IRC logs of #boinc for Saturday, 2007-12-22

00:02 <MTughan> Tank_Master: How long do the really big ABC WUs take on your computer?

00:03 <Tank_Master> 6-9h

00:04 <Tank_Master> most 6-7

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00:04 <Tank_Master> but on rare occasions up to 9h

00:04 <MTughan> All right, so a 16h one on a 32-bit may be a little longer than expected, but that would be one of them.

00:04 <Tank_Master> what CPU?

00:04 <MTughan> Intel Core Duo, 2.0GHz.

00:04 <Tank_Master> Ive seen a 22h on a 64bit P4

00:04 <MTughan> No, it's a newer processor.

00:05 <Tank_Master> is on your system (if comparing to mine) long WUs would take 15-25h or so

00:06 <Tank_Master> but you do get 1,000 points for then

00:06 <MTughan> So 16h is right about in the range. I have another one that's looking like it'll be 17h.

00:06 <Tank_Master> any WU over about 14-15h will be 1k credits

00:06 <MTughan> Okay, that's what I wanted to know. Thanks.

00:06 <Tank_Master> you should go 64bit

00:06 <Tank_Master> itll cut the time in half

00:06 <MTughan> The one factor: money.

00:07 <Tank_Master> ?

00:07 <MTughan> The one problem with Apple is to upgrade the CPU or vid card, you need a new computer. And with the parts that are in my P4, it would be cheaper to get a new system.

00:07 <MTughan> And I just can't afford that right now.

00:08 <Tank_Master> you can change out the CPU

00:08 <Tank_Master> its just a standard core2

00:08 <MTughan> Try getting a new CPU in a 478 pin slot.

00:08 <Tank_Master> Ive read about people upgrading their MACs to a quad

00:08 <MTughan> And I'm not about to hack the CPU out of my Mac.

00:09 <Tank_Master> arent all macs core2s?

00:09 <MTughan> They are now.

00:09 <MTughan> They were all Core Duos when I got this one.

00:09 <Tank_Master> whernt they always?

00:09 <MTughan> Not when the Intel Macs first came out.

00:09 <Tank_Master> I dont htink its a socket 478

00:09 <Tank_Master> huh

00:09 <MTughan> No, my P4 is.

00:10 <Tank_Master> thought they jumped in when the core2s came out

00:10 <Tank_Master> oh well

00:10 <MTughan> The Core Duo would be a socket 775.

00:10 <Tank_Master> then yeah, you defently need a new comp if its only a P4

00:10 <MTughan> My PC is, yeah.

00:11 <MTughan> I'll need to replace it soon. The only thing that's really up to date is the video card, and even that's getting outdated.

00:11 <Tank_Master> lol

00:11 <MTughan> Although it's better than the Intel sh*t in my Mac.

00:11 <Tank_Master> onboard?

00:11 <MTughan> The Intel chip is integrated, yeah.

00:11 <MTughan> GMA950.

00:11 <Tank_Master> bummer

00:11 <MTughan> Shared 64MB RAM.

00:12 <MTughan> P4 Vid Card: ATI Radeon 9600XT, 128MB RAM dedicated, AGP.

00:12 <MTughan> AGP8x if I remember correctly...

00:12 <Tank_Master> yep

00:13 <MTughan> That's the only thing that's above the lower end cards.

00:13 <MTughan> Even the HDs, which are SATA, are outdated. They're SATA 1.

00:13 <MTughan> I do have a DVD+-R DL burner though... That can be salvaged, for sure.

00:14 <MTughan> And don't even get me started on the RAM... PC400. :P

00:14 <Tank_Master> lol

00:15 <MTughan> It was a really nice machine when I got it. However, I got it 3 years ago.

00:15 <Tank_Master> theres no different in performance betwrrn SATA1 and 2

00:15 <Tank_Master> yeah, I got several of those at work

00:15 <Tank_Master> P4 socket 478

00:15 <Tank_Master> some dont have AGP slots

00:15 <MTughan> Maybe not with the 7200RPM drives, but you might notice it with 10,000 or 15,000 RPM drives.

00:15 <Tank_Master> no

00:15 <MTughan> No?

00:16 <Tank_Master> My 10,000 drives arent capible of reaching the 150MB/sec xfer

00:16 <MTughan> What do they reach?

00:16 <Tank_Master> only 80MB max read

00:16 <efc> maybe a touch on a cache burst, but how often is there a disk cache burst that isn't already in ram cache..

00:16 <MTughan> Oh wow...

00:16 <Tank_Master> the cash will make ise the the SATA2, but thats it

00:17 <MTughan> Well, I can salvage the drives then. I have a 120GB and a 160GB, so I saved about $100-$150. :P

00:17 <MTughan> MB, CPU, GPU, RAM, all need to be replaced...

00:18 <MTughan> Not quite sure what the rating on the PS is, but it might work.

00:18 <Tank_Master> so you might as well get a new comp

00:18 <MTughan> Well, I build my own, and I like the case.

00:18 <MTughan> But yeah, basically a new computer.

00:18 <Tank_Master> defently big enough HDs for BOINC ;)

00:18 <MTughan> Big enough for Vista too...

00:19 <Tank_Master> defently

00:19 <MTughan> Although I think I'll stick with at least an XP install to go along.

00:19 <MTughan> I believe I can install XP/Vista as many times as I want on as many computers as I want, as long as only one copy of it is booted at once.

00:20 <wdsmia> &insult MTughan and Tank_Master

00:20 <Romulus> MTughan and Tank_Master - You are nothing but an off-color pile of hugger-muggered carpet.

00:20 <MTughan> What?

00:20 <MTughan> Hmm... Intel C2Q, 2.4GHz... $300, not a bad price.

00:21 <MTughan> Oh, and I have an aftermarket Zalman cooler too. It has mountings for 775, so I can use that for sure.

00:21 <Soul_keeper> well that trumps amd's new quad at 2.3GHz for 300 bucks, before it even hits the shelves

00:22 <MTughan> And that's CDN...

00:22 <Tank_Master> zalman maks some good stuff

00:22 <PovAddict> &currency convert 300 cdn usd

00:22 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: You used an incorrect currency symbol.

00:22 <PovAddict> lolwut

00:22 <Tank_Master> CAD

00:22 <MTughan> &currency convert 300 CAD to USD

00:22 <Tank_Master> for canadian

00:22 <Romulus> MTughan: 300.00 cad = 302.34 usd

00:22 <PovAddict> &currency convert 300 cad usd

00:22 <Romulus> PovAddict: 300.00 cad = 302.34 usd

00:22 <Tank_Master> lol

00:22 <PovAddict> ah they're close anyway

00:22 <Soul_keeper> :)

00:22 <MTughan> Yeah, it's not much different.

00:23 <PovAddict> CDN = Content Delivery Network

00:23 <MTughan>

00:23 <Tank_Master> we should merge the currency's

00:23 <Romulus> <> (at

00:23 <Tank_Master> like the eurocrap

00:23 <Soul_keeper> lol

00:23 <MTughan> For where I live, I'd go to the Mississauga or Brampton location.

00:23 <Soul_keeper> then we'd be the northcrap or whatever

00:23 <MTughan> Both of which have a nice supply of them.

00:23 <Soul_keeper> and what if mexico wanted to join ?

00:24 <MTughan> NAFTA.

00:24 <Tank_Master> lol

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00:24 <Soul_keeper> &currency convert 300 peso usd

00:24 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Error: You used an incorrect currency symbol.

00:24 <Soul_keeper> &currency convert 300 mex usd

00:24 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Error: You used an incorrect currency symbol.

00:24 <Tank_Master> is mexico wanted to join, we tell them to clean up their act first

00:24 <Soul_keeper> &currency convert 300 mexp usd

00:24 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Error: You used an incorrect currency symbol.

00:24 <Tank_Master> stop sending people over the boarders illegally

00:25 <Soul_keeper> &currency convert 300 fxmx usd

00:25 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Error: You used an incorrect currency symbol.

00:25 <wdsmia> well need to get some sleep... nn all

00:25 <Soul_keeper> &currency convert 300 mexd usd

00:25 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Error: You used an incorrect currency symbol.

00:25 <MTughan> &currency convert 300 MXN USD

00:25 <Romulus> MTughan: 300.00 mxn = 27.72 usd

00:25 <MTughan> :D

00:26 <MTughan> Not much, is it?

00:26 <Tank_Master> bout frikin time

00:26 <Soul_keeper> so like ~3 to 1

00:26 <Tank_Master> we should just buy mexico

00:26 <MTughan> For what?

00:26 <Soul_keeper> 3.6 to 1

00:27 <MTughan> For a conversion rate? More about 36 to 1.

