IRC logs of #boinc for Sunday, 2007-11-25

00:05 <efc> That wasn't too bad

00:15 <MTughan> Night all...

00:21 <zombie67> night!

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02:27 <zombie67> hi yoyo

02:28 <zombie67> http://www.boincteams.com/viewtopic.php?p=1255#1255

02:28 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1A$h> (at www.boincteams.com)

02:28 <Tank_Master> hey

02:28 <zombie67> hi TM

02:28 <Tank_Master> sup?

02:29 <zombie67> you going to participate in the WCG race?

02:30 <zombie67> not seeing team seti signed up yet

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02:37 <zombie67> hmmmm

02:37 <Tank_Master> dunno

02:38 <Tank_Master> dont care to much for the credits there

02:38 <yoyo[RKN]> morning

02:39 <yoyo[RKN]> Tank_Master : its time to sleep for you ;)

02:42 <Tank_Master> yep

02:42 <Tank_Master> but this damn flash game....

02:42 <Tank_Master> gotta beat it first ;)

02:42 <zombie67> yoyo:  what is the answer to this?: http://www.boincteams.com/viewtopic.php?p=1255#1255

02:42 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1A$h> (at www.boincteams.com)

02:43 <zombie67> TM:  FYI, WCG will be at least as good as TSP if not better

02:43 <yoyo[RKN]> no idea

02:43 <yoyo[RKN]> I will ask our WCG expert

02:44 <zombie67> because if it based on when credit is awarded, then you need ot start crunching NOW

02:44 <zombie67> if not earlier

02:44 <yoyo[RKN]> we will see, it is the first time we make a WCG team challange

02:45 <zombie67> I again have the problem where my founder is MIA on that project.

02:45 <yoyo[RKN]> from science point of view WCG is one of the best projects

02:45 <yoyo[RKN]> for the race you can join our team ;)

02:45 <zombie67> hah!

02:46 <yoyo[RKN]> exeptional we will allow it

02:46 <zombie67> perhaps I could get them to let me participate as a team all by myself

02:46 <Tank_Master> and how will joining your team help mine?

02:46 <Tank_Master> lol

02:46 <Tank_Master> youd probably still do well to

02:47 <yoyo[RKN]> it will help WCG to find something against cancer and makes your life longer so you can participate longer in your team .

02:47 <yoyo[RKN]> ;)

02:48 <zombie67> I would like to participate, but my team needs to get their act together in the next day or so

02:49 <zombie67> may need to get dyctilos (sp?) to make me the team founder there

02:49 <zombie67> no normal function to assume founder at WCG, and even if so, takes two months

02:50 <zombie67> yoyo:  you realize that you will be hurting your own project by doing this...

02:50 <yoyo[RKN]> yes

02:51 <yoyo[RKN]> but there must be some fun

02:52 <zombie67> agreed

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03:41 <yoyo[RKN]> how can I sent a mail with attachment on Linux from a shell-/perl script?

03:46 <zombie67> dunno

03:46 <zombie67> last time I used command line for email was 20 years ago

03:46 <yoyo[RKN]> what time do you have zombie67

03:46 <zombie67> on SunOS 3

03:46 <zombie67> unix

03:46 <zombie67> the trick was "~r filename"

03:47 <zombie67> 12:48PM

03:47 <yoyo[RKN]> uh

03:47 <zombie67> or is that AM?

03:47 <zombie67> I can never tell with the 12s

03:47 <yoyo[RKN]> duno

03:48 <yoyo[RKN]> in german it is easier

03:48 <yoyo[RKN]> without am/pm

03:48 <Romulus> haha, all BOINC projects have native 64-bit integers regardless of the main executable file on machine that locked during game play

03:48 <zombie67> It is 00:49

03:49 <yoyo[RKN]> so your sunday is 50 minutes old )

03:49 <yoyo[RKN]> ;)

03:49 <zombie67> yes!

03:50 <zombie67> trying to participate in the challenge, but running into road blocks

03:52 <zombie67> If I leave a team, they keep my team points, right?

03:53 <zombie67> what happens if they kick me out?

03:53 <yoyo[RKN]> there was somthing special on WCG

03:53 <zombie67> yeah?

03:53 <yoyo[RKN]> other than for normal boinc projects

03:54 <zombie67> I think I heard that about CPDN too, but can't recall exactly

03:54 <yoyo[RKN]> think standard boinc is to keep the points in the team even if you leave

03:54 <yoyo[RKN]> wcg you take your credits with you

03:54 <yoyo[RKN]> but do not remember exactly

03:55 <yoyo[RKN]> s/remember/recall

03:55 <yoyo[RKN]> hmm

03:56 <zombie67> so, if I were to create a new team, crunch for the event, then go back to my old team, it all follows me?

03:56 <yoyo[RKN]> maybe

03:57 <zombie67> this is worth 750k-1M points, so need to be sure...

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05:26 <quail> g'evening all, how are we all?

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05:29 <zombie67> welcome back

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05:40 <yoyo[RKN]> ;)

05:53 <zombie67> time for bed.  goodnight!

05:53 <yoyo[RKN]> gn

05:53 <yoyo[RKN]> you cancelled some evos ;)

05:54 <zombie67> had to, for the WCG thing

05:54 <zombie67> you caused this!

05:54 <zombie67> ;)

05:55 <zombie67> delayed credits mean early crunching required

05:56 <zombie67> figured it was more fair of me to cancel them,m rather than just resetting or detaching.

