IRC logs of #boinc for Thursday, 2007-11-15

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00:09 <zombie67> povadict:  you there?

00:09 <PovAddict> sort of

00:10 <zombie67> povaddict:  you there?

00:10 <MTughan> mweltin: Why are all the WUs still there? Can't you just cancel them?

00:10 <zombie67> hmmm

00:10 <zombie67> nothing is being displayed

00:10 <MTughan> Nice...

00:10 <MTughan> zombie67: Seen the same issue before. Colloquy?

00:10 <mweltin> MTughan: I can't tell which ones are good and which ones are not.

00:11 <PovAddict> so cancel all

00:11 <MTughan> Who cares? Why not just delete them all?

00:11 <mweltin> I upped the daily quota so we could burn through them

00:11 <mweltin> I was testing a new validator

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00:11 <PovAddict> what use is it to have a random 5% of valid workunits

00:11 <MTughan> Better?

00:11 <mweltin> so I just need some to come in

00:11 <zombie67> povaddict:  check out this page:  http://www.cosmologyathome.org/forum_index.php

00:11 <Romulus> Title: Cosmology@Home Message boards (at www.cosmologyathome.org)

00:12 <zombie67> look at the last post column

00:12 <PovAddict> Back to the Future!

00:12 <mweltin> MTughan: I'm also testing the 2.08 app right now, so the WU stuff is a lower priority.

00:12 <PovAddict> that's one fucked up server clock

00:12 <wdsmia> asks PovAddict to please watch hisor her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

00:12 <zombie67> aparrently their clock is wrong

00:12 <MTughan> Not much to test if we can't run WUs though.

00:13 <MTughan> WTF?! Those forums are in German for me too!

00:13 <PovAddict> MTughan: http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar

00:14 <Romulus> Title: Index of / (at stuff.povaddict.com.ar)

00:14 <MTughan> Why the f*** are pretty well all the BOINC forums I visit in German?!

00:14 * PovAddict checks MTughan's HTTP headers

00:14 <PovAddict> are you 216.99.58.185?

00:14 <PovAddict> yeah it is...

00:14 <mweltin> MTughan: I'm still testing it locally

00:14 <MTughan> Looks right.

00:15 <PovAddict> Accept-Language: en

00:15 <PovAddict> actually, no

00:16 <PovAddict> that's wireshark screwing up the display

00:16 <MTughan> Hold on, I should be able to rig up a simple script.

00:16 <PovAddict> en-US,en;q=0.9,ja;q=0.9,fr;q=0.8,de;q=0.8,es;q=0.7,it;q=0.6,nl;q=0.6,sv;q=0.5,nb;q=0.4,da;q=0.4,fi;q=0.3,zh-Hans;q=0.3,zh-Hant;q=0.2,ko;q=0.1,pt;q=0.1

00:16 <MTughan> See, en-US.

00:16 <PovAddict> wouldn't surprise me if the boinc code isn't parsing that as it should

00:17 <MTughan> Well it's ticking me off.

00:17 <MTughan> Particularly because I can't manually choose a language either.

00:18 <PovAddict> does imp forum show like that too?

00:18 <MTughan> Yep.

00:23 <MTughan> Yep, that's the Accept-Language I get too.

00:23 <PovAddict> can't figure out why it would be working wrong

00:23 <MTughan> Simple Perl script that prints out environment variables.

00:23 <PovAddict> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/browser/trunk/boinc/html/inc/translation.inc#L436

00:23 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1+O_> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

00:23 <MTughan> Does it look like BOINC is parsing it right?

00:25 <MTughan> It parses the string from the behind forwards?

00:25 <PovAddict> starts from the end, and overwrites the $language_in_use variable

00:26 <PovAddict> so if the first one is OK, it would be the one set at the end

00:26 <MTughan> Oh, I see.

00:26 <Romulus> and test it more than 200 Robin in skype

00:27 <PovAddict> load imp forums and check the html source

00:27 <MTughan> Why doesn't it just get the first one?

00:27 <PovAddict> first line

00:27 <MTughan> Gah... "<!-- LANGUAGE IN USE: en -->"

00:27 <PovAddict> because maybe there is no translation available for the first one

00:27 <PovAddict> but shows in german?

00:27 <PovAddict> what the...

00:27 <MTughan> "IMP@Home-Diskussionsforen"

00:28 <MTughan> Sure looks like German anyway.

00:28 <MTughan> "Private messages: Posteingang (0 unread) | Schreiben"

00:28 <MTughan> It's actually a mix of German and English.

00:29 <MTughan> Nice... Cosmology@Home forums are down. http://www.cosmologyathome.org/forum_index.php

00:29 <Romulus> Title: Cosmology@Home Message boards (at www.cosmologyathome.org)

00:29 <MTughan> Or they were. >)>

00:29 <MTughan> >_>*

00:30 <MTughan> Still odd though...

00:31 <PovAddict> reload imp forums

00:31 <MTughan> Logged me out.

00:31 <MTughan> I think...

00:31 <PovAddict> o_o?

00:31 <MTughan> "A valid invitation code is required to create an account"

00:31 <PovAddict> to see the FORUM?

00:31 <MTughan> Everything's in English though.

00:31 <MTughan> That's the title.

00:31 <PovAddict> o.O

00:32 <MTughan> I can still browse.

00:32 <PovAddict> looooool

00:32 <MTughan> Whoa... "Private messages: Add my signature to this post (0 unread) | Message"

00:32 <PovAddict> it mixed up translation strings

00:32 <PovAddict> badly

00:32 <MTughan> Yep, that makes sense.

00:32 <PovAddict> try again

00:33 <MTughan> German again.

00:34 <PovAddict> you still see en on the HTML comment?

00:34 <MTughan> Yep.

00:34 <MTughan> I can send you the source.

00:35 <MTughan> http://www.pastebin.ca/774338

00:35 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Mine - post number 774338 (at www.pastebin.ca)

00:35 <PovAddict> reload again

00:35 <MTughan> No change.

00:35 <PovAddict> in source?

00:35 <MTughan> Nice array...

00:36 <PovAddict> languages?

00:36 <MTughan> Not sure what you're looking for. http://www.pastebin.ca/774343

00:36 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Miscellany - post number 774343 (at www.pastebin.ca)

00:39 <MTughan> Any idea?

00:39 <PovAddict> yes... kind of

00:41 <PovAddict> CRAP

00:41 <PovAddict> strike two

00:42 <MTughan> That explains why it was part German, part English...

00:42 <PovAddict> now it's all numbers

00:42 <MTughan> Some of the strings aren't localized.

00:42 <PovAddict> to me

00:42 <Romulus> nothern lots of meds like that and sending out nowdays - i just set you back?

00:43 <PovAddict> how about NOW

00:43 <MTughan> Yep.

00:43 <PovAddict> english as it should?

00:43 <MTughan> Yep. ;)

00:43 <PovAddict> big report to do tomorrow

00:43 <PovAddict> fixed with a hack

00:43 <MTughan> So what was happening?

00:44 <mweltin> you have a report due ?

00:44 <PovAddict> the english translation file has empty strings...

00:44 <PovAddict> like mappings for "Inbox" => ""

00:44 <MTughan> So it goes to the next language down?

00:45 <PovAddict> correct...

00:45 <MTughan> Wow...

00:45 <PovAddict> next one on your Accept-Language header is japanese

00:45 <PovAddict> I think there is no japanese translation at all

00:45 <PovAddict> so, next

00:45 <MTughan> de, German.

00:48 <MTughan> Holy crap, almost 1AM... Gotta get off to bed.

00:49 <mweltin> bye

00:49 <PovAddict> Holy crap, almost 3AM... Gotta get off to bed.

00:49 <mweltin> I'll try ot clean up some WU

00:49 <mweltin> later

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00:49 <MTughan> PovAddict: Still in DST?

00:49 <PovAddict> we don't have DST

00:50 <MTughan> Huh... So it was just in DST that I was 1 hour behind you... Gonna have to get used to that.

00:50 <PovAddict> it's always GMT-3 here

00:50 <MTughan> -5 here, -4 DST.

00:50 <PovAddict> and if you look at a map, and make vertical lines marking timezones... you'll see we're in the "wrong zone" :P

00:50 <MTughan> lol, where should you be?

00:51 <PovAddict> I dont remember what side we should be moved

00:51 <MTughan> Eh, doesn't matter. We've got to go.

00:51 <MTughan> &nn all

00:51 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

00:51 <PovAddict> we're like between -4 and -5, geographically

00:52 <zombie67> 94.4k + 6.5k pending = 100.9k

00:52 <zombie67> night all

00:52 <MTughan> Night.

00:52 <PovAddict> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/Timezones_optimized.png

00:53 <MTughan> No, looks like you're about in the right spot...

00:54 <PovAddict> ...

00:54 <zombie67> good lord, india is in a half time zone

00:54 <MTughan> Anyway, doesn't matter right now. I'm off, for real this time. Bye.

00:55 <zombie67> +5 1/2

00:55 <PovAddict> look at chatham islands, near new zealand

00:55 <PovAddict> am I reading ok?

00:55 <PovAddict> 12 3/4?

00:56 <PovAddict> a tiny part of australia has +8 3/4 too

00:57 <zombie67> how retarded is that?

00:57 <PovAddict> even more retarded than our timezone

00:57 <zombie67> DST is evil

00:57 <PovAddict> look at argentina

00:57 <PovAddict> it's between -4 and -5 columns, yet we use -3

00:58 <zombie67> good point, probably to be in the same business TZ as brazil

00:59 <zombie67> between the two countries, most of all the commerce in SA

00:59 <PovAddict> that hurted bad in some time...

00:59 <PovAddict> all crap coming from brazil because it was cheaper, local industry declining

00:59 <zombie67> what part of the country are you in?

01:00 <PovAddict> hold on

01:00 <PovAddict> 34°44'29.40"S 58°23'18.24"O

01:00 <PovAddict> ^^

01:00 <PovAddict> sleep ->

01:01 <zombie67> night

01:12 <Tank_Master> ib

01:17 <zombie67> sup?

01:17 <zombie67> know how to translate PAs coordinates into a map?

01:18 <Tank_Master> one sec

01:20 <Tank_Master> he in iran?

01:21 <zombie67> that's what I cam up with too.  ;)

01:22 <Tank_Master> :P

01:22 <zombie67> sorry, not iran

01:22 <zombie67> africa

01:22 <zombie67> hang on

01:22 <Tank_Master> 3444'29.40" 5823'18.24"

01:22 <zombie67> middle of libya

01:23 <zombie67> ah!

