00:01 <MTughan> New CAD and XKCD!
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00:03 <MTughan> And Rechenkraft is still down...
00:06 <sethy> so who has a pirateship?
00:06 <MTughan> I'm not part of pirates@home
00:07 <sethy> i didnt say pirate@home i said pirateship
00:07 <MTughan> I know. :P
00:08 <sethy> there is a modified map and game on halo3 called pirateships on the seven sea's
00:08 <sethy> its just territories on sandtrap
00:08 <MTughan> Oh. No, I haven't played or even seen any shots from Halo 3.
00:09 <Soul_keeper> UT is better
00:09 <sethy> i dont have qwakewars: ET yet :(
00:10 <sethy> y'arr
00:10 <MTughan> Well, off to bed. Bye for the night.
00:11 <zombie67> everyone read penny arcade today, right?
00:11 <sethy> bye MTughan
00:11 <zombie67> night
00:13 <Soul_keeper> UT3 comes out next month
00:16 <sethy> anyone know anything about the UK release on LOTR: The White Council
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01:50 <sethy> HOLYCOW
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05:48 <ELGono> yippiiii
05:49 <ELGono> 1,508,342.41 cs
05:49 <ELGono> another milestone taken
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05:49 <quail> ELGono: hi
05:50 <ELGono> Y0 quail
05:55 <quail> ELGono: you have a video capture card
05:56 <ELGono> yep and i also have access to a lot of video equipment
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06:01 * freelarry thinks Romulus is having a bad id day
06:01 <ELGono> but thing i'll use mpg1394grab
06:02 <quail> ELGono: it just a capture script that will create directories not exist and capture from selected input to selected file
06:02 <ELGono> wich is a real cool but undocumented tool to get mpeg streams out of a DV (firewire) stream
06:03 <ELGono> for converting i'll use a hdv cam
06:03 <ELGono> cause it has better a/d converters than my capture card
06:03 <quail> ELGono: yep, but this script just for tv / video capture cards
06:03 <ELGono> and it runs on battery, not on my pc-ps
06:03 <ELGono> yep i know
06:04 <ELGono> thats why i won't use it :)
06:05 <quail> hehe, the script very unclean atm, but it just a days worth of work there
06:05 <quail> well not a day but a few hours
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06:19 <ELGono> conf file is always a good idea
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06:38 <CoderForLife> dang revolving doors
06:38 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140
06:38 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 50.5°F / 10.3°C | Humidity: 96% | Pressure: 29.91in / 1012.8hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Today - Widespread showers early this morning...becoming scattered before ending by the afternoon. Highs in the mid 50s. Northeast winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 40s. Northeast (1 more message)
06:38 <CoderForLife> &more
06:38 <Romulus> CoderForLife: winds 15 to 20 mph.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy with isolated showers. Highs in the lower 60s. Northeast winds 10 to 20 mph with gusts up to 35 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.;
06:43 * CoderForLife looks at some Code
06:58 * CoderForLife goes to get some more rest
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07:09 <MTughan> lol, CoderForLife. Revolving doors aren't always the greatest...
07:16 <hawmps> 'lo
07:16 <MTughan> 'lo Jay
07:20 <hawmps> mornin
07:20 <MTughan> Same to you.
07:23 <MTughan> Sorry, g2g
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15:47 <xcamel> there, fixed.
15:47 <MTughan> Fixed what?
15:48 <xcamel> net links down
15:48 <PovAddict> his connection
15:48 <xcamel> romy back
15:48 <MTughan> Cool...
15:48 <xcamel> &weather 12074
15:48 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 52.0°F / 11.1°C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.97in / 1014.8hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; This Afternoon - Cloudy with scattered showers. Much cooler with highs in the lower 50s. Northeast winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a 30 percent chance of showers. Cooler with lows in the upper 30s. (1 more message)
15:48 <xcamel> &more
15:48 <Romulus> xcamel: Northwest winds around 5 mph.; Thursday - Partly sunny. Highs in the upper 50s. North winds around 5 mph.;
15:49 <xcamel> yup..
15:50 <MTughan> Beta of the new Crystal Clear...
15:51 <MTughan> Got some issues to be fixed, but I think it looks absolutely amazing...
15:52 <xcamel> must have been a power glitch here today -
15:52 <MTughan> Your computer shut off?
15:55 <MTughan> yoyo[RKN]: Thanks for your help earlier today. I'll see if I can download another WU and try it.
15:55 <yoyo[RKN]> in the forum?
15:56 <MTughan> Yep. jedirock is me.
15:58 <xcamel> nice, for a mac..\
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15:58 <MTughan> 'lo BB
15:59 <BadBarbarian> howdy
15:59 <MTughan> xcamel: I know that Linux can have some better effects, but considering you can't get Beryl or Compiz for Mac, I say that's pretty cool. Besides, you can't have that kind of transparency in Beryl or Compiz.
16:00 <MTughan> That's not a whole window transparency. Just a background transparency.
16:00 <xcamel> it looks good...
16:00 <MTughan> Nuts... When I sent him a bug report, I was going to ask if he could look at the BOINC Manager...
16:00 <MTughan> Forgot about that. Hehe...
16:01 <PovAddict> it's impossible to do background-only transparency on Linux
16:02 <MTughan> brb
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16:02 <PovAddict> since how can an external program know what is the background and work with all possible widget libraries?
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16:02 <MTughan> Want to see what Colloquy looks like just on the new stuff...
16:03 <MTughan> Not too bad... I think there's some more stuff that could be done, but it's quite nice.
16:04 <xcamel> bbl..
16:09 <MTughan> Who/what records conversation for the logs? Was it down earlier today? http://lledgerock.com/boinc_logs/%23boinc.2007-10-24.log.html seems to be silent for about 8 hours after I left.
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16:31 <MTughan> All right, I'm gonna get started on fixing up the web pages on BOINC...
16:32 <PovAddict> waitwaitwait
16:33 <PovAddict> hmm I wonder if you can use svn over a proxy
16:33 <MTughan> >
16:33 <MTughan> ?*
16:33 <MTughan> I think CVS does work on my network.
16:33 <sethy> why is there still no torrentz for sabayon1.1pro :(
16:33 <PovAddict> there are, sethy
16:33 <Romulus> Title: LinuxTracker (at www.linuxtracker.org)
16:33 <sethy> didnt think of that, thanks
16:33 <Romulus> have you played with that version. .... and just angry looks, hehe
16:33 <PovAddict> still few seeders tho
16:35 <MTughan> PovAddict: Why were you wondering if SVN would work?
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16:35 <PovAddict> so you can svn update periodically
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16:36 <MTughan> Because stuff is always being added in the online repositories? Even in the web?
16:37 <PovAddict> and rytis will commit tomorrow a change that adds recaptcha to the profile creation page
16:37 <MTughan> What proxy were you thinking of?
16:38 <PovAddict> the one you use to bypass what your gateway blocks
16:38 <MTughan> Oh, JAP...
16:38 <MTughan> I don't know if I can intercept those calls.
16:38 <Romulus> Title: subversion: Subversion FAQ (at subversion.tigris.org)
16:39 <c0dewarrior> evening gents
16:40 <MTughan> Wait... Do all/most SVN servers support going over port 81?
16:40 <PovAddict> I doubt it
16:40 <MTughan> What about SSL?
16:40 <PovAddict> try it?
16:40 <PovAddict> depends on Apache
16:40 <MTughan> All right...
16:41 <PovAddict> it looks like they do...
16:41 <Romulus> Title: BOINC (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
16:41 <MTughan> Cool...
16:42 <MTughan> Well, got a certificate notification...
16:42 <MTughan> And it goes!
16:43 <PovAddict> it's downloading?
16:43 <MTughan> Yep.
16:43 <PovAddict> cool
16:43 <PovAddict> then you can run 'svn update' from inside the boinc directory
16:43 <MTughan> So... If I do an update after I've edited stuff, how does it do that? Does it overwrite my changes?
16:43 <PovAddict> it will (try to) merge your changes with the ones from server
16:44 <PovAddict> it's a line-wise merge; if both edit same line, there is a conflict
16:45 <PovAddict> and I don't have experience with resolving conflicts from the command line; TortoiseMerge from TortoiseSVN has a nice GUI for that :P
16:48 <PovAddict> skipped?
16:48 <PovAddict> weird
16:48 <Romulus> Title: Revision 13951: /trunk/boinc (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
16:48 <PovAddict> ah - no URL to update
16:48 <MTughan> ?
16:48 <PovAddict> to download from scratch, it's svn co
16:48 <MTughan> Yep...
