00:03 <zombie67> anyone know anything about NNSIMU (neural networks)?
00:05 <Tank_Master> its a BOINC based project running computational thing-a-ma-giggys
00:05 <zombie67> wankage
00:06 <zombie67> I wonder if maybe it was a test environment for http://www.intelligencerealm.com/aisystem/system.php
00:07 <Tank_Master> what makes you think that?
00:08 <zombie67> read Join the Project section.
00:08 <zombie67> Building a neural network simulator requires ....
00:08 <zombie67> Neural Network Simulations:
00:08 <Tank_Master> ...
00:08 <Tank_Master> true
00:10 <zombie67> TM, you saw the news about a GPU app for seti?
00:10 <zombie67> 98.4k at NQ
00:11 <zombie67> LHC is climbing fast, now up to 34k in WIP
00:11 <Tank_Master> no
00:11 <Tank_Master> I hear people wanting BOINC to use the GPU...
00:11 <Tank_Master> which I agree compleatly...
00:12 <Tank_Master> but I didnt know someone had
00:12 <zombie67> folding uses the GPU.
00:13 <zombie67> LHC hates me. why release all this work when I cannot afford to crunch, as I must?
00:13 <Tank_Master> lol
00:13 <Tank_Master> no doubt
00:14 <Tank_Master> I wonder if crunch3r know anything about this?
00:14 <zombie67> he helps out on lunatics, so I assume so.
00:15 <Tank_Master> would be cool of other projects could start doing something simmiler
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00:28 <MTughan> WTF was that?
00:30 <zombie67> stepped in what?!
00:31 <MTughan> No, I was disconnected.
00:37 <Tank_Master> sorry
01:03 <MTughan> I really need to be off to bed... Night all.
01:05 <Tank_Master> &sleep MT
01:05 <Romulus> Man I'm tired! Time to hit the sack ;)
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01:26 <Tank_Master> mw!
01:27 <mweltin> Tank!
01:27 <Tank_Master> sup!
01:27 <zombie67> mw
01:27 <mweltin> zombie67!
01:28 <mweltin> I see you are at the tsp forum again, thank you.
01:28 <zombie67> heh, never left!
01:28 <Tank_Master> *snort*
01:28 <Tank_Master> for now
01:29 <mweltin> yes, unlike some people in this room.
01:29 <Tank_Master> :)
01:29 <Tank_Master> I never leave, just, sometimes im not here
01:29 <zombie67> I am already back to crunching!
01:31 <zombie67> already has a RAC of 3!
01:31 <mweltin> nice
01:31 <mweltin> that is the box you just added the other day?
01:32 <zombie67> yeah
01:32 <mweltin> wow I have made a lot of work units.
01:33 <mweltin> almost 200k
01:33 <zombie67> odd
01:33 <zombie67> I thought you were just running your script more often
01:33 <Tank_Master> he is now
01:34 <Tank_Master> every 1/2 hr
01:34 <zombie67> and it just topped off the
01:34 <Tank_Master> (crapper)
01:34 <zombie67> hehe
01:34 <zombie67> looking for the work
01:34 <zombie67> word
01:34 <mweltin> I'll have to change the upper limit then
01:34 <Tank_Master> sorry, was on my mind from the other room
01:34 <mweltin> I think its set to 200 or something.
01:35 <mweltin> or run it every 5 min like that guy suggested.
01:35 <mweltin> I should get a system monitor.
01:35 <Tank_Master> just set it to 2m
01:35 <mweltin> something to show average load and stuff like that.
01:35 <Tank_Master> that should be enough of a buffer
01:35 <mweltin> hahahaah
01:40 <zombie67> 200k...is the due date set when generated, or when downloaded?
01:41 <mweltin> when generated
01:41 <mweltin> it's part of the workunit template.
01:41 <zombie67> many could expire before ever downloaded
01:42 <zombie67> how many wu d/l per day?
01:42 <mweltin> each host can only have so man
01:42 <mweltin> I forget
01:42 <mweltin> let me check
01:43 <zombie67> I meant in total for the project: how many wu d/l per day?
01:43 <mweltin> F if I know
01:44 <zombie67> my point: you may have too many. people DL some, just to have them due back in minutes or seconds because they are so old
01:44 <mweltin> I can get a upper bound
01:45 <mweltin> mmmmmmmmm there must be some safe guard for that
01:46 <mweltin> the server abort helps
01:46 <mweltin> the WU takes an hour or so and you have a day to finish it.
01:46 <mweltin> here it is
01:47 <mweltin> max_wus_in_progress is 10
01:47 <mweltin> of course max_wus_to_send is set to 10 as well.
01:47 <mweltin> mother f'er I have to read that config.xml options page again.
01:48 <mweltin> thanks zombie67 big help, it's not like I don't have enough to do already.
01:48 <zombie67> sorry
01:49 <mweltin> hahahaha
01:49 <zombie67> I just recalled SZTAKI got into trouble by having a queue too big
01:49 <mweltin> its ok
01:49 <zombie67> how many active hosts do you have?
01:50 <mweltin> like 1400
01:50 <zombie67> and a normal run time?
01:50 <zombie67> per wu
01:51 <mweltin> about an hour give or take on a 1.3GHz box
01:51 <zombie67> so lets do math
01:51 <zombie67> 200,000 houres of work
01:52 <zombie67> 142 hours/machine
01:52 <zombie67> almost 6 days of work per machine
01:52 <zombie67> assuming they are all 100% on TSP
01:52 <zombie67> which they arent
01:53 <zombie67> but due date is only 5 days out
01:53 <zombie67> many of those 200k will expire
01:54 <mweltin> that was 200k from when I started
01:54 <zombie67> ah!
01:54 <mweltin> let me check the data dase and see how many went out yesterday
01:54 <zombie67> I thought you meant there were 200k in the ready to send queue
01:54 <mweltin> no
01:54 <zombie67> ack!
01:54 <zombie67> sorry
01:54 <mweltin> the "highwater" mark is like 100 or 200
01:55 <zombie67> you and I have been on different discussions.
01:55 <zombie67> I read this all wrong:
01:55 <zombie67> [22:32] <mweltin> wow I have made a lot of work units.
01:55 <zombie67> [22:33] <mweltin> almost 200k
01:58 <mweltin> crap
01:58 <mweltin> I have a time stamp field
01:58 <zombie67> ?
01:59 <mweltin> mysql I can't jus set select everything for 2007-12-23
01:59 <mweltin> I have to give it a range because it uses hours min secs
01:59 <mweltin> there is a way to do what I want but like so many things I forget.
01:59 <mweltin> I think I went to one to many parties when i was younger
02:00 <zombie67> sorry, I know only very minimal db stuff
02:00 <zombie67> anywho, sorry to panic you earlier. If you have only 100-200 ready to dl at any given time, you are golden
02:01 <mweltin> 1518 yesterday
02:02 <mweltin> select count(*) from paths where released >= '2007-12-13 00:00:00' and released <= '2007-12-13 23:59:59';
02:02 <mweltin> if you are curious
02:02 <mweltin> but you can do it with the date format command
02:03 <mweltin> released = format_date() or something
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02:03 <mweltin> like I said I forget.
02:03 <mweltin> yoyo
02:03 <Tank_Master> yo yoyo!
02:03 <zombie67> yoyo! yo!
02:03 <zombie67> jinx
02:03 <yoyo[RKN]> yo morning
02:03 <mweltin> I was able to make one of the changes crunch3r wanted.
02:03 <Tank_Master> ha
02:04 <mweltin> got rid of the use of dirent
02:04 <Tank_Master> you can read what soemone says then say it again for a jink
02:04 <Tank_Master> cant*
02:04 <zombie67> first there wins
02:05 <mweltin> does rom keep track of jinx'es
02:10 <zombie67> "Buffet and Orgy: First Served, First Come" -History of the World Part I
02:11 <mweltin> LOL
02:11 <mweltin> classic movie
02:11 <zombie67> hilarious! my 2nd fav brooks film.
02:11 <zombie67> #3 Space Balls
02:11 <zombie67> guess at #1?
02:12 <zombie67> sorry
02:12 <zombie67> forgot one
02:12 <mweltin> Blazing Saddles?
02:12 <zombie67> HotW is #3
02:12 <zombie67> Sb is #4
02:12 <zombie67> BS is #2!
02:13 <mweltin> High Anxiety
02:13 <zombie67> Mongo only pawn... in game of life.
02:13 <zombie67> nope
02:14 <zombie67> come on...
02:15 <zombie67> nothing?
02:16 <mweltin> young Frankenstine!
02:16 <zombie67> DING!
02:16 <mweltin> we have a winner
02:16 <mweltin> tell him what he won Johnny!
02:16 <zombie67> Fronkensteeen
02:16 <Tank_Master> mmm.. teens
02:16 * Tank_Master likes teems
02:17 <Tank_Master> waa? no responce?
02:18 <zombie67> was that a misspelling?
02:18 <mweltin> sorry went for a snak
02:18 <zombie67> teems of what>
02:18 <zombie67> ?
02:18 <Tank_Master> man o man
02:18 <mweltin> who is on first?
