IRC logs of #boinc for Saturday, 2007-11-24

00:04 <MTughan> Hehe... New CAD.

00:04 <PovAddict> the title already was awesome

00:05 <MTughan> "Will it Blend"

00:05 <PovAddict> your blender asplode

00:05 <MTughan> lol

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00:11 <MTughan> Well, I'm off to bed.

00:11 <MTughan> &nn all

00:11 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

00:17 <mweltin> later MacG_

00:17 <mweltin> MTughan,

00:30 <efc> Anybody ever actually seen a TN panel up against a PVA ?

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00:32 <BadBarbarian> evening all

00:33 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86023

00:33 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 14F / -10C | Humidity: 62% | Pressure: 30.07in / 1018hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 13 on the North Rim to around 31 along the Colorado River. North winds around 15 mph early in the evening becoming light.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Highs around 36 on the North Rim to around 56 along the Colorado (1 more message)

00:33 <BadBarbarian> &more

00:33 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: River. Northeast winds 15 to 20 mph.; Saturday Night - Mostly clear. Lows around 13 on the North Rim to around 31 along the Colorado River. Northeast winds around 15 mph early in the evening becoming light.;

00:33 <efc> moo BB

00:37 <efc> Sounds pretty but cold

00:43 <BadBarbarian> it is

00:43 <BadBarbarian> not 11pm yet it will be below 0 before sunrise

00:45 <BadBarbarian> 86023 is grand canyon airport if i use williams az 86046 the temp is always 10 to 15 degrees higher than here at the house lol

00:45 <mweltin> lets see the coldest its been here is mmmm 74 I think in the last 6 months

00:45 <mweltin> &weather 96799

00:45 <Romulus> mweltin: Temperature: 75F / 24C | Humidity: 66% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 18mph / 30km/h ; Today - Occasional showers with isolated thunderstorms. Highs in the mid 80s. Variable winds 10 mph...with higher gusts in showers.; Tonight and Thursday - Scattered showers with isolated thunderstorms. Lows near 80. High near 90. Variable winds 10 (1 more message)

00:46 <BadBarbarian> i wish

00:46 <BadBarbarian> you in fla

00:47 <mweltin> American Samoa

00:47 <BadBarbarian> thats tropical i belive lol

00:48 <mweltin> yeah, 14 degrees south.

00:49 <BadBarbarian> southern hemi ?

00:49 <mweltin> yeah

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00:52 <BadBarbarian> got you on google earth lol

00:52 <efc> I guess I wouldn't mind living in a bit colder place..

00:52 <efc> rarely snows here, doesn't even freeze that often

00:53 <BadBarbarian> wish we could get some snow god knows we need the water

00:53 <efc> same here. endless feet behind

00:54 <BadBarbarian> we have had a total of 2 inches of rain this year

00:55 <BadBarbarian> lol in the closet getting down my grandmothers quilt for the bed

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00:55 <efc> Colorodo or .. ?

00:56 <BadBarbarian> northern arizona

00:56 <efc> I'm just about done getting the maps for Carbon County, WY. Huge.

01:04 <BadBarbarian> night all got to get up early

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01:21 <mweltin> PovAddict, you here?

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01:38 <efc> Down to 39 F outside, had to kick on another P3

01:40 <mweltin> lol

01:47 <mweltin> anyone here run TSP and have a 64 bit windows box?

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02:13 <yoyo[RKN]> morning

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02:36 <mweltin> yoyo

02:36 <yoyo[RKN]> ?

02:36 <mweltin> do you hvae a win 64 bit box?

02:36 <yoyo[RKN]> no

02:36 <mweltin> ok

02:46 <quail> g'evening all, how are we all?

02:50 <yoyo[RKN]> hehe its morning 08:51am

02:56 <efc2> moo

02:57 <Romulus> Ah. I thought about commenting on that box anymore

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03:37 <mweltin> hwo is the dual app coming along yoyo?

03:40 <yoyo[RKN]> runs smoothly

03:40 <yoyo[RKN]> have to think about validator and credits

03:40 <yoyo[RKN]> my problem is now the feeder

03:40 <yoyo[RKN]> I need to provide a mix of workunits fo both apps

03:41 <yoyo[RKN]> with which options do you run the feeder mweltin

03:46 <mweltin> just the normal -d 3

03:46 <yoyo[RKN]> I use -priority_order_create_time

03:47 <mweltin> I saw your post about having hte assimilator with the same name.

03:47 <mweltin> what does that switch do?

03:47 <yoyo[RKN]> it feeds higher priorities first

03:48 <yoyo[RKN]> otherwise it feeds oldest tasks first

03:48 <mweltin> how are WU's getting the priority to begin with?

03:48 <yoyo[RKN]> default prio is0, you can set priotity when you create the wu

03:49 <mweltin> create_work has a priority switch?

03:49 <yoyo[RKN]> yes

03:49 <mweltin> zombie67 has 35,437 credits from TSP alone.

