00:05 <rubiks120|afk> hi
00:06 <Tank_Master> wb
00:06 <rubiks120|afk> ty
00:06 <rubiks120|afk> rough day at the pool table today
00:10 <rubiks120|afk> but Im done for the day
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00:20 <Tank_Master> wb
00:28 <Soul_keeper> bla
00:28 <Tank_Master> howdy
00:28 <MTughan> &cad
00:29 <MTughan> Oh, that's awkward...
00:29 <MTughan> &xkcd
00:30 <MTughan> rofl
00:30 <Tank_Master> :P
00:31 <MTughan> Anyway, I'm off to bed...
00:31 <Tank_Master> tc
00:31 <MTughan> Damn, /setaway isn't there anymore...
00:32 <Tank_Master> lol
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00:55 <Tank_Master> yo yoyo!
00:55 <yoyo[RKN]> jo
00:56 <yoyo[RKN]> <---- breakfast
00:56 <Tank_Master> <---- past dinner
00:57 <rubiks120> <--- past 1 am snack
00:57 <Tank_Master> hehe
00:59 <rubiks120> best time of the day
00:59 <Tank_Master> lol
01:00 <rubiks120> its quiet and peaceful
01:04 <Tank_Master> same in here
01:05 <rubiks120> oo I even get some snow flurries outside right now
01:05 <Tank_Master> SWEET!
01:05 <rubiks120> yup
01:05 <Tank_Master> its to warm here now
01:05 <Tank_Master> but we did have icey loads this monring
01:05 <rubiks120> my computer is telling me its 45 outside
01:05 <Tank_Master> roads*
01:05 <Tank_Master> mine says its 44
01:06 <Tank_Master> sont believe it since it was 39 at dinner time
01:06 <rubiks120> yea
01:06 <rubiks120> it was colder at dinner time here too, only 34
01:07 <Tank_Master> 35 here now
01:07 <rubiks120> hmm thats odd
01:07 <yoyo[RKN]> -4 here
01:07 <rubiks120> ouch, thats rough yoyo, I dont want to be there right now
01:08 <rubiks120> Im enjoying this weather still on the edge of shorts weather
01:09 <Tank_Master> &math convert -4 celecious to farenheight
01:09 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: celecious is not a valid unit.
01:09 <Tank_Master> faa
01:09 <Tank_Master> el piece of crappo
01:09 <rubiks120> Tank you have a typo there
01:10 <rubiks120> &math convert -4 celsius to farenheight
01:10 <Romulus> rubiks120: Error: celsius is not a valid unit.
01:10 <Tank_Master> &math convert -4 celsuis to farenheight
01:10 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: celsuis is not a valid unit.
01:10 <rubiks120> doh
01:10 <rubiks120> &math convert -4 C to F
01:10 <Romulus> rubiks120: 24.8
01:10 <rubiks120> there we go
01:10 <Tank_Master> gaa
01:10 <Tank_Master> go figure
01:11 <rubiks120> yea
01:11 <rubiks120> think simple
01:11 <Tank_Master> to bad they arent all simple
01:11 <rubiks120> what do you mean?
01:12 <Tank_Master> some of the other conversion are the shorthand
01:12 <Tank_Master> arent*
01:12 <rubiks120> oo
01:12 <rubiks120> thats a pretty nice bot though
01:13 <Tank_Master> weather.com is saying Rain/ Snow showers for friday and sunday for here
01:13 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007
01:13 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 39.3°F / 4.1°C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 30.48in / 1032.1hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then mostly cloudy. A slight chance of showers mainly in the evening. Areas of fog. Lows around 30. Light wind.; Wednesday - Cloudy. Areas of fog in the morning. Light rain likely in the afternoon. Highs (1 more message)
01:13 <Tank_Master> &more
01:13 <Romulus> Tank_Master: around 40. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Wednesday Night - Rain in the evening...then showers after midnight. Lows around 35. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the southwest 5 to 15 mph after midnight.;
01:13 <yoyo[RKN]> &weather berlin
01:13 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 25Â°F / -4Â°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 30.27in / 1025hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 6:50 AM CET; Scattered Clouds. High:37 ° F. / 3 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:24 ° F. / -4 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:39 ° F. / 4 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:30 ° F. / -1 ° C.; Overcast. High:42 ° F. / 6 ° C.; Rain. Low:35 ° F. / 2 ° C.;
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01:17 <rubiks120> &weather 06269
01:17 <Romulus> rubiks120: Temperature: 44°F / 7°C | Humidity: 49% | Pressure: 30.10in / 1019hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h ; Overnight - Partly cloudy. A slight chance of snow showers. Much cooler with lows in the upper 20s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Gusts up to 20 mph...increasing to 30 mph. Chance of snow 20 percent.; Wednesday - Sunny. Much cooler with highs in the lower 40s. (1 more message)
01:17 <rubiks120> nice
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02:32 <Tank_Master> gn
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03:19 <freelarry> &zipinfo 06269
03:19 <Romulus> freelarry: City: Storrs Mansfield; State: CT; County: Tolland; Area Code: 860; Time Zone: EST; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 41.8088 (North); Longitude: 72.2487 (West)
03:20 <freelarry> &zipinfo 98366
03:20 <Romulus> freelarry: City: Port Orchard; State: WA; County: Kitsap; Area Code: 360; Time Zone: PST; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 47.5378 (North); Longitude: 122.5894 (West)
03:20 <freelarry> &zipinfo 52601
03:20 <Romulus> freelarry: City: Burlington; State: IA; County: Des Moines; Area Code: 319; Time Zone: CST; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 40.8532 (North); Longitude: 91.1004 (West)
03:30 <Tidus> &weather 72764
03:30 <Romulus> Tidus: Temperature: 45.1°F / 7.3°C | Humidity: 64% | Pressure: 30.17in / 1021.6hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 10.0mph / 16.1km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the lower 40s. South winds 10 to 15 mph.; Wednesday - Partly cloudy in the morning then becoming mostly cloudy. Highs in the upper 50s. Southwest winds 10 to 20 mph.; Wednesday Night - Partly cloudy in the (1 more message)
03:31 <Tidus> &zipinfo 72764
03:31 <Romulus> Tidus: City: Springdale; State: AR; County: Washington; Area Code: 479; Time Zone: CST; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 36.1771 (North); Longitude: 94.0897 (West)
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04:13 <CoderForLife> morning, any and all
04:24 <CoderForLife> brb breakfast
04:34 <CoderForLife> b
04:34 * CoderForLife sneezes
04:39 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140
04:40 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 27.2°F / -2.7°C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 30.42in / 1030.0hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Warmer with highs in the mid 50s. South winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then mostly cloudy with isolated rain showers after midnight. Lows in the lower 30s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of (1 more message)
04:40 <CoderForLife> &more
04:40 <Romulus> CoderForLife: rain 20 percent.; Thursday - Mostly sunny. Cooler with highs in the lower 40s. West winds 10 to 15 mph.;
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04:44 * quail is surprisingly tired and all he has done is household chores today
04:51 * CoderForLife is just tired
04:55 <CoderForLife> I guess I'm going to get to w@#% early - got so much to do, and family issues are looking like they are going to intervene as well
04:55 <CoderForLife> laterzzz
05:04 <PriitM> someone please turn the sun off, i can't play starcraft
05:05 <quail> click
05:49 <xcamel> boo
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06:11 <BadBarbarian> morning
06:13 <PriitM> hai2u
06:20 <BadBarbarian> hi
07:12 <MTughan> Ooh, nice split...
07:12 <MTughan> About two and a half hours ago.
07:12 <MTughan> Wait, three and a half...
07:12 <MTughan> Anyway, my Mac is staying here today, so just let mweltin know if he comes and sees me sitting on the channel.
07:12 <MTughan> Because I don't even have subversion yet! :P
07:15 <MTughan> Cool... Xcode and Interface Builder are workin' fine.
