IRC logs of #boinc for Sunday, 2007-10-28

00:00 <PovAddict> agh, I mean SIMD

00:00 <PovAddict> I always type that wrong

00:01 <PovAddict> Single Instruction Multiple Data

00:01 <PovAddict> like SSE

00:01 <PovAddict> I dunno exactly what instruction set the RaVi demo takes advantage of...

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00:21 <efc> hmmm do i have an excuse to buy some more memory. 1.25 gigs.

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00:50 <PovAddict> will LHC ever upgrade?

00:50 <PovAddict> do I have to make forum posts exploiting the XSS bug and steal some account keys?

00:51 <Romulus> Let me just thinking about setting up my computer beeps with this picture?

00:51 <PovAddict> re-hacking my client state to get more LHC work, brb

00:53 <efc> i love retailers that offer to sell me two items for more than the price of the individual items

00:53 <PovAddict> :|

00:54 <zombie67> heh

00:54 <zombie67> i saw yours...

00:54 <zombie67> did you see mine?

00:54 <PovAddict> your what?

00:55 <zombie67> post @ lhc

00:55 <PovAddict> complaining about 4-CPU limit?

00:55 <PovAddict> ah last one

00:55 <PovAddict> just seen

00:57 <PovAddict> in 25 minutes I'll get more work

00:57 <zombie67> RS just hit "it", but I just can't understand that stuff

00:58 <PovAddict> what I don't understand is why it says last sched RPC too recent...

00:58 <PovAddict> how does it know?

00:58 <PovAddict> isn't the last RPC time kept per-host?

00:58 <PovAddict> (better be)

00:59 <PovAddict> I changed my hostid on the client_state.xml, that gets past the quota limit, but it *still* knows my last request was too recent; HOW?

00:59 <zombie67> over my head...

00:59 <PovAddict> ohh

00:59 <PovAddict> it reassigned me the same hostid

01:00 <PovAddict> f***ing bastard

01:01 <PovAddict> can't get rid of that!

01:03 <zombie67> host id is in several places

01:03 <zombie67> LHC used to create multiple machines.

01:03 <zombie67> took making them all the same to stop it

01:03 <PovAddict> if the client_state had hostid 0, it was assigning you a new ID

01:04 <PovAddict> but the ID wasn't properly returned to the client

01:04 <PovAddict> so client still had hostid 0

01:04 <PovAddict> loop repeated, and you kept getting new hostids

01:04 <zombie67> the point is that it is stored in several places

01:04 <PovAddict> well, now I set my hostid to 0 manually, and it reassigns me the old one

01:04 <PovAddict> I grepped my whole BOINC directory for 9635939 and it's not anywhere else than where I'm changing it

01:05 <zombie67> just a sec

01:06 <PovAddict> GOT IT

01:06 <zombie67> sched request

01:07 <PovAddict> sched_request is just a temporary file used while doing the requests

01:07 <PovAddict> if you delete all the sched_request_* and sched_reply_* files while BOINC isn't doing any scheduler request, everything will still work great

01:08 <zombie67> so what is the secret?

01:08 <PovAddict> I dunno yet

01:08 <zombie67> thought you said you got it?

01:08 <PovAddict> I used an invalid hostid (one that doesn't exist or at least I don't own)

01:08 <PovAddict> but I changed other things too

01:08 <PovAddict> so I don't know which of the changes I did is the silver bullet

01:09 <PovAddict> got me a new host CPID

01:09 <zombie67> I see BOINCstats problems in your fututre

01:10 <PovAddict> my *host* CPIDs are an unsolvable problem

01:10 <PovAddict> or at least, a problem I won't bother to fix

01:10 <PovAddict> my user CPID is stable for now

01:10 <zombie67> another problem w/ lhc server age

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01:26 * PovAddict merges his new host

01:28 <zombie67> how?

01:29 <PovAddict> my tweak got me work but generated a new host entry

01:29 <PovAddict> so now I merged it

01:29 <PovAddict> that's all

01:31 <zombie67> but how did you merge?  I have not been able to get ahat to work at lhc

01:31 <PovAddict> works fine for me

01:31 <PovAddict> but it was only one host with another

01:32 <PovAddict> merging hundreds of hosts doesn't work correctly, you need to do it in smaller bunches

01:32 <zombie67> yeah

01:32 <zombie67> that is what I cannot do

01:32 <zombie67> that is another complaint I have madeon their boards

01:32 <PovAddict> you need to merge it with a few hosts repeatedly

01:32 <PovAddict> but I think that's a current BOINC bug

01:32 <zombie67> no, an old bug

01:33 <zombie67> the new version works great

01:33 <PovAddict> could be some server setting; latest code has the same actual problem: it uses GET instead of POST

01:34 <PovAddict> using GET means all the host ids get appended to the URL, making a REALLY LONG URL

01:35 <zombie67> older servers cannot merge "similar" or even "exactly the same" hosts

01:35 <PovAddict> that's a different bug

01:36 <zombie67> newer version can merge even similar machines

01:36 <PovAddict> what I'm talking about is when you select hundreds of hosts, click merge, and get a blank page

01:36 <PovAddict> so you need to do it in smaller amounts

01:36 <zombie67> ah

01:36 <zombie67> different problem I am having at LHC

01:36 <PovAddict> if you don't even get the other hosts on the list... yeah

01:36 <PovAddict> that has been tweaked a lot

01:37 <zombie67> why is it so damn difficult to get projects to keep their servers up to daye

01:38 <zombie67> date?

01:38 <PovAddict> the older the code they have, the harder it is to upgrade

01:39 <PovAddict> but if they keep up, it's a matter of minutes

01:39 <PovAddict> example:

01:39 <PovAddict> downloading newer code

01:40 <zombie67> that's just the mechanics

01:40 <PovAddict> compiling - but it said "Nothing to be done" - nothing in the C++ code was modified since last upgrade

01:40 <PovAddict> running upgrade script

01:40 <zombie67> the real issue behind the problem is neglect

01:40 <PovAddict> yes I want to overwrite files

01:40 <PovAddict> and done, I just upgraded IMP as I typed here what I was doing

01:41 <zombie67> I think some projects just take the BOINC side for granted, or lose interest

01:41 <PovAddict> oh, a DB update to be done, country name fix

01:41 <zombie67> hmmm....project still down

01:42 <PovAddict> and upgraded DB too

01:42 <PovAddict> it's nowhere near "hard" if the projects keep up

01:42 <PovAddict> I used to have my custom validator/assimilator on a separate directory, so every now and then I had to recompile those with the latest BOINC code too

01:43 <PovAddict> if I keep those files along with the main BOINC code, I don't even need a separate step

01:45 <PovAddict> 2 minutes to go for my LHC workunits

01:45 <PovAddict> I'll see if I can repeat my trick to get even more than two

01:45 <PovAddict> I had forgotten to suspend other projects

01:50 <PovAddict> success

01:50 <PovAddict> got two more, ignoring the RPC delay

01:50 <PovAddict> btw, what happens if I download work with one host id and return it back with another?

