00:09 <Soul_keeper> anyone else experienced 10x performance increases in FPU/math.h intensive tasks on athlon systems when comparing to faster intel systems ?
00:10 <efc> you might get that if you have a lot of shifts or rotates
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00:13 <MTughan> Hehe...
00:13 <MTughan> &cad
00:17 <Soul_keeper> efc, what do you mean by shifts/rotates ?
00:28 <efc> the shift and rotate instructions
00:28 <efc> << and >> in C
00:30 <Soul_keeper> ahhh
00:31 <Soul_keeper> well i'm using pretty much all the functions in math.h so i'm sure it's in there ...
00:53 <Soul_keeper> hey
00:53 <Soul_keeper> the athlon xp palomino core is stepping 2 right ?
00:53 <MTughan> Duuuude... I can combine Obj-C and C++...
00:55 <efc> holy #@#@*(#(@, so I click on the account agreements page, and its 86 pages long
00:56 <MTughan> Oh, I got my Mac to boot up to do this... Now where's that link yoyo posted...
01:04 <MTughan> Well, he'll be disappointed. It doesn't work.
01:07 <MTughan> Now it gets interesting... I have some WUs dues soon, but it'll be hard to finish them if my computer keeps kernel panicking...
01:07 <MTughan> It's working for now at least, as long as I don't bump it at all, shouldn't panic.
01:11 <MTughan> Oh wow... Already been up half an hour... Time sure flies.
01:13 <efc> yep
01:14 <efc> As usual I fill out the long boring application and hit submit and it doesn't work
01:14 <MTughan> lol
01:22 <MTughan> Whoa, WTF? My system says it doesn't have Bluetooth anymore, but I'm using a Bluetooth mouse as we speak...
01:29 <quail> MTughan: what are you running there?
01:30 <MTughan> On what?
01:30 <MTughan> Fedora 7 on PC, OS X Leopard on Mac. Mac is the one with Bluetooth.
01:30 <quail> the computer you been talking about
01:49 <MTughan> Okay, I'm off to bed... Nearly 2AM, and I'll probably read for a bit. Night all!
01:53 <quail> kylie minogue got an obe from the queen for her contribution to music
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04:13 <Bad_At_Home> &weather 86046
04:13 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Temperature: 16°F / -8.9°C | Humidity: 59% | Pressure: in / hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 2mph / 3.2km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A 20 percent chance of snow showers after midnight. No snow accumulation. Lows 9 to 17. Light winds.; Saturday - Not as cold. Mostly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of snow showers in the morning...partly cloudy in the afternoon. No (1 more message)
04:13 <Bad_At_Home> &more
04:13 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: snow accumulation. Highs around 37. Light winds.; Saturday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows 13 to 21. West winds around 15 mph.;
04:13 <Bad_At_Home> &weather 86023
04:13 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Temperature: 18°F / -8°C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 30.07in / 1018hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A 10 percent chance of snow showers after midnight. No snow accumulation. Lows around 11 on the North Rim to around 32 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Saturday - Not as cold. Mostly cloudy with a 10 percent chance of (1 more message)
04:14 <Bad_At_Home> &more
04:14 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: snow showers in the morning...partly cloudy in the afternoon. No snow accumulation. Highs around 31 on the North Rim to around 50 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Saturday Night - Mostly cloudy in the evening then becoming partly cloudy. Lows around 12 on the North Rim to around 33 along the Colorado River. Light winds.;
04:17 <Tank_Master> @weather 97007
04:17 <Tank_Master> @more
04:18 <Tank_Master> &weather
04:18 <Romulus> Tank_Master: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
04:18 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007
04:18 <Tank_Master> &more
04:18 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 42.9°F / 6.1°C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 29.90in / 1012.4hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Showers likely. Rain late. Lows around 40. South wind 5 to 15 mph...becoming southeast late.; Saturday - Rain. Highs in the mid 40s. Southeast wind 10 to 15 mph...becoming south 15 to 20 mph in the afternoon with gusts to 35 mph.; (1 more message)
04:18 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Saturday Night - Rain in the evening...then showers after midnight. Snow level 1000 feet after midnight. Little if any accumulation. Lows in the mid 30s. Southwest wind 15 to 25 mph with gusts to 35 mph.;
04:35 <CoderForANewYear> &weather 45140
04:36 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: Temperature: 39.3°F / 4.1°C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 30.05in / 1017.5hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy this morning...then becoming partly sunny. Highs in the lower 40s. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear in the evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s. Northwest winds around 5 mph... (1 more message)
04:36 <CoderForANewYear> &more
04:36 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: becoming east after midnight.; Sunday - Partly sunny. Highs in the lower 40s. East winds around 5 mph.;
04:38 <FreeLarry_> &weather 98366
04:39 <Romulus> FreeLarry_: Error: timed out
04:39 <Tank_Master> LOL
04:39 <Bad_At_Home> Morning larry & coder
04:39 <Bad_At_Home> hi tank
04:39 <Tank_Master> &weather 98366
04:39 <FreeLarry_> morn Tank_Master CoderForANewYearrommie doesn't likie me
04:39 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: timed out
04:39 <Tank_Master> &weather your, mom
04:39 <Bad_At_Home> &weather 98366
04:40 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: Could not find weather information. (This may be a bug. If you think it is, please file a bug report at <http://sourceforge.net/tr acker/?func=add&group_id=58965&atid=489447>.)