00:27 <Soul_keeper> 27 dollars turns into 300 peso's

00:27 <MTughan> &math 300/27.72

00:27 <Romulus> MTughan: 10.8225108225

00:27 <MTughan> Ah, close to 10 to 1.

00:27 <Soul_keeper> ahhh i was thinking 100

00:28 <MTughan> &cad

00:28 <Romulus>

00:28 <MTughan> Hehe... Ethan, you idiot...

00:29 <PovAddict> rofl

00:29 <MTughan> "An alarm?! Are you freaking serious?!"

00:30 <Tank_Master> hehe

00:30 <Tank_Master> yeah

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00:30 <Tank_Master> cept what girl wares shorts to bed?

00:30 <SantaWab> someone has a girlfriend here>

00:30 <MTughan> Who knows?

00:30 <MTughan> &cad

00:30 <Romulus>

00:31 <MTughan> That's what we're currently discussing...

00:32 <SantaWab> I thought girls only wore sexy lingerie

00:32 <MTughan> lol

00:32 <PovAddict> you have watched too much porn

00:32 <Tank_Master> lol

00:32 <SantaWab> of course I do not have a girlfriend

00:32 <Tank_Master> to bad

00:32 <SantaWab> there should be BOINC project to catalog all porn

00:33 <PovAddict> I know somebody who wrote a program to find image similarity

00:33 <PovAddict> so we could use that

00:34 <SantaWab> which girl has appeared in the most amatuer videos

00:34 <PovAddict> lol well that needs some more complex image processing

00:34 <PovAddict> to recognize faces n stuff

00:34 <Tank_Master> sounds like a good use for BOINC!

00:34 <SantaWab> better use than vtu@home

00:34 <PovAddict> but image similarity is *great* to get absolutely rid of any duplicate

00:35 <Tank_Master> hehe

00:35 <PovAddict> get an image, save it in lower-quality JPEG, add a caption, and it can *still* be recognized as a duplicate of the original

00:36 <PovAddict> youtube should use it, so many idiots re-uploading popular videos

00:36 <efc> It seems like there would be some rotation-independent variation of a Fourier transform that could compare images

00:37 <efc> Just looked at your cartoon.. Yes thats why I don't have a GF! really ...

00:37 <SantaWab> hehehe

00:38 <SantaWab> not many of us IRC hangerouters have girlfriends

00:38 <Tank_Master> nope

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00:39 <efc> ;(

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00:47 <ChristmasCoder> re-hi

00:47 <ChristmasCoder> 12:47am - awake again

00:48 <ChristmasCoder> &weather 45140

00:48 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: Temperature: 48.4F / 9.1C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016.1hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 4.6mph / 7.4km/h ; Overnight - Mostly cloudy with patchy fog. Lows in the mid 40s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy. Highs in the upper 50s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Gusts up to 25 mph in the afternoon.; Saturday Night - Cloudy. A (1 more message)

00:48 <ChristmasCoder> &more

00:48 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: slight chance of showers in the evening...then showers likely after midnight. Breezy with lows in the lower 40s. Southeast winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 35 mph...becoming south 15 to 25 mph with gusts up to 50 mph after midnight. Chance of rain 70 percent.;

00:48 <ChristmasCoder> hmm, 50 mph

00:51 <ChristmasCoder> that will take care of the Apache fog

00:56 <Bad_At_Home> &weather 86023

00:56 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Temperature: 13F / -10.6C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: in / hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 1mph / 1.6km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 11 on the North Rim to around 18 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Highs around 32 on the North Rim to around 50 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Saturday Night - Partly cloudy. (1 more message)

00:56 <Bad_At_Home> &more

00:56 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Lows around 10 above on the North Rim to around 16 along the Colorado River. Light winds.;

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01:14 <MTughan> Off to do some reading... May not be back until tomorrow.

01:20 <ChristmasCoder> bye

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03:58 <quail> what do people think of the Me TV web site now >>>

03:58 <Romulus> Title: Me TV, it's TV for me computer (at

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05:10 <Romulus> Title: Game : Dark Horizons: Lore Invasion :. GarageGames (at

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06:23 <TheJollyRedGiant> &weather ymml

06:23 <Romulus> TheJollyRedGiant: Temperature: 52°F / 11°C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 29.86in / 1011hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 22mph / 35km/h | Updated: 10:00 PM EST; Chance of Rain. High:59 F. / 15 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:44 F. / 7 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:64 F. / 18 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:50 F. / 10 C.; Chance of Rain. High:62 F. / 17 C.; Scattered Clouds. (1 more message)

06:23 <TheJollyRedGiant> brrr...and this is summer!

06:43 * ChristmasCoder falls out of bed

06:45 * ChristmasCoder finds, to his delight, he is in the presence of the Ghost of Christmas Present, TheJollyRedGiant

06:45 <ChristmasCoder> morning TJRG

06:45 <ChristmasCoder> Paul

06:46 * ChristmasCoder jumps up and down, waving

06:46 <ChristmasCoder> TheGasGiant

06:46 * ChristmasCoder tries to think of more names to call

06:47 <TheJollyRedGiant> hey you! sometimes works

06:47 <ChristmasCoder> hey Aussies

06:47 <ChristmasCoder> lol

06:47 <ChristmasCoder> Hey Ewe

06:47 <TheJollyRedGiant> good moaning Don

06:48 * TheJollyRedGiant looks for the sheep

06:48 <ChristmasCoder> hello you big lump of gas

06:48 <TheJollyRedGiant> big ball of gas....

06:48 <ChristmasCoder> it's cold outside

06:48 <TheJollyRedGiant> big bladder of gas

06:48 <TheJollyRedGiant> yep

06:48 <ChristmasCoder> you've condensed

06:48 <TheJollyRedGiant> winter temperatures

06:48 <TheJollyRedGiant> brrrr

06:49 <ChristmasCoder> but ready to sublimate

06:49 <TheJollyRedGiant> &weather ymml

06:49 <Romulus> TheJollyRedGiant: Temperature: 52°F / 11°C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 29.86in / 1011hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 20mph / 32km/h | Updated: 10:30 PM EST; Chance of Rain. High:59 F. / 15 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:44 F. / 7 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:64 F. / 18 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:50 F. / 10 C.; Chance of Rain. High:62 F. / 17 C.; Scattered Clouds. (1 more message)

06:49 <ChristmasCoder> better put on a sweater

06:49 <ChristmasCoder> happy solstice

06:49 <TheJollyRedGiant> still in shorts and a t-shirt

06:49 <ChristmasCoder> cold you please send the sun back this way now?

06:50 <TheJollyRedGiant> my dad and I were wondering if it was today or yesterday

06:50 <ChristmasCoder> the shortest day for us is today

06:50 <TheJollyRedGiant> I see XP SP3 RC is available

06:50 <TheJollyRedGiant> ahh,,,

06:51 <ChristmasCoder> the definitive release - will outlast Vista

06:51 <TheJollyRedGiant>

06:51 <Romulus> <> (at

06:54 <ChristmasCoder> an update to "an older, more familiar experience"

06:55 <TheJollyRedGiant> good for the folks who like the tried and true

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06:56 <TheJollyRedGiant> i'm going to head off to bed Don....hopefully get some more sleep than last night

06:57 <ChristmasCoder> okey - thx for hanging around for me to show up

06:57 <ChristmasCoder> tc Paul

06:57 <TheJollyRedGiant> have a good Saturday and I'll be back in 7 or 8 hrs

06:57 <TheJollyRedGiant> u2

06:57 <ChristmasCoder> oh excellent - I shall

06:57 <TheJollyRedGiant> &cya

06:57 <Romulus> TheJollyRedGiant: Error: You need to have PySQLite installed to use this plugin.  Download it at <>

06:57 <TheJollyRedGiant> &bye

06:57 <Romulus> later ace

06:57 <ChristmasCoder> buh-bye

06:58 <TheJollyRedGiant> <gone>

06:58 * ChristmasCoder slinks away in search of breakfast

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07:56 <xcamel> re-hi

08:10 <ChristmasCoder> hi

08:10 <ChristmasCoder> off to the grocery store - bbl

08:10 <xcamel> have fun..

08:10 <ChristmasCoder> the high point of the week

08:11 <Tank_Master> :)

08:11 <xcamel> uh-huh

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08:45 <xcamel> &weather 12074

08:45 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 25.2F / -3.8C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 30.51in / 1033.1hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Highs in the mid 30s. South winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Cloudy. A chance of freezing rain...light sleet and rain after midnight. Lows in the upper 20s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation 30 percent.; (1 more message)

08:45 <xcamel> &more

08:45 <Romulus> xcamel: Sunday - Rain. Breezy and not as cool with highs in the upper 40s. Southeast winds 15 to 25 mph. Gusts up to 50 mph in the afternoon. Chance of rain 90 percent.; High Wind Watch for Saratoga County in effect until 2:00 AM EST on December 24, 2007;

08:46 <xcamel> hmmm...