03:50 <mweltin> wait

03:50 <yoyo[RKN]> with his computer farm

03:50 <mweltin> sorry 11,675 from tsp

03:51 <mweltin> the other is his total

03:52 <mweltin> you have 83.9

03:52 <yoyo[RKN]> ;)

03:52 <mweltin> but you are host number 6

03:53 <mweltin> that is awesome!

03:53 <mweltin> you were one of the first to sign up for tsp.  thank you.

03:53 <yoyo[RKN]> jup

03:54 <yoyo[RKN]> I'm one of the guys who find new projects early

03:54 <mweltin> of course I'm number one and two.

03:54 <mweltin> I honestly thought I would only have myself and a few friends sign up for this.

03:54 <mweltin> now I have 100's of people

03:55 <mweltin> boinc is wonderful.

03:55 <yoyo[RKN]> yes

03:55 <yoyo[RKN]> my teamID is 2 ;)

03:56 <mweltin> nice

03:56 <mweltin> I wonder who is 1.

03:57 <mweltin> you have three boxes, and one is  a linux 64 dual core. mmmmmmmmmmmm dual core.

03:57 <yoyo[RKN]> saenger of seti.germany foundet team nr. 1

03:57 <mweltin> sorry

03:57 <yoyo[RKN]> must be wrong

03:58 <mweltin> on my your are number 3 user id.

03:59 <mweltin> wow you are the first one after me, so technically you are the first person to sign up for tsp.

03:59 <mweltin> one XP box.

03:59 <mweltin> 1.6 GHz

03:59 <yoyo[RKN]> laptop

04:00 <mweltin> where are you in Germany?

04:00 <mweltin> I think you told me once but I forget.

04:00 <yoyo[RKN]> I think I saw your mail in boinc_projects, attached to tsp and wrote you an email

04:00 <yoyo[RKN]> <--- Berlin

04:00 <mweltin> ahhh I never went to Berlin.

04:01 <mweltin> I lived in Kolen for a year, when I was much younger.

04:01 <mweltin> I was 12 or 13 years old.

04:01 <mweltin> Germany was beautiful.

04:01 <yoyo[RKN]> but it's not ver warm currently here

04:01 <yoyo[RKN]> !weather berlin

04:02 <mweltin> very nice place.

04:02 <yoyo[RKN]> &weather berlin

04:02 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 37°F / 3°C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1022hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h | Updated: 9:50 AM CET; Scattered Clouds. High:39 F. / 4 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:30 F. / -1 C.; Chance of Rain. High:42 F. / 6 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:32 F. / 0 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:37 F. / 3 C.; Clear. Low:28 F. / -2 (1 more message)

04:02 <mweltin> LOL high of 3 degrees LOL

04:02 <mweltin> &weather 96799

04:02 <Romulus> mweltin: Temperature: 74F / 23C | Humidity: 64% | Pressure: 30.16in / 1021hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 17mph / 28km/h ; Today - Occasional showers with isolated thunderstorms. Highs in the mid 80s. Variable winds 10 mph...with higher gusts in showers.; Tonight and Thursday - Scattered showers with isolated thunderstorms. Lows near 80. High near 90. Variable winds 10 mph.; (1 more message)

04:02 <yoyo[RKN]> much better

04:03 <mweltin> yes

04:03 <mweltin> every day you wake up and its nice.  Maybe some rain, but still nice.

04:08 <mweltin> tomorrow I'm going to go diving with some people who have never been diving before.

04:08 <mweltin> that should be fun.

04:12 <yoyo[RKN]> hehe

04:12 <yoyo[RKN]> i never did it

04:12 <mweltin> its not for everyone

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04:30 <mweltin> yoyo[RKN],  have you used mingW?

04:30 <mweltin> what do you use to build your windows apps for your project?

04:30 <Romulus> seemed like an executive rather than GB/month limits

04:31 <mweltin> stuff it rommie

04:33 <efc2> I should really quit asking for advice

04:33 <mweltin> why?

04:34 <efc2> increases indecision

04:34 <mweltin> maybe you should decrese who you ask for advice.

04:34 <efc2> yeah

04:34 <mweltin> decrease the number of people you ask for advice from is what I mean.

04:34 <mweltin> PovAddict, is a good one to ask for advice.

04:35 <efc2> well..

04:35 <efc2> i spend 8 hours reading stupid LCD reviews. Now all the vendors are sold out, so it really doesn't matter.

04:36 <mweltin> ahhh you wan't non-boinc advice sorry I just assumed you needed boinc advice.

04:37 <mweltin> did you try #lcd I'm always shocked about what irc channels there are on freenode.

04:37 <efc2> It doesn't matter now

04:38 <mweltin> sorry

04:38 <efc2> I got this same result trying to decide on a car

04:38 <mweltin> what kind of car did you get?

04:38 <efc2> None

04:38 <mweltin> hahaha

04:38 <mweltin> no lcd no car you sound like me.

