IRC logs of #boinc for Sunday, 2007-10-07

00:00 <switchcat> I think I'm going to try to uninstall boinc and start over again

00:01 <switchcat> it seems like i'm not producing results, or if I am, who knows.

00:01 <PovAddict> first remove the package

00:01 <PovAddict> then I'll help you cleanup that mess, only after that reinstall

00:01 <PovAddict> wonder how the hell your computer got full of those .cfg's

00:06 <PovAddict> http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=163898995

00:06 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/114v> (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)

00:07 <MTughan> O_O

00:08 <MTughan> Actually we can

00:09 <MTughan> ... find out which BOINC is right.

00:09 <MTughan> which boinc_cmd

00:11 <switchcat> whats the most uptodate version? boinc.berkeley.edu is saying download 5.8.16, ubuntu package manager is saying 5.8.17 and the channel topic seems to give me the impression 5.10.21

00:12 <MTughan> For Linux? I though 5.10.8...

00:12 <MTughan> Now that's source. Don't know what Ubuntu binaries are like.

00:12 <PovAddict> 5.10.21 was released recently for all three platforms

00:13 <switchcat> anybody know of a 'repository' for boinc?

00:13 <Soul_keeper> and it runs great :)

00:13 <PovAddict> but is still marked as 'alpha'

00:13 <PovAddict> ...even though it runs great

00:13 <MTughan> Okay, so 5.10.8 for "stable".

00:13 <PovAddict> switchcat: what are you looking for exactly?

00:14 <switchcat> povaddict - are you familiar with the ubuntu packaging system?

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00:14 <PovAddict> switchcat: ah right

00:15 <PovAddict> well, what you see on the official ubuntu is the most up-to-date .deb's for BOINC that exist

00:15 <PovAddict> actually, the one on Gutsy is the most up-to-date one

00:16 <switchcat> 5.8.17 is what I already had installed, I wanted to try to install something more up-to-date.

00:16 <PovAddict> just any 5.10

00:16 <PovAddict> compile from source for extra fun

00:17 <MTughan> Extra "fun"?

00:17 <PovAddict> (WARNING: sarcasm)

00:17 <switchcat> eh, the reason I went with ubuntu is laziness.

00:17 <PovAddict> lol

00:17 <switchcat> otherwise I would have installed slackware.

00:17 <MTughan> So don't do source.

00:18 <MTughan> Hmm... I should have an Ubuntu install DVD somewhere...

00:19 <MTughan> Hmm... Mandriva, Knoppix, Xandros, and SUSE... But no Ubuntu it seems.

00:20 <MTughan> Well, this is where 500KB/s download speeds come in handy.

00:20 <PovAddict> h8

00:20 <MTughan> >:)

00:21 <MTughan> Hmm... Ubuntu or Kubuntu?

00:21 <PovAddict> Ubuntu has GNOME, Kubuntu has KDE

00:21 <MTughan> Ah, I'll last with GNOME.

00:21 <PovAddict> on both you can change it

00:21 <MTughan> I know the difference.

00:21 <PovAddict> but means more downloading

00:22 <MTughan> Not like I'm short on bandwidth.

00:22 <PovAddict> H8

00:22 <MTughan> Like I said before, >:)

00:23 <MTughan> Which would be better to get? 7.04 or 6.06LTS?

00:23 <switchcat> ah well I think I'm gonna go watch the episode of Las Vegas that I missed

00:23 <switchcat> well, as was stated there's a new version (7.10) coming out real-soon-now)

00:23 <PovAddict> get 7.04 better

00:23 <switchcat> 7.04 is good

00:23 <MTughan> 7.10 is in beta.

00:23 <PovAddict> oh I didn't know 7.10 was so close to release

00:23 <MTughan> Okay, 7.04 it is.

00:23 <MTughan> Or 7.10?

00:24 <PovAddict> get .04

00:24 <MTughan> Okay. http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/gutsybeta

00:24 <Romulus> Title: Ubuntu 7.10 Beta Release | Ubuntu (at www.ubuntu.com)

00:25 <MTughan> Hmm... What's the difference between the desktop and server editions?

00:25 <PovAddict> basically, desktop one is a livecd that can be installed with a graphical installer

00:26 <PovAddict> server one can't be run live, I'm not sure if it has graphical installer or ncurses-based; also maybe some packages are different

00:26 <PovAddict> well, seems this java applet didn't like 2000x1000 images

00:26 <MTughan> Duh...

00:27 <PovAddict> ok, actually was 4000x2000

00:27 <MTughan> Double-duh? No, quadruple-duh...

00:27 <PovAddict> scaled to half in gimp, loaded

00:27 <MTughan> Okay, so just "Duh" then.

00:28 <MTughan> 22 minutes to download, 520.4KB/s. >:)

00:28 <PovAddict> !

00:29 <MTughan> Oh, on the Ubuntu homepage. Missed this before. Countdown to Gutsy. 11 days.

00:29 <MTughan> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/countdown

00:29 <Romulus> Title: Ubuntu Countdown | Ubuntu (at www.ubuntu.com)

00:30 <PovAddict> as usual, I'll provide 12KB/s extra to the torrents :P

00:30 <MTughan> lol

00:30 <MTughan> Wait, are there torrents for Ubuntu?

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00:30 <PovAddict> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors bottom of page

00:30 <MTughan> Ah, there they are.

00:30 <Romulus> Title: Complete Download Options List | Ubuntu (at www.ubuntu.com)

00:31 <PovAddict> (webmaster: THANKS for not adding anchors to the page)

00:31 <PovAddict> /downloadmirrors#bittorrent would have been better

00:34 <MTughan> Okay, 504KB/s with torrent.

00:38 <MTughan> I was going to download the Gutsy beta, but with the release version less than two weeks away, there's no point.

00:45 * PovAddict sends another message to metalink google groups

00:45 <PovAddict> I hope 7.10 has official metalinks

00:45 <PovAddict> 7.04 release was a mess

00:45 <PovAddict> some impressive mirror overloads

00:45 <Romulus> there's also a fix you get a bonus - a well-crafted algorithm however...

00:49 <MTughan> 70% done...

00:49 <switchcat> 'official metalinks'?

00:50 <PovAddict> switchcat: download this and open it with a text editor

00:50 <PovAddict> http://download.packages.ro/metalink/ubuntu/ubuntu-7_04-desktop-i386_iso.metalink

00:51 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1153> (at download.packages.ro)

00:51 <MTughan> Torrent hashes?

00:51 <MTughan> And download locations.

00:52 <PovAddict> yep

00:52 <PovAddict> load that into a download manager that supports it, and let it do its thing

00:52 <MTughan> Oh, nice...