08:46 <xcamel> you still there TGG?

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09:08 <xcamel> 'lo BB

09:10 <Bad_At_Home> Morning Jay

09:11 <Bad_At_Home> &weather 86046

09:11 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Temperature: 26.2F / -3.2C | Humidity: 42% | Pressure: 23.71in / 802.8hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs 31 to 39. Northeast winds around 15 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows 5 to 13. Light winds.; Sunday - Partly cloudy. Highs around 39. Light winds.;

09:11 <xcamel> any snow left?

09:11 <Bad_At_Home> &weather 86023

09:11 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Temperature: 0F / -18C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 30.47in / 1032hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs around 31 on the North Rim to around 49 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows around 9 above on the North Rim to around 19 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Sunday - Partly cloudy. Highs (1 more message)

09:11 <Bad_At_Home> sure

09:11 <Bad_At_Home> &more

09:11 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: around 32 on the North Rim to around 52 along the Colorado River. Light winds.;

09:12 <xcamel> really pretty out there with a little frosting on the rim...

09:12 <Bad_At_Home> lol what a differance one in town the other not lol

09:12 <Bad_At_Home> yep

09:13 <xcamel> drove down through oak creek canyon in the snow once... that was "interesting"

09:13 <Bad_At_Home> i need to get a fire started

09:13 <Bad_At_Home> lol i bet

09:13 <xcamel> (thought sure I was going to die... twice)

09:14 <Bad_At_Home> that is a narrow road

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09:14 <xcamel> really needed that triple espresso when I got down into sedona...

09:14 <Bad_At_Home> lol

09:15 <xcamel> drove on down to camp verde - it was sunny and 60

09:15 <Bad_At_Home> i saw a state trooper have to drive an rv down it

09:15 <Bad_At_Home> the people could'nt

09:16 <Bad_At_Home> well talk in a min going to work

09:16 <xcamel> at least the POS SUV I had had a decent set of AWS tires..

09:17 <Bad_At_Home> thats nice

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09:18 <Bad_At_Home> my old 4x4 gets down it with no problems

09:20 <xcamel> salt river canyon in a heavy rainsrom was another story...

09:20 <xcamel> even small flas floods scare the s**t out of me...

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09:21 <xcamel> er flash floods even

09:22 <Bad_At_Home> got to reboot for updates brb

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09:36 <BadBarbarian> back

09:39 <xcamel> a couple updates here, but no reboot..

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10:06 <BadBarbarian> had to hump in some firewood lol

10:06 <BadBarbarian> new install on xp x64 lol

10:26 <wdsmia> &weather 50265

10:26 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 29F / -2C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 29.91in / 1013hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 20mph / 32km/h ; Rest of Today - Rain or snow likely or areas of drizzle in the morning...then snow in the afternoon. Blowing snow in the afternoon. Breezy. New snow accumulation of 4 to 5 inches. High in the mid 30s. Temperature steady or slowly falling in the afternoon. (2 more messages)

10:26 <wdsmia> &more

10:26 <Romulus> wdsmia: Northwest wind 10 to 15 mph increasing to 15 to 25 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy. Snow in the evening...then a slight chance of snow after midnight. Blowing snow in the evening...then areas of blowing snow after midnight. Breezy...colder. Snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches. Total snow accumulation 5 to 7 inches. Low around 15. Northwest wind 20 to 25 (1 more message)

10:26 <wdsmia> &more

10:26 <Romulus> wdsmia: mph with gusts to around 35 mph. Chance of snow 80 percent.; Sunday - Mostly cloudy. Breezy...colder. Areas of blowing snow. High 15 to 20. West wind 20 to 25 mph with gusts to around 35 mph.; Winter Storm Warning for Warren County in effect until 6:00 AM CST on December 23, 2007;

10:34 <ChristmasCoder> re-hi

10:34 <ChristmasCoder> &weather 45140

10:34 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: Temperature: 50.5F / 10.3C | Humidity: 95% | Pressure: 30.08in / 1018.5hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 10.6mph / 17.1km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Mild. Highs in the upper 50s. Southeast winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Showers...mainly after midnight. Breezy...mild. Lows in the mid 40s. South winds 15 to 25 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Sunday - Mostly cloudy (1 more message)

10:34 <ChristmasCoder> &more

10:34 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: with rain showers likely early in the morning...then partly sunny in the afternoon. Breezy and colder. Early highs in the upper 40s...then temperatures falling into the upper 30s in the afternoon. Southwest winds 20 to 25 mph with gusts up to 45 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.;

10:35 <ChristmasCoder> hmm windy

10:35 <ChristmasCoder> bbiab

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10:49 <ChristmasCoder> wb desti

10:49 <desti> hi

10:49 <ChristmasCoder> howdy

10:51 <PovAddict> o/

10:51 <ChristmasCoder> hello PovAddict

10:54 <ChristmasCoder> Happy Solstice Day

10:54 <PovAddict> SP3 doesn't look like something I need

10:54 <ChristmasCoder> please send the sun back north, Nic

10:55 <ChristmasCoder> You vill take your SP upgrade, and you vill like it

10:56 <PovAddict> it says it includes all previous updates

10:56 <PovAddict> I wonder if that includes WGA

10:56 <PovAddict> I have always manually avoided that "update" from installing

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10:58 <ChristmasCoder> it includes WGA2, I read

10:58 <ChristmasCoder> "This update to Windows XP provides support for WPA2, the latest standards-based wireless security solution derived from the IEEE 802.11i standard."

10:58 <ChristmasCoder> oops

10:59 <ChristmasCoder> maybe you were saying something else

10:59 <PovAddict> genuine advantage

11:00 <PovAddict> it's actually "non-genuine disadvantage"... if yours is genuine, it all works the exact same as before installing it... if it's not, everything gets crippled

11:00 <ChristmasCoder> I think it does, did you read the overview?

11:00 <ChristmasCoder>

11:00 <Romulus> <> (at

11:00 <PovAddict> that's what I was reading

11:01 <PovAddict> I saw no mention of wga but I bet it has it...

11:03 <ChristmasCoder> "As in Windows Server 2003 SP2 and Windows Vista, users can now complete operating system installation without providing a product key during a full, integrated installation of Windows XP SP3. The operating system will prompt the user for a product key later as part of Genuine Advantage."

11:03 <PovAddict> that seems to be for new installs only

11:04 <ChristmasCoder> that's the way it reads

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11:08 <PovAddict> I won't risk

11:08 * PovAddict 's windows installation ain't genuine

11:08 <PovAddict>

11:08 <Romulus> Title: Linux Genuine Advantage (at

11:08 <PovAddict> "an exciting and mandatory new way for you to place your computer under the remote control of an untrusted third party"

11:14 <ChristmasCoder> sorta like my local utility wanting control of the off switch on my central air in the summer

11:15 <ChristmasCoder> I read that and said - you've got to be kidding me

11:15 <PovAddict> the sourcecode is even more funny

11:15 <PovAddict> # we'll be nice and wait this many days before making the user's computer less useful.

11:16 <PovAddict> my $grace_period = 30;

11:16 <PovAddict> # adds a line to /etc/inittab so this program will perpetually run as a daemon.

11:16 <PovAddict> # this will ensure that this copy of Linux is validated for Genuineness and Advantageousness constantly.

11:21 <ChristmasCoder> lol

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11:33 <ChristmasCoder> wb BiteAbleKat

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11:39 <dererk> guys, is Seti@home server down?

11:40 <PovAddict> no, seems it's all working

11:40 <PovAddict> no work available though

11:40 <PovAddict> hmm

11:40 <dererk> Oh

11:40 <dererk> Uhm

11:40 <dererk> How could it be possible?

11:40 <dererk> Did we reach all the cosmos already? :D

11:40 <PovAddict> technical news says: "Happy Holidays! As a present, thumper (our main science database) crashed for no reason this morning."

11:40 <PriitM_> im not getting work since morning

11:40 <PriitM_> and it's evening here

11:41 <dererk> oh oh oh oh

11:41 <dererk> I though it was my problem. Ok then :-)

11:41 <dererk> PovAddict, PriitM_ thanks :D

11:41 <PriitM_> oh wait, i actually got some work 4 hours ago

11:41 <PriitM_> anyways yeah, no work:

11:41 <Romulus> Title: Server status page (at

11:42 <dererk> ouch

11:43 <dererk> OMG @ jocelyn resources

11:43 <dererk> * jocelyn: Sun V40z (4 x 2.2GHz Opteron, 28 GB RAM)

11:43 <PovAddict> lol

11:45 <PovAddict> vader says 4x dualcore 16GHz

11:45 <PovAddict> obviously a typo o.0

11:46 <dererk> lol!