04:40 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Temperature: 28°F / -2°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.87in / 1011hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers. Lows in the 30s. Southwest wind around 10 mph.; Saturday - Cloudy with rain developing in the afternoon. Highs near 40. South wind to 10 mph in the morning becoming light.; Saturday Night - Rain in (1 more message)
04:40 <Bad_At_Home> & more
04:40 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: the evening...then mostly cloudy with a chance of showers after midnight. Breezy. Lows in the 30s. South wind to 10 mph increasing to southwest 15 to 25 mph after midnight.;
04:40 <Bad_At_Home> there yougo
04:41 <FreeLarry_> thank you Bad_At_Home
04:41 <Bad_At_Home> rommies mad at you larry lol
04:41 <Tank_Master> :P
04:41 <FreeLarry_> always it seems like - maybe f i stopped using pennies to feed and upgrade to nickles?
04:42 <FreeLarry_> thought i was hitting a few black ice spots on way home
04:42 <Bad_At_Home> hows that little system running
04:42 <Bad_At_Home> with windows 3.1 lol
04:43 <FreeLarry_> oh not so well currently - i placed drives into this machine - still have to test them out - noticed this bios only lets me use one or the other not both
04:44 <FreeLarry_> getting ready to try a cut down version of linux on the compaq instead of win 3.1
04:44 <Bad_At_Home> cool
04:44 <FreeLarry_> might make it a little easier to use
04:45 * FreeLarry_ shouldn't have thrown my old dos books away
04:45 <Tank_Master> hehe
04:45 <FreeLarry_> ohh wait i'm married - blame the wife instead
04:46 <Tank_Master> :
04:46 <Tank_Master> p
04:46 * FreeLarry_ wonders how long before e-30 discovers that little secret
04:46 * Tank_Master thinks it may be a bit yet
04:46 <FreeLarry_> lol
04:46 <FreeLarry_> still in the dog at it stage
04:47 <FreeLarry_> ate
04:50 <FreeLarry_> well this ol forgetful fuddy duddy heading of to bed - only weds in am so have great time all
04:50 <FreeLarry_> &nn all
04:50 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!
04:50 <Tank_Master> tc
04:52 <CoderForANewYear> morning folks
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04:54 <CoderForANewYear> morning FreeLarry_
04:54 <CoderForANewYear> morning TankMaster
04:54 <FreeLarry_> morn - trying to figure out where away is in xchat
04:54 <CoderForANewYear> morning Bad_At_Home
04:55 <CoderForANewYear> dunno - I use Miranduh in Winduhs
04:58 <FreeLarry_> doesn't appear to have that function
04:58 <FreeLarry_> anyway
04:58 <FreeLarry_> &nn all
04:58 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!
04:58 <Bad_At_Home> &nn all
04:58 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!
04:58 <Tank_Master> gn bb
05:08 <CoderForANewYear> brb breakfast
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05:23 <Tank_Master> im off to bed to
05:23 <Tank_Master> gn
05:25 <CoderForANewYear> cya Tank_Master
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05:33 <Bad_At_Home> wow i managed to oc this old p4 2.66 to 3.1 and its stable lol
05:37 <CoderForANewYear> cool - er, hot =)
05:38 <Bad_At_Home> lol
05:38 <Bad_At_Home> old 478 pin p4
05:38 <Bad_At_Home> with very good fan
05:41 <CoderForANewYear> winter is the overclocker's friend
05:41 <CoderForANewYear> bbiab
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06:42 <CoderForANewYear> off to the grocery store - bbl
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07:18 <yoyo[RKN]> moin
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07:28 <PriitM> oh cool - 1200mhz celeron m running on 92C idle
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08:01 <xcamel> 'mornin
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08:12 <PriitM> gosh, how people can ruin their computers
08:13 <PriitM> this laptop was last taken to me like 2 months ago and again it's full of viruses and adware
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08:32 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2007 December 29 - Saturn s Infrared Glow (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)
08:36 <wdsmia> mornin all
08:36 <PriitM> this laptop was last taken to me like 2 months ago and again it's full of viruses and adware
08:36 <PriitM> wrong history :<
08:37 <PriitM> the link is correct.
08:38 <wdsmia> &weather 50319
08:38 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 16°F / -9°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 30.03in / 1017hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Areas of fog in the morning. High in the upper 20s. South wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Low 15 to 20. South wind around 5 mph.; Sunday - Mostly cloudy. High in the lower 30s. South wind 5 to 15 mph.;
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08:52 <xcamel> hmmm... got chilly
08:52 <ChristianB> back :)
08:52 <xcamel> still 38F here
08:53 <xcamel> and the sun came out...
08:58 <xcamel> 'lo Chris
09:16 <CoderForANewYear> touch and go - back from the store and back out to another to get the things the first one didn't have
09:16 <CoderForANewYear> bbl
09:17 <xcamel> lol
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09:52 <xcamel> bbiab
09:52 <Bad_At_Home> morning jay
09:58 <xcamel> 'lo BB
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10:18 <CoderForANewYear> back again
10:18 <wdsmia> wb
10:19 <CoderForANewYear> second time / second store was the charm
10:19 <CoderForANewYear> hello Doug
10:21 <CoderForANewYear> &weather 45140
10:21 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: Temperature: 37.3°F / 2.9°C | Humidity: 78% | Pressure: 30.14in / 1020.5hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy this morning...then becoming partly sunny. Highs in the lower 40s. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear in the evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s. Northwest winds around 5 mph... (1 more message)
10:21 <CoderForANewYear> &more
10:21 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: becoming east after midnight.; Sunday - Partly sunny. Highs in the lower 40s. East winds around 5 mph.;
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10:47 <wraund> erm hi, i got the linux version and unpacked it, but it no longer has the run_manager file, how do i launch it
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10:53 <desti> ./boincmgr
10:53 <wraund> ok..
10:54 <wraund> dont have it in there :S
10:54 <desti> if you don't have a boncmgr you may have installed a boinc version without gui
10:55 <wraund> hmm
10:55 <wraund> kk
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11:13 <xcamel> wraund: download the ubuntu version - it has the graphics, and will run on most if not all distros..