07:20 <MTughan> Well, I'm off. See you all later.
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07:22 <wdsmia> mornin Jay
07:23 <hawmps> Hi
07:23 <hawmps> graceful recovery from an LVM crash
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08:10 <PriitM> Site Under Construction
08:11 <quail> sweet it propagated, I only made that site like 10 min ago :-)
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08:23 <hawmps> picked up here too..
08:24 <quail> kewl :-)
08:24 <quail> hi Jay, how are you mate?
08:25 <hawmps> good enough
08:25 <quail> Jay wow look at the snow at your place, love the bigger images
08:25 <hawmps> thanks
08:26 <quail> I guess they running at full res now? 640x480?
08:27 <hawmps> I found a better way to get the images in without killing the bandwidth
08:27 <quail> :-)
08:27 <quail> the images look great :-)
08:28 <hawmps> need to "up" the jpeg quality just a bit
08:29 <quail> still good tho, I see what needed
08:51 <hawmps> should be a bit better now
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09:53 <hawmps> &weather 12020
09:53 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 34.9°F / 1.6°C | Humidity: 62% | Pressure: 30.27in / 1024.9hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 7.0mph / 11.3km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Cold with highs in the upper 30s. North winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s. East winds around 5 mph...increasing to south 10 to 15 mph after midnight.; Thursday - A chance of snow showers (1 more message)
09:53 <hawmps> &more
09:53 <Romulus> hawmps: in the morning. Mostly cloudy with a chance of rain showers. Highs in the mid 40s. Southwest winds around 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of precipitation 50 percent.;
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10:43 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007
10:43 <Tank_Master> &more
10:43 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.
10:43 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 39.0°F / 3.9°C | Humidity: 90% | Pressure: 30.44in / 1030.7hPa | Conditions: Fog | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Cloudy. Areas of fog in the morning. Local dense fog early with visibility one quarter mile. Patchy freezing fog possible early. Rain likely in the afternoon. Highs around 40. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Rain in the evening...then (1 more message)
10:43 <Tank_Master> &more
10:43 <Romulus> Tank_Master: showers after midnight. Lows around 35. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the southwest 5 to 15 mph after midnight.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy. Showers likely in the morning...then a chance of showers in the afternoon. Highs around 45. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph.;
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12:46 <hawmps> boof...
13:30 <TM-Work> quiet day
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13:47 <freelarry> &quiet
13:47 <Romulus> Shhhhh... Day Sleepers
13:47 <freelarry> well got a hold of one contractor to give estimate for flooring here
13:48 <freelarry> they'll be over on friday to give estimate
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13:54 <hawmps> very...
13:55 <hawmps> kiddies are all sleeping
13:57 <freelarry> dreaming of sugarplums dancing in head .. waiting ohh so patiently for St. Nick to appear
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14:17 <Tank_Master> I was dreaming of GeFoce 8800s dancing in my head...
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14:20 * yoyo_RKN needs a mac
14:20 * Tank_Master slaps yoyo for saying that
14:21 * yoyo_RKN needs a mac for testing
14:22 * PovAddict slaps Tank_Master for slapping
14:22 * Tank_Master 's nervs are being tested by yoyo
14:22 * Tank_Master kicks PovAddict
14:23 * yoyo_RKN slaps Tank_Master with a 80h ogr wu
14:24 * Tank_Master is horrifyed
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14:25 <PovAddict> stop
14:25 <PovAddict> slapping
14:25 <PovAddict> people
14:26 * Tank_Master pokes PovAddict
14:26 * E-30 slaps Tank_Master around a bit with a large trout
14:26 <E-30> there
14:26 * Tank_Master is smelly now
14:26 <E-30> next time it a 2x4
14:28 <hawmps> "clue by four"
14:29 <E-30> lol
14:38 <Tank_Master> and if you paint it blue, then it is a blue's clue by four
14:40 <hawmps> the tool for "LARTing"
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15:06 <MTughan> yoyo_RKN: What app do you need tested?
15:07 <MTughan> Because I've got a temporary OS X install on an external drive. Am on it right now.
15:07 <yoyo_RKN> the evolution application, only if it starts
15:08 <MTughan> Where do I get it?
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15:08 <MTughan> 'lo mweltin
15:08 <mweltin> hey
15:08 <yoyo_RKN> I can send it via dcc
15:08 <MTughan> Okay, I can try it.
15:08 <yoyo_RKN> one moment
15:08 <mweltin> I'm spent, got sick last night
15:09 <mweltin> 100.4 fever so far and climbing
15:09 <mweltin> not going to hang out long, just wanted to see what everyone was up to.
15:09 <MTughan> My Mac's *back up*.
15:09 <mweltin> good, so that is the new OS
15:10 <MTughan> I'm running a temporary install on an external drive.
15:10 <MTughan> No, still not Leopard.
15:10 <PovAddict> &math convert 100.4 F C
15:10 <Romulus> PovAddict: 38
15:10 <mweltin> at least its up
15:10 <Tank_Master> hiya mw
15:10 <PovAddict> well, could be worse...
15:10 <MTughan> brb, sis's having trouble.
15:11 <mweltin> could be much worse I'm just going to sleep the day away
15:11 <mweltin> should be fine tomorrow.
15:11 <mweltin> Hi tank
15:11 <Tank_Master> sup?
15:11 <Tank_Master> go diving, wouldnt that cool you off? ;)
15:11 <mweltin> a littel under the weather, nothing serious I hope.
15:11 <hawmps> fc8 compiz-fusion -- no tray icon (very stupid)
15:11 <mweltin> I went yesterday and it did cool me off
15:11 <yoyo_RKN> : &weather berlin
15:12 <yoyo_RKN> &weather berlin
15:12 <mweltin> but I could feel it coming on so I never made the night dive.
15:12 <Romulus> yoyo_RKN: Temperature: 36Â°F / 2Â°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 30.06in / 1018hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 8:50 PM CET; Partly Cloudy. High:41 ° F. / 5 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:28 ° F. / -2 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. High:41 ° F. / 5 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:33 ° F. / 1 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:42 ° F. / 6 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:35 ° F. / 2 ° C.;
15:12 <mweltin> you have to be careful about your ears
15:12 <mweltin> when you are sick
15:12 <mweltin> If I'm at 60 feet and my ears clog up
15:12 <Tank_Master> ahh
15:13 <mweltin> you get a reverse block as you come up to the surface
15:13 <hawmps> lovely cold season
15:13 <mweltin> there isn't anything you can do about a reverse block.
15:13 <mweltin> you wouldn't think a tropical place has a cold season but it dose apparently.
15:14 <hawmps> cold and flu season....
15:14 <mweltin> you can get a flu shot here
15:14 <mweltin> who knew
15:14 <hawmps> ditto -
15:15 <hawmps> I hate shots period
15:16 <mweltin> I did think of a small optimization for TSP however.
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15:16 <Tank_Master> lol
15:16 <Tank_Master> never stops, dose it?
15:16 <mweltin> the preifx of the path doesn't chagne, yet I calculate it every time.
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15:17 <Tank_Master> ahh
15:17 <mweltin> I can just calc the suffix and add that to the predetermined prefix.
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15:17 <mweltin> nope never stops
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15:17 <mweltin> I wake up thinking about it sometimes.
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15:21 <MTughan> Back.
15:22 <MTughan> Somehow, her iTunes library was corrupted.
15:22 <mweltin> hahaah
15:22 <mweltin> you are one nice guy
15:22 <MTughan> My dad and I are the computer folk. My mom and sis are quite inept.
15:22 <PovAddict> lol
15:23 <mweltin> I'm sure htey have other qualities
15:23 <MTughan> Okay... yoyo_RKN: You just need me to run it as a normal app?
15:23 <MTughan> Sure, but they're computer inept at least.
15:23 <yoyo_RKN> yes, just to check if it starts
15:23 <MTughan> Proof? She's getting to like Office '07.
