IRC logs of #boinc for Wednesday, 2007-11-28

00:05 <rubiks120|afk> hi

00:06 <Tank_Master> wb

00:06 <rubiks120|afk> ty

00:06 <rubiks120|afk> rough day at the pool table today

00:10 <rubiks120|afk> but Im done for the day

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00:20 <Tank_Master> wb

00:28 <Soul_keeper> bla

00:28 <Tank_Master> howdy

00:28 <MTughan> &cad

00:28 <Romulus> http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php

00:29 <MTughan> Oh, that's awkward...

00:29 <MTughan> &xkcd

00:29 <Romulus> http://www.xkcd.com/

00:30 <MTughan> rofl

00:30 <Tank_Master> :P

00:31 <MTughan> Anyway, I'm off to bed...

00:31 <Tank_Master> tc

00:31 <MTughan> Damn, /setaway isn't there anymore...

00:32 <Tank_Master> lol

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00:55 <Tank_Master> yo yoyo!

00:55 <yoyo[RKN]> jo

00:56 <yoyo[RKN]> <---- breakfast

00:56 <Tank_Master> <---- past dinner

00:57 <rubiks120> <--- past 1 am snack

00:57 <Tank_Master> hehe

00:59 <rubiks120> best time of the day

00:59 <Tank_Master> lol

01:00 <rubiks120> its quiet and peaceful

01:04 <Tank_Master> same in here

01:05 <rubiks120> oo I even get some snow flurries outside right now

01:05 <Tank_Master> SWEET!

01:05 <rubiks120> yup

01:05 <Tank_Master> its to warm here now

01:05 <Tank_Master> but we did have icey loads this monring

01:05 <rubiks120> my computer is telling me its 45 outside

01:05 <Tank_Master> roads*

01:05 <Tank_Master> mine says its 44

01:06 <Tank_Master> sont believe it since it was 39 at dinner time

01:06 <rubiks120> yea

01:06 <rubiks120> it was colder at dinner time here too, only 34

01:07 <Tank_Master> 35 here now

01:07 <rubiks120> hmm thats odd

01:07 <yoyo[RKN]> -4 here

01:07 <rubiks120> ouch, thats rough yoyo, I dont want to be there right now

01:08 <rubiks120> Im enjoying this weather still on the edge of shorts weather

01:09 <Tank_Master> &math convert -4 celecious to farenheight

01:09 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: celecious is not a valid unit.

01:09 <Tank_Master> faa

01:09 <Tank_Master> el piece of crappo

01:09 <rubiks120> Tank you have a typo there

01:10 <rubiks120> &math convert -4 celsius to farenheight

01:10 <Romulus> rubiks120: Error: celsius is not a valid unit.

01:10 <Tank_Master> &math convert -4 celsuis to farenheight

01:10 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: celsuis is not a valid unit.

01:10 <rubiks120> doh

01:10 <rubiks120> &math convert -4 C to F

01:10 <Romulus> rubiks120: 24.8

01:10 <rubiks120> there we go

01:10 <Tank_Master> gaa

01:10 <Tank_Master> go figure

01:11 <rubiks120> yea

01:11 <rubiks120> think simple

01:11 <Tank_Master> to bad they arent all simple

01:11 <rubiks120> what do you mean?

01:12 <Tank_Master> some of the other conversion are the shorthand

01:12 <Tank_Master> arent*

01:12 <rubiks120> oo

01:12 <rubiks120> thats a pretty nice bot though

01:13 <Tank_Master> weather.com is saying Rain/ Snow showers for friday and sunday for here

01:13 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

01:13 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 39.3F / 4.1C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 30.48in / 1032.1hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then mostly cloudy. A slight chance of showers mainly in the evening. Areas of fog. Lows around 30. Light wind.; Wednesday - Cloudy. Areas of fog in the morning. Light rain likely in the afternoon. Highs (1 more message)

01:13 <Tank_Master> &more

01:13 <Romulus> Tank_Master: around 40. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Wednesday Night - Rain in the evening...then showers after midnight. Lows around 35. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the southwest 5 to 15 mph after midnight.;

01:13 <yoyo[RKN]> &weather berlin

01:13 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 25°F / -4°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 30.27in / 1025hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 6:50 AM CET; Scattered Clouds. High:37 F. / 3 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:24 F. / -4 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:39 F. / 4 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:30 F. / -1 C.; Overcast. High:42 F. / 6 C.; Rain. Low:35 F. / 2 C.;

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01:17 <rubiks120> &weather 06269

01:17 <Romulus> rubiks120: Temperature: 44F / 7C | Humidity: 49% | Pressure: 30.10in / 1019hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h ; Overnight - Partly cloudy. A slight chance of snow showers. Much cooler with lows in the upper 20s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Gusts up to 20 mph...increasing to 30 mph. Chance of snow 20 percent.; Wednesday - Sunny. Much cooler with highs in the lower 40s. (1 more message)

01:17 <rubiks120> nice

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02:32 <Tank_Master> gn

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03:19 <freelarry> &zipinfo 06269

03:19 <Romulus> freelarry: City: Storrs Mansfield; State: CT; County: Tolland; Area Code: 860; Time Zone: EST; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 41.8088 (North); Longitude: 72.2487 (West)

03:20 <freelarry> &zipinfo 98366

03:20 <Romulus> freelarry: City: Port Orchard; State: WA; County: Kitsap; Area Code: 360; Time Zone: PST; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 47.5378 (North); Longitude: 122.5894 (West)

03:20 <freelarry> &zipinfo 52601

03:20 <Romulus> freelarry: City: Burlington; State: IA; County: Des Moines; Area Code: 319; Time Zone: CST; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 40.8532 (North); Longitude: 91.1004 (West)

03:30 <Tidus> &weather 72764

03:30 <Romulus> Tidus: Temperature: 45.1F / 7.3C | Humidity: 64% | Pressure: 30.17in / 1021.6hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 10.0mph / 16.1km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the lower 40s. South winds 10 to 15 mph.; Wednesday - Partly cloudy in the morning then becoming mostly cloudy. Highs in the upper 50s. Southwest winds 10 to 20 mph.; Wednesday Night - Partly cloudy in the (1 more message)

03:31 <Tidus> &zipinfo 72764

03:31 <Romulus> Tidus: City: Springdale; State: AR; County: Washington; Area Code: 479; Time Zone: CST; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 36.1771 (North); Longitude: 94.0897 (West)

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04:13 <CoderForLife> morning, any and all

04:24 <CoderForLife> brb  breakfast

04:34 <CoderForLife> b

04:34 * CoderForLife sneezes

04:39 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

04:40 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 27.2F / -2.7C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 30.42in / 1030.0hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Warmer with highs in the mid 50s. South winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then mostly cloudy with isolated rain showers after midnight. Lows in the lower 30s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of (1 more message)

04:40 <CoderForLife> &more

04:40 <Romulus> CoderForLife: rain 20 percent.; Thursday - Mostly sunny. Cooler with highs in the lower 40s. West winds 10 to 15 mph.;

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04:44 * quail is surprisingly tired and all he has done is household chores today

04:51 * CoderForLife is just tired

04:55 <CoderForLife> I guess I'm going to get to w@#% early - got so much to do, and family issues are looking like they are going to intervene as well

04:55 <CoderForLife> laterzzz

05:04 <PriitM> someone please turn the sun off, i can't play starcraft

05:05 <quail> click

05:49 <xcamel> boo

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06:11 <BadBarbarian> morning

06:13 <PriitM> hai2u

06:20 <BadBarbarian> hi

07:12 <MTughan> Ooh, nice split...

07:12 <MTughan> About two and a half hours ago.

07:12 <MTughan> Wait, three and a half...

07:12 <MTughan> Anyway, my Mac is staying here today, so just let mweltin know if he comes and sees me sitting on the channel.

07:12 <MTughan> Because I don't even have subversion yet! :P

07:15 <MTughan> Cool... Xcode and Interface Builder are workin' fine.

07:20 <MTughan> Well, I'm off. See you all later.

