IRC logs of #boinc for Saturday, 2007-12-08

00:00 <Tank_Master> all have to redo that one anyway when they get both projects up n running

00:00 <Tank_Master> so ill leave it till then

00:00 <Tank_Master> same with xtreem labs

00:00 <PovAddict> burp: moved from pre-alpha to alpha months ago (I think boincstats needs to update that too)

00:01 <Tank_Master> Im making that note right now

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00:06 <Tank_Master> anything else?

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00:31 <BadBarbarian> freelarry

00:33 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86023

00:33 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 34░F / 1.1░C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: in / hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6.4km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Breezy. Mostly cloudy. Rain showers and scattered snow showers late in the evening...scattered rain and snow showers after midnight. Little or no new snow accumulation. Snow level 6000 feet. Near steady temperature in the upper 30s. Southwest (2 more messages)

00:33 <BadBarbarian> &more

00:33 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: winds 15 to 25 mph. Gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of precipitation 70 percent.; Saturday - Colder. Mostly cloudy with a 40 percent chance of rain and snow showers. No snow accumulation. Snow level 4500 feet. Highs around 30 on the North Rim to around 49 along the Colorado River. Southwest winds around 15 mph.; Saturday Night - Mostly cloudy. A chance of snow and rain showers in the evening...a (1 more message)

00:33 <BadBarbarian> &more

00:33 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: slight chance of rain and snow showers after midnight. No snow accumulation. Snow level 4000 feet. Lows around 19 on the North Rim to around 38 along the Colorado River. Light winds. Chance of precipitation 40 percent.; Flood Warning for Coconino County in effect until 6:45 AM MST on December 08, 2007;

00:35 <MTughan> &cad

00:35 <Romulus> http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php

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00:57 <Tank_Master> is hashclass now dead as well?

00:57 <Tank_Master> hashclash*

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01:00 <Tank_Master> hydrogen is having issues

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01:00 <Tank_Master> wb PM

01:02 <PriitM_> i don't get it - why do i have UPS, when It doesn't help with power outage.

01:02 <Tank_Master> lol

01:02 <Tank_Master> some modles dont have backup power on all of hte ports

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01:04 <MTughan> Oh, well that's helpful... Here I am, trying to install MinGW on my own, when MacPorts already has it.

01:05 <Tank_Master> LOL

01:05 <Tank_Master> bit redundent?

01:05 <MTughan> Hehe...

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01:30 <Tank_Master> xtreem lab's server is still not up... :'(

02:01 <MTughan> Oh crap, 2AM...

02:01 <Tank_Master> hehe\

02:02 <Tank_Master> 11pm here

02:02 <MTughan> Come on! And I just found prebuilt versions of GCC for Windows and Linux for mac...

02:02 <Tank_Master> hehe

02:02 <Tank_Master> good

02:13 <MTughan> Okay, it installed, but it's going to have to wait for tomorrow. Night.

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03:56 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

03:56 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 34.1░F / 1.2░C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 30.24in / 1023.9hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Occasional rain. Lows in the mid 30s. Light northeast winds. Chance of rain 90 percent.; Saturday - Cloudy. A chance of rain in the morning. Highs in the lower 40s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Saturday (1 more message)

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04:09 <CoderForLife> breakyfast time  brb

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06:51 <CoderForLife> interesting: flying saucers around Saturn http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,316061,00.html

06:51 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1Gez> (at www.foxnews.com)

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07:08 <CoderForLife> the sound of the train blowing it's whistle down in the river valley on a dark, winter morning is quite haunting

07:35 <ChristianB> join #test

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07:51 <CoderForLife> off to the store - bbl

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08:19 <xcamel> 'lo

08:25 <xcamel> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap071208.html

08:25 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2007 December 8 - Star Trails at Dawn (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)

08:27 <ChristianB> nice

08:41 <xcamel> 'lo ChristianB

08:41 <ChristianB> Hi

08:42 <xcamel> ah.. another German

08:42 <xcamel> we have quite a few..

08:42 <ChristianB> I've already seen yoyo, who else?

08:43 <xcamel> ElGono

08:44 <xcamel> and a few others that come and go...

08:47 <ChristianB> If I can get mirc to run on my laptop I'll be around here from time to time too

08:48 <ChristianB> I haven't used IRC for over 3 years now and just have to get into the "feeling" again

08:51 <xcamel> irc - just keeps on ticking...

08:52 <xcamel> from where in germany?

08:53 <ChristianB> a small town near Leipzig

08:54 <xcamel> &weather Leipzig

08:54 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 45┬░F / 7┬░C | Humidity: 71% | Pressure: 29.71in / 1006hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 18mph / 30km/h | Updated: 2:20 PM CET; Chance of Rain. High:42 ░ F. / 6 ░ C.; Chance of Rain. Low:35 ░ F. / 2 ░ C.; Chance of Rain. High:44 ░ F. / 7 ░ C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:39 ░ F. / 4 ░ C.; Partly Cloudy. High:44 ░ F. / 7 ░ C.; Chance of Rain. Low:39 ░ F. / 4 ░ (1 more message)

08:54 <xcamel> &more

08:54 <Romulus> xcamel: C.;

08:54 <xcamel> nice area...

08:54 <ChristianB> very cold and windy atm

08:55 <ChristianB> where do you live?

08:57 <xcamel> upstate NY, USA

08:58 <xcamel> where you live and where I live are very similar in look...

09:00 <ChristianB> I don't know cause I've never been to the USA

09:01 <xcamel> my farm: http://lledgerock.com (webcam stills on the bottom)

09:02 <xcamel> betting I have a bit more snow...

09:03 <ChristianB> oh yeah, we've had one day with snow till now and that's some weeks ago

09:10 <xcamel> how many boinc projects are you running?