02:18 <Tank_Master> just teens
02:18 <Tank_Master> yes
02:18 <Tank_Master> he was
02:19 <Tank_Master> til what kicked who's @$$
02:20 <mweltin> oh man, I'm reading about html tables vs. css
02:21 <mweltin> some people get very worked up about that.
02:21 <Tank_Master> :P
02:22 <zombie67> Here is the original, which was paraphrased in blazing saddles...
02:22 <zombie67> "Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges! I don't have to show you any stinkin' badges!!" -- Gold Hat, "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre"
02:26 <zombie67> "I love the feminist movement...especially when I'm walking behind it." -- Rush Limbaugh
02:26 <yoyo[RKN]> I want use subversion on windows, what do I need?
02:26 <yoyo[RKN]> any hints?
02:26 <mweltin> sever or client?
02:27 <yoyo[RKN]> client
02:27 <mweltin> tortoiseSVN
02:27 <mweltin> they make a cvs client as well
02:27 <Tank_Master> its buggy though
02:27 <Tank_Master> I had it at times lock a fine in use when it wasnt
02:27 <mweltin> ends up as a menu item when you right click on a directory.
02:27 <Tank_Master> file*
02:27 <mweltin> works fine for me.
02:27 <Tank_Master> I had it at work
02:28 <yoyo[RKN]> will try it
02:28 <mweltin> well it shows the wron icon sometimes
02:28 <Tank_Master> somethine someone couldnt edit a file because it was checked out to them
02:28 <mweltin> but that is the only problem I have had with it.
02:28 <Tank_Master> yet it easnt..
02:28 <mweltin> the whole point of svn is so multiple people can work on a file.
02:29 <mweltin> source safe used to lock files
02:30 <zombie67> how to sabotage windows....
02:30 <zombie67> that is close to corporate treason!
02:30 <mweltin> put it under source safe control
02:32 <zombie67> 99.5k on NQ
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02:34 <mweltin> desk geko is back
02:35 <mweltin> cat almost got him today.
02:36 <Tank_Master> darn
02:36 <Tank_Master> sorry to hear the can isnt doing it's job
02:36 <mweltin> I like the gekos
02:36 <Tank_Master> :)
02:36 <mweltin> its the rats and other stuff I'm not too fond of.
02:40 <zombie67> I have about a dozen blue bellies around my house
02:40 <mweltin> what is that a skink or something?
02:41 <Tank_Master> I dont have any slimmy crawlers around here (except for the slugs)
02:42 <yoyo[RKN]> how to connect now to berkeley?
02:42 <Tank_Master> like most of us these days
02:42 <Tank_Master> we dont
02:42 <mweltin> right click on a dir and select check out
02:43 <yoyo[RKN]> but first I need to configure from which server
02:43 <mweltin> enter the url of the respository
02:43 <mweltin> the url has the server name
02:43 <zombie67> whoops, I've been calling the little lizards around my house the wrong thing
02:43 <mweltin> forget cvs
02:43 <mweltin> no SVNROOT or anything like that.
02:44 <mweltin> yup
02:45 <mweltin> and give the destination a name too, i.e. where it goes on your file system
02:45 <zombie67> oh! maybe not!
02:46 <zombie67> I think this is what they are. I've never turned one over to look. but this is what they look like form the top: http://www.californiaherps.com/identification/lizardsid/sceloporus.sm.id.html
02:48 <mweltin> haha
02:49 <mweltin> well its not a skink or a geko
02:55 <zombie67> yep.. they are "Western fence lizards (swifts or bluebellies) "
02:56 <zombie67> they crawl up the east and south sides on my home to sun themselves.
02:56 <mweltin> here the gekos just eat everything in site.
02:56 <zombie67> my lab's favourite thing was to look for them and try to get 'em!
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02:56 <zombie67> never did
02:57 <zombie67> but she had hours of fun.
02:57 <zombie67> sigh
02:57 <zombie67> i miss her
02:58 <mweltin> did she pass away?
02:59 <zombie67> just this past labor day. tumor in her left rear knee.
03:00 <mweltin> how old was she?
03:00 <zombie67> only 11
03:00 <zombie67> she was not "old" at all
03:00 <mweltin> I'm sorry. That is how old my dog is.
03:00 <zombie67> she was my baby
03:01 <zombie67> thanks
03:01 <mweltin> I'm super attached to my dog.
03:01 <mweltin> he can't do wrong in my eyes.
03:01 <zombie67> it was not the "died in her sleep" I exprected
03:01 <mweltin> well accept chase another dog into the road.
03:01 <zombie67> I had to call the vet to come to my home
03:02 <mweltin> at least she was at home.
03:02 <zombie67> yeah
03:02 <zombie67> Thursday she was limping, and I took her in.
03:02 <zombie67> Monday, I had to call the vet
03:03 <zombie67> it was that fast
03:03 <zombie67> she was in so much pain
03:03 <yoyo[RKN]> how can I compare the latest version with the version before?
03:03 <zombie67> even with doubling the pain meds
03:04 <mweltin> svn diff -r#:# file name
03:04 <mweltin> wow that sucks.
03:04 <mweltin> my last dog went down fast too. She was acting funny for a month or but nothing serious.
03:05 <mweltin> I went to the vet and they said she has cancer and it's all over her body, there is nothing we can do.
03:05 <zombie67> ugh
03:05 <mweltin> I had to put her down right then and there.
03:06 <zombie67> there is no way to prepare
03:06 <efc> they can't say whats wrong to catch anything early :(
03:06 <zombie67> The best doctor in the world is the veterinarian. He can't ask his patients what is the matter-he's got to just know. -- Will Rogers
03:06 <mweltin> I was in a kind of shock. Didn't hit me until the next day.
03:08 <zombie67> I have (and have had) other dogs. Roxy was different. She and I had a special relationship. we always knew what the other was thinking. Not fair.
03:09 <mweltin> I won't go that far with Einstine but he goes everywhere with me.
03:09 <mweltin> friends houses, the bank, down to the cornner store for ice cream everywhere.
03:10 <zombie67> yeah, looking back, when I took her in and he told me...I realize mi brain had just shut down.
03:10 <zombie67> I am still amazed we made it back home (20 mi) with out crashing.
03:10 <mweltin> LOL my GF just told me my dog farted in her room and then got up and left to lay down next to me.
03:10 <mweltin> LOL
03:10 <mweltin> you gotta love dogs.
03:10 <Tank_Master> :P
03:11 <Romulus> Title: xkcd - A webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language - By Randall Munroe (at www.xkcd.com)
03:12 <zombie67> yeah, shenandoah (my black lab) insists on sleeping under my desk when I am on the computer. She has the WORST gas, and it wafts straight up to me.
03:12 <zombie67> I get at least an hourly "reminder" she's down there.
03:13 <mweltin> maybe you should change her food.
03:13 <zombie67> mweltin, enjoy your time with your dog. make the most of it.
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03:13 <mweltin> Einstine has lupis and gets a good diet. Or used to before I moved here.
03:16 <mweltin> we still go hiking all the time and we go on two walks a day.
03:16 <mweltin> its good times Eintein here.
03:16 <mweltin> I'll be back soon.
03:16 <mweltin> I have to give the GF some attention.
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03:17 <Tank_Master> well, I got to give my bed some attention
03:17 <Tank_Master> so im off to bed
03:17 <Tank_Master> gn
03:17 <zombie67> gn
03:18 * Tank_Master s glad there is no work tomorrow
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03:29 <ChristmasCoder> hi-ho
03:30 <ChristmasCoder> &weather 45140
03:30 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: Temperature: 31.8°F / -0.1°C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 30.26in / 1024.6hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy. Lows around 30. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday Night - Rain through early morning...Channing to snow late. Sleet and freezing rain may mix in after midnight. Snow and sleet accumulation around an inch. Some (2 more messages)
03:31 <ChristmasCoder> it's going to "channing to snow"
03:31 <ChristmasCoder> &more
03:31 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: ice accumulation possible. Lows in the upper 20s. North winds 10 to 20 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Sunday - Cloudy. Snow in the morning...then a chance of snow in the afternoon. Additional snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches. Blustery with highs in the upper 20s. Northwest winds 20 to 25 mph with gusts up to 40 mph. Chance of snow 90 percent.; Winter Weather Advisory for (1 more message)
03:31 <ChristmasCoder> &more
03:31 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: Hamilton County in effect until 6:00 PM EST on December 15, 2007;
03:37 <efc> Zzz
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03:46 <ChristmasCoder> brb breakfast
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04:36 <ChristmasCoder> bbiab
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04:55 <ChristmasCoder> morning LL
04:56 <ChristmasCoder> brb
04:56 <LumpyLarry> bah morning bambosler day
04:57 * LumpyLarry is aching from all the containers going thru building today
04:59 <LumpyLarry> little one getting rather vocal about wanting some of my curds
04:59 <ChristmasCoder> b
04:59 <LumpyLarry> wb
05:00 <ChristmasCoder> the mail moves the country, and LL moves the mail
05:00 <LumpyLarry> gumpily along
05:01 <LumpyLarry> cant even say Merry Christmas as not PC at w/*-
05:01 <ChristmasCoder> neither rain nor snow nor grump...