11:13 <xcamel> bbl..
11:15 <wraund> wtf
11:15 <wraund> it wasnt like that before
11:15 <wraund> it had run_manager in it
11:17 <PovAddict> "before" (as in, years before) there wasn't even a manager
11:17 <PovAddict> so? :)
11:37 <PriitM> ahh yes, I got 500mhz celeron 128mb ram 8gb hdd box for testing
11:37 <PriitM> 20$
11:40 <PriitM> should run debian stable command line just fine i belive
12:21 <PovAddict> $20??
12:23 <PriitM> with transportation to my door
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12:54 <wraund> ok the previous linux BOINC version had run_manager, and the new one doesnt, whats goin on?
12:56 <xcamel> download the ubuntu version
12:57 <Romulus> Title: Index of /dl (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
12:57 <MTughan_> Well, my Mac didn't kernel panic last night, so not moving it AT ALL seems to allow it to work...
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12:58 <xcamel> this damned laptop still overheats and shuts down
12:58 <MTughan> My PC used to do that... My dad and I checked the thermal paste on the CPU. That fixed it.
12:59 <xcamel> taking it apart might be the issue..
12:59 <MTughan> yoyo's around...
12:59 <MTughan> yoyo[RKN]: Got my Mac working last night, and tried the program. Didn't work.
12:59 <yoyo[RKN]> what does the prog said?
13:00 <MTughan> Terminal said it could not run the binary program.
13:00 <yoyo[RKN]> ok, thx for the test
13:01 <MTughan> "cannot execute binary file"
13:02 <MTughan> file returns that it's a "header for PowerPC PEF executable".
13:03 <yoyo[RKN]> so it should run?
13:03 <MTughan> Dunno if this would make a difference... But I downloaded it from my Linux machine and then used a Windows file share to transfer it over.
13:03 <MTughan> Well, it's not running. Should there be an extension on it?
13:04 <yoyo[RKN]> i got it as it is
13:05 <yoyo[RKN]> here is now also the zip which I got http://www.rechenkraft.net/yoyo/download/download/mac6g/
13:07 <MTughan> And that works.
13:08 <yoyo[RKN]> hä
13:08 <yoyo[RKN]> ?
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13:08 <yoyo[RKN]> I only unziped it
13:08 <MTughan> I have no idea...
13:08 <yoyo[RKN]> did you unzip it?
13:09 <CoderForANewYear> anyone else experiencing slow web site load times?
13:09 <MTughan> Heh, I have no idea why my group is "staff" either...
13:09 <CoderForANewYear> Google seems fine
13:09 <MTughan> Yeah, I just unzipped it.
13:09 <CoderForANewYear> My connection speedtests fine
13:10 <yoyo[RKN]> can you send the unziped file to me, MTughan?
13:11 <MTughan> There was one thing different...
13:11 <BiteAbleKat> everyone is spending their gift cards and xmas cash on the interwebs
13:11 <MTughan> The version I got was set to 0777. Unzipped was 0644.
13:12 <CoderForANewYear> I guess that's the problem, BiteAbleKat =)
13:12 <MTughan> Changing the version I originally got to 0644 doesn't work though. Changes the icon though...
13:15 <yoyo[RKN]> does it work because of this __macos subdirectory in the zip ???
13:15 <MTughan> It's possible, but I doubt it.
13:17 <MTughan> Anyway, that's the tarred and bzipped version. Tar should keep the permissions alive.
13:17 <MTughan> You might have to chown though.
13:18 <MTughan> Actually, there's one more variable...
13:19 <MTughan> Naw, downloading it right on the Mac doesn't work. Associates it with QT.
13:20 <yoyo[RKN]> I extracted it here http://www.rechenkraft.net/yoyo/download/download/mac6g/1/ It has exact the same sice
13:20 <MTughan> So it's something with the zip that makes it work... Does the tar.bz2 work?
13:21 <yoyo[RKN]> I extracted the tar.bz2 here http://www.rechenkraft.net/yoyo/download/download/mac6g/1/
13:21 <Romulus> Title: Index of /yoyo/download/download/mac6g/1 (at www.rechenkraft.net)
13:21 <MTughan> Yeah, I see that. Do you not have a Mac?
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13:21 <MTughan> 1/
13:21 <yoyo[RKN]> no
13:22 <MTughan> Wrong keyboard...
13:22 <markuss> I can't get seti/boinc to work, anybody know what might cause these msgs?
13:22 <markuss> 12/29/2007 1:08:02 PM|SETI@home|Started download of setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx86.exe
13:22 <markuss> 12/29/2007 1:08:25 PM||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
13:22 <markuss> 12/29/2007 1:08:25 PM|SETI@home|Temporarily failed download of setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx86.exe: system connect
13:22 <markuss> 12/29/2007 1:08:25 PM|SETI@home|Backing off 1 hr 56 min 49 sec on download of setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx86.exe
13:22 <markuss> 12/29/2007 1:08:26 PM||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
13:22 <markuss> the seti site doesnt say anything is down, been getting those errors for 12 hours
13:22 <MTughan> Can you get to their site?
13:22 <markuss> yeah
13:22 <CoderForANewYear> looks like there's a router out in Level3.net that dropping packets
13:23 <markuss> hm
13:23 <yoyo[RKN]> MTughan : can you download this http://www.rechenkraft.net/yoyo/download/download/mac6g/1/ and check if it runs?
13:23 <MTughan> I was just about to...
13:23 <yoyo[RKN]> ;)
13:23 <MTughan> The tar or the executable?
13:23 <yoyo[RKN]> excutable
13:24 <xcamel> markuss: seti was down earlier..
