IRC logs of #boinc for Wednesday, 2007-10-10

00:00 <MTughan> Midnight...

00:01 <MTughan> And a new comic...

00:01 <MTughan> Haha! Great!

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00:02 <PovAddict> XDD

00:02 <MTughan> Now CAD...

00:02 <PovAddict> as people on forum expected... he wouldn't resist playing it

00:03 <MTughan> Oops... Good to be prompt, Ethan. :P

00:03 <MTughan> Yeah.

00:03 <MTughan> So the question becomes: now what?

00:03 <MTughan> Does he make off with Mass Effect, or is caught and possibly interrogated? And what happens with Lucas and Lilah?

00:03 <PovAddict> whoa

00:04 <PovAddict> four threads

00:04 <MTughan> In three minutes? Wow...

00:07 <MTughan> And that's why fonts are vectors... So you can blow them up to 200 without pixelating.

00:13 <PovAddict>

00:13 <Romulus> <> (at

00:15 <MTughan> O_O That's BOINC, just under a different name...

00:15 <PovAddict> no, it's more on the extremely-low-latency distributed computing

00:15 <PovAddict> say... the way google searches work in 0.01 seconds

00:15 <MTughan> Well, same purpose of BOINC.

00:16 <PovAddict>

00:16 <Romulus> <> (at

00:16 <MTughan> Why the colours?

00:16 <PovAddict> fancy supybot features

00:17 <MTughan> Well, I can read all that later. I'm nearly done my movie.

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00:20 <PovAddict> well, I'm outta here

00:21 <MTughan> Bye.

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00:42 <BadBarbarian> evening all

00:42 <MTughan> 'lo BB

00:42 <MTughan> You know any SQL?

00:42 <BadBarbarian> a little lol very little

00:43 <MTughan> Well, try the new XKCD.

00:43 <Romulus> Title: xkcd - A webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language - By Randall Munroe (at

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01:00 <efc> what SQl do you want, i remember a bit

01:01 <MTughan> No, it's for the comic. I know quite a bit of MySQL myself.

01:02 <MTughan> With PovAddict's help, that is. I learned it with his help.

01:04 <MTughan> Cool... Video's done, and I have a disc image. Now I just have to go upstairs and burn it to a DVD.

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01:05 <MTughan> lol... Disc image's 38MB in size... And I'm putting it on a DVD. :P

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01:06 <freelarry> humm like the new pirates screensaver graphics

01:06 * MTughan looks around for pirates...

01:06 <MTughan> I don't see any. :(

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01:10 <freelarry> its thier new wu's

01:11 <freelarry> had a few and just happened to see one start so looked at praphics

01:11 <freelarry> graphics even

01:11 <Romulus> you could try forcing it to get to where you need one, else I have that prob when i get more than one at the gar.b.age sale?

01:12 <freelarry> pirates@home that is

01:12 <MTughan> Ah.

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01:27 <Soul_keeper> hey did they ever find that old rich guy whose flight dissapeared not long ago ?

01:28 <freelarry> don't think so

01:28 <MTughan> I don't know. I didn't hear about that...

01:28 <MTughan> Actually, I might've. Not sure.

01:28 <freelarry> after 10 days  they stopped frantic searching and placed into recover file type

01:32 <Soul_keeper> amazing that you can see your truck in your driveway on google maps, yet they can't find a missing airplane  i dunno ...

01:32 <MTughan> You know where you're looking for your truck.

01:33 <freelarry> well they did use some satilite imaging but didn't find him - but did find some missing for a lot longer

01:34 <freelarry> as for google map and micro locator the images i see are a few years old

01:34 <efc> tons of wrecks out there

01:35 <freelarry> vry

01:35 <efc> makes you wonder about all those people..

01:35 <freelarry> some are just abandoned wrecks from speed test's

01:37 <freelarry> well time to go to bed - isp supposed to be here first thing in am to reroute modem line

01:37 <freelarry> &nn all

01:37 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

01:37 <MTughan> Night.

01:37 <efc> night

01:40 <MTughan> Hmm... Just installed Compiz Fusion on Fedora, and I seem to have lost titlebars on windows.

01:45 <MTughan> Oh, titlebars are up. That was odd...

01:47 <MTughan> Okay, compiz does seem to work better than Beryl.

01:48 <Romulus> "I sold my book with me to wander away, too

01:51 <MTughan> Oh crap... 2AM here. I really need to get to bed. Night to all.

01:53 <efc> night

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05:59 <CoderOnTheRoad> morning any and all

06:00 <CoderOnTheRoad> &weather 45140

06:00 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: Temperature: 57.4F / 14.1C | Humidity: 74% | Pressure: 29.79in / 1008.7hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Today - Sunny this morning...then becoming partly sunny. Cooler with highs in the mid 60s. West winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming northwest 10 to 15 mph this afternoon.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the lower 40s. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; (1 more message)

06:00 <CoderOnTheRoad> &more

06:00 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: Thursday - Mostly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of showers. Highs in the upper 50s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.;

06:00 <CoderOnTheRoad> &weather Lake Buena Vista, FL

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06:02 <CoderOnTheRoad> &more

06:02 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: after midnight.; Thursday - Partly sunny. Highs in the upper 80s. North winds 5 to 10 mph.;

06:02 <CoderOnTheRoad> 30 degrees difference between here and home today

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06:24 <hawmps> 'lo

06:46 <CoderOnTheRoad> hey

06:48 <CoderOnTheRoad> off to breakfast with my Gartner sales rep - cya later

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07:02 <desti>

07:02 <Romulus> <> (at

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09:16 <sethy> how old is MTughan?

09:17 <sethy> cause he said school so i would imagine younger than me D:

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09:42 <FauxFaux> A

09:42 <PovAddict> B?

09:42 <hawmps> C?

09:42 <FauxFaux> Hehe, up arrow on my keyborad changes to this window and sends A to the channel, awesome.

09:42 <FauxFaux> I /love/ linux.

09:56 <sethy> in irssi?

09:57 <Romulus> its for me to play a video of that? And yes, I've tried superuser.

09:57 <sethy> orly?

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09:57 <sethy> OHSHI-

09:57 * sethy RUNS AWAY

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10:12 <mac_55> could anyone help me please? I'm getting this error when trying to run boinc..."[error] GUI RPC bind failed: 98"

10:13 <PovAddict> usual reason for that is that boinc is already running

10:13 <mac_55> how do I kill it off?

10:14 <PovAddict> ... why would you want to?

10:14 <PovAddict> kill it off to start it again?

10:14 <mac_55> yup

10:19 <mac_55> doing ps ux doesn't show any boinc processes

10:20 <PovAddict> distro?

10:20 <Romulus> we smelled something hot - just reading up on the new nvidia beta drivers for my working >5.9.10 *nix ????

10:21 <mac_55> tell a lie, there was one process running

10:22 <mac_55> 'This computer is not attached to any projects'

10:31 <mac_55> is anyone here a member of the ps3grid project?

10:32 <PovAddict> I don't own *any* game console

10:33 <mac_55> I can't seem to find a project key anywhere on their website

10:33 <mac_55> grr

10:33 <PovAddict> project key?

10:33 <Romulus> that's the one that has something in the shade"

10:33 <PovAddict> did you create an account?

10:34 <mac_55> yeah I created account

10:34 <PovAddict> why do you need an account key? you should attach with email+password

10:34 <mac_55> all I can find is a cross-project-id

10:35 <mac_55> oh?

10:35 <PovAddict> are you running the client on your ps3 now?

