IRC logs of #boinc for Tuesday, 2008-01-01

00:02 * Rookie_69 realizes beer aren't working as pain killer.

00:04 * Rookie_69 needs some Perk-us-up

00:05 <efc> Happy New Years!

00:05 <Rookie_69> Moo!

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00:05 <MTughan> &hny

00:05 <Romulus> MTughan: Error: You need to have PySQLite installed to use this plugin.  Download it at <>


00:05 <MTughan> &part

00:05 <Romulus> MTughan: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.

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00:05 <MTughan> lol

00:06 <MTughan> &alias add hny echo HAPPY NEW YEAR'S!

00:06 <Romulus> MTughan: The operation succeeded.

00:06 <MTughan> &hny

00:06 <Romulus> HAPPY NEW YEAR'S!

00:07 <efc> &hny

00:07 <Romulus> HAPPY NEW YEAR'S!

00:07 <MTughan> Once a year use, but what the heck!

00:08 * Rookie_69 doesn't think he can last through another time zone.

00:08 <wdsmia> new years... Bah Humbug

00:11 <Rookie_69> Pfft.

00:11 <Tank_Master>

00:11 <Romulus> <> (at

00:12 <efc> All the non-knocked-up young stars are celebrating

00:12 <Rookie_69> She is?

00:15 <efc> I saw her first

00:17 <Rookie_69> OK... I'll see you at the paternity suit.

00:17 <efc> sad thing is, James Brown will STILL win and he's been dead a year

00:17 <Rookie_69> I didn't do it!

00:25 * Rookie_69 has been asleep for ten minutes now.

00:25 * Rookie_69 go bye bye.

00:25 <MTughan> Bye.

00:25 * Tank_Master wonders how someone can be psoting while asleep

00:25 <Rookie_69> HNY 2 u all.

00:26 <Tank_Master> have a great year, Rookie!

00:26 <Rookie_69> Spasnswake me up.

00:26 <Rookie_69> ...

00:26 <Rookie_69> Spasms woke me up...

00:26 <Rookie_69> Next year!

00:27 <Rookie_69> ... or is it this year?

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00:28 <MTughan> &hny all

00:28 <Romulus> HAPPY NEW YEAR'S!

00:44 <zombie67> 100,000 @ BURP and Project Neuron over the past week

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00:48 <FreeLarry> Hacky Bue Beer

00:48 * FreeLarry Hic Hic

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00:52 <Tank_Master> the silly wabbit is here!

00:52 <Wabbit98> where?

00:53 <Tank_Master> hehe

00:53 <Wabbit98> I swaer office I am completely and utterly sane

00:53 <Wabbit98> officer

00:53 <Romulus> indeliably etched in my gmail account as to if they pan out

00:54 <MTughan> Wabbit98: Not many people in this channel are sane...

00:54 <MTughan> Not many people on IRC as a whole are sane...

00:54 <Wabbit98> sanity is overrated and boring

00:54 <Tank_Master> true dat

00:55 <Wabbit98> if I was sane I might as well be a business major

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01:15 <FreeLarry> business is overated -- more beeeerrrrrrrr

01:15 <Romulus> you're going to hit the sack now

01:16 * FreeLarry now where is the nearest morgue - got to find a nice cot

01:16 <FreeLarry> thank you rommie for the reminder

01:16 <Wabbit98> I have a fever and the only prescription is more cow bell

01:19 <FreeLarry> doctor Fudd will be right over Wabbit98

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01:19 <Tank_Master> wb MT

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01:20 <Wabbit98> goodbye MT

01:20 <Tank_Master> hi efc

01:20 <Wabbit98> wait

01:20 <Tank_Master> hehe

01:20 <Wabbit98> two MT's?

01:20 <Wabbit98> zombies

01:20 <Tank_Master> for a sec, yeah

01:21 <Tank_Master> no, zombie left a while ago

01:22 <efc> remoo

01:22 <efc> &hny

01:22 <Romulus> HAPPY NEW YEAR'S!

01:22 <MTughan> That was rather odd...

01:22 <MTughan> No, I was disconnected.

01:22 <MTughan> * Disconnected (Network is unreachable).

01:23 <Tank_Master> doh!

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01:49 <Wabbit67> this QMC WU is taking awhile

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01:55 <Tank_Master> all QMC WUs take a while

01:57 <Wabbit67> at least they do not seem to error out like some CPDN I have had

01:57 <Tank_Master> lol

01:58 <Wabbit67> Tank which projects have you shrubbed (worked)?

01:59 <Tank_Master> better question

01:59 <Tank_Master> which ones havent I?

01:59 <Wabbit67> hmmm

01:59 <Wabbit67> Cunning Plan?

01:59 <Tank_Master> no, not yet

01:59 <Wabbit67> BOINC Alpha?

01:59 <Tank_Master> yes

01:59 <Wabbit67> Ralph?

01:59 <Tank_Master> yes

01:59 <Wabbit67> LHC Beta?

02:00 <Tank_Master> no, never was able to get an acocunt

02:00 <Wabbit67> ABC Beta?

02:00 <Tank_Master> and thats no longer being used

02:00 <Tank_Master> ABC beta - yes

02:00 <Wabbit67> Satisfaction?

02:00 <Tank_Master> no, dont reconize it

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02:00 <Wabbit67> Milkyway?

02:01 <Tank_Master> yes

02:01 <Wabbit67> RND?

02:01 <Tank_Master> despite the errious WUs

02:01 <Wabbit67> Enigma?

02:01 <Tank_Master> yes, but it didnt work on windows

02:01 <Tank_Master> yes

02:01 <Wabbit67> Sudoku?

02:01 <Tank_Master> yes

02:01 <Wabbit67> NQueens?

02:01 <Tank_Master> yes

02:01 <Wabbit67> you beat me by a few projects

02:02 <Tank_Master>

02:02 <Romulus> <> (at

02:02 <Tank_Master> my team:

02:02 <Romulus> <> (at

02:02 <Wabbit67> I wish I could shrub for BRaTs and Hydrogen

02:02 <Tank_Master> long list ;)

02:03 <Tank_Master> well, neither really have any work

02:03 <Tank_Master> Ive have ALL my comps arrached to brats for months

02:03 <Tank_Master> attached*

02:03 <Tank_Master> and same with hydrogen

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02:04 <Tank_Master> WB Z!

02:04 <zombie67> howdie

02:04 <Tank_Master> one more hr to go!

