IRC logs of #boinc for Wednesday, 2007-11-14

00:08 <Tank_Master> its dead in here now

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00:16 <Tank_Master> MTughan: you there?

00:16 * Tank_Master slaps MTughan around a bit with a large trout

00:17 * Tank_Master prods MTughan with a wet fish

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00:18 <Tank_Master> he's not budging, I dont think he is here

00:18 <Tank_Master> &cyborg bkac

00:18 <Romulus> Tank_Master: B.K.A.C.: Biomechanical Killing and Assassination Construct

00:19 <rsef2> mmmkay Tank

00:19 <Tank_Master> :P

00:20 <rsef2> hey all, i am trying to help the RieselSieve project compile for the mac/intel platform and when performing "make" i get the following

00:20 <Tank_Master> &cyborg Romulus

00:20 <Romulus> Tank_Master: R.O.M.U.L.U.S.: Robotic Operational Machine Used for Logical Utility and Sabotage

00:20 <rsef2> mac/QBacktrace.c: In function ‘IntelHandleLeaf’:

00:20 <rsef2> mac/QBacktrace.c:1571: error: ‘struct __darwin_x86_thread_state64’ has no member named ‘rip’

00:20 <rsef2> mac/QBacktrace.c:1572: error: ‘struct __darwin_x86_thread_state64’ has no member named ‘rsp’

00:20 <rsef2> mac/QBacktrace.c:1573: error: ‘struct __darwin_x86_thread_state64’ has no member named ‘rbp’

00:20 <rsef2> mac/QBacktrace.c:1576: error: ‘struct __darwin_i386_thread_state’ has no member named ‘eip’

00:20 <rsef2> mac/QBacktrace.c:1577: error: ‘struct __darwin_i386_thread_state’ has no member named ‘esp’

00:20 <rsef2> mac/QBacktrace.c:1578: error: ‘struct __darwin_i386_thread_state’ has no member named ‘ebp’

00:20 <PovAddict> DON'T PASTE

00:20 * PovAddict gets drowned in compiler errors coming from a chat window

00:21 <Tank_Master> hehe

00:21 * PovAddict dies drowned

00:21 <Tank_Master> hiya PA

00:21 <PovAddict>

00:22 <rsef2>

00:22 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at

00:23 <rsef2> that better?

00:23 <PovAddict> is that latest API code from BOINC SVN?

00:24 <rsef2> pulled like boinc and boinc_sample right?

00:24 <rsef2> forget the full URL

00:24 <rsef2> i can find it

00:24 <PovAddict> you definitely don't need boinc_sample...

00:25 <rsef2> svn co

00:25 <Romulus> Title: Revision 14189: /trunk/boinc (at

00:25 <rsef2> thats where i want

00:25 <rsef2> went

00:26 <PovAddict> then it looks like the latest code is broken :\

00:26 <PovAddict> what ./configure line did you use?

00:26 <PovAddict> if you only want to build a "science application", you need to compile only the API; so --disable-server --disable-client

00:28 <rsef2> disable server

00:28 <rsef2> per Bryan

00:29 <rsef2> i am sheeple

00:31 <rsef2> if anyone can figure this out please let me know...i will idle here and in rieselsieve channel

00:32 <rsef2> heading to bed now

00:32 <Tank_Master> gn

00:32 <rsef2> nite tank

00:32 <rsef2> good night romulus

00:33 <Tank_Master> rommie is a bot

00:33 <rsef2> i know

00:33 <Tank_Master> :P

00:33 <rsef2> but any good bot would respond back

00:33 <PovAddict> &cya

00:33 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: You need to have PySQLite installed to use this plugin.  Download it at <>

00:33 <PovAddict> &bye

00:33 <Romulus> later ace

00:34 <PovAddict> bah I always forget the aliases

00:34 <PovAddict> &nn rsef2

00:34 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

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03:44 <seth_col> hai gais

03:44 <seth_col> n gals

03:44 <seth_col> n bots

03:44 <mweltin> hey

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05:05 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

05:05 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 59.2F / 15.1C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.76in / 1007.7hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy with a 40 percent chance of showers. Highs in the mid 60s. West winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A slight chance of showers in the evening. Much cooler with lows in the mid 30s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph. (1 more message)

05:05 <CoderForLife> &more

05:05 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Chance of rain 20 percent.; Thursday - Partly sunny. Much cooler with highs in the mid 40s. Northwest winds 10 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph.;

05:10 <CoderForLife> brb  breakfast

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05:26 <CoderForLife> m ELGono

05:27 <ELGono> ahoi don

05:30 <CoderForLife> any snow yet for you?

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05:31 <CoderForLife> oops - time to start getting ready for w@#%

05:31 <CoderForLife> cya later

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07:25 <MTughan> And off to school with me...

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10:08 <BadBarbarian> morning

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10:08 <BadBarbarian> howdy zombie

10:09 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86046

10:09 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 34.9F / 1.6C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 23.74in / 803.8hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs 61 to 67. Light winds.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 24 to 34. Light winds.; Thursday - Partly cloudy. Highs 58 to 64. Light winds becoming south around 15 mph in the afternoon.;

10:10 <BadBarbarian> &weather island park id

10:10 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 18F / -8C | Humidity: 78% | Pressure: 30.61in / 1036hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs 30 to 38.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Colder. Lows 8 to 18.; Thursday - Mostly sunny. Not as cool. Highs 38 to 48.;

10:10 <BadBarbarian> brrr the home is cold

10:21 <Tank_Master_> yep

10:22 <BadBarbarian> i have almost got the quad the way i want it lol

10:23 <BadBarbarian> i did screw up the dvd and harddrive i made the hd the slave the case is so tight i didnt want to take the dvd out to look at  it

10:24 <BadBarbarian> i need to make the hd master slave present lol

10:27 <Tank_Master_> :P

11:06 <BadBarbarian> tank i found out i can switch from raid boot to ide boot in the bios so i can make a dual boot system with out all the hasale

11:07 <BadBarbarian> use the 320 ide for xp x64 and the raid for vista

11:07 <Romulus> Okay, S@H is kept up because they are full of holes.

11:09 <PovAddict> that's a quote for the future

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11:11 <BadBarbarian> lol

11:11 <BadBarbarian> morning pov

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11:14 <zombie67> better

11:15 <zombie67> looks like he is going to remove the daily limit on TSP

11:29 <PovAddict> 5.10.30 released for mac

11:32 <zombie67> *zzzzzz*

11:32 <BadBarbarian> lol

11:33 <zombie67> and I don't think I will ever be upgrading my linux client, since the new GUI doesn't work for my install.

11:39 <zombie67> looks like some good flame wars are starting up in DA's secret lettle google group.