10:35 <mac_55> yes

10:35 <PovAddict> any idea what BOINC version it is?

10:35 <mac_55> I can find out

10:35 <mac_55> 5.10.6 powerpc64-ps3-linux-gnu

10:36 <PovAddict> new enough...

10:36 <PovAddict> I have no idea about linux on ps3 - do you get a GUI?

10:36 <mac_55> "    --attach_project <URL> <key>    attach to a project"

10:36 <PovAddict> is that a parameter to 'boinc'?

10:36 <mac_55> yes

10:37 <PovAddict> don't use that

10:37 <PovAddict> 'boinc' is the core client, you only run it once

10:37 <mac_55> I haven't seen a GUI, but that doesn't mean there isn't one

10:37 <PovAddict> then use 'boinccmd' to control the running client

10:37 <PovAddict> or boincmgr for the graphical way to control the running client

10:37 <zombie67> i am on ps3grid

10:38 <mac_55> there's no boinccmd but there's a boincmgr. It says segmentation fault when I run it

10:38 <zombie67> first, make sure you are using the custom BOINC client from the PS3GRID site

10:38 <PovAddict> what about boinc_cmd?

10:38 <mac_55> check :)

10:39 <zombie67> second, you can run the GUI (boincmgr)

10:39 <zombie67> just a sec and I will tell you the name

10:39 <mac_55> ta

10:40 <zombie67> double click on the RUN_BOINC icon

10:40 <sethy> RUN_BOINC

10:40 <zombie67> select "run" with the pop up dialog box

10:41 <mac_55> right

10:41 <mac_55> I did that, but it's not displaying

10:41 <PovAddict> zombie67: any idea what changes they did to the ps3grid client? isn't it just the official code compiled for Cell?

10:42 <sethy> PovAddict: there was a fire in college today

10:42 <PovAddict> :o

10:42 <sethy> shame i wasnt killed D:

10:42 <PovAddict> ...wt

10:42 <PovAddict> shame?

10:42 <sethy> yea

10:42 <sethy> i was on 6th floor!

10:42 <zombie67> it is more than just BOINC compiled for PPC/linux

10:42 <zombie67> it allows the application to see the SPEs.

10:43 <PovAddict> BOINC doesn't change what the application "sees" of the CPU...

10:43 <mac_55> nope, nothing's loaded up. Do I need to kill the boinc process first?

10:44 <zombie67> mac_55, my first thought would be to reboot, so you are starting fresh.  also, make sure you have applied all the updates for YDL

10:44 <zombie67> yes, you don't want the BOINC cc already running

10:44 <mac_55> okay, will do

10:44 <mac_55> I haven't applied the updates, you can probably tell that I'm quite a newbie when it comes to linux

10:45 <mac_55> I'll find out how though

10:45 <zombie67> Pov, that is what I recall.  I am not very familiar with what makes it unique.  I am sure they say somewhere on the forum

10:46 <sethy> but yea there was a fire in the females toilets because someone didnt put out their cigarette and just threw it in the bin

10:46 <mac_55> I'm not finding the ps3grid site very helpful :(

10:46 <sethy> PovAddict

10:46 <sethy> <3

10:47 <mac_55> so, what's the performance like of the ps3 client?

10:47 <zombie67> mac_55, application -> system tools -> software management -> software update

10:48 <mac_55> thanks :)

10:48 <zombie67> ~3900 points per day on PS3GRID

10:48 <PovAddict> apparently the official client thinks the CPU has two processors

10:48 <mac_55> I'm still battling with the resolution of my tv with ydl at the moment, it's a right pain

10:48 <sethy> in soviet russia, the CPU thinks the official client has 2 processors

10:48 <zombie67> ~2100 PPD on yoyo@home

10:49 <zombie67> mac_55, me too

10:49 <sethy> mac_55: in soviet russia, resolution battles you

10:49 <sethy> :D

10:49 <zombie67> the alt key is your friend

10:49 <c0dewarrior> only when used together with ctrl and delete

10:49 <zombie67> hold it down whil you click/deag

10:49 <zombie67> click/drag

10:50 <PovAddict> zombie67: do you get decent 3d accel from Linux on ps3?

10:50 <PovAddict> I heard linux doesn't have much access to the PS3 GPU

10:50 <zombie67> dunno

10:50 <zombie67> I only use it to run BOINC

10:50 <PovAddict> would be nice to run compiz fusion on the ps3 lol

10:52 <mac_55> lol@ the soviet jokes

10:52 <zombie67> POV, I asked what was unique about their boinc client here:

10:52 <mac_55> the oldies are the best

10:52 <Romulus> <> (at

10:53 <mac_55> updating now :)

10:53 <zombie67> kk said:  As I understand it, mainly the platform identification, the standard boinc client releases as of yet do not identify the PS3, but the change GDF is making here will be incorporated into future official releases. At that time that should allow all projects to have PS3 applications and make it easier for users to use their PS3 to run more than 1 project.

10:54 <sethy> mac_55: in soviet russia, the soviet jokes @ lol

10:54 <sethy> :D

10:54 * sethy wlaks away

10:54 <sethy> WLAKS?

10:54 <sethy> TRY WALKS FOR A START!!

10:54 * sethy throws keyboard

10:54 <mac_55> doh

10:55 <PovAddict> zombie67: the official boinc_cmd would work

10:55 <PovAddict> but you need to compile it yourself

10:55 <zombie67> mac_55, also make sure that the PS3 has updated to the latest FW.

10:55 <PovAddict> the binary on the official package is for x86 CPUs, that will DEFINITELY not work ;)

10:57 <mac_55> yeah, I always check for that zombie67 :)

10:57 <mac_55> still no luck running run_boinc

10:57 <mac_55> :(

10:57 <mac_55> hrmm

10:57 <zombie67> More from the PS3GRID admin:  There is a fundamental difference between the Cell processor and a normal processor: The spes are not sharable nor are accounted in the boinc CPU time.

10:58 <PovAddict> and the benchmarks don't take account of the SPEs

10:59 <zombie67> so far, benchmarks are not a problem.  PS3GRID uses fixed credits, and yoyo counts (can't remember) instead of using time & benchmarks

11:01 <zombie67> an earlier post from the admin:  This platform will be soon inserted into the main BOINC client together with some changes that we have introduced in the code to take into account the fact that the Cell processors appears as two processors but in reality is one.

11:02 <zombie67> sorry mac_55, that is all I can suggest

11:02 <mac_55> no worries. Is there anywhere else I can get help? do people tend to respond on the forum?

11:03 <PovAddict> try

11:06 <mac_55> looks like the last post was 9 days ago, but I'll post anyway

11:15 <zombie67> yes, KK and the admins are responsive on the PS3GRID forums

11:15 <mac_55> :)

11:15 <zombie67> there haven't been any questions or problems in the past 9 days.   ;)

11:15 <mac_55> i see

11:16 <mac_55> how many people running the client on the ps3?

11:16 <mac_55> it's quite an exciting project :)

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11:16 <zombie67> 83 active hosts

11:17 <zombie67>

11:17 <Romulus> <> (at

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11:20 <zombie67> if you can't every get BOINC running for whatever reason, consider running folding@home.

11:20 <mac_55> yeah, I've been running that for a while

11:21 <mac_55> I guess I'd like to do a bit of a range of projects

11:21 <zombie67> me too.  right now mine is 50/50 with ps3grid and yoyo

11:23 <mac_55> I'm just a fraxtion confused though...

11:23 <mac_55> what does the ps3grid project do?

