IRC logs of #boinc for Thursday, 2007-12-13

00:08 <MTughan> I'm off to bed.

00:08 <MTughan> &nn all

00:08 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

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01:16 <zombie67> yep, LHC now has 500 waiting...

01:27 * Tank_Master repeatedly presses the update button

01:27 <Tank_Master> 12/12/2007 10:27:00 PM|lhcathome|Message from server: Not sending work - last request too recent: 725 sec

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01:36 <zombie67> hey tm

01:38 <zombie67> 1)  can't force LHC, it will tell you "too recent"

01:38 <zombie67> 2)  like a hippy, let it happen man...

01:39 <Tank_Master> then how am I to please my ADD?

01:39 <Tank_Master> I gotta press things repeadidly

01:40 <zombie67> a:  mess around with seti

01:40 <Tank_Master> F seti

01:40 <Tank_Master> they aint up enough ;)

01:40 <Tank_Master> oh, btw

01:40 <zombie67>

01:40 <Romulus> <> (at

01:40 <Tank_Master> Jim's back...

01:40 <zombie67> jim?

01:41 <Tank_Master> with 100 new E6850 Core2 Duo 3.0 GHz

01:41 <Tank_Master> JimV

01:41 <zombie67> dunno jimv

01:41 <Tank_Master> he's up there with MAC

01:41 <zombie67> ah

01:41 <zombie67> a team member?

01:41 <Tank_Master> ya

01:41 <zombie67> got it

01:41 <Tank_Master> he slacked off for a bit with all the new comps

01:42 <zombie67> you tellin' me he was gone for a while, and makes your team *that* much better.

01:42 <Tank_Master> but now that he has them running just right he's asking what projects to run on it ;)

01:42 <Tank_Master> 3 of us said WCG, and no other suggestions so far ;)

01:42 <Tank_Master> 100 dual corse ahould help a touch ;)

01:43 <zombie67> A#2:  WCG race, THEN:  RS, QMC,

01:43 <zombie67> POEM

01:43 <Tank_Master> RC, QMC and RCN are you most active pushes right now

01:43 <Tank_Master> our*

01:44 <zombie67> Q:  how many primes does your team have to its name???

01:44 <zombie67> jim or mac would kill TSP server

01:46 <zombie67> i am starting to get a stiffy about getting my name in the record books.

01:46 <zombie67> that is a stat that lasts for ever

01:46 <Tank_Master> like mine being #1 in renderfarm? ;)

01:46 <zombie67> but poor value vs. something like SIMAP or WCG

01:47 <Tank_Master> being #one in one of the larger projects is quite a feat

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01:48 <zombie67> here is a problem:  I have credits with dead projects.  only older stat sites have records, like BOINCstats

01:48 <Tank_Master> yeah

01:49 <Tank_Master> I can see that being a problem

01:49 <zombie67> for example, mundayweb.  can't find my hashclash stats

01:50 <zombie67> so neither mundayweb or boincstats will carry my full stats

01:50 <Tank_Master> boincstats dosent have your hash?

01:50 <zombie67> mundayweb will carry all the new stuff, bt BS has all the history

01:51 <Tank_Master> boincstats allows you to syink up ID for retiered projects...

01:51 <zombie67> bs has all the history, but wont pick up all the new stuff

01:51 <zombie67> like gerasim

01:52 <zombie67> there is no longer any stat site that can do old and new

01:52 <zombie67> see the problem?

01:52 <Tank_Master> yep

01:53 <zombie67> not to put a downer on it, but...

01:53 <zombie67> you have pride about the dead projects you are #1 in

01:53 <zombie67> due pride

01:54 <Tank_Master> I compleatly understand that

01:54 <zombie67> but, if none of the more liberal projects can pick it up?

01:54 <Tank_Master> if you hadent noticed ;)

01:54 <zombie67> I meant to say liberal stat sites

01:55 <zombie67> oooo!

01:55 <Tank_Master> ?

01:55 <zombie67> here is an idea

01:55 <Tank_Master> run our own project?

01:55 <zombie67> a meta stat sit

01:55 <Tank_Master> stats on stats?

01:56 <zombie67> one that pulls all the stat sites and combines them

01:56 <zombie67> brb

01:59 <zombie67> back

01:59 <Tank_Master> wb

01:59 <zombie67> anywho, make a bazillion on it, and give me 10%

02:00 <Tank_Master> lol

02:00 <zombie67> back to primes.

02:00 <Tank_Master> back to wcg

02:00 <zombie67> ho wmany does the #1 team have?

02:00 <Tank_Master> ?

02:00 <Tank_Master> there any way to tell?

02:00 <zombie67> how many primes have the members of the #1 team found?

02:00 <Tank_Master> I ahevnt even figured out how to tell how ment primes I have...

02:01 <zombie67> the answer is probably 0, and that's sad

02:01 <zombie67> you crunched for PG?

02:01 <Tank_Master> ya

02:01 <Tank_Master> everything

02:01 <Tank_Master> you know that

02:01 <Tank_Master> ;)

02:01 <zombie67> go to your account

02:01 <zombie67> there

02:01 <zombie67> ;)

02:02 <zombie67> scroll to the bottom

02:02 <Tank_Master> Twin Prime Search (n=195000) primes: 11

02:02 <Tank_Master> Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve factors: 420

02:02 <Tank_Master> Prime Sierpinski Project Sieve factors: 64

02:02 <Tank_Master> (for myself)

02:03 <efc> looking for that last twin prime eh

02:03 <efc> big bonus if you find the last one

02:03 <Tank_Master> oh?

02:03 <efc> just kidding ;)

02:04 <zombie67> better way

02:04 <zombie67>

02:04 <Romulus> Title: BOINC Project Directory - PrimeGrid (at

02:04 <efc> it is a long unproven conjecture that there are infinite twin primes

02:05 <zombie67> TM, so me yours

02:05 <zombie67> fag

02:05 <zombie67> ;)

02:05 <Tank_Master> how the?

02:05 <zombie67> go to the url!

02:05 <zombie67> geez

02:05 <Tank_Master> did

02:05 <Tank_Master> now what?

02:05 <zombie67> and?

02:06 <Tank_Master> A signature tailored to show your progress in PrimeGrid's active subprojects (TPS search at n=333,333 and Cullen-Woodall Search). Enter your PrimeGrid account ID below:

02:06 <zombie67> stick in your account #

02:06 <Tank_Master> ahh

02:06 <efc> A Riemann zero search might be an interesting project

02:06 <Tank_Master> and where do I find that?

02:06 <Tank_Master> :P

02:07 <zombie67>

02:07 <zombie67> ;)

02:07 <Soul_keeper>

02:07 <Romulus> Title: Advanced mezzanine card runs Linux (at

02:07 <Tank_Master> all thats listed is the cross-project ID

02:07 <Soul_keeper> hmmm can you run boinc on that ?

02:07 <Soul_keeper> i bet you can

02:07 <Tank_Master>

02:08 <Romulus> Title: BOINC Project Directory - PrimeGrid (at

02:08 <Tank_Master>

02:08 <zombie67> FINALLY!

02:08 <zombie67> started to think you getting slow~

02:08 <Tank_Master> no, just tiered

02:09 <Tank_Master> it IS 11 after all

02:09 <zombie67> hah

02:09 <Tank_Master> was buisy all day with ghosting comps

02:09 <Tank_Master> fun stuff (not really)

02:09 <zombie67>

02:10 <Tank_Master> I have found lots more stuff then you have...

02:10 <zombie67> oh!  reminder:  if you want credit for your primes, you need to go into your project prefs to approve

02:10 <Tank_Master> did that when it first came avalible

02:10 <zombie67> sieve finds NON primes, and removes them

02:11 <zombie67> er it finds factors, or something like that

02:11 <Tank_Master> anywho, im off to bed

02:11 <zombie67> I grok very little of if.  I DO grok finding a prime first gets you in the books!

02:12 <zombie67> night!