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11:44 <BadBarbarian> zombie whats da's google group name

11:46 <zombie67>

11:46 <Romulus> <$xq> (at

11:46 <zombie67> bbl

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12:13 <TMatWork> &weather 97035

12:13 <Romulus> TMatWork: Temperature: 48.6F / 9.2C | Humidity: 41% | Pressure: 30.00in / 1015.8hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Highs 50 to 55. East wind 10 to 15 mph... except east wind 20 to 25 mph with gusts to 40 mph near The Gorge.; Tonight - Rain likely in the evening...then rain after midnight. Lows 40 to 50. South wind 15 to 20 mph.; Thursday - (1 more message)

12:13 <TMatWork> &more

12:13 <Romulus> TMatWork: Cloudy. Showers in the morning...then a chance of showers in the afternoon. Highs around 55. South wind 10 to 15 mph.;

12:13 <PriitM> &weather 1

12:13 <Romulus> PriitM: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

12:13 <PriitM> lol

12:13 <TMatWork> :P

12:14 <TMatWork> put in a real zip

12:14 <TMatWork> &weather 00001

12:14 <Romulus> TMatWork: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

12:14 <PriitM> &weather 13412

12:14 <TMatWork> &weather 00097

12:14 <Romulus> PriitM: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

12:14 <Romulus> TMatWork: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

12:14 <PriitM> that's my zip code

12:14 <PriitM> in estonia :o

12:14 <TMatWork> &weather 97035

12:14 <Romulus> TMatWork: Temperature: 48.6F / 9.2C | Humidity: 41% | Pressure: 30.00in / 1015.8hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Highs 50 to 55. East wind 10 to 15 mph... except east wind 20 to 25 mph with gusts to 40 mph near The Gorge.; Tonight - Rain likely in the evening...then rain after midnight. Lows 40 to 50. South wind 15 to 20 mph.; Thursday - (1 more message)

12:14 <TMatWork> huh

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12:14 <TMatWork> %more

12:15 <TMatWork> &more

12:15 <Romulus> TMatWork: Cloudy. Showers in the morning...then a chance of showers in the afternoon. Highs around 55. South wind 10 to 15 mph.;

12:15 <PriitM> i should move to the usa, so i could do half of the things by entering zip code :-p

12:15 <TMatWork> lol

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14:01 <Tank_Master_> quiet day today

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14:07 <sethiroth66> Tank_Master_ thinks its too quiete

14:07 <sethiroth66> EVERYONE PARTY

14:07 * Tank_Master_ doesnt do parties

14:08 * sethiroth66 points without emotion

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14:10 <sethiroth66> shame on you

14:10 <Tank_Master> ?

14:10 <sethiroth66> leaving

14:10 <sethiroth66> :'(

14:10 <Tank_Master> I didnt

14:10 <PovAddict> you did

14:10 <Tank_Master> I just changed my Nic

14:11 <sethiroth66> i think you lie

14:12 <Tank_Master> we all do

14:12 <Tank_Master> lie

14:12 <sethiroth66> [19:09] * Tank_Master_ ( Quit

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14:12 <sethiroth66> [19:10] <sethiroth66> shame on you

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14:12 <Tank_Master> dosent meen I left

14:12 <sethiroth66> DOES

14:13 <Tank_Master> not

14:13 <sethiroth66> otherwise wouldnt say you quit

14:13 <sethiroth66> and joined

14:13 <PovAddict> hmm

14:13 <sethiroth66> amrite?

14:13 <Tank_Master> it would on a ping timeout

14:13 <sethiroth66> did i just copypasta not so long ago?

14:13 <PovAddict> ForumCategory ---- ForumForum ---- ForumThread ---- ForumPost

14:14 <PovAddict> :o

14:14 <sethiroth66> wtf man?

14:14 <Tank_Master> forumforum?

14:14 <sethiroth66> and FF7:VotLS Rocks

14:14 <sethiroth66> a forums forum

14:14 <Tank_Master> isnt that redundent?

14:14 <sethiroth66> no

14:14 <sethiroth66> ITS AN INFINATE LOOP

14:15 <sethiroth66> goto start

14:15 <PovAddict> no, all forum-related objects have Forum at the beginning

14:15 <sethiroth66> ForumSex

14:15 <sethiroth66> ForumForRum

14:15 <sethiroth66> ok?

14:15 <sethiroth66> ok.

14:15 <freelarry> PovAddict just a note - don't try to use nix machine - when done with current work will be going off

14:16 <freelarry> also most machines will be placed up for sell

14:16 <sethiroth66> sale?

14:16 <freelarry> yup

14:16 <Tank_Master> o.O?

14:16 <sethiroth66> kay

14:16 * sethiroth66 pokes Tank_Master's o.O

14:16 <freelarry> wife and her priorities forcing major decision here

14:17 <Tank_Master> ouch

14:17 <sethiroth66> i thought you said wife and her ponies

14:17 <Tank_Master> cant take them to work?

14:17 <sethiroth66> ponies?

14:17 <freelarry> looks more like splits vill

14:17 <sethiroth66> doubt it

14:18 <freelarry> so everything will be going up for sale

14:18 <Tank_Master> hew meny systems?

14:24 <Tank_Master> is boincstats down?

14:24 <Tank_Master> huh, just being incredibly slow

14:28 <freelarry> yup tank 6 of 7

14:28 <freelarry> most furnature also

14:28 <PovAddict> :|

14:28 <Tank_Master> bumer, thats gonna hurt your RAC

14:28 <freelarry> house

14:28 <freelarry> have to go start looking for devorce attorney soon

14:28 * PovAddict makes note to self: don't get married

14:28 <Tank_Master> LOL

14:29 <PovAddict> I better don't ask what happened

14:29 <freelarry> no PovAddict just find one with values close to your own and one that doesn't believe distant relatives more important than her own kids and household

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14:30 <Tank_Master> just get in, have some fun, but pull out before they change their mind

14:30 <freelarry> don't have any kids by them for them to comeafter you for support

14:30 <freelarry> at least thats not a consideration for me

14:30 <Tank_Master> good

14:31 <freelarry> all the stepkids grown and on thier own and starting thier own families

14:31 <Tank_Master> :)

14:31 <Tank_Master> how long were u 2 together?

14:32 <freelarry> 21 yrs

14:32 <Tank_Master> wow

14:32 <Tank_Master> not bad

14:32 <freelarry> three strikes rule applies - very close to the 3rd we have to file bankruptcy discussion

14:33 <freelarry> thought i'ld never be hapy for a telemarketeer call but am for last night

14:33 <Tank_Master> :)

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14:45 <mweltin> zombie67: I increased the daily quota and max results so tsp should be working through the bad WU's faster now.

14:45 <mweltin> thanks for that suggestion.

14:47 <Tank_Master> not fast enough ;)

14:47 <Tank_Master> how high did you set it to?

14:47 <Tank_Master> I seem to noly be getting 24-28 before I hit my quota

14:47 <mweltin> 50

14:47 <mweltin> I just restared, may take a day.

14:48 <mweltin> Mac results are invalid a lot of the time.

14:48 <Tank_Master> not for me ;)

14:48 <mweltin> some valid ones sneak in but not many

14:48 <Tank_Master> I havent seen any of mine comair againce a MAC yet

14:48 <mweltin> I have only looked at 20 or so resluts carefully since the new validator.

14:48 <Tank_Master> just one againce a linux

14:49 <mweltin> I was shocked to see how many results are coming form win boxes.

14:49 <Tank_Master> the rest all have been windows 32/64boxen only

14:49 <mweltin> from that survey it seems like most boxes are windows.

14:49 <Tank_Master> all 6 that have been good ;)

14:49 <Tank_Master> how meny can we have at once?

14:50 <mweltin> I put up on the news that the new 2.08 app will be out friday.

14:50 <Tank_Master> cool

14:50 <mweltin> 50 a day and 50 at one time.

14:50 <Tank_Master> whats different with it?

14:51 <mweltin> I should be done with it tonight, WU status, and the output is also dumped to stdout that way I can see if my validator is really working correctly.

14:51 <Tank_Master> 11/14/2007 11:51:09 AM|traveling salesman problem|Scheduler request failed: couldn't connect to server

14:52 <mweltin> The validator is logging some data and it seems like its owrking fine, but I still found invalid results that I can't expalin.

14:52 <Tank_Master> nice, so mustly just error reporting?

14:52 <mweltin> mmmmmmmm

14:52 <mweltin> yes, oh and I wasn not calculating the path length correctly, but I didn't want to tell anyone.