15:23 <MTughan> And she needs more help...
15:23 <mweltin> I'm not a fan of itunes
15:25 <PriitM> I'm a fan of apple products
15:25 <mweltin> I did get to use the new ipods
15:25 <mweltin> I have to admit that was cool
15:28 <mweltin> thats about all I can take, I'm going to go back to bed.
15:28 <mweltin> later
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15:30 <MTughan> yoyo_RKN: Seems to run fine.
15:30 <yoyo_RKN> ok, thx
15:30 <PovAddict> The life span of internet videos:
15:30 <yoyo_RKN> is it for ppc or intel
15:31 <PovAddict> Original host website > stolen for ebaumsworld > stolen for youtube > embedded on blogs.
15:31 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Unnamed - post number 800873 (at www.pastebin.ca)
15:32 <yoyo_RKN> yes looks fine
15:32 <MTughan> Okay, it's not a normal application like most are. It's a file unto itself. "file" identifies it: "S005r6gSimulatorCarbon: header for PowerPC PEF executable"
15:33 <PovAddict> "normal application"?
15:33 <MTughan> Which is actually very similar to Office.
15:33 <PovAddict> apps are files
15:33 <MTughan> Most apps on OS X look like files, but they're actually folders.
15:33 <MTughan> With a structure very similar to Y! widgets.
15:40 <MTughan> yoyo_RKN: I got a benchmark result from it, about 0.27 MINDS.
15:41 <MTughan> Of course, I'm also building GIMP while it was running, so my comp can probably go faster.
15:41 <yoyo_RKN> I will deliver it as evo app when I have more time
15:42 <yoyo_RKN> go sleeping now, bye
15:42 <MTughan> Bye.
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15:48 <xcamel> re-hi
15:48 <MTughan> 'lo Jay
15:58 <xcamel> 'lo Mike
16:00 <freelarry> have noticed only one difference so far while using x.x.30 over x.x.28 tray icon works a little better
16:01 <freelarry> icon on one machine had stuck on sleeping mode even tho .28 was running apps
16:02 <freelarry> upgrade to .30 got it working right again
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16:27 <rubiks120> hi
16:36 <PriitM> good evening
16:37 <rubiks120> how are you doing PriitM
16:37 <PriitM> fine, thanks
16:37 <PriitM> you?
16:38 <rubiks120> Im doing pretty good, looking to procastinate on some studying
16:39 <MTughan> PovAddict: Do you remember the compiler flags that crunch3r said to use for TSP?
16:39 <PovAddict> no
16:40 <MTughan> I remember -ffast-math, but there was one about vectorizing...
16:40 <PovAddict> from the log, something *you* sent:
16:41 <PovAddict> <MTughan> gcc -O3 -ftree-vectorize -ffast-math -march=prescott -arch i386 lib/tspParser.cpp -c -o i386_build/tspParser.o
16:41 <MTughan> Oh, thanks...
16:42 <MTughan> Do you know if .PHONY target in Makefile can take multiple targets?
16:42 <PovAddict> yes it can, space-separated
16:42 <MTughan> Cool...
16:43 <PovAddict> .PHONY: clean distclean
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16:56 <freelarry> humm well found 2 stores that recycle parts for comps here one will test the item for a charge before selling it to you
16:57 <freelarry> so field trip next week to try and get a 5.25 floppy drive
16:57 <MTughan> lol
16:57 <MTughan> Oh, 'lo zombie67
16:57 <zombie67> hi
16:57 <rubiks120> freelarry, you actually found a drive?
16:58 <freelarry> then hopefully will be able to copy the stuff off these very old diskettes onto hd for people to play with
16:58 <freelarry> each store has 15 to 20 in used bins
16:58 <MTughan> Anyone know if rm can take multiple files to delete?
16:58 <PovAddict> yes it can
16:58 <MTughan> Okay, that helps...
16:59 <PovAddict> in fact, when you do "rm *.o", it's the *shell* that expands the wildcard (not rm) and then passes one argument per filename
16:59 <MTughan> Nice.
16:59 <freelarry> hey PovAddict do you know if linux supports 5.25 floppy drives?
17:00 <PovAddict> so if you have a filename with spaces... bad things happen
17:00 <PovAddict> freelarry: why not... question would be if your bios can still handle it
17:00 <MTughan> That's why quotes are useful...
17:00 <freelarry> lol true that i will have to look at but if not the new machine i have a fw mb's in operation that i know the bios do support still
17:01 <freelarry> this machine in particular and it still has a drive bay open
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17:03 <MTughan> I know you can force rm to ignore files that don't exist with -f... Anything similar for mkdir, so it ignores it if the directory already exists?
17:03 <freelarry> about time to offer moral support for wife while she does the phone in appearance for the goofup with unemployment
17:03 <freelarry> &bye ttyl
17:03 <Romulus> later ace
17:04 <PovAddict> rm -f doesn't ignore those files...
17:04 <PovAddict> or...
17:05 <MTughan> How do I end an if shell statement? There's nothing in mkdir according to man.
17:05 <PovAddict> type it backwards
17:05 <PovAddict> fi ends if, esac ends case
17:05 <MTughan> if [-f <dir>]; echo "true"; fi
17:06 <MTughan> Doesn't work.
17:06 <PovAddict> because it's not a file :)
17:06 <PovAddict> -f checks if it exists and if it's a regular file
17:06 <MTughan> -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `fi'
17:06 <PovAddict> ah hmm
17:06 <PovAddict> oh 'then'
17:06 <PovAddict> if COMMANDS; then COMMANDS; fi
17:07 <MTughan> Yep, that worked. Now I get that -f doesn't exist.
17:07 <MTughan> -bash: [-f: command not found
17:07 <zombie67> bbl
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17:07 <PovAddict> space
17:07 <PovAddict> [ -f file ]
17:07 <MTughan> Okay, no output. Thanks!
17:07 <PovAddict> anyway, you want either -e (exists) or -d (exists and is directory)
17:07 <PovAddict> -f will not work for a directory
17:07 <MTughan> Ah, yes. -d is what I want.
17:08 <MTughan> Darn it... Now I want to negate that! Same as other languages? "!"
17:08 <PovAddict> yes, but you need an extra space
17:09 <PovAddict> [ ! -d file ]
17:09 <PovAddict> remember everything is split in spaces first
17:09 <MTughan> Yeah.
17:09 <PovAddict> $ help test
17:10 <MTughan> That's where the -d, -f, -e switches come from?
17:10 <PovAddict> '[' is just an alias for 'test'
17:12 <MTughan> Okay, seems that the build is going along as well as it can at this point. I haven't built and installed BOINC or expat yet. :P
17:15 <MTughan> Do you happen to remember the BOINC wiki article name where the SVN sources can be found? I found it last night on my Linux machine, but I can't seem to retrace my steps...
17:15 <PovAddict> SourceCode
17:16 <MTughan> You're my saviour this afternoon... :P
17:21 <MTughan> bbl
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17:22 <PovAddict> &math calc 36 ** 4
17:22 <Romulus> PovAddict: 1679616
17:22 <PovAddict> &math calc 36 ** 5
17:22 <Romulus> PovAddict: 60466176
17:22 <PovAddict> &math calc 36 ** 6
17:22 <Romulus> PovAddict: 2176782336
17:22 <PovAddict> &math calc 2 ** 31
17:22 <Romulus> PovAddict: 2147483648
17:31 <MTughan> Back earlier than I thought I'd be...