11:23 <mac_55> fraction*

11:24 * PovAddict lunch ->

11:25 <freelarry> enjoy - munch munch

11:25 <zombie67> "full-atom molecular dynamics simulations and other scientific applications specially optimized for the Cell processor"

11:25 * freelarry waits impatiently for isp to show up here for cable line move

11:26 <mac_55> can you run other projects on the ps3 client then?

11:26 <zombie67> only those projects that have an application for the PS3

11:27 <zombie67> right now, only PS3GRID and yoyo

11:27 <mac_55> aah cool

11:27 <Romulus> CONTACT is the Compact Automated Transfer System used for web site countdown ahead of America there

11:29 <zombie67> gotta run

11:29 <zombie67> c ya

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15:02 <MTughan> 'lo all

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15:03 <MTughan> Oh, this is funny... Saw today on CNET that a patent for an anti-gravity machine was filed about two years ago.

15:04 <MTughan> It apparently defies all laws of physics, *surprisingly enough*.

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15:08 <MTughan> :o

15:08 <Romulus> Title: Defendant mocks Web illiterate juror in RIAA case | Tech news blog - CNET (at

15:09 <MTughan> One of the jurors on that case had never been on the Internet...

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15:17 <tassimo> heyho. are 188pts since 4th october for a 733mhz with 128mb ram a gut result?

15:17 <yoyo[RKN]> hi

15:17 <Romulus> Title: Tassimo (at

15:17 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: wtf URL

15:18 <PovAddict> what strange IRC client feature did you just touch? lol

15:18 <PovAddict> tassimo: seems good, what project(s) are you running?

15:18 <tassimo> semi

15:18 <tassimo> seti!!

15:18 <yoyo[RKN]> ;)

15:18 <PovAddict> 'semi' is what ETs run to find us

15:19 <PovAddict> Search for Extra-Martian Intelligence

15:19 <mac_55> o/ hey

15:19 <MTughan> I'm gone for a few second to get my binder, and everyone seems to arrive at one... 'lo all.

15:21 <tassimo> mmmh, how can i get more points?

15:21 <PovAddict> buying more computers

15:21 <PovAddict> lol

15:22 <yoyo[RKN]> bying a PS3

15:22 <yoyo[RKN]> +u

15:22 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: SETI isn't optimized for PS3 yet...

15:22 <PovAddict> note the 'yet'

15:22 <yoyo[RKN]> but primgrid, FAH and yoyo

15:23 <yoyo[RKN]> s/primegrid/ps3grid

15:23 * yoyo[RKN] should go sleeping

15:23 <MTughan> And you missed a closing slash. ;)

15:23 <MTughan> s/primegrid/ps3grid/ is the valid Perl.

15:24 <yoyo[RKN]> ;)

15:29 <mac_55> I'm still trying to get my ps3 client running still :)

15:29 <MTughan> You'll have to give up some benchmarks when you do get it running.

15:30 <PovAddict> ask zombie67 when he comes, he has it running

15:30 <MTughan> Cool...

15:30 <yoyo[RKN]> in my project a PS3 gets round about 120 credits/h

15:31 <MTughan> An hour?!

15:31 <yoyo[RKN]> yes

15:31 <MTughan> I think my 2.0GHz CD averages about 500 credits/day...

15:32 <yoyo[RKN]> in which project

15:32 <MTughan> Mostly E@H, ABC, and WCG.

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15:33 <MTughan> But I'm also running S@H, and a member of BURP (although they don't have a Mac version).

15:33 <mac_55> zombie67 was helping me earlier, but I've posted on the official forums

15:33 <mac_55> so hopefully I'll find a fix soon

15:33 <c0dewarrior> MTughan: core duo here does around 1260/day

15:34 <MTughan> Hmm... Oh, how long is it running for though? I lose about 8-9 hours because of school.

15:34 <c0dewarrior> that one runs 24/7

15:34 <MTughan> That explains the difference.

15:34 <yoyo[RKN]> core duo gets 48 credits/h in my project

15:35 <MTughan> Okay, that seems about par with mine.

15:35 <mac_55> what's your project yoyo?

15:35 <yoyo[RKN]> I compared 3 systems:

15:35 <yoyo[RKN]> 3.2 GHz PS3 etwa 110 credits/h

15:35 <yoyo[RKN]> 3.0 GHz Duo etwa 2*24= 48 credits/h

15:35 <yoyo[RKN]> 2.4 GHz Quad etwa 4*33= 132 credits/h

15:35 <c0dewarrior> ah, there ya go

15:36 <yoyo[RKN]> mac_55 :

15:36 <MTughan> That's why it seemed slightly faster too. Mine's only 2GHz.

15:36 <Romulus> Title: yoyo@home (at

15:36 <quail> morning all

15:36 <MTughan> Mornin'.

15:37 <c0dewarrior> yoyo[RKN]: nice stats

15:37 <yoyo[RKN]> which you mean?

15:37 <MTughan> I'll need to get a really nice machine when I replace my P4...

15:37 <mac_55> what's the wrapper for the client do then? what makes it different?

15:38 <MTughan> You mean the actual BOINC program?

15:38 <mac_55> for yoyo

15:38 <c0dewarrior> yoyo[RKN]: the 3 systems....

15:38 <PovAddict> yoyo@home uses a wrapper to "connect" boinc with the cruncher app (many projects do that)

15:38 <yoyo[RKN]> it catches all boinc users which do not want to install a different dc prog

15:38 <mac_55> oh i see

15:38 <mac_55> gotcha

15:39 <mac_55> so basically it's like doing a work unit, but just using boinc

15:39 <MTughan> Do you have Mac apps?

15:39 <yoyo[RKN]> yes, yes

15:39 <MTughan> yoyo@home...

15:39 <MTughan> Okay.

15:39 <PovAddict>

15:39 <Romulus> Title: Applications (at

15:40 <MTughan> Thanks, PovAddict.

15:40 <yoyo[RKN]> hmm, PovAddict was faster

15:40 <MTughan> Those WUs seem considerably faster than others. 35h is the estimated right now.

15:41 <MTughan> s/faster/longer/

15:41 <MTughan> How do you mix those two up?

15:41 <yoyo[RKN]> Free BSD version seems to be buggy

15:41 <yoyo[RKN]> frankly spoken no prediction is possible, so all WUs set to 35h

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15:42 <MTughan> Ah, okay.

15:42 <c0dewarrior> so the real question is

15:42 <yoyo[RKN]> answer is 42

15:42 <yoyo[RKN]> ;)

15:43 <c0dewarrior> do we all go out and buy PS3's to run boinc!

15:43 <c0dewarrior> THat is the question!

15:43 <MTughan> The real question is whether it'll do anything... Seems to be stuck on waiting.

15:43 <MTughan> The WU is marked as Running, but no status coming...

15:44 <yoyo[RKN]> the WU contains 8 ogr wu. after the first finished the progress bar is set ti 12.5%

15:44 <MTughan> Oh, I see. So no incremental progress like other projects.

15:45 <MTughan> Okay, it is using CPU... But E@H isn't...

15:45 <MTughan> Okay, S@H is working fine. So I'm part of yoyo@home now.

15:46 <yoyo[RKN]> ;)

15:46 <MTughan> Now PovAddict wants me to join TFFE...

15:46 <PovAddict> me?

15:47 <PovAddict> nah

15:47 <PovAddict> most people in this channel :P

15:47 <MTughan> lol, you know you want it.

