00:05 <efc> That wasn't too bad
00:15 <MTughan> Night all...
00:21 <zombie67> night!
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02:27 <zombie67> hi yoyo
02:28 <Tank_Master> hey
02:28 <zombie67> hi TM
02:28 <Tank_Master> sup?
02:29 <zombie67> you going to participate in the WCG race?
02:30 <zombie67> not seeing team seti signed up yet
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02:37 <zombie67> hmmmm
02:37 <Tank_Master> dunno
02:38 <Tank_Master> dont care to much for the credits there
02:38 <yoyo[RKN]> morning
02:39 <yoyo[RKN]> Tank_Master : its time to sleep for you ;)
02:42 <Tank_Master> yep
02:42 <Tank_Master> but this damn flash game....
02:42 <Tank_Master> gotta beat it first ;)
02:42 <zombie67> yoyo: what is the answer to this?: http://www.boincteams.com/viewtopic.php?p=1255#1255
02:43 <zombie67> TM: FYI, WCG will be at least as good as TSP if not better
02:43 <yoyo[RKN]> no idea
02:43 <yoyo[RKN]> I will ask our WCG expert
02:44 <zombie67> because if it based on when credit is awarded, then you need ot start crunching NOW
02:44 <zombie67> if not earlier
02:44 <yoyo[RKN]> we will see, it is the first time we make a WCG team challange
02:45 <zombie67> I again have the problem where my founder is MIA on that project.
02:45 <yoyo[RKN]> from science point of view WCG is one of the best projects
02:45 <yoyo[RKN]> for the race you can join our team ;)
02:45 <zombie67> hah!
02:46 <yoyo[RKN]> exeptional we will allow it
02:46 <zombie67> perhaps I could get them to let me participate as a team all by myself
02:46 <Tank_Master> and how will joining your team help mine?
02:46 <Tank_Master> lol
02:46 <Tank_Master> youd probably still do well to
02:47 <yoyo[RKN]> it will help WCG to find something against cancer and makes your life longer so you can participate longer in your team .
02:47 <yoyo[RKN]> ;)
02:48 <zombie67> I would like to participate, but my team needs to get their act together in the next day or so
02:49 <zombie67> may need to get dyctilos (sp?) to make me the team founder there
02:49 <zombie67> no normal function to assume founder at WCG, and even if so, takes two months
02:50 <zombie67> yoyo: you realize that you will be hurting your own project by doing this...
02:50 <yoyo[RKN]> yes
02:51 <yoyo[RKN]> but there must be some fun
02:52 <zombie67> agreed
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03:41 <yoyo[RKN]> how can I sent a mail with attachment on Linux from a shell-/perl script?
03:46 <zombie67> dunno
03:46 <zombie67> last time I used command line for email was 20 years ago
03:46 <yoyo[RKN]> what time do you have zombie67
03:46 <zombie67> on SunOS 3
03:46 <zombie67> unix
03:46 <zombie67> the trick was "~r filename"
03:47 <zombie67> 12:48PM
03:47 <yoyo[RKN]> uh
03:47 <zombie67> or is that AM?
03:47 <zombie67> I can never tell with the 12s
03:47 <yoyo[RKN]> duno
03:48 <yoyo[RKN]> in german it is easier
03:48 <yoyo[RKN]> without am/pm
03:48 <Romulus> haha, all BOINC projects have native 64-bit integers regardless of the main executable file on machine that locked during game play
03:48 <zombie67> It is 00:49
03:49 <yoyo[RKN]> so your sunday is 50 minutes old )
03:49 <yoyo[RKN]> ;)
03:49 <zombie67> yes!
03:50 <zombie67> trying to participate in the challenge, but running into road blocks
03:52 <zombie67> If I leave a team, they keep my team points, right?
03:53 <zombie67> what happens if they kick me out?
03:53 <yoyo[RKN]> there was somthing special on WCG
03:53 <zombie67> yeah?
03:53 <yoyo[RKN]> other than for normal boinc projects
03:54 <zombie67> I think I heard that about CPDN too, but can't recall exactly
03:54 <yoyo[RKN]> think standard boinc is to keep the points in the team even if you leave
03:54 <yoyo[RKN]> wcg you take your credits with you
03:54 <yoyo[RKN]> but do not remember exactly
03:55 <yoyo[RKN]> s/remember/recall
03:55 <yoyo[RKN]> hmm
03:56 <zombie67> so, if I were to create a new team, crunch for the event, then go back to my old team, it all follows me?
03:56 <yoyo[RKN]> maybe
03:57 <zombie67> this is worth 750k-1M points, so need to be sure...
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05:26 <quail> g'evening all, how are we all?
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05:29 <zombie67> welcome back
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05:40 <yoyo[RKN]> ;)
05:53 <zombie67> time for bed. goodnight!
05:53 <yoyo[RKN]> gn
05:53 <yoyo[RKN]> you cancelled some evos ;)
05:54 <zombie67> had to, for the WCG thing
05:54 <zombie67> you caused this!
05:54 <zombie67> ;)
05:55 <zombie67> delayed credits mean early crunching required
05:56 <zombie67> figured it was more fair of me to cancel them,m rather than just resetting or detaching.