11:46 <dererk> yeah, but it's quite impressing isn't it? :D

11:46 <PovAddict> 16GHz would explode so bad

11:46 <dererk> hahahaha

11:47 <PovAddict> I remember some guys who managed a 5GHz overclocking with liquid nitrogen as cooler

11:47 <dererk> 16Ghz x 4 = 64Ghz = Gooooooood processing powa :P

11:47 <PovAddict> and it's a record

11:47 <PovAddict> so I doubt SETI managed 16GHz :)

11:47 <dererk> hahhah

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11:51 <PovAddict>

11:51 <Romulus> Title: meat.rtf (at

11:52 <PriitM_> if CPU would be stable at this speed I'd buy one really fast

11:52 <PriitM_>

11:52 <Romulus> Title: CPU-Z Validator Database (at

11:52 <quail> TRUCK!

11:52 <PovAddict> lol PriitM_, wtf!

11:52 <PriitM_> i belive that's oc record

11:52 <PriitM_> at least while ago it was

11:53 <PriitM_> 8ghz :>

11:53 <dererk> hahaha

11:56 <PriitM_> wow, this 'OC' is rather impressive:

11:56 <Romulus> <> (at

11:56 <PovAddict> how did he manage to boot?

11:57 <PriitM_> makes me think as well

11:58 <PriitM_> perhaps fsb and multiplier adjustments were done with clockgen in windows

12:01 <PovAddict>

12:01 <Romulus> Title: XP Minimal-Requirement-Test (at

12:03 <PriitM_> it's probably slow as 90 year old climbing the stair

12:04 <PovAddict> they managed 100% usage when idle

12:04 <PovAddict> 30 minutes boot time

12:04 <PriitM_> at 8mhz :D

12:04 <PovAddict> yep

12:04 <PovAddict> XD

12:05 <PriitM_> awful

12:05 <PovAddict> I need a slow computer to do performance tests on my own programs

12:06 <PriitM_> I lately gave my 333mhz box away

12:06 <PovAddict> I had a 400mhz

12:06 <PriitM_> ran win xp pro with less services really well

12:06 <PovAddict> it's now on a school

12:07 <PriitM_> brb, my xchat menu bar has gone away

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12:07 <PovAddict> ah, stable software :)

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12:07 * dererk points a gun at PovAddict ;)

12:07 <PovAddict> why

12:07 <PovAddict> :|

12:07 <dererk> PovAddict, xchat is the boss ;D

12:08 <PovAddict> PriitM: my Pentium IV 3.0GHz replaced the Pentium II 400MHz on my sister's bedroom, and we got a new AMD dual core 4200+

12:08 * dererk appollogies... he has seen American Ganster 3x

12:08 <PriitM> I got 4200+ as well

12:08 <PovAddict> my BOINC credit slope went up a bit :)

12:09 <dererk> ahahahah

12:09 <PovAddict> although the P4 doesn't run 24/7

12:09 <PriitM> I belive the CPU has faulty IHS or I'm just an awful thermal grease applier

12:09 <PriitM> runs kinda hot

12:09 <dererk> he

12:09 <dererk> it use to happen when cpu is running 100% 7/24 :P

12:10 <PovAddict> dererk: my Pentium IV ran at 100% for around two years

12:10 <PovAddict> not strictly 24/7, but reached a 30-day uptime once

12:10 <PriitM> well it's 36-38C in idle with cool and quiet turned on(0.3V less than stock voltage)

12:10 <PovAddict> PriitM: 36-38C? I never saw a CPU that cool :)

12:10 <dererk> PovAddict, hohoho

12:11 <PovAddict> my P4 used to reach 40C when idle and in winter... 70C+ was the usual when on full load!

12:11 <PriitM> under load at default voltage it's 53-55C depending on room temperature and amount of dust on heatsink

12:11 <dererk> my amd64x2 is that coold always

12:11 <dererk> 38º running default fan

12:12 <PovAddict> dererk: are you on the north pole or south pole?

12:12 * dererk doesn't trust overclocking

12:12 <PriitM> I got 'uber cool gamers fan' asus silent squrare

12:12 <PriitM> square*

12:12 <dererk> PovAddict, hahahaha

12:12 <dererk> not at all

12:12 <PovAddict>

12:13 <dererk> I live in argentina, a not-quite-cool place on summer

12:13 <dererk> PovAddict, O_o

12:13 <PovAddict> :o

12:13 <PovAddict> me too!

12:13 <dererk> PovAddict, chamigo! :)

12:13 <PovAddict> XD

12:13 <dererk> PovAddict, \o

12:13 <PriitM> CPU Temp:  +53.5C

12:13 <PriitM> just applied new grease(AS5) and new silent cooler :>

12:14 <dererk>

12:14 <Romulus> Title: paste zone (at

12:14 <xcamel> back for a bit..

12:14 <dererk> it's possible that my sensor detection are completely wrong, but, it's a possibility :)

12:14 <dererk> PriitM, that's the problem

12:15 <dererk> my default fan, when cpu get really used (usually while compiling)

12:15 <PovAddict> dererk: what username do you use on boinc?

12:15 <dererk> the fan get REALLY loadly noise

12:15 <PovAddict> I can't find you on stats by dererk

12:15 <dererk> PovAddict, dererk too :P

12:15 <dererk> PovAddict, Umhmmm, I've just joined

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12:15 <PovAddict> oh that 'splains it

12:16 <dererk> (just ~ 4 hours thou :P)

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12:16 <PriitM> well last fan was ~1800rpm and should be 18dB, altough it went quite noisy. Now I got something by artic cooling and its more quiet on 2200rpm than asus fan at 1900rpm

12:16 <PovAddict>

12:16 <Romulus> <> (at

12:16 <dererk> oh, nice

12:17 <dererk> PovAddict, yes

12:18 <dererk> PovAddict, are you from BA ?

12:18 <PovAddict> yes

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12:18 <PovAddict> wow many new arg. users:

12:18 <Romulus> <> (at

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12:19 <dererk> PovAddict, since when are you involved here?

12:19 <PovAddict> more than i expected at least

12:19 <dererk> hahaha

12:19 <PovAddict> SETI join date says: 30 Mar 2005 19:14:35 UTC

12:19 <dererk> LMAO

12:19 <dererk> Administrador  24.47 291 Argentina 18 Dec 2007 5:33:18 UTC <---

12:20 <PovAddict> what about it

12:20 <dererk> well, quite little imaginagion about nick I guess :P

12:20 <dererk> it's the default of > windoze xp

12:21 <PovAddict> there are lots of idiots who install BOINC under the default admin user on Windows, BOINC sets the initial account username to the computer username, and said idiots don't change it

12:21 <dererk> hehe

12:21 <dererk> that's the point :)

12:23 <ChristianB> Hi Boys

12:24 <Tank_Master> sup?

12:24 <PovAddict> and girls

12:24 * PovAddict points at BiteAbleKat and wonders who else

12:26 <quail> TRUCK!

12:26 <dererk> he

12:29 <ChristianB> PovAddict: Do you know anything new about the weak key mechanism?

12:30 <PovAddict> nope, there was no more talking about it

12:31 <ChristianB> thats odd

12:31 <xcamel> girls?

12:31 <xcamel> where?

12:31 <Tank_Master> at the tity bar

12:32 <ChristianB> I thought my proposal would start a discussion about this

12:32 * ChristmasCoder wanders back to his desk

12:32 <Tank_Master> I still think a secondary password that only can attach hosts would be a better idea

12:32 * xcamel is headed back out side after lunch

12:33 <ChristmasCoder> same here, xcamel

12:33 <Tank_Master> hf

12:33 <ChristmasCoder> lunch is done

12:33 <Tank_Master> dont get lost  out there ;)

12:33 <ChristmasCoder> that would only happen if I fall down the hill

12:34 <Tank_Master> uhh... havent see that happen before, can you try it?

12:35 <ChristmasCoder> I've only done it 3 times here so far

12:35 <ChristmasCoder> and fallen down the deck steps once

12:35 <Tank_Master> ouch

12:36 <ChristmasCoder> great phun

12:36 <quail> TRUCK!

12:36 <ChristmasCoder> if Santa brings me what I asked for, I'll be able to show you

12:37 <BadBarbarian> Morning Quail

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12:37 <quail> ChristmasCoder: hey Don how are you bloke

12:37 <quail> hey BadBarbarian

12:37 <ChristmasCoder> nearly a broke bloke

12:38 <quail> ChristmasCoder: leave a reply on my bloke

12:38 <quail> blog

12:38 <quail> s/bloke/blog

12:39 <quail> brain been running over time since I left TAFE

12:39 <ChristmasCoder> left?

12:39 <quail> this part of what I been up to >>>

12:39 <Romulus> Title: Me TV, it's TV for me computer (at

12:40 <quail> I have recoded the web site

12:40 <PovAddict> "It's TV for me computer" -> "It's TV for my computer"?