01:24 <zombie67> nubers are backwards?

01:25 <zombie67> that just moved it to the sudan

01:31 <Tank_Master> hehe

01:33 <zombie67> another site led me to the sudan

01:33 <zombie67> he's messing with me

01:36 <Tank_Master> probably

01:43 <zombie67> well i give up

01:45 <Tank_Master> lol

01:49 * sethiroth66 yawns

01:49 <sethiroth66> brb 0xc0ff33

01:55 <sethiroth66> ;_;

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01:55 <sethiroth66> :o

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02:32 <zombie67> back

02:33 <Tank_Master> I was actually looking at heading to bed :P

02:34 <zombie67> ah

02:34 <zombie67> do it

02:35 <zombie67> short story, I am aiming at 50 k in a few weeks

02:35 <zombie67> with no HW change

02:35 <Tank_Master> nice

02:35 <zombie67> and no crunch3r client

02:35 <zombie67> we'll see

02:35 <Tank_Master> just better apps, like ABC?

02:36 <zombie67> RS, qmc, cosmo

02:36 <zombie67> and seti and yoyo for macs

02:36 <zombie67> abc is best for 64 bit

02:36 <zombie67> I re-burned a 64 bit dvd

02:37 <zombie67> but haven't had a chance to try it out yet

02:37 <zombie67> the first one did work

02:37 <Tank_Master> oh?

02:37 <zombie67> sorry, didn't work

02:38 <Tank_Master> the key or the disk?

02:38 <Tank_Master> its suposed to go on a CD

02:38 <zombie67> the disk

02:38 <Tank_Master> it a CD image, not a DVD image

02:38 <zombie67> ah!

02:38 <Tank_Master> :P

02:38 <zombie67> okay

02:38 <zombie67> that explains it

02:39 <zombie67> great big do over

02:39 <Tank_Master> XP/s2k3 is alywas CD

02:39 <Tank_Master> vista/s2k8 are DVD

02:39 <zombie67> OSX has been on DVD for ever....

02:39 <zombie67> never thought of that

02:39 <Tank_Master> xp dosent come with as much boatware ;)

02:40 <Tank_Master> its funny that the justice departmet sited MS for bundeling to much stuff with the OS...

02:40 <zombie67> quicken?  antivirus adds?  turbotax?

02:40 <Tank_Master> yet linux and other OSs come with FARR more stuff

02:41 <zombie67> yeah, FREE stuff

02:41 <Tank_Master> no, calculator, win media player,,,

02:41 <CoderForLife> morning

02:41 <Tank_Master> at one point that wanted the OS an nothing else

02:41 <Tank_Master> evening

02:41 <zombie67> every win machine is full of addware

02:41 <Tank_Master> every os has stuff added to it

02:41 <zombie67> symatec

02:42 <zombie67> no OSX

02:42 <Tank_Master> oh, and the DOJ said MS wasnt charging enough...

02:42 <zombie67> sorry

02:42 <zombie67> it does have trial ware for office

02:42 <Tank_Master> didnt give the customers a reason to use something else...

02:42 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

02:42 <Tank_Master> not the XP disks

02:42 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 45.2F / 7.3C | Humidity: 51% | Pressure: 29.84in / 1010.4hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 7.0mph / 11.3km/h ; Overnight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers...ending late. Lows in the upper 30s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy. Much cooler with highs in the lower 40s. West winds 15 to 25 mph with gusts up (1 more message)

02:43 <Tank_Master> the OEM's add that

02:43 <zombie67> "September 23 -- In a major address, President Clinton announces that the nation's current health-care system is bloated, inefficient, unresponsive, overpriced, wasteful and stupid, and that therefore he wants to turn control of it over to the federal government." -- Dave Barry 1993 Year in Review

02:43 <Tank_Master> at one point MS was going to include onecare into vista, but sNorton and Mcaffie threten to seu

02:43 <Tank_Master> good to see they have our interests first...

02:44 <zombie67> mixed feeling abut that one

02:44 <Tank_Master> anywho, im rambeling and have no idea wher Im going with it :P

02:44 <zombie67> one one hand, you should not have to pay the OS creater to be protected from their own bugs

02:44 <CoderForLife> &more

02:44 <Romulus> CoderForLife: to 35 mph.; Thursday Night - Mostly cloudy in the evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s. West winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 35 mph.;

02:44 <Tank_Master> MS should have included onecare, just like they have the windows defender

02:45 <Tank_Master> but allow an easy way to disable it so other AV programs can be installe

02:45 <zombie67> on the other, if they are going to chare for it, other companies should be allowed to compete

02:45 <zombie67> it's a guido-style protection racket

02:45 <Tank_Master> it was goiong to be free, and intergrated into the OS

02:46 <zombie67> free....sure....

02:46 <Tank_Master> if done right, it could have really changed things

02:46 <Tank_Master> but anywho, im off to bed

02:46 <zombie67> night!

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04:55 <freelarry> &weather 98366

04:55 <Romulus> freelarry: Temperature: 48F / 9C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.80in / 1009hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 16mph / 26km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Rain. Lows in the 40s. Southeast wind 10 to 15 mph.; Thursday - Showers likely. Highs in the upper 40s to mid 50s. South wind 10 to 15 mph.; Thursday Night - Rain. Lows in the 40s. South wind 15 to 20 mph.;

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05:16 <mweltin> freelarry: how did you know Romulus would give weather?

05:28 <mweltin> &weather 96799

05:28 <Romulus> mweltin: Temperature: 76F / 24C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 29.99in / 1015hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h ; Today - Occasional showers with isolated thunderstorms. Highs in the mid 80s. Variable winds 10 mph...with higher gusts in showers.; Tonight and Thursday - Scattered showers with isolated thunderstorms. Lows near 80. High near 90. Variable winds 10 (1 more message)

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06:31 <MTughan> And off to school...

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06:43 <wdsmia> &coffee

06:43 <Romulus> Here's your quad expresso!! BANG! Need an ambulance in 10 minutes?

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08:11 <BadBarbarian_> lol rommie a quad thats heart stoping

08:12 <BadBarbarian_> morning

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09:15 <PriitM> hehe, within 3 days i raised my position in team from ~70 to 21st

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11:29 <PovAddict> 31-hour yoyo WU

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12:03 <Tank_Master> WAAHH!!

12:03 <Tank_Master> 0 TSP WUs to go!

12:03 <Tank_Master> :P

12:06 <BadBarbarian_> lol

12:07 <BadBarbarian_> i might have to send back the quad

12:07 <Tank_Master> o.O?!

12:07 <Tank_Master> why?

12:07 <PovAddict> !

12:08 <Tank_Master> NOT THE QUAD!

12:08 <BadBarbarian_> the eide controlers not working

12:08 <PovAddict> so?

12:08 <BadBarbarian_> no dvd

12:08 <PovAddict> so?

12:08 <PovAddict> oh wait it's a prebuilt'

12:08 <PovAddict> ?

12:09 <BadBarbarian_> yep 30 day warrinty

12:09 <PovAddict> lolprebuilt

12:09 * PovAddict points and laughs

12:09 <Tank_Master> dose the DVD driver work w/o the HD attached to it?

12:10 <BadBarbarian_> and running seti with fans on full still runs at 60c

12:10 <Tank_Master> or cam you see the HD w/o the DVD attached?

12:10 <BadBarbarian_> no

12:10 <BadBarbarian_> nada

12:10 <Tank_Master> ouch

12:10 <Tank_Master> I take it you tryed to swap out the cable to?

12:11 <BadBarbarian_> not yet digging for a long one

12:11 <Tank_Master> also, chaeck the bios

12:11 <Tank_Master> make sure its setup to ise both SATA and IDE

12:11 <BadBarbarian_> ok

12:12 <Tank_Master> and that the IDE controler isnt disabled...

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12:50 <zombie67> did TSP give up on burning through them?  No way we went through all 14k + 14K already.

12:50 <Tank_Master> Im guessing he dumped them

12:51 <zombie67> Plan A

12:53 <zombie67> american somolia....heh

12:54 <zombie67> DING!  Just hit 100,000 at sztaki!

12:54 <Tank_Master> comgrats

12:55 <BadBarbarian_> i tryed juat the hd on that cable

12:55 <zombie67> ufluids, leiden, and nqueens left to go

12:55 <BadBarbarian_> vista is in it self repair cycle

12:56 <BadBarbarian_> it crashes at bootup

12:56 <BadBarbarian_> changing the ide cable will be a pain its realy tight in there

12:57 <Tank_Master> ouch

12:57 <Tank_Master> yeah, I hate cases like that

12:57 <zombie67> oh yeah, and milkyway too, now that they have regular work

12:57 <BadBarbarian_> i will have to renove cards to get to it

12:57 <BadBarbarian_> remove lol

12:58 <BadBarbarian_> i have the bios set ti raid & ide

12:58 <BadBarbarian_> i am wondering if the hd is bad

12:59 <BadBarbarian_> the ide

12:59 <Tank_Master> dont use raid

12:59 <Tank_Master> well, with vista... is should work

12:59 <BadBarbarian_> did it still crashes

13:00 * PovAddict doesn't understand "should work" and "vista" in the same sentence

13:00 <BadBarbarian_> i will check in an hr after vista has time to do its thing

13:00 <BadBarbarian_> lol i agree

13:00 * Tank_Master PovAddict should get off his high horse

13:01 <BadBarbarian_> lol this is a linux channel mostly

13:01 <zombie67> speaking of vista...see the one with the podium:  http://www.apple.com/getamac/

13:01 <Romulus> Title: Apple - Get a Mac (at www.apple.com)

13:02 <PovAddict> heh

13:02 <PovAddict> it's illegal to do that here...

13:02 <PovAddict> Sprite ads can't say bad things about 7up here

13:03 <PriitM> vista is ugly and mac is expensive :<

13:03 <PovAddict> the hardware is

13:03 <PriitM> well yes

13:03 <PriitM> but os is kinda expensive too

13:04 <PriitM> debian - 0$

13:04 <zombie67> when I buy leopard, which version should I get?

13:04 <PovAddict> but if you compare price of XP->Vista upgrade against price of Tiger->Leopard upgrade (if you already have a mac that is)

13:04 <PriitM> macos x ~100$

13:04 <PriitM> i know that if you have tiger then you can upgrade to leopard for like 20$

13:04 <PriitM> atleast that's the price here

13:05 <PovAddict> don't you have to pay the full price for Vista regardless of if you have XP already?