05:56 <zombie67> that way they immediately go back into the pool
05:57 <zombie67> ok now to bed
05:57 <zombie67> gn
05:57 <Romulus> PovAddict: what do you participate in the server IP and theirs on the top 50 fastest supercomputers in the bedroom) it suffices
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06:26 <E-30> hey
06:31 <PriitM> halloz
06:35 <E-30> hey how are you doing
07:18 <E-30> wow were is everyone at today
07:19 <PriitM> enjoying weekend perhaps :)
07:20 <E-30> maybe
07:23 * CoderForLife finishes breakfast
07:23 <CoderForLife> morning folks
07:23 <PriitM> it's noon here
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07:23 <E-30> hey
07:23 <E-30> hey cfl
07:23 <CoderForLife> was it something I said, E-30?
07:24 <E-30> i sont know i jest went poof for a sec
07:24 <E-30> dont
07:24 <CoderForLife> lol
07:24 <CoderForLife> got to watch that poofing stuff
07:24 <E-30> well i am runnning under vista now it a pain in my ass to say the least
07:25 <E-30> i know
07:25 <E-30> and vista )-:
07:25 <CoderForLife> did you say you were running from Vista now?
07:25 <E-30> yea
07:25 <CoderForLife> you need to run faster
07:25 <E-30> why
07:26 <CoderForLife> it's still following you
07:26 <E-30> lol
07:26 <CoderForLife> get as far away as possible
07:27 <E-30> cant i hath to work under it now so i am going to make it run the way i what it to like i did with xp
07:27 <E-30> hope so at least
07:31 <CoderForLife> the security precautions in Vista drive me crazy
07:32 <E-30> i know jest to go to mirc i hath to say it ok to go there
07:32 <E-30> lol
07:34 <E-30> it running fast at least with 4 gb of ram backing it up
07:35 <E-30> vista rating of 5.6 out of 5.9
07:36 <CoderForLife> there's also a way to cache with a USB drive, to make it run even faster
07:37 <E-30> i have 4 gb there too
07:37 <CoderForLife> is that called something like "Boost"?
07:38 <E-30> redy boost
07:38 <E-30> ready boost
07:38 <E-30> there
07:38 <CoderForLife> yes
07:38 <CoderForLife> you running that?
07:38 <E-30> yea 4 gb of it
07:38 <E-30> on my 8 gb stick
07:38 <CoderForLife> you are truly in Vista heaven =)
07:39 <E-30> i hope
07:39 <E-30> my hard drive is the lowest score of all at 5.6
07:39 <E-30> ram at 5.9 cpu is 5.9 and video at 5.9
07:39 <CoderForLife> nirvana
07:39 <E-30> lol
07:40 <E-30> its ok
07:40 <E-30> runs qmc faster thought
07:43 <CoderForLife> as it should
07:43 <E-30> i hope it is the same for my games
07:48 <CoderForLife> You're going to try to run *games* on Vista.... =)
07:50 <CoderForLife> what a far out concept
07:52 <E-30> ye a
07:52 <E-30> yea i am
07:52 <E-30> need for speed pro street
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07:55 <E-30> wow
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08:11 <E-30> well i dont konw what to do now
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08:25 <xcamel> 'l'lo
08:29 <CoderForLife> morning
08:29 <PriitM> hallos
08:30 * CoderForLife finshes reading some supporting wiki material regarding Battlestar Galactica Razor
08:31 <CoderForLife> bbiab
08:35 <xcamel> iy was ok..
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09:01 <CoderForLife> yeah, filled in several details
09:02 <xcamel> a couple of very strange twists...
09:02 <CoderForLife> uh-huh
09:03 <xcamel> bringing back the original cylons was interesting - even 'goldie'
09:03 <CoderForLife> lol "by your command"
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09:07 <CoderForLife> the hybrids are interesting - "evolutionary dead-end" that forms the CPU of the basestars - I find that hard to fathom
09:07 <xcamel> 20 degrees warmer this morning
09:07 <CoderForLife> wow
09:08 <CoderForLife> 27F officially - 33F outside my window
09:08 <xcamel> never got above freezing yesterday
09:08 <xcamel> now 31F
09:08 <CoderForLife> we got to 42 or so
09:08 <CoderForLife> 50s today?
09:08 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140
09:09 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 32.5°F / 0.3°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 30.22in / 1023.2hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Warmer with highs around 50. Light southeast winds.; Tonight - .occasional showers...especially after midnight. Early lows in the lower 40s...then temperatures rising. Light east winds. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Monday (1 more message)
09:09 <xcamel> I was fixing tank heaters yesterday
09:09 <xcamel> and waiting for the hose to un-thaw
09:09 <CoderForLife> rain moving in
09:09 <xcamel> big rain for us tomorrow
09:09 <CoderForLife> I'm happy to be able to share
09:10 <CoderForLife> we'll put the rest of the Christmas lights out today - Stephen had homework to do yesterday
09:11 <CoderForLife> I did blow some leaves around
09:12 <CoderForLife> need to do the front of the house before the rain comes
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09:31 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86023
09:31 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 9°F / -13°C | Humidity: 51% | Pressure: 30.24in / 1024hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Today - Partly cloudy. Highs around 42 on the North Rim to around 61 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows around 21 on the North Rim to around 32 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Monday - Mostly cloudy in the (1 more message)
09:32 <xcamel> I don't do lights until middle of dec.
09:38 <CoderForLife> we wait until after Thankgiving - some folks around here go immediately from Halloween lights to Christmas lights to Easter Eggs hanging from the trees
09:42 <xcamel> shallow gene pool
09:44 <CoderForLife> too much money and time on their hands
09:44 <CoderForLife> or ill-used money
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09:52 <quail> g'evening all, how are we all?
09:54 * CoderForLife does a systems diagnostic
09:54 <CoderForLife> all systems nominal
09:55 <quail> CoderForLife: Hi Don, how are you? how was your thanks giving?
