IRC logs of #boinc for Tuesday, 2007-11-06

00:18 <MTughan> And off to bed...

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01:46 <zombie_67> povaddict:  you there?

01:47 <zombie_67>

01:47 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - "Mac or PC" Rap Music Video - Mac vs PC (at

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04:19 <CoderForLife> ouch

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04:38 <CoderForLife> brb   breakfast

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05:01 <CoderForLife> bbiab

05:14 <quail> evening all, how are we all?

05:21 <CoderForLife> back

05:21 <CoderForLife> "core dump complete"

05:22 * quail watching digital TV on his desktop pc

05:23 * CoderForLife reviewing and modifying the pseudo-code for his new workflow engine

05:27 <quail> kewl

05:27 <quail> how are you Mr Don?

05:36 <CoderForLife> hi, fine - just tryng to figure out this shipping notice from Dell

05:38 <quail> oh

05:38 <CoderForLife> oh?

05:38 <quail> CoderForLife: how good are you at your c++ ?

05:39 <quail> oh about the invoice from dell

05:39 <CoderForLife> I am merely fait at c++ - my primary language is/was C.

05:40 <CoderForLife> fair*

05:40 <CoderForLife> about time for me to get ready for w@#%

05:40 <CoderForLife> needed to get some understanding as to when the new laptop would show up

05:41 <quail> was going to ask you when you have spare that you might beable to look at some code

05:41 <CoderForLife> can't figure out what Dell is telling me

05:41 <CoderForLife> I'll be back home about 11 hours from now

05:41 <quail> k

05:43 * CoderForLife , with a wave of his cape, turns into an IT executive

05:43 <CoderForLife> off to w@#%

05:43 <quail> ttyl bye

06:29 <MTughan> quail: If you need some help, I can look. I'm a bit of an amateur when it comes to C++, but I'm fairly quickly learning C and wanting to learn more C++.

06:30 <MTughan> I have to go in a few minutes, but I can contact you in about 7 hours or so, as I have a spare at my school then.

06:34 <MTughan> Argh... And I have to go.

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07:40 <sethiroth66> HAI GAIS

07:40 <Romulus> yep...they say they will be pretty nice image you have to pay for power goes out, and beating on the ground in the US

07:41 <sethiroth66> jay isnt here rommy

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09:20 <quail> evening all, how are we all?

09:20 <BadBarbarian> morning quail

09:21 <quail> hey BadBarbarian, whats happening?

09:21 <BadBarbarian> got a new cruncher ordered

09:23 <BadBarbarian>

09:23 <Romulus> <> (at

09:23 <quail> nice, I got my laptop back from the repairers last friday after 6 weeks at the repairer for a new keyboard and mobo

09:23 <BadBarbarian> thats the system plus i have 2 more gigs of ram for ir

09:24 <quail> and when I got it back I still had keyboard problems, and found a bios downgrade helped fix the keyboad problem

09:24 <BadBarbarian> had to retire my laptop it was just getting way too hot

09:24 <BadBarbarian> what brand of lappy

09:26 <quail> acer aspire 5601AWLMi

09:27 <BadBarbarian> ahh

09:27 <BadBarbarian> my emachine had a similar problem

09:28 <BadBarbarian> but it was some dust in the keyboard connector

09:30 <quail> the repairer put a new keyboard in and mobo, cause the charging circuit on the mobo shagged itself

09:31 <quail> but after 6 weeks I am glad to have it back

09:31 <BadBarbarian> the ribbon conecror for my lappy is pretty strait forard

09:31 <Romulus> since a newbie may want to try and follow the back :)

09:31 <BadBarbarian> did you look at the link i would love your oppinion

09:32 <quail> yeah it looks good

09:32 <BadBarbarian> going to dump vista and run xp x64

09:32 <BadBarbarian> great price

09:33 <quail> kewl, why not put linux on it ;-P

09:33 <quail> &currency convert 789.99 USD AUD

09:33 <Romulus> quail: 789.99 usd = 852.64 aud

09:33 <BadBarbarian> i wish i was that good with linux i am not

09:34 <quail> start off with ubuntu

09:35 <BadBarbarian> i will do a ghost backup than try if i fail i can restore the x64

09:37 <BadBarbarian> the 64bit widows crunchers are getting very very close to the same numbers the linux cruncher are

09:37 <quail> yep

09:37 <quail> yep

09:38 <BadBarbarian> i have been using windows for 20 years lol

09:38 <quail> poor you ;-P

09:38 <BadBarbarian> you know the old saying old dog lol

09:39 <quail> hehe yeah

09:39 <BadBarbarian> its not bad but i will never you vista ever so i might have too learn

09:40 <BadBarbarian> use

09:40 <quail> I am so interested in vista that I have never used it and not seen it

09:41 <BadBarbarian> my whole network is wireless i have always had problems getting linux to work with it

09:41 <quail> ubuntu makes that easier

09:42 <quail> I am wireless atm

09:42 <quail> with laptop

09:42 <BadBarbarian> if i sound a little off i had oral surgery yesterday pain pills are kiking it finaly

09:43 <quail> oh :-(

09:43 <quail> hope you get better soon

09:43 <BadBarbarian> my whole face it black blue green & purple

09:44 <BadBarbarian> oxycodone is helping some lol

09:45 <BadBarbarian> if i run abc with xp x64 what rac do you think i can get

09:46 <quail> not sure

09:47 <sethiroth66> depends on your CPU Power

09:47 <BadBarbarian> i am hoping for 4000 or beter

09:47 <BadBarbarian> quad 2.4 gig

09:47 <sethiroth66> so like 9.6GHz total

09:48 <BadBarbarian> yes

09:48 <BadBarbarian> with 4 gigs memory

09:48 <sethiroth66> i'm guessing Intel AMD?