13:24 <MTughan> Associates with QT again.
13:25 <PovAddic1> run it from console, ./thing
13:25 <PovAddic1> ...damn
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13:26 <MTughan> Permission denied.
13:26 <MTughan> Because the permissions are 0644.
13:26 <MTughan> Not executable.
13:26 <MTughan> With executable, says it cannot execute binary file.
13:26 <yoyo[RKN]> what is QT on mac?
13:26 <PovAddict> $ file S005...
13:27 <MTughan> QT = QuickTime.
13:27 <MTughan> PovAddict: Tried, returns "header for PowerPC PEF executable".
13:27 <MTughan> As does the working version.
13:27 <yoyo[RKN]> thougt quicktime is for movies
13:27 <MTughan> yoyo[RKN]: Movies, audio... media files. ;)
13:28 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: it is, that's why it's stupid that it gets associated with that file
13:28 <MTughan> Yep.
13:28 <MTughan> I can change it to open with another app, but I can't change it to open as an app.
13:29 <PovAddict> hmm
13:29 <yoyo[RKN]> and if you create the directory, which was also in the zip: __MACOSX ?
13:29 <PovAddict> maybe you have trouble with forks
13:30 <yoyo[RKN]> PovAddict : I checked it already with 3 other people. All have the can not execute binary file problem
13:31 <MTughan> Where are you getting the application from?
13:32 <MTughan> Hehe... yoyo[RKN], got three WUs from you. :D
13:33 <MTughan> Looks like one just finished...
13:33 <yoyo[RKN]> the application is from the evolution@home author
13:33 <MTughan> Do you know how he's making it?
13:34 <yoyo[RKN]> not really
13:34 <MTughan> Do you know if it's Xcode or GCC? Or something else?
13:35 <yoyo[RKN]> he wrote it is an old compiler and he sent me the mac and win version
13:35 <MTughan> GCC 3.3?
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13:36 <yoyo[RKN]> maybe he used gcc and crosscompiled it for win. Don't know if this is possible with gcc.
13:38 <MTughan> Heh... A WCG WU due on Tues with 1:40m left is high priority, but another WCG WU due just an hour and a half later with 7:30m left is not...
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13:45 <yoyo[RKN]> MTughan : is it running if you create the directory on the command line:
13:45 <yoyo[RKN]> mkdir __macosx
13:48 <MTughan> One sec...
13:48 <MTughan> No, still associated with QT.
13:52 * yoyo[RKN] does not understand that stupid mac
13:52 <MTughan> Is there anything in that directory?
13:52 <yoyo[RKN]> no
13:52 <MTughan> Do ls -al
13:53 <MTughan> PovAddict: Figured out last night that I can combine Obj-C and C++. Guess what it's called?
13:53 <PovAddict> Obj-C++?
13:53 <MTughan> Hehe...
13:53 <PovAddict> Obj+C? :P
13:54 <MTughan> No, it is Obj-C++.
13:54 * PovAddict points at DVD-R and DVD+R
13:54 <MTughan> Turns out that it's not nearly as hard as it might seem...
13:54 <MTughan> lol
13:55 <MTughan> Simple Obj-C++ program.
13:55 <MTughan> So what I will probably do it build an Obj-C frontend to the GUI_RPC class.
13:56 <MTughan> For anyone who's confused, I'm considering building my own version of the BOINC Manager with OS X widgets, rather than wxWidgets.
13:56 <PovAddict> *splode*
13:57 <PovAddict> I know nothing about obj-c
13:57 <MTughan> NSString is similar to the std::string class. id is basically the same as Java's Object.
13:57 <PovAddict> [NSString stringWithUTF8String:greeting_text] and those dashes at the beginning of lines are enough for a splode
13:58 <BadBarbarian> Morning POV &MT
13:58 <MTughan> That calls a static method of NSString called string WithUTF8String and passes the C string greeting_text.
13:58 <MTughan> The dashes mean that that method is an instance method, and not a class method.
13:58 <MTughan> 'lo BB
13:59 <MTughan> When dealing with Obj-C standard classes, discard the NS. Stands for NeXTSTEP. Where OS X is based.
14:00 <MTughan> That example as is doesn't quite work, because of the variables colliding in Hello(const char*).
14:00 <MTughan> If you change the name of the argument and what the string's being set to, it works fine.
14:02 <MTughan> Don't worry, I just relearned or learned a lot of Obj-C over the past few days... Got a book on it for Christmas.
14:02 <MTughan> &monologue
14:02 <Romulus> MTughan: Your current monologue is at least 8 lines long.
14:02 <MTughan> Come on guys, I can't keep this up forever...
14:02 <PovAddict> I'm trying to document the gui rpc protocol... using docbook
14:03 <MTughan> The actual protocol? Or the class?
14:03 <PovAddict> I'm kind using any semantic markup it provides, even when extremely verbose
14:03 <PovAddict> <person><personname><firstname>Rom</firstname><surname>Walton</surname></personname></person>
14:04 <MTughan> yoyo[RKN]: Did ls -al turn anything up?
14:04 <yoyo[RKN]> the directory is empty
14:05 <dererk> hey PovAddict
14:05 <MTughan> Okay...
14:05 <dererk> Hi people
14:05 <MTughan> 'lo dererk
14:08 <MTughan> PovAddict: Does gui_rpc_client.h have declarations for both gui_rpc_client.C and gui_rpc_client_ops.C?
14:08 <PovAddict> MTughan: look at this http://www.docbook.org/tdg5/en/html/co.html#examples
14:09 <PovAddict> nice way of marking sourcecode...