09:56 <CoderForLife> T-day seems like a distant memory, but it was good. Didn't get together with the extended family due to my sister being sick.
09:57 <CoderForLife> watched BSG Razor last night, so I'm a bit sleepy this morning, even though I slept until 7:00am
09:58 <CoderForLife> doing w@#% homew@#% at the moment
09:58 <CoderForLife> we need to decide this week if we're going to build a new system
10:01 <quail> kewl
10:02 <quail> I been doing Me TV related stuff, like setting up a deb repo and hosting the offical web site
10:04 <Romulus> Title: Me TV, it's TV for me computer (at me-tv.southernvaleslug.org)
10:12 <CoderForLife> yeah, I saw your blog update with the info
10:13 <quail> ah kewl :-)
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11:31 <CoderForLife> re-hi
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13:53 <Romulus> Title: WeDoNotUse.com (at www.wedonotuse.com)
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14:04 <sethiroth66> hai
14:04 <MTughan> 'lo sethiroth66
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14:05 * freelarry has always wondered how sethiroth66 can join a project and have a blank for country for account
14:06 <PovAddict> he has UK, not a blank
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14:26 <freelarry> check sudoko tffe team
14:27 <PovAddict> hey hey kicking everybody's a$$ there :)
14:27 <freelarry> not me ;)
14:27 <PovAddict> your computer
14:27 <freelarry> cant be
14:28 * freelarry just cleared a trojan that this machine got by operator action - knew i should have used end task instead of clicking close x
14:28 <PovAddict> you got 19.5k, next on list has 1.3k
14:28 <freelarry> lol yah a little
14:29 <freelarry> 32 for users overall but slipping
14:29 <PovAddict> #30 if sorting by RAC
14:30 <freelarry> will apologize to all if that trojan got your email from machine but i think i caught it in time and removed machine from internet access before it did much
14:30 <freelarry> rac will be slipping to PovAddict
14:31 <PovAddict> your top host #51 by RAC, #127 by total credit
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14:49 <xcamel> re-hi
14:51 <BadBarbarian> "lo xcamel
14:52 <MTughan> 'lo BB, Jay
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15:02 <xcamel> interesting:
15:05 <MTughan> Wow... I almost doubled my RAC on TSP, and I still barely made it into the top 50...
15:06 <MTughan> zombie67...
15:07 <MTughan> Well, I found zombie67's 8-core Mac. http://bob.myisland.as/tsp//workunit.php?wuid=179363
15:08 * xcamel is really hoping this creeping grodie will burn itself out soon
15:08 <MTughan> He's 1211, I'm 322.
15:08 <MTughan> The other computer is an AMD 64 X2. How am I supposed to compete with that?!
15:10 <PovAddict> I have an AMD 64 X2 :)
15:10 <MTughan> Yeah, it's a dual-core 32-bit against a dual-core 64-bit and a dual quad-core 64-bit.
15:11 <PovAddict> have fun
15:11 <MTughan> I lost.
15:11 <PovAddict> go back to vectorTD, you win that one
15:11 <PovAddict> XD
15:11 <MTughan> lol
15:12 <CoderForLife> rain
15:12 <MTughan> Yeah, zombie67's 8-core has an RAC of 750. I just made it to 50!
15:13 <MTughan> If I were just running TSP WUs, I would about double that. But I'm also running SIMAP. I've put all other projects on hold.
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15:14 <mweltin> hey
15:14 <MTughan> 'lo mweltin
15:15 <MTughan> I've noticed some strange stuff with the validator on TSP. I have WUs that are both valid and invalid, and both are missing bestPath.
15:15 <Tidus> 'lo
15:15 <mweltin> yeah all kinds of problems
15:15 <MTughan> An invalid task: http://bob.myisland.as/tsp//result.php?resultid=950105
15:15 <Tank_Master> mw!
15:16 <MTughan> And a valid one: http://bob.myisland.as/tsp//result.php?resultid=950584
15:16 <mweltin> I think there is somethign wrong with my permutaiton gererator as well.
15:16 <CoderForLife> still raining
15:16 <Romulus> amd is unlocked but they did a lazy bumm
15:16 <Tank_Master> all sunny here
15:16 <CoderForLife> raining here
15:16 <PovAddict> wtf
15:16 <CoderForLife> still
15:16 <Tidus> icy here...
15:16 <MTughan> So you've said.
15:16 <CoderForLife> lol
15:16 <PovAddict> weather widget says 22C
15:17 <Tidus> &weather 72764
15:17 <mweltin> PovAddict, spotted a flaw in my logic, so I think the bestPath is fixed.
15:17 <MTughan> &weather Toronto
15:17 <Romulus> Tidus: Temperature: 37°F / 3°C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.99in / 1016hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h ; Rest of Today - Occasional rain showers. Highs around 40. Northeast winds around 10 mph. Chance of showers near 100 percent.; Tonight - Occasional rain. Lows in the lower 30s. Light winds becoming northwest up to 10 mph after midnight. Chance of rain 90 (1 more message)
15:17 <PovAddict> but it's 27C inside
15:17 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 43Â°F / 6Â°C | Humidity: 53% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 17mph / 28km/h | Updated: 3:00 PM EST; Today - Sunny with cloudy periods. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph). High 5C(41F).; Tonight - A few clouds. Increasing cloudiness late this evening with 30 percent chance of showers overnight. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light (1 more message)
15:17 <Tidus> &more
15:17 <Romulus> Tidus: percent.; Monday - Rain or snow likely in the morning...then slight chance of rain or snow in the afternoon. Little or no snow accumulation. Highs in the lower 40s. Northwest winds around 10 mph. Chance of precipitation 60 percent.;
15:17 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007 &more
15:17 <mweltin> I hvae not released it.