05:56 <zombie67> that way they immediately go back into the pool

05:57 <zombie67> ok now to bed

05:57 <zombie67> gn

05:57 <Romulus> PovAddict: what do you participate in the server IP and theirs on the top 50 fastest supercomputers in the bedroom) it suffices

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06:26 <E-30> hey

06:31 <PriitM> halloz

06:35 <E-30> hey how are you doing

07:18 <E-30> wow were is everyone at today

07:19 <PriitM> enjoying weekend perhaps :)

07:20 <E-30> maybe

07:23 * CoderForLife finishes breakfast

07:23 <CoderForLife> morning folks

07:23 <PriitM> it's noon here

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07:23 <E-30> hey

07:23 <E-30> hey cfl

07:23 <CoderForLife> was it something I said, E-30?

07:24 <E-30> i sont know i jest went poof for a sec

07:24 <E-30> dont

07:24 <CoderForLife> lol

07:24 <CoderForLife> got to watch that poofing stuff

07:24 <E-30> well i am runnning under vista now it a pain in my ass to say the least

07:25 <E-30> i know

07:25 <E-30> and vista )-:

07:25 <CoderForLife> did you say you were running from Vista now?

07:25 <E-30> yea

07:25 <CoderForLife> you need to run faster

07:25 <E-30> why

07:26 <CoderForLife> it's still following you

07:26 <E-30> lol

07:26 <CoderForLife> get as far away as possible

07:27 <E-30> cant i hath to work under it now so i am going to make it run the way i what it to like i did with xp

07:27 <E-30> hope so at least

07:31 <CoderForLife> the security precautions in Vista drive me crazy

07:32 <E-30> i know jest to go to mirc i hath to say it ok to go there

07:32 <E-30> lol

07:34 <E-30> it running fast at least with 4 gb of ram backing it up

07:35 <E-30> vista rating of 5.6 out of 5.9

07:36 <CoderForLife> there's also a way to cache with a USB drive, to make it run even faster

07:37 <E-30> i have 4 gb there too

07:37 <CoderForLife> is that called something like "Boost"?

07:38 <E-30> redy boost

07:38 <E-30> ready boost

07:38 <E-30> there

07:38 <CoderForLife> yes

07:38 <CoderForLife> you running that?

07:38 <E-30> yea 4 gb of it

07:38 <E-30> on my 8 gb stick

07:38 <CoderForLife> you are truly in Vista heaven  =)

07:39 <E-30> i hope

07:39 <E-30> my hard drive is the lowest score of all at 5.6

07:39 <E-30> ram at 5.9  cpu is 5.9 and video at 5.9

07:39 <CoderForLife> nirvana

07:39 <E-30> lol

07:40 <E-30> its ok

07:40 <E-30> runs qmc faster thought

07:43 <CoderForLife> as it should

07:43 <E-30> i hope it is the same for my games

07:48 <CoderForLife> You're going to try to run *games* on Vista.... =)

07:50 <CoderForLife> what a far out concept

07:52 <E-30> ye a

07:52 <E-30> yea i am

07:52 <E-30> need for speed pro street

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07:55 <E-30> wow

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08:11 <E-30> well i dont konw what to do now

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08:25 <xcamel> 'l'lo

08:29 <CoderForLife> morning

08:29 <PriitM> hallos

08:30 * CoderForLife finshes reading some supporting wiki material regarding Battlestar Galactica Razor

08:31 <CoderForLife> bbiab

08:35 <xcamel> iy was ok..

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09:01 <CoderForLife> yeah, filled in several details

09:02 <xcamel> a couple of very strange twists...

09:02 <CoderForLife> uh-huh

09:03 <xcamel> bringing back the original cylons was interesting - even 'goldie'

09:03 <CoderForLife> lol  "by your command"

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09:07 <CoderForLife> the hybrids are interesting - "evolutionary dead-end" that forms the CPU of the basestars - I find that hard to fathom

09:07 <xcamel> 20 degrees warmer this morning

09:07 <CoderForLife> wow

09:08 <CoderForLife> 27F officially - 33F outside my window

09:08 <xcamel> never got above freezing yesterday

09:08 <xcamel> now 31F

09:08 <CoderForLife> we got to 42 or so

09:08 <CoderForLife> 50s today?

09:08 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

09:09 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 32.5F / 0.3C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 30.22in / 1023.2hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Warmer with highs around 50. Light southeast winds.; Tonight - .occasional showers...especially after midnight. Early lows in the lower 40s...then temperatures rising. Light east winds. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Monday (1 more message)

09:09 <xcamel> I was fixing tank heaters yesterday

09:09 <xcamel> and waiting for the hose to un-thaw

09:09 <CoderForLife> rain moving in

09:09 <xcamel> big rain for us tomorrow

09:09 <CoderForLife> I'm happy to be able to share

09:10 <CoderForLife> we'll put the rest of the Christmas lights out today - Stephen had homework to do yesterday

09:11 <CoderForLife> I did blow some leaves around

09:12 <CoderForLife> need to do the front of the house before the rain comes

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09:31 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86023

09:31 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 9F / -13C | Humidity: 51% | Pressure: 30.24in / 1024hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Today - Partly cloudy. Highs around 42 on the North Rim to around 61 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows around 21 on the North Rim to around 32 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Monday - Mostly cloudy in the (1 more message)

09:32 <xcamel> I don't do lights until middle of dec.

09:38 <CoderForLife> we wait until after Thankgiving - some folks around here go immediately from Halloween lights to Christmas lights to Easter Eggs hanging from the trees

09:42 <xcamel> shallow gene pool

09:44 <CoderForLife> too much money and time on their hands

09:44 <CoderForLife> or ill-used money

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09:52 <quail> g'evening all, how are we all?

09:54 * CoderForLife does a systems diagnostic

09:54 <CoderForLife> all systems nominal

09:55 <quail> CoderForLife: Hi Don, how are you? how was your thanks giving?

09:56 <CoderForLife> T-day seems like a distant memory, but it was good.  Didn't get together with the extended family due to my sister being sick.