09:13 <ChristianB> I'm registered at 6 or 8 at the moment but I'm running only 4 projects on 2 hosts (2 each)

09:14 <ChristianB> http://boincstats.com/search/all_projects.php?cpid=47a32b9750b419ddb3ecb58483c2b862

09:14 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1Gfl> (at boincstats.com)

09:17 <xcamel> I have 5 going - just passed 6 million credits

09:18 <PriitM_> I feel nooby: I got only 36 600 credits :p

09:18 <xcamel> off to a good start..

09:19 <xcamel> http://www.boincstats.com/signature/user_13409.gif

09:19 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/113E> (at www.boincstats.com)

09:19 <xcamel> I've been doing it for a very long time though...

09:21 <PriitM_> I rank 15th in my team with 430 credits(1 PC)

09:21 <PriitM_> 430 average credits*

09:26 <ChristianB> I'm a seti cruncher since 2001 and a boinc cruncher from the beginning

09:27 <ChristianB> but my resources where always limited so I found another way to contribute to the boinc project

09:28 <ChristianB> and used my PHP coding skills

09:29 <ChristianB> btw: do you use BAM for your little farm?

09:31 <xcamel> no - I had real problems with 'bam'

09:31 <xcamel> I run them all the hard way...

09:32 <ChristianB> I noticed some strange bug lately and searching for someone to verify

09:36 <xcamel> bbiab - kernel update

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09:46 <Romulus> WB, Boss

09:46 <xcamel> yea!

09:46 <xcamel> kernel and video drivers... sweet..

09:47 <xcamel> Kernel: Linux 2.6.23.8-34.fc7 CPU[1]: AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 248@2205.144 MHz CPU[2]: AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 248@2205.144 MHz Mem/Use: 2074248 kB/ 461784 kB XInfo:  Screen #0: @ 1600x1200 pixels (411x311 millimeters) /24 bit Uptime: 8 min

09:47 <xcamel> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.23.8-34.fc7 |  Dual AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 248 2205.144 MHz | Bogomips: 8822.89 | Mem: 1617/2026M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 0.10G Free: 0.07G | Procs: 167 | Uptime: 8 mins 18 secs  | Load: 2.14 1.24 0.54  | Vpenis: 89.2 cm | Screen: nVidia Corporation G70 [GeForce 7800 GS] (rev a2) @ 1600x1200 (32 bpp) | eth0: In: 18.57M Out: 0.55M

09:47 <xcamel> Sensors: HDD:

09:47 <xcamel> lol

09:49 <xcamel> off to fee the animals of Oz...

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09:57 <BadBarbarian> &idle freelarry

09:57 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Error: You need to have PySQLite installed to use this plugin.  Download it at <http://pysqlite.org/>

09:58 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86023

09:58 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 28░F / -2.2░C | Humidity: 99% | Pressure: in / hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6.4km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy with a 50 percent chance of rain and snow showers. Snow accumulation up to 1 inch. Snow level 4500 feet. Highs around 30 on the North Rim to around 49 along the Colorado River. Light winds becoming southwest around 15 mph in the (2 more messages)

09:58 <BadBarbarian> &more

09:58 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of snow and rain showers in the evening...a slight chance of rain and snow showers after midnight. Little or no snow accumulation. Snow level 4000 feet. Lows around 19 on the North Rim to around 38 along the Colorado River. South winds around 15 mph in the evening becoming light. Chance of precipitation 40 percent.; Sunday - Mostly cloudy with a 20 (1 more message)

09:58 <BadBarbarian> &more

09:58 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: percent chance of rain and snow showers. No snow accumulation. Snow level 4000 feet. Highs around 30 on the North Rim to around 47 along the Colorado River. Light winds.;

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10:05 <desti> http://www.zareason.com/shop/home.php

10:05 <Romulus> Title: ZaReason, Inc. (at www.zareason.com)

10:29 <CoderForLife> hello

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10:50 * wraund loves BOINC

10:54 <CoderForLife> it's a common malady around here

11:04 <wraund> :)

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11:22 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

11:22 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 36.8░F / 2.7░C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 30.38in / 1028.7hPa | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; This Afternoon - Cloudy. Highs in the lower 40s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Rain likely in the evening...then rain after midnight. Lows in the upper 30s. Temperature rising into the mid 40s after midnight. East winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance (1 more message)

11:23 <CoderForLife> &more

11:23 <Romulus> CoderForLife: of rain 90 percent.; Sunday - Rain likely. Highs in the mid 50s. East winds around 5 mph...becoming south in the afternoon. Chance of rain 70 percent.;

11:30 <MTughan> 'lo CFL

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11:44 <wdsmia> &weather 50265

11:44 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 12░F / -11░C | Humidity: 64% | Pressure: 30.51in / 1033hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h ; Today - Cloudy. A slight chance of snow in the morning...then snow and sleet likely in the afternoon. Little or no snow and sleet accumulation. High 15 to 20. Northeast wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 70 percent.; Tonight - Snow and sleet in the (2 more messages)

11:44 <wdsmia> &more

11:44 <Romulus> wdsmia: evening...then light snow likely and patchy freezing drizzle after midnight. Snow and sleet accumulation of 1 to 2 inches. Low around 15. Northeast wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 80 percent.; Sunday - Cloudy. Sleet with snow likely in the morning...then a chance of snow in the afternoon. Snow and sleet accumulation of 1 to 2 inches. Total snow accumulation 2 to 4 inches. High 15 to 20. (1 more message)

11:44 <wdsmia> &more

11:44 <Romulus> wdsmia: North wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 80 percent.;

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11:51 <MTughan> Holy crap! I just got 50 SIMAP tasks, all due in 5 days...

11:51 <Tank_Master> sweet

11:51 <Tank_Master> have fun!

11:51 <MTughan> lol

11:51 <MTughan> &math convert 1h45m to seconds

11:51 <Romulus> MTughan: Error: 1h45m is not a valid unit.