02:04 <zombie67> TM:  I have installed XP64 on two boxes

02:04 <Wabbit67> less than an hour

02:04 <Tank_Master> sweet

02:04 <Wabbit67> KWSN will rule the BOINC world one day

02:05 * Tank_Master makes not that now 5 or 100 licences are used ;)

02:05 <Tank_Master> of*

02:05 <Tank_Master> hehe

02:05 <Tank_Master> well see ;)

02:05 <Tank_Master> would be nice to have more players at the top

02:05 <Wabbit67> Tank how long have you used BOINC?

02:06 <Tank_Master> over 2 years

02:06 <Tank_Master> I was on SETI clasic starting 01-01-01, did that for a year or so, then went to UD

02:06 <Wabbit67> hmmm

02:06 <Tank_Master> looked at BOINC in its early days, but it only has SETI and Climate on it

02:06 <Wabbit67> how long has BOINC been around is a good question

02:06 <Wabbit67> SETI had issues in the beginning

02:07 <Tank_Master> oh, 3, 4 years?

02:07 * Wabbit67 shrugs

02:07 <Tank_Master> yeah, so I stuck with UD for a while longer

02:07 <Wabbit67> I started using BOINC when it first came out

02:07 <Wabbit67> whenever that was

02:07 <zombie67> I missed the roll out.  I was seti classic for some time, left, and came back after it was all boinc

02:08 <Tank_Master> then I finally came back to BOINC (on my dual P3), there were only 4 or 5 projects

02:08 <Wabbit67> good thing you missed the roll out

02:08 <Wabbit67> it was a mess

02:09 <Tank_Master> I didnt, thats what turned me off of it at first

02:09 <zombie67> I'll be back and forth as I work on a new install

02:09 <Tank_Master> np

02:09 <Romulus> beats me, but that usually takes care of for look to wave number 3 user id.

02:10 <Tank_Master> gaa, I thought they shut rimmie up!

02:10 <MTughan> Probably has to be turned off in a configuration variable, which can only be done by the owner. xcamel?

02:11 <Tank_Master> wb MT

02:11 <MTughan> 'lo TM

02:11 <MTughan> Gonna have a big countdown for your new year's?

02:12 <Wabbit67> get drunk

02:12 <MTughan> lol

02:12 <Wabbit67> or not

02:12 <Wabbit67> then send random emails to Dr. Anderson complaining about the credit system, yet again, or not; since he fixed it after two months of tests

02:13 <MTughan> I say send him random emails about the XML protocol.

02:13 <Wabbit67> I don't understand XML

02:14 <Wabbit67> all I know it is used in exporting stats

02:14 <MTughan> Also used right when using BOINC...

02:14 <MTughan> Although it's rather inefficient.

02:14 <Tank_Master> you know, if the flops and iops were incripted, it just might help with cheeting by modding the xml

02:15 <MTughan> encrypted*

02:15 <Tank_Master> that to

02:15 <MTughan> Tank_Master:

02:15 <Romulus> <> (at

02:17 <Tank_Master> nice

02:18 <Tank_Master> so, wabbit, how meny projects are you in?

02:18 <Wabbit67> I stopped counting after about 20

02:18 <Tank_Master> hehe

02:18 <Tank_Master> same here

02:18 <Wabbit67> hard to keep track

02:19 <Tank_Master> some sits list me at 55 or so

02:19 <Wabbit67> hmmmm

02:19 <zombie67> resizing partition w/ linux install ISO

02:20 <MTughan> zombie67: Did you know that Leopard's Disk Utility can resize partitions?

02:20 <Tank_Master> same with server 2008

02:21 <zombie67> tiger couldn't do that?

02:21 <MTughan> Nope.

02:21 <zombie67> even when booted from the DVD or remote HD?

02:21 <MTughan> Nope.

02:21 <MTughan> Okay, why did I retype "Nope." when it's in the history...

02:21 <zombie67> ah, it was destructive resize

02:22 <MTughan> Yeah.

02:22 <zombie67> good to know.  thanks

02:23 <zombie67> MY is giving me fits with all the stalled d/l's

02:23 <zombie67> MW

02:25 <MTughan> Oh, zombie67: What happens when a Mac won't boot?

02:26 <zombie67> I don't know.  What does happen when a Mac won't boot?

02:26 <MTughan> In the case of mine, needed to replace the motherboard.

02:26 <Tank_Master> they get smacked then tossed

02:26 <zombie67> zap the pram?

02:26 <zombie67> pray to jobs?

02:26 <MTughan> Also needed to replace the DVD writer, sleep light, and keyboard/touchpad, but they weren't related to the boot issues.

02:26 <MTughan> lol

02:26 <Tank_Master> or head back to the store

02:27 <MTughan> I got the extended warranty, so I didn't need to pay for any of it.

02:27 <Tank_Master> nice

02:27 <zombie67> how old was this machine?  Was it the one that you could not boot from the HD?

02:27 <Tank_Master> thats always a good thing

02:27 <zombie67> apple care is sweet

02:27 <Tank_Master> yeah

02:27 <MTughan> It was my Macbook, just over a year old.

02:27 <Tank_Master> few weeks old

02:27 <zombie67> OUCH!

02:27 <Tank_Master> ahh, was it that old?

02:27 <zombie67> lemon!

02:27 <Tank_Master> my bad ;)

02:29 <MTughan> But since they have to replace the motherboard, the CPUs are soldered onto the MB, and I don't think Apple makes Core Duo MBs anymore...

02:29 <MTughan> Get my drift?

02:29 <MTughan> Well, from my speculation, I'm gonna get a "free" upgrade to C2D.

02:30 <zombie67> now booting from install CDE

02:30 <zombie67> CD

02:30 <zombie67> SWEEEEEEET!

02:30 <MTughan> BTW, the 8-core Mac still crunching nicely?

02:30 <zombie67> love that AC!

02:30 <zombie67> oh yeah

02:30 <Tank_Master> hehe

02:30 <Tank_Master> 8core anything crunches nicely

02:30 <MTughan> Go figure... :P

02:30 <efc> 8 core? nice

02:31 <zombie67> doing mostly GA (TPS) and MW

02:31 <Tank_Master> he was gettin 16k RAC off ASP on it

02:31 <zombie67> APS too

02:31 <MTughan> rofl

02:31 <zombie67> =;^)

02:31 <Tank_Master> same thing, this time of night

02:33 <MTughan> Anyway, must be off to bed. 2:30AM here.

