x.
11:45 <PovAddict> did you add it to <cc_config>/<options>?
11:45 <c0dewarrior> (and why libcurl failed in the case of ubuntu)
11:45 <c0dewarrior> ayup
11:46 <c0dewarrior> MTughan: It's not complaining about it being an invalid element...
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11:46 * c0dewarrior tries on 5.10 on winblows
11:46 <MTughan> It basically is. "Unrecognized tag"
11:47 <PovAddict> if it doesn't complain, but it doesn't do anything, have a look at your preferences for the "use at most X processors" setting :)
11:47 <MTughan> That's not going to help.
11:47 <c0dewarrior> PovAddict: already did
11:48 <PovAddict> ncpus just makes BOINC think your computer has that many CPUs
11:48 <MTughan> That's to limit the number of processors/cores used by the client. Not projects per processor/core.
11:48 <c0dewarrior> PovAddict: I've stopped caring to try things on the 5.8 unix client, it's about as good as a 1kw engine in a wooden toy car
11:48 <MTughan> Nice analogy...
11:48 <PovAddict> MTughan: ncpus makes it think you have more cores
11:49 <MTughan> Limiting still won't have any impact on that.
11:49 <Romulus> XmasPover just recovering from 2hr+ power outage in Bellevue/Seattle impacting Steam Server availability. Unfortunately ETA for simap units says 2 hours
11:49 <MTughan> That is one twisted bot...
11:49 <PovAddict> if you make it think you have 10 CPUs but limit it to 2, it won't work :)
11:49 <MTughan> The default is 16. >_>
11:49 <PovAddict> people tweak settings
11:49 <PovAddict> I think I have tweaked every single setting out of its default at least once
11:50 <PovAddict> &cyborg twisted
11:50 <Romulus> PovAddict: T.W.I.S.T.E.D.: Transforming Wireless Individual Skilled in Thorough Exploration and Destruction
11:50 <c0dewarrior> so cruel
11:51 <PovAddict> &cyborg codewarior
11:51 <Romulus> PovAddict: C.O.D.E.W.A.R.I.O.R.: Cybernetic Operational Device Engineered for Worldwide Assassination, Rational Infiltration and Online Repair
11:51 <PovAddict> (10-letter limit)
11:51 <c0dewarrior> heh
11:54 <MTughan> Hmm... Any way to use root on an Ubuntu system. Password wasn't asked.
11:54 <c0dewarrior> sudo -s
11:54 <c0dewarrior> you have no root in ubuntu
11:54 <c0dewarrior> doesn't work with 5.10 on winblows either
11:55 * c0dewarrior is starting to get annoyed with the poor boinc
11:55 <MTughan> Hmm... Nice. So what does su do then?
11:56 <c0dewarrior> fails ;-)
11:56 <MTughan> Thanks...
11:56 <PovAddict> su asks you for the root password and says it's wrong
11:57 <c0dewarrior> sudo and su are chameleons of the same color
11:57 <PovAddict> but both change? :P
11:58 <c0dewarrior> grin, something like that
12:00 <c0dewarrior> I give up, today I will go on protest by shutting down all my boincs :-p
12:00 <PovAddict> idle CPU
12:00 <PovAddict> OH NOES
12:01 <c0dewarrior> Instead I'll render snow white for little kids..
12:01 <MTughan> Damn... Ubuntu can't download any packages now.
12:11 <MTughan> There we go.
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12:14 <c0dewarrior> PovAddict: what you smoking?
12:14 <MTughan> And I thought you were sane...
12:14 <PovAddict> c0dewarrior: does the current BOINC let you do this automatically? "process only SIMAP workunits, don't get work from any other project, but when simap runs out of work, if there is 1 workunit left, crunch CPDN too, and if there's nothing left resume fetching work from other projects"
12:15 <Romulus> ^G Get Help ^O WriteOut ^R Read File ^Y Prev Pg ^K Cut Text ^C Cur Pos
12:15 <MTughan> nano!
12:15 <PovAddict> Romulus: ^Q
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12:15 <c0dewarrior> PovAddict: Dunno, does it? So far it doesn't make me coffee, so rather negative about it
12:16 <MTughan> Bah. You don't need coffee.
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12:16 <PovAddict> BOINC does what it wants and it's hard to control
12:17 <PovAddict> I was once suspending individual workunits trying to get a specific one to process
12:17 <PovAddict> it was like whac-a-mole
12:17 <c0dewarrior> PovAddict: agreed, proven that a long time ago.... and it's starting to frustrate
12:17 <c0dewarrior> PovAddict: agreed, ditto here
12:17 <PovAddict> suspend the one running, it stops, another random one starts
12:17 <PovAddict> suspend it too, another starts
12:17 <PovAddict> the one I wanted running didn't start until I had suspended ALL the others
12:17 <PovAddict> go murphy
12:18 <c0dewarrior> PovAddict: So it sounds like a community fork of boinc methinks
12:18 <c0dewarrior> *time for a ..
