IRC logs of #boinc for Monday, 2007-11-12

00:00 <Tank_Master> cable is close to $60 here

00:00 <mweltin_> and is it sub  dialup speed?

00:00 <mweltin_> I don't think so.

00:00 <mweltin_> about the only good thing is the static IP.

00:00 <Tank_Master> no, just unreliable

00:00 <Tank_Master> haha

00:01 <mweltin_> and don't get me started with qwest.

00:01 <Tank_Master> and that its there

00:01 <Tank_Master> we dont have quest here

00:01 <mweltin_> I have to get dinner started.

00:01 <Tank_Master> ok

00:01 <Tank_Master> gl ;)

00:01 <mweltin_> I'll talk to you later.

00:01 <mweltin_> thanks

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00:01 <MTughan> Night.

00:02 <Tank_Master> you takin off to?

00:02 <Tank_Master> gn then

00:02 <MTughan> I will be.

00:02 <Tank_Master> ahh

00:03 <MTughan> Saying night to mweltin.

00:03 <Tank_Master> i c

00:03 <MTughan> Hey, new CAD and XKCD should be up...

00:03 <Tank_Master> CAD?

00:04 <Tank_Master> I was just playing againce someone called CAD...

00:04 <MTughan> Ctrl+Alt+Delete. It's a gaming comic.

00:04 <MTughan> lol

00:04 <Tank_Master> whats the URL?

00:04 <Tank_Master> &cyborg URL

00:04 <Romulus> Tank_Master: U.R.L.: Upgraded Robotic Lifeform

00:04 <MTughan> Don't remember off the top of my head. Google it.

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00:07 <Tank_Master> uh oh

00:07 <Tank_Master> cw is back

00:08 <MTughan> lol, 'lo c0dey

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00:09 <Tank_Master_> odd

00:10 <Tank_Master_> apparently my internet got bumped

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00:14 * Tank_Master_ slaps Tank_Master around a bit with a large trout

00:15 <Unwise> hmm

00:15 <Tank_Master_> I thought you left...

00:15 <Unwise> I'm back

00:15 <Unwise> and it's fixed

00:15 <Tank_Master_> wb then ;)

00:15 <Tank_Master_> good

00:16 <Tank_Master_> what was the prob?

00:16 <Unwise> selinux permission execmem stack

00:19 <MTughan> Well, I'm off to bed. Bye all.

00:19 <MTughan> &nn all

00:19 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

00:19 <Unwise> Running merrily along w/ seti@home, climate, and Einstein@home

00:25 <Tank_Master_> gn MT

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00:26 <Tank_Master_> bout fikin time!

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00:27 <Unwise> gn

00:27 <Tank_Master> took almost 20 min for it to figure out that I have been d/ced

00:27 <Tank_Master> gn

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01:12 <Tank_Master> wb

01:40 <Tank_Master>

01:40 <Romulus> <$SY> (at

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04:19 <E-30> hey

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04:32 <CoderForLife> IRC client update - brb

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04:34 <CoderForLife> testing

04:35 <CoderForLife> &ping

04:35 <Romulus> pong

04:35 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

04:35 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 50.0F / 10.0C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 30.08in / 1018.5hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 3.5mph / 5.6km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Highs in the mid 60s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - A chance of showers in the evening...then showers with a chance of thunderstorms after midnight. Lows around 50. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph...becoming west (1 more message)

04:35 <CoderForLife> &more

04:35 <Romulus> CoderForLife: 5 to 10 mph after midnight. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Tuesday - Mostly cloudy. Showers likely in the morning...then a chance of showers in the afternoon. Highs around 60. East winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.;

04:41 <E-30> hey cfl

04:41 <E-30> &weather wiesbaden

04:41 <Romulus> E-30: Temperature: 40.3°F / 4.6°C | Humidity: 53% | Pressure: 30.07in / 1018.2hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 7.6mph / 12.2km/h | Updated: 10:00 AM CET; Chance of Rain. High:41 F. / 5 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:33 F. / 1 C.; Chance of Rain. High:37 F. / 3 C.; Rain. Low:32 F. / 0 C.; Overcast. High:35 F. / 2 C.; Chance of Snow. Low:28 F. / -2 C.;

04:41 <E-30> not badd

04:41 <E-30> time for makeing coffee

04:42 <E-30> &coffee

04:42 <Romulus> Here's your quad expresso!! BANG! Need an ambulance in 10 minutes?

04:49 <E-30> well now i am working on my espresso with coffee now

04:49 <E-30> it 2will take about 3 mins now

04:54 <E-30> yea coffee

04:54 <CoderForLife> hello E-30

04:54 <E-30> hey how are you doing

04:54 * CoderForLife reads the morning news

04:54 <E-30> anthing good in there

04:55 <CoderForLife> if you love bad news, it's great

04:55 <E-30> wow that all they do now

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04:57 <E-30> yea all junk

04:58 <E-30> i am still trying to make up my mind to play games today or not

04:59 <CoderForLife> I wonder if I could have a similar decision to go to w@#% or not

05:00 <E-30> yea i know how that

05:00 <E-30> is

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05:08 <E-30> well i guess it time to play some

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05:14 <CoderForLife> Bill Gates wants me to reboot - brb, hopefully

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05:21 <CoderForLife> &ping

05:21 <Romulus> pong

05:22 <CoderForLife> &eightball  Will these latest Windows XP patches be the last ones?

05:22 <Romulus> CoderForLife: The outlook is good.

05:22 * CoderForLife hereby discounts Rommy-wisdom

05:31 <CoderForLife> off to w@#%

05:51 <quail> g'evening all, how are we all?

07:22 <MTughan> Gah, need to be off for school...

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10:30 <quail> morning all, how are we all?

10:38 <Tank_Master> rushed

10:38 <Tank_Master> sleped in to long :P

10:41 <BadBarbarian> lol

10:42 <Tank_Master> sweet

10:42 <Tank_Master> im predictor's UoTD!

10:48 <Tank_Master> im outa here

10:50 <quail> I can't sleep, it sucks when you just lie in bed and can't fall to sleep

10:51 <PovAddict> indeed

10:52 <quail> so I have gotten up to try do something constructive

11:04 <BadBarbarian> morning quail

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11:09 <zombie67> LHC is back up and has work

11:10 <zombie67> I broke 500,000 on SIMAP!

11:27 <zombie67> povaddict:  Good one today....

11:27 <Romulus> Title: xkcd - A webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language - By Randall Munroe (at

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11:47 <PriitM> I never knew that #ubuntu and #boinc are both in freenode

11:47 <PovAddict> freenode has everything

11:47 <PriitM> i see

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12:27 <TMatWork> howdy

12:28 <PriitM> hi

12:28 <zombie67> hello

12:28 <TMatWork> sup

12:29 <PovAddict> sky

12:29 <TMatWork> gfettin kinda stormy here today :)

12:30 <zombie67> clear as a bell here

12:31 <zombie67> TM:  passed you on TSP

12:32 <zombie67> get some LHC while you can

12:32 <PovAddict> I think I'll reset my debts and enable workfetch on all projects

12:32 <PovAddict> and let it loose

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12:33 <zombie67> welcome to my world

12:33 <PovAddict> I currently have only simap

12:33 <zombie67> paseed 500k on SIMAP yesterday

12:33 <PovAddict> if they have a short batch, I'll try to help them getting it done as fast as possible

12:33 <PovAddict> but this one is big, I can't be bothered :)

12:34 <zombie67> yeah, now that I hit 500k, I dropped my share way down.

12:34 <zombie67> I think I will target 100k each month

12:34 <PovAddict> what the...