11:51 <wraund> what URL do i put into 'attach to account manager', when i have got a registered BAM thingy

11:52 <MTughan> &math convert 105 minutes to seconds

11:52 <Romulus> MTughan: 6300

11:52 <MTughan> &math calc 6300 * 25

11:52 <Romulus> MTughan: 157500

11:52 <MTughan> &math convert 157500 seconds to hours

11:52 <Romulus> MTughan: 43.75

11:52 <MTughan> Oh, not too bad. Less than two days of solid work.

11:52 <wraund> anyone?

11:53 <wraund> what url do i put into account manager for BAM

11:53 <MTughan> Sorry, I don't use BAM.

11:53 <wraund> :(

11:53 <MTughan> Tank_Master, wdsmia?

11:53 <Tank_Master> ?

11:53 <Tank_Master> oh

11:53 <Tank_Master> bam.boincstats.com

11:54 <Tank_Master> if your new to BAM!, be worned that it may detach some projects at first

11:55 <Tank_Master> just go back into your account and reattach ot

11:55 <Tank_Master> ot have them selectd for new hosts to begin with

11:58 <Tank_Master> you get it to work?

11:58 <wraund> nearly

11:58 <wraund> sec..

11:59 <Tank_Master> user name is your nick, not the e-mail

11:59 <wraund> Tank_Master: i know, and ty mate, it worked :)

11:59 <Tank_Master> :P

12:01 <MTughan> Interesting... UserFriendly.org's LOTD (Link of the Day): http://www.completeevil.com/geek.html

12:01 <Romulus> Title: A Girl's Guide to Geek Guys (at www.completeevil.com)

12:04 <MTughan> &math convert [math calc [math convert 4 hours to seconds] * 19] seconds to days

12:04 <Romulus> MTughan: 3.16666666667

12:04 <MTughan> Ah, still not too bad... Length of time for 19 RCN WUs.

12:04 <MTughan> And that's with only a single core, I have a dual-core.

12:04 <Tank_Master> :)

12:05 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

12:05 <Tank_Master> &more

12:05 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.

12:05 <Tank_Master> &more

12:05 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.

12:05 <MTughan> They're due on the 18th, so I'll be in plenty of time.

12:05 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 40.6░F / 4.8░C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 30.30in / 1026.0hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - A slight chance of showers early otherwise decreasing clouds. Patchy fog in the morning. Highs 40 to 45. Northeast wind 5 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Colder. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows 25 to 30. East wind 5 to 10 mph.; Sunday - (1 more message)

12:05 <Tank_Master> &more

12:05 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Increasing clouds. Patchy fog in the morning. A chance of rain and snow in the afternoon. Snow level 500 to 1000 feet. Highs 35 to 40. Light wind.;

12:05 <Tank_Master> man that took forever

12:05 <MTughan> And then it's just some hour long TSPs.

12:05 <MTughan> Finished off all 10 of the 35 hour E@H WUs. :P

12:06 <Tank_Master> yeah, those are long...

12:06 <MTughan> In reality, they actually only took 15h. :P

12:06 <Tank_Master> QMC has some even longer ones

12:06 <Tank_Master> some take a few days to compleat

12:06 <MTughan> Estimated was 35 hour, my comp did them in 15.

12:06 <MTughan> Well, that's something against QMC for me then.

12:06 <Tank_Master> hehe

12:07 <Tank_Master> I take it your not into cliamte either?

12:07 <MTughan> I'm not running climateprediction, if that's what you're asking.

12:09 <MTughan> Nice... Preconfigured Apache, PHP, MySQL combo as a portable app... http://portableapps.com/apps/development/xampp

12:09 <Romulus> Title: XAMPP | PortableApps.com - Portable software for USB drives (at portableapps.com)

12:09 <MTughan> Just what I've been looking for, in fact.

12:13 <wraund> whey BAM is all set up :)

12:13 <Tank_Master> sweet

12:13 <Tank_Master> its defently a handy tool if you have lots a cops

12:15 <MTughan> Okay, I must be off. My family's visiting Niagara Falls for the weekend.

12:15 <MTughan> To tell the truth, I'm not really interested. >_>

12:16 <Tank_Master> lol

12:16 <Tank_Master> hf!

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12:27 <xcamel> re-hi

12:27 <Tank_Master> yo

12:28 <CoderForLife> hey

12:30 <xcamel> first time above freezing in over a week...

12:31 <xcamel> and I'm still cold..

12:32 <Tank_Master> lol

12:32 <Tank_Master> we got down to 32 last night

12:32 <Tank_Master> first time in a week

12:33 <Tank_Master> last moinday we were almost 65

12:46 <xcamel> must have been nice...

12:47 <Tank_Master> well, except for the 60mph winds and 6" of rain, yeah...

12:48 <PovAddict> :|

12:48 <PovAddict> &math convert 6 inches cm

12:48 <Romulus> PovAddict: 15.24

12:48 <Tank_Master> lots

12:49 <Tank_Master> parts of the coast got over 33cm (12") of rain in one day

12:49 <PovAddict> 0.o

12:50 <PovAddict> in some parts of the country here you dont get that in a year

12:50 <Tank_Master> happens with reminants of 3 typhoons hit you in a day and a half...

12:51 <Tank_Master> what we got in 2 days was close to our normal for the month

12:52 <Tank_Master> here in the vally, we tipicaly get 3' (1m) a year

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12:53 <Tank_Master> parts of the coast get over 20feet of rain a year

12:54 <Tank_Master> &mat convert 20 feet meter

12:54 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: You need to have PySQLite installed to use this plugin.  Download it at <http://pysqlite.org/>

12:54 <Tank_Master> &mat convert 20 feet m

12:54 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: You need to have PySQLite installed to use this plugin.  Download it at <http://pysqlite.org/>

12:54 <Tank_Master> &math convert 20 feet m

12:54 <Romulus> Tank_Master: 6.096

12:56 <PovAddict> o.O

12:57 <Tank_Master> yeah, its a rainforest

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12:59 <xcamel> all the snow mwlted in my electronic rain gage... 66" of rain so far today... lol

13:00 <xcamel> er melted even...

