IRC logs of #boinc for Friday, 2007-12-28

00:29 <MTughan_> &cad

00:29 <Romulus>

00:30 <MTughan_> &xkcd

00:30 <Romulus>

00:38 <MTughan_> Gah, need to restart... Terminal's frozen, and I can't close it. And I need to clear the DNS cache because of our Internet problems... >_>

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00:38 <Tank_Master> gl

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00:43 <MTughan_> Oh, I'm so glad I restarted for that one!

00:44 <MTughan_> Tank_Master: Did you see the CAD comic?

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01:04 <MTughan> Gah... I'm having to piggyback on another wireless connection to get a stable connection. It's slow, comparable to dialup, but at least it works. Infinitely better than what I was getting...

01:05 <MTughan> About 2 hours to download 6MB...

01:06 <MTughan> But go figure, my Internet drops again for a sec...

01:07 <MTughan> I'm wondering if IRC on all the time is consuming our Internet time or some bullshit like that...

01:07 <wdsmia> asks MTughan to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

01:07 <MTughan> I'm gonna sign off for the night when I go to bed.

01:07 <MTughan> Maybe I can get a "stable" connection tomorrow...

01:11 <MTughan> There... I was down for about a minute and a half there...

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01:29 <MTughan_> Stupid thing...

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01:36 <Tank_Master> lol

01:54 * Tank_Master wonders is anyone is up at this time of the day

01:54 <MTughan> Yep.

01:54 <Tank_Master> heres something interesting to read about windows 7

01:54 <Tank_Master>

01:54 <Romulus> <> (at

01:54 <Tank_Master> you know the "core" install option for server 2008?

02:01 <MTughan> No.

02:01 <Tank_Master> ahh, ok

02:01 <MTughan> I haven't had any experience with Server '08 at all.

02:02 <Tank_Master> its basicly all you have is the command prompt window and task manager.  No menus or other GUI stuff.

02:02 <Tank_Master> kinda like the safemode command line

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02:27 <efc> Ugh, I hate these stupid red-tag flash ads

02:28 <Tank_Master> lol

02:28 <Tank_Master> thts why I use 64bit IE

02:28 <efc> two or three of them is good for 100% cpu

02:28 <efc> 6 or 7, kills browser

02:28 <MTughan> Damn, the Mac just kernel panicked again...

02:28 <Tank_Master> flash isnt avalible for 64bit browsers

02:29 <Tank_Master> ouch

02:29 <Tank_Master> have you thought of going back to 10.4?

02:30 <efc> I'm looking at car stuff and every $(*#($ site has this (*$@# ad with $*($# red snow flash ads

02:30 <Tank_Master> disable flash

02:30 <Tank_Master> and jif animations

02:30 <efc> yeah getting a blocker now

02:31 <efc> I used to not install it, but then sites started not working at all w/o flash installed

02:31 <Tank_Master> yeah

02:31 <Tank_Master> its getting annoying

02:31 <efc> You have to wonder what they did to get a couple of snowflakes to take 100% cpu

02:32 <Tank_Master> makes one wonder what web admins are thinkin when they let thak kind of thing go on on their site

02:32 <Tank_Master> its the shading

02:32 <Tank_Master> gotta have your adds in full 256bit color

02:32 <Tank_Master> even if the lcd screen can display 8bits

02:33 <efc> you could software render quake with like 1/100th that power

02:33 <Tank_Master> lol

02:33 <efc> 65k later, and I have a flashblocker.. they did it to themselves

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02:33 <Tank_Master> what you be extreamly habdy is for a option to rightclick on a flash image to select play to have it run

02:34 <Tank_Master> that way it would sit there at the first frame untill you told it to run

02:34 <efc> yep,

02:34 <Romulus> <$> (at

02:34 <Tank_Master> yo yoyo!

02:34 <MTughan> I have 10.4 on an external drive if need be, but I don't think it's a software issue...

02:35 <yoyo[RKN]> morning

02:35 <Tank_Master> MT: your not the only one with a MAC 10.5 chashing frequently on them

02:39 <Tank_Master> so yoyo, how much longer do you figure you will have the boost in produstion from the compition?

02:41 <yoyo[RKN]> the race of francophone officially finished on 25. But currently I'm on 75% of the maximum production

02:41 <Tank_Master> not to bad

02:41 <yoyo[RKN]> Seti.Germany now tries to get back #1

02:41 <Tank_Master> we heard it would be till the end of the year

02:41 <Tank_Master> hehe

02:41 <Tank_Master> good for them ;)

02:41 <yoyo[RKN]> and Francophone defends

02:42 <Tank_Master> you get lots of computation done?

02:42 <yoyo[RKN]> yeah

02:42 <yoyo[RKN]>

02:42 <Romulus> <> (at

02:43 <Tank_Master> did you break 1m on that highest peak?