05:01 <LumpyLarry> so instead have adopted Bah Humbug
05:02 <LumpyLarry> as i shoot another hamper across the dock to doors
05:02 <ChristmasCoder> I have a Hallmark Bah Humbug button from years ago
05:02 <LumpyLarry> it was too cheery ;)
05:02 <ChristmasCoder> lemme see if I can find a pic
05:02 <LumpyLarry> k
05:04 <ChristmasCoder> no quick pic hit
05:06 <LumpyLarry> tis ok
05:06 <LumpyLarry> scifi fridays sure have gone downhill - watching scorpion king that was on earlier
05:06 <LumpyLarry> or is it the mummy 3
05:07 <ChristmasCoder> It was in it's heyday when BSG was on on Friday nights
05:08 <LumpyLarry> yeah
05:08 <ChristmasCoder> it genuinely got me through the w@#% week - a goal to reach for
05:08 <ChristmasCoder> then they put it late on Sunday night - a real killer for Monday morning
05:09 <ChristmasCoder> more of a chore
05:11 <LumpyLarry> yeah don't even have recorder set for it yet as still reviewing what i record on saturday
05:12 <LumpyLarry> isn't the new ones to start in january?
05:12 <LumpyLarry> assuming writers strike over
05:14 <ChristmasCoder> March
05:15 <LumpyLarry> arrhhh
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05:18 <ChristmasCoder> I think I'll hit the grocery store early, before the weather moves in
05:19 <ChristmasCoder> bbl
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05:26 <LumpyLarry> good shopping
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06:57 <xcamel_away> 'lo
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06:58 <xcamel> Don is right on the 'deep snow' line...
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07:08 <ChristianB> Hi
07:09 <xcamel> 'lo Chris
07:19 <xcamel> &weather 12074
07:19 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 7.5°F / -13.6°C | Humidity: 61% | Pressure: 30.47in / 1031.7hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny this morning...then becoming mostly cloudy. Much colder with highs around 19. North winds around 5 mph.; Tonight - Snow after midnight. Snow accumulation of 3 to 6 inches. Lows around 17. Near steady temperature around 17. (2 more messages)
07:20 <xcamel> &more
07:20 <Romulus> xcamel: Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Sunday - Snow and sleet in the morning...then sleet...snow and freezing rain in the afternoon. Additional snow and sleet accumulation of 2 to 4 inches. Ice accumulation around one quarter of an inch. Not as cool with highs in the upper 20s. Northeast winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Winter Storm Watch for (1 more message)
07:20 <xcamel> &more
07:20 <Romulus> xcamel: Saratoga County in effect until 7:00 AM EST on December 17, 2007;
07:34 <xcamel> just not going to be pretty..
07:34 <ChristianB> &weather Leipzig
07:34 <Romulus> ChristianB: Temperature: 32Â°F / 0Â°C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 30.69in / 1039hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 1:20 PM CET; Clear. High:32 ° F. / 0 ° C.; Clear. Low:24 ° F. / -4 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:32 ° F. / 0 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:26 ° F. / -3 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:32 ° F. / 0 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:26 ° F. / -3 ° C.;
07:34 <xcamel> only 4F here
07:35 <xcamel> like -15C
07:35 <ChristianB> that's pretty cold
07:35 <xcamel> and a big storm on the way...
07:36 <ChristianB> I want to go to the Christmas market today so I better wear a warm jacket
07:36 <xcamel> good idea..
07:37 <xcamel> I have a big charity christmas breakfast this morning..
07:37 <ChristianB> at your house?
07:39 <ChristmasCoder> morning
07:39 <ChristmasCoder> go figure this radar http://cctvimedia.clearchannel.com/wkrc/weather/13.jpg
07:39 <xcamel> at the store - for christmas wish...
07:40 <ChristmasCoder> my weather distortion field is working - bwahaha
07:40 <xcamel> we've raised over $30,000 already..
07:40 <ChristianB> We have temperatures around the freezing point now but still no snow here
07:40 <xcamel> &math convert -4 F to C
07:40 <Romulus> xcamel: -20.0
07:40 <ChristmasCoder> I went to the store a bit early this morning
07:41 <xcamel> missing the crowds..
07:41 <ChristmasCoder> yep - my normal weekly run, but I stepped it up a bit
07:42 <ChristmasCoder> I was out of the store by the time I usually enter it
07:42 <xcamel> I hate shopping under any circumstance..
07:42 <ChristmasCoder> we haven't received any precip yet
07:43 <xcamel> you have heavy snow aloft
07:43 <ChristmasCoder> I wonder what causes that big hole
07:44 <xcamel> radar overload
07:44 <xcamel> hehehe...
07:44 <xcamel> need to go out and start the truck..
07:47 <xcamel> dropped down to 3F
07:47 <xcamel> burrrrr...
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07:50 <ChristmasCoder> other local radars only show the southern portion
07:51 <ChristmasCoder> maybe it's reflection off the impenetrable moving front
07:51 <ChristmasCoder> o_O
07:53 <xcamel> damn... it's cold out..
07:56 <ChristmasCoder> 32F here
07:56 <ChristmasCoder> I'm going outside to fill up the birdfeeders
07:56 <ChristmasCoder> bbiab
07:59 <xcamel> well.. off to breakfast with santa..
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08:27 <Bad_At_Home> Mopimg
08:27 <Bad_At_Home> Morning
08:27 <Bad_At_Home> &weather 86046
08:27 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Temperature: 0.5°F / -17.5°C | Humidity: 61% | Pressure: 23.71in / 802.8hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs 33 to 41. Light winds becoming east around 15 mph early in the afternoon...then becoming light late in the afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows -5 to 5. Light winds.; Sunday - Not as cold. Mostly sunny. Highs 41 to (1 more message)
08:27 <Bad_At_Home> &more
08:27 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: 47. Light winds.;
08:35 <ChristmasCoder> Morphing morning, BAH
08:53 <ChristmasCoder> it just started snowing
08:56 <BadBarbarian> cool its 15 degrees colder than romie says
09:07 <Romulus> Title: COW - Programming for Bovines (at www.bigzaphod.org)
09:09 <ChristianB> PovAddict: There's this spammer again in the wiki
09:09 <BadBarbarian> Moo
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09:33 <Lorvija> Any apache/webhosting/security specialists here..? (:
09:36 <ChristianB> Lorvija: I'm a bit experienced with apache and webhosting wjat's your problem?
09:37 <Lorvija> well i need some info about security and making some applications _very_ secure
09:37 <ChristianB> you mean web-applications?
09:38 <Lorvija> well applications or scripts (: php scripts specifically
09:39 <ChristianB> oh that should be possible to explain
09:39 <Lorvija> i'm designing certain kind of reservation system which has not been coded very secure way and also it contains _Very_ sensitive data so no unauthorized person must be able to access it..
09:39 <Lorvija> so been thinking about .htaccess for the whole directory + some kind of php session authentication.. and maybe ssl.. (: just would be nice to know if it's enough or overkill..
09:40 <Lorvija> (php session auth = ask password first and if password is okay then create $_SESSION['auth'] = ok... and then give the access... and on top of every page check if it's still ok..)
09:41 <ChristianB> .htacces is the best way I would say, but you have to trust the people which have the password for this
09:41 <Lorvija> the prob is not the ppl with password.. but the possible hackers and outsiders
09:41 <ChristianB> php session handling should be build in if you have multiple users with different rights
09:42 <Lorvija> well i just want it to be very secure.. so that why 2 authentications.. and i might also use it to differentiate the companies i'm selling this for...
09:42 <ChristianB> If you've set up the .htacces you can eliminate all outsiders
09:42 <Lorvija> well is it REALLY secure?
09:43 <ChristianB> .htaccess is tthe best way to secure an apache driven website from unauthorized access at the moment
09:43 <Lorvija> for example would you put your credit card number etc behind .htaccess secured site..?
09:43 <Lorvija> okay
09:44 <ChristianB> No I wouldn't
09:44 <Lorvija> what would you add then?
09:45 <Lorvija> (if we assume the server itself is secure and updated...)
09:46 <ChristianB> If I'm a customer and want to buy something using CC data I expect a php session variable and ssl protection. I expect also that the admin backend and the database is secured by encryption or .htaccess
09:46 <Lorvija> what kind of php session variable you mean?
09:46 <ChristianB> .htaccess is just for the experienced users or admins
09:46 <Lorvija> or where could i find info about that kind of thing..
09:47 <ChristianB> I mean a php session handling using cookies or something
09:47 <Lorvija> (i've used .htaccess etc before but i'm not really into how secure it is..)
09:48 <Lorvija> hmm so how would that php session handling work then..? never heard about that kind of auth.. well heard but really seen how to do it..
09:49 <ChristianB> .htaccess is very secure but you can't differentiate between the users. It's only good as a bouncer
09:50 <Romulus> Title: PHP: Sessions - Manual (at www.php.net)
09:50 <Lorvija> okay so would that kind of auth i described in the beginning of this conversation be sufficient?
09:51 <ChristianB> yes If it's done in a clean and secure way
09:51 <Lorvija> okay
09:51 <Lorvija> I guess i'll just do that then (:
09:52 <Lorvija> Then the only consern is how secure the rest of the server is and how secure the rest of the sites on the server are...