09:49 <BadBarbarian> as to vista i have seen just enough to hate it lol

09:49 <BadBarbarian> intel

09:49 <sethiroth66> i meant intel sorry

09:49 <sethiroth66> vista is a sickly word

09:49 <quail> sethiroth66: it a q6600 cpu

09:49 <sethiroth66> Intel(R) Core(tm)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz

09:49 <BadBarbarian> theres a link above

09:50 <BadBarbarian> yes

09:50 <sethiroth66> that CPU comes 6th ranking on ABC@Home

09:50 <Romulus> <> (at

09:52 <sethiroth66> and here is someone with that cpu -

09:52 <Romulus> <> (at

09:53 <sethiroth66> :)

09:53 <BadBarbarian> thanks

09:54 <sethiroth66> no problem

09:54 <BadBarbarian> i am going to have 4 gigs memory

09:54 <BadBarbarian> matbe i will do better

09:54 <sethiroth66> maybe

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10:45 <sethiroth66> we have a p2p

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16:28 <wdsmia> &weather 50265

16:28 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 41F / 5C | Humidity: 43% | Pressure: 30.40in / 1029hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 16mph / 26km/h ; Today - Sunny. High in the lower 40s. Northwest wind around 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Low in the lower 20s. West wind 5 to 10 mph.; Wednesday - Partly sunny. High in the upper 40s. South wind 5 to 15 mph increasing to 15 (1 more message)

16:29 <wdsmia> &more

16:29 <Romulus> wdsmia: to 20 mph in the afternoon.;

16:29 <sethiroth66> hey :)

16:30 <wdsmia> *lo seth

16:31 <sethiroth66> looking forward to the weather ? :D

16:31 <wdsmia> just hiding from work

16:32 <sethiroth66> :o

16:32 <sethiroth66> you used teh w word

16:32 <PovAddict> omg

16:32 <PovAddict> kick yourself

16:32 <PovAddict> or wait for freelarry to come with the soap

16:32 <wdsmia> lol

16:33 <PovAddict> fear freelarry's soap

16:33 <PovAddict> sethiroth66: I gave you link on msn

16:34 <sethiroth66> i know

16:34 <wdsmia> brb

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16:36 <sethiroth66> omfg games!!!

16:36 <MTughan> Wha?

16:36 <sethiroth66> OMFG ATARI

16:36 <sethiroth66> I'M IN LOVE

16:36 <PovAddict> MTughan:

16:36 <Romulus> <$:> (at

16:36 <sethiroth66> 2600!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

16:36 <MTughan> I can't read that...

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16:36 <PovAddict> there's pictures

16:36 <MTughan> Nice game collection...

16:37 <PovAddict> scroll

16:37 <PovAddict> 1200 ganes and 49 consoles

16:37 <PovAddict> games*

16:37 <MTughan> Okay, that seems excessive.

16:37 <sethiroth66> its literally like

16:37 <sethiroth66> walking back in time

16:40 <sethiroth66> PovAddict: i got teh same e-mail actually....

16:41 <MTughan> Hehe... I have a version of the Atari 2600.

16:41 <PovAddict> unfortunately we throw trash here -_-

16:41 <MTughan> It's called the Atari 2600 Flashback. Newly made, but it looks like the old thing. And comes with quite a few games.

16:42 <PovAddict>

16:42 <Romulus> <$K> (at

16:42 <MTughan> Hey, Game Boy... Those were popular back when I was about 7-8.

16:43 <MTughan> Oh, I think I found the oldest CD at school. It's an old game from 1994.

16:44 <Romulus> At the left coast, may you be able to pull the rope to compress the circumference of the state in the Pacific Northwest

16:44 <MTughan> lol Rommie

16:46 <PovAddict> my cousin has a sega...

16:46 <MTughan> Nice.

16:46 <sethiroth66> i have 3 amiga's upstairs

16:46 <MTughan> I might have to show my dad those pictures later today.

16:47 <PovAddict> &title

16:47 <Romulus> PovAddict: Technology News: Computing: Japan Saying Sayonara to PCs?

16:47 <sethiroth66> might?

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16:54 <MTughan> sethy here?

16:54 <MTughan> Oh, hello mweltin.

16:54 <mweltin> MTughan: nice to see you.

16:55 <mweltin> Just dropped in, going to make a ferw validator changes

16:55 <mweltin> so I figured I'd better be here when the questions start.