02:12 <Tank_Master>

02:12 <Romulus> <> (at

02:12 <zombie67> efc, do it!

02:13 <zombie67> box for $210+tax+S/H

02:14 <zombie67> which mobo?

02:15 <zombie67> freaking awesome price, .....if I was willing to have any new box with less that 8 cores

02:15 <efc> Looks like already done, to some extent.

02:15 <Romulus> Title: ZetaGrid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

02:16 <efc> project like that never really has an end (unless you find a bum zero)

02:16 <zombie67> "was at one time the largest distributed computing project"   I call BS

02:16 <efc> "designed to explore roots of the Riemann ?-function"

02:18 <zombie67> anything not seti or folding claiming to be the largest DC?

02:18 <efc> i think they meant, the largest one working on Riemann

02:19 <zombie67> ah

02:20 <zombie67>

02:20 <Romulus> <> (at

02:25 * efc pioneers the ultimate distributed kW/hr waster: ForLoop@Home

02:32 <zombie67> ForLoop@Home =! google

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02:39 <mweltin> ping yoyo

02:42 <zombie67> yoyo?

02:42 <mweltin> I'm back from dinner wanted to know if yoyo was around.

02:42 <zombie67> he's not on #rechenkraft yet either

02:43 <zombie67> fyi, that is on server

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02:51 <zombie67> you did it how?

02:52 <zombie67>

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04:02 <mweltin> man that was a pain in the ass.

04:03 <mweltin> making apps a preference is not as easy as it seems.

04:26 * ChristmasCoder opens his eyes

04:27 <ChristmasCoder> morning

04:27 <mweltin> hey

04:27 <ChristmasCoder> &weather 45140

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04:27 <ChristmasCoder> &more

04:27 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: the upper 20s. West winds 10 to 15 mph.; Friday - Partly sunny. Highs in the lower 40s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.;

04:27 <efc> moo

04:27 <ChristmasCoder> hey efc

04:28 <ChristmasCoder> and implied hey mweltin

04:28 <mweltin> efc you were here too

04:28 <mweltin> you didn't say a thing.

04:28 <mweltin> I thought it was just me and some nasty code for appfiltering.

04:29 <ChristmasCoder> not Code?

04:29 * efc didn't know he was supposed to say anything

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04:29 <ChristmasCoder> the microphone is always on

04:30 <mweltin> yes code

04:30 <mweltin> not prety code either

04:31 <ChristmasCoder> k0D3

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04:33 <sethy> hey

04:33 <ChristmasCoder> hey sethy

04:34 <mweltin> is it 8am somewhere

04:34 <mweltin> all kinds of poeple just showed up.

04:34 <efc> 4:30 am here

04:34 <ChristmasCoder> sethy is in UK (Leeds, I think)

04:35 <ChristmasCoder> quail is in Adelaide, Australia

04:35 <ChristmasCoder> definitely not the same time zone

04:35 <ChristmasCoder> and 4:33am here

04:36 <sethy> i am uk leeds yus

04:36 * ChristmasCoder high fives Eastern time zoner efc

04:36 <sethy> 9:35 AM here in local time college :D

04:36 <ChristmasCoder> college time is a warped field

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04:37 <ChristmasCoder> a dimension that loops back onto itself

04:37 <PriitM> 11.37AM here

04:37 <clever> 5:37 am here

04:37 <sethy> omg loop holes?

04:37 <sethy> or dark matter?

04:37 <ChristmasCoder> I was stuck in the college casuality loop for 6 years

04:37 <sethy> :(

04:37 <sethy> sports accident?

04:38 <sethy> or you was having fun in science class?

04:38 <clever> if you apply suction to 1 end of a loop what happens?

04:38 <clever> (trick question:P)

04:38 <ChristmasCoder> GPA malfunction

04:38 <sethy> o o o o

04:38 <sethy> the vacum explodes

04:38 <clever> there is no end to the loop:P

04:39 <sethy> there is

04:39 <sethy> think do while loops

04:39 <sethy> :D

04:39 <clever> :P

04:39 <clever> thats not a psysical loop

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04:40 <The_XMas_Turkey> or is it?

04:40 <ChristmasCoder> I guess I need to get something to eat - brb breakfast

04:40 <clever> can you proove the chair your sitting on realy exists?

04:40 <The_XMas_Turkey> ok ttyl cc

04:40 <ChristmasCoder> k

04:40 <The_XMas_Turkey> i can touch it

04:40 <clever> but are you even real?

04:40 <The_XMas_Turkey> yes

04:40 <clever> you could be inside a version of the matrix:P

04:40 <The_XMas_Turkey> i can touch myself

04:40 <quail> g'evening all

04:41 <The_XMas_Turkey> g'evening dale

04:41 <clever> how can you realy proov your not in a virtual enviroment?

04:41 <The_XMas_Turkey> how can YOU prove that your a virtual environment

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04:42 <clever> you could be part of a virtual ant farm on some alien computer:P

04:42 <The_XMas_Turkey> are your molecular sturctures made from dark matter?

04:42 <clever> not as far as i know

04:42 <The_XMas_Turkey> then thats one way to know that we are real and not a simulation

04:42 <The_XMas_Turkey> otherwise that clock there *points* would be a glitch

04:42 * quail enjoying his salad and cold cuts for suppa

04:43 <The_XMas_Turkey> vinegar with that?

04:43 <clever> The_XMas_Turkey: why would it be a glitch?

04:43 <The_XMas_Turkey> because why wouldnt it be?

04:43 <quail> london pub pickled onions are yummy

04:43 <The_XMas_Turkey> in every program there is a glitch

04:43 <The_XMas_Turkey> pickled vinegar even <3

04:44 <The_XMas_Turkey> and wasnt LHC to be powered up like on 26th november? what happened dudes?!

04:45 <clever> we could just be part of the 5mil'th version of the software

04:45 <clever> after most of the glitches are cleaned out

04:46 <The_XMas_Turkey> most yea

04:46 <clever> and who says they wont just format us when they find and fix another:P

04:46 <clever> RESET

04:47 <The_XMas_Turkey> but we have an understanding of the science around us and are created on an atomic level

04:47 <The_XMas_Turkey> unless these 'aliens' are using quasars on a level of quantim dimentionality i dont see how your theosis is possible

04:47 <The_XMas_Turkey> EOF

04:47 <clever> the simulation could simply be simulating things right down to the subatomic level

04:48 <clever> but that would require a massive ammount of computing power relative to what we can do

04:48 <The_XMas_Turkey> easily harvested from the energy emited from a supernova

04:48 <clever> the power itself would be easy

04:48 <clever> the hardware to process all that info though...

04:49 <clever> how many subatomic particles in the planet earth:P

04:49 <clever> (counting the planet and everything on it)

04:49 <The_XMas_Turkey> creating a program for us to make energy for them to use energy would be prety imense

04:49 <The_XMas_Turkey> to say that this program contains a universe of finite size at some stage

04:49 <The_XMas_Turkey> as science goes

04:49 <clever> the stars could simply be a wallpaper hanging at the edge of the simulation:P

04:49 <The_XMas_Turkey> but to our knoledge of understanding infitane size as it is always growing

04:50 <The_XMas_Turkey> so this wallpaper will have to be created to a nanosecondth of an update

04:50 <The_XMas_Turkey> resized

04:50 <The_XMas_Turkey> rotated

04:50 <The_XMas_Turkey> cropped

04:50 <The_XMas_Turkey> and saved

04:50 <clever> lol:)

04:50 <The_XMas_Turkey> eventually imported

04:51 <The_XMas_Turkey> but you are thinking of a high level of understanding in dimentions

04:51 <clever> but then you may be able to also hack the system your inside:P

04:52 <The_XMas_Turkey> thats what hackers do

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04:52 <clever> but i mean aim the hacking at the universe itself:P

04:52 <clever> and be carefull not to bluescreen it:P

04:52 <The_XMas_Turkey> we are like the 1st 7 dimensions of that of which could be a googleplex

04:53 <clever> how many might be right beside us yet not visible to us

04:53 <clever> and things like ghosts could just be leakage between dimensions

04:54 <The_XMas_Turkey> cyber men dude

04:54 <mweltin> wow you guys sure are perky in the morn'n

04:54 <The_XMas_Turkey> and daleks

04:54 <The_XMas_Turkey> its like

04:54 <clever> the sun isnt even up here:P

04:54 <The_XMas_Turkey> almost 10 am

04:54 <The_XMas_Turkey> here

04:54 <clever> its not even 6am

04:54 <The_XMas_Turkey> GMT FTW

04:55 <clever> gmt-4h here:P

04:55 <clever> TZ=AST4

04:56 <ChristmasCoder> perky?

