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00:11 <zombie67> hi
00:12 <zombie67> pov is asleep now, I think
00:12 <mweltin> I'm just stopping in to say hi.
00:12 <mweltin> did you see I got to hvae dinner with the governor of American Samoa?
00:12 <zombie67> very impressive!
00:12 <zombie67> yep, I say
00:12 <zombie67> saw
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00:13 <zombie67> I subscribe to your news RSS
00:13 <mweltin> yeah, I went out with him and the chief of police for their cert dives.
00:13 <mweltin> nice
00:13 <zombie67> who drives?
00:13 <zombie67> would make me nercvouse to drive with a cop in the car
00:13 <zombie67> nervous
00:14 <zombie67> ro do you all just meet up there?
00:14 <mweltin> divers did I write drivers?
00:14 <mweltin> we had a police boat escort too.
00:14 <zombie67> no, who drives to the dive?
00:14 <mweltin> what?!
00:14 <mweltin> we just drove up to the house
00:15 <mweltin> It's not even a mile away.
00:15 <zombie67> so you met ther
00:15 <zombie67> cool
00:15 <mweltin> for dinner, yes.
00:15 <zombie67> how many people dining?
00:16 <zombie67> do you have an automated work generator? And if so, is it based on time, or size of the queue?
00:16 <mweltin> me, my GF, dive instructor and his wife, dive master, the gov, and first lady,police chief his wife and daughter.
00:17 <mweltin> based on size of queue.
00:17 <mweltin> runs every hour.
00:17 <zombie67> nice small dinner with the gov! Even more impressive!@
00:17 <zombie67> cool
00:17 <mweltin> yeah
00:17 <zombie67> on Xmas, I will be hammering your server pretty hard.
00:18 <mweltin> why is that?
00:18 <zombie67> done with the WCH race!
00:18 <zombie67> ECG
00:18 <zombie67> WCG
00:18 <mweltin> nice
00:18 <zombie67> gu
00:18 <zombie67> RAC was 1181, now 763!
00:19 <mweltin> I really need this GA done, so I can trim off lots of the unneeded paths.
00:19 <mweltin> find an optimal path in my lifetime.
00:19 <zombie67> thanks for fixing that, BTW.
00:19 <mweltin> someone ran the numbers again, and its not looking good right now.
00:19 <mweltin> no worries zombie67 thanks for keeping my on my toes.
00:20 <zombie67> for us bigger crunchers, we use the stats to help understand the general health of our farm.
00:20 <zombie67> no time to look at each machine individually
00:21 <zombie67> so keeping stats current is kinda important.
00:21 <zombie67> ooo!
00:21 <zombie67> News: I just passed 9,000,000 in total BOINC points!
00:21 <mweltin> NICE!!!!
00:22 <mweltin> congrats
00:22 <zombie67> danks
00:22 <zombie67> danka
00:22 <mweltin> bite shurn
00:22 <zombie67> #135 in the world.
00:22 <mweltin> holy S%&*#iznit!
00:22 <mweltin> thats crazy
00:23 <zombie67> And that includes users who are really universties and companies
00:23 <mweltin> double crazy.
00:23 <zombie67> double danke
00:24 <zombie67> anyway, on xmas, my macs will be freed up, and I will be attacking TSP and milkyway.
00:24 <zombie67> looking forward to it
00:24 <zombie67> I hear that win is currently much slower than linux on tsp
00:24 <mweltin> same here.
00:25 <mweltin> linux has always been the fastest
00:25 <zombie67> which platform is OSX closer to, performance-wise?
00:25 <mweltin> win
00:25 <zombie67> dang
00:25 <mweltin> in fact I think that one is the worst.
00:26 <zombie67> I was hoping with the similarity of unix to linux....
00:26 <mweltin> which is strange as MTughan uses optimizations that I forget at times.
00:26 <zombie67> PPC vs Intel on OSX?
00:26 <mweltin> that is why I was shocked
00:26 <zombie67> both slow?
00:26 <mweltin> hard to say, I didn't look that deep when I did my review of the results database.
00:27 <zombie67> okay, I'll help provide data
00:27 <mweltin> I just looked at platforms
00:27 <zombie67> that will hopefully help improve speed
00:28 <zombie67> you have some very special help with tsp
00:28 <zombie67> most projects don't, aren't aware it is available, and some wouldn't even welcome it. sad
00:28 <mweltin> yeah, this room ,and other parts of hte boinc community have just done tons of work.
00:29 <zombie67> some very bright people are eager to help, no strings attached
00:29 <mweltin> I won't have gotten this off the ground without them.
00:29 <mweltin> yeah, very true.
00:29 <mweltin> I'm going to make that a big point in the stuff I write for stgw or whatever its called.
00:30 <zombie67> BTW, I am not one of them. I just try to provide data when needed, because I have a wide variety of machines.
00:30 <mweltin> hahahahahaahah
00:30 <zombie67> I am no coder
00:31 <zombie67> no l33t sklzs
00:31 <mweltin> I'm getting better.
00:31 <mweltin> of course I've been saying that for 10 years now.
00:31 <mweltin> I'd put odds on PovAddict being much much better than I.
00:32 <zombie67> I have the feeling that POV is a prodigy. his brain just groks stuff without effort.
00:33 <mweltin> you think
00:33 <mweltin> yeah
00:33 <mweltin> that kid is something else.
00:33 <mweltin> too bad he will burn out and end up a surf bum in Hawaii after comeing up with some multi million dollar deal.
00:34 <zombie67> It is like an illiterate vs. you reading the news paper. There is a "something" that one has that the other doesn't, and it makes all the difference
00:34 <zombie67> I wish I could end up that badly
00:34 <zombie67> ;)
00:35 <mweltin> same here
00:35 <zombie67> anywho, I need to take care of some bill-paying (ordering comics for Febuary).
00:35 <mweltin> right on
00:35 <mweltin> take it easy
00:36 <zombie67> seriously, way to go with the gov.
00:36 <zombie67> impressive
00:36 <mweltin> thanks, it was cool.
