IRC logs of #boinc for Tuesday, 2007-10-23

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06:28 <hawmps> 'lo

06:29 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

06:29 <MTughan> See, I remember these things...

06:32 <MTughan> And I gotta leave for school...

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07:31 <quail> hiya Jay and mt

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11:13 <hawmps> 'lo Desti

11:14 <desti_T2> lo

11:24 <Reza_M> Hi, I can't build the server code. I've tried the trunk version and the boinc_core_release_5_10 branch. I'm using ubuntu 7.10,

11:24 <Reza_M> server_types.C:993: error: ‘read_file_malloc’ was not declared in this scope

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11:36 <Reza_M> OK! I got it to work, #include "util.h" was missing in sched/server_types.C and sched/sample_work_generator.C

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12:42 <cypr1nus> i have a question: I've downloaded boinc I connected to rosetta@home. What's the program do with files in core/0 or 1 or 2 or 3? after packages being done?

12:43 <cypr1nus> can i see all protein structures that has been done on my computer?

12:43 <cypr1nus> or just last 4?

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14:05 <freelarry> morn

14:07 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

14:08 <freelarry> howdy yoyo[RKN]

14:09 <freelarry> your project going ok?

14:09 <yoyo[RKN]> yes

14:10 <yoyo[RKN]> the project runs without touching it

14:10 <yoyo[RKN]> our organization is writing a book about dc

14:10 * freelarry throws a question to the wind and listens for responses -- on a server, are more or less hd's better for response

14:10 <freelarry> ahh what is the project name?

14:11 <yoyo[RKN]> yoyo@home

14:11 <freelarry> or should say what is its goal

14:11 <yoyo[RKN]> the goal of my project or the goal of the book?

14:12 <freelarry> project

14:13 <yoyo[RKN]> the project searches for an optimal golumb ruler of length 25:

14:13 <Romulus> Title: Golomb ruler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

14:14 <freelarry> ahh - finally got website up

14:17 <freelarry> i see now why this machine slowing down - using more memory than i physically have installed

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14:54 <hawmps> 'lo Larry

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15:09 <freelarry> lo jay

15:10 <freelarry> just putting some parts together

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15:53 <xcamel> re-hi from here

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16:26 <MTughan> 'lo CFL

16:26 <MTughan> And now I forget your name...

16:27 <MTughan> Dave?

16:27 <Romulus> yawns and rubs the smudge off of the museum

16:27 * CoderForLife checks his name badge

16:27 <CoderForLife> It says "Don"

16:27 <MTughan> Ah. Right...

16:28 <CoderForLife> It says "Bus #12" also

16:28 <CoderForLife> make sure I get on the right one, please

16:28 <MTughan> Sounds like elementary school...

16:29 <CoderForLife> so - we've had over 4 inches of rain yesterday and today

16:29 <MTughan> That's a bit more than we've had...

16:29 <freelarry> ahh had the wrong name earlier - hi doug and jay don and MTughan

16:29 <MTughan> 'lo freelarry

16:29 <CoderForLife> hey Larry

16:30 <MTughan> I'm Michael if you want to call me that.

16:30 <CoderForLife> we set a rainfall record yesterday

16:30 * CoderForLife writes on the wall "MTughan=Michael"

16:30 * freelarry checks his id -- it says Larry -- wonders if thats right

16:30 <CoderForLife> sounds weak to me, Larry

16:31 * CoderForLife ducks

16:31 <freelarry> you got the last correct

16:31 <freelarry> that was the second name on id

16:31 <CoderForLife> ah

16:31 <freelarry> same spelling to

16:31 <CoderForLife> yeah, but you got a nifty eagle on yours

16:32 * freelarry is playing carpenter - auto mechanic and computer assembler today

16:32 <MTughan> From PovAddict on another channel...

16:32 <Romulus> <> (at

16:32 <CoderForLife> but you still wear your USPS name badge?  that's dedication

16:35 <freelarry> is stuck on the vest

16:35 <freelarry> hanging on the wall

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16:38 <CoderForLife> I keep an extra company pin on my PJs

16:38 <CoderForLife> I did Coinstar for the first time today

16:39 <MTughan> Oh, those things...

16:39 <CoderForLife> had collected over $400 in "spare change" - converted it into gift certificate

16:40 <CoderForLife> it will pay for most of Christmas

16:42 <CoderForLife> Stephen's birthday is in November as well

16:42 <MTughan> I think I have over $2.5 in pennies from just one year... It was a collection.

16:42 <MTughan> Don't ask. :P

16:43 <freelarry> humm better check the locks on my collection

16:48 <CoderForLife> Coinstar tells me it counted 1969 pennies

16:48 <CoderForLife> I pulled out 5 Canadian pennies =)

16:49 <CoderForLife> it says it counted 907 quarters

16:50 <CoderForLife> I had A LOT of quarters

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16:58 <mweltin> I hit 100% disc usage and I already deleted my copy of "Way of the Dragon"  how do I clean up after boinc?  There seems to be a big pile of old workunits in the upload dir.  How do I get rid of those?

16:58 <PovAddict> are you running file_deleter daemon?

16:59 <CoderForLife> bbiab

16:59 <mweltin> yes

16:59 <PovAddict> should be getting rid of them

17:00 <PovAddict> is there any pending work now?

17:00 <PovAddict> is there any WU in progress or waiting to be sent?

17:00 <mweltin> yes there is pending work, and almost all the the files are getting delelted but a few are not.

17:00 <PovAddict> what is your initial replication aka target_nresults?

17:01 <mweltin> yes, I'm churning out workunits like crazy now that things are working smoothly.

17:01 <mweltin> PovAddict: let me check

17:02 <yoyo[RKN]> maybe the log files are getting big

17:02 <mweltin> that could be

17:02 <mweltin> target_nresults is not set anymore

17:02 <mweltin> used to be set to 1

17:03 <mweltin> yes

17:03 <mweltin> its the log files

17:03 <mweltin> du -h lob_bob

17:03 <mweltin> 14G

17:03 <PovAddict> ./bin/stop before deleting logs

17:03 <PovAddict> omg

17:03 <mweltin> is there a directive to limit log size?

17:03 <PovAddict> nope, you should work that on your own

17:04 <mweltin> ok

17:04 <yoyo[RKN]> if you make your wus running longer, this will reduce also logfile size

17:04 <PovAddict> I did a cronjob that stops project, moves logfiles to a subdirectory, starts project, and compresses the old logs

17:04 <PovAddict> and what yoyo said

17:04 <PovAddict> add checkpoints and make them last 24 hours :P

17:05 <PovAddict> nah just kidding... but below 10 minutes is totally crazy

17:05 <mweltin> the feedback I got from the forum was people like a 1-2hr WU

17:06 <mweltin> I'm shooting for that on a 1.3GHz box

17:07 <mweltin> wow thats starnge I only freed up like 5GB

17:10 <mweltin> hey I got an email from someone asking to have their account key emailed to them.

17:10 <PovAddict> check your apache log too

17:10 <mweltin> ok

17:10 <PovAddict> and - tell him to get it himself

17:10 <mweltin> he said his account was created by a scirpt and can't login and change the password to something he knows.

17:11 <Romulus> Title: Get account key (at

17:11 <mweltin> is this a scam

17:11 <mweltin> ok

17:12 <PovAddict> hmm I seem to be receiving one workunit at a time from TSP

17:12 <MTughan> I'm not getting any. :P

17:12 <freelarry> hey PovAddict how many hd's should i put in the new machine? 1 to max 5

17:12 <PovAddict> o_O

17:12 <MTughan> Why are you asking us?

17:12 <yoyo[RKN]> take 5

17:12 <freelarry> c2d with 4 gig mem

17:13 <MTughan> Dude...

17:13 <freelarry> size?

17:13 <freelarry> lol trying to figure out how much and what i can afford

17:13 <PovAddict> also mweltin you seem to be using initial replication 5!

17:13 <mweltin> apache logs are only 230MB

17:13 <freelarry> sides pov may use machine once built

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17:13 <MTughan> Shoot... I was going to do something, and I can't remember what it was for the life of me...