12:35 <PovAddict> I have positive debt on simap?!

12:37 <zombie67> PovAddict:  MilkyWay admin needs help trying to cancel tasks.  Can't figure out how.

12:38 <PovAddict> stop project and

12:38 <Romulus> <$aY> (at

12:39 <TMatWork> its asking for a login...

12:39 <PovAddict> it will work for the admin

12:39 <TMatWork> ahh, ok

12:39 <TMatWork> so not for me?

12:39 <PovAddict> better not

12:40 <TMatWork> LOL

12:40 <TMatWork> no prob

12:40 <PovAddict> you could see peoples passwords and stuff if you had that login

12:40 <TMatWork> ouch

12:40 <TMatWork> ok, wont evern bother trying then ;)

12:41 <TMatWork> zombie: I had two circurs down over the weekend in the classroom

12:42 <TMatWork> 7 P4s, a Pd and 20 P3s

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12:43 <TMatWork> hiya yoyo

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12:46 <zombie67> bummer

12:47 <zombie67> PovAddict:  that form will allow both kinds of cancelations (all vs. just those that have not yet started)?

12:47 <PovAddict> I think it only cancels existing ones

12:47 <PovAddict> I don't know how the server-side aborts work

12:48 <zombie67> ah.  That is what they need help with, server-side abortions

12:49 <PovAddict> they happen automatically in some cases

12:49 <PovAddict> like when a WU reaches quorum

12:49 <PovAddict> I have no idea how to force one

12:50 <zombie67> okay, worth a shot

12:50 <PovAddict> tell them to ask on the mailing lists

12:51 <PovAddict> in any case, "aborting" the unsent workunits should be done...

12:51 <PovAddict> to avoid people getting *new* bad units

12:55 <yoyo[RKN]> in the management gui you can cancel wus

12:55 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: that cancels unsent ones

12:55 <PovAddict> does it do server-side aborts with workunits already sent?

12:56 <yoyo[RKN]> yes

12:56 <yoyo[RKN]> on the client you see something like cancelled by server

12:56 <zombie67> so the same URL above is used for server side abortions?

12:56 <PovAddict> it does both, apparently

12:56 <zombie67> great!

12:56 <zombie67> I'll let them know

12:57 <yoyo[RKN]> which project?

12:58 <zombie67> milky way:

12:58 <Romulus> <$b1> (at

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13:09 <Tank_Master> hiya BB

13:09 <BadBarbarian> hi

13:12 <freelarry> &weather 98366

13:12 <Romulus> freelarry: Temperature: 46F / 8C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.48in / 998hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 23mph / 37km/h ; Rest of Today - Rain. Becoming very windy. Highs near 50. South wind increasing to 30 to 40 mph with gusts to 60 mph possible.; Tonight - Showers in the evening...then showers likely after midnight. Windy early. Lows near 40. Southwest wind 20 to 30 mph (1 more message)

13:12 <freelarry> &more

13:12 <Romulus> freelarry: decreasing to 10 to 15 mph after midnight.; Tuesday - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers. Highs near 50. Southwest wind 10 to 15 mph.; High Wind Warning for Kitsap County in effect until 4:00 PM PST on November 12, 2007;

13:13 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

13:13 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 49.2F / 9.6C | Humidity: 85% | Pressure: 29.64in / 1003.6hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 16.0mph / 25.7km/h ; Today - Rain. Very windy. South wind 20 to 30 mph with gusts 40 to 50 mph. Highs 55 to 60.; Tonight - Showers in the evening...then showers likely after midnight. Lows 40 to 45. Southwest wind easing to 10 to 15 mph.; Tuesday - Mostly cloudy. (1 more message)

13:13 <Tank_Master> &more

13:13 <Romulus> Tank_Master: A chance of showers in the morning...then a slight chance of showers in the afternoon. Highs around 50. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph becoming light in the afternoon.; Wind Advisory for Washington County in effect until 4:00 PM PST on November 12, 2007;

13:13 <zombie67> weather 94568

13:13 <freelarry> rain and wind here snow in passes

13:13 <zombie67> &weather 94568

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13:13 <Romulus> zombie67: Temperature: 60.2F / 15.7C | Humidity: 53% | Pressure: 30.16in / 1021.2hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly cloudy. Highs in the upper 50s and 60s. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 40s to lower 50s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tuesday - Partly cloudy. Highs in the 60s to lower 70s. Southwest winds 5 (1 more message)

13:13 <zombie67> &more

13:13 <Romulus> zombie67: to 10 mph...becoming northwest in the afternoon.;

13:14 <E-30> hey

13:14 <Tank_Master> where you at, freelary?

13:14 <freelarry> howdy

13:14 <E-30> how is everyone

13:14 <freelarry> port orchard wa

13:14 <Tank_Master> ahh, explains y you are getting the same weather as me :)

13:14 <Tank_Master> im good, E-30

13:14 <freelarry> yup you close

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13:15 <Tank_Master> im near Portland, OR

13:15 <E-30> cool i am doing good

13:15 <freelarry> &zipinfo 97007

13:15 <Romulus> freelarry: City: Beaverton; State: OR; County: Washington; Area Code: 503; Time Zone: PST; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 45.4535 (North); Longitude: 122.8761 (West)

13:16 <E-30> &zipinfo 09096

13:16 <Romulus> E-30: City: APO; State: AE; County: ; Area Code: 000; Time Zone: GMT+1; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 0.0000 (North); Longitude: 0.0000 (West)

13:16 <freelarry> &zipinfo 98366

13:16 <Romulus> freelarry: City: Port Orchard; State: WA; County: Kitsap; Area Code: 360; Time Zone: PST; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 47.5378 (North); Longitude: 122.5894 (West)

13:16 <E-30> wow

13:16 <E-30> &zipinfo 74130

13:16 <Romulus> E-30: City: Tulsa; State: OK; County: Tulsa; Area Code: 918; Time Zone: CST; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 36.2467 (North); Longitude: 95.9514 (West)

13:17 <freelarry> you back in states now E-30?

13:17 <E-30> naa i am still here in germany

13:17 <freelarry> humm isn't 0 0 on the equator?

13:18 <freelarry> but cant remembr if off coast of africa or at dateline

13:19 <E-30> yea they dont give out the lat and log to army bases

13:19 <Tank_Master> dateline is in teh pacific

13:19 <E-30> \lol

13:19 <freelarry> lol or ships - which are always changing

13:19 <Tank_Master> 0 is the same ad london

13:19 <Tank_Master> as*

13:19 <E-30> wow

13:19 <freelarry> k then off coast of africa the

13:19 <freelarry> n

13:19 <E-30> lol

13:20 <E-30> nice come back ther

13:20 <E-30> e

13:20 * freelarry dang fingers not working well - especailly with rain falling off them

13:20 <Tank_Master> at least the leave are off the trees now...

13:21 <freelarry> mostly - at least in front yard - woods behind still have a lot on trees here

13:21 <Tank_Master> ahh

13:21 <Tank_Master> its a mess downtown now

13:22 <freelarry> street sweeper overtime ;)

13:22 <Tank_Master> with the leaves blowen everywhere, and cloging the drains

13:22 <freelarry> yup storm drains getting clogged also

13:23 <freelarry> been seeing a lot more of the super sucker running around here also

13:23 <Tank_Master> :)

13:23 <Tank_Master> I bet

13:23 * freelarry needs to find someone with good sense of balance to clean out his gutters

13:23 <freelarry> 3 stories up to high for me

13:24 <Tank_Master> haha

13:24 <Tank_Master> yeah...