09:57 <CoderForLife> watched BSG Razor last night, so I'm a bit sleepy this morning, even though I slept until 7:00am

09:58 <CoderForLife> doing w@#% homew@#% at the moment

09:58 <CoderForLife> we need to decide this week if we're going to build a new system

10:01 <quail> kewl

10:02 <quail> I been doing Me TV related stuff, like setting up a deb repo and hosting the offical web site

10:04 <quail> This the offical Me TV site now >>> http://me-tv.southernvaleslug.org/

10:04 <Romulus> Title: Me TV, it's TV for me computer (at me-tv.southernvaleslug.org)

10:12 <CoderForLife> yeah, I saw your blog update with the info

10:13 <quail> ah kewl :-)

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11:31 <CoderForLife> re-hi

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13:53 <MTughan> Awesome! http://www.wedonotuse.com/

13:53 <Romulus> Title: WeDoNotUse.com (at www.wedonotuse.com)

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14:04 <sethiroth66> hai

14:04 <MTughan> 'lo sethiroth66

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14:05 * freelarry has always wondered how sethiroth66 can join a project and have a blank for country for account

14:06 <PovAddict> he has UK, not a blank

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14:26 <freelarry> check sudoko tffe team

14:27 <PovAddict> hey hey kicking everybody's a$$ there :)

14:27 <freelarry> not me ;)

14:27 <PovAddict> your computer

14:27 <freelarry> cant be

14:28 * freelarry just cleared a trojan that this machine got by operator action - knew i should have used end task instead of clicking close x

14:28 <PovAddict> you got 19.5k, next on list has 1.3k

14:28 <freelarry> lol yah  a little

14:29 <freelarry> 32 for users overall but slipping

14:29 <PovAddict> #30 if sorting by RAC

14:30 <freelarry> will apologize to all if that trojan got your email from machine but i think i caught it in time and removed machine from internet access before it did much

14:30 <freelarry> rac will be slipping to PovAddict

14:31 <PovAddict> your top host #51 by RAC, #127 by total credit

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14:49 <xcamel> re-hi

14:51 <BadBarbarian> "lo xcamel

14:52 <MTughan> 'lo BB, Jay

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15:02 <xcamel> interesting:

15:02 <xcamel> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Sony-Might-Have-Gotten-it-Right-with-the-PS3-from-the-Beginning-70001.shtml

15:02 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1ABj> (at news.softpedia.com)

15:05 <MTughan> Wow... I almost doubled my RAC on TSP, and I still barely made it into the top 50...

15:06 <MTughan> zombie67...

15:07 <MTughan> Well, I found zombie67's 8-core Mac. http://bob.myisland.as/tsp//workunit.php?wuid=179363

15:08 * xcamel is really hoping this creeping grodie will burn itself out soon

15:08 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1ABn> (at bob.myisland.as)

15:08 <MTughan> He's 1211, I'm 322.

15:08 <MTughan> The other computer is an AMD 64 X2. How am I supposed to compete with that?!

15:10 <PovAddict> I have an AMD 64 X2 :)

15:10 <MTughan> Yeah, it's a dual-core 32-bit against a dual-core 64-bit and a dual quad-core 64-bit.

15:11 <PovAddict> have fun

15:11 <MTughan> I lost.

15:11 <PovAddict> go back to vectorTD, you win that one

15:11 <PovAddict> XD

15:11 <MTughan> lol

15:12 <CoderForLife> rain

15:12 <MTughan> Yeah, zombie67's 8-core has an RAC of 750. I just made it to 50!

15:13 <MTughan> If I were just running TSP WUs, I would about double that. But I'm also running SIMAP. I've put all other projects on hold.

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15:14 <mweltin> hey

15:14 <MTughan> 'lo mweltin

15:15 <MTughan> I've noticed some strange stuff with the validator on TSP. I have WUs that are both valid and invalid, and both are missing bestPath.

15:15 <Tidus> 'lo

15:15 <mweltin> yeah all kinds of problems

15:15 <MTughan> An invalid task: http://bob.myisland.as/tsp//result.php?resultid=950105

15:15 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1A9j> (at bob.myisland.as)

15:15 <Tank_Master> mw!

15:16 <MTughan> And a valid one: http://bob.myisland.as/tsp//result.php?resultid=950584

15:16 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1A9k> (at bob.myisland.as)

15:16 <mweltin> I think there is somethign wrong with my permutaiton gererator as well.

15:16 <CoderForLife> still raining

15:16 <Romulus> amd is unlocked but they did a lazy bumm

15:16 <Tank_Master> all sunny here

15:16 <CoderForLife> raining here

15:16 <PovAddict> wtf

15:16 <CoderForLife> still

15:16 <Tidus> icy here...

15:16 <MTughan> So you've said.

15:16 <CoderForLife> lol

15:16 <PovAddict> weather widget says 22C

15:17 <Tidus> &weather 72764

15:17 <mweltin> PovAddict, spotted a flaw in my logic, so I think the bestPath is fixed.

15:17 <MTughan> &weather Toronto

15:17 <Romulus> Tidus: Temperature: 37F / 3C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.99in / 1016hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h ; Rest of Today - Occasional rain showers. Highs around 40. Northeast winds around 10 mph. Chance of showers near 100 percent.; Tonight - Occasional rain. Lows in the lower 30s. Light winds becoming northwest up to 10 mph after midnight. Chance of rain 90 (1 more message)

15:17 <PovAddict> but it's 27C inside

15:17 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 43°F / 6°C | Humidity: 53% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 17mph / 28km/h | Updated: 3:00 PM EST; Today - Sunny with cloudy periods. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph). High 5C(41F).; Tonight - A few clouds. Increasing cloudiness late this evening with 30 percent chance of showers overnight. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light (1 more message)

15:17 <Tidus> &more

15:17 <Romulus> Tidus: percent.; Monday - Rain or snow likely in the morning...then slight chance of rain or snow in the afternoon. Little or no snow accumulation. Highs in the lower 40s. Northwest winds around 10 mph. Chance of precipitation 60 percent.;

15:17 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007 &more

15:17 <mweltin> I hvae not released it.