09:53 <ChristianB> yes but that's common to every page you create on the web
09:54 <Lorvija> yep... well i guess better would be virtual (or even better dedicated) server and put it behind firewall and use vpn...
09:54 <Lorvija> ?
09:55 <ChristianB> You don't have to be that secure
09:56 <ChristianB> A dedicated server for just one tiny little reservation system is overkill
09:56 <ChristianB> except you want to build a new reservation system for all Hilton hotels in the world
09:56 <Lorvija> humm well that reservation system is for ~20 companies and they completely stop working if that system fucks up (:
09:56 <wdsmia> asks Lorvija to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.
09:56 <ChristianB> :)
09:57 <Lorvija> so that's why i kinda would like to be secure.. though that vpn idea was just playing with idea.. (:
09:57 <ChristianB> Oh that's more than I expected, you should ask someone doing this for money than
09:59 <Lorvija> well i trust you.. (: and those companies aren't that big anyways... but anyways i do like to prevent things before they happen... so thats why i'm gonna limit the traffic for the site for only .fi hosts etc.. :E
10:00 <Lorvija> besides dedicated servers aren't that expensive afterall compared to buying web hosting.. so the spent money would be pretty much same...
10:01 <Lorvija> humm.. and if i buy dedicated server i could run boinc.. ;D
10:02 <Lorvija> but thank you... i think i'll go with php auth, .htaccess and ssl for starters (:
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10:28 <xcamel> that was fun..
10:28 <PriitM> I just solved the CPU heat problem
10:28 <PriitM> well I've figured a way out...
10:29 <PriitM> well I've figured a way out...
10:29 <PriitM> oops, sorry :<
10:34 <xcamel> have to warm up enough to go out and freeze again...
10:35 <xcamel> all the way up to 11F
10:39 <PriitM> don't worry, we got almoust -31F last winter
10:40 <PriitM> hmm, converter error i think :/
10:40 <PriitM> or not.
11:14 <ChristmasCoder> going out to run the snowthrower - we just changed to rain, and I want to get the snow off the drive before it becomes soaked
11:14 <ChristmasCoder> bbl
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12:15 <xcamel> well.. here comes the storm....
12:15 <PovAddict> cool...?
12:15 <xcamel> big coastal storm... looks like a bunch of snow for us...
12:47 <ChristmasCoder> back inside
12:47 <ChristmasCoder> that was a bit tough - I was making slushy snow snakes with the snowthrower
12:47 <ChristmasCoder> thrower is a bad term - "oozer"
12:48 <ChristmasCoder> I'm hungry - bbiab
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13:37 <Sfan00> Hello
13:37 <Sfan00> What kinds of things can BOINC do?
13:38 <Sfan00> (apart from Fourier transfroms ;)
13:38 <Sfan00> )
13:38 <ChristianB> BOINC can do all you want because it's just a framework
13:39 <ChristianB> the project does the science
13:39 <Sfan00> OK
13:39 <ChristianB> There are several different projects available
13:39 <Sfan00> So How do I find someone that know anything about weather models...
13:39 <Sfan00> ?
13:39 <Romulus> Title: Join Team SETI.USA (at www.setiusa.net)
13:40 <Tank_Master> there are 2 projects strictly doing weather
13:40 <Tank_Master> one is just about over though
13:40 <Sfan00> OK
13:40 <Romulus> Title: Choosing BOINC projects (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
13:40 <Tank_Master> the other, climateprediction.net, is the best one
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13:40 <Tank_Master> but the work units are large
13:41 <Tank_Master> the link I posted has even more, and a discription of the project
13:41 <Sfan00> What I was looking for was some kind of not big project....
13:41 <Sfan00> (in the way that mass climate prediction is)
13:41 <Tank_Master> APS may be the one you want then
13:41 <Sfan00> but more like one parralleled so that the dat got done quickly
13:41 <Tank_Master> but its not active atm because the project admin just got married
13:42 <Tank_Master> a climateprediction moddle will take several weeks to a few months to compleat
13:43 <Sfan00> SO How long does a model for say something smaller like the synopsis for the UK in the next 24 hours take?
13:44 <Tank_Master> there are no shirt term moddeling going on
13:44 <ChristianB> Tank_Master: Wasn't there a list with all projects and estimated runtims and requirements?
13:44 <Tank_Master> short*
13:44 <Sfan00> OK
13:45 <Tank_Master> CB: Zombie might have one
13:45 <Sfan00> It's not so much short term modelling, as needing 'fast' response by massively parralleling the computation
13:45 <Tank_Master> the climate modles got from 50 years past to 50 years in the future
13:45 <Tank_Master> (CPN)
13:46 <Tank_Master> the past to to ensure historical accuricy
13:46 <Tank_Master> if the modle dosnt acuretly reflect the past, then its deams as not a good moddle
13:51 <wdsmia> re-hi
13:52 <Tank_Master> wb
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15:09 <xcamel> looks like the coastal storm is starting to form....
15:18 <ChristmasCoder> un-good
15:19 <ChristmasCoder> the laptop repair has run into a problem - the laptop will not power on at all with the new inverter, and only get power lights with the old inverter
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15:49 <xcamel> too bad on the laptop...
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16:06 <ChristmasCoder> yeah - it'll have to go in to let the laptop repair guys finish it up
16:06 <ChristmasCoder> I'm trying to save money on this charity repair; at every turn it costs more
16:07 * ChristmasCoder sighs
16:07 <ChristmasCoder> as I said before "the things we do for love"
16:08 <efc> Didn't turn out well?
16:08 * efc reads log
16:08 <ChristmasCoder> new LCD is installed
16:09 <ChristmasCoder> having inverter woes
16:09 <efc> Inverter bad.. plug it in backwards
16:10 <ChristmasCoder> how will that help?
16:10 <PovAddict> inverted plug
16:10 <ChristmasCoder> that will probably let the smoke out of it
16:11 <ChristmasCoder> it's the smoke that makes these things work
16:11 * efc was Just Kidding on that one and disclaims all liability
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16:13 <d00m1001> Hello
16:13 <ChristmasCoder> maybe I'm missing the big red letters
16:13 <ChristmasCoder> hello d00m1001
16:13 <d00m1001> I'm having a spot of trouble.
16:13 * PovAddict wonders if this channel was recently advertised somewhere
16:13 <ChristmasCoder> trouble seems to follow me around
16:14 <d00m1001> I'm using SETI@home at the moment, and, my downloads go for about 7 seconds and then restarts.
16:14 <d00m1001> restart*
16:14 <PovAddict> d00m1001: downloads?
16:14 <d00m1001> Sorry*
16:14 <d00m1001> Tasks*
16:14 <PovAddict> ah... hmm
16:15 <d00m1001> I'm kind of new to BOINC
16:15 <d00m1001> Have a spare laptop, thought I'd run it.
16:15 <d00m1001> Using Slackware linux.
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16:17 <Romulus> Title: Please log in (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)
16:17 <d00m1001> 8765611
16:17 <PovAddict> hmm SETI server kinda slow today
16:18 <d00m1001> Yeah.
16:18 <PovAddict> ok, doesn't really look like you have been returning lots of bad tasks, you only ever got one
16:18 <PovAddict> where do you notice the task restarting repeatedly?
16:18 <PovAddict> on some system process monitor, or on the BOINC Manager?
16:19 <d00m1001> BOINC Manager
16:19 <d00m1001> It keeps going back to 0%
16:19 <ChristmasCoder> what does boincmgr Message tab say?
16:19 <d00m1001> and the CPU time keeps going to 00:00:00
16:19 <PovAddict> ChristmasCoder: I wonder if he's using the Simple GUI
16:19 <d00m1001> I'm not
16:19 <d00m1001> It says Restarting Task
16:19 <d00m1001> if this happes repeatedly you may need to restart the process
16:19 <d00m1001> lol.
16:20 <d00m1001> There's my answer.
16:20 <ChristmasCoder> anything else? "error"?
16:20 <PovAddict> hmm strange
16:20 <PovAddict> CPU?
16:20 <d00m1001> cpu??
16:20 <PovAddict> bah nevermind, I can check that myself from your account number
16:20 <d00m1001> Okay.
16:20 <PovAddict> hmm 128MB of RAM?
16:21 <d00m1001> Sounds right.
16:21 <ChristmasCoder> wow, I have 7 LHC WUs completed today
16:21 <PovAddict> @everybody, how much RAM does SETI use nowadays? I haven't ran SETI for a long while
16:22 <efc> Optimized client, 28.7 megs atm
16:22 <d00m1001> Well
16:22 <PovAddict> d00m1001: now i see you aborted that task and got another http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=4062100
16:22 <d00m1001> I restarted the Task..
16:22 <d00m1001> Well yeah.
16:22 <d00m1001> I aborted
16:22 <Romulus> Title: Tasks for computer (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)
16:22 <d00m1001> And now it seems fine.
16:23 <PovAddict> maybe that task had problems
16:23 <d00m1001> Yeah.
16:24 <d00m1001> I was runing Rosetta earlier.
16:24 <d00m1001> But the tasks just completely crashed my comp.
16:24 <d00m1001> The Show graphics didn't work either.
16:24 <PovAddict> Rosetta needs more RAM than you have on that computer
16:24 <PovAddict> and it has no graphics for Linux currently
16:24 <d00m1001> I figured.
