IRC logs of #boinc for Wednesday, 2007-10-24

00:01 <MTughan> New CAD and XKCD!

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00:03 <MTughan> And Rechenkraft is still down...

00:06 <sethy> so who has a pirateship?

00:06 <MTughan> I'm not part of pirates@home

00:07 <sethy> i didnt say pirate@home i said pirateship

00:07 <MTughan> I know. :P

00:08 <sethy> there is a modified map and game on halo3 called pirateships on the seven sea's

00:08 <sethy> its just territories on sandtrap

00:08 <MTughan> Oh. No, I haven't played or even seen any shots from Halo 3.

00:09 <Soul_keeper> UT is better

00:09 <zombie67>

00:09 <Romulus> <> (at

00:09 <sethy> i dont have qwakewars: ET yet :(

00:10 <sethy> y'arr

00:10 <MTughan> Well, off to bed. Bye for the night.

00:11 <zombie67> everyone read penny arcade today, right?

00:11 <sethy> bye MTughan

00:11 <zombie67> night

00:13 <Soul_keeper> UT3 comes out next month

00:16 <sethy> anyone know anything about the UK release on LOTR: The White Council

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01:50 <sethy> HOLYCOW

01:50 <sethy>

01:50 <Romulus> <> (at

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05:48 <ELGono> yippiiii

05:49 <ELGono> 1,508,342.41 cs

05:49 <ELGono> another milestone taken

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05:49 <quail> ELGono: hi

05:50 <ELGono> Y0 quail

05:55 <quail> ELGono: you have a video capture card

05:56 <ELGono> yep and i also have access to a lot of video equipment

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06:01 * freelarry thinks Romulus is having a bad id day

06:01 <ELGono> but thing i'll use mpg1394grab

06:02 <quail> ELGono: it just a capture script that will create directories not exist and capture from selected input to selected file

06:02 <ELGono> wich is a real cool but undocumented tool to get mpeg streams out of a DV (firewire) stream

06:03 <ELGono> for converting i'll use a hdv cam

06:03 <ELGono> cause it has better a/d converters than my capture card

06:03 <quail> ELGono: yep, but this script just for tv / video capture cards

06:03 <ELGono> and it runs on battery, not on my pc-ps

06:03 <ELGono> yep i know

06:04 <ELGono> thats why i won't use it :)

06:05 <quail> hehe, the script very unclean atm, but it just a days worth of work there

06:05 <quail> well not a day but a few hours

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06:19 <ELGono> conf file is always a good idea

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06:38 <CoderForLife> dang revolving doors

06:38 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

06:38 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 50.5F / 10.3C | Humidity: 96% | Pressure: 29.91in / 1012.8hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Today - Widespread showers early this morning...becoming scattered before ending by the afternoon. Highs in the mid 50s. Northeast winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 40s. Northeast (1 more message)

06:38 <CoderForLife> &more

06:38 <Romulus> CoderForLife: winds 15 to 20 mph.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy with isolated showers. Highs in the lower 60s. Northeast winds 10 to 20 mph with gusts up to 35 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.;

06:43 * CoderForLife looks at some Code

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07:09 <MTughan> lol, CoderForLife. Revolving doors aren't always the greatest...

07:16 <hawmps> 'lo

07:16 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

07:20 <hawmps> mornin

07:20 <MTughan> Same to you.

07:23 <MTughan> Sorry, g2g

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15:47 <xcamel> there, fixed.

15:47 <MTughan> Fixed what?

15:48 <xcamel> net links down

15:48 <PovAddict> his connection

15:48 <xcamel> romy back

15:48 <MTughan> Cool...

15:48 <xcamel> &weather 12074

15:48 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 52.0F / 11.1C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.97in / 1014.8hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; This Afternoon - Cloudy with scattered showers. Much cooler with highs in the lower 50s. Northeast winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a 30 percent chance of showers. Cooler with lows in the upper 30s. (1 more message)

15:48 <xcamel> &more

15:48 <Romulus> xcamel: Northwest winds around 5 mph.; Thursday - Partly sunny. Highs in the upper 50s. North winds around 5 mph.;

15:49 <xcamel> yup..

15:49 <MTughan>

15:49 <Romulus> <> (at

15:50 <MTughan> Beta of the new Crystal Clear...

15:51 <MTughan> Got some issues to be fixed, but I think it looks absolutely amazing...

15:52 <xcamel> must have been a power glitch here today -

15:52 <MTughan> Your computer shut off?

15:55 <MTughan> yoyo[RKN]: Thanks for your help earlier today. I'll see if I can download another WU and try it.

15:55 <yoyo[RKN]> in the forum?

15:56 <MTughan> Yep. jedirock is me.

15:58 <xcamel> nice, for a mac..\

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15:58 <MTughan> 'lo BB

15:59 <BadBarbarian> howdy

15:59 <MTughan> xcamel: I know that Linux can have some better effects, but considering you can't get Beryl or Compiz for Mac, I say that's pretty cool. Besides, you can't have that kind of transparency in Beryl or Compiz.

16:00 <MTughan> That's not a whole window transparency. Just a background transparency.

16:00 <xcamel> it looks good...

16:00 <MTughan> Nuts... When I sent him a bug report, I was going to ask if he could look at the BOINC Manager...

16:00 <MTughan> Forgot about that. Hehe...

16:01 <PovAddict> it's impossible to do background-only transparency on Linux

16:02 <MTughan> brb

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16:02 <PovAddict> since how can an external program know what is the background and work with all possible widget libraries?

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16:02 <MTughan> Want to see what Colloquy looks like just on the new stuff...

16:03 <MTughan> Not too bad... I think there's some more stuff that could be done, but it's quite nice.

16:04 <xcamel> bbl..

16:09 <MTughan> Who/what records conversation for the logs? Was it down earlier today? seems to be silent for about 8 hours after I left.

16:09 <Romulus> <> (at

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16:31 <MTughan> All right, I'm gonna get started on fixing up the web pages on BOINC...

16:32 <PovAddict> waitwaitwait

16:33 <PovAddict> hmm I wonder if you can use svn over a proxy

16:33 <MTughan> >

16:33 <MTughan> ?*

16:33 <MTughan> I think CVS does work on my network.

16:33 <sethy> why is there still no torrentz for sabayon1.1pro :(

16:33 <PovAddict> there are, sethy

16:33 <PovAddict>

16:33 <Romulus> Title: LinuxTracker (at

16:33 <sethy> didnt think of that, thanks

16:33 <Romulus> have you played with that version. .... and just angry looks, hehe

16:33 <PovAddict> still few seeders tho

16:35 <MTughan> PovAddict: Why were you wondering if SVN would work?

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16:35 <PovAddict> so you can svn update periodically

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16:36 <MTughan> Because stuff is always being added in the online repositories? Even in the web?

16:36 <PovAddict>

16:36 <PovAddict>

16:37 <PovAddict> and rytis will commit tomorrow a change that adds recaptcha to the profile creation page

16:37 <MTughan> What proxy were you thinking of?

16:38 <PovAddict> the one you use to bypass what your gateway blocks

16:38 <MTughan> Oh, JAP...

16:38 <MTughan> I don't know if I can intercept those calls.

16:38 <PovAddict>

16:38 <Romulus> Title: subversion: Subversion FAQ (at

16:39 <c0dewarrior> evening gents

16:40 <MTughan> Wait... Do all/most SVN servers support going over port 81?

16:40 <PovAddict> I doubt it

16:40 <MTughan> What about SSL?

16:40 <PovAddict> try it?

16:40 <PovAddict> depends on Apache

16:40 <MTughan> All right...

16:41 <PovAddict> it looks like they do...

16:41 <PovAddict>

16:41 <Romulus> Title: BOINC (at

16:41 <MTughan> Cool...

16:42 <MTughan> Well, got a certificate notification...

16:42 <MTughan> And it goes!

16:43 <PovAddict> it's downloading?

16:43 <MTughan> Yep.

16:43 <PovAddict> cool

16:43 <PovAddict> then you can run 'svn update' from inside the boinc directory

16:43 <MTughan> So... If I do an update after I've edited stuff, how does it do that? Does it overwrite my changes?

16:43 <PovAddict> it will (try to) merge your changes with the ones from server

16:44 <PovAddict> it's a line-wise merge; if both edit same line, there is a conflict

16:45 <PovAddict> and I don't have experience with resolving conflicts from the command line; TortoiseMerge from TortoiseSVN has a nice GUI for that :P

16:47 <MTughan> What the? SVN on OS X works, but on Fedora doesn't... Both have HTTPS support. "Skipped ''"

16:48 <PovAddict> skipped?