02:33 <MTughan> &hny to you all!

02:33 <Romulus> HAPPY NEW YEAR'S!

02:34 <Tank_Master> still have 25 min

02:34 <Tank_Master> !!

02:34 <Tank_Master> gn MT

02:34 <Tank_Master> have a great 2008!

02:34 <Tank_Master> and may ye get an 8core this year!

02:34 <Wabbit67> may there be many new BOINC projects in 2008

02:35 <Tank_Master> gad, I hope not

02:35 <Wabbit67> why not?

02:35 <Tank_Master> I dont have the resoreces to run them all as it is! ;)

02:35 <Wabbit67> I rotate through about 10 projects at a time

02:37 <zombie67> "setup did not find any HD installed on your computer"

02:38 <zombie67> ??

02:38 <Wabbit67> you might need to install a HD on your comp

02:38 <MTughan> Try formatting a drive as EXT3.

02:38 <Wabbit67> just ignore me

02:39 <Wabbit67> no clue what I am talking about

02:39 <zombie67> can't

02:39 <MTughan> Are you installing OS X or Linux?

02:39 <zombie67> I am keeping the 32 bit partition

02:39 <Romulus> anyway, anyone know a site too right?

02:39 <MTughan> &stfu

02:39 <Romulus> MTughan: Error: You need to have PySQLite installed to use this plugin.  Download it at <>

02:39 <zombie67> this is for installing xp64

02:39 <Tank_Master> no, rommie

02:39 <Tank_Master> so stuff it!

02:39 <MTughan> Ah, XP64...

02:39 <MTughan> That's more puzzling.

02:39 <zombie67> TM?

02:40 <zombie67> "setup did not find any HD installed on your computer"

02:40 <MTughan> Rommie markoved.

02:40 <Tank_Master> ?

02:40 <MTughan> Tank_Master: You think so highly of Windows. You solve it.

02:40 <Tank_Master> is it on some sore of RAID controler?

02:40 <MTughan> I'll get my beauty rest.

02:40 <zombie67> still boots from the 32bit partition

02:40 <zombie67> night MT

02:40 <Tank_Master> gn MT

02:41 <Tank_Master> the 32bit may have RAID drivers that arent on the 64bit disk...

02:41 <Tank_Master> what mobo?

02:41 <zombie67> this is an XPS 200

02:42 <zombie67>

02:42 <Romulus> <> (at

02:42 <zombie67> no raid

02:42 <zombie67> very tiny desktop

02:42 <Tank_Master> you can RAID with one disk

02:43 <Tank_Master> intel recommends RAID mode, for it enables different capibilities in the disk controler than can help with performance

02:43 <Tank_Master> even with one disk

02:43 <zombie67> here is the right url:

02:43 <Romulus> <> (at

02:43 <Tank_Master> you can check the BIOS to see if perhaps its in RAID mode or not

02:43 <FreeLarry> like raid0

02:44 <zombie67> I'm not following.  I don't have raid on this box

02:44 <Tank_Master> you may and not know it

02:44 <zombie67> so no raid driver in XP64, should be a non-issue

02:44 <Tank_Master> you dont need 2 or more disks for RAID

02:44 <zombie67> let me boot to bios...

02:45 <Tank_Master> check the BIOS to make sure the controler isnt in  RAID or AHCI mode

02:46 <Tank_Master> 13 min remaining

02:47 <Tank_Master> you can also cread a floppy disk to be able to load RAID drivers

02:48 <zombie67> no raid.  AHCI vs ATA?

02:48 <Tank_Master> ATA

02:48 <zombie67> it is set to AHCI

02:48 <Tank_Master> AHCI will need a diskeet to load drivers from

02:48 <zombie67> there is no raid option in the bios

02:48 <Tank_Master> huh

02:48 <Tank_Master> the chipset supports it...

02:48 <Tank_Master> oh well ;)

02:48 <zombie67> so, change it to ata?

02:48 <Tank_Master> yeah, BUT, the 32bit *may* not work

02:49 <zombie67> ok, I can change it back via bios, right?

02:49 <Tank_Master> is there a flopy controller on the mobo?

02:49 <Tank_Master> yes

02:49 <zombie67> dunno

02:49 <zombie67> no floppy in the box

02:49 <zombie67> brb

02:49 <Tank_Master> k

02:49 <Romulus> Yeah i think i'm turning german :S

02:50 <Tank_Master> cus you can go to intel's site and get the files to put on a floppy for windows to load the AHCI drivers

02:50 <Tank_Master> well, german would make more since that you do, rommie

02:51 <Tank_Master> what chipset is in that comp?

02:51 <Tank_Master> also, ther eis a bios upgrade for that system avalible

02:52 <Tank_Master> ahh, 975

02:52 <zombie67> ding!

02:52 <zombie67> ahci -> ata solved the prob

02:53 <zombie67> thanks again!

02:53 <Tank_Master> np

02:53 <Tank_Master> fyi: vista has the ahci drivers on the disk

02:54 <Tank_Master> and Im assuming SP3 will add it to eh 32bit

02:54 <zombie67> not seeing the need for vista

02:54 <Tank_Master> but the 64bit and server 2003 are kinda left out

02:54 <zombie67> both installs so far, the network driver didn't work.

02:55 <zombie67> had to get the driver from intel, then update all the rest on line

02:55 <Tank_Master> not to bad

02:55 <Tank_Master> 4 min remining!

02:55 <zombie67> who told me about

02:56 <Tank_Master> bad

02:56 <Tank_Master> up, some are out there now!

02:56 <Tank_Master> ill bbl ;)

02:57 <zombie67> some what??

02:57 <Tank_Master> pops, bangs

02:57 <zombie67> ah!  have fun!

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03:01 <sethy> happy new year west cost :)

03:02 <Wabbit67> hopefully 2008 is better than 2007

03:02 <zombie67> weeee!

03:02 <sethy> 2008 sounds better than 2007

03:02 <Romulus> less vehicles on road - less chance of snow near watertown, NY

03:02 <Tidus> happy new years everybody

03:03 <efc> &hny

03:03 <Romulus> HAPPY NEW YEAR'S!

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03:20 <Tank_Master> yeah, 2008 will defently be a better year

03:20 <Tidus> yeah... bush will be out of office.

