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00:01 <MTughan> Argh... FreeType doesn't work quite right... "/usr/local/include/ft2build.h:56:38: error: freetype/config/ftheader.h: No such file or directory"
00:01 <PovAddict> configure might have a --with-freetype=/path/to/it/
00:01 <MTughan> I've got to find it first. /usr/local/include/freetype doesn't exists.
00:02 <PovAddict> how did you get freetype?
00:02 <MTughan> Damn you... It's in /usr/local/include/freetype2/freetype/config...
00:03 <MTughan> From ft2build.h: "- Adding `/usr/local/include/freetype2' to your compilation include path will not be necessary anymore. " >_>
00:05 <MTughan> Ah, forget. I'll just make a softlink.
00:05 <MTughan> There we go.
00:06 <MTughan> All this work for BURP... I hope they appreciate it.
00:06 <PovAddict> they will if you describe in a complete way all the hoops you had to jump thru to get it working
00:07 <MTughan> True... Well, BOINC compiled fine. After BOINC was there, glue2 compiled fine. Blender's been the real pain.
00:07 <MTughan> Actually, not too much. Just check it out, patch it, install freetype, make a softlink...
00:08 <MTughan> Just figuring those steps out, that's been the hard part.
00:08 <MTughan> Hey, new CAD should be up...
00:08 <PovAddict> did you see how the last 10 comics start in I?
00:08 <PovAddict> the title I mean
00:08 <MTughan> No...
00:09 <MTughan> Nice...
00:09 <PovAddict> well it's actually all starting in In or Im
00:09 <MTughan> Better make that 11... "Imperiled."
00:09 <PovAddict> yep
00:10 <MTughan> Holy crap... 12 missing header files...
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00:20 <MTughan> Gah... PovAddict: Know any way to change include paths?
00:20 <PovAddict> -Ipath
00:21 <MTughan> Not in a switch. Permanently.
00:21 <PovAddict> configure script might have a way to add CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS
00:21 <PovAddict> include paths aren't in any permanent place
00:21 <MTughan> Gah... Well, I'll try compiling again.
00:23 <MTughan> Do you know if make can take a switch for GCC?
00:23 <PovAddict> all configure scripts autoconf have a way to set it...
00:24 <MTughan> This is blender. I don't think it came with a configure...
00:24 <PovAddict> oh
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00:25 <PovAddict> seems you're supposed to edit the .mk files :\
00:25 <PovAddict> patchset HOWTO has some notes for FreeBSD: Need to add CPPFLAGS += -I$(OPENGL_HEADERS) to nan_compile.mk
00:25 <PovAddict> so I guess that's where you add the switches
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00:27 <MTughan> Thanks, that was it. Do you know what CXXFLAGS are?
00:28 <MTughan> And I actually just had to add one path to include.
00:28 <PovAddict> one way to write "C++ Flags" when CPPFLAGS was used for "C PreProcessor Flags"
00:29 <MTughan> So that's three libraries and three hacks so far...
00:30 <MTughan> Just for Blender to compile.
00:30 <MTughan> Oh sh*t... And now it can't find SDL.
00:30 <PovAddict> I say ask in the forum now, since I don't see why you'd need SDL for the renderer
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00:38 <MTughan> Well, I thought I couldn't split...
00:41 <MTughan> Okay, SDL working. 'Nuther hack...
00:47 <MTughan> Hmm... Any idea what libintl.h is?
00:47 <PovAddict> international
00:47 <MTughan> Google doesn't seem to turn up too much...
00:47 <MTughan> I know it's with internationalization, but it's missing.
00:51 <MTughan> Gah... #include "libintl.h"
00:51 <MTughan> Nothing named libintl.h in the package...
00:51 <PovAddict> normal quotes? o.o
00:51 <PovAddict> try yet another hack: replace with <libintl.h>
00:51 <MTughan> Hehe... Even SDL was used with normal quotes. #include "SDL.h"
00:52 <MTughan> That's what my hacks were for that.
00:52 <MTughan> Still not found...
00:53 <MTughan> libintl.h is supposed to come with GCC?
00:54 <PovAddict> I doubt it, but it should be a fairly standard library imho
00:55 <MTughan> Well, it's not found... Google doesn't seem to turn up anything, but libintl.h isn't the library name...
00:55 <MTughan> libintl by itself turns up more valuable stuff...
00:55 <PovAddict> well yeah
00:56 <MTughan> Well, two Windows links. One for GnuWin32, and the other for Cygwin. Also seen some for Linux...
00:56 <PovAddict> ohh
00:56 <PovAddict> it's part of gettext
00:56 <MTughan> That's what I want. Thanks.
00:58 <MTughan> Okay, so 5 libraries now. At least 4 hacks (that I remember), although I think there's one missing... And that doesn't include fixing libintl location.
01:03 <MTughan> Gah, gettext is huge.
01:07 <MTughan> Ugh... Still more to do. I have to be up at 6AM tomorrow, and it's past 1AM now... I have to go. I'll figure it out tomorrow.
01:07 <MTughan> Anyway, thank you very much for all your help.
01:07 <PovAddict> np
01:07 <PovAddict> bye
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01:43 <zombie67> hmmm
01:43 <zombie67> lhc says 2 per machine per day?
01:43 <PovAddict> 2 per CPU per day
01:43 <zombie67> I think they are issuing more than that
01:46 <zombie67> 2 per cpu? are you sure?