13:24 <freelarry> vertigo attacks after 6 ft climb

13:24 <Tank_Master> as long as its not a steep roof, id be fine

13:24 <Tank_Master> ouch

13:24 <freelarry> think its a 6:10 pitch

13:25 <freelarry> bit to steep for me

13:25 <Tank_Master> mine is much lower than the standard now

13:25 <Tank_Master> makes walking easy

13:25 <freelarry> yeah

13:29 * freelarry makes note to self that when roof needs replaced - get safety line hooksup installed on new roof

13:29 <Tank_Master> lol

13:29 <Tank_Master> good idea

13:29 <freelarry> would feel better hiring someone if they already existed

13:30 <Tank_Master> true, and im sure they would me more likely to work on it to...

13:31 <freelarry> yup

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13:37 <Tank_Master> I got 1,666 credits now in TSP

13:41 <freelarry> thrift savings plan?

13:42 <Tank_Master> traveling salesman problem

13:43 <freelarry> i see

13:43 <Tank_Master>

13:43 <Romulus> Title: TSP (at

13:43 <freelarry> just read it from bincstats link

13:43 <Tank_Master> $cyborg TSP

13:43 <Tank_Master> &cyborg TSP

13:43 <Romulus> Tank_Master: T.S.P.: Transforming Synthetic Person

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14:06 <Tank_Master> &cyborg yourmom

14:06 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Y.O.U.R.M.O.M.: Ytterbium Operational Unit Responsible for Mathematics and Online Murder

14:07 <Tank_Master> lol

14:09 <wdsmia> &weather 50265

14:09 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 59F / 15C | Humidity: 24% | Pressure: 30.15in / 1021hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h ; Rest of Today - Partly sunny. High in the upper 50s. North wind 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with isolated rain showers in the evening... then partly cloudy after midnight. Colder. Low in the mid 30s. North wind near 10 mph. Chance of (1 more message)

14:09 <wdsmia> &more

14:09 <Romulus> wdsmia: showers 20 percent.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. High in the mid 60s. South wind 5 to 15 mph.;

14:20 <zombie67> MilkyWay is now showing on the Resources page of BAM

14:20 <TMatWork> cool

14:20 <TMatWork> bout time

14:20 <TMatWork> wasnt a 1/2 hr ago when I checked ;)

14:20 <TMatWork> is ther windows app working now?

14:20 <zombie67> I believe so

14:20 <TMatWork> cool

14:21 <zombie67> at least the 32 bit is

14:21 <TMatWork> is there a native 64bit app for them?

14:21 <TMatWork> working or not

14:21 <yoyo[RKN]> I crunched some milkyways now on windows

14:22 <zombie67> TSP = 2,152 for me ;)

14:22 <TMatWork> looks like they only have a 32bit app

14:22 <TMatWork> congrats

14:22 <zombie67> who has only 32 bit?

14:23 <TMatWork> I just got the last of my comps up, so its gonna take a but for the work to start to flow in.

14:23 <TMatWork> MW

14:23 <zombie67> yeah

14:23 <TMatWork> I asked if they had a native 64bit for windows

14:23 <zombie67> but they *do* have mac apps!

14:23 <TMatWork> hehe'

14:23 <TMatWork> thats good

14:23 <zombie67> impressive for a new project

14:25 <TMatWork> lol

14:25 <TMatWork> so is 64bit windows

14:25 <TMatWork> but most dont want to take the time

14:26 <TMatWork> I not have MW attached to all my 32bit comps via BAM!

14:26 <TMatWork> should start to return workwithin the hr

14:26 <TMatWork> now*

14:27 <BadBarbarian> lol tank i think i will let the new system be for the moment and run vista till the warrenty is over 30 days

14:27 <TMatWork> you got it up n running now?

14:28 <BadBarbarian> not yet still not here

14:28 <zombie67> BB, when did your box arrive?

14:28 <TMatWork> ahh

14:28 <TMatWork> to bad

14:28 <BadBarbarian> out for dilevery i hope

14:28 <zombie67> still not there?

14:28 <BadBarbarian> nope

14:28 <zombie67> grrrr

14:29 <BadBarbarian> brown is letting me down

14:30 <TMatWork> brown: how can we let you down today?

14:30 <BadBarbarian> lol its on the truck for delivery

14:32 <zombie67> not a lot of work at MW ready to send.

14:32 <zombie67> oh yea, I'm #1 there too.   ;)

14:32 <TMatWork> haha

14:33 <TMatWork> sush u!

14:33 <TMatWork> how much do you have?

14:33 <zombie67> 10,471.02

14:33 <BadBarbarian> if i keep the 32bit vista for a while i will run seti

14:34 <zombie67> Whlie everyone was having wedged taskes on windows machines, my Macs continued to make hay

14:34 <Romulus> and fails too, I can figure out what to see those two "In progress" finishes, you'll get a little cheaper than DVDs. They don't have unsafe sex - no art, no eat"

14:35 <TMatWork> im in second for Brats

14:35 <zombie67> Just lucky!

14:36 <TMatWork> :)

14:36 <zombie67> They release only about 5 a week....

14:36 <TMatWork> if that, its been months since I have goten work

14:37 <TMatWork> ill brb, need to move a comp to help with the powe load

14:37 <zombie67> I got some back in aug

14:38 <zombie67> yoyo:  any news on adding another project?

14:39 <yoyo[RKN]> zombie67 : no public news, only internal between our admins

14:39 <Tank_Master> more work the better!

14:39 <zombie67> cool.  when do you expect to be able to announce something?

14:39 <Tank_Master> just did

14:39 <zombie67> ?

14:40 <Tank_Master> he just announced here that there is unofficial news!

14:41 <zombie67> *snort*

14:41 <yoyo[RKN]> don't know. I'm doing the whole project in my spare time and will announce it if I have something available

14:41 <zombie67> okay

14:41 <Tank_Master> cool

14:41 <Tank_Master> gl with the new project!

14:42 <yoyo[RKN]> I'm not a fan of announcing something and afterwards nothing happens for month

14:42 <Tank_Master> good

14:42 <Tank_Master> my boss dose that to us all the time

14:42 <Tank_Master> lower the credibility of what she says each time ;)

14:43 <yoyo[RKN]> jup

14:44 <yoyo[RKN]> the state is: I know the next project, I'm in contact with the project owner and I have an idea how to do it.

14:45 <Tank_Master> good

14:45 <Tank_Master> are you in the talk fase still?

14:46 <yoyo[RKN]> I agreed with the project owner to do it. Next step is to implement some beta trials.

14:46 <Tank_Master> nice, so yeah, you defently dont have a definate idea on when it can be avalible

14:47 <zombie67> I would be happy to run tests if you need macs (bothe PPC and Intel) or PS3

14:47 <Tank_Master> hehe, PS3

14:47 <Tank_Master> and I got 64bit windows I can help with

14:48 <zombie67> the curent yoyo rouject runs on PS3, 2000-3000 PPD

14:48 <Tank_Master> I know, which is great, if only I had a PS3...

14:49 <yoyo[RKN]> I hope to have the test running latest as christmas gift ;)

14:49 <zombie67> are you going to implement "test app" switch under project prefs?

14:49 <Tank_Master> hehe

14:49 <yoyo[RKN]> yes zombie67

14:50 <zombie67> cool.  much better than messing with anonymous platform...

14:51 <zombie67> Malaria Control uses it a lot too.