00:52 <PovAddict> if one of those hundred mirrors is overloaded... would just pick another

00:52 <PovAddict> and no need for a separate file with the hashes and *manually* compare

00:53 <PovAddict> plus, having per-chunk hashes, you can know which parts of the file are bad, and only download that

00:53 <PovAddict> only re-download that, I mean

00:54 <MTughan> Well, seems neither of my BitTorrent clients support metalinks.

00:55 <PovAddict> I use aria2

00:55 <PovAddict> (commandline)

00:55 <PovAddict> http://dfast.sourceforge.net/ <- supports metalinks too

00:55 <Romulus> Title: wxDownload Fast (or just wxDFast) - A great multithreaded and multi-plataform Download Manager (at dfast.sourceforge.net)

00:55 <MTughan> AH! wxWidgets!

00:55 <PovAddict> make your own downloader? :P

00:56 <MTughan> Well, just not going to use that one...

00:56 <MTughan> Ubuntu downloaded.

00:59 <PovAddict> found an (apparently shareware) download manager for mac

00:59 <MTughan> Please, no shareware. That stuff is annoying.

00:59 <PovAddict> well I don't know if it's actually like "30-day with nagscreen" or just missing features

01:00 <PovAddict> I just see separate "download" and "purchase" buttons

01:00 <PovAddict> ohh

01:00 <PovAddict> a full download manager... in a Firefox extension...

01:00 <PovAddict> http://www.downthemall.net/

01:00 <Romulus> Title: DownThemAll! (at www.downthemall.net)

01:02 <efc2> bought one of those a long time back

01:04 <MTughan> Oh gah... It's gotten warmer. At 1:00AM in the morning.

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01:13 <PovAddict> I think I'll head to bed

01:13 <Romulus> almost said,,had to back you up to the big probs i will watch though

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02:56 <E-30> hey

02:57 <efc2> moo

02:57 <E-30> how are you doing

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03:17 <E-30> hey desti

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05:37 <switchcat> okay it LOOKS like an uninstall and a reinstall finally solved my problems

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08:23 <xcamel> 'lo

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08:47 <xcamel> 'lo E

08:48 <E-30> hey

08:48 <E-30> how are you doing

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08:58 <E-30> hey yoyo

08:58 <Romulus> back on line 08:00 PDT on Saturday, and coming back on your net to basically zero each week, and I have used skype and we hates them

08:59 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

08:59 <E-30> how ar you doing today

09:00 <yoyo[RKN]> tired now

09:01 <yoyo[RKN]> my server runs smooth without  need to be touched

09:01 <E-30> i can guess how you fill

09:01 <E-30> there

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09:18 <xcamel> 'lo yoyo

09:19 <xcamel> what project are you running?

09:28 <yoyo[RKN]> yoyo@home http://www.rechenkraft.net/yoyo/

09:28 <Romulus> Title: yoyo@home (at www.rechenkraft.net)

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09:31 <xcamel> ah.. cool

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09:39 <xcamel> &weather 12074

09:39 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 53.3F / 11.8C | Humidity: 95% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1018.8hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Patchy drizzle this morning. Much cooler with highs in the upper 60s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows around 50. East winds around 5 mph.; Columbus Day - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers and (1 more message)

09:39 <xcamel> &more

09:39 <Romulus> xcamel: thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 70s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.;

09:39 <xcamel> cooled off quite a bit over night

09:40 <Soul_keeper> http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/6241_large_dprk-dmsp-dark-old.jpg

09:40 <Soul_keeper> amazing

09:40 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/117e> (at images.dailytech.com)

09:41 <Soul_keeper> n. korea compared to s. korea

09:41 <Soul_keeper> zero lights at night in the north

09:41 <xcamel> n vs s

09:41 <xcamel> yup

09:41 <Romulus> wonder if people like to see that one.

09:41 <Soul_keeper> lol

09:42 <Soul_keeper> i wonder what china and russia look like now ...

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09:51 <squashball_> hola, why is boinc-client starting 8 seti clients? (I have 2 procs and 2 seti clients are working on 100% cpu, but ps shows mit 8 seti clients)

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10:17 <xcamel> round robin scheduler - not running, just left in memory...

10:19 <squashball_> is that new in version 5.8.17?

10:22 <squashball_> where can I find information (changelog or similar) about that?

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11:11 <MTughan> New for version 5.8.17? How old was his BOINC client?

11:16 <MTughan> Hmm... Maybe giving Ubuntu 1GB RAM wasn't the smartest idea for a 2GB system. It's squeezing out all my other applications.

11:18 <MTughan> Oh, VM BTW.

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11:20 <MTughan> Ouch... Am I that boring?

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11:22 <PovAddict> or nobody's here

11:22 <PovAddict> it's the weekend

11:23 <MTughan> I can try. And it's not just the weekend here. Thanksgiving weekend in Canada, means a long weekend.

11:26 <MTughan> Gah... VM's taking 1.07GB physical RAM and 1.45GB virtual RAM.

11:27 <MTughan> Oh, thank goodness. Shut it down, now I have 1.08GB free RAM.

11:30 <c0dewarrior> MTughan: Sounds like java... ignores all attempts to limit its memory usage

11:30 <MTughan> Something like that.

11:30 <c0dewarrior> and howdy

11:30 <MTughan> Which are you talking about? Ubuntu or the VM?

11:30 <MTughan> And hi to you too.

11:31 <c0dewarrior> oh nm, misread what you said

11:31 <MTughan> Yeah, an OS is a little more notorious there.

11:32 <c0dewarrior> on another note, is there any way to force boinc to run 2 projects at the same time per processor?

11:33 <MTughan> Two projects per processor? Yeah, if it's a dual-core.

11:33 <PovAddict> wellduh

11:33 <PovAddict> c0dewarrior: why would you want that?

11:33 <c0dewarrior> no, that would mean 4 processes on a dual core

11:33 <PovAddict> "increases latency without increasing throughput"

11:33 <MTughan> I don't think so.

11:33 <c0dewarrior> PovAddict: Because there's some nice clock cycles going unused, some nice amounts of cache going unused

11:34 <MTughan> You could try specifying CPU time as 200%.

11:34 <c0dewarrior> PovAddict: and if you run a GPU based project then another processor going unused

11:34 <c0dewarrior> PovAddict: not such a stupid question...

11:34 <PovAddict> there are GPU-based BOINC projects?

11:34 <c0dewarrior> PovAddict: the same logic applies to hyperthreading...

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11:35 <c0dewarrior> PovAddict: there's nvidia libraries yes, so in theory if folks got off their arses :-p

11:35 <PovAddict> c0dewarrior: if you have HT, BOINC will run two tasks, as HT claims to be dualcore

11:35 <c0dewarrior> MTughan: tried, the crap user interface conveniently sets it back to 100% without notification

11:35 <MTughan> From boinc_cmd then?

11:35 <c0dewarrior> MTughan: k, tries boinc_cmd

11:36 <MTughan> Gotta find it on my machine...

11:37 <MTughan> Hmm... Not in the .app on Mac.