16:48 <PovAddict> weird

16:48 <MTughan> Command: svn up

16:48 <Romulus> Title: Revision 13951: /trunk/boinc (at

16:48 <PovAddict> ah - no URL to update

16:48 <MTughan> ?

16:48 <PovAddict> to download from scratch, it's svn co

16:48 <MTughan> Yep...

16:49 <PovAddict> to update, cd to the boinc directory where you already downloaded it, and run "svn update", no more parameters

16:49 <MTughan> Oh...

16:49 <Romulus> , now I have much use for ATM activity expires this month, and i went from full charge into them

16:49 <MTughan> "Skipped '.'"

16:50 <PovAddict> is that a copy you checked out, or from my tar?

16:50 <MTughan> Oh... Your tar.

16:50 <PovAddict> my tar doesn't have the svn metadata, and I also deleted some stuff you wouldn't need for the web part

16:50 <MTughan> Doing a fresh checkout.

16:51 <MTughan> There it goes. I'll leave it for now. Thanks for your help.

16:51 <PovAddict> ice cream -->

16:51 <MTughan> lol, bye.

16:51 <sethy> i had to read what MTughan said 3 times

16:51 <sethy> i thought he said fetish checkout

16:52 <MTughan> What the?

16:52 <MTughan> Oh, fresh checkout...

16:52 <sethy> fetish checkout

16:52 <MTughan> What the hell is a fetish checkout?

16:52 <sethy> like

16:52 <sethy> check out

16:52 <sethy> not a checkout asing a place at the supreme market

16:53 <sethy> like, a health and safety officer will check out a kitchen

16:53 <sethy> that sort of check out

16:54 <sethy> to 'look at'

16:54 <sethy> see if it meets standards

16:54 <MTughan> Is there any easy way to update an already built project?

16:54 <sethy> make it yourself

16:54 <MTughan> I meant besides installing over the previous one.

16:55 <sethy> ask pov

16:55 <MTughan> Ice cream.

16:56 <sethy> plz

16:56 <MTughan> No, he's gone for ice cream. Go get your own.

16:58 <c0dewarrior> I'd like some too

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17:01 <PovAddict> lolwut

17:01 <PovAddict> that was random

17:01 <PovAddict> I mean like all

17:01 <MTughan> I found the way to update the project.

17:01 <CoderForLife> hello all

17:01 <MTughan> 'lo CFL/Don

17:02 <CoderForLife> hey Michael

17:02 <PovAddict>

17:02 <Romulus> Title: ToolUpgrade - BOINC - Trac (at

17:02 <MTughan> That's what I found.

17:02 <PovAddict> remember to first compile

17:02 <CoderForLife> hey Rommie

17:02 <CoderForLife> hey Nic

17:02 <MTughan> It's already been done.

17:02 <c0dewarrior> hey c0dewarrior

17:02 <MTughan> You say hello to yourself?

17:02 <CoderForLife> that's recursive

17:02 <PovAddict> 5.10.27?

17:02 <MTughan> 'lo c0dewarrior

17:02 <c0dewarrior> oh yes indeed

17:03 <c0dewarrior> grin, evening gents

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17:03 <CoderForLife> hey c0

17:03 <CoderForLife> bye BB

17:03 <MTughan> "To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion."

17:03 <c0dewarrior> MTughan: but only if the recursive recursion is already defined

17:03 <PovAddict> recursion n: See recursion.

17:04 <MTughan> c0dewarrior: It's from a book.

17:04 <CoderForLife> there are 10 kinds of people in this world - those that understand binary, and those who don't

17:04 <MTughan> Oh, 5.10.27 came on just a few minutes ago...

17:04 <MTughan> I said that last night.

17:04 <c0dewarrior> sounded more like something out of "the big bang theory" series

17:04 <c0dewarrior> CoderForLife: but then there might be 10^x people in the world not understanding either

17:06 <MTughan> Now this is interesting...

17:06 <Romulus> <> (at

17:06 <sethy> jenn has her new house again!

17:06 <MTughan> "again"?

17:06 <sethy> wait its new it cant be again

17:06 <sethy> jenn has her new house!

17:07 <sethy> PovAddict

17:07 <c0dewarrior> jeepers

17:08 <sethy> hola

17:08 <c0dewarrior> halo

17:08 <sethy> can we not talk about religeon in here plz

17:08 <MTughan> Halo is religion?

17:08 <sethy> look at the game

17:08 <sethy> you think not?

17:09 <c0dewarrior> 0_0

17:09 <MTughan> I haven't played the game.

17:09 <sethy> HA

17:09 <c0dewarrior> halo (with exclamation on the a means hello... hi... howzit... yebo.... greetings.... and other forms of greets)

17:10 <sethy> i knwo

17:10 <sethy> wtf yebo

17:10 <sethy> and howzit

17:10 <CoderForLife> does anyone know if there will be a PC version of Halo 3?

17:10 <sethy> not for a while

17:11 <CoderForLife> you won't know for awhile?  =)

17:11 <sethy> there wont be one for a while

17:11 <sethy> someone will emulate it surely

17:11 <CoderForLife> ah

17:12 <sethy> well i've seen 360 comtrollers for the pc

17:12 <c0dewarrior> sethy: ehrm, it comes from parts of the world you haven't been to lately?

17:13 <sethy> hello, hi, halo, guten morgen, bonjour, salut, konnichiha, cseck, ?

17:15 <sethy> also hola

17:16 <PovAddict> whoa 200 posts on povray.general

17:16 <PovAddict> it's impossible to keep up with it

17:16 <c0dewarrior> sethy: alrighty, I yield :-p

17:17 <sethy> gutt

17:21 <xcamel> back for a bit

17:21 <MTughan> 5.10.27 out for Windows.

17:22 <Romulus> 2mg each core has 2 new computers ... DO REVISION!!! hehehe

17:23 <sethy> i dont have to do revision anymore

17:23 <CoderForLife> hey Jay

17:23 <sethy> i'm not at highschool

17:23 <CoderForLife> getting your share of rain there, xcamel?

17:25 <CoderForLife> ok, well, I'm off for the evening at wife request

17:25 <CoderForLife> cya back here soon

17:25 <MTughan> Bye.

17:25 <MTughan> Have fun. :P

17:26 <CoderForLife> certainly

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17:40 <sethy> I'M SO HAPPY RIGHT NOW

17:40 <sethy> i just found my glasses

17:40 * sethy dances

17:40 <PovAddict> meh

17:41 * sethy grabs PovAddict and makes him dance with

17:41 <PovAddict> did you download the new sabayon?

17:41 <PovAddict> ugh

17:41 <sethy> still downloading

17:41 <PovAddict> seeding lots? :P

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17:41 <sethy> still downloading.....

17:41 <PovAddict> there's lots of peers and few seeders, and you have fast net

17:41 <PovAddict> I'm sure you're helping

17:42 <sethy> down speed maxing 20kb/s

17:42 <xcamel_> /nick xcamel

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17:42 <sethy> at 2.9%

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17:42 <sethy> jay try without the /say

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17:42 <mweltin> PovAddict: quick question about Checkpoint files. Are you there?

17:43 <sethy> he's just gone for dinner

17:43 <mweltin> ok

17:43 <xcamel> gee thanks, sethy

17:43 <sethy> he shouldnt be long

17:43 <MTughan> No, he hasn't.

17:43 <PovAddict> sethy is lying

17:43 <sethy> :D

17:43 <mweltin> I guess I can direct my question to you all in general

17:43 <Romulus> turning off all the solder and lead the Argentine development division

17:43 <PovAddict> but I was about to say "oh noes, it's mweltin /o\"

17:43 <mweltin> yes its hapless me again.

17:44 <mweltin> I was going over the upper_case.C code and had one question.

17:44 <PovAddict> only one? you're good at understanding that code

17:45 <mweltin> It looks for a valid checkpoint file, if it finds one it does a seek of the input file, and a truncate of the output.

17:45 <mweltin> I get the truncation, but what is the seek for?

17:45 <PovAddict> opposite here, why does it truncate the output if it wants to append?

17:46 <PovAddict> uppercase converts an input file to uppercase... so if checkpoint says "I stopped at byte 100 last time", it has to seek to that place on both input and output and continue converting

17:46 <mweltin> I'm not sure, but a truncation works for my application.

17:46 <mweltin> ok.

17:47 <mweltin> Is there anything wrong with making hte checkpoint file and the inputfile (i.e. the result) the same file?

17:47 <mweltin> ok I had more than one question.

17:47 <mweltin> sorry.

17:48 <PovAddict> the input?

17:48 <PovAddict> dont you mean output?

17:49 <mweltin> The workunit, the lowercase letters that come in.