14:53 <yoyo[RKN]> it is already in yoyo@home prefs prepared

15:00 <PovAddict> awwwwwwwwwwww

15:00 <Romulus> Title: LOLCATS.COM - Funny Lolcat Pictures (at

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15:10 <Tank_Master> those are great

15:10 <PovAddict>

15:10 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Very funny cats (at

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15:12 <E-30> ok i am back

15:14 <Tank_Master> bout time

15:14 <Tank_Master> ;)

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15:21 <E-30> yea had to go play my game for a while

15:21 <Tank_Master> hehe

15:21 <Tank_Master> which game?

15:22 <E-30> battle field 2142

15:22 <Tank_Master> nice

15:22 <Tank_Master> never played it, but I hear its good

15:22 <E-30> had 40 kills in 10 mins

15:22 <Tank_Master> im nore an unreal fan

15:22 <BiteAbleKat> got some new ringtonez and apps for my phone

15:22 <Tank_Master> haha, good times!

15:23 <E-30> ai cant wate for unreal 3 to come out

15:23 <Tank_Master> same here

15:23 <E-30> cool

15:23 <Tank_Master> I need a new vid card though

15:23 <E-30> also need for speed carbon

15:23 <Tank_Master> my 6800 ultra isnt going to cut it...

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15:23 <E-30> nop[

15:23 <E-30> i have a 8800 gts

15:23 <Tank_Master> just one?

15:23 <Tank_Master> hehe

15:23 <E-30> yea

15:23 <Tank_Master> nice card

15:23 <E-30> i had two it was too loud

15:24 <Tank_Master> ahh

15:24 <E-30> sounded like a tran

15:24 <Tank_Master> what did you do with your other one?

15:24 <E-30> train

15:24 <E-30> sold it in march

15:24 <Tank_Master> doh

15:24 <E-30> got 500 for it

15:24 <Tank_Master> nice return

15:24 <E-30> becuse it had a wattetr cooling block on it

15:24 <Tank_Master> aahhh

15:24 <E-30> more then i pade

15:25 <E-30> pad

15:25 <Tank_Master> paid

15:25 <E-30> i konw

15:25 <E-30> inow

15:25 <E-30> know

15:25 <E-30> it my keyboard again

15:25 <Tank_Master> lol, I do that all the time to

15:25 <E-30> pushing two keys at once

15:26 <E-30> oh well

15:27 <E-30> i have a nice computer right now it will run any game out there

15:27 <E-30> as is

15:27 <Tank_Master> you played the UT3 demo yet?

15:28 <E-30> core 2 duo 6600 oc to 3.4 ghz and 2 gig of ram and 1 tb of hd space

15:28 <E-30> now

15:28 <E-30> i am going to wate till it comes out

15:29 <Tank_Master> mine is a core2duo 6700ES OC to 3.07 with 8 GB DDR2 800 hyperX and 4 raptor drives

15:29 <Tank_Master> dual display

15:29 <Tank_Master> crap, 2GB DDR

15:29 <Tank_Master> not 8

15:29 <Tank_Master> the raptors are in RAI0

15:30 <E-30> running xp

15:30 <Tank_Master> server 2008 RCo x64

15:30 <Tank_Master> that way I get the benifets of DX10 and 64bit

15:31 <E-30> i see

15:31 <E-30> cool

15:31 <Tank_Master> even with my measly vid card, I can run UT 2k4 @ 2048x1536 no prob

15:31 <Tank_Master> XP I wouldnt want to go more than 1600x1200

15:32 <E-30> well

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15:32 <Tank_Master> put s2k8 crunches faster ;)

15:32 <E-30> i am going to vista with my next beild i think

15:32 <Tank_Master> plus*

15:32 <E-30> fior dx 10

15:32 <Tank_Master> good choice for gaming and crunching

15:32 <Tank_Master> if you have 2gb or more RAM

15:33 <E-30> well i have 4 here all i cn us is 2

15:33 <E-30> can

15:33 <Tank_Master> its a limitation do to hardware runing in 32bit mode

15:33 <Tank_Master>

15:33 <Romulus> <$dt> (at

15:34 <E-30>

15:34 <Romulus> <> (at

15:35 <Tank_Master> nice rig

15:36 <E-30> i had to take out my other vid card

15:36 <Tank_Master>

15:36 <Romulus> <$dv> (at

15:36 <E-30> wow miss there

15:36 <E-30> cool

15:36 <Tank_Master> its cleaner now, but not by much

15:36 <E-30> lol

15:37 <Tank_Master> 2 of the systems are at work now

15:37 <Tank_Master> so I dont have to pay for the power

15:37 <E-30> well my desk looks the same still dew on the desk

15:38 <E-30> is that watter cooling i see there

15:38 <Tank_Master> on mine?

15:38 <E-30> cool

15:38 <E-30> yea

15:38 <Tank_Master> no, not yet

15:38 <Tank_Master> soemthing I have been wanting to get into

15:38 <E-30> thwhat the box my you open tower

15:38 <Tank_Master> just a bunch of juel cases to prop the fan up

15:39 <E-30> i see

15:39 <Tank_Master> the raptors can get hot

15:39 <E-30> i know that

15:39 <Tank_Master> hot enough that withthe case on, it rases my CPU temp 10f

15:40 <Tank_Master> but now that I have a core2, that really shouldnt be an issue

15:40 <E-30> it still is

15:40 <Tank_Master> I got a typhoon on it

15:40 <E-30> well my is at 3.426 and running at 48 c now

15:40 <Tank_Master> right not its running around 95f o/c and full load

15:40 <E-30> if you are funning air you are going to be up to 70 c then

15:41 <E-30> how is mine jest running hot or siomthing

15:41 <E-30> something

15:41 <Tank_Master> I dont seem to be abel to get much above 3.2 w/o issues

15:41 <E-30> too hot

15:41 <Tank_Master> 3.1*

15:41 <Tank_Master> no, just crashes

15:41 <Tank_Master> but its an ES, so who know how stable it really is

15:42 <Tank_Master> engenering sample

15:42 <E-30> its the lean between the processers get too hot

15:42 <E-30> it 5 c above the core

15:42 <E-30> es

15:42 <E-30> what is that

15:42 <Tank_Master> non- saleable

15:43 <Tank_Master> they give one to testers, reviewers, and some people who work at intel

15:43 <Tank_Master> I can get one free a year

15:43 <E-30> how much did you paid for it

15:43 <Tank_Master> its free

15:43 <Tank_Master> so I get may more than what I payed for :P

15:44 <E-30> true

15:44 <Tank_Master> I may redablle in o/cing it again

15:44 <E-30> i wish i had one

15:45 <Tank_Master> work for intel in the R&D ;)

15:45 <Tank_Master> also includes manufactuing development

15:45 <E-30> where i am in the army

15:45 <Tank_Master> ireland would probably be the closet to you

15:46 <Tank_Master> your somewhere in europ, right?

15:46 <E-30> hopw do i gat in there then while i am in tha army

15:46 <E-30> germany

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15:46 <Tank_Master> mw!

15:46 <E-30> yea

15:46 <mweltin> Tank_Master!

15:46 <Tank_Master> I need more work! ;)

15:46 <E-30> wiesbaden

15:46 <mweltin> ok just a sec

15:46 <E-30> lol

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15:47 <Tank_Master> im sure you can just leave the army just to get a free processor, right?

15:47 <Tank_Master> hehe, nice

15:47 <E-30> lol

15:47 <E-30> yea rignt

15:47 <E-30> i am going home in 2009

15:47 <Tank_Master> they will understand...

15:47 <Tank_Master> nice

15:47 <E-30> to oklahoma again

15:47 <Tank_Master> some great stuff will be out by then

15:48 <mweltin> yes from what I hear the new Army is very understanding about awol folks

15:48 <E-30> lol yea right

15:48 <Tank_Master> :P

15:48 <mweltin> oh that must have been the Costa Rican army, maybe not the us army.