01:46 <PovAddict> go to your host details page
01:47 <zombie67> i can't find the post where the "2" came from
01:47 <zombie67> ok , just a sec
01:48 <zombie67> gah, i think you're right
01:49 <zombie67> tank_master was in the bay area this week
01:50 <zombie67> I was able to unload 3 p4s and 1 p3. Just too expensive to run them vs. 8 core machines
01:50 <zombie67> he gets his power free at work
01:51 <zombie67> in that scenario, it makes sense for lots of slow machines
01:51 <zombie67> in mine, entry cost is less important than energy costs
01:52 <zombie67> brb
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01:59 <zombie67> Ah! I didn't read closely enough (again). Neasan said "As Alex has said it is just a temporary measure to keep some jobs up for new users, also the quota is per CPU not user or IP so people with more than one machine should get 2 on each. Sorry some of the jobs were short ones but AFAIK they are not all quick ones."
01:59 <PovAddict> retarded client isn't following the deferral
01:59 <PovAddict> retarded server is resetting timer on each request, succeeded or not
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02:00 <PovAddict> end result: your client retries waiting less than an hour, and request keep failing for a long while
02:00 <zombie67> i noticed that
02:00 <PovAddict> if it tried consistently every 30 minutes (which it shouldn't; client's fault), it will always fail, instead of succeeding one out of two (server's fault)
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02:04 <zombie67> I don't understand why they put upgrading the server so low on their to-do list
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02:27 <PovAddict> omfg 3:30 am
02:28 <PovAddict> I'm outta here
02:28 <PovAddict> oh btw zombie67: there may be a new non-cpu-intensive project involving lots of data downloading ;)
02:28 <PovAddict> (hopefully with some speed limit of course!)
02:28 <PovAddict> byE
02:29 <zombie67> i am in!
02:29 <zombie67> bye
02:34 <PovAddict> "XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve the problem, use more."
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05:44 <E-30> hey
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07:25 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140
07:25 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 39.4°F / 4.1°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 30.00in / 1015.8hPa | Conditions: Fog | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs in the mid 60s. Light and variable winds...becoming west 5 to 10 mph late this morning and afternoon.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 40s. Light northwest winds...becoming east after midnight.; Sunday - (1 more message)
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07:26 <CoderForLife> morning c0dewarrior
07:26 <CoderForLife> &more
07:26 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Partly sunny. Highs in the lower 70s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph.;
07:26 <c0dewarrior> afternoon
07:26 <CoderForLife> I am home again
07:27 <c0dewarrior> welcome back
07:28 <CoderForLife> thanks - it's VERY good to be home
07:28 <CoderForLife> I am no roadwarrior, c0dewarrior
07:29 <c0dewarrior> hehehehe
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08:08 <xcamel> 'lo
08:08 <CoderForLife> hello
08:10 <ELGono> moo
08:11 <ELGono> looks like i'll equal einstein and cpdn today
08:11 <ELGono> 722k cs each
08:11 <CoderForLife> hey ELGono
08:11 <xcamel> 'lo Don, ElG,
08:12 <CoderForLife> morning Jay - I'm home at last
08:12 <xcamel> back to reality...
08:12 <CoderForLife> yep - real life
08:13 <CoderForLife> I seem to have a LHC wu
08:13 <CoderForLife> ready to report
08:14 <CoderForLife> "reached daily quota if 2 results"
08:14 <CoderForLife> of*
08:17 <CoderForLife> bbiab
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08:20 <E-30> hey cfl
08:21 <E-30> &weather wiesbaden
08:21 <Romulus> E-30: Temperature: 67.5Â°F / 19.7Â°C | Humidity: 28% | Pressure: 30.36in / 1028.0hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 4.0mph / 6.4km/h | Updated: 2:00 PM CEST; Partly Cloudy. High:59 ° F. / 15 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:41 ° F. / 5 ° C.; Clear. High:62 ° F. / 17 ° C.; Clear. Low:42 ° F. / 6 ° C.; Clear. High:66 ° F. / 19 ° C.; Clear. Low:51 ° F. / 11 ° C.;
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08:25 <CoderForLife> back
08:26 <xcamel> 39F here...
08:26 <xcamel> frosty overnight
08:26 <CoderForLife> looks like 40 currently here
08:27 * CoderForLife starts going through a weeks' worth of junk mail
08:28 <CoderForLife> a couple of ominous envelopes from the Ohio Secretary of State...
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08:29 <CoderForLife> wb E-30
08:29 <CoderForLife> the state has noticed that I moved and is supplying me forms to register to vote
08:29 <E-30> lol
08:30 <CoderForLife> I guess that's despite already registering and voting in my new precinct
08:30 <E-30> oh well it hapens
08:31 <CoderForLife> my wife got a letter too - that's after registering at the same time I did, not being shown as a registered voter when the election came, and then getting her registration confirmation about 8 months later
08:32 <E-30> lol that our system
08:32 <E-30> fuck up ha
08:32 <E-30> oh well i dont car any more
08:32 <CoderForLife> and I am supposed to trust them with Social Security?
08:32 <E-30> as long as i can vote
08:32 <E-30> lol yea right you cant
08:33 * CoderForLife continues through the mail from last week
08:33 <CoderForLife> United Way thanks me for the recent extor^H^H^H^H^Hcontribution
08:33 <E-30> haha
08:34 <E-30> on well i jest looek through my mail and had out of 45 msg 30 were porn
08:34 <E-30> i hat taht
08:34 <E-30> hate that
08:38 * CoderForLife continues through the mail from last week
08:39 <CoderForLife> 5 credit card offers so far
08:41 <E-30> lol
08:41 <CoderForLife> 6
08:42 <E-30> wow
08:42 <xcamel> try 'lifelock'
08:42 <CoderForLife> 3 re-fi
08:42 <E-30> lol
08:42 <E-30> wow
08:44 <CoderForLife> 2nd offer from Amercian Express
08:45 <E-30> lol
08:45 <E-30> well i got some pics of my computer now
08:47 <E-30> where is a good place to upload to
08:47 <CoderForLife> Flickr?