04:38 <efc2> Everything that I could want is considered junk by somebody

04:39 <efc2> It'll be more $$ for the church and the govt when I'm gone

04:39 <mweltin> even a low rider, with fuzzy dice, a dash baord of shag rug, and sweet paint blue flame paint job?!?!?!!?

04:40 <efc2> Now that sounds hot

04:41 <mweltin> yeah thats what I thought, but I can't seem to sell my GF on it.  Doesn't matter she has no taste when it comes to cars anyway.

04:42 <efc2> I wanted a mustang

04:42 <mweltin> I'm not sure if I want to go al ghetto and get a cutlas, or pimp out a caddy.

04:42 <quail> can anyone tell me if this url has propagated and working please >>>

04:42 <efc2> still the only thing i really want

04:42 <efc2> not working quail

04:42 <mweltin> about me tv

04:42 <mweltin> worked for me.

04:43 <efc2> Way too late, night

04:43 <mweltin> of course it should read it's tv for my computer not me computer

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04:44 <mweltin> and if I'm telling you about grammar you have a real problem.

04:44 <mweltin> cause I don't know anything about spelling or grammar.

04:45 <mweltin> ahhhh Why Me TV?

04:45 <mweltin> I'd lead with that.

04:48 <CoderForLife> morning

04:48 <mweltin> cfl!

04:48 <mweltin> how goes it

04:48 <mweltin> do you have a 64bit windows box on TSP?

04:49 <CoderForLife> just woke up - so far so good

04:49 <CoderForLife> um, no and no

04:50 <mweltin> ok

04:50 <mweltin> just curious.

04:52 <CoderForLife> s'ok

04:53 <CoderForLife> do you have a 2001 black Honda Accord?

04:53 <mweltin> no, why do you ask?

04:54 <CoderForLife> "just curious" =)

04:54 <mweltin> LOL

04:55 <mweltin> I was just talking efc2 into buying a low rider, with a fuzzy dice, shag rug dash board, and a blue flame paint job.

04:56 <freelarry> don't forget the neon blue undercarrage lights ;)

04:57 <mweltin> no way we are going for vintage 70's

04:57 <freelarry> that was 80's

04:57 <mweltin> ghetto with a cutlas, none of this pimp my ride bs.

04:58 <freelarry> didn't say a 52" flatscreen tv for a mapguide

04:58 * freelarry cripes what size alternator would it take to power that

04:59 <mweltin> mini fusion reactor in the trunk should take care of all you power needs.

05:02 <CoderForLife> speaking of power requirements, we got our new wreath put up yesterday

05:02 <CoderForLife>

05:02 <mweltin> love the domain name

05:03 <CoderForLife> "it's for sale..."  =)

05:03 <CoderForLife> my defunct software company

05:03 <CoderForLife> but it may rise again

05:04 <CoderForLife> we used kite string rather than wire to suspend the wreath

05:04 <mweltin> it's cool, with the notable exception that you are not signed up for my project.

05:05 <mweltin> is that a dog wood twig to the left?

05:05 * CoderForLife counts the number of projects he's signed up for in life

05:05 <Romulus> that's ok too, but I think I was doing that

05:05 <CoderForLife> look at wreath2.JPG - 2 dogwoods on the front of the house

05:06 <CoderForLife> and pics like those make me want to take a whack at the leaning lamppost

05:07 <mweltin> you live in new england or something?

05:07 <CoderForLife> nope, Cincinnati, Ohio

05:09 <CoderForLife> we'll put lights on the bushes and trees today

05:09 <mweltin> nice job on the wreath.

05:09 <CoderForLife> thanks - we were pretty proud of it - the mix of red and white lights is very pretty

05:10 <CoderForLife> we bought the wreath last year after Christmas for about 75% off

05:10 <CoderForLife> I had to buy 250lb test kite string to be able to hoist it up and hold it

05:11 <mweltin> yeah, it's a little hard for me to get into the spirit yet.  I'm in American Samoa, although some guy has a HUGE red star in his lawn, and our neighbors have a whole light show.

05:11 <mweltin> I tihnk its the palm trees that kill the mood for me.

05:11 <CoderForLife> lol

05:11 <CoderForLife> have to build sandmen rather than snowmen

05:12 <mweltin> yeah

05:12 <CoderForLife> breakfast time - brb

05:13 <mweltin> I'm out too its 11:30pm almost

05:13 <mweltin> later

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05:30 <CoderForLife> back

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05:49 <CoderForLife> bbiab

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07:03 <quail> can anyone tell me if this url has propagated and working please >>>

07:03 <Romulus> Title: Me TV, it's TV for me computer (at

07:04 <quail> well it looks like it got to rommie

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07:35 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86023

07:35 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 29F / -2C | Humidity: 32% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 16mph / 26km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs around 36 on the North Rim to around 58 along the Colorado River. Light winds becoming northeast around 15 mph with gusts to around 30 mph in the afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 18 on the North Rim to around 35 (1 more message)