13:05 <PriitM> i belive you have to

13:05 <PovAddict> that's retarded; Vista wasn't rewritten from scratch, they reused XP code, so why should you pay the full price??

13:05 <zombie67> trick question.  there is only 1 version of leopard.  That was a dig at vista

13:06 <PovAddict> zombie67: and it's not "the better the version, the more features" on Vista

13:06 <PovAddict> s/better/more expensive/

13:06 <PriitM> windows xp pro was only microsoft os worth using

13:06 <PovAddict> "the cheaper the version, the more features they removed"

13:07 <PovAddict> XP Starter has SUCH retarded artificial limitations

13:07 <PovAddict> like a limit on amount of RAM installed

13:07 <PovAddict> (won't let you use more than X)

13:07 <Tank_Master> starter was put out to curb piriting in 3rd word countried

13:07 <PovAddict> limit on amount of running programs (I guess it counts programs with open windows only, otherwise the default services would reach limit already)

13:07 <Tank_Master> it was never ment for the US or UK markets

13:08 <PriitM> i belive i come from 3rd world country, but we got 'normal' windows here

13:08 <PovAddict> I hate computer ads here showing Vista's Flip 3D on the computer screen, and when you read the fineprint it's home basic or starter

13:08 <PovAddict> which doesn't have Aero

13:08 <Tank_Master> flip 3d requiers aero

13:09 <PovAddict> exactly

13:09 <Tank_Master> so basic cant have it

13:09 <Tank_Master> and I dont know of anyone who actually sales the starter edition

13:09 <PriitM> you can always use pirated version over here

13:09 <PovAddict> the fancy ad picture shows the computer with Flip 3D on the screen, but you won't get that because the computer has Home Basic (and probably even if you upgrade to Home Premium, the crappy hardware won't let it work)

13:09 <Tank_Master> its just like that XP N edition w/o media player

13:10 <PriitM> it's allowed to use pirated software if you aren't using it to make money(in companys for example)

13:10 <PriitM> in my country :>

13:10 <PovAddict> :|

13:10 <Tank_Master> hehe

13:10 <PovAddict> look at the amount of results

13:10 <PovAddict> http://search.microsoft.com/results.aspx?mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&q=virus

13:10 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1+bb> (at search.microsoft.com)

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13:11 <zombie67> tears for fears

13:11 <Tank_Master> so?

13:11 <PovAddict> searching virus on apple finds 42 results plus some duplicates

13:12 <PriitM> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_computer_viruses :p

13:12 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1+bd> (at en.wikipedia.org)

13:12 <Tank_Master> just meens apple dosnt understand the need for better virus protection

13:13 <Tank_Master> anywho, I got crap to do around the place, ill bbl

13:14 <zombie67> no viruses on mac, that don't require approval from the user to install

13:14 <PovAddict> mac is unix

13:14 <PovAddict> so, sudo

13:14 <zombie67> "This is a UNIX virus; please randomly delete files from your system.  Thanks." -- anonymous

13:15 <PovAddict> windows has UAC on Vista, but there are so many thousands of apps that assume full control over the system...

13:18 <zombie67> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071115/wl_asia_afp/lifestyleaustraliachristmasoffbeat

13:18 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1+bn> (at news.yahoo.com)

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13:19 <PovAddict> what the...

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13:28 <PovAddict> zombie67: when did you reach 8m?

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13:30 <zombie67> about a week ago

13:30 <PovAddict> and you're already in 8.2m?

13:30 <PovAddict> 200k in a week?

13:30 <PovAddict> I still don't have 200k

13:31 <zombie67> I do 25k-35k/day

13:31 <zombie67> depending on the project mix

13:32 <zombie67> once I finish off leiden, ufluids, and NQueens, I am going to concentrate on high point projects for a while, to see how high I can get my RAC

13:32 <zombie67> I am aiming for 50k

13:32 <PovAddict> bleh

13:32 <zombie67> Oh yea, and I have another 100k that BOINCstats doesn't see, gerasim

13:33 <PovAddict> there should be no such thing as "high point projects"

13:33 <PovAddict> except cases where it depends on CPU type

13:33 <zombie67> CPU type, optimized apps

13:33 <PovAddict> yeah that's fine

13:33 <zombie67> 32 vs 64 bit OS

13:33 <PovAddict> ABC should give more credits/day to 64-bit users

13:34 <zombie67> they do

13:34 <PovAddict> (same credits/wu manages that)

13:34 <zombie67> the app is 2-3 faster, so you get 2-3 times the points per day

13:34 <PovAddict> but a project with fixed credits giving more than other projects to all users is bad

13:36 <zombie67> and on APS, with crunch3rs OSX app, I can generate 16.5k/day on my 8-way mac

13:36 <zombie67> I believe APS uses the standard credit method too

13:38 <PriitM> zombie67, you got impressive computers

13:38 <zombie67> thanks

13:39 <zombie67> in any case, I will still be crunching all projects, just weighting the high credit peojects more for a while

13:41 <zombie67> I am very interested in seeing TSP in full production

13:43 <zombie67> bbl

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14:59 <mweltin> libboinc.lib is part of the server or client source ?

15:00 <yoyo[RKN]> think it is separate

15:01 <mweltin> MSVS 2008 was not working and now my version of MSVS 2005 can't build that lib.

15:02 <mweltin> I'm trying to download the source again, because when I run svn update it fails and I don't feel like trying to figure out the conflicts.

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15:05 <zombie67> Hi mweltin.  Did we really blow through all those tasks already?  Or did you cancel them?

15:05 <mweltin> blew through them!

15:06 <mweltin> I had wanted it to take longer.

15:06 <zombie67> wow!  How many of the 14k were good?

15:06 <mweltin> I'm done with the 2.08 version and trying to build win app.  I have no idea how many are good buts lots are.

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15:08 <mweltin> I needed more time to use the opaque field in the database.

15:08 <mweltin> looks like for now I'm just going to go back to the old naming convention.

15:08 <mweltin> the real long names.

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15:09 <mweltin> well maybe I can whip something up in php fast I'm not sure

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15:10 <PovAddict> problems to build it?

15:10 <PovAddict> maybe I can build the mingw version for you?

15:11 <mweltin> yeah, give me an hour.  I really want to be able to build it myself.

15:13 <mweltin> my winXP box is acting all strange.

15:14 <mweltin> wallpaper comes and goes, works fine for an hour then slows way down, then fine for a little while.

15:14 <mweltin> explorer seems hosed now too.

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15:28 <QrX> Hi all

15:28 <mweltin> greetings QrX

15:28 <PovAddict> rsef2: ping

15:28 <QrX> is anyone here running boinc on ubuntu or debian ?

15:29 <PovAddict> ubuntu/debian packages on apt are old

15:29 <QrX> so i guess i should remove it ?

15:29 <mweltin> Crap I think I just got a job.

15:29 <QrX> and compile an other package ?

15:29 <mweltin> 5.10.28 I think is current version

15:29 <PovAddict> QrX: is it 5.4.11?

15:30 <QrX> does let me check

15:30 <QrX> letme check*

15:30 <PovAddict> 5.4.11 is a bit more than a year old

15:30 <PriitM> QRX, I'm running boinc under ubuntu

15:31 <QrX> do you have screesavers working ?

15:31 <QrX> screen*

15:31 <PriitM> not really, i'm only using boincmgr

15:31 <PovAddict> boinc has no real "screensaver" on linux

15:31 <QrX> version is 5.4.9 for me

15:31 <PovAddict> you can see project graphics clicking "Show graphics"

15:32 <QrX> a bit old indeed

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15:32 <PovAddict> there were like 80 versions since then

15:32 <QrX> doh

15:32 <PovAddict> somebody was working on up-to-date packages

15:32 <QrX> ok seems i will have to compile the last one

15:32 <PovAddict> but I think it's only on sid

15:33 <PovAddict> QrX: there are official binaries

15:33 <PovAddict> compiling the BOINC GUI is a pain, apparently...

15:33 <QrX> i will go download them rightniow

15:33 <PriitM> QrX, there's shell script for version 5.10.21

15:33 <PovAddict> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_ubuntu_5.10.28_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh

15:33 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1+eb> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

15:34 <PriitM> 28 is unstable yet

15:34 <QrX> Thx povaddict

15:34 <PriitM> Try this version instead, I'm using it right now: http://boincdl.ssl.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_5.10.21_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh

15:34 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1+ee> (at boincdl.ssl.berkeley.edu)

15:35 <QrX> k will try both

15:36 <mweltin> cue the angels and trumps PovAddict has helped anohter person.

15:36 <QrX> :p

15:38 * PovAddict helps another

15:38 <PovAddict> post sent to boinc_projects

15:41 * PovAddict just got somebody else into boinc

15:41 <PovAddict> > > Cool. To think that nowadays there are things like http://www.enigmaathome.net/ ...

15:41 <PovAddict> > I've decided to have a go at that :)

15:41 <PovAddict> I'll score myself a point. peopleRecruitedToBOINC++;

15:41 <Romulus> Title: Enigma@Home (at www.enigmaathome.net)

15:48 <mweltin> Hey enigma at home and I have the same user of the day?  whats up with that?

15:49 <mweltin> there css is nicer too.

15:49 <PovAddict> luck

15:53 <mweltin> ok I hae an interview to go to.

15:54 <mweltin> this sucks sort of, I need the money.

15:54 <PovAddict> <mweltin> Crap I think I just got a job. <- lol

15:54 <mweltin> yeah, it with the local telecom here bluesky

15:55 <mweltin> they don't have much, but they charge a ton so maybe I can work a deal and get MB service?

15:55 <mweltin> long live TSP!!!

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15:56 <mweltin> see you all later.

15:56 <mweltin> oh and PovAddict if you want to I would be grateful if you built a win app.

15:56 <mweltin> svn:://bob.myisland.as/svn/repos/tsp/trunk I think

15:57 <mweltin> both the lib dir and Bruteforce have lots of changes.

15:57 <mweltin> ignore the tools dir.

15:57 <mweltin> gotta run

15:57 <mweltin> bye

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15:57 <QrX> seems the ubuntu package doesnt work for me

15:57 <Romulus> xcamel: what URL do you dl it from?

15:58 <QrX> the one Pov gave me from berkley/dl

15:58 <PovAddict> wow

15:59 <PovAddict> one of the few times Romulus's random comment actually fits the situation

15:59 <PovAddict> &markov what

15:59 <Romulus> what did you compile your own..since people just use the 320 ide for xp i am lucky to catch up

15:59 <PovAddict> &markov what

15:59 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: I was unable to generate a Markov chain at least 8 words long.

