00:14 <quail> afternoon all, how are we all?
00:15 <efc> Moo, doing good on my little simulation
00:15 <quail> sweet :-)
00:18 <quail> I had to go into tafe today and hand some stuff into the lecturer
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03:57 <blendtux> damm, have i finaly finished one wu, is the server down
03:58 <sethy> hai gais
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06:10 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140
06:10 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 33.9°F / 1.1°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 30.25in / 1024.3hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 2.3mph / 3.7km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. A slight chance of snow showers this morning. Highs in the upper 30s. Northwest winds around 5 mph. Chance of snow 20 percent.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 20s. Light northwest winds...becoming southeast (1 more message)
06:10 <CoderForLife> &more
06:10 <Romulus> CoderForLife: after midnight.; Saturday - Partly sunny. Highs in the mid 40s. South winds 5 to 10 mph.;
06:29 <CoderForLife> brb breakfast
06:43 <CoderForLife> b
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06:52 <blendtux> PovAddict you here??
06:53 <blendtux> Romulus: you are evil
06:53 <blendtux> you evil bot Romulus
06:58 <CoderForLife> it's best not to make the channel bot mad
06:58 * CoderForLife rubs Rommies chrome dome and puts two more quarters in his slot
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06:59 <CoderForLife> &eightball Is Rommie mad at blendtux?
06:59 <Romulus> CoderForLife: No clue.
07:13 <quail> hey what the f@ck up homies
07:13 <MTughan> Interesting way to greet...
07:13 <quail> that me
07:13 <quail> :-P
07:13 <blendtux> lol
07:13 <MTughan> 'lo quail, blendtux
07:14 <quail> hey MTughan, how are things bloke?
07:14 <MTughan> Doing great. Off to school in about 5 minutes.
07:15 <quail> oh :-(., me is pissed
07:15 <quail> pissed = drunk
07:15 <MTughan> I actually have to leave for the bus in 10 minutes, but I make sure my computer's powered down at least 5 minutes beforehand.
07:16 <MTughan> quail: And why are you drunk?
07:17 <quail> cause I can and it late here
07:17 <MTughan> lol
07:18 <quail> :-)
07:20 <MTughan> So how drunk are you at this point? Incapacitated?
07:20 <quail> 1/2 carton drunk
07:20 <MTughan> How big is a carton?
07:21 <quail> 1/2 carton = 12 beers
07:21 <quail> 375 ml bottles
07:22 <MTughan> Holy crap... I think it's good that I have to be off...
07:22 <quail> hehe
07:22 <quail> ttyl mate
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07:50 <CoderForLife> re-hi
07:52 <CoderForLife> it's snowing at the moment
07:53 <CoderForLife> 12 beers???
07:54 <CoderForLife> no wonder you're being obscene
07:58 <PriitM> is there any problems with SETi@home? my communication is deferred 24H
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08:03 <xcamel> 'lo
08:04 <CoderForLife> hello Jay
08:04 <CoderForLife> S@H seems to be OK to me, PriitM
08:04 <xcamel> 'lo Don
08:05 <PriitM> OK, I'll take a look at my settings once again
08:05 <CoderForLife> getting some light snow showers this morning, xcamel - 'tis pretty
08:08 <xcamel> ditto - and 24F
08:08 <CoderForLife> 34F here
08:09 <CoderForLife> I've been lost in memories this morning. Got an e-mail from a old friend last night, supporting Huckabee. Caused me to google a number of names from my past.
08:09 <xcamel> lol
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08:12 <PriitM> Hmm, I get message of this kind: Message from server: platform" not found
08:13 <CoderForLife> what kind of system are you running boinc on?
08:14 <CoderForLife> probabky not supported by S@H
08:15 <CoderForLife> bbiab
08:16 <PriitM> using amd64 debian4
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08:30 <xcamel> wb..
08:31 <c0dewarrior> danke
08:31 <c0dewarrior> temporary isp insanity
08:35 <PriitM> Hmm, I get message of this kind: Message from server: platform" not found. Using amd64 debian4
08:37 <xcamel> it happens..
08:38 <PriitM> is it temponary issue?
08:40 <xcamel> you have to read the 'anonymous platform' wiki at the boinc site
08:40 <PriitM> ok, i'll do that
08:40 <PriitM> thx
08:41 <xcamel> some projects won't have work for custom/unique systems
09:07 <PriitM> ah yes, got boinc working correctly
09:07 <xcamel> good for you
09:09 <PriitM> although i hope it's some kind of error: to completion 23-24H per wu
09:09 <xcamel> what project?
09:09 <PriitM> seti@home
09:09 <PriitM> on amd 4200+ dual core with 100% cpu time
09:10 <xcamel> that will settle dow after you run a few..
09:10 <PriitM> oh ok. thanks for the help
09:11 <xcamel> my 6000+ dc does them in 4 hrs.
09:11 <xcamel> usually less
09:12 <PriitM> it takes about 5 hours for my pc, but most of the time i'm using computer
09:15 <PriitM> 5h 20mins if i remember correctly
09:15 <xcamel> that's on my only winbox
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09:19 <xcamel> &weather 12074
09:19 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 22.6°F / -5.2°C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1018.8hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Isolated snow showers this morning. Much colder with highs in the upper 30s. Northwest winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of snow 20 percent.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Cold with lows around 17. Northwest winds (1 more message)
09:19 <xcamel> &more
09:19 <Romulus> xcamel: 10 to 15 mph...becoming west around 5 mph after midnight.; Saturday - Partly sunny. Cold with highs in the mid 30s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.;
09:19 <xcamel> burrrr....
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09:21 <PriitM> &weather tallinn
09:21 <Romulus> PriitM: Temperature: 39Â°F / 4Â°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.65in / 1004hPa | Conditions: Drizzle | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 3:50 PM EET; Chance of Rain. High:42 ° F. / 6 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:32 ° F. / 0 ° C.; Clear. High:33 ° F. / 1 ° C.; Clear. Low:26 ° F. / -3 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:39 ° F. / 4 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:32 ° F. / 0 ° C.;
09:25 <PriitM> i got pile of wires bigger then my belly =/
09:25 <PriitM> can anyone help me find power cord inside it?