02:43 <yoyo[RKN]> no

02:43 <Tank_Master> We have doubled our total in WCG during this WCG race

02:43 <yoyo[RKN]> cool

02:43 <Tank_Master> to bad, that would have been sweet

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02:44 <Tank_Master> we also moved form 97th in total up to 57th and are still prograssing at 3 passes a day

02:44 <MTughan_> I guess I missed some stuff...

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02:44 <yoyo[RKN]> I think WCG is one of the best boinc projects

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02:45 <Tank_Master> so hopefully another 20 sopts in the next wee or so thats left

02:45 <Tank_Master> yes you dod, MT

02:45 <Tank_Master> but not much

02:45 <MTughan> Okay, good.

02:45 * yoyo[RKN] needs a coffee

02:45 * MTughan needs to go to bed

02:45 <yoyo[RKN]> lol

02:45 <MTughan> 2:45AM...

02:45 <Tank_Master> just askin yoyo how his project is going form the compition between SETI.G and the french

02:45 <Tank_Master> I should go gto bed to

02:46 <MTughan> Don't want a repeat performance of last night, with 5AM...

02:46 <Tank_Master> yoyo's enterence is generally my queue to leave ;)

02:46 <Tank_Master> hehe

02:46 <Tank_Master> tc MT

02:46 <yoyo[RKN]> so I kick you to bed

02:46 <MTughan> Although I need to hook up my external drive to my Mac, allow it to do a few backups overnight...

02:46 <Tank_Master> lol

02:47 <Tank_Master> witht he way its acting, might be a good idea

02:47 <MTughan> If the stupid thing didn't kernel panic again...

02:47 <MTughan> On screensaver, no less.

02:47 <Tank_Master> LOL

02:55 <MTughan> All right, I'm signing off for the night...

02:55 <MTughan> And damn thing kernel panics, yet again...

02:55 <Tank_Master> lol

02:55 <Tank_Master> tc n gl ;)

02:56 <MTughan> Okay, I'm booting in 10.4 this time, and leaving it overnight. See if it kernel panics too.

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02:56 <efc> decadent flash-free browsing

02:56 <Tank_Master> sweet

02:57 <Tank_Master> no moving pixels is a good thing

02:57 <Tank_Master>

02:57 <Romulus> Title: DailyTech - Samsung Unveils 31-inch OLED Screen (at

02:58 <efc> been looking through LCDs too, decided to put it off

02:58 <efc> There are so many people down on TN screens

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02:58 <Tank_Master> tn?

02:59 <efc> thats the cheapest and most common of the panel types

02:59 <efc> The good Dells that are fairly popular are MVA

03:01 <efc> trying to find a car too, thats even harder

03:02 <Tank_Master> hehe

03:02 <Tank_Master> Im lookin forward to getting a 30" comp screen one of these days

03:02 <Tank_Master> but its hard to justify it when my 21" crt STILL works great

03:03 <efc> Good CRT is hard to beat

03:03 <Tank_Master> mine is an ezio f980

03:03 <Tank_Master> 2048x1536@85Hz

03:03 <Tank_Master> .20 dot pitch

03:03 <efc> Nice

03:04 <Tank_Master> it tiz

03:04 <efc> I have an iiyama 19", but not using it much anymore

03:04 <efc> 8 years old now

03:04 <Tank_Master> pics from my digital camera look just amasing, especually the sunsets with the bright light

03:04 <Tank_Master> mine's a 21"

03:04 <Tank_Master> just about 10 years

03:05 <Tank_Master> went all out on it knowing it would be the one thing to stay on  my desk for quite some time

03:05 <Tank_Master> the dual imputs are handy

03:05 <efc> Yeah mine doesn't have that but it has the 5 BNC input.. for some reason I wanted that hehe

03:06 <efc> probably to hook up to a Sun

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03:06 <Tank_Master> mine has the 5 BNC as well

03:06 <Tank_Master> and some other sonnection I dont remember (and have only once seen elsewhere)

03:07 <efc> probably the funky Sun thing

03:07 <efc> its like a mix of pins and RF type connectors

03:08 <efc> hmm , maybe a G35

03:08 <Tank_Master> yeah, it has lots of pins and 3 bigger red ble and green pins

03:09 <efc> yeah that sounds right

03:15 <Tank_Master> huh, wasnt quite right...

03:15 <Tank_Master> but yes, it would appear to be a SUN connection

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03:16 <Tank_Master>

03:16 <Romulus> Title: DB13W3 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

03:18 <efc> hmm guess they quit making the G35, G37 now

03:19 <Tank_Master> looks like it

03:20 <efc> lot f money anyway

03:21 <Tank_Master> :)

03:28 <efc> still sounds nice

03:34 <Tank_Master> still, something about having 2 31" oled screens...

03:34 <Tank_Master> ;)

03:35 <efc> Oh yeah, whats the deal with those, they emit their own light?