15:17 <MTughan> &more
15:17 <Romulus> MTughan: this evening. Low 2C(36F).; Monday - Cloudy with sunny periods. Periods of rain beginning in the afternoon. High 4C(39F).;
15:17 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 45.6°F / 7.6°C | Humidity: 65% | Pressure: 30.19in / 1022.2hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. Highs around 45. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows 30 to 35 except 25 to 30 in outlying areas. East wind 5 to 10 mph.; Monday - Patchy fog in the (1 more message)
15:17 <Tank_Master> &more
15:17 <Romulus> Tank_Master: morning. Rain in the afternoon. Highs around 45. South wind 5 to 15 mph.;
15:17 <PovAddict> what a mess
15:17 <MTughan> We're pushing Rommie, aren't we? xD
15:17 <Tank_Master> :P
15:17 <CoderForLife> see what I started?
15:17 <mweltin> I got a message from Jord warning me about crunch3r.
15:17 <CoderForLife> who says I can't have an impact?
15:17 <MTughan> CFL, it's all your fault! :P
15:18 <mweltin> and I still can't build under mingw.
15:18 <mweltin> oh and HELLO Tank_Master
15:18 <PovAddict> mweltin: warning?
15:18 <Tank_Master> hi ;), what he say about crunch3r?
15:19 <mweltin> yeah something about crunch3r accusing dotsch about stealing 'his' code.
15:19 <Tank_Master> ahh
15:19 <MTughan> His code for what?
15:19 <Tank_Master> dunno who dotsch is
15:19 <mweltin> I'm not sure it applies to me. Now that you guys have seen the code, it is nothing to brag about,.
15:19 <mweltin> enigma
15:19 <Tank_Master> lol
15:19 <MTughan> I think most projects are open-source anyway.
15:20 <Tank_Master> most are closed
15:20 <Tank_Master> at least most of the older ones
15:20 <MTughan> Tank_Master: He made an unofficial BURP app for Mac, which has seemed to disappear anyway...
15:20 <MTughan> dotsch, that is.
15:20 <Tank_Master> ahh
15:20 <Tank_Master> probably had to much gass in it
15:21 <mweltin> I don't care too much, I'm grateful for crunch3rs help.
15:21 <Tank_Master> :)
15:21 <MTughan> My cat is lounging under my bed sheets...
15:21 <Tank_Master> yeah, he is good at what is does
15:21 <MTughan> Warmer under there than outside...
15:22 <Tank_Master> my cat desided to go outside in the 40f weather
15:22 <MTughan> &math convert 40 F to C
15:22 <Romulus> MTughan: 4.44444444444
15:22 <MTughan> Hehe... Warmer than that here, and my cat still didn't like it earlier today.
15:22 <efc> I think he left off some 4's
15:23 <MTughan> lol
15:23 <mweltin> so what troubles me more about my app than the best path is the fact that the start and end suffix's should be reverse sorted versions of one another
15:23 <mweltin> and they are not.
15:23 <mweltin> well at least not all the time.
15:23 <mweltin> I'm still checking on that.
15:24 <Tank_Master> with time all will be known
15:24 <Tank_Master> with more time all will be forgotten
15:24 <MTughan> Or most anyway.
15:24 <mweltin> LOL
15:24 <Tank_Master> :)
15:25 <MTughan> We'll still not know what Microsoft was thinking with Vista. xD
15:26 <Romulus> Title: QDB: Quote #21814 (at www.bash.org)
15:27 <MTughan> "Message from server: Project encountered internal error: shared memory"
15:27 <MTughan> From BURP.
15:27 <Tank_Master> doh!
15:28 <PovAddict> I'm keeping an archive of seti stats
15:28 <PovAddict> I have only 5 days of stats and using 2gigs... I'm working on making diffs
15:29 <Tank_Master> ill bbl
15:29 <mweltin> bye
15:29 <MTughan> Bye.
15:29 * MTughan mutilates Tank_Master with a holy shovel
15:31 <mweltin> I have to get ready to dive soon.
15:31 <MTughan> mweltin: Are all the apps going to be upgrade to a new version? Looks like there is a 2.12 and a 2.13...
15:31 <mweltin> Are you going to be on?
15:31 <mweltin> yes I want to make a 2.14 that are all using the same code base
15:31 <MTughan> Okay.
15:31 <mweltin> the only thing that is fixed is the bestPath.
15:31 <MTughan> Is that ready in SVN, or should I hold out?
15:32 <mweltin> I can't find a result that has the glitch I'm looking for.
15:32 <MTughan> And what is that?
15:32 <mweltin> oh you can grab stuff out of svn now.
15:33 <mweltin> PovAddict, can you crank out a mingW 2.14 please?
15:33 <mweltin> I'm still having trouble even with hte make file you gave me.
15:33 <MTughan> You want the new Mac apps now?
15:33 <mweltin> I just have way too much going on.
15:33 <mweltin> MTughan, yes please, it its not too much trouble.
15:34 <PovAddict> updating svn
15:34 <MTughan> Just have to upload the bunzip.
15:34 <mweltin> I have to leave in about 10 min for a dive, but
15:34 <PovAddict> crap
15:34 <mweltin> what?