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07:22 <wdsmia> mornin Jay

07:23 <hawmps> Hi

07:23 <hawmps> graceful recovery from an LVM crash

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08:10 <quail> can anyone tell me if this domain is work yet please >>> http://tosty.southernvaleslug.org/

08:10 <PriitM> Site Under Construction

08:11 <quail> sweet it propagated, I only made that site like 10 min ago :-)

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08:23 <hawmps> picked up here too..

08:24 <quail> kewl :-)

08:24 <quail> hi Jay, how are you mate?

08:25 <hawmps> good enough

08:25 <quail> Jay wow look at the snow at your place, love the bigger images

08:25 <hawmps> thanks

08:26 <quail> I guess they running at full res now? 640x480?

08:27 <hawmps> I found a better way to get the images in without killing the bandwidth

08:27 <quail> :-)

08:27 <quail> the images look great :-)

08:28 <hawmps> need to "up" the jpeg quality just a bit

08:29 <quail> still good tho, I see what needed

08:51 <hawmps> should be a bit better now

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09:53 <hawmps> &weather 12020

09:53 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 34.9F / 1.6C | Humidity: 62% | Pressure: 30.27in / 1024.9hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 7.0mph / 11.3km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Cold with highs in the upper 30s. North winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s. East winds around 5 mph...increasing to south 10 to 15 mph after midnight.; Thursday - A chance of snow showers (1 more message)

09:53 <hawmps> &more

09:53 <Romulus> hawmps: in the morning. Mostly cloudy with a chance of rain showers. Highs in the mid 40s. Southwest winds around 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of precipitation 50 percent.;

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10:43 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

10:43 <Tank_Master> &more

10:43 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.

10:43 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 39.0F / 3.9C | Humidity: 90% | Pressure: 30.44in / 1030.7hPa | Conditions: Fog | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Cloudy. Areas of fog in the morning. Local dense fog early with visibility one quarter mile. Patchy freezing fog possible early. Rain likely in the afternoon. Highs around 40. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Rain in the evening...then (1 more message)

10:43 <Tank_Master> &more

10:43 <Romulus> Tank_Master: showers after midnight. Lows around 35. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the southwest 5 to 15 mph after midnight.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy. Showers likely in the morning...then a chance of showers in the afternoon. Highs around 45. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph.;

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12:46 <hawmps> boof...

13:30 <TM-Work> quiet day

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13:47 <freelarry> &quiet

13:47 <Romulus> Shhhhh... Day Sleepers

13:47 <freelarry> well got a hold of one contractor to give estimate for flooring here

13:48 <freelarry> they'll be over on friday to give estimate

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13:54 <hawmps> very...

13:55 <hawmps> kiddies are all sleeping

13:57 <freelarry> dreaming of sugarplums dancing in head .. waiting ohh so patiently for St. Nick to appear

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14:17 <Tank_Master> I was dreaming of GeFoce 8800s dancing in my head...

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14:20 * yoyo_RKN needs a mac

14:20 * Tank_Master slaps yoyo for saying that

14:21 * yoyo_RKN needs a mac for testing

14:22 * PovAddict slaps Tank_Master for slapping

14:22 * Tank_Master 's nervs are being tested by yoyo

14:22 * Tank_Master kicks PovAddict

14:23 * yoyo_RKN slaps Tank_Master with a 80h ogr wu

14:24 * Tank_Master is horrifyed

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14:25 <PovAddict> stop

14:25 <PovAddict> slapping

14:25 <PovAddict> people

14:26 * Tank_Master pokes PovAddict

14:26 * E-30 slaps Tank_Master around a bit with a large trout

14:26 <E-30> there

14:26 * Tank_Master is smelly now

14:26 <E-30> next time it a 2x4

14:28 <hawmps> "clue by four"

14:29 <E-30> lol

14:38 <Tank_Master> and if you paint it blue, then it is a blue's clue by four

14:40 <hawmps> the tool for "LARTing"

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15:06 <MTughan> yoyo_RKN: What app do you need tested?

15:07 <MTughan> Because I've got a temporary OS X install on an external drive. Am on it right now.

15:07 <yoyo_RKN> the evolution application, only if it starts

15:08 <MTughan> Where do I get it?

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15:08 <MTughan> 'lo mweltin

15:08 <mweltin> hey

15:08 <yoyo_RKN> I can send it via dcc

15:08 <MTughan> Okay, I can try it.

15:08 <yoyo_RKN> one moment

15:08 <mweltin> I'm spent, got sick last night

15:09 <mweltin> 100.4 fever so far and climbing

15:09 <mweltin> not going to hang out long, just wanted to see what everyone was up to.

15:09 <MTughan> My Mac's *back up*.

15:09 <mweltin> good, so that is the new OS

15:10 <MTughan> I'm running a temporary install on an external drive.

15:10 <MTughan> No, still not Leopard.

15:10 <PovAddict> &math convert 100.4 F C

15:10 <Romulus> PovAddict: 38

15:10 <mweltin> at least its up

15:10 <Tank_Master> hiya mw

15:10 <PovAddict> well, could be worse...

15:10 <MTughan> brb, sis's having trouble.

15:11 <mweltin> could be much worse I'm just going to sleep the day away

15:11 <mweltin> should be fine tomorrow.

15:11 <mweltin> Hi tank

15:11 <Tank_Master> sup?

15:11 <Tank_Master> go diving, wouldnt that cool you off? ;)

15:11 <mweltin> a littel under the weather, nothing serious I hope.

15:11 <hawmps> fc8 compiz-fusion -- no tray icon (very stupid)

15:11 <mweltin> I went yesterday and it did cool me off

15:11 <yoyo_RKN> : &weather berlin

15:12 <yoyo_RKN> &weather berlin

15:12 <mweltin> but I could feel it coming on  so I never made the night dive.

15:12 <Romulus> yoyo_RKN: Temperature: 36°F / 2°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 30.06in / 1018hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 8:50 PM CET; Partly Cloudy. High:41 F. / 5 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:28 F. / -2 C.; Partly Cloudy. High:41 F. / 5 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:33 F. / 1 C.; Chance of Rain. High:42 F. / 6 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:35 F. / 2 C.;

15:12 <mweltin> you have to be careful about your ears

15:12 <mweltin> when you are sick

15:12 <mweltin> If I'm at 60 feet and my ears clog up

15:12 <Tank_Master> ahh

15:13 <mweltin> you get a reverse block as you come up to the surface

15:13 <hawmps> lovely cold season

15:13 <mweltin> there isn't anything you can do about a reverse block.

15:13 <mweltin> you wouldn't think a tropical place has a cold season but it dose apparently.

15:14 <hawmps> cold and flu season....

15:14 <mweltin> you can get a flu shot here

15:14 <mweltin> who knew

15:14 <hawmps> ditto -

15:15 <hawmps> I hate shots period

15:16 <mweltin> I did think of  a small optimization for TSP however.

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15:16 <Tank_Master> lol

15:16 <Tank_Master> never stops, dose it?

15:16 <mweltin> the preifx of the path doesn't chagne, yet I calculate it every time.

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15:17 <Tank_Master> ahh

15:17 <mweltin> I can just calc the suffix and add that to the predetermined prefix.

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15:17 <mweltin> nope never stops

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15:17 <mweltin> I wake up thinking about it sometimes.

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15:21 <MTughan> Back.

15:22 <MTughan> Somehow, her iTunes library was corrupted.

15:22 <mweltin> hahaah

15:22 <mweltin> you are one nice guy

15:22 <MTughan> My dad and I are the computer folk. My mom and sis are quite inept.

15:22 <PovAddict> lol

15:23 <mweltin> I'm sure htey have other qualities

15:23 <MTughan> Okay... yoyo_RKN: You just need me to run it as a normal app?

15:23 <MTughan> Sure, but they're computer inept at least.

15:23 <yoyo_RKN> yes, just to check if it starts

15:23 <MTughan> Proof? She's getting to like Office '07.

15:23 <MTughan> And she needs more help...

15:23 <mweltin> I'm not a fan of itunes

15:25 <PriitM> I'm a fan of apple products

15:25 <mweltin> I did get to use the new ipods

15:25 <mweltin> I have to admit that was cool

15:28 <mweltin> thats about all I can take, I'm going to go back to bed.