17:33 <Romulus> Title: BadVista.org: Stopping Microsoft Windows Vista adoption by promoting free software BadVista (at badvista.fsf.org)
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17:56 <wdsmia> *lo all
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18:09 <wdsmia> &weather 50265
18:10 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 32°F / 0°C | Humidity: 48% | Pressure: 30.11in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Low 15 to 20. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph shifting to the west 5 to 15 mph after midnight.; Thursday - Partly sunny. High in the upper 30s. Southwest wind 10 to 15 mph.; Thursday Night - Mostly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of (1 more message)
18:10 <wdsmia> &more
18:10 <Romulus> wdsmia: snow. Low in the lower 20s. Southwest wind 5 to 15 mph.;
18:10 <freelarry> well phone part over with - now just wait on the mail for determination
18:11 <freelarry> interesting thing is the one testifing for unemployment agency needed an interpretor
18:12 <freelarry> and he's the one suposedly interperting the rules?
18:15 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007
18:15 <Tank_Master> &more
18:15 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.
18:15 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 41.5°F / 5.3°C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1021.9hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Rain this evening...possibly mixed with snow early. No accumulations expected. Then showers after midnight. Lows 30 to 35. Light wind...becoming southwest wind 5 to 15 mph.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy. Showers likely in the (1 more message)
18:15 <Tank_Master> &more
18:15 <Romulus> Tank_Master: morning...then a chance of showers in the afternoon. Highs around 45. South wind 5 to 15 mph.; Thursday Night - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers. Lows 30 to 35. South wind 5 to 10 mph becoming light after midnight.;
18:16 <Tank_Master> snow's already here
18:17 <freelarry> rain here snow a little north of here
18:17 <wdsmia> I bit quick on the trigger there TM with the &more
18:18 <Tank_Master> not my fault rommie is slow
18:18 <freelarry> &weather 98366
18:18 <Romulus> freelarry: Temperature: 37°F / 3°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 30.25in / 1024hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h ; Tonight - Rain or wet snow. Local accumulations of an inch or so possible...mainly on hilltops away from bodies of water. Lows in the lower to mid 30s. Southeast wind 10 to 15 mph this evening becoming light.; Thursday - Showers likely. Highs in the upper (1 more message)
18:18 <freelarry> &more
18:18 <Romulus> freelarry: 30s to mid 40s. North wind to 10 mph.; Thursday Night - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s to mid 30s. Northeast wind to 10 mph.; Special Weather Statement for Kitsap County in effect until 10:15 PM PST on November 28, 2007;
18:19 <freelarry> humm icy conditions for when i get off tomorrow and commute home
18:19 <Tank_Master> sweet!
18:19 <Tank_Master> keeps things interesting
18:19 <wdsmia> bumper cars
18:19 <freelarry> very on 25+mile trip
18:19 <Tank_Master> hehe
18:21 * freelarry wonders if he can extend his vaction a few more days? could but weather will still be 'orrible
18:23 * wdsmia would like to take vacation fot the next 16 weeks... to bad I only have 3 days on the books :-(
18:24 <wdsmia> ok who moved the r key
18:25 <Tank_Master> sorry
18:25 * freelarry sneaks back behind his own kb
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18:25 <Tank_Master> BB!
18:25 <freelarry> still have 4 weeks of leave onbooks wdsmia
18:25 <BadBarbarian_> hey brb
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18:27 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2007 November 28 - Comet Holmes from the Hubble Space Telescope (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)
18:27 <BadBarbarian_> hey tank it takes 10 hrs for the cancer one from wcg
18:28 <BadBarbarian_> on my laptop
18:28 <freelarry> humm xcamel isn't that your runaway fission reactor in the pic?
18:28 <Tank_Master> yeah, some of those are long one
18:29 <Tank_Master> not as bad as QMC though ;)
18:29 <BadBarbarian_> so 10 hrs is not to bad for my single core 2 gig 64bit
18:29 <Tank_Master> no
18:29 <BadBarbarian_> cool
18:30 * freelarry notes no problems appearing with 64 bit 5.x.30 so far
18:30 <freelarry> on windows anyway
18:30 <freelarry> installed over top of 32bit version boinc
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18:31 <BadBarbarian_> wah
18:31 <Tank_Master> lol
18:32 <BadBarbarian_> cat wait thill my quad gets back
18:32 <BadBarbarian_> till
18:32 <Tank_Master> hehe
18:32 <BadBarbarian_> tired spent all day at the VA for tests
18:32 <Tank_Master> fun times ;)
18:33 <Tank_Master> ill bbl
18:33 <Tank_Master> huh, just noticed its to be 31 and raining tonight...
18:34 <BadBarbarian_> well there redoing the history of all soldiers from the first iraq war for exposer to cemical weapons
18:35 <BadBarbarian_> my fingers are not well tonight lol
18:52 <CoderForLife> hello folks
18:52 <MTughan> 'lo CFL
18:52 <CoderForLife> hey MTughan
18:53 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140
18:53 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 46.6°F / 8.1°C | Humidity: 58% | Pressure: 30.08in / 1018.5hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy this evening...then mostly cloudy with isolated rain showers after midnight. Lows in the mid 30s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Gusts up to 30 mph late. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Thursday - Mostly sunny. Cooler with highs (1 more message)
18:53 <CoderForLife> &more
18:53 <Romulus> CoderForLife: in the lower 40s. West winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph.; Thursday Night - Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 20s. West winds around 5 mph...becoming south after midnight.;
18:56 <BadBarbarian_> Lo CFL
18:56 <PovAddict> need a quick check
18:56 <BadBarbarian_> &weather 86023
18:56 <Romulus> BadBarbarian_: Temperature: 40°F / 4°C | Humidity: 18% | Pressure: 30.32in / 1026hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 27 on the North Rim to around 33 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Thursday - Partly cloudy. Highs around 45 on the North Rim to around 67 along the Colorado River. Light winds becoming southwest around 15 mph in (1 more message)
18:56 <BadBarbarian_> &more
18:56 <Romulus> BadBarbarian_: the afternoon.; Thursday Night - Mostly cloudy. Lows around 30 on the North Rim to around 50 along the Colorado River. Light winds.;
18:56 <PovAddict> any linux or mac user currently running boinc, check what nice level the science apps are running
18:57 <MTughan> No Macs available unless zombie67 was here.
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18:59 <Romulus> WB, Boss
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19:00 <MTughan> 'lo e
19:01 <efc> hey
19:04 <MTughan> Yay! I have TSP Intel building!
19:13 <MTughan> Okay, both TSP apps build fine.
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19:19 <CoderForLife> back
19:19 <CoderForLife> hey Bad Barbarian
19:19 <CoderForLife> hey there Mr. PovAddict
19:19 <CoderForLife> hey efc
19:19 <PovAddict> _o/
19:20 <zombie67> hi
19:20 <CoderForLife> hey zombie67
19:20 <MTughan> PovAddict: You needed Mac/Linux info?
19:20 <PovAddict> got it already
19:24 <zombie67> on one of my PCs, replaced the PD 945 with a Q6600. The took that PD 945, and used it to replace a PD 820 on another box. Life is good.
19:25 <efc> saw a nice case on anand, its got a 7" LCD and a volume control built in.. I'm sure you could abuse that for boinc somehow
19:25 <MTughan> zombie67: Do you have a 64-bit PPC Mac?
19:25 <zombie67> all G5 are 64 bit. I have two G5 boxes (one is a quad). However, they run tiger 10.4, which is only partially 64 bit.
19:26 <MTughan> I'm trying to compile expat as PPC 64-bit for TSP. I was wondering if you could help make sure it works.
19:27 <zombie67> depends. what do you need me to do?
19:27 <MTughan> I'm not totally sure actually. PovAddict had the idea.
19:27 <PovAddict> you should compile tsp with that library
19:27 <PovAddict> then give him tsp to test
19:28 <MTughan> I can't compile BOINC as 64-bit though.
19:28 <PovAddict> :o?
19:28 <PovAddict> why not? can't boinc's configure script take --host?
19:28 <MTughan> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Headers/MachineExceptions.h:286: error: typedef 'ExceptionHandlerProcPtr' is initialized (use __typeof__ instead)
19:29 <PovAddict> hrm
19:30 <MTughan> expat will build fine under 64-bit though.
19:30 <MTughan> So I have 4 builds of expat now.