15:34 <PovAddict> MTughan: that was FAST
15:34 <MTughan> Yay for Makefiles! :D
15:35 <mweltin> wow
15:35 <PovAddict> mweltin: I did custom mods to the api code... I'm not sure if it would work ...
15:35 <PovAddict> reverting
15:35 <PovAddict> there we go
15:35 <mweltin> of course you did
15:35 <MTughan> I just have to type two commands and I've got the latest build: "make update" and "make".
15:36 <PovAddict> who the frak changed Containers.cpp to point to an absolute path >.>
15:36 <PovAddict> #include "E:\Expat\lib\expat.h"
15:36 <MTughan> Nice...
15:36 <mweltin> ahhhh mmmmmm
15:36 <mweltin> me
15:36 <MTughan> lol
15:36 <mweltin> it was tweaking stuff while in a meeting.
15:36 <mweltin> I'll change that back
15:36 <MTughan> Wait, why didn't mine update Containers.cpp?
15:37 <MTughan> Oh, it did.
15:37 <PovAddict> damn... again gotta merge svn changes with mine
15:37 <BadBarbarian> howdy guys
15:37 <MTughan> 'lo BB
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15:37 <PovAddict> MTughan: #ifdef WIN32
15:37 <MTughan> Ah, that's why mine worked fine...
15:37 <MTughan> Yeah, just opened it.
15:37 <MTughan> And that's _WIN32.
15:39 <PovAddict> please dont download if you're not mweltin... so that it's faster for him...
15:39 <MTughan> Hehe...
15:39 <PovAddict> two people downloading = 6KB/s each
15:40 <MTughan> Two people?
15:40 <mweltin> I already downloaded it.
15:40 <MTughan> PovAddict: I think I know who one is...
15:40 <MTughan> Romulus?
15:40 <mweltin> I have my build, and your builds, and I'll install them as soon as I get back.
15:40 <PovAddict> I was just saying how much it would be
15:40 <PovAddict> I don't know how many people are downloading
15:41 <mweltin> I'll depricate the other apps, turn on the strict error checking in hte validator and watch for the sequence error.
15:43 <mweltin> see you guys in a few hours.
15:43 <MTughan> Bye.
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15:43 <MTughan> PovAddict: What does str2intVec do?
15:43 <PovAddict> I have no idea
15:43 <PovAddict> it's somewhere on lib/
15:44 <MTughan> Ah...
15:44 <MTughan> I'm trying to trace down where bestPath goes.
15:47 <MTughan> PovAddict: "string". Is it a standard class or one mweltin did? I've never heard of it.
15:48 <PovAddict> standard C++
15:48 <MTughan> So I guess str.find_first_not_of() does what it sounds like?
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15:49 <MTughan> Oh, thanks...
15:55 <yoyo[RKN]> hmm
15:56 <yoyo[RKN]> think it is easier to make 3 applications for different computation times
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16:03 <MTughan> Looks like there's only one thing that can explain this at this point: getdist().
16:04 <MTughan> Wait, it's not that... Damn.
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16:18 <CoderForLife> away for awhile
16:19 <Romulus> status says 4,000 results to users in #boinc
16:20 <PriitM> sweet, i got bunch of 1.1 hour WUs =)
16:22 <yoyo[RKN]> which project PriitM?
16:23 <PriitM> s@h
16:38 <xcamel> back again, again
16:39 <Tidus> wb
16:55 <xcamel> 'lo Tidus
16:56 <xcamel> almost got warm today
16:56 <Tank_Master> lol
16:56 <Tank_Master> is there a way for rommie to just display the current weather, instead of the current and the forcast?
16:56 <PovAddict> no
16:56 <xcamel> yes..
16:57 <PovAddict> "/msg Romulus weather [whatever]" so you don't flood the channel
16:57 <xcamel> nope..
16:57 <xcamel> what city?
16:58 <Tank_Master> nine seven double oh seven
16:58 <Tank_Master> (97007)
16:58 <PovAddict> Â¬Â¬
16:58 <xcamel> &cnn 97007
16:58 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
16:58 <xcamel> &ham 97007
16:58 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: No such location could be found.
16:58 <Tank_Master> portland, or
16:58 <xcamel> &zipinfo 97007
16:58 <Romulus> xcamel: City: Beaverton; State: OR; County: Washington; Area Code: 503; Time Zone: PST; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 45.4535 (North); Longitude: 122.8761 (West)
16:59 <Tank_Master> or beaverton
16:59 <PovAddict> &list weather
16:59 <Romulus> PovAddict: cnn, ham, weather, wunder, and wunder rss
16:59 <xcamel> &ham beaverton, or
16:59 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: No such location could be found.
16:59 <Tank_Master> or hillsboro
16:59 <xcamel> &ham beaverton OR
16:59 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: No such location could be found.
16:59 <xcamel> geeez...
16:59 <Tank_Master> &ham Portland, or
16:59 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: No such location could be found.
16:59 <xcamel> &ham Portland OR
16:59 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: No such location could be found.
16:59 <xcamel> &ham Portland
16:59 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: No such location could be found.
16:59 <Tank_Master> o.O?
17:00 <PriitM> &ham Tallinn
17:00 <Romulus> PriitM: Error: No such location could be found.
17:00 <xcamel> &cnn Portland OR
17:00 <Tank_Master> how can the largest city in oregon not be found?
17:00 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
17:00 <PriitM> how can the largest city in estonia not be found?
17:00 <xcamel> stupid bot - that used to work fine
17:00 <PovAddict> CNN blocked you
17:00 <PovAddict> ?