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09:46 <wdsmia> &weather 50265
09:46 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 15°F / -9°C | Humidity: 84% | Pressure: 30.48in / 1032hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h ; Today - Sunny. High in the upper 30s. Southwest wind 5 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening then becoming mostly cloudy. Scattered flurries after midnight. Low in the mid 20s. Southwest wind 10 to 15 mph.; Saturday - Partly sunny. A 40 (1 more message)
09:46 <wdsmia> &more
09:46 <Romulus> wdsmia: percent chance of snow in the morning. High around 40. Southwest wind 10 to 15 mph with gusts to around 30 mph.;
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10:05 <CoderForLife> hello Doug
10:05 <wdsmia> *lo Don
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10:14 <blendtux> PovAddict: you here ??
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11:03 <PovAddict> blendtux: no
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11:15 <PriitM> now I'
11:15 <PriitM> I'm getting 8% of the download speed I should get
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11:19 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Xubuntu Compiz Fusion VERY OLD computer / Better than Vista (at www.youtube.com)
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11:51 <xcamel> re-hi
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11:58 <BadBarbarian> lol I am still full from yesterday
12:01 <xcamel> still wishing I could get rid of this "cold"
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12:03 <BadBarbarian> it was 5 degrees f here this morning
12:03 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86023
12:04 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 33°F / 1°C | Humidity: 29% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly sunny in the morning becoming partly cloudy. Highs around 36 on the North Rim to around 59 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 19 on the North Rim to around 35 along the Colorado River. Light (1 more message)
12:04 <BadBarbarian> &more
12:04 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: winds.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Highs around 34 on the North Rim to around 56 along the Colorado River. Northeast winds around 15 mph.;
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13:24 <Romulus> Title: Valve - Survey Summary Data (at www.steampowered.com)
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13:33 <yoyo[RKN]> zombie67
13:33 <yoyo[RKN]> you got a bunch of evos
13:34 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: omg people with 8 physical CPUs
13:34 <CoderForLife> lol
13:34 <CoderForLife> hardcore gammers
13:34 <CoderForLife> anyway, interesting stats
13:35 <CoderForLife> nvidia rulez
13:35 <PovAddict> I have a powerful card that I'm not taking much advantage of... I'm considering disabling it during the summer (and use the integrated one) to lower electricity usage
13:36 <CoderForLife> going out to put up the Christmas wreath on the house (and use more electricity) - bbl
13:38 <PovAddict> hmm
13:38 <PovAddict> if I disable it by software (device manager or whatever), would it stop getting power, or should I physically remove it for that? :-\
13:54 <zombie67> hi yoyo
13:55 <zombie67> yep, crunching away.
13:55 <zombie67> how is the testing coming along?
13:56 <zombie67> oops, gotta run. bbl
13:56 <PovAddict> reached 20k on simap
13:56 <PovAddict> and 193k total
14:15 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86331
14:15 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 51.1°F / 10.6°C | Humidity: 16% | Pressure: 29.71in / 1006.0hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Today - Cooler. Mostly sunny early in the morning then becoming partly cloudy. Highs 55 to 63. Light winds.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows 31 to 41. Light winds becoming north around 15 mph early in the morning.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. (1 more message)
14:15 <blendtux> damm damm damm, sorry for the strong words,
14:15 <xcamel> all the way up to 25F here
14:15 <blendtux> i finaly procesed a wu unit on my slow computer, is the server down, cant upload it :(\
14:15 <wdsmia> &weather 50265
14:16 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 27°F / -3°C | Humidity: 66% | Pressure: 30.41in / 1030hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly sunny. High in the lower 30s. South wind 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy early in the evening then becoming mostly cloudy. Scattered flurries after midnight. Low in the mid 20s. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Partly (1 more message)
14:16 <blendtux> PovAddict: do you know when burp is up again
14:16 <PovAddict> ask on burp forums?
14:17 <blendtux> lol, the site is down
14:17 <PovAddict> then I don't know more than you about it
14:17 <blendtux> what i dont understand is, why they have not split the webserver from the project server, it seems to me that they run on the same computers
14:18 <blendtux> cause they are always both down
14:18 <zombie67> congrats!
14:18 <blendtux> thanks zombie67
14:19 <zombie67> it is truely amazing how so many project servers break during long holidays....
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14:21 <blendtux> man, i hate this, have a finaly done 2 wu's cant i upload them grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr i think i will create my own local boinc project, that way i am always able to uplaod the results
14:21 <PovAddic1> krap
14:21 <PovAddic1> blendtux: why would that be any useful?
14:22 <PovAddic1> apart from the fact that you basically need to re-do what BURP has taken years to do
14:22 <blendtux> it would not be usefull, but then again, this is allso not usefull if this server is crashing everyweek
14:23 <PovAddic1> if Google had stability problems, would you say "i will make my own search engine, that way I can always access it"?
14:23 <blendtux> now, but other people will :)
14:24 <blendtux> anyway. its just my frustration, dont understand why they dont host the project webserver on a different computer, so atleast they can provide info about what is happening
14:24 <PovAddic1> suggest it on the forums when they're back (then donate to buy the new server :P)
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14:25 <blendtux> ahahahah, well if i could donate a new server, i would buy another pc first, instead of trying to crunch wu on my old 600 mhz celeron
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15:13 <mweltin> hey guys
15:14 <xcamel> 'lo
15:15 <mweltin> I can't believe I'm still dealing with some team name issue.
15:15 <mweltin> some guy listed himself as founder of team Planet3D Now and apparently someother guys stated that team 7 years ago.
15:16 <mweltin> so he asked me to ask the other guy to change the name, which he did, but now he doesn't like the new name either.
15:17 <xcamel> SRB's
15:18 <wdsmia> welcome to sys admin... It only gets worse from here,but that why you get paid the Big money lol
15:18 <mweltin> very funny wdsmia
15:18 <wdsmia> not so funny but mostly true
15:20 <xcamel> Welcome to sysadmin. Would you like the red pill, or the blue? You do not have a choice.