08:48 <E-30> ok
08:48 <CoderForLife> that was a question =)
08:48 <E-30> i dont know
08:48 <CoderForLife> and I'm not recommending =)
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08:49 <E-30> i will try it out
08:49 <CoderForLife> I'm at 9 credit card offers in the last week
08:50 <CoderForLife> here's one for my son - American Express Gold
08:51 <CoderForLife> he's a full-time college student - his annual income is exactly zero
08:51 <E-30> lol
08:51 <E-30> well i had 30 the past week
08:54 <xcamel> sounds about right...
08:55 <E-30> wow xcamel
08:56 <E-30> hey go on flicker and look up selfridge2000
08:56 <E-30> i have my computer pics there
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09:03 <xcamel> wow?
09:03 <E-30> what
09:07 <CoderForLife> can't find selfridge2000
09:07 <E-30> dam
09:07 <E-30> whats your flicker name
09:08 <E-30> look up firstname.lastname@example.org
09:08 <E-30> email@example.com
09:08 <E-30> one of the two shuld work
09:09 <CoderForLife> I don't have a flickr name
09:10 <CoderForLife> is this it? http://www.flickr.com/photos/14957711@N03/?find=e-30%40sbcglobal.net
09:10 <E-30> yep
09:10 <E-30> oh i see
09:11 <CoderForLife> are those LCDs suspended?
09:11 <E-30> yea
09:11 <CoderForLife> wow
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09:12 <E-30> it was hard to do that
09:12 <CoderForLife> Dell was bragging on their AlienWare brand this past Wednesday at the Symposium
09:12 <E-30> i heard abaout that
09:13 <CoderForLife> you've got a chiller running?
09:13 <CoderForLife> plumbing?
09:13 <E-30> water cooling
09:14 <E-30> oc by 1ghz now
09:14 <E-30> snd video card is cool now
09:15 <CoderForLife> zounds
09:15 <E-30> it cools the whole system
09:15 <xcamel> quite a setup
09:15 <CoderForLife> I'd say
09:16 <E-30> well i put a lot in to it
09:16 <CoderForLife> does the power supply have a fan?
09:16 <E-30> it pulls 1400 on qmc right now
09:16 <xcamel> rac?
09:16 <E-30> yea
09:17 <xcamel> I'm pulling 4276 right now...
09:17 <E-30> that computer alone is pulling that much
09:17 <xcamel> it's a real horserace to see of seti or qmc gets to 1 million first...
09:18 <E-30> wow
09:18 <E-30> well i got tow more amd 64 3000 on now
09:18 <E-30> to qmc
09:18 <E-30> i see some else came in and kick oure ass in rac in qmc
09:19 * CoderForLife paddles along at 3205 RAC on QMC
09:19 <E-30> wow
09:19 <CoderForLife> Doug is really cranking
09:19 <xcamel> he added some boxes...
09:20 <xcamel> I just got larry, moe, and curly back on line after 6 months...
09:20 <E-30> 3412.50 is my rac right now
09:20 <E-30> wow
09:20 <E-30> well i have donkey, chris ,danny, and my laptop on now
09:21 <xcamel> supercamel.lledgerock.com >> 1,304.58 rac
09:21 <E-30> wow
09:21 <E-30> how meny computer do you have
09:22 <xcamel> 10 active
09:22 <E-30> i have 7
09:22 <xcamel> some are really old
09:23 <E-30> i take tahat back i lost 2
09:23 <E-30> i have 5 working now
09:24 <E-30> 2 are amd 64 3000 and one p4 1.8 ghz
09:24 <E-30> 2 c2d 6600
09:28 <CoderForLife> I need to take a walk around the house and look at the bird feeders
09:28 <CoderForLife> bbiab
09:28 <E-30> ok lol
09:33 <Soul_keeper> lol E-30
09:33 <E-30> why
09:33 <Soul_keeper> you must be loaded with dough
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09:33 <Soul_keeper> :)
09:34 <E-30> i been working on my gamming computer sence last nov
09:39 <Soul_keeper> heh
09:39 <Soul_keeper> are the parts outdated now ?
09:39 <E-30> it been a work in progress
09:39 <Soul_keeper> i never like peicing a system together, i rather save the money for a year and then get it all at once
09:40 <Soul_keeper> cheaper, and you get more up to date parts that way
09:40 <E-30> cd2 6600 oc toe 3.4 ghz and 2 gig or ram and 8800 gts
09:42 <E-30> about 300 dolers worth in parts total
09:42 <E-30> 3000
09:44 <Soul_keeper> nice
09:44 <Romulus> PovAddict: what adjustment do I know from when that window have to go to w@#% - later....
09:47 <Soul_keeper> hmmm no work today cause it's raining ...
09:47 <E-30> wow
09:47 <E-30> how is that
09:47 <Soul_keeper> can't do line striping in parking lots in the rain
09:47 <E-30> oh yea an 1 tb of hd space
09:48 <E-30> true
09:48 <E-30> lol
09:48 <Soul_keeper> ha 1tb
09:49 <E-30> yea and it is mosly full
09:49 <E-30> of amine
09:50 <E-30> 403 gb of amine right now
09:50 <E-30> 51 gb of music now
09:51 <Soul_keeper> anime is for lonely kids that think they are asian
09:51 <E-30> lol naa
09:51 <Soul_keeper> anime will never compare to the true american cartoons of the 80's and before
09:51 <E-30> i have some
09:51 <Soul_keeper> like trans formers, heman, alf, thunder cats etc.