15:17 <MTughan> &more

15:17 <Romulus> MTughan: this evening. Low 2C(36F).; Monday - Cloudy with sunny periods. Periods of rain beginning in the afternoon. High 4C(39F).;

15:17 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 45.6F / 7.6C | Humidity: 65% | Pressure: 30.19in / 1022.2hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. Highs around 45. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows 30 to 35 except 25 to 30 in outlying areas. East wind 5 to 10 mph.; Monday - Patchy fog in the (1 more message)

15:17 <Tank_Master> &more

15:17 <Romulus> Tank_Master: morning. Rain in the afternoon. Highs around 45. South wind 5 to 15 mph.;

15:17 <PovAddict> what a mess

15:17 <MTughan> We're pushing Rommie, aren't we? xD

15:17 <Tank_Master> :P

15:17 <CoderForLife> see what I started?

15:17 <mweltin> I got a message from Jord warning me about crunch3r.

15:17 <CoderForLife> who says I can't have an impact?

15:17 <MTughan> CFL, it's all your fault! :P

15:18 <mweltin> and I still can't build under mingw.

15:18 <mweltin> oh and HELLO Tank_Master

15:18 <PovAddict> mweltin: warning?

15:18 <Tank_Master> hi ;), what he say about crunch3r?

15:19 <mweltin> yeah something about crunch3r accusing dotsch about stealing 'his' code.

15:19 <Tank_Master> ahh

15:19 <MTughan> His code for what?

15:19 <Tank_Master> dunno who dotsch is

15:19 <mweltin> I'm not sure it applies to me.  Now that you guys have seen the code, it is nothing to brag about,.

15:19 <mweltin> enigma

15:19 <Tank_Master> lol

15:19 <MTughan> I think most projects are open-source anyway.

15:20 <Tank_Master> most are closed

15:20 <Tank_Master> at least most of the older ones

15:20 <MTughan> Tank_Master: He made an unofficial BURP app for Mac, which has seemed to disappear anyway...

15:20 <MTughan> dotsch, that is.

15:20 <Tank_Master> ahh

15:20 <Tank_Master> probably had to much gass in it

15:21 <mweltin> I don't care too much, I'm grateful for crunch3rs help.

15:21 <Tank_Master> :)

15:21 <MTughan> My cat is lounging under my bed sheets...

15:21 <Tank_Master> yeah, he is good at what is does

15:21 <MTughan> Warmer under there than outside...

15:22 <Tank_Master> my cat desided to go outside in the 40f weather

15:22 <MTughan> &math convert 40 F to C

15:22 <Romulus> MTughan: 4.44444444444

15:22 <MTughan> Hehe... Warmer than that here, and my cat still didn't like it earlier today.

15:22 <efc> I think he left off some 4's

15:23 <MTughan> lol

15:23 <mweltin> so what troubles me more about my app than the best path is the fact that the start and end suffix's should be reverse sorted versions of one another

15:23 <mweltin> and they are not.

15:23 <mweltin> well at least not all the time.

15:23 <mweltin> I'm still checking on that.

15:24 <Tank_Master> with time all will be known

15:24 <Tank_Master> with more time all will be forgotten

15:24 <MTughan> Or most anyway.

15:24 <mweltin> LOL

15:24 <Tank_Master> :)

15:25 <MTughan> We'll still not know what Microsoft was thinking with Vista. xD

15:26 <PovAddict> http://www.bash.org/?21814

15:26 <Romulus> Title: QDB: Quote #21814 (at www.bash.org)

15:27 <MTughan> "Message from server: Project encountered internal error: shared memory"

15:27 <MTughan> From BURP.

15:27 <Tank_Master> doh!

15:28 <PovAddict> I'm keeping an archive of seti stats

15:28 <PovAddict> I have only 5 days of stats and using 2gigs... I'm working on making diffs

15:29 <Tank_Master> ill bbl

15:29 <mweltin> bye

15:29 <MTughan> Bye.

15:29 * MTughan mutilates Tank_Master with a holy shovel

15:31 <mweltin> I have to get ready to dive soon.

15:31 <MTughan> mweltin: Are all the apps going to be upgrade to a new version? Looks like there is a 2.12 and a 2.13...

15:31 <mweltin> Are you going to be on?

15:31 <mweltin> yes I want to make a 2.14 that are all using the same code base

15:31 <MTughan> Okay.

15:31 <mweltin> the only thing that is fixed is the bestPath.

15:31 <MTughan> Is that ready in SVN, or should I hold out?

15:32 <mweltin> I can't find a result that has the glitch I'm looking for.

15:32 <MTughan> And what is that?

15:32 <mweltin> oh you can grab stuff out of svn now.

15:33 <mweltin> PovAddict, can you crank out a mingW 2.14 please?

15:33 <mweltin> I'm still having trouble even with hte make file you gave me.

15:33 <MTughan> You want the new Mac apps now?

15:33 <mweltin> I just have way too much going on.

15:33 <mweltin> MTughan, yes please, it its not too much trouble.

15:34 <PovAddict> updating svn

15:34 <MTughan> Just have to upload the bunzip.

15:34 <mweltin> I have to leave in about 10 min for a dive, but

15:34 <PovAddict> crap

15:34 <mweltin> what?