04:56 <The_XMas_Turkey> hay clevur, how old are you?

04:56 * ChristmasCoder drags his sorry mass back into his desk chair

04:56 <ChristmasCoder> yeah, that's me, perky

04:56 <The_XMas_Turkey> black hole?

04:56 <clever> I am 20.728712 years old. (I'll be 21 in 14wks 1day 20hrs 3mins 18secs.)

04:56 <The_XMas_Turkey> mistaken for ass hole

04:57 <The_XMas_Turkey> 16 here :D

04:57 <clever> :)

04:57 <The_XMas_Turkey> still youngest

04:57 * The_XMas_Turkey puts on sunglasses

04:57 <clever> i feel old sometimes

04:57 * ChristmasCoder shuffles his feet

04:57 <clever> memory going

04:57 <ChristmasCoder> er

04:57 <The_XMas_Turkey> WE NEED MORE QUASARS

04:57 <ChristmasCoder> um

04:57 <clever> blew a knee back in jan

04:57 <The_XMas_Turkey> make another

04:57 <ChristmasCoder> I'm a bit older

04:57 <The_XMas_Turkey> a little

04:58 <ChristmasCoder> um yeah

04:58 <ChristmasCoder> my son is 23

04:59 <ChristmasCoder> and let's not get into the memory thing

04:59 <ChristmasCoder> is that what we were talking about?

04:59 <The_XMas_Turkey> no

04:59 <clever> irc has scrollback for a reason:P

04:59 <ChristmasCoder> oh =)

04:59 <The_XMas_Turkey> we was talking about how sexy this looks

04:59 <Romulus> <> (at

05:00 <ChristmasCoder> I don't recall that

05:00 <The_XMas_Turkey> i do

05:00 <The_XMas_Turkey> <ChristmasCoder> yeah, that's me, perky

05:00 <The_XMas_Turkey> :)

05:01 <ChristmasCoder> I thought someone said perky - maybe it was werky

05:01 <ChristmasCoder> but I don't have to go yet

05:01 <The_XMas_Turkey> :)

05:02 <ChristmasCoder> looks like I'm cranking through some LHC WUs

05:02 <ChristmasCoder> one running, five waiting

05:02 <The_XMas_Turkey> LHC HAS WU!?

05:03 <ChristmasCoder> they have been sporadically over the last couple of weeks or so

05:03 <The_XMas_Turkey> i demand WU ID

05:03 <ChristmasCoder> last message: no work from project

05:04 <The_XMas_Turkey> :(

05:04 <ChristmasCoder> last download at 1:13am my time

05:05 <The_XMas_Turkey> and the ID?

05:05 <ChristmasCoder> what?

05:05 <The_XMas_Turkey> nothing

05:05 <ChristmasCoder> the ID of my last download?

05:06 <The_XMas_Turkey> yes

05:06 <ChristmasCoder> lemme look for my bestest pal in Leeds

05:06 <The_XMas_Turkey> :)

05:07 <ChristmasCoder> 12/13/2007 1:13:02 AM|lhcathome|[file_xfer] Started download of file

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05:09 <ChristmasCoder> 1971993

05:09 <The_XMas_Turkey> ty

05:10 <ChristmasCoder> I am computer 37371 on that WU

05:11 <The_XMas_Turkey> Cellutions

05:11 <mweltin> have anyone of you seen a rubiks1220 here recently?

05:11 <The_XMas_Turkey> gtg in 10

05:11 <The_XMas_Turkey> and nope

05:11 <The_XMas_Turkey> what is it?

05:12 <mweltin> he was a guy that was going to help with my project.

05:12 <mweltin> He must have gotten busy with life.

05:12 <The_XMas_Turkey> just ask povaddict

05:12 <The_XMas_Turkey> busy with wife*

05:12 <mweltin> no he was going to do some code for me.

05:12 <The_XMas_Turkey> pov can do it

05:13 <mweltin> he doen't have time.

05:13 <The_XMas_Turkey> bais bais

05:13 <The_XMas_Turkey> class taim

05:13 <mweltin> and I have found there is very little Pov can't do.

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05:27 <ChristmasCoder> off to w@#%

05:28 <mweltin> does anyone know MTughan's real name?

05:28 <ChristmasCoder> Michael is all I know

05:28 <mweltin> I need to update my user table, he made his authorization value public by mistake.

05:28 <mweltin> ok thats a start

05:28 <mweltin> what team is he with?

05:29 <ChristmasCoder> error: request exceeds "all I know" limits

05:29 <ChristmasCoder> cya later mweltin =)

05:30 <mweltin> later

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06:37 <hawmps> 'lo

06:44 <wdsmia> mornin Jay

07:08 <hawmps> 'lo Doug

07:08 <hawmps> &weather 12020

07:08 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 19.5F / -6.9C | Humidity: 65% | Pressure: 30.17in / 1021.6hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Today - Snow. Snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches. Colder with highs in the mid 20s. East winds around 5 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Tonight - Snow likely in the evening...then a chance of snow showers after midnight. Total accumulation of 3 to (2 more messages)

07:08 <hawmps> &more

07:08 <Romulus> hawmps: 6 inches. Lows in the lower 20s. Near steady temperature in the lower 20s. East winds around 5 mph...becoming south after midnight. Chance of snow 60 percent.; Friday - Mostly cloudy with a chance of snow showers in the morning...then partly sunny in the afternoon. Not as cool with highs in the upper 30s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 40 percent.; Snow Advisory for Saratoga County in (1 more message)

07:08 <hawmps> &more

07:08 <Romulus> hawmps: effect until 12:00 AM EST on December 14, 2007;

07:09 <hawmps> hmmm..

07:09 <hawmps> did you write your +24hr idle script?

07:54 <wdsmia> not yet will have to work on it this weekend

07:54 <wdsmia> &weather 50265

07:54 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 27F / -3C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. High in the lower 30s. West wind 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy until early morning then becoming mostly cloudy. Colder. Low 10 to 15. Northwest wind around 10 mph.; Friday - Mostly cloudy. High in the lower 20s. North wind 5 to (1 more message)

07:54 <wdsmia> &more

07:54 <Romulus> wdsmia: 10 mph.;

07:55 <wdsmia> well off to W@#$

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08:21 <Bad_At_Home> morning

08:21 <Bad_At_Home> &weather 86046

08:21 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Temperature: 11.5F / -11.4C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 23.65in / 800.8hPa | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 3.1mph / 5.0km/h ; Today - Partly cloudy. Areas of dense fog in the morning...patchy fog in the afternoon. Highs around 39. Light winds.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A 10 percent chance of snow showers after midnight. No snow accumulation. Lows 15 to 21. Light winds.; (1 more message)

08:21 <Bad_At_Home> &more

08:21 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Friday - Partly cloudy. A 10 percent chance of snow showers in the morning. No snow accumulation. Highs 31 to 37. Light winds becoming north around 15 mph late in the afternoon.;

08:28 <hawmps> hi

08:30 <PriitM_> hallo

08:51 * ChristmasCoder ducks in quickly

08:51 <hawmps> quack...