17:14 <PovAddict> it won't delete the uploaded files until *all* 5 are back

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17:15 <mweltin> PovAddict: so if it gives up on one result the rest don't get deleted?

17:15 <mweltin> and the workuint stays in the upload dir?

17:15 <PovAddict> if one result gets deadline, it will generate a new one if quorum hasn't reached yet

17:15 <mweltin> quorum is 2

17:15 <PovAddict> files will never stay in upload dir *forever*

17:16 <mweltin> I always get that.

17:16 <PovAddict> just the way it's set, it will take long to get deleted

17:16 <MTughan> brb

17:16 <PovAddict> also why am I getting only one WU at a time?

17:16 <xcamel> re-re-back

17:16 <mweltin> let me check for the target_nresults again

17:16 <freelarry> wbb jay

17:16 <PovAddict> how much is your <max_wus_to_send>?

17:17 <mweltin> 50

17:17 <PovAddict> wonder why I'm getting one at a time then

17:17 <mweltin> one_result_per_user_per_workuint

17:17 <mweltin> is set to 1 as well

17:17 <PovAddict> well, I should be getting 50 results from different workunits

17:18 <PovAddict> my last bunch have been crashing ->

17:18 <Romulus> <> (at

17:19 <mweltin> well when the disk was at 100% it couldnt copy any results.

17:19 <mweltin> I coudn't even edit my config file.

17:19 <MTughan> Oh, darn it... Just remembered what I was going to show yoyo[RKN]...

17:20 <MTughan> mweltin: Are you on Windows?

17:20 <PovAddict> you can't run a project on Windows

17:20 <mweltin> I have an XP client, but Boinc is on a Slackware box.

17:21 <mweltin> and its not a VM

17:21 <PovAddict> well I keep getting one silly WU per request

17:21 <MTughan> Good. I remember some times when my flash drive would get full, and when I tried to delete some files, Windows would say there wasn't enough space on the disk. Imagine if that happened to a hard drive...

17:21 <PovAddict> and they keep crashing

17:22 <PovAddict> this is 99.99% overhead

17:22 <MTughan> "Archivos de programa" would be "Program Files"?

17:22 <PovAddict> request work, download one file, take a millisecond to process, upload file, report it

17:22 <mweltin> yeah I'm working on that.

17:22 <PovAddict> it would be better if I could download 50 at a time >.>

17:23 <PovAddict> hmm for some reason the deadline is set to a few minutes (!)

17:23 <mweltin> deadline should be 15 min

17:23 <PovAddict> you better change that when you make them last an hour

17:23 <PovAddict> :)

17:23 <mweltin> that would be long enough for a WU to get back I figured.

17:23 <PovAddict> yep got it

17:23 <PovAddict> 36 tasks

17:23 <mweltin> hahaha

17:24 <PovAddict> I'm crashing them as they download lol

17:24 <MTughan> Nice...

17:25 <mweltin> well I make 1000 WU per generation and I have 411 users, that might be why you are only getting one work unit.

17:25 <PovAddict> but there's thousands ready to send

17:26 <mweltin> there should be max 5000 at any given time.

17:26 <mweltin> and <one_result_per_user_per_wu> is set to 1

17:26 <PovAddict> any idea why they crash?

17:26 <mweltin> not yet

17:27 <mweltin> I do have one theory right now.

17:27 <zombie67> big problem with short deadline

17:27 <mweltin> If the disk was full and I tried to write the files that make up the WU's they would all be empty.

17:28 <zombie67> it causes my other tasks to suspend/restart/suspend/restart

17:28 <PovAddict> I suggest you cancel all those workunits

17:28 <mweltin> and when expat tries to parse an empty file it crashes.

17:28 <MTughan> Anyone know how to read some German?

17:28 <PovAddict> yeah I have 0KB input files

17:28 <PovAddict> I suggest you cancel all those workunits

17:28 <mweltin> yoyo does

17:28 <mweltin> ok

17:28 <MTughan> I know. It's his project I need it for.

17:28 <mweltin> hld on

17:28 <zombie67> that triggers a "Too many restarts with no progress"

17:28 <mweltin> hahaha

17:28 <MTughan> All his message boards are in German.

17:28 <PovAddict> omg zombie67

17:29 <PovAddict> so tsp start/stop is making workunits from other projects get aborted??

17:29 <mweltin> upper right has a tranlation link

17:29 <mweltin> translation link.

17:29 <MTughan> Well when making an account, you can set the language there too.

17:29 <zombie67> I believe so, yes

17:30 <zombie67> I would like to see a deadline long enough to be able to download work without forcing panic mode

17:30 <PovAddict> I would like to see crunching take longer than download

17:31 <PovAddict> that would avoid other project tasks from starting again until all the batch is done

17:31 <zombie67> he is working on making a longer WU.  Until then, a longer deadline (2 days?) would help reduce start/stop/start/stop for other tasks

17:32 <mweltin> if I canel all workunits everyone still keeps there credits right?

17:32 <PovAddict> current credits yes

17:32 <PovAddict> but they won't get credits from workunits they have in progress

17:32 <mweltin> I'll increase the WU deadline.

17:33 <zombie67> no such thing as "in progress"

17:33 <mweltin> well they are bunk wu's anyway

17:33 <zombie67> when run time is .001

17:33 <PovAddict> lol

17:33 <PovAddict> mweltin: true, they aren't getting credits anyway because they error out

17:34 <mweltin> i dont' want to make the WU deadline that long.

17:34 <mweltin> but I'll double what it is now.

17:34 <PovAddict> my suggestion would be: don't generate more work until you have made it longer

17:34 <mweltin> the WU longer?

17:34 <mweltin> thats going to take a while.

17:34 <PovAddict> yes

17:35 <mweltin> I'm about a week out for that.

17:35 <MTughan> Damned thing... Why the f*ck does he not allow links for the first three posts?!

17:35 <PovAddict> yep, a while without loads of network overhead, starting/suspending other projects' work, filling server logs, etc etc

17:36 <mweltin> good point

17:37 <mweltin> its all part of teh learning process.

17:37 <mweltin> I'll just hurry up with the new WU

17:38 <mweltin> how are your WU's now PovAddict

17:38 <PovAddict> ?

17:39 <mweltin> I restarted my server

17:39 <mweltin> and made more workunits

17:40 <mweltin> I'm going to deal with the poor design for now, while I write the new WU.

17:40 <mweltin> I'm learning from it.

17:40 <mweltin> things are failing and I'm learing how to fix them, which is a good thing in the long run.

17:41 <PovAddict> workunits change state from downloading to uploading quite immediately

17:41 <PovAddict> I barely see the "processing" state

17:41 <mweltin> the alpha testers and crunchers really like their credits so I figure I'll give them some.

17:41 <mweltin> but are you getting more than one at a time?

17:41 <PovAddict> yeah, after tweaking my client settings a lot

17:42 <zombie67> fwiw, I moved my 14 machines to No New Work for now.  Too much hammering of my network, and possibly killing tasks for other projects.  I will be happy to get more work whenever you want to test out new applications or WUs.  Just post something in the forum or news section.

17:42 <PovAddict> SEE

17:42 <PovAddict> better not make more work until it's a reasonable length (even 1 minute is more reasonable)

17:43 <PovAddict> there is a big overhead uploading files

17:43 <PovAddict> BOINC does two requests per file

17:43 <MTughan> Download, then upload?

17:43 <mweltin> ok

17:43 <mweltin> all good points.

17:43 <mweltin> I'll drop the server for now.

17:43 <PovAddict> at least stop the work generator

17:44 <PovAddict> let the current queue drain out naturally

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17:47 <PovAddict> 130 hours left for my CPDN model!

17:47 <zombie67> w00!

17:47 <mweltin> ok, the work generator will not run again.  the project is up and waiting for this round of workunits to come back.

17:48 <MTughan> 130hrs left is a good thing? Holy crap...

17:48 <zombie67> I just finished my second a few days ago.  Both were almost 1900 hours on a Core processor!

17:48 <mweltin> then it will just sit ideal for the next few days.

17:48 <MTughan> I think I'll stay away from CPDN...