15:34 <MTughan> http://michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org/tsp.tar.bz2

15:34 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1-5w> (at michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org)

15:34 <PovAddict> MTughan: that was FAST

15:34 <MTughan> Yay for Makefiles! :D

15:35 <mweltin> wow

15:35 <PovAddict> mweltin: I did custom mods to the api code... I'm not sure if it would work ...

15:35 <PovAddict> reverting

15:35 <PovAddict> there we go

15:35 <mweltin> of course you did

15:35 <MTughan> I just have to type two commands and I've got the latest build: "make update" and "make".

15:36 <PovAddict> who the frak changed Containers.cpp to point to an absolute path >.>

15:36 <PovAddict> #include "E:\Expat\lib\expat.h"

15:36 <MTughan> Nice...

15:36 <mweltin> ahhhh mmmmmm

15:36 <mweltin> me

15:36 <MTughan> lol

15:36 <mweltin> it was tweaking stuff while in a meeting.

15:36 <mweltin> I'll change that back

15:36 <MTughan> Wait, why didn't mine update Containers.cpp?

15:37 <MTughan> Oh, it did.

15:37 <PovAddict> damn... again gotta merge svn changes with mine

15:37 <BadBarbarian> howdy guys

15:37 <MTughan> 'lo BB

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15:37 <PovAddict> MTughan: #ifdef WIN32

15:37 <MTughan> Ah, that's why mine worked fine...

15:37 <MTughan> Yeah, just opened it.

15:37 <MTughan> And that's _WIN32.

15:38 <PovAddict> http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar/tsp_19.exe

15:39 <PovAddict> please dont download if you're not mweltin... so that it's faster for him...

15:39 <MTughan> Hehe...

15:39 <PovAddict> two people downloading = 6KB/s each

15:40 <MTughan> Two people?

15:40 <mweltin> I already downloaded it.

15:40 <MTughan> PovAddict: I think I know who one is...

15:40 <MTughan> Romulus?

15:40 <mweltin> I have my build, and your builds, and I'll install them as soon as I get back.

15:40 <PovAddict> I was just saying how much it would be

15:40 <PovAddict> I don't know how many people are downloading

15:41 <mweltin> I'll depricate the other apps, turn on the strict error checking in hte validator and watch for the sequence error.

15:43 <mweltin> see you guys in a few hours.

15:43 <MTughan> Bye.

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15:43 <MTughan> PovAddict: What does str2intVec do?

15:43 <PovAddict> I have no idea

15:43 <PovAddict> it's somewhere on lib/

15:44 <MTughan> Ah...

15:44 <MTughan> I'm trying to trace down where bestPath goes.

15:47 <MTughan> PovAddict: "string". Is it a standard class or one mweltin did? I've never heard of it.

15:48 <PovAddict> standard C++

15:48 <MTughan> So I guess str.find_first_not_of() does what it sounds like?

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15:49 <PovAddict> http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/string/string/find_first_not_of.html

15:49 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1AC6> (at www.cplusplus.com)

15:49 * PovAddict hits Romulus

15:49 <MTughan> Oh, thanks...

15:55 <yoyo[RKN]> hmm

15:56 <yoyo[RKN]> think it is easier to make 3 applications for different computation times

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16:03 <MTughan> Looks like there's only one thing that can explain this at this point: getdist().

16:04 <MTughan> Wait, it's not that... Damn.

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16:18 <CoderForLife> away for awhile

16:19 <Romulus> status says 4,000 results to users in #boinc

16:20 <PriitM> sweet, i got bunch of 1.1 hour WUs =)

16:22 <yoyo[RKN]> which project PriitM?

16:23 <PriitM> s@h

16:38 <xcamel> back again, again

16:39 <Tidus> wb

16:55 <xcamel> 'lo Tidus

16:56 <xcamel> almost got warm today

16:56 <Tank_Master> lol

16:56 <Tank_Master> is there a way for rommie to just display the current weather, instead of the current and the forcast?

16:56 <PovAddict> no

16:56 <xcamel> yes..

16:57 <PovAddict> "/msg Romulus weather [whatever]" so you don't flood the channel

16:57 <xcamel> nope..

16:57 <xcamel> what city?

16:58 <Tank_Master> nine seven double oh seven

16:58 <Tank_Master> (97007)

16:58 <PovAddict> ¬¬

16:58 <xcamel> &cnn 97007

16:58 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

16:58 <xcamel> &ham 97007

16:58 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: No such location could be found.

16:58 <Tank_Master> portland, or

16:58 <xcamel> &zipinfo 97007

16:58 <Romulus> xcamel: City: Beaverton; State: OR; County: Washington; Area Code: 503; Time Zone: PST; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 45.4535 (North); Longitude: 122.8761 (West)

16:59 <Tank_Master> or beaverton

16:59 <PovAddict> &list weather

16:59 <Romulus> PovAddict: cnn, ham, weather, wunder, and wunder rss

16:59 <xcamel> &ham  beaverton, or

16:59 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: No such location could be found.

16:59 <Tank_Master> or hillsboro

16:59 <xcamel> &ham  beaverton OR

16:59 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: No such location could be found.

16:59 <xcamel> geeez...

16:59 <Tank_Master> &ham  Portland, or

16:59 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: No such location could be found.

16:59 <xcamel> &ham Portland OR

16:59 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: No such location could be found.

16:59 <xcamel> &ham Portland

16:59 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: No such location could be found.

16:59 <Tank_Master> o.O?

17:00 <PriitM> &ham Tallinn

17:00 <Romulus> PriitM: Error: No such location could be found.

17:00 <xcamel> &cnn Portland OR

17:00 <Tank_Master> how can the largest city in oregon not be found?

17:00 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

17:00 <PriitM> how can the largest city in estonia not be found?