11:38 * MTughan doing a system-wide search.

11:38 <PovAddict> try boinccmd

11:38 <PovAddict> if boinc_cmd fails

11:38 <MTughan> Or did I skip over it...

11:38 <MTughan> Still not found.

11:39 <MTughan> I think I found it.

11:41 <c0dewarrior> for the record

11:41 <c0dewarrior> <ncpus> does not work on boinc 5.8.17 on linux...

11:41 <c0dewarrior> Sun 07 Oct 2007 17:40:15 SAST||Unrecognized tag in cc_config.xml: <ncpus>

11:41 <MTughan> Damn... the BOINC CLI doesn't work under my account.

11:41 <c0dewarrior> ignore the above

11:41 <c0dewarrior> might be cause it's in the wrong section

11:41 <c0dewarrior> :-9

11:42 <MTughan> File ownership or permissions are set in a way that does not allow sandboxed execution of BOINC applications. To use BOINC anyway, use the -insecure command line option. To change ownership/permission, reinstall BOINC or run the shell script Mac_SA_Secure.sh. (Error code -1022)

11:43 <MTughan> -insecure does nothing.

11:43 <PovAddict> MTughan: what did you run?

11:43 <PovAddict> boinc or boinccmd?

11:43 <MTughan> It's named boinc. "./boinc"

11:43 <PovAddict> that's the core client

11:43 <PovAddict> which you probably have already running

11:44 <MTughan> Well, there's no boinccmd for Mac then.

11:44 <PovAddict> aw

11:45 <c0dewarrior> if I would change one thing with boinc... I'd fscking be more verbose on actions taken by default

11:45 <PovAddict> like?

11:45 <c0dewarrior> why the hell ncpu's is being ignored

11:45 <MTughan> Maybe it's new for 5.10.x.

11:45 <PovAddict> did you add it to <cc_config>/<options>?

11:45 <c0dewarrior> (and why libcurl failed in the case of ubuntu)

11:45 <c0dewarrior> ayup

11:46 <c0dewarrior> MTughan: It's not complaining about it being an invalid element...

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11:46 * c0dewarrior tries on 5.10 on winblows

11:46 <MTughan> It basically is. "Unrecognized tag"

11:47 <PovAddict> if it doesn't complain, but it doesn't do anything, have a look at your preferences for the "use at most X processors" setting :)

11:47 <MTughan> That's not going to help.

11:47 <c0dewarrior> PovAddict: already did

11:48 <PovAddict> ncpus just makes BOINC think your computer has that many CPUs

11:48 <MTughan> That's to limit the number of processors/cores used by the client. Not projects per processor/core.

11:48 <c0dewarrior> PovAddict: I've stopped caring to try things on the 5.8 unix client, it's about as good as a 1kw engine in a wooden toy car

11:48 <MTughan> Nice analogy...

11:48 <PovAddict> MTughan: ncpus makes it think you have more cores

11:49 <MTughan> Limiting still won't have any impact on that.

11:49 <Romulus> XmasPover just recovering from 2hr+ power outage in Bellevue/Seattle impacting Steam Server availability. Unfortunately ETA for simap units says 2 hours

11:49 <MTughan> That is one twisted bot...

11:49 <PovAddict> if you make it think you have 10 CPUs but limit it to 2, it won't work :)

11:49 <MTughan> The default is 16. >_>

11:49 <PovAddict> people tweak settings

11:49 <PovAddict> I think I have tweaked every single setting out of its default at least once

11:50 <PovAddict> &cyborg twisted

11:50 <Romulus> PovAddict: T.W.I.S.T.E.D.: Transforming Wireless Individual Skilled in Thorough Exploration and Destruction

11:50 <c0dewarrior> so cruel

11:51 <PovAddict> &cyborg codewarior

11:51 <Romulus> PovAddict: C.O.D.E.W.A.R.I.O.R.: Cybernetic Operational Device Engineered for Worldwide Assassination, Rational Infiltration and Online Repair

11:51 <PovAddict> (10-letter limit)

11:51 <c0dewarrior> heh

11:54 <MTughan> Hmm... Any way to use root on an Ubuntu system. Password wasn't asked.

11:54 <c0dewarrior> sudo -s

11:54 <c0dewarrior> you have no root in ubuntu

11:54 <c0dewarrior> doesn't work with 5.10 on winblows either

11:55 * c0dewarrior is starting to get annoyed with the poor boinc

11:55 <MTughan> Hmm... Nice. So what does su do then?

11:56 <c0dewarrior> fails ;-)

11:56 <MTughan> Thanks...

11:56 <PovAddict> su asks you for the root password and says it's wrong

11:57 <c0dewarrior> sudo and su are chameleons of the same color

11:57 <PovAddict> but both change? :P

11:58 <c0dewarrior> grin, something like that

12:00 <c0dewarrior> I give up, today I will go on protest by shutting down all my boincs :-p

12:00 <PovAddict> idle CPU

12:00 <PovAddict> OH NOES

12:01 <c0dewarrior> Instead I'll render snow white for little kids..

12:01 <MTughan> Damn... Ubuntu can't download any packages now.

12:11 <MTughan> There we go.

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12:13 <PovAddict> MTughan: would you like a Javascript-based scheduler for BOINC? :P

12:14 <c0dewarrior> PovAddict: what you smoking?

12:14 <MTughan> And I thought you were sane...

12:14 <PovAddict> c0dewarrior: does the current BOINC let you do this automatically? "process only SIMAP workunits, don't get work from any other project, but when simap runs out of work, if there is 1 workunit left, crunch CPDN too, and if there's nothing left resume fetching work from other projects"

12:15 <Romulus> ^G Get Help ^O WriteOut ^R Read File ^Y Prev Pg ^K Cut Text ^C Cur Pos

12:15 <MTughan> nano!

12:15 <PovAddict> Romulus: ^Q

12:15 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: You need to have PySQLite installed to use this plugin.  Download it at <http://pysqlite.org/>

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12:15 <c0dewarrior> PovAddict: Dunno, does it? So far it doesn't make me coffee, so rather negative about it

12:16 <MTughan> Bah. You don't need coffee.

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12:16 <PovAddict> BOINC does what it wants and it's hard to control

12:17 <PovAddict> I was once suspending individual workunits trying to get a specific one to process

12:17 <PovAddict> it was like whac-a-mole

12:17 <c0dewarrior> PovAddict: agreed, proven that a long time ago.... and it's starting to frustrate

12:17 <c0dewarrior> PovAddict: agreed, ditto here

12:17 <PovAddict> suspend the one running, it stops, another random one starts

12:17 <PovAddict> suspend it too, another starts

12:17 <PovAddict> the one I wanted running didn't start until I had suspended ALL the others

12:17 <PovAddict> go murphy

12:18 <c0dewarrior> PovAddict: So it sounds like a community fork of boinc methinks

12:18 <c0dewarrior> *time for a ..

