00:03 <Soul_keeper> nobody tryed HSDPA then ?
00:03 <MTughan> What is that?
00:03 <Soul_keeper> wireless broadband
00:03 <MTughan> Nope.
00:03 <Soul_keeper> the new 3g connectivity cards
00:04 <MTughan> Okay, now I don't have a Mac in my way anymore...
00:04 <Tidus> lol
00:05 <Tidus> Soul_keeper: sorry, i'm not through AT&T wireless, so ...
00:05 <MTughan> I was afraid to move it because it's been kernel panicking. But now that I set it off anyway, perfect time to move it.
00:05 <efc> &weather 30625
00:05 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 52°F / 11°C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 30.03in / 1017hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Tonight - Showers likely with a slight chance of thunderstorms in the evening...then showers with a slight chance of thunderstorms after midnight. Lows around 50. Light and variable winds. Chance of rain 80 percent.; Sunday - Showers with a chance of (1 more message)
00:06 <efc> Light rain but stronger than a satellite signal
00:07 <MTughan> WTF? Why'd it panic this time? I didn't move it.
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00:08 <Tidus> you breathed in its direction?
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00:09 <MTughan> And looks like it's back to refusing to boot.
00:09 <MTughan> Did that before, no effect.
00:09 <Tidus> you looked at it?
00:09 <Tidus> lol
00:09 <Tidus> it's a mac.
00:09 <MTughan> Hehe, maybe light has increased in mass...
00:10 <PovAddict> computer gods are picking on you
00:10 <PovAddict> simple
00:10 <Soul_keeper> well the computer programmer won on jeopardy ...
00:11 <Soul_keeper> the other morons didn't know about morris code
00:11 <MTughan> If the computer gods are picking on me, why does my P4 still work?
00:11 <MTughan> You mean Morse code.
00:11 <Tidus> the gods forgive transgressions like the pentium 4
00:11 <Soul_keeper> lol yeah
00:11 <MTughan> Even the Prescotts?
00:11 <Tidus> the preshott was the worst one
00:11 <Soul_keeper> leave my prescott out of this ...
00:11 <Tidus> 80C at idle with the stock cooler is simply unacceptable
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00:12 <sethy> 's goin on guys?
00:12 <PovAddict> WTF Tidus
00:12 <sethy> no
00:12 <Tidus> my laptop is a transgression in itself
00:12 <sethy> sethy
00:12 <Soul_keeper> i got the most powerfull fan they make on my heatsink ...
00:12 <PovAddict> my P4 reached 75C max on full load
00:12 <MTughan> That run at 55C idle with standard cooling?
00:12 <MTughan> Or was it higher...
00:12 <MTughan> Eh, I don't remember.
00:12 <PovAddict> and i thought it was too much
00:12 <Tidus> dell inspiron 5100 with a desktop p4 northwood 2.4 in it
00:12 <PovAddict> p4 3.0ghz
00:12 <Soul_keeper> sounds like a helicopter but keeps it a cool 55-60c
00:13 <Tidus> Soul_keeper: i'm running an overclocked athlon64
00:13 <Tidus> from 2.2 to 2.6
00:13 <Tidus> on the STOCK heatsink, it stays quiet and never exdceeds 40c
00:13 <Soul_keeper> 2.8e @ 3.2 here
00:13 <MTughan> I think with my oversize Zalman cooler, I can run at about 75C on full load.
00:13 <MTughan> P4 2.8GHz, HT on.
00:14 <Soul_keeper> i'd love to sell this beast
00:14 <Tidus> MTughan: lol... pretty sad that a stock cooler with some arctic silver 5 can keep this beast that cool
00:14 <MTughan> The Mac (the broken one ATM) is an Intel Core Duo 2.0GHz. Runs at about 80-85C on full load, but it's also a smaller fan.
00:14 <Soul_keeper> tomshardware just did an intel power consumption comparison http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/12/28/intel_cpu_power_consumption/
00:16 <efc> Has HT worked out well for boinc stuff? I've always kept it off, assuming that sharing the L2 cache would do more harm than good.
00:16 <Soul_keeper> it works fine
00:16 <PovAddict> HT annoyed the hell out of me
00:16 <sethy> w00t my birthday is on ash wednesday in 2008 <3, double for nothing i say
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00:17 <MTughan> Yeah, seems to work all right.
00:17 <MTughan> I am considering upgrading my machine though. Go full way to a 64-bit quad core.
00:17 <MTughan> New MB, CPU, RAM, GPU. About $1000 altogether.
00:17 <BadBarbarian[a]> evening SK & POV & MT
00:17 <MTughan> Should be nice if/when I do it.
00:17 <Soul_keeper> increases performance like 15-30% in my experience
00:17 <MTughan> 'lo BB[a]
00:17 <MTughan> You've become an array?
00:17 <MTughan> :P
00:17 <efc> oh drat, out of s@h work again
00:17 <BadBarbarian[a]> hey Mt
00:20 <efc> with flash off, Toms is almost usable!
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00:20 <MTughan> The problem with just upgrading to a C2Q is that I have a socket 478 MB... >_>
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00:20 <PovAddict> sleep
00:20 <MTughan> Bye.
00:20 <PovAddict> it's 2:20 am
00:20 <PovAddict> wait
00:20 <PovAddict> 3:20
00:20 <MTughan> Yeah, no DST yet.
00:20 <MTughan> Or I'm wrong...
00:20 <sethy> PovAddict: thats too early
00:21 <PovAddict> I haven't changed my computer clock
00:21 <sethy> 05:21:08
00:21 <PovAddict> sethy: so?
00:21 <sethy> quit being lazy
00:21 <BadBarbarian[a]> 10:20 pm nere
00:21 <PovAddict> the three levels:
00:21 <PovAddict> parents complain if I stay longer than 1 am
00:21 <PovAddict> I don't like staying longer than 3 am
00:21 <BadBarbarian[a]> lol
00:21 <PovAddict> friends keep saying "what, you never stayed all night?"
00:22 <BadBarbarian[a]> sorry
00:22 <MTughan> How about New Years?
00:22 <MTughan> We'll pull all nighters.
00:22 <MTughan> Hmm... That'll be hard with all the people across the US, and at least Pov in Argentina and yoyo in Germany.
00:22 <sethy> england here
00:22 <sethy> _o/
00:22 <efc> "Cylon and Garfunkle"
00:22 <MTughan> There's another...
00:22 <PovAddict> MTughan: I won't be at home during new years
00:22 <PovAddict> going to my grandad's
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00:22 <BadBarbarian[a]> pov where in arg
00:22 <PovAddict> so, have fun for me... in #freenode-newyears
00:22 <MTughan> sethy: Although you and yoyo can almost celebrate at the same time.
00:22 <MTughan> Ooo, nice.
00:22 <PovAddict> you might asplode laughing (I did last year)
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00:23 <sethy> but i celebrate over 3 nights....
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00:23 <sethy> pre and post new year celebrations :D
00:23 <BadBarbarian[a]> i do peru every winter
00:23 <MTughan> Hmm, that just redirects to #defocus right now...
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00:23 <PovAddict> when new years was reached on any timezone 'round the globe, everybody started flooding the channel with "happy new year [list of countries]"
00:23 <PovAddict> way too many messages *per second*
00:23 <MTughan> lol
00:23 <sethy> happy new year and </2007>\
00:23 <sethy> <2008>
00:23 <MTughan> Hehe...
00:23 <PovAddict> and people getting drunk
00:24 <sethy> _o/
00:24 <PovAddict> oh and there was one depressed dude throwing rants into the channel
00:24 <BadBarbarian[a]> Pov where are you located
00:24 <PovAddict> and another idiot throwing religious evangelism
00:24 <MTughan> I just said "Wake me up when it's New Years..."
00:25 <Soul_keeper> lol
00:25 <BadBarbarian[a]> leavining for cosco next week
00:25 <MTughan> In #freenode-newyears, aka #defocus.
00:26 <sethy> i just realised i'm layed out like a woman when giving birth....
00:26 <BadBarbarian[a]> lol
00:26 <MTughan> Uh...
00:26 <MTughan> What do you say to that?
00:26 <sethy> taking a $#!& doesnt count...
00:27 <sethy> well anyway i got my database up and running
00:27 <BadBarbarian[a]> sorry POV if i was telling where i was going
00:28 <BadBarbarian[a]> please forgive me
00:28 * sethy starts collecting birthdays again
00:29 <Soul_keeper> Blastid !!!
00:29 <sethy> !!!
00:29 <PovAddict> damn I had my coords
00:29 <sethy> ITZ A ANGRY Soul_keeper
00:30 <MTughan> lol
00:30 <Soul_keeper> yeah my irc chan died, cause i work too much
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00:30 <Soul_keeper> also i'm mostly poor
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00:31 <PovAddict> wow defocus is random
00:31 <PovAddict> users are exploding each other
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00:33 <MTughan> Ah, that's why. He's on Comcast. :P
00:33 <sethy> OH YES, they finaly posted on /c/
00:33 <PovAddict> what is c again?
00:34 <sethy> /c/ is anime/cute
00:34 <efc> hmm, lot of people running core 2 quads @ 3 gig?
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00:34 <sethy> NOT /b/
00:34 <sethy> but /c/
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00:36 <efc> (in ref to the toms article)
00:36 <MTughan> efc: Could be.
00:37 <MTughan> Anyone know which would be better? Core 2 Quad or Xeons?
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00:39 <efc> I've never seen much advantage to the xeons unless you want multi-cpu boards
00:39 <efc> they probably are a smidgen faster due to cache
00:40 <MTughan> I'll have to see how much it is for a dual processor board. If I do that, I might have to scale back to dual cores.
00:41 <MTughan> Although another quad core would just about about $200-300 more.
00:41 <MTughan> Hmm... I can get a Phenom 2.3GHz, one of the processors I had originally looked at, for a bit less because of Boxing Day sales...
00:41 <efc> its ridiculous from what i've seen
00:42 <efc> been a while since I looked though
00:42 <MTughan> What, Boxing Day sales, or quad cores?
00:42 <PovAddict> I found myself again!
00:42 <efc> multi cpu boards
00:43 <MTughan> The Phenom's a nice processor too..
00:43 <MTughan> Ah.
00:43 <efc> also the cpus have a premium
00:43 <MTughan> I'm just thinking about the Mac Pro. It's dual quad-core Xeons at 3.0GHz.
00:43 <MTughan> zombie has one of those.
00:43 <MTughan> So 8-core 3.0GHz.
00:44 <PovAddict> BadBarbarian[a]: 34Â° 44' 20" S 58Â° 23' 20" W
00:44 <PovAddict> (rounded a bit; I don't want any of you knocking at my door)
00:44 <MTughan> Think about what that could do on BOINC...
00:44 <Soul_keeper> lol suzy orman would tell you about affording that ...