07:35 <BadBarbarian> &more

07:35 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Sunday - Mostly sunny in the morning then becoming partly cloudy. Highs around 42 on the North Rim to around 60 along the Colorado River. Light winds.;

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07:43 <quail> &weather ypad

07:43 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 59°F / 15°C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1022hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 11:00 PM CST; Clear. High:78 F. / 26 C.; Clear. Low:55 F. / 13 C.; Clear. High:80 F. / 27 C.; Clear. Low:53 F. / 12 C.; Clear. High:82 F. / 28 C.; Clear. Low:60 F. / 16 C.;

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08:08 <xcamel> &weather 12074

08:08 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 10.6F / -11.9C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 30.45in / 1031.0hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Cold with highs in the upper 30s. West winds around 5 mph...becoming south this afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the mid 20s. South winds 5 to 10 mph.; Sunday - Mostly sunny. Not as cool with highs in the upper 40s. (1 more message)

08:09 <Romulus> shall I reinstall BOINC or something of quitting mailing list thing from, but also editing and cutting torch

08:09 <xcamel> Temperature: 10.6°F / -11.9°C

08:10 <quail> YAY howard is out

08:11 <quail> sorry we had an election here today

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08:22 <xcamel> so with howard out, and labour in, you'll go back to being more like GB - taxed to death and getting nothing for it.

08:27 <Soul_keeper> hmmm

08:29 <xcamel>

08:29 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2007 November 24 - Galaxies in Pegasus (at

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08:36 <quail> xcamel: interest rates have gone up 6 time since liberals have been in seat

08:37 <Soul_keeper> heh

08:37 <quail> Rudd I think is going to do a good job

08:38 <CoderForLife> morning - #boinc mavens and Howard-Haters

08:39 <CoderForLife> I'm baaaack from the store

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08:40 <quail> CoderForLife: Hi Don, how are you mate?

08:40 <CoderForLife> richer in groceries, poorer in cash

08:40 <xcamel> 'lo Don

08:40 <quail> CoderForLife: I am hosting another sit tonight

08:40 <CoderForLife> hello Jay - a frosty good morning

08:40 <xcamel> frosty indeed

08:41 <quail> CoderForLife: this the site I am hosting >>>  <<< which is the project I am involved with

08:41 <Romulus> Title: Me TV, it's TV for me computer (at

08:41 <CoderForLife> seems like it's nothing anymore to drop $160+ at the grocery store weekly

08:41 <quail> and I have set up a repository for it tonight as well

08:42 <CoderForLife> sometimes $200+

08:42 <CoderForLife> so Me TV is all about you?

08:44 <CoderForLife> brb  -  change of clothes

08:44 <quail> CoderForLife: no

08:44 <Romulus> Currently Playing: Kenny Loggins - Danger Zone at 128kbps [0:32 of 4:14]

08:44 <quail> CoderForLife: it just a project I am involved with

08:45 <quail> congrats rommie, enjoy your listenings

08:47 <CoderForLife> oh

08:48 * CoderForLife turns up the volume knob on Rommie

08:48 <quail> CoderForLife: i am not a C++ coder yet, but a damn good hacker

08:48 <CoderForLife> what's the difference?

08:49 <quail> I see code but never taught to program

08:51 * CoderForLife records the morning expenses in MS(ugh) Money

08:54 <quail> hehe

08:54 <quail> sucker :-P

08:55 <CoderForLife> I used MacMoney, then switched to Quicken in about 1995, and then to Money in about 2000

08:58 <CoderForLife> did you see the pic of our wreath we put up yesterday?

08:59 <Romulus> i was just confused because there is a return to normal

08:59 <CoderForLife> right, Rommie, we had a smaller wreath up last year

09:00 <CoderForLife> we bought this wreath after Christmas for 75% off

09:00 <CoderForLife> bought it from Hader Hardware, a smaller local version of a Curtis store

09:03 <xcamel> good for you.. support your local small business...

09:05 <CoderForLife> Hader is slowly retreating in the face of the Big Boys - I think they're down to 5 stores now

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09:05 <xcamel> too bad..

09:05 <xcamel> failure to differentiate..

09:06 <xcamel> picture of wreath?

09:06 <CoderForLife> ah

09:06 <CoderForLife>

09:07 <xcamel> very nice...

09:07 <xcamel> I thought sure you'd ask me about the "clock"

09:07 <CoderForLife> used wire last year to hoist the smaller wreath, but that was difficult - used 250lb test kite string this year

09:07 <CoderForLife> I was going to ask you about the clock =)

09:08 <CoderForLife> lemme look at the clock again...

09:08 <CoderForLife> also wreath1.JPG and wreath2.JPG

09:10 * CoderForLife tiptoes past the spider to the clock

09:10 <CoderForLife> I recgonize the reflection of the guy in the ball cap =)

09:11 <CoderForLife> your clock?

09:11 <CoderForLife> radio sync?