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12:18 <PovAddict> I'd rather write BOINC from scratch than have to deal with the existing code

12:19 <BadBarbarian> morning all

12:19 <PovAddict> morning

12:19 <c0dewarrior> PovAddict: *shudder*

12:19 <PovAddict> lolwut

12:19 <MTughan> lol. It's afternoon here. But morning to you.

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12:20 <PovAddict> c0dewarrior: but also, I'd rather go play bejeweled than rewrite BOINC, so brb

12:20 <c0dewarrior> PovAddict: agreed, there's the real reason for the frustration

12:24 <xcamel> re-back

12:24 <MTughan> re-'lo

12:24 <quail> morning all

12:24 <MTughan> And morning to you too.

12:24 * c0dewarrior throws a mutilated boinc client into the room as a welcome present to all

12:24 <quail> it very early morning here

12:25 <MTughan> lol 12:30PM here.

12:25 <MTughan> Oh, you're in Asia or Australia?

12:25 <xcamel> south africa

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12:25 <MTughan> Oh.

12:26 <MTughan> I guess Africa is a little more east than I thought...

12:26 <c0dewarrior> 0_o

12:26 <c0dewarrior> It'

12:26 * quail in aus

12:26 <c0dewarrior> It's 18h26 in SA..

12:26 <MTughan> Cool... You like Midnight Oil?

12:26 * MTughan is listening to Feeding Frenzy by Midnight Oil from Earth And Sun And Moon

12:26 <quail> it 2am here

12:27 <xcamel> quail never sleeps...

12:27 <c0dewarrior> &time

12:27 <Romulus> c0dewarrior: 12:27 PM, October 07, 2007

12:27 <MTughan> EDT.

12:28 <quail> xcamel: i slept all of sunday away

12:28 <xcamel> lol

12:28 <MTughan> lol, it's Eastern Daylight Time, but it's more west than east in the world.

12:28 * quail was really drunk from saturday night

12:28 <xcamel> ouchies..

12:28 <MTughan> :O

12:28 <xcamel> that's bad for you...

12:29 <xcamel> kills too many cosing cells....

12:29 <MTughan> What cells?

12:29 <xcamel> er coding cells even....

12:29 <quail> yeah, but i only do it once in a while now

12:29 <MTughan> Hey, maybe you'll prove the Ballmer peak...

12:30 <c0dewarrior> Steve Balmer knows how to peak?

12:30 <MTughan> http://www.xkcd.com/323/

12:30 <xcamel> my "Ballmer peak" was a small bump back in 1992

12:30 <Romulus> Title: xkcd - A webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language - By Randall Munroe (at www.xkcd.com)

12:35 <MTughan> bbiab. Can't miss out on shrimp.

12:39 <xcamel> back to cores for me too

12:40 <xcamel> dammnit...

12:40 <xcamel> back to chores for me too

12:40 <xcamel> there...

12:40 <xcamel> bbl..

12:46 <MTughan> c0dewarrior: You saw the comic?

12:47 * c0dewarrior looks

12:48 <c0dewarrior> ah, yes

12:48 <c0dewarrior> grin

12:48 <MTughan> So quail: did you hit the Ballmer peak?

12:54 <MTughan> :D 525KB/s download for Ubuntu packages. :D

13:04 <MTughan> WTF? My web browser seems to be running as root...

13:13 <MTughan> Wha? Anyone understand this? http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20071007

13:13 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/118r> (at ars.userfriendly.org)

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13:17 <MTughan> Hey, desti.

13:18 <desti> hi

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13:27 <MTughan> 'lo Zygentoma

13:27 <Romulus> ah you sure it's all xml files in a state in Saratoga county...

13:27 <MTughan> shush bot

13:28 <Zygentoma> hi

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13:36 <E-30> hey

13:36 <MTughan> hi

13:36 <E-30> how are you doing now

13:36 <MTughan> For what?

13:37 <E-30> oh welll

13:37 <E-30> army talk again

13:37 <E-30> how are you soing

13:37 <E-30> doing

13:37 <MTughan> Pretty good. Just finishing up the setup of Ubuntu on the VM.

13:38 <E-30> cool

13:39 <MTughan> Do you know if Ubuntu comes with Samba by default?

13:39 <E-30> i dont know

13:40 <Romulus> built my first was closer - may have picked up some memory it should

13:42 <MTughan> bbiab

13:43 <E-30> ok

13:56 <quail> MTughan: what version of ubuntu are you running?

14:07 <E-30> hey

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14:57 <MTughan> b

14:57 <MTughan> I'm running 7.04 Desktop.

14:58 <MTughan> Agh! You ever had it where water has soaked into your hands, and they itch like crazy, but you can't itch it or it'll get worse?

14:59 <c0dewarrior> MTughan: you bathing in acid?

14:59 <MTughan> No, just washed up some dishes.

14:59 <Romulus> and you do a wireless node on >>> http://southernvaleslug.org/modules/xoopsgallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album04&page=1

15:00 <efc> moo

15:00 <efc> never had water to that..

15:00 <MTughan> Hehe... He doesn't do title lists for links he posts in markovs.

15:00 <PovAddict> it doesn't do titles for any link it posts itself

15:01 <MTughan> No, you have to have water soak in for about 20+ minutes. For me anyway.

15:01 <PovAddict> (calling it "he" is insulting for lifeforms :P)

15:02 <MTughan> Cool... Ubuntu comes with Wine.

15:02 <PovAddict> have fun getting drunk

15:02 <MTughan> lol

15:02 <PovAddict> well I think you need quite a bit of wine for that

15:02 <MTughan> Just drink lots of water. :P

15:02 <PovAddict> oh yea

15:02 * PovAddict goes get water

15:03 <MTughan> rofl

15:03 <quail> MTughan: i am running 7.10 beta

15:03 <MTughan> I decided to wait on 7.10 because it's coming out in 10 days.

15:04 <quail> MTughan: it is stable as atm

15:04 <MTughan> I'm still gonna wait.

15:04 <quail> kewl

15:04 <PovAddict> we have 10 days to convince and help ubuntu use metalinks to avoid this release being as bad as previous one

15:06 <quail> :-)

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15:06 <E-30> ok i am back now

15:06 <MTughan_> This is Ubuntu.

15:07 <E-30> lol

15:07 <E-30> well i am having fune now with my computer again

15:08 <E-30> and working on my 12 computer sence i been back on thrusday night

15:08 <MTughan> Okay, now gonna really slow down my computer. Starting Fedora...

15:08 <E-30> there it is

15:08 <quail> eep fedora

15:08 <E-30> boom

15:08 * quail shudders

15:09 <MTughan> What's wrong with Fedora?

15:09 * E-30 ducks and take cover

15:09 <quail> MTughan: your a red hat pawn for there devopment

15:09 <MTughan> I still like Fedora over Ubuntu.