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12:18 <PovAddict> I'd rather write BOINC from scratch than have to deal with the existing code
12:19 <BadBarbarian> morning all
12:19 <PovAddict> morning
12:19 <c0dewarrior> PovAddict: *shudder*
12:19 <PovAddict> lolwut
12:19 <MTughan> lol. It's afternoon here. But morning to you.
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12:20 <PovAddict> c0dewarrior: but also, I'd rather go play bejeweled than rewrite BOINC, so brb
12:20 <c0dewarrior> PovAddict: agreed, there's the real reason for the frustration
12:24 <xcamel> re-back
12:24 <MTughan> re-'lo
12:24 <quail> morning all
12:24 <MTughan> And morning to you too.
12:24 * c0dewarrior throws a mutilated boinc client into the room as a welcome present to all
12:24 <quail> it very early morning here
12:25 <MTughan> lol 12:30PM here.
12:25 <MTughan> Oh, you're in Asia or Australia?
12:25 <xcamel> south africa
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12:25 <MTughan> Oh.
12:26 <MTughan> I guess Africa is a little more east than I thought...
12:26 <c0dewarrior> 0_o
12:26 <c0dewarrior> It'
12:26 * quail in aus
12:26 <c0dewarrior> It's 18h26 in SA..
12:26 <MTughan> Cool... You like Midnight Oil?
12:26 * MTughan is listening to Feeding Frenzy by Midnight Oil from Earth And Sun And Moon
12:26 <quail> it 2am here
12:27 <xcamel> quail never sleeps...
12:27 <c0dewarrior> &time
12:27 <Romulus> c0dewarrior: 12:27 PM, October 07, 2007
12:27 <MTughan> EDT.
12:28 <quail> xcamel: i slept all of sunday away
12:28 <xcamel> lol
12:28 <MTughan> lol, it's Eastern Daylight Time, but it's more west than east in the world.
12:28 * quail was really drunk from saturday night
12:28 <xcamel> ouchies..
12:28 <MTughan> :O
12:28 <xcamel> that's bad for you...
12:29 <xcamel> kills too many cosing cells....
12:29 <MTughan> What cells?
12:29 <xcamel> er coding cells even....
12:29 <quail> yeah, but i only do it once in a while now
12:29 <MTughan> Hey, maybe you'll prove the Ballmer peak...
12:30 <c0dewarrior> Steve Balmer knows how to peak?
12:30 <xcamel> my "Ballmer peak" was a small bump back in 1992
12:30 <Romulus> Title: xkcd - A webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language - By Randall Munroe (at www.xkcd.com)
12:35 <MTughan> bbiab. Can't miss out on shrimp.
12:39 <xcamel> back to cores for me too
12:40 <xcamel> dammnit...
12:40 <xcamel> back to chores for me too
12:40 <xcamel> there...
12:40 <xcamel> bbl..
12:46 <MTughan> c0dewarrior: You saw the comic?
12:47 * c0dewarrior looks
12:48 <c0dewarrior> ah, yes
12:48 <c0dewarrior> grin
12:48 <MTughan> So quail: did you hit the Ballmer peak?
12:54 <MTughan> :D 525KB/s download for Ubuntu packages. :D
13:04 <MTughan> WTF? My web browser seems to be running as root...
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13:17 <MTughan> Hey, desti.
13:18 <desti> hi
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13:27 <MTughan> 'lo Zygentoma
13:27 <Romulus> ah you sure it's all xml files in a state in Saratoga county...
13:27 <MTughan> shush bot
13:28 <Zygentoma> hi
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13:36 <E-30> hey
13:36 <MTughan> hi
13:36 <E-30> how are you doing now
13:36 <MTughan> For what?
13:37 <E-30> oh welll
13:37 <E-30> army talk again
13:37 <E-30> how are you soing
13:37 <E-30> doing
13:37 <MTughan> Pretty good. Just finishing up the setup of Ubuntu on the VM.
13:38 <E-30> cool
13:39 <MTughan> Do you know if Ubuntu comes with Samba by default?
13:39 <E-30> i dont know
13:40 <Romulus> built my first was closer - may have picked up some memory it should
13:42 <MTughan> bbiab
13:43 <E-30> ok
13:56 <quail> MTughan: what version of ubuntu are you running?
14:07 <E-30> hey
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14:57 <MTughan> b
14:57 <MTughan> I'm running 7.04 Desktop.
14:58 <MTughan> Agh! You ever had it where water has soaked into your hands, and they itch like crazy, but you can't itch it or it'll get worse?
14:59 <c0dewarrior> MTughan: you bathing in acid?
14:59 <MTughan> No, just washed up some dishes.