00:36 <mweltin> he needs 6 more dives
00:36 <mweltin> and has my number
00:36 <mweltin> with any luck he will call.
00:36 <zombie67> you will be is "spock" in no time!
00:37 <zombie67> spock is so much better than #1
00:37 <mweltin> He is going on a NOWA ship
00:37 <mweltin> hahaha
00:37 <zombie67> ciao
00:37 <zombie67> bbl
00:37 <mweltin> next gen is no where near the cool factor of the orgiginal
00:37 <mweltin> ll
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00:49 <Soul_keeper> lol
00:49 <Soul_keeper> did someone say spock ?
01:19 <mweltin> hey
01:19 <mweltin> zombie67 did
01:19 <mweltin> he is a littel carzy that way
01:28 <mweltin> my genetic algorithm will be ready for alpha testing by tomorrow.
01:40 <Soul_keeper> hey when you get old do you get grey hairs on yur testis ?
01:41 <Soul_keeper> just wondering ...
01:41 <mweltin> you know they keep a log of this irc room right?
01:41 <mweltin> is that what you want to be remembered for?
01:41 <Soul_keeper> that's ok i have no shame
01:41 <mweltin> hahahahaha
01:41 <mweltin> hahahahahahahaha
01:41 <Soul_keeper> i've been caugh saying worse on irc logs
01:41 <mweltin> ok then, fair enough.
01:42 <Soul_keeper> i kinda want an answer tho ...
01:42 <mweltin> you were the one with the linux group that had like 3 windows users?
01:42 <mweltin> I have no idea
01:42 <mweltin> so far I'm clean
01:42 <Soul_keeper> yeah that's me
01:42 <mweltin> or void of gray hair.
01:42 <Soul_keeper> #linuxsociety
01:42 <mweltin> bash.org rejected that
01:43 <mweltin> I almost fell out of my chair when you said that.
01:43 <Soul_keeper> lol
01:45 <mweltin> ok I'm going drinking, my GA compiles and I need a break.
01:45 <Soul_keeper> k
01:45 <mweltin> take care
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02:07 <Tank_Master> ugg
02:07 <Tank_Master> missed mw
02:09 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007
02:09 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 33.0°F / 0.6°C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 30.40in / 1029.3hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Colder. Patchy freezing fog. Lows in the 20s. East wind 5 to 10 mph.; Sunday - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers in the afternoon. Snow level 500 feet. Highs 35 to 40. Light wind.; Sunday Night - Mostly cloudy. A chance of (1 more message)
02:09 <Tank_Master> &more
02:09 <Romulus> Tank_Master: showers in the evening. Snow level 500 feet. Lows around 30. Light wind.;
02:12 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977
02:12 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 46.2°F / 7.9°C | Humidity: 85% | Pressure: 29.59in / 1001.9hPa | Conditions: Rain | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Rain likely and chance of thunderstorms. Lows 34 to 44. Winds west 15 mph in the evening becoming light. Chance of measurable precipitation 70 percent.; Sunday - Rain and a chance of thunderstorms in the morning...then scattered showers (1 more message)
02:12 <Soul_keeper> it's raining hard now
02:13 <Soul_keeper> &more
02:13 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: and isolated thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs 55 to 60 in the western valleys to 47 to 52 near the foothills. Winds east 15 mph.; Sunday Night - Partly cloudy in the evening...becoming mostly clear. Lows 33 to 43. Winds northeast 15 mph in the evening becoming light.; Special Weather Statement for San Diego County in effect until 12:00 AM PST on December 09, 2007;
02:15 <Soul_keeper> lol i just went outside and it is hailing hard now
02:16 <Tank_Master> nice
02:16 <Tank_Master> all hail the weather goddess
02:22 <Romulus> Title: Vista Performance Score (at www.tweaks2k2.com)
02:22 <Soul_keeper> man amd has really went into the toilet since hector ruiz took over
02:23 <Tank_Master> hehe
02:23 <Tank_Master> yep
02:23 <Soul_keeper> for some reason he reminds me of roberto gonzalez ...
02:23 <Soul_keeper> maybe he'll suffer the same fate
02:24 <Tank_Master> duno
02:24 <Tank_Master> hope the company dosnt collaps under his command
02:24 <Soul_keeper> it could
02:25 <Soul_keeper> he isn't even focusing on niche markets that could be won and generate profits
02:25 <Tank_Master> to bad
02:30 <Soul_keeper> looks like floyd mayweather won the fight against hatton
02:36 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140
02:36 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 35.9°F / 2.2°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 30.22in / 1023.2hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 3.5mph / 5.6km/h ; Tonight - Rain likely. Lows in the upper 30s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.; Sunday - Rain with a chance of thunderstorms. Highs in the lower 50s. East winds around 5 mph...becoming south in the afternoon. Chance of (1 more message)
02:36 <CoderForLife> &more
02:36 <Romulus> CoderForLife: rain 90 percent.; Sunday Night - Rain with a chance of thunderstorms. Lows around 40. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 90 percent.;
02:36 <Tank_Master> im off to bed
02:37 <Tank_Master> gn
02:37 <Soul_keeper> late
02:37 <CoderForLife> gn T_M
02:39 <CoderForLife> something to drink, and back to bed for me
02:39 <CoderForLife> cya
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03:47 <freelarry> morn all
03:48 <freelarry> if BadBarbarian around package arrived - looks good will try installing on Tues
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03:53 <zombie67> hi yoy
03:53 <zombie67> o
03:54 <yoyo[RKN]> hi
03:54 <zombie67> since I am 100% WCG (due to you!) on all my PCs and macs,
03:54 <yoyo[RKN]> ;)
03:55 <zombie67> I decided to take my ps3 from 100% ps3grid to 50/50 with yoyo
03:55 <yoyo[RKN]> thx
03:55 <yoyo[RKN]> yoyo had a relly big output yesterday
03:56 <zombie67> and now LHC finally released a bunch of work!
03:56 <zombie67> ack!