19:30 <PovAddict> go on clicking "Next message" until the end of the thread
19:32 <MTughan> Looks like they're talking about x86_64.
19:33 <zombie67> bbl
19:33 <MTughan> Yeah, doesn't help with PPC64. I can try x86_64 though.
19:34 <PovAddict> how many ppc64 macs are there anyway?
19:34 <MTughan> I know zombie67 has at least two.
19:34 <MTughan> All the G5s were PPC64.
19:34 <PovAddict> oh, he said "all G5 are 64 bit"
19:35 <MTughan> So that's all later Power Macs and iMacs, before the Intel switch.
19:35 <PovAddict> you're on an Intel32 now?
19:35 <MTughan> Core Duo, yep.
19:35 <MTughan> Same error with x86_64.
19:36 <MTughan> That error I pasted too, that's one of 7.
19:36 <PovAddict> pastebin plz
19:36 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Someone - post number 801129 (at www.pastebin.ca)
19:37 <PovAddict> is that from the x86_64 or ppc64?
19:37 <PovAddict> nvm
19:37 <MTughan> x64_64, although I get the same error with PPC64.
19:38 <MTughan> s/x64_64/x86_64/
19:38 <PovAddict> do you have the latest boinc code from svn?
19:39 <MTughan> Downloaded today.
19:39 <PovAddict> did you "make distclean" before configure-ing?
19:39 <MTughan> Before configuring? No.
19:39 <PovAddict> ok no problem if it was a fresh copy...
19:39 <MTughan> I did make clean before make.
19:41 <CoderForLife> I'm going to go off and do some w@#% homew@#%
19:41 <MTughan> Bye.
19:41 <CoderForLife> cya folks soon
19:42 <PovAddict> try make distclean and start from the beginning (./_autosetup; ./configure --disable-server --disable-client --host=whatever)
19:42 <efc> later cfl
19:42 <PovAddict> cya CoderForLife
19:42 <efc> Is there a way to limit the number of simultaneous downloads boinc tries?
19:42 <rubiks120> hi
19:43 <PovAddict> yes there is efc
19:43 <PovAddict> I'll tell you aaafter dinner -->
19:44 <efc> The agony!
19:44 <MTughan> lol
19:44 <MTughan> If I had to guess, I'd say in Options->Preferences.
19:45 <efc> At the website or in the client?
19:46 <MTughan> Client.
19:51 <MTughan> PovAddict: For when you come back, same error.
19:52 <efc> nothing there, i give up
19:52 <MTughan> All right, I wasn't sure.
19:52 <MTughan> I haven't reinstalled BOINC on my machine yet.
19:56 <zombie67> "So that's all later Power Macs and iMacs, before the Intel switch." except for the laptops. they never went past G4. G5s were just too hot.
19:57 <zombie67> pov: milkyway is having problems
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20:01 <MTughan_> Ah, that explains why my comp froze up... Kernel panic.
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20:01 <MTughan> Did I miss anything after I said that I hadn't reinstalled BOINC yet?
20:02 <rubiks120> doesnt look like it MTughan, unless the conversation on mac processors affects you
20:02 <MTughan> Probably doesn't affect me, but might interest me.
20:03 <rubiks120> actually just says G5s were too hot for laptops
20:03 <MTughan> Which is why they stayed with G4s and part of the reason they switched to Intel.
20:04 <rubiks120> well if you know that much then you didnt miss a thing
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20:07 <zombie67> that is what I said
20:08 <zombie67> laptops never went past G4, because the G5s were too hot.
20:08 <rubiks120> I was recapping zombie67 =P
20:09 <zombie67> ah!
20:09 <rubiks120> personally, I dont have the know how in Macs to have been able to come up with that myself
20:12 <MTughan> Actually... zombie67, would you happen to have Xcode installed on one of your 64-bit Intel Macs?
20:14 <PovAddict> efc: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/ClientMessages
20:15 <MTughan> PovAddict: Same error.
20:15 <PovAddict> max_file_xfers and max_file_xfers_per_project
20:15 <zombie67> how do I check?
20:15 <PovAddict> MTughan: same error after trying what?
20:15 <MTughan> make distclean.
20:15 <PovAddict> ah yeah that
20:15 <MTughan> zombie67: You would've had to install it.
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20:15 <PovAddict> well I posted on boinc_dev before going
20:15 <zombie67> I may have. how do I check?
20:15 <MTughan> Check if /Developer exists.
20:16 <efc> Thanks Pov
20:16 <BadBarbarian> Evening every one
20:16 <MTughan> 'lo BB
20:17 <zombie67> yes, I have /Developer
20:17 <BadBarbarian> hows it going MT
20:17 <MTughan> Sweet... Can I get you to build BOINC for me? Both 64-bit Intel and PPC.
20:17 <PovAddict> lol I see problems
20:17 <zombie67> sure, if you walk me through it.
20:17 <MTughan> PovAddict: Okay, thanks for the post.
20:18 <PovAddict> that will be fun...
20:18 <zombie67> looking for copy/paset instructions....
20:18 <PovAddict> I think you'll get into recursion
20:18 <MTughan> Mind if we do this over private message? Just to not clutter the channel.
20:18 <zombie67> ok
20:18 <PovAddict> you need to compile boinc
20:18 <PovAddict> to do that, you first need to download it
20:18 <MTughan> Yep.
20:18 <PovAddict> to do that you need svn
20:19 <PovAddict> is svn included by default on macs?
20:19 <MTughan> You're getting ahead of me.
20:19 <PovAddict> or do you need some macports or fink or whatever thing?
20:19 <MTughan> Or I could tar and bunzip the src?
20:19 <PovAddict> yeah you could
20:20 <MTughan> PovAddict: Will doing autosetup hurt anything?
20:21 <PovAddict> no, it will just complain if autoconf/automake are missing
20:21 <xcamel> &weather 12074
20:21 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 26.1°F / -3.3°C | Humidity: 78% | Pressure: 30.30in / 1026.0hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows around 30. Southeast winds 10 to 15 mph.; Thursday - A chance of snow showers in the morning. Mostly cloudy with a chance of rain showers. Brisk with highs in the mid 40s. Southwest winds 15 to 25 mph. Chance of (1 more message)
20:21 <MTughan> No, if I do autosetup for zombie.
20:21 <xcamel> hmmm...
20:21 <MTughan> Because the default version of automake is too old.
20:21 <PovAddict> oh well... no I don't think it would cause problems
20:21 <PovAddict> *he* should run configure though
20:21 <MTughan> Yes, I agree.
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20:55 * xcamel yawns
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21:07 <zombie67> 8 min to go
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21:07 <MTughan_> My Mac doesn't like me today...
21:07 <zombie67> what was the url again?
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21:08 <MTughan> One sec...
21:09 <MTughan> &ping
21:09 <Romulus> pong
21:09 <Romulus> Title: Free file hosting by Savefile.com (at www.savefile.com)
21:11 <MTughan> Damn my Internet...
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21:16 <Tank_Master> haha
21:37 <MTughan> zombie67: You there?
21:40 <zombie67> I think I lost MT
21:40 <MTughan> I'm here.
21:40 <Tank_Master> no, not yet
21:40 <MTughan> I'm seeing your messages, but I don't think you see mine.
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21:41 <Tank_Master> zombie?
21:41 <Tank_Master> ahh
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21:41 <Tank_Master> n/m
21:41 <PovAddict> MTughan: I was seeing your messages
21:41 <MTughan> Damn, it does that whenever I try to send any files...
21:41 <Tank_Master> I could see your messahed MT
21:41 <MTughan> I was talking about zombie67.
21:42 <Tank_Master> but z aint respoinding
21:42 <MTughan> Yeah, he can't see any of our messages.
21:42 <MTughan> Not sure how to tell him that...
21:43 <MTughan> Oh, I should mention that he seemed to go out as he sent me a file.