03:36 <Tank_Master> yeah

03:36 <Tank_Master> no backlight

03:36 <Tank_Master> more color spectrum to, producint more truer colors

03:37 <efc> Night, can't read any more

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03:37 <Tank_Master> lol

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04:53 <CoderForANewYear> &weather 45140

04:53 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: Temperature: 37.4F / 3.0C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 30.11in / 1019.5hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 1.3mph / 2.1km/h ; Today - Cloudy. A chance of rain showers this morning...then occasional rain showers this afternoon. Highs in the upper 40s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph with gusts up to 25 mph...becoming south with gusts up to 20 mph late. Chance of rain (1 more message)

04:53 <CoderForANewYear> &more

04:53 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: 100 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of rain showers in the evening. Lows in the lower 30s. West winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy in the morning...then becoming partly sunny. Highs in the lower 40s. West winds 5 to 10 mph.;

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05:08 <CoderForANewYear> brb   breakfast

05:49 <CoderForANewYear> been back for awhile

06:14 <CoderForANewYear> bbiab

06:14 <wdsmia> &weather 50265

06:14 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 24F / -4C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h ; Today - Snow in the morning...then a slight chance of snow in the afternoon. Total snow accumulation 3 to 4 inches. High in the upper 20s. North wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the northwest 10 to 15 mph in the afternoon. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; (1 more message)

06:14 <wdsmia> &more

06:14 <Romulus> wdsmia: Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Colder. Low around 15. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy. High in the lower 30s. South wind 10 to 15 mph.; Snow Advisory for Warren County in effect until 3:00 PM CST on December 28, 2007;

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08:14 <xcamel> 'lo

08:19 <CoderForANewYear> hello Jay

08:20 <CoderForANewYear> had enough of the office for one week?

08:21 <xcamel> yup..

08:22 <xcamel> still have to go in monday...

08:23 <CoderForANewYear> one more ticket punch for 2007

08:24 <CoderForANewYear> I usually pay my bills on Friday evening, but to my delight I find that there's nothing due

08:25 <CoderForANewYear> that doesn't happen very often

08:43 <xcamel> I sent out all the serious stuff yesterday

08:49 <CoderForANewYear> plink - trying to hack in under the mysql userid

08:55 <PriitM> Red Hat Enterprise Linux Test Page

08:55 <PriitM> :>

09:01 <xcamel> sporked..

09:04 <CoderForANewYear> rain is moving in

09:05 <CoderForANewYear> just entered the 50 mile radar

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09:08 <BadBarbarian> Morning All

09:09 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86046

09:09 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 5F / -15.0C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: in / hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 1mph / 1.6km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy with a 10 percent chance of snow showers. No snow accumulation expected. Highs 28 to 34. Light winds becoming southwest around 15 mph late in the afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a 30 percent chance of snow showers. (1 more message)

09:09 <BadBarbarian> &more

09:09 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Lows 9 to 17. Light winds.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of snow showers. Highs around 37. Light winds becoming west around 15 mph late in the afternoon.;

09:12 <xcamel> mornin BB

09:13 <BadBarbarian> hi Jay

09:13 <BadBarbarian> its a little chilly here

09:20 <PriitM> &weather tallinn

09:20 <Romulus> PriitM: Temperature: 41°F / 5°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 3:50 PM EET; Chance of Rain. High:42 F. / 6 C.; Rain. Low:39 F. / 4 C.; Chance of Rain. High:42 F. / 6 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:35 F. / 2 C.; Chance of Rain. High:42 F. / 6 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:35 F. / 2 C.;

09:20 <PriitM> :>

09:20 <PriitM> warm :>

09:30 <xcamel> 36F here - kinda nice out - need to go feed the animals...

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10:14 <xcamel> there... chores done

10:18 <CoderForANewYear> congrats - take the rest of the day off

10:21 <xcamel> fat chance... but thanks..

10:21 <xcamel> need to go get a new water heater for the birds water bucket...

10:22 <xcamel> and they cost too damn much.

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10:50 <CoderForANewYear> I'm sure those are pricey items

10:50 <CoderForANewYear> wb BadBarbarian

10:51 <CoderForANewYear> ah I see, xcamel - "chores" are done, but "errands" remain

10:52 <BadBarbarian> thanx reboot from sp2

10:52 <CoderForANewYear> sp3 is coming

10:52 <BadBarbarian> not for xp x64 for a while lol

10:53 <CoderForANewYear> ah right

10:53 <CoderForANewYear> just got done arguing with a vendor on the phone awhile ago - lost my Christmas cheer

10:54 <CoderForANewYear> they should know better than to mess with me

10:54 <CoderForANewYear> I go wild

10:55 <CoderForANewYear> already hacked fire command controls for GPS-guided ordinance

10:55 <BadBarbarian> lol

10:55 <BadBarbarian> and his cel has gps lol

10:55 <CoderForANewYear> lol  -  right up the tailpipe

10:56 <BadBarbarian> damn got to reboot agan post sp2 reboot

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10:57 <CoderForANewYear> good luck

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11:08 <CoderForANewYear> as I said, "good luck"

11:09 <CoderForANewYear> any more re-re-re-boots?