03:56 <yoyo[RKN]> do yu saw this http://www.setiusa.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=110391#110391
03:56 <zombie67> I amuct get it while i can
03:58 <zombie67> amuct = must
03:58 <zombie67> yeah, pov showed that to me right off
04:00 <zombie67> yoyo has the second thickest brick on that page
04:00 <yoyo[RKN]> yes!
04:00 <yoyo[RKN]> who has more?
04:00 <zombie67> aps
04:05 <zombie67> brb
04:08 <zombie67> back
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04:36 <freelarry> humm anyone remember how to get into bios on an old compaq 633?
04:36 <Christian_B> xcamel: Are you there?
04:36 <freelarry> he's probable sleeping
04:36 <zombie67> crack-it-oa
04:36 <zombie67> ?
04:37 <Christian_B> Have you tried the default keys? Del, F2, F10
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04:41 <freelarry> del no go will try f2 and f10
04:41 <freelarry> they didn't have network installed so trying to figure out which one to try on win 3.1 and is nic car
04:41 <freelarry> card
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04:43 <freelarry> f10
04:45 <freelarry> boy is that ever a minimal bios
04:45 <zombie67> "Didn't I tell you to go to bed?!?" "Oh, no! Stupendous Man's stupendous powers are no match against his adversary! Stupendous Man is vanquished!...This would have been plenty humiliating *without* the goodnight kiss." -- Mom and Calvin
04:46 <freelarry> lol heading that way soon
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04:49 <freelarry> humm going to be fun trying to remember how to connect to internet without dialup on 3.1
04:49 <zombie67> luck!
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04:50 <freelarry> will bneed lots of it
04:50 <freelarry> thanks zombie67
04:51 <freelarry> yuck only looks for dialup modems
04:54 <ChristianB> what version do you have?
04:54 <ChristianB> Windows for Workgroups or the normal version?
05:05 <freelarry> ahh this version requires me to use a proxy server for lan
05:05 <freelarry> lol this is win 3.1
05:06 <freelarry> gots to do a lot of relearning
05:06 <freelarry> regular version for desktop it looks like
05:07 <freelarry> haveing to find where to go to get various tools to come up for access to make any changes
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05:47 <CoderForLife> brb after breakfast
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05:55 <Bad_At_Home> Morning Everyone
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05:55 <Bad_At_Home> &weather 86046
05:55 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Temperature: 23.2°F / -4.9°C | Humidity: 90% | Pressure: 23.54in / 797.1hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 5.4mph / 8.7km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of snow showers. Little or no snow accumulation. Highs 34 to 40. Light winds.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a 40 percent chance of snow showers. Snow accumulation up to 1 inch. Lows around 22. Light (1 more message)
05:56 <Bad_At_Home> &more
05:56 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: winds.; Monday - Mostly cloudy. A chance of snow showers in the morning...snow showers likely and isolated thunderstorms in the afternoon. Snow accumulation 5 to 8 inches possible. Snow level 5500 feet. Highs 33 to 39. Light winds. Chance of precipitation 60 percent.;
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06:01 <freelarry> morn Bad_At_Home
06:01 <freelarry> got the package today
06:01 <Bad_At_Home> Cool
06:01 <freelarry> cant seem to get network working on it yet
06:02 <Bad_At_Home> i found win 95 drivers online it says they work for win 3.1
06:02 <freelarry> k will get link from you tuesday when i can play longer
06:02 <Bad_At_Home> like i said lol had no way to test it
06:03 <Bad_At_Home> ok
06:03 <Bad_At_Home> driversguide is where i found it
06:03 <freelarry> true - doesn't detect a new modem when i try so not sure if good or not
06:03 <Bad_At_Home> lol its not a modem
06:04 <Bad_At_Home> netcard
06:04 <freelarry> humm don't have an account with them - could have but probably expired as haven't logged on in over 5 yrs
06:04 <Bad_At_Home> its still free
06:04 <freelarry> yeah win 3.2 very limited as to what it detects
06:04 <freelarry> 3.1
06:04 <Bad_At_Home> lol ta=hat for sur
06:05 <Bad_At_Home> lol thats for sure
06:05 <Bad_At_Home> get the numbers off the big chip thats all you need
06:06 <freelarry> all big chips but think the 9008 number what referred to
06:06 <Bad_At_Home> google the number there are other places that have that driver
06:06 <Bad_At_Home> yes
06:07 <Bad_At_Home> plus some letters in front i think
06:07 <Bad_At_Home> dv or some thing
06:07 <freelarry> yup will have to open case again
06:07 <Bad_At_Home> lol you need to write that stuff down first
06:08 <freelarry> think there is a lot of missing software to make this work
06:08 <freelarry> lol true
06:08 <freelarry> memory not what it was - now what did i just type?
06:08 <Bad_At_Home> let me look real quick brb
06:11 <Bad_At_Home> you have dcc on your chat client i have the file
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06:13 <freelarry> darn missed BadBarbarian while doing a pot of coffee - have dcc
06:14 <freelarry> for his sign off definitely Y
06:16 <freelarry> dm9008f
06:25 <freelarry> http://www.davicom.com.tw/eng/download/Driver/driver_9008.htm wonder if i should get the dos instead? got the win95 but not sure where to put in 3.1
06:26 <freelarry> well bed time talk l8r
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07:18 <CoderForLife> mini-split
07:18 <Romulus> Title: Astronomy Picture of the Day (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)
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07:19 <CoderForLife> taking another dive into #boinc, mweltin?
07:19 <mweltin> sort of
07:19 <mweltin> ga is built but crashing
07:19 <mweltin> not sure what the deal is.
07:20 <Romulus> Title: Astronomy Picture of the Day (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)
07:22 <mweltin> wow that is cool
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07:43 <CoderForLife> more split
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07:50 <siofwolves> yeah, its a biggie too.