15:28 <mweltin> later

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15:30 <MTughan> yoyo_RKN: Seems to run fine.

15:30 <yoyo_RKN> ok, thx

15:30 <PovAddict> The life span of internet videos:

15:30 <yoyo_RKN> is it for ppc or intel

15:31 <PovAddict> Original host website > stolen for ebaumsworld > stolen for youtube > embedded on blogs.

15:31 <MTughan> The output: http://www.pastebin.ca/800873

15:31 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Unnamed - post number 800873 (at www.pastebin.ca)

15:32 <yoyo_RKN> yes looks fine

15:32 <MTughan> Okay, it's not a normal application like most are. It's a file unto itself. "file" identifies it: "S005r6gSimulatorCarbon: header for PowerPC PEF executable"

15:33 <PovAddict> "normal application"?

15:33 <MTughan> Which is actually very similar to Office.

15:33 <PovAddict> apps are files

15:33 <MTughan> Most apps on OS X look like files, but they're actually folders.

15:33 <MTughan> With a structure very similar to Y! widgets.

15:40 <MTughan> yoyo_RKN: I got a benchmark result from it, about 0.27 MINDS.

15:41 <MTughan> Of course, I'm also building GIMP while it was running, so my comp can probably go faster.

15:41 <yoyo_RKN> I will deliver it as evo app when I have more time

15:42 <yoyo_RKN> go sleeping now, bye

15:42 <MTughan> Bye.

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15:48 <xcamel> re-hi

15:48 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

15:58 <xcamel> 'lo Mike

16:00 <freelarry> have noticed only one difference so far while using x.x.30 over x.x.28 tray icon works a little better

16:01 <freelarry> icon on one machine had stuck on sleeping mode even tho .28 was running apps

16:02 <freelarry> upgrade to .30 got it working right again

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16:27 <rubiks120> hi

16:36 <PriitM> good evening

16:37 <rubiks120> how are you doing PriitM

16:37 <PriitM> fine, thanks

16:37 <PriitM> you?

16:38 <rubiks120> Im doing pretty good, looking to procastinate on some studying

16:39 <MTughan> PovAddict: Do you remember the compiler flags that crunch3r said to use for TSP?

16:39 <PovAddict> no

16:40 <MTughan> I remember -ffast-math, but there was one about vectorizing...

16:40 <PovAddict> from the log, something *you* sent:

16:41 <PovAddict> <MTughan> gcc -O3 -ftree-vectorize -ffast-math -march=prescott -arch i386 lib/tspParser.cpp -c -o i386_build/tspParser.o

16:41 <MTughan> Oh, thanks...

16:42 <MTughan> Do you know if .PHONY target in Makefile can take multiple targets?

16:42 <PovAddict> yes it can, space-separated

16:42 <MTughan> Cool...

16:43 <PovAddict> .PHONY: clean distclean

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16:56 <freelarry> humm well found 2 stores that recycle parts for comps here one will test the item for a charge before selling it to you

16:57 <freelarry> so field trip next week to try and get a 5.25 floppy drive

16:57 <MTughan> lol

16:57 <MTughan> Oh, 'lo zombie67

16:57 <zombie67> hi

16:57 <rubiks120> freelarry, you actually found a drive?

16:58 <freelarry> then hopefully will be able to copy the stuff off these very old diskettes onto hd for people to play with

16:58 <freelarry> each store has 15 to 20 in  used bins

16:58 <MTughan> Anyone know if rm can take multiple files to delete?

16:58 <PovAddict> yes it can

16:58 <MTughan> Okay, that helps...

16:59 <PovAddict> in fact, when you do "rm *.o", it's the *shell* that expands the wildcard (not rm) and then passes one argument per filename

16:59 <MTughan> Nice.

16:59 <freelarry> hey PovAddict do you know if linux supports 5.25 floppy drives?

17:00 <PovAddict> so if you have a filename with spaces... bad things happen

17:00 <PovAddict> freelarry: why not... question would be if your bios can still handle it

17:00 <MTughan> That's why quotes are useful...

17:00 <freelarry> lol true that i will have to look at but if not the new machine i have a fw mb's in operation that i know the bios do support still

17:01 <freelarry> this machine in particular and it still has a drive bay open

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17:03 <MTughan> I know you can force rm to ignore files that don't exist with -f... Anything similar for mkdir, so it ignores it if the directory already exists?

17:03 <freelarry> about time to offer moral support for wife while she does the phone in appearance for the goofup with unemployment

17:03 <freelarry> &bye ttyl

17:03 <Romulus> later ace

17:04 <PovAddict> rm -f doesn't ignore those files...

17:04 <PovAddict> or...

17:05 <MTughan> How do I end an if shell statement? There's nothing in mkdir according to man.

17:05 <PovAddict> type it backwards

17:05 <PovAddict> fi ends if, esac ends case

17:05 <MTughan> if [-f <dir>]; echo "true"; fi

17:06 <MTughan> Doesn't work.

17:06 <PovAddict> because it's not a file :)

17:06 <PovAddict> -f checks if it exists and if it's a regular file

17:06 <MTughan> -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `fi'

17:06 <PovAddict> ah hmm

17:06 <PovAddict> oh 'then'

17:06 <PovAddict> if COMMANDS; then COMMANDS; fi

17:07 <MTughan> Yep, that worked. Now I get that -f doesn't exist.

17:07 <MTughan> -bash: [-f: command not found

17:07 <zombie67> bbl

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17:07 <PovAddict> space

17:07 <PovAddict> [ -f file ]

17:07 <MTughan> Okay, no output. Thanks!

17:07 <PovAddict> anyway, you want either -e (exists) or -d (exists and is directory)

17:07 <PovAddict> -f will not work for a directory

17:07 <MTughan> Ah, yes. -d is what I want.

17:08 <MTughan> Darn it... Now I want to negate that! Same as other languages? "!"

17:08 <PovAddict> yes, but you need an extra space

17:09 <PovAddict> [ ! -d file ]

17:09 <PovAddict> remember everything is split in spaces first

17:09 <MTughan> Yeah.

17:09 <PovAddict> $ help test

17:10 <MTughan> That's where the -d, -f, -e switches come from?

17:10 <PovAddict> '[' is just an alias for 'test'

17:12 <MTughan> Okay, seems that the build is going along as well as it can at this point. I haven't built and installed BOINC or expat yet. :P

17:15 <MTughan> Do you happen to remember the BOINC wiki article name where the SVN sources can be found? I found it last night on my Linux machine, but I can't seem to retrace my steps...

17:15 <PovAddict> SourceCode

17:16 <MTughan> You're my saviour this afternoon... :P

17:21 <MTughan> bbl

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17:22 <PovAddict> &math calc 36 ** 4

17:22 <Romulus> PovAddict: 1679616

17:22 <PovAddict> &math calc 36 ** 5

17:22 <Romulus> PovAddict: 60466176

17:22 <PovAddict> &math calc 36 ** 6

17:22 <Romulus> PovAddict: 2176782336

17:22 <PovAddict> &math calc 2 ** 31

17:22 <Romulus> PovAddict: 2147483648

17:31 <MTughan> Back earlier than I thought I'd be...

17:33 <MTughan> Ooh... I like it. http://badvista.fsf.org/

17:33 <Romulus> Title: BadVista.org: Stopping Microsoft Windows Vista adoption by promoting free software BadVista (at badvista.fsf.org)

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17:56 <wdsmia> *lo all

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18:09 <wdsmia> &weather 50265

18:10 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 32F / 0C | Humidity: 48% | Pressure: 30.11in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Low 15 to 20. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph shifting to the west 5 to 15 mph after midnight.; Thursday - Partly sunny. High in the upper 30s. Southwest wind 10 to 15 mph.; Thursday Night - Mostly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of (1 more message)

18:10 <wdsmia> &more

18:10 <Romulus> wdsmia: snow. Low in the lower 20s. Southwest wind 5 to 15 mph.;

18:10 <freelarry> well phone part over with - now just wait on the mail for determination

18:11 <freelarry> interesting thing is the one testifing for unemployment agency needed an interpretor

18:12 <freelarry> and he's the one suposedly interperting the rules?