09:11 <Romulus> lol yup you close BOINC completely and restart

09:12 <CoderForLife> sounds like Windoze, Rommie

09:13 * CoderForLife wishes Chase Bank would wake up their data download link so he can update his records

09:14 <CoderForLife> brb

09:14 <xcamel> yup - wwvb powered - and gets a good signal down there..

09:18 <xcamel> 1085 miles (LOS) from Boulder, CO.

09:21 <quail> CoderForLife: nice wreath :-)

09:21 <quail> there is alot RF in the air at

09:22 <quail> and I am surised it not drop my wifi link

09:23 * quail goes back to his WWII wireless set and morses some more for a contact

09:23 <xcamel> 4KW tube set...

09:24 <xcamel> as the neighbors lights go dim...

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09:24 <quail> no I am on a 101 set tonight an it puts out ~1 watt

09:25 <xcamel> broadcasting to the neighbors..

09:25 <quail> but I can change sets very fast and be on 400 watts

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09:25 <CoderForLife> back

09:26 <quail> xcamel: last night I was talking to a bloke in the US on the 101 set

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09:26 <xcamel> my son has a nice little rig - talked to Argentina, and Fiji once

09:26 <quail> propagation is good atm

09:26 <xcamel> what is your call?

09:27 <quail> VK5 <blah>

09:27 <CoderForLife> growing up , my wife's dad was on the radio all the time - the lightbulbs in the house would "talk"

09:27 <PriitM> ah yes, reached 30 000 credits on my account :>

09:27 <xcamel> PriitM, ...spend them for xmas....

09:27 <quail> xcamel: you can look my up in the call book

09:28 <PriitM> i sure will :P

09:28 <xcamel> Chris is KC5NIJ

09:30 <quail> xcamel: the reason I not giv my full call sign is cause people can find my address

09:30 <quail> s/giv/give

09:31 <xcamel> unlikely here, at best...

09:31 <quail> yeah may be, but the channel is still logged

09:32 <quail> and up on the web

09:32 <xcamel> I have all the access logs to it

09:32 <quail> :-)

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09:33 <quail> I just play it safe I not want unwanted at my door

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09:33 <xcamel> understood...

09:34 <quail> I already had some one try break in here couple months ago

09:35 <quail> and with some the equipment I have here it not easy to replace

09:36 <quail> with some the WWII equipment I got I can replace / rebuild, but I have some very rare sets that have taken me long time to track down and restore

09:37 <xcamel> I used to rebuild/refurbish radios from the 20's and 30's

09:37 <quail> nice :-)

09:37 <xcamel> some of the ones I have done are in museums now

09:38 <quail> I have a friend that does that

09:38 <xcamel> but that was 25 years ago..

09:38 <quail> very nice :-)

09:39 <xcamel> Atwater Kent was my favorite

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09:39 <quail> xcamel: when I have time I will take photos for you of my collection

09:40 <xcamel> I would love to see them...

09:40 <quail> xcamel: here is one of my sets >>>

09:40 <Romulus> <> (at

09:40 <xcamel> I have long since sold all mine

09:40 <xcamel> nice..

09:41 <quail> xcamel: it not the best pic, but that is a 122 mkII aust with linear amp and 34 ft mast

09:41 <xcamel> cool

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09:42 <quail> with the amp it does 100 watts TX

09:42 <xcamel> I didn't do military radios

09:42 <quail> that set was wade at the end the war in 1945

09:42 <quail> s/wade/made

09:43 <quail> it my pride and joy it was my first ever radio I restored

09:43 <quail> and I was only 16 when I got it

09:45 <PriitM> I got some old soviet grammofon and radio from 60s in our country house

09:46 <PriitM> everything works well, except it has no antennae

09:46 <quail> PriitM: I build my own antennas

09:47 <PriitM> i built one myself aswell: 2meters of wire :)

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09:47 <quail> PriitM: I love dipole antennas

09:48 <PriitM> i belive i have used one of that kind to receive tv signal from lativa

09:48 <PriitM> at least it looked similar

09:48 <quail> PriitM: I built my self a multi band dipole antenna

09:49 <quail> PriitM: it does 20/40/80 meter bands

09:50 <PriitM> i don't have so much knowledge, so not much point going into numbers :>

09:50 <quail> PriitM: meters are as the say

09:51 <quail> eg 8 meters of wire across my property

09:51 <quail> err 80

09:51 <Romulus> pauls out cursing at clouds while trying to figure out a workaround, but you can claim till 18 -- longer if full time for daily usages of household

09:52 <quail> damn firefox

09:53 <quail> it just hung itself as I changed desktops

09:53 <PriitM> I belive I got this one or very similar to this in my country house:

09:53 <Romulus> <> (at

09:54 <PriitM> i know that my great grandmother had this one:

09:55 <PriitM> they both work fine, even catched russian radio signal from 200km away from the border

09:55 <PriitM> ~200km

09:57 <quail> PriitM: nice, I not that into civial stuff

09:57 <quail> but a friend of mine is

09:57 <PriitM> OK :>

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10:19 <zombie67> yoyo[RKN]:  you there?