11:09 <CoderForANewYear> I didn't stutter

11:13 <BadBarbarian> yhanx

11:13 <BadBarbarian> thanx

11:13 <BadBarbarian> got one more coming later

11:15 <BadBarbarian> net framework 2 & 3 are updateing lol

11:26 <Tank_Master> fun stuff

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11:37 <xcamel> btw.. whomever pointed out 'opendisc' -- thanks..

11:38 <CoderForANewYear> I think that was quail

11:39 <CoderForANewYear> &seen quail

11:39 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: quail was last seen in #boinc 1 day, 4 hours, 52 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <quail> wb

11:39 <CoderForANewYear> he was sick, hope he's OK

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13:13 <quail> CoderForANewYear: here this one for you >>>

13:13 <Romulus> <> (at

13:13 <quail> &title

13:13 <Romulus> quail: Error: The command "title" is available in the Format and Web plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "title".

13:13 <PovAddict> &web title

13:13 <Romulus> <> (at

13:13 <Romulus> PovAddict: Weather in Loveland, OH (45140) - Generated by RRDWeather

13:14 <quail> thanks PovAddict

13:16 <CoderForANewYear> no data?

13:16 <CoderForANewYear> how are you feeling today, quail?

13:18 <CoderForANewYear> all nan errors

13:18 <quail> CoderForANewYear: it not long been running, yeah I not to bad slept most the day and night

13:18 <yoyo[RKN]> re

13:18 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

13:18 <Tank_Master> &more

13:18 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 43.7F / 6.5C | Humidity: 90% | Pressure: 29.90in / 1012.4hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Scattered showers decreasing. Highs 40 to 45. West wind 5 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Rain likely. Lows around 35. Southwest wind 5 to 15 mph.; Saturday - Rain at times. Highs around 45. South wind 10 to 20 mph.;

13:18 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.

13:18 <yoyo[RKN]> somebody with a Mac here?

13:19 <quail> CoderForANewYear: I have data on the daily graph

13:20 <CoderForANewYear> ah I see now - thought it was a dead pixel

13:20 <quail> CoderForANewYear: Me TV might be in fedora soon, cause a friend of mine works for red hat and when he goes back to work next week wednesday he going to pass on the info I sent him and he going to see what he can

13:21 <CoderForANewYear> is there an option to put it in units I can understand, like F, in Hg, and mph?

13:21 <CoderForANewYear> I don't "do" metric

13:22 <quail> CoderForANewYear: no sorry there only one conf file that runs all page I have going

13:22 <quail> here the weather graphs for me >>>

13:22 <Romulus> <> (at

13:22 <quail> &web title

13:22 <Romulus> <> (at

13:22 <Romulus> quail: Weather in Adelaide, Australia - Generated by RRDWeather

13:22 <BadBarbarian> lo quail

13:23 <BadBarbarian> hows the fires

13:23 <quail> hey BadBarbarian

13:23 <quail> yeah soso, the fire on KI is out

13:24 <CoderForANewYear> don't worry about me if it doesn't do English units

13:25 <quail> I think I am going to loss or my collected data cause of the upgrade to new version of rrdweather

13:25 <quail> CoderForANewYear: well it readable for me so I will leave it there for checking your weather ;-)

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13:27 <CoderForANewYear> suit yourself

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13:50 * xcamel hates suits

13:54 <quail> hehe

13:54 <quail> hiya Jay

13:55 * quail just wrote a bit of a blog entry about the Open Disc

13:55 <CoderForANewYear> better suited than unsuited

13:56 <quail> eep

13:56 * quail runs and hides

13:57 <xcamel> got opendisc now - looking at the install...

13:59 <quail> CoderForANewYear: this might interest you >>> Gobby is a free collaborative editor supporting multiple documents in one session and a multi-user chat. It runs on Microsoft Windows, Mac OS X, Linux and other Unix-like platforms. >>>

13:59 <Romulus> Title: obby - Trac (at

14:00 * quail thinks it great bit of software if you got say a few people coding on the one project

14:01 <quail> coffee time brb

14:02 <quail> while I am away I will leave you with some holding music

14:08 <quail> back

14:13 <PriitM> I'm asking it here, since here are many people with great knowledge. I'm thinking of buying some old box(P2-P3) to learn how to configure and maintain servers. Any suggestions which box should I buy to run? The server won't get much load at all - perhaps me and few friends testing it

14:14 <PriitM> most likely going to run some version of debian

14:14 * quail runs debian on all servers he sets up :-)

14:15 <quail> debian etch is rock solid

14:15 <PriitM> so which hardware would it need? random pentium 400mhz with 128-256 ram would do just fine?