17:49 <PovAddict> how could that be the checkpoint?

17:49 <PovAddict> you aren't supposed to edit input files

17:49 <mweltin> ok

17:50 <mweltin> that was what I needed to know.

17:50 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o xcamel

17:50 <mweltin> back to work.

17:50 <mweltin> thanks

17:50 *** xcamel changes topic to "BOINC | stats & logs: Versions: all dev: 5.10.27 windows, Windows x64, 5.10.26 osx/darwin, 5.10.21 *nix/32/64 | Romulus (&) is the channel bot"

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17:51 <MTughan> Anyone know how to detect a network interface? One of my VMs isn't getting it.

17:52 <freelarry> ifconfig ?

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17:53 <PovAddict>,_We_Need_a_Neural_Network.aspx

17:53 <Romulus> <> (at

17:53 <MTughan> Ah, there we go. Needed the right arguments.

17:53 <freelarry> route or arp ?

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17:54 <MTughan> "ifconfig eth0 up" did it.

17:54 * freelarry scratches head and wonders where he came up with his answer

17:54 <PovAddict> "I *often* wonder what's so damn hard about rocket science..."

17:55 <freelarry> lol stick with explosive to throw it into air

17:55 <freelarry> hard part keeping body parts together when lighting fuse

17:56 * freelarry notes need longer fuse

17:56 <wdsmia> *lo All

17:56 <freelarry> afternoon doug

17:56 <MTughan> Ah, darn it... eth0 is up, but doesn't seem to actually be connected.

17:57 <MTughan> Yep, no IP.

17:57 <freelarry> try route or arp for more in

17:57 <freelarry> info

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17:58 <MTughan> "arp" doesn't return anything...

17:59 <MTughan> "route" just returns info for lo, not eth0 or anything else.

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18:01 <MTughan> Hmm... Anyone know how to make it look for a DHCP server? Wait a minute...

18:02 <freelarry> k - beyound what i know but looks like you need to set up a internet connection on vm

18:02 <MTughan> There should be a connection to it. Bridged right to the wireless.

18:03 <freelarry> eth0 not initialized?

18:03 <MTughan> Should be. I'm just wondering if dhcpd is running.

18:03 <MTughan> Not sure how to bring it up though... /sbin/service doesn't seem to be there.

18:04 <PovAddict> ugh

18:04 <PovAddict>

18:04 <Romulus> <> (at

18:04 <PovAddict> dozens of "!"s and "?"s won't get him a faster answer...

18:05 <MTughan> Oh, there it is... g2g for a bit.

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18:07 <xcamel>

18:07 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2007 October 24 - Ring Scan (at

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18:07 <xcamel> (saturn)

18:47 <MTughan> Back.

18:47 <PovAddict> <- fixed...

18:47 <Romulus> Title: List of recently connected client types (at

18:47 <PovAddict> isn't that too many 4.45 users?

18:47 <PovAddict> and way too many 5.02 users?

18:47 <MTughan> Probably.

18:48 <Romulus> what the hell do I do at 2-4 am

18:48 <PovAddict> you speak randomly as always, rommie

18:49 <MTughan> Strange... No OS X 5.10.24...

18:49 <PovAddict> there's two osx 5.10.26

18:50 <MTughan> That's PowerPC comps.

18:50 <PovAddict> right...

18:50 <MTughan> The only thing I can think of is that 5.10.24 is identifying as 5.10.20.

18:51 <PovAddict> nope

18:51 <MTughan> There are 54 of those on Intel comps.

18:51 <PovAddict> it's just few people are keeping up with the alpha versions

18:51 <MTughan> I just updated mine, then refreshed the page. No 5.10.24.

18:51 <PovAddict> no way that list is realtime

18:51 <xcamel> back again

18:51 <PovAddict> their DB server would be dead long ago if the list was real time

18:51 <MTughan> Oh, I see...

18:51 <MTughan> "last updated: October 24 2007 14:50:06."

18:52 <PovAddict> a minute ago... nice

18:52 <MTughan> Whoa, that was a while ago...

18:52 <PovAddict> it's a different page than last time I loaded it

18:52 <sethy> i've uploaded double my download on sabayon pro

18:52 <PovAddict> says 15:50:06 now

18:52 <PovAddict> sethy: I want your bandwidth

18:52 <MTughan> Oh, I see. It's every 10 minutes.

18:52 <PovAddict> looks more like every hour

18:52 <MTughan> Still no 5.10.24 on Intel OS X.

18:53 <sethy> how much you downoaded pov?

18:53 <MTughan> No, it must be identifying as 5.10.20.

18:54 <PovAddict> sethy: I downloaded whole file from mirrors

18:54 <PovAddict> then let azureus seed

18:55 <sethy> i'm being bandwidth friendly

18:55 <PovAddict> btw I'm downloading ocremix 1001-1600 torrent, getting it real fast

18:55 <sethy> •›› uTorrent :: #0 Sabayon-x86 1.1 Professional Edition (2.01 GB) :: 79.4 MB% :: Down: 1 (3) :: Up: 30 (78) :: ETA: 31.9 kB/s :: Ratio: 20h 40m :: Status: 1.94 GB «

18:55 <sethy> •›› uTotal :: Down: 0B/s :: Up: 0B/s «

18:55 <PovAddict> LOL

18:55 <PovAddict> that's all messed up

18:56 <sethy> uTotal fails

18:56 <MTughan> I can read it.

18:56 <PovAddict> ETA is a speed, Ratio is a time?

18:56 <PovAddict> status is in GB?

18:56 <MTughan> ETA is a time.

18:56 <PovAddict> ETA: 31.9 kB/s

18:56 <MTughan> Or should be... o_O


18:56 <sethy> its not even done 79.4%

18:56 <MTughan> ETA: Estimated Time of Arrival

18:56 <sethy> its not even at 4.0 yet!

18:56 <sethy> now it is

18:57 <PovAddict> and the percentage is in megabytes lol

18:57 <sethy> screw this

18:57 <sethy> hold on

18:57 <MTughan> Wow, that is totally messed up...

18:57 <PovAddict> it got 79.4MB, not 79.4%

18:57 <sethy> get me link for mirror plox

18:58 <MTughan> Still seeding Gutsy, uploaded 3.50GB. That's crap...

18:58 <MTughan> I'm getting no where near my upload speed.

18:58 <MTughan> s/no where/nowhere/

18:59 <Romulus> Damned pidgin didn't give me a 9/11 shirt at the beach

18:59 <MTughan> Upload is at 4KB/s, I can reach 400Kb/s.

18:59 <PovAddict> sethy: get DTA beta

18:59 <MTughan> &math convert 400 kilobits to kilobytes

18:59 <Romulus> MTughan: 50

18:59 <MTughan> &math calc 4/50

18:59 <Romulus> MTughan: 0.08

18:59 <MTughan> >_>

19:00 <sethy> ?

19:00 <sethy> dta?

19:00 <PovAddict> DownThemAll

19:00 <sethy> i am

19:00 <sethy> later

19:00 <sethy> after

19:00 <sethy> i mirror sabayon

19:00 <sethy> *poinces on ascii*

19:01 <MTughan> Pounces?

19:01 <PovAddict> if you get the dta beta I can make you download from ALL mirrors at the same time getting uberspeed

19:01 <MTughan> Does it just run under FF, or can it run as a separate app?

19:02 <PovAddict> it's an extension, like chatzilla

19:02 <MTughan> Nuts...

19:02 <MTughan> FF on OS X looks horrid.

19:02 <sethy> goh

19:02 <sethy> download

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19:03 <PovAddict> MTughan: there is an unofficial build using native widgets

19:03 * sethy plays mission impossible theme in background

19:03 <MTughan> Where?

19:03 <PovAddict> ...somewhere...

19:03 <PovAddict> I saw an (old) one, with screenshots, looked really good

19:03 <PovAddict> but hey

19:03 <sethy> i dont think its started downloading yet....

19:03 <PovAddict> hmm

19:03 <MTughan> Well, I'll try it on FF. See how it compares to Transmission.

19:04 <PovAddict> does camino support mozilla extension system?

19:04 <PovAddict> MTughan: DTA is a download manager, no torrents

19:04 <MTughan> No.

19:04 <MTughan> Oh... It doesn't help anyone download?

19:04 <PovAddict> well, makes *you* get the file faster, then you can load it into a bittorrent client :P

19:05 <MTughan> Well, I can always install it. I don't have any big downloads to do right now, but I imagine I will sometime in the future.

19:05 <sethy> just says percent: ???

19:08 <MTughan> What the? The Windows version of FF is the smallest download...