00:44 <efc> If you figure out the relative cost/benefit I'd like to hear about it
00:44 <MTughan> lol, I already found your address, remember Pov?
00:44 <efc> I'd guess its a loser but who knows
00:44 <MTughan> efc: Okay, but it'll be in CDN.
00:44 <PovAddict> MTughan: so?
00:44 <PovAddict> you still haven't come :)
00:44 <MTughan> I don't happen to have the money for a plane ticket.
00:44 <PovAddict> :D
00:45 <PovAddict> and if you did, you'd upgrade your computer instead
00:45 <MTughan> Oh yeah.
00:45 <PovAddict> ok I rly g2g
00:45 <MTughan> Okay, so the AMD Opterons I can get are all dual-core...
00:45 <MTughan> Bye.
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00:45 <PovAddict> I want somebody to write me an IRC bot that logs chat
00:45 <Bad_At_Home> lol later POVi
00:45 <PovAddict> with millisecond precision
00:46 <MTughan> lol
00:46 <PovAddict> for freenode-newyears
00:46 <sethy> g00gle?
00:46 <PovAddict> and a "player" to play back the log making it look as if you were on the channel
00:47 <MTughan> Well, there's a Phenom and ASUS MB combo that they're selling for a fairly nice price... Except the MB has slow memory and an integrated GPU. So it's a piece of crap.
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00:49 <MTughan> Anyone know what socket the Xeons use? Is it 775?
00:49 <Soul_keeper> there is a big difference in price between boards with 1 pci2 16x slot and 2
00:49 <Soul_keeper> the price of the board more than doubles
00:50 <Soul_keeper> i just can't justify that, unless i can run boinc on a vid card or physx card
00:50 <Soul_keeper> 89 bucks vs. 229
00:50 <MTughan> What boards?
00:51 <Soul_keeper> looking at 775 boards
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00:51 <MTughan> I'm looking at ASUS M3A vs. M3A32-MVP (AM2+ boards) and they have almost the same ratio.
00:51 <Soul_keeper> the xeons are like 640 or 8-something pins i believe
00:51 <MTughan> Okay.
00:52 <MTughan> Oh, I guess they'd be under the category "Server Boards"... Duh!
00:52 <MTughan> Socket 771?
00:52 <MTughan> Nvm, looks like they haven't sold it for a while.
00:52 <Soul_keeper> yeah i just noticed that on newegg
00:53 <MTughan> Oh, does support 64-bit dual core Xeons...
00:53 <Soul_keeper> i'm eyeballing the abit ip35-e
00:54 <MTughan> This is the Intel S5000VSASCSI.
00:54 <Soul_keeper> the ABIT IX38 Quad GT is just too pricey for me
00:55 <MTughan> Although I'll just look at Asus AM2+ and 775 boards... For the Phenom and C2Q, respectively.
00:55 <MTughan> efc: Sorry, no multi-processor boards here.
00:55 <MTughan> Where I'm looking anyway.
00:56 <MTughan> Holy crap! 12 USB2 ports?!
00:56 <PovAddict> usb3 ftw
00:57 <MTughan> 6 SATA2 ports...
00:57 <MTughan> 2 PCI-Express 2.0 and 1 PCI-Express...
00:58 <MTughan> That's a really nice MB... Almost $300. :P
00:58 <MTughan> PovAddict: BED!
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01:03 <MTughan> Okay, why the hell are all the MBs that use external vid cards more expensive? You would think they'd be less expensive because you don't have to get another chip in there.
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01:04 <Soul_keeper> it's all the other features
01:04 <Tidus> it costs more to disable the northbridge graphics than to just leave it enabled.
01:04 <MTughan> I guess...
01:05 <MTughan> There... Got one at $160.
01:05 <MTughan> Dunno if I can get any cheaper.
01:05 <Tidus> my motherboard is a cheapass MSI K9VGM-V
01:06 <MTughan> I don't want to get shut down with a shitty Intel integrated card as I did in the Mac.
01:06 <wdsmia> asks MTughan to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.
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01:06 <MTughan> Using Vista's scoring method, my three year old ATI Radeon 9600 scores better than the GMA950.
01:09 <Tidus> MTughan: using that method, my old dual athlon with an ati x1950gt outran a dual core laptop with the GMA950
01:09 <MTughan> Whoa... Found a MB with 6 RAM slots...
01:09 <MTughan> Well, the X1950GT is a mean machine.
01:11 <MTughan> lol, advertises the OS compatibility to be XP/Vista.
01:12 <MTughan> I say "Load of crap."
01:12 * Tidus np: Cloud Nine [3:29/4:22] - The Open Door - 2006 by Evanescence | Metal | mp3 | 195 kbps
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01:15 <MTughan> We need to tell f0urty to get a better connection...
01:15 <MTughan> Ah, Comcast again...
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01:21 <MTughan> Okay, I think I found my motherboard if I go with the Phenom... Now for the Core 2 Quad MB.
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01:44 <sethy> wot sits on ya wotsits
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01:54 <Tank_Master> ?
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01:59 <Tank_Master> MT!
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02:02 <MTughan_> Whoa, that was fast...
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02:02 <Tank_Master> hey there
02:03 <MTughan> I just decided to check up on IRC again, and I've been disconnected...
02:03 <Tank_Master> ahh
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02:03 <MTughan> Looks like TSPer already quit and rejoined.
02:03 <Tank_Master> silly wabbit!
02:03 <MTughan> Anyway... Any brand of RAM that you know is good?
02:04 <Tank_Master> tsp was away for 10sec
02:04 <MTughan> I had originally gone with OCZ for my computer here, but we went through about 5 sets to find a good one.
02:04 <Tank_Master> corshare, kingston, ocz(sp?)
02:04 <MTughan> Luckily, we only paid for one.
02:04 <Tank_Master> odd
02:04 <MTughan> Okay, I'll look at Corsair and Kingston.
02:04 <Tank_Master> will, I go with Kingston and have never had a problem
02:05 <MTughan> Also, have you ever heard of Mushkin?
02:05 <Tank_Master> they deal a lot in the server markets
02:05 <Tank_Master> yeah
02:05 <Tank_Master> not to bad
02:06 <MTughan> I'm just pricing out RAM to go with the MBs I chose.
02:06 <MTughan> What the? How can RAM be nVidia SLI ready?
02:06 <Tank_Master> hehe
02:06 <MTughan> Does it mean that SLI can use the RAM?
02:07 <Tidus> it just means it's certified for use in an SLI system
02:07 <Tank_Master> the newer nVidia chipsets allow memory manufactures to put in extra info that sint JEDC standard to better give the true capibilityies of the RAM
02:07 * sethy rawrs
02:07 <MTughan> Hmm, I was thinking about going to 4GB, but looks like it might be too expensive.
02:07 <Tank_Master> not true, Tidus
02:07 <sethy> might?
02:08 <Tank_Master> the chipset Intel is comming out with soon (or the current one even) has the same capibility
02:08 <MTughan> Each dual-channel pair of DDR2 1066 RAM 2GB I've looked at is about $150. I was hoping to stay under $200.
02:08 <sethy> tried newegg?
02:09 <MTughan> Nope, I'm not buying online.
02:09 <Tank_Master> fry's has on sale some DDR800 4GB from OCZ for $75 after rebate
02:09 <Tank_Master> DDR2*
02:09 <MTughan> And besides, with the SLI ready memory, neither motherboard I chose supports SLI anyway. :P
02:09 <sethy> i could do with more CPU still
02:09 <MTughan> DDR2 800? No thanks, I'd want faster.
02:09 <sethy> +0.9GHz isnt enough
02:09 <Tank_Master> lol
02:10 <MTughan> Max is 1066.
02:10 <Tank_Master> Id like to replace all my comps at work with quads ;)
02:10 <MTughan> Now this looks cool... http://www.canadacomputers.com/main.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=014214&cid=RAM.346.754
02:10 <MTughan> Just the name too... The Reaper.
02:11 <sethy> i'd like to use all the comps at college
02:12 <sethy> most of them are 600Mhz but some in the media suit are DC-2.4GHz
02:12 <Tank_Master> DDR2 1200
02:12 <sethy> lax images
02:12 <MTughan> Yep, DDR2 1200.
02:12 <Tank_Master> nice speed ;)
02:13 <MTughan> The AMD can't take it though. And the Intel can only take it with OC.
02:13 <Tank_Master> depends on the mobo
02:13 <MTughan> Or maybe it's just an MB issue...
02:13 <Tank_Master> but if you run it al lower speeds, you canalso lower the timings
02:14 <Soul_keeper> no abit boards ?
02:14 <Tank_Master> that mobo supports 1200 DDR2
02:14 <MTughan> I like the ASUSes.
02:14 <Tank_Master> same ehre
02:14 <MTughan> The Intel does, yes.
02:14 <MTughan> Notice though...
02:14 <MTughan> * DDR2 1200 is O.C. speed
02:14 <Tank_Master> y would you want AMD these days?
02:14 <MTughan> The Phenom looks really nice. Quad core 2.3GHz.
02:14 <MTughan> And at this point, it's a little cheaper. $20, but...
02:15 <Tank_Master> no, not with asus, they can run at higher than rated memspeeds for a given FSB
02:15 <Soul_keeper> amd is still cool ...
02:15 <Tank_Master> cool?
02:15 <MTughan> The chipset only officially supports up to DDR2 800 if I remember correctly...
02:15 <Tank_Master> have you seen what the high end quads from AMD run at?
02:16 <Tank_Master> Asus engenerrs are good, they can tweek most of that stuff ;)
02:16 <MTughan> Yeah.
02:18 <MTughan> Well, I'm still gonna look for DDR2 1066. I know it'll work, and then I don't have to look for two different sets of RAM.
02:18 <Romulus> Title: Intel Pentium 4 511 2.80GHz, 533MHz FSB, 1MB Cache, 90nm, 64-Bit EM64T, XD, LGA775 Socket 775/T CPU Processor: BX80547PE2800EN (Retail with Fan and Heatsink) (Non-Refundable) (Discontinued) (at www.xpcgear.com)
02:18 <Tank_Master> :)
02:18 <Tank_Master> true
02:18 <Tank_Master> and im gonna head to bed
02:18 <MTughan> Bye.
02:18 <Tank_Master> gn ye all
02:18 <sethy> night
02:19 <MTughan> sethy: Almost looks like mine. Same clock speed and model. Just that mine is a socket 478 and 32-bit.
02:20 <sethy> i need a better onw
02:20 <sethy> one*
02:20 <MTughan> That's why I'm looking.
02:20 <MTughan> Depending on your mobo, you might just have to upgrade CPU and RAM.
02:20 <MTughan> Unlike mine, where I have to upgrade all the core components.
02:21 <sethy> what mobo you got
02:21 <MTughan> It's an ASUS... One sec.