08:51 <ChristmasCoder> morning hawmps

08:51 <ChristmasCoder> hey PriitM_

08:51 <PriitM_> hallos

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08:52 <ChristmasCoder> rain rain rain

08:52 <ChristmasCoder> but at least it's not ice

08:52 <ChristmasCoder> they're saying a couple inches of snow on Saturday

08:53 <ChristmasCoder> anywayzzz - just wanted to say hi - back to w@#%ing for the man

08:53 <hawmps> 3-5 here today, could be 12-24" by the weekend..

08:54 <ChristmasCoder> ack

08:54 <hawmps> uh-huh

08:54 <ChristmasCoder> I saw the forecast for up your way - looks like a challenge

08:55 <ChristmasCoder> have a great day - later all

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09:43 <PovAddict> depspid oow?

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10:12 <BadBarbarian> morning POV

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11:26 <hawmps> SNOW!

11:36 <BadBarbarian> lol you can have some of ours if you wast

11:36 <BadBarbarian> want

11:39 * Tank_Master_ wants snow

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13:42 <snarfer> Hello, Romulus

13:51 <hawmps> 'lo there

13:53 <snarfer> hello.

13:54 <snarfer> I've lost my account key

13:54 <PovAddict> what project?

13:54 <snarfer> where can I grab it again?

13:55 <snarfer> SETI.USA

13:55 <PovAddict> SETI.USA is a team... but I'll assume you mean the seti project

13:56 <PovAddict> go to, enter your email address on the first box and click OK

13:56 <PovAddict> the account key will be mailed to you

13:58 <snarfer> wonderful, thanks.

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14:04 <hawmps> somebody pushed the "easy button"

14:05 <BadBarbarian> lol

14:06 <snarfer> damn, boinc_client keeps rejecting my key.

14:06 <PovAddict> you shouldn't be using the account key to attach, use email+password

14:06 <PovAddict> what boinc version are you using?

14:07 <snarfer> 4.72.20050813-r3

14:07 <PovAddict> well, note that long number is a date...

14:07 <snarfer> though, I should update it

14:08 <PovAddict> your client is exactly two years and four months old

14:08 <snarfer> hence, the re-emerge

14:08 <PovAddict> put it in a museum or something

14:08 <snarfer> sci-misc/setiathome emerged that version

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14:08 <mweltin> &seen Mtughan

14:08 <Romulus> mweltin: Mtughan was last seen in #boinc 14 hours and 34 seconds ago: <MTughan> &nn all

14:14 <hawmps> that client is far too old to be of much use..

14:14 <PovAddict> mweltin: I /msg'd you

14:17 <mweltin> got it

14:17 <mweltin> that's an md5 right?

14:17 <PovAddict> yes but it's an md5 of a random number, so it doesn't really matter

14:17 <PovAddict> it could as well be random hex characters

14:18 <PovAddict> change it to an md5 of random data (your keyboard and fingers can help generate that)

14:18 <mweltin> how sure are you about his username?

14:19 <mweltin> its right on

14:19 <mweltin> I can see his email addr.

14:19 <PovAddict> well, check if his auth matches the one he accidentally published

14:19 <mweltin> I don't know where the logs are

14:20 <mweltin> thats the one

14:22 <mweltin> ok it's done.  Let him know if you see him.

14:23 <mweltin> I have to go to a zoneing board meeting about my business license.

14:23 <mweltin> Of course no one has called and told me where it is or when it is for that matter.

14:23 <PovAddict> ah cool

14:23 <PovAddict> not

14:25 <mweltin> yeah its seems like with a lot of stuff you just have to know.  No one is going to tell you.

14:26 <mweltin> Like plain tickets, you have to call a day ahead to make sure you have a seat.

14:26 <mweltin> they always over sell the plane because so many people never show up.

14:26 <mweltin> but no one tells you to call.

14:26 <mweltin> you just find out when you try to check-in that that is the way it's done.

14:28 <mweltin> I finally got branching done in svn

14:28 <mweltin> now I have to figure out merges

14:34 <snarfer> okay, I've definitely lost my key.

14:34 <snarfer> not good.

14:34 <PovAddict> did you get a decently-new client?

14:36 <snarfer> I lost my hard drive recently, so that will attribute to it

14:36 <snarfer> BRB

14:36 <PovAddict> can you login there?

14:36 <Romulus> Title: Please log in (at

14:38 <snarfer> yep, I sure can

14:38 <PovAddict> so you already have a password

14:38 <snarfer> yep.

14:38 <PovAddict> you should use that password to attach, not the account key

14:39 <mweltin> well no meeting

14:39 <mweltin> they didn't have a quorum

14:39 <mweltin> no one tells you anything.

14:39 <snarfer> I'm not using a gui here, I'm using the init script

14:39 <snarfer> provided by the emerge

14:39 <mweltin> and the territorial planning commisssion is not going to meet for 3 more weeks

14:52 <mweltin> I'm off to mess with my Xorg settings

14:52 <mweltin> buy

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14:59 <snarfer> I have boinc 5.8.15 installed, but I don't have any window manager, so how can I manage my boinc daemon? if I use /etc/init.d/boinc attach, it asks for url and a key

14:59 <PovAddict> using boinccmd

14:59 <PovAddict>

14:59 <Romulus> Title: BoincCmd - BOINC - Trac (at

15:00 <hawmps> it's 'run_manager'

15:00 <PovAddict> "...but I don't have any window manager..."

15:00 <hawmps> without a window manager.... what's the point?

15:01 <snarfer> um, daemonize it on a server?

15:01 <hawmps> that's like using a rotary telephone....

15:02 <snarfer> but it works.

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15:11 <mweltin> TANK!

15:11 <PovAddict> hey TM

15:11 <PovAddict> (3:57:40) zombie67: a meta stat sit

15:11 <PovAddict> (3:57:52) Tank_Master: stats on stats?

15:11 <PovAddict> (3:58:09) zombie67: one that pulls all the stat sites and combines them

15:11 <PovAddict> FYI: gives or used to give those

15:11 <Romulus> Title: BOINC Combined Statistics (at

15:12 * mweltin things stats on stats? where will it end?

15:12 <mweltin> thinks*

15:13 <PovAddict> netsoft used to provide huge xml files with stats merged from all projects

15:13 <PovAddict> maybe still does, haven't checked

15:13 <Tank_Master> mw!

15:13 <Tank_Master> Im on a new modum ;)

15:13 <hawmps> I like the simple stats/signature

15:13 <Tank_Master> dosent really seem any different yet ;)

15:14 <Tank_Master> anywho, ill bbl

15:14 <PovAddict> hawmps: that big xml was for use from other (lazier) stats sites who don't want to get data from each project and process themselves

15:16 <hawmps> yup..

15:16 <hawmps> the only stats I care about anymore is my own...

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15:21 <mweltin> man I do a windows update and a day later my box crashes for no reason?

15:21 <mweltin> are they related, I'll let you decide.

15:25 <mweltin> what svn command shows the contents of a repository?

15:25 <mweltin> or do I just read the log?

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16:08 <xcamel> re-hi

16:09 <mweltin> hey

16:11 <mweltin> will the workunit C api allow me to avoid making a workunit file and then copying it.  Ok that was as clear as mud.

16:11 <mweltin> right now I have a work generator that makes a bunch of xml files.

16:12 <mweltin> and then it calls a php scirpt which in turn calls

16:12 <mweltin> bin/dir_hier_path

16:12 <mweltin> and then the create_work script.

16:21 <xcamel> wow... roads are a mess...

16:21 <xcamel>

16:21 <Romulus> <> (at

16:24 <mweltin> how is your car x?

16:24 <mweltin> your daughter ok I assume.

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16:32 <freelarry> dang - what is it with m$ updates - just did this machine yesterday and now another 8 updates?

16:32 <mweltin> yoyo!

16:33 <mweltin> I didn't get news ones but my box crashed after the ones from a day ago.

16:33 <mweltin> yoyo how did you impliement app selection?

16:33 <mweltin> I got it working but its not very nice.