18:15 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

18:15 <Tank_Master> &more

18:15 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.

18:15 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 41.5F / 5.3C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1021.9hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Rain this evening...possibly mixed with snow early. No accumulations expected. Then showers after midnight. Lows 30 to 35. Light wind...becoming southwest wind 5 to 15 mph.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy. Showers likely in the (1 more message)

18:15 <Tank_Master> &more

18:15 <Romulus> Tank_Master: morning...then a chance of showers in the afternoon. Highs around 45. South wind 5 to 15 mph.; Thursday Night - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers. Lows 30 to 35. South wind 5 to 10 mph becoming light after midnight.;

18:16 <Tank_Master> snow's already here

18:17 <freelarry> rain here snow a little north of here

18:17 <wdsmia> I bit quick on the trigger there TM with the &more

18:18 <Tank_Master> not my fault rommie is slow

18:18 <freelarry> &weather 98366

18:18 <Romulus> freelarry: Temperature: 37F / 3C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 30.25in / 1024hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h ; Tonight - Rain or wet snow. Local accumulations of an inch or so possible...mainly on hilltops away from bodies of water. Lows in the lower to mid 30s. Southeast wind 10 to 15 mph this evening becoming light.; Thursday - Showers likely. Highs in the upper (1 more message)

18:18 <freelarry> &more

18:18 <Romulus> freelarry: 30s to mid 40s. North wind to 10 mph.; Thursday Night - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s to mid 30s. Northeast wind to 10 mph.; Special Weather Statement for Kitsap County in effect until 10:15 PM PST on November 28, 2007;

18:19 <freelarry> humm icy conditions for when i get off tomorrow and commute home

18:19 <Tank_Master> sweet!

18:19 <Tank_Master> keeps things interesting

18:19 <wdsmia> bumper cars

18:19 <freelarry> very on 25+mile trip

18:19 <Tank_Master> hehe

18:21 * freelarry wonders if he can extend his vaction a few more days? could but weather will still be 'orrible

18:23 * wdsmia would like to take vacation fot the next 16 weeks... to bad I only have 3 days on the books :-(

18:24 <wdsmia> ok who moved the r key

18:25 <Tank_Master> sorry

18:25 * freelarry sneaks back behind his own kb

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18:25 <Tank_Master> BB!

18:25 <freelarry> still have 4 weeks of leave onbooks wdsmia

18:25 <BadBarbarian_> hey brb

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18:27 <xcamel> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap071128.html

18:27 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2007 November 28 - Comet Holmes from the Hubble Space Telescope (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)

18:27 <BadBarbarian_> hey tank it takes 10 hrs for the cancer one from  wcg

18:28 <BadBarbarian_> on my laptop

18:28 <freelarry> humm xcamel isn't that your runaway fission reactor in the pic?

18:28 <Tank_Master> yeah, some of those are long one

18:29 <Tank_Master> not as bad as QMC though ;)

18:29 <BadBarbarian_> so 10 hrs is not to bad for my single core 2 gig 64bit

18:29 <Tank_Master> no

18:29 <BadBarbarian_> cool

18:30 * freelarry notes no problems appearing with 64 bit 5.x.30 so far

18:30 <freelarry> on windows anyway

18:30 <freelarry> installed over top of 32bit version boinc

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18:31 <BadBarbarian_> wah

18:31 <Tank_Master> lol

18:32 <BadBarbarian_> cat wait thill my quad gets back

18:32 <BadBarbarian_> till

18:32 <Tank_Master> hehe

18:32 <BadBarbarian_> tired spent all day at the VA for tests

18:32 <Tank_Master> fun times ;)

18:33 <Tank_Master> ill bbl

18:33 <Tank_Master> huh, just noticed its to be 31 and raining tonight...

18:34 <BadBarbarian_> well there redoing the history of all soldiers from the first iraq war for exposer to cemical weapons

18:35 <BadBarbarian_> my fingers are not well tonight lol

18:52 <CoderForLife> hello folks

18:52 <MTughan> 'lo CFL

18:52 <CoderForLife> hey MTughan

18:53 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

18:53 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 46.6F / 8.1C | Humidity: 58% | Pressure: 30.08in / 1018.5hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy this evening...then mostly cloudy with isolated rain showers after midnight. Lows in the mid 30s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Gusts up to 30 mph late. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Thursday - Mostly sunny. Cooler with highs (1 more message)

18:53 <CoderForLife> &more

18:53 <Romulus> CoderForLife: in the lower 40s. West winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph.; Thursday Night - Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 20s. West winds around 5 mph...becoming south after midnight.;

18:56 <BadBarbarian_> Lo CFL

18:56 <PovAddict> need a quick check

18:56 <BadBarbarian_> &weather 86023

18:56 <Romulus> BadBarbarian_: Temperature: 40F / 4C | Humidity: 18% | Pressure: 30.32in / 1026hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 27 on the North Rim to around 33 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Thursday - Partly cloudy. Highs around 45 on the North Rim to around 67 along the Colorado River. Light winds becoming southwest around 15 mph in (1 more message)

18:56 <BadBarbarian_> &more

18:56 <Romulus> BadBarbarian_: the afternoon.; Thursday Night - Mostly cloudy. Lows around 30 on the North Rim to around 50 along the Colorado River. Light winds.;

18:56 <PovAddict> any linux or mac user currently running boinc, check what nice level the science apps are running

18:57 <MTughan> No Macs available unless zombie67 was here.

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18:59 <Romulus> WB, Boss

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19:00 <MTughan> 'lo e

19:01 <efc> hey

19:04 <MTughan> Yay! I have TSP Intel building!

19:13 <MTughan> Okay, both TSP apps build fine.

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19:19 <CoderForLife> back

19:19 <CoderForLife> hey Bad Barbarian

19:19 <CoderForLife> hey there Mr. PovAddict

19:19 <CoderForLife> hey efc

19:19 <PovAddict> _o/

19:20 <zombie67> hi

19:20 <CoderForLife> hey zombie67

19:20 <MTughan> PovAddict: You needed Mac/Linux info?

19:20 <PovAddict> got it already

19:24 <zombie67> on one of my PCs, replaced the PD 945 with a Q6600.  The took that PD 945, and used it to replace a PD 820 on another box.  Life is good.

19:25 <efc> saw a nice case on anand, its got a 7" LCD and a volume control built in.. I'm sure you could abuse that for boinc somehow

19:25 <MTughan> zombie67: Do you have a 64-bit PPC Mac?

19:25 <zombie67> all G5 are 64 bit.  I have two G5 boxes (one is a quad).  However, they run tiger 10.4, which is only partially 64 bit.

19:26 <MTughan> I'm trying to compile expat as PPC 64-bit for TSP. I was wondering if you could help make sure it works.

19:27 <zombie67> depends.  what do you need me to do?

19:27 <MTughan> I'm not totally sure actually. PovAddict had the idea.

19:27 <PovAddict> you should compile tsp with that library

19:27 <PovAddict> then give him tsp to test

19:28 <MTughan> I can't compile BOINC as 64-bit though.

19:28 <PovAddict> :o?

19:28 <PovAddict> why not? can't boinc's configure script take --host?

19:28 <MTughan> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Headers/MachineExceptions.h:286: error: typedef 'ExceptionHandlerProcPtr' is initialized (use __typeof__ instead)

19:29 <PovAddict> hrm

19:30 <MTughan> expat will build fine under 64-bit though.

19:30 <PovAddict> http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/pipermail/boinc_dev/2007-November/009280.html

19:30 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1DHe> (at lists.ssl.berkeley.edu)

19:30 <MTughan> So I have 4 builds of expat now.

19:30 <PovAddict> go on clicking "Next message" until the end of the thread

19:32 <MTughan> Looks like they're talking about x86_64.

19:33 <zombie67> bbl

19:33 <MTughan> Yeah, doesn't help with PPC64. I can try x86_64 though.

19:34 <PovAddict> how many ppc64 macs are there anyway?

19:34 <MTughan> I know zombie67 has at least two.

19:34 <MTughan> All the G5s were PPC64.

19:34 <PovAddict> oh, he said "all G5 are 64 bit"

19:35 <MTughan> So that's all later Power Macs and iMacs, before the Intel switch.