15:47 <MTughan> AH! I'm surround by a bunch of freaks? :P

15:47 <PovAddict> yesh

15:47 <MTughan> surrounded*

15:48 <yoyo[RKN]> PovAddict : I'm using the management web interface yoyo_ops. There I query the result table. The query is always done with ...and mod_time > 20071009214549. But there was no index on mod_time?

15:48 <c0dewarrior> how're you calling freak!

15:48 <MTughan> lol

15:48 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: you better not be asking me about database *performance* stuff

15:48 <xcamel> re-hi

15:49 <Romulus> new high oc on the evils of the money they made it on ##c

15:49 <MTughan> ##c?

15:49 <MTughan> An unofficial C channel...

15:49 * MTughan shakes his head

15:50 <c0dewarrior> better than ##sea with the same subject..

15:50 <MTughan> O_O

15:51 <c0dewarrior> ^_^

15:51 <yoyo[RKN]> is that reliable thing done by default or have I to configure it in config.xml

15:52 <PovAddict> maybe the default config.xml has it

15:53 <yoyo[RKN]> nothing reliable* in my config

15:53 * freelarry thinks yoyo[RKN] should join tffe - seems a likely candidate for Nurse Rachet

15:54 * c0dewarrior remembers a game called freelarry

15:54 <freelarry> there was?

15:55 * freelarry barely remembers LiesureSuit but never played it

15:55 <yoyo[RKN]> what is tffe?

15:55 <PovAddict> The Final Front Ear

15:56 <freelarry> The Final Front Ear

15:56 <freelarry> PovAddict is faster again

15:56 <PovAddict> not frontier - front ear

15:56 <freelarry> ;)

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16:00 <freelarry> is this the one you thinking of c0dewarrior

16:00 <Romulus> <> (at

16:01 <c0dewarrior> dunno, memory's denying me the privilege of remembering

16:01 <MTughan> lol

16:01 <freelarry> lol mem.... what

16:02 <MTughan> That's what a memory is for.

16:02 <MTughan> Remembering.

16:02 <PovAddict> when it works

16:02 <freelarry> rem...huh whats that

16:02 <MTughan> When it works, so true.

16:02 <MTughan> Is yours going to, freelarry?

16:02 <MTughan> too*

16:03 * freelarry has to have some first for it to go

16:03 <MTughan> lol

16:04 <c0dewarrior> See, the lack of memory is a recursive problem

16:04 <freelarry> no memory no problem

16:04 <MTughan> So how do you remember how to talk? Or do you?

16:04 <PovAddict> "how many things do you forget per day?" "I can't remember"

16:06 <c0dewarrior> so how do you forget to remember to forget...

16:06 <MTughan> And so on?

16:06 <c0dewarrior> I would assume so

16:06 <MTughan> You forget now? :P

16:07 <freelarry> talk?

16:08 <freelarry> day?

16:08 <MTughan> "Who needs to talk"?

16:08 <freelarry> type?

16:08 <MTughan> You're typing now... >_>

16:08 <freelarry> breath?

16:08 <freelarry> i am that's news

16:08 <PovAddict> too many things to remember

16:08 <freelarry> lol

16:08 <MTughan> Breathe... Now that's a hard one to forget.

16:09 <MTughan> Are you dead yet?

16:09 <c0dewarrior> who said you need to remember that

16:09 <freelarry> at last 50yr gone

16:09 <c0dewarrior> I forget about breathing all the time, especially when I remember something

16:09 <freelarry> at least thats what the birth record said - certificate of death

16:10 <freelarry> line out and birth wrote over top

16:10 <MTughan> Gah... I'm stuck with a bunch of TFFE members with failing memories, or no memories at all...

16:10 <freelarry> lol

16:10 <c0dewarrior> nobody knows

16:10 <MTughan> Is this what hell feels like?

16:10 <MTughan> :P

16:10 <c0dewarrior> No, hell would be when you remember that you forgot to remember this is hell

16:11 <c0dewarrior> or something like that

16:11 <MTughan> lol

16:11 <freelarry> nope its nicer - mesti bade me leave for driving him insane

16:11 * PovAddict splodes

16:11 <c0dewarrior> if we keep this up, my brain is going to explode (which I might not remember)

16:11 <freelarry> rofl

16:11 <MTughan> And I though this was sane at one point...

16:11 <freelarry> it is when i stay away

16:11 <MTughan> thought*

16:11 <c0dewarrior> ah, chaos theory.. now that's something worth remembering

16:11 <MTughan> Well, get outta here then.

16:11 * freelarry goes back to lurk mode

16:12 <yoyo[RKN]> is <reliable_min_avg_turnaround> in seconds

16:12 <MTughan> Probably...

16:12 <MTughan> PovAddict?

16:12 <PovAddict> I know it exists, I have never tweaked it myself

16:12 <MTughan> Little late...

16:13 <PovAddict> lol, nice thread

16:13 <PovAddict> "When will Vista not suck?"

16:13 <PovAddict> somebody replied "August 13th, 2008, at approximately 9:53PM."

16:13 <MTughan> lol

16:13 <PovAddict> "I heard Microsoft is rushing out its next version of Windows it hopes to release in about 2 years. So, something tells me Vista will be just another Windows ME."

16:13 <c0dewarrior> PovAddict: Will be??!

16:14 <c0dewarrior> PovAddict: You forgot?! It already is!

16:14 <MTughan> Well, even SP1 isn't looking great for it either. Maybe M$ tried to use the Ballmer Peak again...

16:14 <c0dewarrior> I think the ballmer peak owned them during their strategy sessions...

16:14 <freelarry> but went to 2.5 ppm

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16:14 <MTughan> I think he ripped out his Ethernet, it was too weird here...

16:14 <freelarry> or is that bac

16:15 <MTughan> BAC is in percent.

16:15 <PovAddict> his router committed suicide

16:15 <freelarry> hey i could use that cable

16:15 <MTughan> lol

16:15 <PovAddict> "On August 13th, 8:59PM, Vista becomes self aware, and calculates that the best way to prevent itself from becoming outdated, is to eliminate the possibility of another OS being designed."

16:15 <freelarry> then shoots self in foot

16:16 <freelarry> as violated drm on vista

16:16 <PovAddict> LOL

16:16 <c0dewarrior> lol!

16:16 <PovAddict> "I used to have my startup sound be Homer Simpson saying: 'So they have the Internet on computers now...' "

16:16 <Romulus> seems like a good read, and I still keep a good watchdog, for about 15 minutes from now

16:16 <c0dewarrior> Romulus you running on vista?

16:16 <Romulus> c0dewarrior: Error: You need to have PySQLite installed to use this plugin.  Download it at <>

16:17 * c0dewarrior shakes his head

16:17 <MTughan> Guess so...

16:17 <PovAddict>

16:17 <Romulus> <> (at

16:17 <c0dewarrior> lol

16:18 <MTughan> o_O

16:21 <MTughan> The best thing I can find for <reliable_min_avg_turnaround>: "Hosts for which expavg_credit/ncpus is at least reliable_min_avg_credit and whose average turnaround is at most reliable_max_avg_turnaround are considered 'reliable'."

16:21 <MTughan> Wait, that's _max_avg_turnaround...

16:22 <MTughan> Anyway, it's from

16:22 <Romulus> <> (at

16:24 <yoyo[RKN]> I set these reliable values which PovAddict proposed for production systems:

16:24 <Romulus> <> (at

16:24 <PovAddict> I proposed wut?