02:21 <sethy> cos i dont have a clue what mobo i got
02:21 <sethy> i dont think mine is asus
02:22 <MTughan> P4C800-E Deluxe.
02:22 <MTughan> Let me see if I can find it.
02:22 <sethy> i like the one i have in the one downstairs
02:23 <sethy> the asus A7V8X-X
02:24 <sethy> its a very reliable mobo and would recomend it anyone else
02:24 <sethy> if they can find one
02:25 <MTughan> lol, they're not exactly easy to find anymore, are they?
02:25 <MTughan> Okay, it's not on Asus's site...
02:26 <MTughan> Here's a review... http://www.bleedinedge.com/reviews/asus_p4c800e/asus_p4c800e_pg1.html
02:30 <MTughan> Anyway, back to part hunting... Found the RAM I can use, so now for a graphics card.
02:31 <MTughan> Wow... I'm only at about $750 with taxes at this point...
02:32 <MTughan> That's gonna get higher though... Especially if I go for a pretty decent ATI or nVidia chipset.
02:33 <MTughan> Oh, seems that I can get a pretty decent ATI card for under $100...
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02:35 <MTughan> Heh... Tidus: You said earlier that your ATI X1950GT could outrun a GMA950. Well, I can get an X1950GT for about $130...
02:35 <Tidus> i paid 160 for mine
02:35 <Tidus> that was last year
02:35 <MTughan> And it comes with Ghost Recon... :P
02:35 <sethy> i cant find out what my mobo is
02:35 <sethy> D:
02:36 <MTughan> Wow... Ghost Recon is only worth about $8... :P
02:36 <MTughan> Without it costs $125.
02:36 <Tidus> i think i need to pick my jaw up off the floor...
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02:36 <Tidus> found one of my dream cars for a LOT less than i thought
02:37 <MTughan> What one?
02:37 <Tidus> 1988 Chevy Camaro IROC-Z for 2650
02:37 <Tidus> only 108k miles, near pristine condition
02:37 * MTughan whistls
02:37 <MTughan> whistles*
02:37 <efc> Mmmmm
02:37 <MTughan> Getting late enough that I start typing weird...
02:37 <MTughan> 'lo e
02:37 <efc> I want a Mustang but will probably get something boring..
02:38 <MTughan> How 'bout a Nissan Sentra? :P
02:38 <Tidus> if i ever get a spare bit of cash, i'm buyin that shit
02:38 <wdsmia> asks Tidus to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.
02:38 <Tidus> woops
02:38 <efc> Infiniti G35 wouldn't be too bad
02:38 <Tidus> sorry
02:38 <efc> probably end up with a corolla or similar
02:39 <efc> love the mustang though :(
02:39 <Tidus> right now i drive a semi-wrecked crown vic
02:39 <MTughan> Infiniti's owned by Nissan.
02:40 <efc> Yeah
02:40 <MTughan> Well, we're pretty good. Got an '05 Sentra and an '06 Dodge Caravan.
02:40 <MTughan> They're not exactly sporty, but they're dependable.
02:40 <Tidus> i drive a 1992 crown vic that runs a high-13 second quarter at 129mph
02:41 <MTughan> Although the Sentra seems to have a jerky trans...
02:41 <MTughan> lol
02:41 <Tidus> not too shabby for a grandma boat
02:41 <efc> have a 93 olds right now hehe
02:41 <MTughan> My grandmother's got a '93 Cavalier with about 40,000Km on it.
02:41 <MTughan> &math convert 40000 km to miles
02:41 <Romulus> MTughan: 24854.8476895
02:42 <MTughan> In great condition other than some rust.
02:42 <Tidus> and on the opposite end of the spectrum...
02:42 <Tidus> friend of mine has a 91 subaru wagon that blew up last week
02:42 <MTughan> :o
02:42 <Tidus> had 309000 miles on it
02:42 <MTughan> rofl
02:42 <efc> Relatives of mine had what looked like straight off the lot 92 or 93 red cavalier convertible
02:42 <efc> It was like a time warp
02:43 <MTughan> We didn't have that much on our old van, and we drove it across Canada, twice!
02:43 <MTughan> I think we had about 250,000Km on it...
02:44 <MTughan> Got rid of it last year and got the '06 Caravan. Rad died on the old one. A '93 Caravan.
02:44 <Tidus> i have a near mint condition 89 dodge daytona
02:44 <MTughan> Oh, and the horn was rusted. xD
02:44 <Tidus> with a blown motor
02:44 <MTughan> You should've heard the horn on that thing... Would've annoyed the hell out of you.. :P
02:44 <Tidus> lol shoulda heard the horn on my vic
02:44 <Tidus> it'd go HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooo.............................
02:44 <MTughan> Rusted too?
02:44 <MTughan> Haha!
02:45 <Tidus> ............................>NK
02:45 <MTughan> Ah, old cars are so much fun...
02:45 <Tidus> it'd dip until you let off the button
02:45 <Tidus> then it'd finish so loud you had to plug your ears
02:45 <MTughan> Hey, cool...
02:46 <Tidus> turns out it had a short in it
02:46 <MTughan> Space goes down a web page in FF, Shift-Space goes back up.
02:46 <Tidus> so i unhooked it so i didn't have to keep replacing fuses and wondering why the radio quit working...
02:46 <MTughan> lol
02:46 <Tidus> old cars are fun :)
02:47 <MTughan> Okay, I think I've settled on an ATI graphics card... Now to check out the nVidia chips...
02:47 <efc> I'd like a Mustang II.. one of those would keep me busy
02:47 <Tidus> i want that camaro i seen
02:47 <Tidus> nearly perfect condition, even original paint
02:48 <MTughan> I'll leave you two to your conversation... Gonna pick out a nVidia chip, then I have to go to bed...
02:49 <MTughan> Hmm... Know what a good brand name is for nVidia chips? I've got a bunch of subbrands...
02:49 <efc> If I got a new Mustang I'd probably park it, not use as a daily driver..
02:50 <efc> My last one was an Asus, a long time ago
02:50 <MTughan> Asus, BFG, Evga, Foxconn, Gigabyte, MSI, OCZ, Palit, PNY, XFX, and Zotac.
02:50 <Tidus> i like asus and msi
02:51 <Tidus> my only issue with (pretty much all) camaros is that they are a HEAVY car
02:51 <Tidus> the average sports car that size weighs about 3300lb with a full tank of gas
02:52 <Tidus> the camaro weighs about 4700
02:52 <efc> Hmm yeah
02:52 <efc> Mustang is too heavy too but not by that much
02:52 <Tidus> and that's why i'm embarassed to say this...
02:53 <Tidus> my stepbrother's 1992 chrysler lebaron with the turbo-4 motor...
02:53 <Tidus> flat walked away from a camaro
02:54 <Tidus> kinda interesting isn't it
02:54 <efc> Hmm yeah
02:54 <Tidus> car that is technically classified as a family car since it had 4 doors
02:54 <efc> a 4 cyl better than a camaro..
02:54 <Tidus> walked away from a car that's supposed to be a sports car
02:55 <Tidus> it just simply had a better power to weight ratio
02:55 <Tidus> the camaro he ran against was making about 300hp, 4700 pounds
02:55 <Tidus> his lebaron made about 190 but only weighs 3100
02:55 <efc> Wow
02:55 <efc> What were they putting on it..
02:56 <Tidus> those chrysler 2.5L motors are torquey motors
02:56 <Tidus> once the turbo woke up it was over
02:56 <Tidus> both cars were bone stock
02:57 <MTughan> That's impressive...
02:57 <Tidus> the lebaron's turbo was a getrag unit that put out about 8psi of boost
02:57 <Tidus> could be safely cranked up to about 15
02:57 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007
02:57 <Tank_Master> &more
02:57 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 40.8°F / 4.9°C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 30.05in / 1017.5hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Showers. Snow level lowering to 1000 feet late. Lows around 35. Southwest wind 10 to 15 mph.; Sunday - Showers. Snow level 1000 feet. Snow accumulation up to 1 inch above 1000 feet. Highs in the lower 40s. West wind 10 to 20 mph.; (1 more message)
02:57 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Sunday Night - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers in the evening...then partly cloudy after midnight. Snow level 1000 feet in the evening. Lows around 30. Northwest wind 5 to 15 mph early in the evening then light wind.;
02:57 <MTughan> I thought you said you went to bed, TM.
02:57 <Tidus> and the funnier thing is that the lebaron had taller gears than the camaro
02:58 <Tidus> 3.11 final drive in the lebaron vs 3.73 in the camaro
02:58 <Tank_Master> was wonfering how long the strong winds and rain was gonna last
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03:01 <Tidus> that's ok. i got a video for ya
03:02 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Reliant vs Supra at dragstrip (at www.youtube.com)
03:06 <Tidus> now -that- is one heck of a sleeper
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03:13 <MTughan> Oh, ffs. Connection drops again on a download with 400KB left. >_>
03:14 <Tidus> blech
03:14 <Tidus> wireless dropped
03:15 <MTughan> All this fuss so I can view nVidia's page on how to choose a video card...
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03:37 <sethy> whats the datatype for yes/no ?
03:37 <yoyo[RKN]> bool
03:38 <sethy> thats true/false though
03:38 <sethy> as mysql datatype for yes/no
03:39 <yoyo[RKN]> I would use bool, this is the datatype which has 2 states
03:42 <sethy> i'll just use bool then
03:42 <sethy> just rename the column
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03:48 <sethy> PROBLEM
03:48 <sethy> string is not a mysql datatype :$
03:48 <sethy> use text?
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03:50 <sethy> _o/
03:52 <MTughan> Ugh... Almost 4AM... Gotta go to bed. Night.
03:52 <sethy> night
03:52 <yoyo[RKN]> night MTughan
03:56 <sethy> varchar(100) should do
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05:54 <CoderForANewYear> &weather 45140
05:54 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: Temperature: 27.6°F / -2.4°C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1018.8hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny early this morning...then becoming mostly cloudy. Highs in the lower 40s. East winds around 5 mph... becoming south late.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy in the evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Lows in the upper (1 more message)
05:54 <CoderForANewYear> &more
05:54 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: 20s. Southwest winds around 5 mph.; Monday - Partly sunny. Highs in the upper 40s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph with gusts up to 20 mph.;
05:54 <CoderForANewYear> much colder outside
05:57 <CoderForANewYear> brb breakfast
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06:06 <Lorvija> Hey, any electrician here?
06:07 <yoyo[RKN]> ping
06:08 <Lorvija> you? =)
06:11 <yoyo[RKN]> jep
06:12 <Lorvija> well just trying to calculate some solar power thingies and wondering how to convert ampere hours to kWh?
06:13 <yoyo[RKN]> with #boinc?
06:13 <Lorvija> duh?