15:20 <Romulus> The dumb bot laughs...
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15:27 <zombie67> hi mweltin
15:28 <mweltin> zombie67!
15:28 <mweltin> how goes it?
15:28 <zombie67> smoothly
15:28 <zombie67> 3600 at TSP yesterday
15:29 <mweltin> was that you download speed?
15:29 <zombie67> credits
15:29 <mweltin> nice!
15:29 <mweltin> I have to turn on that strict error checking again.
15:30 <zombie67> I had a day over 10k recently
15:30 <mweltin> but that will have ot wait. I have a meeting regarding the future of American Samoa's intranet.
15:30 <mweltin> WOW, I'm giving you too much work.
15:30 <zombie67> ;)
15:30 <zombie67> I think it will even out somewhere around 5k/day
15:31 <PovAddict> whoa
15:32 <PovAddict> java compiler is crashing with a stack overflow
15:32 <mweltin> if canonical.result.id == zombie67 credit_granted = 30 lashing with a wet noodle.
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15:36 <mweltin> I have to get ready for my meeting.
15:36 <mweltin> take care
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15:46 <yoyo[RKN]> re
15:47 <zombie67> hello
15:52 <yoyo[RKN]> you got lot of evos
15:52 <zombie67> yep. everything working so far?
15:52 <yoyo[RKN]> yes
15:52 <zombie67> ETA of mac apps?
15:52 <yoyo[RKN]> later
15:53 <zombie67> heh
15:53 <yoyo[RKN]> still 51 evos unsent
15:54 <zombie67> don't blame me. I did 5500 in credits for yoyo yesterday. http://boincstats.com/stats/user_graph.php?pr=yoyo&id=182
15:54 <yoyo[RKN]> hehe, cool
15:55 <yoyo[RKN]> evo gives currently standard boinc credits
15:55 <yoyo[RKN]> but I will change this in future
15:56 <zombie67> many people running evo besides me?
15:56 <yoyo[RKN]> round 50 selected beta apps
15:57 <yoyo[RKN]> think 30 got evos
15:58 <zombie67> they would need to select evo and beta to get any, right?
15:58 <yoyo[RKN]> think so, yes
15:59 <zombie67> when will we have stats split out?
15:59 <yoyo[RKN]> good question
15:59 <yoyo[RKN]> how should this be?
16:00 <zombie67> not sure. But I would like to somehow see how my work is being split out between multiple sub-projects
16:01 <yoyo[RKN]> you mean in your personal stats?
16:01 <zombie67> maybe something on home.php with totals and rac for each?
16:01 <yoyo[RKN]> has any project such things
16:01 <zombie67> primegrid does
16:02 <PovAddict> pirates@home splits credits done by computing and credits from the mechanical turk
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16:04 <yoyo[RKN]> I will take care of it later, there is a lot before it on my list
16:04 <zombie67> cool
16:06 <zombie67> I think PG and RS export the sub-project information, which then allows 3rd parties to deal with showing the data.
16:06 <yoyo[RKN]> first comes credits, mac, maybe linux, maybe 64bit, automatic generation/sending of wus
16:07 <zombie67> look at my sig here: http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=765&nowrap=true#7372
16:08 <PovAddict> RieselSieve gives advanced stats as well
16:08 <PovAddict> hmm wonder how they do that
16:09 <zombie67> that is what I said, RS = RieselSieve ;)
16:09 <PovAddict> yep! it's exported separately
16:11 <yoyo[RKN]> seems that this is tracked in an own table
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16:12 <PovAddict> and here's bryanUC so we can ask about RS :)
16:12 <PovAddict> RS adds a <factors> tag to user.xml
16:12 <zombie67> also on #rielelsieve
16:14 <zombie67> #rieselsieve
16:14 <zombie67> here on this server
16:14 <PovAddict> I never remember if it's riesel or resiel
16:15 <PovAddict> or reisel
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16:27 <MTughan> quail: Still drunk?
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17:05 <yoyo[RKN]> any Tank_Master_ here, I need to refil
17:05 <PriitM_> o.0
17:05 <PriitM> 0.0
17:05 <MTughan> Refill what?
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17:05 <PovAddict> 0.o
17:06 <MTughan> o_O
17:06 <MTughan> I'm just going along with the flow...
17:06 <PriitM> :>
17:06 <wdsmia> right off the cliff
17:06 <yoyo[RKN]> hm
17:07 <MTughan> I'm not a sheep.
17:07 <yoyo[RKN]> ^-^
17:08 <PovAddict> 50 hrs left for the CPDN unit
17:08 <PovAddict> that machine had been off for a while...
17:09 <PovAddict> my uptime here is 23d 16h 58m
17:09 <MTughan> I'm up to 13d.
17:09 <MTughan> 14d, oops.
17:09 <PovAddict> my record is 27d
17:09 <PriitM> im up 8 minutes :/
17:09 <PovAddict> lols
17:09 <MTughan> Wonder what the uptime on a major server is?
17:10 <PovAddict> in years?
17:10 <PriitM> the webhosting companys i use have about 50-120 day uptimes
17:11 <PriitM> well this cheap and bad hosting company server has 135day uptime
17:16 <PriitM> test
17:16 <PovAddict> toast
17:16 <PriitM> beacon
17:17 <MTughan> Don't beacon to me.
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18:10 <MTughan> bbiab
18:12 <CoderForLife> k
18:13 <xcamel> re-hi
18:14 <xcamel> and feeling somewhat better today...
18:15 <wdsmia> Glad your feeling better Jay
18:16 <xcamel> no such ting as a 'standard cold' nowadays...
18:16 <efc> Moo
18:16 <wdsmia> *lo e
18:17 <xcamel> more like the 'mighty morphin power grodie'
18:17 <xcamel> 'lo E
18:17 <efc> I broke down, gonna get a 24" lcd
18:17 <wdsmia> It was the water Jay
18:18 <Romulus> that's because of drivers... getting GPGPU would be 1:10
18:18 <xcamel> watch out for nonstandard resolutions they're trying to pass of lately
18:18 <efc> 1920 x 1200 ?