14:59 <Romulus> and you do a wireless node on >>> http://southernvaleslug.org/modules/xoopsgallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album04&page=1
15:00 <efc> moo
15:00 <efc> never had water to that..
15:00 <MTughan> Hehe... He doesn't do title lists for links he posts in markovs.
15:00 <PovAddict> it doesn't do titles for any link it posts itself
15:01 <MTughan> No, you have to have water soak in for about 20+ minutes. For me anyway.
15:01 <PovAddict> (calling it "he" is insulting for lifeforms :P)
15:02 <MTughan> Cool... Ubuntu comes with Wine.
15:02 <PovAddict> have fun getting drunk
15:02 <MTughan> lol
15:02 <PovAddict> well I think you need quite a bit of wine for that
15:02 <MTughan> Just drink lots of water. :P
15:02 <PovAddict> oh yea
15:02 * PovAddict goes get water
15:03 <MTughan> rofl
15:03 <quail> MTughan: i am running 7.10 beta
15:03 <MTughan> I decided to wait on 7.10 because it's coming out in 10 days.
15:04 <quail> MTughan: it is stable as atm
15:04 <MTughan> I'm still gonna wait.
15:04 <quail> kewl
15:04 <PovAddict> we have 10 days to convince and help ubuntu use metalinks to avoid this release being as bad as previous one
15:06 <quail> :-)
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15:06 <E-30> ok i am back now
15:06 <MTughan_> This is Ubuntu.
15:07 <E-30> lol
15:07 <E-30> well i am having fune now with my computer again
15:08 <E-30> and working on my 12 computer sence i been back on thrusday night
15:08 <MTughan> Okay, now gonna really slow down my computer. Starting Fedora...
15:08 <E-30> there it is
15:08 <quail> eep fedora
15:08 <E-30> boom
15:08 * quail shudders
15:09 <MTughan> What's wrong with Fedora?
15:09 * E-30 ducks and take cover
15:09 <quail> MTughan: your a red hat pawn for there devopment
15:09 <MTughan> I still like Fedora over Ubuntu.
15:10 <quail> fedora is the development version for the commercial enterprise stuff
15:10 <quail> s/the there
15:10 <E-30> lol
15:10 <MTughan> s/there/their/
15:11 * quail just a debian freak
15:11 <E-30> lol
15:11 <E-30> cool
15:11 <quail> or if you want to get back to bare bones try slackware
15:11 <PovAddict> ask xcamel
15:11 <E-30> i still have fun with windows now becuse of gamming
15:11 <E-30> ghes good at that stuff
15:11 <PovAddict> game devs' fault
15:12 <E-30> yep
15:12 <E-30> waa
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15:12 <quail> E-30: becareful of the broken glass
15:12 *** mtughan__ has quit IRC
15:12 <E-30> why
15:12 <PovAddict> what broken glass? v*sta?
15:12 <E-30> i am still useing xp pro
15:13 <E-30> vista is out of my mind
15:13 <quail> 04:41:45 < E-30> i still have fun with windows now becuse of gamming
15:13 <E-30> i will not work on it eather
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15:13 <mtughan__> Damn you, Konversation.
15:13 *** mtughan__ is now known as MTughan__
15:13 <E-30> lol
15:13 <quail> 04:41:45 < E-30> i still have fun with windows now becuse of gamming <<< 04:42:28 < quail> E-30: becareful of the broken glass
15:14 <MTughan__> Oh, you have fun gaming with Windows.
15:14 <PovAddict> but breaking windows is so easy
15:14 <MTughan__> brb
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15:14 <E-30> true and oc is not good there eather
15:14 <quail> format c: -s
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15:15 <E-30> wow
15:15 <MTughan__> lol
15:15 <MTughan__> lol
15:15 <MTughan__> Damn you again...
15:15 <E-30> he is bounceing like a ball now
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15:17 <E-30> ozzy is the shit
15:18 <MTughan__> Bye from Fedora.
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15:18 <E-30> well all i can say is battlefeld 2142 did not like me to day i was the death god for a day
15:18 <E-30> 400 kills in 2 hrs
15:18 <PovAddict> o.o
15:18 <PovAddict> crazy
15:18 <MTughan_> And bye from Ubuntu.
15:18 <quail> you killer you
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15:18 <E-30> i had to make up for a mouth with mnot playing
15:19 <c0dewarrior> E-30: nuclear proliferation still allowed in games I guess..
15:19 <MTughan> Hey, Kubuntu's shutdown screen is nice... I like the blues more than the oranges.
15:20 <MTughan> And now left with 1.12GB free RAM. :D
15:20 <PovAddict> "free RAM is wasted RAM"
15:20 <E-30> lol
15:20 <MTughan> Not always.
15:21 <PovAddict> it's always better if it's filled with some of the disk contents
15:21 <E-30> well i have 2 gigs of it and i have 70% free right now
15:21 <PovAddict> =cache
15:21 <E-30> true
15:21 <MTughan> You want lots of free RAM when you're going to power up two VMs at once.