16:55 <PovAddict> or on boinc_projects

16:55 <mweltin> how are you MTughan ?

16:56 <MTughan> Pretty good.

16:56 <MTughan> One reason I'm staying away from Leopard for now.

16:56 <Romulus> <$f> (at

16:57 <zombie67> MT:  which irc client do you use?

16:57 <MTughan> Colloauy.

16:57 <MTughan> Colloquy*

17:00 <sethiroth66> my dad's fagoing about at me cos 'the computer us using up too much cpu'

17:00 <MTughan> lol

17:00 <sethiroth66> just because he wants to look at something on ebay

17:00 <MTughan> What would you think about an Apple Tablet PC?,39029450,49293967,00.htm

17:00 <Romulus> <$m> (at

17:00 <sethiroth66> EWW APPLE

17:00 <sethiroth66> GTFO

17:00 <MTughan> Macs can do a lot of BOINC work. Just ask zombie67.

17:01 <sethiroth66> i wont touch one

17:01 <PovAddict> meh @ tablet PCs

17:01 <MTughan> PS3's still take the cake though.

17:01 * PovAddict touches sethiroth66 with a PowerBook

17:01 * sethiroth66 freaks out

17:01 <MTughan> Will he melt down?

17:01 <MTughan> Ah, good enough.

17:01 <BadBarbarian> lol

17:01 <sethiroth66> WHAT TEH FUCK DID YOU DO THAT FOIR?

17:01 <sethiroth66> just no need pov

17:01 <BadBarbarian> Its Getting Deep in here

17:01 <sethiroth66> just no f@$%ing need

17:02 <MTughan> Well, I still say almost anything is better than Vista.

17:02 <MTughan> Except ME.

17:02 <zombie67> PS3 can do 3k-4k/day.  So $/credit, it is the best.  However, the champ in total crunching per box is the 8-way mac at ASP, 16.5k/day

17:02 <MTughan> Nice...

17:02 * sethiroth66 smashed the mac infested thing out of pov's hand with a sledghammer

17:03 <PovAddict> holy crap I never reached 1k/day

17:03 * MTughan hands sethiroth66 an iPhone.

17:03 <sethiroth66> i reached 6k today/yesterday

17:03 * sethiroth66 avoids

17:03 <MTughan> Or would you

17:03 <sethiroth66> GTFO

17:03 <zombie67> Now all I need is work from ASP....

17:03 <MTughan> ...prefer an iPod?

17:03 <sethiroth66> NO!

17:03 <sethiroth66> JUST STAY AWAY WITH YOUR MAC S#$%

17:03 <MTughan> >:D

17:04 <BadBarbarian> lol

17:04 * PovAddict formats seth's computer and installs OS X for x86 on it

17:04 <BadBarbarian> aaahhhhhhhhhhhh

17:04 <MTughan> As Apple says, "Lost control, gain command."

17:04 * sethiroth66 throws a magnet in my computer

17:04 <MTughan> And sethiroth66 is definitely losing control.

17:04 <sethiroth66> NO

17:05 <sethiroth66> i HATE them

17:05 <sethiroth66> SIMPLE

17:05 <sethiroth66> EOF

17:05 <sethiroth66> .

17:05 <MTughan> ^D

17:05 <BadBarbarian> :)

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17:06 <MTughan> sethiroth66: I dare you to join ##mac. xD

17:06 <PovAddict> MTughan:

17:06 <Romulus> <$u> (at

17:06 <sethiroth66> no

17:06 <sethiroth66> u

17:06 <MTughan> PovAddict: Nice!

17:06 <PovAddict> tux-in-an-apple ^^

17:07 <zombie67> sethiroth66:  How did you get credits @ nanohive last week?

17:07 <sethiroth66> i got credit?

17:07 <PovAddict> OMFG NANOHIVE?

17:07 <sethiroth66> THEY HAD WORK?

17:07 <MTughan> What's nanohive?

17:07 <PovAddict> !

17:07 <zombie67> This is your machine, right?

17:07 <Romulus> <$w> (at

17:07 * PovAddict points at the noob

17:08 <MTughan> Phew. Running XP, not Vista.

17:08 <mweltin> zombie67: I'd be happy to grant you credit for those invalid results but I don't know how to do that manually.

17:08 <PovAddict> according to boincstats, nanohive hasn't granted credit recently

17:08 <sethiroth66> i'm not sure

17:08 <PovAddict> or did it

17:08 <zombie67> mweltin:  No worries.  It is only a few WUs.

17:08 <sethiroth66> zombie67: is me

17:08 <Romulus> <$y> (at

17:08 <MTughan> Well, it may not have had WUs, but it might have given credit.

17:09 <PovAddict> zombie67: he doesn't show as having had credit

17:09 <PovAddict> it's NQueens that gave credit

17:09 <MTughan> AUGH!!! TFFE!!!!

17:09 <zombie67> click on his hosts

17:09 <zombie67> then click on the quad at the top

17:09 <zombie67> look at the pie chart for last week.