10:20 <yoyo[RKN]> yes

10:20 <zombie67> had an odd evo task testerday

10:20 <zombie67> I noticed it was showing at 123%, after running for just over an hour

10:21 <zombie67> checked in on it about 15 minutes later, it had completed and uploaded.

10:21 <Romulus> stay around, maybe someone took my eyes off the boinc stuff.

10:22 <zombie67> looks like it validated okay:

10:22 <Romulus> <> (at

10:22 <yoyo[RKN]> ups

10:22 <zombie67> just thought you would like to know.

10:22 <yoyo[RKN]> progress indication and estimated time is only a guess

10:23 <yoyo[RKN]> so it can happen that the wu runs longer than 100%

10:23 <zombie67> that can freak some people out....

10:24 <yoyo[RKN]> no other way. Alternative I can switch off progress indicator

10:25 <zombie67> your call.  maybe you could put a note next to the application or something?

10:25 <zombie67> or a sticky in the forum?

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10:25 <yoyo[RKN]> ok

10:26 <zombie67> that was all.  other than that, evo has been smooooooth.

10:26 <yoyo[RKN]> yes

10:27 <yoyo[RKN]> I created some new evo wus without priority

10:27 <zombie67> heh, just found 3 more evo's all at 111% or more.

10:29 <yoyo[RKN]> yes in the current batch the time seams to be underestimated. There are some which runs until 140%

10:30 <MTughan> Ah... Do you need a Mac build? ;)

10:31 <quail> ok the gutsy repo on LP is working away

10:32 <yoyo[RKN]> I have already one MTughan

10:32 <yoyo[RKN]> thx

10:32 <MTughan> For evo?

10:32 <yoyo[RKN]> first I will fix the problems

10:32 <yoyo[RKN]> yes, but not released

10:33 <MTughan> Oh, okay. That works!

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10:42 <MTughan> Um... PovAddict?

10:42 <Romulus> <> (at

10:42 <MTughan> bestPath is blank there too, but the task is valid...

10:43 <BadBarbarian_> morning all

10:43 <MTughan> 'lo BB_

10:43 <BadBarbarian_> its frigen cold

10:43 <MTughan> mweltin's not here either...

10:44 <MTughan> BadBarbarian_: Can you tell me the difference between and ?

10:44 <Romulus> <> (at

10:44 <BadBarbarian_> &weather 86023

10:44 <Romulus> BadBarbarian_: Temperature: 29F / -2C | Humidity: 32% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs around 36 on the North Rim to around 58 along the Colorado River. Light winds becoming northeast around 15 mph with gusts to around 30 mph in the afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 18 on the North Rim to around 35 (1 more message)

10:44 <BadBarbarian_> &more

10:44 <Romulus> BadBarbarian_: along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Sunday - Mostly sunny in the morning then becoming partly cloudy. Highs around 42 on the North Rim to around 60 along the Colorado River. Light winds.;

10:47 <BadBarbarian_> lol the starts & ends are not the same

10:47 <MTughan> Well, one of them is valid and the other isn't. That's why I'm puzzled.

10:49 <xcamel> back again

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11:02 <CoderForLife> back

11:02 <MTughan> 'lo CFL

11:02 <CoderForLife> hellp BadBarbarian MTughan

11:02 <CoderForLife> hellp?

11:03 <MTughan> lol

11:03 <CoderForLife> heeeeeelllpppp!

11:03 <CoderForLife> er, hello

11:03 <CoderForLife> when did that "p" key move over there?

11:19 <zombie67> hmmmm.  Mark Threads Read button is now gone from SETI forums.

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11:36 <CoderForLife> away

11:36 <MTughan> Bye.

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11:42 <quail> anyone that following Me TV project you might like to read this post >>>

11:42 <Romulus> <> (at

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11:46 <E-30> hey

11:46 <quail> anyone that following Me TV project you might like to read this post >>>

11:46 <Romulus> <> (at

11:46 <MTughan> 'lo E-30

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12:00 <quail> gi MTughan and E-30

12:01 <quail> err Hi

12:01 <MTughan> lol, hi

12:01 <quail> :-)

12:02 <quail> I have been working hard tonight, I have setup a new subdomain and a ubuntu repo

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12:18 <MTughan> And I have to be off... Laptop will stay here. Bye for now.

12:20 <E-30> how is everyone doing today

12:22 <quail> E-30: i am good, and drunk again :-)

12:25 <E-30> i am think about getting that way tonight

12:30 <xcamel> never a good idea...

12:30 <quail> no it not

12:31 <quail> and I go for another beer

12:31 <quail> :-)

12:33 <E-30> lol

12:33 <E-30> biohazard

12:33 <E-30> is my drank

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13:43 <mweltin> PovAddict, ?

13:43 <PovAddict> boo

13:44 <mweltin> hey for the mingw build, do I have to build boinc in that environment, or can I build boinc with MSVS and then link those libs in my mingw shell?