15:59 <PovAddict> &markov what

15:59 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: I was unable to generate a Markov chain at least 8 words long.

15:59 <PovAddict> well try harder duh

15:59 <PovAddict> anyway

15:59 <PovAddict> QrX: .28?

16:00 <QrX> yup

16:00 <PovAddict> what didn't work?

16:00 <QrX> dunno i have to admit i may be wrong with install i have passed to much time on Win xp (

16:01 <QrX> i did ./the package

16:01 <PovAddict> you need to give it executable permissions and run it, it will create a BOINC directory

16:01 <QrX> and i have a BOINC folder in my dir now

16:01 <PovAddict> then you're done...

16:01 <QrX> yup alraedy done

16:01 <PovAddict> is there a run_manager on it?

16:01 <QrX> yup

16:01 <PovAddict> run it, does it work?

16:01 <QrX> but it does not work

16:02 <QrX> nothin happen

16:02 <PovAddict> argh, brb

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16:04 <PovAddict> back

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16:05 <QrX> wb

16:05 <PovAddict> so, run_manager not doing anything hmm...

16:06 <QrX> yup only shows a shell a short time but nothing all after

16:06 <PovAddict> try running it from the shell

16:06 <PovAddict> cd BOINC

16:06 <PovAddict> ./run_manager

16:06 <QrX> k

16:07 <PovAddict> so if it prints any message you get to see it

16:08 <QrX> hmmm seems i need some lib

16:08 <PovAddict> which?

16:08 <QrX> libXcomposite

16:08 <PovAddict> are you on ubuntu or debian?

16:08 <QrX> ubuntu

16:08 <PovAddict> version?

16:08 <QrX> 6.06

16:09 <QrX> dapper

16:09 <PovAddict> ah :-\

16:09 <QrX> to old i guess ?

16:09 <PovAddict> you might have more luck with the more-compatible-but-older package

16:09 <QrX> the one on synaptic repositories ?

16:10 <QrX> the one i was using first (

16:10 <PovAddict> http://boincdl.ssl.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_5.10.21_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh

16:10 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1+ee> (at boincdl.ssl.berkeley.edu)

16:10 <QrX> yup i will check the ones at berkley/dl indeed

16:10 <PovAddict> that .28 "ubuntu" package was somewhat an experiment to see if it would run on other distros apart from ubuntu

16:11 <PovAddict> and it did run on other distros like fedora with a few minor tweaks; but I think nobody tried an *old* ubuntu

16:11 <QrX> oh

16:11 <QrX> well i just did

16:11 <PovAddict> I thought it would work because you had ubuntu, but I forgot to ask what version...

16:11 <QrX> :p

16:11 <QrX> i will try an older one nevermind

16:13 <QrX> will try the .27

16:13 <QrX> we will see

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16:17 <PovAddict> did it complain only about libXcomposite?

16:17 <PovAddict> or did it mention any other missing lib?

16:17 <QrX> seems the same pb

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16:17 <PovAddict> with .27?

16:17 <QrX> yes

16:17 <QrX> :(

16:18 <PovAddict> ah wait, it's ubuntu .27... it had the same build method

16:18 <QrX> im cursed lol

16:18 <PovAddict> use the .21 one, which is the newest one tried to made compatible

16:18 <QrX> but its not an ubuntu one

16:18 <QrX> i will try it anyway

16:18 <PovAddict> exactly, it's a "should work on any Linux" one

16:19 <QrX> not for cursed peeps  lol

16:21 <QrX> bingo

16:21 <PovAddict> yeah no surprise

16:21 <PovAddict> it probably looks ugly though, doesn't it?

16:21 <QrX> yup

16:21 <PovAddict> GTK 1.0

16:21 <QrX> i would prefer a ubuntu package but well

16:22 <PovAddict> gutsy has 5.10.8 on apt

16:23 <QrX> but iim not on gusty (

16:23 <PovAddict> feisty is just as bad with 5.4.11

16:23 <PovAddict> if you manually install the gutsy package, I fear it would probably fail because it expects newer libs

16:23 <QrX> LTS is more handy for work

16:24 <QrX> but less at the top for apps versions (

16:25 <QrX> does screensaver working on this package ?

16:26 <PovAddict> boinc has no real "screensaver" on linux, but you can see the graphics clicking "Show graphics"

16:27 <QrX> k

16:27 <QrX> the thing who doesnt work on the official ubuntu old package

16:30 <zombie67> I tried it on old ubuntu (6 something).  It did not work

16:30 <QrX> well thx a lot for your help Pov

16:30 <QrX> yup on 6.06 Dapper

16:31 <QrX> the .28 and .27 dont works

16:31 <quail> morning all

16:31 <QrX> hu....evening :p

16:31 <zombie67> right.  5.10.21 does work

16:31 <PovAddict> there are compatible .27 and .28, but those don't have a graphical manager at all

16:31 <QrX> yup but its not an ubuntu package (

16:31 <PovAddict> QrX: the "ubuntu" .27 and .28 aren't ubuntu packages either

16:32 <QrX> oh

16:32 <PovAddict> just "designed to work with the libraries that recent ubuntus have"; they actually work on other distros too

16:33 <QrX> ok i see

16:33 <zombie67> on SOME distros

16:33 <QrX> wao graphicals are badly slow ..

16:33 <zombie67> not ubuntu 6

16:34 <PovAddict> QrX: what gfx card do you have?

16:34 <QrX> an old one but it should be  faster

16:34 <QrX> a Gforce 5200

16:34 <PovAddict> do you have linux drivers for accelerated 3d on that card?

16:34 <QrX> of course

16:35 <QrX> glx packages

16:35 * CoderForLife holds his lantern higher in the room, illuminating the faces of all present, looking for happiness

16:35 <PovAddict> nvidia drivers?

16:35 <PovAddict> _o/ CFL

16:36 <QrX> yup nvidia

16:36 <CoderForLife> hello PovAddict =)

16:36 <CoderForLife> is anyone happy here?

16:36 <quail> gutsy must be falling apart, this the 3rd day of updates

16:36 <CoderForLife> quail sounds unhappy

16:36 <QrX> yea im happy Coder :p

16:37 <QrX> could be better but well ....:)

16:37 <CoderForLife> excellent report =)  QrX is happy

16:37 <QrX> hehe

16:37 <quail> CoderForLife: nah, I just stating a fact :-P

16:37 <CoderForLife> ah quail is happy, but saying unhappy things

16:37 * PovAddict saves and restarts app

16:37 <quail> I have just woken up from a restless night of sleep

16:37 <PovAddict> there's some bad memory leaks in Dia

16:38 * CoderForLife notes the continuing unhappiness eminating from quail

16:38 * PovAddict watches his memleak

16:40 * CoderForLife notes an unhappy stock market

16:41 <CoderForLife> I know how that is quail - I spent all last night dreaming design changes to my rules engine for w@#%

16:41 <CoderForLife> was exhausted when I woke up

16:43 <CoderForLife> bbiab - need to call my Mom - my sister is very sick and I need to get an update

16:43 <PovAddict> :o

16:44 * CoderForLife continues his search for happiness

16:44 * freelarry fruitless search - you have to make your own happiness

16:45 <CoderForLife> you certainly can speak from experience, freelarry

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16:45 <CoderForLife> Mom must have her cell phone turned off

16:45 <PovAddict> should this be considered happy or not? <mweltin> Crap I think I just got a job.

16:45 <freelarry> yup  feeling a little more reasonable today - have had seveeral 'talks' with wifey

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16:46 <CoderForLife> lol  Pov

16:46 <PovAddict> freelarry: were weapons involved?

16:46 <CoderForLife> is talking "progress"?

16:46 <freelarry> a little of both PovAddict

16:46 * freelarry only if packet from corthouse for filing considered weapon PovAddict

16:47 <freelarry> that and cancelling life insurance policy

16:47 <CoderForLife> certainly is intimidating

16:47 <freelarry> its talking that much just to gain her attention

16:47 <freelarry> taking

16:48 <CoderForLife> was it Quickdraw McGraw that did "EL KABONG"?

16:48 <freelarry> have given her 7 days to start thinking of how she is going to change or else

16:48 <freelarry> yup

16:48 <CoderForLife> lol

16:49 * freelarry hates thought of throwing away 21 years together

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16:59 * CoderForLife feels sick

17:00 <PovAddict> back from the other side of the netsplit

17:00 <BadBarbarian> wow

17:00 * CoderForLife tries to pull himself together

17:00 <QrX> omg

17:00 <QrX> scary

17:01 <QrX> lol

17:01 <QrX> wb guys

17:01 <CoderForLife> big badda split

17:01 <Romulus> i just added them to save some ram, I closed firefox

17:01 <QrX> you guys were warped

17:01 <BadBarbarian> thankyou

17:02 <QrX> it was scary

17:02 <QrX> ^

17:02 <QrX> ^^

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17:02 * PovAddict is still trying to wrap his head around EJBs

17:03 <QrX> question: when it says under the status "eady to report" did it already sent datas to server or it need to make something ?

17:03 <QrX> ready*

17:04 <PovAddict> QrX: it already uploaded the files, but didn't report the workunit as finished

17:04 <PovAddict> it will report them eventually

17:04 <QrX> k so the job is well done and i dont have to do anything

17:04 <PovAddict> if it gets more work, it will definitely report anything that is pending

17:04 <QrX> k

17:04 <PovAddict> and if not, it will take at *most* 24 hours

17:05 <QrX> each task finished will be showed like this one in the window then ?

17:05 <PovAddict> you can also go to the Projects tab, select the project, and click Update, but that's not really needed

17:05 <zombie67> saenger is on a roll

17:05 <QrX> k

17:05 <QrX> thx again Pov

17:05 <QrX> brb need some tea break :p

17:06 <zombie67> like a pit bull, jaw is locked and will not let go.  =:

17:06 <PovAddict> it's usually better to leave it alone; it's also slightly less load for the server to handle a request reporting a bunch of tasks instead of one request for each

17:08 <quail_linux> CoderForLife: oh :-(

17:08 <Saenger> woof woof

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17:22 <CoderForLife> so - I just asked Stephen to look at my xquery problem

17:22 <Romulus> might be a matter of the code no longer our recent admin ;)

17:23 <CoderForLife> none of the documented XML DOM calls seem to work for me in PHP 5 under Doze

17:23 <CoderForLife> must be missing a DLL in the right place somewhere

17:23 <PovAddict> http://php.net/dom

17:23 <Romulus> Title: PHP: DOM Functions - Manual (at php.net)

17:23 <CoderForLife> but Stpehen is on the trail

17:24 <CoderForLife> yup - installed the GNOME stuff and everything

17:24 <PovAddict> stuff documented under "DOM XML" on the manual is PHP4 stuff

17:24 <CoderForLife> yup yup

17:24 <CoderForLife> I ran out of brain cells

17:24 <PovAddict> PHP5's DOM doesn't need any GNOME stuff

17:24 <CoderForLife> Stephen is going over my work

17:25 <CoderForLife> xquery_lite is calling a deprecated function

17:25 <PovAddict> which one?