14:16 <quail> and I'd recommend that you just download the debian etch net install disk and do a base install with that and reboot the server and go throught with apt-get and install the software you need

14:17 <quail> 400MHz with 256MB ram be fine for a testing box

14:17 <PriitM> OK

14:18 <PriitM> thanks

14:18 <quail> and one web site I can recommend for newbees to debian servers is this site >>>

14:18 <Romulus> Title: Debian Administration - Debian Administration Resources (at

14:19 <PriitM> bookmarked :>

14:19 <quail> but if you need help I am around here

14:19 <xcamel> stellarium is cool..

14:19 <xcamel> crashed it once already..

14:19 <xcamel> but it's nice..

14:19 <xcamel> bbl..

14:20 <quail> xcamel: great to hear you getting a kick out of OSS under windows

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14:55 <PovAddict> quail: oh yeah, I saw that editor

14:56 <PovAddict> it's a huge pain to get working on mac tho

14:57 <quail> oh I have only tried it under linux

14:58 <quail> I have it installed on my laptop and desktop for sharing a text file atm :-)

14:58 <quail> great for passing notes from one machine to another at home and about :-)

15:04 <CoderForANewYear> it's interesting how dramatically the amount of mail drops after Christmas

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15:22 <quail> hehe but the spammers keep hard at work tho :-(

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16:09 <xcamel> I did manage to crash stellarium

16:09 <xcamel> on the first try..

16:11 <quail> does anyone know about multicast broadcasting and why it a pita with firewalls

16:12 <quail> reason I ask is cause I have to turn my firewall off to get thinks like dvbstream and Me TV to broadcast over a network

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16:29 <CoderForANewYear> moo

16:29 <efc> Hey

16:29 <PovAddict> ditto

16:30 <CoderForANewYear> hey

16:30 <CoderForANewYear> I'm about to starting interfacing my business rules engine to my new workflow engine

16:31 <efc> That sounds excZzzzzzzz

16:31 <CoderForANewYear> ittizz

16:31 <CoderForANewYear> hopefully worth millionzz

16:33 <xcamel> looks like kind of a mess coming in...

16:33 <xcamel> right on the edge of being too warm for snow..

16:34 <efc> &weather 30625

16:34 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 72F / 22C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with scattered showers. Lows in the mid 50s. Near steady temperature in the mid 50s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy with scattered showers in the morning... then partly sunny with a slight (1 more message)

16:34 <xcamel> wow... nice out there..

16:34 <efc> Yep, warmed up with the storms coming through

16:34 <efc> Shorts and tshirt weather

16:35 <efc> I'm going out to do.. something

16:35 <CoderForANewYear> s-s-s-shorts w-w-w-weather h-h-h-here t-t-too

16:36 <CoderForANewYear> actually - pretty nice but rainy - 45F

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16:42 <xcamel> YEA!!

16:42 <MTughan> Um...

16:43 <MTughan> What do you say to that?

16:43 <xcamel> the 9.25 opera update makes flash work again

16:43 <MTughan> Ah.

16:43 <PovAddict> it was *definitely* not a "YEA!! MTughan is here!"

16:43 <xcamel> hehehe...

16:43 <MTughan> I know, it was spoken too fast.

16:44 <quail> nvm I found out UDP has problem broadcasting though firewalls were as TCP does not

16:44 <PovAddict> TCP can't broadcast/multicast

16:47 <quail> tcp might not beable to broadcast/multicast but it can stream

16:48 <PovAddict> in very-strict terms, it's udp the one that can't stream :)

16:49 <quail> and that is what I want for Me TV cause I run multiple networks and it all firewalled

16:50 <yoyo[RKN]> MTughan, you have a Mac?

16:51 <quail> damn David Hicks has offically been released as we speak

16:52 <MTughan> yoyo[RKN]: Yeah.

16:53 <yoyo[RKN]> can you check if this runs on mac

16:53 <Romulus> <> (at

16:53 <MTughan> No, I can't.

16:53 <PovAddict> he has a mac

16:53 <PovAddict> not a working one tho

16:53 <MTughan> Currently, I'm having hardware issues, sometimes causing boot issues, and others causing kernel panics.

16:54 <MTughan> I got lucky last night and kept a session running for about 10 minutes or so.

16:54 <MTughan> Haven't been able to boot today though.

17:00 <quail> MTughan: wtf have you done to your laptop?

17:02 <MTughan> I have no idea...

17:02 <quail> is it still under warranty?

17:03 <MTughan> Yeah. Got the extended, three years.

17:04 <MTughan> At the insistence of my dad, but it was a wise move. Otherwise it expires after a year, and it's been about a year and four months.

17:04 <xcamel> Mike - the one Chris got... has a bad macsafe brick

17:04 <MTughan> You mean power?

17:04 <xcamel> he's at the apple store getting it replaced, and getting the correct applcare plan (they sent the wrong one)

17:04 <xcamel> yup..