17:01 <Tank_Master> &ham oregon
17:01 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: No such location could be found.
17:01 <Tank_Master> &ham pdx
17:01 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: No such location could be found.
17:01 <Tank_Master> &cnn pdx
17:01 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
17:02 <Tank_Master> &wunder 97007
17:02 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: No such location could be found.
17:02 <Tank_Master> &wunder pdx
17:02 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: No such location could be found.
17:02 <Tank_Master> &wunder portland, or
17:02 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: No such location could be found.
17:02 <Tank_Master> forget it
17:05 <Tank_Master> do we know what script the weather is from?
17:05 <Tank_Master> !weather 97007
17:05 <PovAddict> download the weather plugin for supybot and look at the code :)
17:06 <yoyo[RKN]> PovAddict : how is your boinc project running?
17:07 <BadBarbarian> tank here its
17:07 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86023
17:07 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 50°F / 10°C | Humidity: 12% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1019hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: Variable | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h ; Today - Partly cloudy. Highs around 42 on the North Rim to around 61 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows around 21 on the North Rim to around 32 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Monday - Mostly cloudy in the (1 more message)
17:07 <BadBarbarian> &more
17:07 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: morning then becoming partly cloudy. Highs around 44 on the North Rim to around 66 along the Colorado River. Light winds.;
17:07 <yoyo[RKN]> some of my team member want to know what happens with impfarm
17:07 <Tank_Master> no, i dont want the forcast part
17:07 <Tank_Master> @ BB ^^
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17:08 <Tank_Master> lol
17:08 <BadBarbarian> oh no rommies gone
17:08 <BadBarbarian> lol hes back
17:08 <xcamel> &weather 12074
17:08 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 35.3°F / 1.8°C | Humidity: 59% | Pressure: 30.24in / 1023.9hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A chance of freezing rain and snow after midnight. Lows in the upper 20s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation 50 percent.; Monday - Rain...freezing rain and light sleet in the morning...then rain in the afternoon. (2 more messages)
17:08 <Tank_Master> &weather current 97007
17:08 <xcamel> &cnn 12074
17:08 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 48.0°F / 8.9°C | Humidity: 59% | Pressure: 30.17in / 1021.6hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. Highs around 45. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows 30 to 35 except 25 to 30 in outlying areas. East wind 5 to 10 mph.; Monday - Patchy fog in the (1 more message)
17:09 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
17:09 <xcamel> &ham 12074
17:09 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: No such location could be found.
17:09 <xcamel> nutz
17:09 <Tank_Master> &more
17:09 <Romulus> Tank_Master: morning. Rain in the afternoon. Highs around 45. South wind 5 to 15 mph.;
17:10 <Tank_Master> hope the rain comes after it gets back above 32 ;)
17:10 <xcamel> we could get over an inch tomorrow..
17:10 <Tank_Master> but wouldnt be the first time we had freezing rain
17:10 <Tank_Master> or ice?
17:10 <Tank_Master> of*
17:10 <xcamel> should be all rain
17:10 <Tank_Master> ahh
17:11 <Tank_Master> an inch of rain a da is normal for here ;)
17:11 <yoyo[RKN]> &weather berlin
17:11 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 37Â°F / 3Â°C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 16mph / 26km/h | Updated: 10:50 PM CET; Chance of Rain. High:44 ° F. / 7 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:32 ° F. / 0 ° C.; Clear. High:37 ° F. / 3 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:28 ° F. / -2 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:37 ° F. / 3 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:30 ° F. / -1 ° (1 more message)
17:12 <Tank_Master> xcamle -
17:12 <Romulus> Title: Wether plugin needs updating.. Supybot Website (at supybot.com)
17:14 <xcamel> "updating" is kind of a rough term...
17:14 <Tank_Master> lol
17:14 <Tank_Master> true
17:14 <Tank_Master> but look who posted it...
17:16 <Tank_Master> anywho, ill bbl
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18:01 <MTughan> Hehe... Pi...
18:02 <PovAddict> or pie
18:02 <MTughan> Pi. It was a Greek letter.
18:02 <MTughan> I believe it's the equivalent of our "T".
18:02 <PovAddict> not P?
18:02 <MTughan> Believe it or not.
18:03 <Romulus> I bet they are not what you're doing
18:05 <MTughan> Oh, nevermind, it is a "P". Hehe...
18:08 <PriitM> stop being such kiddies, it's urinate :>
18:09 <PovAddict> pi, not pee
18:09 <MTughan> Greek, it's pronounced "pee". Like our letter.
18:09 <PriitM> i know :>
18:09 <PriitM> well i don't actually
18:09 <MTughan> Wikipedia has a lot of interesting info...
18:10 <PriitM> i'm fully aware of that.
18:11 <xcamel> ...most of it wrong.
18:11 <PriitM> i belive there's lots of correct information as well
18:12 <PriitM> it's late here, i should get some sleep
18:13 <PriitM> good night
18:13 <MTughan> Night.
18:13 <PriitM> or day...
18:13 <MTughan> lol
18:14 <xcamel> sleep is always good...
18:27 <Soul_keeper> any of you played Quake IV ?
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18:41 <BadBarbarian> tank you here
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19:36 <mweltin> LOL "xml is like violence. If it doesn't solve the problems, use more" -Pov
19:36 <Tank_Master> :)
19:37 <Tank_Master> howdy soul_keeper
19:37 <mweltin> this blows, something is getting hung up on the sequence during checkpoints.
19:38 <mweltin> Not sure what.