16:33 <freelarry> yuck - had one machine crash then it got another batch of updates right after

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16:34 * yoyo[RKN] is drunken

16:34 <mweltin> what?

16:34 <yoyo[RKN]> to much cristmas parties

16:34 <mweltin> ahhhh

16:34 <mweltin> good times

16:35 <mweltin> isn't there a law about drinking at the keyboard?  or is that just driving?

16:35 <yoyo[RKN]> I drunk before entering the keybora

16:35 <yoyo[RKN]> d

16:35 <yoyo[RKN]> you must implement app selection in

16:37 <ChristmasCoder> a quick hi

16:37 <mweltin> ok I did that but the big problem was that

16:37 <mweltin> the parsers can't distinguish two identical tags.

16:38 <ChristmasCoder> going to the hospital to pick up my mom and take her home; my sister "woke up" today and asked how long she had been "asleep"

16:38 <mweltin> <app_id>1</app_id> and <app_id>2</app_id>

16:38 <ChristmasCoder> we had to tell her that she had been out of it for a week

16:38 <mweltin> take care ChristmasCoder

16:39 <ChristmasCoder> thanks - I appreciate the support here

16:39 <mweltin> wow I hope she is alright now.

16:39 <ChristmasCoder> later on...

16:39 <mweltin> bye

16:39 <ChristmasCoder> this is a good sign, obviously

16:39 <ChristmasCoder> bye for now

16:39 <yoyo[RKN]> what is your mil adress mweltin

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16:49 <mweltin> geees

16:50 <yoyo[RKN]> mweltin : I sen you an email

16:50 <mweltin> i tried to get $prefs->appid[] syntax to work for hours.  I ended up giving up.

16:50 <yoyo[RKN]> +d

16:52 <mweltin> parse_next_element !!!

16:52 <mweltin> nice

16:52 <yoyo[RKN]> your problem sounded familiar to me ;)

16:53 <mweltin> mine is just a cludge, this is nice, lots of commented out stuff.

16:57 <mweltin> yoyo[RKN], how does that parse_next_element work?

16:57 <mweltin> you pass it the entire contents of the proj_prefs everytime.

16:57 <mweltin> $prefs_xml

16:57 <yoyo[RKN]> yes

16:57 <yoyo[RKN]> hicks

16:58 <yoyo[RKN]> think it searches the next element from where it was before

16:59 <mweltin> I saw that function in but didn't know how to use it.

16:59 <mweltin> I like your solution

16:59 <mweltin> cleaner than mine.

17:00 <mweltin> thanks for sharing

17:00 <yoyo[RKN]> u r welcome

17:02 <mweltin> yoyo do you use the C api for creating workunits?

17:02 <mweltin> I was posting a question here earlier.

17:02 <MTughan> Ah, so you reset the authentication then?

17:02 <mweltin> MTughan, yes

17:02 <mweltin> did that a few hours ago.

17:02 <MTughan> Thanks.

17:02 <mweltin> thank you.

17:02 <yoyo[RKN]> no

17:02 <yoyo[RKN]> I'm using the create_work tool

17:04 <MTughan> All right, reattached.

17:04 <Tank_Master> yo yoyo

17:04 <Tank_Master> sup?

17:04 <BadBarbarian> everything fixed now tank

17:05 <mweltin> I have a program that creates files, then calls another app that calls bin/dir_heir_something_something and then create_work.

17:05 <mweltin> If I could avoid that with the C api it would stream line the process a lot.

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17:20 <xcamel> 7.5" of snow...

17:20 <yoyo[RKN]> &weather brlin

17:20 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Error: Could not find weather information.  (This may be a bug. If you think it is, please file a bug report at < acker/?func=add&group_id=58965&atid=489447>.)

17:21 <yoyo[RKN]> &weather berlin

17:21 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 37°F / 3°C | Humidity: 70% | Pressure: 30.71in / 1040hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h | Updated: 10:50 PM CET; Scattered Clouds. High:41 F. / 5 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:30 F. / -1 C.; Overcast. High:37 F. / 3 C.; Overcast. Low:32 F. / 0 C.; Clear. High:35 F. / 2 C.; Clear. Low:24 F. / -4 C.;

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17:23 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

17:23 <Tank_Master> &more

17:23 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 42.0F / 5.6C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 30.38in / 1028.7hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Areas of fog in the morning. Areas of dense freezing fog with visibility one quarter mile or less until around 11 am PST. Mostly cloudy with a slight chance of light drizzle. Highs 40 to 45. Light wind.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a (1 more message)

17:23 <Romulus> Tank_Master: chance of rain. Lows 30 to 35. Light wind.; Friday - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of rain in the morning... then a chance of rain in the afternoon. Highs 40 to 45. Light wind becoming south 10 to 15 mph in the afternoon.;

17:23 <Tank_Master> its still foggy

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17:41 <xcamel> well... it looks pretty out...

17:42 <xcamel> but the big storm will be here this weekend...

17:45 <Tank_Master> big storms are fun

17:45 <Tank_Master> keeps things interesting

17:57 <wdsmia> re-hi

18:00 <xcamel> 'lo Doug

18:01 <wdsmia> looks like your getting what we had a few days ago

18:01 <wdsmia> You can have it lol

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18:04 <xcamel> another hour and the snow will be done..

18:05 <wdsmia> It got above freezing for a few hr's today

18:06 <wdsmia> really helped the streets... but didnt do a thing for my driveway :(

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18:18 <xcamel> supposed to go up to like 36 tomorrow... makes for a nice slushy mess..

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18:25 * Tank_Master likes slushys

18:27 <xcamel> lol

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18:33 <mweltin> getting the hang of svn merge, starting to get a nice repo tree with a stable trunk.

18:37 <mweltin> PovAddict, is the opaque patch for the create_work command in the C api creat_work function?

18:56 <PriitM_> &weather Tallinn'

18:57 <PriitM_> &weather Tallinn

18:57 <Romulus> PriitM_: Error: Could not find weather information.  (This may be a bug. If you think it is, please file a bug report at < acker/?func=add&group_id=58965&atid=489447>.)

18:57 <Romulus> PriitM_: Temperature: 19°F / -7°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 30.63in / 1037hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h | Updated: 1:50 AM EET; Scattered Clouds. High:32 F. / 0 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:26 F. / -3 C.; Clear. High:33 F. / 1 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:30 F. / -1 C.; Partly Cloudy. High:35 F. / 2 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:30 F. / -1 (1 more message)

18:57 <mweltin> yoyo?

18:58 <mweltin> read_file_malloc ? is that a boinc thing?

18:58 <MTughan> Sounds like it allocates memory for reading a file.

18:59 <mweltin> but its not a standard function I dont think.

18:59 <mweltin> util.C may hae the answer

18:59 <mweltin> nope

19:00 <mweltin> genworktemplate.cpp:30: error: `read_file_malloc' undeclared (first use this function)

19:00 <mweltin> I'm trying to use the C api for work generation.

19:00 <mweltin> as usuall I'm not smart enough to apply the wiki example code.

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19:04 <MTughan> 'lo e

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19:07 <mweltin> Your a coder righ MTughan ?

19:07 <MTughan> Mostly.

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19:08 <efc> hey

19:08 <mweltin> do you know if the patch to allow for the -opaque switch for command line workunit generation made it into the C api for the function creat_work?

19:08 <MTughan> No idea. I don't follow the C API for BOINC.

19:09 <mweltin> ok

19:09 <mweltin> thanks

19:10 <xcamel> hay

19:10 <BadBarbarian> re hi

19:11 <mweltin> bad!

19:13 <MTughan> mweltin: Do you know where popParser() is?

19:13 <xcamel> move cats and coffee away from your keyboard....

19:13 <MTughan> lol

19:13 <xcamel> ^

19:13 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Al Qaeda Musical Jihad 2 (at

19:13 <xcamel> fairly short..