19:08 <MTughan> Windows is 5.7MB, Linux is 9.2MB, and OS X is 17MB...

19:10 <sethy> its taking too long to index

19:14 <sethy> dimension 165.00 Mb/???

19:14 <sethy> w'sa?

19:14 <MTughan> lol

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19:15 <PovAddict> sethy: you're scaring people away

19:15 <sethy> why thank you

19:15 <sethy> never knew i had such tallent

19:15 <MTughan> It was better when you left last night. We had a huge influx of people. >:)

19:15 <MTughan> >D

19:17 <sethy> if i had op right now, i'd kick you

19:17 <MTughan> Hehe...

19:18 <sethy> PovAddict!!!!!!!!

19:18 <MTughan> You want him to rebuke me?

19:18 <PovAddict> wut

19:18 * sethy << going depressed againz

19:19 <PovAddict> ohh

19:19 <PovAddict> about:cache

19:19 <PovAddict> try it on ffx

19:19 <MTughan> Interesting...

19:19 <MTughan> It stuck over to Camino too...

19:19 <PovAddict> try about:

19:20 <MTughan> Camino says invalid URL...

19:20 <PovAddict> does about:about work in Camino? doesn't in Firefox

19:20 <MTughan> FF gets an info page with about:.

19:20 <MTughan> about:about seems to be a help page.

19:20 <PovAddict> whoa

19:20 <PovAddict> about:cache?device=memory

19:21 <PovAddict> about:cache?device=disk

19:21 <MTughan> Interesting... Memory is stuff that's being held in memory, and disk is stuff that's cached on disk?

19:21 <PovAddict> GUESS

19:21 <PovAddict> yes

19:22 <sethy> toilet

19:22 <sethy> sink?

19:22 <sethy> pato?

19:22 <MTughan> That's odd... There's an image stored in memory that I haven't accessed for a few hours...

19:22 <sethy> tommatoe?

19:22 <MTughan> sethy: WTF is that?

19:22 <PovAddict> about:neterror?e=error&u=url&d=Your%20head%20asplode.

19:22 <PovAddict> MTughan: that's why Firefox eats so much RAM!

19:22 <sethy> because of my random guessing

19:22 <MTughan> lol, nice.

19:23 <MTughan> Camino's response is a bit more business like than FF's.

19:23 <MTughan> Camino says "Cannot complete request." FF says "Oops."

19:23 <xcamel> camb_v2 is downloading for cosmo

19:24 <MTughan> g2g again. I'm really busy, can't you tell? ;)

19:24 <MTughan> At least I have the next two days off school, then the weekend. :D

19:26 <MTughan> sethy: Tell AbsenceOfLight that it's because #codeblank is about nothing, and I don't care for it.

19:27 <MTughan> Anyway, off. Bye.

19:27 <PovAddict> MTughan: did you notice AbsenceOfLight's acronym?

19:27 <MTughan> AOL?

19:27 <PovAddict> *splodes*

19:27 <sethy> [00:27] <AbsenceOfLight> sethy: It's not about nothing.

19:27 <sethy> [00:27] <AbsenceOfLight> It just has no stated purpose.

19:27 <PovAddict> lol

19:27 <MTughan> sethy: All the same to me.

19:28 <sethy> dude i'm not forwarding messages, get back in there

19:28 <MTughan> Nope.

19:28 <sethy> @%%$er

19:28 <MTughan> :D

19:28 * PovAddict slaps sethy

19:28 * sethy gets knife

19:28 <MTughan> Ooh.. Can I get the Slapper?

19:28 <PovAddict> ew

19:28 * PovAddict looks at wdsmia

19:28 <PovAddict> I guess not

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19:29 <MTughan> slap sethy for wanting me in #codeblank

19:29 * SlapperBot mutilates sethy with a returning sidekick for wanting MTughan in #codeblank

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19:30 <MTughan> And I really have to go now... Flame me when I get back.

19:30 <sethy> ok bitch

19:30 <sethy> bye

19:30 * PovAddict throws fire at MTughan

19:30 <PovAddict> flaming you

19:30 <PovAddict> RUN

19:30 <MTughan> lol

19:30 * MTughan dons fire gear

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19:39 <PovAddict> zombie67: client_types script fixed

19:39 <zombie67> what does that do again?

19:39 <PovAddict> ...

19:40 <PovAddict>

19:40 <Romulus> Title: List of recently connected client types (at

19:40 <PovAddict> teh list

19:40 <Romulus> XP pro still haven't done any Coding using sparklines?

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19:43 <zombie67> Ah!

19:43 <zombie67> right!

19:43 <zombie67> yes, that is the way it used to look.

19:44 <PovAddict> isn't that too many 4.45 users, and way too many 5.02 users?

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19:48 <zombie67> and *way* too many 5.9.0 (crunch3r version).

19:49 <zombie67> 21%?  no way

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20:48 <zombie67> PovAddict:  you still there?

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21:02 <sethy> i can smell books

21:06 <MTughan> You can smell books? They have a particular scent?

21:06 <Romulus> development - talked to someone pn the same evil, I think

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21:07 *** xcamel changes topic to "BOINC | stats & logs: Versions: all dev: 5.10.27 windows, Windows x64, 5.10.27 osx/darwin, 5.10.21 *nix/32/64 | Romulus (&) is the channel bot"

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21:10 <MTughan> Ah, time to update...

21:13 <MTughan> Hmm... yoyo's not here, but the WUs are running fine.

21:13 <PovAddict> now I am

21:13 <PovAddict> zombie67: boo

21:13 <zombie67> ah!

21:14 <zombie67> question about a bug

21:14 <MTughan> Seems rather regular now...

21:15 <zombie67> When multiple WUs, all with the same due date/time, become potentially late, BOINC would run a few minutes on one, then a few minutes on another, etc.etc.  This ensured that all would be late.  It should be finishing one before moving to the next, so that at least some are returned on time.  Has this been fixed?

21:16 <PovAddict> what version are you on?

21:17 <zombie67> 5.10.8 linux 64 bit

21:17 <PovAddict> John McLeod said he fixed that problem a year ago, either his fix was never checked in or the bug was re-introduced

21:18 <MTughan> 5.10.21 is the latest for Linux x86_64.

21:18 <zombie67> right.  so I am trying to figure if it has been re-fixed, and if so, with which version?

21:18 <zombie67> I don't want to upgrade if it isn't re-fixed yet.

21:18 <MTughan> 5.10.8 was released June this year... So if it was a year ago that it was "fixed", then you should have it...

21:19 <MTughan> June 25, 2007.

21:19 <zombie67> I saw the problem with 5.10.8

21:19 <MTughan> Yes, I know. But that version was released less than a year ago, so it should have the fix.

21:19 <zombie67> should but doesn't

21:20 <MTughan> Yeah, I know... PovAddict?

21:20 <zombie67> JM7 brought up this on one of the lists, but I never saw anyone address it.

21:20 <MTughan> zombie67: Do you use Crystal Clear on any of your Macs?

21:21 <PovAddict> zombie67: if would be good if you can test .21

21:21 <MTughan> BOINC first...

21:21 <zombie67> Crystal Clear?

21:21 <MTughan> Mod for OS X. Guess not...

21:21 <zombie67> I don't want to waste time testing if the fix isn't in....

21:21 <PovAddict> I'd test it myself but I don't have that situation on my current queue

21:22 <zombie67> who would know?

21:22 <MTughan> Can you force more WU downloads by suspending WUs?

21:22 <freelarry> i hav in past

21:22 <zombie67> the trick is to get WUs with exactly the same due dates

21:22 <zombie67> RND is one that does that

21:22 <PovAddict> I do, but they aren't in deadline trouble

21:22 <PovAddict> oh wait

21:23 <PovAddict> got it, set my "connect every" to 10 days

21:23 <MTughan> Ah. Nice.

21:23 <freelarry> thats not posible i don't think

21:23 <PovAddict> now it thinks I won't connect till 10 days pass, so they're high priority

21:23 <MTughan> freelarry: You can tell it how much work it should download.

21:23 <freelarry> huh

21:23 <PovAddict> "connect every X days" != "get X days of work"

21:23 <MTughan> Oh...

21:23 <PovAddict> sometimes it behaves the opposite

21:24 <MTughan> Oh, I see. "Computer is connected to the Internet about every" in project web preferences.

21:24 <PovAddict> zombie67: how much time till it switches and runs another?

21:25 <MTughan> I see it in E@H at least.

21:25 <PovAddict> ah, I have "switch between apps" set to an hour!

21:25 <zombie67> I don't recall exactly.  Maybe the switch interval setting?

21:25 <PovAddict> changed to 1 minute, waiting...