17:48 <PovAddict> 130 hours left and it's at 95.231%

17:48 <PovAddict> 2605 hours elapsed

17:49 <MTughan> O_O

17:49 <PovAddict> been running for a few months

17:49 <MTughan> &math calc 130 / (1 - .95231)

17:49 <Romulus> MTughan: 2725.93835186

17:49 <MTughan> That's about right.

17:50 <MTughan> Algebra is amazing. :D

17:53 <MTughan> Whoa... Is it just that the name is too long, or is BOINC not meant to scale up?

17:53 <MTughan>

17:54 <Romulus> <> (at

17:55 <MTughan> PovAddict, do you know which? mweltin: Has anyone ever seen that with your project before?

17:55 <PovAddict> resize the column?

17:55 <MTughan> Resize what column? It's not a table column.

17:55 <PovAddict> ah the button

17:56 <PovAddict> BOINC never resizes that as it should

17:56 <PovAddict> does WCG fit?

17:56 <MTughan> Yeah, that. Sorry for not mentioning that...

17:56 <MTughan> Yes, World Community Grid fits.

17:56 <PovAddict> try stats tab with the manager set to spanish :P

17:56 <MTughan> Although I am missing the right border.

17:56 <xcamel> so wha's the deal with 'boinc tray'

17:56 <PovAddict> [Mostrar promedios del ordenador] doesn't fit either

17:56 <zombie67> notice all the buttons are too long

17:57 <MTughan> Because the buttons scale up to the same width.

17:57 <PovAddict> xcamel: Windows-only thing to make "compute only when computer is idle" work

17:57 <PovAddict> I wonder how many people actually use that setting

17:57 <zombie67> I have that problem for many many projects

17:57 <MTughan> How the heck do I change the language in BOINC?

17:57 <PovAddict> it's in advanced/options for me

17:57 <xcamel> oh.. 'convenience items' just for win users

17:58 <MTughan> Oh, I skipped right over that... Stupid me.

17:58 <PovAddict> xcamel: does the setting work on Linux?

17:58 <xcamel> too bad they chose not to do the things us 'mega crunchers' have asked for over time

17:58 <MTughan> Hmm... Lotta good that did. Still in English.

17:58 <MTughan> Even after Mgr restart.

17:58 <PovAddict> needs restart of manager

17:58 <xcamel> like real tweaking abilities.

17:59 <PovAddict> o rly

17:59 <PovAddict> xcamel: I'd rather write my own client than keep trying to convince berkeley

17:59 <MTughan> Oh wait, I did "Spanish (Argentina)"...

17:59 <MTughan> Hehe...

17:59 <xcamel> I hear that..

17:59 <MTughan> There it goes.

18:00 <xcamel> modular client and manager - with every knob and tweek you could think of as plugins

18:00 <MTughan> Hehe... Screenshot coming up.

18:00 <PovAddict> client and managers are themselves modules

18:00 <xcamel> I'm tired of them 'dumbing it down'

18:00 <PovAddict> ...with lots of stupid cross-dependencies

18:00 <MTughan>

18:00 <Romulus> <> (at

18:01 <PovAddict> heh, with Aqua it's even worse

18:01 <PovAddict> or maybe it's the font

18:01 <PovAddict> or both

18:01 <xcamel> way way way back, astropulse used to run like a racehorse with it's a$$ on fire...

18:01 <MTughan> Uses Lucide Grande, as I know.

18:01 <xcamel> then seti came along...

18:01 <MTughan> English fits just fine. It's all fine and dandy.

18:02 <MTughan> What was astropulse?

18:02 <PovAddict> I think it was the first project ever when BOINC was in development

18:02 <MTughan> So what... SETI just isn't as optimized, or astropulse had smaller/simpler WUs? If it had WUs...

18:05 <zombie67> you can get astropulse WUs on SETI Beta

18:06 <PovAddict> I think xcamel was talking about something else...

18:06 <PovAddict> like... "then all the seti noobs joined and that's how BOINC is now"

18:06 <PovAddict> but that's just a guess

18:06 <MTughan> Could be.

18:08 <MTughan> Oh right... I was meaning to show the latest XKCD to my physics teacher... I thought he'd be amused. That's the gyroscope one.

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18:08 <MTughan> Hehe... We learned a few days ago that my physics teacher is actually a biology teacher.

18:08 <MTughan> 'lo Doug

18:09 <wdsmia> *lo MTughan and All

18:09 <MTughan> I should have a command to type that out... /wdsmia :D

18:09 <zombie67> anyone with cats or dogs will get a kick out of this:

18:09 <Romulus> Title: Penny Arcade! - Darkest Revelations (at

18:09 <MTughan> How about a cat and a dog? Double the experience?

18:10 <wdsmia> how about a dog, cat. and bird

18:10 <MTughan> One up... We have two birds.

18:10 <MTughan> I'm actually surprised it's not total chaos in my house.

18:10 <wdsmia> how about fish? do they count?

18:11 <MTughan> Don't have fish... Cat would enjoy watching them, I imagine.

18:11 <wdsmia> yep mine does

18:11 <MTughan> zombie67: That's a little unnerving...

18:12 <zombie67> "I would describe it as unrelenting."  *snork*

18:12 <wdsmia> you should see the bird chase the cat around

18:12 <MTughan> Oh, I'm so very close... In all, I have 143,736 points in BOINC...

18:12 <MTughan> The bird chases the cat around? Weird...

18:13 <MTughan> Actually, depends on what type of bird. We have budgies.

18:13 <wdsmia> It steals chew toys away from the 105 pound golden retriver

18:13 <MTughan> That's one daring bird...

18:14 <wdsmia> no fear

18:16 <MTughan> Well, off for dinner, if not to help prepare a bit of it now. Bye for now.

18:16 <wdsmia> cya

18:20 <xcamel> 'lo Doug

18:20 <wdsmia> Hi Jay

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18:21 <wdsmia> seems like your slacking abit on cosmo :)

18:21 <xcamel> eh?

18:24 <xcamel> looks like cosmo is down

18:26 <wdsmia>

18:26 <Romulus> Title: IMPORTANT - Testing for Stand-Alone CAMB Application Soon (at

18:28 <xcamel> hmm.. cool wishlist item... a popup or tab that shows the number of wu's in each project cache (simple line item)

18:29 <xcamel> ah.. got it..

18:29 <xcamel> project reset...

18:30 <wdsmia> It will be nice to have checkpointing

18:32 <xcamel> indeed

18:49 <MTughan> Ah, that was good...

18:50 <MTughan> No checkpointing in Cosmology@Home?

18:54 <MTughan> Nice... Mozilla made $66.8 million in 2006.

18:54 <Romulus> <> (at

18:56 <MTughan> Hmm... PovAddict: I notice that there's an RSS feed for IMPFarm@Home news, but is there any for the forums?

18:56 <PovAddict> nope

18:56 <MTughan> Nuts...

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19:04 <MTughan> The iPhone is really making a big splash with the big cell phone manufacturers...

19:04 <Romulus> <> (at

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19:05 <MTughan> 'lo e

19:05 <efc> hey

19:05 <MTughan> Just posted about a minute before you came... "<MTughan> The iPhone is really making a big splash with the big cell phone manufacturers..."

19:05 <Romulus> <> (at

19:06 <MTughan> That's from CTIA.

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19:23 <zombie67> rechenkraft down?

19:24 <PovAddict> yep...

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19:30 <xcamel_> Samsung breakthrough packs 128 GB on one flash memory card

19:30 <PovAddict> o_O

19:30 <xcamel_>

19:30 <Romulus> <> (at

19:31 <efc> in other news, the card is the size of a 8" floppy drive

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19:37 <PovAddict> xcamel_: does latest official BOINC linux build still use GTK 1.0?

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19:47 <efc> hmm, i wonder if i could reasonably get boinc to store its stuff on a flash disk to let my HD spin down

19:47 <sethy> PovAddict he doesnt know

19:47 <efc> not that a HD will ever spin down these days with every application pooping something on disk every few seconds

19:48 <wdsmia> efc you can try boincpe

19:48 <PovAddict> efc: flash disks have a limited amount of write cycles, and BOINC writes often...

19:48 <efc> yeah but its so high, and they are so cheap, i'd probably never hit it or care if I did

19:49 <xcamel_> did CFL get the flu or something?