16:49 <PovAddict> to update, cd to the boinc directory where you already downloaded it, and run "svn update", no more parameters
16:49 <MTughan> Oh...
16:49 <Romulus> , now I have much use for ATM activity expires this month, and i went from full charge into them
16:49 <MTughan> "Skipped '.'"
16:50 <PovAddict> is that a copy you checked out, or from my tar?
16:50 <MTughan> Oh... Your tar.
16:50 <PovAddict> my tar doesn't have the svn metadata, and I also deleted some stuff you wouldn't need for the web part
16:50 <MTughan> Doing a fresh checkout.
16:51 <MTughan> There it goes. I'll leave it for now. Thanks for your help.
16:51 <PovAddict> ice cream -->
16:51 <MTughan> lol, bye.
16:51 <sethy> i had to read what MTughan said 3 times
16:51 <sethy> i thought he said fetish checkout
16:52 <MTughan> What the?
16:52 <MTughan> Oh, fresh checkout...
16:52 <sethy> fetish checkout
16:52 <MTughan> What the hell is a fetish checkout?
16:52 <sethy> like
16:52 <sethy> check out
16:52 <sethy> not a checkout asing a place at the supreme market
16:53 <sethy> like, a health and safety officer will check out a kitchen
16:53 <sethy> that sort of check out
16:54 <sethy> to 'look at'
16:54 <sethy> see if it meets standards
16:54 <MTughan> Is there any easy way to update an already built project?
16:54 <sethy> make it yourself
16:54 <MTughan> I meant besides installing over the previous one.
16:55 <sethy> ask pov
16:55 <MTughan> Ice cream.
16:56 <sethy> plz
16:56 <MTughan> No, he's gone for ice cream. Go get your own.
16:58 <c0dewarrior> I'd like some too
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17:01 <PovAddict> lolwut
17:01 <PovAddict> that was random
17:01 <PovAddict> I mean like all
17:01 <MTughan> I found the way to update the project.
17:01 <CoderForLife> hello all
17:01 <MTughan> 'lo CFL/Don
17:02 <CoderForLife> hey Michael
17:02 <Romulus> Title: ToolUpgrade - BOINC - Trac (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
17:02 <MTughan> That's what I found.
17:02 <PovAddict> remember to first compile
17:02 <CoderForLife> hey Rommie
17:02 <CoderForLife> hey Nic
17:02 <MTughan> It's already been done.
17:02 <c0dewarrior> hey c0dewarrior
17:02 <MTughan> You say hello to yourself?
17:02 <CoderForLife> that's recursive
17:02 <PovAddict> 5.10.27?
17:02 <MTughan> 'lo c0dewarrior
17:02 <c0dewarrior> oh yes indeed
17:03 <c0dewarrior> grin, evening gents
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17:03 <CoderForLife> hey c0
17:03 <CoderForLife> bye BB
17:03 <MTughan> "To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion."
17:03 <c0dewarrior> MTughan: but only if the recursive recursion is already defined
17:03 <PovAddict> recursion n: See recursion.
17:04 <MTughan> c0dewarrior: It's from a book.
17:04 <CoderForLife> there are 10 kinds of people in this world - those that understand binary, and those who don't
17:04 <MTughan> Oh, 5.10.27 came on just a few minutes ago...
17:04 <MTughan> I said that last night.
17:04 <c0dewarrior> sounded more like something out of "the big bang theory" series
17:04 <c0dewarrior> CoderForLife: but then there might be 10^x people in the world not understanding either
17:06 <sethy> jenn has her new house again!
17:06 <MTughan> "again"?
17:06 <sethy> wait its new it cant be again
17:06 <sethy> jenn has her new house!
17:07 <sethy> PovAddict
17:07 <c0dewarrior> jeepers
17:08 <sethy> hola
17:08 <c0dewarrior> halo
17:08 <sethy> can we not talk about religeon in here plz
17:08 <MTughan> Halo is religion?
17:08 <sethy> look at the game
17:08 <sethy> you think not?
17:09 <c0dewarrior> 0_0
17:09 <MTughan> I haven't played the game.
17:09 <sethy> HA
17:09 <c0dewarrior> halo (with exclamation on the a means hello... hi... howzit... yebo.... greetings.... and other forms of greets)
17:10 <sethy> i knwo
17:10 <sethy> wtf yebo
17:10 <sethy> and howzit
17:10 <CoderForLife> does anyone know if there will be a PC version of Halo 3?
17:10 <sethy> not for a while
17:11 <CoderForLife> you won't know for awhile? =)
17:11 <sethy> there wont be one for a while
17:11 <sethy> someone will emulate it surely
17:11 <CoderForLife> ah
17:12 <sethy> well i've seen 360 comtrollers for the pc
17:12 <c0dewarrior> sethy: ehrm, it comes from parts of the world you haven't been to lately?
17:13 <sethy> hello, hi, halo, guten morgen, bonjour, salut, konnichiha, cseck, ?
17:15 <sethy> also hola
17:16 <PovAddict> whoa 200 posts on povray.general
17:16 <PovAddict> it's impossible to keep up with it
17:16 <c0dewarrior> sethy: alrighty, I yield :-p
17:17 <sethy> gutt
17:21 <xcamel> back for a bit
17:21 <MTughan> 5.10.27 out for Windows.
17:22 <Romulus> 2mg each core has 2 new computers ... DO REVISION!!! hehehe
17:23 <sethy> i dont have to do revision anymore
17:23 <CoderForLife> hey Jay
17:23 <sethy> i'm not at highschool
17:23 <CoderForLife> getting your share of rain there, xcamel?
17:25 <CoderForLife> ok, well, I'm off for the evening at wife request
17:25 <CoderForLife> cya back here soon
17:25 <MTughan> Bye.
17:25 <MTughan> Have fun. :P
17:26 <CoderForLife> certainly
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17:40 <sethy> I'M SO HAPPY RIGHT NOW
17:40 <sethy> i just found my glasses
17:40 * sethy dances
17:40 <PovAddict> meh
17:41 * sethy grabs PovAddict and makes him dance with
17:41 <PovAddict> did you download the new sabayon?
17:41 <PovAddict> ugh
17:41 <sethy> still downloading
17:41 <PovAddict> seeding lots? :P
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17:41 <sethy> still downloading.....
17:41 <PovAddict> there's lots of peers and few seeders, and you have fast net
17:41 <PovAddict> I'm sure you're helping
17:42 <sethy> down speed maxing 20kb/s
17:42 <xcamel_> /nick xcamel
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17:42 <sethy> at 2.9%
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17:42 <sethy> jay try without the /say
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17:42 <mweltin> PovAddict: quick question about Checkpoint files. Are you there?
17:43 <sethy> he's just gone for dinner
17:43 <mweltin> ok
17:43 <xcamel> gee thanks, sethy
17:43 <sethy> he shouldnt be long
17:43 <MTughan> No, he hasn't.
17:43 <PovAddict> sethy is lying
17:43 <sethy> :D
17:43 <mweltin> I guess I can direct my question to you all in general
17:43 <Romulus> turning off all the solder and lead the Argentine development division
17:43 <PovAddict> but I was about to say "oh noes, it's mweltin /o\"
17:43 <mweltin> yes its hapless me again.
17:44 <mweltin> I was going over the upper_case.C code and had one question.
17:44 <PovAddict> only one? you're good at understanding that code
17:45 <mweltin> It looks for a valid checkpoint file, if it finds one it does a seek of the input file, and a truncate of the output.
17:45 <mweltin> I get the truncation, but what is the seek for?
17:45 <PovAddict> opposite here, why does it truncate the output if it wants to append?
17:46 <PovAddict> uppercase converts an input file to uppercase... so if checkpoint says "I stopped at byte 100 last time", it has to seek to that place on both input and output and continue converting
17:46 <mweltin> I'm not sure, but a truncation works for my application.
17:46 <mweltin> ok.
17:47 <mweltin> Is there anything wrong with making hte checkpoint file and the inputfile (i.e. the result) the same file?
17:47 <mweltin> ok I had more than one question.
17:47 <mweltin> sorry.
17:48 <PovAddict> the input?
17:48 <PovAddict> dont you mean output?
17:49 <mweltin> The workunit, the lowercase letters that come in.
17:49 <PovAddict> how could that be the checkpoint?
17:49 <PovAddict> you aren't supposed to edit input files
17:49 <mweltin> ok
17:50 <mweltin> that was what I needed to know.
17:50 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o xcamel
17:50 <mweltin> back to work.