15:10 <quail> fedora is the development version for the commercial enterprise stuff

15:10 <quail> s/the there

15:10 <E-30> lol

15:10 <MTughan> s/there/their/

15:11 * quail just a debian freak

15:11 <E-30> lol

15:11 <E-30> cool

15:11 <quail> or if you want to get back to bare bones try slackware

15:11 <PovAddict> ask xcamel

15:11 <E-30> i still have fun with windows now becuse of gamming

15:11 <E-30> ghes good at that stuff

15:11 <PovAddict> game devs' fault

15:12 <E-30> yep

15:12 <E-30> waa

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15:12 <quail> E-30: becareful of the broken glass

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15:12 <E-30> why

15:12 <PovAddict> what broken glass? v*sta?

15:12 <E-30> i am still useing xp pro

15:13 <E-30> vista is out of my mind

15:13 <quail> 04:41:45 < E-30> i still have fun with windows now becuse of gamming

15:13 <E-30> i will not work on it eather

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15:13 <mtughan__> Damn you, Konversation.

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15:13 <E-30> lol

15:13 <quail> 04:41:45 < E-30> i still have fun with windows now becuse of gamming <<< 04:42:28 < quail> E-30: becareful of the broken glass

15:14 <MTughan__> Oh, you have fun gaming with Windows.

15:14 <PovAddict> but breaking windows is so easy

15:14 <MTughan__> brb

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15:14 <E-30> true and oc is not good there eather

15:14 <quail> format c: -s

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15:15 <E-30> wow

15:15 <MTughan__> lol

15:15 <MTughan__> lol

15:15 <MTughan__> Damn you again...

15:15 <E-30> he is bounceing like a ball now

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15:17 <E-30> ozzy is the shit

15:18 <MTughan__> Bye from Fedora.

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15:18 <E-30> well all i can say is battlefeld 2142 did not like me to day i was the death god for a day

15:18 <E-30> 400 kills in 2 hrs

15:18 <PovAddict> o.o

15:18 <PovAddict> crazy

15:18 <MTughan_> And bye from Ubuntu.

15:18 <quail> you killer you

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15:18 <E-30> i had to make up for a mouth with mnot playing

15:19 <c0dewarrior> E-30: nuclear proliferation still allowed in games I guess..

15:19 <MTughan> Hey, Kubuntu's shutdown screen is nice... I like the blues more than the oranges.

15:20 <MTughan> And now left with 1.12GB free RAM. :D

15:20 <PovAddict> "free RAM is wasted RAM"

15:20 <E-30> lol

15:20 <MTughan> Not always.

15:21 <PovAddict> it's always better if it's filled with some of the disk contents

15:21 <E-30> well i have 2 gigs of it and i have 70% free right now

15:21 <PovAddict> =cache

15:21 <E-30> true

15:21 <MTughan> You want lots of free RAM when you're going to power up two VMs at once.

15:21 <E-30> in case i am mox

15:21 <E-30> max

15:21 <MTughan> Hmm... Wonder how my system would respond with all three of my VMs powered up at once...

15:21 <PovAddict> if it's all programmed right, disk cache could be taken as free

15:21 <MTughan> >:)

15:21 <PovAddict> that is, whenever an app needs it, use it

15:22 <E-30> boinc is useing like 300 mb of ram now

15:22 <PovAddict> boinc?

15:22 <PovAddict> or what app?

15:22 <PovAddict> &math convert 256 MiB to bytes

15:22 <Romulus> PovAddict: 268435456

15:22 <E-30> its down to 200 mb now

15:23 <E-30> qmc

15:23 <PovAddict> ah

15:23 <PovAddict> qmc is a bit of a memory hog yeah

15:23 <E-30> 100 mb pur unit and i have 2 cors here

15:23 <PovAddict> latest Lattice app was worse I think

15:23 <MTughan> There. 1.15GB free now.

15:23 <E-30> cool

15:24 <MTughan> 1.22GB by shutting down Y!WE.

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15:26 <MTughan> Okay, all three booting.

15:26 <MTughan> 'lo yoyo.

15:32 <MTughan> Okay, not bad actually.

15:33 <MTughan> I have two running KDE, and Mandriva is running it's own thing, I think.

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15:38 <E-30> lol

15:38 <MTughan> But they're all running.

15:39 <PovAddict> ...slowly...

15:39 <PovAddict> :P

15:39 <MTughan> Actually, OS X is really the only slow one.

15:39 <E-30> well time for a restart

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15:45 <MTughan> quail: You have Ubuntu right? "apt-get moo" :D

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15:46 <E-30> ok i am back

15:46 <E-30> with a 600 mhz oc gworking now

15:47 <E-30> working

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16:04 <MTughan> And all shut down.

16:04 <MTughan> Hehe... I should boot Blender now...

16:06 <MTughan> 1.26GB free RAM!

16:07 <PovAddict> I have a whole CD .iso loaded in RAM

16:07 <PovAddict> and then some

16:07 <MTughan> Well, that's only 700MB.

16:07 <PovAddict> xdelta30q.exe: 1.78GB usage

16:07 <MTughan> Not very efficient with its memory, is it?

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16:08 <PovAddict> not at the insane settings I'm using

16:08 <PovAddict> it's actually using less memory than I told it to

16:08 <PovAddict> since the whole source file is smaller than the source window size I set

16:10 <MTughan> Shutting down Dashboard, 1.29GB free RAM... This is becoming like a challenge.

16:10 <PovAddict> now do you think I could use Eclipse while this thing runs?

16:10 <MTughan> ...

16:10 <PovAddict> can you lend me some RAM? lol

16:10 <MTughan> Would suicide be the right word?

16:10 <PovAddict> 1.7GB in use by xdelta

16:10 <PovAddict> 2GB total physical

16:10 <MTughan> 300MB left for everything, including Windoze...

16:11 <PovAddict> well, it says 2.05GB of total virtual memory in use

16:11 <MTughan> Yeah, we'll say Eclipse isn't the smartest idea right now.

16:11 <PovAddict> of course, I closed Skype and YWE

16:11 <MTughan> Yeah.

16:11 <PovAddict> well anyway

16:11 <PovAddict> 2.05GB of virtual memory in use

16:11 <PovAddict> way better than what I was used to on the other computer

16:12 <PovAddict> *average* was 700MB vm in use, while having 512MB physical

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16:12 <MTughan> Hehe... 14.64GB VRAM here.

16:12 <PovAddict> IN USE?

16:12 <MTughan> I think so.

16:12 <PovAddict> !

16:12 * efc sometimes wonders where all the stinkin ram is going

16:13 <PovAddict> bloatware

16:13 <PovAddict> progress: 120MB / 694MB

16:13 <MTughan> &math calc 12-/694

16:13 <Romulus> MTughan: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)

16:13 <MTughan> &math calc 120/694

16:13 <Romulus> MTughan: 0.172910662824

16:13 <MTughan> 17% done.