14:52 <Tank_Master> hehe

14:52 <Tank_Master> np

14:52 <Tank_Master> 11/14/2007 11:52:34 AM|traveling salesman problem|Reason: no work from project

14:53 <mweltin> just ran bin/status and everythign is up

14:53 <mweltin> mmmmm

14:53 <mweltin> there should be  a ton of work.

14:53 <zombie67> Wed Nov 14 11:52:54 2007|traveling salesman problem|Message from server: (reached daily quota of 8 results)

14:53 <Tank_Master> the u/ler dosent seem to be keeping up with demand always

14:53 <mweltin> I just reset it.  I'll do it manually right now.

14:54 <Tank_Master> crap

14:54 <Tank_Master> BOINC manager just locked up on me

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14:55 <zombie67> let us know when you are done, and I'll try again

14:56 <Tank_Master> getting no work again :P

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14:57 <mweltin> ok done

14:58 * Tank_Master repedidly pressins the update button

14:58 <Tank_Master> got 5, all error

14:58 <Tank_Master> updateing

14:58 <Tank_Master> got 5, all error

14:58 <Tank_Master> updateing

14:59 <Tank_Master> got 1, error

14:59 <Tank_Master> updateing - no work forom project

15:00 <Tank_Master> hehe

15:00 <Tank_Master> im a pain, arent i?

15:01 <zombie67> working!

15:01 <Tank_Master> I bet your learning more than you thought you would

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15:01 <Tank_Master> you got some non-md5 errors?

15:01 <zombie67> all failed though

15:01 <Tank_Master> oh

15:01 <Tank_Master> same here

15:01 <Tank_Master> got 7 that time

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15:01 <zombie67> a couple of thoughts about BOINC forums

15:02 <zombie67> 1)  If they aren't good enough for the developers, perhaps they should be scrapped alltogether.

15:02 <zombie67> 2)  If google is so great, everything should be moved there immediately!

15:03 <mweltin> Tank_Master:  yes non md5 errors

15:03 <mweltin> some

15:03 <Saenger> but wait! weren't they developed by the developers?

15:03 <Saenger> wouldn't that mean the developers are not good?

15:03 <mweltin> lol

15:03 <zombie67> 2nd batch of 20 downloaded, all errors

15:04 <mweltin> I love the forum, keeps me on my toes

15:04 <Tank_Master> hehe

15:04 <Saenger> not talking about responsive project developers ;)

15:04 <Saenger> just the head honchos in berkeley

15:05 <zombie67> final 10 (of 50) dl, all md5.  Now on to the next machine!

15:05 <Tank_Master> im doing 2 at once right now :P

15:05 <mweltin> good so we are getting somehwere

15:05 <mweltin> maybe I should up that even higher.

15:06 <zombie67> 50/day * 50 TM machines, = 2500 cleared out/day

15:06 <zombie67> wanna go faster?

15:06 * Tank_Master slaps himslf

15:06 <mweltin> I was going to drop it from teh config file but I thought there may be some default

15:06 <Tank_Master> I got BOINCStudio

15:06 <Tank_Master> I can be updating most of my comps in 1 click

15:06 <mweltin> yeah I'll up it another 50

15:06 <Tank_Master> cool

15:08 <mweltin> mmmmmm hey if I restart the project does the max_host_daily get reset from the config.xml file?

15:08 <zombie67> povaddict would need to answer that

15:08 <mweltin> ok

15:09 <mweltin> I reset max daily in both mysql and config so all should be well.

15:09 <Tank_Master> 11/14/2007 12:06:29 PM|traveling salesman problem|Message from server: Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance

15:10 <zombie67> my mac just got 8 good ones!

15:10 <mweltin> thats BS

15:10 <Tank_Master> lol

15:10 <mweltin> status says all is well.

15:10 <Tank_Master> I probably caught it when you were making changes

15:11 <Tank_Master> no work...

15:11 <Tank_Master> your uploader can keep up with my comps

15:11 <Tank_Master> :P

15:12 <mweltin> once this project leaves beta land I'm going to try to learn about the feeder.

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15:12 <mweltin> its still a mystery to me.

15:13 <mweltin> I'm going to seriously look at a alternate host as well.

15:13 <PovAddict> why don't you just abort the bad ones -_-

15:13 <Tank_Master> hehe

15:14 <PovAddict> it's sending me two at a time

15:14 <mweltin> great idea PovAddict why didn't I think of that.

15:14 * mweltin wonders if I can send all bad ones to PovAddict


15:14 <Tank_Master> yeah! do it!

15:14 <Tank_Master> Send them all to him!

15:14 <Tank_Master> :P

15:15 <mweltin> how to tell which ones are bad?  He said to up all the daily quota so we would work through them faster.

15:15 <mweltin> so thats what we are doing now.

15:15 <PovAddict> that was plan B

15:15 <Tank_Master> its probbly sending 2 at a time because someone keeps updating 40 comps every few seconds

15:16 <Tank_Master> oh, and that someone whould be me

15:16 <mweltin> Plan B was easy, I have to go to work today?!?!?

15:18 <mweltin> I have to make this my job somehow.

15:18 <PovAddict> yay, got 27 tasks

15:18 <PovAddict> *crashes them*

15:18 <Tank_Master> :)


15:18 <Tank_Master> nice

15:18 <PovAddict> 1 out of 26

15:19 <Tank_Master> man, you only went through 26?

15:19 <PovAddict> ?

15:19 <PovAddict> downloading another 28-WU batch

15:19 <PriitM> does it make me bad person when i take 25 WU per transfer? :>

15:19 <PovAddict> another good one!

15:19 <Tank_Master> I havent been able to get batches that large

15:20 <PovAddict> two more OMG

15:20 <PovAddict> I have a total of 4 successful downloads waiting to be crunched

15:21 <Tank_Master> I have about 15 betwrrn the 40 comps I can monitor at once

15:21 <zombie67> max # of errors = 10.....

15:21 <zombie67> does that mean 10 different people have to fail downloading a WU before is goes away?

15:21 <zombie67> does that really mean 14000 x 10 = 140,000?

15:22 <PovAddict> no...

15:22 <PovAddict> the 14000 is already counting the initial replicatoins

15:22 <zombie67> ititial replication = 5

15:22 <PovAddict> then 14000x2

15:22 <zombie67> ah

15:22 <zombie67> so really, we have 28k to burn through

15:23 <PovAddict> SERVER ABORT

15:23 <PovAddict> 14/11/2007 17:24:46|traveling salesman problem|Message from server: (reached daily quota of 62 results)

15:23 <Tank_Master> hehe

15:23 <zombie67> 28,000/100 = 280 machines

15:23 <PovAddict> increasing quota will not really help...

15:23 <PovAddict> since each error lowers it anyway

15:23 <zombie67> quota would need to be reset, every 100 WUs

15:24 <mweltin> que?

15:24 <yoyo[RKN]> quota increases if you returned some valid result

15:25 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: there is one valid result for each 30 invalid or so...

15:25 <yoyo[RKN]> ups

15:25 <PovAddict> I say ABORT

15:25 <zombie67> I assume a WU cannot go to the same machine twice.

15:25 <TMatWork> huh, I got some pirates work...

15:26 <zombie67> that means that our combined 70 machines will be able to take care of 7000 of the 28000

15:26 <yoyo[RKN]> a WU does not go to anywhere

15:26 <yoyo[RKN]> a result goes

15:26 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: w,etf

15:26 <zombie67> the balance of WUs will need to be cleared out by others

15:26 <zombie67> result is old term.  new term is taks

15:27 <zombie67> task

15:27 <mweltin> LOL

15:27 <PovAddict> that's the term for users, which is intentionally ambiguous...