16:24 <freelarry> &coffee for all and time for chores bbl

16:24 <Romulus> Here's your quad expresso!! BANG! Need an ambulance in 10 minutes?

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16:26 <yoyo[RKN]> ah you fixed only some typos, David proposed it

16:26 <Romulus> <> (at

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16:59 <MTughan> ?

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17:16 <xcamel> yum... dinner smells good...

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17:37 <MTughan> Naming issues?

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17:39 <xcamel> must be...

17:40 <MTughan> Zygentoma__: Naming issues?

17:41 <Zygentoma__> nop

17:41 <Zygentoma__> im too lazy to identify

17:41 <MTughan> lol

17:41 <xcamel> too many connections...

17:42 <xcamel> seen that happen in the old days with a "nick thief" bot...

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17:48 <MTughan> RoaderCoder!

17:48 <CoderOnTheRoad> hello

17:49 <MTughan> Oh boy, that's getting to me...

17:49 * CoderOnTheRoad removes his propeller beanie cap and humbly bows

17:49 <MTughan> lol

17:49 <PovAddict> the hell?

17:49 <quail> morning Don, how are you mate?

17:49 <PovAddict> brb

17:49 <CoderOnTheRoad> there's just one?

17:49 <CoderOnTheRoad> hey quail

17:50 <CoderOnTheRoad> hey PovAddictbrb

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17:50 <MTughan> 'lo Doug

17:50 * quail installed this this morning >>>

17:50 <Romulus> <> (at

17:50 <wdsmia> *lo

17:51 * quail wish ubuntu not take it out there repo tho

17:51 <CoderOnTheRoad> hey Doug

17:51 <MTughan> Two things: Cool int'l clock, and sweet background.

17:51 * quail should have CoderOnTheRoad's home tz covered there

17:52 <PovAddict> bk

17:52 <wdsmia> *lo Don

17:52 <CoderOnTheRoad> heard Michael Dell speak today

17:52 <CoderOnTheRoad> he favors ubuntu

17:52 <CoderOnTheRoad> Also Steve Ballmer

17:52 <quail> MTughan: that wallpaper pic is a lightening storm over sydney harbour aus

17:52 <CoderOnTheRoad> he wants to crush Linux

17:52 <MTughan> Ubuntu probably has lower reqs than other distros... Typical M$.

17:53 <quail> Steve Ballmer = BIG tosser

17:53 <PovAddict> CoderOnTheRoad: "On August 13th 2008, 8:59PM, Vista becomes self aware, and calculates that the best way to prevent itself from becoming outdated, is to eliminate the possibility of another OS being designed."

17:53 <MTughan> We were saying earlier that Vista is another ME, and that M$ tried to hit the Ballmer Peak again.

17:54 <CoderOnTheRoad> hopefully you all can hold the fort here while I go get some dinner

17:54 <MTughan> Sure.

17:54 <CoderOnTheRoad> I'll bbiab

17:54 <PovAddict> MTughan: yeah, they didn't get the BAC in the right value

17:54 <MTughan> I think they got it too high.

17:54 <PovAddict> or even too low

17:54 <PovAddict> look at the graph

17:54 <MTughan> Yeah...

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17:55 <MTughan> Reminds me of a story my physics teacher told us. Apparently, in his undergrad year at univ, he participated in fish studies and had to operate on fish.

17:55 <MTughan> To put them to sleep, they'd basically put them in a big tub of clove oil and ethanol.

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17:56 <MTughan> The fish become drunk and basically flop over and sink to the bottom. Get them out fast, and operate. So he was elaborating that he got to see stoned fish. :D

17:56 <MTughan> Who knew that fish could become stoned?

18:00 <MTughan> bbiab

18:00 <MTughan> And I'm not going to get fish stoned.

18:01 <PovAddict> you're going to eat stoned fish?

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18:30 <quail>

18:30 <Romulus> <> (at

18:38 <MTughan> Man, the record companies seem to be getting greedier or something...

18:40 <PovAddict> MTughan: script running :) lots of 'here's

18:40 <MTughan> Wha?

18:41 <MTughan> What script are you talking about?

18:41 <PovAddict> the one to extract links from all boinc wiki pages

18:41 <MTughan> I don't remember that one, but okay.

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18:47 <CoderOnTheRoad> back

18:47 <MTughan> 'lo roadercoder/CoderOnTheRoad

18:48 * CoderOnTheRoad whips off his wizard hat and bows again

18:48 <MTughan> And evening to you to.

18:49 <quail> wb CoderOnTheRoad

18:50 <CoderOnTheRoad> thx Dale

18:50 <xcamel>

18:50 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2007 October 10 - The Strange Trailing Side of Saturn's Iapetus (at

18:51 <quail> hiya Jay

18:51 <CoderOnTheRoad> watching TV - guys assembling file cabinets - they have the worst looking fingers I've ever seen =)

18:52 <quail> lol

18:53 <CoderOnTheRoad> I guess where metal meets meat - metal wins

18:53 <xcamel> hiya Q, and Don

18:54 <MTughan> 'lo all

18:54 <wdsmia> *lo Jay

18:54 <CoderOnTheRoad> hello Jay

18:54 * CoderOnTheRoad gets poked in the ribs

18:54 <CoderOnTheRoad> OK, Mickey says Hi also

18:55 <MTughan> lol

18:55 <MTughan> I say screw Disney.

18:55 <CoderOnTheRoad> I wonder where he's buried

18:55 <MTughan> Walt?

18:55 <CoderOnTheRoad> California?

18:55 <MTughan> Maybe...

18:56 <CoderOnTheRoad> Yeah, Disney

18:56 <MTughan> I had meant the company, not the man.

18:56 <CoderOnTheRoad> Probably at Disney land

18:56 <CoderOnTheRoad> ah

18:56 <MTughan> ...and his ashes reside at the Forest Lawn Memorial Park in Glendale, California.

18:56 <MTughan>

18:56 <Romulus> <> (at

18:57 <CoderOnTheRoad> well, that answers it

18:57 <CoderOnTheRoad> where were we before Google

18:57 <xcamel> I think his head is still on ice...

18:57 <PovAddict> "Disney on Ice"

18:58 <MTughan> I went right to Wikipedia, not Google.

18:58 <CoderOnTheRoad> you da man

18:58 <MTughan> "where were we before the Internet" would be better.

18:58 <Romulus> I was thinking this morning view after the big old worm today?

18:58 <MTughan> o_O

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18:59 <MTughan> 'lo e

18:59 <efc> hey

18:59 <CoderOnTheRoad> hey efc

19:00 <CoderOnTheRoad> Disney, ashes, worms - the only path is up from here

19:01 <MTughan> True... Wait, TFFE wasn't low enough? :P

19:01 <CoderOnTheRoad> going to call the Missus - brb

19:03 * wdsmia wanders if he can kick MTughan for slamming TFFE

19:03 <MTughan> What? I like much better. :D

19:03 <MTughan> And that's "wonders".

19:03 <wdsmia> darn someone moved the key :)

19:04 <xcamel> I already kicked him once...

19:04 <MTughan> No, you kicked my bot.

19:04 <xcamel> correction - I kicked his bot...

19:05 <xcamel> Oh, OK...

19:05 <MTughan> And you kicked PovAddict for swearing at VNC.

19:05 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o xcamel

19:05 * xcamel winds up...

19:05 <wdsmia> lol

19:05 <xcamel> and the pitch.....

19:05 <CoderOnTheRoad> duck

19:05 <xcamel> swingandamiss!