21:44 <Tank_Master> he's not on the other channle Im on either, so I can relay
21:44 <zombie67> can anyone see me?
21:44 <MTughan> Relay what?
21:44 <PovAddict> zombie67: yes we can
21:44 <MTughan> Don't think that'll do much good though.
21:44 <Tank_Master> z!
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21:46 <MTughan1> There we go.
21:46 <MTughan1> I was trying to send him a short message by DCC over XChat Aqua.
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21:47 <MTughan1> I'll keep that on for now...
21:47 <Tank_Master> wb
21:47 <MTughan1> Can you see us now?
21:47 <zombie67> yes
21:47 <zombie67> what happ?
21:47 <MTughan1> Good. Yeah, you blanked out after you sent me the file.
21:47 <Tank_Master> can you see me now?
21:47 <MTughan1> lol TM.
21:47 <Tank_Master> :)
21:47 <Tank_Master> good
21:47 <zombie67> did you get the file?
21:48 <MTughan1> No, it didn't transfer.
21:48 <wdsmia> Tank_Master we can see you and man are you ugly :P
21:48 <MTughan1> ...
21:48 <Romulus> Title: Downloads (at homepage.mac.com)
21:48 <MTughan1> Ah, thanks.
21:48 <zombie67> you said there were two things?
21:48 <MTughan1> Yep, now for x86_64... :P
21:49 <zombie67> this on my intel box?
21:49 <zombie67> or my PPC?
21:49 <MTughan1> Do it on the Intel, I don't know if the PPC can do Intel builds.
21:49 * Tank_Master thwaps wdsmia and calls wdsmia's mama ungly
21:49 <zombie67> let me see if I have xcode
21:49 <zombie67> yep
21:49 <MTughan1> Good.
21:49 <wdsmia> lol
21:50 <zombie67> yo momma so fat....
21:50 <freelarry> she make budda seems underfed
21:50 <freelarry> ?
21:51 <zombie67> MT?
21:51 <MTughan1> Yeah?
21:51 <MTughan1> I sent you a private message.
21:51 <MTughan1> PovAddict: Response to boinc-dev...
21:51 <zombie67> nope
21:52 <PovAddict> MTughan1: yeah I saw it - did you?
21:52 <MTughan1> All right, well... Do you have the instructions from before?
21:52 <MTughan1> Reading it now.
21:52 <zombie67> you must have a passwd to do that
21:52 <zombie67> and you are MTughan1 right now
21:52 <MTughan1> I know.
21:52 <MTughan1> MTughan is XChat Aqua.
21:52 <PovAddict> you're probably not identified with nickserv under MTughan1...
21:52 <MTughan1> Oh, I know... Yeah.
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21:55 <PovAddict> MTughan: are you subscribed to the boinc_dev list?
21:56 <MTughan> Not right now.
21:56 <PovAddict> ...how did you notice the message? looking on the archive on the web?
21:56 <MTughan> Yeah.
21:56 <PovAddict> k
21:59 <MTughan> Hey, one question... Not supporting PPC64 because Apple hasn't released any PPC Macs. Why support PPC32 then?
21:59 <PovAddict> because ppc32 has been supported forever
21:59 <MTughan> As for the 10.5 SDK, I may be able to get it...
22:00 <MTughan> I can get the Xcode 3 installer. While it'll only run on Leopard, I may be able to get the SDK.
22:00 <PovAddict> boincstats shoutbox gets interesting...
22:01 <zombie67> pov: what you said there makes no sense
22:01 <PovAddict> <Vinb2k7> Is anyone having problems uploading wu's in Rosetta@home?
22:01 <PovAddict> <Seejay> @Vinb2k7: At the moment, no. I'm just having probs. finishing the bloody WUs.
22:01 <PovAddict> <StuartWhelan> Anyone else running just motherboards in cardbord boxes? :)
22:01 <PovAddict> <StuartWhelan> I pulled three old m/b's out of my junk pile, set them up as diskless clients running in a cardbord box and set them cracking last night
22:01 <PovAddict> seems interesting, to save on the case
22:02 <MTughan> Could be a fire hazard though.
22:02 <zombie67> "SIMAP already started the November batch, and there's still 50k workunits from October's!
22:02 <zombie67> "
22:02 <PovAddict> there may be heat problems if he has no fans tho, it's like running with sides off
22:02 <zombie67> ?
22:02 <PovAddict> zombie67: see batchmonitor
22:02 <zombie67> They started November alm0st a month ago!
22:02 <MTughan> It's because my Mac's not working on it! :P
22:02 <PovAddict> "Similarities of new sequences from october 2007"
22:03 <PovAddict> one batch from that is at 25.9%
22:03 <PovAddict> "Similarities of new sequences from november 2007" just started
22:03 <zombie67> probably re-runs. Most october is non-boinc
22:04 <PovAddict> maybe during month (n), starting at the beginning of the month, they calculate similarities of the proteins discovered during month (n-1)
22:04 <PovAddict> so that's why the new batch is "new sequences from november"
22:04 <freelarry> yes PovAddict i tried earlier - it gave servr shared memory error message
22:04 <freelarry> for rosetta that is
22:05 <PovAddict> zombie67: is that yours?!
22:05 <zombie67> hah!
22:05 <zombie67> nope
22:05 <zombie67> neat eh?
22:05 <zombie67> some metal rods, stand-offs....
22:05 <zombie67> who needs a box?
22:05 <Tank_Master> SWEET!
22:06 <Tank_Master> I just lay mine out on the desk
22:06 <zombie67> not for OC though...
22:06 <MTughan> Looks like an open style rack...
22:06 <MTughan> Heh. The network switches at the top.
22:06 <zombie67> the thing that always stops me from doiing something like that is the PSU
22:07 <Tank_Master> ?
22:07 <zombie67> I want one big PSU, with multiple cables out to each mobo
22:07 <MTughan> Power's not cheap...
22:07 <Tank_Master> just get a box fan and your set of OC
22:07 <MTughan> Now we start the download PovAddict has feared... Xcode 3. 1.1GB. :P
22:07 <zombie67> bah!
22:07 <PovAddict> gtfo
22:08 <zombie67> 1.1gb comes down fast via cable
22:08 <Tank_Master> of fiber
22:08 <Tank_Master> or*
22:08 <zombie67> or
22:08 <zombie67> ;)
22:08 <MTughan> I have ADSL.
22:08 <Tank_Master> HAHA
22:08 <zombie67> how fast?
22:08 <zombie67> asdl
22:08 <MTughan> I can usually reach about 500kb/s.
22:08 <Tank_Master> decent
22:08 <zombie67> adsl
22:08 <PovAddict> I have 600kbps cable
22:08 <MTughan> lol, no you don't.
22:08 <zombie67> 6mb d/l peak
22:09 <PovAddict> &google calc 500KB/s / 600kbps
22:09 <Romulus> PovAddict: (500 (KB / s)) / (600 kbps) = 6.66666667
22:09 <PovAddict> MTughan is 6.6 times faster than me
22:09 <MTughan> Although I'm getting 270KB/s right now.
22:09 <zombie67> how do I tell which version of xcode I have?
22:09 <MTughan> You have a Tiger machine?
22:09 <zombie67> da
22:09 <MTughan> It's 2.4
22:10 <PovAddict> 3.0 runs only on Leopard
22:10 <MTughan> Latest for Tiger is 2.5.
22:10 <zombie67> ah, so xcode version it tied to OS
22:10 <MTughan> No, 2.5 can run on Leopard I believe.
22:10 <PovAddict> it's just it doesn't run on leopard...
22:10 <PovAddict> analogy: recent version of visual studio running only on Vista
22:10 <Tank_Master> gaa,
22:10 <MTughan> Yes, 2.5 can run on both.
22:11 * Tank_Master is confused now
22:11 <zombie67> MT, let me know if you need anything else. payback for tsp mac apps!