19:49 <efc> thanks for the tip wd

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19:50 <xcamel> sheesh

19:50 <xcamel> PoV - I think it uses either 1 or 2

19:52 <zombie67> the key to flash life is to somehow force random write locations, so it doesn't rewrite the same spot over and over.

19:52 <PovAddict> yep

19:53 <PovAddict> there's also special filesystems for that

19:53 <efc> i thought the firmware did it automatically

20:12 <xcamel> some do, some don't

20:12 <xcamel> IIRC..

20:12 <Romulus> they just emailed me. Is there a way to grep and save as JPEG instead of normal

20:13 <xcamel> new apps up at cosmo

20:15 <wdsmia> your about 40 min behind times there jay already have one at 38%

20:18 <MTughan> Well, the Rechenkraft server is up, so he must've just shut down Apache.

20:18 <sethy> PovAddict, i need to borrow your intarwebs for something

20:20 <PovAddict> noes

20:24 <sethy> :(

20:24 <sethy> you can do it yourself if you like i dont need vnc or anything

20:25 <PovAddict> what do you want

20:25 <sethy> pm>>

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20:26 <sethy> ....

20:27 <MTughan> What were you needing?

20:28 <sethy> remember children dont do drugs

20:28 <MTughan> That was just about the most random comment I've heard...

20:28 <sethy> cocks?

20:28 <MTughan> I'm going to think of them as roosters here...

20:29 <sethy> ok but can we not talk about religeon here please

20:29 <MTughan> Who's talking about religion?

20:29 <sethy> i've had enough of AbsenceOfLight blabbering on about budhism for one day

20:30 <MTughan> Oh... Obviously another channel.

20:30 <sethy> yes

20:30 <sethy> nother serv

20:30 <MTughan> That would explain my confusion.

20:31 <MTughan> Anyway, what were you needing PovAddict for? I assume "intarwebs" means his site.

20:31 <sethy> no

20:31 <sethy> intarwebs is internets

20:32 <MTughan> You needed his Internet connection?

20:32 <sethy> a,k,a a series or tubes

20:32 <sethy> no

20:32 <sethy> tis ok it requires passwords

20:32 <sethy> n stuff

20:32 <MTughan> All right.

20:33 <efc>

20:33 <Romulus> <> (at

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20:33 <MTughan> WTF?

20:33 <MTughan> From efc:

20:33 <Romulus> <> (at

20:34 <efc> hehe

20:35 <MTughan> o_O "the Association for the Advancement of Plastic People (AAPP)"

20:35 <sethy> Sex Dolls?

20:35 <MTughan> You're sick...

20:35 <sethy> there plastic.....

20:35 <sethy> only wondering

20:36 <wdsmia> rofl

20:36 <efc> not the good ones

20:36 <sethy> :(

20:36 <MTughan> Haha! :D "Government officials, however, still refused to confirm the whereabouts of Thomas the Tank Engine, rumored to have been splintered into pieces by attack dogs in Manchuria."

20:37 * sethy changes psm to : <MTughan> You're sick... -=- 1: 4 - 3 :2

20:37 <MTughan> PSM?

20:37 <PovAddict> personal message - stupid thing next to nickname in MSN

20:37 <MTughan> Oh. I don't use MSN. ;)

20:38 <PovAddict> my initial thoughts were that it was great, now people would have a place to put their stupid crap and use nickname for what it is for: the NAME

20:38 <sethy> oh also pov i have a question i would like to ask you

20:38 <PovAddict> but nope

20:38 <sethy> as part of my

20:38 <sethy> adultery

20:38 <sethy> and because <3

20:38 <MTughan> Sicko...

20:38 <sethy> dude no

20:38 <MTughan> :P

20:38 <PovAddict> now people have parts of song lyrics and emoticons on BOTH nickname and psm

20:38 <sethy> 1)

20:38 <sethy> 2)

20:38 <sethy> Which is better?

20:39 <Romulus> Title: 9ct Gold Diamond Ring - H.Samuel the Jeweller (at

20:39 <MTughan> Getting married?

20:39 <sethy> engaged

20:39 <MTughan> Nice. Congratulations.

20:39 <PovAddict> lol

20:39 <PovAddict> lies

20:39 <sethy> i cant decide on which ring to get though

20:39 <PovAddict> tell your age

20:39 <sethy> engagement in uk is legal at 15....

20:39 <sethy> and i'm 16

20:40 <PovAddict> btw the second one doesn't load

20:40 <MTughan> May be legal, but how many are going to get engaged at that point.

20:40 <sethy> it does

20:40 <MTughan> PovAddict: Loads for me.

20:40 <PovAddict> infinite redirect loop here

20:40 <sethy> obviously the person i'm asking...

20:40 <MTughan> Try this...

20:40 <PovAddict> stupid thing

20:40 <PovAddict> works with cookies

20:40 <MTughan> Not sure what cID is, but it loads without it...

20:41 <MTughan> Oh.

20:41 <sethy> BAH

20:41 <MTughan> Sure enough. 4 cookies.

20:41 <sethy> gtfo mai cewkies

20:41 <PovAddict> it was redirecting me to noCookies.asp, and that one seemed to redirect to itself

20:41 <sethy> but srsly which is better?

20:41 <PovAddict> not sure

20:41 <sethy> MTughan: your opinion?

20:42 <MTughan> Depends on your girl. Does she like amethyst or diamond more?

20:42 <zombie67>

20:42 <Romulus> <> (at

20:42 <MTughan> Oh wow...

20:42 <sethy> they both have diamond though....

20:42 <MTughan> Oh, diamond accents... But the main jewel is amethyst.

20:42 <sethy> that pic looks like some form of micro-insect

20:43 <sethy> like headlice

20:43 <MTughan> It's wildfires in California.

20:43 <sethy> i know

20:43 <zombie67> I am at the top of the picture, SG bay area

20:43 <zombie67> *SF

20:43 <sethy> but LOOKS LIKE headlice

20:43 <MTughan> zombie67: Do you know how far up the satellite is?

20:43 <PovAddict> dinner ->

20:43 <MTughan> Bye.

20:43 <zombie67> nope

20:43 <sethy> i want your answer after PovAddict

20:43 <PovAddict> sethy: 2nd

20:44 <sethy> k

20:44 <sethy> MTughan?

20:44 <MTughan> Still deciding...

20:44 <sethy> k

20:44 <MTughan> I'd say the first appeals to me more, but both are beautiful.

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20:45 <sethy> nice parting......

20:45 <MTughan> Sorry 'bout that.

20:45 <sethy> cat?

20:45 <MTughan> Wrong key sequence, then Colloquy crashes.

20:45 <sethy> kays

20:45 <sethy> so 1) ?

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20:45 <MTughan> I'll have to pick up the logs for this and examine them...

20:46 <MTughan> Yes, I say 1.

20:46 <sethy> kthx <3

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20:46 <sethy> hey there PITS_9279

20:48 <sethy> make podcasts smarter - when reading link say dub dub dub instead of doubleyou doubleyou doubleyou

20:50 <zombie67> is gone

20:50 <Romulus> Title: coming soon! (at

20:50 <MTughan> Oops... Nice job there...

20:51 <sethy> pwned

20:52 <sethy> bee arr bee

20:52 <MTughan> What's saying everything out?

20:52 <MTughan> What's with*

20:53 <zombie67> ?

20:53 <zombie67> Me?

20:54 <MTughan> sethy said "bee arr bee", which is just brb said out.

20:54 <zombie67> ah

20:58 <sethy> back

21:01 <sethy> MTughan: i went for a number 2

21:01 <MTughan> Cool.

21:01 <sethy> :)

21:03 <sethy> i think i'm coming down with cold again

21:04 * sethy goes to codeblank

21:05 <sethy> MTughan, would you like to join me?

21:05 <MTughan> For what?

21:06 <sethy> ok do /server -m

21:06 <zombie67> an #2

21:06 <sethy> wait for it to load

21:06 <sethy> then do /j #codeblank

21:06 <zombie67> ;)

21:06 <MTughan> Or I can use the GUI...