19:05 * PovAddict hides behind his subwoofer

19:06 <CoderOnTheRoad> no answer at the Coder castle

19:06 * xcamel grows evil channel master horns....

19:06 <MTughan> You have a large subwoofer then?

19:06 * xcamel grabs a pitchfork..

19:06 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o wdsmia

19:06 <MTughan> This is almost getting scary... The big boys are out.

19:06 <Romulus> HIDE!!

19:06 <wdsmia> now we can get two at a time

19:06 <MTughan> Wha?

19:07 <MTughan> Rommie, that was perfect timing... Or did one of you do that?

19:07 <xcamel> forund your key, eh?

19:07 * xcamel sticks a pin in his balloon...

19:07 *** xcamel sets mode: -o xcamel

19:07 <MTughan> I really seem to be controversial here, don't I?

19:08 <xcamel> naaaaah....

19:08 <MTughan> Except with TFFE?

19:09 <wdsmia> thats 2 keep it up ROFL

19:09 <MTughan> Hey, I didn't slam *name removed* there.

19:10 <Romulus> Take a chill there, Boss.

19:10 <MTughan> wdsmia: Why are you still op?

19:10 <MTughan> Still planning to kick me?

19:10 <wdsmia> :)

19:10 <MTughan> Oh, not an evil grin...

19:10 <xcamel> still got my finger on the ball...

19:11 <CoderOnTheRoad> too much excitement - I need to go get some ice

19:11 <CoderOnTheRoad> brb

19:11 *** wdsmia sets mode: -o wdsmia

19:12 <MTughan> Oh, yoyo@home WU's done one part...

19:12 <wdsmia> should have kicked pov before I de-oped

19:13 <MTughan> Hmm... yoyo[RKN] never came back...

19:13 <xcamel> lol

19:13 <wdsmia> j/k pov

19:14 <MTughan> I think he's not here right now anyway... PovAddict, still behind the subwoofer?

19:14 <PovAddict> lolwut

19:14 <CoderOnTheRoad> there - back in the room for the evening

19:15 <MTughan> And action's over.

19:15 <CoderOnTheRoad> I can remove my cumberbund and spats

19:27 <mac_55> hrm. I'm having problems with primegrid

19:27 <mac_55> communication keeps being deffered

19:27 <PovAddict> so?

19:27 <PovAddict> it won't communicate every second...

19:27 <mac_55> just wondering what the cause is :)

19:28 <PovAddict> Messages tab

19:28 <mac_55> ah yes

19:28 <mac_55> thanks

19:28 <mac_55> looks like it's windows only

19:29 <MTughan> "No work sent (There was work for other platforms)"?

19:29 <MTughan> Something like that anyway...

19:29 <mac_55> yup

19:30 <mac_55> one more question...

19:31 <mac_55> yoyo@home seems to be running but the percentage isn't updating, and there's nothing displayed on cpu time

19:31 <PovAddict> it will update when it reaches 12% or so

19:31 <MTughan> Ah, yes. It's because it's actually made up of smaller WUs, which are running. 8 in all.

19:31 <mac_55> okay cool

19:31 <PovAddict> and only updates when one of the "subparts" finish

19:31 <MTughan> So every 12.5%.

19:32 <mac_55> nice

19:32 <mac_55> makes sense

19:32 <MTughan> I had same question earlier today, that's why.

19:33 <mac_55> thanks for the help guys :)

19:33 <MTughan> Any time.

19:34 <MTughan> Hmm... Should that be "Anytime" or "Any time"?

19:34 <mac_55> I like the maths projects :) at least you can see a bit of overall progress with them

19:39 <MTughan> Good news for Apple.

19:39 <Romulus> <> (at

19:39 <MTughan> "If you can, buy Apple stock" says the person interviewed.

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19:41 <MTughan> 'lo zombie

19:41 <mac_55> hey zombie67

19:41 <zombie67> hello

19:41 <CoderOnTheRoad> yeah, Ballmer was a bit Zune-challenged today

19:41 <CoderOnTheRoad> but he was grinning over halo

19:42 <PovAddict> there we go

19:42 <PovAddict>

19:42 <Romulus> Title: List of links in Trac wiki (at

19:42 <PovAddict> time to get rid of 'click here' links now

19:42 <MTughan> He saw Michael Dell and Ballmer today.

19:42 <MTughan> CoderOnTheRoad, that is.

19:42 <MTughan> Or his nickname, roadercoder.

19:42 <PovAddict> nice wallpaper

19:42 <Romulus> <> (at

19:43 <MTughan> Wow... That is nice.

19:43 <MTughan> Hey, he uses Colloquy.

19:43 <mac_55> woah

19:44 <mac_55> I so want that wallpaper

19:44 <PovAddict> mac_55: he gives a link to it

19:44 <mac_55> mmm

19:44 <mac_55> cool

19:44 <mac_55> thanks

19:44 <MTughan> Yeah, there it is.

19:45 <CoderOnTheRoad> nice

19:45 <CoderOnTheRoad> here's Stephen's page

19:45 <Romulus> Title: Verrier on deviantART (at

19:46 <mac_55> out of intrest, how long does a yoyo unit take to complete?

19:46 <MTughan> Depends on the machine and the WUs inside.

19:46 <MTughan> My first took 1h20m.

19:46 <MTughan> But it hasn't gotten the second one done yet, and that's been running for almost 2h30m now...

19:50 <mac_55> cool

19:50 <mac_55> I'm running on a core 2 duo macbook pro :)

19:50 <MTughan> Speed?

19:50 <MTughan> This is a 2.0GHz CD MacBook 1st gen.

19:51 <mac_55> 2.33GHz

19:51 <MTughan> So yours shouldn't take as long as mine did...

19:51 <MTughan> Depending on the size of the internal WU.

19:51 <mac_55> in theory :) but I have other apps running

19:51 <MTughan> Well, as long as there are no video renders or games going, you should still be fast.

19:52 <MTughan> Even I pause BOINC for video renders.

19:53 <MTughan> Dock crashed...

19:54 <PovAddict> "Opinions are like buttocks, everyone has them."

19:55 <MTughan> What about torsos?

19:55 <PovAddict> "And like buttocks everywhere, most of them are full of it."

19:55 <MTughan> Okay, that one confuses me...

20:01 * CoderOnTheRoad sits and blinks

20:01 <MTughan> Don't we all?

20:01 <MTughan> :P

20:01 <MTughan> Whoa... Email from CNET (I get the newsletter). Subject: "Are Bluetooth headsets cool or dorky?"

20:03 * CoderOnTheRoad punches a hanging chad for dorky

20:03 <CoderOnTheRoad> plenty of examples here

20:04 <MTughan> WTF?

20:04 <CoderOnTheRoad> Where's The Food?

20:04 <CoderOnTheRoad> What's This Fuzz?

20:05 <CoderOnTheRoad> Wheels Turn Freely?

20:05 <MTughan> What the F***? What's a hanging chad?

20:05 <CoderOnTheRoad> Don't be so Canadian

20:05 <PovAddict> lol

20:05 <MTughan> I don't get it...

20:05 <PovAddict> "we think fast"??

20:05 <PovAddict> &cyborg wtf

20:05 <Romulus> PovAddict: W.T.F.: Worker Trained for Fighting

20:05 <PovAddict> yeah or that

20:05 <CoderOnTheRoad>

20:06 <Romulus> Title: Chad (paper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

20:06 <MTughan> &cyborg wtf

20:06 <Romulus> MTughan: W.T.F.: Worker Trained for Fighting

20:06 <MTughan> Okay, it's always the same.