19:14 <MTughan> Oh, I guess it's in popParser.cpp... :P

19:16 <mweltin> what is? oh yeah

19:16 <mweltin> sorry

19:16 <MTughan> Trying to compile GA just for test.

19:16 <mweltin> cool

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19:16 <MTughan> I'm getting undefined symbols from MersenneTwister though...

19:16 <mweltin> I just merged my changes from branches/mweltin today.

19:16 <xcamel> good take on KDE4/rc2 >>

19:17 <xcamel>

19:17 <Romulus> <> (at

19:18 <MTughan> MTRand::randExc()

19:18 <MTughan> MTRand::randInt(unsigned long const&)

19:18 <mweltin> they are there.

19:18 <mweltin> when was your last update?

19:18 <MTughan> I know.

19:18 <MTughan> I just updated a few minutes ago.

19:18 <mweltin> ok

19:19 <MTughan> Last update to MersenneTwister I got was at revision 38.

19:19 <MTughan> I've compile BruteForce with that.

19:19 <MTughan> compiled*

19:23 <MTughan> There we go... You have to #include MersenneTwister.cpp in GAClass.cpp too.

19:23 <mweltin> you need it

19:23 <MTughan> Because the functions are inline.

19:24 <mweltin> yes

19:24 <mweltin> I don't like it but not much I can do about it.

19:24 <MTughan> The copy I have didn't include that.

19:24 <MTughan> I have no previous revisions of GAClass.cpp.

19:24 <mweltin> why don't you update the entire trunk.

19:25 <MTughan> Sure.

19:25 <mweltin> I'm trying to make it so that will always build.

19:25 <mweltin> I made a branches/mweltin where I do all my dev work now.

19:25 <MTughan> So is there anything different I have to do to update then?

19:26 <mweltin> no trunk should be good.

19:26 <Soul_keeper> yo

19:26 <mweltin> I just built everything in it an hour ago.

19:26 <mweltin> seemed to work fine for me.

19:26 <MTughan> Committed.

19:26 <MTughan> I don't know maybe your version keeps the inline functions in memory.

19:26 <mweltin> you shouldn't have had to commit it.

19:26 <MTughan> Hmm?

19:27 <MTughan> Sorry, I still don't have that much experience with SVN.

19:27 <mweltin> its ok not worries.

19:27 <mweltin> that is what revert is for.

19:28 <MTughan> My update shouldn't hurt other systems though.

19:30 <mweltin> just did a diff between rev 46 and 47 on ga.cpp

19:30 <mweltin> no diff's

19:30 <MTughan> GAClass.cpp.

19:31 <mweltin> but its slow as death

19:31 <mweltin> how big is the popsize?

19:31 <MTughan> Popsize?

19:32 <mweltin> population size

19:32 <MTughan> I don't know.

19:32 <mweltin> it was 10k

19:32 <mweltin> that is why it looked so slow

19:32 <MTughan> What population size are we looking at here?

19:32 <mweltin> I was going to make it something huge and then do a million generations.

19:33 <mweltin> I was going to make big WU's out of it.

19:33 <mweltin> 3hr on a 1.3GHz

19:33 <MTughan> That's big?

19:33 <mweltin> 3 times bigger than what I have now.

19:34 <MTughan> I have E@H WUs that take 16 hours on a 2.0GHz, and apparently CPDN WUs take a couple weeks.

19:34 <mweltin> I can make it bigger.

19:34 <mweltin> I think a day is long enough.

19:37 <mweltin> ok maybe you can help me through this

19:37 <MTughan> Anyway, GA compiles here. Both for Intel and PPC.

19:37 <MTughan> All right...

19:37 <mweltin> /home/mweltin/tspsrc/GA/genworktemplate.cpp:14: undefined reference to `DB_WORKUNIT::DB_WORKUNIT(DB_CONN*)'

19:38 <mweltin> sweet!

19:38 <mweltin> thanks MTughan nice work.

19:38 <MTughan> Do you know where DB_WORKUNIT is?

19:38 <mweltin> nope

19:39 <MTughan> Are you linking against boinc_api and boinc?

19:39 <mweltin> yup

19:40 <mweltin> it coudl be one of those order deals in the link line

19:40 <MTughan> Maybe.

19:41 <mweltin> doesn't look it.

19:41 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at

19:42 <MTughan> Could be. Try putting genworktemplate.cpp at the end.

19:43 <mweltin> I tried that, as well as the relative position between mysql and the boinc_db stuff.

19:43 <mweltin> sched/sched_config.C:int SCHED_CONFIG::parse(FILE* f) {

19:43 <MTughan> Looking at mine though, the to-be-compiled file is before the -l flags.

19:44 <mweltin> so one of the undefined refs is in sched_config.C

19:44 <mweltin> but wouldn't that end up in libboinc.a or libboinc_api.a ?

19:44 <MTughan> Hold on...

19:46 <MTughan> Found where DB_WORKUNIT is declared.

19:46 <mweltin> where

19:46 <MTughan> And you did find where SCHED_CONFIG is declared.

19:46 <mweltin> boinc_db.h?

19:46 <mweltin> yes

19:46 <mweltin> sched_config.h

19:46 <MTughan> I don't know what file, but boinc_db.h and boinc_db.C.

19:47 <MTughan> Yeah.

19:47 <mweltin> and both header files are included

19:47 <MTughan> That's just where the classes are declared, not where the source is.

19:48 <mweltin> true

19:48 <MTughan> Unfortunately, this doesn't help either.

19:48 <Romulus> <> (at

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19:50 <mweltin> "BOINC's library provides the functions:"  download_path and create_work

19:50 <mweltin> two undefined ref's

19:55 <MTughan> Do you know how I can redirect all output (stdout and stderr) to a file?

19:55 <mweltin> this build environment is strange.

19:55 <mweltin>   command > filename

19:55 <mweltin> oh

19:55 <mweltin> ahhhh

19:55 <MTughan> That's just stedout.

19:55 <mweltin> its some thing crazy liek 1&2 > filename

19:55 <mweltin> I foreget hold on a sec

19:55 <xcamel> you guys just code too much,...

19:56 <MTughan> lol

19:56 <mweltin> 2>&1 | tee -a BuildError.log

19:56 <MTughan> tee -a?

19:56 <mweltin> the tee will let you see the stdout as it goes by

19:56 <MTughan> Oh, I don't care about that.

19:56 <MTughan> Actually, might be helpful...

19:57 <mweltin> skip the pipe to tee then.

19:57 <mweltin> I use that for my makefiles sometimes.

19:57 <mweltin> i only check the BuildError.log if I see an error that goes by too fast.

19:57 <MTughan> What I'm doing is rebuilding the BOINC libraries, see if I can track boinc_db.

19:58 <mweltin> good call

19:58 <mweltin> I rebuilt the tools dir which has the create_work.C

19:58 <mweltin> and didn't see anything special in it.

19:59 <MTughan> Um...

19:59 <MTughan> It's not there.

19:59 <MTughan> That might explain some stuff.

19:59 <MTughan> boinc_db and sched_config are not there.

19:59 <mweltin> boincsrc/tools make create_work

19:59 <mweltin> yeah huh

20:00 <mweltin> I don't get that.

20:00 <mweltin> but there is a -lsched

20:02 <mweltin> opp that was it I think

20:02 <mweltin>

20:02 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at

20:03 <mweltin> someday I have to go back and fix all these makefiles

20:03 <mweltin> I need to use the gnu buildtools

20:03 <mweltin> get a and the files going.

20:04 <mweltin> a little automake action and then boom.  all the --with  and --enable stuff will work fine.

20:04 <mweltin> should make building debug versions, and otptimized version easy.

20:05 <mweltin> but first the ga work generator and some eye candy on the map page.

20:10 <MTughan> Is it working now?

20:11 <mweltin> I just got it compile.  I don't like to put too much effort into it before I test a build.

20:11 <MTughan> But it compiled?

20:11 <mweltin> so working is a reach, but yes it compiled.