16:14 <PovAddict> no... wait

16:14 <PovAddict> one file on the diff is 694MB

16:14 <PovAddict> that one is totally loaded in RAM

16:14 <PovAddict> the other is a DVD

16:14 <PovAddict> which is read sequentially

16:14 <PovAddict> ...

16:14 <PovAddict> so actually it's 152MB / 4.4GB

16:15 <PovAddict> gonna take a while eh?

16:15 <MTughan> Hehe... kernel's taking 1.38GB VM.

16:15 <MTughan> Oh yeah.

16:15 <MTughan> My IRC client is next at 534MB.

16:16 <PovAddict> I won't survive that much time with an app eating 85% of my physical RAM

16:17 <PovAddict> killed, 348MB virtual memory in use

16:17 <MTughan> http://michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org/ActivityMonitor.png

16:17 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/11$0> (at michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org)

16:18 <MTughan> I don't know, maybe Macs just take a huge amount of RAM to run.

16:19 <MTughan> I'd be killing myself if I had left this with the default 512MB RAM.

16:19 <efc> They've historically taken a lot compared to the same-era dos/windows machine. You could see why during DOS but..

16:19 <MTughan> But 15+GB virtual RAM for normal use?

16:20 <PovAddict> what is Microsoft AU Dae?

16:20 <MTughan> Daemon*

16:20 <MTughan> Not sure exactly what it does.

16:20 <MTughan> Came with Ofice.

16:20 <MTughan> Office*

16:22 <MTughan> Oh... From a Mac forum: "the office one is related to entourage ... i believe it is what reminds you of upcoming events.. etc.. you're probably safe ditching it"

16:22 <MTughan> I don't use Entourage, so I can probably remove it from startup.

16:23 <MTughan> BTW, Entourage is equivalent to Outlook.

16:23 <MTughan> Oh, but another site says auto-update...

16:24 <PovAddict> "A buffer overflow vulnerability and several memory corruptions have been discovered in libvorbis."

16:25 <MTughan> Nice...

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16:27 <MTughan> Oh well. I'll leave it for now. Not sure if I am going to keep Office on here, because the graphics suck with my modifications, and OpenOffice does just about as well.

16:29 <PovAddict> ok, I killed it and started it again with different input files and slightly lower memory usage

16:29 <PovAddict> 1.5 gig

16:29 <PovAddict> I guess it's *still* a bad idea to use eclipse

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16:30 <PovAddict> :o it's seth /o\

16:30 <sethy> :o

16:30 <MTughan> ...

16:30 <sethy> :(

16:30 <MTughan> lol

16:30 * sethy sits in the dark corner

16:30 <MTughan> You're always welcome.

16:30 <PovAddict> &8b is sethy welcome?

16:30 <Romulus> PovAddict: _I_ don't know.

16:31 <MTughan> &cyborg sethy

16:31 <Romulus> MTughan: S.E.T.H.Y.: Synthetic Electronic Technician Hardwired for Yelling

16:31 <Romulus> Jan was in this case to combine PDF files

16:31 <MTughan> lol

16:32 <PovAddict> MTughan: got some free CPU time on your brain?

16:32 <MTughan> Wha?

16:32 <PovAddict> http://stardustathome.berkeley.edu/

16:32 <Romulus> Title: Stardust@Home (at stardustathome.berkeley.edu)

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16:36 * sethy eats his noodles

16:36 <sethy> so what happened to CFL?

16:36 <sethy> &seen Spit_theDog

16:36 <Romulus> sethy: Spit_theDog was last seen in #boinc 20 weeks, 4 days, 10 hours, 7 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <Spit_theDog> Bye for now all :)

16:36 <sethy> :(

16:36 <PovAddict> I think he went to Miami for w$%&

16:36 <sethy> :o

16:36 <sethy> :(

16:37 <PovAddict> (19:54:03) CoderOnTheRoad: had Mickey Mouse cook me a strip steak

16:37 <sethy> OHSHIT

16:37 <PovAddict> oh, Orlando

16:37 <sethy> OH?

16:38 <sethy> PovAddict, tell my why my noodles look like zombie brains

16:39 <MTughan> O_O

16:39 <PovAddict> ...

16:39 <PovAddict> thanks for the mental images

16:39 <sethy> :D

16:39 * sethy offers noodles

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16:40 <MTughan> Perfect timing...

16:40 <sethy> ish

16:40 * sethy offers CoderForLife noodles

16:40 <MTughan> Apparently, they look like zombie brains.

16:42 <c0dewarrior> only if you've left them in the pot for a week after cooking....

16:54 <xcamel> back again

16:56 <MTughan> Ah, there we go. Third time's the charm.

16:58 <xcamel> 200' drain line in and working....

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17:00 <CoderOnTheRoad> hello

17:04 <CoderOnTheRoad> hey sethy

17:04 <efc> moo

17:05 <xcamel> soo.. wazzup?

17:05 <CoderOnTheRoad> hey efc

17:05 <CoderOnTheRoad> they have rain in Florida

17:06 <efc> water for the elderly

17:06 <xcamel> 6" drainguard pipe trenched in - spring water starting to run

17:06 <efc> You have a spring?

17:06 <xcamel> underground in the sand

17:06 <CoderOnTheRoad> how was the trenching - hard baked?

17:07 <xcamel> not too bad

17:07 <CoderOnTheRoad> good work

17:07 <xcamel> now just depending on hydraulic pressure to push the water out

17:08 <xcamel> really fine glacial sands

17:08 <efc> several people around here have dug up springs to make lakes, nice, but it doesn't do the water table much good

17:08 <efc> they are below us in elevation

17:08 <xcamel> this water is trapped by a rock formation

17:09 * efc simply wants a few hundred GPM and a 100' elevation change.. is it too much to ask, really?

17:09 <xcamel> apparently, yes.

17:10 <xcamel> this is measured in gallons per day at the moment

17:11 <xcamel> but after the first hard frost it'll pick up quite a bit - trees still taking up water etc.

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17:17 <MTughan> As long as it doesn't freeze.

17:17 *** BadBarbarian has joined #boinc

17:17 <MTughan> Having connection issues?

17:18 <BadBarbarian> lol no getting the password right

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17:18 <BadBarbarian> lol

17:18 <xcamel> 'lo Bad B

17:18 <BadBarbarian> howdy X

17:18 <MTughan> Any relation to Big X?

17:18 <xcamel> how goes it?

17:19 <MTughan> (The Great Escape)

17:19 <BadBarbarian> woke up to 15 Degrees this morning

17:19 <xcamel> C or F ??

17:19 <BadBarbarian> f

17:19 <MTughan> !

17:19 <MTughan> &math convert 15 F to C

17:19 <Romulus> MTughan: -9.44444444444

17:19 <MTughan> That's cold...