15:49 <Tank_Master> the prosute of Processors is greater than the prosute of being appart of something greater than yourself

15:49 <Tank_Master> hehe

15:49 <Tank_Master> sweet, gettin more work

15:50 <E-30> in what project

15:50 <E-30> i am doing qmc right now

15:50 <mweltin> E-30: tsp

15:51 <E-30> lol

15:51 <yoyo[RKN]> moin mweltin

15:51 <yoyo[RKN]> how long does a tsp wu needs?

15:51 <Tank_Master> 11min on my windows co2duo 3.07

15:52 <mweltin> man I gotta make bigger workuints.

15:52 <Tank_Master> lol

15:52 <Tank_Master> I think it takes 2h on my P3

15:52 <E-30> qmc is sending out  about 24 wu now

15:52 <Tank_Master> just wate untill crunch3r optimizes the code...

15:52 <E-30> but you get close to 2k for them

15:52 <mweltin> E-30: do you run a project?

15:52 <Tank_Master> some of us are gettin 100h WUs from QMC

15:53 <E-30> naa

15:53 <E-30> i jes crunch on thatm

15:53 <E-30> wow

15:53 <Tank_Master> 11/12/2007 12:52:10 PM|traveling salesman problem|Message from server: (reached per-host limit of 4 tasks)

15:53 <mweltin> mmmmmmmmmm

15:53 <mweltin> I wonder where I set that?

15:54 <Tank_Master> or did I d/l bad WUs?

15:54 <zombie67> <mweltin>:  I thought you were targeting 1 hour on a modern processor?

15:54 <E-30> right now i am working on two_30l_folding.1916_2

15:54 <E-30> it a long one

15:54 <mweltin> max_wus_in_progress is 4

15:54 <Tank_Master> ahhh

15:54 <Tank_Master> ok

15:54 <yoyo[RKN]> i have some 100h wus of qmc

15:54 <Tank_Master> just so we can cache way up!

15:54 <E-30>

15:54 <Romulus> Title: QMC@HOME About (at

15:55 <E-30> i ahve one or the top ones ans 2 of the 5 one down now

15:55 <Tank_Master> just nabed atoun 40 WUs so far

15:55 <yoyo[RKN]> my tsp wus predicted with 4 minutes on my 1.6 GHz Laptop

15:55 <Tank_Master> around*

15:56 <zombie67> w00t!  work avaialabel!

15:56 <E-30> yea

15:56 <Tank_Master> your welcome, z

15:56 <mweltin> yoyo[RKN]: what?

15:56 <mweltin> did you finish a workunit in 4min?

15:56 <yoyo[RKN]> no

15:56 <mweltin> oh

15:57 <mweltin> good

15:57 <mweltin> there would be something very wrong if you had on a 1.6GHz box

15:57 <yoyo[RKN]> i started the first now. estimated time is 4 minutes

15:57 <PriitM> I got work for 6 days

15:57 <PriitM> few pretty nasty 10h WU-s

15:57 <mweltin> mmmmmm that doesn't sound right either.

15:58 <zombie67> recent WUs have taken 30 min on my 8-way windows box (2.66ghz)

15:58 <zombie67> and 15 min on my 8-way mac (3.0ghz)

16:01 <Tank_Master> just finished one

16:01 <Tank_Master> 11min 5sec

16:01 <Tank_Master> I also just finished a 14WU on ABC

16:02 <Tank_Master> thats the longest I have ever seen

16:02 <zombie67> which machine?

16:02 <Tank_Master> the 64bit core2

16:02 <zombie67> ah

16:02 <E-30> cool

16:02 <Tank_Master> to bad I only get 1k for that

16:03 <zombie67> 14 what?  hour?  day?

16:03 <Tank_Master> 14h

16:03 <Tank_Master> sorry

16:04 <Tank_Master> it only takes 6h to get a 1k WU, anthing more and you still only get 1k

16:05 <mweltin> hey guys I just got a call, I'm going diving on the north side of the island.

16:05 <Tank_Master> now?

16:06 <Tank_Master> well, hf!

16:06 <mweltin> I'll send out some more workunits.  I'm never sure how many get resleased due to a very poor choice on my part on a naming conventions.

16:06 <mweltin> I will

16:06 <mweltin> yes now.

16:06 <Tank_Master> hehe, good day for a dive?

16:06 <mweltin> I'll keep you posted when the validator is done.

16:06 <Tank_Master> good

16:07 <Tank_Master> r u going to revalidate some of the past results?

16:07 <yoyo[RKN]> tsp wu is running now since 11 minutes

16:07 <E-30> well i am uploading  a new screen shot now

16:08 <E-30>

16:08 <Romulus> Title: computer at 3.4 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (at

16:08 <Tank_Master> dual display goodness?

16:09 <E-30> uea

16:09 <E-30> ot good

16:09 <Tank_Master> haha

16:09 <Tank_Master> 11/12/2007 1:07:06 PM|traveling salesman problem|Reason: no work from project

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16:09 <Tank_Master> that didnt last long

16:09 <zombie67> Results ready to send10,875

16:09 <zombie67> you can download only 4 at a time

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16:10 <zombie67> at any time

16:10 <Tank_Master> I returned 2 already

16:10 <Tank_Master> I now only have 2

16:10 <E-30> well now you can see the temp and speed of the proceser

16:10 <E-30> wow

16:11 <Tank_Master> nice setup

16:11 <zombie67> TM, are you using an optimized app?

16:11 <Tank_Master> for tsp - might be just a slow feeder?

16:12 <Tank_Master> I havent been givin one yet

16:12 <zombie67> me neither

16:12 <Tank_Master> mine isnt even sse optimized

16:12 <E-30> send me the sight for the project

16:12 <Tank_Master> but it is 64bit

16:12 <zombie67> getting very close to 100k at POEM...

16:13 <Tank_Master>

16:13 <Romulus> Title: TSP (at

16:13 <Tank_Master> im just pased 25k

16:14 <zombie67> Then only NQ, sztaki, and Lieden left

16:15 <Tank_Master> not bad

16:16 <PriitM> 25 084 credits in SETI@home project with only 1 computer :>

16:17 <zombie67> Here is my highest computer at SETI:

16:17 <Romulus> <$eU> (at

16:17 <E-30> does it show how much you have done so far

16:18 <Tank_Master> not yet

16:18 <Tank_Master> possably in the next app

16:18 <E-30> so its jumps for 0 to 100 in like a sec

16:18 <zombie67> 537,066 for my 8-way mac

16:18 <Tank_Master> next WU took 12min 54 sec

16:18 <zombie67> at SETI

16:19 <Tank_Master> E-30,TSP should stay at 0 untill its finished

16:20 <E-30> ok

16:20 <E-30> that what i was asking

16:20 <Tank_Master> ahh, ok

16:20 <Tank_Master> probably around 10-15 min

16:20 <E-30> cool

16:22 <PriitM> my little calculating unit

16:22 <Romulus> <$ea> (at

16:23 <Tank_Master> now 14,099 wating to run

16:23 <Tank_Master> :)

16:23 <BiteAbleKat> alex is wearing a hoodie with a dauchsand on it and it says my weiner does tricks :|

16:24 <E-30> lol

16:28 <zombie67> It is taking my 2.66ghz X5355 about 1020 seconds per WU

16:28 <zombie67> or 17 min.

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16:29 <E-30> i am at 13 now

16:29 <E-30> seill working

16:29 <MTughan> 13 what?