15:27 <Romulus> Lotus Notes has been staying around 40 to choose :)

15:27 <mweltin> that is why it too me so long to find the NNW button

15:27 <mweltin> it was no new tasks

15:27 <PovAddict> XD

15:28 <mweltin> that is one of the things that threw me initially.  It wasn't clear unitl I got a email about the workunit life cycle.

15:28 <zombie67> result is also a horrible term

15:29 <PovAddict> uptime: 14 days

15:29 <Saenger> result is something finished

15:29 <PovAddict> there's windows updates waiting on the corner

15:29 <PovAddict> nothing important since I dont have IE7

15:29 <Saenger> result is a task done

15:29 <yoyo[RKN]> just rebooted

15:29 <zombie67> result should be after complete.  in BOINC terms, it means just a split copy of a WU, regardless of state

15:29 <PovAddict> "workunit instance"

15:30 <Saenger> wui

15:30 <yoyo[RKN]> uiuiui

15:30 <Saenger> samson?

15:32 <Tank_Master> down to 13,600 remaining

15:33 <zombie67> getting "no work" again

15:33 <Tank_Master> just wate a min

15:33 <Tank_Master> he cant keep up with all of us

15:34 * Tank_Master will brb, gonna cook up some hotdogs for lunch

15:39 <Tank_Master> I now have 9 running and 14 pending TSP WUs

15:41 <mweltin> so are MTughn and crunch3r going to be aroudn tomorrow?

15:41 <BadBarbarian> woohoo mage the 200.000 mark in credits

15:41 <BadBarbarian> made

15:42 <mweltin> I'm goign to finish the new app today.

15:42 <mweltin> and with luck I can get one of them to build a mac app tomorrow.

15:42 <mweltin> I have MSVS 2005 so I should be able to bulid at least one win app.

15:42 <Tank_Master> lol

15:42 <Tank_Master> gl ;)

15:42 <mweltin> thanks

15:43 <mweltin> ls

15:43 <Tank_Master> id say to hf to, but its coding...

15:43 <mweltin> hf?

15:43 <Tank_Master> have fun

15:44 <mweltin> that part of coding  I like.

15:44 <Tank_Master> dant you game?

15:44 <Tank_Master> ahh

15:44 <mweltin> building on platforms I know nothing about I don't like.

15:45 <Tank_Master> not supprized

15:46 <mweltin> ok, I'm running test of the 2.08 app now, and I hvae to get ready for work.

15:46 <mweltin> I'll chat later tonight

15:46 <Tank_Master> ok

15:46 <Tank_Master> tc

15:46 <mweltin> bye, and as always thanks!

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15:47 <Tank_Master> doesnt he know what ideling is?

15:47 <Tank_Master> :)

15:48 <Tank_Master> 13,725 to go

15:51 <Tank_Master> zombie:

15:51 <Tank_Master> r u still wunning MW?

15:51 <Tank_Master> running*

15:51 <Romulus> no problem for many users on LHC@Home waiting to run.

15:52 <Tank_Master> I wasnt talking to you, rommie

15:58 <zombie67> back

15:59 <zombie67> MW?  yes, small share until I finish off a couple projects

15:59 <Tank_Master> Ive been getting lots og bad WUs

15:59 <Tank_Master> u?

15:59 <zombie67> with pop-ups?  yes

15:59 <zombie67> very annoying

15:59 <Tank_Master> they run for about 2 min and stop with a comput error

15:59 <Tank_Master> same here

15:59 <zombie67> causes the whole core/thread to sit idle until you nodice and dismiss

16:00 <Tank_Master> yeah

16:02 <zombie67> at least with macs, there is no pop-up when they fail.

16:07 <PovAddict> ohh nice

16:08 <PovAddict> the problem with Firefox memory usage was tracked down to fragmentation

16:17 <zombie67> as in fragment grenade?

16:18 <PovAddict> Firefox's memory getting fragmented in the same way a Windows filesystem does

16:29 <Tank_Master> whered u read that?

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16:49 <Tank_Master> 11/14/2007 1:47:08 PM|traveling salesman problem|Message from server: (reached daily quota of 96 results)

16:50 <Romulus> Well, two Windows links. One for GnuWin32, and the senior survival rate has improved

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16:52 <BadBarbarian> tank you here

16:52 <Tank_Master> no

16:52 <BadBarbarian> i go a wierd message from boinc

16:52 <BadBarbarian> 11/14/2007 2:51:08 PM|SETI@home|Message from server: Resent lost result 13fe07aa.18976.25021.8.5.179_2

16:52 <PovAddict> your fault

16:53 <Tank_Master> huh

16:53 <Tank_Master> Pov knows what it meens ;)

16:53 <Tank_Master> basicly in the server logs it sent the WU to you, but according to the client logs, it had not

16:53 <Tank_Master> so it resent the WU

16:53 <BadBarbarian> lol

16:59 <Tank_Master> im outa here

16:59 <PovAddict> kthxbye

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17:02 <CoderForLife> plink

17:04 <freelarry> well life insurance payments stopped and company notified to send cashout paperwork

17:05 * freelarry starts looking around for what needs to go to dump and goodwill so can start process of selling house

17:05 * freelarry checking yellowpages for good devorce attorney

17:06 <CoderForLife> change-of-life coming on?

17:06 * PovAddict better doesn't ask what happened

17:07 <CoderForLife> bad day at w@#%?

17:07 <zombie67> cosmo site back up

17:08 <zombie67> still no ul/dl yet

17:08 <CoderForLife> freelarry is going to go rendezvous with the cosmo site?

17:08 <CoderForLife> need $5 in change and a new set of sneakers

17:17 <freelarry> big time CoderForLife

17:18 <freelarry> wifey just got third strike and no change in game plan

17:19 <freelarry> same lam excuses and solutions

17:19 <PovAddict> game plan?

17:20 <PovAddict>

17:20 <freelarry> her solutions and plans for afterwards - just a saying

17:20 <freelarry> referencing baseball game

17:26 <freelarry> did finally get answer back from isp -  only one modem needed for 4 ip's or more unless increase in bandwidth needed then more modems and seperate accounts

17:27 <freelarry> but that will now go way on the back burner

17:30 * CoderForLife scratches his head, trying to figure out how literally to take freelarry

17:31 <freelarry> very

17:32 <freelarry> unless wife comes up with a different solution

17:32 <CoderForLife> she's not going someplace after a baseball game?

17:32 <freelarry> lots of plans had to change after telemarketer call from mortage company last night

17:33 <freelarry> credit check showed she well on way to force another bankruptcy and her credit score so poor its keeping her out of jobs she is appling for

17:33 <CoderForLife> ah

17:33 <CoderForLife> gambling?

17:34 <CoderForLife> nm - probably shouldn't ask

17:34 <CoderForLife> sorry to hear about your troubles

17:34 <freelarry> that and sending to "poor starving relatives in philippnes" dispite the fact her kids here are having thier own troubles she could help with

17:35 <freelarry> so she then tries to shame them into loaning her more money too

17:35 <CoderForLife> a heart bleeding green

17:35 <freelarry> but not her problem

17:36 <freelarry> refuses to learn from past errors and any help just enables her to go out and dig deeper

17:36 <freelarry> using slight variations on what got her cash before

17:37 <CoderForLife> sounds ungood

17:37 <freelarry> then hide the bills by sending to other mailing addresses

17:37 <CoderForLife> ah  very ungood

17:37 <freelarry> have reached my limit of tolerance

17:37 <CoderForLife> I see - no doubt

17:38 <CoderForLife> has there been any counseling?