17:20 <BadBarbarian> yes it is

17:20 <xcamel> wow - rocky mountain snow job?

17:20 <MTughan> 17C here.

17:20 <BadBarbarian> i live at 2500 meters

17:20 <MTughan> That could do it...

17:20 <xcamel> friggin burrrrrrrrrrr........

17:20 <BadBarbarian> feels like it but clear skys

17:20 <CoderOnTheRoad> hey BB

17:20 <xcamel> the high frosty desert of AZ

17:21 <MTughan> I'm envious of you. We've had 28C weather just a week ago.

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17:21 <xcamel> we had it yesterday... got to 85F

17:21 <MTughan> Now that's a new one...

17:21 <BadBarbarian> hey coder whats up

17:21 <CoderOnTheRoad> good to see you back here BadBarbarian

17:21 <MTughan> *Zygentoma left the chat room. (No route to host)

17:22 <MTughan> What does no route to host mean different to connection timed out?

17:23 <xcamel> yummy... dinner on the desk...

17:24 <xcamel> one of the links between routers dropped out...

17:26 <BadBarbarian> had some helth issues to resolve

17:26 <xcamel> feeling better now?

17:26 <BadBarbarian> much

17:27 <xcamel> good... getting out for walks yet?

17:27 <BadBarbarian> spent a month in va hospital with an bad bad infection

17:28 <BadBarbarian> all most killed me lol

17:28 *** c0dewarrior_ is now known as c0de

17:28 <BadBarbarian> antibiotics didnt work

17:28 <xcamel> superbug?

17:28 <CoderOnTheRoad> you've been through a lot Bad Barbarian

17:29 <c0de> CoderOnTheRoad: to where?

17:29 <CoderOnTheRoad> I'm in Orlando Florida c0de

17:29 <CoderOnTheRoad> Mickey Mouse says to say Hi

17:30 <xcamel> McMouseVille...

17:30 <c0de> kill him for me, he always irritated me..

17:30 <c0de> ;-)

17:31 <xcamel> to a 6 year old, M. Mouse is just a 6' f'n RAT!

17:31 <c0de> lol

17:31 <BadBarbarian> why did mickey get a divorce

17:31 <MTughan> Hehe...

17:31 <xcamel> (part of a Robin Williams comedy routine)

17:31 <CoderOnTheRoad> Last  I saw Mickey, he was a homicide bomber on Islam TV

17:31 <MTughan> o_O

17:32 <xcamel> not because minnie was crazy....

17:32 <BadBarbarian> he he something about goofy

17:32 * c0de breaks out laughing

17:32 <xcamel> she was F*'s Goofy!

17:32 <BadBarbarian> lol

17:32 <CoderOnTheRoad> I saw Goofy here - he was dressed as a vampire

17:33 <BadBarbarian> thats scary

17:33 <CoderOnTheRoad> very  buck teeth fangs

17:33 <c0de> a goofy vampire.. now that's a bloody laugh

17:33 <xcamel> rather have Buffy the vampire.....

17:34 <xcamel> um...slayer....

17:34 * BadBarbarian slaps xcamel with a 40lb Unix Manual

17:34 <BadBarbarian> lol

17:34 <MTughan> Hmm... How should I describe this conversation? I think morbid isn't strong enough...

17:34 <c0de> hehehehe

17:34 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86046

17:34 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 60.6F / 15.9C | Humidity: 24% | Pressure: 23.74in / 803.8hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny. Highs 55 to 61. Light winds.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 24 to 32. Light winds.; Columbus Day - Warmer...sunny. Highs 64 to 70. Light winds.;

17:35 <xcamel> &zipinfo 86046

17:35 <Romulus> xcamel: City: Williams; State: AZ; County: Coconino; Area Code: 928; Time Zone: MST; Daylight Savings: N; Latitude: 35.6062 (North); Longitude: 112.4411 (West)

17:35 <MTughan> Well, that corresponds with the IP address.

17:35 <c0de> MTughan: One of the most interesting conversations yet :-p

17:35 <BadBarbarian> lol

17:35 * c0de points at the BadBarbarian. He started it!

17:36 <xcamel> well... out for a walk with the wifey... back in a bit....

17:36 <MTughan> ;p;

17:36 <MTughan> lol*

17:36 * BadBarbarian slaps c0de with a rainbow trout

17:36 <MTughan> Colourful...

17:37 * c0de hides in the rainbow nation

17:37 <c0de> MTughan: Offset by one column on the keyboard there bud..

17:37 <MTughan> No, in the rainbow notion.

17:37 <MTughan> I know.

17:37 * c0de hans MTughan a spanner to tune his keyboard

17:37 <MTughan> On a laptop?

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17:38 <BadBarbarian> yes

17:38 <c0de> good point

17:38 <MTughan> Wait, off by one column on which message?

17:38 * c0de hands MTughan a hammer

17:38 <MTughan> lol

17:38 <MTughan> The ;p;?

17:38 <c0de> aye

17:38 <MTughan> I know. That's what happens when you use one hand, and don't check where it is.

17:38 <c0de> 0_0

17:39 * c0de wonders where the other hand is

17:39 <MTughan> Hanging down.

17:39 <c0de> grin, k enough fun for one day... (settles back into the background)

17:39 <MTughan> Not doing anything sick...

17:40 <BadBarbarian> so hows the weather in LA. MTughan

17:40 * CoderOnTheRoad thinks about getting some dinner someplace

17:40 <MTughan> LA?

17:40 <MTughan> I'm not in California...

17:41 <BadBarbarian> lol neotrace sucks lol

17:41 <MTughan> &weather Toronto

17:41 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 61°F / 16°C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 30.08in / 1018hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 5:13 PM EDT; Tonight - Cloudy. 40 percent chance of drizzle early this evening and of showers late this evening and overnight. Clearing. Risk of a thunderstorm late this evening and overnight. Temperature steady near 17C(63F).; Monday - A mix of (2 more messages)

17:41 <MTughan> Yeah, if you trace my IP, I find it always points to a spot in Georgia.

17:41 <CoderOnTheRoad> &weather Lake Buena Vista, FL

17:41 <MTughan> &more

17:41 <Romulus> MTughan: sun and cloud. 40 percent chance of showers in the afternoon with the risk of a thunderstorm. High 30C(86F). UV index 4 or moderate. Monday night cloudy periods with 60 percent chance of showers. Risk of a thunderstorm. Wind west 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light in the evening. Wind becoming east 30 km/h (19 mph) overnight. Low 16C(61F).; Tuesday - A mix of sun and cloud with 40 percent chance of (1 more message)

17:41 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: Temperature: 81.3F / 27.4C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 29.94in / 1013.8hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 4.0mph / 6.4km/h ; Tonight - Considerable cloudiness before sunset then becoming partly cloudy. Scattered showers and isolated thunderstorms before sunset. Lows in the lower 70s. East winds 10 to 15 mph becoming northeast 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 (1 more message)

17:41 <BadBarbarian> lol

17:41 <CoderOnTheRoad> &more

17:41 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: percent.; Columbus Day - Partly sunny with a slight chance of showers. Highs in the upper 80s. East winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Monday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows in the lower 70s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.;

17:42 <c0de> had some nasty lightning storms here the past few days

17:42 <MTughan> &more

17:42 <Romulus> MTughan: showers. High 21C(70F).;

17:42 <c0de> fried one earth leakage :-/

17:42 <CoderOnTheRoad> I think FL is the lightning capital of the world

17:43 <MTughan> brb, have to feed the cat.