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14:49 <E-30> hey
14:50 <efc> moo E30
14:50 <E-30> moo back how are you doing
14:51 <efc> Ok, fairly nice outside
14:51 * CoderForANewYear drops in to wave to E-30
14:51 <CoderForANewYear> howdy Chris
14:51 <efc> &weather 30625
14:51 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 64°F / 18°C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 30.00in / 1016hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms in the morning...then a slight chance of showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 60s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Tonight - Chance of showers (1 more message)
14:52 <CoderForANewYear> &more efc
14:52 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: with a slight chance of thunderstorms in the evening...then showers likely with a slight chance of thunderstorms after midnight. Lows in the lower 50s. Light and variable winds. Chance of rain 70 percent.; Sunday - Occasional showers in the morning...then showers likely in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 50s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 90 percent.;
14:54 <E-30> hey cfl
14:55 <efc> hmm, now my credit card thinks they owe me $10k. 48 hours ago, I owed them $10k.
14:55 <MTughan> lol
14:55 <E-30> lol
14:56 <E-30> &weather 74447
14:56 <Romulus> E-30: Temperature: 43.9°F / 6.6°C | Humidity: 39% | Pressure: 29.23in / 989.7hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 5.4mph / 8.7km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly sunny. Highs in the mid 40s. Light winds.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 20s. Light winds.; Sunday - Sunny. Highs in the lower 50s. Light winds.;
14:56 <efc> actually I owe them about 60 bucks
14:56 <E-30> lol
14:58 <efc> I think I'll let them sort out this one.. tired of spending time on the phone with them
15:00 <E-30> lol
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15:46 <MTughan> PovAddict: Do you know how I can link the methods of gui_rpc_client and gui_rpc_client_ops?
15:47 <MTughan> I've got header files.
15:47 <PovAddict> compiling both and linking to both .o's
15:47 <PovAddict> I'm not sure about other dependencies
15:47 <MTughan> Yeah... "__Z12boinc_socketRi
15:47 <MTughan> One of many.
15:47 <PovAddict> crapz0r
15:48 <MTughan> Do I have to link against all three .a's generated by the Makefile?
15:48 <PovAddict> no, that would be too much
15:48 <PovAddict> if you do it, it will work; but you'll be linking to more than you need
15:48 <MTughan> I can strip out dead code.
15:48 <PovAddict> I'm sure I have a full makefile that built an app using that class... on the other computer... the one not working
15:50 <MTughan> I can't seem to link against .a's anyway. No place for them in Xcode project settings.
15:54 <MTughan> Nuts... What folders are compiled with --disable-server --disable-client?
15:54 <PovAddict> api, lib...
15:54 <PovAddict> others...
15:54 <PovAddict> you probably need only stuff under lib
15:54 <MTughan> I can try that.
15:55 <MTughan> 552 errors...
15:55 <MTughan> Mostly missing header files, so that's not too bad.
15:56 <MTughan> And with Windows files. After those are gone, 7 errors.
15:57 <MTughan> msg_queue.C, msgget not declared in this scope.
15:57 <xcamel> codergasms again...
15:58 <MTughan> lol
16:00 <MTughan> PovAddict: What's procinfo_mac.C?
16:00 <MTughan> And procinfo_unix.C.
16:05 <MTughan> brb
16:07 <MTughan> Gah, now I'm getting multiple definition errors...
16:12 <MTughan> And I think I might know why...
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16:15 <MTughan> Nope.
16:15 <PovAddict> time to xperiment again
16:15 <PovAddict> since I don't have access to my old makefile
16:16 <MTughan> It seems like it's compiling each file twice...
16:16 <MTughan> And maybe it is... Gah!
16:16 <MTughan> I know why...
16:17 <MTughan> Yeah, that was most of them. Now there's a main method in both boinc_cmd and crypt_prog.
16:17 <PovAddict> don't compile either
16:18 <MTughan> Built.
16:18 <MTughan> Hehe... Had to remove .o's, .Po's, Windows files, some process info ones...
16:19 <MTughan> And then the huge number of redefinition errors was because I had included gui_rpc_client(_ops)? before, then included them again. :P
16:19 <MTughan> So it literally was compiling them twice.
16:20 <MTughan> What's config.h for?
16:20 <PovAddict> generated by configure script
16:20 <PovAddict> make an empty one, should work
16:20 <MTughan> Okay.
16:21 <MTughan> Errors from filesys.C.
16:21 <MTughan> With struct statfs.
16:22 <MTughan> Sorry... struct STATFS.
16:22 <MTughan> Sounds like a #define.
16:22 <PovAddict> BOINC uses uppercase for struct/class names
16:23 <MTughan> Hmm... It built before with include dirs at boinc/ and boinc/lib/
16:23 <MTughan> Do I need filesys.C?
16:23 <PovAddict> I don't think you do
16:23 <MTughan> Nothing hit yet...
16:24 <MTughan> "BOINC_SOCKLEN_T" does not name a type
16:25 <PovAddict> hmm you need filesys actually...
16:25 <MTughan> Hmm, undo won't bring it back... No prob.
16:27 <MTughan> Same errors.
16:28 <MTughan> Plus STATFS.
16:28 <PovAddict> I'm still tracking down needed stuff
16:28 <MTughan> Okay.
16:28 <PovAddict> filesys not needed, miofile and mfile needed
16:28 <MTughan> Both are in there.
16:28 <PovAddict> network.C too (contains boinc_close_socket and others)
16:28 <MTughan> In there.
16:29 <MTughan> This is at compilation, not linking BTW.
16:29 <PovAddict> hmm
16:29 <PovAddict> BOINC_SOCKLEN_T gives erorr?
16:29 <PovAddict> error*
16:29 <MTughan> "does not name a type".