19:41 <mweltin> I may know ..... this could be good.
19:42 <mweltin> say Tank_Master where is everyone, PovAddict , and MTughan ?
19:42 <PovAddict> I was watching TV till a moment ago
19:43 <mweltin> I just saw that moive "No end in sight" about US policy in iraq war.
19:43 <PovAddict> ARGH, seti stats for a particular day are in an almost-random order :\ this screws up my diffs because the file changes too much
19:43 <mweltin> I think it was more depressing than Al Gore's movie.
19:44 <xcamel> both movies are utter bunk...
19:44 <xcamel> and even give "utters" a bad name
19:48 <Tank_Master> lol
19:48 <Tank_Master> both are probably put out by the far left demicratic people to discredit the repubilcan president
19:49 <Tank_Master> its sad howfar the demicrats are going to keep their power and control
19:50 <xcamel> manbearpig's movie is completely junk science
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19:50 <Tank_Master> is it even science?
19:50 <Romulus> for creating work if i remember a comic where there was a bit slow today
19:50 <xcamel> barely
19:51 <xcamel> and thoroughly discredited
19:51 <Tank_Master> so more opinion than science ;)
19:51 <xcamel> just meant to scare people, and help make algore more rich - see "lear jet liberals"
19:52 <xcamel> "No end in sight" is 100% leftist propaganda
19:53 <xcamel> antiwar pinko crowd..
19:56 <mweltin> I have been doing too much php, I just wrote for($i in a C prog and coun't figure out why it wouldn't compile.
20:00 <mweltin> on a lighter note I liked oceans 13
20:00 <PovAddict> mweltin: I remember somebody who wrote "Dim i as Integer" on a C program and said "TOO MUCH BASIC AT SCHOOL!"
20:00 <PovAddict> then typed "int i;" a hundred times to get back to sanity
20:04 <mweltin> lol
20:04 <PovAddict> testers say XP SP3 indeed improves performance
20:04 <mweltin> I saw your signature on one of those mail to project list.
20:04 <mweltin> I about fell out of my chair.
20:05 <PovAddict> I saw it on the topic of #xml on this IRC server, a long time ago
20:05 <mweltin> classic
20:08 <mweltin> PovAddict, I think I know what is wrong with my app. I'm running a few tests now. The loop counter was counting among other things how many times the (genNextSequece) was called.
20:08 <xcamel> wow... big slug of ugly headed this way...
20:08 <xcamel> lucky it won't be snow...
20:08 <mweltin> now that there is a inner loop, the number of perms generated and the loopcounter are out of synch (I think) not sure yet.
20:14 <Soul_keeper> ahhh the memories, i just threw away my voodoo 5 box, still had the original price tag and plastic wrap on it :(
20:14 <Tank_Master> I woulda taken it
20:17 <xcamel> empty box?
20:19 <Tank_Master> to play with
20:19 <Tank_Master> and it dose has some bragging rights that come with it ;)
20:19 <Tank_Master> to bad they sold to nvidia
20:19 <Tank_Master> the voodoo cards rocked
20:26 <xcamel> nvidia cards were better...
20:27 <xcamel> "back in the day" I wrote drivers for the riva, and the 128
20:28 <xcamel> long, long ago...
20:28 <xcamel> well... off with me....
20:29 <Tank_Master> gn
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20:33 <rubiks120> hi
20:34 <mweltin> does this work ? given two vector<int>'s A and B can I say A == B ?
20:34 <mweltin> I want is an element by element check .
20:35 <rubiks120> C++?
20:35 <mweltin> yeah
20:36 <rubiks120> I want to say you need to use some kind of for look to do an element by element check
20:36 <mweltin> I thought so, but I was just hopeful.
20:36 <rubiks120> but Im not sure I havent used C++ in a while
20:37 <rubiks120> C++ has some kind of check length function right?
20:37 <rubiks120> that checks the number of elements?
20:39 <rubiks120> if thats the case then all you need is a for(i=0; i <= (num of elements); i++) to check each although that wont break out if you get one thats not equal
20:39 <mweltin> yeah
20:41 <rubiks120> I suppose you could use a while statement while element a == element b increment i until you have checked every element
20:56 <PovAddict> you probably should use the STL iterators to go thru the vector
20:56 <mweltin> I am
20:56 <PovAddict> I didn't find any method to compare two vectors' contents
20:56 <mweltin> I made a cmpPerm method
20:57 <PovAddict> ah, C++ algorithms :)
20:57 <Romulus> the only person stupid enough to get that working, learn the ins and outs of boinc, i use gentoo
20:57 <mweltin> I'm watching ocean's 13 as well so its taking a while.
20:59 <PovAddict> bool equal(A.begin(), A.end(), B.begin())
21:00 <mweltin> that would have been better.
21:00 <mweltin> I always forget about the algorithms.
21:17 <mweltin> PovAddict, do the checkpoints run in a different thread?
21:17 <PovAddict> no, you run them yourself, on the same thread as all the rest
21:18 <mweltin> ok
21:37 <Tank_Master> its a balmy 34f out now
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22:33 <BiteAbleKat> 36 here
22:34 <MTughan> Heh, I would guess about 2C here...
22:35 <MTughan> 4C, 39F.
22:35 <Tank_Master> so much for global worming
22:35 <mweltin> &weather 96799
22:35 <Romulus> mweltin: Temperature: 77°F / 25°C | Humidity: 66% | Pressure: 29.91in / 1013hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h ; Today - Occasional showers with isolated thunderstorms. Highs in the mid 80s. Variable winds 10 mph...with higher gusts in showers.; Tonight and Thursday - Scattered showers with isolated thunderstorms. Lows near 80. High near 90. Variable winds 10 (1 more message)
22:36 <mweltin> its always nice here.