20:06 <PovAddict> &acronym

20:06 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: You need to have PySQLite installed to use this plugin.  Download it at <>

20:06 <MTughan> &cyborg

20:06 <Romulus> MTughan: M.T.U.G.H.A.N.: Mechanical Transforming Unit Generated for Hazardous Assassination and Nullification

20:06 <PovAddict> wow, defaults to nickname... didn't know that

20:07 <MTughan> &cyborg MTughan1

20:07 <Romulus> MTughan: M.T.U.G.H.A.N.: Mechanical Transforming Unit Generated for Hazardous Assassination and Nullification

20:07 <CoderOnTheRoad> &cyborg

20:07 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: Names can't have more than 10 letters. Please enter another name.

20:07 <MTughan> Oh, strips numbers...

20:07 <MTughan> &cyborg roadercoder

20:07 <Romulus> MTughan: Names can't have more than 10 letters. Please enter another name.

20:07 <MTughan> Nuts...

20:07 <MTughan> &cyborg roadercode

20:07 <CoderOnTheRoad> lol

20:07 <Romulus> MTughan: R.O.A.D.E.R.C.O.D.E.: Robotic Operational Android Designed for Efficient Repair, Ceaseless Observation and Dangerous Exploration

20:07 <MTughan> :D

20:07 <CoderOnTheRoad> perfect

20:08 <PovAddict> &cyborg roadcoder

20:08 <Romulus> PovAddict: R.O.A.D.C.O.D.E.R.: Robotic Operational Android Designed for Calculation, Online Destruction and Efficient Repair

20:08 <CoderOnTheRoad> &cyborg Windows

20:08 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: W.I.N.D.O.W.S.: Wireless Intelligent Neohuman Designed for Online Warfare and Sabotage

20:08 <MTughan> Uh uh...

20:08 <PovAddict> Intelligent?? wtf

20:08 <MTughan> &cyborg Microsoft

20:08 <Romulus> MTughan: M.I.C.R.O.S.O.F.T.: Mechanical Intelligent Construct Responsible for Online Sabotage, Observation and Forbidden Troubleshooting

20:08 <MTughan> More intelligence...

20:08 <PovAddict> Responsible for Online Sabotage XD

20:09 <MTughan> lol

20:09 <CoderOnTheRoad> &cyborg mucrosoft

20:09 <MTughan> Are we sure this wasn't made by M$?

20:09 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: M.U.C.R.O.S.O.F.T.: Mechanical Upgraded Construct Responsible for Online Sabotage, Observation and Forbidden Troubleshooting

20:09 <MTughan> There we go.

20:09 <PovAddict> &cyborg muckrosoft

20:09 <Romulus> PovAddict: M.U.C.K.R.O.S.O.F.T.: Mechanical Upgraded Construct Keen on Rational Observation, Scientific Obliteration and Forbidden Troubleshooting

20:09 <CoderOnTheRoad> Takes 3 versions before its usable

20:09 <MTughan> We're just looking for more things to cyborg...

20:10 <MTughan> &cyborg Romulus

20:10 <Romulus> MTughan: R.O.M.U.L.U.S.: Robotic Operational Machine Used for Logical Utility and Sabotage

20:10 <MTughan> It seems to like sabotage...

20:10 <PovAddict> &cyborg sssss

20:10 <Romulus> PovAddict: S.S.S.S.S.: Synthetic Simulated Scientific Sabotage Soldier

20:10 <MTughan> Haha!

20:10 <PovAddict> &cyborg ssssssssss

20:10 <Romulus> PovAddict: S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.: Synthetic Simulated Soldier Skilled in Scientific Sabotage, Systematic Surveillance and Sensible Simulation

20:10 <MTughan> &cyborg xxxxxxxxxxx

20:10 <Romulus> MTughan: Names can't have more than 10 letters. Please enter another name.

20:10 <MTughan> &cyborg xxxxxxxxx

20:11 <Romulus> MTughan: X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.: Xperimental Xtraterrestrial Xenomorph Xperienced in Xpert Xenocide, Xecution and Xtreme Xcavation

20:11 <PovAddict> I say that's cheating

20:11 <MTughan> It's still fun.

20:11 <PovAddict> but lets try harder consonant sequences

20:11 <MTughan> &cyborg kkkkkkkkkk

20:11 <Romulus> MTughan: K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.: Kinetic Knowledgable Knight Keen on Kamikaze Killing, Kingly Kindness and Knavish Kissing

20:11 <PovAddict> &cyborg hkhkkkhhkh

20:11 <Romulus> PovAddict: H.K.H.K.K.K.H.H.K.H.: Handcrafted Kinetic Humanoid Keen on Kamikaze Killing, Hazardous Harm and Kingly Hunting

20:11 <MTughan> Hehe...

20:12 <MTughan> &cyborg abcdefghij

20:12 <Romulus> MTughan: A.B.C.D.E.F.G.H.I.J.: Artificial Biomechanical Construct Designed for Efficient Fighting, Galactic Harm and Immediate Judo

20:12 <PovAddict> &cyborg zzzzzzzzzz

20:12 <Romulus> PovAddict: Z.Z.Z.Z.Z.Z.Z.Z.Z.Z.: Zeta Zircon Zombie Zoned for Zealous Zoology, Zesty Zapping and Zippy Zymurgy

20:12 <MTughan> Immediate judo? lol

20:12 <PovAddict> it could have said "sleeping robot" lol

20:12 <MTughan> This is way too much fun...

20:12 <PovAddict> Zippy Zymurgy o_O

20:12 <MTughan> &cyborg pppppppppp

20:12 <Romulus> MTughan: P.P.P.P.P.P.P.P.P.P.: Positronic Patented Person Programmed for Potential Peacekeeping, Productive Patrolling and Practical Processing

20:13 <MTughan> Peacekeeping? Bah.

20:13 <PovAddict> &insult

20:13 <Romulus> You are nothing but a foul petrification of puny bait.

20:13 <MTughan> Hehe... The SlapperBot was useful.

20:13 <PovAddict> &insult

20:13 <Romulus> You are nothing but a left-over mass of fobbing retch.

20:13 <MTughan> xcamel: Can I bring one more bot on for a few demonstrations?

20:13 * PovAddict hides

20:14 * CoderOnTheRoad runs away

20:14 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o wdsmia

20:14 <MTughan> Hey, at least I'm asking first. Last time I just brought it on without asking.

20:14 <CoderOnTheRoad> off for the evening before the bloodletting begins

20:14 <PovAddict> bye

20:14 <CoderOnTheRoad> iiieeeeeeeeeeeeeee

20:14 <CoderOnTheRoad> bye!

20:14 <MTughan> Wha?

20:14 *** CoderOnTheRoad has quit IRC

20:14 <MTughan> Okay...

20:15 <PovAddict> erm... brb

20:15 * PovAddict runs away leaving MTughan with wdsmia's op claws

20:15 <MTughan> It doesn't take that long to type /kick something...

20:16 <PovAddict> ah but he doesn't want to kill you

20:16 <MTughan> Ban?

20:16 <wdsmia> yes I do lol

20:16 <PovAddict> he wants to make you suffer, painfully and slowly

20:16 <PovAddict> ph34r

20:16 <Romulus> has gone to sleep at that core 2 duo now

20:16 <PovAddict> (o.o)

20:17 <MTughan> That looks like an owl...

20:17 <MTughan> So... Is anything happening?

20:18 <PovAddict> {o,o}

20:18 <PovAddict> |)__)

20:18 <PovAddict> -"-"-

20:18 <PovAddict> O RLY?