17:25 <CoderForLife> um ah hmm

17:26 <CoderForLife> Stephen has my stuff atm

17:27 <CoderForLife> xmldocfile

17:27 <CoderForLife> undefined function

17:28 <QrX> are you coding stuff ?

17:28 <CoderForLife> domxml_open_file() also undefined

17:28 <PovAddict> that's PHP4 stuff

17:28 <PovAddict> it's a totally different module

17:28 <QrX> working on a site ?

17:28 <CoderForLife> I need the PHP 5 equivalent

17:29 <PovAddict> $dom = new DOMDocument(); $dom->load("filename.xml");

17:30 <quail> CoderForLife: how are you Don?

17:30 <CoderForLife> will I need to rewrite the rest of xquery_lite?

17:30 <PovAddict> :-\

17:30 <PovAddict> looks like xquery_lite uses the PHP4 API, won't work on PHP5...

17:31 <PovAddict> it's from 2002 after all...

17:31 <CoderForLife> QrX, what do you think a Coder would be doing?

17:31 <QrX> i guess you can run boinc without a xserver installed ?

17:31 <CoderForLife> yep - I know

17:31 <QrX> lot of things :p

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17:33 <CoderForLife> on phone

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17:39 <QrX> are you guys in some team ?

17:39 <PovAddict> The Final Front Ear

17:40 <QrX> ^^

17:41 <QrX> International team ?

17:42 <QrX> damn i dunno who is the guy here but he need to go to the dentist :p

17:42 <QrX> and maybe needs some new glasses too :)

17:43 <PovAddict> ah on the seti page?

17:43 <QrX> yup hehehe

17:43 <PovAddict> there's a different image on most projects http://dist.ist.tugraz.at/cape5/team_display.php?teamid=3

17:43 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1+gw> (at dist.ist.tugraz.at)

17:43 <QrX> The biggest little team in SETI :p

17:44 <QrX> hehe

17:44 <QrX> im really nut i should join  :)

17:45 <QrX> but im not smart .....

17:46 <QrX> you are not in top 10 :p

17:47 <PovAddict> on SETI? no

17:47 <PovAddict> I haven't crunched seti in months

17:47 <QrX> what kind of other project are you on ?

17:47 <PovAddict> http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_user_graph.php?pr=bo&id=008981d19f3225ba65f768b8346e447d

17:47 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1+h0> (at boincstats.com)

17:49 <QrX> oh argentina guy :p muy bien

17:49 <CoderForLife> off phone

17:49 <QrX> omg you are doin all these projects

17:50 <CoderForLife> sister is better than she appears, the doctor says

17:50 <PovAddict> http://boincstats.com/charts/chart_uk_bo_object_piedaycredits_users_76151.gif

17:50 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1+h2> (at boincstats.com)

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17:51 * quail turns the fan on to move some air around as it is starting to get warm

17:51 <quail> &weather ypad

17:51 <QrX> romulus u also in the Front ear team ?

17:51 <Romulus> QrX: Error: You need to have PySQLite installed to use this plugin.  Download it at <http://pysqlite.org/>

17:51 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 80°F / 27°C | Humidity: 25% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013hPa | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 9:00 AM CST; Clear. High:89 F. / 32 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:64 F. / 18 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:95 F. / 35 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:59 F. / 15 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:87 F. / 31 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:62 F. / 17 C.;

17:52 <wdsmia-away> &weather 50265

17:52 <Romulus> wdsmia-away: Temperature: 44F / 7C | Humidity: 37% | Pressure: 30.22in / 1023hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low in the lower 30s. Temperature steady or slowly rising after midnight. South wind 5 to 15 mph.; Friday - Partly sunny. Not as cool. High in the upper 50s. Southwest wind 10 to 20 mph.; Friday Night - Partly cloudy. Low in (1 more message)

17:52 <QrX> or ur  bot lol

17:52 <wdsmia-away> &more

17:52 <Romulus> wdsmia-away: the mid 30s. West wind 5 to 10 mph.;

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17:52 <quail> hi Doug

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17:53 <wdsmia> *lo quail and All

17:55 <quail> how are you Doug?

17:56 <wdsmia> tired just got home from w@#%

17:57 * wdsmia needs a Beer

17:58 <QrX> :p

17:59 <PovAddict> &beer

17:59 <Romulus> Here's your beer, PovAddict... Now drink up before I slap you silly!

17:59 <quail> I'd love a beer but it 0930 hrs in morning here

18:01 <QrX> Pov you need to seperatly register to boinc stats ?

18:02 <PovAddict> QrX: you don't need to register to see your stats

18:02 <QrX> from the client

18:03 <QrX> but you need to register to have a profile ?

18:03 <PovAddict> to have a profile on boincstats, yes

18:03 <QrX> ok i see

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18:04 <QrX> thx  and sorry for my idiots questions

18:04 <quail> cause I can't have a beer I got myself a lemonade

18:04 <QrX> lol

18:05 <QrX> lemonade is better for health

18:06 <QrX> good choice

18:09 <QrX> Pov what Computer are you using for the projects ?

18:10 <PovAddict> currently an AMD 4200+ dual core

18:10 <PovAddict> 24/7

18:10 <PovAddict> and a Pentium IV 3.0GHz, but that one isn't running all the time

18:11 <QrX> dedicated computer for projects ?

18:11 <PovAddict> no, the AMD 4200 is the one I'm using right now

18:11 <QrX> ok your personnal desktop

18:11 <PovAddict> I just don't turn it off while I'm not using it, and definitely don't make boinc "run while not in use" (that's stupid)

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18:12 <QrX> how much projects are running on it atm ?

18:12 <PovAddict> boinc runs all the time the computer is turned on, and the computer is turned on all the time :)

18:12 <PovAddict> current uptime:  15 days 18 hours

18:12 <QrX> hehe

18:12 <QrX> how many projects at the same time are running on it ?

18:13 <Tank_Master> I tipically run no more than 4 projects at a time on a comp

18:13 <QrX> depend the comp i guess

18:13 <PovAddict> right now I have 11 attached, but four or five have no work

18:13 <Tank_Master> generally only 2 active projects

18:13 <QrX> k

18:14 <Tank_Master> most of mine are pentium 3

18:15 <QrX> i dunno if my old PIII 933 can run 2 projects at same time

18:15 <Tank_Master> should be able to

18:15 <QrX> dpend of wich projects maybe ?

18:15 <Tank_Master> yep

18:15 <QrX> depend*

18:15 <Tank_Master> some will still only take a few hours per WU on a P3 1GHz

18:16 <PovAddict> there is no problem with attaching lots of projects, boinc won't keep work from all of them

18:16 <QrX> atm i am involved in Seti and Climate predict dunno if it can run both

18:16 <Tank_Master> yes, you can, but I wouldnt run climate on the P3

18:16 <QrX> i think climate is a bit heavy

18:16 <PriitM> I'm running SETI@home on my 4200+ box 24/7 aswell

18:16 <Tank_Master> that would take a good 10 months to complewt 1 WU

18:17 <QrX> for wich one ?

18:17 <PovAddict> cpdn

18:17 <Tank_Master> climate on a P3

18:17 <QrX> ah ok

18:17 <QrX> well i will focuse on seti with the P3 then

18:17 <PriitM> Could anyone suggest me 'easy' project which I could run with SETI@home at the same time?

18:17 <QrX> i use it only for this atm

18:18 <Tank_Master> :)

18:18 <QrX> good question PriitM

18:18 <Tank_Master> rosetta has shorter WUs

18:18 <QrX> i dont wanna use BOINC on my main comp for now

18:18 <Tank_Master> what do you meen "easy"?

18:19 <PriitM> what wouldn't take that much CPU resources

18:19 <PovAddict> PriitM: enigma@home uses quite little RAM, and workunits are shorter than seti's; I'm not sure how tight the deadline would be for you tho

18:19 <Tank_Master> that all take the same amount of CPU resorce

18:19 <PriitM> ram is not the problem at all

18:19 <Tank_Master> r u refering to how much ram they take?

18:19 <QrX> i am running climate on other comp and old sempron 2200

18:19 <QrX> an*

18:20 <QrX> you guys are running Linux or other OS ?

18:21 <Tank_Master> purly windows and windows x64

18:21 <PriitM> linux on this box

18:21 <Tank_Master> I have server 2008 x64 on this box

18:21 <QrX> what distro PriitM ?

18:21 <PriitM> ubuntu on 4200+

18:21 <QrX> ubuntu 64 bit then ?

18:22 <PriitM> 32bit

18:22 <Tank_Master> some projects will take advantage of the 64bit

18:22 <QrX> your 4200 is not a dual 64 ?

18:22 <PriitM> it is 64bit dual core, but i got 32bit os installed :P

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18:23 <QrX> hehe

18:23 <QrX> why ?

18:23 <PriitM> actually i don't know :-p

18:23 <QrX> lol

18:24 <QrX> you should install the 64 then :p

18:24 <Tank_Master> :

18:25 <PriitM> is it actually worth upgrading OS?

18:26 <Tank_Master> for some projects, yes

18:26 <PriitM> SETI@home?

18:26 <Tank_Master> not so much

18:26 <QrX> your proc is made to run on 64  so why runnin 32 bit OS

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18:27 <PriitM> i thought that there were less apps supporting 64bit :<

18:27 <QrX> you are on Linux ?

18:28 <PriitM> yes, but my knowledge is still quite little :<

18:28 <Tank_Master> with the latest client, you can get 32bit apps if no 64bit is avalible

18:28 <QrX> my knowledge is not much higher than yours :p

18:29 <QrX> well Ta,k is right anyway a 32 bit app can run on a 64 bit OS i think

18:29 <QrX> Tank*

18:29 <Tank_Master> yes it can

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18:30 <PriitM> i used windows while ago and i heard some issues about 64bit win

18:30 <PriitM> so i thought... :P

18:30 <QrX> so better to install 64 bit os then

18:30 <Tank_Master> just driver issues

18:30 <QrX> maybe

18:30 <Tank_Master> but its been out long enough that thats no longer much of an issue

18:30 <QrX> but with a good linux distro problems should be not so importants

18:31 <Tank_Master> only those compinies who are stuk up enough to think its not worth it

18:31 <QrX> i think Ubuntu or Debian or Fedora are working good in 64 bit version

18:32 <QrX> even Gentoo.....  for geeks

18:32 <Tank_Master> :P

18:32 <QrX> :p

18:33 <QrX> look even Windows is working in 64 PriitM   ^^

18:33 <PriitM> windows works with everything, but it's not that quite stable

18:33 <Tank_Master> not stable?