17:05 <MTughan> Ah, that's Magsafe. For magnetic.

17:05 <xcamel> whatever..

17:05 <MTughan> Rather corny name in my opinion, but I don't have any effect on those decisions.

17:05 <xcamel> cracksafe...

17:06 <xcamel> no outputy da juice

17:06 <MTughan> lol

17:07 <xcamel> don't stick that little magnetic connector on your tongue... it'll knock you on your a$$

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17:07 <MTughan> The only problem I've had with mine is the power light sometimes going out, but still charging, and the cable starting to sneak out from under the sheath. Other than that, it's worked fine for me.

17:07 <MTughan> Well, duh... There's a bit of power going through there...

17:08 <PovAddict> heh

17:08 <PovAddict> I remember when somebody took a little electric motor at school...

17:08 <CoderForANewYear> off with me - cya folks

17:08 <PovAddict> telling somebody to hold the cables, then spinning the axle fast... you could really feel it :D

17:08 <MTughan> Consider that there's enough power going through there to run the laptop off it without a battery, and then consider there's enough to power the laptop AND charge a battery at the same time...

17:09 <xcamel> I hooked up a motor starting capacitor, and taped insulated leads to my hand - ultimate "joy buzzer"

17:09 <xcamel> wanna shake?

17:10 <MTughan> Oh, with the processor under full load from BOINC too.

17:10 <MTughan> I had a bad enough experience with a tingly tongue after a 9V.

17:10 * MTughan backs away

17:10 <xcamel> BTW - running boinc -- that sucker really heats up...

17:11 <MTughan> Damn, OOo update is taking a little while to download...

17:11 <MTughan> I've had mine reach temps of 85+C.

17:11 <MTughan> &math convert 85 C to F

17:11 <Romulus> MTughan: 185.0

17:11 <MTughan> Hot enough for ya?

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17:18 <xcamel> this is the MBpro

17:19 <MTughan> Is there a major difference? Do the Pro have better cooling?

17:23 <xcamel> don't think so, but it gets really hot under boinc load

17:30 <efc> Ran 2 miles, not dead, no girls

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17:43 <xcamel> yummy wings..

17:45 <MTughan> Oh, gotta reboot. I did see something about kernel updates, so that would explain it. bbiab

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17:49 <xcamel> grrrrr...

17:49 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: ping

17:50 <MTughan> Gotta remember that XChat doesn't identify automatically...

17:51 <xcamel> there is a script that will do it for you...

17:52 <xcamel> konversation is a better client though..

17:52 <MTughan> Gah... Software Updater's not running...

17:52 <MTughan> pup shows up in the process list for a second and then exits...

17:53 <MTughan> And I'm not sure why I stayed with it, but I'm in GNOME.

17:54 <xcamel> REPENT!! REPENT!!

17:54 <MTughan> lol

17:55 <xcamel> found a weird video format on that crashes flashplayer

17:55 <MTughan> At least I have FF though...

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17:58 <MTughan> Of course, the GUI doesn't show this... Python exception.

17:58 <MTughan> Looks like Python might've been updated and it broke pup...

17:58 <MTughan> pirut too.

17:59 <MTughan> "ImportError: No module named iniparse"

17:59 <PovAddict> &google calc 2 minutes 10 seconds * 200

17:59 <Romulus> PovAddict: (2 minutes 10 seconds) * 200 = 7.22222222 hours

17:59 <xcamel>  << beautiful long shot...

17:59 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2007 December 28 - A Beautiful Boomerang Nebula (at

18:00 <MTughan> Nice...

18:01 <PovAddict> son of a...

18:01 <PovAddict>

18:01 <Romulus> <> (at

18:01 <PovAddict> that looks quite good

18:01 <MTughan> Any sound?

18:01 <PovAddict> no

18:01 <MTughan> Good... Can't get the sound to work here.

18:02 <MTughan> Gah... iniparse looks like a standard module...

18:04 <MTughan> And Totem can't play the file... Okay, time for VLC.

18:05 <PriitM> I think I should be worried

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18:06 <PriitM> took some medicine and forgot about it and glass of 20 minutes later

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18:09 <xcamel> thanks, pov - that mpg file fraked up something...

18:09 <MTughan> lol

18:09 <PovAddict> meh, don't blame

18:09 <PovAddict> me

18:10 <PovAddict> it should be standard mpeg1

18:10 <xcamel> it popped a black box up over opera that I couldn't get rid of..

18:11 <xcamel> made all better now..

18:16 <xcamel> new version of GE/linux - maybe this one will work...

18:17 <wdsmia> re-hi

18:18 <MTughan> 'lo Doug

18:20 <MTughan> PovAddict: That movie, what're the balls in it?

18:20 <PovAddict> tiny particles to better visualize the water movement, I guess

18:23 <MTughan> Okay, that is cool...