18:18 <xcamel> nope.. was fine until I passed through Atlanta...
18:18 <PovAddict> the HD standard is 1920x1080
18:19 <PovAddict> on the 16:9 ratio
18:20 <xcamel> I just returned one that was 1680x1050 - a viewsonic no less.
18:20 <PovAddict> eww
18:20 <PovAddict> &math calc 1680/1050
18:20 <Romulus> PovAddict: 1.6
18:21 <efc> most of the 24s seem to be 1920 x 1200, 16:10
18:21 <xcamel> &math calc 16/9
18:21 <Romulus> xcamel: 1.77777777778
18:22 <xcamel> I want std pc resolutions first, then hd via another input
18:22 <PovAddict> yeah, thing is, a 1920 x 1200 (16:10) can fit 1920x1080 (16:9) with fairly small lines on top and bottom... xcamel's 1680x1050 resolution is *weird*
18:23 <PovAddict> hmmm actually 1680x1050 seems to be WSXGA+ which is standard
18:23 <PovAddict> or is it...
18:23 <PovAddict> "It is the widescreen version of SXGA+, but it is not approved by any organization. The next highest resolution (for widescreen) after it is WUXGA, which is 1920Ã—1200 pixels."
18:24 <efc> I wouldn't mind having one that can swivel to portrait for working on music, but its a big jump up in price
18:24 <PovAddict> bah
18:24 <PovAddict> just turn it 90Â° yourself and add some books or something to hold it :P
18:25 * CoderForLife finishes paying bills and looks back at #boinc
18:25 <efc> They have standard mounts, you could build an ok one
18:25 <zombie67> yoyo?
18:26 <zombie67> not here eh
18:27 <xcamel> it was this one:
18:27 <efc> There are some nice looking Dells (and other brands) with the swivel, but thats the top tier, around $600-700
18:27 <efc> I doubt they actually look twice as good as the ~$400 ones, but have not seem them side to side
18:28 <xcamel> the VX2435 is way better
18:29 <PovAddict> efc: twice the price for the ability to turn it to portrait is not worth it imho
18:29 <xcamel> my display here is still a VP201mb - now almost 5 years old and still sharp as a tack
18:29 <PovAddict> I have a samsung 19" LCD... I highly un-recommend samsung
18:29 <PovAddict> their dead pixel policy sucks
18:30 <PovAddict> mine has two pixels that don't show red (so white is cyan)
18:30 <efc> I was going to get the samsung 24 (i'm one click away), have two 17s and like them..
18:30 <xcamel> my samsung at work is dying...
18:30 <xcamel> 201T plasma
18:31 <efc> took a few weeks to psyche myself up this far..
18:31 <PovAddict> efc: for a 24" you can have up to TEN dead pixels and samsung considers it "normal" and won't change it
18:32 <efc> Yeah, but is that unusual? Most of them i've seen are 6, or so many in a certain area, stuck on vs stuck off, etc
18:32 <efc> Did you try giving the dead ones a light massage? I've heard that would work
18:33 <PovAddict> the limit for 19" is (if I understand this table correctly): 4 stuck pixels, 7 dead pixels, and no more than 1 group of two adjacent bad pixels
18:33 <PovAddict> mine has two adjacent pixels that don't show red
18:34 <PovAddict> I tried massage, and blinking colors at 60Hz on those pixels
18:34 <PovAddict> using a java applet that was intended for un-stucking pixels
18:34 <efc> I better go help mom.. bbl
18:46 <zombie67> I have a yoyo/evo task that is at 123% and still running
18:46 <PovAddict> 123%? lol
18:46 <xcamel> anyway the vx2435wm is the one I want for at work
18:46 <zombie67> ah! just finished
18:47 <zombie67> status pending, so at least it did not error out
18:47 <PriitM> as yes, i'm watching the a-team
18:49 <zombie67> I just bought a couple Q6600 to replace pentium Ds. Due to arrive mid next week
18:49 <CoderForLife> offen for the evening - a few more Christmas decorating things to do, then put the boxes away
18:49 <CoderForLife> cya
18:50 <zombie67> and of course, those machines just recently grabbed the last few tasks from seasonal attribution.
18:50 <zombie67> So now I have to wait!
18:51 <zombie67> I should break 200k at SA in the next day or two.
18:56 <zombie67> where is the up time stored in BOINC? I need to reset it.
18:57 <PovAddict> client_state.xml
18:57 <PovAddict> client_state/time_stats/on_frac
18:57 <zombie67> thanks!
18:58 <PovAddict> damn
18:58 <PovAddict> I was checking my client_state with 'less'
18:58 <PovAddict> and less locks the file
18:58 <PovAddict> got a "Couldn't write state file: system rename" from the client
18:58 <zombie67> never heard of less. heard of "more"
18:59 <zombie67> "Couldn't write state file: system rename": I get that all the time on my macs
18:59 <PovAddict> at least it doesn't cause any bad problems...
18:59 <PovAddict> it just retries later
18:59 <PovAddict> zombie67: less is an improved more
18:59 <zombie67> how better?
19:00 <PovAddict> bidirectional scrolling (horizontal too), searching with regex
19:00 <zombie67> ah
19:00 <zombie67> so, I just make on_fract 1?
19:00 <PovAddict> multiple files
19:00 <PovAddict> yeah
19:00 <zombie67> connect_fract says -1???
19:01 <PovAddict> that isn't used nor calculated atm
19:01 <zombie67> cpu effeciency?
19:01 <PovAddict> that is CPU time vs wall time
19:01 <zombie67> why would it not always be 1?
19:01 <zombie67> OS overhead?
19:02 <PovAddict> because BOINC isn't the only thing running on your computer :)
19:02 <PovAddict> mine is 0.96!
19:02 <zombie67> this is a laptop doing nothing else
19:03 <PovAddict> well, even the manager uses CPU
19:03 <PovAddict> OS overhead
19:03 <zombie67> lemme look at my mac
19:03 <PovAddict> the core client itself
19:03 <PovAddict> ...chatting...
19:03 <Romulus> hint: it was assigning you a winx64 app?