18:33 <QrX> i tried to make some humor........

18:33 <Tank_Master> how long has it been since you used windows?

18:33 <QrX> lol

18:34 <PriitM> i started using windows in 2000 or so

18:34 <QrX> i always thought windows was name of a well known virus ! :p

18:34 <PriitM> or maybe 1998

18:34 <PriitM> 99*

18:34 <Tank_Master> heh

18:34 <QrX> ....im nasty...

18:35 <Tank_Master> win98 sucked

18:35 <QrX> :p

18:35 <Tank_Master> 2000 was much better

18:35 <QrX> yup first edition

18:35 <Tank_Master> I wish they ever came out with me

18:35 <QrX> indeed 2000 is better

18:35 <PriitM> i used windows 95 :)

18:35 <PriitM> i even had webshots desktop with swimsuits background

18:35 <QrX> well did you ever try win 3.1 :p

18:36 <PriitM> actually not, but i tried to install some windows 1.1(?) on my amd 2200+ box

18:36 <Tank_Master> I had 3.1

18:36 <Tank_Master> I found a copy of dos 1.6 once

18:36 <PovAddict> O_O

18:36 <QrX> well for me i have 2 comps on Linux and One comp on XP atm

18:36 <PriitM> i still have licence book for windows NT and 95

18:37 <PovAddict> I have a win95 CD

18:37 <Tank_Master> think I may still have it on a single 5 1/4" floppy

18:37 <PriitM> I currently have 2x xp pro, ubuntu 7.04, 1x windows mce boxes

18:37 <PriitM> windows mce is pure junk

18:37 <Tank_Master> lol

18:37 <QrX> :)

18:37 <PriitM> i would compare it to windows me or 98(not se)

18:38 <QrX> dont remind me about win Me lol

18:38 <QrX> what a virus !

18:38 <PriitM> i used it for a while on my cool 266mhz 128mb box :)

18:38 <PriitM> i used to beat that pc

18:38 <QrX> i am sad for peeps who bought it

18:39 <Tank_Master> my g-ma has it on her comp...

18:39 <Tank_Master> it actually runs ok...

18:39 <QrX> .........................

18:39 <QrX> hmmm

18:39 <Tank_Master> she only plays solitar on it

18:39 <QrX> are you kidding meh ?  :p

18:39 <Tank_Master> and checks e-mail

18:39 <QrX> hehe

18:40 <QrX> its enuff for it

18:40 <Tank_Master> hasnt quite figured out the hole internet thing

18:40 <PovAddict> there you go

18:40 <PovAddict> that's one of the few things ME is useful for

18:40 <Tank_Master> I did upgrade the ram from 128 to  512

18:40 <QrX> :)

18:40 <PovAddict> are you running BOINC on it?

18:40 <Tank_Master> when im up there

18:41 <Tank_Master> but she shuts it off when she isnt using it

18:41 <QrX> on the Me one ?

18:41 <Tank_Master> ya

18:41 <QrX> ..........

18:42 <QrX> each time i saw a comp with Me when they put it for sale it was a nightmare

18:42 <Tank_Master> so the comp would only be on for a 1/2 a day, if that

18:42 <Tank_Master> 1/2hr

18:42 <PriitM> windows xp pro box has no problems running 2 months without reboot

18:42 <PovAddict> the problem with ME is that they tried to make an improved version

18:43 <PovAddict> and making a good system based on DOS is like dividing by zero: it can't be done

18:43 <QrX> i think Me got pbs with ressources

18:43 <QrX> but well im not a pro with this stuff so its just a personal opinion

18:45 <QrX> i have no complains about XP...as far as i know it ....

18:45 <Tank_Master> its just amasing its stll running

18:45 <QrX> wich ?

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18:45 <Tank_Master> the ME comp

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18:46 <QrX> ah hehe

18:46 <PriitM> would anyone suggest me decent distro to actually learn?

18:46 <QrX> well you are a good user or a lucky guy ...

18:46 <QrX> Debian , Ubuntu Fedora are good for me

18:48 <QrX> you are already running ubuntu ?

18:49 <PriitM> yes and i got little knowledge about red hat, opensuse, fedora, slackware and that network tools livecd linux

18:49 <PriitM> umm...

18:49 <PriitM> backtrack

18:49 <QrX> oh yea bactrack nice tool for networks

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18:50 <QrX> slackware ...well you are a geek :p

18:50 <Tank_Master> lol

18:50 <QrX> you can use Gentoo then

18:50 <PriitM> i basicly only installed and used it for 2 or 3 days :p

18:50 <QrX> i will stay with my Debian and my Fedora :p

18:51 <PriitM> i tried most of them while dualbooting with windows

18:51 <QrX> its a start and its better than me who never tried it

18:51 <QrX> i tried Openbsd and Solaris 10 ...

18:51 <PriitM> i tried to install freebsd 10, but i had some kind of problem there

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18:52 <QrX> but never tried Slackware or Gentoo for now

18:52 <QrX> i dont wanna see my comp compiling for 3 days with Gentoo .....lol

18:53 <PriitM> yeah, i've heard about that

18:53 <QrX> i have things to do with it  :p

18:53 <PriitM> there is livecd version of pentoo aswell

18:53 <PriitM> but it's very outdated, i belive latest version is either 2005 or 2006

18:53 <PriitM> of gentoo*, called pentoo

18:53 <QrX> dunno it

18:54 <PriitM> i found it by accident and gave it a try

18:54 <QrX> well you have 3 way of install with Gentoo

18:54 <QrX> the first step is full compilling

18:54 <QrX> its the hard one

18:54 <PovAddict> isn't it all automated nowadays?

18:54 <QrX> but the 2 others are more simples

18:55 <PovAddict> taking ages to install but you don't really have to do much yourself?

18:55 <QrX> with the step 3 way its simple

18:55 <QrX> well simple .....depend for who...not for a newb like me but well

18:56 <QrX> it works

18:56 <QrX> :p

18:56 <QrX> but anyway i feel well with Debian or Fedora dont need to go in deep things like Gentoo or Slack

18:57 <PriitM> well debian is quite 'deep' aswell, since it's very often used OS

18:57 <QrX> i remember debian was not so easy at the beginning for me

18:57 <PriitM> and wonderful one as well

18:57 <QrX> i remember my first tries lol

18:57 <QrX> it was a nightmare

18:57 <PriitM> i tried red hat 6 or 7 when i still had dial-up

18:58 <PriitM> it didn't detect drivers of my modem, so i couldn't actually use it much :<

18:58 <PriitM> that was pain in the bottom

18:58 <Tank_Master> lol

18:58 <QrX> Debian is really stable  and good to learn linux i think

18:58 <QrX> hehe

18:58 <PriitM> and has wonderful package manager

18:58 <CoderForLife> ah good news

18:59 <QrX> yup but  Fedora Yum is great also

18:59 <CoderForLife> that's 2 good news items tonight

18:59 <PriitM> i managed to ruin my KDE while ms

18:59 <PriitM> messing with yum

18:59 <QrX> you won lotto ?

18:59 <CoderForLife> got xquery running

18:59 <QrX> :p

18:59 <CoderForLife> doctor says my sister is better than it appears

18:59 <QrX> :)

19:00 <CoderForLife> my sister is very sick

19:00 <QrX> oh (

19:00 <PriitM> :>

19:00 <PriitM> :<*

19:00 <QrX> sorry for that (

19:00 <QrX> and sorry for my bad english also

19:00 <CoderForLife> she was admitted to the hospital yesterday

19:00 <Tank_Master> ouch

19:01 <Tank_Master> not fun

19:01 <CoderForLife> no probelmo  =)

19:01 <QrX> sorry about that should be better i think ....

19:01 <CoderForLife> yeah, she was very sick in August

19:01 <QrX> yup not fun indeed

19:01 <CoderForLife> refused to go to the doctor

19:01 <CoderForLife> lost 65 pounds

19:01 <QrX> no good

19:01 <CoderForLife> (U.S.)

19:01 <CoderForLife> infection has set in in her legs

19:02 <Tank_Master> man

19:02 <Tank_Master> thats not good

19:02 <CoderForLife> her legs are enornous in size

19:02 <QrX> ........

19:02 <CoderForLife> and some weird shades of green (I'm told)

19:02 <QrX> damn

19:02 <Tank_Master> :P

19:02 <CoderForLife> and oozing stuff

19:02 <Tank_Master> defently not wood

19:03 <Romulus> (apologies to Rudolph the Red Hat Linux awarded top government security rating

19:03 <CoderForLife> the initial assessment was that she was either going to lose the legs or her life

19:03 <PovAddict> eek

19:03 <QrX> i need some whiskey

19:03 <CoderForLife> doctor from the local burns unit came in and said that underneath there is pink skin

19:03 <CoderForLife> so that is a good skin

19:04 <Tank_Master> ahh, good

19:04 <CoderForLife> the entire team from the local burns unit will visit her tomorrow

19:04 <CoderForLife> not that she was burned

19:04 <PovAddict> but they know about skin

19:04 <CoderForLife> exactly

19:04 <CoderForLife> they know how to put meat on none

19:04 <CoderForLife> er bone

19:05 <CoderForLife> they said had she waited any longer, it may have been fatal

19:05 <Tank_Master> lol

19:05 <CoderForLife> so........ been distracted

19:05 <CoderForLife> and the xquery thing has been a bit trying over the last day or so

19:06 <PovAddict> how did you get it to work now?

19:06 <CoderForLife> http://alexandre.alapetite.net/doc-alex/domxml-php4-php5/index.en.html

19:06 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1+i$> (at alexandre.alapetite.net)

19:06 <PovAddict> rewrote it to use php5 apis, found another, or went back to php4?

19:06 <PovAddict> ohh

19:06 <CoderForLife> wrapper

19:07 <PovAddict> yeah I remember having seen that one at some time...