15:21 <E-30> in case i am mox
15:21 <E-30> max
15:21 <MTughan> Hmm... Wonder how my system would respond with all three of my VMs powered up at once...
15:21 <PovAddict> if it's all programmed right, disk cache could be taken as free
15:21 <MTughan> >:)
15:21 <PovAddict> that is, whenever an app needs it, use it
15:22 <E-30> boinc is useing like 300 mb of ram now
15:22 <PovAddict> boinc?
15:22 <PovAddict> or what app?
15:22 <PovAddict> &math convert 256 MiB to bytes
15:22 <Romulus> PovAddict: 268435456
15:22 <E-30> its down to 200 mb now
15:23 <E-30> qmc
15:23 <PovAddict> ah
15:23 <PovAddict> qmc is a bit of a memory hog yeah
15:23 <E-30> 100 mb pur unit and i have 2 cors here
15:23 <PovAddict> latest Lattice app was worse I think
15:23 <MTughan> There. 1.15GB free now.
15:23 <E-30> cool
15:24 <MTughan> 1.22GB by shutting down Y!WE.
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15:26 <MTughan> Okay, all three booting.
15:26 <MTughan> 'lo yoyo.
15:32 <MTughan> Okay, not bad actually.
15:33 <MTughan> I have two running KDE, and Mandriva is running it's own thing, I think.
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15:38 <E-30> lol
15:38 <MTughan> But they're all running.
15:39 <PovAddict> ...slowly...
15:39 <PovAddict> :P
15:39 <MTughan> Actually, OS X is really the only slow one.
15:39 <E-30> well time for a restart
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15:45 <MTughan> quail: You have Ubuntu right? "apt-get moo" :D
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15:46 <E-30> ok i am back
15:46 <E-30> with a 600 mhz oc gworking now
15:47 <E-30> working
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16:04 <MTughan> And all shut down.
16:04 <MTughan> Hehe... I should boot Blender now...
16:06 <MTughan> 1.26GB free RAM!
16:07 <PovAddict> I have a whole CD .iso loaded in RAM
16:07 <PovAddict> and then some
16:07 <MTughan> Well, that's only 700MB.
16:07 <PovAddict> xdelta30q.exe: 1.78GB usage
16:07 <MTughan> Not very efficient with its memory, is it?
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16:08 <PovAddict> not at the insane settings I'm using
16:08 <PovAddict> it's actually using less memory than I told it to
16:08 <PovAddict> since the whole source file is smaller than the source window size I set
16:10 <MTughan> Shutting down Dashboard, 1.29GB free RAM... This is becoming like a challenge.
16:10 <PovAddict> now do you think I could use Eclipse while this thing runs?
16:10 <MTughan> ...
16:10 <PovAddict> can you lend me some RAM? lol
16:10 <MTughan> Would suicide be the right word?
16:10 <PovAddict> 1.7GB in use by xdelta
16:10 <PovAddict> 2GB total physical
16:10 <MTughan> 300MB left for everything, including Windoze...
16:11 <PovAddict> well, it says 2.05GB of total virtual memory in use
16:11 <MTughan> Yeah, we'll say Eclipse isn't the smartest idea right now.
16:11 <PovAddict> of course, I closed Skype and YWE
16:11 <MTughan> Yeah.
16:11 <PovAddict> well anyway
16:11 <PovAddict> 2.05GB of virtual memory in use
16:11 <PovAddict> way better than what I was used to on the other computer
16:12 <PovAddict> *average* was 700MB vm in use, while having 512MB physical
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16:12 <MTughan> Hehe... 14.64GB VRAM here.
16:12 <PovAddict> IN USE?
16:12 <MTughan> I think so.
16:12 <PovAddict> !
16:12 * efc sometimes wonders where all the stinkin ram is going
16:13 <PovAddict> bloatware
16:13 <PovAddict> progress: 120MB / 694MB
16:13 <MTughan> &math calc 12-/694
16:13 <Romulus> MTughan: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
16:13 <MTughan> &math calc 120/694
16:13 <Romulus> MTughan: 0.172910662824
16:13 <MTughan> 17% done.
16:14 <PovAddict> no... wait
16:14 <PovAddict> one file on the diff is 694MB
16:14 <PovAddict> that one is totally loaded in RAM
16:14 <PovAddict> the other is a DVD
16:14 <PovAddict> which is read sequentially
16:14 <PovAddict> ...
16:14 <PovAddict> so actually it's 152MB / 4.4GB
16:15 <PovAddict> gonna take a while eh?
16:15 <MTughan> Hehe... kernel's taking 1.38GB VM.
16:15 <MTughan> Oh yeah.
16:15 <MTughan> My IRC client is next at 534MB.