19:35 <PovAddict> you're on an Intel32 now?

19:35 <MTughan> Core Duo, yep.

19:35 <MTughan> Same error with x86_64.

19:36 <MTughan> That error I pasted too, that's one of 7.

19:36 <PovAddict> pastebin plz

19:36 <MTughan> http://www.pastebin.ca/801129

19:36 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Someone - post number 801129 (at www.pastebin.ca)

19:37 <PovAddict> is that from the x86_64 or ppc64?

19:37 <PovAddict> nvm

19:37 <MTughan> x64_64, although I get the same error with PPC64.

19:38 <MTughan> s/x64_64/x86_64/

19:38 <PovAddict> do you have the latest boinc code from svn?

19:39 <MTughan> Downloaded today.

19:39 <PovAddict> did you "make distclean" before configure-ing?

19:39 <MTughan> Before configuring? No.

19:39 <PovAddict> ok no problem if it was a fresh copy...

19:39 <MTughan> I did make clean before make.

19:41 <CoderForLife> I'm going to go off and do some w@#% homew@#%

19:41 <MTughan> Bye.

19:41 <CoderForLife> cya folks soon

19:42 <PovAddict> try make distclean and start from the beginning (./_autosetup; ./configure --disable-server --disable-client --host=whatever)

19:42 <efc> later cfl

19:42 <PovAddict> cya CoderForLife

19:42 <efc> Is there a way to limit the number of simultaneous downloads boinc tries?

19:42 <rubiks120> hi

19:43 <PovAddict> yes there is efc

19:43 <PovAddict> I'll tell you aaafter dinner -->

19:44 <efc> The agony!

19:44 <MTughan> lol

19:44 <MTughan> If I had to guess, I'd say in Options->Preferences.

19:45 <efc> At the website or in the client?

19:46 <MTughan> Client.

19:51 <MTughan> PovAddict: For when you come back, same error.

19:52 <efc> nothing there, i give up

19:52 <MTughan> All right, I wasn't sure.

19:52 <MTughan> I haven't reinstalled BOINC on my machine yet.

19:56 <zombie67> "So that's all later Power Macs and iMacs, before the Intel switch."  except for the laptops.  they never went past G4.  G5s were just too hot.

19:57 <zombie67> pov:  milkyway is having problems

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20:01 <MTughan_> Ah, that explains why my comp froze up... Kernel panic.

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20:01 <MTughan> Did I miss anything after I said that I hadn't reinstalled BOINC yet?

20:02 <rubiks120> doesnt look like it MTughan, unless the conversation on mac processors affects you

20:02 <MTughan> Probably doesn't affect me, but might interest me.

20:03 <rubiks120> actually just says G5s were too hot for laptops

20:03 <MTughan> Which is why they stayed with G4s and part of the reason they switched to Intel.

20:04 <rubiks120> well if you know that much then you didnt miss a thing

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20:07 <zombie67> that is what I said

20:08 <zombie67> laptops never went past G4, because the G5s were too hot.

20:08 <rubiks120> I was recapping zombie67 =P

20:09 <zombie67> ah!

20:09 <rubiks120> personally, I dont have the know how in Macs to have been able to come up with that myself

20:12 <MTughan> Actually... zombie67, would you happen to have Xcode installed on one of your 64-bit Intel Macs?

20:14 <PovAddict> efc: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/ClientMessages

20:14 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/SlO> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

20:15 <MTughan> PovAddict: Same error.

20:15 <PovAddict> max_file_xfers and max_file_xfers_per_project

20:15 <zombie67> how do I check?

20:15 <PovAddict> MTughan: same error after trying what?

20:15 <MTughan> make distclean.

20:15 <PovAddict> ah yeah that

20:15 <MTughan> zombie67: You would've had to install it.

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20:15 <PovAddict> well I posted on boinc_dev before going

20:15 <zombie67> I may have.  how do I check?

20:15 <MTughan> Check if /Developer exists.

20:16 <efc> Thanks Pov

20:16 <BadBarbarian> Evening every one

20:16 <MTughan> 'lo BB

20:17 <zombie67> yes, I have /Developer

20:17 <BadBarbarian> hows it going MT

20:17 <MTughan> Sweet... Can I get you to build BOINC for me? Both 64-bit Intel and PPC.

20:17 <PovAddict> lol I see problems

20:17 <zombie67> sure, if you walk me through it.

20:17 <MTughan> PovAddict: Okay, thanks for the post.

20:18 <PovAddict> that will be fun...

20:18 <zombie67> looking for copy/paset instructions....

20:18 <PovAddict> I think you'll get into recursion

20:18 <MTughan> Mind if we do this over private message? Just to not clutter the channel.

20:18 <zombie67> ok

20:18 <PovAddict> you need to compile boinc

20:18 <PovAddict> to do that, you first need to download it

20:18 <MTughan> Yep.

20:18 <PovAddict> to do that you need svn

20:19 <PovAddict> is svn included by default on macs?

20:19 <MTughan> You're getting ahead of me.

20:19 <PovAddict> or do you need some macports or fink or whatever thing?

20:19 <MTughan> Or I could tar and bunzip the src?

20:19 <PovAddict> yeah you could

20:20 <MTughan> PovAddict: Will doing autosetup hurt anything?

20:21 <PovAddict> no, it will just complain if autoconf/automake are missing

20:21 <xcamel> &weather 12074

20:21 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 26.1F / -3.3C | Humidity: 78% | Pressure: 30.30in / 1026.0hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows around 30. Southeast winds 10 to 15 mph.; Thursday - A chance of snow showers in the morning. Mostly cloudy with a chance of rain showers. Brisk with highs in the mid 40s. Southwest winds 15 to 25 mph. Chance of (1 more message)

20:21 <MTughan> No, if I do autosetup for zombie.

20:21 <xcamel> hmmm...

20:21 <MTughan> Because the default version of automake is too old.

20:21 <PovAddict> oh well... no I don't think it would cause problems

20:21 <PovAddict> *he* should run configure though

20:21 <MTughan> Yes, I agree.

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20:55 * xcamel yawns

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21:07 <zombie67> 8 min to go

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21:07 <MTughan_> My Mac doesn't like me today...

21:07 <zombie67> what was the url again?

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21:08 <MTughan> One sec...

21:09 <MTughan> http://www.savefile.com/files/1228892

21:09 <MTughan> &ping

21:09 <Romulus> pong

21:09 <Romulus> Title: Free file hosting by Savefile.com (at www.savefile.com)

21:11 <MTughan> Damn my Internet...

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21:16 <Tank_Master> haha

21:37 <MTughan> zombie67: You there?

21:40 <zombie67> I think I lost MT

21:40 <MTughan> I'm here.

21:40 <Tank_Master> no, not yet

21:40 <MTughan> I'm seeing your messages, but I don't think you see mine.

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21:41 <Tank_Master> zombie?

21:41 <Tank_Master> ahh

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21:41 <Tank_Master> n/m

21:41 <PovAddict> MTughan: I was seeing your messages

21:41 <MTughan> Damn, it does that whenever I try to send any files...

21:41 <Tank_Master> I could see your messahed MT

21:41 <MTughan> I was talking about zombie67.

21:42 <Tank_Master> but z aint respoinding

21:42 <MTughan> Yeah, he can't see any of our messages.

21:42 <MTughan> Not sure how to tell him that...

21:43 <MTughan> Oh, I should mention that he seemed to go out as he sent me a file.

21:44 <Tank_Master> he's not on the other channle Im on either, so I can relay

21:44 <zombie67> can anyone see me?

21:44 <MTughan> Relay what?

21:44 <PovAddict> zombie67: yes we can

21:44 <MTughan> Don't think that'll do much good though.

21:44 <Tank_Master> z!

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21:46 <MTughan1> There we go.

21:46 <MTughan1> I was trying to send him a short message by DCC over XChat Aqua.

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21:47 <MTughan1> I'll keep that on for now...

21:47 <Tank_Master> wb

21:47 <MTughan1> Can you see us now?

21:47 <zombie67> yes

21:47 <zombie67> what happ?