20:12 <MTughan> Better than before. Just got my libsched compiled too. For some reason it wouldn't pick up MySQL.

20:12 <mweltin> I just saw xcamles remark "you guys code too much"

20:12 <MTughan> Even though I gave it the location of the config program. >_>

20:14 <mweltin> I'm going to use that quantum random number generator serivce for this

20:14 <MTughan> brb

20:22 <MTughan> Oh, darn it. Newer computer, and Apple doesn't bother to make SATA hot-swappable. >_>

20:22 <MTughan> Even the computer I have already (3 yrs) is an exception that it didn't support hot-swapping SATA.

20:23 <mweltin> seems behind the times.

20:24 <mweltin> waht is the opposite of sscanf

20:24 <MTughan> sprintf?

20:24 <mweltin> sprintf or s

20:24 <mweltin> yeah

20:24 <mweltin> cool

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20:27 <mweltin> what does rand() produce ? float, int ?

20:29 <xcamel> gold coins from south africa...

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20:31 <mweltin> there is a geko so small in my window he looks transparent.

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20:31 <mweltin> there is a geko so small in my window he looks transparent.

20:31 <MTughan> I don't know what happened there, but I'm not amused.

20:31 <Bad_At_Home_> ok

20:31 <Bad_At_Home_> ok

20:31 <Bad_At_Home_> lol

20:31 <mweltin> that was for MTughan benefit

20:32 <MTughan> What, the gecko thing?

20:32 <Bad_At_Home_> lol

20:32 <Bad_At_Home_> yes you pinged out on the first one lol

20:32 <mweltin> yeah

20:33 <Bad_At_Home_> [18:30] * MTughan ( Quit ( Read error: 113 (No route to host) )

20:33 <MTughan> Yeah, my computer just shut off while I was replacing the batter.

20:33 <MTughan> battery*

20:33 <xcamel> ouch..

20:33 <Bad_At_Home_> 'lo Xcamel

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20:42 <mweltin> why is everything harder than I think it's going to be.

20:43 <mweltin> am I just that much of an optimist, that I don't even know it?

20:43 <Bad_At_Home_> Its Called Murphy's law

20:44 <mweltin> yeah, expcpet it's not going wrong, so much as I have no idea what I'm doing.

20:44 <Bad_At_Home_> lol

20:44 <Bad_At_Home_> hows your weather out there in the middle of the ocean

20:45 <mweltin> how do you stop a mysql query without hitting ctrl-C

20:45 <mweltin> mmmmmmmmmmm lets see

20:45 <mweltin> high of 85 low of 75 chance of showers.

20:45 <mweltin> that is just a guess

20:45 <Bad_At_Home_> we were -10 f yesterday at dawn

20:45 <mweltin> &weather 96799

20:45 <Romulus> mweltin: Temperature: 78F / 26C | Humidity: 66% | Pressure: 30.14in / 1021hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 22mph / 35km/h ; Today - Occasional showers with isolated thunderstorms. Highs in the mid 80s. Variable winds 10 mph...with higher gusts in showers.; Tonight and Thursday - Scattered showers with isolated thunderstorms. Lows near 80. High near 90. Variable winds 10 (1 more message)

20:46 <mweltin> I was off 5 degrees with the high low

20:46 <Bad_At_Home_> a little windy

20:46 <mweltin> its more or less the same everyday.

20:46 <Bad_At_Home_> &weather 86046

20:46 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home_: Temperature: 20.5F / -6.4C | Humidity: 78% | Pressure: 23.54in / 797.1hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Patchy fog in the evening. A 10 percent chance of snow after midnight. No snow accumulation. Lows 14 to 20. Light winds.; Friday - Partly cloudy. A 10 percent chance of snow in the morning. No snow accumulation. Highs 32 to (1 more message)

20:46 <mweltin> you can always go to the leaward side of the island.

20:46 <MTughan> &more mweltin

20:46 <Romulus> MTughan: mph.; Friday and Saturday - Occasional showers. Highs in the upper 80s. Lows near 80. Variable winds 10 mph.;

20:46 <Bad_At_Home_> &more

20:46 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home_: 38. Light winds becoming north around 15 mph in the afternoon.; Friday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows 11 to 17. Light winds.;

20:46 <mweltin> HAHAHAAHAHAAHAh

20:46 <mweltin> you don't even have any degrees, you have -6

20:47 <MTughan> I see -6.4C.

20:47 <MTughan> With a degree symbol in there.

20:47 <mweltin> that sucks

20:47 <xcamel> cold enough

20:47 <Bad_At_Home_> 18 inches of snow on the ground

20:48 <mweltin> go Flames!

20:48 <Bad_At_Home_> got my quad ordered hope it gets here before christmas

20:48 <mweltin> that was also for MTughan benefit.

20:49 <MTughan> The Calgary Flames?

20:49 <mweltin> the one and only

20:49 <MTughan> Heh, I don't really follow the NHL anymore.

20:49 <Bad_At_Home_> i have been to calgary

20:49 <MTughan> And I'm in Toronto.

20:50 <mweltin> the flames and the Nordiques (sp?) are the only teams I know, adn I can't spell nordiques.

20:50 <MTughan> The Nordiques?

20:50 <MTughan> Was that a team from Quebec?

20:50 <Bad_At_Home_> they have the senators

20:50 <MTughan> That's Ottawa.

20:50 <Bad_At_Home_> habs

20:50 <MTughan> Montreal.

20:50 <mweltin> Montreal

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20:51 <Bad_At_Home_> lol he said qurbec

20:51 <Bad_At_Home_> howdt quail

20:51 <mweltin> lol

20:51 <Bad_At_Home_> howdy

20:51 <MTughan> The Canadian teams are: Vancouver Canucks, Edmonton Oilers, Calgary Flames, Toronto Maple Leafs, Ottawa Senators, and Montreal Canadiens (Habs).

20:51 <MTughan> 'lo quail

20:51 <mweltin> hey quail

20:52 <Bad_At_Home_> i think its good morning there

20:52 <mweltin> ok time for a break

20:52 <mweltin> gonna go walk the dog and chill by the beach.

20:53 <Bad_At_Home_> whats your time MW

20:53 <mweltin> 3ish SST

20:53 <MTughan> Ah, so iStat Menus does have the right time.

20:54 <mweltin> later guys, I'll be back to finish up my work generator.

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21:01 <xcamel> lol - we call them "kabukis"

21:01 <xcamel> the rest of canada - 'normals'

21:01 <xcamel> :-)

21:04 <quail> xcamel: hey Jay, 1/5 of Kangaroo Island is burnt and the fire still raging on :-(

21:06 <quail> and they might be calling in the military soon to evac people

21:08 <xcamel> ouch..

21:08 <xcamel> no rain in sight?

21:08 <Bad_At_Home_> Sorry to see Hear that quail

21:09 <quail> xcamel maybe tonight there be rain but I not think it will be enough tho

21:10 <wdsmia> BURP!

21:10 <quail> Bad_At_Home_: howdy, how are things

21:10 <xcamel> no marine moisture layer either?

21:10 <Bad_At_Home_> good 18 inches of snow here

21:10 <quail> hi Doug

21:11 <wdsmia> *lo quail

21:11 <wdsmia> Sorry, not the project just 3 mega burritos

21:11 <MTughan> lol

21:11 <Bad_At_Home_> ow

21:11 <MTughan> 'lo Doub

21:11 <MTughan> Boug*

21:11 <MTughan> Doug**

21:11 <quail> wdsmia: where mine :-P

21:11 <MTughan> You know what I mean... :P

21:11 <wdsmia> lol

21:11 <ChristmasCoder> back

21:11 <MTughan> 'lo CC

21:12 <wdsmia> wb Don

21:12 <quail> ChristmasCoder: hi Don

21:12 <xcamel> too late for any burritos

21:12 <Bad_At_Home_> 'lo CC

21:12 <ChristmasCoder> howdy

21:12 <MTughan> It's one big reunion party!