22:11 <MTughan> Xcode 2.4 is Tiger, 2.5 is Tiger/Leopard, 3.0 is Leopard. That help Tank_Master?
22:11 <zombie67> how do I tell my version?
22:11 <MTughan> You have 2.4.
22:11 <Tank_Master> yep
22:11 <zombie67> not answering
22:11 <zombie67> how do I tell?
22:11 <Tank_Master> help about?
22:11 <Tank_Master> oh wate...
22:11 <MTughan> All right. Boot Xcode, then go "Xcode->About"
22:12 <MTughan> As with all other OS X applications.
22:12 <zombie67> csh: Boot: Command not found.
22:12 <PovAddict> >.>
22:12 <MTughan> "open /Developer/Applications/Xcode.app"
22:13 <zombie67> 2.4.1
22:13 <MTughan> What did I say?
22:13 <zombie67> should I upgrade to 2.5?
22:13 <MTughan> You'll need a Developer account to do so.
22:13 <zombie67> I have ine
22:13 <Tank_Master> or upgrade to leperd and go with 3.0...
22:13 <zombie67> one
22:14 <Romulus> Title: Apple Developer Connection (at developer.apple.com)
22:14 <zombie67> how do you think I got this version?
22:14 <MTughan> I thought from your OS X DVD.
22:14 <zombie67> nope
22:14 <zombie67> gotta be ADC member
22:15 <MTughan> To run Xcode? No, you just need to own OS X.
22:15 <MTughan> It comes with Xcode as an additional package.
22:15 <zombie67> no....
22:15 <MTughan> Tiger did.
22:15 <MTughan> Okay yeah, I can't compile those TSP apps as is.
22:16 <zombie67> 902mb
22:16 <MTughan> Yep.
22:17 <zombie67> then what was it? I didn't create an account for nothgin.
22:17 <MTughan> What was what?
22:17 <zombie67> there was *some*thing I neede the account for
22:18 <MTughan> It could've been for Xcode.
22:18 <zombie67> gah!
22:18 <zombie67> circles
22:18 <PovAddict> lol
22:18 <zombie67> that is what I said
22:18 <MTughan> Ow... "/Users/mtughan/boinc/expat-ppc_64/include/expat.h:17:20: error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory"
22:18 <PovAddict> MTughan: is that when building tsp?
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22:19 <MTughan> I never said it wasn't for Xcode, I just said you could've gotten it from your Tiger DVD>
22:19 <MTughan> Yes, it is.
22:19 <PovAddict> did you manage boincapi already?
22:19 <MTughan> That's just 1 of quite a number of errors.
22:19 <PovAddict> 0.o
22:19 <zombie67> did xcode come with panther?
22:19 <MTughan> I also added -isysroot.
22:19 <MTughan> zombie67: Dunno, Tiger is my first OS X version.
22:19 <zombie67> if not, maybe that is when I created the account.
22:20 <zombie67> MT: is there a problem with what I did?
22:20 <MTughan> No, it's GCC goofing up.
22:20 <MTughan> src/lib/Containers.cpp:4:18: error: vector: No such file or directory
22:20 <MTughan> src/lib/Containers.cpp:5:18: error: string: No such file or directory
22:20 <MTughan> src/lib/Containers.cpp:6:20: error: iostream: No such file or directory
22:21 <zombie67> ack! just realized I never restarted boinc on my quad PPC!
22:22 <zombie67> my processors were getting cold!
22:22 <MTughan> lol
22:22 <Tank_Master> LOL
22:23 <MTughan> Nice... My whole BOINC building environment, with 4 different builds of BOINC and expat each, adds up to 21MB.
22:23 <zombie67> TM: did you confirm which 2.8 PD you have?
22:25 <Tank_Master> not 100%
22:25 <MTughan> The only way I see PPC64 and x86_64 being built at this point is by getting zombie67 to do it. Unless I can get the SDK going and it works.
22:25 <Tank_Master> but I know 100% that its a 2.8
22:25 <Tank_Master> Pd
22:25 <PovAddict> MTughan: don't bother about PPC64 unless it's easy
22:25 <zombie67> TM: zovos 2 is sending out work
22:25 <zombie67> zivis II
22:25 <Tank_Master> bout 80%sure its a 900 series
22:25 <PovAddict> :O
22:25 <PovAddict> WHUR
22:25 <PovAddict> LINK
22:25 <Tank_Master> lol
22:26 <PovAddict> AIS still has no work
22:26 <MTughan> PovAddict: Yeah, it's easy. Build is all ready, just need the right libraries and headers.
22:26 <zombie67> it is still uppercase, at least for the win app
22:26 <PovAddict> MTughan: get x86_64 first
22:26 <PovAddict> zombie67: ah then nevermind
22:26 <Romulus> Title: Test Project (at registro.ibercivis.es)
22:26 <MTughan> Same situation.
22:26 <PovAddict> call me when they have useful work to do
22:26 <zombie67> linux appears to be something different
22:27 <PovAddict> WHAT THE
22:27 <PovAddict> something went wrong there
22:27 <PovAddict> look at server_status
22:27 <MTughan> zombie67: What to build the x86_64 app, or wait on it?
22:27 <PovAddict> s/What/Want/?
22:27 <MTughan> Want*
22:27 <MTughan> Yeah.
22:27 <zombie67> I thought I did?
22:27 <zombie67> POV: what about the SS?
22:27 <MTughan> Naw, you build the BOINC libraries for me.
22:27 <PovAddict> zombie67: server version
22:28 <MTughan> This would be the actual TSP app.
22:28 <zombie67> 14?
22:28 <PovAddict> yeah wtf
22:28 <MTughan> brb
22:28 <zombie67> MT: can we do it later?
22:28 <MTughan> Sure.
22:28 <PovAddict> should be over 12k
22:28 <zombie67> maybe it is getting cut off?
22:28 <PovAddict> probably
22:29 <zombie67> but see the version of the linux app?
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22:32 <harrisonHG> can you help me?
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22:33 <PovAddict> wtf
22:33 <PovAddict> o.0
22:33 <Tank_Master> not if you dont stay
22:33 <Tank_Master> noob
22:34 <zombie67> BTW, I put this channel in my forum sigs
22:35 <Tank_Master> say that
22:35 <Tank_Master> saw*
22:37 <PovAddict> I should make an app to change forum settings on all projects; useful for sigs
22:38 <PovAddict> but I'm not sure if the interface was consistent between server versions
22:38 <PovAddict> and it's hard to change a single pref item without screwing up the rest
22:39 <Tank_Master> true
22:39 <Tank_Master> would be nice though
22:39 <PovAddict> particularly hard is checkboxes
22:39 <zombie67> no kidding!
22:39 <PovAddict> I *must* read the current value and send it back
22:39 <zombie67> I have about 80 projects bookmarked
22:39 <zombie67> it took *for ever* to update them all
22:39 <PovAddict> missing value means uncheck, not "leave untouched"
22:39 <zombie67> I like the way global prefs are passed from project to project....
22:40 <PovAddict> every month or so I check for duplicated hosts
22:40 <PovAddict> so it means opening dozens of tabs for diff projects with host list
22:40 <zombie67> that is another "grab some beer, turn on the tube" activities
22:41 <zombie67> brb
22:41 <PovAddict> that is another "this should be f*cking automated" activity
22:41 * PovAddict checks the log of his trac-wiki-spam-deleter script
22:42 <PovAddict> wow there hasn't been any spam in 10 days
22:42 * Tank_Master is amased
22:42 <PovAddict> Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:29:36 -0200
22:43 <zombie67> there was probably one guy, and he figured out that BOINC was on to him
22:43 <zombie67> time to target another....
22:43 <Tank_Master> :)
22:44 <zombie67> another "this should be f*cking automated" activity
22:44 <zombie67> yep!
22:48 * Tank_Master 's cat is snoring again
22:48 <MTughan> lol
22:49 <zombie67> dog is farting again
22:50 <MTughan> Holy crap... Download of Xcode 3 was terminated at 600MB...