01:51 <zombie67> BTW, like the script you posted for linux, to make current clients act like 5.10.13

01:51 <zombie67> of, good question!

01:52 <zombie67> while bash is default for osx, i use csh

01:52 <zombie67> it is what I grew up on unix

01:52 <PovAddict> does boinc for osx come with boinccmd?

01:53 <zombie67> no seeing it

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02:50 <zombie67> pov, notice how my email to the alpha list was completely ignored?

03:10 <quail> w00t, I have been asked to be site maintainer for Me TV cause of the blog entry I done :-)

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03:14 <freelarry> humm 3 machines powered down now and this room starting to cool off some

03:15 <freelarry> will finally be able to turn this machine off when i get off it tonight

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03:59 <sethy> !

03:59 <sethy> PovAddict asleep?

04:00 <sethy> ass leap

04:00 <c0dewarrior> is he ever awake?

04:00 * c0dewarrior hides

04:00 <sethy> yes he is

04:00 <sethy> his time is GMT-3 so .....

04:01 <sethy> i think you might be able to help me

04:01 <sethy> an application that makes windows more transparent, (for windows, not linux)

04:02 <c0dewarrior> yeah?

04:03 <sethy> do you know of any?

04:04 <c0dewarrior> you talking about system-wide or just a single application?

04:05 <c0dewarrior> as for system wide you should use compiz or beryl

04:05 <sethy> i said windows, not linux

04:05 <sethy> and systemwide

04:05 <sethy> but i think i foind one

04:05 <c0dewarrior> grin, apologies... misread

04:06 <c0dewarrior> sadly no... don't use windows that much

04:06 <sethy> i found one

04:06 <sethy> :D

04:06 <Romulus> <> (at

04:32 <sethy> i would like to begin to understand how md5 hashes work to download

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05:32 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

05:32 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 41.5F / 5.3C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 30.50in / 1032.7hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny. Highs in the mid 50s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Clear. Areas of frost late. Lows in the lower 30s. Light northeast winds.; Monday - Sunny. Areas of frost early. Highs around 60. Light southeast winds...becoming (1 more message)

05:32 <CoderForLife> &more

05:32 <Romulus> CoderForLife: southwest in the afternoon.; Freeze Watch for Hamilton County in effect until 6:00 AM EDT on October 28, 2007;

05:32 <CoderForLife> Jack Frost makes his appearance

05:37 <freelarry> snow in mountains here - i think a few ski resorts already open or about to open

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05:54 * CoderForLife wonders if he could open a ski resort at his house

05:57 <CoderForLife> my slopes would rank as "red", and the multitude of trees would earn the "diamond"

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06:06 <CoderForLife> brb   breakfast

06:09 <quail> CoderForLife: hiya Don, how are you?

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06:15 <CoderForLife> b

06:19 <c0dewarrior> c

06:27 <quail> d

06:28 <CoderForLife> z

06:29 <quail> CoderForLife: hiya Don, how are you?

06:30 <quail> CoderForLife: you know my blog entry about Me TV, well cause of my blog entry I got offered to join the project :-)

06:31 <CoderForLife> congrats

06:31 * CoderForLife reads about pulsed detonation wave engines

06:35 <quail> kewl

06:35 <quail> and thanks

06:37 <CoderForLife> bbiab

06:42 <quail> k

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06:56 <CoderForLife> b

07:09 <CoderForLife> brb

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08:08 <CoderForLife> morning Jay

08:18 <MTughan> 260 messages... And you overloaded my chat history... Okay, I'm not reading it all.

08:21 <xcamel> 'mornin

08:21 <MTughan> Darn it... And off again. :P

08:21 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

08:23 <xcamel> gonna have to keep an eye out today.. the bait chicken was gone this morning...

08:24 <CoderForLife> ut-oh

08:25 * CoderForLife continues watching the Google video explaining the AMT

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09:03 <xcamel> the AMT is evil.

09:04 <xcamel> and a favorite bastard child of the left.

09:04 <c0dewarrior> url?

09:05 <xcamel> you don't need it - it's part of our idiotic tax system.

09:05 <xcamel> it would cause your brain to melt.

09:05 <c0dewarrior> ah, don't worry... it sucks all around

09:06 <xcamel> you folks still have the rand, and the gold rand?

09:06 <c0dewarrior> kruger rands

09:07 <c0dewarrior> yeah, we don't have the automatic infinite money press like over there

09:07 <xcamel> we don't either... that's a myth.

09:07 <c0dewarrior> ehrm.....

09:07 <xcamel> I thought your currency was still based on two standards

09:08 <Romulus> good enough - 2 of us here I is...

09:09 <xcamel> damn sinuses...

09:10 <xcamel> pressure went up way to fast from yesterday..

09:20 <xcamel> although it is beautiful out..

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09:22 <sethy> hmm

09:22 <sethy> i have this computer upstairs my dad brought home and it has some virus on it

09:23 <sethy> cant run any applications cant open any files

09:23 <sethy> cant change any settings

09:24 <sethy> any idea's?

09:26 <sethy> tis windows btw

09:26 <xcamel> low level format, reinstall os

09:26 <sethy> XP Pro SP2

09:26 <xcamel> good luck

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09:27 <sethy> there is a recovery console on startup...

09:27 <sethy> but it asks for administrator password

09:27 <xcamel> try all of the obvious passwords

09:27 <sethy> admin doesnt work

09:27 <sethy> pass doesnt work

09:27 <sethy>   doesnt work

09:28 <xcamel> check online - there is a way to recover it

09:28 <wdsmia-afk> morn all

09:28 <xcamel> 'lo Doug

09:28 <sethy> would oph-crack crack it or just the LM + NT Hashes?

09:29 <quail> hiya Doug and Jay and sethy

09:29 <sethy> hi dale

09:29 <sethy> hi wdsmia-afk

09:30 * wdsmia-afk need lots more coffee

09:31 <quail> it beer time here

09:31 * sethy makes self some tea

09:40 * sethy needs bigger cup

09:40 <sethy> also

09:40 <sethy> xcamel the monitor died ;_;

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09:47 <CoderForLife> back

09:47 <CoderForLife> yeah - I hadn't heard it explained before

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09:48 <CoderForLife> Google Talks are interesting

09:48 <sethy> high CoderForLife && BadBarbarian

09:48 <BadBarbarian> morning sethy

09:49 <sethy> g'afternoon

09:49 <BadBarbarian> & cfl

09:49 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Error: You need to have PySQLite installed to use this plugin.  Download it at <>

09:49 <CoderForLife> this is the one I watched

09:49 <Romulus> <> (at

09:49 <sethy> !

09:49 <CoderForLife> hello BB

09:49 <CoderForLife> hello sethy

09:49 <sethy> hello

09:50 <BadBarbarian> lol 6:44 am here in arizona

09:50 <sethy> 13:50:22

09:50 <quail> it 0021 hrs here

09:50 <sethy> had to set clocks back this morning

09:50 <BadBarbarian> where are you europe

09:50 * sethy sighs

09:51 <sethy> United Kingdom

09:51 <BadBarbarian> kk

09:51 <sethy> ...of fagotry

09:51 * CoderForLife chuckles

09:51 * quail had to put clocks ahead 1hrs last night but have not done it

09:52 <sethy> i dont get it actually

09:52 <BadBarbarian> here in arizona we don't do daylight saving time

09:52 <BadBarbarian> lol

09:52 <sethy> 1) WHY set them back its confusing

09:52 <sethy> 2) IF you forget to set it back 1 hour how does it become  2 hours ahead?