13:00 <Tank_Master> 66

13:00 <Tank_Master> ?

13:00 <xcamel> probably have to go get feed too...

13:00 <xcamel> thrillsville

13:01 <Tank_Master> thats more than kawaii gets in a day

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13:08 <CoderForLife> 66 inches of rain, xcamel?

13:08 <PovAddict> &math convert 66 in mm

13:08 <Romulus> PovAddict: 1676.4

13:08 <PovAddict> srsly, some parts of the country get 300mm a year...

13:08 <PovAddict> &math convert 300 mm in

13:08 <Romulus> PovAddict: 11.811023622

13:09 <CoderForLife> the part near the rain forest?

13:10 <xcamel> it's just the way the sensor works...

13:13 <xcamel> got all the way up to 38, now dropped back one degree..

13:21 <CoderForLife> balmy

13:22 <xcamel> now on to phase III of the 'mighty morphin power cold'

13:22 <CoderForLife> you make it sound better than I bet it is

13:23 <CoderForLife> mine don't much mess around with the nose, but plunge straight down to rattle in my chest for weeks

13:23 <xcamel> got my appitite back last night - aet like a pig...

13:24 <xcamel> er... ate even

13:24 <CoderForLife> that'll help

13:25 <CoderForLife> I guess I'll walk out to the mailbox and see what Christmas cheer they have brought me

13:25 <CoderForLife> bbiab

13:38 <CoderForLife> b

13:39 <CoderForLife> mail hadn't come yet

13:49 * CoderForLife tries his first Coca-Cola Vanilla Zero

13:49 <PovAddict> Coca-Cola Vanilla? o.0

13:50 <CoderForLife> I guess I'm not a big vanilla fan

13:51 <CoderForLife> here's what the can looks like http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/img_0895.jpg

13:51 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1Gho> (at psychohistory.files.wordpress.com)

13:59 <freelarry> humm is it normal for .x.28 to leave boinc running with its client when exiting the manager (ie shutdown)?

14:00 <PovAddict> did you install in single user mode?

14:02 <freelarry> yes

14:03 <freelarry> single user/share

14:03 <BadBarbarian> howdy larry

14:03 <freelarry> think center option

14:03 <BadBarbarian> any mail

14:03 <freelarry> howdy BadBarbarian - trucks finally rolling good now so hope i get it today

14:03 <BadBarbarian> or did it drown lol

14:03 <freelarry> stranded at rest stop i figure

14:04 <freelarry> got 4 days worth of mail from place where flooding occured in plant last night

14:04 <freelarry> took a long time to sort it

14:05 <freelarry> figure we might get fully cought up by january

14:06 <BadBarbarian> christmas will be late out there

14:06 <freelarry> PovAddict two projects i note it with are sudoko and ufluid

14:07 <ChristianB> Hi all

14:07 <freelarry> nope thats on priority track to get caught up - thinking more about customers who procastinating with normal mail due to hazards of getting things in mail

14:08 <freelarry> morn ChristianB

14:08 <ChristianB> Is someone using the latest Ubuntu distro?

14:08 <freelarry> dont know what PovAddict has installed on my ubantu machine

14:09 <freelarry> but it works for me

14:10 <ChristianB> I need a init script to let my boinc client run at boot time

14:10 <PovAddict> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/AutoStart

14:10 <Romulus> Title: AutoStart - BOINC - Trac (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

14:10 <ChristianB> the ones i tried hadn't worked

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14:11 <ChristianB> I've already tried severall of this Nicolas

14:11 <PovAddict> well then I dunno

14:12 <PovAddict> I'm on a Windows machine with a 38-day uptime :) if I had linux the uptime would be even higher so I wouldn't mind starting it manually

14:14 <ChristianB> I found an interesting script from setiusa (or boincuk, I can't remember) but this doesn't work for me

14:16 <ChristianB> It seems that I have to digg into the mistery how to code init scripts for Ubuntu

14:58 <CoderForLife> I'm going to drop off for awhile

14:58 <CoderForLife> laterzzz

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15:30 <ChristianB> back again

16:05 <xcamel> back again too

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16:16 <wraund> i have BAM and boinc on another machine working fine, i attached my laptop to BAM, it just appears to display rosetta (the only project it was on) and not attaching to SETI and Einstein which are set on BAM

16:17 <wraund> whats going on?

16:17 <PovAddict> may take 24 hours to update unless you force an update manually from the client

16:17 <PovAddict> tools | sync with account manager

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16:17 <wraund> yeh did that

16:17 <wraund> still hasnt attached to SETI or einstein

16:18 <PovAddict> did you attach them to your host from BAM?

16:18 <PovAddict> on the host list, set the checkbox for those projects?

16:18 <wraund> i was on my client on my laptop, did attach to account manager

16:18 <wraund> bam.boinc etc

16:18 <wraund> user name and pass were ok

16:19 <wraund> then i did sync with BAM

16:19 <wraund> and SETI and Einstein arent appearing

16:19 <PovAddict> http://boincstats.com/bam/host_list.php click on your host on the list

16:19 <Romulus> Title: BOINCstats/BAM! | Host list (at boincstats.com)

16:21 <wraund> ohhh....

16:21 <wraund> i see

16:21 <wraund> near the bottom

16:21 <wraund> i thought it did it automatically :(

16:23 <xcamel> I still won't use bam after it deleted half my projects over 12 machines...

16:23 <xcamel> screw them..

16:23 <wraund> lol

16:23 <wraund> seems to be working for me so far

16:23 <xcamel> I just don't trust it.

16:23 <wdsmia_> It more trouble than its worth imo

16:24 <wraund> rly?