16:24 <d00m1001> Ohh.
16:24 <d00m1001> That would explain.
16:25 <d00m1001> Shoot.
16:25 <d00m1001> SETI Task ran for ~1min. restarted.
16:25 <d00m1001> Same problem again now.
16:26 <d00m1001> What @home uses the least RAM?
16:26 <PovAddict> I doubt your current problem is due to RAM...
16:27 <ChristmasCoder> I have S@H, er, "running" on host 2845972, Pentium 200, with 128MB RAM, under Ubuntu (large swap)
16:28 <efc> Yeah, it'll run on 80 MB too
16:28 <PovAddict> ChristmasCoder: "walking"?
16:28 <ChristmasCoder> just keeps the SETI candle lit in the cathedral of my heart
16:28 <efc> Win 95 or 2000, I forget which I had on there
16:28 <d00m1001> Hmm
16:28 <d00m1001> Wonder what the problem is then.
16:28 <ChristmasCoder> average turnaround = 8 days
16:28 <d00m1001> Think I should try it on Win?
16:28 <PovAddict> lol ChristmasCoder, 8 days??
16:29 <ChristmasCoder> less than "walking"
16:29 <ChristmasCoder> wouldn't want that candle to burn too quickly
16:30 <PovAddict> d00m1001: have you been starting the graphics?
16:30 <d00m1001> Yeah, it seems to 0 out when I show graphics.
16:30 <d00m1001> Which is kind of lame.
16:30 <PovAddict> then that's the prob...
16:30 <d00m1001> Yeah but...
16:30 <d00m1001> I kind of want to see them.
16:31 <PovAddict> SETI graphics are OpenGL
16:31 <ChristmasCoder> graphics grabs all memory?
16:31 <PovAddict> you don't exactly need a high-end graphics card, but you do need *some* 3D acceleration...
16:32 <d00m1001> Is there someone to get an alternate graphic? I guess... kind of like a still animation
16:32 <PovAddict> I see from the task logs that the tasks are returning:
16:32 <PovAddict> freeglut (screensaver): Unable to create direct context rendering for window 'setiathome_enhanced version 5.27 [workunit: 30ja07ad.11177.25021.3.6.36]' This may hurt performance.
16:32 <PovAddict> oh btw, you also need proper drivers, which may be hard to find for some gfx cards under Linux
16:33 <d00m1001> Think I should try Win?
16:33 <PovAddict> you could try...
16:33 <ChristmasCoder> wife just said "dinner in 5 minutes" - bbl
16:33 <PovAddict> future versions of SETI (= those supporting BOINC 6.0) may allow 3rd party graphic apps
16:34 <d00m1001> Yeah... I'll try windows.
16:34 <d00m1001> Probably Windows Server 2000
16:34 <d00m1001> 2003*
16:42 <efc> Hmm, haven't read about another big credit card breach, but i bet there was one
16:49 <d00m1001> Ahhh
16:49 <d00m1001> The beauty of having 3 computers in a room.
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17:00 <wdsmia> &weather 50265
17:00 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 19°F / -7°C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1019hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h ; Late This Afternoon - Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of snow. North wind 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A 20 percent chance of snow in the evening. Low 5 to 10 above. Northwest wind 10 to 15 mph.; Sunday - Mostly sunny. High in the lower 20s. (1 more message)
17:00 * xcamel yawns
17:00 <wdsmia> &more
17:00 <Romulus> wdsmia: Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph.;
17:01 <xcamel> now there is a huge slug of rain headed up through georgia
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17:02 <xcamel> storm warnings up all over now...
17:03 <yoyo[RKN]> &weather berlin
17:03 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 25Â°F / -4Â°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 30.74in / 1041hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 10:50 PM CET; Clear. High:35 ° F. / 2 ° C.; Clear. Low:26 ° F. / -3 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:35 ° F. / 2 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:30 ° F. / -1 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:37 ° F. / 3 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:28 ° F. / -2 ° C.;
17:03 <efc> Awesome, we need the rain, bring it on
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17:03 <efc> You call that a storm?! Is that the best you can ?!
17:03 * efc tries to psyche out nature
17:04 * wdsmia reminds efc its not nice to fool with mother nature
17:06 <xcamel> it may change a bit though
17:06 <d00m1001> &weather 85086
17:06 <Romulus> d00m1001: Temperature: 58.7°F / 14.8°C | Humidity: 24% | Pressure: 30.22in / 1023.2hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny. Highs 53 to 58. Northeast wind 5 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 30 to 40. Light wind in the evening... becoming north 5 to 15 mph after midnight.; Sunday - Sunny and warmer. Highs 59 to 64. East wind 5 to 15 mph.;
17:07 <d00m1001> Lies.
17:07 <d00m1001> My Linux temp. says 55.9
17:08 <ChristmasCoder> &weather 45140
17:08 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: Temperature: 32.9°F / 0.5°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.85in / 1010.7hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Tonight - Rain. Freezing rain and snow likely after midnight. Snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches with light ice accumulation. Lows around 30. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming north 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph late. Chance of (2 more messages)
17:08 <ChristmasCoder> &more
17:08 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: precipitation 100 percent.; Sunday - Snow likely. Total accumulation of 2 to 4 inches. Blustery with highs around 30. West winds 15 to 25 mph with gusts up to 45 mph. Chance of snow 70 percent.; Sunday Night - Mostly cloudy with a slight chance of snow in the evening...then partly cloudy after midnight. Cooler with lows around 20. West winds 10 to 20 mph. Gusts up to 40 mph in the evening. (1 more message)
17:08 <d00m1001> Snow?
17:08 <d00m1001> Ugh...
17:08 <ChristmasCoder> &more
17:08 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: Chance of snow 20 percent.; Winter Weather Advisory for Hamilton County in effect until 6:00 PM EST on December 15, 2007;
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17:09 <d00m1001> What state is that?
17:09 <ChristmasCoder> Ohio
17:09 <d00m1001> Ah.
17:09 <d00m1001> <- Arizona
17:09 <BadBarbarian> lol
17:09 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86046
17:09 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 39.6°F / 4.2°C | Humidity: 30% | Pressure: 23.71in / 802.8hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 3.6mph / 5.8km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs 33 to 41. Light winds becoming east around 15 mph early in the afternoon...then becoming light late in the afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows -5 to 5. Light winds.; Sunday - Not as cold. Mostly sunny. Highs 41 to (1 more message)
17:09 <BadBarbarian> &more
17:09 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: 47. Light winds.;
17:10 <BadBarbarian> theres arizona for you
17:10 <d00m1001> Sierra Vista?
17:10 <BadBarbarian> Williams
17:10 <d00m1001> Oh.
17:10 <xcamel> I'd take 55 about now... 75 would be nicer..
17:10 <d00m1001> I only know Phoenix and Tucson area codes.
17:11 <xcamel> &weather 12074
17:11 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 12.9°F / -10.6°C | Humidity: 62% | Pressure: 30.55in / 1034.4hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - A slight chance of snow this evening...then snow after midnight. Snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches. Lows around 17. East winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Sunday - Sleet and freezing rain. Snow. Additional snow and sleet (2 more messages)
17:12 <xcamel> &more
17:12 <Romulus> xcamel: accumulation of 3 to 6 inches. Ice accumulation around one quarter of an inch. Cold with highs in the upper 20s. East winds around 15 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Sunday Night - Snow. Total accumulation of 5 to 10 inches. Lows around 17. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming west 10 to 20 mph after midnight. Chance of snow 90 percent.; Winter Storm Warning for Saratoga County in (1 more message)
17:12 <xcamel> &more
17:12 <Romulus> xcamel: effect until 7:00 AM EST on December 17, 2007;
17:12 <BadBarbarian> your getting pounded like we were 3 days ago xcamel
17:12 <BadBarbarian> same storm
17:13 <xcamel> with allot more cols and available moisture coming in...
17:14 <xcamel> er cold air, that is...
17:14 <xcamel> tomorrow will be the "pounding"
17:14 <xcamel> on into monday..
17:15 <Romulus> Title: usbcell - revolutionary rechargeable usb battery that can charge from any USB port (at www.usbcell.com)
17:15 <ChristmasCoder> seems handy
17:18 <xcamel> USBCELL used for corporate eco-Events, Featured at the Clinton Global Initiative << that puts it on my "junk" list...
17:20 <ChristmasCoder> ah
17:21 <ChristmasCoder> would be nice for my wireless mouse that I use with the company laptop
17:23 <ChristmasCoder> bbl
17:27 * ChristianB|away is back.
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17:38 <PriitM> sweet, i'm getting ping of 25ms to my ISP server
17:45 <xcamel> fairly quick
17:47 <ChristianB> Hi
17:48 <ChristianB> xcamel: Do you know a java irc client that is used to connect easily to this channel?
17:48 <PovAddict> there's many java applets online that you can connect to any server
17:48 <xcamel> almost any java client will connect...
17:49 <PovAddict> or, ircatwork.com, which is a public cgi:irc (doesn't need Java)
17:53 <ChristianB> thx
17:54 <xcamel> too damn cold for december..