09:53 <BadBarbarian> i have no idea we are the only state in the USA that wont do it lol

09:53 <sethy> we have GMT and BST which just takes the michael

09:55 <BadBarbarian> sunrise here and its beutiful

09:55 <sethy> sunset here and its boring

09:56 <BadBarbarian> moutains help

09:56 <sethy> the failed youth generation of today doesnt help

09:57 <sethy> thankfully i hope to move to canada after college, and do database administration in uni

09:57 <sethy> long live calgary

09:58 <BadBarbarian> that will be nice its 1000 miles north of me

09:58 <sethy> i'll pop down for a visit?

09:58 <BadBarbarian> np

09:58 <sethy> put the kettle on and stock on tea bags

09:59 <sethy> xD

09:59 <BadBarbarian> already there lol

09:59 <sethy> wait 1000?

09:59 <BadBarbarian> i drink it on ice though lol

09:59 <sethy> isnt that like...

09:59 <sethy> a state and half

09:59 <BadBarbarian> 2 1/2

10:00 <sethy> wtf

10:00 <sethy> unless i hitch-hike it i dont see how i'm getting there

10:00 <sethy> unless i miracculously walk it

10:00 <BadBarbarian> utah and montana are north on here

10:00 <BadBarbarian> of

10:02 <BadBarbarian> brb tea time

10:02 <sethy> Tea or 'Tea' ?

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10:44 <bryanUC> PovAddict: we do not have a screensaver on RS

10:54 <sethy> &drumroll

10:54 <Romulus> sethy: Error: You need to have PySQLite installed to use this plugin.  Download it at <>

10:54 <sethy> :(

10:54 <sethy> its needed

10:55 * sethy imitates "dun dun chh!!~~

10:57 <BadBarbarian> Doh

11:01 <sethy> problem?

11:01 <BadBarbarian> lol spilled my tea

11:02 <sethy> aww

11:02 * sethy hands BadBarbarian a cloth

11:02 <BadBarbarian> thanx

11:02 <Romulus> I don't have to be subtly broken by having rosetta running.

11:08 * quail just put together a quick man page for Me TV


11:36 <MTughan> Hehe... You're going to Calgary. You can visit me. Only two provinces between us then.

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11:39 <sethy> i told you i want to study in canada

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11:40 <MTughan> Yay! ^^

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13:04 <zombie67> has work

13:04 <Romulus> Title: NNSIMU Project (at

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13:21 <MTughan> sethy: How's Fedora?

13:21 <sethy> didnt run very well

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13:21 <sethy> nor did sabayon 1.1pro

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13:21 <sethy> bye everyone?

13:23 <MTughan> What do you mean, they didn't run very well?

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13:47 <MTughan> 'lo e

13:47 <efc> hey

13:47 <sethy> chinese people are chinese

13:47 <MTughan> Apparently, has work. From zombie67.

13:47 <sethy> wem

13:47 <Romulus> Title: NNSIMU Project (at

13:48 <MTughan> sethy: Um... yes?

13:48 <sethy> oh

13:48 <sethy> erm

13:48 <MTughan> If Chinese people weren't Chinese, that would be a bit of a contradiction, wouldn't it?

13:48 <sethy> sabayon1.1pro comes standard running at 1600x12** something and my monitor doesnt run anything higher than 1024x768

13:49 <MTughan> LCD monitor?

13:49 <sethy> and no

13:49 <sethy> no

13:49 <sethy> crt

13:49 <sethy> and they could be russian in discuise

13:49 <MTughan> CRT should be able to handle anything up to 1600x1200...

13:49 <sethy> in which case, russian people are chinese

13:49 <sethy> EXCEPT MY CRT COS ITS OLD?

13:49 <MTughan> Even then. How old?

13:50 <sethy> well it looks yellow instead of white from the nicotine

13:50 <sethy> and i dont smoke...

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13:50 <MTughan> Can you get a manufacturing date?

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13:50 <sethy> its like 8-9 years old

13:50 <sethy> maybe older

13:50 <MTughan> Okay, that's old... I have maybe 6-7 year old monitors that can handle 1600x1200.

13:51 <sethy> i'm older than you

13:51 <MTughan> Really?

13:51 <sethy> no

13:51 <sethy> i still beleive i'm youngest here

13:51 <sethy> 1991

13:51 <MTughan> That's what I thought. PovAddict is 16 as I know...

13:51 <MTughan> July 1990 for me.

13:52 <sethy> i thought pov was 17

13:52 <sethy> HE LIES TO US BOTH

13:52 <MTughan> I don't think so.

13:52 <sethy> hold

13:53 <MTughan> Ah, we're both sort of right. December 1990.

13:53 <sethy> | PovAddict (nicolas) | 1990-12-17 |

13:53 <sethy> he'd 17

13:53 <sethy> like i saidz

13:53 <MTughan> Almost 17. Still 16.

13:53 <sethy> yes

13:53 <sethy> very well

13:54 <sethy> my math skills sucks

13:54 <sethy> feb 6th 1991 for me

13:54 * sethy powerfists the air

13:54 <desti> 2007-10-28 18:53:54 [---] [error] Proposed work request 286483.508954 bigger than max 174528.000000

13:54 <desti> 0o

13:54 <MTughan> Ah, so you're slightly older than my cat.

13:54 <sethy> big mac?

13:54 <sethy> CAT

13:54 <MTughan> She's June 1st 1991.

13:55 * sethy points at your cat

13:55 <sethy> OLDAR THAN YOU

13:55 <MTughan> And yes, my cat.

13:55 <MTughan> lol

13:55 <sethy> sethy > MTughan's cat

13:55 <MTughan> MTughan's cat > MTughan's sister

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13:56 <sethy> morn fl

13:56 <MTughan> 'lo Larry

13:58 <freelarry> morn sethy MTughan

14:01 <freelarry> room gets chilly when only 2 machines are working

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14:04 * wdsmia has socks older than MTughan, sethy, and PovAddict

14:04 <MTughan> lol

14:05 <sethy> but not older than us combined

14:05 <MTughan> That's what, about 51?

14:05 * freelarry has a suit that is 34 yrs old - and still fits

14:07 <freelarry> yes its one that i was wearing when i was PovAddict age

14:07 <MTughan> So... You're about 50 years old now?

14:08 <freelarry> as of january

14:08 <freelarry> cmeing that is

14:08 <freelarry> coming

14:08 <MTughan> So 49, coming up on 50 in January.

14:08 <freelarry> yup

14:08 <MTughan> Cool...

14:08 <MTughan> Old timer. :P

14:09 <freelarry> lol but not the oldest around here ;)

14:09 * freelarry wonders if that is why he has such a hard time learning to program

14:10 * sethy looks in jays general direction

14:10 <sethy> isnt he a prime ?