06:13 <CoderForANewYear> volts times amps equals watts
06:14 <Lorvija> okay, thanks (:
06:24 <Romulus> Title: Watt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
06:24 <CoderForANewYear> bbiab
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06:55 <HeXiLeD> good morning
06:59 <CoderForANewYear> morning HeXiLeD
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07:06 <CoderForANewYear> re-morning HeXiLeD
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07:37 <PriitM> has anyone got experience with backdoor.rbot.bm? I just found file with my msn address in some laptops virus vault.
07:45 <CoderForANewYear> no experience here, PriitM
07:45 <CoderForANewYear> sounds like you're about to get some
07:45 <PriitM> rather worrying to see such thing in laptop what you're maintaining
07:45 <CoderForANewYear> yup
07:45 <PriitM> i belive i'm quite safe
07:45 <PriitM> i'm on narblinux
07:52 <PriitM> ah yes, not my fault - I just understood the virus
07:52 <PriitM> downloaded, named infected files to msn username and sends it forward to msn contacts
07:56 <CoderForANewYear> that's not good
07:57 * CoderForANewYear turns off MSN chat
08:11 * xcamel_away is back.
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08:11 <xcamel> mornin
08:15 <CoderForANewYear> morning
08:24 <xcamel> looks like a little snow trying to creep your way..
08:28 <wdsmia> mornin all
08:29 <xcamel> 'lo Doug
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08:34 <HeXiLeD> are you around quail ?
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08:40 <quail> HeXiLeD: yep sort of
08:41 <HeXiLeD> its about that tune on the sysinfo script
08:41 <HeXiLeD> if u have time now. if not we can do it later
08:42 <quail> what about the sysinfo script
08:42 <HeXiLeD> well
08:42 <HeXiLeD> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.23-gentoo-r5 | Dual Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz 3211.447 MHz | Bogomips: 12850.91 | Mem: 574/999M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 1041.07G Free: 466.15G | Procs: 184 | Uptime: 1 hr 27 mins 54 secs | Load: 3.57 3.34 2.22 | Screen: unknown | eth4: In: 28.89M Out: 1.72M
08:42 <HeXiLeD> screen is unknown
08:42 <HeXiLeD> is this because i am not using a gui ?
08:43 <quail> maybe
08:43 <HeXiLeD> ok.
08:44 <quail> do you have lspci in gentoo?
08:46 <HeXiLeD> yes
08:46 <Romulus> Title: Nopaste - stdin (at rafb.net)
08:46 <HeXiLeD> the output
08:47 <HeXiLeD> we could display audio info too :P
08:48 * CoderForANewYear looks at the weather radar
08:49 <quail> HeXiLeD: ok looking at the script and you lspci output I can't see why it not displaying your screen
08:50 <CoderForANewYear> snow looks like it's moving northwest; may miss me
08:50 <HeXiLeD> i have no idea either
08:50 <HeXiLeD> no snow here CoderForANewYear
08:50 <CoderForANewYear> hello wdsmia
08:50 <HeXiLeD> 1 degree
08:50 <xcamel> all the sudden they're saying 3-6" for us tonight
08:51 <CoderForANewYear> where are you HeXiLeD
08:51 <CoderForANewYear> eek xcamel
08:51 <HeXiLeD> north
08:51 <wdsmia> &weather 50265
08:51 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 14°F / -10°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.87in / 1011hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Areas of fog in the morning. High around 30. South wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy early in the evening then becoming mostly cloudy. Scattered flurries in the evening...then a chance of snow after midnight. Low around (1 more message)
08:51 <wdsmia> &more
08:51 <Romulus> wdsmia: 20. West wind 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 30 percent.; Monday - Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of snow. High in the mid 20s. Northwest wind 5 to 15 mph. Gusts up to 25 mph in the afternoon.;
08:51 <CoderForANewYear> North Pole?
08:51 <xcamel> HeXiLeD: Ninavut?
08:51 <HeXiLeD> south
08:52 <xcamel> Greenland?
08:52 <HeXiLeD> lol Toronto
08:52 <CoderForANewYear> he he he - I'
08:52 <CoderForANewYear> I'll take a Thompson stance on this
08:52 <xcamel> next to Mike then
08:52 <CoderForANewYear> MTughan
08:52 <xcamel> another Hoser, eh?
08:53 <CoderForANewYear> &weather Toronto
08:53 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: Temperature: 32Â°F / 0Â°C | Humidity: 69% | Pressure: 30.14in / 1021hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 8:00 AM EST; Today - Cloudy with sunny periods. Temperature steady near 0C(32F).; Tonight - Cloudy. 40 percent chance of flurries this evening. Snow beginning later this evening. Amount 5 cm(2.0 in). Low -3C(26F).; Monday - Snow ending (1 more message)
08:53 <quail> &weather ypad
08:53 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 88Â°F / 31Â°C | Humidity: 14% | Pressure: 29.83in / 1010hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 12:00 AM CST; Clear. High:102 ° F. / 39 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:77 ° F. / 25 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:105 ° F. / 41 ° C.; Clear. Low:68 ° F. / 20 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. High:84 ° F. / 29 ° C.; Clear. Low:59 ° F. / 15 ° C.;
08:53 <CoderForANewYear> &more
08:53 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: early in the morning then cloudy. 70 percent chance of snow in the evening. High 0C(32F).;
08:54 <HeXiLeD> is that getting it from theweathernetwork.com ?
08:54 <quail> it nice barmie 31C at midnight here
08:54 <xcamel> Hiya Q
08:54 <CoderForANewYear> 30 here ATM quail
08:54 <HeXiLeD> C or F? CoderForANewYear
08:54 <CoderForANewYear> F, of course
08:54 <xcamel> &math convert 31 C to F
08:54 <Romulus> xcamel: 87.8
08:54 <quail> hiya Jay, Don, Doug
08:55 <CoderForANewYear> morning quail
08:55 <wdsmia> monin quail
08:55 <CoderForANewYear> how you feeling lately, Dale?
08:55 <xcamel> recovering from the climocleptosemia?
08:56 <HeXiLeD> anyone using ubuntu here? i m trying to burn an iso using growisosfs the same way i do it with gentoo and it doesnt accept the cmd line
08:57 <xcamel> they should be the same
08:57 <quail> HeXiLeD: I use ubuntu but I us gnomebaker or cdrecord
08:57 <quail> cdrecord is command like
08:57 <quail> line
08:57 <HeXiLeD> humm ... but for cd.
08:58 <xcamel> wodim in the new one...
08:58 <xcamel> er is the new one...
08:58 <quail> CoderForANewYear: yep I feeling lot better compared to earlier this week
08:58 <xcamel> Q.. what did you catch?
08:58 <HeXiLeD> by the way boinc is not freezing the box anyone. ( still the old install ) i think it was an X issue
08:59 <quail> xcamel: what does this mean >>> climocleptosemia?
08:59 <xcamel> it's a joke...
08:59 <quail> ok
08:59 <CoderForANewYear> I think quail suffers from southernhemispherianitis
08:59 <HeXiLeD> np: ''
09:00 * HeXiLeD no tags :P
09:00 <xcamel> climocleptosemia: "A disease that to get where you face looks so much like your butt that your bowels don't know which way to move..."
09:00 <quail> xcamel: I had a stroke xmas eve
09:00 <xcamel> geeez....
09:00 <HeXiLeD> what an xmas gift ..
09:00 <xcamel> how did I miss that..
09:01 <quail> xcamel: I would have liked to have missed
09:01 <xcamel> damn glad you're feeling better...
09:02 <quail> I see the doctor this week for test resaults
09:02 <CoderForANewYear> you went to the hospital at around midnight, right?
09:03 <quail> by what I can remember
09:03 <CoderForANewYear> seemed to me, at least
09:04 * CoderForANewYear works on the Code to interface his rules engine to his workflow engine
09:04 <quail> yeah it would have been cause I was admitted to hospital at 1248
09:04 <xcamel> clot busters right away save alot of lives nowadays...
09:04 <CoderForANewYear> thought so - some Christmas present
09:05 <quail> yeah, but still one I not wanted
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09:07 <xcamel> $hit happens, but you're still here, so that's a good thing.
09:07 <quail> Bad_At_Home: hey
09:07 <xcamel> 'lo BB
09:08 <quail> xcamel: well it has given me a new out look on life
09:09 <xcamel> yup - like the night I got hit by a drunk at over 80 mph...
09:10 <Bad_At_Home> Morning All
09:10 <quail> xcamel: :-(
09:10 <Bad_At_Home> Oh No
09:10 <quail> well I have quit drinking and cut down on the smoking
09:10 <CoderForANewYear> Bad has had a similar life-changing experience
09:11 <Bad_At_Home> yep
09:11 <xcamel> that was 12 years ago, and I still cringe going through that intersection now and then...
09:11 <xcamel> the big laugh/irony about it was I was on the way to an AA meeting...
09:12 <CoderForANewYear> I didn't know that story Jay - glad you made it
09:13 <quail> I drink heaps of bickfords bitter lemon and lime now :-)
09:14 <xcamel> the drunk was killed, but it would have been his 7th DUI
09:14 <CoderForANewYear> Darwin must be served
09:15 <CoderForANewYear> I'll bbiab folks
09:15 <xcamel> he was driving a little chevy cavalier z24, I was driving a full sized GMC Jimmy - and it was totaled.
09:16 <quail> oh
09:16 <xcamel> nearly 400' from the point of impact to where the jimmy stopped - in the trees...
09:16 <Bad_At_Home> thats a very tough 4X4
09:16 <xcamel> I keep a picture of it to remind me...
09:19 <xcamel> and it flipped twice... "dukes of hazard" style..
09:20 <quail> not good
09:22 <xcamel> there is an interesting story attached
09:22 <quail> on a happier note, what have people got planned for new years eve
09:23 <xcamel> about 6 months later I got a letter about a "hearing" regarding the accident
09:23 * quail has nothing planned besides stay at home and put his feet up
09:23 <xcamel> NYS law - all "fatal accidents" - I was scared Shitless...
09:23 <wdsmia> asks xcamel to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.
09:23 <xcamel> oops..
09:24 <xcamel> So I went and was interviewed by an "administrative law judge"
09:24 <xcamel> he asked all kinds of questions - and didn't seem to be vary nice about it.
09:25 <quail> yeah
09:25 <xcamel> at the end of the interview which was recordrd, he turned off the recorder and said "OK... Stand up."
09:25 <xcamel> then he reached out and shook my hand
09:26 <quail> oh :-)
09:27 <xcamel> He proceeded to say "In 20 years of doing this, I was the first victim of a fatal DDA that took out the drunk, and not the innocent driver"
09:27 <xcamel> he smiled, and said "have a nice life..."
09:28 <xcamel> and that was the end of that.
09:28 <quail> did you get a good pay out ?
09:28 <xcamel> no.