17:54 <xcamel> 12F
17:57 <wdsmia> Just wait till Jan and Feb
17:57 <xcamel> thrillsville...
17:58 <bryanUC> xcamel: I'd take cold over sleet/freezing rain
17:58 <bryanUC> &weather 43016
17:58 <Romulus> bryanUC: Temperature: 32°F / 0°C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 29.88in / 1012hPa | Conditions: Light Freezing Rain | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h ; Tonight - Rain. Freezing rain and snow after midnight. Snow accumulation 1 to 2 inches with light ice accumulation. Lows in the lower 30s. East winds 10 to 15 mph...becoming south with gusts up to 20 mph late. Chance of precipitation 100 percent.; (2 more messages)
17:58 <bryanUC> &more
17:58 <Romulus> bryanUC: Sunday - Snow with a chance of freezing rain in the morning... changing to all snow in the afternoon. Total accumulation of 4 to 6 inches. Blustery with highs in the lower 30s. West winds 15 to 25 mph. Gusts up to 40 mph...increasing to 50 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Sunday Night - Mostly cloudy. A chance of snow in the evening... then a slight chance of snow after (1 more message)
17:58 <bryanUC> heh, now we're going to get snow all day & night tomorrow?
17:59 <bryanUC> hmm, snow day?
17:59 <bryanUC> &more
17:59 <Romulus> bryanUC: midnight. Blustery and colder with lows in the lower 20s. West winds 15 to 25 mph. Gusts up to 50 mph...decreasing to 35 mph after midnight. Chance of snow 40 percent.; Winter Storm Warning for Franklin County in effect until 12:00 PM EST on December 16, 2007; Wind Advisory for Franklin County in effect until 6:00 PM EST on December 16, 2007;
17:59 <bryanUC> yeah, I'd take 12F over this
17:59 <xcamel> &zipinfo 43016
17:59 <Romulus> xcamel: City: Dublin; State: OH; County: Franklin; Area Code: 614; Time Zone: EST; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 40.1249 (North); Longitude: 83.0956 (West)
17:59 <xcamel> still snowing there?
17:59 <bryanUC> switched to sleet & freezing rain
17:59 <bryanUC> got about 3" of snow before it changed over around 3:30pm
18:00 <bryanUC> now it's a nice icy mixutre
18:00 <xcamel> we could get 12-20" of snow tomorrow..
18:00 <bryanUC> that would be awesome
18:00 <bryanUC> last year we had a 12" storm...last 20"+ was in '03
18:00 <xcamel> you don't have to clean it all up...
18:00 <bryanUC> heh, no...I pay people to do it
18:00 <bryanUC> well, not directly
18:01 <xcamel> it's not going to be pretty...
18:02 <bryanUC> where are you?
18:02 <bryanUC> obviously somewhere north/colder
18:02 <xcamel> upstate ny
18:02 <bryanUC> heh
18:02 <bryanUC> I thought you guys still play golf in 12" snow up there
18:02 <xcamel> north of Albany
18:02 <bryanUC> bad-asses
18:02 <xcamel> frozen-asses
18:02 <bryanUC> lol
18:02 <bryanUC> yeah, my fiance's cousin is getting married the 3rd weekend in January....in VERMONT
18:02 <bryanUC> who does that
18:02 <bryanUC> lol
18:02 <bryanUC> there's a travel nightmare waiting to happenj
18:03 <xcamel> uh-huh.
18:03 <efc> Maybe there's schedule pressure :)
18:03 <xcamel> you getting rain now e?
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18:04 <efc> Good rain
18:05 <IRCTester> It's working
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18:11 <ChristmasCoder> ah
18:12 <ChristmasCoder> ..WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IS CANCELLED...
18:12 <ChristmasCoder> THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN WILMINGTON HAS CANCELLED THE WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY. TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN ABOVE FREEZING THIS EVENING. RAIN WILL CHANGE OVER TO SNOW EARLY SUNDAY MORNING WITH ADDITIONAL ACCUMULATION OF LESS THAN AN INCH.
18:14 <bryanUC> ChristmasCoder: how far south are you?
18:15 <ChristianB> Where can I find FAQ's for BOINC and/or projects?
18:15 <ChristianB> Is the inofficial wiki still maintained?
18:15 <PovAddict> sort of
18:15 <Romulus> Title: BOINC FAQ Service (at boincfaq.mundayweb.com)
18:16 <xcamel> lucky you, Don..
18:22 <ChristmasCoder> yep
18:22 <ChristmasCoder> I am in Cincinnati, bryanUC
18:22 <ChristmasCoder> &weather Manchester, NH
18:22 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: Temperature: 18°F / -8°C | Humidity: 48% | Pressure: 30.57in / 1035hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h ; Tonight - Snow after midnight. Snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches. Lows around 17. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Sunday - Snow in the morning...then rain...snow and sleet in the afternoon. Precipitation may be (2 more messages)
18:23 <ChristmasCoder> &more
18:23 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: heavy at times in the afternoon. Additional snow and sleet accumulation of 3 to 5 inches. Not as cool with highs in the lower 30s. Northeast winds 10 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Sunday Night - Mostly cloudy. Rain...freezing rain likely with a chance of snow in the evening. Total accumulation of 6 to 10 inches possible. Brisk with lows in the (1 more message)
18:23 <ChristmasCoder> &more
18:23 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: lower 20s. North winds 15 to 25 mph...becoming west around 15 mph after midnight. Gusts up to 35 mph. Chance of precipitation 70 percent.; Winter Storm Warning for Hillsborough County in effect until 7:00 PM EST on December 16, 2007;
18:25 <ChristmasCoder> we have a guest (supposedly) flying out of Manchester tomorrow morning to Cincinnati
18:29 <ChristmasCoder> &weather Chelmsford, MA
18:29 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: Temperature: 16.7°F / -8.5°C | Humidity: 60% | Pressure: 30.49in / 1032.4hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Snow after midnight. Snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches. Lows around 18. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Sunday - Snow...sleet and freezing rain in the morning...then rain with a chance of sleet in the (2 more messages)
18:29 <ChristmasCoder> &more
18:29 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: afternoon. Precipitation may be heavy at times in the afternoon. Additional snow and sleet accumulation of 2 to 4 inches. Brisk and not as cool with highs in the mid 30s. Northeast winds 10 to 20 mph...increasing to 20 to 25 mph in the afternoon. Gusts up to 35 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Sunday Night - Mostly cloudy. Rain...freezing rain likely with a chance of snow in the (1 more message)
18:29 <ChristmasCoder> &more
18:29 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: evening. Total accumulation of 4 to 6 inches possible. Brisk with lows in the lower 20s. West winds 15 to 25 mph with gusts up to 35 mph. Chance of precipitation 70 percent.; Winter Storm Warning for Middlesex County in effect until 7:00 PM EST on December 16, 2007;
18:31 <ChristianB> @all: If someone wants a place where he/she can find some help or advise for BOINC and/or the projects what places would you suggest? (apart from this channel)
18:32 <ChristianB> I already have:
18:32 <ChristianB> BOINC online help
18:32 <ChristianB> this channel
18:32 <ChristianB> unofficial BOINC Wiki
18:32 <ChristianB> boinc FAQ service (mundayweb)
18:33 <ChristianB> anything else to mention?
18:34 <yoyo[RKN]> the forum of the attached project and the boinc forum
18:35 <ChristianB> which boinc forum?
18:35 <ChristianB> the .edu/dev ?
18:35 <Romulus> Title: BOINC Message boardsBOINC Message boards (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
18:36 <yoyo[RKN]> yes this one
18:36 <ChristianB> Is it realy used?
18:36 <PovAddict> see the Last Post timestamps...
18:46 <Romulus> Title: open-source Notes » Blog Archive (at blog.os-tools.net)
18:47 <ChristianB> can so0meone proof read this plz?
18:48 <PovAddict> "Sorry, no posts matched your criteria."
18:50 <ChristianB> oops, it's just working if you're logged in.
18:50 <ChristianB> Ok I'll publish it and correct it afterwards
18:52 <Romulus> Title: open-source Notes » Blog Archive » Where do I get BOINC support? (at blog.os-tools.net)
18:57 * ChristianB is away: Zur Zeit nicht da.
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18:57 <PovAddict> well, works
18:57 <BadBarbarian> evening Pov
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19:10 <wdsmia> 1,071,372 @QMC sorry Jay :)
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20:18 <xcamel> back again ish
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20:28 <RedBlade7> hi, i just came back to boinc (installed it on a new computer), it's a core 2 duo, and i'm having a problem: the projects are stuck at 0% and the time remaning increases. i am running the linux client.
20:29 <RedBlade7> currently "yoyo" and "enigma" are doing this
20:29 <RedBlade7> is it running in the background?
20:31 <Tannk_Master> make sore the clisent isnt set to "suspend while use is active"
20:31 <Tannk_Master> user*
20:31 <Tannk_Master> that would be in your project settings
20:34 <xcamel> which project(s)?
20:34 <RedBlade7> right now, yoyo@home and enigma@home
20:39 <xcamel> yup - check your project prefs at the project websites
20:40 <RedBlade7> ok, thanks, it works now
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20:44 <xcamel> another satisfied customer
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21:45 <d00m1001> Hey giys
21:45 <d00m1001> guys*
21:45 <d00m1001> I can't make an account on climateprediction
21:45 <d00m1001> Is there an online form?