16:16 <PovAddict> I won't survive that much time with an app eating 85% of my physical RAM
16:17 <PovAddict> killed, 348MB virtual memory in use
16:18 <MTughan> I don't know, maybe Macs just take a huge amount of RAM to run.
16:19 <MTughan> I'd be killing myself if I had left this with the default 512MB RAM.
16:19 <efc> They've historically taken a lot compared to the same-era dos/windows machine. You could see why during DOS but..
16:19 <MTughan> But 15+GB virtual RAM for normal use?
16:20 <PovAddict> what is Microsoft AU Dae?
16:20 <MTughan> Daemon*
16:20 <MTughan> Not sure exactly what it does.
16:20 <MTughan> Came with Ofice.
16:20 <MTughan> Office*
16:22 <MTughan> Oh... From a Mac forum: "the office one is related to entourage ... i believe it is what reminds you of upcoming events.. etc.. you're probably safe ditching it"
16:22 <MTughan> I don't use Entourage, so I can probably remove it from startup.
16:23 <MTughan> BTW, Entourage is equivalent to Outlook.
16:23 <MTughan> Oh, but another site says auto-update...
16:24 <PovAddict> "A buffer overflow vulnerability and several memory corruptions have been discovered in libvorbis."
16:25 <MTughan> Nice...
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16:27 <MTughan> Oh well. I'll leave it for now. Not sure if I am going to keep Office on here, because the graphics suck with my modifications, and OpenOffice does just about as well.
16:29 <PovAddict> ok, I killed it and started it again with different input files and slightly lower memory usage
16:29 <PovAddict> 1.5 gig
16:29 <PovAddict> I guess it's *still* a bad idea to use eclipse
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16:30 <PovAddict> :o it's seth /o\
16:30 <sethy> :o
16:30 <MTughan> ...
16:30 <sethy> :(
16:30 <MTughan> lol
16:30 * sethy sits in the dark corner
16:30 <MTughan> You're always welcome.
16:30 <PovAddict> &8b is sethy welcome?
16:30 <Romulus> PovAddict: _I_ don't know.
16:31 <MTughan> &cyborg sethy
16:31 <Romulus> MTughan: S.E.T.H.Y.: Synthetic Electronic Technician Hardwired for Yelling
16:31 <Romulus> Jan was in this case to combine PDF files
16:31 <MTughan> lol
16:32 <PovAddict> MTughan: got some free CPU time on your brain?
16:32 <MTughan> Wha?
16:32 <Romulus> Title: Stardust@Home (at stardustathome.berkeley.edu)
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16:36 * sethy eats his noodles
16:36 <sethy> so what happened to CFL?
16:36 <sethy> &seen Spit_theDog
16:36 <Romulus> sethy: Spit_theDog was last seen in #boinc 20 weeks, 4 days, 10 hours, 7 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <Spit_theDog> Bye for now all :)
16:36 <sethy> :(
16:36 <PovAddict> I think he went to Miami for w$%&
16:36 <sethy> :o
16:36 <sethy> :(
16:37 <PovAddict> (19:54:03) CoderOnTheRoad: had Mickey Mouse cook me a strip steak
16:37 <sethy> OHSHIT
16:37 <PovAddict> oh, Orlando
16:37 <sethy> OH?
16:38 <sethy> PovAddict, tell my why my noodles look like zombie brains
16:39 <MTughan> O_O
16:39 <PovAddict> ...
16:39 <PovAddict> thanks for the mental images
16:39 <sethy> :D
16:39 * sethy offers noodles
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16:40 <MTughan> Perfect timing...
16:40 <sethy> ish
16:40 * sethy offers CoderForLife noodles
16:40 <MTughan> Apparently, they look like zombie brains.
16:42 <c0dewarrior> only if you've left them in the pot for a week after cooking....
16:54 <xcamel> back again
16:56 <MTughan> Ah, there we go. Third time's the charm.
16:58 <xcamel> 200' drain line in and working....
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17:00 <CoderOnTheRoad> hello
17:04 <CoderOnTheRoad> hey sethy
17:04 <efc> moo
17:05 <xcamel> soo.. wazzup?
17:05 <CoderOnTheRoad> hey efc
17:05 <CoderOnTheRoad> they have rain in Florida
17:06 <efc> water for the elderly
17:06 <xcamel> 6" drainguard pipe trenched in - spring water starting to run
17:06 <efc> You have a spring?
17:06 <xcamel> underground in the sand
17:06 <CoderOnTheRoad> how was the trenching - hard baked?
17:07 <xcamel> not too bad
17:07 <CoderOnTheRoad> good work
17:07 <xcamel> now just depending on hydraulic pressure to push the water out
17:08 <xcamel> really fine glacial sands
17:08 <efc> several people around here have dug up springs to make lakes, nice, but it doesn't do the water table much good
17:08 <efc> they are below us in elevation
17:08 <xcamel> this water is trapped by a rock formation
17:09 * efc simply wants a few hundred GPM and a 100' elevation change.. is it too much to ask, really?
