00:02 <MTughan> Wow, Leopard really uses more memory... Tiger usually had a virtual mem size of about 20-30GB. Leopard's bordering on 60GB.
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00:06 <MTughan> Keeps the real mem usage under fairly good control though... Only using 1.2GB of 2GB.
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00:06 <Soul_keeper> lol
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00:09 <MTughan> 'lo TeraBoy
00:10 <TeraBoy> greetings :)
00:42 <Tank_Master> ib
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01:18 <FreeLarry_> well soul not mplayer but installed vlc
01:18 <FreeLarry_> now can see the sessions from burp
01:19 <MTughan> I really missed a lot... Last message I saw was TM saying "ib".
01:19 <FreeLarry_> not much just dererk quit/rejoin and you with nick collision
01:20 <MTughan> Oh.
01:20 <FreeLarry_> mine refering to much earlier when Soul_keeper was testing on my machine
01:20 <dererk> lol
01:20 <dererk> In fact I did wrong tab'ing and missed query for quit :-/
01:20 <FreeLarry_> doing more package installations currently
01:21 <Soul_keeper> :)
01:21 <FreeLarry_> now to see what i installed
01:21 <Tank_Master> :)
01:21 <Tank_Master> id like to just be able to get my new game installed
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01:24 <FreeLarry_> my gparted takes long to scan
01:25 <FreeLarry_> etherape needs removal
01:25 <MTughan> Hey, Apple finally built partition resizing into Disk Utility...
01:28 <dererk> heh
01:33 <Tank_Master> bout time ;)
01:33 <Tank_Master> in 10.5?
01:33 <Tank_Master> Its probably because its linux? I dunno though
01:34 <Tank_Master> can you shrink a partition as well as expand?
01:34 <dererk> It's certainly not linux I guess
01:34 <Tank_Master> MAC OS 10.5 is linux, not BSD anymore
01:35 <MTughan> So I heard, haven't confirmed it.
01:35 <Tank_Master> yeah, they arent so straight forward with it
01:35 <dererk> WTF
01:35 <Tank_Master> I cant say I blame them (if its true)
01:36 <Tank_Master> who would want to spend that much for a linux distro?
01:38 <Romulus> Title: Mac OS X v10.5 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
01:38 <dererk> Doesn't mention nothing about that
01:39 <Soul_keeper> it can't be linux unless it's free, otherwise it'd violate gpl
01:39 <Tank_Master> not all linux flavors are free
01:39 <Soul_keeper> should still be darwin based ... but likely runs programs written for linux
01:39 <Tank_Master> (even if they *shoulg* be
01:39 <Soul_keeper> they are if they use the linux kernel
01:40 <Soul_keeper> you can't ship gpl with non-gpl
01:40 * dererk nods
01:40 <Soul_keeper> some charge for distros, but they offer them free as well "legally have to"
01:41 <dererk> They may contain gnu/gpled software, that would be much possible
01:41 <Soul_keeper> so basically you are paying for them to burn the cd/dvd for you or some kinda service
01:41 <dererk> PovAddict, still there neighbour?
01:42 <Tank_Master> and for the additiona apps, probably
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01:45 <dererk> I really envy how Apple took everything opensourced and made a great desktop
01:46 <Soul_keeper> well it's basically a unix kernel
01:46 <Soul_keeper> losely compatible with bsd/linux in most ways
01:47 <dererk> Yeap, and the webbrowser is based on Konqueror
01:47 <Soul_keeper> not sure if lgpl is compat with their licensing
01:47 <dererk> well, so long It's about 4am
01:48 <dererk> gotta sleep a bit, see you soon
01:48 <Tank_Master> gl
01:48 <dererk> same2you
01:48 <Tank_Master> gn*
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01:49 <Tank_Master> wb MT
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01:49 <Soul_keeper> late
01:49 <Tank_Master> bad!
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01:50 <Tank_Master> heh
01:50 <Tank_Master> he didnt stay long
01:52 <Soul_keeper> you scared him off
01:52 <Tank_Master> lol
01:52 <Tank_Master> apparently
01:52 <Soul_keeper> i think his internet connection is bad
01:52 <MTughan_> As is mine, for sure...
01:52 <Tank_Master> its wireless
01:52 <Soul_keeper> it was doing that all last week too
01:52 <Tank_Master> his ISP if "fixing" it
01:52 <Tank_Master> is*
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01:53 <Tank_Master> howdy MT
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02:23 <quail> afternoon all, how are we all?
02:23 <MTughan> 'lo quail
02:24 <quail> hey
02:24 <MTughan> Doin' pretty good... Getting Leopard back to the way it was and more.
02:24 <quail> :-)
02:25 <MTughan> I'm just glad Time Machine works... Saved my ass earlier.
02:31 <yoyo[RKN]> morning
02:31 <MTughan> 'lo yoyo
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02:51 <MTughan> Eep, almost 3AM...
02:51 <yoyo[RKN]> 9am
02:51 <MTughan> Germany, right?
02:51 <yoyo[RKN]> yes
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03:30 <Tank_Master> 12:30 am here
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03:54 <Tank_Master> we all asleep now?
03:58 <yoyo[RKN]> no
04:00 <Tank_Master> good
04:01 <yoyo[RKN]> I'm working on the validator
04:02 <Tank_Master> ahh
04:02 <Tank_Master> fun stuff
04:02 <Tank_Master> I just posted my hack to get UT3 to run on server 2008
04:03 <Tank_Master> frikin installer checked the OS version and they didnt allow newer OS version
04:03 <Tank_Master> so on server 2008 I got the message "Only can be istalled on Vista, or XP sp2, or server 2003"
04:04 <yoyo[RKN]> stupid software
04:04 <Tank_Master> no, just the installer
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04:04 <Tank_Master> cus once the files are extracted, you can launch the program just fine
04:04 <Tank_Master> ;)
04:05 <Tank_Master> MT!