17:50 <mweltin> thanks
17:50 *** xcamel changes topic to "BOINC | stats & logs: http://lledgerock.com/boinc_logs/ Versions: all dev: 5.10.27 windows, Windows x64, 5.10.26 osx/darwin, 5.10.21 *nix/32/64 | Romulus (&) is the channel bot"
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17:51 <MTughan> Anyone know how to detect a network interface? One of my VMs isn't getting it.
17:52 <freelarry> ifconfig ?
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17:53 <MTughan> Ah, there we go. Needed the right arguments.
17:53 <freelarry> route or arp ?
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17:54 <MTughan> "ifconfig eth0 up" did it.
17:54 * freelarry scratches head and wonders where he came up with his answer
17:54 <PovAddict> "I *often* wonder what's so damn hard about rocket science..."
17:55 <freelarry> lol stick with explosive to throw it into air
17:55 <freelarry> hard part keeping body parts together when lighting fuse
17:56 * freelarry notes need longer fuse
17:56 <wdsmia> *lo All
17:56 <freelarry> afternoon doug
17:56 <MTughan> Ah, darn it... eth0 is up, but doesn't seem to actually be connected.
17:57 <MTughan> Yep, no IP.
17:57 <freelarry> try route or arp for more in
17:57 <freelarry> info
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17:58 <MTughan> "arp" doesn't return anything...
17:59 <MTughan> "route" just returns info for lo, not eth0 or anything else.
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18:01 <MTughan> Hmm... Anyone know how to make it look for a DHCP server? Wait a minute...
18:02 <freelarry> k - beyound what i know but looks like you need to set up a internet connection on vm
18:02 <MTughan> There should be a connection to it. Bridged right to the wireless.
18:03 <freelarry> eth0 not initialized?
18:03 <MTughan> Should be. I'm just wondering if dhcpd is running.
18:03 <MTughan> Not sure how to bring it up though... /sbin/service doesn't seem to be there.
18:04 <PovAddict> ugh
18:04 <PovAddict> dozens of "!"s and "?"s won't get him a faster answer...
18:05 <MTughan> Oh, there it is... g2g for a bit.
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18:07 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2007 October 24 - Ring Scan (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)
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18:07 <xcamel> (saturn)
18:47 <MTughan> Back.
18:47 <Romulus> Title: List of recently connected client types (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)
18:47 <PovAddict> isn't that too many 4.45 users?
18:47 <PovAddict> and way too many 5.02 users?
18:47 <MTughan> Probably.
18:48 <Romulus> what the hell do I do at 2-4 am
18:48 <PovAddict> you speak randomly as always, rommie
18:49 <MTughan> Strange... No OS X 5.10.24...
18:49 <PovAddict> there's two osx 5.10.26
18:50 <MTughan> That's PowerPC comps.
18:50 <PovAddict> right...
18:50 <MTughan> The only thing I can think of is that 5.10.24 is identifying as 5.10.20.
18:51 <PovAddict> nope
18:51 <MTughan> There are 54 of those on Intel comps.
18:51 <PovAddict> it's just few people are keeping up with the alpha versions
18:51 <MTughan> I just updated mine, then refreshed the page. No 5.10.24.
18:51 <PovAddict> no way that list is realtime
18:51 <xcamel> back again
18:51 <PovAddict> their DB server would be dead long ago if the list was real time
18:51 <MTughan> Oh, I see...
18:51 <MTughan> "last updated: October 24 2007 14:50:06."
18:52 <PovAddict> a minute ago... nice
18:52 <MTughan> Whoa, that was a while ago...
18:52 <PovAddict> it's a different page than last time I loaded it
18:52 <sethy> i've uploaded double my download on sabayon pro
18:52 <PovAddict> says 15:50:06 now
18:52 <PovAddict> sethy: I want your bandwidth
18:52 <MTughan> Oh, I see. It's every 10 minutes.
18:52 <PovAddict> looks more like every hour
18:52 <MTughan> Still no 5.10.24 on Intel OS X.
18:53 <sethy> how much you downoaded pov?
18:53 <MTughan> No, it must be identifying as 5.10.20.
18:54 <PovAddict> sethy: I downloaded whole file from mirrors
18:54 <PovAddict> then let azureus seed
18:55 <sethy> i'm being bandwidth friendly
18:55 <PovAddict> btw I'm downloading ocremix 1001-1600 torrent, getting it real fast
18:55 <sethy> â€¢â€ºâ€º uTorrent :: #0 Sabayon-x86 1.1 Professional Edition (2.01 GB) :: 79.4 MB% :: Down: 1 (3) :: Up: 30 (78) :: ETA: 31.9 kB/s :: Ratio: 20h 40m :: Status: 1.94 GB Â«
18:55 <sethy> â€¢â€ºâ€º uTotal :: Down: 0B/s :: Up: 0B/s Â«
18:55 <PovAddict> LOL
18:55 <PovAddict> that's all messed up
18:56 <sethy> uTotal fails
18:56 <MTughan> I can read it.
18:56 <PovAddict> ETA is a speed, Ratio is a time?
18:56 <PovAddict> status is in GB?
18:56 <MTughan> ETA is a time.
18:56 <PovAddict> ETA: 31.9 kB/s
18:56 <MTughan> Or should be... o_O
18:56 <sethy> THAT IS TOTALLY MESSED
18:56 <sethy> its not even done 79.4%
18:56 <MTughan> ETA: Estimated Time of Arrival
18:56 <sethy> its not even at 4.0 yet!
18:56 <sethy> now it is
18:57 <PovAddict> and the percentage is in megabytes lol
18:57 <sethy> screw this
18:57 <sethy> hold on
18:57 <MTughan> Wow, that is totally messed up...
18:57 <PovAddict> it got 79.4MB, not 79.4%
18:57 <sethy> get me link for mirror plox
18:58 <MTughan> Still seeding Gutsy, uploaded 3.50GB. That's crap...
18:58 <MTughan> I'm getting no where near my upload speed.
18:58 <MTughan> s/no where/nowhere/
18:59 <Romulus> Damned pidgin didn't give me a 9/11 shirt at the beach
18:59 <MTughan> Upload is at 4KB/s, I can reach 400Kb/s.
18:59 <PovAddict> sethy: get DTA beta
18:59 <MTughan> &math convert 400 kilobits to kilobytes
18:59 <Romulus> MTughan: 50
18:59 <MTughan> &math calc 4/50
18:59 <Romulus> MTughan: 0.08
18:59 <MTughan> >_>
19:00 <sethy> ?
19:00 <sethy> dta?
19:00 <PovAddict> DownThemAll
19:00 <sethy> i am
19:00 <sethy> later
19:00 <sethy> after
19:00 <sethy> i mirror sabayon
19:00 <sethy> *poinces on ascii*
19:01 <MTughan> Pounces?
19:01 <PovAddict> if you get the dta beta I can make you download from ALL mirrors at the same time getting uberspeed
19:01 <MTughan> Does it just run under FF, or can it run as a separate app?
19:02 <PovAddict> it's an extension, like chatzilla
19:02 <MTughan> Nuts...
19:02 <MTughan> FF on OS X looks horrid.
19:02 <sethy> goh
19:02 <sethy> download
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19:03 <PovAddict> MTughan: there is an unofficial build using native widgets
19:03 * sethy plays mission impossible theme in background
19:03 <MTughan> Where?
19:03 <PovAddict> ...somewhere...
19:03 <PovAddict> I saw an (old) one, with screenshots, looked really good
19:03 <PovAddict> but hey
19:03 <sethy> i dont think its started downloading yet....
19:03 <PovAddict> hmm
19:03 <MTughan> Well, I'll try it on FF. See how it compares to Transmission.
19:04 <PovAddict> does camino support mozilla extension system?
19:04 <PovAddict> MTughan: DTA is a download manager, no torrents
19:04 <MTughan> No.
19:04 <MTughan> Oh... It doesn't help anyone download?
19:04 <PovAddict> well, makes *you* get the file faster, then you can load it into a bittorrent client :P
19:05 <MTughan> Well, I can always install it. I don't have any big downloads to do right now, but I imagine I will sometime in the future.
19:05 <sethy> just says percent: ???
19:08 <MTughan> What the? The Windows version of FF is the smallest download...
19:08 <MTughan> Windows is 5.7MB, Linux is 9.2MB, and OS X is 17MB...
19:10 <sethy> its taking too long to index
19:14 <sethy> dimension 165.00 Mb/???
19:14 <sethy> w'sa?
19:14 <MTughan> lol
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19:15 <PovAddict> sethy: you're scaring people away
19:15 <sethy> why thank you
19:15 <sethy> never knew i had such tallent
19:15 <MTughan> It was better when you left last night. We had a huge influx of people. >:)
19:15 <MTughan> >D
19:17 <sethy> if i had op right now, i'd kick you
19:17 <MTughan> Hehe...