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08:01 <xcamel> &weather 12074
08:01 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 23.5°F / -4.7°C | Humidity: 85% | Pressure: 30.42in / 1030.0hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. A chance of snow this afternoon. Highs around 30. Light and variable winds. Chance of snow 50 percent.; Tonight - Snow and sleet. Freezing rain after midnight. Total accumulation of 1 to 3 inches. Ice accumulation around one (1 more message)
08:01 <xcamel> &more
08:01 <Romulus> xcamel: quarter of an inch. Not as cool with lows in the upper 20s. Light and variable winds. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Monday - Mostly cloudy. Highs in the upper 30s. Light and variable winds...becoming northwest 5 to 10 mph in the afternoon.; Winter Weather Advisory for Saratoga County in effect until 12:00 PM EST on December 10, 2007;
08:02 <CoderForLife> morning Jay
08:02 <xcamel> 'lo Don
08:02 <CoderForLife> how's the cold?
08:03 <xcamel> breaking up slowly
08:08 <CoderForLife> breaking up - good, slowly - sorry
08:11 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2007 December 9 - The Fairy of Eagle Nebula (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)
08:12 <CoderForLife> yep - beautiful - I shared that link with mweltin this morning
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08:17 <xcamel> ice storm headed your way... and then on toward me....
08:18 <CoderForLife> ack
08:18 <xcamel> indeed
08:18 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140
08:18 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 36.5°F / 2.5°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 30.19in / 1022.2hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 2.3mph / 3.7km/h ; Today - Rain likely this morning. Rain with a chance of thunderstorms this afternoon. Highs in the upper 40s. East winds around 5 mph...becoming south this afternoon. Chance of rain 90 percent.; Tonight - Rain with a chance of thunderstorms in (1 more message)
08:18 <CoderForLife> &more
08:18 <Romulus> CoderForLife: the evening. Lows around 40. Southwest winds around 5 mph...becoming northwest after midnight. Chance of rain 90 percent.; Monday - Cloudy. Rain likely in the morning...then a chance of rain in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 40s. North winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.;
08:18 <CoderForLife> looks too warm
08:20 <xcamel> you might get lucky and stay on the warm side
08:21 <CoderForLife> yeah, sometimes random chance falls your way
08:21 <xcamel> daughter has her road test again tomorrow
08:21 <CoderForLife> I have to go see my sister this afternoon, so I'd rather have rain than ice
08:22 <xcamel> lol
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08:23 <CoderForLife> I need to get in the 4:00-5:00 visitor window for ICU
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08:36 <xcamel> little split..
08:37 <CoderForLife> been a splitty morning
08:38 <xcamel> midwest winter radar is looking pretty ugly
08:48 <xcamel> funny:
08:48 <xcamel> hoax or not?
08:49 <CoderForLife> who knows
08:50 <CoderForLife> may have just been a honeypot
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09:01 <xcamel> morning Doug
09:02 <wdsmia> mornin Jay
09:02 <xcamel> getting some bad weather?
09:03 <wdsmia> &weather 50265
09:03 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 12°F / -11°C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 30.48in / 1032hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h ; Today - Periods of sleet...snow and patchy freezing drizzle in the morning...then occasional light snow...sleet and areas of freezing drizzle in the afternoon. Little or no new snow and sleet accumulation. High 15 to 20. North wind around 10 mph. Chance of (1 more message)
09:03 <wdsmia> &more
09:03 <Romulus> wdsmia: precipitation 80 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy until early morning then becoming partly cloudy. Areas of freezing drizzle in the evening. Low 5 to 10 above. Northwest wind around 5 mph.; Monday - Partly sunny. High in the lower 20s. Southwest wind around 5 mph.; Winter Storm Watch for Warren County in effect until 6:00 PM CST on December 11, 2007;
09:06 <xcamel> sheck out camera 2 on mi site...
09:07 <xcamel> wild turkeys VS gray squirrels
09:09 <xcamel> we're quite sure they are the offspring of my old bronze tom who died last spring
09:09 <CoderForLife> checks out the Darwinian struggle
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09:10 <CoderForLife> morning wdsmia
09:13 <CoderForLife> that's something that I haven't seen stroll through here yet - wild turkeys
09:18 <xcamel> btw... reports that a hunter shot "a wolf or something" in the next town south of me - nearly 70 lbs
09:18 <xcamel> one down... maybe...
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09:29 <CoderForLife> did you think there was more than one?
09:32 <BadBarbarian> morning
09:32 <CoderForLife> morning citizens of Arizona
09:32 <xcamel> we're fairly sure there were 3 as recently as last august
09:33 <CoderForLife> yikes
09:34 <xcamel> they didn't seem to be traveling together
09:34 <CoderForLife> that seems odd
09:38 <xcamel> I know..
09:51 * CoderForLife listens to the blue jay call go out - "Peanuts! Peanuts!"
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09:54 * CoderForLife hears the announcement spread far and wide
09:54 * ChristianB is listening to Porcelain by Red Hot Chili Peppers on Californication [Amarok]
10:01 * CoderForLife continues listening to the bluejays as they swoop in to get peanuts
10:04 <xcamel> our bluejays steal the dog food...
10:04 <xcamel> en masse, as it were...
10:04 <CoderForLife> I wish they'd steal the neighbors dog...
10:05 * CoderForLife listens to the rain grow heavier
10:05 <xcamel> a bit yappy?
10:05 <CoderForLife> the dog's name is Lulu
10:06 <CoderForLife> 'splains it all
10:07 <CoderForLife> I asked for a "no bark" device for Christmas
10:08 <CoderForLife> next year, my request for a no-bark device will be in the form of a firearm
10:11 <xcamel> wow - and just damn....
10:12 <xcamel> potentially 413 billion barrels of oil underneath North Dakota and Montana
10:12 <xcamel> Bakken's shale formation
10:12 <CoderForLife> excellent
10:12 <CoderForLife> that's a lot
10:12 <CoderForLife> what's the Saudi reserve?
10:13 <xcamel> 8 times bigger than anwar - if we can figure out how to get it
10:13 <CoderForLife> why is capture2 red, Jay?
10:13 <xcamel> red?