17:09 <xcamel> apparently, yes.
17:10 <xcamel> this is measured in gallons per day at the moment
17:11 <xcamel> but after the first hard frost it'll pick up quite a bit - trees still taking up water etc.
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17:17 <MTughan> As long as it doesn't freeze.
17:17 *** BadBarbarian has joined #boinc
17:17 <MTughan> Having connection issues?
17:18 <BadBarbarian> lol no getting the password right
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17:18 <BadBarbarian> lol
17:18 <xcamel> 'lo Bad B
17:18 <BadBarbarian> howdy X
17:18 <MTughan> Any relation to Big X?
17:18 <xcamel> how goes it?
17:19 <MTughan> (The Great Escape)
17:19 <BadBarbarian> woke up to 15 Degrees this morning
17:19 <xcamel> C or F ??
17:19 <BadBarbarian> f
17:19 <MTughan> !
17:19 <MTughan> &math convert 15 F to C
17:19 <Romulus> MTughan: -9.44444444444
17:19 <MTughan> That's cold...
17:20 <BadBarbarian> yes it is
17:20 <xcamel> wow - rocky mountain snow job?
17:20 <MTughan> 17C here.
17:20 <BadBarbarian> i live at 2500 meters
17:20 <MTughan> That could do it...
17:20 <xcamel> friggin burrrrrrrrrrr........
17:20 <BadBarbarian> feels like it but clear skys
17:20 <CoderOnTheRoad> hey BB
17:20 <xcamel> the high frosty desert of AZ
17:21 <MTughan> I'm envious of you. We've had 28C weather just a week ago.
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17:21 <xcamel> we had it yesterday... got to 85F
17:21 <MTughan> Now that's a new one...
17:21 <BadBarbarian> hey coder whats up
17:21 <CoderOnTheRoad> good to see you back here BadBarbarian
17:21 <MTughan> *Zygentoma left the chat room. (No route to host)
17:22 <MTughan> What does no route to host mean different to connection timed out?
17:23 <xcamel> yummy... dinner on the desk...
17:24 <xcamel> one of the links between routers dropped out...
17:26 <BadBarbarian> had some helth issues to resolve
17:26 <xcamel> feeling better now?
17:26 <BadBarbarian> much
17:27 <xcamel> good... getting out for walks yet?
17:27 <BadBarbarian> spent a month in va hospital with an bad bad infection
17:28 <BadBarbarian> all most killed me lol
17:28 *** c0dewarrior_ is now known as c0de
17:28 <BadBarbarian> antibiotics didnt work
17:28 <xcamel> superbug?
17:28 <CoderOnTheRoad> you've been through a lot Bad Barbarian
17:29 <c0de> CoderOnTheRoad: to where?
17:29 <CoderOnTheRoad> I'm in Orlando Florida c0de
17:29 <CoderOnTheRoad> Mickey Mouse says to say Hi
17:30 <xcamel> McMouseVille...
17:30 <c0de> kill him for me, he always irritated me..
17:30 <c0de> ;-)
17:31 <xcamel> to a 6 year old, M. Mouse is just a 6' f'n RAT!
17:31 <c0de> lol
17:31 <BadBarbarian> why did mickey get a divorce
17:31 <MTughan> Hehe...
17:31 <xcamel> (part of a Robin Williams comedy routine)
17:31 <CoderOnTheRoad> Last I saw Mickey, he was a homicide bomber on Islam TV
17:31 <MTughan> o_O
17:32 <xcamel> not because minnie was crazy....
17:32 <BadBarbarian> he he something about goofy
17:32 * c0de breaks out laughing
17:32 <xcamel> she was F*'s Goofy!
17:32 <BadBarbarian> lol
17:32 <CoderOnTheRoad> I saw Goofy here - he was dressed as a vampire
17:33 <BadBarbarian> thats scary
17:33 <CoderOnTheRoad> very buck teeth fangs
17:33 <c0de> a goofy vampire.. now that's a bloody laugh
17:33 <xcamel> rather have Buffy the vampire.....
17:34 <xcamel> um...slayer....
17:34 * BadBarbarian slaps xcamel with a 40lb Unix Manual
17:34 <BadBarbarian> lol
17:34 <MTughan> Hmm... How should I describe this conversation? I think morbid isn't strong enough...
17:34 <c0de> hehehehe
17:34 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86046
17:34 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 60.6°F / 15.9°C | Humidity: 24% | Pressure: 23.74in / 803.8hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny. Highs 55 to 61. Light winds.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 24 to 32. Light winds.; Columbus Day - Warmer...sunny. Highs 64 to 70. Light winds.;
17:35 <xcamel> &zipinfo 86046
17:35 <Romulus> xcamel: City: Williams; State: AZ; County: Coconino; Area Code: 928; Time Zone: MST; Daylight Savings: N; Latitude: 35.6062 (North); Longitude: 112.4411 (West)
17:35 <MTughan> Well, that corresponds with the IP address.