21:46 <PovAddict> are you trying to make the account from the manager?
21:46 <d00m1001> Yeah
21:46 <d00m1001> Btw PovAddict
21:46 <PovAddict> what URL are you using?
21:46 <d00m1001> Windows worked, thanks.
21:46 <d00m1001> PovAddict, It's on the BOINC Manager
21:46 <d00m1001> I just highlight Climateprediction.net
21:46 <PovAddict> ah yes...
21:47 <d00m1001> Some sites have an o-line reg form thoguh
21:47 <d00m1001> though*
21:47 <PovAddict> what error do you get with the manager?
21:47 <d00m1001> NEvermind
21:47 <d00m1001> I was successfully attatched.
21:47 <d00m1001> :s...
21:47 <d00m1001> go figure.
21:56 <d00m1001> Can you run two graphics at once?
22:03 <d00m1001> Cause when I start my climateprediction graphic, I can't look at my SETI anymore.
22:05 <mweltin> hey
22:06 <d00m1001> Actually, how do you get two projects running at once.
22:06 <d00m1001> two tasks*
22:07 <mweltin> I don't see how you could run to graphics at once
22:08 <mweltin> I'm looking at my boin mangaer now
22:08 <mweltin> I'm only signed up for one project
22:08 <mweltin> which manager view are you using d00m1001
22:08 <d00m1001> Advanced
22:08 <mweltin> god
22:08 <mweltin> good
22:09 <d00m1001> I just want to run two tasks at once.
22:09 <mweltin> I think you can only run one task at a time
22:10 <mweltin> In the boinc manager prferences
22:10 <mweltin> it has a setting
22:10 <mweltin> "switch between applications between every" x # of minutes.
22:10 <mweltin> you can download lots of tasks and have them waiting to be worked on
22:11 <mweltin> but I think you only run one at a time.
22:11 <d00m1001> Dang
22:11 <mweltin> unless you have multiple cores
22:11 <d00m1001> Will the graphics automatically popup?
22:11 <mweltin> which is getting very common.
22:11 <mweltin> I have no idea about graphics, sorry.
22:11 <mweltin> I would assume so.
22:11 <mweltin> you are talking about the screen savers?
22:11 <d00m1001> Yes
22:12 <mweltin> yes they should appear automaticly.
22:12 <mweltin> what OS do you have?
22:12 <d00m1001> I know how to set the screen saver
22:12 <mweltin> good
22:13 <d00m1001> I have several machines by the way
22:13 <d00m1001> The one with Boinc is windows server 2003
22:13 <mweltin> why don't you run it on all of them?
22:14 <d00m1001> Cause I use all my other machines :)
22:14 <d00m1001> I devote my whole boinc machines to boinc
22:14 <d00m1001> machine*
22:14 <mweltin> well at least you do that. BOINC projects thank you for that.
22:14 <d00m1001> Yeah
22:15 <MTughan> 'lo mweltin
22:15 <MTughan> 'lo d00m1001
22:15 <d00m1001> 'lol
22:15 <d00m1001> ;lo*
22:15 <mweltin> MTughan!
22:15 <d00m1001> Time for dinner though.
22:15 <mweltin> later
22:15 <PovAddict> d00m1001: to run two tasks together, buy a dualcore :)
22:15 <PovAddict> hi MTughan!
22:16 <MTughan> 'lo Pov
22:16 <mweltin> Guess what guys!
22:16 <MTughan> Oh, is GA done?
22:16 <mweltin> yes, but better than that.
22:16 <PovAddict> omg I downloaded 42MB?
22:16 <mweltin> My friend is going to get me a vitural server state side for Christmas.
22:17 <mweltin> T1 here I come.
22:17 <MTughan> Yay! ^^
22:17 <PovAddict> omg insanity
22:17 <PovAddict> 20MB xml
22:17 <mweltin> I know!
22:17 <mweltin> ouch
22:17 <MTughan> Hey, at least it's not 1.7GB.
22:17 <mweltin> let me guess 20KB of real data.
22:18 <PovAddict> it has a list of files
22:18 <PovAddict> URL to get the file from
22:18 <PovAddict> and MD5 hash
22:18 <PovAddict> thing is, it's 58454 files
22:18 <mweltin> what is it?
22:19 <PovAddict> a metalink of netbsd
22:19 <MTughan> It's a download file, showing different parts for a file, if I'm not mistaken.
22:19 <PovAddict> it would be so much more efficient if it those files were tar'd...
22:20 <MTughan> mweltin: You said GA was done. Are you wanting apps for it?
22:20 <PovAddict> ok 571 files crawled
22:20 <mweltin> I'm still trying to dial in the population size and number of generations.
22:20 <PovAddict> (ab)using google
22:20 <MTughan> Okay.
22:20 <mweltin> 10,000 pop size and 1 million generations was too long
22:21 <mweltin> I stopped it after 26 hours.
22:21 <PovAddict> you should print to stderr the generation number
22:21 <PovAddict> so you know progress
22:21 <PovAddict> mainly, so you know if you should lower it by a 10 factor or a 1000 factor :)
22:21 <mweltin> I'm trying 100k generations now.
22:22 <PovAddict> if it's calculating 10 generations per minute, you're in trouble
22:22 <mweltin> as always PovAddict good call
22:22 <mweltin> its been running for 2 hours now.
22:23 <MTughan> All right, bbiab. Getting some food.
22:23 <mweltin> late MTughan
22:23 <PovAddict> ok I have these 571 XML files to parse and check for validity
22:24 <mweltin> the validity should be easy.
22:24 <mweltin> just xml validity or data validity?
22:24 <PovAddict> one step at a time :) first check if they're well-formed XML
22:24 <mweltin> that should be easy
22:25 <mweltin> there are several apps to do that.
22:25 <mweltin> expat comes with one wfx or wfm I forget
22:25 <mweltin> something like that.
22:26 <mweltin> xmlwf (1) - Determines if an XML document is well-formed
22:26 <mweltin> I added some features to the "eye candy" for tsp
22:26 <mweltin> a couple div's that show some meta data on the path found.
22:29 <Soul_keeper> hey PovAddict do you code in C ?
22:29 <Soul_keeper> i an having a small precedence issue
22:29 <Soul_keeper> am*
22:29 <mweltin> I do sometimes
22:29 <mweltin> use ()
22:29 <Soul_keeper> printf("\nRunning ALU tests(2 for now):");
22:29 <Soul_keeper> system("aludir/lsalu");
22:30 <Soul_keeper> the system is getting executed before printf
22:30 <MTughan> How can you tell?
22:30 <Soul_keeper> well it is getting displayed after it runs
22:30 <mweltin> did you compile with optimizations?
22:30 <Soul_keeper> yes
22:30 <mweltin> that may be why
22:30 <Soul_keeper> figures
22:30 <PovAddict> mweltin: gcc is smart enough not to reorder stuff if it causes different results
22:30 <mweltin> try it without the -O
22:31 <Soul_keeper> i had this issue once before and just thru a sleep(3); in there and it went away ...
22:31 <Soul_keeper> thanks
22:31 <PovAddict> Soul_keeper: I think stdout is getting flushed on a newline, and you aren't printing a newline *after* the "Running ALU tests", so you need to fflush(stdout) after the printf
22:31 <Soul_keeper> i'll just have to put the printf in the called program
22:32 <mweltin> in C++ I switch from cout to cerr
22:32 <mweltin> flush the buffer right away if you call cerr.
22:32 <mweltin> cout gets pushed out when it feels like it.
22:32 <MTughan> But cerr is for a specific purpose, not for general messages.
22:32 <mweltin> true
22:32 <PovAddict> mweltin: in C++, endl is actually "\n"-and-flush-the-buffer
22:32 <MTughan> That's what cout is for.
22:33 <MTughan> Or stdout as known in C and Java.
22:33 <mweltin> I use endl and have still had to switch.
22:33 <mweltin> Soul_keeper, is not using either
22:34 <MTughan> C doesn't have cout, cerr, or endl.
22:34 <Soul_keeper> :)
22:34 <mweltin> his results wouldn't chagne if you chagned the order
22:34 <Soul_keeper> i'll just have to reaarange my code to conform, doing it now, or compile without the ops
22:34 <mweltin> the printf doesn' rely on anything from the system call.
22:34 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: Try the fflush(stdout) first.
22:35 <Soul_keeper> before printf ?
22:35 <mweltin> try the without ops. I'm curious.
22:35 <MTughan> After.
22:35 <mweltin> after
22:35 <Soul_keeper> after each instance ?
22:35 <mweltin> PovAddict, is more than likely right.
22:35 <Soul_keeper> i have like 7 of this setups
22:35 <MTughan> Just try it on that one first.
22:35 <mweltin> only when you want to make sure it get printed.
22:35 <PovAddict> there should be a way to disable buffering too
22:38 <Soul_keeper> hmmm it seems to have worked
22:38 <mweltin> what did you try?
22:38 <Soul_keeper> nice
22:38 <MTughan> fflush(stdout)
22:39 <mweltin> fflush good to know.