19:18 <sethy> PovAddict!!!!!!!!
19:18 <MTughan> You want him to rebuke me?
19:18 <PovAddict> wut
19:18 * sethy << going depressed againz
19:19 <PovAddict> ohh
19:19 <PovAddict> about:cache
19:19 <PovAddict> try it on ffx
19:19 <MTughan> Interesting...
19:19 <MTughan> It stuck over to Camino too...
19:19 <PovAddict> try about:
19:20 <MTughan> Camino says invalid URL...
19:20 <PovAddict> does about:about work in Camino? doesn't in Firefox
19:20 <MTughan> FF gets an info page with about:.
19:20 <MTughan> about:about seems to be a help page.
19:20 <PovAddict> whoa
19:20 <PovAddict> about:cache?device=memory
19:21 <PovAddict> about:cache?device=disk
19:21 <MTughan> Interesting... Memory is stuff that's being held in memory, and disk is stuff that's cached on disk?
19:21 <PovAddict> GUESS
19:21 <PovAddict> yes
19:22 <sethy> toilet
19:22 <sethy> sink?
19:22 <sethy> pato?
19:22 <MTughan> That's odd... There's an image stored in memory that I haven't accessed for a few hours...
19:22 <sethy> tommatoe?
19:22 <MTughan> sethy: WTF is that?
19:22 <PovAddict> about:neterror?e=error&u=url&d=Your%20head%20asplode.
19:22 <PovAddict> MTughan: that's why Firefox eats so much RAM!
19:22 <sethy> because of my random guessing
19:22 <MTughan> lol, nice.
19:23 <MTughan> Camino's response is a bit more business like than FF's.
19:23 <MTughan> Camino says "Cannot complete request." FF says "Oops."
19:23 <xcamel> camb_v2 is downloading for cosmo
19:24 <MTughan> g2g again. I'm really busy, can't you tell? ;)
19:24 <MTughan> At least I have the next two days off school, then the weekend. :D
19:26 <MTughan> sethy: Tell AbsenceOfLight that it's because #codeblank is about nothing, and I don't care for it.
19:27 <MTughan> Anyway, off. Bye.
19:27 <PovAddict> MTughan: did you notice AbsenceOfLight's acronym?
19:27 <MTughan> AOL?
19:27 <PovAddict> *splodes*
19:27 <sethy> [00:27] <AbsenceOfLight> sethy: It's not about nothing.
19:27 <sethy> [00:27] <AbsenceOfLight> It just has no stated purpose.
19:27 <PovAddict> lol
19:27 <MTughan> sethy: All the same to me.
19:28 <sethy> dude i'm not forwarding messages, get back in there
19:28 <MTughan> Nope.
19:28 <sethy> @%%$er
19:28 <MTughan> :D
19:28 * PovAddict slaps sethy
19:28 * sethy gets knife
19:28 <MTughan> Ooh.. Can I get the Slapper?
19:28 <PovAddict> ew
19:28 * PovAddict looks at wdsmia
19:28 <PovAddict> I guess not
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19:29 <MTughan> slap sethy for wanting me in #codeblank
19:29 * SlapperBot mutilates sethy with a returning sidekick for wanting MTughan in #codeblank
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19:30 <MTughan> And I really have to go now... Flame me when I get back.
19:30 <sethy> ok bitch
19:30 <sethy> bye
19:30 * PovAddict throws fire at MTughan
19:30 <PovAddict> flaming you
19:30 <PovAddict> RUN
19:30 <MTughan> lol
19:30 * MTughan dons fire gear
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19:39 <PovAddict> zombie67: client_types script fixed
19:39 <zombie67> what does that do again?
19:39 <PovAddict> ...
19:40 <Romulus> Title: List of recently connected client types (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)
19:40 <PovAddict> teh list
19:40 <Romulus> XP pro still haven't done any Coding using sparklines?
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19:43 <zombie67> Ah!
19:43 <zombie67> right!
19:43 <zombie67> yes, that is the way it used to look.
19:44 <PovAddict> isn't that too many 4.45 users, and way too many 5.02 users?
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19:48 <zombie67> and *way* too many 5.9.0 (crunch3r version).
19:49 <zombie67> 21%? no way
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20:48 <zombie67> PovAddict: you still there?
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21:02 <sethy> i can smell books
21:06 <MTughan> You can smell books? They have a particular scent?
21:06 <Romulus> development - talked to someone pn the same evil, I think
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21:10 <MTughan> Ah, time to update...
21:13 <MTughan> Hmm... yoyo's not here, but the WUs are running fine.
21:13 <PovAddict> now I am
21:13 <PovAddict> zombie67: boo
21:13 <zombie67> ah!
21:14 <zombie67> question about a bug
21:14 <MTughan> Seems rather regular now...
21:15 <zombie67> When multiple WUs, all with the same due date/time, become potentially late, BOINC would run a few minutes on one, then a few minutes on another, etc.etc. This ensured that all would be late. It should be finishing one before moving to the next, so that at least some are returned on time. Has this been fixed?
21:16 <PovAddict> what version are you on?
21:17 <zombie67> 5.10.8 linux 64 bit
21:17 <PovAddict> John McLeod said he fixed that problem a year ago, either his fix was never checked in or the bug was re-introduced
21:18 <MTughan> 5.10.21 is the latest for Linux x86_64.
21:18 <zombie67> right. so I am trying to figure if it has been re-fixed, and if so, with which version?
21:18 <zombie67> I don't want to upgrade if it isn't re-fixed yet.
21:18 <MTughan> 5.10.8 was released June this year... So if it was a year ago that it was "fixed", then you should have it...
21:19 <MTughan> June 25, 2007.
21:19 <zombie67> I saw the problem with 5.10.8
21:19 <MTughan> Yes, I know. But that version was released less than a year ago, so it should have the fix.
21:19 <zombie67> should but doesn't
21:20 <MTughan> Yeah, I know... PovAddict?
21:20 <zombie67> JM7 brought up this on one of the lists, but I never saw anyone address it.
21:20 <MTughan> zombie67: Do you use Crystal Clear on any of your Macs?
21:21 <PovAddict> zombie67: if would be good if you can test .21
21:21 <MTughan> BOINC first...
21:21 <zombie67> Crystal Clear?
21:21 <MTughan> Mod for OS X. Guess not...
21:21 <zombie67> I don't want to waste time testing if the fix isn't in....
21:21 <PovAddict> I'd test it myself but I don't have that situation on my current queue
21:22 <zombie67> who would know?
21:22 <MTughan> Can you force more WU downloads by suspending WUs?
21:22 <freelarry> i hav in past
21:22 <zombie67> the trick is to get WUs with exactly the same due dates
21:22 <zombie67> RND is one that does that
21:22 <PovAddict> I do, but they aren't in deadline trouble
21:22 <PovAddict> oh wait
21:23 <PovAddict> got it, set my "connect every" to 10 days
21:23 <MTughan> Ah. Nice.
21:23 <freelarry> thats not posible i don't think
21:23 <PovAddict> now it thinks I won't connect till 10 days pass, so they're high priority
21:23 <MTughan> freelarry: You can tell it how much work it should download.
21:23 <freelarry> huh
21:23 <PovAddict> "connect every X days" != "get X days of work"
21:23 <MTughan> Oh...
21:23 <PovAddict> sometimes it behaves the opposite
21:24 <MTughan> Oh, I see. "Computer is connected to the Internet about every" in project web preferences.
21:24 <PovAddict> zombie67: how much time till it switches and runs another?
21:25 <MTughan> I see it in E@H at least.
21:25 <PovAddict> ah, I have "switch between apps" set to an hour!
21:25 <zombie67> I don't recall exactly. Maybe the switch interval setting?
21:25 <PovAddict> changed to 1 minute, waiting...
21:26 <freelarry> some bad news PovAddict
21:26 <zombie67> how does one upgrade with linux? if you unpack the download, it just creates a new BOINC folder
21:26 <freelarry> it appears i will have to shut down some systems as they run out of work
21:27 <freelarry> need to reduce pwr bill for a couple of months
21:27 <PovAddict> zombie67: isn't your current installation in a BOINC folder?
21:27 <zombie67> freelarry: tell me about it. It is finally cooling down enough that I can turn off the AC
21:27 <MTughan> Hmm... I wonder how BOINC would run inside a VM?