10:13 <xcamel> ah... auto iris stuck
10:13 <CoderForLife> ah
10:15 <xcamel> ficed
10:15 <xcamel> fixed, even
10:16 <CoderForLife> yup - mucho better
10:16 <Romulus> Title: Bakken Shale Formation | Williston Basis Montana (at www.crownexploration.com)
10:16 <CoderForLife> "Prominent geochemists estimate the recoverable resources in the Bakken from 271 to 503 billion barrels. "
10:16 <BadBarbarian> morning
10:17 <xcamel> mornin BB
10:17 <CoderForLife> morning again Arizona
10:17 <BadBarbarian> i have a question
10:17 <CoderForLife> you have the microphone
10:17 <xcamel> go for it..
10:18 <BadBarbarian> i want to put mythbuntu on my quad stand alone no vista
10:18 <BadBarbarian> but like most peiple i have been in windows for 20 years
10:19 <BadBarbarian> how hard is the learning curve
10:19 <xcamel> iirc.. myth(tv) takes quite a bit of work to get configured correctly
10:20 <xcamel> but there is a ton of 'howto' on the net
10:20 <BadBarbarian> reading at mythbuntu now
10:20 <BadBarbarian> is it x64
10:21 <xcamel> I haven't attempted it yet, but it will work in fedora 7/8 also
10:21 <BadBarbarian> i have fedora 8 on hand
10:21 <xcamel> but as a system - myth is pretty impressive.
10:21 <xcamel> tons of people working on it all the time
10:22 <xcamel> note to self - tylenol head cold gives me "buzzy head" - take off the list
10:23 <BadBarbarian> take a theriflu
10:23 <xcamel> I hate that stuff.
10:24 <BadBarbarian> i do too but 2 teaspoons of sugar work for me
10:24 <xcamel> the new aklaseltzer cold formula works well - and it's not 'gag a maggot' flavor any more.
10:24 <BadBarbarian> lol
10:24 <BadBarbarian> unlike theriflu
10:25 <xcamel> now 'baby asprin' flavor
10:28 <BadBarbarian> there is an amd 64 build but i dont see an intel 64 build
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10:53 * CoderForLife wanders back
10:54 <desti> The launch of space shuttle Atlantis has been rescheduled for no earlier than Jan. 2, 2008. Engineers are evaluating false readings from the engine cutoff sensor system.
10:58 <CoderForLife> 'tis a shame - my sister's youngest daughter loves "everything NASA", and was looking forward to the launch
11:07 <CoderForLife> wow - great pic
11:08 <desti> yea
11:32 <CoderForLife> the roof is now black - replaced after storm damage in 2003
11:32 <CoderForLife> I wish I had the green paint off the front door
11:32 <CoderForLife> lunchtime - bbl
11:34 <BadBarbarian> if the turbo pumps run dry on the shuttle they can explode thats why they wont launch the sencors shut down the pumps before that can happen
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12:14 <xcamel> back again
12:14 <CoderForLife> me2
12:15 <Tank_Master> and im outa here
12:15 <CoderForLife> did you see the article about the flying saucers around Saturn? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,316061,00.html
12:16 <Tank_Master> lol
12:20 <wraund> A personal question, but if anyone lives in Anglia, UK, then consider joining this team http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/team_display.php?teamid=6950 :)
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12:55 <xcamel> blah..
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12:55 <CoderForLife> blah?
12:56 <xcamel> waiting for the nasty weather to start...
12:59 <xcamel> looks like it's about 50 miles north of you...
12:59 <xcamel> severe icing
13:00 <xcamel> chicago looks socked down pretty hard
13:01 <wdsmia_> South of me but it looks like your in for it Jay
13:04 <CoderForLife> raining heavy again
13:05 <xcamel> WKRC webcam totally fogged
13:05 <CoderForLife> 39F locally
13:05 <CoderForLife> here's their radar http://cctvimedia.clearchannel.com/wkrc/weather/13.jpg
13:06 <CoderForLife> yeah - that's me in the yellow rain dot
13:09 <xcamel> the freezing line is really tricky..
13:28 <CoderForLife> I accept that "freezing" and "tricky" always go together
13:28 <PovAddict> yo
13:29 <CoderForLife> yo PovAddict
13:30 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: ping
13:32 <CoderForLife> I've been doing a few LHC WUs apparently
13:33 <CoderForLife> 6 to report
13:33 <PovAddict> 39d 13h 18m uptime
13:37 <xcamel> I got some too it seems
13:42 <wdsmia_> looks like I got about 320
13:43 <xcamel> units?
13:44 <wdsmia_> yep
13:44 <PovAddict> o.0
13:44 <PovAddict> lucky bastard
13:44 <xcamel> I never get more than 2 or 3 per box
13:46 <xcamel> wandering off for a few..
13:48 * wdsmia_ also has about 150 >1 credit wu's stuck in pending :(
14:00 <wdsmia_> TM must have got a load his RAC is about 60 above mine
14:11 * CoderForLife wanders back
14:11 <CoderForLife> filled the water softener with salt...
14:11 <CoderForLife> yip yip yipee
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14:33 <CoderForLife> bbiab
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14:59 <Tank_Master> its snowing!
14:59 * Tank_Master is happy!
15:00 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007
15:00 <Tank_Master> &more
15:00 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 36.1°F / 2.3°C | Humidity: 84% | Pressure: 30.34in / 1027.3hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Light rain or snow likely. Snow level 500 feet or less. Little or no snow accumulation. Highs 35 to 40. Light wind.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of flurries or sprinkles mainly in the evening. Patchy fog after midnight. Snow level (1 more message)
15:00 <Romulus> Tank_Master: 500 feet or less. No snow accumulation. Lows around 30. Light wind.; Monday - Mostly cloudy...becoming partly sunny in the afternoon. Patchy fog in the morning. Highs around 40. Light wind.;
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15:04 <ChristianB> &weather Leipzig
15:04 <Romulus> ChristianB: Temperature: 43Â°F / 6Â°C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.36in / 994hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 8:50 PM CET; Chance of Rain. High:44 ° F. / 7 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:39 ° F. / 4 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. High:44 ° F. / 7 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:35 ° F. / 2 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:42 ° F. / 6 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:39 ° F. / (1 more message)
15:05 <ChristianB> &more
15:05 <Romulus> ChristianB: 4 ° C.;
15:05 <ChristianB> I think I'll go to bed now. cu tommorow (hopefully)
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15:12 <Tank_Master> wb efc
15:13 <efc> Hey
15:14 <BadBarbarian> hey tank
15:14 <Tank_Master> hey
15:14 <Tank_Master> BB
15:14 <Tank_Master> still lightly snowing
15:15 <BadBarbarian> dallas getting an ass wooping
15:15 <Tank_Master> so?