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21:14 <sethy> :o

21:14 <MTughan> I can do what I want.

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21:14 <sethy> [02:14] <AbsenceOfLight> Does he know that this is the only channel?

21:14 <sethy> [02:14] <hexed> Hopefully

21:14 <MTughan> I disconnected from the server.

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21:16 <sethy> its the most random channel you will find :)

21:20 <MTughan> Which is why I'm not there anymore.

21:21 <sethy> </3

21:21 <sethy> >

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21:33 <sethy> fridge?

21:33 <sethy> sink?

21:33 <sethy> PovAddict knows where i'm going with this

21:33 <PovAddict> yay

21:33 <PovAddict> faster

21:33 <PovAddict> :P

21:33 <sethy> no

21:34 <sethy> i'll be kicked for excess flood

21:34 <MTughan> That would be fine with me...

21:34 <PovAddict> aww

21:34 <sethy> :(

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21:35 <MTughan> Ahh... Now we can relax. :P

21:35 <wdsmia> lol

21:42 <zombie67> 'The conventional view serves to protect us from the painful job of thinking." -- John Kenneth Galbraith

21:43 <MTughan> And a bit of time in my Inbox, and I've whittled down 40 message to 1.

21:43 * zombie67 is green with envy

21:44 * PovAddict notes 0 unread

21:44 <PovAddict> well, I have 55 unread in a folder with stupid chains

21:44 <PovAddict> like those silly powerpoint things that people keep forwarding to each other

21:44 <MTughan> The 1 is a daily weather forecast I get.

21:46 <wdsmia> "The world will never be free until the last king is strangled to death with the intestines of the last preist." -- Voltaire

21:46 <zombie67> "Isn't it interesting that the same people who laugh at science fiction listen to weather forecasts and economists?" -- Kelvin Throop, III

21:46 <xcamel> I love that quote...

21:46 <MTughan> Which one? There's two.

21:47 <xcamel> the second one

21:47 <MTughan> Yeah...

21:47 <zombie67> "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -- H.L. Mencken

21:48 <xcamel> "the only person who can be wrong more often than the weatherman and still keep his job is an economist."

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21:48 <MTughan> lol xcamel

21:49 <zombie67> "If you can't say "fuck", you can't say "fuck the government"." -- Lenny Bruce

21:49 <MTughan> lol

21:49 <zombie67> ;)

21:49 <MTughan> And in this case, I don't think he should be kicked. It's a quote.

21:49 * xcamel winds up...

21:49 <xcamel> and it's true.

21:49 <MTughan> As a normal user?

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21:53 <MTughan> &ping

21:53 <MTughan> &ping

21:53 <Romulus> pong

21:53 <Romulus> pong

21:53 <MTughan> ...

21:53 <MTughan> Oh, there it is.

21:54 <PovAddict> &math convert 55 mph to kph

21:54 <Romulus> PovAddict: 88.51392

21:54 <MTughan> &math convert 100 kph to mph

21:54 <Romulus> MTughan: 62.1371192237

21:54 <MTughan> See? 62.

21:54 <xcamel> keeps dropping the connection dead for about 1 second at a time

21:54 <PovAddict> "I think there's a 'sex for dummies' book in that series. Gives a whole new meaning for the RTFM..."

21:54 <MTughan> Oh...

21:55 <MTughan> You're only allowed to go 90kph in the States? Suckers... Freeway speeds in Canada are typically 100kph.

21:55 <zombie67>

21:55 <Romulus> Title: Volvo drivers (at

21:55 <wdsmia> "There's too much blood in my caffeine system."--Seen on a bumper sticker

21:55 <zombie67> that 55 quote was from the 80s

21:55 <MTughan> Oh.

21:55 <PovAddict> lol

21:55 <zombie67> now the top speed in most places is 65 or 70

21:55 <zombie67> mph

21:55 <MTughan> As it should be.

21:56 <zombie67> most people around here drive 80-85, traffic permitting

21:56 <freakazoid0223> 100 MPH =160.934

21:56 <Romulus> Title: metric conversions - online conversion calculators, charts and metric formulas (at

21:56 <zombie67> ...and then there is I5

21:56 <PovAddict> Save water, buy beer.

21:56 <MTughan> Apparently, at night, some people go 170+ on the 401. That's the busiest highway in North America.

21:56 <zombie67> going anything less than 90 is a good way to get rear ended

21:56 <MTughan> &math convert 170 kph to mph

21:56 <Romulus> MTughan: 105.63310268

21:57 <MTughan> freakazoid0223: I meant 100kph was 62mph, not 100mph.

21:57 <zombie67> "OK boys, just remember...  It's Rape, Kill, Pillage and Burn.  In THAT ORDER!"  -D

21:57 <MTughan> lol

21:58 <PovAddict> zombie67: "rape is such a bad term, lets call it surprise sex!"

21:58 <zombie67> "Some people care about the environment and some people care about the money they can make "caring" about the environment.  This country should wake up and see the difference. -- Audry

21:58 <MTughan> Oh, that's horrid...

21:58 <xcamel> well... off with me...

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21:58 <zombie67> brb

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22:00 <freakazoid0223> Mtughan: missread it, my bad

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22:03 <zombie67> I've been wondering how that was comming along

22:03 <wdsmia> "There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in his home."

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22:04 <wdsmia> - Kenneth H. Olson, President of DEC, Convention of the World Future

22:04 <PovAddict> wdsmia: says the one with... how many computers?

22:04 <zombie67> "Bigamy is having one wife too many. Monogamy is the same." -- Oscar Wilde

22:04 <MTughan> This puts new meaning to the meaning of dumb crook...

22:04 <Romulus> Title: Calling tech support for help with stolen printer | Tech news blog - CNET (at

22:04 <zombie67> heard about that!

22:04 <zombie67> on Buzz Out Loud

22:05 <zombie67> "We had been married long enough that Fifi's burning gaze and flaring nostrils told me _exactly_ what she wanted, so I hurriedly peeled off her tight satin dress, dispatched her lacy French brassiere with a flick of the wrist, her garter belt became a 'ringer' on the furthest bedpost, and as I sent her imported silk stockings arcing gracefully into the laundry hamper, I dropped to my knees and promised never, _never_ to go into town w

22:05 <PovAddict> zombie67: I figured a Java "Map" would be the best interface for the main code to access the news articles; the bad thing is it involves implementing this bunch of methods:

22:05 <Romulus> Title: Nopaste - No description (at

22:05 <PovAddict> also, your last long quote got trimmed

22:05 <MTughan> " go into town w" Cut off.

22:05 <zombie67> PovAddict:  *way* over my head

22:05 <MTughan> The quote?

22:06 <zombie67> let me try again

22:06 <zombie67> "We had been married long enough that Fifi's burning gaze and flaring nostrils told me _exactly_ what she wanted, so I hurriedly peeled off her tight satin dress, dispatched her lacy French brassiere with a flick of the wrist, her garter belt became a 'ringer' on the furthest bedpost,

22:06 <zombie67> got all that?

22:06 <MTughan> Yep.

22:06 <zombie67> ...and as I sent her imported silk stockings arcing gracefully into the laundry hamper, I dropped to my knees and promised never, _never_ to go into town wearing her clothes again." -- William "Buddy" Ocheltree '94 Bulwer-Lytton

22:06 <MTughan> O_O

22:06 <wdsmia> "A debugged program is one for which you have not yet found the conditions that make it fail." - Jerry Ogdin

22:06 <MTughan> Okay, that was... a bit of a twist...

22:07 <MTughan> wdsmia: So true...