17:35 <c0de> MTughan: One of the most interesting conversations yet :-p
17:35 <BadBarbarian> lol
17:35 * c0de points at the BadBarbarian. He started it!
17:36 <xcamel> well... out for a walk with the wifey... back in a bit....
17:36 <MTughan> ;p;
17:36 <MTughan> lol*
17:36 * BadBarbarian slaps c0de with a rainbow trout
17:36 <MTughan> Colourful...
17:37 * c0de hides in the rainbow nation
17:37 <c0de> MTughan: Offset by one column on the keyboard there bud..
17:37 <MTughan> No, in the rainbow notion.
17:37 <MTughan> I know.
17:37 * c0de hans MTughan a spanner to tune his keyboard
17:37 <MTughan> On a laptop?
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17:38 <BadBarbarian> yes
17:38 <c0de> good point
17:38 <MTughan> Wait, off by one column on which message?
17:38 * c0de hands MTughan a hammer
17:38 <MTughan> lol
17:38 <MTughan> The ;p;?
17:38 <c0de> aye
17:38 <MTughan> I know. That's what happens when you use one hand, and don't check where it is.
17:38 <c0de> 0_0
17:39 * c0de wonders where the other hand is
17:39 <MTughan> Hanging down.
17:39 <c0de> grin, k enough fun for one day... (settles back into the background)
17:39 <MTughan> Not doing anything sick...
17:40 <BadBarbarian> so hows the weather in LA. MTughan
17:40 * CoderOnTheRoad thinks about getting some dinner someplace
17:40 <MTughan> LA?
17:40 <MTughan> I'm not in California...
17:41 <BadBarbarian> lol neotrace sucks lol
17:41 <MTughan> &weather Toronto
17:41 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 61Â°F / 16Â°C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 30.08in / 1018hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 5:13 PM EDT; Tonight - Cloudy. 40 percent chance of drizzle early this evening and of showers late this evening and overnight. Clearing. Risk of a thunderstorm late this evening and overnight. Temperature steady near 17C(63F).; Monday - A mix of (2 more messages)
17:41 <MTughan> Yeah, if you trace my IP, I find it always points to a spot in Georgia.
17:41 <CoderOnTheRoad> &weather Lake Buena Vista, FL
17:41 <MTughan> &more
17:41 <Romulus> MTughan: sun and cloud. 40 percent chance of showers in the afternoon with the risk of a thunderstorm. High 30C(86F). UV index 4 or moderate. Monday night cloudy periods with 60 percent chance of showers. Risk of a thunderstorm. Wind west 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light in the evening. Wind becoming east 30 km/h (19 mph) overnight. Low 16C(61F).; Tuesday - A mix of sun and cloud with 40 percent chance of (1 more message)
17:41 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: Temperature: 81.3°F / 27.4°C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 29.94in / 1013.8hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 4.0mph / 6.4km/h ; Tonight - Considerable cloudiness before sunset then becoming partly cloudy. Scattered showers and isolated thunderstorms before sunset. Lows in the lower 70s. East winds 10 to 15 mph becoming northeast 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 (1 more message)
17:41 <BadBarbarian> lol
17:41 <CoderOnTheRoad> &more
17:41 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: percent.; Columbus Day - Partly sunny with a slight chance of showers. Highs in the upper 80s. East winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Monday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows in the lower 70s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.;
17:42 <c0de> had some nasty lightning storms here the past few days
17:42 <MTughan> &more
17:42 <Romulus> MTughan: showers. High 21C(70F).;
17:42 <c0de> fried one earth leakage :-/
17:42 <CoderOnTheRoad> I think FL is the lightning capital of the world
17:43 <MTughan> brb, have to feed the cat.
17:43 <c0de> I beg to differ
17:43 <BadBarbarian> you will be seeing this cold frount in a day or 2
17:44 <c0de> CoderOnTheRoad: Think we have one of the areas with the most lightning strikes per square kilometer in the world...
17:45 <c0de> CoderOnTheRoad: ok, second to florida :-p
17:45 <CoderOnTheRoad> http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast05dec_1.htm
17:48 <MTughan> I've always wondered how they get lightning bolts on camera... Do they shoot video and grab a frame?
17:48 <BadBarbarian> yep
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17:51 <c0de> BadBarbarian: interesting, as I've done shots with a digital SLR with multishot of lightning
17:51 <c0de> BadBarbarian: Not to mention a mate who's rigged a high luminance digital trigger for a DSLR
17:51 <MTughan> "a mate"? Australian?
17:52 <c0de> what do you prefer?
17:52 <MTughan> "Not to mention someone who's..." would probably be the North American way.
17:53 <c0de> you loving me time?