21:27 <zombie67> yes
21:27 <PovAddict> zombie67: run the .sh from the parent directory of that BOINC folder
21:28 <freelarry> lol not that but have to help wife with her bills
21:28 <PovAddict> freelarry: well... nothing particularly important going on....
21:28 <zombie67> it doesn't just create a second BOINC folder?
21:28 <xcamel> boo..
21:29 <PovAddict> zombie67: wtf? you can't have two folders called the same
21:29 <MTughan> Boo to you too. :P
21:29 <Romulus> looks like i did a `./configue && make && make perfectly with me then...
21:29 <PovAddict> zombie67: in any case, remember to stop boinc before letting the installer overwrite any file
21:29 <zombie67> I know that. I assumed it would work like my mac where if foo already exists, it would create foo-1
21:30 <PovAddict> it will write to ./BOINC/whatever
21:30 <PovAddict> without even caring if it already exists
21:30 <zombie67> ouch!
21:30 <PovAddict> foo-1 thing is a feature of the GUI
21:30 <MTughan> Although it is nice.
21:30 <PovAddict> I haven't seen any CLI program do that
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21:31 <PovAddict> btw my WUs still aren't switching
21:31 <zombie67> okay, I'll give it a shot. brb
21:37 <zombie67> didn't work
21:37 <zombie67> sh foo
21:38 <zombie67> seems to have worked
21:38 <zombie67> yet when I start boincmanager, still shows 5.19.8
21:39 <zombie67> 5.10.8
21:39 <PovAddict> well, I'm bringing my client back to sensible settings
21:40 <zombie67> I am thinking the sh command is failing, because the folder BOINC already exists
21:40 <PovAddict> I always upgrade it that way
21:41 <MTughan> PovAddict: Am I able to control BOINC on another machine with the manager on my machine?
21:41 <PovAddict> yes
21:42 <Romulus> Title: RpcAuth - BOINC - Trac (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
21:42 <MTughan> Ah, I was wondering what to use for a password...
21:43 <PovAddict> the contents of gui_rpc_auth.cfg, but I bet the client isn't allowing remote connections anyway
21:43 <MTughan> It has to be configured for that?
21:43 * MTughan reads on...
21:46 <MTughan> I still can't seem to connect...
21:46 <PovAddict> did you add a remote_hosts.cfg?
21:46 <MTughan> Yep.
21:46 <zombie67> nope. install still not working. Still 5.10.8
21:47 <PovAddict> editing either gui_rpc_auth.cfg or remote_hosts.cfg needs a client restart
21:47 <Romulus> as weird as hell but i got 6 machines in it - and I had to say
21:47 <MTughan> I restarted.
21:47 <PovAddict> what error do you get?
21:47 <MTughan> Not the machine, but the client.
21:47 <zombie67> who you?
21:47 <MTughan> BOINC is unable to find a client, or something like that.
21:47 <zombie67> MT: do you have a firewall running?
21:47 <zombie67> on the remote machine?
21:48 <MTughan> On the remote machine? Not sure...
21:48 <MTughan> "BOINC Manager is not able to connect to a BOINC client.":
21:48 <zombie67> FWIW, I was never able to get the remote client thing working with BOINCmgr.
21:48 <PovAddict> wow
21:49 <PovAddict> a microSD with 16 gig, USD 99
21:49 <PovAddict> 15mm Ã— 11mm Ã— 0.7mm
21:49 <MTughan> Nice.
21:49 <MTughan> I have no idea where to find firewall settings on KDE...
21:50 <MTughan> Yeah, microSD is incredibly small.
21:50 <PovAddict> it's probably iptables, you probably need to install a separate app to graphically konfigure it
21:50 <PovAddict> (beware of the pun)
21:51 <MTughan> lol
21:52 <MTughan> Found it. Yes, the firewall is on. Do we know what port it uses?
21:52 <MTughan> BOINC, that is.
21:52 <PovAddict> 31416
21:53 <PovAddict> (pi)
21:53 <MTughan> lol, nice.
21:53 <PovAddict> used to use 1000-something
21:53 <PovAddict> and even registered it in IANA
21:53 <MTughan> Okay, 'nuther try...
21:53 <PovAddict> but Windows services were sometimes taking over that port, causing problems for many users
21:54 <MTughan> Nuts... Took a bit longer, but same error.
21:54 <PovAddict> berkeley requested IANA for another port, IANA didn't reply quick, BOINC took 31416 without registration
21:54 <PovAddict> that's what I read about the story...
21:56 <MTughan> Gonna try the other way, from the VM to my Mac. I have a bit more control on here.
21:56 <PovAddict> are you using bridged mode?
21:56 <PovAddict> for VM network
21:56 <MTughan> In VMware? Yeah.
21:57 <MTughan> Not NAT.
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21:59 <MTughan> Nice... Connecting the other way works on the first try. Gives me the impression that the BOINC client didn't restart...
22:00 <zombie67> tried rebooting, reinstalling, still 5.10.8
22:00 <PovAddict> zombie67: o_O
22:00 <PovAddict> you sure you aren't running 5.10.8 installer?
22:00 <zombie67> yep. even re-downloaded it
22:01 <zombie67> is it perhaps installing it in some other location than ./ ?
22:01 <PovAddict> I doubt it...
22:01 <PovAddict> is it the debug installer?
22:01 <zombie67> ?
22:01 <Romulus> lol darwin award >> Man Burns House While Trying To Kill Yellow Jackets
22:01 <zombie67> it is the one from teh download page
22:02 <PovAddict> there's i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh and i686-pc-linux-gnu_debug.sh for all versions
22:02 <PovAddict> debug installer uses a different directory for some strange reason
22:03 <MTughan> Okay, turning off the firewall on the VM doesn't help...
22:04 <zombie67> it is boinc_5.10.21_x686_64-pc-linux-gnu.sh
22:04 <MTughan> And BOINC's definitely not running... CPU usage is almost 0.
22:06 <PovAddict> downloading it
22:06 <PovAddict> no linux x64 machine to test it on, but the installer alone will run on cygwin
22:06 <MTughan> Haha! Got it!
22:07 <MTughan> I think it was because the GUI was running on the other machine. Just running the client and trying to connect to that worked.
22:07 <PovAddict> weird
22:07 <PovAddict> works with multiple GUI RPC connections
22:12 <PovAddict> zombie67: the installer definitely contains the correct version
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22:14 <zombie67> trying to download it on a nother machine and thumb drive it over
22:15 <MTughan> Nuts... Trying to run BoincView and see if it's any good. It says that Wine is supported, although not fully tested. But I can't get it to show.
22:16 <sethy> use beer, wine is for girls
22:16 * sethy walks away
22:16 <MTughan> It says that WINE is supported.
22:16 <PovAddict> and I'm sure beer isn't
22:17 <MTughan> Better? Instead of a noun, it's not an acronym.
22:17 <MTughan> now*
22:18 <zombie67> nope
22:18 <PovAddict> :-\
22:18 <zombie67> I wonder if it really is .21, but the help panel just wasn't updated?
22:18 <PovAddict> you sure boinc is stopped?
22:19 <MTughan> Possible, but unlikely.
22:19 <zombie67> yep
22:19 <MTughan> If you want, I can stop mine and then boot up the manager, see what it says here.
22:19 <zombie67> I would appreciate it!
22:19 <zombie67> I did "sh -v ./bo....."
22:20 * sethy walks back
22:20 <sethy> who's supporting ninja day?
22:20 <zombie67> just so I could see it is really doing
22:20 <MTughan> 5.10.21. Sorry.
22:20 <zombie67> aargh!
22:20 <zombie67> I am going to move my .8 install to a new name, and see what sh does now.
22:21 * sethy looks @ PovAddict
22:22 * sethy notices
22:22 <zombie67> wow. created a new boinc folder with 5.10.8
22:23 <sethy> why am i only getting 350kB/s?
22:23 <MTughan> Down?
22:23 <MTughan> Or up?
22:23 <sethy> yes
22:23 <sethy> no
22:23 <sethy> down
22:23 <MTughan> That's not bad. I hit a ceiling of about 500KB/s.
22:23 <sethy> i should be getting 760kB/s
22:23 <MTughan> Oh...
22:23 <zombie67> I am going to try downloading it from the archive instead
22:24 <MTughan> What are you downloading and what are you using to download it?
22:24 <sethy> that shouldnt be a problem
22:24 <sethy> downloading linux iso via mirror
22:24 <sethy> over DTA
22:24 <MTughan> What you're downloading could affect it. Depending on how many other people are downloading it.
22:24 <MTughan> Even servers have limited bandwidth.
22:25 <sethy> i know
22:25 <sethy> but it seems capped at 350 on everything i dl
22:25 <MTughan> Oh...