22:39 <Soul_keeper> now i can get onto the next phase of my program
22:39 <Soul_keeper> :)
22:40 <d00m1001> Hey guys
22:40 <d00m1001> With SETI
22:40 <d00m1001> if you find aliens
22:40 <d00m1001> Do you win a prize?
22:40 <MTughan> PovAddict: Look up setvbuf. Can turn off buffering.
22:40 <mweltin> yes, the cia comes to your house and you are never seen again.
22:40 <d00m1001> Hahah
22:40 <MTughan> d00m1001: First, I have no idea. Second, you can type more than a few words on a line. :P
22:41 <mweltin> I hear they will take you to a "happy palce"
22:41 <MTughan> Gitmo?
22:41 <d00m1001> Sorry MTughan
22:41 <PovAddict> d00m1001: the possibility is so remote that I don't think they thought about it :)
22:41 <d00m1001> It never hurts to dream PovAddict
22:41 <MTughan> Do they take you to Gitmo?
22:41 <d00m1001> I wonder if theres some way to alert you though.
22:41 <mweltin> no you might get seen there.
22:42 <MTughan> PovAddict: Looks like setvbuf(stdout, NULL, _IONBF, 10) oughta turn off buffering.
22:42 <PovAddict> I'm sure if you find it, they would spend months quadruple-checking it before it even goes public...
22:44 <d00m1001> PovAddict, probably..
22:46 <mweltin> hwo hard is a screen saver to make?
22:46 <d00m1001> Like, your own screen saver?
22:46 <mweltin> no for a BOINC project
22:46 <d00m1001> I wouldn't even know where to start.
22:47 <PovAddict> mweltin: no BOINC-specific code needed
22:47 <d00m1001> That would be a cool idea though... A custom BOINC screen saver skin site.
22:47 <mweltin> you just the wxWidgets or what?
22:48 <mweltin> do you need different ones for different platforms?
22:48 <PovAddict> mweltin: do you know any library that lets you do full screen *and* windowed graphics? most projects use OpenGL and GLUT
22:48 <mweltin> if so there is no way that will happen for TSP
22:49 <mweltin> I know about OpenGL and GLUT but only used OpenGL once a few years ago.
22:49 <PovAddict> for OpenGL I would personally stay away from GLUT (where it's hard to get anything done without resorting to global variables) and use SDL instead
22:49 <mweltin> is SDL a wrapper around OpenGL or what?
22:50 <mweltin> how does it tie in with the running app?
22:50 <PovAddict> well, it handles the "opening a window" and "handling events" parts, like GLUT
22:50 <PovAddict> and a lot of other stuff, for non-GL apps for example
22:50 <PovAddict> it's mostly oriented for games
22:51 <PovAddict> access to joysticks, cross-platform threads...
22:51 <mweltin> so can I write just one screen saver for all platforms?
22:52 <PovAddict> sure, or not
22:52 <PovAddict> your choice
22:52 <mweltin> will they have users have to download other libs to get it to work?
22:52 <PovAddict> OpenGL is bundled on most OSs
22:52 <mweltin> I made a gui with GTK once
22:52 <PovAddict> and you can bundle other libraries with your app...
22:53 <mweltin> was a pain in the butt to get anyone to use it bacuse htey have to intall some GTK libs. I already had them for gimp, but didn't realize it was going to so hard for other folks to use.
22:53 <PovAddict> well, gimp installer comes with gtk libs
22:53 <PovAddict> you could make your own app come with gtk libs as well, simple :)
22:53 <mweltin> I noticed there is a defaul BOINC screen saver.
22:53 <Soul_keeper> as far as a program's version is concerned x.y.z would y be considered a subversion ? what names would you give to x y and z ?
22:54 <mweltin> will that call my screen saver?
22:54 <PovAddict> mweltin: yes
22:54 <Soul_keeper> x = major version y = subversion z = minor version ?
22:54 <PovAddict> x is major, y is minor, not sure what z would be
22:55 <mweltin> ok so I don't have to make a different apps. just a screen saver.
22:55 <MTughan> Revision?
22:55 <PovAddict> mweltin: a screensaver is a separate app currently
22:55 <mweltin> how would I access the slot dir ?
22:55 <mweltin> I figure I coudl put some dynamic data there.
22:56 <PovAddict> mweltin: actually, it would be more efficient to make both apps talk to each other without having to use files (like having screensaver read checkpoint)
22:56 <PovAddict> Soul_keeper: wikipedia says: major.minor[.revision[.build]]
22:56 <Soul_keeper> ok thanks
22:57 <mweltin> that souds like ti will require OS specific stuff.
22:57 <Soul_keeper> well i'm not ready yet for a major version, yet the addition of a gtk frontend and a new modular design warrants the most substantial version change i'm ready for i suppose
22:58 <PovAddict> mweltin: BOINC provides x-platform calls to use shared memory
22:58 <PovAddict> (wrapping around the platform-specific code)
22:58 <mweltin> good times
22:59 <mweltin> now if I can just find some sucker to build it for me.
23:01 <mweltin> does the boinc code come with an example screensaver? It has samples for everything else.
23:01 <PovAddict> the sample uppercase application has graphics
23:02 <mweltin> right on
23:02 <mweltin> not sure why I want to bother, but it seems cool.
23:05 <mweltin> I'm off for a nap
23:05 <mweltin> later
23:05 <MTughan> Bye.
23:05 <mweltin> my dog ate a bunch of trash yesterday.
23:05 <mweltin> he got mud butt real bad and kept waking me up to let him out.
23:05 <mweltin> later
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23:13 <MTughan> Gah... It's not my internet that's the problem here. Turns out it's my damn wireless connection.
23:14 <MTughan> Says I have full (or nearly full) signal strength, but it can't be that with the way it's dropping out.
23:16 <MTughan> And just dropped again. >_>
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23:33 <MTughan> That should help. Got a wireless repeater in place.
23:41 <MTughan> Wow... Disk Utility will not make a disk image of a CD for the life of me. I have to resort to command-line tools for this. Not that there's anything wrong with that...
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23:45 <Soul_keeper> "i'm jewish miss sanderson, there is no hell!"
23:46 <MTughan> Movie?
23:47 <Soul_keeper> law and order (some lawyer), just thought that was funny
23:47 <MTughan> Ah. lol
23:47 <Soul_keeper> hmmm gtk is confusing me
23:48 <Soul_keeper> signal handlers bla
23:48 <MTughan> Damn mousepad.
23:50 <Soul_keeper> g_signal_connect (G_OBJECT (button), "clicked", G_CALLBACK (callback), (gpointer) "button 1");
23:50 <Bad_At_Home_> evening everyone
23:50 <MTughan> 'lo BAH
23:51 <Soul_keeper> i need to modify/remove/replace that in some way so it just calls a function(); of my choice instead of delivering data to that static void callback()
23:51 <Bad_At_Home_> Bah ?
23:51 <Bad_At_Home_> ok lol
23:51 <MTughan> Bad_At_Home_.
23:51 <MTughan> BAH.
23:51 <Bad_At_Home_> wasup in somoa
23:51 <Bad_At_Home_> my spelling sucks
23:52 <d00m1001> Hey, are your tasks usually very long? Such as, take about 870 hours to complete 1.
23:52 <Bad_At_Home_> what wu
23:52 <d00m1001> Any
23:52 <Bad_At_Home_> cpn
23:53 <Bad_At_Home_> i dont do bbc climate change
23:53 <Bad_At_Home_> thats the only one i know thats that long
23:53 <d00m1001> Yeah..
23:53 <d00m1001> The climate one is.
23:53 <Bad_At_Home_> yep
23:53 <d00m1001> My other ones are 31-71 hours.
23:53 <MTughan> Ah, dammit. ISO's either corrupted or ripped wrong. >_>
23:53 <Bad_At_Home_> mega credits though\
23:54 <d00m1001> Do 30-70 hours sound right?
23:54 <d00m1001> For Einstein and SETI
23:54 <MTughan> I usually get 16h WUs for E@H.
23:54 <Bad_At_Home_> 4 hrs seti onan 3200 moble amd
23:54 <d00m1001> I guess my computer is just lacking.
23:54 <Bad_At_Home_> for seti
23:54 <d00m1001> 128MB RAM
23:54 <Bad_At_Home_> ow
23:55 <Bad_At_Home_> thats a problem
23:55 <d00m1001> I dedicated a spare lappy to BOINC
23:55 <d00m1001> So, it works.
23:55 <d00m1001> Just kind of slow....
23:55 <Bad_At_Home_> what cpu
23:55 <d00m1001> Whatever though right? Doesn't really matter, as long as it gets the job done.
23:55 <Bad_At_Home_> what cpu
23:56 <d00m1001> GenuineIntel
23:56 <d00m1001> Pentium III (Coppermine) [Family 6 Model 8 Stepping 10]
23:56 <Bad_At_Home_> have you got ducks seti app
23:56 <efc> Those were good ones
23:57 <d00m1001> ducks seti app? no.
23:57 <Bad_At_Home_> you running seti
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23:57 <d00m1001> Yeah
23:58 <Bad_At_Home_> wait one will have a link
23:58 <Soul_keeper> wow i'm completely not getting the information i want from reference manuals