22:36 <MTughan> Hehe...
22:36 <mweltin> still having a hard time fixing this code.
22:36 <PovAddict> weather widget says: 19C
22:36 <MTughan> mweltin: Where does it count the loops?
22:36 <mweltin> its clear the perm genrator and the loop counts get out of sync, but if anything the loop counts should fall behind.
22:37 <mweltin> its counting the outer loop
22:37 <MTughan> Yeah, but where? The only place I see loopctr is in the checkpointing.
22:38 <mweltin> so if anything the permgenerator stays ahead of the loop
22:38 <mweltin> where else woul dyou like to see it.
22:38 <mweltin> hold on
22:38 <mweltin> I'll be right back.
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22:39 <MTughan> Now I gotta figure out the logic of his permutation generator...
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22:59 <MTughan> 'lo BB
22:59 <PovAddict> wtf
22:59 <PovAddict> I spent a long time making these xdeltas, and now they don't work
22:59 <BadBarbarian> lo everyone
22:59 <PovAddict> that better not mean I lost the data
23:00 <MTughan> And SIMAP is stopped for now in favour of TSP...
23:01 <Tank_Master> I stoped simap a while ago :)
23:02 <MTughan> Has a small relationship to S@H.
23:02 <Tank_Master> lol
23:04 <Tank_Master> theres a thery out there that each time SETI has an unexpected shutdown, they really did find something, but the government has them report it securtly then scrub the info from the systems ;)
23:04 <MTughan> lol
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23:14 <Romulus> Title: Aurant : Signature Featured Products (at www.aurant.com)
23:14 <Tank_Master> mmmmm
23:14 <Tank_Master> tube amps
23:15 <Tank_Master> only 20,000 for a mono amp :P
23:20 <MTughan> NO! Expert Minesweeper puzzle, two mines left, and I make a stupid decision!
23:21 <Tank_Master> LOL
23:21 <Tank_Master> sucks, eh?
23:21 <PovAddict> ...you're playing minesweeper?
23:21 <Tank_Master> hehe
23:21 <MTughan> Yeah, it sucks...
23:22 <MTughan> And what's wrong with Minesweeper?
23:23 <PovAddict> gah
23:23 <PovAddict> 103MB of unusable diffs
23:24 <MTughan> Ow... On that page, a $125,000 speaker set...
23:24 <Tank_Master> :P
23:24 <Tank_Master> cheep stuff
23:24 <MTughan> Cheap as in poorly made, or cheap as in inexpensive? :P
23:25 <MTughan> If the latter, what the heck have you been buying?
23:25 <Tank_Master> plasma speakers are still spendy
23:26 <PovAddict> I think it was "cheap" as in "sarcasm"
23:26 <Tank_Master> $25,000 a "speaker", but that dosent include the box or other speakers
23:26 <MTughan> Hehe... I know. :P
23:26 <Tank_Master> you can only get then in mid and high frequencys for now
23:27 <MTughan> What about the $250,000 projector? Personally, I don't fancy spending a quarter million dollars on a video projector.
23:27 <Tank_Master> but, with no moving parts, the clarity is something no traditional speaker can touch
23:27 <MTughan> Oh, you have one?
23:27 <Tank_Master> it only goes up to 1280x1024 to, thats not good
23:27 <Tank_Master> a shop near here has some
23:28 <Tank_Master> they sale really high end stuff
23:28 <MTughan> 5000 Lumens is massive though. And apparently it's got a lot of processing circuits.
23:29 <PovAddict> I should get outta here
23:29 <MTughan> Oh, well I thought it was big... Where my church got its projector, you can get up to 12,000 it looks like.
23:29 <MTughan> Oh, 15,000...
23:30 <Romulus> Title: Theater LCD Data Video Projector Eiki LC-XT5 (at www.eiki.com)
23:30 <Tank_Master> gn pov
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23:32 <MTughan> 'lo e
23:32 <efc> hey
23:33 <efc> I'm way behind but.. anybody else catch BSG last night?
23:33 <MTughan> BSG?
23:33 <efc> galactica
23:33 <MTughan> Ah... Never watched it.
23:34 <Romulus> Title: Aurant : Signature Featured Products (at www.aurant.com)
23:34 <Romulus> I've got to make a port for it.
23:34 <Tank_Master> its on my DRV right now ;)
23:34 <Tank_Master> ill get to watching it later in the week
23:35 <efc> It has a nice nod to the old series (at least I think it is since i never saw it)
23:38 <Tank_Master> I downloaded it
23:38 <Tank_Master> didnt finish watching it though :P
23:56 <MTughan> Agh... More anguish. I was off the fastest time for Expert in Minesweeper by 4 seconds...
23:57 <efc> Minesweeper is supposed to be NP-complete. Maybe you should create a giant one and a BOINC project to solve it. Seems to be in style.
23:57 <Tank_Master> LOL
23:57 <MTughan> lol
23:57 <Tank_Master> dont give us ideas ;)
23:58 <Tank_Master> one credit per square cleared by not hiting a mine ;)
23:58 <Tank_Master> 2 credits if they have a number
23:59 <MTughan> efc: How big?
23:59 <MTughan> Oh, you want fast times too? Create a 100x100 puzzle with 10 mines. xD
23:59 <Tank_Master> lol
23:59 <Tank_Master> big credits for those