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16:25 <wraund> i think ive got the hang of it :)

16:25 <wraund> does anyone know where to contribute programming or beta testing to boinc?

16:25 <wraund> i can do both

16:26 <ChristianB> PovAddict: I got an init script for my Ubuntu host and it's now working like a charm :)

16:26 <wraund> and *helped the berkeley open infrastructure ofetworked Computers* would look great on my CV

16:28 <ChristianB> wraund: What programming skills do you have?

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16:57 <ChristianB> Hi yoyo

16:57 <yoyo[RKN]> hi

16:58 <ChristianB> do you remember the boinc podcast?

16:58 <yoyo[RKN]> yeah

16:59 <ChristianB> are you interested in some publicity for your project?

16:59 <yoyo[RKN]> willkommen hier

16:59 <yoyo[RKN]> kommt von dir nicht auch die Debian Boinc VM?

17:00 <ChristianB> ja

17:00 <yoyo[RKN]> gro▀es Danke dafŘr, damit hab ich angefangen

17:00 <ChristianB> Nichts zu danken, habe ich gerne gemacht

17:01 <ChristianB> War auch f├╝r mich eine Art die Funktionsweise von BOINC und dem Server kennen zu lernen

17:01 <yoyo[RKN]> das wollte ich eigentlich auch nur lernen und jetzt ist ein eigenes Projekt draus geworden

17:01 <ChristianB> Ich bin gerade am ├╝berlegen dem podcast wieder etwas laben einzuhauchen

17:01 <ChristianB> leben

17:02 <yoyo[RKN]> wieviel downloads gab es denn da?

17:02 <ChristianB> habe nach langer Zeit mal wieder eine ermunternde email von einem boinc-einsteiger bekommen

17:02 <ChristianB> mal schauen die aktuellen zahlen habe ich nicht im Kopf

17:03 <yoyo[RKN]> was ich so mitbekommen habe wurde der auch gern geh÷rt

17:04 <ChristianB> Ich habe im Schnitt noch immer ca. 30 Besucher pro Woche auf der Seite

17:04 <yoyo[RKN]> wir haben alle deine Podcasts bei den Projekten verlinkt bei uns im wiki

17:04 <ChristianB> und das obwohl schon lange keien neue Folge mehr gelaufen ist

17:05 <ChristianB> das kommen auch die meisten Leute her

17:05 <yoyo[RKN]> sch÷n, sind ja auch gute einleitungen in die Projekte

17:07 <ChristianB> Die allererste Folge hat einen DL von 1184, die restlichen Folgen schwanken zwischen 300 und 600

17:08 <ChristianB> die Seti@home folge hat auch 1100 downloads

17:09 <yoyo[RKN]> willste mal wieder einen podcast machen?

17:10 <ChristianB> bin noch am ├╝berlegen, aber ich glaube ich werde ein paar der Vorschl├Ąge umsetzen die ich letzte Woche per mail bekommen habe

17:10 <ChristianB> und dann w├Ąre nat├╝rlich ein Interview als Fortsetzung nicht schlecht

17:11 <ChristianB> das mit Spinhenge hat eigentlich ganz gut geklappt

17:11 * xcamel turns on babelfish auto translation tool...

17:11 <yoyo[RKN]> kannst gern mit unserem Vereinsvorsitzendem ein Interview machen

17:11 <ChristianB> sorry xcamel

17:11 <xcamel> my deutsch is pretty rusty...

17:12 <xcamel> er rusted shut even.

17:12 <ChristianB> we're talking about a german boinc podcast that I run

17:12 <xcamel> cool idea

17:12 <xcamel> I kinda had that figured out..

17:13 <xcamel> romy will do some translattion, albiet slowly...

17:13 <ChristianB> I started in Feb 2006 but the last espisode was in April this year

17:14 <ChristianB> how does he recognise what to translate?

17:14 <PovAddict> &babelfish

17:14 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: You need to have PySQLite installed to use this plugin.  Download it at <http://pysqlite.org/>

17:15 <xcamel> &Babelfish translate de to en bin noch am ├╝berlegen, aber ich glaube ich werde ein paar der Vorschl├Ąge umsetzen die ich letzte Woche per mail bekommen habe

17:15 <Romulus> xcamel: still are at the ├╝berlegen, but I believe I the few Vorschl├Ąge will convert which I last week by mail got

17:16 <PovAddict> &help babelfish

17:16 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: There is no command "babelfish".

17:16 <ChristianB> holy crap

17:16 <PovAddict> &help Babelfish

17:16 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: There is no command "babelfish".

17:16 <xcamel> it's close enough...

17:16 <PovAddict> maybe set to admin-only?

17:16 <xcamel> some words it just can't figure out because of context

17:16 <PovAddict> oh, it's called 'translate'... babelfish is the module

17:17 <ChristianB> that's not even close what I meant

17:17 <xcamel> Big B there PoV

17:17 <PovAddict> &Babelfish

17:17 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: You need to have PySQLite installed to use this plugin.  Download it at <http://pysqlite.org/>

17:17 <xcamel> &help translate

17:17 <Romulus> xcamel: (translate <from-language> [to] <to-language> <text>) -- Returns <text> translated from <from-language> into <to-language>. Beware that translating to or from languages that use multi-byte characters may result in some very odd results.

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17:18 <ChristianB> yoyo[RKN]: Ich werde mal ├╝ber die Feiertage etwas recherchieren und hoffentlich Zeit f├╝r eine Neue Folge finden.

17:18 <yoyo[RKN]> sch÷n

17:18 <ChristianB> try this one ^

17:19 <PovAddict> &translate de en Ich werde mal ├╝ber die Feiertage etwas recherchieren und hoffentlich Zeit f├╝r eine Neue Folge finden.

17:19 <Romulus> PovAddict: I will somewhat investigate times more ├╝ber the holidays and hopefully to time f├╝r a new consequence will find.