04:05 <MTughan> Yeah, disconnected again... >_>
04:05 <Tank_Master> fun stuff
04:05 <MTughan> So true.
04:05 <Tank_Master> lol
04:05 <MTughan> And that was so rhetorical...
04:08 <MTughan> BOINC's gunning it for some WUs due in a couple of days... They'll be done though.
04:18 <Tank_Master> good
04:27 <Tank_Master> well, im off to bed
04:31 <yoyo[RKN]> sleep well
04:31 <yoyo[RKN]> <--- breafast
04:52 <MTughan> Gah, I really need to be off to bed myself... Night.
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05:32 <CoderForANewYear> &weather 45140
05:32 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: Temperature: 37.0°F / 2.8°C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 29.88in / 1011.7hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Cloudy with a slight chance of rain this morning...then partly sunny this afternoon. Highs in the mid 40s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Tonight - Mostly clear in the evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Lows (1 more message)
05:33 <CoderForANewYear> &more
05:33 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: in the lower 30s. East winds 5 to 10 mph.; Friday - Rain likely in the morning...then rain in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 40s. East winds around 10 mph... becoming south with gusts up to 25 mph in the afternoon. Chance of rain 90 percent.;
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05:58 <quail> CoderForANewYear: g'day Don, how are you mate?
06:00 <CoderForANewYear> morning quail - more importantly, how are you?
06:00 <quail> soso still battling on
06:01 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2007: Astronomy Pictures of the Year for 2007 (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)
06:01 <CoderForANewYear> hey quail - that beats the alternative
06:02 <quail> yep :-)
06:03 <quail> I go back to see the doctor next week and I will find out more
06:04 <CoderForANewYear> cool
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06:15 <wdsmia> mornin
06:17 <quail> hi Doug
06:20 <CoderForANewYear> hello Sir Doug of Iowa
06:21 <wdsmia> *lo quail
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06:22 <wdsmia> way to early for bad phun's there Don
06:23 <wdsmia> they on work after coffee :)
06:23 <wdsmia> err only
06:27 <hawmps> 'lo
06:27 <CoderForANewYear> hello Jay
06:27 <quail> hey Jay
06:27 <CoderForANewYear> back to work today?
06:28 <CoderForANewYear> brb biology beckons
06:28 <wdsmia> *lo Jay
06:30 * hawmps yawns
06:43 <CoderForANewYear> b
06:46 <quail> wb
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07:01 <ELGono> live streams from choas communication congress
07:33 * CoderForANewYear works on his annual review of his credit reports
07:34 <CoderForANewYear> TransUnion won't give me my report, as usual
07:34 <CoderForANewYear> no problem with Experian and Equifax
08:28 <hawmps> LifeLock works nicely too..
08:30 <CoderForANewYear> I just got off the phone with TransUnion. They won't ask the security questions online, you must call and experience their wonderful near-English customer service in order to get you report unlocked for viewing. Then attempt to log in 6 or more times after that to finally get your report.
08:31 * CoderForANewYear grinds his teeth
08:32 <CoderForANewYear> I haven't bothered with FICO scores today, since they cost money to get - just wanted to look to see that my credit reports look good (still)
08:35 <hawmps> this is bad >> Benazir Bhutto Critically Injured At Rally
08:36 <hawmps> another suicide attack
08:37 <CoderForANewYear> ack
08:37 <hawmps> yup
08:40 <CoderForANewYear> I'm getting delivery failure notices this morning - seems like someone is using e-mail address from my domain to try and spam others
08:44 <hawmps> now saying she was killed in the attack... even worse.
08:45 <CoderForANewYear> that's very bad
08:45 <hawmps> nice recap of APOD's
08:46 <CoderForANewYear> yup - I missed the Iapetus one - very cool
08:48 <hawmps> hmmm... tiny flakes of snow...
08:50 <CoderForANewYear> hope they stay that way
09:28 <CoderForANewYear> off to the barbershop and to run some errands - bbl
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10:07 <ELGono> mms://streaming-internet.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/saal1
10:07 <ELGono> nice one about e-voting now
10:28 <yoyo[RKN]> re
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11:12 <FreeLarry_> &weather 98366
11:12 <Romulus> FreeLarry_: Temperature: 34°F / 1°C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h ; Today - Snow developing this morning...possibly mixed with rain at times. Snow accumulation up to 2 inches. Highs in the mid to upper 30s. South wind 10 to 20 mph.; Tonight - Rain and snow showers in the evening...then rain showers likely after midnight. (1 more message)
11:13 <FreeLarry_> &more
11:13 <Romulus> FreeLarry_: Local snow accumulation up to 1 inch in the evening on higher hills. Temperatures near steady in the mid to upper 30s. Southwest wind 10 to 15 mph.; Friday - Showers likely. Breezy. Highs in the lower 40s. Southwest wind 10 to 15 mph increasing to 15 to 25 mph in the afternoon.; Snow Advisory for Kitsap County in effect until 6:00 PM PST on December 27, 2007;
11:13 <FreeLarry_> yuck interesting commute for today
11:13 <FreeLarry_> both directions
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11:16 <FreeLarry_> oh side note to PovAddict - installed virtualization modes on this machine if you want to try
11:17 <atoponce> so, to get a host working via the cmd line, i just run boinc_cmd --project_attach $BOINC_URL $BOINC_KEY?