14:11 <sethy> no he's not older

14:12 <freelarry> nah hes only in third childhood

14:12 <sethy> lilo is older

14:15 <freelarry> well noticed something that has changed for ufluids when using 5.10.2x - when a unit ends due to exceeding max time the claimed cpu and credit is 0

14:15 <sethy> !

14:15 <freelarry> used to at least show time and claimed credit that he would issue later for the work you did

14:16 <freelarry> yeah a bummer when max time is set to 60+hrs

14:16 <MTughan> O_O

14:17 <freelarry> so may as well abort the rest of this series so that machines can get secured earlier

14:19 <efc> are there some more math oriented projects yet? Like goloumb rulers or something like that

14:20 <PovAddict> yoyo@home is doing goloumb rulers

14:20 <sethy> PovAddict had icecream

14:20 <efc> oo that would be nice

14:20 <PovAddict> sort of a BOINC proxy to the goloumb ruler project

14:23 <PovAddict> zombie67: re: has work

14:23 <Romulus> Title: NNSIMU Project (at

14:23 <PovAddict> you crunch in projects that don't have forums and don't say what they do?

14:25 <MTughan> Nice...

14:25 <MTughan> You could be part of a botnet or something.

14:25 <Romulus> supposedly they are saved when boinc contacts the server

14:25 <efc> I wish I could think of some good projects. I used to be interested in magic cubes, but don't think anybody else is these days.

14:25 <MTughan> Magic cubes? You mean the numbers?

14:25 <PovAddict> from a security standpoint, attaching to an unknown project has the *exact same* consequences of downloading programs from unknown sources

14:26 <MTughan> Yeah...

14:26 * PovAddict registers

14:26 <PovAddict> :P

14:26 <PovAddict> zombie67: by repeating my hostid trick, I can get unlimited amounts of work from LHC

14:26 <efc> yeah the 3d equiv of magic squares

14:27 <PovAddict> efc: rubik cube?

14:27 <efc> no

14:27 <zombie67> cool

14:27 <efc> wiki doesn't mention any ongoing research so maybe they solved them all

14:27 <efc> last book i read there were a lot of unknowns

14:27 <MTughan> How old was it?

14:28 <zombie67> whoops, gotta go

14:28 <MTughan> No answer about NNSIMU?

14:28 <PovAddict> something about neural networks

14:28 <PovAddict> still, seems hackers would like the idea

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14:28 <efc> 15 years or more

14:28 <PovAddict> best way to get lots of people download and run your trojans: put it on a boinc project

14:29 <efc> botnet@home

14:29 <MTughan> PovAddict: I could probably say the same for IMPFarm@Home, except I know who runs it and can see the results.

14:29 <efc> wait, microsoft already did that

14:29 <MTughan> lol

14:29 <efc> the .botnet framework

14:29 <MTughan> efc: Yeah, 15 years would be plenty of time for a whole host of magic squares to be solved.

14:29 <PovAddict> MTughan: because it doesn't say what it does?

14:29 <MTughan> rofl about .BOTNET.

14:30 <MTughan> PovAddict: Yeah, I don't think it did. I can't confirm that right now.

14:30 <MTughan> There's not even a server status link on that page...

14:30 <PovAddict> then people should think twice before attaching

14:31 <MTughan> Plus you need(ed) a key to join.

14:31 <MTughan> Any progress on the DB merger?

14:32 <MTughan> I did actually get the forum page earlier today...

14:32 <PovAddict> nothing at all

14:32 <PovAddict> the forum page was enabled because I upgraded the code

14:32 <MTughan> Ah, that makes sense now.

14:32 <PovAddict> while ranting about how quick it is to do an upgrade, and how most projects don't bother doing it

14:32 <freelarry> PovAddict if you need nix up some time let me know and i will power it up

14:33 <MTughan> Nix?

14:33 <freelarry> right now have 4 machines powered down and other 3 trying to finish cpdn units

14:33 <freelarry> machine here PovAddict started render at home on

14:33 <MTughan> Ah.

14:33 <MTughan> I thought you had meant Unix or something, but that didn't make sense.

14:33 <PovAddict> yeah

14:33 <PovAddict> only machine of his with Linux, so he calls it *nix, why not

14:34 <freelarry> well only machine that linux on thatis primary

14:34 <MTughan> Ah.

14:35 <freelarry> well time for me to start doing my daily running before commute

14:35 <freelarry> evryone have a great day

14:36 <efc> later FL

14:36 <MTughan> Bye.

14:36 *** freelarry has quit IRC

14:36 <efc> its sad when you've already seen all the junk they are running on scifi

14:38 <efc> i guess they get bulk discounts on decapitations from the effects house

14:39 * sethy yawns in PovAddict's face

14:39 <PovAddict> gtfo

14:39 <sethy> i'm not on to begin with

14:40 <MTughan> That could be out, not off.

14:40 <efc> "Yes this is sci-fi productions, we need 2,000 gallons of semi-realistic blood.. yes this will be on mastercard"

14:40 <MTughan> lol

14:40 <sethy> origionally off unless specified

14:46 * sethy has $25 coin

14:46 <MTughan> lol

14:46 <sethy> cos i'm cool like that

14:46 <MTughan> I have a 50 cent coin.

14:47 <sethy> my coin is better

14:47 <MTughan> I have Tobymac. Beat that.

14:48 <sethy> i has proof

14:48 <sethy>

14:48 <Romulus> <> (at

14:48 <sethy> beet that

14:48 * MTughan is listening to All In (Letting Go) / Mr. Talkbox Interlude by Tobymac from Portable Sounds

14:48 <MTughan> Proof.

14:49 * sethy is listening to MTughan's Lies [12Kb/s]

14:49 * MTughan is listening to Ignition by Tobymac from Portable Sounds

14:50 * sethy is listening to More of - MTughan's Lies [12Kb/s]

14:50 <sethy> :)

14:50 <sethy> <3

14:51 <MTughan> 256kbps per song here. :D

14:51 <sethy> not much speed in your lies

14:52 <sethy> at 12

14:53 <MTughan> Does that work for you?

14:53 <MTughan> Oops...'

14:53 <MTughan>

14:53 <Romulus> <> (at

14:53 <sethy> verywell

14:53 <sethy> ;_;

14:54 <sethy> i has sonix musix

14:54 <sethy>

14:55 <Romulus> <> (at

14:55 <PovAddict> sethy: I dont know what to do with my 6GB of remixes...

14:56 <PovAddict> if it was 4GB I'd burn it to DVD

14:56 <PovAddict> but SIX GIGS

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14:56 <sethy> but SICHS GIGHS

14:56 <PovAddict> there's some at insane rates (320kbps) maybe I should reencode those

14:56 <sethy> take out the last 100 dongz

14:56 <PovAddict> eww

14:56 <sethy> :D

14:58 <sethy> but srsly

14:58 <sethy> take out the last 100 songs

14:58 <MTughan> Meh. You only have 45 hours of music (or whatever there). I have 2.9 days in all.