17:00 <xcamel> stupid bot - that used to work fine

17:00 <PovAddict> CNN blocked you

17:00 <PovAddict> ?

17:01 <Tank_Master> &ham  oregon

17:01 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: No such location could be found.

17:01 <Tank_Master> &ham  pdx

17:01 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: No such location could be found.

17:01 <Tank_Master> &cnn  pdx

17:01 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

17:02 <Tank_Master> &wunder 97007

17:02 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: No such location could be found.

17:02 <Tank_Master> &wunder pdx

17:02 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: No such location could be found.

17:02 <Tank_Master> &wunder portland, or

17:02 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: No such location could be found.

17:02 <Tank_Master> forget it

17:05 <Tank_Master> do we know what script the weather is from?

17:05 <Tank_Master> !weather 97007

17:05 <PovAddict> download the weather plugin for supybot and look at the code :)

17:06 <yoyo[RKN]> PovAddict : how is your boinc project running?

17:07 <BadBarbarian> tank here its

17:07 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86023

17:07 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 50F / 10C | Humidity: 12% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1019hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: Variable | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h ; Today - Partly cloudy. Highs around 42 on the North Rim to around 61 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows around 21 on the North Rim to around 32 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Monday - Mostly cloudy in the (1 more message)

17:07 <BadBarbarian> &more

17:07 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: morning then becoming partly cloudy. Highs around 44 on the North Rim to around 66 along the Colorado River. Light winds.;

17:07 <yoyo[RKN]> some of my team member want to know what happens with impfarm

17:07 <Tank_Master> no, i dont want the forcast part

17:07 <Tank_Master> @ BB ^^

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17:08 <Tank_Master> lol

17:08 <BadBarbarian> oh no rommies gone

17:08 <BadBarbarian> lol hes back

17:08 <xcamel> &weather 12074

17:08 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 35.3F / 1.8C | Humidity: 59% | Pressure: 30.24in / 1023.9hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A chance of freezing rain and snow after midnight. Lows in the upper 20s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation 50 percent.; Monday - Rain...freezing rain and light sleet in the morning...then rain in the afternoon. (2 more messages)

17:08 <Tank_Master> &weather current 97007

17:08 <xcamel> &cnn 12074

17:08 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 48.0F / 8.9C | Humidity: 59% | Pressure: 30.17in / 1021.6hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. Highs around 45. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows 30 to 35 except 25 to 30 in outlying areas. East wind 5 to 10 mph.; Monday - Patchy fog in the (1 more message)

17:09 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

17:09 <xcamel> &ham 12074

17:09 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: No such location could be found.

17:09 <xcamel> nutz

17:09 <Tank_Master> &more

17:09 <Romulus> Tank_Master: morning. Rain in the afternoon. Highs around 45. South wind 5 to 15 mph.;

17:10 <Tank_Master> hope the rain comes after it gets back above 32 ;)

17:10 <xcamel> we could get over an inch tomorrow..

17:10 <Tank_Master> but wouldnt be the first time we had freezing rain

17:10 <Tank_Master> or ice?

17:10 <Tank_Master> of*

17:10 <xcamel> should be all rain

17:10 <Tank_Master> ahh

17:11 <Tank_Master> an inch  of rain a da is normal for here ;)

17:11 <yoyo[RKN]> &weather berlin

17:11 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 37°F / 3°C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 16mph / 26km/h | Updated: 10:50 PM CET; Chance of Rain. High:44 F. / 7 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:32 F. / 0 C.; Clear. High:37 F. / 3 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:28 F. / -2 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:37 F. / 3 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:30 F. / -1 (1 more message)

17:12 <Tank_Master> xcamle -

17:12 <Tank_Master> this you? http://supybot.com/forums/users/656971034066

17:12 <Romulus> Title: Wether plugin needs updating.. Supybot Website (at supybot.com)

17:14 <xcamel> "updating" is kind of a rough term...

17:14 <Tank_Master> lol

17:14 <Tank_Master> true

17:14 <Tank_Master> but look who posted it...

17:16 <Tank_Master> anywho, ill bbl

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18:01 <MTughan> Hehe... Pi...

18:02 <PovAddict> or pie

18:02 <MTughan> Pi. It was a Greek letter.

18:02 <MTughan> I believe it's the equivalent of our "T".

18:02 <PovAddict> not P?

18:02 <MTughan> Believe it or not.

18:03 <Romulus> I bet they are not what you're doing

18:05 <MTughan> Oh, nevermind, it is a "P". Hehe...

18:08 <PriitM> stop being such kiddies, it's urinate :>

18:09 <PovAddict> pi, not pee

18:09 <MTughan> Greek, it's pronounced "pee". Like our letter.

18:09 <PriitM> i know :>

18:09 <PriitM> well i don't actually

18:09 <MTughan> Wikipedia has a lot of interesting info...

18:10 <PriitM> i'm fully aware of that.

18:11 <xcamel> ...most of it wrong.

18:11 <PriitM> i belive there's lots of correct information as well

18:12 <PriitM> it's late here, i should get some sleep

18:13 <PriitM> good night

18:13 <MTughan> Night.

18:13 <PriitM> or day...

18:13 <MTughan> lol

18:14 <xcamel> sleep is always good...

18:27 <Soul_keeper> any of you played Quake IV  ?

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18:41 <BadBarbarian> tank you here

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19:36 <mweltin> LOL  "xml is like violence. If it doesn't solve the problems, use more" -Pov

19:36 <Tank_Master> :)

19:37 <Tank_Master> howdy soul_keeper

19:37 <mweltin> this blows, something is getting hung up on the sequence during checkpoints.

19:38 <mweltin> Not sure what.

19:41 <mweltin> I may know ..... this could be good.