15:15 <Tank_Master> ;)
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15:34 <PovAddict> 31 minutes left for my CPDN WU!
15:34 <Tank_Master> lol
15:34 <Tank_Master> not bad
15:34 <PovAddict> elapsed: 2758 hrs
15:34 <Tank_Master> wow
15:34 <Tank_Master> for a cpdn WU, thats short
15:37 <PovAddict> it's a Pentium IV 3.0GHz running it
15:38 <Tank_Master> most of mine take 4k hrs on a P4 3.0
15:38 <PovAddict> well I got this one the 17th of april
15:39 <Tank_Master> the UW?
15:40 <BadBarbarian_> how much credit do you get for a cpdn wu
15:40 <Tank_Master> lots
15:40 <Tank_Master> more per hr then SETI
15:41 <PovAddict> I dont understand why that WU has initial replication 4!
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15:42 <PovAddict> wow it seems to be speeding up
15:42 <PovAddict> ETA going down at "three seconds per second"
15:44 <Tank_Master> hehe
15:48 <CoderForLife> I'm off - prolly for the rest of the day
15:48 <CoderForLife> cya folks
15:48 <BadBarbarian_> later bud
15:48 <PovAddict> cya
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15:50 <BadBarbarian_> afternoon yoyo
15:50 <Tank_Master> yo yoyo
15:50 * Tank_Master is heading out to for a bit
15:50 <BadBarbarian_> later
15:50 <Tank_Master> snow has stoped falling, so im gonna go take a nap
15:50 <BadBarbarian_> stuck at work here lol
15:51 <Tank_Master> lol
15:51 <Tank_Master> s2bu
15:51 <BadBarbarian_> lol
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16:23 <freelarry> just quick note BadBarbarian_ not sure that the isa slots are working on that old machine as he modem also doesnot initialize
16:23 <freelarry> both on the same exension riser and no other slots avail on mb
16:24 <freelarry> will look for null modem cable to see if can get to go into another machine and out
16:25 <freelarry> off to w/*-
16:30 <efc> need to network old machine?
16:31 <BadBarbarian_> did you get it running
16:31 <BadBarbarian_> have you cleaned the slots
16:32 <BadBarbarian_> isa is bad about dust
16:32 <efc> Never had a bus go bad but guess its possible
16:33 <BadBarbarian_> wipe card bottoms with alcohol and use air on slots
16:34 <BadBarbarian_> happened all the time back than
16:34 <BadBarbarian_> dirty slots that is
16:36 <BadBarbarian_> clean the bottom of the riser too
16:37 <BadBarbarian_> lol the first system i ever built was a 80286 12 so i realy do know lol
16:47 <xcamel> re-hi
16:47 <BadBarbarian_> 'lo xcamel
16:48 <BadBarbarian_> have you ever done a ubutu myth install xcamel
16:48 <xcamel> Hiya BB
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17:06 <xcamel> well... the latest mess has started...
17:06 <xcamel> looks like we're north of the ice line for a while
17:09 <BadBarbarian_> still snowing here
17:15 <xcamel> how much so far?
17:16 <BadBarbarian_> well some melted and started again 4 inch last night
17:18 <xcamel> just flurries so far, but could get to be a real mess by tomorrow...
17:19 <BadBarbarian_> your in new mexico right
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17:30 <PovAddict> o_o
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17:31 <xcamel> I don't trust those...
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18:16 <Tank_Master> mw!
18:16 <mweltin> hey hey Tank_Master
18:16 <mweltin> hwo goes it.
18:16 <mweltin> I'm in debug heck right now.
18:17 <mweltin> it will be full blow hell in three hours.
18:17 <Tank_Master> lol
18:17 <Tank_Master> we r getting some flurries here :)
18:17 <mweltin> but for now its just annoying bits of ga not working and STL and inline functions messing up gdb.
18:17 <Tank_Master> nothing is sticking of corse
18:17 <mweltin> hahahahahahaah
18:18 <PovAddict> mweltin: are you compiling with optimization?
18:18 <mweltin> first let me get it working, and then yes. level 2 or 3 I forget which.
18:18 <PovAddict> don't
18:18 <PovAddict> debugging with optimization is hell
18:19 <mweltin> I don't complie with optimization when I debug.
18:19 <PovAddict> ah ok
18:19 <mweltin> only after, when I want to release it.
18:19 <PovAddict> the compiler may change your program upside down to make it faster, but give the same results... however that's totally painful when debugging
18:19 <mweltin> I recompile it and strip it.
18:19 <PovAddict> you go step by step and the code jumps all over the place
18:20 <mweltin> yes I have run into that problem before. Back when I couldn't read a makefile or even knew about optimizations.
18:20 <mweltin> a week or so ago :)
18:29 <Tank_Master> Pov
18:30 <Tank_Master> I see you took down your platform page :)
18:32 <mweltin> is PovAddict gone?
18:32 <PovAddict> nt rly
18:32 <mweltin> I have a code question
18:33 <mweltin> If I declare a STL vector of some class say A like so....
18:33 <mweltin> vector<A> myvec;
18:33 <mweltin> is the A constructor ever called?
18:34 <PovAddict> I seem to recall it's a bad idea to use STL containers with objects
18:34 <PovAddict> as opposed to *pointers* to objects
18:35 <mweltin> its a pain in the ass, but I would have to rewrite a ton of code if I change it now.