14:58 <sethy> i managed to burn 0001-1000 to dvd

14:59 <MTughan> In 1028 items...

14:59 <sethy> thats not all the music though....

14:59 <sethy> want me to go find out for you?

14:59 <MTughan> Sure.

15:01 * BiteAbleKat jams:-Silversun Pickups - Lazy Eye.mp3

15:01 * MTughan is listening to Made to Love by Tobymac from Portable Sounds

15:01 <sethy> itsa going up

15:02 <BiteAbleKat> my new fav band, for this minute

15:02 <MTughan> Silversun Pickups?

15:02 <sethy> just passed 2000

15:02 <BiteAbleKat> yes

15:03 <sethy> 3000

15:03 * BiteAbleKat jams:-The_Bravery_-_Time_Wont_Let_Me_Go.mp3

15:04 * MTughan is listening to Suddenly by Tobymac from Portable Sounds

15:04 <BiteAbleKat> you kids and your weird musics

15:04 <sethy> :o

15:04 <MTughan> I just bought this album yesterday, that's why I'm listening to it.

15:04 <BiteAbleKat> lol

15:04 <MTughan> Tobymac is weird? Okay...

15:04 <sethy> &math 350/24

15:04 <Romulus> sethy: Error: You need to have PySQLite installed to use this plugin.  Download it at <>

15:04 <sethy> :o

15:05 <PovAddict> &calc 350/24

15:05 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: The command "calc" is available in the Google and Math plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "calc".

15:05 <PovAddict> screw you

15:05 <MTughan> &math calc 250/24

15:05 <Romulus> MTughan: 10.4166666667

15:05 <PovAddict> that

15:05 <sethy> so i have

15:05 <sethy> 10.4 days of music

15:05 <sethy> who wants my playlist?

15:05 <MTughan> Nice... I think we have about 200 CDs downstairs.

15:05 <sethy> cool col

15:06 <MTughan> The dad of one of my friends has literally tens of thousands of records.

15:06 <PovAddict> &math calc 1459868/30000

15:06 <Romulus> PovAddict: 48.6622666667

15:06 <BiteAbleKat> ill listen to one tobymac song and see if its weird

15:08 * BiteAbleKat jams:-Grateful_Dead_-_Friend_Of_The_Devil.mp3

15:09 <sethy> i havent finished looking for my music yet

15:11 <sethy> &math calc 397/24

15:11 <Romulus> sethy: 16.5416666667

15:11 <sethy> :D

15:14 <sethy> eye taek pix

15:16 <sethy>

15:16 <Romulus> <> (at

15:17 <PovAddict> how many songs?

15:17 <xcamel> re-hi

15:18 <sethy> 5891

15:18 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

15:18 <MTughan> How old are you?

15:18 <sethy> hold i will change that

15:18 <xcamel> guess...

15:18 <BiteAbleKat> hiya xcamel

15:19 <xcamel> Hiya BK

15:19 <MTughan> Um... 45?

15:20 <sethy> updated

15:20 <sethy> i say 49

15:20 <BiteAbleKat> crazy kids

15:20 <BiteAbleKat> lol

15:20 <sethy> LABALABA

15:20 <sethy> cashaloonie

15:21 <sethy>

15:21 <MTughan> I've got a Terry Fox loonie.

15:21 <BiteAbleKat> ugh i dont like tobymac

15:21 <BiteAbleKat> too...something, i dunno

15:21 <MTughan> How about Switchfoot?

15:21 <BiteAbleKat> ill find one and listen to one

15:21 <MTughan> Yeah, Tobymac is more a hip-hop artist.

15:22 <BiteAbleKat> yeah sounds like something my kid would be into

15:22 <MTughan> I don't like rap, but I like hip-hop.

15:22 <BiteAbleKat> i was watching a show on giant pumpkins last night and thought of you xcamel

15:23 <MTughan> lol

15:23 <BiteAbleKat> cause these people had spycams on their giant pumpkin

15:23 <BiteAbleKat> lol

15:23 <BiteAbleKat> to make sure NOTHING human or INhuman got to their PRECIOUS pumpkin

15:23 <MTughan> Hey, we saw an orange VW van yesterday that had a pumpkin mouth and eyes on it. Guess what they were getting at? :P

15:23 <xcamel> lol.. you're close..

15:24 <MTughan> Who's close?

15:24 <xcamel> you

15:24 <BiteAbleKat> these giant pumpkin growers really got into it

15:24 <MTughan> 43?

15:24 <xcamel> wrong way

15:24 <MTughan> 46?

15:24 <xcamel> 48

15:24 <MTughan> sethy was closer then.

15:25 <BiteAbleKat> some rubbing them with oils, most all of them covering them in some way with makeshift shelters, and tucking them in with soft blankets

15:25 <sethy> :D

15:25 <MTughan> Apparently, freelarry isn't the oldest one here, but he's 49...

15:25 <BiteAbleKat> i know one is alot older

15:25 <MTughan> You?

15:25 <BiteAbleKat> the name escapes me

15:26 <BiteAbleKat> no, not me

15:26 <MTughan> sethy claims to be the youngest, at 16.

15:26 <sethy> i am

15:26 <sethy> I TELL YOU

15:26 <sethy> ask PovAddict

15:27 <MTughan> Yes, you're younger than PovAddict. But anyone else younger?

15:27 <sethy> no

15:28 <sethy> i think i'll stay youngest here for another year

15:29 <xcamel> old id the olded at 60 something... maybe spit was...

15:30 <xcamel> would think just once I could hit "S" and not get a "D"

15:31 <sethy> ols id the olses at 60 domething... maybe dpit wad

15:31 <sethy> ?

15:31 <MTughan> No...

15:32 <xcamel> no comment

15:32 <sethy> ;_;

15:32 <sethy> ( o.o)(-_-# )

15:32 <MTughan> "ols id the olses at 60 something... maybe spit was..." if his directions were followed.

15:32 <sethy> old is the oldest

15:32 <PovAddict> dhudh

15:32 <BiteAbleKat> everyone is coming to my place for dinner

15:33 <MTughan> s/d/s/g, not s/[ds]/[sd]g

15:33 <sethy> &drumroll

15:33 <Romulus> sethy: Error: You need to have PySQLite installed to use this plugin.  Download it at <>

15:33 <BiteAbleKat> i have to cook

15:33 <sethy> i so read that wrong

15:33 * PovAddict slaps sethy

15:33 * BiteAbleKat eyes romulus warily

15:33 <sethy> :o

15:33 <MTughan> s/[ds]/[sd]/g, my bad.

15:33 <xcamel> just a bad typist

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15:34 <MTughan> slap sethy

15:34 * SlapperBot mutilates sethy with a public troll

15:34 <sethy> arthritus getting to you?

15:34 <sethy> >:o

15:34 *** SlapperBot has left #boinc

15:34 * sethy Drops a old apple macintosh on MTughan

15:34 <MTughan> :D

15:35 * sethy Brutaly mames MTughan

15:35 * PovAddict watches two instances of WinOSi eat his RAM

15:35 <MTughan> Hey, old Apple's could perform common tasks as fast as an AMD dual-core running XP.