09:52 <Soul_keeper> lol
09:52 <E-30> lol
09:55 <E-30> well off to make a key
09:59 <Soul_keeper> late
10:16 <CoderForLife> back
10:19 <Soul_keeper> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_W_transmission
10:19 <Soul_keeper> hmmmm my truck says i got a w46
10:19 <Soul_keeper> i wonder if a w55 or later 5spd would be bolt compatible for my engine
10:20 <Soul_keeper> i want a 5spd instead of 4spd
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10:43 <xcamel> re back
10:43 <BadBarbarian> morning X
10:44 <BadBarbarian> 28 degrees F here this morning
10:45 <ELGono> &math convert 28 F to C
10:45 <Romulus> ELGono: -2.22222222222
10:45 <ELGono> &weather meiningen, germany
10:45 <Romulus> ELGono: Temperature: 54Â°F / 12Â°C | Humidity: 46% | Pressure: 30.32in / 1027hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 4mph / 7km/h | Updated: 4:00 PM CEST; Partly Cloudy. High:53 ° F. / 12 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:32 ° F. / 0 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:55 ° F. / 13 ° C.; Clear. Low:37 ° F. / 3 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. High:59 ° F. / 15 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:46 ° F. / 8 ° C.;
10:46 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86023
10:46 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 30°F / -1°C | Humidity: 60% | Pressure: 29.90in / 1012hPa | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h ; Today - Cooler. Mostly cloudy. A chance of rain showers early in the morning...a chance of thunderstorms in the late morning and afternoon. Highs around 45 on the North Rim to around 75 along the Colorado River. Light winds becoming west around 15 mph early (2 more messages)
10:47 <BadBarbarian> &more
10:47 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: in the afternoon...then becoming light late in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation 30 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a 10 percent chance of rain showers in the evening...partly cloudy after midnight. Lows around 26 on the North Rim to around 47 along the Colorado River. West winds around 15 mph early in the evening becoming light.; Sunday - Mostly sunny. Highs around 50 on the North (1 more message)
10:47 <BadBarbarian> &more
10:47 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Rim to around 78 along the Colorado River. Light winds.;
10:47 <xcamel> 'lo BB
10:48 <BadBarbarian> lo xcamel
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10:51 <CoderForLife> hello BadBarbarian
10:51 <BadBarbarian> howdy CFL
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11:06 <E-30> ok i am back got the new key too ytea
11:06 <E-30> yea
11:11 <E-30> &weather wiesbaden
11:11 <Romulus> E-30: Temperature: 57.2Â°F / 14.0Â°C | Humidity: 35% | Pressure: 30.35in / 1027.7hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 3.1mph / 5.0km/h | Updated: 5:00 PM CEST; Partly Cloudy. High:59 ° F. / 15 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:41 ° F. / 5 ° C.; Clear. High:62 ° F. / 17 ° C.; Clear. Low:42 ° F. / 6 ° C.; Clear. High:66 ° F. / 19 ° C.; Clear. Low:51 ° F. / 11 ° C.;
11:15 <E-30> well off to game now
11:16 <E-30> _-\||/-_
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11:38 <xcamel> still pretty nippy out
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11:43 <CoderForLife> 74F in the sun
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11:59 <CoderForLife> so does this go clockwise or anticlockwise for you? http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,22556678-23272,00.html?from=mostpop
12:04 <xcamel> very strange thing going on there...
12:11 <PovAddict> I see it clockwise, and I still can't focus enough to change the direction, but the description definitely doesn't match me
12:12 <PovAddict> wait, is it "clockwise as seen from above"?
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12:28 <xcamel> it keeps switching on me - I mus be bi-polar
12:28 <xcamel> :^/
12:28 <PovAddict> is it "clockwise as seen from above"?
12:28 <Romulus> i still like my big army tent ant the chaos communication congress
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12:42 <E-30> ok i am back now
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14:06 <MTughan> Damn modem dropped out on me...
14:07 <MTughan> Anyway, I have a "free" LEGO Mindstorms NXT kit for the weekend. :D
14:07 <PovAddict> lolwut
14:08 <PovAddict> gonna use the graphical programming system, or NXC?
14:08 <MTughan> My school's participating in a robotics comp, and we got our kit today. No one else really wanted to keep it over the weekend, so I get to play around with it.
14:08 <PovAddict> cool
14:08 <MTughan> Not sure yet... I'd probably be using leJOS if I were to use something besides the GUI.
14:09 <PovAddict> wow I didnt know leJOS had an NXT version already
14:09 <MTughan> They have a beta of it.
14:09 <MTughan> yoyo[RKN]: Glad to see you back. That yoyo@home WU I got on the 10th: it's still at 12.5%.
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14:11 <PovAddict> how the f00k did they make a JVM in 10KB of code??
14:11 <MTughan> Very carefully. :P
14:11 <MTughan> And it's not a full JVM, as I know.
14:11 <PovAddict> well, I'm reading about the older TinyVM
14:12 <PovAddict> 10KB, no gc, no floating point (there's no hardware support for that, at least on the RCX), no switch, no strings
14:12 <yoyo[RKN]> MTughan : a wu can need up to 40h to finish
14:12 <MTughan> This has been running for probably about 30h total.
14:12 <MTughan> Probably more.
14:14 <PovAddict> oh, NXJ doesn't have a gc either
14:14 <PovAddict> I'd have expected they could do it now...
14:14 <PovAddict> more space for code
14:16 <MTughan> Holy crap... My notification system (Growl) is taking 175MB of RAM...
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14:31 <c0dewarrior> sounds like everything these days
14:31 <Romulus> ill try using that walking stick I made one pair of Canadians...
14:32 <c0dewarrior> 0_0
14:34 <MTughan> Is that bot even considered sane?
14:34 <c0dewarrior> Is anything sane these days?
14:34 <c0dewarrior> :-p
14:35 <MTughan> True...
14:35 <PovAddict> &markov
14:35 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: I was unable to generate a Markov chain at least 8 words long.
14:35 <PovAddict> fine
14:35 <c0dewarrior> and evening pov/mt
14:35 <MTughan> Ev'nin.