21:12 <xcamel> 'lo Don

21:12 <ChristmasCoder> golly - hi everybody =)

21:12 <ChristmasCoder> today is a "good day"

21:12 <quail> :-)

21:13 <xcamel> as in "almost friday" ??

21:13 <ChristmasCoder> when I left, they were moving my sister out of ICU

21:13 * quail on holidays from collage till next year :-)

21:13 <xcamel> that sounds encouraging...

21:13 <ChristmasCoder> she "woke up" this morning

21:13 <quail> ChristmasCoder: that great to hear

21:14 <Bad_At_Home_> Great CC

21:14 <ChristmasCoder> had a thousand questions - where am I? have I missed Christmas? why hsn't anyone visited me?

21:14 <MTughan> lol

21:14 <ChristmasCoder> what day is it?

21:14 <ChristmasCoder> she ahd been "out of it" for about a week

21:15 <ChristmasCoder> had*

21:15 <ChristmasCoder> it was great to talk to her again

21:15 <quail> ChristmasCoder: it great to hear she getting better :-)

21:16 <ChristmasCoder> well, this is a good day - there are good ones and bad ones - let's hope this is a new high level

21:16 <xcamel> hope the recovery time will be short...

21:16 <ChristmasCoder> as far as I'm concerned - we don't need to go back to the bad place

21:17 <ChristmasCoder> actually, she'll be under hospital care for several months probably

21:18 <ChristmasCoder> she'll go for rehabilitation at some point, and then back for surgery on her legs, then rehab again

21:18 <xcamel> they'll have to be mighty careful

21:18 <ChristmasCoder> hopefully we can keep all vital organs up and running

21:18 <ChristmasCoder> they have switched their theory from bacteria to fungus

21:18 * ChristmasCoder shudders

21:19 <ChristmasCoder> I worry about how she met up with that

21:20 <ChristmasCoder> anyway - thanks for the well wishes from everyone

21:20 <ChristmasCoder> I return you to your normal conversation about WUs and weather

21:20 <ChristmasCoder> =)

21:20 <quail> &weather ypad

21:20 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 84°F / 29°C | Humidity: 29% | Pressure: 29.80in / 1009hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h | Updated: 12:30 PM CST; Clear. High:91 F. / 33 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:71 F. / 22 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:86 F. / 30 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:60 F. / 16 C.; Chance of Rain. High:69 F. / 21 C.; Overcast. Low:51 F. / 11 C.;

21:20 <ChristmasCoder> quit bragging

21:20 <Bad_At_Home_> I think you have your christmas present already CC

21:21 <ChristmasCoder> that's a big uh-huh

21:21 <ChristmasCoder> she wants to see my Christmas tree

21:21 <Bad_At_Home_> well drag the thing to the hospital

21:21 <Bad_At_Home_> lol

21:21 <ChristmasCoder> I may have Easter eggs tied on it by then

21:22 <Bad_At_Home_> real tree

21:22 <ChristmasCoder> artificial

21:22 <Bad_At_Home_> cool

21:22 <Bad_At_Home_> dont take it down till she sees it

21:23 <ChristmasCoder> very nice - Spit_theDog helped pick it out when she visited

21:23 <Bad_At_Home_> hav'ent seen spit

21:23 <ChristmasCoder> last year

21:23 <ChristmasCoder> &seen Spit_theDog

21:23 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: Spit_theDog was last seen in #boinc 30 weeks, 1 day, 15 hours, 55 minutes, and 1 second ago: <Spit_theDog> Bye for now all :)

21:24 <ChristmasCoder> she was gone 8 weeks, then that vist

21:24 * ChristmasCoder sighs

21:25 <wdsmia> she hasent even been on the team boards :(

21:25 <ChristmasCoder> no - she's wandered off

21:25 <ChristmasCoder> she had hurt her back, and her boinc fleet was failing

21:26 <wdsmia> she's still crunching 2,422 today

21:26 <xcamel> no answer from her email address either...

21:26 <ChristmasCoder> yeah - I've e-mailed her a couple of times

21:27 <ChristmasCoder> &seen Fairy_Nuff

21:27 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: Fairy_Nuff was last seen in #boinc 49 weeks, 4 days, 0 hours, 45 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <Fairy_Nuff> and good night from here

21:27 <PovAddict> hi

21:27 <ChristmasCoder> that's her Christmas nick

21:27 <ChristmasCoder> speaking of Nics

21:27 <PovAddict> &weather buenos aires

21:27 <MTughan> lol

21:27 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 79°F / 26°C | Humidity: 61% | Pressure: 29.71in / 1006hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 11:00 PM ART; Clear. High:87 F. / 31 C.; Clear. Low:73 F. / 23 C.; Clear. High:82 F. / 28 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:68 F. / 20 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:75 F. / 24 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:62 F. / 17 C.;

21:27 <PovAddict> speaking of bragging

21:27 <ChristmasCoder> hello PovAddict

21:28 <xcamel> you just trying to pi$$ people off, Nic?

21:28 * wdsmia thows frozen slush balls at pov and quail

21:28 <ChristmasCoder> I think xcamel is winning the weather prize

21:28 <PovAddict> snow? I want

21:28 <xcamel> &weather 12074

21:28 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 18.5F / -7.5C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 29.97in / 1014.8hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Overnight - Cloudy. A chance of light snow this evening...then a slight chance of light snow with patchy freezing drizzle. Lows in the lower 20s. East winds around 5 mph...becoming south around 5 mph. Chance of precipitation 30 percent.; Friday - (1 more message)

21:29 <xcamel> &more

21:29 <Romulus> xcamel: Mostly cloudy in the morning...then partly sunny with a chance of rain or snow showers in the afternoon. Not as cool with highs around 40. West winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of precipitation 30 percent.; Friday Night - Partly cloudy. Colder with lows around 9 above. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph...decreasing to around 5 mph after midnight.;

21:29 <ChristmasCoder> brr

21:29 <xcamel> and about 7" of snow

21:29 <ChristmasCoder> good for sales

21:29 <xcamel> and a big frakking storm for the weekend

21:29 <xcamel> not good for sales at all

21:29 <ChristmasCoder> before the storm

21:30 <ChristmasCoder> shovels and snow rakes and salt

21:30 <xcamel> lol

21:30 * quail takes wdsmia to court for the frozen slush ball :-P

21:30 <xcamel> if you say so..

21:30 <ChristmasCoder> but I guess most of your folks there are already equipped

21:30 <Bad_At_Home_> lol Xcamel thats the one that droped 18 inches here in Arizona

21:30 <ChristmasCoder> those things always sell out here

21:30 <xcamel> unless I sold plow trucks..

21:31 <ChristmasCoder> I saw some big ones in NH

21:31 <xcamel> the snow was **very** dry.. therefore very slippery...

21:31 <xcamel> good thing I got the commander serviced today

21:34 <ChristmasCoder> yer gonna need it

21:35 <Soul_keeper> which day is xmas on ?

21:35 <Soul_keeper> the 28th ?

21:35 <MTughan> 25th.

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21:35 <Soul_keeper> thanks

21:44 <ChristmasCoder> well - need to go to bed

21:44 <ChristmasCoder> thanks again folks

21:44 <ChristmasCoder> good night

21:45 <MTughan> Night.

21:47 <Bad_At_Home_> Night

21:51 <xcamel> about time for me to wander off too...

21:52 <xcamel> laterz..

21:52 * xcamel is away: Gone away for now.

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21:52 <MTughan> Bye Jay.

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22:11 <PovAddict> Microsoft just tried to push WGA onto my computer again

22:44 <MTughan> Global notice!

22:44 <MTughan> <christel> [Global Notice] Hi all, Just a quick line to let you know that we are expecting slight disturbance on some of our US routes between 0400 and 0600 hours pacific time (GMT-8) while some emergency maintenance is being performed. While it is a two hour window disruptions should only last for about 10minutes at some point during said window. Expect turbulence. Thank you for using freenode and have a great day!

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