17:45 <freelarry> she refuses

17:46 * freelarry still gathering the few items in house that mean anything to me and placing in this room

17:46 * PovAddict quietly walks away

17:47 * freelarry understands PovAddict doing so as hasn't lived enough to gain lifeexperience to deal with

17:48 <PovAddict> that plus the usual: IRC and productivity being opposites

17:51 <CoderForLife> I'm going to go do some things on the lappy - need an installation of PHP that supports XML DOM to do xquery

17:51 <PovAddict> PHP5 <3

17:51 <CoderForLife> doesn't seem to have DOM by defualt

17:51 <CoderForLife> on Windows

17:51 * wdsmia hates xml

17:51 <PovAddict> "There is no installation needed to use these functions; they are part of the PHP core."

17:52 <CoderForLife> my compile on LInux doesn't have it compiled in either

17:52 <PovAddict> it's definitely there on Windows; is the linux one self-built?

17:52 <CoderForLife> xquery complaininf about unknown functions opening xml doc as dom object

17:53 <CoderForLife> anyway, I'm going to install the latest PHP rev on 'doze and try again

17:53 <CoderForLife> and make doubly-sure about xml

17:54 <CoderForLife> sorry about your xml hating, Doug - unfortunately the rumor is that everything has to be XML now

17:54 <PovAddict> XML is like violence

17:54 <CoderForLife> anyway - downstairs to the laptop and wireless connection

17:54 <CoderForLife> laterzzzz

17:55 <wdsmia> redoing some 8000 entrys in about 80 xml files by hand at w@$%

17:55 <PovAddict> by hand? *that* is your problem

17:56 <wdsmia> dont I know it

18:13 <zombie67> hydrogen is in BAM!

18:16 <Tank_Master> cool

18:16 <Tank_Master> ill brb then

18:17 <Tank_Master> BS is sure taking its time...

18:17 <zombie67> sllllooooooow

18:17 <Tank_Master> in finding the account, defently

18:18 <Tank_Master> H dosent have a 64bit win app, dose it?

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18:22 <zombie67> i don't think so

18:22 <Tank_Master> k

18:22 <zombie67> but it's new server code, so it should send 32 bit app/work to 64 bit systems

18:23 <zombie67> without app_info.xml

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18:24 <MTughan> 'lo all

18:24 <zombie67> ugh....

18:24 <zombie67> my dog sleeps under my desk, and has the *worst* gas

18:24 <MTughan> Oh...

18:25 <zombie67> eye-bleeding, paint-peeling

18:25 <MTughan> My cat likes a box I brought home with me.

18:25 <zombie67> hydrogen is now in BAM

18:25 <zombie67> fti

18:25 <zombie67> fyi

18:26 <zombie67> I am guessing that is why my stats banner had un necessary spases in the right column.

18:27 <zombie67>

18:27 <Romulus> <$j6> (at

18:28 <zombie67> lots of HW problems at projects lately

18:28 <zombie67> not counting seti, of course.

18:28 <zombie67> cosmo, depspid sha-1

18:29 <zombie67> xtreme

18:31 <Tank_Master> probably

18:32 <MTughan> Tank_Master!

18:32 * MTughan hits Tank_Master with a damaged TV

18:32 <Tank_Master> haha, your ranked 181 ion renderfarm

18:32 <MTughan> xD

18:32 <MTughan> Who, me?

18:32 <Tank_Master> zombie

18:32 <MTughan> Not surprised at that.

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18:32 <Tank_Master> im ranked #1

18:32 <MTughan> Doug's gone! Party!

18:33 * Tank_Master dosent do parties

18:33 <MTughan> RenderFarm? You mean PovAddict's project?

18:33 <Tank_Master> yep

18:33 <MTughan> That's now IMPFarm?

18:33 <Tank_Master> thats been dead n deseased for quite some time

18:33 <Tank_Master> imp is a differnt project

18:34 <Tank_Master> I cant get an account for it

18:34 <MTughan> He's merged them, as I know.

18:34 <Tank_Master> noone seems to want to give me a key

18:34 <Tank_Master> not af far as the stats go

18:34 <MTughan> I'm a part of it, but I don't remember my key. :P

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18:34 <Tank_Master> crap

18:34 <MTughan> Not sure how PovAddict would feel about it anyway.

18:34 <Tank_Master> he's back

18:34 <MTughan> lol, party's off. :P

18:35 <Tank_Master> I asked him

18:35 <Tank_Master> he only said "have you seen the site lately?

18:35 <PovAddict> and it was down

18:35 <Tank_Master> Im like, so?  the code is still good when it comes back

18:36 <Tank_Master> sucks to, for I DID have an account

18:36 <MTughan> Nice... I'm #14 on IMP. Out of 38. :P

18:36 <PovAddict> guess zombie67's rank

18:36 <MTughan> 1.

18:36 <Tank_Master> then the db was reset and I found out a few hrs after reregistratin was closed

18:36 <MTughan> Anyway, dinner time for me. Bye for now.

18:36 <Tank_Master> life is so unkind sometimes :)

18:36 <Tank_Master> hiya pov\

18:37 <Tank_Master>

18:37 <Romulus> <> (at

18:38 <PovAddict> early bam adopter?

18:38 <Tank_Master> how'd u guess?

18:38 <Tank_Master> I do like my ID number

18:38 <Tank_Master> 123

18:38 <Tank_Master> I was in it during the beta faze

18:39 <Tank_Master> I still have one come with a bam host id in the 100s

18:39 <PovAddict> mine is 115, lower than you

18:39 <Tank_Master> comp*

18:39 <PovAddict> bwahahaha

18:39 <Tank_Master> nice

18:39 <PovAddict> >:)

18:39 <PovAddict> (:<

18:39 <Tank_Master> (-:

18:40 <Tank_Master> :

18:40 <zombie67> back

18:41 <Tank_Master> wb

18:42 <zombie67> on imp, I am #1 with 7509.  #2 has 1071......

18:43 <Tank_Master> hehe

18:43 <Tank_Master> nice

18:43 <Tank_Master> I generated over 40 in RF

18:43 <Tank_Master> was more than the #2 team up untill the last few weeks

18:45 <zombie67> pov said "If IMP@Home is kept as production, stats will start being exported at that moment, and obviously credits won't be reset during the test->production switch. Once stats sites add IMP, you'll get your credits on your cross-project total."

18:45 <zombie67> "If instead Renderfarm@Home comes back and IMP test is closed, I will add your IMP credits to your Renderfarm account (based on the email address). "

18:46 <Tank_Master> nice

18:46 <sethiroth66> PovAddict:

18:46 <Romulus> <> (at

18:46 <Tank_Master> sounds fair

18:46 <zombie67> so maybe RF will come back at some point

18:46 <sethiroth66> scroll cursor from left to right

18:46 <zombie67> then I can take #1 away from you.  ;)

18:46 <PovAddict> will it scream? :o

18:46 <Tank_Master> hehe

18:46 <sethiroth66> no

18:46 <PovAddict> better not

18:46 <Tank_Master> sweet

18:46 <PovAddict> needs moar frames

18:47 <Tank_Master> changes the time of day

18:47 <PovAddict> it has like

18:47 <PovAddict> 6 images

18:47 <Tank_Master> true

18:47 <PovAddict> lame

18:47 <sethiroth66> go pov

18:47 <sethiroth66> make 500

18:47 <sethiroth66> use imp

18:47 <Tank_Master> :P

18:47 <PovAddict> means modelling a WHOLE F*CKING CITY

18:47 <Tank_Master> its not detailed either

18:47 * PovAddict puts webcam on window

18:47 <Tank_Master> hehe

18:47 * sethiroth66 claps

18:47 * Tank_Master hopes it a hidef or better camera

18:47 <PovAddict> use real pix instead

18:47 * sethiroth66 goes to sleep

18:48 <Tank_Master> 12,775 TSP WUs to go

18:48 <Tank_Master> and ill bbl

19:00 <wdsmia> como got there web page back... servers still down

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19:12 <MTughan> zombie67: Running any Tiger systems? 10.4.11 is available.