16:29 <PovAddict> grepping everything
16:29 <MTughan> Then BOINC_MAJOR_VERSION, BOINC_MINOR_VERSION, and BOINC_RELEASE not defined.
16:30 <PovAddict> what file and line give those errors?
16:30 <MTughan> In gui_rpc_client_ops.C, lines 1027-1029.
16:30 <PovAddict> what about socklen
16:30 <MTughan> BOINC_SOCKLEN_T is actually in network.h...
16:31 <MTughan> Line 56.
16:31 <PovAddict> see clientgui/mac/config.h
16:32 <MTughan> Hmm, so I'll need to include that?
16:32 <MTughan> Or is that my config.h?
16:35 <PovAddict> that kind of stuff is usually figured out by the configure script
16:35 <MTughan> Using that as config.h gets rid of BOINC_SOCKLEN_T errors.
16:35 <MTughan> Now missing version.h...
16:35 <MTughan> Easy to get.
16:35 <PovAddict> it's in the root directory :)
16:35 <PovAddict> in boinc
16:35 <MTughan> Yep.
16:35 <MTughan> Building...
16:36 <MTughan> Now missing 8 symbols... Main ones are boinc_fopen, boinc_catch_signal, boinc_copy, and boinc_set_signal_handler.
16:37 <PovAddict> boinc_fopen is from filesys - I just noticed that
16:37 <MTughan> Hmm, a lot of those symbols are from diagnostics.C...
16:37 <MTughan> And util.C.
16:39 <MTughan> Okay, filesys had 6 of those symbols. Now missing boinc_catch_signal and boinc_set_signal_handler.
16:39 <PovAddict> finally got it here
16:39 <PovAddict> only missing a WinAPI function
16:39 <MTughan> What is diagnostics.C?
16:39 <PovAddict> here's the ones I needed:
16:39 <PovAddict> gui_rpc_client.o gui_rpc_client_ops.o miofile.o mfile.o parse.o network.o md5.o md5_file.o prefs.o filesys.o util.o str_util.o hostinfo.o
16:40 <PovAddict> plus win_util (which you don't need) and gui_rpc_client_print (which you don't need if you don't use the print() methods, which are mostly for debugging, and used by boinc_cmd)
16:40 <MTughan> I've got all of those.
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16:40 <MTughan> Except win_util, but as you said I don't need it.
16:41 <PovAddict> are you linking diagnostics?
16:41 <MTughan> Yes.
16:41 <PovAddict> don't
16:41 <PovAddict> might solve it :)
16:41 <MTughan> What I wanted to hear...
16:41 <MTughan> Success.
16:42 <MTughan> Just cleaning then rebuilding to be sure.
16:42 <MTughan> We're good.
16:42 <PovAddict> mine compiled but doesn't work
16:42 <PovAddict> I need some extra WinSock stuff
16:42 <MTughan> So I'm probably fine then.
16:43 <MTughan> What's the class name again?
16:43 <Romulus> Title: Nopaste - No description (at rafb.net)
16:44 <PovAddict> yep, works for me after adding WSAStartup call
16:45 <MTughan> What is the GUI RPC class called again?
16:45 <MTughan> RPC_CLIENT, as in your code?
16:45 <PovAddict> yep
16:45 <MTughan> Okay, so I can have an RPC_CLIENT object in my Obj-C class.
16:50 <xcamel> dumb question (brain fart)
16:50 <wdsmia> asks xcamel to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.
16:50 <xcamel> what do they call those "tiny box" machines..
16:50 <efc> Gumstix? or not that tiny
16:51 <xcamel> lanparty machines..
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16:51 <xcamel> little cubes or shoebox machines
16:52 <efc> Like the Mac Mini?
16:53 <efc> there's a small class that starts with H..
16:53 <xcamel> sorta of, yes.
16:54 <Tank_Master> hey
16:54 <efc> HPC or something like that, the TIVO clone boxes
16:54 <Tank_Master> TIVO rocks
16:54 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007
16:54 <Tank_Master> &more
16:54 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 46.2°F / 7.9°C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 29.75in / 1007.3hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 4.0mph / 6.4km/h ; Today - Rain increasing. Highs around 45. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the south in the afternoon.; Tonight - Rain...breezy. Lows around 35. Southwest wind 15 to 25 mph.; Sunday - Rain. Snow level 1000 feet. Snow accumulation up to (1 more message)
16:54 <Romulus> Tank_Master: 1 inch possible above 1000 ft. Highs around 40. Southwest wind 10 to 20 mph.;
16:57 <xcamel> ah - found some at aopen
16:59 <efc> What were they called?
17:00 <MTughan> bbiab
17:04 <xcamel> shuttle xpc
17:04 <xcamel> core 2 quad barebones - $824
17:05 <xcamel> Dimensions: 30 x 20 x 18.5 cm (LWH)
17:06 <xcamel> that could be quite the deal...
17:07 <xcamel> 2 of those gives 8 clients, and mighty low power requirements..
17:14 <efc> You can buy 4, set them inside that wood burning stove, and heat the house
17:16 <MTughan> lol
17:27 <xcamel> yummy goulash
17:28 <xcamel> interesting contact today... dog sledders...
17:29 <xcamel> looks like I'm going to set up and groom some trails for them...
17:29 <xcamel> 'mushing is phun' ....
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18:01 <efc> The path leads to the fountain. You want to fulfill your bucket.
18:21 <xcamel> what if you are standing in the bucket?
18:22 <efc> There exists a path outside the water
18:30 <xcamel> ok... this is insane...
18:30 <Romulus> Title: Flash The Llama Song (at www.albinoblacksheep.com)
18:31 <xcamel> try not to commit suicide after the first 60 seconds
18:34 <PovAddict> o.0
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19:16 <xcamel> did some deeper cleaning on the HP - we'll see how long it runs now..