19:42 <mweltin> say Tank_Master  where is everyone, PovAddict , and MTughan ?

19:42 <PovAddict> I was watching TV till a moment ago

19:43 <mweltin> I just saw that moive "No end in sight" about US policy in iraq war.

19:43 <PovAddict> ARGH, seti stats for a particular day are in an almost-random order :\ this screws up my diffs because the file changes too much

19:43 <mweltin> I think it was more depressing than Al Gore's movie.

19:44 <xcamel> both movies are utter bunk...

19:44 <xcamel> and even give "utters" a bad name

19:48 <Tank_Master> lol

19:48 <Tank_Master> both are probably put out by the far left demicratic people to discredit the  repubilcan president

19:49 <Tank_Master> its sad howfar the demicrats are going to keep their power and control

19:50 <xcamel> manbearpig's movie is completely junk science

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19:50 <Tank_Master> is it even science?

19:50 <Romulus> for creating work if i remember a comic where there was a bit slow today

19:50 <xcamel> barely

19:51 <xcamel> and thoroughly discredited

19:51 <Tank_Master> so more opinion than science ;)

19:51 <xcamel> just meant to scare people, and help make algore more rich - see "lear jet liberals"

19:52 <xcamel> "No end in sight" is 100% leftist propaganda

19:53 <xcamel> antiwar pinko crowd..

19:56 <mweltin> I have been doing too much php, I just wrote for($i in a C prog and coun't figure out why it wouldn't compile.

20:00 <mweltin> on a lighter note I liked oceans 13

20:00 <PovAddict> mweltin: I remember somebody who wrote "Dim i as Integer" on a C program and said "TOO MUCH BASIC AT SCHOOL!"

20:00 <PovAddict> then typed "int i;" a hundred times to get back to sanity

20:04 <mweltin> lol

20:04 <PovAddict> testers say XP SP3 indeed improves performance

20:04 <mweltin> I saw your signature on one of those mail to project list.

20:04 <mweltin> I about fell out of my chair.

20:05 <PovAddict> I saw it on the topic of #xml on this IRC server, a long time ago

20:05 <mweltin> classic

20:08 <mweltin> PovAddict, I think I know what is wrong with my app. I'm running a few tests now.  The loop counter was counting among other things how many times the (genNextSequece) was called.

20:08 <xcamel> wow... big slug of ugly headed this way...

20:08 <xcamel> lucky it won't be snow...

20:08 <mweltin> now that there is a inner loop, the number of perms generated and the loopcounter are out of synch (I think) not sure yet.

20:14 <Soul_keeper> ahhh the memories, i just threw away my voodoo 5 box, still had the original price tag and plastic wrap on it :(

20:14 <Tank_Master> I woulda taken it

20:17 <xcamel> empty box?

20:19 <Tank_Master> to play with

20:19 <Tank_Master> and it dose has some bragging rights that come with it ;)

20:19 <Tank_Master> to bad they sold to nvidia

20:19 <Tank_Master> the voodoo cards rocked

20:26 <xcamel> nvidia cards were better...

20:27 <xcamel> "back in the day" I wrote drivers for the riva, and the 128

20:28 <xcamel> long, long ago...

20:28 <xcamel> well... off with me....

20:29 <Tank_Master> gn

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20:33 <rubiks120> hi

20:34 <mweltin> does this work ? given two vector<int>'s A and B   can I say A == B ?

20:34 <mweltin> I want is an element by element check .

20:35 <rubiks120> C++?

20:35 <mweltin> yeah

20:36 <rubiks120> I want to say you need to use some kind of for look to do an element by element check

20:36 <mweltin> I thought so, but I was just hopeful.

20:36 <rubiks120> but Im not sure I havent used C++ in a while

20:37 <rubiks120> C++ has some kind of check length function right?

20:37 <rubiks120> that checks the number of elements?

20:39 <rubiks120> if thats the case then all you need is a for(i=0; i <= (num of elements); i++) to check each although that wont break out if you get one thats not equal

20:39 <mweltin> yeah

20:41 <rubiks120> I suppose you could use a while statement while element a == element b increment i until you have checked every element

20:56 <PovAddict> you probably should use the STL iterators to go thru the vector

20:56 <mweltin> I am

20:56 <PovAddict> I didn't find any method to compare two vectors' contents

20:56 <mweltin> I made a cmpPerm method

20:57 <PovAddict> ah, C++ algorithms :)

20:57 <Romulus> the only person stupid enough to get that working, learn the ins and outs of boinc, i use gentoo

20:57 <PovAddict> http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/algorithm/equal.html

20:57 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1AFv> (at www.cplusplus.com)

20:57 <mweltin> I'm watching ocean's 13 as well so its taking a while.

20:59 <PovAddict> bool equal(A.begin(), A.end(), B.begin())

21:00 <mweltin> that would have been better.

21:00 <mweltin> I always forget about the algorithms.

21:17 <mweltin> PovAddict, do the checkpoints run in a different thread?

21:17 <PovAddict> no, you run them yourself, on the same thread as all the rest

21:18 <mweltin> ok

21:37 <Tank_Master> its a balmy 34f out now

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22:33 <BiteAbleKat> 36 here

22:34 <MTughan> Heh, I would guess about 2C here...

22:35 <MTughan> 4C, 39F.

22:35 <Tank_Master> so much for global worming

22:35 <mweltin> &weather 96799

22:35 <Romulus> mweltin: Temperature: 77F / 25C | Humidity: 66% | Pressure: 29.91in / 1013hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h ; Today - Occasional showers with isolated thunderstorms. Highs in the mid 80s. Variable winds 10 mph...with higher gusts in showers.; Tonight and Thursday - Scattered showers with isolated thunderstorms. Lows near 80. High near 90. Variable winds 10 (1 more message)

22:36 <mweltin> its  always nice here.