17:19 <yoyo[RKN]> think babelfish has problems with german characters

17:19 <PovAddict> &translate de en [translate en de [translate de en Ich werde mal ├╝ber die Feiertage etwas recherchieren und hoffentlich Zeit f├╝r eine Neue Folge finden. ] ] ]

17:19 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: Spurious "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.

17:19 <PovAddict> &translate de en [translate en de [translate de en Ich werde mal ├╝ber die Feiertage etwas recherchieren und hoffentlich Zeit f├╝r eine Neue Folge finden. ] ]

17:19 <Romulus> PovAddict: I investigate few times more more ├╝ber the holidays and time f├╝r hopeful determine, which finds a new consequence.

17:20 <PovAddict> &babelize de en Ich werde mal ├╝ber die Feiertage etwas recherchieren und hoffentlich Zeit f├╝r eine Neue Folge finden.

17:20 <PovAddict> this probably won't make any sense :)

17:20 <Romulus> PovAddict: I investigate little marking more more more ├╝ber the holidays and the hopeful time f├╝r determine, which finds a new consequence.

17:20 <ChristianB> It should read: I'll investigate something during the holidays and hopefully find some time for a new episode

17:20 <PovAddict> &babelize es en [translate en es I'll investigate something during the holidays and hopefully find some time for a new episode]

17:20 <Romulus> PovAddict: Esperanzadamente of the will I investigate something during the holidays and that I will find certain short circuit whereas for a new episode

17:21 <PovAddict> lol

17:23 <yoyo[RKN]> ChristianB : you were also at the Einstein meeting in Potsdam?

17:23 <ChristianB> yes

17:23 <ChristianB> we met there

17:23 <yoyo[RKN]> jup

17:24 <ChristianB> I tried to visit Bruce in Hanover after that but I had no luck, He didn't answer my emails.

17:26 <yoyo[RKN]> since when are you here in this chat?

17:26 <PovAddict> since yesterday or today

17:26 <ChristianB> today

17:27 <ChristianB> I just recently installed ubuntu and now I'm exploring the different programs that are installed by default

17:28 <yoyo[RKN]> I think the link to this channel is difficult to find

17:28 <ChristianB> yeah, I searched my boin_dev archive and found a mail that referenced to this channel

17:29 <xcamel> geez PoV... you have a "bot fetish" or something?

17:29 <ChristianB> it was in boinc_projects in a mail from Nicolas dated 11/29/2006

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17:30 <yoyo[RKN]> hi Markus

17:31 <mweltin> hi yoyo

17:37 <wraund> ChristianB: sorry i was afk

17:37 <wraund> ChristianB: i know a good bit of python, some pythongtk, make packages for ubuntu (havent in a while though), and i easily modify .xml files, and most C++ files

17:37 <wraund> have had to to help with my mates game

17:37 <Tank_Master> mw!

17:37 <wraund> http://talesofnamar.com

17:37 <Romulus> Title: Tales Of Namar ~ Free MMORPG ~ Official Community Website (at talesofnamar.com)

17:38 <Tank_Master> yo yoyo

17:38 <yoyo[RKN]> moin Tank_Master

17:38 <Tank_Master> morning?

17:38 <Tank_Master> its 2:40 pm :P

17:38 <mweltin> Tank_Master

17:38 <yoyo[RKN]> on your side

17:38 <yoyo[RKN]> hmm

17:38 <mweltin> guess what?

17:39 <yoyo[RKN]> 11:40pm here

17:39 <wraund> 10:40 m'here

17:39 <xcamel> PoV - the ' in I'll was your problem - you would need to phrase it as 'I will'

17:40 <xcamel> &babelize en es I will investigate something during the holidays and hopefully find some time for a new episode

17:41 <Romulus> xcamel: Episodio del nuevo de pßrrafos un del que de los mientras del cortocircuito del cierto del encontrarÚ del eso de los dÝas de fiesta y del durante del algo del investigo de Esperanzadamente de la voluntad

17:41 <PovAddict> LOL

17:41 <xcamel> that should be pretty close..

17:41 <PovAddict> it's as far as it can be

17:41 <xcamel> probably too wordy

17:41 <xcamel> &babelize en de I will investigate something during the holidays and hopefully find some time for a new episode

17:41 <PovAddict> what babelize does is convert it to spanish, and back to english, and back to spanish, etc. repeatedly

17:41 <Romulus> xcamel: Couldn't talk to server: [Errno socket error] timed out

17:41 <ChristianB> wraund: Here are some sites you should read if you want to contribute to boinc:

17:41 <ChristianB> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/SoftwareDevelopment

17:41 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1GjT> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

17:42 <PovAddict> the whole point is ending up with something ridiculous :P

17:42 <ChristianB> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/DevProjects

17:42 <Romulus> Title: DevProjects - BOINC - Trac (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

17:42 <ChristianB> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/email_lists.php

17:42 <Romulus> Title: Email lists (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

17:42 <PovAddict> &translate es en [babelize en es I will investigate something during the holidays and hopefully find some time for a new episode]

17:42 <xcamel> we have all that ChristianB

17:42 <Romulus> PovAddict: Episode of the new one of paragraphs of which of while of the short circuit of the certain one of I will find of the that of the holidays and of during of the something of I investigate of Esperanzadamente of the will

17:42 <wraund> ChristianB: ty

17:42 <PovAddict> even less sense than rommie's markov chains

17:42 <mweltin> So yesterday I go diving with governor.

17:43 <xcamel> driving and diving is hard to do...

17:43 <mweltin> and after ward he invites me, and everyone on the boat to dinner at the governor's mansion.

17:43 <PovAddict> :o

17:43 <mweltin> it was very cool

17:44 <xcamel> sounds like it..

17:44 <mweltin> he gave us a tour of the house

17:44 <mweltin> singed copies of a American Samoa history book,

17:44 <mweltin> let us take picturs with him.