03:20 <Tank_Master> Intel is comming out with an octi-core chips this year ;)

03:20 <Tank_Master> with HT no less!

03:20 <Tank_Master> heh

03:20 <Romulus> Ah! So much information at once...

03:20 <Tank_Master> bush has done lots of good things for us

03:21 <Tidus> Tank_Master: i'm still putting along with an amd64 3500 single core

03:21 <Tank_Master> despite what the demicrats and the media say

03:21 <Tank_Master> hehe, sounds like you need a dual 8core with HT setup this yesr!

03:21 <Tank_Master> 32 threads in one box!

03:22 <Tidus> yeah, i wouldn't know what to do with it

03:22 <Tank_Master> hehe

03:22 <Tank_Master> BOINC will though ;)

03:22 <zombie67> I am VERY interested in the new intel XEONs

03:22 <Tidus> i could use dual core without issue

03:23 <Tank_Master> I have a dual core

03:23 <zombie67> I am very interested in the new HT.  I hear it will be "HT done right this time"

03:23 <Tank_Master> might be getting another one this month (or 2)

03:23 <Tank_Master> yes, thats what I hear to

03:23 <Tidus> first upgrade for my tower will be an amd64 x2 black edition

03:23 <Tank_Master> duno what "done right" meens

03:23 <zombie67> me neither

03:24 <Tidus> i'm still drooling over the 8 core Mac Pro

03:24 <Tank_Master> the last HT helps in overall performance...

03:24 <Tank_Master> MAC as one

03:24 <zombie67> but I think it implies that it will be better than "slightly better than a single core"

03:24 <Tank_Master> crunch3r has the V8 setup now

03:24 <Tank_Master> intel dual quad with 4 PCI-e 16x slots

03:24 <Tidus> i have 3 processors running boinc at the moment

03:24 <zombie67> i heard

03:25 <zombie67> brb

03:25 <Tank_Master> will support 4-way sli from nvidia

03:25 <Tidus> my athlon 64, and my old dual socket-A athlon-mp 2000

03:25 <Tank_Master> I just wish I could upgrade most of my fleet

03:25 <efc> 4 way sli....

03:25 <Tank_Master> 35 of the comps at work are P3s

03:25 <Tidus> my woman won't let me have a crapperload of pcs

03:26 <Tidus> i got the athlon64 under windows and the dual athlon under linux

03:26 <Tank_Master> most woman feel thretaned by the PC

03:26 <Tidus> and my laptop

03:26 <Tidus> she uses my laptop more than i do

03:26 <Tidus> next laptop i'm buying is a macbook

03:27 <Tank_Master> y?

03:27 <Tidus> always wanted a mac

03:27 <Tank_Master> y?

03:27 <Tank_Master> :P

03:27 <Tidus> plus they run windows too

03:27 <Tank_Master> not any more

03:27 <Tidus> yeah they do

03:27 <Tank_Master> apple pulled the bootcamp

03:27 <Tidus> boot camp was integrated into OSX 10.5

03:28 <Tank_Master> you can probably still find it elsewhere though

03:28 <Tank_Master> I saw that you can now instll the MAC OS on a standard PC ;)

03:28 <Tidus> yeah, with a highly hacked dvd

03:28 <Tank_Master> yeah, still ;)

03:29 <Tidus> but apple integrated boot camp into OSX 10.5

03:29 <Tidus> they still run windows

03:29 <Tank_Master> would be neet to see windows, unix and MAX all in the boot window

03:29 <Tank_Master> I read they pulled the bootcamp

03:29 <Tank_Master> huh

03:29 <Tidus>

03:29 <Romulus> <> (at

03:30 <Tank_Master> popular 32-bit releases of Windows XP and Windows Vista

03:30 <Tank_Master> NOT 64BIT??!!??!

03:30 <Tank_Master> man

03:30 <Tank_Master> they are behind the times!

03:30 <Tidus> hey but it works lol

03:31 <Tank_Master> wont get the benifits of 64bit though

03:32 <Tidus> that's true, but from what i've found, 64 bit windows is more of a pain than its worth

03:32 <zombie67> okay!  XP64 running.  next, all the driver installs, and XP updates

03:33 <Tank_Master> theres far few updates for x64 than x32

03:33 <Tank_Master> n congrats!

03:33 <Tidus> i'm looking more at drivers

03:33 <Tank_Master> now, you gonna load up ABC on it?

03:33 <Romulus> dat'll teat dem to met

03:33 <Tidus> there's a couple pieces of hardware that *STILL* don't have xp64 drivers and they're like 3 years old

03:33 <Tank_Master> 64bit is rather supported by drivers now

03:33 <Tank_Master> its just some older preiferals, like printers and scanners, that may not work

03:34 <Tidus> my sb live 5.1ls don't worko

03:34 <zombie67> TM:  using parallels, no need for bootcamp anyway.  run all the OSs all at once!

03:34 <Tidus> and my tv tunre

03:34 <Tidus> tuner *

03:34 <Tidus> hauppauge PVR-150

03:35 <Tank_Master> yes, tv tuner drivers have never been good

03:35 <Tidus> zombie67: lol... but parallels don't run video at full speed.  they have to emulate a rather crappy cirrus logic or S3 ViRGE chipset

03:35 <Tank_Master> you can get a cheep SB audigy car these days

03:35 <zombie67> w00t is SOOOO last year!

03:35 <Tank_Master> my audigy2 xz has 64bit vista drivers

03:36 <Tank_Master> ZS*

03:36 <Tidus> meh, i normally run linux anyway

03:36 <Tidus> xp is only on there for gaming

03:36 <Tank_Master> then go with 64bit linux ;)

03:36 <zombie67> video?  Who needs that for command line?

03:36 <Tank_Master> hehe

03:36 <zombie67> nethack and adventure are all the games that anyone really needs!

03:36 <Tidus> Tank_Master: 64 bit linux actually runs world of warcraft worse than the 32 bit version does

03:36 <Tidus> for some odd reason...

03:36 <zombie67> brb

03:36 <Tank_Master> hey, Z, dod you see what info MS has released for winmin?

03:37 <efc> &weather cape simpson

03:37 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: -13F / -25C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 30.44in / 1031hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows 10 to 20 below. Northeast winds 10 to 15 mph.; New Years Day - Decreasing clouds. Areas of blowing snow. Highs 10 to 15 below. Northeast winds increasing to 20 to 25 mph.; Tuesday Night - Mostly cloudy. A chance of snow. Areas (1 more message)

03:37 <Tank_Master> compleat windows7 install with only 25MB of disk space!