11:17 <atoponce> i don't think that my host is doing any work
11:18 <PovAddict> atoponce: boinc_cmd --get_project_status
11:18 <PovAddict> if it outputs nothing, it's not attached to any project :)
11:19 <atoponce> it's attached, but 'top' doesn't show any heavy cpu load
11:19 <atoponce> although it did update on my hosts page on the project site
11:20 <PovAddict> what project(s)?
11:20 <atoponce> sha-1 collision search graz
11:20 <PovAddict> what URL are you attached to?
11:21 <FreeLarry_> first update for this machine
11:21 <Romulus> Title: SHA-1 Collision Search Graz (at boinc.iaik.tugraz.at)
11:21 <PovAddict> good
11:21 <PovAddict> they have work apparently...
11:21 <PovAddict> hmm
11:22 <atoponce> yeah. my other 3 hosts are burning through the work
11:22 <atoponce> of course, they're using the gui
11:22 <PovAddict> kinda hard to help you... boinc_cmd is hard to use...
11:23 <PovAddict> hmm
11:23 <atoponce> hmm. are there better commands than boinc_cmd?
11:23 <atoponce> i have 2 headless servers that need work. :)
11:23 <PovAddict> boinc_cmd is somewhat a 1:1 interface to the internal commands
11:23 <PovAddict> which suck
11:25 <PovAddict> boinc_cmd --get_messages 0 | nc 22.214.171.124 12302
11:25 <PovAddict> so I look at them directly :]
11:26 * PovAddict waits
11:27 <atoponce> what am i looking for?
11:27 <PovAddict> ^^ try that command
11:28 <atoponce> i did. it spit out a bunch of binary, and i needed to reset my terminal
11:28 <PovAddict> wow
11:29 <atoponce> SHA-1 Collision Search Graz 1 1198770133 Message from server: platform 'sparc-unknown-linux-gnu' not found
11:29 <atoponce> ^^ part of the messages output
11:29 <PovAddict> ahaa that explains everything
11:30 <atoponce> sparc not supported?
11:30 <PovAddict> very few projects do
11:30 <atoponce> my distro ships with the necessary tools
11:30 <desti> sparc linux is very rare
11:31 <PovAddict> sha1 only supports windows_intelx86, i686-pc-linux-gnu, and x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
11:32 <yoyo[RKN]> yoyo supports sparc
11:32 <PovAddict> wait, sparc linux? I'd say not a single project supports it... there isn't even an official platform name for it
11:33 <yoyo[RKN]> sparc solaris
11:33 <desti> simap does http://boinc.bio.wzw.tum.de/boincsimap/appdownloads.php
11:33 <PovAddict> wow :)
11:34 <hawmps> there is at least 4 people (boinc/beta) runing sparc
11:34 <PovAddict> on linux?
11:34 <hawmps> yup
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11:35 <PovAddict> atoponce: I found the reason why you got random binary junk
11:36 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007
11:36 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 36.6°F / 2.6°C | Humidity: 90% | Pressure: 30.02in / 1016.5hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Today - Snow developing beginning as rain and snow early. Snow accumulation 2 to 5 inches with highest amounts above 500 feet. Highs around 35. Southeast wind 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Showers. Snow level jumping above 1000 feet early. Lows (1 more message)
11:36 <Tank_Master> &more
11:36 <Romulus> Tank_Master: around 35. Southwest wind 10 to 15 mph.; Friday - Showers in the morning...then showers likely in the afternoon. Highs around 40. Southwest wind 5 to 15 mph.; Heavy Snow Warning for Washington County in effect until 6:00 PM PST on December 27, 2007;
11:36 <PovAddict> I saw that port forwarded on my router and used it (so that I didn't have to add another), but I forgot that was the BitTorrent one :)
11:36 <PovAddict> random binary junk was the bittorrent protocol handshake
11:38 <hawmps> hmmm... snowing...
11:39 <Tank_Master> now snow yet here
11:39 <PriitM> could anyone please suggest me some irc chatroom or big forums about about hard drives? :)
11:39 <PriitM> I belive my 400gb external died :/
11:39 <FreeLarry_> give it a couple hours Tank_Master
11:40 <Tank_Master> what happened to the drive?
11:40 <PriitM> well it was unused for like a week or two and now it spins up, blinks activity led 4x and then powers down
11:41 <Tank_Master> what brand?
11:41 <PriitM> WD
11:41 <Tank_Master> was it pluged in the entier time?
11:41 <PriitM> nope, unplugged
11:41 <Tank_Master> huh
11:42 <PriitM> rather new driver too - probably less than 600gb of data written on it
11:42 <Tank_Master> I blame global dimming for your problem ;)
11:42 <PriitM> drive*
11:42 <PriitM> global warming my butt :P it's quite cold in here
11:42 <Tank_Master> nono, dimming
11:42 <Tank_Master> not warming
11:43 <PriitM> :/ i'm so frustrated that I can't even read correctly :P
11:43 <Tank_Master> lol
11:43 <Tank_Master> I dont blame you
11:43 <Tank_Master> is it still under warenty?
11:43 <PriitM> yeah, but I got some of my pr0n collection there :<
11:43 * FreeLarry_ half and half rain snow at my house -- dimming is that another word for brown out?
11:43 <PovAddict> PriitM: #hardware?
11:44 <PriitM> thanks :>
11:44 <PovAddict> PriitM: is your data worth 89 dollars?