19:27 <xcamel> lol - about 5 minutes.
19:38 <xcamel> &weather 12074
19:38 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 33.7°F / 0.9°C | Humidity: 67% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014.1hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Sunday - Partly sunny in the morning...then becoming mostly cloudy. Highs in the upper 30s. West winds around 5 mph...becoming north around 5 mph in the afternoon.; Sunday (1 more message)
19:38 <xcamel> &more
19:38 <Romulus> xcamel: Night - Snow likely in the evening...then snow after midnight. Total accumulation of 2 to 4 inches. Lows in the upper 20s. Light and variable winds...becoming northeast around 5 mph after midnight. Chance of snow 90 percent.;
19:42 <xcamel> still nice out
19:46 <wdsmia> &weather 50265
19:46 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 25°F / -4°C | Humidity: 69% | Pressure: 30.02in / 1016hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low 15 to 20. South wind 5 to 10 mph.; Sunday - Partly sunny. High around 30. South wind 10 to 15 mph.; Sunday Night - Mostly cloudy. Scattered flurries in the evening... then a slight chance of snow after midnight. Low around (1 more message)
19:46 <wdsmia> &more
19:46 <Romulus> wdsmia: 20. Southwest wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 20 percent.;
19:48 <xcamel> is that a "warm up" ?
19:48 <wdsmia> it is for here
19:49 <xcamel> thanks, Nic
19:49 <PovAddict> xcamel: interesting... you did testing back on pre-release days (astropulse) but you don't have a boinc alpha account?
19:50 <xcamel> no, I gave up on fighting with them and just run the latest build against live projects
19:50 <PovAddict> fair enough
19:51 <xcamel> Dave is aware of this "compromise"
19:52 <wdsmia> Pov back then it was Beta Alpha didnt start till June? 2005
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19:58 <xcamel> I started in may, 2000
19:59 <xcamel> my how time flies...
20:01 <xcamel> er... fruit flies
20:02 <wdsmia> lol
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20:35 <E-30> hey
20:39 <E-30> how are you doing
20:39 <E-30> wow
20:40 <E-30> what happen
20:40 <PriitM> I'm installing Vista for the first time in my life
20:40 <PriitM> on virtual machine... I belive it might actually be worse than that picture
20:41 <E-30> wow fuck on that
20:41 <wdsmia> asks E-30 to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.
20:41 <E-30> one
20:41 <E-30> i had hell doing it on one i was infrount of for that mater
20:42 <PriitM> installation is finished by now
20:42 <E-30> nice vis but bad resorce usege
20:42 <PriitM> i got it running with 1gb of ram and 8mb video memory
20:42 <xcamel> vista still sucks
20:43 <PriitM> very uncomfortable
20:43 <E-30> i have it with 4 gig and 768mb of vid
20:43 <E-30> yea
20:43 <E-30> hey xcamel
20:43 <PriitM> I got 256mb 7600gt, but virtualbox offered only 8mb by default
20:43 <xcamel> 'lo E
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20:44 <xcamel> lol - pink floyd quote
20:44 <E-30> well i have it running on a 8800 and core 2 duo 6600 oc to 3.4 ghz
20:44 <E-30> lol
20:44 <PriitM> ooh, as fresh vista takes quite a bit of ram - about the same amount how much xp with firefox and msn takes
20:44 <xcamel> that's pms-n
20:45 <PriitM> pfft, horroble sentence
20:46 <PriitM> awful
20:46 <E-30> lol
20:46 <PriitM> just awful :P
20:47 <E-30> well vista takes as much resorce as my xp box running battlefeild 2142
20:48 <PriitM> after seeing vista I'm so happy that I got away from windows
20:48 <E-30> lol
20:48 <xcamel> I repeat.. vista still sucks
20:48 <E-30> i like xp i will stay there as longas i can
20:48 <PriitM> windows xp pro was the only one what I actually liked
20:49 <xcamel> xppro now with sp3
20:49 <E-30> that is what i run
20:50 <PriitM> works on older PCs quite fine as well
20:50 <E-30> yea
20:50 <Tank_Master> Vista rocks for BOINC
20:50 <E-30> why
20:50 <Tank_Master> I can get in an additional 24 min of comput time a day over XP
20:50 <E-30> i cant get it to install
20:50 <Tank_Master> odd
20:51 <E-30> on this labtop
20:51 <Tank_Master> btw, the SP3 for XP is NOT! the final version
20:52 <xcamel> the beta rc is pretty good
20:52 <E-30> lol
20:52 <Tank_Master> I got server 2008 to run on a dual P3 board w/o probs, I wonder why vista would have problems ona laptop
20:53 <PriitM> I tried to install win home server, even made 67gb virtual partition, but it still gave me error that I don't have enough room :/
20:54 <Tank_Master> Washington law: When two trains come to a crossing, neither shall go until the other has passed.
20:55 <Tank_Master> how does that work?
20:56 <E-30> 5y drfgcx3bvh hbjm
20:56 <Tank_Master> hehe
20:56 <Tank_Master> cd key for vista?
20:56 <E-30> help me
20:57 <Tank_Master> Am I correct in that your tryingto install it into a VM?
20:57 <E-30> this is his wife
20:57 <Tank_Master> ahh
20:58 <Tank_Master> what do you need help with?'
20:58 <xcamel> hello wife...
20:58 <PriitM> PriitM requires some sleep. good night
20:58 <Tank_Master> gn PM
20:58 <xcamel> congrats, btw..
20:58 <E-30> chris is tickling me to death
20:58 <Tank_Master> :P
20:58 <xcamel> TMI...