14:36 <c0dewarrior> how're ya all keepin
14:37 <MTughan> Pretty good. I have an free NXT kit for the weekend...
14:37 <c0dewarrior> heh
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16:10 <MTughan> Whoa... The NXT software uses Gecko...
16:11 <PovAddict> yep :)
16:11 <MTughan> For what?
16:11 <PovAddict> well, the tutorials and instructions and stuff are HTML
16:11 <PovAddict> even on Windows, it uses gecko instead of embedding IE
16:12 <MTughan> One good thing LEGO. Nice work. :P
16:12 <MTughan> Hmm... I'm thinking if the yoyo@home WU doesn't finish by Monday morning, I'll terminate it.
16:13 <MTughan> It's slowing down everything else.
16:13 <MTughan> Oh, Bluetooth works like a charm on this. I think it's a little slower than USB, but it works fine.
16:16 <MTughan> Cool... The NXT software comes with ways to take control of the buttons and display in a program. The RCX could do display through NQC, and there are some that have done buttons, but there are no methods in NQC for those...
16:17 <MTughan> Nice... You can draw circles on the display too. In addition to single points and lines...
16:17 <MTughan> Oh no. You could make Pong on this... >:)
16:18 <PovAddict> MTughan: to control the buttons in the RCX, you need lower level coding
16:18 <PovAddict> ie. alternate firmware
16:18 <PovAddict> you can even show stuff on the display that is not a number
16:18 <PovAddict> controlling the individual segments
16:18 <MTughan> Well, NXT can do it by default.
16:18 <PovAddict> yep :)
16:19 <MTughan> Camino needs to concentrate less on Flash and more on its own performance...
16:19 * CoderForLife wanders back to #boinc
16:19 <CoderForLife> hello all
16:20 <MTughan> 'lo CFL
16:20 <CoderForLife> hey MT
16:20 <CoderForLife> feels good to be home
16:20 <MTughan> Just trying to get the link... Someone made a pong game on a LEGO NXT.
16:21 <CoderForLife> was just outside in the woods, following some animal (primarily raccoon) trails
16:21 <CoderForLife> I think I found their den
16:22 <CoderForLife> next - fry some burgers on the grill
16:22 <CoderForLife> bbl
16:22 <MTughan> The Flash is as responsive as can be, but Camino's as slow as a 5Hz processor.
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16:23 <E-30> hey
16:23 <MTughan> 'lo E
16:23 <E-30> how ae you doing
16:23 <E-30> are
16:23 <PovAddict> whoa shit
16:23 <MTughan> Pretty good. Got myself a free NXT for the w/e.
16:23 <E-30> why do you say that
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16:24 <MTughan> I think it was the link. Someone made pong in an NXT.
16:24 <efc> did you see the lego car factory MTu ?
16:25 <E-30> yep lol i thaout it was funny
16:25 <E-30> yea
16:25 <MTughan> I don't think so...
16:25 <efc> video on youtube
16:25 <E-30> true
16:26 <MTughan> Oh, that one. Yeah, I have seen it.
16:27 <E-30> so how is everyone tonight '
16:27 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Mindstorms Autofabrik (at www.youtube.com)
16:27 <E-30> too much free time there
16:27 <MTughan> lol
16:28 <MTughan> Reason I have an NXT for the weekend is because my school is entered in a robotics competition. We got the bot today, and no one really wanted to keep it until Monday, except for me. So it was unanimous, I guess you could say.
16:28 <E-30> lol
16:29 <quail> g'morning all
16:30 <E-30> it 1032 pm here
16:30 <MTughan> Morning. Although 4:30PM here.
16:30 <quail> it 6 am here
16:30 <MTughan> So E-30: You're in England?
16:30 <E-30> no germany
16:30 <MTughan> Wait, that's 5 hours...
16:30 <MTughan> Right, thanks.
16:31 <E-30> i am in the army
16:31 <MTughan> So you understand the time as 2230?
16:31 <E-30> wiesbade air field
16:31 <E-30> yea
16:31 <MTughan> Sort of...
16:31 <E-30> eather way i understane now
16:31 <MTughan> Yeah. I have to think about army time for a sec, but I can understand both.
16:32 <E-30> i see cool
16:32 <efc> that looks like the same one MTu
16:32 <yoyo[RKN]> Guten Abend E-30 ;)
16:32 <MTughan> Okay. I have seen it before.
16:33 <E-30> wow
16:33 <E-30> i cant read german
16:33 <MTughan> lol
16:33 <E-30> i think taht says good night
16:33 <E-30> that
16:33 <yoyo[RKN]> it says good evening
16:33 <MTughan> Good evening seems more likely...
16:33 <MTughan> Hehe...
16:33 <E-30> i was close
16:33 <yoyo[RKN]> not close enough
16:34 <E-30> wow
16:34 <quail> ni hao
16:34 <yoyo[RKN]> chinese?
16:34 <quail> yep
16:34 <MTughan> Cool.
16:34 <E-30> what does it say
16:34 <quail> hello
16:34 <E-30> wow two words for one word
16:35 <quail> chinese is strangew as one work can have diff meaning depend the contect it used in
16:36 <quail> s/work/word
16:36 <E-30> pics of my computer
16:36 <MTughan> Water cooling?
16:37 <E-30> yep
16:37 <E-30> thats my oc computer
16:37 <E-30> 1.1 ghz oc now
16:37 <MTughan> Few cables over the place.
16:37 <E-30> 2.4 ghz to 3.5 ghz
16:37 <E-30> yea
16:37 <E-30> i play games
16:38 <MTughan> Nice... I'd probably push my P4 to melting if I overclocked it that much... 2.8GHz.