03:38 <Tank_Master>

03:38 <Romulus> <> (at

03:39 <zombie67> winmin?

03:40 <zombie67> ah!

03:40 <zombie67> what is the mem footprint?

03:41 <zombie67> wait...."a component of Windows 7, the next desktop version of Windows"

03:41 <zombie67> is that gonna be another 5 years away?

03:41 <Tidus> probably

03:41 <Tank_Master> no, 2009

03:42 <Tidus> they were starting development of windows NT 6 (now vista) back in the NT4 days

03:42 <Tank_Master> windows 7 is the next OS to come out

03:42 <zombie67> TM:  sorry, with the track record....

03:42 <zombie67> So!  Back to BOINC....

03:42 <Tank_Master> ahh, vista was delayed because od the JOD

03:42 <Tidus> windows 2000 pro in 1999, xp in 2002, vista in 07...

03:42 <zombie67> I have my 64 bit machines running the following:

03:42 <zombie67> abc

03:42 <Tank_Master> they dditn want to come out with an OS in  the middle of the trials

03:43 <Tank_Master> good

03:43 <zombie67> PG (only the 2x sieve apps)

03:43 <Tank_Master> ABC will be happy on 64bit

03:43 <zombie67> TSP (crunch3r says 64 bit is faster)

03:43 <Tank_Master> and win 64bit runs faster than the linux app for TSP

03:43 <Tank_Master> lol

03:43 <zombie67> APS (when it has work)

03:43 <zombie67> what am I missing?

03:44 <Tank_Master> RS will have a sieveing app for win64bit soon

03:44 <Romulus> Windows is one of my anti-virus handling of usch things

03:44 <Tank_Master> ABC beta?

03:44 <zombie67> pssch

03:44 <Tank_Master> lol

03:45 <zombie67> the new guys don't even understand they had to wait for all the results to be returned

03:45 <zombie67> they had to be TOLD

03:45 <zombie67> not looking good!

03:45 <zombie67> 32 updates the first round

03:46 <Tank_Master> better than the 102 updates for the 32bit

03:46 <Tank_Master> cant wate for SP3 to be finized

03:46 <zombie67> =;^)

03:47 <Tank_Master> to bad there wont be a SP3 for server 2003

03:47 <zombie67> anything other than patches in SP3?

03:48 <zombie67> good lord, the .NET updates take FOREVER to install

03:49 <Tank_Master> yes they do

03:49 <Tank_Master> BOINC

03:49 <Tank_Master> cant forget to install BOINC

03:49 <Tidus> one of the good things about xp sp3 is directX 9.0L

03:49 <Tank_Master> L?

03:49 <Tidus> allows DX10 games to run under xp

03:49 <Tidus> instead of requiring vista

03:49 <Tank_Master> ahh

03:49 <Tank_Master> they officially doing that now?

03:50 <Tidus> yeah

03:50 <Tank_Master> huh

03:50 <zombie67> so...more vista bits for XP?

03:50 <Tidus> basically

03:50 <Tank_Master> what about server 2003 and the 64bit XP?

03:50 <zombie67> even less reason to upgrade

03:50 <Tidus> don't know

03:50 <Tidus> personally, i don't mind vista

03:50 <Tidus> except for its ram hogging ability

03:50 <Tank_Master> the firewall will be upgraded in SP3 to that same kind as vista has

03:51 <Tidus> with only 512mb ram (the athlon64 :( ) vista flat CRAWLS

03:51 <Tidus> i got all kinds of DDR memory laying around

03:51 <zombie67> XP = 1gb min.  vista = 2gb min.

03:51 <Tidus> but NO ... my A64 is socket AM2 ... requires DDR2

03:51 <Tank_Master>

03:51 <Romulus> Title: Paul Thurrott's SuperSite for Windows: Windows XP Service Pack 3 FAQ (at

03:52 <Tidus> zombie67: xp runs fine for me in 512

03:52 <Tank_Master> no mention of the DX in there

03:52 <Tidus> except for some games

03:52 <Tidus> vista works well for me on a gig

03:52 <Tank_Master> sever 2008 runs fine on 1GB

03:52 <zombie67> sure, 512 with XP works great, unless you run any programms

03:52 <Tank_Master> even with BOINC on it

03:52 <Tank_Master> lol Z

03:52 <Tank_Master> thats all my P3s can support!

03:53 <zombie67> that is why I ran my PII and PIII on linux

03:53 <Tidus> OOH ... cd keyless installs with xp sp3

03:53 <Tidus> hehe

03:53 <Tank_Master> yeah

03:53 * Tidus contemplates hacking the crap out of the activation bulls***

03:53 <Tank_Master> w/o a key, you have 30 days to put one in

03:54 <Tank_Master> btw

03:54 <Tank_Master> the activation will change for SP1 in vista

03:54 <Tidus> when i was on vista... i went like 80 days without activating

03:54 <Tank_Master> the will no longer reduse and disable things

03:54 <zombie67> any other projects that get anything more than ~5% boost from xp64?

03:55 <Tank_Master> all that it will do it have a blank background and a pop-up every hr to activate

03:55 * Tidus hopes timerstop.sys still works...

03:55 <Tank_Master> primgrid really dosent get much

03:55 <Tank_Master> TSP is to new to tell

03:55 <Tank_Master> ABS and APS are your best bets

03:56 <Tank_Master> ABC*

03:56 <zombie67> according to tytis (sp?), the sieve apps are faster with 64bit

03:56 <Tank_Master> yester, yes

03:56 <Tank_Master> bit not 2x

03:56 <Tank_Master> like with ABC

03:56 <zombie67> sure

03:56 <Romulus> as we learned later

03:56 <Tank_Master> seemed like it was only 15% or so

03:57 <zombie67> my current strategy:

03:57 <Tank_Master> RS's sieveing app decreased the time by around 5/12th

03:57 <zombie67> take all my slow machines and move them to xp64, and run only apps that take advantage of them

03:58 <Tank_Master> so not quite in 1.2, but more than 1.3

03:58 <zombie67> leave my faster machines running 32 bit, and all the rest

03:58 <Tidus> what do you mean by 'slow machine' ?