18:36 <mweltin> I'm pushing hard to get the GA in at least in a alpha state for the tsp project.
18:36 <mweltin> by today
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18:50 <mweltin> fourty_two, thats funny, its the seed for my random number generator right now.
18:50 <PovAddict> &google calc the answer to life, the universe, and everything
18:50 <Romulus> PovAddict: the answer to life, the universe, and everything = 42
18:51 <mweltin> lol
18:51 <mweltin> but what's the question?
18:52 <fourty_two> what is 'the answer to life, the universe, and everything'
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18:57 <mweltin> HAHAAHAAHAHAAH
18:57 <mweltin> my ga doesn't actually calculate a fitness value!!!!!!!!!
18:57 <mweltin> LOL
18:57 <mweltin> I can't belive poeple hire me to write code sometimes.
18:59 <Tank_Master> lol
19:07 <PovAddict> if I consider that online 'lite' version "priceless", I'm sure I will eventually buy the full book
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19:11 <mweltin> it's all K&R here. In fact I when I filled out a personal add I listed that as the best book I ever read.
19:11 <PovAddict> K&R is probably useful for C
19:11 <PovAddict> C++ is a different beast
19:12 <mweltin> C++ is C with duct tape and wire holding a ton of other stuff to it.
19:13 <PovAddict> ever used classes? yes you have
19:13 <PovAddict> ever used templates?
19:13 <mweltin> and the funny thing is I still like it more than java.
19:13 <PovAddict> virtual methods in classes? exceptions?
19:13 <mweltin> I never got the hang of templates
19:13 <mweltin> virtual methods yes.
19:13 <PovAddict> C++ is a lot more than C with classes
19:14 <mweltin> I was implying that maybe some features could have been implimented differently.
19:15 <PovAddict> like in any language on earth
19:15 <mweltin> very true
19:15 <mweltin> take my spelling for example
19:15 <PovAddict> programming hasn't existed for long enough
19:15 <mweltin> very different from traditional english.
19:15 <PovAddict> lol
19:16 <PovAddict> you need a chat client with built-in spell checker
19:16 <mweltin> yes, its need a lot of things saddly.
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19:17 <mweltin> do you know if xchat has that?
19:17 <Tank_Master> or a keyborad they types what you want it to type and not what you tell it to
19:17 <mweltin> that would be much better
19:17 * PovAddict gives Tank_Master a lollipop
19:18 <mweltin> speaking of candy, my kitchenaid mixer crashed.
19:19 <mweltin> some worm gear got all chewed up.
19:19 <Tank_Master> bummer
19:19 <mweltin> those things are bulit like tanks.
19:19 <mweltin> its all metal, no plastic at all.
19:19 <mweltin> new wormgear assembly was $24
19:19 <mweltin> of course it will be three weeks before i get it.
19:19 <mweltin> no christmas cookies for me.
19:20 * efc wants a mixer with internal combustion engine and manual pull-start cord
19:20 <mweltin> I bet you could convert an old weed wacker.
19:30 <The_XMas_Turkey> i am the turkey
19:30 <The_XMas_Turkey> bow down to me
19:30 <The_XMas_Turkey> RARW!
19:30 <The_XMas_Turkey> ohai thur CoderForLife
19:31 <mweltin> bbl
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19:35 * wdsmia kicks Sethy and his Turkey thou the goal post... three points :)
19:44 <The_XMas_Turkey> who's sethy?
19:44 <The_XMas_Turkey> :)
19:47 <efc> I guess you heard that the Prez pardons turkeys every now and then...
19:47 <efc> What you haven't heard is that the un-pardoned turkeys are being waterboarded down at Guantanamo
19:52 <CoderForLife> somebody rang?
19:52 <PovAddict> The_XMas_Turkey said hi
19:52 * efc gurgle gurgle GobbleGobble! gurgle gurgle
19:53 <CoderForLife> hello The_XMas_Turkey
19:53 <CoderForLife> it is about time for the seasonal change in nicks
19:53 <PovAddict> somebody in #rieselsieve told me "I didn't know your name was Santa"
19:54 * CoderForLife wonders where TheJollyRedGiant and Fairy Nuff will be this year
19:54 <PovAddict> &seen Fairy_Nuff
19:54 <Romulus> PovAddict: Fairy_Nuff was last seen in #boinc 48 weeks, 6 days, 23 hours, 13 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <Fairy_Nuff> and good night from here
19:54 <PovAddict> &seen Spit_theDog
19:54 <Romulus> PovAddict: Spit_theDog was last seen in #boinc 29 weeks, 4 days, 14 hours, 25 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <Spit_theDog> Bye for now all :)
19:54 *** CoderForLife is now known as ChristmasCoder
19:54 <PovAddict> &google calc 29 weeks 4 days to months
19:55 <Romulus> PovAddict: 29 weeks 4 days = 6.80096661 months
19:55 <PovAddict> :(
19:56 <ChristmasCoder> 'tis a sadness upon the season
19:57 <ChristmasCoder> just got back from the hospital - my sister is doing a little bit better but a long long way to go - thanks for the prayers, thoughts, well-wishes, YMMV
19:58 <PovAddict> well that's a good thing...
19:58 <ChristmasCoder> yeah, she recognized me
19:58 <PovAddict> guess what I thought when my climateprediction.net workunit reached 1%...
19:58 <PovAddict> "so far so good but a long way to go"
19:59 <ChristmasCoder> yup - your WU might win this race
19:59 <PovAddict> it finished successfully today
19:59 <ChristmasCoder> congrats
20:01 <ChristmasCoder> well - off to find something mindless to watch on TV, probably football
20:01 <ChristmasCoder> gn boinclanders
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20:16 <The_XMas_Turkey> rawr
20:16 <The_XMas_Turkey> i'm in ur ovens
20:16 <The_XMas_Turkey> marinating
20:16 <The_XMas_Turkey> on ur stock
20:16 <The_XMas_Turkey> everyone lol?