17:43 <c0de> I beg to differ

17:43 <BadBarbarian> you will be seeing this cold frount in a day or 2

17:44 <c0de> CoderOnTheRoad: Think we have one of the areas with the most lightning strikes per square kilometer in the world...

17:45 <c0de> CoderOnTheRoad: ok, second to florida :-p

17:45 <CoderOnTheRoad> http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast05dec_1.htm

17:45 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/11$U> (at science.nasa.gov)

17:48 <MTughan> I've always wondered how they get lightning bolts on camera... Do they shoot video and grab a frame?

17:48 <BadBarbarian> yep

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17:51 <c0de> BadBarbarian: interesting, as I've done shots with a digital SLR with multishot of lightning

17:51 <c0de> BadBarbarian: Not to mention a mate who's rigged a high luminance digital trigger for a DSLR

17:51 <MTughan> "a mate"? Australian?

17:52 <c0de> what do you prefer?

17:52 <MTughan> "Not to mention someone who's..." would probably be the North American way.

17:53 <c0de> you loving me time?

17:53 <c0de> :-p

17:53 <MTughan> ?

17:53 <BadBarbarian> ;-)

17:53 <BadBarbarian> lol

17:54 * CoderOnTheRoad out to dinner

17:54 <CoderOnTheRoad> bbl

17:55 <c0de> MTughan: Here we tend to mix all flavours of english ;-)

17:55 <MTughan> Bye.

17:55 <c0de> adieu

17:57 <c0de> MTughan: Did you ever have luck with wxw? Have had some distractions so haven't had a chance to look

17:57 <MTughan> Never tried to use it.

17:57 <MTughan> And I don't like it. Doesn't go along with ShapeShifter mods.

17:58 <c0de> my bad, was meant for xcamel

17:59 <c0de> and forgot he's out

17:59 <MTughan> He's not marked as away.

17:59 <MTughan> Oh, right...

17:59 <c0de> he said he's taking a walkie

17:59 <MTughan> With wifey.

18:00 <c0de> yup

18:00 <c0de> k, have to go.. bbl

18:01 <PovAddict> MTughan: did you have a look at stardust@home?

18:02 <MTughan> Yeah.

18:02 <PovAddict> I just failed the test :( they made it really more tricky on the new phase

18:02 <MTughan> I passed on the third try.

18:03 <PovAddict> well, first time I did it (many months ago, when they had just started), I think I passed on first try (even though it wasn't 10/10)

18:03 <c0de> MTughan: feeling violated with all the probing! :-p

18:03 <MTughan> Oh, it's asking for confirmation?

18:03 <PovAddict> MTughan: they're on Phase 2, using higher-resolution images of some specific parts

18:03 <MTughan> I know they're on phase 2.

18:05 <MTughan> Hehe...

18:05 <MTughan> http://michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org/CPUUsage.png

18:05 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/11$h> (at michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org)

18:05 <MTughan> BOINC's on 75% CPU time.

18:07 <MTughan> bbiab. IRC shouldn't quit, but it might.

18:17 <MTughan> Okay, what I was trying to do didn't quite go as expected, but I can still work with it. Off to dinner.

18:24 * efc considers taking up writing sci fi novels even though he never reads them

18:24 <xcamel> back from walkies...

18:25 <xcamel> boinc can run at 100% with no problem

18:25 <PovAddict> xcamel: MTughan has heat problems

18:25 <PovAddict> laptop

18:25 <Romulus> I'd like to be here.... will be when I show you

18:26 <efc> I gave up running it on laptops

18:26 <efc> it was burning my dad's legs off

18:29 <MTughan> Well, I usually run it on a desk. It's running at 72C now.

18:29 <MTughan> &convert 72 C to F

18:29 <Romulus> MTughan: Error: The command "convert" is available in the Currency and Math plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "convert".

18:29 <MTughan> &math convert 72 C to F

18:29 <Romulus> MTughan: 161.6

18:29 <MTughan> I have had it up to 88C before though.

18:29 <efc> They don't seem to really be designed for full CPU all the time

18:29 <MTughan> Not with the crappy fans put in there.

18:29 <efc> on his last one some RAM went out, I'm thinking due to heat

18:30 <MTughan> I've had part of a port melt.

18:30 <MTughan> It still works.

18:39 * CoderOnTheRoad had part of his brain melt - the jury is out as to the results

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19:02 <xcamel> yup - heat can be a problem...

19:08 <CoderOnTheRoad> logging off 4 2 nite

19:08 <CoderOnTheRoad> cya folks

19:09 <xcamel> laterz...

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20:05 <efc> ran my mile, felt more-or-less good

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20:32 * xcamel yawns

20:32 <MTughan> 'lo

20:33 <MTughan> Or are you tired then?

20:39 * quail up to season 2 in the X-Files

20:42 <xcamel> the old ones were great..

20:45 <quail> yeah :-)

20:45 <quail> brb got to goto the shops

20:47 <xcamel> and get coffee....

20:48 <MTughan> Bah. You don't need coffee.

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20:53 <efc> driving home, later

20:53 *** efc has quit IRC

21:04 <xcamel> dragging off to the showers...

21:04 <BadBarbarian> see ya

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21:37 <quail> b

21:37 <MTughan> Well, ##java is a lot busier than this.

21:38 <BadBarbarian> hi quail hows lafe downunder

21:38 <MTughan> Wow... brb there meant 52 minutes...

21:39 <quail> BadBarbarian: hiya, longtime no see. not to bad thx, bit tired atm tho. how are things wwith you?

21:40 <BadBarbarian> lol wokeup to -9c this morning

21:41 <BadBarbarian> liveing at 2500 meters can be interesing

21:43 <quail> what need to supply your own oxygen?

21:44 <BadBarbarian> lol

21:44 <BadBarbarian> its not that high

21:45 <BadBarbarian> northern arizona is all up there the south rim of the grand canyon is 6000 feet

21:59 <quail> yep

21:59 <quail> i was only joking about the oxygen ;-)

22:00 * xcamel is away: Gone away for now.

22:00 *** xcamel is now known as xcamel_away

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23:05 <BadBarbarian> hi bak

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