09:29 <quail> did you get any pay out?
09:29 <xcamel> TG the drunk was driving his mother's car, and not his own Ford F-250, as I found out afterwords..
09:29 <xcamel> all I got was the pro-rated value of the jimmy. :-(
09:30 <xcamel> I should have sued, but I just wanted to get past it all...
09:30 <quail> not a good trott there
09:31 <quail> police out side sound like they chasing someone
09:33 <xcamel> another funny bit.. because I had walked over to the house next to the intersection (who was a friend)
09:34 <xcamel> the responding officer wanted to charge me with 'leaving the scene" - the seargent straightened him out pretty quick
09:35 <quail> hehe
09:36 <xcamel> I had kind of a nasty cut on the forehead, and my friend gave me an old towel to wrap around my head, and I sat on his front porch till the cops arrived...
09:36 <quail> :-)
09:36 <xcamel> I did not want to see what was going on with the other car...
09:37 <xcamel> (there wasn't a whole lot left of it)
09:37 <quail> I don't blame you there
09:42 * quail is watching 'Daylight'
09:45 <xcamel> haven't seen it
09:47 <quail> it a good movie
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10:04 <xcamel> yea! lm_sensors 3.0 installed
10:05 <xcamel> wonder if fancontrol still works...
10:05 <xcamel> nope.. needs re-config
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10:13 <quail> xcamel: If you are using a custom configuration file, you'll need to convert it to the new format using the included sensors-conf-convert script.
10:14 <CoderForANewYear> off to hardware store to get some more stuff to put up the weather station - bbl
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10:55 <ChristianB> Hi boys
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11:26 <quail> back
11:26 <Tank_Master> wb
11:27 <quail> thx
11:35 <atoponce> hmmm
11:35 <atoponce> i contributed to seti long before it became part of boinc. anyway to find my account?
11:37 <Tank_Master> if you know your old e-mail, then yes
11:37 <atoponce> i do, but the old email is no longer valid
11:51 <MTughan> Ugh... That's what you flashed me for earlier? Because HeXiLeD and I live in the same city?
11:52 <MTughan> I actually live in the GTA. Toronto and the GTA combined, you have about 8 million people.
11:55 * HeXiLeD rises from the grave ...
11:55 <HeXiLeD> who called :P ?
11:56 <HeXiLeD> there are 3 Toronto's in the world by the way
11:56 <HeXiLeD> 3 london's , at least 2 sidney's and 2 oakville's
11:57 * HeXiLeD gets back to the casket ...
11:58 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007
11:58 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 38.8°F / 3.8°C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 30.21in / 1022.9hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Rain showers mixed with snow or small hail at times. Snow level 1000 feet. Snow accumulation up to 1 inch. Highs around 40. Southwest wind 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers in the evening... then (1 more message)
11:58 <Tank_Master> &more
11:58 <Romulus> Tank_Master: partly cloudy after midnight. Snow level 1000 feet in the evening. Lows around 30. West wind 5 to 15 mph shifting to the southeast 5 to 10 mph after midnight.; Monday - Partly sunny. Areas of fog in the morning. Highs around 40. Southeast wind 5 to 15 mph.;
12:28 * CoderForANewYear returns from lunch
12:29 <CoderForANewYear> hi
12:34 * xcamel returns from grooming dogsled trails
12:34 <xcamel> and is very hungry
12:37 <quail> hi and wb :-)
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13:17 <xcamel> tummy full now
13:17 <xcamel> more goulash
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13:35 <xcamel> 'lo PoV
13:35 <PovAddict> had tiny power outage
13:36 <xcamel> ah..
13:36 <PovAddict> and my sister was using the computer
13:36 <PovAddict> I was just checking what I lost
13:37 <BadBarbarian> mmmm Goulash
13:37 <BadBarbarian> polish style ?
13:38 <xcamel> mostly
13:45 <PovAddict> I need an UPS with at least 1 minute...
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13:45 <E-30> hey
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13:53 <xcamel> hey... it's the married guy...
13:58 <E-30> yea so what
13:58 <E-30> i got up today at least
13:58 <xcamel> just picking...
13:59 <E-30> i know
13:59 <E-30> they are still sleeping now
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14:12 * d00m1001 sighs emotionally.
14:17 <E-30> so how is everyone doing
14:17 <efc> moo
14:20 <E-30> moo back
14:22 <E-30> )-:
14:22 * efc resigns to buy a car
14:23 <d00m1001> Eww
14:23 <d00m1001> resign
14:26 <E-30> wow
14:38 * CoderForANewYear waves to E-30
14:38 <CoderForANewYear> just passing through - back to chores and football
14:39 <PovAddict> hey
14:41 <efc> 31st isn't a bank holiday, is it?
14:44 <efc> doesn't appear to be, not a fed holiday
14:45 <xcamel> most places close at noon tomorrom
14:46 <xcamel> most places close at noon tomorrow even
14:46 <xcamel> 'duh'
14:48 <efc> For some reason one bank won't move money tommorrow, guess they don't think its a full work day or something
14:48 <efc> The other one will move it tommorrow but they like to sit on your transfer for 3 days so its effectively no better
14:50 <efc> Always easier to put your money in than get it out
15:08 <efc> Interesting, my credit card company refuses NOT to send me $10k
15:09 <BiteAbleKat> watching gullivers travels
15:09 <BiteAbleKat> on monday there will start 48 hours of the twilight zone on scifi
15:09 <efc> I saw that on, BAK, went to some cross dressing show with Duchovney instead hehe
15:10 <BiteAbleKat> heh
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15:15 <BadBarbarian> Howdy BAK
15:23 <E-30> how are you doing
15:26 <BiteAbleKat> hiya badbarbarian
15:26 <BiteAbleKat> hi e 30
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15:31 <E-30> hey
15:31 <E-30> glad to see you here
15:35 <E-30> so how aqre things going today
15:35 <E-30> are
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15:46 <xcamel> back again... garbage out now.
15:49 <FreeLarry> xcamel: i resent being set out by the curb ;)
15:49 <E-30> cool
15:49 <E-30> i know what you mean
15:51 <xcamel> two cans worth too...
15:52 <E-30> wow not fun there
15:52 <FreeLarry> humm the new little machine not doing to bad http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_host_graph.php?pr=bo&id=3210306
15:52 <E-30> well how are the boxs doing today
15:53 <FreeLarry> i try to keep mine a little less than that xcamel
15:53 <E-30> not bad
15:53 <E-30> my 6600 is still betting you out
15:53 <FreeLarry> lol not oc'ed here either and projects not the best for credit
15:54 <E-30> well all i runis qmc @home
15:55 <E-30> i know
15:55 <E-30> i am not ahade by much though
15:58 <E-30> i am going to go quad soon i hope
15:59 <FreeLarry> lol looks like at least 4 times my machine normal daily currently
15:59 * FreeLarry wonders about attaching to qmc
16:00 <FreeLarry> urgg commute time here so will have to depart
16:00 <FreeLarry> &bye all and HNY
16:00 <Romulus> later ace
16:00 <FreeLarry> even if early
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16:01 <E-30> 2
16:03 <xcamel> hmmm... looks like snow...
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16:47 <xcamel> ooooohhh... pancakes...
16:47 <xcamel> with blueberries...
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16:54 <mweltin> PovAddict ?
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17:02 <briareus> hi all
17:02 <briareus> anyone else running lhc?
17:02 <briareus> I notice that it will couch up some crunchables every so often, then nothing for ages. Is this others' experience with lhc@home
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17:03 * briareus flashes some ridiculous gang signs to fellow TFFE'rs
17:04 <xcamel> well well..
17:04 * efc can't remember his team and flashes an ambiguous sign back
17:04 <xcamel> lhc is in "maybe" mode
17:05 <briareus> hehe
17:05 <xcamel> maybe you get a couple, maybe you dont.
17:05 <briareus> yeah, it seems so. I've scaled back my dedication to it, cycles wise, but I think it doesnt matter because if there is no lhc wu it will just I think move on to another project, i never seem to have crunch downtime so I assume that's the function
17:07 <xcamel> basically, yup.
17:07 <xcamel> I does 'um when I gets um...
17:08 <xcamel> wow - some areas close by could get 8-10", then another storm for new years day...
17:08 <xcamel> somebody needs to develop a 'boincweather' broject..
17:09 <xcamel> er project even..
17:10 <efc> 2 week deadlines kinda stink on that one
17:10 <briareus> how about boincporn or boincrain or boincCO2
17:13 <xcamel> not going there..
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17:21 <JohnMahowald> climateprediction.net = boincweather
17:21 <xcamel> naaah... they're not even close.
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17:22 <xcamel> 5 years and unable to prove anything about anthropomorphic global warming - other than it probably doesn't exist..
17:23 <JohnMahowald> Science can't prove anything
17:23 <xcamel> and 'consensus' isn't science.
17:23 <JohnMahowald> Theories of varying probability maybe.
17:25 <briareus> xcamel: is that pretty much what climateprediction.net has come up with? And I thought it wasn't running for five years already, really?
17:25 <briareus> I think it's possible we are aiding and abetting what is a natural cyclic process.
17:25 <efc> Conclusion: There wasn't any global warming before, but BOINC has burned so many KWHr that it now exists
17:26 <efc> Farnsworth: No fair! You changed the outcome by measuring it!
17:26 <briareus> but I don't think andything I have seen as far as 'evidence' makes me think we have *caused* it
17:26 <briareus> I think it will likely end up as an ice age, like it has before
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17:48 <xcamel> 7 ice ages have come and gone, and man was barely even around for the last one...
17:48 <BadBarbarian> speaking of iceages
17:48 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86046
17:48 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 45°F / 7.2°C | Humidity: 40% | Pressure: in / hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 8mph / 12.9km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 13 to 21. West winds around 15 mph early in the evening becoming light.; Monday - Mostly sunny. Highs 40 to 46. North winds around 15 mph.; Monday Night - Mostly clear. Lows 10 to 18. Northeast winds around 15 mph.;
17:48 <xcamel> and yes, that's it, although they are lothe to admit it...
18:14 <wdsmia> &weather 50265
18:14 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 27°F / -3°C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 29.75in / 1007hPa | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening then becoming mostly cloudy. Areas of fog after midnight. Visibility one quarter mile or less at times after midnight. Low around 15. Southwest wind near 5 mph.; Monday - Cloudy. Snow likely in the morning...then a chance (1 more message)
18:14 <wdsmia> &more
18:14 <Romulus> wdsmia: of snow in the afternoon. Snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches. High in the mid 20s. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph increasing to 15 to 20 mph in the afternoon. Chance of snow 70 percent.; Monday Night - Bitterly cold. Cloudy with a 20 percent chance of snow. Low 5 to 10 above. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph. Wind chill readings 5 to 10 below.;
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18:18 <wdsmia> send some global warming.... please
18:21 <xcamel> at least it's not all that cold...