22:07 <zombie67> "No deep-space meteors crashing down on our radioactive spiders infecting our blasts of cosmic energy mutating our this rate we're *never* gonna be superheroes."  "O ye of little faith.." -- Jason Fox and Marcus

22:07 <MTughan> With all the quotes, I can't keep up... :P

22:07 <zombie67> "In Vegas, I got into a long argument with the man at the roulette wheel over what I considered to be an odd number." --Steven Wright

22:07 <PovAddict> Program: a sequence of instructions telling a computer how to loop and halt unexpectedly

22:08 <zombie67> The casino industry works on the concept that 90+% payback is, in effect, printing money.  Meanwhile, the California lottery, running at 50% payback, is in trouble. -- Andy Banta

22:09 <freakazoid0223> There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics. - Mark Twain

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22:13 <MTughan> "I don't have a photograph. I'd give you my footprints, but they're upstairs in my socks." -- Groucho Marx

22:14 <freakazoid0223> Its better to remain silent and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt. - Chinese proverb

22:14 <zombie67> "It's not often that you get so much class entertainment outside your bedroom window... or outside your bedroom, period." -- Groucho Marx

22:14 <zombie67> "Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it is too dark to read."--Groucho Marx

22:15 <zombie67> Yes, evil comes in many forms, whether it be a man-eating cow or Joseph Stalin, but you can't let the package hide the pudding!  Evil is just plain bad!  You don't cotton to it.  You gotta smack it in the nose with the rolled-up newspaper of goodness!  Bad dog!  Bad dog! -- The Tick

22:15 <MTughan> "Well I thought my razor was dull until I heard his speech." -- Groucho Marx

22:15 <zombie67> I always get screwed by the system.  That's my place in the universe.  I'm the system's bitch. -- Drew Carey

22:15 <MTughan> "Die, my dear? Why that's the last thing I'll do! " -- Groucho marx

22:16 <wdsmia> one for <sethy...."No man should marry until he has studied anatomy and dissected at least one woman."- Honore de Balzac

22:16 <MTughan> Hehe... Nice one.

22:16 <zombie67> Found it!:  A facility for quotation covers the absence of original thought. -- Lord Peter Wimsey

22:17 <MTughan> "I married your mother because I wanted children. Imagine my disappointment when you arrived." -- Groucho Marx

22:17 <zombie67> That kind of talk tightens my colon. -- Frank Burns

22:17 <freakazoid0223> SPOOOOOOOON!!! - The Tick

22:17 <zombie67> "Ah! I'll get a hold of that flagpole and jump to safety!"  <*SNAP*>  "Ah! I'll bounce off that broad flat surface and be in a lot of pain!!!"  -- The Tick

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22:18 <MTughan> Hehe...

22:18 <MTughan> Who is the Tick?

22:18 <zombie67> "I am the *Tick*. Your brother has not done justice to your beauty with his words. You are the spitting image of Thelma from Scooby Doo."  "Uh..."--Tick

22:18 <zombie67> "Incredible. This jerk is too stupid to stop living."--The Tick

22:18 <MTughan> Groucho Marx quotes:

22:18 <Romulus> Title: Groucho Marx - Wikiquote (at

22:19 <MTughan> The Tick quotes:

22:19 <Romulus> Title: The Tick - Wikiquote (at

22:20 <zombie67> The Tick:  The funniest comic series in history.  also made into an animated and non-animated tv series

22:20 <zombie67>

22:20 <Romulus> Title: Tick (comics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

22:20 <zombie67> doh!

22:20 <MTughan> Yep, looking at that now.

22:20 <PovAddict>

22:20 <Romulus> Title: Looking for attractive people? Don't go to... | Oddly Enough | (at

22:21 <zombie67> Tip:  Only get the original stuff by Edlund.  The rest is crap.

22:21 <wdsmia> "If you'll excuse me a minute, I'm going to have a cup of coffee." -- Broadcast from Apollo 11's LEM, "Eagle", to Johnson Space Center, Houston July 20, 1969, 7:27 P.M

22:21 <PovAddict>

22:21 <Romulus> Title: QDB: Quote #17044 (at

22:22 <zombie67> The TV series starred Patrick Warburton (Puddy from Seinfeld).

22:22 <MTughan> lol PovAddict

22:22 <zombie67> what is ln-s?

22:23 <PovAddict> a better

22:23 <PovAddict> lol

22:23 <Romulus> Title: QDB: Quote #25625 (at

22:24 <MTughan> rofl

22:24 <MTughan> ln -s means symbolic link to me.

22:24 <PovAddict> exactly

22:24 <PovAddict> get the idea behind the name?

22:24 <PovAddict> :)

22:24 <zombie67> why better than tinyurl?  Seems to take about 30 sec to work

22:24 <freakazoid0223> "To start press any key. Where's the anykey?!" - Homer Simpson

22:25 * zombie67 smacks forehead

22:25 <PovAddict> because ln-s is 4 characters and tinyurl is 7 characters

22:25 <zombie67> of course

22:25 <MTughan> freakazoid0223: Nice...

22:25 <PovAddict> and because ln-s uses mixed case to be able to use shorter codes

22:25 <PovAddict> "Four characters is enough to encode over 20 million URLs."

22:26 <zombie67> so, I can be one of thouse guys with 40 stat charts in my sig!

22:26 <wdsmia> last one.... "Never raise your hands to your kids. It leaves your groin unprotected." --Red Buttons

22:26 <PovAddict> o.o

22:26 <freakazoid0223> I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.  -- Loudon Wainwright III

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22:28 <zombie67> another USENET gem:  "A good USENET motto would be:  a. "Together, a strong community."  b. "Computers R Us."  c. "I'm sick of programming, I think I'll just f*ck around for a while on company time.""--- Anon.

22:28 <PovAddict> lol

22:28 <freakazoid0223> They have the Internet on computers now!  -- Homer Simpson

22:28 <MTughan> Would that * be a "u" or an "s"?

22:29 <MTughan> It's ambiguous... :P

22:29 <PovAddict> why

22:29 <zombie67> "/EARTH is 98% full.  Please delete anybody you can." -- Fortunes file

22:29 <PovAddict> fsck in that context is to hide the f-word from word filters

22:29 <PovAddict> YAY

22:29 * PovAddict goes kill people

22:29 <MTughan> II know, but I can give him a hard time.

22:29 <freakazoid0223> If we don't try, we'll never know how bad they'll beat us.  -- The Simpsons

22:29 * MTughan runs away from PovAddict!

22:30 * PovAddict runs after MTughan with an AXE

22:30 <zombie67> ".signature longer than four lines: Forced to read "War And Peace" at 110 baud." - -HappyNet rule infraction and punishment per Kibo

22:30 <MTughan> Wait, I'm already a few thousand kilometers away from PovAddict...

22:30 <MTughan> Na na! You can't catch me!

22:30 <zombie67> "Articles quoted in followup, but no new semantic content appended: Poster is forced to watch a "Small Wonder" marathon on cable TV."--Leader Kibo Happynet Rules

22:30 * PovAddict messages sethy

22:31 <zombie67> remember this scam??  "Asking for people to send cards to Craig Shergold: Poster must answer all of Craig's mail." -- Leader Kibo's Happynet Rules

22:31 <PovAddict> MTughan: sethy's gf is on canada

22:31 <MTughan> sethy's not here.

22:31 <zombie67> "Asking what ":-)" means: Drawing, quartering, and turning sideways." -- Leader Kibo's Happynet Rules

22:31 * PovAddict points at msn and google talk

22:31 <zombie67> "Calling a newsgroup a "bboard" or "notesfile": Forced to memorize Webster's Ninth." -- Leader Kibo's Happynet Rules

22:31 <MTughan> Meh. Where is his gf?

22:32 <PovAddict> I dunno where in canada, but closer than me for sure

22:32 <freakazoid0223> Jesus saves... but Gretzky gets the rebound. -- Daniel Hinojosa

22:32 <MTughan> True, but if she's in the Yukon, that's still far away.

22:32 <zombie67> "Posting an article consisting solely of "Me too!": Poster's legal name is officially changed to "Me Too"."--HappyNet rule infraction and punishment per Kibo

22:32 <zombie67> "Posting flames outside of a *.flame group: Poster is allowed to read only groups about fluffy puppies." -- Leader Kibo's Happynet Rules

22:32 <MTughan> zombie67: I don't know if anyone's paying attention to you...

22:33 <quail> afternoon all

22:33 <MTughan> 'lo quail

22:33 <PovAddict> what's punishment for posting tl;dr?

22:33 <zombie67> I am guessing only Pov knows who kibo is

22:33 <MTughan> I don't.

22:33 <PovAddict> I have never gone on usenet

22:33 <PovAddict> but I kind of understood reading wikipedia article on 'kibo' long ago...