22:29 <sethy> google doesnt have limited bandwidth
22:29 <sethy> because they are the internet
22:30 <MTughan> Yes they do. It's just incredibly high.
22:30 <sethy> exactly
22:30 <sethy> and when is someone gonna break that?
22:30 <PovAddict> sethy: I told you to get DTA beta
22:30 <PovAddict> so you could use all mirrors @ same time easily
22:30 <MTughan> When everyone tries to DoS Google at the same time.
22:30 <sethy> NOW you tell me it supports multiple mirrors
22:31 <MTughan> He told you that before, as I remember...
22:31 <PovAddict> PovAddict: if you get the dta beta I can make you download from ALL mirrors at the same time getting uberspeed
22:31 <sethy> i've lost how to get beta
22:31 <MTughan> One sec...
22:32 <MTughan> Darn you...
22:32 <PovAddict> I WIN
22:32 <PovAddict> (>^_^)>
22:32 <PovAddict> <(^_^<)
22:32 <sethy> PovAddict is epic win
22:32 <MTughan> I need to take off the SAM from Crystal Clear... It's slowing me down instead of helping me.
22:32 <zombie67> ok
22:32 <zombie67> I did a moved BOINC to old_BOINC
22:33 <zombie67> then sh boinc....
22:33 <zombie67> then went into the newly created BOINC folder
22:33 <PovAddict> then cd BOINC; ./boinc --version
22:33 <MTughan> 5.10.21?
22:33 <zombie67> boinc --version shows 5.10.21
22:33 <MTughan> So only the GUI hasn't been updated...
22:33 <PovAddict> boincmgr --version?
22:34 <zombie67> that didn't show as an option
22:34 <PovAddict> MTughan: the version number shown on status bar is the version of the client is connected to
22:34 <zombie67> let me try
22:34 <MTughan> Oh.
22:34 <MTughan> Oh yeah, on the status bar. I'm thinking the about window.
22:34 <MTughan> That's the manager version.
22:34 <PovAddict> that one definitely is mgr version
22:35 <MTughan> brb
22:36 <zombie67> ah!
22:36 <zombie67> the "connected to" in lower right shows 5.10.21
22:36 <zombie67> help shows 5.10.8
22:36 <sethy> so what am i doing pov?
22:36 <PovAddict> sethy: got beta?
22:36 <sethy> ya
22:36 <PovAddict> btw how much did you download so far?
22:36 <sethy> didnt....
22:37 <PovAddict> before installing beta
22:37 <sethy> didnt...
22:37 <zombie67> so now what?
22:37 <sethy> it was just doing ###.##MB / ???
22:37 <PovAddict> sethy: downloading linux iso via mirror
22:37 <PovAddict> sethy: over DTA
22:37 <zombie67> does the manager GUI have it's own version number?
22:37 <PovAddict> zombie67: yeah, but I thought it would be updated as well
22:38 <PovAddict> I g2g soon
22:38 <zombie67> do I care what version the manager is?
22:38 <PovAddict> not really
22:38 <PovAddict> is it still switching tasks?
22:38 <zombie67> should I tell someone?
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22:38 <zombie67> don't know about switching tasks. that will take a day or so
22:38 <zombie67> to test
22:39 <PovAddict> I thought it crunched on one for some MINUTES, then switched
22:39 * MTughan has cherry pie
22:39 <sethy> ok
22:39 <sethy> so its downloading from 1 mirror
22:39 <PovAddict> sethy: stop it
22:39 <PovAddict> sethy: use this http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar/metalink/Sabayon-x86-1.1-ProfessionalEdition.iso.metalink
22:39 <sethy> no?
22:40 <sethy> its doing ok now
22:40 <sethy> i was being a whore using japans server instead of australias
22:40 <sethy> now i'm getting 870kb/s
22:40 <MTughan> That makes you a whore?
22:40 <sethy> yes
22:40 <sethy> because
22:40 <sethy> i love japan
22:40 <MTughan> ...
22:41 <zombie67> should I send something to the alpha list?
22:41 <PovAddict> yeah mention the version number for mgr is wrong
22:41 <PovAddict> *and* watch your tasks for the silly-switching
22:42 <sethy> all your base are belong to me
22:43 <MTughan> PovAddict: So theoretically, with the right settings, I could control BOINC on your computer with BOINC here.
22:43 <PovAddict> correct
22:43 <MTughan> Cool...
22:43 <PovAddict> means I need to configure boinc to allow the connection, and forward port in router
22:43 <PovAddict> but latency will hurt
22:43 <PovAddict> in a particular way...
22:44 <PovAddict> imagine ping is 250ms
22:44 <MTughan> I can see some of the advantages in doing a system like that. Maybe not my computer to yours, but that kind of thing.
22:44 <MTughan> lol
22:44 <PovAddict> the manager will be unresponsive 25% of the time
22:44 <sethy> who wants a bandwidth race?
22:44 <sethy> :D
22:44 <sethy> <3
22:44 * sethy looks at PovAddict
22:44 <PovAddict> stfu sethy
22:44 <PovAddict> mine sucks <.<
22:44 <sethy> :(
22:44 <MTughan> sethy: I'll take you on.
22:44 <sethy> MTughan?
22:44 <Romulus> then get it to compile the code, and even peta.
22:44 <sethy> oh
22:44 <sethy> ?
22:44 <PovAddict> no way I can compete with you
22:45 <MTughan> What are we downloading?
22:45 <sethy> pov look for something to download
22:45 *** benje has joined #boinc
22:45 <sethy> something hefty
22:45 <MTughan> I'll get dTa working here...
22:45 <sethy> whoever said it had to be over DTA?
22:45 <PovAddict> ok... you start as soon as I post link, so time to get the URL on your download manager counts too... click fast :)
22:45 <MTughan> Hold on...
22:45 <PovAddict> sure
22:46 <MTughan> How do I download something with dTa anyway?
22:46 <sethy> wait i'm not ready just talking to jenn amo about whats happening
22:46 <PovAddict> MTughan: use something you're used to
22:46 <MTughan> That means one stream...
22:46 <sethy> PovAddict: whats the file?
22:47 <sethy> torrent or what?
22:47 <PovAddict> no, I'll post an old BOINC version
22:47 <MTughan> All right. Camino will do.
22:47 <sethy> ....
22:47 <PovAddict> just for downloading, not like it's useful
22:47 <MTughan> I'm ready then.
22:47 <PovAddict> 8.9MB
22:47 <PovAddict> ok can I post then?
22:47 <sethy> that sucks
22:48 <sethy> no
22:48 <MTughan> You want a few gigabytes?
22:48 <sethy> you cant post
22:48 <sethy> something more than 700meg
22:48 <PovAddict> we can do a bigger file later
22:48 <sethy> NO
22:48 <sethy> NAO
22:48 <MTughan> More than 700MB? Wow...
22:48 <PovAddict> I want to be awake when the race ends
22:48 <sethy> oh god
22:48 <sethy> post link then
22:48 <PovAddict> lol
22:48 <PovAddict> again
22:48 <PovAddict> we can do a bigger file later
22:49 <PovAddict> linky: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_5.5.2_windows_intelx86.exe
22:49 <sethy> remind me later then
22:49 <MTughan> Done.
22:49 <PovAddict> download finished?
22:49 <MTughan> Yep.
22:49 <PovAddict> crap
22:49 <MTughan> You want MD5s?
22:49 <sethy> done
22:49 <PovAddict> I underestimated your bw
22:50 <MTughan> MD5s or SHA-1s.
22:50 <PovAddict> not so fair comparison if both did it so fast...
22:50 <PovAddict> another:
22:50 <sethy> LATER
22:50 <sethy> YOUR SMALL FILES SUCK BALLS
22:50 <PovAddict> k...
22:50 <PovAddict> 44MB?
22:50 <MTughan> Do we have a 100MB file?
22:50 <sethy> TOO SMALL
22:51 <PovAddict> 702MB?
22:51 <sethy> whats that?
22:51 <MTughan> Torrent, or HTTP?
22:51 <sethy> torrent plox
22:51 <MTughan> What's "plox"?
22:51 <sethy> please
22:51 <PovAddict> a retarded way of saying please
22:51 <MTughan> Oh...
22:51 <sethy> WETAWDED?
22:51 <PovAddict> lol
22:51 <MTughan> Torrent's fine with me.
22:51 <MTughan> sethy: I'm not retarded.
22:52 <sethy> who?
22:52 <sethy> can has 1.5Gb file?
22:52 <PovAddict> 697MB torrent going:
22:52 <PovAddict> k?