12:40 <quail> and I have been beta test and backtracing

12:40 <quail> PovAddict: it aussie slang

12:42 <quail> Me TV 0.5.0 is going to be great

12:42 <quail> but there no set release date for but it be early new year

12:43 <quail> my friend that doing the coding I think he hates me with my beta testing

12:44 <quail> cause I can break Me TV

12:44 <ChristmasCoder> well - outside with me - local temp says 58F

12:44 <ChristmasCoder> bbl

12:45 <Tank_Master> hf

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12:45 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86023

12:45 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 26F / -3.3C | Humidity: 35% | Pressure: in / hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 5mph / 8.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs around 31 on the North Rim to around 49 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows around 9 above on the North Rim to around 19 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Sunday - Partly cloudy. Highs around (1 more message)

12:45 <BadBarbarian> &more

12:45 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: 32 on the North Rim to around 52 along the Colorado River. Light winds.;

12:57 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

12:57 <Tank_Master> &more

12:57 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 39.7F / 4.3C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1021.9hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Rain. Highs around 45. South wind 10 to 20 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers. Lows in the mid to upper 30s. South wind 5 to 15 mph.; Sunday - Rain likely in the morning...then rain in the afternoon. Highs around 45. (1 more message)

12:57 <Romulus> Tank_Master: South wind 15 to 20 mph.;

12:57 <Tank_Master> im seeing a pattern develop there

13:02 <MTughan> Aiee... Pricing up components, looks like it'll cost me about $1000 to replace the MB, CPU, GPU, and RAM.

13:03 <MTughan> Looking at an AMD Phenom Quad-core 2.3GHz, an Asus MB, PC2-8500 RAM, and an ATI chipset GPU.

13:04 <MTughan> I'm just wondering how I can put Vista 64-bit on it... Because it's an upgrade version, and I don't have XP x64.

13:05 <MTughan> Or if it'll upgrade XP x86 and still have 64-bit performance.

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13:05 <MTughan> 'lo zombie

13:05 <zombie67> hwllo

13:06 <MTughan> Looking to replace some of the components in my P4 system to upgrade the CPU. Looking like it'll cost me about $1000.

13:07 <PriitM> get 3.2ghz pentium EE, 2gb ram, 9800pro and be happy :O

13:07 <PriitM> or you got 775socket?

13:07 <MTughan> Hehe... It's a 478 socket.

13:08 <PriitM> 478 is fun

13:08 <PriitM> i like it

13:08 <MTughan> Although you can't find processors for it anymore.

13:08 <PriitM> computer forums ;)

13:09 <MTughan> New processors, I mean.

13:09 <PriitM> well yeah, new processors are rare

13:09 <PriitM> i saw some 478 being sold as new

13:09 <PriitM> few months ago here

13:09 <MTughan> There's not a whole lot that's faster for 478 than what I have. 2.8GHz P4 Prescott, HT.

13:09 <PriitM> were 1.6ghz or so

13:10 <MTughan> The big problems with it are that it's single-core and 32-bit.

13:10 <MTughan> The AMD Phenom is quad-core and 64-bit.

13:10 <MTughan> I could also go for an Intel C2Q 2.4GHz for the same price.

13:11 <PriitM> ffs i thought this was one other channel :/

13:11 <MTughan> lol

13:11 <MTughan> C2Q:

13:11 <Romulus> <> (at

13:11 <MTughan> Phenom:

13:11 <Romulus> <> (at

13:12 <MTughan> I hadn't looked for parts compatible with that, but I am now...

13:12 <MTughan> The nice thing about going with the AMD though is I can use ATI parts.

13:13 <MTughan> I can still use an ATI GPU with the Intel, but there's less compatibility now since AMD took over ATI.

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13:17 <MTughan> Oh, and about the 3.2GHZ P4 EE suggestion: I can't even get a P4 anymore.

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13:25 <PriitM> ebay is your friend :>

13:25 <PriitM> risky friend

13:25 <MTughan> Meh.

13:25 <MTughan> I'd still like more than a dual-core and 32-bit.

13:25 <MTughan> Because that's what I have in my Mac right now anyway.

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13:26 <PriitM> well you can go for socket 939 amd

13:26 <PriitM> rather cheap and you can use your existing rams

13:26 <MTughan> Phenom is a socket AM2+.

13:26 <PriitM> but 939 has bunch of dual cores :>

13:27 <MTughan> And I'd rather go new. I don't think 939 supports quad.

13:27 <PriitM> i belive it's dual only

13:27 <MTughan> Exactly.

13:27 <PriitM> well max is dual

13:28 <PriitM> computer hardware is rather expensive

13:28 <PriitM> i should make my own in the basement

13:28 <MTughan> If I had the money, I'd buy a Mac pro and go for the dual quad-cores.

13:28 <MTughan> But I have to salvage the parts I have right now.

13:28 <MTughan> And I already make my own.

13:29 <MTughan> I would never buy prefinished computers except from Apple because you can't have it any other way.

13:29 <PriitM> i once bought some computer built by noobs in computer store

13:29 <PriitM> i got ripped off

13:30 <PriitM> they installed pirated version of windows 98se on it

13:30 <PriitM> i belive it was year 2000 or 2001 back then

13:31 <MTughan> Yes, well that's why I make my own.

13:31 <MTughan> Buy the parts, and assemble it yourself.

13:31 <PovAddict> fun

13:31 <efc> Too bad Win2K doesn't support quad.. (under certain reasonable assumptions)

13:31 <MTughan> It's not that hard. And 'lo PovAddict.

13:31 <MTughan> 'lo e

13:31 <MTughan> Does XP support quad? Or will it just support how many processors you have?

13:31 <PovAddict> efc: why would you want to install win2k?

13:32 <MTughan> Win2K and XP are quite similar.

13:33 <MTughan> Anyway, I have some stuff I need to do. Bye for now.

13:33 <PovAddict>

13:33 <Romulus> <> (at

13:33 <PovAddict> yes it does

13:34 <efc> Because its what I use

13:35 <efc> Is that shot from Server?

13:36 <PovAddict> no, that's XP

13:36 <PovAddict> doesn't say if it's professional edition - probably

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13:38 <BadBarbarian> cores dont mater xp supourts 2 cpus

13:39 <zombie67> xp home = 1 chip

13:39 <zombie67> xp pro = 2 chips

13:39 <BadBarbarian> xp x64 ?

13:39 <PovAddict> for purely legal reasons

13:39 <zombie67> don't know about xp64

13:39 <zombie67> TM will know

13:39 <BadBarbarian> i think its 2

13:40 <zombie67> the # of cores doesn't matter, just the # of chips

13:40 <BadBarbarian> could be more sense its based on 2003 server

13:42 * wdsmia is back from chipping ice

13:43 <efc> 2k doesn't know about cores.. thinks cores=chips

13:44 <BadBarbarian> 2 cpus i looked

13:44 <BadBarbarian> for xp x64

13:46 <zombie67> makes sense

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14:04 <quail> w0w it getting day light

14:05 <wdsmia> w0w its snowing :P

14:05 <quail> hey Doug

14:06 <wdsmia> chipped 2 inches of ice off the driveway just in time for 7 inches of new snow

14:07 <quail> it 0537 hours here

14:07 <quail> I have almost been up fr 3 days

14:07 <wdsmia> 13:08 here

14:08 <quail> couple hours more and this old man will get 3 days awake

14:09 <wdsmia> why?

14:09 <quail> damn I wish I was younger again

14:09 <wdsmia> dont we all

14:09 <quail> wdsmia: I have been compiling and beta testing

14:10 <PovAddict> 3 days?

14:10 <PovAddict> and you're still alive?

14:10 <PovAddict> I wouldn't be

14:10 <quail> and doco writing

14:11 <quail> PovAddict: when I was younger a week was not out the question

14:11 <PovAddict> crazy

14:11 <quail> yeah it gets like too

14:11 <quail> as it is now

14:12 <quail> caffeine not the kick it used too

14:14 * wdsmia has abused caffeine for so many years it now puts him to sleep

14:14 <efc> I pretty much quit caffeine.. no effect at *zzzzzz*

14:15 <quail> wdsmia: I am on turkish coffees atm

14:15 <quail> and I drinking the mud

14:16 <quail> the turkish coffee mud that is :-)

14:16 <wdsmia> after 3 days thats the only thing keeping you alive lol

14:16 <quail> it is sort of

14:17 <quail> but I had couple beers atm and they bombing me out

14:17 <quail> I am on my third and think not far from bed

14:18 <quail> well bed not far from me

14:18 <wdsmia> next thing on my list today is to clean my keg lines so I can tap a new barrel

14:18 <quail> mmm

14:18 <quail> I like homebrewed beer

14:19 <xcamel> re-hi

14:19 <quail> hey Jay

14:19 <wdsmia> I used to homebrew dont have the time nowdays :(

14:19 <wdsmia> *lo Jay

14:20 <quail> xcamel: how are you and the tribe

14:20 <xcamel> good enough

14:20 <quail> xcamel: love the snow over your property

14:21 <quail> xcamel: can you send some of it to me please

14:21 <quail> pritty please

14:21 <quail> :-P

14:24 <xcamel> sorry...