17:53 <c0de> :-p
17:53 <MTughan> ?
17:53 <BadBarbarian> ;-)
17:53 <BadBarbarian> lol
17:54 * CoderOnTheRoad out to dinner
17:54 <CoderOnTheRoad> bbl
17:55 <c0de> MTughan: Here we tend to mix all flavours of english ;-)
17:55 <MTughan> Bye.
17:55 <c0de> adieu
17:57 <c0de> MTughan: Did you ever have luck with wxw? Have had some distractions so haven't had a chance to look
17:57 <MTughan> Never tried to use it.
17:57 <MTughan> And I don't like it. Doesn't go along with ShapeShifter mods.
17:58 <c0de> my bad, was meant for xcamel
17:59 <c0de> and forgot he's out
17:59 <MTughan> He's not marked as away.
17:59 <MTughan> Oh, right...
17:59 <c0de> he said he's taking a walkie
17:59 <MTughan> With wifey.
18:00 <c0de> yup
18:00 <c0de> k, have to go.. bbl
18:01 <PovAddict> MTughan: did you have a look at stardust@home?
18:02 <MTughan> Yeah.
18:02 <PovAddict> I just failed the test :( they made it really more tricky on the new phase
18:02 <MTughan> I passed on the third try.
18:03 <PovAddict> well, first time I did it (many months ago, when they had just started), I think I passed on first try (even though it wasn't 10/10)
18:03 <c0de> MTughan: feeling violated with all the probing! :-p
18:03 <MTughan> Oh, it's asking for confirmation?
18:03 <PovAddict> MTughan: they're on Phase 2, using higher-resolution images of some specific parts
18:03 <MTughan> I know they're on phase 2.
18:05 <MTughan> Hehe...
18:05 <MTughan> BOINC's on 75% CPU time.
18:07 <MTughan> bbiab. IRC shouldn't quit, but it might.
18:17 <MTughan> Okay, what I was trying to do didn't quite go as expected, but I can still work with it. Off to dinner.
18:24 * efc considers taking up writing sci fi novels even though he never reads them
18:24 <xcamel> back from walkies...
18:25 <xcamel> boinc can run at 100% with no problem
18:25 <PovAddict> xcamel: MTughan has heat problems
18:25 <PovAddict> laptop
18:25 <Romulus> I'd like to be here.... will be when I show you
18:26 <efc> I gave up running it on laptops
18:26 <efc> it was burning my dad's legs off
18:29 <MTughan> Well, I usually run it on a desk. It's running at 72C now.
18:29 <MTughan> &convert 72 C to F
18:29 <Romulus> MTughan: Error: The command "convert" is available in the Currency and Math plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "convert".
18:29 <MTughan> &math convert 72 C to F
18:29 <Romulus> MTughan: 161.6
18:29 <MTughan> I have had it up to 88C before though.
18:29 <efc> They don't seem to really be designed for full CPU all the time
18:29 <MTughan> Not with the crappy fans put in there.
18:29 <efc> on his last one some RAM went out, I'm thinking due to heat
18:30 <MTughan> I've had part of a port melt.
18:30 <MTughan> It still works.
18:39 * CoderOnTheRoad had part of his brain melt - the jury is out as to the results
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19:02 <xcamel> yup - heat can be a problem...
19:08 <CoderOnTheRoad> logging off 4 2 nite
19:08 <CoderOnTheRoad> cya folks
19:09 <xcamel> laterz...
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20:05 <efc> ran my mile, felt more-or-less good
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20:32 * xcamel yawns
20:32 <MTughan> 'lo
20:33 <MTughan> Or are you tired then?
20:39 * quail up to season 2 in the X-Files
20:42 <xcamel> the old ones were great..
20:45 <quail> yeah :-)
20:45 <quail> brb got to goto the shops
20:47 <xcamel> and get coffee....
20:48 <MTughan> Bah. You don't need coffee.
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20:53 <efc> driving home, later
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21:04 <xcamel> dragging off to the showers...
21:04 <BadBarbarian> see ya
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21:37 <quail> b
21:37 <MTughan> Well, ##java is a lot busier than this.
21:38 <BadBarbarian> hi quail hows lafe downunder
21:38 <MTughan> Wow... brb there meant 52 minutes...
21:39 <quail> BadBarbarian: hiya, longtime no see. not to bad thx, bit tired atm tho. how are things wwith you?
21:40 <BadBarbarian> lol wokeup to -9c this morning
21:41 <BadBarbarian> liveing at 2500 meters can be interesing
21:43 <quail> what need to supply your own oxygen?
21:44 <BadBarbarian> lol
21:44 <BadBarbarian> its not that high
21:45 <BadBarbarian> northern arizona is all up there the south rim of the grand canyon is 6000 feet
21:59 <quail> yep
21:59 <quail> i was only joking about the oxygen ;-)
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23:05 <BadBarbarian> hi bak
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