17:09 <PovAddict> o.o

17:10 <sethiroth66> cool

17:10 <PovAddict> must have been a boincstats brainfart

17:10 <sethiroth66> i had nanohive

17:10 <PovAddict>

17:10 <mweltin> for those of you that use TSP you can see the lastest path at

17:10 <Romulus> <> (at

17:11 <zombie67> no way that can be the shortest path

17:11 <sethiroth66> zombie67, what's your BAM URL?

17:11 <zombie67>

17:11 <Romulus> <> (at

17:11 <mweltin> its the shortest one found so far.

17:11 <PovAddict> does anyone know his CPID by heart? :)

17:11 <mweltin> just sorting them by lat or lon comes up with a better path.

17:11 <MTughan> PovAddict: No. I'm not that much of a fanatic.

17:12 <zombie67> all those long trips out west and back again, rather than hitting all the west  cities at once...

17:12 * MTughan goes and researches nanohive.

17:12 <PovAddict> mweltin: maybe your algorithm isn't exactly efficient?

17:12 <mweltin> yes, the GA comes up with a good one as well.

17:12 <mweltin> brute force is not a good method.

17:12 <mweltin> in fact it hardly qualifies as a method.

17:12 <PovAddict> you can bruteforce efficiently too

17:13 <PovAddict>

17:13 <Romulus> <> (at

17:13 <mweltin> I have some bigger plans for that page, but the validator is a more important aspect of the project now.

17:13 <sethiroth66> i lol'd at windows vista activation code being brute forced

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17:14 <MTughan> Oh... Only Windows apps for NanoHive. Not even Linux ones.

17:14 * sethiroth66 laughs in your face

17:14 <MTughan> Screw you.

17:14 <sethiroth66> k

17:14 * PovAddict hacks nanohive

17:14 <sethiroth66> :o

17:14 <sethiroth66> STOP IT

17:14 <zombie67> mweltin:  No way the linux and windows apps can be so different in run time...something must be wrong.

17:15 <MTughan> Ever considered he might be pulling apart the application?

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17:15 <sethiroth66> :o

17:15 <sethiroth66> i closed it like.... 10 minutes ago

17:15 <sethiroth66> what lag

17:15 <mweltin> Lots of people have asked for a progress bar, which I hvae no idea how to do.  but I agree with you

17:16 <mweltin> Peop has a workunit that has been running for days, I asked him to check the workunit_state file.

17:16 <mweltin> Once Pov noticed it as blank, and I don't have any error checking in place for such a problem.

17:16 <mweltin> I should really test that.

17:17 <MTughan> Anyone know if the NanoHive code is open-source?

17:17 <PovAddict> MTughan: I think it is

17:17 <PovAddict> quite strange for that kind of project

17:17 <MTughan> Cool. Apparently, the code is cross platform.

17:17 <PovAddict>

17:17 <MTughan> So all I need to do is grab a copy and compile it.

17:17 <Romulus> <> (at

17:17 <MTughan> Provided they give me work.

17:18 <PovAddict> mweltin: progress is easy

17:18 <PovAddict> mweltin: call boinc_fraction_done() with the amount of work you did so far, as a floating point number from 0 to 1

17:19 <mweltin> PovAddict: sweet! it will take a little more code but that does sound easy.

17:20 <mweltin> tsp app verion 2.04 comming soon to a client near you!

17:20 <PovAddict> so inside your loop you basically call boinc_fraction_done((double) iteration / total_iterations);

17:20 <Romulus> somthing from nivida was fucking it up that one

17:21 <MTughan> Are bots subject to language kicking?

17:21 <zombie67> mweltin: post news when the new app is done, and there is work.  I wil download some more and test it.  for now, I am NNW.

17:21 <sethiroth66> i miss jovo and theborg :(

17:22 <wdsmia> lol

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17:22 <MTughan> Great... The HTML guides included with NanoHive are broken.

17:22 <MTughan> 'lo Doug

17:22 <mweltin> zombie67: NNW what does that stand for/

17:22 <PovAddict> no new work

17:22 <MTughan> Looks like North-northwest.

17:22 <sethiroth66> New New York?

17:23 <mweltin> ahh

17:23 <MTughan> You've watched too much Futurama...

17:23 <MTughan> And that's NNY, not NNW.

17:23 <mweltin> can one really watch too MUCH futurama?

17:23 <sethiroth66> new new york is also Final Fantasy Spirits Within

17:23 <MTughan> Good point.

17:23 <sethiroth66> thats where i got it from

17:23 <sethiroth66> <3 FF

17:23 <wdsmia> about time to clean up the desk and head home

17:24 <MTughan> You can never watch too much Futurama.

17:24 <wdsmia> bbiab

17:24 <sethiroth66> bai _o/

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17:24 * PovAddict finished his Sprite :(

17:25 * sethiroth66 go's gets a yogurt

17:25 <PovAddict> hehehe

17:25 <zombie67> futurama is my favorite show, even if it is in reruns.  I hear it is coming back.