22:33 <freakazoid0223> Windows95 really does have preemptive Multitasking: it can boot and crash at the same time.

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22:38 <zombie67> Pov, sound familiar?

22:38 <PovAddict> what exactly?

22:38 <PovAddict> the last quote? not familiar but great

22:38 <zombie67> having to ram ideas down throats

22:38 <PovAddict> yep

22:38 <zombie67> A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he's married. -- H.L. Mencken

22:39 <PovAddict> I just sent that one to Ant Bryan, the guy behind metalink

22:39 <zombie67> metalink?

22:39 <PovAddict> just after he mailed apache mailing list suggesting they use metalinks for the downloads, and got a single reply containing "Fuck off"

22:39 <MTughan> Kick him!

22:39 <zombie67> *snort*

22:39 <freakazoid0223> ps a | awk '{print $1}' | sort -r | xargs kill -9  (Kill them all and let UNIX sort it out.)

22:40 <PovAddict> MTughan: shush

22:40 <zombie67> "Hardware:  The parts of a computer system that can be kicked." --Jeff Pesis

22:40 <freakazoid0223> lol

22:40 <PovAddict> without reason

22:40 <PovAddict> since it's usually software at fault

22:41 <wdsmia> ok lets watch the language

22:41 <Romulus> they are just working out ISPConfig, besides that not all games have to do package for g++ called?

22:41 <PovAddict> meh

22:41 <zombie67> "God is dead, and i'm contesting his will" -- gypsy

22:41 <freakazoid0223> gawk; talk; date; grep; touch; unzip; strip; touch; gasp; finger; gasp; mount; fsck; more; yes; fsck; gasp; eject; umount; make clean; make mrproper; sleep

22:42 <MTughan> Oh...

22:42 <MTughan> I've seen that before.

22:42 <PovAddict> 'gasp' exists?

22:42 <PovAddict> I gotta try that

22:42 <MTughan> Not here.

22:42 <PovAddict> I know all the others

22:43 <freakazoid0223> We are Pentium of Borg.  Division is futile.  You will be approximated.

22:43 <MTughan> GASP is a generic protocol encoder and decoder. It offers a complete scripting language (based on Tcl) which allows you to construct or analyze any packet of data based on abstract protocol definition.

22:43 <PovAddict> LOL freakazoid0223

22:44 <freakazoid0223> Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface.

22:45 <zombie67> "GEnie is quiet and polite, the equivalent of chatting in a nice hotel lobby,

22:45 <zombie67> with cups of tea and palm fronds. CompuServe is more like a convention, with

22:45 <zombie67> lots of conversations going on at once. ...

22:45 <zombie67> Usenet reminds me of a University Student Union Bar ('Look, yah, I mean what Keirkegaard was saying was, oh gross Sharon, no-one wants to see your tattoo, well gosh, if you're buying I'll have another pint')."--Neil Gaiman

22:47 <freakazoid0223> mighty morphine power rangers  -- a web searcher hitting my homepage

22:47 <MTughan> Ho, wow. Rechenkraft is either still down, or down again.

22:47 <MTughan> &cyborg morphine

22:47 <Romulus> MTughan: M.O.R.P.H.I.N.E.: Mechanical Operational Replicant Programmed for Hazardous Infiltration and Nocturnal Exploration

22:47 <MTughan> There've been better ones...

22:47 <zombie67> still.  and so is boincsynergy

22:48 <MTughan> &cyborg boinc

22:48 <Romulus> MTughan: B.O.I.N.C.: Biomechanical Operational Immediate Nullification Construct

22:48 <MTughan> Ooh... Nice.

22:48 <MTughan> &cyborg zombie

22:48 <Romulus> MTughan: Z.O.M.B.I.E.: Zombie Optimized for Masterful Battle and Immediate Exploration

22:48 <MTughan> Oh, this one...

22:48 <MTughan> &cyborg xxxxxxxxx

22:48 <zombie67> nice!

22:48 <Romulus> MTughan: X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.: Xperimental Xtraterrestrial Xenomorph Xperienced in Xpert Xenocide, Xecution and Xtreme Xcavation

22:49 * PovAddict restarts azureus after editing some internal files

22:49 <MTughan> I guess it has to do something for X.

22:49 * PovAddict crosses fingers

22:49 <zombie67> I have a map of the United States that's actual size. -- Steven Wright

22:49 <MTughan> &cyborg PovAddict

22:49 <Romulus> MTughan: P.O.V.A.D.D.I.C.T.: Positronic Organism Viable for Accurate Destruction, Dangerous Infiltration and Ceaseless Troubleshooting

22:49 <zombie67> "In Vegas, I got into a long argument with the man at the roulette wheel over what I considered to be an odd number." --Steven Wright

22:49 <MTughan> We have a troubleshooter! Whoo!

22:49 <PovAddict> ew

22:49 <PovAddict> phailed

22:49 <MTughan> zombie67: You pasted that one before.

22:50 <MTughan> &cyborg phailed

22:50 <Romulus> MTughan: P.H.A.I.L.E.D.: Positronic Handcrafted Android Intended for Logical Exploration and Destruction

22:50 <zombie67> I blame god for making me old

22:50 <MTughan> &cyborg microsoft

22:50 <Romulus> MTughan: M.I.C.R.O.S.O.F.T.: Mechanical Intelligent Construct Responsible for Online Sabotage, Observation and Forbidden Troubleshooting

22:50 <MTughan> Online sabotage...

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22:50 <MTughan> &cyborg Linux

22:50 <Romulus> MTughan: L.I.N.U.X.: Lifeform Intended for Nocturnal Ultimate Xenocide

22:50 <MTughan> Hehe...

22:50 <wdsmia> &cyborg MTughan

22:51 <Romulus> wdsmia: M.T.U.G.H.A.N.: Mechanical Transforming Unit Generated for Hazardous Assassination and Nullification

22:51 <MTughan> NULLIFICATION!!!! YEAH!

22:51 <PovAddict> ...

22:51 <MTughan> rpf;

22:51 <MTughan> Darn it...

22:51 <MTughan> rofl

22:51 <MTughan> &cyborg null

22:51 <Romulus> MTughan: N.U.L.L.: Networked Ultimate Learning Lifeform

22:52 <MTughan> Okay, that one's odd...

22:52 <MTughan> &cyborg xcamel

22:52 <PovAddict> file editing attempt failed

22:52 <Romulus> MTughan: X.C.A.M.E.L.: Xperimental Cybernetic Assassination and Masterful Exploration Lifeform

22:52 <zombie67> "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -- George Bernard Shaw

22:52 <PovAddict> plan b

22:53 <MTughan> &cyborg rechenkraf

22:53 <Romulus> MTughan: R.E.C.H.E.N.K.R.A.F.: Robotic Electronic Construct Hardwired for Efficient Nullification, Kamikaze Repair and Accurate Fighting

22:53 <MTughan> Can only do 10 letters.

22:53 <zombie67> "The problem, of course was that even though the information was coming a lot faster, the vast majority of it, having originated with human beings, was still wrong.  Eventually people realized that the Information Superhighway was essentially CB radio, but with more typing." - -Dave Barry

22:53 <MTughan> Kamikaze repair? lol

22:53 <freakazoid0223> This is the problem with Republicans: They plan two years in advance for a convention and two months in advance for a war.  -- The Onion

22:54 <zombie67> "Democrats are so stupid that if one of 'em fell into a barrel full of titties he'd come out sucking his thumb."   -- Will Durst

22:54 <wdsmia> ok next person that quotes tonight gets kicked

22:55 <zombie67> ok next person cyborgs tonight gets kicked

22:55 <wdsmia> and then there was quiet

22:56 <PovAddict> "ok next person that quotes tonight gets kicked" -- wdsmia

22:56 <zombie67> ok next person to post anything gets kicked

22:56 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o wdsmia

22:56 <PovAddict> lol

22:56 *** PovAddict was kicked by wdsmia (My foot itches... ahh... much better...)

22:56 *** wdsmia sets mode: -o wdsmia

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23:17 <sethy> wdsmia?

23:17 <wdsmia> yes

23:17 <sethy> i hear you kicked nic?