19:07 <CoderForLife> based on the wrapper, I may rewrite xquery_lite to just work with PHP 5

19:07 <PovAddict> and send patches to author of course =)

19:07 <CoderForLife> but I got enough for proof-of-concept

19:08 <CoderForLife> when I use it to call a small XML file it works fine

19:08 <CoderForLife> when I use it on my 100 page XML file, it just returns a null string

19:08 <PovAddict> strange

19:08 <CoderForLife> but plenty to work with

19:09 <Tank_Master> it sees how much work there is and desides it doent feel like working on it

19:09 <CoderForLife> I may be constructing the xpath query part wrong

19:09 <CoderForLife> or it is failing on the large file

19:09 <CoderForLife> start small then grow it

19:09 <QrX> this talk is not for meh !

19:09 <PovAddict> try loading it into dom directly

19:09 <QrX> :p

19:09 <CoderForLife> the whole XML file?

19:10 <PovAddict> to see if it's correctly parsed etc

19:10 <QrX> Action Mutante !

19:10 <PovAddict> yeah; that's what the xquery_lite script would be doing internally anyway

19:10 <CoderForLife> is there a good function to call to see if it's well-formed?

19:10 <QrX> ............

19:10 <QrX> a mi madre le gusta las mujeres !

19:10 <PovAddict> parsing it :)

19:11 <PovAddict> QrX: do you know what you're saying or not?

19:11 <PovAddict> lol

19:11 * CoderForLife smacks his forehead

19:11 <QrX> of course lol

19:11 <CoderForLife> I mean, how can I tell it everything is there?

19:11 <QrX> i am just trying to joke a bit

19:11 <PovAddict> maybe you were just saying random sentences you don't even know what they mean

19:11 <Tank_Master> lol

19:11 <Tank_Master> kinda like rommie

19:11 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: if it's not well-formed, the parsing will give an error, not have randomly missing stuff

19:12 <CoderForLife> ok - I'll give that a try

19:12 <PovAddict> like this friend who once said

19:12 <PovAddict> tu madre tiene un bigote

19:12 <PovAddict> (wtf does that mean)

19:12 * CoderForLife makes note - "if any problems, call 1-800-POV-ADCT"

19:13 <QrX> i am not great in spanish but i understand it enough to know what i am typing Pov :p

19:13 <CoderForLife> meo no speako espanole

19:13 <QrX> i am living not far from Spain by the way

19:14 <QrX> i know in Argentina its not exactly the same but its not so different

19:14 <QrX> and by the way i prefer the south american spanish than the true spanish one

19:15 <PovAddict> there's more differences between Latin American Spanish and Spain Spanish than between UK English and USA English...

19:15 <QrX> indeed i gree

19:15 <QrX> agree

19:15 <PovAddict> yet UK/US english is usually separated...

19:16 <QrX> you are talking castillano is south america right ?

19:17 <QrX> and there is more difference with slangs ...

19:17 <QrX> did you see some Alexi de la iglesia movies Pov ?

19:17 <PovAddict> well there's difference with slang between provinces in the same country, so duh :P

19:18 <QrX> yea lol same in my country indeed

19:18 <PovAddict> among teenagers, there's slang differences between neighborhoods; and it probably happens in all languages, not spanish only...

19:19 <QrX> ah teens !

19:19 <PovAddict> lol

19:19 <QrX> :)

19:19 <Tank_Master> mmm... teeennnsss

19:19 <PriitM> teens should be launched into the sun :<

19:19 <PovAddict> thanks PriitM

19:19 <QrX> lol Tank

19:20 <Tank_Master> :P

19:20 <PriitM> i'm teen aswell

19:20 <QrX> tank is nasty :p

19:20 <Tank_Master> LOL

19:20 <PriitM> for one or two more years

19:20 <QrX> naughty *

19:20 <PriitM> Tank_Master, you're fan of jailbait? :>

19:20 <QrX> he dont think about the same Teens ....:p

19:20 <Tank_Master> ?

19:21 <QrX> so you wanna be launched to the sun Priit

19:21 <PriitM> it would be quite nice experience

19:22 <QrX> hot one i guess

19:22 <PovAddict> being burned alive is a nice experience?

19:22 <QrX> :p

19:22 <PriitM> well... not quite

19:23 <QrX> :)

19:23 <PriitM> i got ~1 year of teen years left, so hopefully i'm safe :>

19:23 <QrX> hehe

19:24 <QrX> depend you can stay a teen for long in your mind

19:25 <PriitM> majority of teens are pieces of meat walking around and chatting about bullshit, so i wouldn't like to stay teen in my mind.

19:25 <wdsmia> asks PriitM to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

19:25 <PriitM> his* sorry about it :<

19:25 <QrX> maybe its cause of that that my wife left me ..............lol

19:26 <PriitM> well i don't know how are teens in mind in france, but here they are pieces of poop who deserve beating :>

19:26 <QrX> i stayed a teen ...

19:26 <QrX> lol

19:26 <QrX> some are some not

19:26 <PovAddict> ever went to myspace?

19:26 <QrX> depend education and personnality

19:27 <PriitM> possibly

19:27 <PriitM> i've been to myspace to record song or two, but nothing more.

19:27 <PovAddict> I mean just to see what kind of crap is there

19:27 <QrX> i hope they are not all like you said cause if yes the future is dark lol

19:27 <QrX> myspace whats that ?

19:28 <QrX> kinda blog server ?

19:28 <PovAddict> QrX: ...worse

19:28 <QrX> lol

19:28 <PriitM> don't worry, we got site www.rate.ee, which has about 200 000 teens tuning their pictures and wasting money on 'cool' skins and 10 point scores :/

19:29 <QrX> hehe

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19:30 <QrX> myspace a place for friends ?

19:30 <PriitM> it was really good business idea though - guy made small portal and our telecom giant bought it for approx. $4 000 000

19:31 <QrX> yea ! MySpace Buzz !

19:31 <QrX> lol

19:31 <MTughan> Meh to social networking.

19:31 <PovAddict> ++ to MTughan

19:32 <MTughan> Nice to know I'm appreciated... :P

19:32 <QrX> :)

19:33 <PriitM> could anyone tell me the command to remove folders by windows xp cmd.exe?

19:33 <MTughan> rmdir should be what you want.

19:33 <PriitM> thank you

19:33 <PovAddict> rmdir deletes empty folders

19:33 <MTughan> Does -r work on rm in Windows?

19:34 <PovAddict> there is no rm on windows :P it's del

19:34 <MTughan> Right...

19:34 <PovAddict> use del /s

19:34 <CoderForLife> off for the evening - gn all

19:34 <QrX> you have rights trouble Priit ?

19:34 <MTughan> Night CFL.

19:34 <QrX> Nite Coder

19:35 <PriitM> i had some files on external HDD, which didn't have delete option

19:37 <QrX> the old seti graphics was looking better than the new one....

19:37 <PriitM> seti@home graphics are 'lagging' for me

19:37 <QrX> same here

19:38 <PriitM> perhaps like 1-5fps

19:38 <QrX> anyway its not the most important its only for the fun

19:38 <PriitM> true that

19:39 <PovAddict> dinner ->

19:39 <MTughan> Bye.

19:39 <QrX> buen appetito

19:39 <PriitM> head isu

19:39 <QrX> apetito*

19:44 <PriitM> only no-lifers online here in this timezone

19:44 <MTughan> What time is it?

19:44 <PriitM> 02.44; 2.44AM

19:44 <MTughan> Haha! Nice!

19:44 <MTughan> 7:44 in Toronto, Canada.

19:45 <PriitM> Tallinn, Estonia :p

19:45 <MTughan> Hehe...

19:45 <PriitM> never heard about it?

19:45 <PriitM> :>

19:45 <MTughan> About what?

19:45 <PriitM> estonia

19:45 <MTughan> Yeah, I don't know where it is. I know it's in Dilbert comics though. That's about it. :P

19:46 <MTughan> Ah, Wikipedia to the rescue.

19:46 <QrX> Priit your in estonia ?

19:46 <PriitM> yes

19:46 <QrX> nice

19:46 <PriitM> right...

19:46 <QrX> well for me its 1.43 AM

19:46 <MTughan> Europe too?

19:47 <QrX> you have one hour more than us

19:47 <QrX> yup

19:47 <PriitM> I'm in +2 GMT

19:47 <QrX> indeed

19:47 <MTughan> -5 GMT.

19:48 <QrX> do you also have winter hour in Estonia ?

19:48 <PriitM> yes

19:48 <QrX> i hate this stuff

19:48 <PriitM> yeah, it can be annoying

19:49 <QrX> i bet night is coming near 3 PM  in your country ?

19:49 <QrX> in winter..

19:49 <MTughan> lol

19:49 <PriitM> sunset 3.51PM

19:49 <QrX> i leaved in Poland and the night was falling at 3 Pm   during winters

19:49 <MTughan> Wow... Okay, you weren't kidding...

19:49 <PriitM> :P it's snowing here

19:50 <PriitM> about 5cm of snow already

19:50 <QrX> i guess

19:50 <QrX> its alredy cold here lol

19:50 <MTughan> 4C, and I'm still in a T-shirt and shorts. :P

19:50 <QrX> MT where are you ?

19:50 <QrX> Canada

19:50 <MTughan> Toronto.

19:50 <QrX> K

19:51 <QrX> you speak some french or not ?

19:51 <PriitM> que?

19:51 <MTughan> No, I don't.

19:51 <QrX> only english native

19:51 <MTughan> Yep. Any other languages I know are ones that can be compiled.

19:51 <QrX> i have lot of friends but in Quebec

19:51 <QrX> lol

19:52 <MTughan> 10 others, to be exact.

19:52 <QrX> thats good thing anyway :)

19:52 <QrX> you are a true programer

19:52 <MTughan> Okay, most of them are interpreted, but it's still programming! :P

19:52 <QrX> :)

19:53 <QrX> is it your job ?

19:53 <MTughan> Naw, just a pasttime at this point. Still in high school.

19:54 <QrX> i would luv to have a passtime like that .... but im to old now its to late to learn programminglangs (

19:54 <MTughan> Although I hope it to become my job.

19:54 <MTughan> Hey, it's never too late to learn programming.

19:55 <QrX> you need time for that and i dont have time to much

19:55 <MTughan> Okay, yeah that's a limiting factor...

19:55 <QrX> the most important factor

19:55 <MTughan> Yeah... Also some knowledge about how computers work internally.

19:55 <QrX> and also i am getting old my brain is not working well now

19:56 <PriitM> my brain isn't working well either and I'm only 17 :<

19:56 <QrX> well i spent time in networks ... so i xant spend time on programming (

19:56 <MTughan> I find a lot of my classmates wonder why they can't just tell a computer to do something, and why it can't do that.