17:25 <PovAddict> software statuses:

17:25 <PovAddict> Stable

17:25 <PovAddict> Mature

17:25 <PovAddict> Deprecated

17:25 <PovAddict> then the older versions have:

17:25 <BadBarbarian> *bb hands Pov a monster

17:25 <PovAddict> Ancient, Fossilized, Legendary, Mythical

17:26 <BadBarbarian> energy drink that is

17:26 <MTughan> lol

17:26 <MTughan> Caffeine?

17:26 <BadBarbarian> woho

17:26 <sethiroth66> for some reason i though bb said *bb hands Pov a screwdriver

17:26 <BadBarbarian> lol

17:26 <MTughan> Anyone seen Over the Hedge?

17:26 <mweltin> yes

17:26 <mweltin> over the hedge

17:26 <sethiroth66> also bbiab in reverse would look like bai bb

17:26 <MTughan> Remember Hammy on caffeine?

17:26 <PovAddict>

17:26 <Romulus> <> (at

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17:28 <zombie67> gotta run

17:28 <sethiroth66> &run zombie67

17:28 <Romulus> sethiroth66: Error: You need to have PySQLite installed to use this plugin.  Download it at <>

17:28 <sethiroth66> :(

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17:29 <sethiroth66> would PovAddict like me to bring back renderfarm?

17:29 <mweltin> LOL

17:29 <PovAddict> I already have a server for it if I wanted to

17:29 <PovAddict> rename imp to renderfarm and merge the old db

17:29 <PovAddict> but I cba

17:30 <sethiroth66> fine, me and MTughan will make our own

17:31 <sethiroth66> yes?

17:31 <MTughan> Our own what?

17:31 <sethiroth66> boinc project

17:31 <MTughan> Um... No thanks.

17:31 <MTughan> bbiab

17:32 * PovAddict laughs on sethiroth66's face

17:32 <sethiroth66> ok i'll just continue the game then

17:32 <sethiroth66> pov want a new box?

17:33 <PovAddict> seth want my parents to keel me?

17:33 <sethiroth66> no, the oposite actually

17:33 <PovAddict> new box = moar electricity

17:33 <sethiroth66> dont make me call you

17:35 <PovAddict> and our smart (not) gov. will increase electrical prices instead of investing in getting more electricity

17:35 <sethiroth66> we pay by how much we use up

17:35 <PovAddict> yeah same here

17:35 <PovAddict> they will increase price per kw/h

17:35 <sethiroth66> they wont here

17:35 <sethiroth66> it will just stay the same

17:36 <PovAddict> what are you implying ¬¬

17:36 <sethiroth66> just be charged for more kw used

17:36 <sethiroth66> i'm implying

17:36 <sethiroth66> me

17:36 <sethiroth66> and british ness

17:36 <sethiroth66> also, internet speed

17:36 <MTughan> You're in the UK?

17:36 <sethiroth66> yes

17:36 <sethiroth66> your in canada

17:36 <PovAddict> I already told you I won't move to UK

17:36 <MTughan> Good... Get an iPhone this Friday!

17:37 <sethiroth66> DUDE

17:37 <sethiroth66> NO

17:37 <MTughan> >:D

17:37 <PovAddict> heh

17:37 <PovAddict> some friends of my dad have iphones

17:37 <sethiroth66> i know someone who's had one for a month now

17:38 <sethiroth66> because iphone will only work on o2

17:38 <sethiroth66> and he works at o2

17:38 <PovAddict> there's a guy that charges for the unlocking service

17:38 <sethiroth66> brb

17:38 <PovAddict> "send me your iphone and x bucks and I unlock it"

17:39 <sethiroth66> he lies

17:39 <MTughan> I'm gonna have to restart later on tonight. Consequence of Apple integrating QuickTime so tightly into OS X.

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17:39 <PovAddict> heh

17:39 <sethiroth66> APPLE SUCKS

17:39 <PovAddict> then they complain about Microsoft doing the same with IE

17:39 <MTughan> zombie67: Did you just install QT?

17:39 <mweltin> So i'm reading the wiki/ValidationSimple page, but I'm missing a few things.

17:39 <PovAddict> lol

17:39 <sethiroth66> MICROSOFT SUCKS

17:39 <zombie67> didn't we already have this conversation?

17:39 <sethiroth66> yes

17:39 <MTughan> lol

17:39 <zombie67> QT?

17:40 <mweltin> when is the validator called?

17:40 <MTughan> QuickTime.

17:40 <PovAddict> mweltin: there is no such thing as "simple" in boinc server-side

17:40 <zombie67> All macs come with QT

17:40 <PovAddict> mweltin: there is no such thing as "simple" in boinc server-side

17:40 <PovAddict> damn

17:40 <PovAddict> zombie67: update

17:40 <MTughan> zombie67: QT 7.5 came out.

17:40 <zombie67> not yet, why?

17:40 <sethiroth66> All macs come with too much stuff

17:40 <mweltin> I'm getting that feeling.

17:40 <sethiroth66> good

17:40 <zombie67> yeah, I hate all that free stuff

17:40 <MTughan> I was thinking that's why you left.