21:26 <freelarry> some bad news PovAddict

21:26 <zombie67> how does one upgrade with linux?  if you unpack the download, it just creates a new BOINC folder

21:26 <freelarry> it appears i will have to shut down some systems as they run out of work

21:27 <freelarry> need to reduce pwr bill for a couple of months

21:27 <PovAddict> zombie67: isn't your current installation in a BOINC folder?

21:27 <zombie67> freelarry:  tell me about it.  It is finally cooling down enough that I can turn off the AC

21:27 <MTughan> Hmm... I wonder how BOINC would run inside a VM?

21:27 <zombie67> yes

21:27 <PovAddict> zombie67: run the .sh from the parent directory of that BOINC folder

21:28 <freelarry> lol not that but have to help wife with her bills

21:28 <PovAddict> freelarry: well... nothing particularly important going on....

21:28 <zombie67> it doesn't just create a second BOINC folder?

21:28 <xcamel> boo..

21:29 <PovAddict> zombie67: wtf? you can't have two folders called the same

21:29 <MTughan> Boo to you too. :P

21:29 <Romulus> looks like i did a `./configue && make && make perfectly with me then...

21:29 <PovAddict> zombie67: in any case, remember to stop boinc before letting the installer overwrite any file

21:29 <zombie67> I know that.  I assumed it would work like my mac where if foo already exists, it would create foo-1

21:30 <PovAddict> it will write to ./BOINC/whatever

21:30 <PovAddict> without even caring if it already exists

21:30 <zombie67> ouch!

21:30 <PovAddict> foo-1 thing is a feature of the GUI

21:30 <MTughan> Although it is nice.

21:30 <PovAddict> I haven't seen any CLI program do that

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21:31 <PovAddict> btw my WUs still aren't switching

21:31 <zombie67> okay, I'll give it a shot.  brb

21:37 <zombie67> didn't work

21:37 <zombie67> sh foo

21:38 <zombie67> seems to have worked

21:38 <zombie67> yet when I start boincmanager, still shows 5.19.8

21:39 <zombie67> 5.10.8

21:39 <PovAddict> well, I'm bringing my client back to sensible settings

21:40 <zombie67> I am thinking the sh command is failing, because the folder BOINC already exists

21:40 <PovAddict> I always upgrade it that way

21:41 <MTughan> PovAddict: Am I able to control BOINC on another machine with the manager on my machine?

21:41 <PovAddict> yes

21:42 <PovAddict>

21:42 <Romulus> Title: RpcAuth - BOINC - Trac (at

21:42 <MTughan> Ah, I was wondering what to use for a password...

21:43 <PovAddict> the contents of gui_rpc_auth.cfg, but I bet the client isn't allowing remote connections anyway

21:43 <MTughan> It has to be configured for that?

21:43 * MTughan reads on...

21:46 <MTughan> I still can't seem to connect...

21:46 <PovAddict> did you add a remote_hosts.cfg?

21:46 <MTughan> Yep.

21:46 <zombie67> nope.  install still not working.  Still 5.10.8

21:47 <PovAddict> editing either gui_rpc_auth.cfg or remote_hosts.cfg needs a client restart

21:47 <Romulus> as weird as hell but i got 6 machines in it - and I had to say

21:47 <MTughan> I restarted.

21:47 <PovAddict> what error do you get?

21:47 <MTughan> Not the machine, but the client.

21:47 <zombie67> who you?

21:47 <MTughan> BOINC is unable to find a client, or something like that.

21:47 <zombie67> MT:  do you have a firewall running?

21:47 <zombie67> on the remote machine?

21:48 <MTughan> On the remote machine? Not sure...

21:48 <MTughan> "BOINC Manager is not able to connect to a BOINC client.":

21:48 <zombie67> FWIW, I was never able to get the remote client thing working with BOINCmgr.

21:48 <PovAddict> wow

21:49 <PovAddict> a microSD with 16 gig, USD 99

21:49 <PovAddict> 15mm × 11mm × 0.7mm

21:49 <MTughan> Nice.

21:49 <PovAddict>

21:49 <Romulus> <> (at

21:49 <MTughan> I have no idea where to find firewall settings on KDE...

21:50 <MTughan> Yeah, microSD is incredibly small.

21:50 <PovAddict> it's probably iptables, you probably need to install a separate app to graphically konfigure it

21:50 <PovAddict> (beware of the pun)

21:51 <MTughan> lol

21:52 <MTughan> Found it. Yes, the firewall is on. Do we know what port it uses?

21:52 <MTughan> BOINC, that is.

21:52 <PovAddict> 31416

21:53 <PovAddict> (pi)

21:53 <MTughan> lol, nice.

21:53 <PovAddict> used to use 1000-something

21:53 <PovAddict> and even registered it in IANA

21:53 <MTughan> Okay, 'nuther try...

21:53 <PovAddict> but Windows services were sometimes taking over that port, causing problems for many users

21:54 <MTughan> Nuts... Took a bit longer, but same error.

21:54 <PovAddict> berkeley requested IANA for another port, IANA didn't reply quick, BOINC took 31416 without registration

21:54 <PovAddict> that's what I read about the story...

21:56 <MTughan> Gonna try the other way, from the VM to my Mac. I have a bit more control on here.

21:56 <PovAddict> are you using bridged mode?

21:56 <PovAddict> for VM network

21:56 <MTughan> In VMware? Yeah.

21:57 <MTughan> Not NAT.

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21:59 <MTughan> Nice... Connecting the other way works on the first try. Gives me the impression that the BOINC client didn't restart...

22:00 <zombie67> tried rebooting, reinstalling, still 5.10.8

22:00 <PovAddict> zombie67: o_O

22:00 <PovAddict> you sure you aren't running 5.10.8 installer?

22:00 <zombie67> yep.  even re-downloaded it

22:01 <zombie67> is it perhaps installing it in some other location than ./ ?

22:01 <PovAddict> I doubt it...

22:01 <PovAddict> is it the debug installer?

22:01 <zombie67> ?

22:01 <Romulus> lol darwin award >> Man Burns House While Trying To Kill Yellow Jackets

22:01 <zombie67> it is the one from teh download page

22:02 <PovAddict> there's and for all versions

22:02 <PovAddict> debug installer uses a different directory for some strange reason

22:03 <MTughan> Okay, turning off the firewall on the VM doesn't help...

22:04 <zombie67> it is

22:04 <MTughan> And BOINC's definitely not running... CPU usage is almost 0.

22:06 <PovAddict> downloading it

22:06 <PovAddict> no linux x64 machine to test it on, but the installer alone will run on cygwin

22:06 <MTughan> Haha! Got it!

22:07 <MTughan> I think it was because the GUI was running on the other machine. Just running the client and trying to connect to that worked.

22:07 <PovAddict> weird

22:07 <PovAddict> works with multiple GUI RPC connections

22:12 <PovAddict> zombie67: the installer definitely contains the correct version

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22:14 <zombie67> trying to download it on a nother machine and thumb drive it over

22:15 <MTughan> Nuts... Trying to run BoincView and see if it's any good. It says that Wine is supported, although not fully tested. But I can't get it to show.

22:16 <sethy> use beer, wine is for girls

22:16 * sethy walks away

22:16 <MTughan> It says that WINE is supported.

22:16 <PovAddict> and I'm sure beer isn't

22:17 <MTughan> Better? Instead of a noun, it's not an acronym.

22:17 <MTughan> now*

22:18 <zombie67> nope

22:18 <PovAddict> :-\

22:18 <zombie67> I wonder if it really is .21, but the help panel just wasn't updated?

22:18 <PovAddict> you sure boinc is stopped?

22:19 <MTughan> Possible, but unlikely.

22:19 <zombie67> yep

22:19 <MTughan> If you want, I can stop mine and then boot up the manager, see what it says here.

22:19 <zombie67> I would appreciate it!

22:19 <zombie67> I did "sh -v ./bo....."

22:20 * sethy walks back

22:20 <sethy> who's supporting ninja day?

22:20 <zombie67> just so I could see it is really doing

22:20 <MTughan> 5.10.21. Sorry.

22:20 <zombie67> aargh!

22:20 <zombie67> I am going to move my .8 install to a new name, and see what sh does now.

22:21 * sethy looks @ PovAddict

22:22 * sethy notices

22:22 <zombie67> wow.  created a new boinc folder with 5.10.8

22:23 <sethy> why am i only getting 350kB/s?

22:23 <MTughan> Down?

22:23 <MTughan> Or up?

22:23 <sethy> yes

22:23 <sethy> no

22:23 <sethy> down

22:23 <MTughan> That's not bad. I hit a ceiling of about 500KB/s.