16:29 <E-30> mins

16:29 <MTughan> Ah. For what?

16:29 <zombie67> TPS

16:29 <E-30> ye a

16:30 <MTughan> TPS or TSP?

16:30 <zombie67> TSP

16:30 <zombie67> you can't read Typo?

16:30 <MTughan> Cool... Did you have a chance to try the Mac PPC app?

16:30 <E-30> 14:07 done with the first one now

16:30 <zombie67> the stock PPC app?  yes

16:30 <E-30> lol

16:31 <MTughan> Well, 14 minutes sound about on par with my Mac. Is there more work then?

16:31 <zombie67> yes

16:31 <MTughan> Sweet...

16:31 <zombie67> does the stock ppc app use altivec?

16:31 <E-30> 847 sec on that one

16:31 <MTughan> Yes.

16:31 <MTughan> &math convert 847 seconds to minutes

16:31 <Romulus> MTughan: 14.1166666667

16:32 <MTughan> zombie67: Is Altivec a problem?

16:32 <E-30> not bad

16:32 <zombie67> My PPC (2.5ghz quad) runs them in about 1330 seconds.

16:32 <MTughan> Really? Wow...

16:32 <zombie67> no, altivec is good.

16:32 <zombie67> wow good?  or wow bad?

16:33 <MTughan> That seems long.

16:33 <TMatWork> wow, as in World of War

16:33 <MTughan> lol

16:34 <zombie67> you can look here:

16:34 <Romulus> <$ep> (at

16:34 <Romulus> wow you are getting early night, have to do a videoinstallation with 18 projectors...

16:34 <TMatWork> theres some 14k wus left now

16:36 <TMatWork> rommie might actually make since if he talked english

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16:37 <MTughan> zombie67: Well, at least they're consistent.

16:38 <MTughan> I'll see what other optimizations PPC can take.

16:44 <zombie67> Here is a G4 (1.33ghz):

16:44 <Romulus> <$f6> (at

16:45 <E-30> 801 secs for the next two

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16:45 <MTughan> Hmm... So why does a 2.5GHz PPC quad run slower than my 2.0GHz Intel dual?

16:46 <Romulus> so how are you subscribed to the usa

16:46 <Tank_Master> same reason a P4 3.6 is slower than a core2 2.66?

16:46 <MTughan> Could be... I didn't think the G5s were that bad though.

16:46 <MTughan> The G4 I can understand.

16:47 <Tank_Master> wasnt it one of the reasons apple went with intel?

16:47 <E-30> i am running 64 bit insted of 32

16:47 <MTughan> One of the major reasons was faster progress. Like the 60 and 45nm manufacturing.

16:47 <Tank_Master> ahh

16:47 <MTughan> E-30: Good for ABC.

16:48 <Tank_Master> I didnt think the MAC was 64bit yet, not untill OSx10.5

16:48 <MTughan> I don't know if the 45nm is faster than the G5s though.

16:48 <MTughan> Tiger is 64-bit.

16:48 <Tank_Master> which is?

16:48 <MTughan> 10.4.

16:48 <Tank_Master> ahh, cool

16:48 <MTughan> They make 32 and 64-bit versions anyway. Dunno about Panther.

16:48 <Tank_Master> I wonder why berkeley wated untill 10.5 to come out with a 64bit BOINC for the MAC then

16:49 <MTughan> brb

16:49 <Tank_Master> which I dont believe has been released yet

16:49 <Tank_Master> ok

16:49 <E-30> and the cash on the prcesser to

16:49 <zombie67> Tiger is sorta 64 bit.

16:50 <zombie67> Leopars is full 64 bit

16:50 <Tank_Master> then that might be y

16:51 <E-30> oh well

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17:01 <MTughan> Okay, so that's what it is. I knew you could run 64-bit on the Mac Pro Xeons.

17:03 <zombie67> G5 and Xeons are both 64 bit processors

17:03 <MTughan> True. And C2Ds, as I've heard.

17:03 <zombie67> I think G4 are not 64 bit, but am not sure.

17:04 <Romulus> <-- also than one of these WUs a day for sure

17:04 <zombie67> Yes, C2 are 64 bit

17:04 <MTughan> The Mac minis were 64-bit? I don't think so.

17:04 <zombie67> Mac Mini are core, not core 2.

17:04 <Tank_Master> the OS may not have been, even if the CPU is

17:05 <MTughan> No, when they came out. They came with G4s.

17:05 <Tank_Master> ahh, that to ;)

17:05 <zombie67> yes, originally G4, then Core (solo and duo)

17:05 <MTughan> Yep. I was originally looking at the minis.

17:05 <zombie67> now C2D

17:12 <zombie67> the 64 bit limitation on Macs is the OS (Tiger).  Leopard is fulll 64 bit.

17:13 <MTughan> What's not fully 64-bit about Tiger?

17:13 <zombie67> looking now...

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17:17 <zombie67> see here:

17:17 <Romulus> <$fe> (at

17:18 <zombie67> read the first paragraph

17:18 <zombie67> "Now the Cocoa application frameworks, as well as graphics, scripting, and the UNIX foundations of the Mac, are all 64-bit"

17:18 <zombie67> Meaning, before those bits were not fully 64 bits

17:19 <MTughan> Hmm...

17:19 <zombie67> fyi, that was a quote from the Leopard page

17:20 <MTughan> Yeah.

17:20 <zombie67> read the bottom paragraph too

17:20 <zombie67> "In addition to the POSIX and math libraries supported in Tiger, Leopard enables developers to build complete 64-bit applications using the Cocoa, Quartz, OpenGL, and X11 GUI frameworks. You can even use 64-bit Java on capable Intel processors. And the 64-bit and 32-bit versions of the libraries are built from exactly the same code base, to ensure a consistent experience for both developers and users."

17:21 <MTughan> So it was just CLI apps that could be 64-bit in Tiger?

17:21 <MTughan> True 64-bit anyway.

17:21 <zombie67> that is the way I read it, but I am no expert.

17:21 <MTughan> Yeah, neither am I.

17:22 <zombie67> Can't the 32 bit BOINC client run 64 bit apps?

17:22 <MTughan> No.

17:22 <MTughan> I don't think so anyway.

17:22 <zombie67> why not?

17:22 <zombie67> all boinc does is scheduling, right?

17:22 <MTughan> Yeah, but how are you running the 32-bit client if the OS is 64?

17:23 <zombie67> 64 bit OS runs 32 bit apps all the time.

17:24 <MTughan> Oh. You probably could then.

17:24 <zombie67> Tank_Master can you confirm?

17:24 <zombie67> brb

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17:26 <zombie67> back

17:27 <BadBarbarian> waaahooooooooooo its here

17:27 <BadBarbarian> ups is outside

17:27 <MTughan> 'lo BB

17:28 <zombie67> my 8-core 3.0ghz Mac Pro takes 9 minutes:

17:28 <Romulus> <$fq> (at

17:28 <zombie67> oops

17:28 <zombie67> correct url"

17:28 <Romulus> <$ft> (at

17:29 <MTughan> Nice.

17:29 <BadBarbarian> lo

17:29 <BadBarbarian> i am busy opening my box lol

17:29 <MTughan> That current version uses SSE and some other optimizations. SSE isn't needed though, so it'll be out in the next version.

17:30 <zombie67> Can SSE2, SSE3, or SSSE3 help?

17:30 <Tank_Master> sorry, was away, doing wier maitence

17:30 <MTughan> No, because TSP doesn't use floating point math.

17:31 <zombie67> dang.

17:31 <zombie67> so what kind of optimations can be used?