16:38 <E-30> lol
16:38 <E-30> i know how that is
16:38 <MTughan> Runs at 55C when BOINC is running, and that's with a more powerful fan.
16:38 <E-30> 46 c here
16:38 <MTughan> 3.2GHz pushed it up to about 75C.
16:38 <E-30> oc
16:39 <E-30> stock is 36 c
16:39 <MTughan> Well, water cooling is mush more powerful than fans...
16:39 <MTughan> Heh. Stock here was about 65C at full load. Intel... >_>
16:40 <E-30> yea
16:40 <E-30> my brothers computer has the same processer i have and it runs at 65 stock
16:41 <quail> E-30: nice computer setup
16:41 <efc> Does passive water or oil cooling work ok?
16:41 <E-30> i am jest useing watter right now
16:42 <E-30> i was using anti freze
16:42 <quail> E-30: i would just use coolent
16:43 <E-30> that what the stuff is
16:43 <E-30> jest watter down some
16:43 <efc> ciculates through convection?
16:43 <efc> circ*
16:44 <MTughan> What graphics do you have in "Picture 010"?
16:44 <MTughan> Says Nvidia SLI.
16:44 <E-30> yea
16:44 <E-30> 8800 gts
16:44 <MTughan> Nice...
16:44 <E-30> 640 mb
16:45 <MTughan> RAM?
16:45 <E-30> yea
16:45 <E-30> each
16:45 <MTughan> Sweet... O_O
16:45 <E-30> insted of 320
16:45 <efc> hehe picture 016 looks like one of those EPA energy stickers they put on water heaters, A/C units, etc
16:46 <E-30> lol
16:46 <MTughan> Wow, powerful graphics cards have come a long way. I've got an ATI AIW 9600XT (Radeon 9600 chipset). It has 128MB memory.
16:46 <E-30> yea they have
16:46 <efc> GF4 here from 2002, 128 megs
16:46 <MTughan> Mine's from 2004.
16:47 <quail> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.22-14-generic | Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.60GHz 1595.420 MHz | Bogomips: 3194.47 | Mem: 878/1265M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 264.39G Free: 207.17G | Procs: 120 | Uptime: 2 days 22 hrs 33 mins 34 secs | Load: 0.58 0.39 0.29 | Screen: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev a2) @ 1440x900 (32 bpp) GPU clock: 249.750 MHz | eth0: In: 392.80M Out: 43.39M
16:47 <quail> Sensors: HDD: 34Â°C
16:48 <MTughan> Plugin?
16:48 <MTughan> The stats, I meant.
16:48 <quail> perl script
16:48 <MTughan> Ah.
16:48 <E-30> i need to get mine back soon
16:48 <efc> Yeah i always wanted to get one of those scripts going, never did figure it out (on windows)
16:49 <efc> mainly so my 386 could report its 1.96 bogomips
16:49 <MTughan> Bogomips?
16:49 <quail> bogmips are boggus
16:50 <E-30> lol
16:50 <efc> its basically how fast the cpu can spin an idle loop, doesn't mean much
16:50 <MTughan> That's what I thought...
16:50 <MTughan> lol
16:50 <E-30> wow
16:50 <quail> my video card is on 64MB
16:51 <E-30> the computer is called donkey
16:51 <quail> but friend of mine is going to give me his old nvidia fx 5200 which is 128MB
16:51 <MTughan> Where did you get your script from?
16:51 <E-30> and i the it has the girl side cove
16:52 <E-30> it has its time of the week
16:52 <E-30> cool
16:52 <efc> I lost track of video cards after they went to the GF XTREME FX 5201 A GOLDEN SAMPLE 3 naming scheme
16:52 <quail> MTughan: i can't remember, but i can give you a copy of mine if you use xchat or irssi
16:52 <MTughan> Hmm... Colloquy...
16:52 <MTughan> Is there a standalone script?
16:53 <MTughan> Actually, I can probably use it.
16:53 <E-30> my last qmc unit
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16:54 <E-30> 22,977.91time 285.55credit
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16:54 <E-30> not bad i think '
16:55 <MTughan> Nevermind, I found it.
16:55 <E-30> for mirc
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16:56 <MTughan> That's the one I found.
16:56 <quail> i done lot work on mine to get it to work properly with irssi
16:57 <MTughan> XChat there.
16:57 <MTughan> Hmm... "Unknown file type /Users/mtughan/Desktop/sysinfo-0.3.0/sysinfo.pl. Maybe you need to install the Perl or Python plugin?"
16:57 <MTughan> I have Perl.
16:57 <Romulus> TheGasGiant I know you're gone by the clock mults were unlocked on the mailing lists...
16:57 <E-30> lol
16:57 <PovAddict> erm
16:57 <quail> MTughan: you need to drop the script in the .xchat2/ dir
16:58 <MTughan> Ah...
16:58 <quail> and then load the script via xchat
16:59 <MTughan_> LOAD
16:59 <MTughan> Damn...
17:00 <quail> if you are using windows the script will not work, as it calling on linux commands
17:00 <MTughan> Mac.
17:00 <MTughan> Where do I drop in? ~/.xchat2 doesn't work either...
17:01 <quail> MTughan: you will have to find a script that is compatable with mac then
17:01 <MTughan> Mac is Unix based.
17:01 <PovAddict> getting system info is likely to differ between unixes
17:01 <quail> PovAddict: true
17:02 <quail> but not much tho, but there is bit diff between unix and linux with command names
17:02 <quail> but with linux there not much of a diff, it more to where the commands are
17:02 <E-30> wow
17:03 <MTughan> Well, cat exists on Mac... But /proc doesn't.
17:03 <PovAddict> no /proc? then that's *totally* different from any linux
17:03 <quail> MTughan: that script was written for linux
17:03 <MTughan> I know.