19:13 <zombie67> all my macs are tiger

19:15 <zombie67> did you install it?

19:15 <zombie67> any issues?

19:19 <zombie67> updating.  brb

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20:02 <zombie67> System Version:Mac OS X 10.4.11 (8S2167

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20:08 <zombie67> did someone say that non-windows machines were having problems vaqlidating?

20:08 <zombie67> for TSP?

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20:14 <zombie67> 2x saengers

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20:31 <Tank_Master> ib

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20:55 <PovAddict> rsef2: ping

20:58 <zombie67> cosmo is back up, including the work server

20:59 <wdsmia> not according to the server page

21:01 <wdsmia> ok now it is

21:01 <zombie67> now I can't upload

21:02 <zombie67> may be flakey for a while

21:02 <zombie67> everyone hammering it

21:03 <MTughan> zombie67: Sorry 'bout the delay. No, I haven't installed 10.4.11 yet. Just read about it on CNET just a few minutes before I messaged that it was available.

21:04 <MTughan> Contains final of Safari 3.

21:06 <zombie67> I am running it now

21:06 <Tank_Master> good so far?

21:06 <zombie67> no issues so far

21:06 <MTughan> Cool.

21:06 <Tank_Master> thats a +

21:06 <Tank_Master> my dinner is ready, so ill bbl

21:06 <MTughan> Bye.

21:06 <PovAddict> :O

21:06 <PovAddict> I opened my boinc manager

21:07 <PovAddict> I have craploads of correctly-downloaded tsp wus

21:07 <MTughan> What?

21:07 <PovAddict> ok, I got lots with invalid md5 too

21:07 <PovAddict> but those were reported without me noticing

21:07 <Romulus> Someday, I want to get usable 2D acceleration

21:08 <MTughan> First one I download, MD5. I'll keep trying.

21:08 <Tank_Master> same here

21:08 <Tank_Master> bout time ;)

21:08 <PovAddict> I think he increased quota

21:09 <PovAddict> says I reached quota limit of 136

21:09 <Tank_Master> over 100 now

21:09 <Tank_Master> hehe

21:09 <MTughan> Yeah, cause I hit my quote (2!) earlier today.

21:09 <MTughan> quota*

21:09 <MTughan> Definitely offering WUs now, even if they are failing.

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21:13 <MTughan> All MD5ing out right now.

21:13 <MTughan> Hehe... New verb. MD5ing :P

21:14 <MTughan> Linux VM is on the task now too.

21:14 <PovAddict> error is a verb too

21:14 <PovAddict> "to error out a workunit"

21:14 <MTughan> Nice.

21:14 <PovAddict> :P

21:14 <MTughan> I still like MD5ing better.

21:14 <PovAddict> how about splode

21:15 <MTughan> Hehe... *splode*

21:17 <PovAddict>

21:17 <Romulus> <> (at

21:17 <MTughan> lol on the outcome. :P

21:18 <MTughan> Did you actually run out of HD space?

21:18 <MTughan> Or BOINC did at leasy.

21:18 <PovAddict> no, the disk usage limit for the workunit was too low

21:18 <MTughan> least*

21:19 <PovAddict> refresh that page

21:19 <MTughan> Hehe...

21:19 <MTughan> Validate State: WRONG!

21:20 <MTughan> Not sure I'd keep the outcome text though. You never know who'd be browsing. Just two years ago or so, I'd be appalled at the language.

21:21 <PovAddict> few people browse the site; and I'd say none would be randomly looking at results now

21:22 <zombie67> true

21:27 <zombie67> brb

21:27 <Tank_Master> k

21:29 <zombie67> back

21:30 <zombie67> sztaki @ 92.6k

21:30 <zombie67> another day or two

21:30 <Romulus> very small percentage of folks I'd like it is a biggy too

21:44 <Tank_Master> very small percebtage of folks understands wtf rommie says

21:44 <MTughan> lol

21:46 <MTughan> Anyone know how to do a mass rename with mv? I have pictures from my camera that have .JPG as an extension, I want it as .jpg.

21:47 <MTughan> Or otherwise do it with the command-line, doesn't have to be mv.

21:47 <Tank_Master> thers a wasy to rename files in windows to like 0001.jpg, 002.jpg, ect

21:47 <MTughan> Mac.

21:48 <PovAddict> hold on

21:48 <Tank_Master> but I dont thing you can mas rename extectings w/o a script

21:48 <MTughan> Tank_Master: The way to do it is select all pictures, rename, and then type the basename. It'll auto-increment.

21:49 <Tank_Master> ahh, right

21:49 <Tank_Master> never done it, so I didnt remember

21:49 <MTughan> Never done it either. :P

21:49 <Tank_Master> :P

21:50 <PovAddict> try this: for f in *.JPG; do echo $f $(basename $f .JPG).jpg; done

21:51 <PovAddict> if it outputs what you want, replace echo with mv

21:52 <MTughan> PovAddict: Nope, outputs ".JPG.jpg" a bunch of times.

21:54 <PovAddict> type: basename someimage.JPG .JPG

21:54 <MTughan> Yeah, trying...

21:54 <PovAddict> should print someimage alone

21:54 <MTughan> That works...

21:54 <PovAddict> what shell are you using?

21:54 <MTughan> bash.

21:54 <Tank_Master> hurmet

21:55 <PovAddict> echo $(basename test.JPG .JPG)

21:55 <MTughan> I did a typo. :P

21:55 <PovAddict> ahaa!

21:55 <Tank_Master> buggers, arent they?

21:55 <PovAddict> /blame MTughan

21:55 <MTughan> Works now.

21:55 <MTughan> This is what I'm doing now, BTW. "for f in *.JPG; do echo $f `basename $f .JPG`.jpg; done"

21:55 <MTughan> I had it as $i. :P

21:57 <PovAddict> $(foo) is recommended over `foo`

21:57 <PovAddict> `command`, $(command): Command substitution (The latter form is *highly* preferred). Command substitution executes the command inside the substitution form first, and replaces itself by that command's output.

21:57 <MTughan> Hmm... Why is it preferred?

21:57 <PovAddict> and later on:

21:57 <PovAddict> "It's also time you forgot about `.  It isn't consistent with the syntax of Expansion and is terribly hard to nest without a dose of painkillers.  Use $() instead."

21:57 <MTughan> Meh. It works.

21:58 <PovAddict> terribly hard to nest?

21:58 <PovAddict> I thought it was impossible to nest

21:58 <MTughan> Besides, the `` syntax is Perl-compatible.

21:59 <MTughan> So how do $(variable) in Makefiles work?

21:59 <MTughan> Well, the command it outputs.

21:59 <PovAddict> make is one thing, bash is another

21:59 <MTughan> The command it outputs goes to the same underlying system. Unless make uses a different shell.'

22:00 <PovAddict> $(variable) or the equivalent ${variable} is the only way to access variables in makefiles, it has nothing to do with executing programs

22:01 <MTughan> Huh... JPGs don't compress that easily.

22:01 <PovAddict> what are you using to compress them?

22:01 <MTughan> BZ2 and ZIP both too off 100KB over 13MB.