03:58 <Tank_Master> 1/2* 1/3*

03:58 <zombie67> all my PD and X2s

03:58 <Tank_Master> Pds

03:58 <Tank_Master> he has no single cores left

03:58 <Tidus> crap that's still faster than anything i have

03:58 <Tank_Master> I got his 4 single cores ;)

03:58 <zombie67> truth

03:58 <Tank_Master> 3 P4s and a P3

03:59 <Tidus> got any extra AM2 x2s laying around that someone wants to donate to the cause ?

03:59 <Tank_Master> as to which I am putting to good use

03:59 <Tank_Master> all I ahve is a 3700, which is single core

04:00 <zombie67> ah!  forgot, I still have a PII/linux, and a P M 800mhz

04:00 <zombie67> running xp32

04:00 <Tank_Master> :)

04:01 <Tidus> i have a p3/linux that i stuffed full of hard drivces

04:01 <Tank_Master> with the OSx 10.5, do you need to activate it of anything?

04:01 <zombie67> both laptops, so low power comsumption, but just as good as a fast machine getting chess, pirates, etc

04:01 <Tank_Master> somewhat tempted to run it on my PC

04:01 <Tidus> dunno.  haven't played with 10.5 yet

04:01 <zombie67> no OSX requires activatyion

04:02 <Tank_Master> dang ;)

04:02 <zombie67> activation

04:02 <zombie67> you cant run it on anything but a mac anyways

04:02 <Tank_Master> actually, you can

04:02 <Tank_Master> some people have hacked it to run on PCs

04:02 <zombie67> with major hacks

04:02 <Tank_Master> they werent to major

04:02 <zombie67> not easy

04:02 <Tank_Master> mostly drivers

04:03 <zombie67> brb

04:03 <Tank_Master> k

04:04 <zombie67> back

04:04 <Tidus> i've had 10.4 on my athlon 64

04:05 <zombie67> cool

04:05 <zombie67> to what end?

04:05 <Tidus> it ran ok

04:05 <Tidus> but that hard disk failed.

04:06 <Tank_Master> ouch

04:06 <Tank_Master> some would blame the OS

04:07 <Tank_Master> oh, btw Z

04:07 <Romulus> in fact complain ;)

04:07 <zombie67> yeah?

04:08 <zombie67> only 2 project left to hit 100k

04:08 <Tank_Master> nice

04:08 <zombie67> tsp, MW

04:08 <Tank_Master> have you updated the chipset drivers from intel;s site?

04:09 <zombie67> only the network one so far

04:09 <Tank_Master> you ahev 100k in hydrgen and brats?

04:09 <Tank_Master> ;)

04:09 <zombie67> I mean for the projects where it is possible.

04:09 <Tank_Master> and pirates?

04:09 <zombie67> ditto

04:09 <Tank_Master> and depspid?

04:09 <zombie67> ditto

04:09 <Tank_Master> hehe

04:09 <Tank_Master> BBC

04:09 <zombie67> dead

04:09 <Tank_Master> seasonal?

04:09 <zombie67> 200k+

04:10 <Tank_Master> Nice

04:10 <zombie67> still working off 4 or 5

04:10 <Tank_Master> ralph?

04:10 <zombie67> done

04:10 <Tank_Master> BOINC alpha?

04:10 <zombie67> my goal there is only 100l

04:11 <zombie67> (4 digits)

04:11 <zombie67> still working

04:11 <Tank_Master> 1k

04:11 <zombie67> can't seem to get any work

04:11 <Tank_Master> for BOIN alpha?

04:11 <zombie67> keeps telling me I won't finish in time (!)

04:11 <Tank_Master> I had to mod my xml flie to up the FlOPS

04:12 <Tank_Master> but I didnt have a prob on my P4

04:12 <zombie67> hmmmm

04:12 <Tank_Master> was just the P3s

04:12 <zombie67> I'll try again with faster machines.

04:12 <Tank_Master> not that theres any real work there

04:12 <zombie67> currently have 706

04:12 <Tank_Master> zivis?

04:12 <zombie67> right, why my goal is only 1k

04:12 <zombie67> none yet

04:13 <Tank_Master> I have 47k in BA

04:13 <zombie67> ba

04:13 <zombie67> ?

04:13 <Tank_Master> superlink?

04:13 <zombie67> ah

04:13 <Tank_Master> Boinc Alpha

04:13 <zombie67> 43k SL

04:13 <zombie67> 51k chess

04:13 <Tank_Master> lattice is one I would like to get back to

04:14 <Tank_Master> 58k chess here

04:14 <zombie67> 51 chess, 53 lhc

04:14 <Tank_Master> 181k in predictor

04:14 <zombie67> yea, I really like lattice!

04:14 <Tank_Master> 151k in lhc here

04:14 <zombie67> they support all the platforms

04:14 <Tank_Master> and have lots of work

04:14 <zombie67> 151 LHC!?!

04:14 <Tank_Master> dose WCG run on the MACs?

04:14 <zombie67> ass

04:14 <Tank_Master> hehe

04:15 <zombie67> yep

04:15 <Tank_Master> I started it day one just about

04:15 <zombie67> 118k aps

04:15 <Tank_Master> 44k aps

04:15 <zombie67> 939k WCG

04:15 <Tank_Master> 84k (before the last rounds) for depspid

04:15 <zombie67> 233 BRATS!

04:16 <Tank_Master> 284! ha!

04:16 <Tank_Master> :P

04:16 <zombie67> okay, beat this:  393k PS3GRID!

04:16 <Tank_Master> hehe

04:16 <Tank_Master> if I have some PS3s

04:16 <Tank_Master> had*

04:16 <Tank_Master> same with RND

04:16 <Tank_Master> need linux

04:16 <zombie67> and WEP

04:16 <Tank_Master> yeah

04:17 <zombie67> 100k gerasim

04:17 <Tank_Master> not BOINCStats firenly

04:17 <Tank_Master> so I havent yet ran it

04:17 <zombie67> 192k CPDN

04:17 <Tank_Master> 601k climate

04:17 <zombie67> that is the problem

04:18 <zombie67> new stat sites have all the new ones, BS has all the old ones

04:18 <Tank_Master> 502k for SETI

04:18 <zombie67> 1448k seti

04:18 <Tank_Master> nice

04:18 <zombie67> 1147k rosetta

04:18 <Tank_Master> 661k for ABC

04:18 <Tank_Master> thats my top project

04:18 <zombie67> 510k simap

04:18 <zombie67> ooo!