15:35 * sethy Slaps MTughan with a cordless mouse

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15:35 <sethy> fgt

15:35 <MTughan> slap sethy for getting mad at me

15:35 * SlapperBot beats up sethy with an eerie BSD Devil for getting mad at MTughan

15:35 <sethy> :o

15:35 *** SlapperBot has left #boinc

15:35 <PovAddict> and one Apple-vs-AMD-with-XP article could create a big flamewar in

15:36 <sethy> lets not do that

15:36 <sethy> also xp runs faster than vista

15:36 <MTughan> Linux can run faster than both.

15:36 <sethy> i can run faster than all the above

15:37 <MTughan> With what?

15:37 <sethy> my legs

15:37 <MTughan> Your legs can do in excess of 4 billion mathematical computations a second?

15:37 <sethy> they can now

15:37 <MTughan> lol

15:38 <MTughan> Actually... Now it's 24 billion, not 4.

15:38 <sethy> i think you lie

15:38 <MTughan> Mac Pro with dual quad-core 3.0GHz Xeons.

15:38 <PovAddict> ask zombie67

15:38 <sethy> i was thinking more along the lines of dna based computing

15:38 <PovAddict> he has 8-way macs

15:39 <MTughan>

15:39 <Romulus> Title: Apple Canada - Mac Pro - Technical Specifications (at

15:39 <PovAddict> isn't it amazing how I have 2GB of RAM (compared to 512MB on my other computer) and I still manage to trash it?

15:39 <sethy> yes

15:39 <MTughan> That can take up to 16GB...

15:39 <sethy> you have alot of sh@# PovAddict

15:40 <PovAddict> your mom

15:40 <PovAddict> has a lot of sh@#

15:40 <MTughan> We've got all this computing power, and we can still run a decent OS on 400MHz machines with 64MB RAM...

15:40 <MTughan> Okay guys, cool it.

15:40 * sethy charges PovAddict's laserz

15:40 <PovAddict> imma charging my layzurz

15:40 <MTughan> You want the Slapper back?

15:40 * sethy fires PovAddict layzurz at MTughan

15:40 <PovAddict> (shoop da whoop)

15:41 <MTughan> Okay, that's it...

15:41 <sethy> :D

15:41 <PovAddict> &google shoop da whoop

15:41 <Romulus> PovAddict: Search took 0.08 seconds: SHOOP DA WHOOP: <>; YouTube - Shoop da Whoop: <>; YouTube - THE LAZER COLLECTION: <>; Urban Dictionary: shoop da whoop: <>; Yahoo! Answers - What is shoop da whoop ?: (2 more messages)

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15:41 <MTughan> slap sethy for shooting me

15:41 * SlapperBot tortures sethy with a dangerous agent for shooting MTughan

15:41 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o wdsmia

15:41 <MTughan> slap sethy for shooting me

15:41 * SlapperBot slaps sethy with a mindless daemon for shooting MTughan

15:41 <MTughan> slap sethy for shooting me

15:41 * SlapperBot hits sethy with a well known endurance for shooting MTughan

15:41 *** SlapperBot has left #boinc

15:41 <sethy> all phear teh doug

15:41 * sethy cowers

15:42 * xcamel fires up a size 13 a$$kickin boot...

15:42 <MTughan> Got a target for you... I give you permission to do something to the Slapper.

15:43 *** SlapperBot has joined #boinc

15:43 * PovAddict gets the hell out of here

15:43 <xcamel> wdsmia already has his on...

15:43 * sethy walks away in boredom

15:43 *** SlapperBot was kicked by wdsmia (...and there was much rejoicing...)

15:43 *** wdsmia sets mode: +b *!*n=PircBot@*

15:43 <MTughan> Or I can make it quit, if you want that more.

15:43 <MTughan> Fine.

15:43 <MTughan> Okay, he'll stay away for the rest of today, at least.

15:44 <sethy> forever plox

15:44 <MTughan> Nice kick message wdsmia, BTW.

15:44 <xcamel> wow - a real pirchbot

15:44 <xcamel> thought they were extinct

15:44 <MTughan> Yeah, I used PircBot for the Slapper.

15:44 <MTughan> Easier than implementing all the IRC commands myself.

15:44 <sethy> i think you lie

15:45 <MTughan> How would I lie about that?

15:45 <sethy> xcamel, is he lieing?

15:45 <xcamel> nope..

15:45 <sethy> oh ok

15:45 <MTughan> PovAddict can vouch for that too.

15:45 <PovAddict> sethy: yea he's not even canadian... it's all lies

15:45 <xcamel> PircH is older than you are

15:45 <MTughan> PovAddict...

15:45 <PovAddict> xcamel: maybe you're thinking about something else

15:45 <sethy> MTughan IS LIES

15:46 <PovAddict> xcamel: no h in this PircBot; it's a framework for Java IRC bots

15:46 <MTughan> Fine. Join ##konfabulator.

15:46 <sethy> nou

15:47 <sethy> :D

15:47 <sethy> NICE TRY

15:47 <MTughan> No Slapper.

15:47 <xcamel> uh-oh -- hard freeze tonight

15:48 <sethy> lucky for some

15:48 <sethy> i have rush hour train for college

15:48 <MTughan> xcamel: Where?

15:48 <sethy> all week

15:48 <sethy> again

15:49 <xcamel> here..

15:49 <MTughan> I meant in the world.

15:49 <xcamel> 25-29 possible here tonight

15:49 <sethy> F / C?

15:50 <MTughan> Sounds like F.

15:50 <PovAddict> &echo [math convert 25 F to C] - [math convert 29 F to C]

15:50 <Romulus> -3.88888888889 - -1.66666666667

15:50 <sethy> &math convert 29 F to C

15:50 <Romulus> sethy: -1.66666666667

15:50 <sethy> >:o

15:50 <PovAddict> that's cold /o\

15:51 <xcamel> 272 miles east of you...

15:51 <MTughan> Hehe... I was still in shorts and a t-shirt at 7C this morning. :D

15:51 <PovAddict> O_o

15:51 <PovAddict> crazy

15:51 <Romulus> as all i'm gonna fire up here - although small ones

15:51 <sethy> but your born in that environment so your use to it

15:51 <MTughan> lol

15:52 <PovAddict> I'm in shorts and a t-shirt with 24°C thanks to the air conditioner

15:52 <PovAddict> it was 27C inside before turning it on

15:52 <MTughan> My physics teacher's dad is from northern Ontario, so he'll be in the same clothes in 2-5C weather. I can't quite stand that.

15:52 <sethy> your in shorts and tshirt next to your computer

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15:52 <MTughan> 'lo BB

15:52 <sethy> PovAddict, watch where you put your feet :)

15:52 <sethy> HALOHA la BadBarbarian

15:52 <PovAddict> sethy: why

15:52 <BadBarbarian> what is it getting deep in here lol

15:52 <sethy> you could get electrocuted

15:53 <PovAddict> yay?

15:53 <efc> nice outside for the run

15:53 <sethy> not yeay

15:53 <sethy> hey efc

15:53 <MTughan> You missed a very interesting conversation, efc.