14:27 <quail> :-(

14:29 <quail> hey xcamel Me TV is going great, and the next release there going to be alot improvements

14:30 <quail> and I been doing bit work on the web site and this close file bases >>>

14:30 <Romulus> Title: Me TV, it's TV for me computer (at

14:30 <efc> hmm, the new KITT is to be a Mustang, I love those but it just doesn't seem right..

14:30 <Romulus> <> (at

14:33 <siofwolves> efc, awesome.

14:36 <xcamel> the old KITT is for sale on Ebay...

14:36 <efc> they need an epsisode where the HOFF gets pulled over for DUI, stuffing 20 big macs in his mouth and washing em down with Jack ...

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14:39 <xcamel> lol - my rain bucket is melting again - 12.69" and counting...

14:40 <xcamel> indeed, efc

14:40 <xcamel> I almost feel sorry for him...

14:43 <efc> The Car, or The Hoff ..

14:43 <efc> Add a new gadget to the list - Breathalyzer Defeater

14:56 <xcamel> bad idea

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14:59 <efc> "Michael, I think you've had a few too many"

15:00 <MTughan> I don't drink.

15:00 <PovAddict> neither alcohol or coffee

15:00 <Tank_Master> then you r dead?

15:00 <Tank_Master> I at least drink water and milk

15:00 <PovAddict> <smartass name="Tank_Master"/>

15:00 <MTughan> Fine. I don't drink alcohol.

15:01 * ChristmasCoder very rarely drinks alcohol - only wine at a social dinner

15:01 * ChristmasCoder isn't very social either

15:01 <efc> "Michael, get off the bathroom floor. Its very cold."

15:02 <PovAddict> o.o

15:02 <PovAddict> being social? wutz that?

15:03 <ChristmasCoder> &dict social

15:03 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: moby-thes: 73 Moby Thesaurus words for "social": affable, affair, amiable, amusing, associated, associational, at home, civic, civil, clubbable, clubbish, clubby, coalitional, collective, collectivistic, common, communal, communicative, communistic, community, commutual, companionable, companionate, compatible, congenial, conjoint, convivial, (8 more messages)

15:03 <ChristmasCoder> ah - "AT HOME" - I am VERY social then

15:03 <PovAddict> lol

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15:04 <ChristmasCoder> oops

15:04 <MTughan> lol

15:04 <PovAddict> oops that was me :<

15:04 <ChristmasCoder> Rommie is anti-social

15:05 <ChristmasCoder> ah a boinc-projects e-mail...

15:05 <ChristmasCoder> yoyo, Nic and David

15:06 <ChristmasCoder> "If it ain't broke, you haven't tweaked it enough yet."

15:06 <PovAddict> been my sig for a while

15:06 <ChristmasCoder> yup

15:06 <ChristmasCoder> so - I have a moral dilemma

15:07 <quail> wb ChristmasCoder

15:08 <ChristmasCoder> a "litttle sister of the poor" in Guatemala sends the former owner of this house 3 nickels, hoping he'll send them back, with a few more - she supplies self-addressed stamped envelope

15:09 <ChristmasCoder> enclosed is a letter giving a passionate plea that she will need to turn away hundreds of children needing assistance

15:09 <ChristmasCoder> what should my response be?

15:10 *** mweltin is now known as mw_away

15:10 <ChristmasCoder> 1) keep the 3 nickels and remove the unused stamps from the return envelope?

15:11 <ChristmasCoder> 2) put the 3 nickels in the envelope and mail them back, without including identigying information?

15:11 <quail> ChristmasCoder: you hard arse bastard

15:12 <quail> :-P

15:13 * wdsmia votes for #1 .... Bah Humbug

15:13 * quail agrees with wdsmia

15:15 * wdsmia daughts first pint in quail honor

15:15 * LumpyLarry same with me #1

15:16 <ChristmasCoder> ok - majority rule

15:16 * LumpyLarry nurses hot xmas cider to try and breakup head cold - should stay home but debating shareing the joy

15:17 <LumpyLarry> after all some one there shared it with me

15:18 * LumpyLarry hates it when envelopes containing coins go thru machines

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15:23 * TheJollyRedGiant yawns

15:23 <TheJollyRedGiant> &weather ymml

15:24 <Romulus> TheJollyRedGiant: Temperature: 50°F / 10°C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h | Updated: 7:00 AM EST; Chance of Rain. High:59 F. / 15 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:44 F. / 7 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:64 F. / 18 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:50 F. / 10 C.; Chance of Rain. High:62 F. / 17 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:42 (1 more message)

15:24 <efc> Little Sisters of the Poor seems to be some mission

15:24 <TheJollyRedGiant> &more

15:24 <Romulus> TheJollyRedGiant: F. / 6 C.;

15:24 <efc> I wouldn't think the church would pull stuff like that, though

15:24 <TheJollyRedGiant> moo eddie

15:24 <efc> Moo JRG

15:26 <TheJollyRedGiant> all ready for xmas?

15:27 <MTughan> Nice... Tank_Master: The 17h WU I had before is looking like 20h now.

15:28 <ChristmasCoder> helloooooo TheJollyRedGiant

15:28 <TheJollyRedGiant> hola ChristmasCoder

15:28 <ChristmasCoder> The " Little Sisters of the Poor" was my characterization efc

15:29 <TheJollyRedGiant> looks like I've got a cosmo wu heading for 30hrs

15:29 <ChristmasCoder> actually "Sister Michaela" no last name

15:30 <MTughan> I had some 20+h E@H WUs, but that's about the longest I've had...

15:30 <MTughan> Heard CPDN WUs can take a week or two though.

15:30 <TheJollyRedGiant> try a month or 2...

15:30 <wdsmia> or more

15:30 <MTughan> See, I don't crunch CPDN.

15:30 <ChristmasCoder> or more more

15:31 <ChristmasCoder> then they error

15:31 <MTughan> Damn it! Camino's crashed twice today!

15:31 <TheJollyRedGiant> lol

15:31 <ChristmasCoder> Camino crash?  That would put the clone army behind schedule

15:32 <MTughan> Good, there's an update. Hopefully it fixes this.

15:32 <TheJollyRedGiant> camino?

15:32 <MTughan> Native FF port for OS X.

15:32 <ChristmasCoder> The planet in Star Wars where the clone army was, er, grown

15:32 <MTughan> Kamino, not Camino.

15:33 <ChristmasCoder> sounds the same to me...

15:33 <MTughan> They do. They're spelled differently though.

15:33 <TheJollyRedGiant> FF?

15:33 <MTughan> Firefox.

15:33 <ChristmasCoder> I kant spelt

15:34 <TheJollyRedGiant> oh...2 things I don't care that much about ;)

15:35 <TheJollyRedGiant> I see MC is having a 2 day shutdown on the 27th and 28th

15:36 <TheJollyRedGiant> and there increasing the deadlines for the duration

15:36 <TheJollyRedGiant> their

15:36 <TheJollyRedGiant> what nice people

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15:40 * TheJollyRedGiant slaps freenode

15:41 <TheJollyRedGiant> &ping

15:41 <Romulus> pong

15:41 <TheJollyRedGiant> ahh

15:41 <TheJollyRedGiant> bbiab

15:41 <wdsmia> &ding

15:41 <Romulus> DONG!