18:22 <xcamel> ....yet
18:22 <Tank_Master> its perfitly sunny here
18:23 <xcamel> leftcoaster...
18:23 * wdsmia mutters a rude comment at Tank_Master's sunny day
18:23 <briareus> I think this is all leading to ice age, and while I usually get laughed at out of hand, I think I am on to something.
18:24 <xcamel> an ice age is more likely, but not till after 2012, the next solar maximum.
18:24 <xcamel> Skiing in Mexico City... that would be fun...
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18:31 <briareus> sure, I think a solar maximum is important to an ice age commencement
18:32 <E-30> lol
18:32 <briareus> something's funny?
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18:33 <briareus> [16:23] < briareus> I think this is all leading to ice age, and while I usually get laughed at out of hand, I think I am on to something
18:33 <briareus> see? I told you.
18:33 <briareus> out of hand, laughter. I don't care if anyone agrees with me or not.
18:33 <wdsmia> may contain Nuts :P
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18:36 <xcamel> hmmm... proof Bhutto was shot...
18:37 <briareus> hydrosphere (oceans largely) accumulates heat energy, the resulting energy transfer to lithosphere via transpiration into clouds and storm increases albedo, ultimately resulting in snowfall that in some places won't melt
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18:37 <efc> This issue is probably more complex than the resolving power of IRC
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18:38 <briareus> when the oceans accumulate such an excess of thermal energy that clouds dominate the landmasses, even with a higher albedo the oceans will continue providing precipitation for a long time
18:38 <briareus> your snowpack in some places won't see much sun
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18:39 <Tank_Master> more rain = more interesting times!
18:39 <briareus> so global warming leads to ice age.
18:39 <E-30> yea
18:39 <briareus> in a cyclic phenomenon, saying global warming leads to ice age shouldn't appear contradictory
18:39 <Tank_Master> global warming leads to global dimming, which leads to global cooling
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18:40 <efc> I recommended we set off nukes to decrease albedo but nobody listened.
18:40 <Tank_Master> global dimming is from the increases cloud mass, and so less light reaches the surfice
18:40 <briareus> Tank_Master: that's essentially what I said
18:40 <Tank_Master> yeah
18:40 <Tank_Master> it is ;)
18:40 <briareus> more albedo = cooler lithosphere
18:41 <briareus> but the oceans with their heat sink ability will continue feeding clouds long after the land is cool enough for snow pack
18:41 <Tank_Master> I cant wate
18:41 <briareus> me neither
18:41 <Tank_Master> we dont get enough snow here
18:41 <briareus> I am running my car right now
18:41 <briareus> while I sit here chatting
18:41 <Tank_Master> LOL
18:42 <E-30> cool
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18:56 <xcamel> briareus: more albedo = cooler lithosphere, More libido = Hotter lovelife
18:57 <xcamel> :-)
18:57 <Tank_Master> hehe
18:57 <c0dewarrior> x marks the camel
18:57 <E-30> yea
18:57 <c0dewarrior> evening gents
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18:57 <xcamel> 'lo CW
18:57 <c0dewarrior> how's life
18:57 <E-30> how are you all doing
18:57 <xcamel> getting snowy..
18:57 <c0dewarrior> love snowy
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18:58 <xcamel> back to back storms this time...
18:58 <c0dewarrior> E-30: good good
18:58 <xcamel> tonight, and on newyears..
18:58 <c0dewarrior> hmmmm, time for some snowboarding then!
18:59 <efc> &weather Yakutat
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18:59 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 28°F / -2°C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Today - Snow showers likely. Snow accumulation up to 1 inch. Highs around 29. Southeast wind 15 to 20 mph. Chance of snow 70 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a 50 percent chance of snow showers. Lows around 21. Light winds.; Monday - Partly cloudy. (1 more message)
18:59 <xcamel> kids will be heading out - me.. I just groom the trails...
18:59 <c0dewarrior> &weather cape town, south-africa
18:59 <Romulus> c0dewarrior: Error: Could not find weather information. (This may be a bug. If you think it is, please file a bug report at <http://sourceforge.net/tr acker/?func=add&group_id=58965&atid=489447>.)
18:59 <c0dewarrior> blegh
18:59 <c0dewarrior> &weather capetown, south africa
18:59 <Romulus> c0dewarrior: Error: Could not find weather information. (This may be a bug. If you think it is, please file a bug report at <http://sourceforge.net/tr acker/?func=add&group_id=58965&atid=489447>.)
19:00 <xcamel> use the ICAO code
19:00 <xcamel> &weather CTIA
19:00 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: Could not find weather information. (This may be a bug. If you think it is, please file a bug report at <http://sourceforge.net/tr acker/?func=add&group_id=58965&atid=489447>.)
19:01 <efc> &weather Yakutsk
19:01 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: -40Â°F / -40Â°C | Humidity: 60% | Pressure: 30.33in / 1027hPa | Conditions: Fog | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h | Updated: 8:00 AM YAKT; Scattered Clouds. High:-32 ° F. / -36 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:-36 ° F. / -38 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. High:-27 ° F. / -33 ° C.; Overcast. Low:-31 ° F. / -35 ° C.; Overcast. High:-27 ° F. / -33 ° C.; Overcast. Low:-40 ° F. / -40 ° C.;
19:01 <xcamel> oh.. that's not good..
19:01 <c0dewarrior> it's broken jim
19:01 <c0dewarrior> :-p
19:01 <efc> Now thats what I'm talkin 'bout
19:01 <xcamel> &weather FACT
19:01 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 68Â°F / 20Â°C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 29.86in / 1011hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 1:00 AM SAST; Clear. High:82 ° F. / 28 ° C.; Clear. Low:62 ° F. / 17 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:77 ° F. / 25 ° C.; Clear. Low:60 ° F. / 16 ° C.; Clear. High:77 ° F. / 25 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:59 ° F. / 15 ° C.;
19:01 <xcamel> that's the right one..
19:01 <wdsmia> &weather McMurdo
19:01 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 23Â°F / -5Â°C | Humidity: 70% | Pressure: 29.28in / 991hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 7:00 AM NZDT; Chance of Freezing Rain. High:32 ° F. / 0 ° C.; Chance of Freezing Rain. Low:30 ° F. / -1 ° C.; Overcast. High:31 ° F. / -1 ° C.; Overcast. Low:29 ° F. / -2 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. High:30 ° F. / -1 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:24 ° F. (1 more message)
19:02 <xcamel> summer heatwave there...
19:02 <wdsmia> warmer there than here
19:02 <PriitM> &weather tallinn
19:02 <Romulus> PriitM: Temperature: 39Â°F / 4Â°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 1:50 AM EET; Chance of Rain. High:41 ° F. / 5 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:35 ° F. / 2 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:37 ° F. / 3 ° C.; Overcast. Low:32 ° F. / 0 ° C.; Chance of Snow. High:35 ° F. / 2 ° C.; Chance of Snow. Low:28 ° F. / -2 ° C.;
19:02 <E-30> yea
19:03 <PriitM> &weather tartu
19:03 <Romulus> PriitM: Temperature: 33Â°F / 1Â°C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 30.08in / 1019hPa | Conditions: Mist | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 9mph / 14km/h | Updated: 11:00 PM EET; Chance of Rain. High:35 ° F. / 2 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:30 ° F. / -1 ° C.; Overcast. High:32 ° F. / 0 ° C.; Chance of Snow. Low:28 ° F. / -2 ° C.; Chance of Snow. High:30 ° F. / -1 ° C.; Chance of Snow. Low:28 ° F. / -2 ° C.;
19:03 <efc> &weather Slana
19:03 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: -11.0°F / -23.9°C | Humidity: 45% | Pressure: 27.55in / 932.8hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Light snow with accumulations up to 2 inches. Patchy fog. Highs 5 below to 5 above. Light winds.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of snow in the evening. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows 5 to 15 below. Light winds becoming south 10 (1 more message)
19:03 <PriitM> amazing, it can find even small cities
19:03 <PriitM> &weather võru
19:03 <Romulus> PriitM: Overcast. High:32 ° F. / 0 ° C.; Overcast. Low:28 ° F. / -2 ° C.; Chance of Snow. High:30 ° F. / -1 ° C.; Chance of Snow. Low:26 ° F. / -3 ° C.; Overcast. High:28 ° F. / -2 ° C.; Overcast. Low:22 ° F. / -6 ° C.;
19:03 <efc> Slana is population 110 in alaska
19:03 <PriitM> 14 000 in võru
19:03 <briareus> &weather scottsdale
19:03 <efc> Yakutsk is relatively big considering its a miserable frozen wasteland
19:03 <Romulus> briareus: Temperature: 57.6°F / 14.2°C | Humidity: 29% | Pressure: 29.64in / 1003.6hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows 30 to 40. Light wind.; Monday - Sunny...warmer. Highs 62 to 67. North wind 10 to 20 mph.; Monday Night - Mostly clear. Breezy. Lows 34 to 42. Northeast wind 15 to 25 mph.;
19:04 <E-30> lol
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19:15 <PovAddict> &weather buenos aires
19:15 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 84Â°F / 29Â°C | Humidity: 70% | Pressure: 29.71in / 1006hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h | Updated: 9:00 PM ART; Scattered Clouds. High:95 ° F. / 35 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:78 ° F. / 26 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:91 ° F. / 33 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:78 ° F. / 26 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:87 ° F. / 31 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:80 ° F. (1 more message)
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19:19 <E-30> lol
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19:44 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: ping
20:00 <xcamel> pong
20:01 <xcamel> another massive weathergasm...
20:03 <briareus> cool
20:03 <briareus> I wish I was getting dumped on. I need to move out of this pleasant climate.
20:04 <xcamel> hasn't started yet...
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20:42 <xcamel> lol - snowing for an hour now aloft - still none hitting the ground...
20:43 <xcamel> efc: Rain Saves Atlanta From Drought Record
20:44 <xcamel> I'm sure you hadn't been able to tell...
20:47 <xcamel> anyone know if cosmology is working any better now?
20:53 <Tank_Master> hehe
20:53 <Tank_Master> sorry about that
20:53 <Tank_Master> my team is doing a chunch-a-thon there for the weekend
20:54 <Tank_Master> but last I heard there was work again
20:54 <briareus> cosmology?
20:54 <efc> Ah we got that much? I'd heard we didn't
20:54 <Tank_Master> yep
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21:00 <efc> &weather Lake Minchumina
21:00 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: -6°F / -21°C | Humidity: 55% | Pressure: 29.96in / 1014hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows 10 to 20 below. Light winds.; Monday - Cloudy. Snow developing west of Tanana with less than 1 inch accumulation. Chance of snow from Tanana east. Highs 5 above to 5 below. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.; Monday Night - Mostly cloudy. (1 more message)
21:00 <Tank_Master> &more efc
21:00 <Romulus> Tank_Master: A chance of snow. Lows 5 to 15 below. Northeast winds 5 to 15 mph.;
21:00 <briareus> I noticed some oddities with a couple of the stats pages recently. what's your preferred stats page?