22:01 <MTughan> took*

22:01 <PovAddict> jpeg's are compressed with zlib internally

22:01 <PovAddict> so imagine you're gzipping a file twice

22:02 <MTughan> Yeah, not too much effect...

22:02 <PovAddict> so you want to compress jpegs losslessly?

22:02 <MTughan> So can JPGs be compressed more?

22:02 <MTughan> Preferably.

22:02 <PovAddict> sure they can, recompress at lower quality and watch filesize lower :P

22:03 <MTughan> Yeah... Any other way?

22:03 <PovAddict> packjpg

22:03 <MTughan> My guess is I'll need to get that. :P

22:03 <PovAddict>

22:03 <Romulus> <> (at

22:03 <PovAddict> aww crud

22:03 <PovAddict> no mac binary and no code

22:06 <MTughan> Found a bug in BOINC Manager... If you're scrolling the message window, and new text is added to the pane, it goes blank.

22:06 <PovAddict> weird

22:06 <PovAddict> on Windows, if new text is added, it scrolls to the bottom

22:06 <MTughan> Oh, and still MD5 errors for TSP.

22:06 <PovAddict> annoying

22:06 <MTughan> mweltin's not here...

22:07 *** MTughan is now known as mweltin

22:07 <mweltin> :P

22:07 *** mweltin is now known as MTughan

22:09 <zombie67> heh.  cunning plan is putting out work again

22:09 <PovAddict> I wish they would delete accounts after a test

22:10 <zombie67> isn't account creation the whole point of the project?

22:11 <PovAddict> used to be

22:11 <zombie67> what is its purpos now?

22:12 <PovAddict> well, if they sent work, they must be testing something else

22:12 <PovAddict> they have forums, I guess DA is testing some code

22:14 <PovAddict> someone wasted 3k credits

22:14 <PovAddict> wait, wtf

22:14 <PovAddict>

22:14 <Romulus> <> (at

22:14 <PovAddict> ah nvm, top HOSTS

22:15 <MTughan> WTF? What is ssh doing that is taking 15% CPU?

22:15 <PovAddict> encrypting traffic?

22:15 <MTughan> Oh, I see.. STFP download.

22:15 <PovAddict> maybe some compression too

22:15 <MTughan> Okay, what about the kernel doing 25% then?

22:16 <MTughan> Well, it's not going to tell me.

22:16 <zombie67> yoyo is 43rd

22:16 <zombie67> top host

22:17 <zombie67> brb

22:17 <PovAddict> QMC has some 80-hour workunits with deadline next year

22:17 <PovAddict> looks like 2 months deadline

22:18 <MTughan> Well, I'll hope that the kernel processing is also because of the download. BOINC is being sqeezed out to 120% of normal 180 or so %.

22:18 <MTughan> lol

22:21 <MTughan> &ping

22:21 <Romulus> pong

22:21 <MTughan> Just had to make sure I didn't have incredible lag like I've had sometimes.

22:22 <zombie67> seti has WUs going out into next year too

22:22 <Tank_Master> :)

22:22 <zombie67> so, zivis will be bringing on a new project in December

22:22 <MTughan> Well, it's mid-November.

22:27 <MTughan> Interesting...

22:27 <Romulus> Title: High-quality YouTube videos coming soon | Tech news blog - CNET (at

22:29 <zombie67> youtube cannot afford their current bandwidth....

22:31 <PovAddict> "Chen also confirmed that in YouTube's internal archive, all video is stored at the native resolution in which it was sent in. However, he said, a large portion of YouTube videos are pretty poor quality to begin with -- 320 x 240. Streaming them in high-quality mode isn't going to help much."

22:31 <PovAddict> the problem is that it's a total waste for a user to upload a 100MB video to have it shrinked by youtube, so the smart users don't upload such stuff

22:31 <Tank_Master> :)

22:31 <PovAddict> imageshack has a video upload service that requires you to install their toolbar

22:32 <PovAddict> the toolbar re-encodes the video to a flv with the right quality and uploads that

22:32 <PovAddict> less bandwidth usage for both, less CPU usage for them

22:32 <MTughan> Yeah, I size down my videos beforehand.

22:33 <zombie67> pov, will you give us warning before releasing any new work on IMP?

22:34 <PovAddict> I'd post on the RSS feed if there is work

22:34 * MTughan goes to get the RSS feed

22:34 <MTughan> Done.

22:34 * Tank_Master wonders if this mees he can finally get am imp account?

22:35 <zombie67> cool.

22:38 <Tank_Master> &ping

22:38 <Romulus> pong

22:39 <wdsmia> &ding

22:39 <Romulus> DONG!

22:39 <Tank_Master> hehe

22:39 <MTughan> What's the coffee one?

22:40 <PovAddict> &coffee

22:40 <Romulus> Here's your quad expresso!! BANG! Need an ambulance in 10 minutes?

22:40 <PovAddict> &list alias

22:40 <Romulus> PovAddict: #boinc, 8b, 8ball, add, annoybaconbits, answer, beer, bighello, bye, coffee, ding, donkeyscoffee, g2g, hello, jfgi, liberalcoffee, lock, mornin, nn, quiet, remove, sleep, social, syn, thanks, unlock, and yum

22:40 <MTughan> Thanks...

22:40 <MTughan> bighello?

22:40 <MTughan> &bighello

22:40 <Romulus> Hello BadBarbarian, benje, bryanUC_, Celelibi, cr00ked, deprecated, dimm0k, efc, ELGono, f0urtyfive, FauxFaux, FreeLarry, hawmps, Huntster, Lorvija, MacG_, Peter, quail, redeeman, Romulus, sirneo_linux, Soul_keeper, TheFons, thoren, uosiu, xcamel, and Zeeno

22:40 <MTughan> Ah...

22:40 <Tank_Master> lol

22:40 <MTughan> Gonna get flashed for that one?

22:40 <PovAddict> &alias remove annoybaconbits

22:40 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

22:41 <Tank_Master> &liberalcoffee

22:41 <Romulus> Here's your 2 joints and a latte....

22:41 <PovAddict> that one printed "M$" to annoy a user named baconbits

22:41 <MTughan> lol

22:41 <MTughan> &donkeyscoffee

22:41 <Romulus> Here's your coffee three or four lumps!! BANG!

22:41 <Tank_Master> &lock

22:41 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: The command "lock" is available in the Alias and MoobotFactoids plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "lock".

22:41 <quail> &larrycoffee

22:41 <Romulus> quail: Error: You need to have PySQLite installed to use this plugin.  Download it at <>

22:42 <MTughan> &alias lock

22:42 <Romulus> MTughan: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.

22:42 <MTughan> wdsmia?

22:42 <wdsmia> yes

22:42 <MTughan> What does lock do?

22:42 <PovAddict> &help alias lock

22:42 <Romulus> PovAddict: (alias lock <alias>) -- Locks an alias so that no one else can change it.

22:42 <zombie67> 93.2k + 6.4k pending sztaki

22:42 <MTughan> Oh, I see...

22:43 <PovAddict> and I think only xcamel is an admin there

22:43 <PovAddict> it's his bot

22:43 <PovAddict> bot permissions and chanserv permissions are obviously independent

22:43 <MTughan> Well, I tried. xcamel's not here anyway.

22:43 <quail> &weather ypad

22:43 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 77°F / 25°C | Humidity: 36% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h | Updated: 2:00 PM CST; Clear. High:86 F. / 30 C.; Clear. Low:60 F. / 16 C.; Clear. High:87 F. / 31 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:64 F. / 18 C.; Clear. High:91 F. / 33 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:64 F. / 18 C.;

22:43 <MTughan> &8b

22:43 <Romulus> MTughan: You're kidding, right?