17:40 <MTughan> lol

17:41 <sethiroth66> my dad's been in my room again :@

17:41 <PovAddict> mweltin: the validator starts as a daemon, just like the rest (assimilator, transitioner, etc) so to be picky I'd say it's "called" (started) by ./bin/start :)

17:41 <sethiroth66> i so need to get a lock

17:41 <PovAddict> mweltin: but that's probably not what you wanted to know

17:41 <MTughan> sethiroth66: New Macs come with optical audio.

17:41 <sethiroth66> MTughan I DONT CARE

17:41 <sethiroth66> GET AWAY

17:41 <zombie67> iPhoto, iDVD, iMovie, iWeb Garage Band...yeah, they should get rid of all that crap

17:42 <sethiroth66> can we not talk about religeon in here please?

17:42 <sethiroth66> kthx

17:42 <mweltin> PovAddict: the assimilator gets called when there is a canonical result for example.

17:42 <MTughan> I wouldn't mind if they got rid of iWork. I like OOo.

17:42 <PovAddict> MTughan: does it have audible video too?

17:42 <MTughan> Sorry?

17:42 <zombie67> iWork is not free

17:42 <PovAddict> optical audio

17:42 <zombie67> you have to pay for that.

17:42 <MTughan> I know.

17:42 <zombie67> I use NeoOffice

17:42 <sethiroth66> STOP THE I STUFF

17:42 <sethiroth66> :'(

17:42 <zombie67> it is OO, but doesn't need X11

17:42 <mweltin> PovAddict: the compare_results funtion only takes tow results, but what do i do if my minquorum is larger than two.

17:42 <MTughan> I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I

17:43 <PovAddict> mweltin: nothing

17:43 <zombie67> sethiroth66:  you started it

17:43 <PovAddict> mweltin: it's the "simple" framework for a reason; you only compare two yourself

17:43 <sethiroth66> not my fault i dont like them

17:43 <sethiroth66> they shouldnt attack me

17:43 <mweltin> PovAddict: hahaha

17:43 <PovAddict> mweltin: if you have quorum=3, it will get called to compare a with b, b with c, and c with a

17:43 <zombie67> I am pretty sure your opinion is your own fault

17:44 <mweltin> PovAddict: so what triggers this call?  As soon as min_quorum of resutls has been returned?

17:44 <PovAddict> hmm

17:44 <PovAddict>

17:44 <Romulus> Title: Image:Ipoop.jpg - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia (at

17:44 <MTughan> zombie67: Yeah, NeoOffice is nice. What do you think about GIMP?

17:44 <PovAddict> that's a crappy image editing work

17:44 <PovAddict> (PUN ALERT)

17:44 <mweltin> have you all seen "hide and go poop" on youTube?

17:45 <MTughan> Oh...

17:45 <zombie67> never used gimp

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17:46 * wdsmia is back - A.F.K. - Away From Keyboard - 18h.21m.37s

17:47 <sethiroth66> SLEEP TAIMZ

17:47 <sethiroth66> also welcome back doug

17:48 <MTughan> sethiroth66: What OS do you use?

17:48 <sethiroth66> which hard drive?

17:48 <MTughan> The one you're on now.

17:48 <sethiroth66> got sabayon on the laptop

17:49 <wdsmia> Hmmm Ruby just layed an egg

17:49 <sethiroth66> windows xp pro on here

17:49 <PovAddict> wdsmia: wut

17:49 <wdsmia> birds do that pov lol

17:50 <sethiroth66> MTughan why?

17:50 <PovAddict> Ruby?

17:50 <MTughan> Just wondering. OS X is Unix based.

17:50 <PovAddict> 84289 files

17:50 <sethiroth66> YOU'RE unix based

17:50 <PovAddict> 34056 dirs

17:50 <PovAddict> o_o

17:51 <sethiroth66> b#@%# fight on tv

17:51 <sethiroth66> it finished

17:51 <sethiroth66> that was wa$@

17:52 <zombie67> freakin hilarious!@

17:52 <wdsmia> @pov Ruby Sue is my parrot

17:52 <MTughan> Oh... We thought Ruby as in the language. :P

17:53 <wdsmia> lol

17:53 * PovAddict looks at the impressive amount of sh!t on his harddisk

17:53 * sethiroth66 looks at hard drives

17:53 * sethiroth66 looks at PovAddict

17:53 * PovAddict uninstalls MSN Messenger

17:53 * sethiroth66 looks at PovAddict

17:54 <PovAddict> sethiroth66: I'm not having diskspace problems

17:54 <PovAddict> I have like

17:54 <PovAddict> 50% used

17:54 <sethiroth66> i never mentioned anything

17:54 <sethiroth66> i just wanted to look at you

17:54 <MTughan> I have about 10GB free on a 160GB disk.

17:54 <PovAddict> freak

17:54 <MTughan> Video is a big hog...

17:54 <PovAddict> hmm let's see what I can uninstall

17:54 <Romulus> rebooting I hate bumper cars are starting to warm up here for tonight - if i can get it.