20:59 <E-30> not that way geeze get your mind out of the gutter
20:59 <Tank_Master> flipping up one's shirt usually diverts another's attantion
20:59 <E-30> he never lifted up my shirt
21:00 <Tank_Master> bummer ;) guy needs more practice
21:00 <E-30> im the daughter of a retired marine i like to roughhouse
21:01 <Tank_Master> fun times :D
21:01 <xcamel> no comment...
21:02 <E-30> so what you guys up to?
21:03 * xcamel is away: Gone away for now.
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21:03 <Tank_Master> reading dumb signs and laws
21:03 <E-30> sounds like fun chris is picking on me
21:03 <Tank_Master> did you know in Washington its a misdeminor to be in public with the common cold?
21:04 <E-30> weird
21:04 <Tank_Master> And its illegal to have sex with a virgin
21:04 <E-30> gee that sucks
21:05 <Tank_Master> In oregon, its illegal to wisper errotic words to the partner while haveing sex
21:05 <E-30> so where are you?
21:05 <Tank_Master> Or
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21:06 <Tank_Master> also, in Oklohoma, your car must be thethered up when parked
21:08 <Tank_Master> lol, oh yeah - In Or, Dishes MUST drip dry
21:09 <Tank_Master> anywho, MY dinner is ready, ill bbl
21:09 <Tank_Master> hf rough houseing ;)
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21:26 <blacklabelsk8er> anyone participating in seti not recieving new work units?
21:40 <MTughan> I can't upload WUs to S@H...
21:40 <E-30> who knows
21:40 <MTughan> Oh wait, it did upload...
21:41 <MTughan> It wasn't before.
21:41 <E-30> lol
21:41 <blacklabelsk8er> I havent been able to do anything with S@H all afternoon
21:42 <MTughan> I don't know if I can download WUs. I have my machine set to not download any work right now.
21:44 <E-30> ok
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21:52 <BadBarbarian> evening all
21:56 <blacklabelsk8er> hello Bad_At_Home
21:56 <blacklabelsk8er> er BadBarbarian
21:57 <MTughan> One and the same anyway.
22:09 <Soul_keeper> it would be nice to go on deal or no deal
22:09 <Soul_keeper> it's pretty much guaranteed free money
22:10 <efc> Deal
22:12 <Soul_keeper> you just pick a briefcase and keep saying no deal, and you get whatever is in it ...
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22:17 <MTughan> And if it's a cent?
22:18 *** E-30 has quit IRC
22:18 <Soul_keeper> bla
22:19 <Soul_keeper> then you're a cent richer
22:20 <MTughan> lol
22:21 <efc> Life is better with the Flash blocker
22:21 <PovAddict> 'tis
22:21 <efc> Its like the web went back to 1997
22:21 <PovAddict> good thing
22:22 <PovAddict> I just finished writing a youtube downloader
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22:22 <MTughan> Yeah, slow as molasses in January.
22:22 <MTughan> Hey, I can check that in two days...
22:22 <MTughan> Wait, three... Damn!
22:22 <E-30> yea
22:23 <E-30> .lol
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23:32 <quail> &weather ypad
23:32 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 91Â°F / 33Â°C | Humidity: 26% | Pressure: 29.86in / 1011hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 2:30 PM CST; Clear. High:98 ° F. / 37 ° C.; Clear. Low:68 ° F. / 20 ° C.; Clear. High:98 ° F. / 37 ° C.; Clear. Low:75 ° F. / 24 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:107 ° F. / 42 ° C.; Clear. Low:68 ° F. / 20 ° C.;
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23:40 <Soul_keeper> hmmm
23:42 <Soul_keeper> nice
23:42 * PovAddict just notes a good opportunity to test his downloader
23:43 <PovAddict> http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar/youtube.php?video_id=k1K8woV4C4M for flv from youtube, http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar/youtube.php?convertxvid=yes&video_id=k1K8woV4C4M for xvid converted on my machine and *slowly* uploaded back
23:44 <PovAddict> hmm
23:46 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86046
23:46 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 27°F / -2.8°C | Humidity: 58% | Pressure: in / hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 3mph / 4.8km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows 11 to 17. Light winds.; Sunday - Not as cold. Partly cloudy in the morning then becoming mostly sunny. Highs around 44. Light winds.; Sunday Night - Mostly clear. Lows 16 to 22. Southwest winds around 15 mph early in the evening (1 more message)
23:47 <BadBarbarian> &more
23:47 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: becoming light.;
23:47 <BadBarbarian> evening all
23:47 <Tidus> evening
23:48 <BadBarbarian> wasup tidus
23:49 <BadBarbarian> good i hope
23:49 <Tidus> just listening to some loud angry music lol
23:49 <BadBarbarian> thats not a bad thing lol
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23:50 <BadBarbarian> howdt Wabbit
23:50 <Wabbit67> hmmm
23:50 <BadBarbarian> lol
23:51 <Wabbit67> I blame Doctor Who
23:51 <BadBarbarian> at my favorate bar on wifi
23:51 <BadBarbarian> lol
23:52 <Soul_keeper> any of you used HSDPA yet ?
23:52 <Tidus> i'm at home with a usb wireless stick barely poking out the window to catch the neighbor's wireless
23:55 <MTughan> Oh, damn it... Knew that would happen.
23:56 <MTughan> I pulled the power cable enough to shake the lid...
23:56 <Tidus> whoops
23:56 <MTughan> And it does what it's been doing. Kernel panics.
23:56 <PovAddict> you're doing it wrong
23:56 <MTughan> lol
23:56 <MTughan> True, I draped the cables over the front of the desk.
23:57 <Wabbit67> I hate it when corn panics
23:57 <MTughan> Probably wasn't the smartest idea.
23:57 <MTughan> lol