22:43 <MTughan> &8ball

22:43 <Romulus> MTughan: The outlook is poor.

22:43 <MTughan> &8ball

22:43 <Romulus> MTughan: You know the answer better than I.

22:44 <MTughan> Okay...

22:44 <wdsmia> &weather 50265

22:44 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 40F / 4C | Humidity: 49% | Pressure: 30.14in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 24mph / 39km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Cloudy...windy. Low in the upper 20s. Northwest wind 25 to 30 mph decreasing to 15 to 20 mph after midnight.; Thursday - Mostly sunny. High in the upper 40s. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph.; Thursday Night - Partly cloudy. Low in the mid 20s. (1 more message)

22:44 <PovAddict> &8b should MTughan stop playing with the 8-ball?

22:44 <Romulus> PovAddict: The outlook is hazy, please ask again later.

22:44 <wdsmia> &more

22:44 <Romulus> wdsmia: Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph.;

22:44 <MTughan> lol

22:44 <PovAddict> &8b should MTughan stop playing with the 8-ball?

22:44 <Romulus> PovAddict: What are you asking me for?

22:44 <PovAddict> m3h

22:44 <Tank_Master> &8b

22:44 <Romulus> Tank_Master: It shall be.

22:44 <Tank_Master> &8b

22:44 <Romulus> Tank_Master: The answer is a resounding no.

22:44 <Tank_Master> doh!

22:44 <MTughan> Yay! ^^

22:44 <MTughan> &8ball

22:44 <Romulus> MTughan: Of course.

22:44 <Tank_Master> doh!

22:44 <Tank_Master> &8b

22:44 <Romulus> Tank_Master: No.

22:44 <PovAddict> &8b should I release imp work?

22:44 <Romulus> PovAddict: No clue.

22:45 <Tank_Master> LOL

22:45 <MTughan> &8b should PovAddict release IMP work?

22:45 <Romulus> MTughan: You're kidding, right?

22:45 <MTughan> Doh!

22:45 <wdsmia> &8ball will they ever learn how to use 8ball

22:45 <Romulus> wdsmia: No.

22:45 <Tank_Master> nice

22:45 <quail> &help games

22:45 <Romulus> quail: Error: There is no command "games".

22:45 <MTughan> lol Doug.

22:45 <quail> &help

22:45 <Romulus> quail: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.

22:46 <quail> &list

22:46 <Romulus> quail: Admin, Alias, Amazon, Anonymous, AutoMode, Babelfish, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Ctcp, Currency, CyborgName, Darcs, Dict, Dunno, Filter, Freenode, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Internet, Karma, Lart, Markov, Math, Memo, Misc, MoobotFactoids, News, NickCapture, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Postman, Praise, Protector, QuoteGrabs, RSS, Relay, Reply, RootWarner, Scheduler, Seen, Services, (1 more message)

22:46 <Tank_Master> &8ball  Will PovAddict give me an invite key got imp?

22:46 <Romulus> Tank_Master: It is so.

22:46 <quail> &more

22:46 <Romulus> quail: ShrinkUrl, Status, Stock, String, Success, Supybot, Tail, Time, URL, Unix, UrbanDict, User, Utilities, Weather, Web, WordStats, and Zipinfo

22:46 <quail> &list Games

22:46 <Romulus> quail: coin, dice, eightball, monologue, and roulette

22:47 <quail> &roulette MTughan

22:47 <Romulus> quail: (roulette [spin]) -- Fires the revolver. If the bullet was in the chamber, you're dead. Tell me to spin the chambers and I will.

22:47 <MTughan> Just &roulette

22:47 <MTughan> &roulette

22:47 <Romulus> MTughan: *click*

22:47 <quail> &roulette 5

22:47 <Romulus> quail: (roulette [spin]) -- Fires the revolver. If the bullet was in the chamber, you're dead. Tell me to spin the chambers and I will.

22:47 <quail> &roulette

22:47 <Romulus> quail: *click*

22:47 <MTughan> "spin" literally.

22:47 <quail> &roulette

22:47 <Romulus> quail: *click*

22:47 <MTughan> &roulette

22:47 <Romulus> MTughan: *click*

22:47 <quail> &roulette

22:47 <Romulus> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!

22:47 * Romulus reloads and spins the chambers.

22:47 <MTughan> &roulette

22:47 <Romulus> MTughan: *click*

22:48 <Tank_Master> hehe

22:48 <quail> &roulette

22:48 <Romulus> quail: *click*

22:48 <MTughan> &roulette

22:48 <Romulus> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!

22:48 * Romulus reloads and spins the chambers.

22:48 <quail> &roulette

22:48 <Romulus> quail: *click*

22:48 <MTughan> &roulette

22:48 <Romulus> MTughan: *click*

22:48 <quail> &roulette

22:48 <Romulus> quail: *click*

22:48 <MTughan> &roulette

22:48 <Romulus> MTughan: *click*

22:48 <quail> &roulette

22:48 <Romulus> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!

22:48 * Romulus reloads and spins the chambers.

22:48 <MTughan> &roulette

22:48 <Romulus> MTughan: *click*

22:48 <quail> &roulette

22:48 <Romulus> quail: *click*

22:48 <MTughan> &roulette

22:48 <Romulus> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!

22:48 * Romulus reloads and spins the chambers.

22:48 <Tank_Master> &beer

22:48 <Romulus> Here's your beer, Tank_Master... Now drink up before I slap you silly!

22:48 <quail> &roulette

22:48 <Romulus> quail: *click*

22:48 <MTughan> We're going to overload the history if we keep this up... :P

22:48 <MTughan> &roulette

22:48 <Romulus> MTughan: *click*

22:49 <PovAddict> /clear

22:49 <Tank_Master> my history is set to 30,000 lines

22:49 <MTughan> Why do you put a space there? Just use "/say /clear"

22:49 <MTughan> /clear

22:49 <PovAddict> test

22:49 <MTughan> Tank_Master: Can you read 30,000 lines of history?

22:49 <PovAddict> I thought this crap thing didn't have /say

22:50 <MTughan> I'd be surprised if an IRC client didn't have /say.

22:50 <Tank_Master> I do searches

22:51 <quail> *blah*

22:52 <Tank_Master> 11/14/2007 7:15:06 PM|traveling salesman problem|Reason: no work from project

22:52 <MTughan> :o

22:52 <MTughan> Same, but with daily quota.

22:52 <PovAddict> server status says 12k remaining

22:52 <MTughan> 68 results.

22:52 <PovAddict> mweltin: ABORT

22:52 <Tank_Master> I seem to do fine on my quota

22:53 <MTughan> Linux did 52.

22:53 <Tank_Master> how long should TSP take on a P3?

22:53 <quail> &8ball will I go for a smoke

22:53 <Romulus> quail: Yes!

22:53 <MTughan> lol quail.

22:53 <Tank_Master> :)

22:54 <MTughan> Rommie, don't encourage him. ;)

22:54 <quail> Thanks rommie I was going for one weather you said yes

22:54 <Tank_Master> &8ball Will TSP stop handing out bad WUs tonight?

22:54 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Yes!

22:54 <Tank_Master> sweet

22:54 <PovAddict> don't trust the bot

22:55 <Tank_Master> lol

22:55 <PovAddict> he lies >.>

22:55 <Tank_Master> O.O!

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23:02 <zombie67> hmmm

23:03 <Tank_Master> wb

23:10 <zombie67> brb

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23:47 <MTughan> Hmm... zombie's been gone for almost 30 minutes now.

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