18:24 <xcamel> exit

18:24 <xcamel> oops..

18:25 <xcamel> HotDamn... it works!

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18:28 <MTughan> Ugh. iniparse has no instructions on how to build it. There is a, but there's also a Makefile.

18:29 <MTughan> There's a README file, which just describes what iniparse is. No INSTALL file.

18:30 <MTughan> Okay, it was the I wanted. pup working.

18:31 <xcamel> hmmm... thought I had an mpeg plugin...

18:32 <MTughan> Get VLC.

18:32 <xcamel> PoV - where is a good one?

18:32 <xcamel> oh yeah.. that..

18:32 <PovAddict> I don't know any video player without mpeg1/2 support

18:32 <MTughan> Totem.

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18:32 <MTughan> Kaffeine should be able to play it, but I can't check that.

18:33 <PovAddict> weird phone call

18:33 <PovAddict> sounded like some kid (< 6 year old) was playing with the phone

18:33 <MTughan> lol

18:35 <xcamel> xine error - no plugin

18:36 <xcamel> checking kyum

18:37 <xcamel> Pov -- could have been any US politician...

18:37 <PovAddict> :/

18:37 <MTughan> lol

18:37 <PovAddict> I think I'm better not knowing what you meant by that

18:38 <MTughan> Meaning: They're stupid, like a < 6 year old kid.

18:47 <xcamel> digging with a pick through the repos

19:02 <MTughan> Off to dinner...

19:04 <xcamel> enjoy..

19:07 <xcamel> ok... kaff is playing it (barely)

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19:20 <xcamel> cool anim, PoV

19:30 <xcamel> &weather 12074

19:30 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 30.6F / -0.8C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 30.26in / 1024.6hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Rain likely this evening...then rain after midnight. Lows in the mid 30s. Southeast winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain near 100 percent.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy. A chance of rain showers in the morning. Highs in the lower 40s. (1 more message)

19:30 <xcamel> &more

19:30 <Romulus> xcamel: South winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming west 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph in the afternoon. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Saturday Night - Mostly cloudy in the evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s. West winds 5 to 10 mph.;

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19:31 <xcamel> 'lo Glenn

19:32 <Rookie_69> hi, Jay.

19:32 <Tank_Master> yo

19:32 <xcamel> Have a decent holiday?

19:32 <Rookie_69> Work keeps getting in the way.

19:32 <xcamel> it does that..

19:33 <xcamel> but it does pay the bills...

19:33 <wdsmia> *lo Glenn

19:33 <Rookie_69> This last week seemed like two short weeks.

19:33 <xcamel> oh, Hi Doug..

19:33 <Rookie_69> Hi, Doug.

19:33 <xcamel> were you hiding in the weeds?

19:34 <wdsmia> hiding in the snow bank

19:34 <Tank_Master> weeds are just the plants you dont want

19:34 <wdsmia> snow is just water you dont want

19:35 <Rookie_69> I love winter... It's just all the cold and snow that I hate.

19:38 <Rookie_69> Oh... Hi, TM.

19:39 <MTughan> You know it's not a good thing when moving the lid on your laptop causes a kernel panic...

19:40 <Rookie_69> Popcorn laptop?

19:40 <wdsmia> ouch! lol

19:40 <MTughan> Macbook.

19:41 <Rookie_69> Kernel panic is only a good thing when you're popping corn.

19:42 <MTughan> lol

19:42 <MTughan> Think of it as a BSOD.

19:42 <Tank_Master> lol, thats why you dont leave the lid wide open or closed when the kernel is panicing

19:46 <Rookie_69> BSOD... Isn't that a Microsoft timekeeper?

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19:46 <Tank_Master> &cyborg BSOD

19:46 <Romulus> Tank_Master: B.S.O.D.: Biomechanical Synthetic Observation Device

19:46 <BadBarbarian> evening all

19:46 <Tank_Master> howdy BB

19:46 <wdsmia> *lo BB

19:46 <efc> Hey

19:46 <Rookie_69> Hi, BB.

19:47 <Rookie_69> Hi. moo guy.

19:47 <Rookie_69> ... moo goo guy pan...

19:47 * Tank_Master wonders if anyone knows what BSOD truly refers to

19:47 <Tank_Master> and no, its not Blue Screen of Death

19:48 <Rookie_69> Big Stack Of Disks?

19:48 <wdsmia> Rookie_69  is there anything that doesnt make you think of food?

19:49 <Tank_Master> Dlack screen of death

19:49 <Rookie_69> Maybe feces...

19:49 <Tank_Master> was out befor MS had windows

19:49 <Tank_Master> it was when you tryed to run a program and te screen would just go blank with nothing displayed

19:49 <Rookie_69> ... but then even that was food at one time...

19:51 <Rookie_69> ? extra ignored

19:51 <Tank_Master> oh hey, MT

19:52 <Tank_Master> on your 10.5, was it an upgrade from 10.4?