11:45 <PriitM> i belive not - i got backups on my PC of most stuff
11:45 <FreeLarry_> more likely he got hit by one of those anti-porn activist
11:45 <Tank_Master> no, poultion they say we put into the air is preventing as much sunlight from reaching the ground as it would be "with out humans", so they call it "global dimming"
11:45 <PovAddict> &math calc 185 * .206
11:45 <Romulus> PovAddict: 38.11
11:45 <Tank_Master> funny hting is that its slowing global warming ;)
11:46 <Tank_Master> anywho, ill bbl
11:46 <PovAddict> yeah
11:46 <PovAddict> they stop pollution and suddenly it gets hotter
11:46 <PovAddict> ...wtf?!
11:46 <atoponce> i thought that the client did the work processing just raw data. so why isn't sparc supported?
11:46 <atoponce> i guess i'm not exactly up to par with how the process works
11:47 <atoponce> shouldn't the data be platform-neutral?
11:47 <PovAddict> atoponce: the client downloads files, starts the project application, decides when to get work and what projects to run next, etc
11:47 <PovAddict> and that's it
11:47 <PovAddict> the client has no idea how to break sha1 hashes :)
11:47 <atoponce> right. i understand that
11:48 <PovAddict> if the sha1 project gives you the sourcecode of their app, you could compile it for sparc-linux
11:48 <atoponce> but if the client is compiled for the platform, then it just gets the files, and processes what's instructed
11:48 <PovAddict> "the files" includes an executable binary
11:48 <atoponce> ahh
11:48 <atoponce> that would explain it then
11:49 <atoponce> so, what projects supported sparc linux?
11:49 <atoponce> :)
11:49 <PovAddict> I think none, but on opensource projects you could just compile it yourself
11:49 <atoponce> true
11:50 <atoponce> not sure if i have the time to maintain a platform binary however
11:50 <atoponce> so, i need something for this sparc box to do then. :)
11:51 <PovAddict> if it is open source *and* isn't changing its app all the time... :)
11:58 <CoderForANewYear> back from getting a haircut
11:59 <CoderForANewYear> ok, I confess - I splurged and got *both* of them cut
12:00 <PovAddict> both hairs?
12:06 <CoderForANewYear> yup
12:07 <CoderForANewYear> not just a hair cut
12:07 <PovAddict> two hairs cut :)
12:07 <PovAddict> i thought you had more
12:07 <PovAddict> but maybe it was an old pic
12:07 <CoderForANewYear> correct - both of them
12:07 <CoderForANewYear> lol - true - the pic you saw was 10 years old
12:08 <PovAddict> a lot of hair disappears in 10 years
12:08 <CoderForANewYear> and the rest turns gray
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12:13 * hawmps is not touching this conversation
12:16 <CoderForANewYear> lol
12:18 <CoderForANewYear> I've been going to this barber for 40+ years. My dad's dad was a barber.
12:19 <CoderForANewYear> He passed away in 1963; so it's been 44 years.
12:21 <PovAddict> thunderbird isn't happy sorting 15000 emails
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12:48 <CoderForANewYear> I wouldn't be hapy either having to sort 15,000 emails
12:48 <CoderForANewYear> off to visit sister in the hospital - bbl
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13:20 <E-30> hey
13:26 <Tank_Master> yo
13:28 <E-30> hey tank master how are you doing
13:28 <Tank_Master> I broke 200k in WCG today :)
13:29 <E-30> ciool
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13:47 <efc> moo
13:56 <E-30> moo back
13:58 <MTughan> moo thrice
13:59 <E-30> lol
13:59 <E-30> so how is everyone doing
13:59 <MTughan> I stayed up till 5AM last night... >_>
13:59 <E-30> same here
14:00 <E-30> its 1 pm now
14:00 <efc> I'm trying to kick that habit
14:00 <E-30> jest got up about a hour ago
14:00 <MTughan> And my wireless was acting up again... At least two more disconnects last night.
14:00 <E-30> wow not cool
14:01 <E-30> well time to go start playing games again\
14:01 <MTughan> And I can't find an Ethernet cable long enough, so it sucks. Wireless repeater didn't really help either.
14:03 <Tank_Master> I got UT3 for xmas
14:03 <Tank_Master> so I had to play that a bit last night ;)
14:04 <MTughan> Actually, come to think of it, when it was in place I didn't disconnect, just "stopped" for half a minute or so.
14:04 <MTughan> lol, see ya.
14:10 <efc> What are you trying to connect?
14:10 <PovAddict> the internet and his computer
14:11 <PovAddict> I need a faster computer...
14:11 <PovAddict> like
14:11 <PovAddict> 100ghz will do
14:11 <PovAddict> and/or, povray devs should hurry on that multithreaded version...
14:11 <Tank_Master> octi-core, right?
14:11 <PovAddict> I can't even use multiple cores without splitting the image in tiles manually
14:12 <PovAddict> and starting up multiple instances
14:12 <PovAddict> (each eating 200MB of RAM :-\)
14:12 <efc> To do POV-ray stuff?
14:12 <PovAddict> yeah
14:12 <efc> Does it use the SMP instructions much?
14:13 <efc> err SMD i think
14:13 <PovAddict> it's C++, no hand-optimized assembler inside
14:13 <PovAddict> so it depends on what the compiler can do
14:13 <efc> Most can't do that. The Intel compiler can.
14:13 <PovAddict> the 3.7 betas have multithreading
14:13 <efc> But then depends on the application. I would think raytracing would be a good candidate.
14:13 <PovAddict> split image in tiles and assign them to threads
14:14 <PovAddict> but as opposed to the manual way, the scene data is only once in memory
14:14 <PovAddict> they're taking long because a lot of code was non-thread-safe...
14:14 <MTughan> Wow, last beta expired almost a month ago...
14:14 <MTughan> And only for Windows and Linux.