21:01 <Tank_Master> boincstats
21:01 <efc> Its amazing we can get weather on these places.. I don't know if the people in those places are getting weather reports that good
21:02 <Tank_Master> &weather North Pole
21:02 <efc> Even more amazing, I look them up on wikipedia, and somebody has a disagreement about them
21:02 <Tank_Master> hehe
21:02 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: Could not find weather information. (This may be a bug. If you think it is, please file a bug report at <http://sourceforge.net/tr acker/?func=add&group_id=58965&atid=489447>.)
21:03 <efc> &weather faeroe island
21:03 <Romulus> efc: Error: Could not find weather information. (This may be a bug. If you think it is, please file a bug report at <http://sourceforge.net/tr acker/?func=add&group_id=58965&atid=489447>.)
21:03 <Tank_Master> doh!
21:03 <efc> &weather faeroe islands
21:03 <Romulus> efc: Error: Could not find weather information. (This may be a bug. If you think it is, please file a bug report at <http://sourceforge.net/tr acker/?func=add&group_id=58965&atid=489447>.)
21:03 <efc> He's had that one before
21:04 <efc> &weather Jan Mayen
21:04 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 35Â°F / 2Â°C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 29.88in / 1012hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 36mph / 58km/h | Updated: 1:00 AM CET; Overcast. High:32 ° F. / 0 ° C.; Overcast. Low:30 ° F. / -1 ° C.; Rain. High:35 ° F. / 2 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:30 ° F. / -1 ° C.; Overcast. High:37 ° F. / 3 ° C.; Rain. Low:32 ° F. / 0 ° C.;
21:08 <efc> &weather Svalbard
21:08 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 7Â°F / -14Â°C | Humidity: 85% | Pressure: 30.27in / 1025hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 2:50 AM CET; Chance of Snow. High:10 ° F. / -12 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:0 ° F. / -18 ° C.; Overcast. High:32 ° F. / 0 ° C.; Overcast. Low:19 ° F. / -7 ° C.; Chance of Snow. High:35 ° F. / 2 ° C.; Chance of Snow. Low:26 ° F. / -3 ° C.;
21:16 <xcamel> cripes..
21:16 <xcamel> rom is sweating...
21:17 <Tank_Master> ?
21:23 <briareus> romulus the bot
21:23 <briareus> hehe, see?
21:24 <efc> &weather Alert, Canada
21:24 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: -29Â°F / -34Â°C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 30.05in / 1018hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 11:00 PM MST; Partly Cloudy. High:-20 ° F. / -29 ° C.; Overcast. Low:-22 ° F. / -30 ° C.; Overcast. High:-13 ° F. / -25 ° C.; Chance of Snow. Low:-16 ° F. / -27 ° C.; Chance of Snow. High:-3 ° F. / -19 ° C.; Chance of Snow. Low:-6 ° F. / -21 ° C.;
21:24 <efc> A series I call "places you wouldn't want to live"
21:24 <briareus> &weather guam
21:24 <Romulus> briareus: Temperature: 86°F / 30°C | Humidity: 53% | Pressure: 29.80in / 1009hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h ; Today - Partly cloudy with isolated showers. East winds 15 to 20 mph. Highs around 87.; Tonight - Partly cloudy with isolated showers. East winds 10 to 15 mph. Lows around 78.; New Years Day through Wednesday - Partly cloudy with isolated showers. (1 more message)
21:25 <briareus> ...places that might be nicer
21:25 <xcamel> &weather resolute, canada
21:25 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: -31Â°F / -35Â°C | Humidity: 62% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 8:00 PM CST; Tonight - Cloudy periods. 40 percent chance of flurries late this evening. Low -36C(-33F).; Monday - A few clouds. Wind becoming northwest 20 km/h (12 mph) early in the afternoon. High -30C(-22F). Wind chill -47 in the (1 more message)
21:25 <efc> I guess you'd have to be resolute to hang out there
21:25 * wdsmia wonders if this #Boinc or the weather channel
21:25 <efc> Its amazing they have weather reports for places with 15 residents
21:26 <efc> Thats probably the main function of the town.. to keep the weather station going
21:27 <xcamel> &weather Kara, russia
21:27 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 89Â°F / 32Â°C | Humidity: 12% | Pressure: 29.75in / 1008hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 6:00 PM GMT; Clear. High:96 ° F. / 36 ° C.; Clear. Low:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.; Clear. High:91 ° F. / 33 ° C.; Clear. Low:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.; Clear. High:91 ° F. / 33 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:66 ° F. / 19 ° C.;
21:27 <xcamel> hell that aint right..
21:27 <Tank_Master> lol
21:28 <xcamel> &weather Archangelsk
21:28 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: Could not find weather information. (This may be a bug. If you think it is, please file a bug report at <http://sourceforge.net/tr acker/?func=add&group_id=58965&atid=489447>.)
21:29 <xcamel> &weather Archangel Russia
21:29 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: Could not find weather information. (This may be a bug. If you think it is, please file a bug report at <http://sourceforge.net/tr acker/?func=add&group_id=58965&atid=489447>.)
21:29 <MTughan> No, I don't think you can get colder than Alert.
21:29 <MTughan> Believe it or not, but it's an army base. :P
21:29 <xcamel> &weather Arkhangel, Russia
21:30 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: Could not find weather information. (This may be a bug. If you think it is, please file a bug report at <http://sourceforge.net/tr acker/?func=add&group_id=58965&atid=489447>.)
21:30 <xcamel> nope..
21:30 <PovAddict> well, got my timezone right on the computer
21:30 <MTughan> So it's 12:30 now?
21:30 <PovAddict> yesh
21:30 <PovAddict> couldn't figure out how to "fix" it on my dad's mac tho
21:31 <Tank_Master> thats easy
21:31 <MTughan> Uncheck the option that says to use Internet time.
21:31 <PovAddict> problem is, most people will probably "fix" it by changing the clock 1 hour...
21:31 <Tank_Master> install linux or windows
21:31 <PovAddict> stfu TM
21:31 <Tank_Master> ;)
21:31 <MTughan> There's an option to use Internet time from an NNTP server.
21:31 <Tank_Master> hey, at least I have brauden my horizzens
21:31 <MTughan> broaden*
21:31 <PovAddict> MTughan: so? that sets the GMT time
21:31 <MTughan> Shows you how good the Windows spellchecker is...
21:32 <PovAddict> NTP servers don't know or care about timezones
21:32 <MTughan> And it's "horizons".
21:32 <MTughan> Yeah.
21:32 <xcamel> &weather Longyearbyen
21:32 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: Could not find weather information. (This may be a bug. If you think it is, please file a bug report at <http://sourceforge.net/tr acker/?func=add&group_id=58965&atid=489447>.)
21:32 <xcamel> sheesh
21:32 <MTughan> You need country if it's not in US or Canada.
21:32 <PovAddict> lies
21:32 <MTughan> &weather Alert
21:32 <PovAddict> &weather buenos aires
21:32 <efc> There is colder than alert... Yakutsk in winter gets stinking cold
21:32 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: -29Â°F / -34Â°C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 30.05in / 1018hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 11:00 PM MST; Partly Cloudy. High:-20 ° F. / -29 ° C.; Overcast. Low:-22 ° F. / -30 ° C.; Overcast. High:-13 ° F. / -25 ° C.; Chance of Snow. Low:-16 ° F. / -27 ° C.; Chance of Snow. High:-3 ° F. / -19 ° C.; Chance of Snow. Low:-6 ° F. / -21 ° (1 more message)
21:32 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 84Â°F / 29Â°C | Humidity: 55% | Pressure: 29.74in / 1007hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h | Updated: 11:00 PM ART; Scattered Clouds. High:95 ° F. / 35 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:78 ° F. / 26 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:91 ° F. / 33 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:78 ° F. / 26 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:87 ° F. / 31 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:80 ° F. (1 more message)
21:33 <MTughan> Huh...
21:33 <efc> in general thats the coldest one I've found
21:33 <efc> during winter
21:33 <xcamel> &weather Longyearbyen, Svalbard
21:33 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: Could not find weather information. (This may be a bug. If you think it is, please file a bug report at <http://sourceforge.net/tr acker/?func=add&group_id=58965&atid=489447>.)
21:33 <xcamel> &weather Svalbard
21:33 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 7Â°F / -14Â°C | Humidity: 85% | Pressure: 30.27in / 1025hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 2:50 AM CET; Chance of Snow. High:10 ° F. / -12 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:0 ° F. / -18 ° C.; Overcast. High:32 ° F. / 0 ° C.; Overcast. Low:19 ° F. / -7 ° C.; Chance of Snow. High:35 ° F. / 2 ° C.; Chance of Snow. Low:26 ° F. / -3 ° C.;
21:33 <xcamel> close enough
21:33 <MTughan> Guess if it's a big enough city, country's not needed. How big, I don't know.
21:33 <MTughan> Hmm...
21:33 <efc> The nastiest seem to be the deep inland towns
21:34 <MTughan> &weather North Pole
21:34 <Romulus> MTughan: Error: Could not find weather information. (This may be a bug. If you think it is, please file a bug report at <http://sourceforge.net/tr acker/?func=add&group_id=58965&atid=489447>.)
21:34 <efc> If close to water, they don't tend to be as bad
21:34 <MTughan> :(
21:34 <MTughan> Alert's right by the Arctic Ocean.
21:35 <efc> Well if the ocean is frozen it quits helping :p
21:36 <efc> &weather Etah
21:36 <Romulus> efc: Error: Could not find weather information. (This may be a bug. If you think it is, please file a bug report at <http://sourceforge.net/tr acker/?func=add&group_id=58965&atid=489447>.)
21:36 <Tank_Master> &weather earth
21:36 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: Could not find weather information. (This may be a bug. If you think it is, please file a bug report at <http://sourceforge.net/tr acker/?func=add&group_id=58965&atid=489447>.)
21:36 <MTughan> lol
21:36 <xcamel> btw.. google earth is really working in linux now...
21:36 <Tank_Master> good
21:37 <MTughan> Oh, for those who said that AMD was still behind, you can overclock the processor while in Windows.
21:37 <MTughan> And without any other tools.
21:38 <MTughan> I found a review about the Phenom. Long, but it's concise. http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/11/19/the_spider_weaves_its_web/index.html
21:39 <xcamel> I keep going back to those shuttle xpc's - some of them are pretty amazing for the size..