17:54 <sethiroth66> you

17:55 <PovAddict> jdk 1.6.0_02

17:55 <PovAddict> error during install, damnit

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17:56 * sethiroth66 looks at PovAddict

17:56 * sethiroth66 looks at hard drives

17:56 <PovAddict> ...

17:56 * sethiroth66 looks at PovAddict

17:57 <sethiroth66> TRADE!!!!

17:57 * sethiroth66 hugs PovAddict

17:57 <PovAddict> .....

17:57 <MTughan> o_O

17:57 <BadBarbarian> hehe

17:57 <PovAddict> oh I just found something that's using a lot of space and I don't need

17:57 * PovAddict uninstalls M$ Office

17:57 * sethiroth66 claps

17:57 <MTughan> Yay! ^^

17:57 <PovAddict> it's using like 400MB

17:57 <BadBarbarian> star office is cool

17:57 * MTughan fires up a disk inventory program

17:58 * CoderForLife struts into the room

17:59 <PovAddict> WHAT THE

17:59 <PovAddict> I just uninstalled a game

17:59 <CoderForLife> got the wireless access point up and running

17:59 <PovAddict> now I have 400 *more* files on my disk

17:59 <MTughan> Cool.

17:59 <MTughan> Whoa...

17:59 <PovAddict> 84959 files

17:59 <CoderForLife> 54mbps WPA2 encryption

17:59 <PovAddict> 33127 dirs

17:59 <PovAddict> compare with above

17:59 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: I'm stuck on 10mbps wi-fi...

17:59 <CoderForLife> empty the trash?

18:00 * sethiroth66 still hugs PovAddict

18:00 <PovAddict> uninstall programs don't use the trash

18:00 <MTughan> Wireless-G.

18:00 * PovAddict gets rid of sethiroth66

18:00 <MTughan> sethiroth66: Now you're scaring me.

18:00 <CoderForLife> 802.11g

18:00 <PovAddict> get OFF

18:00 <sethiroth66> :o

18:00 <sethiroth66> :(

18:00 <sethiroth66> </3

18:00 * MTughan throws an iPhone towards sethiroth66

18:00 <MTughan> And an iPod.

18:00 <MTughan> And an iMac.

18:00 <MTughan> And a Mac Pro.

18:01 <MTughan> And a Macbook.

18:01 <BadBarbarian> and an ipoop

18:01 <MTughan> And a Macbook Pro.

18:01 <MTughan> And a Mac mini.

18:01 * sethiroth66 goes insane and shoves an iGrenade down your throat

18:01 <MTughan> Is that it?

18:01 * CoderForLife launches his Mac SE

18:01 <MTughan> lol

18:01 * CoderForLife follows with his 20MB external HD

18:01 <sethiroth66> uncle don

18:01 <CoderForLife> yes, nephew?

18:01 <BadBarbarian> i dig in my closet fot an apple 2 plus to throw

18:01 <MTughan> Oh...

18:01 <sethiroth66> tell Mike to stop picking on me just cos i hate macs

18:02 <MTughan> iPod nano.

18:02 <MTughan> iPod touch.

18:02 <MTughan> iPod classic

18:02 * CoderForLife hugs his nano closer

18:02 <MTughan> iPod shuffle.

18:02 <BadBarbarian> lol

18:02 <PovAddict> /ignore MTughan

18:02 <MTughan> Want colours and sizes? >:D

18:02 <sethiroth66> by all means

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18:02 <MTughan> Naw, I'll get booted for excess flood.

18:02 <BadBarbarian> hey MT i finaly order my new system

18:03 <zombie67> sethiroth66:

18:03 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - "Mac or PC" Rap Music Video - Mac vs PC (at

18:03 <sethiroth66> wdsmia: MTughan has been flooding

18:03 <MTughan> BadBarbarian: What is it?

18:03 <PovAddict> geez

18:03 <PovAddict> /part #mac-pc-flamewar

18:03 <zombie67> pretty funny

18:03 <BadBarbarian> quad gateway refurb

18:03 <PovAddict> no such channel? I thought I was on it?

18:03 <MTughan> I would normally say shun for being a WinPC, but that's a nice box.

18:03 <sethiroth66> its on quakenet

18:04 * PovAddict goes read on servlets

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18:04 <BadBarbarian>

18:04 <Romulus> <> (at

18:04 <BadBarbarian> that one

18:05 * MTughan whistles in admiration

18:05 <MTughan> Other than Vista.

18:05 <BadBarbarian> nice price too

18:05 <MTughan> Yeah...

18:05 <BadBarbarian> lol thats gone first thing

18:06 <BadBarbarian> xp x64

18:06 <MTughan> I think I paid $2500CDN three years ago for a P4 HT 2.8GHz, 1GB RAM, 120GB HD.

18:06 <MTughan> It was a nice machine at the time/

18:06 <BadBarbarian> and ordered 2 more gegs of ram for a total of 4 gig

18:06 <MTughan> Nice...

18:07 <MTughan> The only thing I like about Windows Vista is the Aero look. And even in there, it's the transparency.