19:04 <PovAddict> particularly on mac, moving the mouse around on the dock can eat CPU :)
19:05 <zombie67> .91
19:05 <zombie67> but this is also the machine I do all my work work on, as well as all my personal stuff
19:07 <zombie67> I think I am about to get screwed out of a 1k result on ABC
19:07 <Romulus> Title: Workunit (at abcathome.com)
19:07 <zombie67> the first two aparrently don't match, so a third one going out. Mine is the only mac of the three.
19:07 <PovAddict> computer#22143 is having BAD problems
19:08 <PovAddict> ah yours :|
19:08 <zombie67> how so?
19:08 <PovAddict> lots of "No heartbeat from core client"
19:09 <zombie67> yeah
19:09 <zombie67> BOINC was locked up because my router was down for a while
19:09 <PovAddict> and yours took 24 hours of CPU time to finish
19:09 <PovAddict> the other guy took 7 hours
19:10 <PovAddict> with a wintel quad 2.6GHz
19:11 <PovAddict> it's possible that all the restarts corrupted the stats
19:11 <PovAddict> state*
19:11 <PovAddict> your output doesn't mention 'rounds'
19:12 <zombie67> it's not a quad
19:12 <PovAddict> actually it's different app versions too...
19:12 <zombie67> it's a Core Duo
19:12 <PovAddict> http://abcathome.com/show_host_detail.php?hostid=27726 "Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU"
19:13 <zombie67> wrong host
19:13 <PovAddict> that's yours
19:13 <zombie67> yes
19:13 <zombie67> it is a Core Duo
19:13 <MTughan> He was talking about the other persons machine.
19:13 <PovAddict> yours took 24 hours of CPU time to finish
19:13 <PovAddict> the other guy took 7 hours with a wintel quad 2.6GHz
19:14 <zombie67> right, it is a slower chip
19:14 <zombie67> mine is
19:14 <MTughan> Yeah, 2.6GHz compared to 2.16GHz. Doesn't explain a 17 hour difference.
19:14 <zombie67> more than that
19:15 <MTughan> Quad-core to dual-core doesn't matter.
19:15 <zombie67> 2.6 Core 2 Duo vs. 2.16 Core Duo
19:15 <zombie67> Core 2 is much faster than Core
19:15 <MTughan> Oh, C2D to CD... Still doesn't explain 17 hours.
19:15 <zombie67> no, not all of it.
19:15 <PovAddict> it was all his restarts...
19:15 <zombie67> Oh! The tre'es here. I have to go get it off the truck.
19:15 <zombie67> bbl
19:16 <MTughan> "Tre'es", or "tree's"?
19:16 <PovAddict> the app kills itself after 30 seconds of timeout waiting for the client heartbeat, without caring if it has checkpointed recently
19:16 <PovAddict> that might be a good addition actually...
19:17 <PovAddict> after 30 seconds of timeout, wait 30 more for the app to checkpoint
19:17 <PovAddict> many apps would checkpoint immediately (those that check can-i-checkpoint-now many times a second)
19:18 <MTughan> Like TSP?
19:18 <PovAddict> exactly
19:19 <MTughan> Do most apps do that?
19:20 <PovAddict> well, at least most get in a "ready to checkpoint" state *many* times per minute
19:20 <MTughan> My guess is that yoyo doesn't.
19:21 <PovAddict> no, yoyo ogr app uses a wrapper, so it can only "checkpoint" on every task
19:21 <PovAddict> it's split in separate tasks just to allow checkpoint and progress
19:21 <PovAddict> brb
19:21 <MTughan> Oh... I'm sitting here wondering why it's taking so long to charge up my laptop, and I have Bluetooth on!
19:22 <xcamel> lol
19:23 <PovAddict> wi-fi eats more
19:23 <MTughan> Yeah, but Bluetooth eats quite a bit too.
19:24 <MTughan> Enough to explain why my battery also depleted really fast on the bus home!
19:24 <MTughan> Actually, CPU takes more still.
19:24 <PovAddict> got boinc on while on battery?
19:24 <MTughan> No.
19:24 <MTughan> And that's why/
19:27 <MTughan> Yet, we still wonder how Apple coaxed 6 hours out of the battery. The best I can do with little to no CPU, no wireless, no Bluetooth, no USB, no speakers, is about 3.5 hours.
19:39 <MTughan> PovAddict: To see a white flash from a CD drive while it's burning is generally not a good sign, right?
19:39 <PovAddict> :|
19:39 <PovAddict> is it still burning?
19:39 <MTughan> smmagic in #wehatevista is having it.
19:39 <MTughan> Yes, still burning. 75% done.
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19:39 <PovAddict> tell him to get a fire extinguisher *before* he needs him
19:40 <PovAddict> err
19:40 <PovAddict> s/him$/it
19:41 <MTughan> Oh, and the computer's salvaged. :P
19:49 <MTughan> I think the burn finished... How, I have no idea. He left the room for a little while.
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19:52 * xcamel needs to find another cheap ait-3 drive
19:56 <PovAddict> I started reading the boinc api code, to see if I could add the try-to-checkpoint-before-dying feature easily
19:56 <MTughan> And it appears to be fine...
19:57 <PovAddict> I found something else that could be improved, patch posted :P
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20:21 <xcamel> small fixes are good fixes
20:23 <efc> They don't advertise the bits per pixel on LCDs much anymore
20:23 <wdsmia> Fix/upgrade=Take out known problems add brand new ones
20:24 <MTughan> 'lo Jay, e, Doug
20:24 <MTughan> lol Doug
20:24 <wdsmia> *lo Michael
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20:41 <quail> afternoon all
20:41 <MTughan> 'lo quail
20:42 <quail> how are we all?
20:42 * MTughan tortures Tank_Master with a small club (with a nail in it)
20:42 <MTughan> I feel like slapping Tank_Master...
20:42 * wdsmia slaps Tank_Master around a bit with a large trout
20:43 * MTughan blends Tank_Master with a nick named python script
20:45 <efc> moo Q
20:45 <PovAddict> Debugging: the process of replacing an existing bug by two new ones
20:47 * wdsmia slaps PovAddict around with 2 or 3 new bugs
20:50 <PovAddict> zombie67: how many 8-way machines do you have?