23:18 <wdsmia> yup

23:18 <sethy> oh ok

23:18 <zombie67> ok?

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23:18 <zombie67> is it?

23:18 <sethy> depends on why he did

23:19 <zombie67> I would tell you, but it's illegal to quote

23:19 <sethy> no its not

23:19 <zombie67> yes it it

23:19 <zombie67> is

23:19 <zombie67> that is why he got kicked

23:20 * wdsmia give a exempt to zombie67

23:20 <zombie67> ?

23:20 <sethy> getawayfree card

23:20 <zombie67> ah

23:20 <zombie67> "wdsmia:  ok next person that quotes tonight gets kicked"

23:21 <sethy> you just quoted

23:21 <zombie67> PovAddict:  "ok next person that quotes tonight gets kicked" -- wdsmia

23:21 <Romulus> ok ic where it has everything on your calender

23:21 <zombie67> "PovAddict was kicked from the chat room by wdsmia. (My foot itches... ahh... much better...)"

23:21 <zombie67> done

23:22 <change-me> but Romulus always quotes (and out of context) and nobody kicks him/it

23:22 <change-me> <- povaddict in disguise

23:22 <sethy> lies

23:23 <wdsmia> Romulus is a bot and a idiot

23:23 <Romulus> wdsmia: Error: You need to have PySQLite installed to use this plugin.  Download it at <>

23:23 <zombie67> I have been away fro irc for about 15 years

23:23 <zombie67> I am now recalling why I soured on it

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23:24 <zombie67> I thought bots solved the "power struggle" issue

23:24 <zombie67> guess no

23:24 <zombie67> not

23:24 <wdsmia> we dont kick many, only if it starts getting out of hand... or its pov :)

23:24 <PovAddict> blame misfit

23:25 <zombie67> EXACTLY!

23:26 <zombie67> he who defines "out of hand"....ack!  sorry, was about to quote.

23:27 <wdsmia> he who defines = the channel op's

23:27 <zombie67> similar to the golden rule

23:28 <sethy> land of the rising sun?

23:28 <sethy> i dunno i thought we're all speaking prophecies

23:29 <zombie67> he who has the gold

23:29 <zombie67> makes the rules

23:29 <sethy> i have some gold

23:29 <sethy> is it enough?

23:29 <PovAddict> I do too

23:29 <PovAddict> :)

23:29 * PovAddict looks at sethy

23:29 * sethy looks at knife

23:30 <sethy> STAY AWAY FROM ME

23:30 <sethy> YOU

23:30 <sethy> YO

23:30 <sethy> MONSTER

23:30 <sethy> !!!

23:30 <sethy> wtf is a you yo monster?

23:30 <PovAddict> huh?

23:30 <PovAddict> I meant what you sent me

23:30 <sethy> i know :)

23:31 <sethy> but i has moar

23:31 <sethy> also

23:31 <sethy> shit happens

23:32 <zombie67> did I mention I broke 100,000 on SHA-1 today?

23:32 <wdsmia> langage sethy

23:32 <sethy> sorry

23:33 <PovAddict> sethy: you will be

23:33 <zombie67> I was going to move on to uFluids, but there is a problem

23:33 <sethy> i has pix of you and i'm not afraid to use them

23:33 <PovAddict> :O

23:33 <zombie67>

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23:36 <sethy> i like the fact that

23:36 <sethy> there is only

23:36 <sethy> 1 solaris box

23:36 <sethy> at the bottom

23:36 <sethy> and i must

23:36 <sethy> stop doing this

23:37 <zombie67> wow, last time I saw that list, it was about 100 lines long

23:37 <freelarry> getting better ;)

23:37 <Romulus> <> (at

23:37 <zombie67> that list is crap

23:37 <wdsmia> *lo Larry

23:38 <PovAddict> the client versions?

23:38 <PovAddict> it was broken

23:38 <PovAddict> fixed recently

23:38 <zombie67> I have a darwin machine attached with 5.10.10

23:38 <PovAddict> so it doesn't have much data yet

23:38 <freelarry> lo doug ( i hope i get it right this time)

23:38 <PovAddict> zombie67: have you connected in the past little time?

23:38 <wdsmia> close enough

23:38 <PovAddict> more exactly, are you one of the last 107 connections?

23:39 <zombie67> oh yeah, let me look again

23:40 <sethy> DownThemAll Rocks

23:40 <sethy> no?

23:40 <freelarry> well wdsmia, you master farmer you, next build getting put together

23:40 <zombie67>

23:40 <freelarry> whats your take on number of hd's for game/inernet/home server needs

23:40 <Romulus> <> (at

23:41 <PovAddict> old wdsmia had a farm

23:41 * freelarry with 28+ workers

23:42 <zombie67> ok, let me connrct right *now*

23:42 <PovAddict> hey FL reaching a million on cpdn

23:42 <PovAddict> zombie67: list isn't realtime

23:42 <PovAddict> last update was at least 42 minutes ago

23:43 <zombie67> I understand, but still, l have a copy from a couple months ago.  It was 138 lines long

23:43 <efc> number of hds? one hehe

23:44 <freelarry> closing on it PovAddict - still a few wu's to finish then i'll look at it again

23:44 <PovAddict> sleep ->

23:45 <freelarry> efc - looking at performance if pov uses

23:45 <PovAddict> how much RAM?

23:45 <freelarry> 4 gig

23:46 <PovAddict> neat

23:46 <zombie67> pov

23:47 <freelarry> md cpu ram and ps in case already - have to buy the rest over the next few months

23:47 <zombie67> hang on a sec

23:47 <zombie67> look here to see the list:

23:47 <Romulus> Title: @page { } table { border-collapse:collapse; border-spacing:0; empty-cells:show } td, th { vertical-align:top; } h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6 { clear:both } ol, ul { padding:0; } * { margin:0; } *.ta1 { } *.ce1 { font-family:Arial; text-align:center ! important; margin-left:0in; } *.ce2 { font-family:Arial; text-align:center ! important; margin-left:0in; } *.Default { font-family:Arial; } *.Heading { font-family:Arial; text-align:center ! important; font-size:16pt; font-style:italic; font-weight:bold; } *.Heading1 { font-family:Arial; text-align:center ! important; font-size:16pt; font-style:italic; font-weight:bold; } *.Result { font-family:Arial; font-style:italic; font-weight:bold; text-decoration:underline; } *.Result2 { font-family:Arial; font-style:italic; font-weight:bold; text-decoration:underline; } *.co1 { width:0.4437in; } *.co2 { width:0.7665in; } *.co3 { width:2.0047in; } *.co4 { width:0.6055in; } *.co5 { width:0.9138in; } *.co6 { width:0.8925in; } *.ro1 { height:0.1783in; } Qty % Name Version 2761 2780.00% windows_intelx86 5.08.16 1442 1452.00% windows_intelx86 5.10.13 1088 1096.00% windows_intelx86 5.04.11 759 764.00% windows_intelx86 5.02 524 528.00% windows_intelx86 5.08.15  (at

23:47 <PovAddict> o.o

23:48 <zombie67> this is what the list looked like then

23:48 <PovAddict> percentages seem wrong :)

23:48 <zombie67> yeah, copy/paste error

23:48 <zombie67> the qty numbers are right

23:49 <sethy> rule 69 OTI: do not copypasta

23:49 <sethy> i think its 68 anyway

23:49 <sethy> 9*

23:49 <wdsmia> Im out of here cya

23:49 <sethy> ciao

23:49 <PovAddict> there isnt such rule sethy

23:50 <PovAddict> there's just Rule 22: Long stories are copypasta.

23:50 <freelarry> humm someones favorite number 69 but the answer is 42

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23:50 <zombie67> okay, look again

23:51 <sethy> I LOST MY LIST!!!!

23:51 <PovAddict> interesting percentages

23:51 <zombie67> I see what happened, the cut the sample size/time down to a milisecond

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23:54 <zombie67> the list is from whenever 5.10.19 was released

23:54 <zombie67> that is the latest showing

23:55 <zombie67> what is crap data, is the # based on the # of connection in the past <time>

23:55 <zombie67> My machine may be set to connect every day, while yours every minute

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