14:14 <PovAddict> there was some performance drop too
14:14 <efc> SMD would still help, if its the kind of code that can be helped
14:15 <MTughan> And efc: "The Linux binary package contains two executables, povray and povray-gcc, built with the Intel compiler and gcc respectively."
14:15 <PovAddict> due to caches that can't be global anymore
14:15 <efc> ah cool
14:15 <Romulus> Title: POV-Ray: Beta (at www.povray.org)
14:15 <PovAddict> yeah they use the intel compiler for the binary builds
14:15 <efc> the whole way that CMD code has developed has been dissapointing
14:15 <efc> SMD I mean
14:15 <PovAddict> but they can't add too much optimization, gotta keep it somewhat compatible with older processors
14:16 <PovAddict> the fastest way is compiling it yourself with optimizations targeted at your CPU
14:16 <MTughan> But that's without multicore then.
14:16 <PovAddict> yeah, till they finish 3.7...
14:17 <MTughan> Can you get the sourcecode for 3.7 beta?
14:17 <MTughan> Through a versioning system or something?
14:17 <PovAddict> no
14:17 <PovAddict> code is only available when the release is done, that's how it has always been
14:18 <MTughan> Nuts...
14:18 <PovAddict> also, the versioning system they use is Perforce
14:18 <MTughan> I though it was open-source?
14:18 <MTughan> thought*
14:18 <PovAddict> so even if they allowed outside access to their versioning system, you'd need to buy perforce to connect...
14:18 <MTughan> Ah.
14:19 <PovAddict> also, source is available, but it's not open source in the way FSF would agree...
14:19 <MTughan> So it's not GPL'd then.
14:19 <PovAddict> GPL didn't exist when povray started :)
14:19 <MTughan> Ah.
14:23 <MTughan> Hehe... I think the icon for Windows shares is a CRT monitor showing a BSOD... :)
14:23 <PovAddict> that was criticised
14:24 <PovAddict> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_leopard#Criticisms last bullet
14:26 <PovAddict> wow
14:26 <MTughan> Dunno if I can get a better view...
14:26 <PovAddict> that's enough
14:30 <MTughan> Yeah, as it says in there... That's actually from a Linux based printer server.
14:34 <MTughan> Oh yeah, it is.
14:34 <MTughan> Hold on...
14:35 <MTughan> There.
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14:51 <MTughan> Hopefully a wired connection will be better...
14:56 <PovAddict> I bet M$ would sue their ass off
14:56 <PovAddict> ooo idea
14:56 <PovAddict> wouldn't it be cool if coverflow was actually 3D?
14:56 <PovAddict> the icon on the right is a flat image of a screen, rotated
14:56 <PovAddict> it would be great if it was the screen seen from an angle
14:58 <PovAddict> bloody thing still rendering, and doesn't even look cool
14:59 <PovAddict> oh god it's reaching the pph scale
15:00 <Tank_Master> fun stuff
15:00 <PovAddict> g2g
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15:13 <hawmps> SCO Delisted from nasdaq 12/27/2007
15:14 <efc> Cry me a river
15:14 <hawmps> indeed...
15:23 <FreeLarry_> 3 project links added - progress being made
15:24 <FreeLarry_> looks like i will have to leave real early today - snowing
15:24 <FreeLarry_> would like to get commute done before it starts sticking
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15:32 <MTughan> Well... That was interesting.
15:32 <MTughan> Kernel panicked quite a few times there. On my Fedora machine now.
15:34 <MTughan> Although using a wired connection did seen to help.
15:36 <MTughan> Oh, and I'm not quite sure if it's something in the software, or a hardware issue causing the panics...
15:40 <MTughan> Is anyone here?
15:44 <efc> moo
15:45 <Tank_Master> no
15:46 <MTughan> lol
15:47 <MTughan> Who knows? If it is a hardware issue, my Macbook's still under warranty... If they can't fix it, I might get a C2D Macbook...
15:49 <Tank_Master> or a real laptop and put libux on it?
15:49 <Tank_Master> linux*
15:49 <MTughan> Somehow I doubt it, but I can wish...
15:49 <MTughan> I already have Linux. Here.
16:02 <efc> Its stretch-out time
16:05 <efc> &weather 30625
16:05 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 52°F / 11°C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 30.05in / 1018hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly cloudy with a slight chance of drizzle late in the morning. Patchy fog. Highs in the lower 50s. Light and variable winds.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 40s. Light and variable winds.; Friday - Mostly cloudy with a chance of (1 more message)
16:06 <efc> I wonder if I could create my own weather station.. I don't think thats very accurate
16:06 <efc> &weather 30650
16:06 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 52°F / 11°C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 30.05in / 1018hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly cloudy with a slight chance of drizzle late in the morning. Patchy fog. Highs in the lower 50s. Light and variable winds.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 40s. Light and variable winds.; Friday - Mostly cloudy with a chance of (1 more message)
16:06 <efc> Yep, just a copy of the next one over
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16:09 <Tank_Master> wb
16:09 <E-30> hey xcamel
16:09 <xcamel> hi
16:09 <efc> moo
16:09 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007
16:09 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 38.3°F / 3.5°C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 29.84in / 1010.4hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Today - Rain...mixed with or as snow at times. Snow accumulation of up to 4 inches above 500 feet...with a trace to less than 1 inch below 500 feet. Highs around 35. Southeast wind 5 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Rain early...then showers. Snow level (1 more message)
16:09 <Tank_Master> &more
16:09 <Romulus> Tank_Master: 500 feet...jumping to 1500 feet early. Lows around 35. Southwest wind 10 to 15 mph.; Friday - Showers...decreasing in the afternoon. Highs 40 to 45. Southwest wind 5 to 15 mph.; Snow Advisory for Washington County in effect until 7:00 PM PST on December 27, 2007;
16:09 <E-30> so how is the little faem doing now
16:09 * efc flexes for the hidden camera the government installed
16:10 <E-30> lol'
16:12 <E-30> &weather 74447
16:12 <Romulus> E-30: Temperature: 39.0°F / 3.9°C | Humidity: 97% | Pressure: 29.14in / 986.7hPa | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 4.5mph / 7.2km/h ; Rest of Today - Cloudy. Highs in the lower 40s. Light winds becoming east around 10 mph in the afternoon.; Tonight - Chance of light rain in the evening...then light rain and light snow likely after midnight. Snow accumulation up to 1 inch. Lows in the lower (1 more message)
16:13 <xcamel> good enough - now snowing a little
16:13 <E-30> yea
16:13 <xcamel> got a camera to fix also - the ccd died
16:14 <E-30> wow
16:14 <xcamel> or the shutter is frozen shut..