20:50 <wdsmia> too many
20:50 <MTughan> lol
20:50 <PovAddict> wdsmia: worrying about your rank? :)
20:52 * wdsmia has 100,320
20:52 <MTughan> I have two towers in Vector TD that do 460,000 damage...
20:52 <wdsmia> this week :P
20:55 <wdsmia> its off this week due to qmc mega wu's
20:59 <xcamel> qmc - 1,043,054 so far...
20:59 <wdsmia> Im moving up fast Jay
21:00 <xcamel> I dumped cosmo - it cost me 10 days downtime last week
21:00 <xcamel> knocked out everything
21:03 <wdsmia> Sh%$% Happens on Alpha projects
21:03 <xcamel> uh-huh
21:04 <PovAddict> you didn't have a backup project?
21:04 <xcamel> who?
21:04 <PovAddict> were you attached only to cosmo?
21:04 <xcamel> not hardly...the cosmo units would go wild and knock boinc core out
21:05 <PovAddict> ugh...
21:05 <MTughan> Nice...
21:05 <Romulus> sure, but I guess I have svn://bob.myisland.as but I'm in Denmark
21:05 <xcamel> not so nice
21:05 <PovAddict> I remember seeing that myself with my project
21:05 <PovAddict> workunit finished, and the core had a segfault
21:05 <PovAddict> every time
21:05 <MTughan> I'm assuming you figured it out.
21:05 <xcamel> basically...
21:06 <wdsmia> just like the one milkway wu I had stuck on download would not alow any other project to download
21:06 <PovAddict> turned out to be a bug on the client, stderr was going through sprintf, and I had some percentage signs on the log
21:06 <MTughan> lol
21:06 <MTughan> And sprintf was trying to parse them?
21:07 <PovAddict> %s reads a string... whatever junk was there got read as a pointer
21:07 <wdsmia> Idot proof programming
21:08 <PovAddict> or not...
21:09 <efc> scanf and forget it, its totally safe...
21:09 <PovAddict> suuuure efc
21:10 <MTughan> Why the f*** was it trying to access my local network...
21:12 <wdsmia> you must have loaded that new boinc project keyclicker@home
21:12 <MTughan> Who, me?
21:13 <wdsmia> j/k lol
21:13 <MTughan> No, the webpage came up with a password dialog for a machine on my network.
21:13 <xcamel> %B%Ikeyclicker@home%I%B
21:13 <xcamel> well... that didn't work...
21:13 <MTughan> keyclicker@home you mean?
21:14 <xcamel> keylogger@home
21:14 <xcamel> keylogger@home
21:15 <xcamel> anyway...
21:15 <MTughan> What is keylogger@home?
21:15 <wdsmia> your_screwed@home
21:16 <efc> microsoft dotbotnet
21:16 <MTughan> So it's actually a keylogger?
21:16 <PovAddict> no he's messing with you
21:19 <wdsmia> Hey MTughan look up
21:19 <MTughan> It's a ceiling.
21:19 <wdsmia> lol
21:25 <xcamel> friggin snowing out again...
21:26 <xcamel> Knock it off, Mike
21:26 <MTughan> What?!
21:26 <efc> Send some of that down here
21:26 <xcamel> Ontario dandruff storm...
21:26 <MTughan> &weather Toronto
21:26 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 23Â°F / -5Â°C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 30.40in / 1030hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 2mph / 4km/h | Updated: 9:00 PM EST; Tonight - Cloudy periods. Low -9C(15F) with temperature rising to -3C(26F) by morning.; Saturday - Becoming cloudy. 30 percent chance of flurries late in the morning and in the afternoon. Wind becoming southwest 30 km/h (19 mph) gusting (1 more message)
21:26 <MTughan> &more
21:26 <Romulus> MTughan: to 50 km/h (31 mph) in the afternoon. High 1C(34F). Saturday night cloudy periods. 30 percent chance of flurries in the evening. Wind west 30 km/h (19 mph) gusting to 50 km/h (31 mph). Low -2C(28F).; Sunday - A mix of sun and cloud. High 5C(41F).;
21:26 <xcamel> it's all your fault.
21:26 <PovAddict> "rising to -3C" sounds strange :P
21:26 <xcamel> too many frigid women in canada...
21:27 <MTughan> You complain, it's friggin cold here.
21:27 <xcamel> -4C here...
21:27 <MTughan> Seasonal is about 4C here.
21:28 <xcamel> more like light lake effect squalls
21:30 <wdsmia> &weather 50265
21:30 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 27°F / -3°C | Humidity: 75% | Pressure: 30.32in / 1027hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening then becoming cloudy. Scattered flurries after midnight. Low in the mid 20s. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Cloudy with a 20 percent chance of snow in the morning... then partly sunny in the afternoon. High in (1 more message)
21:30 <wdsmia> &more
21:30 <Romulus> wdsmia: the upper 30s. Southwest wind 10 to 15 mph with gusts to around 30 mph.; Saturday Night - Partly cloudy. Low in the lower 20s. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph.;
21:31 <MTughan> Not bad... About the same as us.
21:33 <wdsmia> that just because CA blows and mex sucks
21:33 * wdsmia asks the room to please watch there language… Thanks, your friendly channel op
21:34 <MTughan> lol, you tripped your own script.
21:34 <xcamel> hoisted by your own petards...
21:34 <MTughan> "Sucks"?
21:34 <wdsmia> script doesnt trigger on my posts
21:35 <MTughan> What is it then?
21:35 <Romulus> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.17-11-generic | Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz 3224.096 MHz Bogomips: 12563.34 Mem: 483/1012M [||||||||||] HDD: 372.07G/644.11GGB [||||||||||] Up: 1 day
21:35 <wdsmia> tell him rommie
21:36 <MTughan> lol... quail, is that from you?
21:37 <wdsmia> quail is at the beach or i would be if I was him
21:37 <MTughan> Where is he?
21:39 <wdsmia> AU :P
21:39 <MTughan> Nice!