15:53 <PovAddict> suure

15:53 <sethy> i think you lie

15:53 <PovAddict> you're all crazy

15:53 <sethy> i think you lie

15:53 <MTughan> lol

15:54 <MTughan> You know what... He keeps saying he thinks we lie. Well, I think HE lies!

15:54 <sethy> u

15:54 <MTughan> Lier.

15:54 <sethy> u

15:54 <MTughan> Lier.

15:54 <PovAddict> lies

15:54 <sethy> nou

15:54 <MTughan> Lier.

15:54 <sethy> nou

15:54 <MTughan> Lier.

15:54 <sethy> nou

15:54 <MTughan> Lier.

15:54 <sethy> nou

15:54 <MTughan> Lier.

15:54 <sethy> nou

15:54 <MTughan> Lier.

15:54 <PovAddict> STFU BOTH

15:54 <MTughan> Spam!

15:54 <sethy> gtfo

15:54 <MTughan> Spam!

15:54 <MTughan> Lier.

15:54 <sethy> Uncle doug

15:54 * wdsmia warms up the boot

15:54 <MTughan> Lier.

15:54 <PovAddict> wdsmia is still with sheriff status

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15:56 <sethy> wtf is ^H

15:56 <MTughan> Lier.

15:56 <sethy> wdsmia

15:56 <MTughan> Lier.

15:56 <efc> On the positive front, the log of this should compress extremely well with gzip.

15:56 <MTughan> You started it all by calling me a lier.

15:56 <MTughan> lol efc

15:56 <sethy> but i didnt say it that many times

15:56 <sethy> fgt

15:56 <MTughan> So?

15:56 <sethy> so?

15:56 <sethy> so i think you lie

15:56 <MTughan> Lier.

15:57 <sethy> i find it funneh that i'm stating an opinion of thought and your trying to enforce a fact

15:57 <MTughan> You were trying to convince other people.

15:57 <sethy> i think you lie

15:57 <MTughan> Lier.

15:58 <sethy> UNCLE DOUG!

15:58 *** sethy was kicked by wdsmia (Go go gadget army boot!)

15:58 *** sethy has joined #Boinc

15:58 *** MTughan was kicked by wdsmia (This is our subtle way of saying goodbye)

15:58 *** MTughan has joined #boinc

15:58 <MTughan> Thanks...

15:58 <sethy> your welcome

15:58 <MTughan> Not you.

15:58 <sethy> no

15:58 <MTughan> And it was sarcastic.

15:58 <sethy> i know

15:59 <sethy> RAWR

15:59 <sethy> i has to get ready for topgear

16:02 <MTughan> Cool... There is a #perl channel...

16:03 <sethy> /list

16:04 <MTughan> Oh, that's nice...

16:04 <MTughan> Hehe... ##apple!!!

16:04 <MTughan> Whoa... ##/dev/random...

16:06 * c0dewarrior slaps MTughan

16:06 <MTughan> What?

16:06 <c0dewarrior> stop randomizing my world

16:06 <c0dewarrior> and hi

16:06 <MTughan> Hello?

16:06 <BadBarbarian> rehi

16:07 * c0dewarrior tips the hat

16:07 <c0dewarrior> what's new in boinc world

16:11 <efc> We've recently not discovered extraterrestial life

16:11 <MTughan> lol

16:11 <c0dewarrior> ah, good thing that I contributed to that non-finding then!

16:11 * efc isn't optimistic

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16:18 <c0dewarrior> efc: why so unoptimistic! Pretty soon some punk kid from alpha centauri will manage to steal his folks inter-galactic hyper-drive enabled speedster to take his new girlfriend to see the beautiful sunset on earth

16:24 <efc> I just don't think anybody is going to put a narrow beamwidth, multi gigawatt transmitter aimed right at us, at the right frequency, and leave it on for years

16:24 <efc> Think of the electric bill

16:24 <MTughan> lol

16:25 <c0dewarrior> efc: true, let's hope they crash into a nearby planet with the nuclear drive... should send out enough energy to make us notice :-p

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16:27 <efc> Yeah, if we start picking up neutrinos from a non-super bright source, that would be conspicuous

16:27 <c0dewarrior> grin

16:29 <efc> No way you hide that from the insurance company

16:33 <c0dewarrior> grin, can't hide anything from them (except intelligence)

16:35 <efc> As I recall, when the first gamma rays were detected from space, one of the considered sources was interstellar warfare

16:35 <MTughan> O_O

16:36 <efc> I'm glad that didn't turn out to be true.. (its not, we hope)

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17:00 <sethy> a bugatti veyron is NOT faster than a eurofighter typhoon

17:01 <sethy> kthx

17:01 <MTughan> ...

17:03 <sethy> what?

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17:09 <sethy> its true

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17:42 <MTughan> Okay, that's just odd... Colloquy crashes when sending bunzips...

17:42 <sethy> lawl bunzips

17:51 <xcamel> bunnyzippers?

17:51 <MTughan> Haha.

17:53 <sethy> sleep taimz

17:53 <sethy> bai xcamel and MTughan <3

17:53 <MTughan> Bye.

17:53 <sethy> also, before i go, #boinc needs more love

17:54 <MTughan> Just go, lier. :P

17:54 <sethy> kthx <3

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17:55 * MTughan starts grinning like an idiot

17:55 <MTughan> Xcode 3 is available.

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18:14 <xcamel> &weather 12074

18:14 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 42.4F / 5.8C | Humidity: 44% | Pressure: 30.34in / 1027.3hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Widespread frost after midnight. Much colder with lows in the upper 20s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph... decreasing to around 5 mph after midnight.; Monday - Widespread frost in the morning. Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower (1 more message)

18:14 <xcamel> &more

18:14 <Romulus> xcamel: 50s. West winds around 5 mph...becoming southwest in the afternoon.; Monday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 30s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Freeze Warning for Saratoga County in effect until 9:00 AM EDT on October 29, 2007;

18:15 <xcamel> burrrrr...

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18:15 <xcamel> 'lo BB

18:17 <BadBarbarian> hey xcamel how things

18:17 <MTughan> g2g

18:17 <xcamel> getting chilly...

18:17 <BadBarbarian> 60 was the  high here today

18:17 <xcamel> down into the 20's tonight

18:18 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86046

18:18 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 72.3F / 22.4C | Humidity: 19% | Pressure: 23.95in / 810.9hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 5.8mph / 9.3km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs 66 to 72. Light winds.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows 27 to 35. Light winds.; Monday - Partly cloudy in the morning then clearing. Highs 65 to 71. Light winds becoming south around 15 mph in the afternoon.;

18:19 <BadBarbarian> we will be about 20 out where i live

18:20 <BadBarbarian> always 7 to 10degrees colder than the forcast

18:20 <BadBarbarian> whats your elevation there xcamel

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18:24 <xcamel> just about 1000'

18:24 <BadBarbarian> wow thats cold for that low an elevation

18:25 <BadBarbarian> 7320 here

18:25 <Romulus> SE corner - on that last one was home, when we do

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18:50 <xcamel> poof

19:09 <wdsmia> &weather 50265

19:09 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 54F / 12C | Humidity: 40% | Pressure: 30.49in / 1032hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Low in the upper 30s. South wind 5 to 10 mph.; Monday - Sunny. High in the mid 60s. Southwest wind 5 to 15 mph.; Monday Night - Mostly clear. Low in the mid 40s. South wind 10 to 15 mph.;

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19:13 <xcamel> already down to 41 here

19:14 <wdsmia> wont be long till were shoveling snow :(

19:15 <xcamel> don't push it..