17:03 <PovAddict> well there's even different formats for /proc contents...
17:03 <quail> PovAddict: it mac os X
17:04 <quail> thx for the /ctcp version
17:05 <quail> thx for the /ctcp version MTughan
17:05 <quail> hehe
17:05 <MTughan> Ah, you saw that.
17:05 <MTughan> That was about 5 minutes ago though...
17:05 <quail> MTughan: i see everything hehe
17:05 <MTughan> Not fast enough, it seems.
17:06 <Romulus> Title: A MacFUSE-Based Process File System for Mac OS X (at osxbook.com)
17:06 <quail> MTughan: i have to change to the status window to see it
17:06 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
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17:08 <quail> MTughan: nice laptop, how much it set you back?
17:09 <MTughan> About $1800CDN total.
17:09 <PovAddict> ¤cy convert 1800 CDN to USD
17:09 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: You used an incorrect currency symbol.
17:09 <MTughan> Laptop itself was $1500, and then I bought $300 in RAM upgrades. Apple wanted $600 at the time to do the same thing...
17:09 <quail> ¤cy convert 1800 CDN AUD
17:09 <Romulus> quail: Error: You used an incorrect currency symbol.
17:09 <PovAddict> o rly
17:09 <MTughan> I think CDN isn't recognized...
17:10 <PovAddict> ¤cy convert 1800 CAD to USD
17:10 <Romulus> PovAddict: 1800.00 cad = 1852.56 usd
17:10 <quail> ¤cy convert 1800 CAD AUD
17:10 <Romulus> quail: 1800.00 cad = 2048.94 aud
17:10 <yoyo[RKN]> ¤cy convert 1800 CAD EUR
17:11 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: 1800.00 cad = 1306.98 eur
17:11 <MTughan> lol
17:11 * quail still waiting to get my laptop back from the repairer, waiting for new mainboard and keyboard
17:12 <MTughan> The only thing about this is the sleep light is broken, and the internal CD drive doesn't work.
17:12 <MTughan> I'm not sure how those happened.
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17:14 <E-30> humm
17:14 * quail semi sort of watching Swordfish
17:14 <MTughan> Swordfish? WTF?
17:15 * quail love to have that computer that is in the movie with all them displays
17:15 <MTughan> Like, the actual fish, or a show by that name?
17:15 <E-30> wow nice book
17:16 <quail> Swordfish - Cyberspace is a world protected by firewalls, passwords and the most advanced security systems. In this world we hide our deepest secrets, our most incriminating information, and of course, a whole lot of money. This is the world of Swordfish. Gabriel Shear, a charismatic and dangerous spy, needs to get inside this world. If he can get in, billions in illegal government funds wait for the taking. To actually steal the money, howev
17:16 <PovAddict> movie?
17:17 <E-30> ye a
17:17 <quail> yep
17:17 <quail> movie was released in 2001
17:18 <MTughan> Oh, your message got cut off. "To actually steal the money, howev"
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17:18 <quail> however, he'll need the help of Stanley Jobson, a former superhacker who's now desperate and penniless. Stanley has been forbidden to get within 50 yards of the nearest electronics store after doing time for
17:18 <quail> wreaking havoc on the FBI's controversial high-ech cyber surveillance operations. Gabriel and his beautiful partner Ginger lure Stanley into their clandestine world, baiting him with the thigngs he can't have - a chance to reunite with Holly, the daughter he lost during a bitter divorce battle and the opportunity to start a new life.
17:19 <MTughan> Interesting...
17:21 <quail> MTughan: movie got fast cars, fast computers, great looking women, and lot of action
17:23 <E-30> lol
17:23 <E-30> yea
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17:26 <CoderForLife> hey quail
17:26 <CoderForLife> re-hi MT,E
17:26 <MTughan> 'lo-again CFL
17:27 <Romulus> 25/04/2007 7:10:57 AM|| 1200 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
17:27 <MTughan> 1200? That's not too fast, I think...
17:27 <CoderForLife> yeah, whatever Rommie
17:27 <quail> CoderForLife: g'morning mate, how are you?
17:27 <CoderForLife> fine quail - it's very good to be home again
17:28 <quail> CoderForLife: great to hear, did you have a good trip away?
17:28 <CoderForLife> yeah, it was good, but tiring
17:29 <quail> so you going to be having a relaxing weekend then?
17:29 <CoderForLife> saw your buddies Steve Ballmer and Michael Dell on Wednesday
17:29 <CoderForLife> Dell said he likes ubuntu
17:29 <CoderForLife> Ballmer doesn't
17:30 <quail> Steve Ballmer not my buddy, he just a wanker
17:30 * PovAddict calls wdsmia for another kick
17:30 <MTughan> Although, I did read on CNET that Linux is mainly selling on servers, not desktops or laptops.
17:30 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: I'll see if I can make this next Ubuntu release less of a mess
17:30 <PovAddict> MTughan: correct; on desktops it doesn't sell, it gets downloaded :)
17:31 <MTughan> Most end-users would rather get it preinstalled.
17:31 <quail> MTughan: that is true cause it stable as a rock on the side of a cliff
17:31 <CoderForLife> no need to "sell" if it doesn't require "services"
17:32 <CoderForLife> bbiaf
17:32 <MTughan> Oh, misremembered the story slightly... http://www.news.com/Dell-Microsoft-warnings-havent-hurt-Linux-uptake/2100-7344_3-6213270.html
17:32 <quail> MTughan: it only movies if there problem out of its control
17:32 <MTughan> Only what?
17:32 <quail> s/movies/moves
17:32 <MTughan> Ah... Like a hardware crash or something.