21:42 <wdsmia> &weather 82224
21:42 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 20°F / -6.7°C | Humidity: -999% | Pressure: in / hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a 30 percent chance of snow showers. Windy. Lows around 10 above. West winds 20 to 30 mph with gusts to 40 mph. Wind chill readings 10 below to zero.; Monday - Patchy blowing snow in the morning. Mostly cloudy with a 20 (1 more message)
21:42 <wdsmia> Lost Springs, Wyoming population 1
21:43 <xcamel> Good article, Mike..
21:44 <MTughan> I really like the idea of the OverDrive program.
21:44 <MTughan> So it seems that Intel beats AMD in raw speed, but AMD has more value, more OCing, and more power efficient features.
21:44 <MTughan> Overall, quite appealing...
21:45 <MTughan> However, they will be releasing more models next year, so I'll hold off until then at least.
21:45 <MTughan> Maybe RAM and MB prices will come down in that time.
21:46 <PovAddict> heh, 1 bit/sec bandwidth...
21:46 <Romulus> Title: DCF77 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
21:46 <PovAddict> enough for its usage tho
21:47 <MTughan> Cool...
21:48 <MTughan> That's a massive range...
21:48 <PovAddict> I have a clock that attempts to use that signal
21:48 <PovAddict> (obviously without success)
21:48 <MTughan> lol
21:49 <xcamel> cripes... 42 pages.. bookmarked for later reading...
21:50 <MTughan> Oh, reminds me... Seems I'll have to replace my PSU too. May not have enough wattage and is missing some connectors too.
21:50 <MTughan> Because of a new ATX spec.
21:50 <Tank_Master> you refering to the new 8pin 12v connector?
21:50 <MTughan> Yeah.
21:50 <Tank_Master> it should be backward compattible with the 4pin
21:50 <MTughan> Mine only has the 4pin.
21:51 <MTughan> Really?
21:51 <Tank_Master> yep
21:51 <Tank_Master> just like the 20/24pin connectors
21:51 <MTughan> "Do not forget to connect the 8-pin ATX +12 V power plug; otherwise, the system will not boot."
21:51 <Tank_Master> Ive used the 4 pin on a intel quad w/o peoblems
21:51 <MTughan> Well, it may not have enough wattage anyway. The lowest power model of this series is 330W.
21:52 <Tank_Master> what mobo?
21:52 <MTughan> I'm looking at the M3A32-MVP.
21:52 <MTughan> ASUS, AM2+ socket.
21:52 <xcamel> there is an adapter for that..
21:52 <MTughan> Once again, I may not have enough wattage.
21:53 <xcamel> Hell.. I wouldn't run that at less than 500w
21:53 <Tank_Master> lol
21:53 <MTughan> Yeah. The highest power model of this series is 550W.
21:53 <MTughan> Which is what I'm looking at anyway.
21:53 <xcamel> my quad needs serverspec @ 550w
21:53 <xcamel> ie: supercamel
21:54 <MTughan> This is what I'm looking at: http://www.canadacomputers.com/main.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=011023&cid=PS.808
21:54 <MTughan> brb
21:55 <efc> Did you find any reasonable multi-socket MBs ?
21:55 <xcamel> one of the little shuttle boxes will run either core2 extreme or core2 quad
21:55 <xcamel> phase change/heatpipe cooling
21:56 <xcamel> that site is slow
21:56 <MTughan> efc: Not where I was looking. I'm sure there are some, but nothing that I found.
21:57 <xcamel> trupower are pretty good..
21:57 <MTughan> xcamel: Yeah, that's what I like about the mobos I found. Both have heatpipes, and I can get better fans.
21:57 <MTughan> You mean Canada Computers' site?
21:57 <MTughan> I have noticed they've been slow for the past day or so.
21:57 <xcamel> yup
21:58 <MTughan> The Antec's seem good. That's what I have now, no problems at all.
21:58 <xcamel> well... off with me... gots to go in to work tomorrow...
21:58 * xcamel is away: Gone away for now.
21:58 *** xcamel is now known as xcamel_away
21:58 <MTughan> Oh, and about the heat issue too... My case comes with 4 fans. :P
21:58 <MTughan> cya
21:59 <Tank_Master> gn xcamel
22:09 <MTughan> Here's some features of OverDrive... http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=10427&page=14
22:13 <Tank_Master> Sadly, Intel's SSE4.1 and AMD's SSE4a are incompatible with one another - a fact that may soon cause problems for programmers and users alike.
22:13 <Tank_Master> that bytes
22:15 <MTughan> The page after the one I posted has some value comparisons. They compare three areas, and the dual-core is better in the first two. When it comes to multitasking though, the quads easily beat out the dual-core.
22:15 <MTughan> Guess where BOINC falls?
22:15 <Tank_Master> dual?
22:15 <Tank_Master> ;)
22:16 <MTughan> lol
22:16 <MTughan> Okay, so while the Phenom's can overclock well, seems the Core 2 Quad can OC "like a bat out of hell."
22:17 <Tank_Master> Since the Hypertransport protocol is downward compatible, users will be able to plug the Phenom into older AM2 socket boards as well as the new AM2+ generation.
22:17 <Tank_Master> this is a good thing ;)
22:18 <MTughan> Oh yeah. Although if I do go for the AMD, I'll be getting an AM2+ board.
22:18 <Tank_Master> would make since
22:18 <Tank_Master> better performance
22:19 <MTughan> "Since" and "sense" are vastly different works there, TM...
22:19 <Tank_Master> but they both take up the same amount of space
22:19 <MTughan> lol
22:19 <MTughan> Technically, "since" actually takes up less space...
22:20 <MTughan> Compare ASCII values. :P
22:20 <Tank_Master> depends on the font used as to if they take the same # of pixle width
22:21 <Tank_Master> and 000010 take up the same amount of binary space as 100001
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22:22 <MTughan> Hehe... Government's dropping tax rate from 6% to 5% on Tues. Will save me about $10 on the upgrade. :P
22:22 <Tank_Master> sheesh
22:22 <MTughan> Now if only the provincial government could do the same... We currently pay 8% to them.
22:23 <PovAddict> taxes ftl
22:23 <MTughan> Wish we were like Alberta... The pay no taxes on retail purchases to the provincial government. That accounts for about $70...
22:24 <MTughan> &math calc 900 * 0.05
22:24 <Romulus> MTughan: 45
22:24 <MTughan> &math calc 900 * 0.13
22:24 <Romulus> MTughan: 117
22:24 <MTughan> That just sucks.
22:25 <PovAddict> hey
22:25 <PovAddict> our VAT is 21%
22:25 <PovAddict> beat that
22:25 <MTughan> Ouch.
22:26 <PovAddict> we don't notice because almost all prices have VAT included
22:26 <MTughan> That's my pricing sheet.
22:27 <PovAddict> comparing the two offers I was getting for my computer (Intel vs AMD), it was a lot cheaper to go AMD
22:28 <MTughan> Yeah, prices don't include any taxes here. The only thing that does is gas, aka petrol.
22:28 <MTughan> I'm cheaper by only about $10-20.
22:28 <MTughan> $20 for the AMD chip, and about $5 more for the MB. Otherwise, same parts.
22:29 <MTughan> Sorry, $20 less for the AMD...
22:29 <quail> afternoon :-)
22:29 <MTughan> 'lo quail
22:30 <MTughan> Ah, this is cool... A comparison of the Phenom 9900 against a similar Intel...
22:31 <MTughan> 2.6GHz.
22:31 <Romulus> Title: Nopaste - No description (at rafb.net)
22:32 <PovAddict> I got the AMD, except with 2GB RAM and the AMD 4200 (and I think those prices weren't counting the surround speakers, video capture card, and maybe something else)
22:34 <PovAddict> omg
22:34 <PovAddict> I opened your stylesheet's internal files
22:34 <MTughan> Okay, so my computer will be slightly more capable than yours.
22:34 <PovAddict> content.xml has a dozen or two namespaces defined
22:35 <MTughan> Mostly because of the quad-core processor and DDR2 1066 RAM.
22:35 <MTughan> I don't know how nVidia GPUs compare to ATI GPUs.
22:35 <MTughan> Looking at the Radeon HD2600.
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22:36 <PovAddict> oh was GPU there?
22:36 <PovAddict> ok ignore that too then
22:36 <MTughan> In the spreadsheet or your paste?
22:36 <PovAddict> I got a GeForce 6800 GT
22:36 <Tank_Master> mine is a GeForce 8600 ultra ;)
22:37 <PovAddict> 8600*
22:37 <Tank_Master> 68*
22:37 <PovAddict> lol we both got em swapped
22:37 <Tank_Master> rofl, we both screw up
22:37 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Someone - post number 839642 (at pastebin.ca)
22:37 <MTughan> Wait... TM got a GeForce 6800 Ultra, and Pov got the 8600 GT?
22:37 <MTughan> Stupid connection keeps dropping...
22:38 <MTughan> lol
22:38 <PovAddict> styles.xml has a similar insane amount of namespaces
22:40 <Tank_Master> yes, MT, your correct about the vid cards
22:40 <PovAddict> you're*
22:41 <Tank_Master> this is a chat room, its the prefered lingo here
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22:43 <MTughan> Sorry, what was that about?
22:43 <PovAddict> wut
22:43 <MTughan> Had a Windows sharing issue.
22:44 <PovAddict> windows no shares
22:44 <MTughan> lol
22:44 <PovAddict> selfish
22:57 <MTughan> Looks like I'm leaning more to the Intel side at this point.
22:58 <MTughan> Whether that stays the same in the new year with both new Penryn Intel chips and faster Phenom chips...
22:58 <MTughan> That's up in the air.
22:58 <Tank_Master> yeah
22:58 <Tank_Master> I will agree with that
22:58 <Tank_Master> but in Q3, things on the intel side will change drasticly
22:58 <MTughan> Although AMD does have a much stronger argument for it.
22:58 <MTughan> Than before, I mean.
22:59 <MTughan> lol
22:59 <MTughan> Saw that one...
22:59 <MTughan> Tank_Master: What's happening in Q3 with Intel?
22:59 <PovAddict> looool
22:59 <PovAddict> glass table
22:59 <MTughan> And I assume you mean Q3 2007.
22:59 <MTughan> 2008*
22:59 <PovAddict> that's great
23:00 <Tank_Master> no, Q3 2008
23:00 <Tank_Master> next year
23:00 <Tank_Master> New chip will be out
23:00 <MTughan> Yeah, damning isn't how one digit can be off like that...
23:00 <Tank_Master> with intergrated mem controler AND video
23:00 <MTughan> Ew.
23:00 <Tank_Master> tri-channle DDR3 support for the high end
23:00 <MTughan> Integrated video? No thanks...
23:01 <Tank_Master> the intergrated vid will be for the laptop and extreamly low end desktops
23:01 <Tank_Master> the chip with tri-channle DDR3 wont have vid on it
23:03 <PovAddict> zomg http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/wuterml0n.jpg
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