22:36 <MTughan> Hehe...

22:36 <mweltin> still having a hard time fixing this code.

22:36 <PovAddict> weather widget says: 19C

22:36 <MTughan> mweltin: Where does it count the loops?

22:36 <mweltin> its clear the perm genrator and the loop counts get out of sync, but if anything the loop counts should fall behind.

22:37 <mweltin> its counting the outer loop

22:37 <MTughan> Yeah, but where? The only place I see loopctr is in the checkpointing.

22:38 <mweltin> so if anything the permgenerator stays ahead of the loop

22:38 <mweltin> where else woul dyou like to see it.

22:38 <mweltin> hold on

22:38 <mweltin> I'll be right back.

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22:39 <MTughan> Now I gotta figure out the logic of his permutation generator...

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22:59 <MTughan> 'lo BB

22:59 <PovAddict> wtf

22:59 <PovAddict> I spent a long time making these xdeltas, and now they don't work

22:59 <BadBarbarian> lo everyone

22:59 <PovAddict> that better not mean I lost the data

23:00 <MTughan> And SIMAP is stopped for now in favour of TSP...

23:01 <Tank_Master> I stoped simap a while ago :)

23:02 <MTughan> Hehe... http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20071125

23:02 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1AHO> (at ars.userfriendly.org)

23:02 <MTughan> Has a small relationship to S@H.

23:02 <Tank_Master> lol

23:04 <Tank_Master> theres a thery out there that each time SETI has an unexpected shutdown, they really did find something, but the government has them report it securtly then scrub the info from the systems ;)

23:04 <MTughan> lol

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23:14 <BiteAbleKat> http://www.aurant.com/signaturefeature.php

23:14 <Romulus> Title: Aurant : Signature Featured Products (at www.aurant.com)

23:14 <Tank_Master> mmmmm

23:14 <Tank_Master> tube amps

23:15 <Tank_Master> only 20,000 for a mono amp :P

23:20 <MTughan> NO! Expert Minesweeper puzzle, two mines left, and I make a stupid decision!

23:21 <Tank_Master> LOL

23:21 <Tank_Master> sucks, eh?

23:21 <PovAddict> ...you're playing minesweeper?

23:21 <Tank_Master> hehe

23:21 <MTughan> Yeah, it sucks...

23:22 <MTughan> And what's wrong with Minesweeper?

23:23 <PovAddict> gah

23:23 <PovAddict> 103MB of unusable diffs

23:24 <MTughan> Ow... On that page, a $125,000 speaker set...

23:24 <Tank_Master> :P

23:24 <Tank_Master> cheep stuff

23:24 <MTughan> Cheap as in poorly made, or cheap as in inexpensive? :P

23:25 <MTughan> If the latter, what the heck have you been buying?

23:25 <Tank_Master> plasma speakers are still spendy

23:26 <PovAddict> I think it was "cheap" as in "sarcasm"

23:26 <Tank_Master> $25,000 a "speaker", but that dosent include the box or other speakers

23:26 <MTughan> Hehe... I know. :P

23:26 <Tank_Master> you can only get then in mid and high frequencys for now

23:27 <MTughan> What about the $250,000 projector? Personally, I don't fancy spending a quarter million dollars on a video projector.

23:27 <Tank_Master> but, with no moving parts, the clarity is something no traditional speaker can touch

23:27 <MTughan> Oh, you have one?

23:27 <Tank_Master> it only goes up to 1280x1024 to, thats not good

23:27 <Tank_Master> a shop near here has some

23:28 <Tank_Master> they sale really high end stuff

23:28 <MTughan> 5000 Lumens is massive though. And apparently it's got a lot of processing circuits.

23:29 <PovAddict> I should get outta here

23:29 <MTughan> Oh, well I thought it was big... Where my church got its projector, you can get up to 12,000 it looks like.

23:29 <MTughan> Oh, 15,000...

23:30 <MTughan> http://www.eiki.com/Products/LC-XT5

23:30 <Romulus> Title: Theater LCD Data Video Projector Eiki LC-XT5 (at www.eiki.com)

23:30 <Tank_Master> gn pov

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23:32 <MTughan> 'lo e

23:32 <efc> hey

23:33 <efc> I'm way behind but.. anybody else catch BSG last night?

23:33 <MTughan> BSG?

23:33 <efc> galactica

23:33 <MTughan> Ah... Never watched it.

23:34 <MTughan> From BiteAbleKat: http://www.aurant.com/signaturefeature.php

23:34 <Romulus> Title: Aurant : Signature Featured Products (at www.aurant.com)

23:34 <Romulus> I've got to make a port for it.

23:34 <Tank_Master> its on my DRV right now ;)

23:34 <Tank_Master> ill get to watching it later in the week

23:35 <efc> It has a nice nod to the old series (at least I think it is since i never saw it)

23:38 <Tank_Master> I downloaded it

23:38 <Tank_Master> didnt finish watching it though :P

23:56 <MTughan> Agh... More anguish. I was off the fastest time for Expert in Minesweeper by 4 seconds...

23:57 <efc> Minesweeper is supposed to be NP-complete. Maybe you should create a giant one and a BOINC project to solve it. Seems to be in style.

23:57 <Tank_Master> LOL

23:57 <MTughan> lol

23:57 <Tank_Master> dont give us ideas ;)

23:58 <Tank_Master> one credit per square cleared by not hiting a mine ;)

23:58 <Tank_Master> 2 credits if they have a number

23:59 <MTughan> efc: How big?

23:59 <MTughan> Oh, you want fast times too? Create a 100x100 puzzle with 10 mines. xD

23:59 <Tank_Master> lol

23:59 <Tank_Master> big credits for those

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