21:47 <MTughan1> Good. Yeah, you blanked out after you sent me the file.

21:47 <Tank_Master> can you see me now?

21:47 <MTughan1> lol TM.

21:47 <Tank_Master> :)

21:47 <Tank_Master> good

21:47 <zombie67> did you get the file?

21:48 <MTughan1> No, it didn't transfer.

21:48 <wdsmia> Tank_Master we can see you and man are you ugly :P

21:48 <MTughan1> ...

21:48 <zombie67> http://homepage.mac.com/WebObjects/FileSharing.woa/wa/default?user=zombie67&templatefn=FileSharing46.html&xmlfn=TKDocument.46.xml&sitefn=RootSite.xml&aff=consumer&cty=US&lang=en

21:48 <Romulus> Title: Downloads (at homepage.mac.com)

21:48 <MTughan1> Ah, thanks.

21:48 <zombie67> you said there were two things?

21:48 <MTughan1> Yep, now for x86_64... :P

21:49 <zombie67> this on my intel box?

21:49 <zombie67> or my PPC?

21:49 <MTughan1> Do it on the Intel, I don't know if the PPC can do Intel builds.

21:49 * Tank_Master thwaps wdsmia and calls wdsmia's mama ungly

21:49 <zombie67> let me see if I have xcode

21:49 <zombie67> yep

21:49 <MTughan1> Good.

21:49 <wdsmia> lol

21:50 <zombie67> yo momma so fat....

21:50 <freelarry> she make budda seems underfed

21:50 <freelarry> ?

21:51 <zombie67> MT?

21:51 <MTughan1> Yeah?

21:51 <MTughan1> I sent you a private message.

21:51 <MTughan1> PovAddict: Response to boinc-dev...

21:51 <zombie67> nope

21:52 <PovAddict> MTughan1: yeah I saw it - did you?

21:52 <MTughan1> All right, well... Do you have the instructions from before?

21:52 <MTughan1> Reading it now.

21:52 <zombie67> you must have a passwd to do that

21:52 <zombie67> and you are MTughan1 right now

21:52 <MTughan1> I know.

21:52 <MTughan1> MTughan is XChat Aqua.

21:52 <PovAddict> you're probably not identified with nickserv under MTughan1...

21:52 <MTughan1> Oh, I know... Yeah.

21:53 *** MTughan is now known as MTughan_

21:53 *** MTughan1 is now known as MTughan

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21:55 <PovAddict> MTughan: are you subscribed to the boinc_dev list?

21:56 <MTughan> Not right now.

21:56 <PovAddict> ...how did you notice the message? looking on the archive on the web?

21:56 <MTughan> Yeah.

21:56 <PovAddict> k

21:59 <MTughan> Hey, one question... Not supporting PPC64 because Apple hasn't released any PPC Macs. Why support PPC32 then?

21:59 <PovAddict> because ppc32 has been supported forever

21:59 <MTughan> As for the 10.5 SDK, I may be able to get it...

22:00 <MTughan> I can get the Xcode 3 installer. While it'll only run on Leopard, I may be able to get the SDK.

22:00 <PovAddict> boincstats shoutbox gets interesting...

22:01 <zombie67> pov:  what you said there makes no sense

22:01 <PovAddict> <Vinb2k7> Is anyone having problems uploading wu's in Rosetta@home?

22:01 <PovAddict> <Seejay> @Vinb2k7: At the moment, no.  I'm just having probs. finishing the bloody WUs.

22:01 <PovAddict> <StuartWhelan> Anyone else running just motherboards in cardbord boxes? :)

22:01 <PovAddict> <StuartWhelan> I pulled three old m/b's out of my junk pile, set them up as diskless clients running in a cardbord box and set them cracking last night

22:01 <PovAddict> seems interesting, to save on the case

22:02 <MTughan> Could be a fire hazard though.

22:02 <zombie67> "SIMAP already started the November batch, and there's still 50k workunits from October's!

22:02 <zombie67> "

22:02 <PovAddict> there may be heat problems if he has no fans tho, it's like running with sides off

22:02 <zombie67> ?

22:02 <PovAddict> zombie67: see batchmonitor

22:02 <zombie67> They started November alm0st a month ago!

22:02 <MTughan> It's because my Mac's not working on it! :P

22:02 <PovAddict> "Similarities of new sequences from october 2007"

22:03 <PovAddict> one batch from that is at 25.9%

22:03 <PovAddict> "Similarities of new sequences from november 2007" just started

22:03 <zombie67> probably re-runs.  Most october is non-boinc

22:04 <PovAddict> maybe during month (n), starting at the beginning of the month, they calculate similarities of the proteins discovered during month (n-1)

22:04 <PovAddict> so that's why the new batch is "new sequences from november"

22:04 <zombie67> POV:  http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=43657&nowrap=true#681973

22:04 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1DJl> (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)

22:04 <freelarry> yes PovAddict i tried earlier - it gave servr shared memory error message

22:04 <freelarry> for rosetta that is

22:05 <PovAddict> zombie67: is that yours?!

22:05 <zombie67> hah!

22:05 <zombie67> nope

22:05 <zombie67> neat eh?

22:05 <zombie67> some metal rods, stand-offs....

22:05 <zombie67> who needs a box?

22:05 <Tank_Master> SWEET!

22:06 <Tank_Master> I just lay mine out on the desk

22:06 <zombie67> not for OC though...

22:06 <MTughan> Looks like an open style rack...

22:06 <MTughan> Heh. The network switches at the top.

22:06 <zombie67> the thing that always stops me from doiing something like that is the PSU

22:07 <Tank_Master> ?

22:07 <zombie67> I want one big PSU, with multiple cables out to each mobo

22:07 <MTughan> Power's not cheap...

22:07 <Tank_Master> just get a box fan and your set of OC

22:07 <MTughan> Now we start the download PovAddict has feared... Xcode 3. 1.1GB. :P

22:07 <zombie67> bah!

22:07 <PovAddict> gtfo

22:08 <zombie67> 1.1gb comes down fast via cable

22:08 <Tank_Master> of fiber

22:08 <Tank_Master> or*

22:08 <zombie67> or

22:08 <zombie67> ;)

22:08 <MTughan> I have ADSL.

22:08 <Tank_Master> HAHA

22:08 <zombie67> how fast?

22:08 <zombie67> asdl

22:08 <MTughan> I can usually reach about 500kb/s.

22:08 <Tank_Master> decent

22:08 <zombie67> adsl

22:08 <PovAddict> I have 600kbps cable

22:08 <MTughan> lol, no you don't.

22:08 <zombie67> 6mb d/l peak

22:09 <PovAddict> &google calc 500KB/s / 600kbps

22:09 <Romulus> PovAddict: (500 (KB / s)) / (600 kbps) = 6.66666667

22:09 <PovAddict> MTughan is 6.6 times faster than me

22:09 <MTughan> Although I'm getting 270KB/s right now.

22:09 <zombie67> how do I tell which version of xcode I have?

22:09 <MTughan> You have a Tiger machine?

22:09 <zombie67> da

22:09 <MTughan> It's 2.4

22:10 <PovAddict> 3.0 runs only on Leopard

22:10 <MTughan> Latest for Tiger is 2.5.

22:10 <zombie67> ah, so xcode version it tied to OS

22:10 <MTughan> No, 2.5 can run on Leopard I believe.

22:10 <PovAddict> it's just it doesn't run on leopard...

22:10 <PovAddict> analogy: recent version of visual studio running only on Vista

22:10 <Tank_Master> gaa,

22:10 <MTughan> Yes, 2.5 can run on both.

22:11 * Tank_Master is confused now

22:11 <zombie67> MT, let me know if you need anything else.  payback for tsp mac apps!

22:11 <MTughan> Xcode 2.4 is Tiger, 2.5 is Tiger/Leopard, 3.0 is Leopard. That help Tank_Master?

22:11 <zombie67> how do I tell my version?

22:11 <MTughan> You have 2.4.

22:11 <Tank_Master> yep

22:11 <zombie67> not answering

22:11 <zombie67> how do I tell?

22:11 <Tank_Master> help about?

22:11 <Tank_Master> oh wate...