17:44 <Tank_Master> :)

17:44 <mweltin> the first lady was very chatty and a lot of fun at dinner.

17:45 <mweltin> it a good time.

17:47 <xcamel> something to remember...

17:47 <mweltin> yeah

17:47 <mweltin> life is funny

17:48 <xcamel> these folks:

17:48 <xcamel> http://americansamoa.gov/gov_office/tulafono_family_captioned.jpg

17:48 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1GjX> (at americansamoa.gov)

17:48 <mweltin> yup

17:48 <xcamel> bet you're chasing the daughter, eh?

17:48 <mweltin> his daughers were not there.

17:48 <xcamel> sucks-to-be-you...

17:48 <xcamel> :-)

17:48 <mweltin> they are both in the army

17:49 <mweltin> one is a CB

17:49 <mweltin> and I forget what the other one does.

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17:49 <Tank_Master> blows stuff up

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17:49 <frost[RKN]> hi

17:49 <xcamel> the one is kinda cute..

17:50 <mweltin> One of  the poiice chiefs was there too.

17:55 <ChristianB> what's a CB?

17:55 <mweltin> some kind of construction mos

17:56 <ChristianB> some kind of sapper?

17:56 <mweltin> they learn mechanical engineering, carpentry, mansonry, electrical

17:56 <wraund> dang running Einstein on my 600mhz laptop with 256mb ram is fun

17:56 <mweltin> I dont' know mos stands for but it your primary job in the military.

17:56 <Soul_keeper> "i have no special talents, i am only passionately curious" --albert einstein

17:57 <wraund> 11 mins CPU time its at 1.420*

17:57 <wraund> 1.420%

17:57 <ChristianB> yeah that looks like a sapper

17:58 <mweltin> so whats all this about a weak auth key?

17:58 <wraund> meh if i leave it on all night it should be done by morning :)

17:59 <PovAddict> mweltin: lets you attach computers and get work

17:59 <PovAddict> but if somebody sees the key the computer is attached with, he can't log into your account with it

18:00 <ChristianB> but you can't change your passwort if you use this weak auth key, that's not so good

18:00 <mweltin> I'm just getting to that part in the log file

18:01 <ChristianB> This weak auth key should be an extra key stored into the DB or should be hashed from the real auth key only

18:02 <xcamel> ChristianB, a "CB" is really the SeaBees - Navy construction and demolition, IIRC.

18:02 <mweltin> so you obviously have to download the client still, which is my biggest problem to get people to do.  But after they do that how do they use the key?

18:02 <mweltin> thansk ChristianB

18:03 <PovAddict> mweltin: using the weak account key is harder than attaching with mail&pw

18:03 <PovAddict> making it easier isn't the point

18:03 <mweltin> I was in teh middle of the table and the first lady and governor were at either end.  I missed alot of both convresations.

18:04 <mweltin> I guess I'm missing the point

18:05 <mweltin> will it make campus wide boinc projects easier to manage?

18:05 <ChristianB> PovAddict: Have you thought about a proposal for boinc_dev how to change the weak_auth_key mechanism, so that it works even when I change my password?

18:05 <ChristianB> at the current stage: no!

18:05 <PovAddict> ChristianB: the feature was added yesterday with absolutely no prior discussion

18:05 <ChristianB> I know

18:06 <ChristianB> I'll write a proposal about my thoughts and a possible solution later this day and post it to boinc_dev in order to start a discussion afterwards

18:07 <PovAddict> I wish discussions were done before the features get implemented...

18:07 <ChristianB> me 2

18:08 <ChristianB> I also have a proposal in my head about the boinc wide teams problem but I have to rethink this

18:09 <ChristianB> There has to be some challenge/response before teams get created at new projects, some kind of reservation of team names

18:10 <ChristianB> the teams are not actually there but you can't use the team name if you're not the founder

18:10 <PovAddict> that's a feature that needed *months* of discussion before launching

18:11 <ChristianB> I'll have to bring this into some proper shape but I think this should work (at least on the paper)

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18:40 <mweltin> so anyone here good with sax parsers?

18:43 <xcamel> sex partners?

18:44 <xcamel> oh..

18:44 <mweltin> I would know better than to ask this room about that.

18:44 <xcamel> hehehe...

18:44 <xcamel> j/k

18:46 <mweltin> I have to make all these global variables for my sax parser functions to fill

18:46 <mweltin> and I don't like global variables

18:46 <PovAddict> global? eww

18:46 <xcamel> ditto

18:46 <PovAddict> wrap them in a structure

18:46 <mweltin> as my choice for varibaes names sucks.

18:46 <PovAddict> what sax parser are you using?

18:46 <mweltin> xpat

18:47 <PovAddict> hmm is that really sax?

18:47 <mweltin> I didn't have any luck wrapping expat in a c++ wrapper, but the sturcture idea is working so well for the GA

18:47 <PovAddict> I know the way it works is similar

18:47 <mweltin> I need to use a list or somehting

18:47 <mweltin> its sax

18:47 <PovAddict> but I'm not sure if it's a sax-compatible api

18:48 <PovAddict> I see all handlers get a void* data passed

18:48 <PovAddict> that's where you pass around your struct

18:51 <mweltin> ahhh

18:51 <mweltin> that is what that is for.

18:51 <PovAddict> you need to cast the void* into a WhateverStructure*, then you can access its stuff

18:51 <mweltin> who RULES

18:51 <mweltin> PovAddict does

18:52 <PovAddict> google goes

18:52 <PovAddict> does*

18:52 <PovAddict> http://www.xml.com/pub/a/1999/09/expat/index.html?page=2

18:52 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1Gjo> (at www.xml.com)

18:52 <PovAddict> see the example under "Working with Expat"

18:52 <mweltin> hahhaahhaha

18:53 <mweltin> I gave up on that site a while ago because I couldn't find anythnig.  Mostly because I didn't have the right vocabulary to nail down what I was looking for.