18:07 <sethiroth66> ooo autism documentary

18:07 <MTughan> lol

18:07 <sethiroth66> disection

18:07 <sethiroth66> thing

18:07 <MTughan> bbiab

18:07 <sethiroth66> bai bb

18:07 <sethiroth66> lol

18:08 <BadBarbarian> lol

18:08 <sethiroth66> Dr Gunther Von Hagen

18:08 <sethiroth66> he's gonna show me some ways on how to cheat detah

18:08 <sethiroth66> death even

18:09 <sethiroth66> not autism, autopsy

18:10 <sethiroth66> i bet he has fun doing this

18:10 <sethiroth66> i know i would

18:16 <sethiroth66> make sure you dont lose 3litres of blood

18:17 <sethiroth66> 'or zu vill dye' as gunter said

18:23 <sethiroth66> it takes 3 minutes 15 seconds to lose 3 litres

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18:31 <CoderForLife> hmm

18:31 <Romulus> <> (at

18:32 <CoderForLife> and to the earlier Vista comment,2933,308301,00.html

18:32 <Romulus> <> (at

18:38 <CoderForLife> off to use the laptop downstairs =)

18:38 <CoderForLife> cya folks

18:38 <sethiroth66> ciao

19:15 <sethiroth66> sleep

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19:17 <ThePhantom86> hello all

19:18 <ThePhantom86> I'm testing this out with dual monitors while I play a game

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19:27 <ponchu> any spanish?

19:28 <ponchu> sleep

19:28 <ponchu> bye

20:00 <zombie67> I broke 8 million today!  w00t!

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20:12 <zombie67> Pov:  I broke 8 million today!  w00t!

20:12 <PovAddict> it seems I'll break 180k soon

20:12 <MTughan> Hmm... I wonder if I've broken 150K yet...

20:13 <MTughan> Hmm, not yet it seems.

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20:57 <ThePhantom86> I'm nearly at 5 million

20:57 <MTughan> And how long have you been crunching?

20:57 <ThePhantom86> since 2004

20:58 <BadBarbarian> i am near 200.000 lol

20:58 <MTughan> May 2006.

21:00 <ThePhantom86> it only gets harder at the top

21:01 <ThePhantom86> back in a sec

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21:02 <Romulus> well getting 1 mor computer on on of my "off" periods, and it didn't asked for 0, not -0 :P

21:02 <MTughan> Whoa... Okay, it loads, but with no text.

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21:04 <wdsmia> You're the BOINC Beta Test user of the day! ....Sun, 8 Feb 2004

21:05 <wdsmia> seems like a long time ago lol

21:05 <ThePhantom86> it is

21:08 <ThePhantom86> I'm still waiting for my Seti UOTD

21:10 <ThePhantom86> &weather 47201

21:10 <Romulus> ThePhantom86: Temperature: 41.7F / 5.4C | Humidity: 21% | Pressure: 29.26in / 990.7hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 5.4mph / 8.7km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Wednesday - Mostly sunny. Highs around 50. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Wednesday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows in the lower 30s. South winds up to 10 mph.;

21:10 <wdsmia> there it is, Fri Jan 02, 2004 first boinc account

21:11 <wdsmia> &weather 50265

21:11 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 33F / 1C | Humidity: 59% | Pressure: 30.43in / 1030hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Low in the lower 20s. West wind 5 to 10 mph.; Wednesday - Partly sunny. High in the upper 40s. South wind 5 to 15 mph increasing to 15 to 20 mph in the afternoon.; Wednesday Night - Mostly cloudy early in the evening then becoming partly (1 more message)

21:11 <wdsmia> &more

21:11 <Romulus> wdsmia: cloudy. Low in the lower 30s. South wind around 15 mph shifting to the west after midnight.;

21:14 <ThePhantom86> Gaming with dual monitors isn't what I thought it would be like

22:27 <quail> MTughan: ping

22:27 <MTughan> Yo.

22:27 <freelarry> hard to watch both screens ThePhantom86?

22:28 <BadBarbarian> evening quail

22:28 <quail> MTughan: you know how yesterday you said you like to get into C++, are you interested in helping out on this project >>>

22:28 <Romulus> Title: Me TV, it's TV for me computer in Launchpad (at

22:29 <BadBarbarian> & freelarry

22:29 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Error: You need to have PySQLite installed to use this plugin.  Download it at <>

22:29 <quail> g'afternoon all, how are we all?

22:29 <BadBarbarian> good you

22:29 <quail> not to bad thanks

22:29 <MTughan> quail: Not at the moment. I'm struggling with GIMP right now. Ask me again in a week or so, and I might be able to help.

22:29 <MTughan> And hello to you too.

22:30 <quail> MTughan: kewl

22:30 <BadBarbarian> lol

22:31 <MTughan> From PovAddict: Intel 8088 on a breadboard...

22:31 <Romulus> <> (at

22:32 <Romulus> from Google and Apple = no Coding. How structured of you!

22:37 <wdsmia> MTughan thats what I leaned on still have the boards stuck in a box somewhere

22:40 <wdsmia> well time flys and eyelids droop... nn

22:41 <MTughan> Night.

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