13:45 <PovAddict> I never used MSVS so I have no idea if its libraries would work

13:45 <mweltin> ok, I'm just having lots of trouble getting the right version of automake for mingw.

13:46 <mweltin> and boinc builds ok with msvs

13:46 <PovAddict> I never got autohell to work on mingw

13:46 <PovAddict> I use this:

13:46 <Romulus> <> (at

13:48 <mweltin> how much do you rock?!

13:48 <mweltin> I'll give that a try.

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13:49 <mweltin> I was in a boring meetin the other day and was tyring to build my app in windows again.  no love there.

13:59 <mweltin> ok dog walk bbl

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15:13 <xcamel> never got avove freezing today

15:14 <xcamel> er above even

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15:19 <xcamel> 'lo eddie

15:22 <PovAddict>

15:22 <Romulus> <> (at

15:27 <CoderForLife> tee-hee

15:28 <CoderForLife> the answer to the ultimate temperature question today is 42 (F)

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15:36 <efc> hey

15:36 <mweltin> hey

15:42 <CoderForLife> hey

15:44 <CoderForLife> bbl

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15:55 <mweltin> oops killed X

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16:25 <PovAddict> mweltin

16:26 <mweltin> yeha

16:27 <PovAddict> bestPath is on the checkpoint file isn't it?

16:27 <PovAddict> looks like you aren't parsing that back

16:28 <mweltin> yes, but what I found out is that in the new version (2.13) some of the results that are valid don't have a bestPath in stderr but it was in the output file. Validator bumps to a database.

16:29 <mweltin> did you update your svn?

16:29 <PovAddict> just did

16:30 <PovAddict> actually... hmm

16:30 <mweltin> line 140 is getting it, I'll double check my tspParser.

16:30 <PovAddict> you're using OutClass to save the checkpoint, and ChkptClass to load it back

16:30 <mweltin> yes

16:30 <mweltin> the OutClass has everything for the output file

16:31 <mweltin> but you need some other stuff for the checkpoint, such as the loopCounter.

16:31 <PovAddict> ChkptClass doesn't *ever*  mention bestPath

16:31 <mweltin> it has path

16:32 <PovAddict> but the checkpoint file doesn't have a 'path' tag

16:32 <PovAddict> OutClass::dumpChkpt saves a 'bestPath' tag

16:33 <PovAddict> you're saving a tag and reading another

16:33 <mweltin> yeah its confusing I agree and a poor choice of names, but path in check point = bestPath in Out.

16:34 <PovAddict> you use OutClass::dumpChkpt to save the checkpoint, which saves a <bestPath> tag

16:34 <mweltin> ahhh

16:34 <PovAddict> you use ChkptClass::parse to load the checkpoint back, which tries to read a <path> tag

16:35 <mweltin> I'm picking up what you are putting down.

16:35 <mweltin> very poor choice of words.

16:35 <mweltin> PovAddict, = super nice genius guy

16:36 <mweltin> Ok I'm going to take the hard fix and update all references from path to bestPath.

16:36 <mweltin> wish me luck

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16:59 <mweltin_> what

16:59 <mweltin_> oh Im here

16:59 <mweltin_> never mind

17:00 <Tank_Master> good to hear

17:00 <Tank_Master> as am I

17:01 <mweltin_> nice to see you Tank_Master

17:01 <Tank_Master> thx

17:01 <Tank_Master> you 2

17:02 <Tank_Master> id ask how your thxgiving went, but... ;)

17:02 <mweltin_> it wa a huge success

17:02 <mweltin_> umu worked out great.

17:02 <Tank_Master> good :)

17:03 <Tank_Master> I see I still have work...

17:03 <mweltin_> the 64bit app is working, but ther is still trouble afoot with the app.

17:03 <Tank_Master> yeah, still slow?

17:04 <mweltin_> PovAddict,  found some errors, but its not explaining some.

17:04 <Tank_Master> the last WU took 56min

17:04 <Tank_Master> same as the others lately

17:04 <Tank_Master> I liked the days of the 11min WUs ;)

17:04 <mweltin_> yeah didn't we all

17:04 <Tank_Master> lol

17:08 <Tank_Master> ill bbl

17:21 <CoderForLife> somebody ask for me?

17:22 <CoderForLife> hmm

17:23 <mweltin_> no sorry

17:24 <mweltin_> but if you have a good site to show you how to use Image_graph with php I'd love to see it.