21:42 <wdsmia> &seen TheGasGiant
21:42 <Romulus> wdsmia: TheGasGiant was last seen in #boinc 2 weeks, 5 days, 20 hours, 31 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <TheGasGiant> &bye freelarry
21:45 <quail> wdsmia: no beach for me ;-P
21:45 <wdsmia> lol wb
21:45 <quail> thanks
21:46 <quail> &weather ypad
21:46 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 68Â°F / 20Â°C | Humidity: 60% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h | Updated: 1:00 PM CST; Clear. High:75 ° F. / 24 ° C.; Clear. Low:53 ° F. / 12 ° C.; Clear. High:78 ° F. / 26 ° C.; Clear. Low:53 ° F. / 12 ° C.; Clear. High:82 ° F. / 28 ° C.; Clear. Low:55 ° F. / 13 ° C.;
21:48 <wdsmia> Ruby says hi to all her relatives down there
21:49 <xcamel> &weather MMLP
21:49 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 68Â°F / 20Â°C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 29.88in / 1012hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 6:46 PM MST; Clear. High:78 ° F. / 26 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:57 ° F. / 14 ° C.; Clear. High:84 ° F. / 29 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:55 ° F. / 13 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. High:77 ° F. / 25 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:55 ° F. / 13 ° C.;
21:49 <xcamel> pretty close
21:49 <quail> "The secret to immortality is to live a life worth remembering." - Bruce Lee
21:50 * quail passes on the greetings :-P
21:51 <wdsmia> If I had to live my life again, I'd make the same mistakes, only sooner.
21:51 <wdsmia> Tallulah Bankhead
21:54 <xcamel> quotebotXL
21:54 <xcamel> :-/
21:58 <xcamel> laterz...
21:59 <MTughan> Bye.
21:59 <wdsmia> cya
21:59 <quail> bye
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22:56 <wdsmia> &ping
22:56 <Romulus> pong
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22:56 <MTughan> 'lo mweltin
22:57 <mweltin> MTughan, how ya do'n
22:57 <MTughan> Pretty good.
22:57 <wdsmia> how goes the war mweltin
22:58 <mweltin> well, I sent pipin (the original owner) a message saying that Molf is just trying to make you mad, and that you should just move on and focus your energy on more positive things.
22:59 <PovAddict> and wasting your time with team crap when you should be CODING
22:59 <mweltin> I pointed out how his team is ranked 9th on some world stat page, and that is something to be very proud of, and I doubt anyone will confuse Planet3dnow with plantet3dNever.
23:00 <mweltin> tell me about it, I'm still not sure why some times the bestPath is not filled in.
23:00 <Romulus> Title: Changeset 14294 - BOINC - Trac (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
23:00 <Romulus> Title: man sysadmin (at www.bofh.net)
23:00 <PovAddict> bofh \o/
23:01 <PovAddict> mweltin: just upgrade...
23:01 <mweltin> bofh is great
23:01 <mweltin> just an svn update?
23:02 <mweltin> Jord suggests not ot upgrade everything
23:02 <PovAddict> why
23:02 <mweltin> We're reasonably stable at revision 14246 at Enigma, but TJM just added 14292 to the test server tonight and it toppled over with lots of fatal errors.
23:03 <PovAddict> mostly new forum crap...
23:03 <mweltin> what is the syntax for and svn update of a specific version?
23:03 <mweltin> -r####
23:03 <mweltin> ?
23:03 <PovAddict> if you update to any version, you get all the changes from previous versions, naturally...
23:03 <MTughan> You mean to get a specific revision?
23:04 <mweltin> yeah I assume 14294 refers to a revision number.
23:04 <MTughan> It does.
23:04 <PovAddict> that's the latest anyway
23:04 <PovAddict> it would be the same to do 'svn update'
23:05 <MTughan> But if you don't want the latest, it is -r #####.
23:05 <MTughan> Notice the space there.
23:05 <mweltin> so I should run the update from $PROJ_ROOT/html/user ?
23:05 <PovAddict> no, from your boinc working copy
23:05 <PovAddict> if you don't have it anymore, checkout again
23:06 <mweltin> I still have it
23:06 <MTughan> Then update there.
23:06 <MTughan> That was probably unneeded, but I said it.
23:07 <mweltin> I'd rather not do the entire thing, takes a long time. Also I'm not sure how that change will be reflected in my project?
23:07 <PovAddict> what takes a long time?
23:08 <mweltin> update of the boinc source working copy.
23:08 <MTughan> Update/checkout. Remember his internet?
23:08 <PovAddict> svn update only gets changes
23:08 <mweltin> I just did the html dir in the working copy.
23:08 <mweltin> ok I'm doing the entire thing.
23:08 <mweltin> but I still don't see how this will effect my $PROJECT_ROOT/html dir.
23:09 <PovAddict> running the upgrade script
23:09 <mweltin> ahhh
23:11 <mweltin> so wdsmia I told the guy if he stll wants to press the name issue I would contact David Anderson and so what he suggests, but I'd rather he drop the issue, and I have not heard back from him yet.
23:12 <mweltin> does it matter where I run the upgrade script from?
23:12 <PovAddict> well it's on the 'tools' directory
23:12 <PovAddict> working directory doesn't matter, afaik
23:12 <mweltin> yes, I found it, but I was curious if I needed to be there or what.
23:12 <mweltin> ok
23:12 <mweltin> thanks
23:12 <Romulus> Title: ToolUpgrade - BOINC - Trac (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
23:13 <Romulus> Don't ask why I Code my own GUI, I can't hear bad language hurts my lungs to run off to w#$%
23:15 <PovAddict> that wiki page needs some work...
23:15 <mweltin> This brings up a good point, a while back there was a good discussion about making changes to the database.
23:15 <PovAddict> for efficiency, yes
23:15 <mweltin> is there a wiki page about different types of upgrades.
23:16 <PovAddict> that database changes never went to anything more than just discussion
23:16 <mweltin> this upgrade will not effect my database stucture.
23:16 <mweltin> mmm it sounded like a real good idea.
23:17 <mweltin> You may need to do database upgrades also.