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19:47 <xcamel> 'lo lkjasa

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20:12 <lkjasa> 'lo

20:16 <xcamel> hmmm... 38 and dropping fast...

20:18 <xcamel> Israel?

20:18 <lkjasa> 38 what?

20:18 <lkjasa> yeah

20:18 <xcamel> degrees F (outside)

20:18 <xcamel> 2 C

20:19 <xcamel> getting chilly

20:19 <lkjasa> heh

20:19 <lkjasa> too hot here

20:19 <xcamel> I'll take it...

20:20 <xcamel> headed to Baja Mexico on the 5th for a couple weeks - to prepare for winter...

20:21 <xcamel> what's the temp there (knowing it's the middle of the night)

20:22 <xcamel> &weather LLHB

20:22 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

20:22 <lkjasa> LOL

20:22 <lkjasa> ~ 20 C

20:22 <lkjasa> maybe more i don't know

20:22 <xcamel> &weather lles

20:22 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 78°F / 26°C | Humidity: 71% | Pressure: 29.73in / 1007hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 2mph / 4km/h | Updated: 3:00 AM IDT; Clear. High:78 F. / 26 C.; Clear. Low:66 F. / 19 C.; Clear. High:78 F. / 26 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:66 F. / 19 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:80 F. / 27 C.; Clear. Low:66 F. / 19 C.;

20:22 <xcamel> &weather llxx

20:23 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

20:23 <xcamel> Eyn-Shemer airport

20:23 <lkjasa> lles?

20:23 <xcamel> probably not that close

20:24 <xcamel> &weather llbg

20:24 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 66°F / 19°C | Humidity: 78% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h | Updated: 1:50 AM IST; Scattered Clouds. High:80 F. / 27 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:62 F. / 17 C.; Partly Cloudy. High:82 F. / 28 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:64 F. / 18 C.; Partly Cloudy. High:84 F. / 29 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:64 F. / (1 more message)

20:24 <lkjasa> bg is ben gurion i suppose

20:24 <lkjasa> which is not far

20:24 <xcamel> that's BEN GURION

20:24 <xcamel> (llbg)

20:25 <lkjasa> yeah. humidity is killing me

20:25 <xcamel> wind off the coast...

20:25 <lkjasa> indeed

20:26 <xcamel> 2:30 AM there?

20:26 <lkjasa> yeah

20:26 <xcamel> sheesh...

20:26 <xcamel> real night owl..

20:26 <lkjasa> heh

20:27 <xcamel> need to crawl off to the shower shortly...

20:27 <xcamel> 8:27 PM here

20:27 <lkjasa> yeah I can see :)

20:27 <xcamel> (20:27)

20:28 <xcamel> upstate NY, USA

20:29 <lkjasa> what are you crunching there? ;)

20:31 <xcamel> abc, qmc, einsterin, lhc, cosmology

20:31 <xcamel> I have to get going..

20:31 <xcamel> laters..

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20:31 <lkjasa> bye

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22:24 <MTughan> PovAddict: I see you have a new president today. A woman. First one, I think I heard.

22:27 <PovAddict> the wife of the current president


22:27 <MTughan> Yeah, I saw it on TV.

22:30 <zombie67> I had something interesting happen today

22:30 * PovAddict has a dirty thought immediately after reading that line

22:30 <MTughan> lol

22:31 <MTughan> Oh, GIMP 2.4 was released a little while ago.

22:31 <zombie67> across all my machines, the manager had the popup, something like "not connected to the client, would you like to try to reconnect?"

22:31 <zombie67> I have had that happen every so often

22:31 <PovAddict> did the reconnect button work?

22:31 <PovAddict> might have been a client CRASH

22:31 <zombie67> but this was across all my machines, all at about the same time

22:31 <PovAddict> o_O

22:31 <zombie67> yes, the reconnect worked

22:32 <zombie67> the messages tab didn't show anything unusual

22:32 <PovAddict> did it have all the old messages?

22:32 <zombie67> BOINC was still crunching all along

22:32 <zombie67> yep

22:32 <PovAddict> like, before the disconnect

22:32 <PovAddict> weird

22:32 <PovAddict> were all boxes started at the same time?

22:32 <zombie67> yes

22:32 <zombie67> had a power outage earlier that day

22:33 <PovAddict> "This connection will auto-destroy in X hours"

22:33 <zombie67> so they all booted at about the same time

22:33 <PovAddict> all had the same timeout

22:33 <PovAddict> ...yeaa

22:33 <zombie67> only two new projects lately

22:33 <zombie67> LHC and NNSIMU

22:33 <PovAddict> blame the latter

22:33 <PovAddict> I told you

22:34 <zombie67> heh

22:34 <zombie67> my boinc client keeps contacting the LHS server too frequently, so not getting work

22:36 <MTughan> Ouch... BSOD look alike from Leopard.

22:36 <Romulus> <> (at

22:37 <zombie67> I am waiting for 10.5.1....

22:38 <MTughan> Probably the same for me.

22:38 <zombie67> I waited a while when Tiger came out, and saved myself a bunch of frustration

22:39 <PovAddict> omg

22:39 <MTughan> Mine came preinstalled with Tiger. Sept 06 was my first Mac, although I had used a few Macs in Grade 9, so three years ago.

22:39 <PovAddict> zombie67: you'll like this

22:39 <PovAddict>

22:39 <Romulus> <> (at

22:39 <PovAddict> apple forums are web-based but *have proper threading*

22:41 <zombie67> wow.  long thread.

22:41 <MTughan> 2h to wait for a computer to boot up? That's insane...

22:41 <PovAddict> hell yeah

22:42 <zombie67> a buddy of mine did the upgrade this morning.  No problems of any kind so far

22:42 <PovAddict> he didn't have unsanity software

22:42 <MTughan> CNET article says that it could been APE... Yeah, that.

22:43 <MTughan> Okay, I'm not reading that whole thing. Just looked at the scrollbar now.

22:44 <PovAddict> wow no paging?

22:44 <MTughan> In what?

22:44 <PovAddict> on the thread

22:44 <PovAddict> all posts on a single page?

22:45 <MTughan> Yeah.

22:46 <zombie67> unsanity SW is the problem?

22:46 <MTughan> For most.

22:46 <zombie67> I don't have any installed, that I know of

22:47 <MTughan> Not all cases use it though. Although Archive and Install seems to work with all problems.

22:47 <zombie67> yeah, I'm in no rush to get leopard....

22:48 <MTughan> I was even told on ##mac to wait until the next release.

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