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20:23 <The_XMas_Turkey> hey mweltin
20:24 <mweltin> hey sethy
20:24 <mweltin> hwo goes it?
20:24 <mweltin> or should I say Mr. The_XMas_Turkey
20:24 <The_XMas_Turkey> it goes left and right
20:25 <The_XMas_Turkey> and in the oven
20:25 <PovAddict> you seriously remind me of ethan from cad
20:26 <PovAddict> for your lack of sanity
20:26 <The_XMas_Turkey> :D
20:31 <mweltin> PovAddict, life is way easier with the new expat parsers. Just say NO to global variables.
20:31 <mweltin> thanks for the tip.
20:35 <The_XMas_Turkey> false @ Global variables and true at local?
20:36 <The_XMas_Turkey> also PovAddict, sanity holds people back from life, its better to be borderline and in controll
20:37 <mweltin> well the tricky thing I find with sanity is that, you are really not the one to judge. You can only tell you were insane after you become sane again.
20:37 <mweltin> Hence knowing where the line is and controll are illusions at best.
20:40 <The_XMas_Turkey> but the turkey said there is a line
20:41 <The_XMas_Turkey> but there is no real line
20:41 <The_XMas_Turkey> the line is just a physical representation of a breaking point
20:42 <mweltin> a physical representation of a metal breaking point? Surely the giraffe speaks the truth?
20:42 <The_XMas_Turkey> mental
20:42 <mweltin> hahaha
20:42 <mweltin> yes
20:43 <The_XMas_Turkey> see
20:43 <mweltin> mendal
20:43 <The_XMas_Turkey> its got to you already
20:43 <The_XMas_Turkey> but then again your mom has the office 2007 look
20:44 <mweltin> I still contest I can't tell if I'm insane, by the fact that I question it, I'm not.
20:44 <mweltin> que?
20:44 <The_XMas_Turkey> non
20:45 <mweltin> oddly enough I feel less sane than I did an hour ago.
20:45 <xcamel> that happens... try getting old
20:45 <The_XMas_Turkey> thats because your talking to the master
20:45 <The_XMas_Turkey> or that
20:47 <xcamel> sethy - master - bwahahaha
20:47 <mweltin> mmmmmmmmm so the biq question is, is sanity a line or a ring? Can I go so insane I'm sane again?
20:47 <xcamel> sanity is a sphere...
20:48 <mweltin> so its possible, but unlikely to come back where you started given the random walk nature of insanity.
20:48 <mweltin> very interesting.
20:49 * mweltin ponders the hypercube of sanity.
20:49 <xcamel> insanity is an octachoron
20:49 <mweltin> a what?
20:50 <xcamel> look it up..
20:50 <mweltin> &define octachoron
20:50 <mweltin> lazy bot
20:50 <xcamel> try google
20:51 <mweltin> &google define octachoron
20:51 <Romulus> mweltin: Search took 0.18 seconds: tesseract: Definition and Much More from Answers.com: <http://www.answers.com/topic/tesseract>; octad - definition of octad by the Free Online Dictionary ...: <http://www.thefreedictionary.com/octad>; Octachord - definition of Octachord by the Free Online Dictionary ...: <http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Octachord>; Re: "Wrinkle.." Author Dies: (2 more messages)
20:53 <mweltin> maybe a kline bottle would be a better description
20:56 <xcamel> basically... hypercube.
20:56 <xcamel> just an old term for it.
20:57 <mweltin> I'm not positive but I think hypercube is a generic n-dimenstional thing-a-ma-gig.
20:58 <The_XMas_Turkey> I HAS TO GO NAO
20:58 <The_XMas_Turkey> ANd sanity is a hypersphere
20:58 <The_XMas_Turkey> not tesseract
20:58 <mweltin> good to know
20:59 <The_XMas_Turkey> bais all <3
20:59 * mweltin thinks The_XMas_Turkey is insane for thinking that.
21:22 <mweltin> how is you gdb?
21:47 <Bad_At_Home> I Allway miss the fun
21:47 <Bad_At_Home> lol
21:47 <mweltin> the sanity check?
21:47 <Bad_At_Home> yep
21:47 <mweltin> yeah I needed that
21:47 <Bad_At_Home> lol
21:47 <mweltin> Sunday pouring over code blahhh
21:47 <Bad_At_Home> ow
21:49 <mweltin> making good headway on the genetic algorithm
21:49 <mweltin> but a little boring
21:49 <Bad_At_Home> cool
21:50 <Bad_At_Home> check the price my friemd found for me at frys
21:52 <Bad_At_Home> 20 dollars more than the refurb i had and its new
21:54 <mweltin> be careful at frys
21:54 <mweltin> I stopped going there after a while.
21:55 <mweltin> the nearest one was in willsonville
21:55 <xcamel> btw: CompUSA is going out....
21:55 <Bad_At_Home> the warrenty is through gateway
21:55 <Bad_At_Home> online i should be fine
21:55 <xcamel> old Carlos can't seem to make enough money at it...
21:55 <mweltin> so buy it from them
21:56 <Bad_At_Home> no quads for sale sorry been there
21:56 <mweltin> there are good deals at fry's but more often than not I end up with crap.
21:56 <mweltin> spent harddrives, bad mother boards,
21:56 <mweltin> bad ram
21:57 <mweltin> it just wasn't worth it.
21:57 <Bad_At_Home> gareway should be all right
21:57 <xcamel> well... off with me...
21:57 <mweltin> I ended up going to Enu
21:57 <mweltin> a local store
21:57 <mweltin> real limitted warrenty
21:57 <mweltin> but I never had to bring anything back.
21:58 <Bad_At_Home> 12 months
21:58 <mweltin> getways are good, taht was my first computer I ever bought.
21:58 <mweltin> i got a 8MB video card upgrade for free.
21:58 <mweltin> up from 4MB
21:59 <mweltin> ok Bad_At_Home I'm out too. going to walk my dog and brush out the cobwebs from my fry'ed mind.
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