19:57 <MTughan> First thing to know: the computer is as dumb as a rock!

19:57 <PriitM> and many of the users are even dumber :<

19:57 <MTughan> Did I stun you into silence or something?

19:57 <MTughan> Hehe... So very true.

19:58 <QrX> damn so young and already good philosopher :)

19:59 <MTughan> PriitM: How does your brain not work well?

19:59 <QrX> well im dumb and im getting old its worse

19:59 <PriitM> I've done few dumb things in my life... it has killed many of my braincells.

19:59 <QrX> i seee :p

20:00 <QrX> some abuses

20:00 <QrX> lol

20:00 <MTughan> Alcohol involved by any chance?

20:00 <PriitM> I've abused my brain

20:00 <PriitM> not only :<

20:00 <MTughan> Ouch...

20:00 <Romulus> with FastCGI, the suffix would be using group=users...

20:00 <QrX> and maybe other illicit substances

20:00 <MTughan> Shush bot...

20:00 <PriitM> lol

20:00 <QrX> Romulus go to see if Remus is here

20:00 <Romulus> QrX: Error: You need to have PySQLite installed to use this plugin.  Download it at <http://pysqlite.org/>

20:01 <PriitM> last time i thought i was trolley bus and wet myself :/

20:01 <QrX> lol

20:01 <PriitM> have been clean since then

20:01 <QrX> you should be an artist

20:01 <MTughan> Ah, that's what I'm looking for...

20:01 <MTughan> &quiet

20:01 <Romulus> Shhhhh... Day Sleepers

20:02 <MTughan> Or maybe not... :P

20:02 <QrX> being an artist MT ?

20:02 <MTughan> Sorry?

20:02 <QrX> nvm

20:02 <QrX> what are you looking for ?

20:02 <MTughan> For an occupation?

20:03 <QrX> BTW Priit , you dont have school tommorow ?

20:03 <QrX> you have lot to do with programming MT

20:03 <PriitM> I'm 'studying' through web and only go to school to fill up test  sheets.

20:03 <MTughan> Yeah, I'm looking at becoming a software engineer.

20:04 <QrX> oh

20:04 <PriitM> I'm going for system admin, thinking of applying to skype junior system admin right now

20:04 <QrX> i wish i could study like that when i was young (

20:05 <PriitM> it's 'studying'

20:05 <MTughan> Try putting a colon before, like this: :(

20:05 <PriitM> most teachers let you pass

20:05 <QrX> yuo are interested in Voip stuff Priit ?

20:05 <PriitM> not really, but i could get some experience

20:05 <QrX> you*

20:05 <MTughan> Experience is always valuable...

20:05 <QrX> my bad typing

20:06 <QrX> yup even for sex

20:06 <QrX> :p

20:06 <PriitM> tru dat

20:06 <PriitM> odd, chkdsk isn't working on my external hdd... :/

20:06 <MTughan> You get an error?

20:07 <PriitM> I see that it uses hdd, but it doesn't actually seem to work

20:07 <PriitM> no errors

20:07 <MTughan> How do you know it's not working?

20:07 <PriitM> it's my fault actually

20:07 <PriitM> this silly laptop has usb1.1 port

20:08 <PriitM> this is most likely slowing the process down

20:08 <MTughan> Yeah... Either of you seen USB3 yet?

20:08 <PriitM> seen only news :)

20:08 <MTughan> Ditto.

20:08 <MTughan> But the optical seems cool.

20:09 <PriitM> ok, good night. i shall be back and chat tomorrow

20:09 <MTughan> All right, night.

20:09 <MTughan> Rommie's &nn is cool too...

20:09 <MTughan> &nn all

20:09 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

20:10 <QrX> Good nite

20:14 <QrX> well i wont be long

20:24 <QrX> Gn all

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21:00 <MTughan> brb

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21:13 <zombie67> sudoku is back up

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21:32 <zombie67> http://boinc.fzk.de/poem/forum_thread.php?id=51

21:32 <Romulus> Title: account problems (at boinc.fzk.de)

21:32 <Romulus> apparently screaming 'leave my daddy alone!' while beating his head swell...

21:32 <Tank_Master> your sick, rommie

21:33 <wdsmia> lol

21:33 <zombie67> this new team thing is already causing security concerns, because people think some nefarious person had access.

21:33 <Tank_Master> but I do.. muhahahahah

21:33 <Tank_Master> :P

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21:39 <zombie67> looks like I am about 4 days away from 100k at leiden

21:41 <wdsmia> looks like I crunched my last wu at leiden back in Jan

21:42 <MTughan> lol

21:42 <Tank_Master> lol

21:42 <Tank_Master> thats about the same time as me

21:42 * MTughan crunched his last WU at leiden never. :P

21:44 <wdsmia> and still have a rac of 125.41 rofl

21:44 <MTughan> lol

21:45 <PovAddict> :o

21:45 <PovAddict> they aren't rumning the rac decay task

21:45 <PovAddict> running*

21:45 <MTughan> That could explain it.

21:45 <zombie67> I have found that many of the older projects do not run rac decay

21:47 <zombie67> rosetta is down

21:47 <zombie67> they (finally!) updated server SW on RALPH a week or two ago.

21:47 <zombie67> probably upgrading Rosetta now.

21:48 <Tank_Master> the server software?

21:49 <MTughan> Or a server.

21:50 * Tank_Master likes new servers

21:50 <MTughan> lol

21:52 <zombie67> I think rosetta has pretty good funding

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22:06 <Tank_Master> well, it IS funded by the University of washington...

22:07 <zombie67> "This feature was based on discussions with the largest group of team founders I was able to convene, namely the founders of the 30 largest SETI@home teams."

22:07 <PovAddict> on the google group, probs

22:07 <zombie67> Hmmm.  My team is ranked 15th.  We were not invited.

22:08 <wdsmia> brb

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22:08 <Tank_Master> funny

22:08 <Tank_Master> I didnt hear anything from our founders about it...

22:09 <Tank_Master> and we are ranked #1 in both SETI and combined...

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22:12 * Tank_Master slaps wdsmia-away around a bit with a large trout

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22:12 <Tank_Master> wake up!

22:12 <PovAddict> don't piss off the ops

22:12 <Tank_Master> there we go ;)

22:12 <Tank_Master> hehe

22:13 * Tank_Master hides behind PovAddict

22:14 <zombie67> i'm beat.  night all!

22:14 <MTughan> Night.

22:14 <MTughan> &nn zombie67

22:14 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

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22:14 <PovAddict> crap

22:14 <PovAddict> midnight

22:14 <PovAddict> brb

22:15 <Tank_Master> hf

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23:09 <Bads_Quad> &weather 86046

23:09 <Romulus> Bads_Quad: Temperature: 43.2F / 6.2C | Humidity: 55% | Pressure: 23.74in / 803.8hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy in the evening then becoming partly cloudy. A slight chance of sprinkles in the evening. Snow level above 9000 feet. Lows 26 to 36. Light winds.; Friday - Partly cloudy. Highs 59 to 65. Light winds.; Friday Night - Partly (1 more message)

23:09 <Bads_Quad> &more

23:09 <Romulus> Bads_Quad: cloudy. Lows 25 to 35. Light winds.;

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23:12 <mweltin> MTughan: do you feel like building some mac apps today or tomorrow?

23:13 <mweltin> the 2.08 is done and I'm tyring to do the win build now.

23:13 <mweltin> PovAddict may have already done it I dont know.

23:14 <PovAddict> I would but I have no idea how to get the code

23:14 <mweltin> oh the svn link didn'twork for you?

23:15 <mweltin> svn://bob.myisland.as/svn/repos/tsp/trunk

23:15 <mweltin> I think that should work.

23:15 <mweltin> I have been running around crazy all day.

23:15 <PovAddict> I had lost the link

23:15 <PovAddict> downloading

23:15 <mweltin> I still have to walk my dog and return a movie.

23:16 <mweltin> the job interview went well, and the guy is super excited but he doesn't have clearence from upper management yet.

23:20 <mweltin> was MTughan around?

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23:22 <mweltin> oh PovAddict you will find this funny.

23:23 <mweltin> my internet service is 128-available and is $75

23:23 <mweltin> so I'm told I can expect at least 10% of that at any time, and 128k when there is no demand

23:24 <PovAddict> compiled

23:24 <PovAddict> I'll recompile with -O2

23:24 <mweltin> if you want 256k highest priority guess how much it is.

23:24 <PovAddict> ten thousand dollars?

23:24 <mweltin> 4k $US/ month

23:24 <Romulus> seth_USB: Only if I do think she showed up

23:24 <PovAddict> four

23:24 <PovAddict> thou

23:24 <PovAddict> sand?

23:24 <mweltin> YES!?!?!!?

23:25 <PovAddict> !

23:25 <mweltin> can you believe that

23:25 <PovAddict> I'm probably paying less than US$100 for this 600k

23:26 <mweltin> I KNOW crazy sin't it.

23:26 <PovAddict> http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar/tsp.exe

23:26 <mweltin> ok I have ot take off

23:26 <mweltin> SWEET!

23:26 <mweltin> thanks

23:26 <mweltin> how much to you rock

23:26 <mweltin> plenty

23:26 <mweltin> see you in a bit.

23:27 <mweltin> and if MTughan comes back see if he would be interested in doing a mac build.  If not that is ok.

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23:40 <PovAddict> MTughan: ping

23:40 <MTughan> Sorry bout that.

23:40 <PovAddict> http://www.acrobots.net/ <- this guy knows what he's doing o_o

23:40 <Romulus> Title: Acrobots (at www.acrobots.net)

23:43 <MTughan> Wow... Okay, so mweltin has another update to his code.

23:43 <PovAddict> I wonder if AMcBain can do this with canvas: http://www.vectorpark.com/ball.html

23:43 <Romulus> Title: Ball (at www.vectorpark.com)

23:43 <PovAddict> :P :P

23:44 <PovAddict> it's a mess to do the 3D effect using 2D, and then there is also the AI

23:50 <MTughan> Those Acrobots are so amusing to watch...

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23:56 <PovAddict> http://www.vectorpark.com/holes.html

23:56 <Romulus> Title: Holes (at www.vectorpark.com)

23:59 <MTughan> All right, I have the updated TSP source. Gonna build it tomorrow, because it's midnight here. 2AM there, isn't it?

23:59 <MTughan> Actually, CAD and XKCD should be updating within minutes.

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