22:23 <sethy> i should be getting 760kB/s

22:23 <MTughan> Oh...

22:23 <zombie67> I am going to try downloading it from the archive instead

22:24 <MTughan> What are you downloading and what are you using to download it?

22:24 <sethy> that shouldnt be a problem

22:24 <sethy> downloading linux iso via mirror

22:24 <sethy> over DTA

22:24 <MTughan> What you're downloading could affect it. Depending on how many other people are downloading it.

22:24 <MTughan> Even servers have limited bandwidth.

22:25 <sethy> i know

22:25 <sethy> but it seems capped at 350 on everything i dl

22:25 <MTughan> Oh...

22:29 <sethy> google doesnt have limited bandwidth

22:29 <sethy> because they are the internet

22:30 <MTughan> Yes they do. It's just incredibly high.

22:30 <sethy> exactly

22:30 <sethy> and when is someone gonna break that?

22:30 <PovAddict> sethy: I told you to get DTA beta

22:30 <PovAddict> so you could use all mirrors @ same time easily

22:30 <MTughan> When everyone tries to DoS Google at the same time.

22:30 <sethy> NOW you tell me it supports multiple mirrors

22:31 <MTughan> He told you that before, as I remember...

22:31 <PovAddict> PovAddict: if you get the dta beta I can make you download from ALL mirrors at the same time getting uberspeed

22:31 <sethy> i've lost how to get beta

22:31 <MTughan> One sec...

22:31 <PovAddict>

22:32 <MTughan>

22:32 <MTughan> Darn you...

22:32 <Romulus> <> (at

22:32 <Romulus> <> (at

22:32 <PovAddict> I WIN

22:32 <PovAddict> (>^_^)>

22:32 <PovAddict> <(^_^<)

22:32 <sethy> PovAddict is epic win

22:32 <MTughan> I need to take off the SAM from Crystal Clear... It's slowing me down instead of helping me.

22:32 <zombie67> ok

22:32 <zombie67> I did a moved BOINC to old_BOINC

22:33 <zombie67> then sh boinc....

22:33 <zombie67> then went into the newly created BOINC folder

22:33 <PovAddict> then cd BOINC; ./boinc --version

22:33 <MTughan> 5.10.21?

22:33 <zombie67> boinc --version shows 5.10.21

22:33 <MTughan> So only the GUI hasn't been updated...

22:33 <PovAddict> boincmgr --version?

22:34 <zombie67> that didn't show as an option

22:34 <PovAddict> MTughan: the version number shown on status bar is the version of the client is connected to

22:34 <zombie67> let me try

22:34 <MTughan> Oh.

22:34 <MTughan> Oh yeah, on the status bar. I'm thinking the about window.

22:34 <MTughan> That's the manager version.

22:34 <PovAddict> that one definitely is mgr version

22:35 <MTughan> brb

22:36 <zombie67> ah!

22:36 <zombie67> the "connected to" in lower right shows 5.10.21

22:36 <zombie67> help shows 5.10.8

22:36 <sethy> so what am i doing pov?

22:36 <PovAddict> sethy: got beta?

22:36 <sethy> ya

22:36 <PovAddict> btw how much did you download so far?

22:36 <sethy> didnt....

22:37 <PovAddict> before installing beta

22:37 <sethy> didnt...

22:37 <zombie67> so now what?

22:37 <sethy> it was just doing ###.##MB / ???

22:37 <PovAddict> sethy: downloading linux iso via mirror

22:37 <PovAddict> sethy: over DTA

22:37 <zombie67> does the manager GUI have it's own version number?

22:37 <PovAddict> zombie67: yeah, but I thought it would be updated as well

22:38 <PovAddict> I g2g soon

22:38 <zombie67> do I care what version the manager is?

22:38 <PovAddict> not really

22:38 <PovAddict> is it still switching tasks?

22:38 <zombie67> should I tell someone?

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22:38 <zombie67> don't know about switching tasks.  that will take a day or so

22:38 <zombie67> to test

22:39 <PovAddict> I thought it crunched on one for some MINUTES, then switched

22:39 * MTughan has cherry pie

22:39 <sethy> ok

22:39 <sethy> so its downloading from 1 mirror

22:39 <PovAddict> sethy: stop it

22:39 <PovAddict> sethy: use this

22:39 <sethy> no?

22:40 <Romulus> <> (at

22:40 <sethy> its doing ok now

22:40 <sethy> i was being a whore using japans server instead of australias

22:40 <sethy> now i'm getting 870kb/s

22:40 <MTughan> That makes you a whore?

22:40 <sethy> yes

22:40 <sethy> because

22:40 <sethy> i love japan

22:40 <MTughan> ...

22:41 <zombie67> should I send something to the alpha list?

22:41 <PovAddict> yeah mention the version number for mgr is wrong

22:41 <PovAddict> *and* watch your tasks for the silly-switching

22:42 <sethy> all your base are belong to me

22:43 <MTughan> PovAddict: So theoretically, with the right settings, I could control BOINC on your computer with BOINC here.

22:43 <PovAddict> correct

22:43 <MTughan> Cool...

22:43 <PovAddict> means I need to configure boinc to allow the connection, and forward port in router

22:43 <PovAddict> but latency will hurt

22:43 <PovAddict> in a particular way...

22:44 <PovAddict> imagine ping is 250ms

22:44 <MTughan> I can see some of the advantages in doing a system like that. Maybe not my computer to yours, but that kind of thing.

22:44 <MTughan> lol

22:44 <PovAddict> the manager will be unresponsive 25% of the time

22:44 <sethy> who wants a bandwidth race?

22:44 <sethy> :D

22:44 <sethy> <3

22:44 * sethy looks at PovAddict

22:44 <PovAddict> stfu sethy

22:44 <PovAddict> mine sucks <.<

22:44 <sethy> :(

22:44 <MTughan> sethy: I'll take you on.

22:44 <sethy> MTughan?

22:44 <Romulus> then get it to compile the code, and even peta.

22:44 <sethy> oh

22:44 <sethy> ?

22:44 <PovAddict> no way I can compete with you

22:45 <MTughan> What are we downloading?

22:45 <sethy> pov look for something to download

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22:45 <sethy> something hefty

22:45 <MTughan> I'll get dTa working here...

22:45 <sethy> whoever said it had to be over DTA?

22:45 <PovAddict> ok... you start as soon as I post link, so time to get the URL on your download manager counts too... click fast :)

22:45 <MTughan> Hold on...

22:45 <PovAddict> sure

22:46 <MTughan> How do I download something with dTa anyway?

22:46 <sethy> wait i'm not ready just talking to jenn amo about whats happening

22:46 <PovAddict> MTughan: use something you're used to

22:46 <MTughan> That means one stream...

22:46 <sethy> PovAddict: whats the file?

22:47 <sethy> torrent or what?

22:47 <PovAddict> no, I'll post an old BOINC version

22:47 <MTughan> All right. Camino will do.

22:47 <sethy> ....

22:47 <PovAddict> just for downloading, not like it's useful

22:47 <MTughan> I'm ready then.

22:47 <PovAddict> 8.9MB

22:47 <PovAddict> ok can I post then?

22:47 <sethy> that sucks

22:48 <sethy> no

22:48 <MTughan> You want a few gigabytes?

22:48 <sethy> you cant post

22:48 <sethy> something more than 700meg

22:48 <PovAddict> we can do a bigger file later

22:48 <sethy> NO

22:48 <sethy> NAO

22:48 <MTughan> More than 700MB? Wow...

22:48 <PovAddict> I want to be awake when the race ends

22:48 <sethy> oh god

22:48 <sethy> post link then

22:48 <PovAddict> lol

22:48 <PovAddict> again

22:48 <PovAddict> we can do a bigger file later

22:49 <PovAddict> linky:

22:49 <sethy> remind me later then

22:49 <Romulus> <> (at

22:49 <MTughan> Done.

22:49 <PovAddict> download finished?

22:49 <MTughan> Yep.

22:49 <PovAddict> crap

22:49 <MTughan> You want MD5s?

22:49 <sethy> done

22:49 <PovAddict> I underestimated your bw

22:50 <MTughan> MD5s or SHA-1s.

22:50 <PovAddict> not so fair comparison if both did it so fast...

22:50 <PovAddict> another:

22:50 <sethy> LATER


22:50 <PovAddict> k...

22:50 <PovAddict> 44MB?

22:50 <MTughan> Do we have a 100MB file?

22:50 <sethy> TOO SMALL

22:51 <PovAddict> 702MB?

22:51 <sethy> whats that?

22:51 <MTughan> Torrent, or HTTP?