22:52 <sethy> no
22:52 <PovAddict> O CMON
22:52 <PovAddict> it's enough
22:52 <sethy> FINE
22:52 <MTughan> sethy: I've got all tomorrow.
22:53 <sethy> i dont
22:53 <MTughan> Afternoon?
22:53 * sethy waits for link
22:53 <PovAddict> go
22:53 <PovAddict> gogogogo
22:53 <sethy> going
22:54 <MTughan> Same.
22:54 <sethy> fuck you error>>
22:54 <sethy> OHSHIT
22:54 <PovAddict> did it start downloading already, for either of you?
22:54 <sethy> because i'm trying to save to the unplugged external
22:54 <sethy> ...
22:54 <MTughan> I'm getting 210KB/s down.
22:55 <PovAddict> lol
22:55 <MTughan> Gonna take an hour at this rate... >_>
22:56 <MTughan> Now we're going... 330KB/s down.
22:56 <zombie67> pov, thanks for the help
22:56 <sethy> %?
22:56 <PovAddict> zombie67: any sign of silly-task-switch so far?
22:56 <PovAddict> sethy: is yours downloading now?
22:56 <sethy> yes
22:56 <zombie67> not yet, but I have only two tasks
22:57 <zombie67> RND always thing they last 0 seconds, but end up taking many hours
22:57 <sethy> ok so i started like 1 minute later than MTughan
22:57 <MTughan> 480KB/s, 20 minutes...
22:57 <zombie67> so at the next request, it will over fetch
22:57 <sethy> because i was trying to save to F:\
22:57 <sethy> and only have C:\ on
22:57 <PovAddict> but it's a big enough file anyway
22:58 <sethy> F:\ is currently in the xbox
22:58 <sethy> MTughan: %%??
22:58 <MTughan> Over 20 minutes, 1 minutes isn't a huge difference.
22:58 <MTughan> 11.4%.
22:58 <sethy> catching up
22:58 <MTughan> 12%.
22:59 <sethy> 15%
22:59 <PovAddict> lol
22:59 <MTughan> 14.3%...
22:59 <MTughan> I can't seem to break 400KB/s now...
22:59 <sethy> 17.5%
22:59 * PovAddict injects fake TCP RST packets into sethy's connection
22:59 <MTughan> 16%. You're going to win
22:59 <sethy> ETA 13 mins
23:00 * sethy makes tea for all
23:00 <MTughan> Hey, what client are you using?
23:00 <sethy> guess
23:00 <MTughan> uTorrent?
23:00 <sethy> mhmm
23:00 <MTughan> I think I may be connected to you...
23:00 <sethy> 25%
23:00 <MTughan> Was.
23:01 <MTughan> 20.6%.
23:01 <sethy> i think my isp is kronical1
23:01 <sethy> aol fagotry
23:01 <MTughan> Where?
23:01 <PovAddict> he's on aol ^^
23:01 <sethy> england
23:01 <PovAddict> nub
23:01 <MTughan> Ah. I'm on Uniserve in Canada.
23:01 <sethy> you live in canada?
23:01 <PovAddict> yes he does
23:01 <MTughan> 184.108.40.206? Your IP?
23:02 <sethy> oh dude which province?
23:02 <sethy> 220.127.116.11
23:02 * PovAddict clearly sees where this is going
23:02 <MTughan> Ontario. Live just outside of Toronto.
23:02 <sethy> //say $ip
23:02 <MTughan> I'm not sure I know my own IP... Wait, I can get it.
23:02 <sethy> dude i love you
23:02 <sethy> just for the fact
23:02 <sethy> your canadian
23:02 <MTughan> You're*
23:02 <sethy> whatever
23:02 <sethy> pov gtfo
23:02 <MTughan> ;)
23:03 <PovAddict> lolwut
23:03 <MTughan> 18.104.22.168
23:03 <sethy> gtfo mai netz
23:03 <PovAddict> im not on ur netz
23:04 <sethy> 45%
23:05 <MTughan> 35%.
23:05 <PovAddict> zombie67: heh I think I never noticed you on the lists
23:05 <MTughan> So you're not blazingly faster than I am, but you are slightly faster.
23:05 <MTughan> 400KB/s down. You?
23:05 <PovAddict> zombie67: probably never looked at the email addy on your posts
23:06 <sethy> someone is pissing on my internet so its going 450-750
23:06 <zombie67> I rarely post any more
23:06 <sethy> 50%
23:06 <MTughan> Yeah... 750 is out of my range.
23:06 <zombie67> I used to post quite a bit more during the earlier 5.8 era
23:06 <PovAddict> I do recognize your name, I just didn't map it with "zombie67"
23:06 <MTughan> 40%.
23:08 <zombie67> you notice I found JM7's post in the archive
23:08 <PovAddict> yeah
23:09 <MTughan> 50%.
23:09 <zombie67> that was with .20
23:09 <zombie67> so I doubt anything was fixed with .21
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23:11 <MTughan> 'lo BB. sethy and I are having a bandwidth race.
23:11 <sethy> 70%
23:11 <MTughan> Who can download Kubuntu fastest. 60%.
23:12 <BadBarbarian> lol
23:12 <sethy> 75%
23:14 <MTughan> 490KB/s 71%.
23:14 <sethy> 460kb/s 84%
23:16 <sethy> 90%
23:16 <MTughan> 79%. You have me beat.
23:17 * PovAddict injects fake TCP RST packets into sethy's connection
23:17 <sethy> fine
23:17 <Romulus> I think there is no way to opt out of control at times...
23:17 <sethy> i know how you feel rommy
23:18 <MTughan> 85%...
23:18 <sethy> 98%
23:18 <sethy> 99%
23:18 <sethy> .3
23:18 <sethy> .2
23:18 <sethy> .1
23:18 <sethy> .0
23:18 <sethy> done
23:19 <MTughan> Yeah, you're faster. Nice.
23:19 <MTughan> 90%.
23:19 <zombie67> nite all
23:19 <PovAddict> nite
23:19 <MTughan> Night.
23:19 <sethy> night
23:19 * sethy points at PovAddict
23:19 *** zombie67 has quit IRC
23:19 <sethy> nite
23:19 <MTughan> 12:20AM there...
23:20 <sethy> 04:20:00
23:20 <MTughan> 23:20:35
23:20 <PovAddict> MTughan: I once stayed up till 4 am *my time* talking to seth, calculate what time it was there
23:20 <MTughan> 8AM.
23:21 <MTughan> 99%...
23:22 <MTughan> Done.
23:22 <sethy> congrats
23:22 <sethy> you officially lost
23:22 <BadBarbarian> lol
23:22 <MTughan> So about 3 minutes apart. Over about 30 minutes, that's not bad.
23:22 <sethy> and it was 7:00 am actually
23:22 <sethy> and i had to go to school
23:22 <sethy> so i was fuked
23:22 <MTughan> lol
23:23 <MTughan> My times must be off... Oh well.
23:23 <PovAddict> ugh I just noticed...
23:23 <PovAddict> MTughan: do you have webdeveloper firefox toolbar?
23:23 <MTughan> Firebug?
23:23 <PovAddict> the webdev toolbar would make it more clear... but ok
23:24 <MTughan> What about it?
23:24 <PovAddict> on webdev toolbar: highlight -> highlight tables
23:24 <PovAddict> on firebug: click Inspect and click on a news item
23:24 <Romulus> Title: Metalinker.org (at www.metalinker.org)
23:25 <PovAddict> 4 or 5 levels of table nesting
23:25 <MTughan> Looks like 4. Nice.
23:26 <PovAddict> :-\
23:26 <sethy> whoever has 809.11 should be shot
23:26 * sethy goes toilet
23:26 <MTughan> 809.11?
23:27 <PovAddict> sounds like a wifi standard
23:27 <MTughan> I know 802.11 is wireless...
23:27 <MTughan> :o Just looked at it more carefully. 7 levels...
23:27 <sethy> i mean 802
23:28 <PovAddict> what do you think about it?
23:28 <MTughan> Which 802.11? a, b, g, n?
23:28 <PovAddict> needing a redesign?
23:28 <MTughan> PovAddict: Probably.
23:28 <sethy> i always keep thinking its 809 for some erason
23:28 * sethy wonders is PovAddict will elbow sethy in the neck
23:29 <MTughan> 802.11b sucked. Never tried 802.11a. 802.11g isn't bad. Really want 802.11n.
23:30 <sethy> can has 802.8 plox?
23:30 <MTughan> Sorry. Doesn't exist, as I know.