22:50 <PovAddict> wget -c
22:50 <MTughan> What does that do?
22:50 <Tank_Master> doh!
22:50 <PovAddict> continue
22:50 <MTughan> Oops... I already deleted it.
22:50 <zombie67> 2.5 is still going at 330 of 903
22:51 <PovAddict> you deleted it?
22:51 <MTughan> Yes... I was used to the old way. It was an extra 600MB on my disk.
22:51 <PovAddict> :P
22:52 <Romulus> Title: TSP Best Path To Date (at www.myisland.as)
22:52 <MTughan> That looks hugely inefficient.
22:53 <zombie67> still WAY too much east/west
22:53 <PovAddict> inverted logic?
22:53 <PovAddict> looking for longest path? :)
22:53 <zombie67> ding!
22:54 <Tank_Master> looks like it!
22:54 <MTughan> brb, need food.
22:54 <Tank_Master> food is for the weak
22:55 <zombie67> weak *are* food
22:55 <Tank_Master> lol
22:55 <Tank_Master> that to
22:59 <MTughan> Oh, okay. It's not food. It's consumables. :P
22:59 <PovAddict> implements Eatable
22:59 <MTughan> Edible*
22:59 <PovAddict> English--;
22:59 <MTughan> lol
23:00 <MTughan> What's your native tongue?
23:00 <Tank_Master> klutzoeese
23:01 <MTughan> lol
23:02 <Tank_Master> but thats ok, most of the time my keyboard and I dont speek the same language
23:02 <MTughan> Oh, there we go... Now I'm downloading at 458KB/s.
23:02 <PovAddict> LOL
23:02 <MTughan> "speek"? lol
23:07 <zombie67> "Spelling on Usenet is like dancing at the Republican National Convention; badly executed, occasionally funny to watch, but for the most part completely ignored." -- Christian Wagner
23:08 <Tank_Master> ill bbl
23:08 <Tank_Master> gonna go watch TV
23:08 <PovAddict> finding porn on the Internet is like finding hay on a haystack (does the same apply to trolls on Usenet?)
23:08 <zombie67> TM: they're pulling me back in: http://forums.macnn.com/72/team-macnn/355361/enigma-home-now-has-osx-ppc/
23:08 <Romulus> Title: Enigma@home now has OSX/PPC app - MacNN Forums (at forums.macnn.com)
23:09 <Tank_Master> who in where?
23:10 <zombie67> I was thinking about joining a new team
23:10 <Tank_Master> I thought you were going to do that when you got to 10m
23:10 <zombie67> now they give me access to the front page
23:10 <zombie67> yeah
23:10 <zombie67> hmmmmm
23:10 <PovAddict> so what have you posted? :)
23:10 <zombie67> just about everything
23:11 <Tank_Master> sad
23:11 <Romulus> Title: Team MacNN - MacNN Forums (at forums.macnn.com)
23:11 <zombie67> look at the thread starter column
23:11 <PovAddict> I mean on the frontpage
23:11 <zombie67> ha!
23:11 <PovAddict> now that they gave you privileges
23:12 <zombie67> yeah, esp about how predictor is starting back up
23:12 <PovAddict> saw that
23:12 <zombie67> #1 has my same rac
23:13 <zombie67> can't catch him with WCG
23:13 <zombie67> will require RS & QMC
23:13 <Tank_Master> congrats z
23:13 <Tank_Master> anywho, ill bbl
23:13 <zombie67> c ya
23:14 <zombie67> ah, just now got the privileges.
23:15 <zombie67> I will post news items that relate to BOINC/Mac users
23:17 <zombie67> some people are just born lucky: http://boloround2.wordpress.com/2007/11/29/petra-nemcova/
23:19 <rubiks120> how do you figure that shes born lucky?
23:25 <zombie67> born pretty, survived the tsunami
23:25 <rubiks120> oo I didnt get the tsunami thing from that page, but yea she is pretty
23:27 <wraund> im running rosetta, on hte rosetta homepage it claims this japenese guy has over 300,000 proceses going, how is he doin that?
23:27 <Romulus> Title: Petra N - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
23:28 <MTughan> You're probably reading some variation of FLOPS.
23:28 <zombie67> see "The 2004 tsunami"
23:29 <rubiks120> wow
23:29 <zombie67> <wraund>: where on the home page?
23:30 <rubiks120> ok, Ill agree she is very lucky
23:30 <zombie67> Ah!
23:30 <zombie67> wraund: User of the day is on the left
23:30 <zombie67> the stats on the right are for the WHOLE project
23:31 <wraund> zombie67: still confuses me :(
23:32 <wraund> i run one process at a time
23:32 <zombie67> see the "server status" box over the number on the right?
23:32 <MTughan> Yep. Everyone in the project is running 300,000 in all.
23:32 <MTughan> I think that's what he's saying...
23:33 <wraund> MTughan: ah gd gd :P
23:33 <wraund> also, is the server down?
23:33 <wraund> i try to sync and it sets the communication defferation to 1 hour
23:33 <zombie67> many people are having problems, so I think so.
23:33 <wraund> sigh
23:33 <wraund> ah well
23:33 <wraund> soon have it up i hope :)
23:34 <zombie67> look at the top 5 (unlocked) threads
23:34 <wraund> zombie67: any idea when it will be back up?
23:34 <zombie67> heh. nope. I'm just an ignorant user
23:35 <zombie67> ;)
23:35 <wraund> lol :P
23:35 <zombie67> ding! xcode 2.5 in da house
23:35 <wraund> what the heck is a teraflop..
23:36 <Romulus> Title: FLOPS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
23:36 <zombie67> any news on BURP? still have several tasks to return
23:37 <freelarry> think he's trying to build new server
23:37 <wraund> i have one task, but i wanted to upload it right as the server went off, so ive waited all this time :P
23:37 <freelarry> kicked off a donation page for lots of items it appears
23:37 <freelarry> yup got one on this machine too
23:39 <zombie67> i made a donation
23:41 <zombie67> brb
23:43 <wraund> zombie67: how much? :P
23:44 <zombie67> somewhere between $1 and $1000
23:45 <zombie67> or rather, cut that in half and replace the euro symbol
23:46 <wraund> lol
23:46 <zombie67> ?
23:46 <zombie67> there it is!
23:47 <wraund> what is where?
23:47 <zombie67> ? <- the Euro symbol
23:48 * freelarry checks shouldsers - nope head still on even if backwards
23:48 <MTughan> I get a question mark.
23:48 <zombie67> really? looks right on my end
23:48 <rubiks120> question mark here too
23:48 <freelarry> shows question mark or dollar symbol here too
23:48 <zombie67> MT, there are other packages included with 2.5
23:49 <MTughan> What do you mean by packages?
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23:49 <zombie67> WebObjects.mpkg
23:50 <zombie67> XcodeToolsLeopard.mpkg
23:50 <MTughan> Just run Xcode Tools. You can choose to install WebObjects later.
23:50 <zombie67> I already installed xcode
23:50 <zombie67> just wondering if I should install the others?
23:50 <MTughan> They're options from the other package.
23:51 <zombie67> 585gb avail of 698gb total
23:51 <zombie67> is that a yes or no?
23:51 <MTughan> 750GB drive?
23:51 <zombie67> yeah
23:51 <zombie67> got room for 3 more
23:51 <MTughan> Is that where you want to install it to?
23:51 <zombie67> that is my home drive. I was pointing out that space is not an issue
23:52 <zombie67> so do i install them?
23:52 <MTughan> Hehe...
23:52 <MTughan> If you want.
23:52 <zombie67> XcodeToolsLeopard.mpkg = red !
23:53 <zombie67> chud!
23:53 <zombie67> that is what I needed
23:54 <zombie67> do I care about 10.2.8 support?
23:54 <MTughan> Probably not.
23:56 <zombie67> about = Version 2.5