22:51 <sethy> torrent plox

22:51 <MTughan> What's "plox"?

22:51 <sethy> please

22:51 <PovAddict> a retarded way of saying please

22:51 <MTughan> Oh...

22:51 <sethy> WETAWDED?

22:51 <PovAddict> lol

22:51 <MTughan> Torrent's fine with me.

22:51 <MTughan> sethy: I'm not retarded.

22:52 <sethy> who?

22:52 <sethy> can has 1.5Gb file?

22:52 <PovAddict> 697MB torrent going:

22:52 <PovAddict> k?

22:52 <sethy> no

22:52 <PovAddict> O CMON

22:52 <PovAddict> it's enough

22:52 <sethy> FINE

22:52 <MTughan> sethy: I've got all tomorrow.

22:53 <sethy> i dont

22:53 <MTughan> Afternoon?

22:53 * sethy waits for link

22:53 <PovAddict>

22:53 <PovAddict> go

22:53 <PovAddict> gogogogo

22:53 <sethy> going

22:54 <MTughan> Same.

22:54 <sethy> fuck you error>>

22:54 <sethy> OHSHIT

22:54 <PovAddict> did it start downloading already, for either of you?

22:54 <sethy> because i'm trying to save to the unplugged external

22:54 <sethy> ...

22:54 <MTughan> I'm getting 210KB/s down.

22:55 <PovAddict> lol

22:55 <MTughan> Gonna take an hour at this rate... >_>

22:56 <MTughan> Now we're going... 330KB/s down.

22:56 <zombie67> pov, thanks for the help

22:56 <sethy> %?

22:56 <PovAddict> zombie67: any sign of silly-task-switch so far?

22:56 <PovAddict> sethy: is yours downloading now?

22:56 <sethy> yes

22:56 <zombie67> not yet, but I have only two tasks

22:57 <zombie67> RND always thing they last 0 seconds, but end up taking many hours

22:57 <sethy> ok so i started like 1 minute later than MTughan

22:57 <MTughan> 480KB/s, 20 minutes...

22:57 <zombie67> so at the next request, it will over fetch

22:57 <sethy> because i was trying to save to F:\

22:57 <sethy> and only have C:\ on

22:57 <PovAddict> but it's a big enough file anyway

22:58 <sethy> F:\ is currently in the xbox

22:58 <sethy> MTughan: %%??

22:58 <MTughan> Over 20 minutes, 1 minutes isn't a huge difference.

22:58 <MTughan> 11.4%.

22:58 <sethy> catching up

22:58 <MTughan> 12%.

22:59 <sethy> 15%

22:59 <PovAddict> lol

22:59 <MTughan> 14.3%...

22:59 <MTughan> I can't seem to break 400KB/s now...

22:59 <sethy> 17.5%

22:59 * PovAddict injects fake TCP RST packets into sethy's connection

22:59 <MTughan> 16%. You're going to win

22:59 <sethy> ETA 13 mins

23:00 * sethy makes tea for all

23:00 <MTughan> Hey, what client are you using?

23:00 <sethy> guess

23:00 <MTughan> uTorrent?

23:00 <sethy> mhmm

23:00 <MTughan> I think I may be connected to you...

23:00 <sethy> 25%

23:00 <MTughan> Was.

23:01 <MTughan> 20.6%.

23:01 <sethy> i think my isp is kronical1

23:01 <sethy> aol fagotry

23:01 <MTughan> Where?

23:01 <PovAddict> he's on aol ^^

23:01 <sethy> england

23:01 <PovAddict> nub

23:01 <MTughan> Ah. I'm on Uniserve in Canada.

23:01 <sethy> you live in canada?

23:01 <PovAddict> yes he does

23:01 <MTughan> Your IP?

23:02 <sethy> oh dude which province?

23:02 <sethy>

23:02 * PovAddict clearly sees where this is going

23:02 <MTughan> Ontario. Live just outside of Toronto.

23:02 <sethy> //say $ip

23:02 <MTughan> I'm not sure I know my own IP... Wait, I can get it.

23:02 <sethy> dude i love you

23:02 <sethy> just for the fact

23:02 <sethy> your canadian

23:02 <MTughan> You're*

23:02 <sethy> whatever

23:02 <sethy> pov gtfo

23:02 <MTughan> ;)

23:03 <PovAddict> lolwut

23:03 <MTughan>

23:03 <sethy> gtfo mai netz

23:03 <PovAddict> im not on ur netz

23:04 <sethy> 45%

23:05 <MTughan> 35%.

23:05 <PovAddict> zombie67: heh I think I never noticed you on the lists

23:05 <MTughan> So you're not blazingly faster than I am, but you are slightly faster.

23:05 <MTughan> 400KB/s down. You?

23:05 <PovAddict> zombie67: probably never looked at the email addy on your posts

23:06 <sethy> someone is pissing on my internet so its going 450-750

23:06 <zombie67> I rarely post any more

23:06 <sethy> 50%

23:06 <MTughan> Yeah... 750 is out of my range.

23:06 <zombie67> I used to post quite a bit more during the earlier 5.8 era

23:06 <PovAddict> I do recognize your name, I just didn't map it with "zombie67"

23:06 <MTughan> 40%.

23:08 <zombie67> you notice I found JM7's post in the archive

23:08 <PovAddict> yeah

23:09 <MTughan> 50%.

23:09 <zombie67> that was with .20

23:09 <zombie67> so I doubt anything was fixed with .21

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23:11 <MTughan> 'lo BB. sethy and I are having a bandwidth race.

23:11 <sethy> 70%

23:11 <MTughan> Who can download Kubuntu fastest. 60%.

23:12 <BadBarbarian> lol

23:12 <sethy> 75%

23:14 <MTughan> 490KB/s 71%.

23:14 <sethy> 460kb/s 84%

23:16 <sethy> 90%

23:16 <MTughan> 79%. You have me beat.

23:17 * PovAddict injects fake TCP RST packets into sethy's connection

23:17 <sethy> fine

23:17 <Romulus> I think there is no way to opt out of control at times...

23:17 <sethy> i know how you feel rommy

23:18 <MTughan> 85%...

23:18 <sethy> 98%

23:18 <sethy> 99%

23:18 <sethy> .3

23:18 <sethy> .2

23:18 <sethy> .1

23:18 <sethy> .0

23:18 <sethy> done

23:19 <MTughan> Yeah, you're faster. Nice.

23:19 <MTughan> 90%.

23:19 <zombie67> nite all

23:19 <PovAddict> nite

23:19 <MTughan> Night.

23:19 <sethy> night

23:19 * sethy points at PovAddict

23:19 *** zombie67 has quit IRC

23:19 <sethy> nite

23:19 <MTughan> 12:20AM there...

23:20 <sethy> 04:20:00

23:20 <MTughan> 23:20:35

23:20 <PovAddict> MTughan: I once stayed up till 4 am *my time* talking to seth, calculate what time it was there

23:20 <MTughan> 8AM.

23:21 <MTughan> 99%...

23:22 <MTughan> Done.

23:22 <sethy> congrats

23:22 <sethy> you officially lost

23:22 <BadBarbarian> lol

23:22 <MTughan> So about 3 minutes apart. Over about 30 minutes, that's not bad.

23:22 <sethy> and it was 7:00 am actually

23:22 <sethy> and i had to go to school

23:22 <sethy> so i was fuked

23:22 <MTughan> lol

23:23 <MTughan> My times must be off... Oh well.

23:23 <PovAddict> ugh I just noticed...

23:23 <PovAddict> MTughan:  do you have webdeveloper firefox toolbar?

23:23 <MTughan> Firebug?

23:23 <PovAddict> the webdev toolbar would make it more clear... but ok

23:24 <MTughan> What about it?

23:24 <PovAddict>

23:24 <PovAddict> on webdev toolbar: highlight -> highlight tables

23:24 <PovAddict> on firebug: click Inspect and click on a news item

23:24 <Romulus> Title: (at

23:25 <PovAddict> 4 or 5 levels of table nesting

23:25 <MTughan> Looks like 4. Nice.

23:26 <PovAddict> :-\

23:26 <sethy> whoever has 809.11 should be shot

23:26 * sethy goes toilet

23:26 <MTughan> 809.11?

23:27 <PovAddict> sounds like a wifi standard

23:27 <MTughan> I know 802.11 is wireless...

23:27 <MTughan> :o Just looked at it more carefully. 7 levels...

23:27 <sethy> i mean 802

23:28 <PovAddict> what do you think about it?

23:28 <MTughan> Which 802.11? a, b, g, n?

23:28 <PovAddict> needing a redesign?

23:28 <MTughan> PovAddict: Probably.