04:19 <Tank_Master> 636k simap

04:19 <zombie67> 545k NANO!

04:19 <Tank_Master> 661k for ABC aint bad for how new of a project it is

04:19 <Tank_Master> and that I havent had all my comps on it

04:19 <zombie67> impressive

04:19 <zombie67> you are helping me kick your ass there...

04:19 <Tank_Master> hehe

04:20 <Tank_Master> hey, you helped my kick yours... so it all good

04:20 <zombie67> I still have those dual cores

04:20 <zombie67> PDs

04:20 <Tank_Master> good

04:20 <Tank_Master> I lost a P3 today

04:20 <Tank_Master> damn thing gets corrupted after a reboot

04:20 <zombie67> 6k NNSIMU Project

04:20 <zombie67> now dead?

04:21 <Tank_Master> BUT the person who it belongs to is getting a quad system

04:21 <zombie67> this will bite your ass:  7.5k IMP

04:21 <Tank_Master> both NNSIMU and the other one like it died beofre I started running it

04:21 <zombie67> 49k docking

04:21 <Tank_Master> oh!!

04:21 <Tank_Master> you dont know this yet!

04:22 <zombie67> 77k predictor

04:22 <Tank_Master> I got an IMP acocunt!

04:22 <zombie67> sweet!

04:22 <Tank_Master> 179k nano

04:22 <zombie67> did you get some of the xmas run?

04:22 <Tank_Master> no

04:22 <zombie67> I was on vacation and missed it

04:22 <Tank_Master> saw the PM about 1h after it was over

04:22 <zombie67> 96k proteins

04:22 <zombie67> me too

04:23 <Tank_Master> 181 predictor

04:23 <Tank_Master> 36k proteens

04:23 <zombie67> I like docking a lot

04:23 <Tank_Master> 167 docking

04:23 <zombie67> another where they have apps for everyone!

04:23 <Tank_Master> if they every get back pu n running

04:23 <zombie67> done with the first round of d/l & installs

04:24 <zombie67> docking will be back up shortly

04:24 <Tank_Master> 150k BURP

04:24 <Tank_Master> have you passed me yet?

04:24 <zombie67> just broke 100k on BURP and Neuron

04:24 <Tank_Master> man, I havet ram BURP since the summer and I have only lost 2 spots there

04:25 <Tank_Master> nice

04:25 <Tank_Master> I have 41k in Render farm

04:25 <Tank_Master> that one I KNOW you dont have more in

04:26 <zombie67> nope!

04:26 <zombie67>

04:26 <Romulus> <> (at

04:27 <Tank_Master> ??

04:27 <zombie67> find on "zombie67"

04:28 <zombie67> updates done!  Now drivers!

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04:28 <Tank_Master> sweet

04:28 <Tank_Master> still dont get what your showing at burp

04:29 <zombie67> er, just a sec

04:29 <zombie67> The fundraising run has ended - naturally with a great thanks going to Mr.Wizard, mbliny, zombie67, DoctorNow and BarkerJr!

04:29 <zombie67> - Server replacement parts have been ordered, expected delivery during this week.

04:29 <Tank_Master> oh, way up there

04:30 <Tank_Master> I hate how it dosent keep track of the placements as the images load in

04:30 <zombie67> when their server went south recently, I donated fix it

04:30 <Romulus> life is glum ;)

04:30 <zombie67> TM:  your team site has the same probelem

04:30 <Tank_Master> I think most sites do

04:31 <Tank_Master> so what did you donate?

04:31 <zombie67> I like that most BOINC forms don't have that probelm

04:31 <zombie67> cash

04:31 <Tank_Master> ahh

04:31 <Tank_Master> looks like it wnt to good use

04:31 <zombie67> the down time was impeding my 100k goal, dammit!

04:32 <Tank_Master> hehe

04:32 <Tank_Master> its to bad gridfinity never got off the ground

04:33 <zombie67> remind me to thanks BB again

04:33 <Tank_Master> for the driver page?

04:33 <zombie67> is awesome

04:33 <Tank_Master> :)

04:33 <Tank_Master> it @#$%@ up my server 2008 system

04:33 <zombie67> ouch.

04:33 <Tank_Master> almost all the driers I tryed installing I got the blew screen from

04:34 <zombie67> very handy for xp64!

04:34 <Tank_Master> onlt time I had it crash

04:34 <Tank_Master> but its not running at 3.12GHz!

04:35 <Tank_Master> now*

04:35 <zombie67> faster?

04:35 <Tank_Master> was only 3.08

04:35 <Tank_Master> so .04 GHz

04:35 <zombie67> driver changed your clock speed??

04:36 <Tidus> my a64 is supposed to run at 2.2 but i got it set at 2.6 :)

04:36 <zombie67> brb

04:36 <Tank_Master> no, since the comp was down from the crash, I uped the speed

04:37 <Tank_Master> I could probably do more

04:37 <Tank_Master> but that would require a reboot ;)

04:40 <zombie67> back, you upped the clock from within the os?

04:40 <Tank_Master> no

04:40 <Tank_Master> the OS crashed and restarted

04:40 * zombie67 is confused

04:40 <Romulus> well it's a bother this is faster than my cat.

04:40 <Tank_Master> so I went tinto the bios then and uped the speed

04:41 <Tank_Master> since it was down anyway

04:41 <zombie67> ah, I thought you meant that installing the driver gave a faster machine

04:41 <Tank_Master> no

04:41 <Tank_Master> installing the driver crashed my comp

04:42 <zombie67> ah, so while it was down, you improved the speed

04:42 <Tank_Master> ya

04:43 <zombie67> almost done with the driver updates

04:43 <Tank_Master> cool

04:43 <zombie67> lord, this could be a full time job for an admin at a win shop

04:43 <Tank_Master> lol

04:44 <Tank_Master> any what, other OSs dont have updates?

04:44 <zombie67> not like this

04:44 <Tank_Master> then they arent giving the users the full experence

04:44 <zombie67> not all the updates from mutliple sites, multiple reboots...

04:48 <zombie67> downloading BOINC now

04:49 <Tank_Master> I woulda done that first ;)

04:50 <zombie67> not with all the installs (will degrade benchmarks), and reboots

04:51 <zombie67> you and I need to gang up on willy

04:51 <zombie67> you know the three columns you get when click on a project from the resources page?

04:52 <zombie67> you should have the same three columns when clicking on a host!