20:19 <MTughan> Should I say it's eerily silent?

20:19 <MTughan> lol

20:19 * wdsmia is cooking dinner

20:19 <MTughan> And...

20:21 <MTughan> Eerie silence again...

20:21 <quail> B00

20:21 <MTughan> 'lo quail

20:21 <quail> hi MTughan

20:21 <MTughan> I'm not sure, but I think wdsmia is really close to kicking me.

20:22 <quail> hehe

20:22 <wdsmia> no not you.... maybe pov lol

20:22 <PovAddict> why me

20:22 <MTughan> We don't like him, do we?

20:22 <PovAddict> the owl?

20:23 <MTughan> Hmm... Have I ever kicked you on ##konfabulator? I don't think so...

20:23 <MTughan> I don't think I've kicked anyone.

20:24 <MTughan> Not like it's anarchy in there.

20:25 <MTughan> Hmm... That beach background we saw a little while back. It's nice, but it's too bright for my theme.

20:26 * quail whispers in wdsmia's ear "kick'em all" ;-)

20:27 <MTughan> You can do that through ChanServ.

20:27 <MTughan> /msg ChanServ CLEAR #boinc USERS

20:28 <MTughan> I don't know why you would though.

20:28 <PovAddict> eek

20:28 <PovAddict> dont give him ideas

20:28 <MTughan> ChanServ isn't exactly limited. He could find out for himself easy.

20:29 * quail whispers in wdsmia's ear "kick PovAddict, he scared" ;-)

20:29 <MTughan> Hehe...

20:32 <wdsmia> &roulette

20:32 <MTughan> I see that space...

20:32 <PovAddict> &roulette

20:32 <Romulus> PovAddict: *click*

20:32 <wdsmia> &roulette

20:32 <Romulus> wdsmia: *click*

20:32 <MTughan> &roulette

20:32 <Romulus> MTughan: *click*

20:33 <PovAddict> &roulette

20:33 <Romulus> PovAddict: *click*

20:33 <wdsmia> &roulette

20:33 <Romulus> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!

20:33 * Romulus reloads and spins the chambers.

20:33 <MTughan> &roulette

20:33 <Romulus> MTughan: *click*

20:33 <PovAddict> &roulette

20:33 <Romulus> PovAddict: *click*

20:33 <Romulus> and we're going to sleep now, and appointment is at 9 minute hold

20:33 <MTughan> Hey, that's not Russian Roulette!

20:34 <PovAddict> &help roulette

20:34 <Romulus> PovAddict: (roulette [spin]) -- Fires the revolver. If the bullet was in the chamber, you're dead. Tell me to spin the chambers and I will.

20:34 <quail> &roulette

20:34 <Romulus> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!

20:34 * Romulus reloads and spins the chambers.

20:34 <MTughan> wdsmia?

20:35 <quail> well on that note i have to go to the shops

20:35 <quail> ttyl all

20:35 <MTughan> Bye.

20:35 * wdsmia is not here please leave a message at the tone

20:36 <MTughan>

20:36 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - .:: George Costanza's Answering Machine ::. (at

20:36 *** wdsmia sets mode: -o wdsmia

20:42 <wdsmia> &coffee

20:42 <Romulus> Here's your quad expresso!! BANG! Need an ambulance in 10 minutes?

20:43 <MTughan> Bah. Who needs coffee?

20:47 <MTughan> What happened to &roulette?

20:50 <wdsmia> everyone's dead

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20:59 <mac_55> night all

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21:05 <wdsmia> yum Haagen-dazs

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21:10 <xcamel> back for a bit

21:11 <wdsmia> wb

21:11 <xcamel> &roulette

21:11 <Romulus> xcamel: *click*

21:11 <xcamel> just hit the easy button

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21:15 <Soul_keeper>

21:15 <Romulus> <> (at

21:16 <Soul_keeper> hmmm intel systems use 20% less power when equipped with ddr3

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21:27 <MTugha1> Having more fun with Compiz...

21:27 *** MTugha1 is now known as MTughan_

21:34 * wdsmia had a video card laying around here somewhere

21:39 <quail> b

21:48 <MTughan_> 'lo quail, even though it's late

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21:51 <MTugha1> So MTughan_ did quit...

21:51 *** MTugha1 is now known as MTughan_

21:51 <MTughan_> I crashed the X server.

21:56 <xcamel> nytol...

21:56 * xcamel is away: Gone away for now.

21:56 *** xcamel is now known as xcamel_away

22:00 * quail back with toasted ham, tomatoe and cheese sandwiches

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22:04 <MTughan_> Ooo... Sounds nice.

22:05 <quail> they are/were

22:05 <MTughan_> We'll see how well blender seems to do on a P4...

22:05 <MTughan_> They were. So I guess they're gone now?

22:06 *** idleone__ is now known as IdleOne

22:11 <freelarry> MTughan blender as in Burp project works well on all my P4's and AMD's - occasionally locks up under nix

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22:12 <PovAddict> freelarry: I think he meant like... how fast blender interface and real-time preview is, not just the renderer

22:12 <PovAddict>

22:12 <freelarry> my ldest p4

22:12 <Romulus> Title: Results for computer (at

22:12 <freelarry> ahh

22:13 <freelarry> then that would also need a factoring of video card and its drivers

22:14 <PovAddict> yep

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22:19 <freelarry> well guess i should go over and visit the boys place

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23:03 * PovAddict disappears

23:19 <Soul_keeper> [PLAYING] [00:42:051] Deep_Purple_-_Greatest_Hits_-_02_-_Smoke_On_The_Water

23:20 * MTughan is listening to Tonight by The O.C. Supertones from Supertones Strike Back

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23:50 <MTughan> 'lo BB

23:50 <BadBarbarian> howdy

23:50 <BadBarbarian> wasup

23:51 <MTughan> Not much. Although I am going to bed soon. I have to be waking up in 6 hours. >_>

23:51 <BadBarbarian> lol me too

23:51 <BadBarbarian> 9 hrs here

23:52 <MTughan> But I'm sure you have a different reason. You have work? I have to get up for a band I'm in.

23:52 <BadBarbarian> ahh

23:52 <BadBarbarian> what kind of music

23:52 <MTughan> Various types. I play trumpet.

23:52 <BadBarbarian> cool

23:53 <MTughan> It's not like a rock group, if that's what you were wondering. :P

23:53 <BadBarbarian> i play dobro

23:53 <MTughan> Dobro... Never heard of it...

23:54 * MTughan heads to Wikipedia...

23:54 <BadBarbarian> not a rock thing eather\

23:54 <MTughan> It's a type of guitar?

23:54 <BadBarbarian> yes

23:55 <MTughan> What kind of music do you play?

23:55 <BadBarbarian>

23:55 <Romulus> Title: Dobro - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

23:55 <MTughan> I'm looking at that now.

23:55 <BadBarbarian> jazz some contry

23:55 <MTughan> Cool.

23:55 <BadBarbarian> country

23:56 <BadBarbarian> you can play it like any guitar or in the lap with steel finger slide

23:57 <MTughan> I guess more used in country than jazz, the slide.

23:57 <BadBarbarian>

23:57 <Romulus> Title: Lap steel guitar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

23:58 <BadBarbarian> yes

23:58 <BadBarbarian> but you would be suprized

23:59 <BadBarbarian> works in jazz too works well with stadup bass

23:59 <BadBarbarian> standup

23:59 <MTughan> True. I could see that.

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