23:28 <sethy> i always keep thinking its 809 for some erason

23:28 * sethy wonders is PovAddict will elbow sethy in the neck

23:29 <MTughan> 802.11b sucked. Never tried 802.11a. 802.11g isn't bad. Really want 802.11n.

23:30 <sethy> can has 802.8 plox?

23:30 <MTughan> Sorry. Doesn't exist, as I know.

23:31 <Romulus> GrooveStix: either with adept or type in user's names on Win and Lin, gets confusing

23:31 <sethy> fibre

23:32 <MTughan> 802.8 is fiber optics?

23:32 <sethy> aye

23:32 <MTughan> Interesting.

23:32 <sethy> .7 is BB

23:33 <MTughan> Well, even though I don't have any school tomorrow, my mom still wants me to go to bed. Bye all.

23:33 <BadBarbarian> lol and here i am lucky to have 1 meg download

23:33 <sethy> bye D:

23:33 <BadBarbarian> nite

23:34 <sethy> bye

23:34 <sethy> everyone hates me <3

23:34 <MTughan> >:)

23:35 <BadBarbarian> sethy have you heard any thing about the new amd quad

23:35 <MTughan> Barcelona?

23:35 <BadBarbarian> yes

23:35 <MTughan> I haven't... Be interesting to hear.

23:36 <BadBarbarian> i cant find any amd vs intel with the benchmarks included

23:36 <sethy> nopers, whai?

23:36 * sethy eats chunkie

23:36 <BadBarbarian> :-(

23:37 <sethy> !google amd vs intel benchmarks

23:37 <BadBarbarian> :-)

23:37 <PovAddict> &google fight intel amd

23:37 <Romulus> PovAddict: intel: 16300000, amd: 9880000

23:37 <sethy> != good ?

23:37 <BadBarbarian> quad xenon

23:37 <MTughan> Those are our benchmarks? :P

23:37 <MTughan> &google amd vs intel benchmarks

23:38 <Romulus> MTughan: Search took 0.09 seconds: AMD vs . Intel : It's An Eternal Struggle - <>; AMD vs . Intel : AMD Challenges Intel to a Dual-Core Duel: <>; AMD vs . Intel Dual-Core 64-bit Windows Performance Shootout ...: <,1697,1860212,00.asp>; Real Gaming Challenge: Intel vs . AMD: (3 more messages)

23:38 <BadBarbarian> or core quad

23:38 <MTughan> &more

23:38 <Romulus> MTughan: <,1697,1854726,00.asp>; Processor benchmarks : Intel versus AMD Tech Guide in Components ...: <,1000001694,39164010,00.htm>; AMD desktop chips edge ahead of Intel | Tech News on ZDNet: <>; » The benchmark war: AMD vs . Intel | Paul Murphy | (2 more messages)

23:38 <MTughan> &more

23:38 <Romulus> MTughan: <>; The main event-2003-08-01- AMD vs . Intel : is clock speed the only ...: <,84,1,0801,03.html>; Intel Core 2 Duo vs AMD Athlon 64 FX-62 | Reg Hardware: <>; - Technology Zone - Feature: Dueling Dual Cores: AMD vs ...: (1 more message)

23:38 <MTughan> &more

23:38 <Romulus> MTughan: <>

23:38 <sethy> but intel do computers

23:38 <sethy> and laptops

23:38 <sethy> so thats not a fair fight

23:38 <PovAddict> floodie

23:38 <MTughan> There's your results.

23:39 <BadBarbarian> lol we were talking of quadcores

23:39 <sethy> &more MTughan

23:39 <Romulus> sethy: Error: That's all, there is no more.

23:39 <MTughan> You can do that?

23:39 <MTughan> &weather Toronto

23:39 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 50°F / 10°C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1022hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h | Updated: 11:00 PM EDT; Tonight - Cloudy periods. Wind northwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light this evening. Low 4C(39F).; Thursday - A mix of sun and cloud. Wind becoming east 20 km/h (12 mph) in the afternoon. High 13C(55F). UV index 3 or moderate. (1 more message)

23:39 <PovAddict> &more MTughan

23:39 <Romulus> PovAddict: Thursday night a few clouds. Increasing cloudiness overnight. Wind east 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light overnight. Low 9C(48F).; Friday - Cloudy with 40 percent chance of showers. High 14C(57F).;

23:39 <sethy> OMG SPAM

23:39 <MTughan> Interesting...

23:39 <BadBarbarian> lol

23:39 <PovAddict> &help more

23:39 <Romulus> PovAddict: (more [<nick>]) -- If the last command was truncated due to IRC message length limitations, returns the next chunk of the result of the last command. If <nick> is given, it takes the continuation of the last command from <nick> instead of the person sending this message.

23:40 <sethy> ohlord

23:40 *** PovAddict has quit IRC

23:40 <MTughan> Hehe...

23:40 <MTughan> Oops.

23:41 <sethy> speaking of weather i wonder if jay fixed the uk thing

23:41 <sethy> &weather leeds, england

23:41 <Romulus> sethy: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

23:41 *** PovAddict has joined #boinc

23:41 <MTughan> That was nice...

23:41 <Romulus> obviously, someone is here, ok, is there a picture of yarmouth dock..

23:41 <sethy> PMSL

23:41 <sethy> also rommy hates me

23:41 <PovAddict> I went a bit far spamming sethy

23:42 <BadBarbarian> &weather williams az

23:42 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 42.6F / 5.9C | Humidity: 41% | Pressure: 23.89in / 808.9hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows 27 to 37. Light winds.; Thursday - Sunny. Highs 68 to 74. Light winds.; Thursday Night - Mostly clear. Lows 27 to 37. Light winds.;

23:43 <PovAddict> somebody was going to bed and it wasn't me

23:43 <sethy> yes

23:43 <MTughan> Was me, but I'm reconsidering.

23:43 <sethy> you

23:43 <sethy> b@$%$

23:43 <MTughan> >:)

23:44 <BadBarbarian> :-)

23:44 * sethy sleeps in PovAddict's bed

23:45 <sethy> aww people love me

23:45 <MTughan> Meh.

23:45 <PovAddict> not

23:46 <sethy> if only mother was here

23:46 *** idleone_ is now known as IdleOne

23:46 <sethy> she'd kick all your ass's

23:46 <MTughan> 'lo IdleOne

23:46 <PovAddict> heh can I use my usual defense?

23:46 <PovAddict> "I have your password"

23:46 <sethy> well no because of her back

23:47 <PovAddict> I'm compiling gcc

23:47 <PovAddict>

23:47 <PovAddict> a single gcc instance has been running for 2 minutes

23:47 <sethy> i dont thinkg MTughan knows who i'm talking about

23:47 <sethy> splain

23:47 <MTughan> No, I don't.

23:47 <PovAddict> huh?

23:48 <IdleOne> hello MTughan

23:48 <sethy> no?

23:48 <PovAddict> OH YEA

23:48 <PovAddict> lol

23:48 * PovAddict just finished putting all pieces together

23:48 <PovAddict> yeah I know who you're talking about

23:48 <PovAddict> wonder what happened to her

23:49 <BadBarbarian> nite all

23:49 <PovAddict> nite BB

23:49 <MTughan> Night.

23:49 <PovAddict> bored

23:49 *** BadBarbarian has left #boinc

23:49 <PovAddict> o i know

23:49 <PovAddict> hmm should I...

23:50 <PovAddict> yeaa

23:50 <PovAddict> damn

23:50 <PovAddict> sethy: you changed your nickserv pw :(

23:51 <sethy> PovAddict: dont forget the reason why i told you my pass

23:51 * PovAddict thinks

23:51 <PovAddict> what was it

23:51 <PovAddict> o.o

23:52 <PovAddict> so I could get on your account for... something

23:52 <sethy> also i'll be dead within 1 minute of you saying it nomatter the situation :)

23:52 <PovAddict> wut

23:52 <PovAddict> PM me the reason I really don't remember

23:53 <sethy> password

23:53 <PovAddict> sethy: PovAddict: dont forget the reason why i told you my pass <- I forgot already

23:55 <sethy> i just /msg'd you

23:56 <MTughan> O_O OS X Leopard: "9GB of available disk space"

23:56 <PovAddict> sethy I msg'd you back

23:57 <sethy> but now is not the right time to be talking about passwords because jenn was haxored lately again and i'm not too happy about it

23:57 <sethy> tis resolved but still

23:58 <PovAddict> gone

23:58 <sethy> i know its probably nothing to be worrying about but i think she has enough on her plate being subjected to ID Theft

23:59 <sethy> bai

23:59 <sethy> also hope you read that PovAddict ^^

23:59 <PovAddict> did

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