22:11 <MTughan> All right. Boot Xcode, then go "Xcode->About"

22:12 <MTughan> As with all other OS X applications.

22:12 <zombie67> csh: Boot: Command not found.

22:12 <PovAddict> >.>

22:12 <MTughan> "open /Developer/Applications/Xcode.app"

22:13 <zombie67> 2.4.1

22:13 <MTughan> What did I say?

22:13 <zombie67> should I upgrade to 2.5?

22:13 <MTughan> You'll need a Developer account to do so.

22:13 <zombie67> I have ine

22:13 <Tank_Master> or upgrade to leperd and go with 3.0...

22:13 <zombie67> one

22:13 <MTughan> http://developer.apple.com/

22:14 <Romulus> Title: Apple Developer Connection (at developer.apple.com)

22:14 <zombie67> how do you think I got this version?

22:14 <MTughan> I thought from your OS X DVD.

22:14 <zombie67> nope

22:14 <zombie67> gotta be ADC member

22:15 <MTughan> To run Xcode? No, you just need to own OS X.

22:15 <MTughan> It comes with Xcode as an additional package.

22:15 <zombie67> no....

22:15 <MTughan> Tiger did.

22:15 <MTughan> Okay yeah, I can't compile those TSP apps as is.

22:16 <zombie67> 902mb

22:16 <MTughan> Yep.

22:17 <zombie67> then what was it?  I didn't create an account for nothgin.

22:17 <MTughan> What was what?

22:17 <zombie67> there was *some*thing I neede the account for

22:18 <MTughan> It could've been for Xcode.

22:18 <zombie67> gah!

22:18 <zombie67> circles

22:18 <PovAddict> lol

22:18 <zombie67> that is what I said

22:18 <MTughan> Ow... "/Users/mtughan/boinc/expat-ppc_64/include/expat.h:17:20: error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory"

22:18 <PovAddict> MTughan: is that when building tsp?

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22:19 <MTughan> I never said it wasn't for Xcode, I just said you could've gotten it from your Tiger DVD>

22:19 <MTughan> Yes, it is.

22:19 <PovAddict> did you manage boincapi already?

22:19 <MTughan> That's just 1 of quite a number of errors.

22:19 <PovAddict> 0.o

22:19 <zombie67> did xcode come with panther?

22:19 <MTughan> I also added -isysroot.

22:19 <MTughan> zombie67: Dunno, Tiger is my first OS X version.

22:19 <zombie67> if not, maybe that is when I created the account.

22:20 <zombie67> MT:  is there a problem with what I did?

22:20 <MTughan> No, it's GCC goofing up.

22:20 <MTughan> src/lib/Containers.cpp:4:18: error: vector: No such file or directory

22:20 <MTughan> src/lib/Containers.cpp:5:18: error: string: No such file or directory

22:20 <MTughan> src/lib/Containers.cpp:6:20: error: iostream: No such file or directory

22:21 <zombie67> ack!  just realized I never restarted boinc on my quad PPC!

22:22 <zombie67> my processors were getting cold!

22:22 <MTughan> lol

22:22 <Tank_Master> LOL

22:23 <MTughan> Nice... My whole BOINC building environment, with 4 different builds of BOINC and expat each, adds up to 21MB.

22:23 <zombie67> TM:  did you confirm which 2.8 PD you have?

22:25 <Tank_Master> not 100%

22:25 <MTughan> The only way I see PPC64 and x86_64 being built at this point is by getting zombie67 to do it. Unless I can get the SDK going and it works.

22:25 <Tank_Master> but I know 100% that its a 2.8

22:25 <Tank_Master> Pd

22:25 <PovAddict> MTughan: don't bother about PPC64 unless it's easy

22:25 <zombie67> TM:  zovos 2 is sending out work

22:25 <zombie67> zivis II

22:25 <Tank_Master> bout 80%sure its a 900 series

22:25 <PovAddict> :O

22:25 <PovAddict> WHUR

22:25 <PovAddict> LINK

22:25 <Tank_Master> lol

22:26 <PovAddict> AIS still has no work

22:26 <MTughan> PovAddict: Yeah, it's easy. Build is all ready, just need the right libraries and headers.

22:26 <zombie67> it is still uppercase, at least for the win app

22:26 <PovAddict> MTughan: get x86_64 first

22:26 <PovAddict> zombie67: ah then nevermind

22:26 <zombie67> http://registro.ibercivis.es/

22:26 <Romulus> Title: Test Project (at registro.ibercivis.es)

22:26 <MTughan> Same situation.

22:26 <PovAddict> call me when they have useful work to do

22:26 <zombie67> linux appears to be something different

22:27 <PovAddict> WHAT THE

22:27 <PovAddict> something went wrong there

22:27 <PovAddict> look at server_status

22:27 <MTughan> zombie67: What to build the x86_64 app, or wait on it?

22:27 <PovAddict> s/What/Want/?

22:27 <MTughan> Want*

22:27 <MTughan> Yeah.

22:27 <zombie67> I thought I did?

22:27 <zombie67> POV:  what about the SS?

22:27 <MTughan> Naw, you build the BOINC libraries for me.

22:27 <PovAddict> zombie67: server version

22:28 <MTughan> This would be the actual TSP app.

22:28 <zombie67> 14?

22:28 <PovAddict> yeah wtf

22:28 <MTughan> brb

22:28 <zombie67> MT:  can we do it later?

22:28 <MTughan> Sure.

22:28 <PovAddict> should be over 12k

22:28 <zombie67> maybe it is getting cut off?

22:28 <PovAddict> probably

22:29 <zombie67> but see the version of the linux app?

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22:32 <harrisonHG> can you help me?

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22:33 <PovAddict> wtf

22:33 <PovAddict> o.0

22:33 <Tank_Master> not if you dont stay

22:33 <Tank_Master> noob

22:34 <zombie67> BTW, I put this channel in my forum sigs

22:35 <Tank_Master> say that

22:35 <Tank_Master> saw*

22:37 <PovAddict> I should make an app to change forum settings on all projects; useful for sigs

22:38 <PovAddict> but I'm not sure if the interface was consistent between server versions

22:38 <PovAddict> and it's hard to change a single pref item without screwing up the rest

22:39 <Tank_Master> true

22:39 <Tank_Master> would be nice though

22:39 <PovAddict> particularly hard is checkboxes

22:39 <zombie67> no kidding!

22:39 <PovAddict> I *must* read the current value and send it back

22:39 <zombie67> I have about 80 projects bookmarked

22:39 <zombie67> it took *for ever* to update them all

22:39 <PovAddict> missing value means uncheck, not "leave untouched"

22:39 <zombie67> I like the way global prefs are passed from project to project....

22:40 <PovAddict> every month or so I check for duplicated hosts

22:40 <PovAddict> so it means opening dozens of tabs for diff projects with host list

22:40 <zombie67> that is another "grab some beer, turn on the tube" activities

22:41 <zombie67> brb

22:41 <PovAddict> that is another "this should be f*cking automated" activity

22:41 * PovAddict checks the log of his trac-wiki-spam-deleter script

22:42 <PovAddict> wow there hasn't been any spam in 10 days

22:42 * Tank_Master is amased

22:42 <PovAddict> Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:29:36 -0200

22:43 <zombie67> there was probably one guy, and he figured out that BOINC was on to him

22:43 <zombie67> time to target another....

22:43 <Tank_Master> :)

22:44 <zombie67> another "this should be f*cking automated" activity

22:44 <zombie67> yep!

22:48 * Tank_Master 's cat is snoring again

22:48 <MTughan> lol

22:49 <zombie67> dog is farting again

22:50 <MTughan> Holy crap... Download of Xcode 3 was terminated at 600MB...

22:50 <PovAddict> wget -c

22:50 <MTughan> What does that do?

22:50 <Tank_Master> doh!

22:50 <PovAddict> continue

22:50 <MTughan> Oops... I already deleted it.

22:50 <zombie67> 2.5 is still going at 330 of 903

22:51 <PovAddict> you deleted it?

22:51 <PovAddict> http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar/mtughan.png

22:51 <MTughan> Yes... I was used to the old way. It was an extra 600MB on my disk.