18:58 <mweltin> gotta switch boxes

18:58 <mweltin> going to use a mac

18:58 <mweltin> wish me luck

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18:59 <xcamel> maybe time to go watch a movie or something

19:00 <xcamel> might bbl...

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19:12 <PovAddict> http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar:8080/boinc-stuff/projects

19:12 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1GdT> (at stuff.povaddict.com.ar:8080)

19:12 <PovAddict> order is random tho

19:22 <Soul_keeper> hey

19:22 <Soul_keeper> any of you people vote ?

19:23 <Soul_keeper> i got a question about party affiliation and primary ballets

19:23 <Soul_keeper> if i'm registered libertarian but want to vote for a candidate in the republican primaries would i have to reregister as a republican

19:23 <Soul_keeper> ?

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19:49 <mweltin> thanks PovAddict

19:50 <mweltin> I'm going to check this out in gdb to make sure it's working but that about solved my issue.

19:51 <mweltin> back to work

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21:38 <The_XMas_Turkey> dont like it

21:54 <xcamel> back-ish

22:07 <xcamel> or not

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22:39 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: ping

22:39 <wdsmia> &ding

22:39 <Romulus> DONG!

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22:43 <PovAddict> http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar:8080/boinc-stuff/projects

22:43 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1GdT> (at stuff.povaddict.com.ar:8080)

22:43 <PovAddict> add some projects :)

22:45 <BadBarbarian_Hom> Evening POV

22:47 <PovAddict> I just got LHC work!

22:48 <BadBarbarian_Hom> woohoo

22:50 <BadBarbarian_Hom> &weather 86023

22:50 <Romulus> BadBarbarian_Hom: Temperature: 27░F / -2.8░C | Humidity: 98% | Pressure: in / hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 5mph / 8.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a 50 percent chance of snow and rain showers. Additional snow accumulation around 1 inch. Snow level 4000 feet. Lows around 21 on the North Rim to around 36 along the Colorado River. South winds around 15 mph in the evening (2 more messages)

22:50 <BadBarbarian_Hom> &more

22:50 <Romulus> BadBarbarian_Hom: becoming light.; Sunday - Mostly cloudy with a 30 percent chance of snow and rain showers. No snow accumulation. Snow level 4000 feet. Highs around 30 on the North Rim to around 47 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Sunday Night - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of rain and snow showers in the evening...a chance of snow and rain showers after midnight. No snow accumulation. Snow level (1 more message)

22:50 <BadBarbarian_Hom> &more

22:50 <Romulus> BadBarbarian_Hom: 4500 feet. Lows around 21 on the North Rim to around 36 along the Colorado River. Light winds. Chance of precipitation 30 percent.;

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23:01 <BadBarbarian_Hom> hey zombie wasup

23:01 <zombie67> yo!

23:01 <zombie67> Broke 9M today!

23:01 <BadBarbarian_Hom> got this old 478 pin non hyperthread 2.7 running lol

23:02 <PovAddict> zombie67: http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar:8080/boinc-stuff/projects

23:02 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1GdT> (at stuff.povaddict.com.ar:8080)

23:02 <BadBarbarian_Hom> cool

23:02 <BadBarbarian_Hom> i broke 6000 with the laptop

23:02 <zombie67> POV, very similar to what is on my page.

23:03 <BadBarbarian_Hom> wow 9 mil thats alot of crunching

23:03 <zombie67> mine is in table form

23:03 <PovAddict> zombie67: click add project

23:03 <zombie67> BB, not bad!

23:03 <zombie67> Pov!  Very slick!

23:04 <BadBarbarian_Hom> why did'nt you put the x64 in seti

23:04 <zombie67> any to tell if a project has a 64 app which is really just a 32 app sent to 64?

23:04 <BadBarbarian_Hom> windows that is lol

23:04 <PovAddict> zombie67: I'm getting LHC work

23:05 <zombie67> me too

23:05 <PovAddict> anyway I'm using this http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/get_project_config.php

23:05 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/:23> (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)

23:05 <BadBarbarian_Hom> when i install the x64 boinc it gos to the 64bit folder lol

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23:06 <zombie67> LHC is slowly doling out the work

23:06 <PovAddict> zombie67: don't go add 'em all, I want to let other people play with it :)

23:06 <zombie67> k

23:07 <zombie67> I just picked a few with lots of apps

23:07 <BadBarbarian_Hom> they cant run the lhc full out in winter time france needs to heat homes lol

23:08 <zombie67> france is mostly nuclear.  no guilt crunching!

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23:08 <BadBarbarian_Hom> but the power has to come from some where lol

23:09 <zombie67> sure, but doesn't contribute to global warming

23:09 <BadBarbarian_Hom> lhc uses a huge amount

23:09 <BadBarbarian_Hom> true

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23:09 <PovAddict> but produces nuclear waste, I think it's worse

23:10 <BadBarbarian_Hom> living in arizonea we get ours from hover dam

23:10 <zombie67> naw, it can be safely dealt with

23:10 <zombie67> bububut you're killllling fish!!!!

23:10 <zombie67> bah

23:10 <BadBarbarian_Hom> better than tons of soot in the air

23:10 <Tidus> i think i found my new favorite distro

23:10 <zombie67> ?

23:11 <Tidus> runnin openSuSE 10.3 at the moment and i like it

23:11 <zombie67> suse is okay

23:11 <zombie67> i go back and forth, suse ubuntu

23:11 <Tidus> it was my distro of choice about 4 years ago

23:11 <Tidus> back in the days of 9.1 and 9.2

23:11 <zombie67> I find the management tools in suse to be confusing

23:11 <Tidus> yast in 10.3 has been completely reworked.

23:12 <BadBarbarian_Hom> got to get some rest you'all have a great evening

23:12 <zombie67> too many

23:12 <zombie67> cya bb

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