16:14 <MTughan> How about a Mac that won't even load the equiv of the BIOS config?
16:14 <xcamel> yeah... hate it when that happens...
16:14 <E-30> have fun there
16:14 <MTughan> The boot HD is fine, but it won't load.
16:15 <E-30> better then have a quad bios go to shit and hath to unplug everything and take everything off the moutherboard
16:15 <wdsmia> asks E-30 to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.
16:15 <E-30> lol
16:16 <E-30> then put it back togther agan
16:16 <MTughan> Oh, how about this for Samba shares? http://michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org/WinShareBig.png
16:16 <efc> we had a sun x86 server come through work.. had a totally bizarre bios, really hard to install an OS under it
16:16 <MTughan> Got that out before it went down.
16:17 <MTughan> That's the biggest I could get it too...
16:17 <E-30> wow
16:17 <MTughan> So the new icon format almost backfired on them, that I can get that kind of resolution...
16:17 <MTughan> New format is 512x512.
16:18 <E-30> what the f
16:18 <E-30> thats huge
16:18 <MTughan> Makes for nice icons though... It's for the new CoverFlow interface in Finder.
16:18 <E-30> ok
16:19 <MTughan> Although even Tiger had big icons compared to Windows... It was 128x128.
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16:19 <MTughan> Just showing the Windows shares icon... http://michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org/WinShareBig.png
16:19 <E-30> vista has now 128x128
16:20 <MTughan> Before my computer went down... >_>
16:20 <MTughan> Hey, mweltin was here too.
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16:20 <MTughan> 'lo BB
16:20 <E-30> ok
16:20 <BadBarbarian> 'lo MT
16:21 <MTughan> So Vista has 128x128 icons? Seemed to take a long time for them to do it, doesn't it?
16:21 <PovAdct_v2> do the new shadows on Leopard give a better sense of depth?
16:21 <MTughan> New shadows? I didn't see any diff from the Tiger ones... Guess that means yes.
16:21 <PovAdct_v2> window shadows that is
16:22 <PovAdct_v2> oh they definitely changed them
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16:23 <E-30> wow
16:23 <MTughan> That was a short time here...
16:23 <efc> &movieplot
16:23 <MTughan> lol
16:25 <MTughan> Oh, and I still like the desktop cube better than Spaces...
16:25 <MTughan> Apple and Microsoft are going to be catching up to Linux for a long time in desktop effects...
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16:26 <Tank_Master> well, apple has an edgs on that is they truly are using linux
16:27 <MTughan> Show me some proof! Right now, all I have is your word that they even switched to Linux...
16:27 <Tank_Master> if I remember correctly, only plce Ive seen it is in the BOINC dev e-mails
16:27 <MTughan> Hardly conclusive...
16:28 <E-30> lol
16:28 <Tank_Master> well, they ARE writing code for it, so if theres a change in OS, they would probably know about it
16:31 <E-30> cool
16:38 <MTughan> WTF? Apparently TextEdit in Leopard can read Office '07 XML files...
16:38 <MTughan> And ODT files? Wow...
16:38 <Tank_Master> sweet
16:38 <MTughan> Notice that they're not really touting those features though...
16:39 <MTughan> They still want people to use iWork, not TextEdit, Office, or OOo.
16:42 <Tank_Master> you do know who the largest software maker for the MAC other than apple is, right?
16:43 <MTughan> Samsung?
16:43 <MTughan> Or Intel?
16:43 <Tank_Master> MS
16:43 <MTughan> Oh, software maker... I was thinking hardware there.
16:43 <Tank_Master> lol
16:43 <Tank_Master> thought so
16:44 <MTughan> Because I know Samsung manufactures a lot of the RAM for Macs and flash chips for iPods.
16:44 <Romulus> Title: Review: Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon takes on Mac OS X Leopard for the OS of the Year | Linux Magazine (at www.linux-mag.com)
16:46 <MTughan> lol, guy installed Leopard on his Eee PC... http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/11/16/man_installs_osx_on_eee_pc/
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17:02 * CoderForANewYear peeks into the room
17:03 <CoderForANewYear> boo
17:05 <efc> moo
17:05 <CoderForANewYear> too yoo too
17:05 <efc> ran 1.5 miles, no fatalities
17:06 <MTughan> lol
17:06 <efc> with some sprints
17:06 <efc> That'll get me the womens, you'll see
17:08 <CoderForANewYear> nah, it's your command of the English language that will make them swoon
17:09 <efc> You sayenses yous can learn me sum more English? Well howwwwdeeee!
17:09 <MTughan> lol
17:09 <MTughan> Maybe do it with a Canadian accent, eh?
17:09 <efc> Eh?
17:09 <MTughan> Hoser...