22:51 <PovAddict> :P

22:52 <MTughan> Nice... The best path so far on TSP: http://www.myisland.as/tsp/index.php

22:52 <Romulus> Title: TSP Best Path To Date (at www.myisland.as)

22:52 <MTughan> That looks hugely inefficient.

22:53 <zombie67> still WAY too much east/west

22:53 <PovAddict> inverted logic?

22:53 <PovAddict> looking for longest path? :)

22:53 <zombie67> ding!

22:54 <Tank_Master> looks like it!

22:54 <MTughan> brb, need food.

22:54 <Tank_Master> food is for the weak

22:55 <zombie67> weak *are* food

22:55 <Tank_Master> lol

22:55 <Tank_Master> that to

22:59 <MTughan> Oh, okay. It's not food. It's consumables. :P

22:59 <PovAddict> implements Eatable

22:59 <MTughan> Edible*

22:59 <PovAddict> English--;

22:59 <MTughan> lol

23:00 <MTughan> What's your native tongue?

23:00 <Tank_Master> klutzoeese

23:01 <MTughan> lol

23:02 <Tank_Master> but thats ok, most of the time my keyboard and I dont speek the same language

23:02 <MTughan> Oh, there we go... Now I'm downloading at 458KB/s.

23:02 <PovAddict> LOL

23:02 <MTughan> "speek"? lol

23:07 <zombie67> "Spelling on Usenet is like dancing at the Republican National Convention; badly executed, occasionally funny to watch, but for the most part completely ignored." -- Christian Wagner

23:08 <Tank_Master> ill bbl

23:08 <Tank_Master> gonna go watch TV

23:08 <PovAddict> finding porn on the Internet is like finding hay on a haystack (does the same apply to trolls on Usenet?)

23:08 <zombie67> TM:  they're pulling me back in:  http://forums.macnn.com/72/team-macnn/355361/enigma-home-now-has-osx-ppc/

23:08 <Romulus> Title: Enigma@home now has OSX/PPC app - MacNN Forums (at forums.macnn.com)

23:09 <Tank_Master> who in where?

23:10 <zombie67> I was thinking about joining a new team

23:10 <Tank_Master> I thought you were going to do that when you got to 10m

23:10 <zombie67> now they give me access to the front page

23:10 <zombie67> yeah

23:10 <zombie67> hmmmmm

23:10 <PovAddict> so what have you posted? :)

23:10 <zombie67> just about everything

23:11 <Tank_Master> sad

23:11 <zombie67> http://forums.macnn.com/team-macnn/

23:11 <Romulus> Title: Team MacNN - MacNN Forums (at forums.macnn.com)

23:11 <zombie67> look at the thread starter column

23:11 <PovAddict> I mean on the frontpage

23:11 <zombie67> ha!

23:11 <PovAddict> now that they gave you privileges

23:12 <zombie67> yeah, esp about how predictor is starting back up

23:12 <zombie67> http://forums.macnn.com/72/team-macnn/355162/im-2-a/

23:12 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1DKs> (at forums.macnn.com)

23:12 <PovAddict> saw that

23:12 <zombie67> #1 has my same rac

23:13 <zombie67> can't catch him with WCG

23:13 <zombie67> will require RS & QMC

23:13 <Tank_Master> congrats z

23:13 <Tank_Master> anywho, ill bbl

23:13 <zombie67> c ya

23:14 <zombie67> ah, just now got the privileges.

23:15 <zombie67> I will post news items that relate to BOINC/Mac users

23:17 <zombie67> some people are just born lucky:  http://boloround2.wordpress.com/2007/11/29/petra-nemcova/

23:17 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1DL0> (at boloround2.wordpress.com)

23:19 <rubiks120> how do you figure that shes born lucky?

23:25 <zombie67> born pretty, survived the tsunami

23:25 <rubiks120> oo I didnt get the tsunami thing from that page, but yea she is pretty

23:27 <wraund> im running rosetta, on hte rosetta homepage it claims this japenese guy has over 300,000 proceses going, how is he doin that?

23:27 <zombie67> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petra_N?mcov?

23:27 <Romulus> Title: Petra N - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)

23:28 <MTughan> You're probably reading some variation of FLOPS.

23:28 <zombie67> see "The 2004 tsunami"

23:29 <rubiks120> wow

23:29 <zombie67> <wraund>:  where on the home page?

23:30 <rubiks120> ok, Ill agree she is very lucky

23:30 <zombie67> Ah!

23:30 <zombie67> wraund:  User of the day is on the left

23:30 <zombie67> the stats on the right are for the WHOLE project

23:31 <wraund> zombie67: still confuses me :(

23:32 <wraund> i run  one process at a time

23:32 <zombie67> see the "server status" box over the number on the right?

23:32 <MTughan> Yep. Everyone in the project is running 300,000 in all.

23:32 <MTughan> I think that's what he's saying...

23:33 <wraund> MTughan: ah gd gd :P

23:33 <wraund> also, is the server down?

23:33 <wraund> i try to sync and it sets the communication defferation to 1 hour

23:33 <zombie67> many people are having problems, so I think so.

23:33 <wraund> sigh

23:33 <wraund> ah well

23:33 <zombie67> http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/rah_status.php

23:33 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1DL$> (at boinc.bakerlab.org)

23:33 <wraund> soon have it up i hope :)

23:34 <zombie67> http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_forum.php?id=2

23:34 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1DL+> (at boinc.bakerlab.org)

23:34 <zombie67> look at the top 5 (unlocked) threads

23:34 <wraund> zombie67: any idea when it will be back up?

23:34 <zombie67> heh.  nope.  I'm just an ignorant user

23:35 <zombie67> ;)

23:35 <wraund> lol :P

23:35 <zombie67> ding!  xcode 2.5 in da house

23:35 <wraund> what the heck is a teraflop..

23:36 <zombie67> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teraflop

23:36 <Romulus> Title: FLOPS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)

23:36 <zombie67> any news on BURP?  still have several tasks to return

23:37 <freelarry> think he's trying to build new server

23:37 <wraund> i have one task, but i wanted to upload it right as the server went off, so ive waited all this time :P

23:37 <freelarry> kicked off a donation page for lots of items it appears

23:37 <freelarry> yup got one on this machine too

23:39 <zombie67> i made a donation

23:41 <zombie67> brb

23:43 <wraund> zombie67: how much? :P

23:44 <zombie67> somewhere between $1 and $1000

23:45 <zombie67> or rather, cut that in half and replace the euro symbol

23:46 <wraund> lol

23:46 <zombie67> ?

23:46 <zombie67> there it is!

23:47 <wraund> what is where?

23:47 <zombie67> ? <- the Euro symbol

23:48 * freelarry checks shouldsers - nope head still on even if backwards

23:48 <MTughan> I get a question mark.

23:48 <zombie67> really?  looks right on my end

23:48 <rubiks120> question mark here too

23:48 <freelarry> shows question mark or dollar symbol here too

23:48 <zombie67> MT, there are other packages included with 2.5

23:49 <MTughan> What do you mean by packages?

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23:49 <zombie67> WebObjects.mpkg

23:50 <zombie67> XcodeToolsLeopard.mpkg

23:50 <MTughan> Just run Xcode Tools. You can choose to install WebObjects later.

23:50 <zombie67> I already installed xcode

23:50 <zombie67> just wondering if I should install the others?

23:50 <MTughan> They're options from the other package.

23:51 <zombie67> 585gb avail of 698gb total

23:51 <zombie67> is that a yes or no?

23:51 <MTughan> 750GB drive?

23:51 <zombie67> yeah

23:51 <zombie67> got room for 3 more

23:51 <MTughan> Is that where you want to install it to?

23:51 <zombie67> that is my home drive.  I was pointing out that space is not an issue

23:52 <zombie67> so do i install them?

23:52 <MTughan> Hehe...

23:52 <MTughan> If you want.

23:52 <zombie67> XcodeToolsLeopard.mpkg = red !

23:53 <zombie67> chud!

23:53 <zombie67> that is what I needed

23:54 <zombie67> do I care about 10.2.8 support?

23:54 <MTughan> Probably not.

23:56 <zombie67> about = Version 2.5

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