23:31 <Romulus> GrooveStix: either with adept or type in user's names on Win and Lin, gets confusing
23:31 <sethy> fibre
23:32 <MTughan> 802.8 is fiber optics?
23:32 <sethy> aye
23:32 <MTughan> Interesting.
23:32 <sethy> .7 is BB
23:33 <MTughan> Well, even though I don't have any school tomorrow, my mom still wants me to go to bed. Bye all.
23:33 <BadBarbarian> lol and here i am lucky to have 1 meg download
23:33 <sethy> bye D:
23:33 <BadBarbarian> nite
23:34 <sethy> bye
23:34 <sethy> everyone hates me <3
23:34 <MTughan> >:)
23:35 <BadBarbarian> sethy have you heard any thing about the new amd quad
23:35 <MTughan> Barcelona?
23:35 <BadBarbarian> yes
23:35 <MTughan> I haven't... Be interesting to hear.
23:36 <BadBarbarian> i cant find any amd vs intel with the benchmarks included
23:36 <sethy> nopers, whai?
23:36 * sethy eats chunkie
23:36 <BadBarbarian> :-(
23:37 <sethy> !google amd vs intel benchmarks
23:37 <BadBarbarian> :-)
23:37 <PovAddict> &google fight intel amd
23:37 <Romulus> PovAddict: intel: 16300000, amd: 9880000
23:37 <sethy> != good ?
23:37 <BadBarbarian> quad xenon
23:37 <MTughan> Those are our benchmarks? :P
23:37 <MTughan> &google amd vs intel benchmarks
23:38 <Romulus> MTughan: Search took 0.09 seconds: AMD vs . Intel : It's An Eternal Struggle - PCSTATS.com: <http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1194>; AMD vs . Intel : AMD Challenges Intel to a Dual-Core Duel: <http://www.amd.com/duel>; AMD vs . Intel Dual-Core 64-bit Windows Performance Shootout ...: <http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1860212,00.asp>; Real Gaming Challenge: Intel vs . AMD: (3 more messages)
23:38 <BadBarbarian> or core quad
23:38 <MTughan> &more
23:38 <Romulus> MTughan: <http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1854726,00.asp>; Processor benchmarks : Intel versus AMD Tech Guide in Components ...: <http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/components/0,1000001694,39164010,00.htm>; AMD desktop chips edge ahead of Intel | Tech News on ZDNet: <http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9584_22-5322290.html>; Â» The benchmark war: AMD vs . Intel | Paul Murphy | ZDNet.com: (2 more messages)
23:38 <MTughan> &more
23:38 <Romulus> MTughan: <http://blogs.zdnet.com/Murphy/?p=838>; The main event-2003-08-01- AMD vs . Intel : is clock speed the only ...: <http://www.computeruser.com/articles/daily/12,84,1,0801,03.html>; Intel Core 2 Duo vs AMD Athlon 64 FX-62 | Reg Hardware: <http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/07/27/core_2_duo_vs_athlon_64_fx-62/>; SimHQ.com - Technology Zone - Feature: Dueling Dual Cores: AMD vs ...: (1 more message)
23:38 <MTughan> &more
23:38 <Romulus> MTughan: <http://www.simhq.com/_technology/technology_055a.html>
23:38 <sethy> but intel do computers
23:38 <sethy> and laptops
23:38 <sethy> so thats not a fair fight
23:38 <PovAddict> floodie
23:38 <MTughan> There's your results.
23:39 <BadBarbarian> lol we were talking of quadcores
23:39 <sethy> &more MTughan
23:39 <Romulus> sethy: Error: That's all, there is no more.
23:39 <MTughan> You can do that?
23:39 <MTughan> &weather Toronto
23:39 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 50Â°F / 10Â°C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1022hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h | Updated: 11:00 PM EDT; Tonight - Cloudy periods. Wind northwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light this evening. Low 4C(39F).; Thursday - A mix of sun and cloud. Wind becoming east 20 km/h (12 mph) in the afternoon. High 13C(55F). UV index 3 or moderate. (1 more message)
23:39 <PovAddict> &more MTughan
23:39 <Romulus> PovAddict: Thursday night a few clouds. Increasing cloudiness overnight. Wind east 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light overnight. Low 9C(48F).; Friday - Cloudy with 40 percent chance of showers. High 14C(57F).;
23:39 <sethy> OMG SPAM
23:39 <MTughan> Interesting...
23:39 <BadBarbarian> lol
23:39 <PovAddict> &help more
23:39 <Romulus> PovAddict: (more [<nick>]) -- If the last command was truncated due to IRC message length limitations, returns the next chunk of the result of the last command. If <nick> is given, it takes the continuation of the last command from <nick> instead of the person sending this message.
23:40 <sethy> ohlord
23:40 *** PovAddict has quit IRC
23:40 <MTughan> Hehe...
23:40 <MTughan> Oops.
23:41 <sethy> speaking of weather i wonder if jay fixed the uk thing
23:41 <sethy> &weather leeds, england
23:41 <Romulus> sethy: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
23:41 *** PovAddict has joined #boinc
23:41 <MTughan> That was nice...
23:41 <Romulus> obviously, someone is here, ok, is there a picture of yarmouth dock..
23:41 <sethy> PMSL
23:41 <sethy> also rommy hates me
23:41 <PovAddict> I went a bit far spamming sethy
23:42 <BadBarbarian> &weather williams az
23:42 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 42.6°F / 5.9°C | Humidity: 41% | Pressure: 23.89in / 808.9hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows 27 to 37. Light winds.; Thursday - Sunny. Highs 68 to 74. Light winds.; Thursday Night - Mostly clear. Lows 27 to 37. Light winds.;
23:43 <PovAddict> somebody was going to bed and it wasn't me
23:43 <sethy> yes
23:43 <MTughan> Was me, but I'm reconsidering.
23:43 <sethy> you
23:43 <sethy> b@$%$
23:43 <MTughan> >:)
23:44 <BadBarbarian> :-)
23:44 * sethy sleeps in PovAddict's bed
23:45 <sethy> aww people love me
23:45 <MTughan> Meh.
23:45 <PovAddict> not
23:46 <sethy> if only mother was here
23:46 *** idleone_ is now known as IdleOne
23:46 <sethy> she'd kick all your ass's
23:46 <MTughan> 'lo IdleOne
23:46 <PovAddict> heh can I use my usual defense?
23:46 <PovAddict> "I have your password"
23:46 <sethy> well no because of her back
23:47 <PovAddict> I'm compiling gcc
23:47 <PovAddict> ...wow
23:47 <PovAddict> a single gcc instance has been running for 2 minutes
23:47 <sethy> i dont thinkg MTughan knows who i'm talking about
23:47 <sethy> splain
23:47 <MTughan> No, I don't.
23:47 <PovAddict> huh?
23:48 <IdleOne> hello MTughan
23:48 <sethy> no?
23:48 <PovAddict> OH YEA
23:48 <PovAddict> lol
23:48 * PovAddict just finished putting all pieces together
23:48 <PovAddict> yeah I know who you're talking about
23:48 <PovAddict> wonder what happened to her
23:49 <BadBarbarian> nite all
23:49 <PovAddict> nite BB
23:49 <MTughan> Night.
23:49 <PovAddict> bored
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23:49 <PovAddict> o i know
23:49 <PovAddict> hmm should I...
23:50 <PovAddict> yeaa
23:50 <PovAddict> damn
23:50 <PovAddict> sethy: you changed your nickserv pw :(
23:51 <sethy> PovAddict: dont forget the reason why i told you my pass
23:51 * PovAddict thinks
23:51 <PovAddict> what was it
23:51 <PovAddict> o.o
23:52 <PovAddict> so I could get on your account for... something
23:52 <sethy> also i'll be dead within 1 minute of you saying it nomatter the situation :)
23:52 <PovAddict> wut
23:52 <PovAddict> PM me the reason I really don't remember
23:53 <sethy> password
23:53 <PovAddict> sethy: PovAddict: dont forget the reason why i told you my pass <- I forgot already
23:55 <sethy> i just /msg'd you
23:56 <MTughan> O_O OS X Leopard: "9GB of available disk space"
23:56 <PovAddict> sethy I msg'd you back
23:57 <sethy> but now is not the right time to be talking about passwords because jenn was haxored lately again and i'm not too happy about it
23:57 <sethy> tis resolved but still
23:58 <PovAddict> gone
23:58 <sethy> i know its probably nothing to be worrying about but i think she has enough on her plate being subjected to ID Theft
23:59 <sethy> bai
23:59 <sethy> also hope you read that PovAddict ^^
23:59 <PovAddict> did