17:09 <xcamel> ok.. camera replaced... now to look closer into the dead ccd cam...
17:10 <xcamel> double hoser.. from the great white north...
17:10 <efc> I say, some beaver tail would be jiffey, eh?
17:11 <MTughan> "jiffy" sounds more British than Canadian.
17:12 <efc> I know, I've got a limited Canadian vocabulary, not much more than Beaver Tail and Eh
17:13 <CoderForANewYear> dang - AARP has noticed that I haven't surrendered, er registered, yet
17:13 <efc> I went to Montreal with my EQ guild once.. one of our guys was hitting on the girl Mounties
17:13 <MTughan> Um... Okay...
17:14 <efc> He didn't get anywhere, but said she was friendly
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17:16 <efc> Approaching a female (or any other) officer in the US will probably get you tasered
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17:16 <CoderForANewYear> "Don't tase me, sis"?
17:17 <efc> Haha
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17:19 <MTughan> 'lo yoyo
17:21 <yoyo[RKN]> hi
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17:44 <MTughan> Rather dead in here, isn't it?
17:46 <CoderForANewYear> &quiet
17:46 <Romulus> Shhhhh... Day Sleepers
17:49 <yoyo[RKN]> 11:50 pm
18:00 <MTughan> Off to dinner...
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18:12 <xcamel> had dinner... it was delish...
18:12 <CoderForANewYear> deli?
18:14 <CoderForANewYear> off 4 2 nite
18:15 <CoderForANewYear> cya folks back here soon
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18:37 <yoyo[RKN]> good night
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18:47 <BadBarbarian> evening all
18:47 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86046
18:48 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 23°F / -5.0°C | Humidity: 31% | Pressure: in / hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9.7km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows 4 to 10. North winds around 15 mph with gusts to around 30 mph early in the evening becoming light.; Friday - Mostly cloudy in the morning then becoming partly cloudy. A 10 percent chance of snow showers. Highs 30 to 36. Light (1 more message)
18:48 <BadBarbarian> &more
18:48 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: winds becoming southwest around 15 mph late in the afternoon.; Friday Night - Mostly cloudy in the evening then becoming partly cloudy. A 20 percent chance of snow showers. Lows 7 to 15. Light winds.;
18:48 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86023
18:48 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 23°F / -5.0°C | Humidity: 32% | Pressure: in / hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 3mph / 4.8km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows around 2 above on the North Rim to around 21 along the Colorado River. North winds around 15 mph early in the evening becoming light.; Friday - Mostly cloudy in the morning then becoming partly cloudy. A 10 percent chance of snow (1 more message)
18:49 <BadBarbarian> &more
18:49 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: showers. Highs around 30 on the North Rim to around 46 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Friday Night - Mostly cloudy with a 10 percent chance of snow showers. Snow level 3500 feet increasing to 4500 feet after midnight. Lows around 8 above on the North Rim to around 20 along the Colorado River. Light winds.;
18:50 <MTughan> 'lo BB
18:51 <wdsmia> &weather 50265
18:51 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 23°F / -5°C | Humidity: 85% | Pressure: 30.19in / 1022hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy. Snow after midnight. Snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches. Low in the lower 20s. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 90 percent.; Friday - Snow in the morning...then a chance of snow and patchy freezing drizzle in the afternoon. Snow (1 more message)
18:52 <wdsmia> &more
18:52 <Romulus> wdsmia: accumulation of 2 to 3 inches. Total snow accumulation 3 to 5 inches. High in the upper 20s. North wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Friday Night - Mostly cloudy. Low around 15. West wind 5 to 15 mph.; Snow Advisory for Warren County in effect until 3:00 PM CST on December 28, 2007;
18:53 <BadBarbarian> "lo MT
18:53 <BadBarbarian> same temp same forcast lol
18:56 <wdsmia> at 35% Humidity, snow evaporates at 85% it stays till spring
18:59 <BadBarbarian> wdsmia where are you located
19:00 <wdsmia> wdsmia= West Des Moines Iowa
19:04 <wdsmia> user name and location in one :)
19:11 <BadBarbarian> lol northern arizona here
19:15 <wdsmia> It normaly keeps people from asking silly questions like where are you located :P
19:16 <MTughan> wdsmia isn't totally clear though...
19:17 <MTughan> Wdsm_Ia might work better...
19:17 <wdsmia> sorry after w@#% vent lol
19:19 <wdsmia> used to be you could google it and get the location now days all you get is me lol
19:19 <xcamel> 'lo Doug
19:19 <wdsmia> *lo Jay
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19:19 <xcamel> everybody gets the same weather...
19:19 <xcamel> &weather 12074
19:20 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 30.4°F / -0.9°C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014.1hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a chance of snow showers this evening...then partly cloudy after midnight. Lows in the upper 20s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 40 percent.; Friday - Partly sunny. Not as cool with highs in the lower 40s. (1 more message)
19:20 <xcamel> &more
19:20 <Romulus> xcamel: West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Friday Night - Rain and sleet likely in the evening...then rain and light sleet after midnight. Ice accumulation around one quarter of an inch. Lows in the lower 30s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation 80 percent.;
19:20 <xcamel> 2-4" today
19:23 <Tank_Master> I havent gottnen any
19:23 <MTughan> bbl
19:24 <Tank_Master> hf
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19:42 <wdsmia> &weather 50319
19:42 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 23°F / -5°C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy. Snow likely after midnight. Snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches. Low in the lower 20s. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 70 percent.; Friday - Cloudy. Snow in the morning...then a chance of snow and patchy freezing drizzle in the (1 more message)
19:42 <wdsmia> &more
19:42 <Romulus> wdsmia: afternoon. Snow accumulation around 2 inches. Total snow accumulation 3 to 4 inches. High in the mid 20s. North wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 90 percent.; Friday Night - Mostly cloudy. Colder. Low 10 to 15. West wind 5 to 15 mph.; Snow Advisory for Polk County in effect until 3:00 PM CST on December 28, 2007;
19:44 <Tank_Master> I wonder if I can sue someone for not deliving the snow they promased would be delivered
19:45 <xcamel> sure.. then someone flings a fist sized ice ball at you...