15:45 <ChristmasCoder> &weather 45140

15:45 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: Temperature: 57.3F / 14.1C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 29.94in / 1013.8hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 8.1mph / 13.0km/h ; This Afternoon - Mostly cloudy. Mild. Highs in the upper 50s. Southeast winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph.; Tonight - A chance of showers in the evening...then showers after midnight. Breezy with lows in the upper 30s. South winds 15 (1 more message)

15:46 <ChristmasCoder> first day of winter - 57F

15:46 <wdsmia> &weather 50265

15:46 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 25F / -4C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 29.88in / 1012hPa | Conditions: Snow | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h ; Rest of Today - A chance of rain and snow late in the morning... then snow in the afternoon. Blowing snow in the afternoon. Breezy. Snow accumulation of 3 to 4 inches. High in the mid 30s. Temperature steady or slowly falling in the afternoon. Northwest wind 10 (2 more messages)

15:46 <ChristmasCoder> &more

15:46 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: to 25 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Sunday - Mostly cloudy with a chance of rain showers in the morning...then partly sunny in the afternoon. Breezy and colder. Early highs in the mid 40s...then temperatures falling into the mid 30s in the afternoon. Southwest winds 20 to 25 mph with gusts up to 45 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.;

15:46 <wdsmia> *more

15:46 <wdsmia> &more

15:46 <Romulus> wdsmia: to 15 mph increasing to 15 to 25 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy. Snow in the evening...then a chance of snow after midnight. Blowing snow in the evening...then areas of blowing snow after midnight. Breezy...colder. Snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches. Total snow accumulation 4 to 7 inches. Low around 15. Northwest wind 20 to 25 mph with gusts to around (1 more message)

15:46 <wdsmia> &more

15:46 <Romulus> wdsmia: 40 mph. Chance of snow 90 percent.; Sunday - Mostly cloudy. Breezy...colder. Areas of blowing snow. High 15 to 20. West wind 20 to 25 mph with gusts to around 35 mph.; Winter Storm Warning for Warren County in effect until 6:00 AM CST on December 23, 2007;

15:46 <ChristmasCoder> and more and more

15:47 <ChristmasCoder> "Wdsmia's dreaming of a white Christmas..."

15:47 <ChristmasCoder> "One with blowing and drifting snow..."

15:48 <ChristmasCoder> "Where the treetops are missing..."

15:48 <MTughan> WTF?

15:48 <ChristmasCoder> "And phone poles are listing..."

15:49 <MTughan> That's a lot of wind...

15:49 <ChristmasCoder> "From snowplows sliding into them from below..."

15:49 <wdsmia> been there seen it thats why I dont live in wyoming anymore

15:50 * ChristmasCoder loves a good carol

15:54 <ChristmasCoder> bbl

15:54 <ChristmasCoder> talk amongst yourselves while I'm gone  =)

16:02 <LumpyLarry> lol - more like hack and sneeze and try to stop up the fire hydrant i call a nose

16:03 <LumpyLarry> &weather 98366

16:03 <Romulus> LumpyLarry: Temperature: 39F / 4C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 30.11in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 16mph / 26km/h ; Today - Rain. Highs in the lower to mid 40s. South wind 10 to 20 mph.; Tonight - Showers likely in the evening...then cloudy with a chance of showers after midnight. Lows in the mid to upper 30s. Southwest wind to 10 mph.; Sunday - Rain. Highs in the (1 more message)

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16:03 <LumpyLarry> &more

16:03 <Romulus> LumpyLarry: mid to upper 40s. South wind 10 to 15 mph.;

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16:17 <mweltin> anyone here running TSP.

16:17 <mweltin> if so can you check to see if you ahve a ga workunit inprogress, and if it will finish in time?

16:17 <MTughan> Nope, all BruteForce.

16:30 <TheJollyRedGiant> I was doing some TSP, but the credit is low compared to nearly every project outthere...sry

16:34 <BadBarbarian> hi all

16:34 <mweltin> no not for the brute force, in fact they are higher

16:36 <MTughan> Oh, so close to 100K in E@H... 99319.03 credits...

16:39 <xcamel> RE-RE-HI

16:39 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

16:39 <TheJollyRedGiant> hola Jay

16:39 <xcamel> wazzup?

16:39 <PovAddict> mweltin:

16:39 <BadBarbarian> you have to listen to this channel

16:39 <Romulus> <> (at

16:39 <Romulus> Title: SomaFM: Recently Played Tracks (at

16:39 <TheJollyRedGiant> not alot

16:40 <mweltin> now what?

16:40 <PovAddict> mweltin: old post

16:40 <LumpyLarry> and a Merry(Grumpy) Christmas(BahHumBug) to all as the case maybe

16:41 <TheJollyRedGiant> hola Larry :)

16:41 <LumpyLarry> its the down under crew :)

16:41 <TheJollyRedGiant> :)

16:42 <LumpyLarry> got those seahorses all lined up for  your big day on tuesday

16:42 <mweltin> larry!

16:42 <mweltin> PovAddict, do you have an GA WU's?

16:42 <mweltin> from tsp

16:42 <LumpyLarry> howdy mweltin

16:42 <TheJollyRedGiant> not yet ace

16:42 <mweltin> can you estimate if they will finish on time.

16:42 <PovAddict> mweltin: do you have GA for Windows?

16:42 <mweltin> Crunch3r said to let the WU's ride, and I'm incluned to kill them.

16:42 <mweltin> yes, 32 and 64 bit.

16:43 * LumpyLarry thinks he has all the parts from santa to finish putting together a C2D

16:44 <PovAddict> downloading app

16:44 <TheJollyRedGiant> lucky Larry!

16:44 <PovAddict> crunching

16:44 <LumpyLarry> ;)

16:45 <PovAddict> mweltin:

16:45 <PovAddict> I'll see if I can add the CPU time too...

16:45 <TheJollyRedGiant> which cpu Larry?

16:45 <LumpyLarry> e6750

16:46 <TheJollyRedGiant> got it yet?

16:46 <LumpyLarry> yup on mb with 4 gig memory

16:46 <PovAddict> cool

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16:46 <PovAddict> better be 64-bit

16:46 <TheJollyRedGiant> gonna run vista or stick with XP?

16:46 <PovAddict> you can't use 4gb of memory on 32-bit

16:46 <LumpyLarry> got the vid card fans and what not to go with 1.5TB of hd's also

16:47 <LumpyLarry> thinking F7 PovAddict

16:47 <TheJollyRedGiant> f9 out yet?

16:47 <PovAddict> is the CPU 64bit?

16:47 <PovAddict> and mb 64-bit compatible

16:47 <LumpyLarry> yes PovAddict

16:47 <PovAddict> then you're fine

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16:47 <PovAddict> mweltin: cool, I thought you didn't have progress yet

16:48 <LumpyLarry> yes a major step back from last 'super' computer i got for 15 dollars - its going to donate the 3.5 and 5.25 drives

16:48 * TheJollyRedGiant wants to build a q6600, but......

16:49 <TheJollyRedGiant>

16:50 <mweltin> PovAddict, its slow but its working

16:50 <PovAddict> there, added CPU time:

16:50 <LumpyLarry> thinking of retiring either this one

16:50 <Romulus> <> (at

16:51 <LumpyLarry> or this one

16:51 <Romulus> <> (at

16:52 <TheJollyRedGiant> 2i'd retire the cerlery

16:52 * LumpyLarry understands wanting a q6600 but settled for a e6750

16:52 <PovAddict> mweltin: now added *total* estimated CPU time (ie. elapsed + estimated remaining)

16:52 <LumpyLarry> lol thats the one PovAddict has for nix

16:52 <TheJollyRedGiant> d'oh

16:52 * MTughan is looking at upgrading his P4 to a C2Q or a quad AMD

16:52 <TheJollyRedGiant> but it's soooo much slowere

16:53 <dererk> PovAddict, good eve night and happy new year if I don't talk to you then

16:53 <dererk> same to all

16:53 <dererk> bye

16:53 <PovAddict> bye dererk

16:53 <TheJollyRedGiant> &cya

16:53 <Romulus> TheJollyRedGiant: Error: You need to have PySQLite installed to use this plugin.  Download it at <>

16:53 <LumpyLarry> bye dererk

16:53 <TheJollyRedGiant> &bye

16:53 <Romulus> later ace

16:53 <PovAddict> dererk: seems you finally got some work

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16:54 <LumpyLarry> .me wonders if dererk wears velcro gloves

16:54 <LumpyLarry> dang fingers hit wrong key again

16:54 <PovAddict> mweltin: keep monitoring my ga WU using that image if you want :)

16:56 <mweltin> thanks, I have one running, and it looks like it will bee too close to call.

16:59 <LumpyLarry> well called in so guess its time for some bynidrol and bed to try and shake this cold

16:59 <LumpyLarry> &nn all

16:59 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

16:59 <MTughan> Night larry.

17:00 <TheJollyRedGiant> &nn LArry

17:00 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

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17:10 <mweltin> so PovAddict a quick look at it you got a little over 2% done in 30 min, so that means it should takea bout 1500min which is about 25 hours and the deadline is 29.

17:10 <mweltin> everything should be fine.

17:10 <PovAddict> the client estimates ~30 hours for the whole thing

17:11 <PovAddict> definitely will reach deadline, it's in a few days

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17:11 <mweltin> when is the deue date

17:11 <mweltin> ok

17:11 <mweltin> ok I'm not going to cancel those wu's then.

17:11 <PovAddict> due date is the 27th

17:14 <mweltin> I have one due on the 26 and its at 47% with 19.5 hrs in.

17:14 <mweltin> <mweltin> these are long wu's but they will finish in time.

17:14 <mweltin> <mweltin> wonder how many credits they are worth.