23:17 <mweltin> that was from SDTOUT of hte upgrade scirpt.
23:17 <PovAddict> yeah like adding new fields
23:18 <PovAddict> have you ever run the db_upgrade thing?
23:18 <mweltin> no, this was the first upgrade ever. It doesn't look liek the db_upgrade is in my task list either (config.xml)
23:18 <PovAddict> wait, any idea how old the code was before?
23:18 <PovAddict> no. db upgrade is always run manually
23:19 <PovAddict> what revision did you have before upgrade?
23:19 <mweltin> I started doing this 2 months ago.
23:19 <mweltin> I had the server 6 code I think, but hte old client code
23:20 <PovAddict> no idea what rev. you had before?
23:20 <PovAddict> enter mysql prompt
23:20 <mweltin> no, but as with all upgrades what it was going to fix it didn't , and it broke some stuff.
23:21 <mweltin> Jord suggested it for the big pictures in the UOTD area.
23:21 <PovAddict> I see no big pics on UOTD
23:21 <mweltin> that remains, and now two links are broken
23:21 <PovAddict> well forum is broken until you do the db upgrades
23:21 <mweltin> for tsp
23:21 <mweltin> have not even looked there yet
23:22 <PovAddict> enter mysql prompt
23:22 <mweltin> good advice " Don't run this unless you know what you're doing!"
23:22 <PovAddict> what says that?
23:23 <MTughan> sudo?
23:23 <mweltin> db_update
23:23 <mweltin> .php
23:23 <mweltin> ok I have a mysql prompt.
23:23 <PovAddict> do 'show tables;' and see if you have a 'team_delta' table
23:23 <mweltin> yes
23:24 <mweltin> that table is there.
23:24 <PovAddict> ok, next change...
23:24 <PovAddict> describe table team;
23:25 <mweltin> ok
23:25 <PovAddict> what's the type of the 'ping_user' column?
23:25 <mweltin> int 11
23:25 <PovAddict> signed or unsigned?
23:25 <PovAddict> I think it should say...
23:26 <mweltin> dosen't say so my guess is signed.
23:26 <mweltin> ping time is unsigned.
23:26 <mweltin> are you checking to see if I have to run the db_update.php ?
23:27 <PovAddict> I'm checking to see what changes you need to apply
23:27 <PovAddict> what type is the description field on tem?
23:27 <PovAddict> team*
23:27 <mweltin> blob
23:27 <PovAddict> got it then
23:28 <PovAddict> you need all db updates starting on update_9_28_2007()
23:29 <mweltin> ok, there are no comments in the db_update.php file that explain how to use it.
23:29 <PovAddict> ok hold on
23:29 <mweltin> for example how dose it know what database to use?
23:29 <mweltin> or did that get updated by the upgrade script, and I run that from my $PROJ_ROOT
23:30 <PovAddict> edit the script, go to the end
23:30 <mweltin> in PROJ_ROOT or boinc_working_copy ?
23:30 <PovAddict> in tsp/html/ops/db_upgrade.php
23:31 <PovAddict> so, project
23:31 <mweltin> ok
23:31 <PovAddict> see that commented out update_11_14_2007() call at the very end?
23:31 <mweltin> yes
23:31 <PovAddict> well, there you need to call all updates starting on update_9_28_2007()
23:32 <Romulus> Title: Nopaste - No description (at rafb.net)
23:32 <PovAddict> fairly ready to paste there
23:32 <mweltin> ok
23:32 <PovAddict> so, add that to the end of the file, then run it from the command line
23:33 <mweltin> so in the future how am I supposed to know what to add?
23:33 <PovAddict> remember what's the last that run...
23:33 <MTughan> Yeah, it's not exactly user friendly.
23:34 <mweltin> yeah, not exactly.
23:34 <mweltin> close
23:34 <PovAddict> you do the ./upgrade, then look at db_update.php and see... if there is any update you don't remember seeing before
23:34 <PovAddict> o.0
23:35 <mweltin> ok
23:35 <mweltin> cool, I can do that.
23:38 <mweltin> home page is still broke.
23:39 <MTughan> Nice...
23:39 <PovAddict> complaints > boinc_projects
23:39 <MTughan> You also misspelled crunch3r on the home page news.
23:39 <MTughan> "curnch3r"
23:39 <PovAddict> and I'm still twice \o/
23:40 <mweltin> yeah, I'll fix that later, right now the other errors are more my focus
23:40 <mweltin> you are that good PovAddict
23:40 <MTughan> Those are just missing localizations.
23:40 <mweltin> you should get double billing.
23:41 <MTughan> What are the two lines mentioned in the PHP notices?
23:41 <MTughan> 32 and 48.
23:41 <PovAddict> can't tell - his index.php is obviously customized
23:41 <mweltin> .tr(RULES_TITLE)
23:42 <mweltin> .tr(APPS_TITLE)
23:42 <MTughan> .tr(APPS_TITLE)
23:42 <MTughan> What's .tr()?
23:42 <mweltin> some tr function
23:42 <PovAddict> translation
23:42 <mweltin> I didnt' write it.
23:42 <PovAddict> mweltin: try deleting html/languages/last_compile_timer
23:42 <MTughan> Okay, so it is a missing translation then.
23:42 <MTughan> Well, localization issue.
23:42 <mweltin> I tried that already
23:44 <mweltin> just tried it again to make sure but no change
23:44 <PovAddict> complaints > boinc_projects
23:56 <MTughan> Holy crap... A 32GB USB flash drive!
23:56 <MTughan> $300CDN, but it exists...
23:56 <PovAddict> :o!
23:57 <MTughan> Rather ugly colour in my opinion...
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23:58 <MTughan> And what does 150X speed mean?
23:58 <PovAddict> I think it's CD rates
23:58 <MTughan> ...
23:58 <PovAddict> the same unit used for CD and CD drive speeds
23:58 <MTughan> What about DVDs?
23:59 <PovAddict> DVDs use a different unit
23:59 <MTughan> Yeah.
23:59 <Romulus> Title: Welcome to Corsair :: Flash Padlock Product Information (at www.corsair.com)