17:31 <MTughan> This version uses SSE and SSE2 anyway.

17:31 <MTughan> Right now, it's generic GCC optimizations and some GCC-chosen Intel specific opts.

17:32 <zombie67> does 64 bit help at all?

17:32 <Tank_Master> yes, any 64bit OS should be able to run its 32bit apps

17:32 <Tank_Master> yes

17:32 <MTughan> It might.

17:32 <Tank_Master> you have access to 2x the number of regesters, or places to stor numbers in the CPU

17:32 <MTughan> Whether I can compile 64-bit or not is another matter.

17:33 <Tank_Master> with int math, you *should* see a 2x increase in performace by switching to true 64bit

17:33 <MTughan> I assume Apple's GCC should be able to because Xcode can, supposedly. I'm on a 32-bit system.

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17:34 <MTughan> That's why I'm not sure if I can compile 64-bit, because this is a Core Duo, 32-bit.

17:35 <Tank_Master> might not, but I havent a clue how coding goes...

17:35 <MTughan> Where's Pov?

17:35 <zombie67> heh.  when in doubt....

17:36 <MTughan> He says that you can.

17:36 <MTughan> Just you won't be able to test it on your own system. :P

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17:43 <MTughan> brb

17:44 <BadBarbarian> wow wireless keyboard & mouse

17:53 <MTughan> I'm gonna have to busy myself later tonight with rebuilding my Makefiles, making it more centralized...

17:54 <MTughan> It's a bad system I have right now. It works, but it's a mess to add other platforms or update the source.

17:54 * CoderForLife stumbles in

17:54 <MTughan> 'lo CFL. Watch the doorstep.

17:54 <zombie67> grrrr.   download errors from TSP again...

17:54 <CoderForLife> it's hard with all these arrows sticking out of me

17:54 <MTughan> lol

17:55 <CoderForLife> you guessed it - another average day on the job

17:55 <MTughan> Nice...

17:55 <MTughan> So what do you do then?

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17:59 <Tank_Master> ill bbl

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18:28 <MTughan> And off to dinner...

18:28 <BadBarbarian> bye

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18:55 <PovAddict> &math calc (104 + 10) / 90

18:55 <Romulus> PovAddict: 1.26666666667

18:56 <PovAddict> yeas

18:56 <MTughan> ?

18:56 <PovAddict> it has to go through 104 tiles, and since it's 10 vectoids it's 114 from the first to show till the last disappears

18:57 <MTughan> Ah.

18:57 <PovAddict> and I calculated 90 seconds is what it takes on the official VectorTD for them to reach the target

18:57 <PovAddict> that means

18:57 <PovAddict> &math calc 90 * 25

18:57 <Romulus> PovAddict: 2250

18:57 <PovAddict> 2250 frames to render to do a 25fps animation

18:57 <MTughan> PAL.

18:58 <PovAddict> &math calc 90 * 20

18:58 <Romulus> PovAddict: 1800

18:58 <PovAddict> still high

18:58 <MTughan> NTSC is 29.97 fps.

18:58 <PovAddict> &echo I guess [math calc 90 * 29.97] is a lot of frames

18:58 <Romulus> I guess 2697.3 is a lot of frames

18:58 <MTughan> lol

18:58 <MTughan> You could probably go as low as 15fps.

18:58 <PovAddict> &math calc 20 * 15

18:58 <Romulus> PovAddict: 300

18:59 <MTughan> That's pushing it though.

18:59 <MTughan> You know we were discussing this in the other channel too, right?

18:59 <PovAddict> no math bot there :P

18:59 <PovAddict> -->

18:59 <MTughan> lol

19:02 <sethiroth66> puv

19:02 <PovAddict> :o

19:02 <PovAddict> /o\

19:02 <sethiroth66> :o

19:03 <MTughan> ???

19:03 <sethiroth66> ;_;

19:03 <sethiroth66> ASCII plz

19:03 <MTughan> >_>

19:03 <sethiroth66> thankyou

19:03 <PovAddict> whut

19:03 <sethiroth66> i'll ask again

19:03 <sethiroth66> you listened to VotLS yet?

19:03 <PovAddict> on it

19:04 <sethiroth66> any songs you like sofar?

19:07 <MTughan> Gah... Sis calls me down because she can't get the album artwork to a song on iTunes. >_>

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19:12 <Tank_Master> lol

19:26 <zombie67> Pov:  I notice activity on IMP, any impending work?

19:26 <MTughan> Oh yeah, I noticed forums are back up.

19:26 * Tank_Master misses his account

19:27 <MTughan> Although my language is now set to German...

19:27 <Tank_Master> im also getting md5 errors now from TSP

19:27 <zombie67> yeah, get a few of those md5 errors, and then it starts telling you there is no work available....

19:28 <Tank_Master> Ive been getting the no work all along

19:28 <zombie67> PovAddict:  I notice activity on IMP, any impending work?

19:28 <Tank_Master> after a few min more it there

19:28 <ELGono>

19:28 <Romulus> <$hf> (at

19:29 <zombie67> soooo, daily quota of 40 WUs.

19:29 <zombie67> and only 4 at any time.

19:29 <Tank_Master> who is the chick in the backround?

19:29 <Tank_Master> its 40 now?

19:29 <Tank_Master> yes, you can only have a max of 4 at any one time

19:29 <Tank_Master> I got none right now

19:30 <Tank_Master> thats not going to help my totals any ;)

19:30 <zombie67> Mon Nov 12 16:28:39 2007|traveling salesman problem|Message from server: (reached daily quota of 40 results)

19:30 <Tank_Master> ouch

19:30 <zombie67> It is probably 10/core, up to 4 cores.

19:30 <Tank_Master> no, he's doing it per host, at least the last time I asked

19:31 <Tank_Master> when it was 20 max

19:31 <zombie67> let me look at a dual core.

19:32 <Tank_Master> all of mine are now failing md5

19:33 <MTughan> Doh... So are mine.

19:33 * Tank_Master crys

19:33 <Tank_Master> :P

19:33 <zombie67> mine too

19:33 <MTughan> Just say no more work from it.

19:34 <MTughan> It'll let any WUs that downloaded successfully continue to work, but stop pressuring mweltin's Internet.

19:35 <zombie67> all my dual cores are saying "no work"

19:35 <zombie67> so I can't tell what they think the max is

19:35 <Tank_Master> oh boy, 130000 more MD5 errors to go!

19:35 <MTughan> lol

19:35 <zombie67> no, only 40 md5/day

19:35 <PovAddict> you mean workunits?

19:35 <Tank_Master> yep

19:35 <PovAddict> same thing

19:36 <MTughan> People were asking about IMPFarm too.

19:36 <Tank_Master> max of 10 errors each, 13,700 in the bank...

19:36 <PovAddict> well you know what we could render ;)

19:36 <MTughan> Hey... Yeah!

19:36 <Tank_Master> if I had and account

19:36 <zombie67> PovAddict:  I notice activity on IMP, any impending work?

19:36 <PovAddict> not really

19:36 <Tank_Master> lol, zombie is a broken record

19:36 <MTughan> He's got a render he's trying to do, why not stick it in the pipeline?

19:36 <zombie67> he was gone earlier

19:37 <zombie67> saving him from having to go back and read old stuff

19:37 <Tank_Master> hehe

19:37 <Tank_Master> rriigghhtt

19:37 <MTughan> Are you stuttering?

19:37 <Tank_Master> not me, my keyboard

19:37 <MTughan> lol

19:39 <PovAddict>

19:39 <Romulus> <$hr> (at

19:42 * MTughan whistles

19:42 <MTughan> That could be quite dangerous indeed...