19:45 <Tank_Master> lol
19:46 <wdsmia> sure isn’t this the land of the law suit and the home of the lawyer
19:49 <wdsmia> or is it the other way around
19:49 <efc> Equity favors the Diligent
19:50 <efc> Sue Away
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20:04 <xcamel> Sue away... is that like "Feeling Merry"
20:05 <xcamel> er Mary even?
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20:11 <efc> Feel Mary, then get sued
20:27 <xcamel> most likely senario...
20:29 <MTughan> lol
20:29 <MTughan> And that's "scenario".
20:30 <xcamel> where did mt damned spull chucker go...
20:31 <MTughan> lol
20:31 <MTughan> Maybe you chucked your spull chucker out the window. xD
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20:32 <xcamel> it were un-clucked
20:33 <MTughan> Gah... Adobe changed their site.
20:34 <efc> &cyborg BRAINS
20:34 <Romulus> efc: B.R.A.I.N.S.: Biomechanical Robotic Android Intended for Nocturnal Sabotage
20:34 <MTughan> Doesn't behave well on FF on Linux.
20:35 <MTughan> And they don't make Shockwave for Linux. >_>
20:44 <efc> &convert 1400 VA to watts
20:44 <Romulus> efc: Error: The command "convert" is available in the Currency and Math plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "convert".
20:44 <xcamel> flash stopped working in opera, but still works in firefox
20:44 <efc> &math convert 1400 VA to watts
20:44 <Romulus> efc: Error: VA is not a valid unit.
20:45 <xcamel> &math convert 1.4 Kva to watts
20:45 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: Kva is not a valid unit.
20:45 <xcamel> &math convert 1.4 KVa to watts
20:45 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: KVa is not a valid unit.
20:45 <xcamel> nope, not there
20:45 <PovAddict> &units
20:45 <Romulus> PovAddict: valid types: mass, length, time, scheduling, temperature, temp. diff., current, charge, potential, resistance, conductance, capacitance, magn. flux, inductance, flux density, molecular qty, size of a mol, lum. intens., luminous flux, illuminance, luminance, angle, solid angle, data, data transfer, quantity, interest rate, concentration, force, area, volume, velocity, rot. velocity, fluid flow, gas (1 more message)
20:46 <PovAddict> o_o
20:46 <efc> &units power
20:46 <Romulus> efc: power units: watt, W, kilowatt, kW, megawatt, MW, gigawatt, GW, milliwatt, horsepower, hp, metric horsepower
20:46 <xcamel> &more &math convert 1400 VA to watts
20:46 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: I haven't seen &math.
20:46 <PovAddict> lol
20:46 <xcamel> um..
20:46 <PovAddict> "&more &math"
20:47 <efc> &math units data
20:47 <Romulus> efc: data units: bit, kilobit, byte, B, kilobyte, kB, megabyte, MB, gigabyte, GB, terabyte, TB, petabyte, PB, kibibyte, KiB, mebibyte, MiB, gibibyte, GiB, tebibyte, TiB, pebibyte, PiB
20:47 <efc> no libraries of congress
20:47 <xcamel> they forgot 'dogbyte'
20:47 <PovAddict> hehe
20:47 <efc> Thus I cannot convert data transfer power efficiency to Libraries of Congress / VA
20:59 <xcamel> &math units concentration
20:59 <Romulus> xcamel: concentration units: proof, ppm, parts per million, ppb, parts per billion, ppt, parts per trillion, karat, carat gold
20:59 <xcamel> ah..
21:00 <MTughan> xcamel: What's a VA?
21:09 <xcamel> volt amps
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21:50 <MTughan> Hmm, just got my Mac too boot...
21:50 <dererk> PovAddict, hey
22:01 <xcamel> laterz...
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22:12 <Tank_Master> http://www.teamir8.com/pictures/funny_teachernote.gif
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22:17 <atoponce> what is the 'avg. work done' telling me?
22:17 <PovAddict> I'm not sure
22:17 <atoponce> is that per hour? per day?
22:17 <PovAddict> I think it's per day
22:17 <PovAddict> averaged over last week, sort of
22:17 <atoponce> hmmm. it's way low if it's per day then, i think
22:18 <PovAddict> how much?
22:18 <atoponce> about 1/2
22:18 <PovAddict> 0.5?
22:18 <atoponce> should be 88, it's 46.46
22:18 <atoponce> if it's per day
22:18 <PovAddict> oh
22:18 <PovAddict> how long have you been running it?
22:19 <atoponce> 6 days
22:19 <PovAddict> yeah wait some more for it to "stabilize"
22:19 <PovAddict> are you 'atoponce' on the project?
22:19 <atoponce> yes
22:19 <atoponce> original, eh? :)
22:20 <PovAddict> boincstats.com has only three days of you
22:20 <atoponce> really? i started on the 21st. it's the 27th, right?
22:21 <atoponce> well that sux. i want the rest of my credit
22:21 <atoponce> then again... i think the comp was down from the 21st through the 25th
22:21 <PovAddict> ahaa! :P
22:22 <atoponce> ok. fine. so, 580 work units with 51.09 avg
22:22 <atoponce> still *way* off
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