19:52 <MTughan> lol, bit of time to notice that TM.

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19:52 <MTughan> No, clean install.

19:52 <MTughan> Oh, and Tiger kernel panicked last night too.

19:52 <Tank_Master> huh

19:53 <MTughan> And I KNOW that that installation is stable.

19:53 <Tank_Master> cus lots of people that are getting panic on 10.5 is because of the App Enhancer

19:53 <Tank_Master> its not compatible with 10.5

19:53 <PovAddict> latest version of ape is compatible in a way...

19:54 <Tank_Master> yeah, 10.4 *should* work fine for you

19:54 <PovAddict> instead of crashing your system, it disables itself

19:54 <MTughan> I did install APE, but it's not running.

19:54 <Tank_Master> @ pov - well, thats a start ;)

19:54 <MTughan> And most of those are when people upgraded 10.4 w/ APE to 10.5.

19:55 <MTughan> They also got a WSOD sometimes...

19:55 <Tank_Master> true, though I have read that soemtimes it gets installed with 10.5 for no apparent reason

19:55 <MTughan> Logitech used it.

19:55 <Tank_Master> oh, rightm that was it ;)

19:55 <Tank_Master> I never used their software on windows

19:56 <Tank_Master> causes to much trouble and all the buttons seem to work just fine

19:56 <Tank_Master> without the crapware

19:58 <Rookie_69> My Logitech mouse acts crappy without the added software... Maybe I can live with it then?

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20:12 <Tank_Master> well, if it mees a stable opertaion...

20:20 <xcamel> daughters old laptop is going to be another boinc bot...

20:21 <xcamel> wiped out and installing fc7

20:21 <Rookie_69> Gone the way of her old Toyota...

20:22 <xcamel> her new macbook pro is an amazing machine..

20:22 <xcamel> and I was never an apple fan...

20:23 <MTughan> People always complain they're expensive... But they're just high-end compared to the crap that HP and Dell put out.

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20:25 <Rookie_69> WB, Cele...

20:26 <Rookie_69> Celelaptop, Buy a desktop.

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20:27 <E-30> hey

20:27 <Rookie_69> Hi.

20:27 <Celelaptop> Rookie_69: I have one, it's Celelibi_ :)

20:27 <E-30> how are you doing

20:27 <E-30> lol

20:28 <Rookie_69> I;m trying to play on words...

20:29 <Rookie_69> ... I'm trying to type, but that doesn't seem to be working either.

20:29 <Celelaptop> maybe I didn't understood, I'm french

20:29 <E-30> lol

20:29 <Rookie_69> Sell a laptop, buy a desktop...

20:29 <E-30> true there

20:31 <Rookie_69> I don't know enough French to translate... Vendre une laptop... achete une desktop. Doesn't look right.

20:32 <Rookie_69> Lol.

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20:33 <Rookie_69> Celelaptop sounds like sell a laptop.

20:34 <E-30> yea

20:34 <E-30> lol

20:36 <Rookie_69> My French is tainted by some Quebecois and some Franglais.

20:38 <Rookie_69> Une case du 24 et une six-pack

20:38 <Rookie_69> ... etc...

20:38 <xcamel> hehehe...

20:38 <xcamel> 'gimme da beer'

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20:39 <E-30> cool

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20:40 <Celelaptop> <Rookie_69> Une case du 24 et une six-pack <-- I don't think this has a mean :)

20:41 <Rookie_69> Franglais... Half French and half English...

20:41 <E-30> lol

20:41 <E-30> cool

20:41 <E-30> 24 6 packs

20:42 <E-30> 1 ldr of vocka

20:42 <Celelaptop> 24 pack de 6

20:42 <Celelaptop> :)

20:42 <Rookie_69> Acadien. locally.

20:42 <E-30> ok same

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21:18 * Rookie_69 going nite nite.

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21:24 <xcamel> adding projects...

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22:29 <MTughan_> Stupid connection...

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22:31 <MTughan> But I'm off again for TV... Or the boobtube. Bye.

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23:17 <CoderForANewYear> &weather 45140

23:18 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: Temperature: 41.9F / 5.5C | Humidity: 70% | Pressure: 29.99in / 1015.5hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 5.0mph / 8.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the lower 30s. West winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 30 mph.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy in the morning...then becoming partly sunny. Highs in the lower 40s. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday Night - Partly (1 more message)

23:18 <CoderForANewYear> &more

23:18 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s. Northwest winds around 5 mph...becoming east after midnight.;

23:18 <CoderForANewYear> back to bed

23:25 <efc> moo

23:31 <quail> moo efc

23:37 <efc> watching Futurama marathon

23:46 <quail> :-D

23:47 <quail> 'behold the internet' 'wow it full of ads'

23:51 <efc> Yeah I never really saw it before

23:51 <efc> Its great

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