17:33 <quail> MTughan: that or software glitch
17:33 <Romulus> Title: Photos: Dinosaur Sightings: 1970s computers | CNET News.com (at www.news.com)
17:34 <quail> MTughan: my server already been taken offline in the past cause of a bad kernel update
17:34 <PovAddict> last ubuntu release was a real mess, so much hype most mirrors got overloaded
17:34 <quail> and that cause debian stuffed up but they had a new kernel out in about 6 hours
17:36 <quail> this is all the crap i had to go throgh to get ubuntu 6.10 to work on my laptop >>> http://quail.southernvaleslug.org/acer_aspire_5601AWLMi.html
17:38 <quail> and this the workaround i had to use to get ubuntu 7.04 to park the hdd properly on shutdown >>> http://quail.southernvaleslug.org/webblog/archives/29
17:41 <E-30> wow
17:42 <quail> ah it all fun, i like hardware hacking
17:42 <E-30> i see
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17:47 <quail> now this is very cool >>> http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/industry/4224763.html?series=37
17:49 <CoderForLife> baaack
17:50 <E-30> cool
17:50 <Romulus> certainly Schumer can figure out if the main advantage of the updates in a couple years ago
17:50 <MTughan> So I wonder how much power it makes...
17:51 <E-30> same here
17:51 <E-30> some one hel-p me beld one and i will tel you
17:51 <MTughan> build*
17:52 <E-30> yea
17:52 <E-30> i am going to bed soon
17:53 <CoderForLife> well, sleep well E-30
17:54 <E-30> good night
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17:54 <MTughan> &convert currency 230 USD to CAD
17:54 <Romulus> MTughan: Error: The command "convert" is available in the Currency and Math plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "convert".
17:54 <MTughan> ¤cy convert 230 USD to CAD
17:54 <Romulus> MTughan: 230.00 usd = 223.28 cad
17:54 <MTughan> What a ripoff...
17:54 <MTughan> $350 at a store...
17:55 <CoderForLife> math convert
17:55 <MTughan> ?
17:55 <CoderForLife> or not
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17:56 <quail> CoderForLife: so what have you got planned for the weekend there?
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17:58 <quail> long live the 80's, sorry I just put The Terminator in the dvd player and about to press play
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17:58 <MTughan> lol
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18:00 <quail> I like the 80's they were the pioneering years for computerized scifi stuff
18:00 <MTughan> True...
18:01 <quail> i have to get terminator 2 and 3 as well
18:02 <efc> The T-1000 runs 6805 assembly, FYI
18:02 <efc> unless i got it wrong
18:02 <MTughan> lol
18:03 <efc> sorry, i meant the T-101
18:03 <efc> the Ahnold
18:03 <MTughan> rofl
18:05 * CoderForLife turns his attention back to #boinc
18:06 <CoderForLife> hmm TradeStation is too rich for my blood
18:06 <CoderForLife> my weekend is about 1/2 over quail
18:06 <efc> ah yes, it was MOS 6502, so apparently Ahnold runs a heavily modified Commodore 64
18:06 <efc> "The platform that just won't die"
18:07 <CoderForLife> I programmed a lot of 6502 assembly language
18:07 <efc> 9445 Nova here
18:07 <CoderForLife> slot-independent code to run in EPROM on cards for the Apple ][
18:08 <quail> CoderForLife: yeah my weekend almost over too, back to TAFE this week
18:08 <CoderForLife> A Burroughs TD-830 terminal emulator for the Apple - marketed as "The Burple"
18:08 <efc> he runs some Cobol too, i suppose for the more financial aspects of murdering people
18:10 <quail> lol
18:11 * CoderForLife adds he was not responsible for marketing
18:13 <CoderForLife> I've done no Coding today, unfortunately, but I have been doing things around the house
18:15 <CoderForLife> bbiaf
18:21 <CoderForLife> b
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18:29 <quail> CoderForLife: a day away from coding is not a bad thing, means when you do get back to it your brain will be nice and refreshed :-)
18:30 <CoderForLife> so I am several days of refreshed?
18:33 <quail> brb
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18:39 <MTughan> Goin' out for dinner. bbl
18:41 <CoderForLife> cya MT
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18:44 <CoderForLife> I'm off for the evening - I bb in the morning
18:51 <efc> night cfl
18:54 <quail> back
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19:39 <efc> sounds like i need to disassemble and clean out the GPU fan again
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19:51 * quail puts another 80's movie in the dvd player to watch on the moronoscope
19:52 <PovAddict> moronoscope?
19:52 <PovAddict> synonym of tv?
19:55 <quail> &dict moronoscope
19:55 <Romulus> quail: No definition for "moronoscope" could be found.
19:55 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: I remember warp 0.5 which means i start it manually with telnet, use HEAD instead of oldschool paper and pencil
19:55 <quail> PovAddict: yeah moronoscope another name for TV
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20:34 <MTughan> Back. efc: How's the GPU fan?
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20:58 <efc> Seems to be doing fine now
20:58 <efc> blew the dust out, added some WD-40
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21:20 <wdsmia> &ping
21:20 <Romulus> pong
21:20 <wdsmia> &ding
21:20 <Romulus> DONG!
21:23 <efc> &moo
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22:42 <wdsmia> &weather 50265
22:42 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 57°F / 14°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.94in / 1014hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Showers and isolated thunderstorms. Low in the mid 50s. East wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 90 percent.; Sunday - Showers and isolated thunderstorms. High in the upper 60s. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation 90 (1 more message)
22:42 <wdsmia> &more
22:42 <Romulus> wdsmia: percent.; Sunday Night - Widespread showers and isolated thunderstorms. Some thunderstorms may produce heavy rainfall. Low in the mid 50s. East wind 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation 90 percent.;
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23:39 <sethy> PovAddict?
23:39 <PovAddict> boo
23:40 <sethy> you busy?
23:40 <PovAddict> nope
23:48 <Soul_keeper> bla
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