17:24 <CoderForLife> I see - different chat

17:25 <mweltin_>

17:25 <Romulus> Title: - Image_Graph Samples (at

17:25 <mweltin_> that is a good one

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17:51 <CoderForLife> bbl

18:01 <xcamel> re-hi

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18:22 <benje> hello

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19:10 <freelarry> morn

19:14 <PriitM> is my team inactive or what? i'm on 18th place with avg. credit(333)

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19:20 <E-30> hey is anyone up

19:20 <efc> moo

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19:20 <mweltin_> I'm up

19:21 <mweltin_> just  a lazy day here in AS

19:21 <E-30> i see

19:22 <E-30> well same here

19:22 <E-30> getting married in dec

19:22 <mweltin_> good luck with that

19:22 <E-30> thanks a lot

19:23 <efc> Woot congrats

19:23 <efc> About to head off to high school reunion

19:24 <efc> Not incredibly excited about that one

19:24 <E-30> i see

19:24 <E-30> lol

19:26 <freelarry> congrats and best wishes E-30

19:26 <E-30> thanks freelarry

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19:41 <E-30> wow

19:42 <Romulus> but the t1 seems pretty cool live recordings

19:43 <E-30> lol i wish

19:46 <Tank_Master> T1 is @!@#$ slow

19:46 <E-30> well i have a 3 mg dow but only 521 k up ]

19:47 <Tank_Master> T1 is 1.5mb/s

19:47 <E-30> up or down

19:47 <Tank_Master> generally both

19:47 <Tank_Master> but mostly down

19:48 <E-30> wow cook good ping then

19:48 <Tank_Master> depends on the provider and the ocntract

19:48 <Tank_Master> no, its just copper

19:48 <E-30> i see

19:51 <E-30> well how is your day going

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20:49 <quail> afternoon all, how are we all?

20:51 <BadBarbarian> good you

20:52 <quail> not to bad, still drunk :-S

20:54 <Tank_Master> lol

20:55 <BadBarbarian> hi tank back home

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21:26 <Tank_Master> yep

21:48 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86023

21:48 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 26F / -3C | Humidity: 27% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 14 on the North Rim to around 33 along the Colorado River. Northeast winds around 15 mph early in the evening becoming light.; Sunday - Partly cloudy. Highs around 45 on the North Rim to around 60 along the Colorado (1 more message)

21:48 <BadBarbarian> &more

21:48 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: River. Light winds.; Sunday Night - Mostly cloudy. Lows around 15 on the North Rim to around 29 along the Colorado River. Light winds.;

21:51 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

21:51 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 42.6F / 5.9C | Humidity: 67% | Pressure: 30.16in / 1021.2hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A slight chance of showers and light sleet in the evening. Lows 30 to 35. Light wind.; Sunday - Partly sunny. Highs 45 to 50. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph...except east 15 to 25 mph near The Gorge.; Sunday Night - Partly (1 more message)

21:51 <Tank_Master> &more

21:51 <Romulus> Tank_Master: cloudy. Lows around 35. East wind 5 to 10 mph...except east 15 to 25 mph near The Gorge.;

21:52 <BadBarbarian> lol thanx

21:52 <Tank_Master> np

21:52 <BadBarbarian> how was seattle

21:52 <Tank_Master> dry and sunny

21:52 <Tank_Master> was nice

21:52 <BadBarbarian> do any clubbing

21:52 <Tank_Master> no

21:52 <Tank_Master> :P

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21:53 <Tank_Master> looks like some fun weather tonight...

21:53 <Tank_Master> light sleet in the evening

21:53 <BadBarbarian> yep we will get snow here

21:53 <Tank_Master> cool

21:53 <Tank_Master> anywho, my pizza is ready

21:54 <Tank_Master> ill in a few hrs

21:54 <BadBarbarian> we are 800 feet higher than the canyon

21:54 <BadBarbarian> kk

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23:08 <MTughan> PovAddict: Not sure if you noticed, but in recent WUs on my computer, both valid and invalid results on TSP are missing bestPath.

23:09 <MTughan> An invalid one:

23:09 <Romulus> <> (at

23:09 <MTughan> And valid and credited:

23:09 <Romulus> <> (at

23:09 <MTughan> Ignore the bold...

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23:10 <MTughan> 'lo zombie

23:12 <zombie67> hi MT

23:12 <zombie67> PovAddict around?

23:12 <MTughan> Should be.

23:14 <zombie67> Pov?

23:14 <MTughan> He's not marked as away... Must be AFK.

23:15 <zombie67> do you know why there are no "mark all read" buttons or links at SETI?

23:15 <MTughan> They were removed earlier today, I believe.

23:15 <MTughan> Why they did it, I don't know.

23:15 <zombie67> was there an announcement about it?

23:15 <MTughan> Not that I saw.

23:16 <Romulus> the OP isn't available anymore... it's .test so gets purged often

23:16 <zombie67> I hope this is not an indication that they were remoced from the server package...

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23:18 <zombie67> hi bryanUC

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23:24 <PovAddict> I haven't seen any announcement

23:24 <PovAddict> I don't frequent seti forums anyway so I didn't notice it

23:24 <PovAddict> doesn't look like the button was removed from boinc code though

23:25 <MTughan> Can you check those two tasks on TSP too. One's valid, one's invalid, both are missing bestPath.

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23:28 <PovAddict> validator must be working bad...

23:29 <zombie67> thanks Pov.  that is what I wanted to knw

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