17:24 <TheJollyRedGiant> was just here searching for a dinosaur doco I thought I'd downloaded

17:25 <TheJollyRedGiant> oops...wrong channel :)

17:26 <PovAddict> hmm you're only in one channel

17:27 <TheJollyRedGiant> lol....that's what you think ;)

17:27 <PovAddict> secret channel or other servers?

17:27 <efc> Building Attack Dinosaurs Without a Permit? We'll Be Coming For You!

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18:03 <Rookie_69> I eventually realised that being "Bad At Home" means little when you're the only one there.

18:04 <xcamel> 'lo Glenn

18:04 <Rookie_69> Hi, Jay.

18:04 <xcamel> Happy Holidays..

18:05 <Rookie_69> Any nasty weather around?

18:05 <xcamel> hmmm.. if Don comes back we have almost the whole 'old crew'

18:05 <Rookie_69> &invoke CFL.

18:05 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Error: You need to have PySQLite installed to use this plugin.  Download it at <>

18:06 <Rookie_69> Guess not.

18:06 <xcamel> they're saying high wind warnings for tomorrow - possible thunder too..

18:06 <efc> &weather 30625

18:06 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 50F / 10C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 30.15in / 1021hPa | Conditions: Drizzle | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy. Chance of rain and areas of drizzle in the evening...then a chance of showers after midnight. Lows in the upper 40s. Near steady temperature in the upper 40s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation 50 percent.; Sunday - Showers (1 more message)

18:06 <xcamel> he's here - just AFK

18:07 <Rookie_69> Hi, Eddie.

18:07 <efc> Moo Rookie

18:08 <Rookie_69> 50F? Must be nice.

18:09 <Rookie_69> Local thermo says 24

18:09 <Rookie_69> F

18:10 <xcamel> 30.5 here - got up to 35

18:10 <xcamel> 48? and storms tomorrow ???

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18:10 <xcamel> you could be getting really big winds tomorrow too...

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18:11 <efc> Went running, but not far, need it to be about 60 to not hurt my lungs after a mile or so

18:12 <Rookie_69> No wind forecasted... probably will get it.

18:13 <PovAddict> &seen MTughan

18:13 <Romulus> PovAddict: MTughan was last seen in #boinc 1 hour, 13 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <MTughan> Night larry.

18:13 <MTughan> Yeah?

18:13 <PovAddict> --> ##konfabulator

18:13 <Rookie_69> Yeah!

18:14 <Rookie_69> Larry Weak?

18:14 <xcamel> well... off to a little xmas party with friends...

18:14 <Rookie_69> Be good.

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18:17 <Rookie_69> EFC really exercises?

18:18 <efc> Yeah, not as much as I'd like lately, but still do some

18:20 <Rookie_69> Just breathing hurts, so I gave up on exercise.

18:20 <wdsmia> re-hi

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18:21 <efc> I wanted to be able to run an 18 min 5k.. well, I didn't get there. Or close :p.

18:22 <efc> I had this vague idea that it would get me chicks

18:22 <Rookie_69> Lol.

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18:24 <efc> At least, I haven't gained a ton of weight like most of the jocks at my high school reunion

18:24 <Rookie_69> Rehi, Bad.

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18:25 <efc> gained some though, I'm up to about 143 lb, weighed probably 125 or less back then

18:27 <efc> not sure where it went.. a lot to my legs

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18:28 <Rookie_69> I usually weigh in at around 155 whether I diet or exercise or not.

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18:31 <Rookie_69> Re-rehi, BAH.

18:32 <Tank_Master> BAH?

18:32 * efc kicks off a P3-600 to stay warm

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18:34 <wdsmia> &insult Rookie_69

18:34 <Romulus> Rookie_69 - You are nothing but a saucyspleened tongueful of droning sores.

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18:36 <Rookie_69> &ignore WDSMIA

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18:45 <Rookie_69> Oh... Hi, Nic.

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18:49 <Rookie_69> Rererehi, BAH.

18:50 <Bad_At_Home> howdy

18:52 <Rookie_69> Arizona?

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18:53 <Rookie_69> Guess not.

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18:57 <wdsmia> wb

18:57 <Rookie_69> Stupid software.

18:58 <wdsmia> &weather 50265

18:58 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 20F / -7C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 29.90in / 1012hPa | Conditions: Snow | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 21mph / 33km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Snow in the evening...then a slight chance of snow after midnight. Areas of blowing snow through the night. Windy...colder. Snow accumulation of 1 to 5 inches. Total snow accumulation 5 to 10 inches. Low 10 to 15. Northwest wind 20 to 30 (2 more messages)

18:58 <wdsmia> &more

18:58 <Romulus> wdsmia: mph. Chance of snow 90 percent.; Sunday - Mostly cloudy. Breezy...colder. Areas of blowing snow. Scattered flurries. High 15 to 20. West wind 20 to 25 mph.; Sunday Night - Mostly cloudy then becoming partly cloudy in the late evening and early morning then becoming mostly cloudy. Low around 15. West wind 10 to 20 mph. Gusts up to 30 mph in the evening.; Winter Storm Warning for Warren County in effect (1 more message)

18:58 <wdsmia> &more

18:58 <Romulus> wdsmia: until 6:00 AM CST on December 23, 2007;

18:59 <Rookie_69> &weather yhz

18:59 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 18°F / -8°C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 30.64in / 1037hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 7:00 PM AST; Tonight - Clear. Increasing cloudiness overnight. Temperature steady near -6C(21F).; Sunday - Cloudy with sunny periods. Wind becoming south 20 km/h (12 mph) early in the afternoon. High 3C(37F). Sunday night cloudy. Periods (1 more message)

18:59 <Rookie_69> &more

18:59 <Romulus> Rookie_69: of rain beginning in the evening. Amount 5 mm(0.2 in). Wind south 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming southeast 30 km/h (19 mph) gusting to 50 km/h (31 mph) overnight. Temperature rising to 9C(48F) by morning.; Monday - Periods of rain. High 8C(46F).;

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19:00 <Rookie_69> Bad connection?

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19:32 <Rookie_69> Argentina...

19:33 <Rookie_69> ... as in... Don't cry for me Argintina...

19:33 <Rookie_69> ... or was itn

19:34 <Rookie_69> or was it Marge and Tina?

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19:55 <zombie67> BURP has work

19:56 <PovAddict> w00t

19:56 <PovAddict> I'm doing a tsp ga unit

19:56 <PovAddict> they're long...

19:56 <PovAddict> ~30 hrs

19:56 <PovAddict>

19:56 <PovAddict> that's: name (elapsed/total) progress%

19:57 <PovAddict> total = elapsed + estimated remaining

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19:57 <zombie67> hi TM

19:58 <zombie67> pov, what's the due date?

19:58 <PovAddict> 27/12/2007

19:58 <Rookie_69> POV is due???

19:58 <Rookie_69> Lol.

19:58 <PovAddict>

19:59 <Tank_Master> :P

19:59 <PovAddict> ok hmm

19:59 <PovAddict> I'm listing the statuses a task can be, client-side

19:59 <zombie67> ouch.  Wonder if my PII/linux box will be able to make that kind of timeline

19:59 <PovAddict> it can be suspended, which is independent from everything else

19:59 * Tank_Master is looking at getting a new vid card now

20:00 <Tank_Master>

20:00 <Romulus> <> (at

20:00 <zombie67> for running SETI?

20:00 <Tank_Master> no, UT3

20:00 <Tank_Master> but if I could use it for SETI, that would be cool

20:00 <PovAddict> it can be downloading/ready/running/preempted/uploading/ready to report, I need to think which of those are mutually-exclusive and which not

20:03 <zombie67> are there ga units for linux?

20:03 <PovAddict> it was available for linux before windows

20:03 <zombie67> is HR being used?

20:04 <PovAddict> I don't think so

20:04 <zombie67> is the linux app way faster for GA, like with BF?

20:04 <PovAddict> no idea

20:07 <zombie67> tsp rss just resent everything back to the 19th

20:07 <PovAddict> it had errors

20:08 <PovAddict> hmm wait... it's possible that the permalink changed...

20:08 <Rookie_69> Nytol.

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20:55 <zombie67> Projects with optimized apps:  SETI, APS, Enigma.  Any others?

20:57 <PovAddict> SIMAP gives somewhat-optimized-apps by default, you need to download something separately if your computer is old and doesn't support sse

20:58 <PovAddict> and you could compile the app yourself for any with open source

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21:13 <zombie67> thanks

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21:22 <Bad_At_Home> evening all sorry about the come and go ocing my quad

21:24 <zombie67> no harm done

21:25 <Bad_At_Home> lol 3060 core 340 mem

21:25 <Bad_At_Home> got some room for more lo55c temp

21:25 <Bad_At_Home> lol 55c

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