19:42 <Tank_Master> yep

19:47 <Tank_Master> 11/12/2007 4:44:05 PM|traveling salesman problem|Message from server: (reached daily quota of 30 results)

19:47 <zombie67> Hmmm.  I just picked up an AstroPulse WU.

19:48 <Tank_Master> from SETI beta?

19:48 <zombie67> yeah

19:48 <Tank_Master> nice

19:48 <MTughan> No, I'm not joining another project!

19:48 <zombie67> 30?  You have a 3-core machine?

19:48 <MTughan> :)

19:48 <Tank_Master> LOL

19:48 <Tank_Master> dual

19:48 <MTughan> So 40 for a quad, and 30 for a dual?

19:48 <Tank_Master> its probably 40, with 10 bad MD5s

19:48 <zombie67> my guess is that you have had 10 md5

19:48 <PovAddict> gmta

19:48 <zombie67> heh

19:49 <Tank_Master> gmta?

19:49 <PovAddict> great minds think alike

19:49 <PovAddict> and you two too!

19:49 <Tank_Master> :P

19:50 <zombie67> "If all the girls who attended the Yale prom were laid end to end, I wouldn't be a bit surprised." -- Dorothy Parker

19:51 <Tank_Master> heard that one b4

19:52 <zombie67> I know.  I was inspired by your "two too" comment

19:52 <zombie67> bbl

19:52 <Tank_Master> hf

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21:07 <Tank_Master> wb z

21:08 <PovAddict>

21:09 <Tank_Master> that what you are rendering?

21:09 <PovAddict> yep

21:09 <PovAddict> from Tower Defense

21:10 <Tank_Master> isnt tower defence a shockwave game?

21:11 <MTughan> There is a version that is.

21:11 <PovAddict> that version is flash

21:11 <PovAddict>

21:11 <Romulus> Title: Tower Defence - Vector TD (at

21:12 <Tank_Master> flash, sock, same diff

21:12 <zombie67> brb

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21:12 <PovAddict> well, "shockwave" is usually how they call shockwave director, not shockwave flash

21:12 <PovAddict> diff diff

21:13 <Tank_Master> ahh

21:13 <Tank_Master> I interchange shock and flash cus its all the same in the end

21:14 <PovAddict> same shit different smell

21:14 <wdsmia> asks PovAddict to please watch there language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

21:14 <PovAddict> nice, he has an automated script now

21:14 <PovAddict> with grammar mistaeks too

21:14 <MTughan> wdsmia: Are you there?

21:15 * wdsmia asks the room to please watch there language Thanks, your friendly channel op

21:18 <wdsmia> ok that should fix it

21:18 <MTughan> You want a test?

21:18 <PovAddict> should I curse to test?

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21:18 <MTughan> It's the opportunity of a lifetime. xD

21:18 <PovAddict> it's z :o

21:19 <zombie67> back in black

21:19 <Tank_Master> wb

21:19 <MTughan> Hmm... Maybe he's the opportunity of a lifetime.

21:19 * MTughan blends zombie67 with a horrifying wand of blindness

21:19 <Tank_Master> nice shockwave

21:19 <wdsmia> if you want to test I have another script that needs testing :)

21:19 <Tank_Master> I avent played this version b4

21:19 <PovAddict> the kicker?

21:19 <zombie67> check this:

21:19 <Romulus> <$j6> (at

21:19 <wdsmia> with a twist lol

21:19 <zombie67> two empty slots in the right column

21:20 <MTughan> zombie67: Think you have enough projects?

21:20 <zombie67> I could understnd one empty slot

21:20 <PovAddict> looks like a bug

21:20 <PovAddict> ralph should be on the right

21:20 <zombie67> MT:  No!  In fact BS is missing several where I have credits.

21:20 <MTughan> ...

21:20 <MTughan> I think I have what, 8 projects?

21:21 <zombie67> PA:  exactly

21:21 <zombie67> Or...!

21:21 <MTughan> Yep, 8.

21:21 <zombie67> We all know Willy really does collect stats for projects that are not yet displayed

21:21 <PovAddict> AHAA!

21:21 <PovAddict> so if you have one or two projects not shown...

21:21 <zombie67> perhaps those slots are reserved in the graphic, but are missing

21:21 <zombie67> that is my guess

21:22 <zombie67> ..or a bug.  ;)

21:22 <PovAddict> calculation for rows shouldn't be taking those into account

21:22 <PovAddict> well, if it's counting hidden projects, *that* is a bug :)

21:22 <zombie67> I am guessing at least hydrogen

21:23 <Tank_Master> U do have credit in hydrogen

21:24 <Tank_Master> its the only project so far that I have credit in and BS isnt showing

21:24 <zombie67> yep

21:24 <zombie67> I also have gerasim, neural networks, IMP, cuming plan, belgian beer, sztaki test

21:25 <zombie67> heh, cunning plan

21:25 <PovAddict> you wasted CPU on cplan?

21:25 <zombie67> just 104 credits

21:25 <PovAddict> ah good

21:25 <zombie67> 3 digits.

21:25 <PovAddict> there's idiots with 100k on boinc alpha :-\

21:26 <PovAddict> 100k of crunching "uppercase", what a waste!

21:26 <zombie67> there is a bug with boinc alpha where Macs don't get credits, even though the results are valid

21:27 <Tank_Master> oh sush

21:28 <Tank_Master> well, I only got 10k there

21:28 <zombie67> I am targeting 4 digits (1k) for boinc alpha, then will stop.

21:28 <zombie67> need to go very slow, since the upload file size is HUGE.

21:29 <zombie67> brings my network to a crawl

21:29 <PovAddict> is it a problem for you if a project needs big download?

21:29 <zombie67> I have a RAC of 6.

21:29 <PovAddict> I was thinking on distributing optipng

21:29 <PovAddict> input: the png file

21:29 <zombie67> download is no problem

21:29 <PovAddict> runtime: not so long (a dialuper would definitely download slower than he computes)

21:29 <zombie67> 6 mageabit (byte?  whatever)

21:30 <PovAddict> output: four numbers :)

21:30 <MTughan> He uses that to optimize it himself.

21:31 <PovAddict> for example:

21:31 <PovAddict> input: 132204 bytes

21:31 <zombie67> Download can be huge.  upload needs to relatively small, or runtime very long.  That way if UL file is large, there aren't that many of them.

21:31 <PovAddict> runtime: 19 seconds

21:31 <PovAddict> upload: this bunch of numbers: zc = 9  zm = 8  zs = 0  f = 5

21:31 <MTughan> Well, I need to get back to my Makefiles...

21:31 <PovAddict> I could pack it in a four-byte upload file :)

21:32 <zombie67> that's pretty small..

21:32 <PovAddict> I know, that was as an example

21:32 * PovAddict looks for a bigger image

21:33 <PovAddict> ok this one has a higher ratio...

21:33 <PovAddict> bigger image (in pixels) but smaller file

21:33 <PovAddict> input: 76KB

21:33 <PovAddict> runtime: 23.4 seconds

21:33 <MTughan> output: 4b

21:35 <zombie67> brb

21:36 <zombie67> back

21:39 <Tank_Master> wb

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22:10 <Bads_quad> woohoo its running

22:10 <MTughan> BB?

22:12 <Bads_quad> yep

22:12 <MTughan> Sweet... Going to BOINC?

22:12 <PovAddict> :o quad

22:12 <Bads_quad> lol

22:12 <Bads_quad> team seti usa sorry

22:13 <Bads_quad>

22:13 <Romulus> <$ji> (at

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