04:52 <CoderForANewYear> morning and Happy New Year

04:52 <CoderForANewYear> &weather 45140

04:52 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: Temperature: 32.2F / 0.1C | Humidity: 71% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014.1hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 8.0mph / 12.9km/h ; Today - Cloudy with scattered snow showers. Blustery and much colder with highs around 30. West winds 20 to 25 mph. Gusts up to 40 mph early this morning. Chance of snow 50 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with scattered snow showers. (1 more message)

04:52 <CoderForANewYear> &more

04:52 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: Cooler with lows 15 to 20. Northwest winds around 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of snow 50 percent.; Wednesday - Mostly cloudy in the morning...then becoming partly sunny. A 20 percent chance of snow showers. Highs in the lower 20s. Northwest winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph.;

04:53 <CoderForANewYear> breakfast   bbiab

04:53 <Tank_Master> im off to bed

04:53 <Tank_Master> gn

04:53 <CoderForANewYear> gn

04:53 <Tank_Master> I cant believe its 2AM ;)

04:53 <Romulus> it was money to get dinner

04:54 <Tank_Master> rommie.. about those tricks you do...

04:54 <zombie67> gn

04:54 <Tank_Master> tc Z

05:03 <CoderForANewYear> b

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05:29 <CoderForANewYear> bbiab

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06:36 <Drstroker> hi all

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07:32 <CoderForANewYear> &math convert 23 F C

07:32 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: -5.0

07:33 <CoderForANewYear> &math

07:33 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: (math calc <math expression>) -- Returns the value of the evaluated <math expression>. The syntax is Python syntax; the type of arithmetic is floating point. Floating point arithmetic is used in order to prevent a user from being able to crash to the bot with something like '10**10**10**10'. One consequence is that large values such as '10**24' might not be exact.

07:33 <Bad_At_Home> happy 2008 coder

07:33 <CoderForANewYear> Happy 2008 Bad_At_Home

07:33 <Bad_At_Home> &weather 86046

07:33 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Temperature: 17F / -8.3C | Humidity: 16% | Pressure: 30.55in / 1034.4hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny in the morning then becoming partly cloudy. Highs 34 to 42. East winds around 15 mph with local gusts to 25 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening then becoming mostly cloudy. Lows 8 to 16. Light winds.; Wednesday - Not as (1 more message)

07:34 <Bad_At_Home> &more

07:34 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: cool. Mostly cloudy. Highs 45 to 51. Light winds.;

07:37 <quail> MTughan: ping

07:38 <quail> MTughan: you have a Intel Mac? if so what sort of linux do you have to install on it eg x86 ppc etc?

07:39 <CoderForANewYear> HNY quail

07:40 <CoderForANewYear> &seen MTughan

07:40 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: MTughan was last seen in #boinc 4 hours, 59 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <MTughan> I'll get my beauty rest.

07:40 <quail> CoderForANewYear: thanks but that is old news here

07:40 <Bad_At_Home> happy new year Quail

07:40 <CoderForANewYear> old news??

07:41 <quail> yeah in 50 mins time it be the 2nd of Jan

07:41 <CoderForANewYear> You're the 2nd person I've wished HNY since midnight

07:41 <quail> here

07:41 <Bad_At_Home> lol it was yesterday for quail

07:41 <Romulus> today is my new quad cores for DSP

07:41 <quail> CoderForANewYear: HNY to you too mate :-D

07:41 <CoderForANewYear> my - we become jaded fast in 2008

07:41 <quail> Bad_At_Home: HNY to you too

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07:42 <quail> CoderForANewYear: you have to get time warp machine to chat up to us ;-)

07:43 <CoderForANewYear> I went to bed at 9pm

07:43 <CoderForANewYear> up at 4:30am as usual

07:43 <quail> :-)

07:44 <quail> I slepted most of today ;-)

07:44 <quail> only reason I got out of bed is cause it was wet

07:46 <quail> and not I not piss the bed if that what you thinking

07:49 <CoderForANewYear> I wasn't thinking anything

07:50 <quail> I swetted to much last night

07:51 <quail> it this damn heat wave we are having

07:51 <quail> it got up to 40C again today

07:52 <quail> &math convert 40 C F

07:52 <Romulus> quail: 104.0

07:52 <CoderForANewYear> ouch

07:52 <CoderForANewYear> what's the humidity?

07:52 <quail>

07:52 <Romulus> <> (at

07:53 <Romulus> meh I get mysql from my 1981 tax file

07:53 <quail> rommie sweet

07:54 <quail> rommie I get mysql from the debian repository

07:58 <CoderForANewYear> I don't think mysql was around in 1981, Rommie

07:58 <CoderForANewYear> maybe dBase II

07:58 <CoderForANewYear> may have still been called Vulcan then

08:03 <sethy> i just watched SG-1 S:10-E:20

08:03 <sethy> and i just like

08:03 <sethy> almost cried

08:03 <Romulus> this morring and it ran

08:03 * xcamel_away is back.

08:03 *** xcamel_away is now known as xcamel

08:04 <sethy> morning Jay

08:04 * xcamel yawns

08:04 <sethy> and happy new year :)

08:04 <xcamel> ditto

08:05 <quail> g'day Jay, HNY

08:06 <sethy> afternoon dale, Happy new year :)

08:08 <CoderForANewYear> moring sethy xcamel

08:08 <CoderForANewYear> Happy New Year sethy

08:08 <CoderForANewYear> Happy New Year xcamel

08:08 <sethy> Happy New Year CoderForANewYear

08:10 <CoderForANewYear> ty sethy

08:11 <xcamel> yeah.. HNY everybody..

08:11 <CoderForANewYear> ty Jay

08:11 <CoderForANewYear> last day for my CFANY nick =)

08:15 <xcamel> shoulders hurt..

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08:16 <xcamel> and it's snowing again

08:16 <HeXiLeD> ya

08:17 <HeXiLeD> wet flurries here

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08:21 <CoderForANewYear> bbiab - need to open birdfeeder - I lock it down at night to keep the raccoons out

08:21 <Romulus> they have forums, I guess he dont think so

08:24 <quail> sethy thanks

08:24 <sethy> :)

08:24 <quail> sethy: HNY to you too bloke :-)

08:25 <sethy> i'm not a bloke, i'm still too young :$

08:26 <quail>

08:26 <Romulus> <> (at

08:27 <quail> &web title

08:27 <Romulus> <> (at

08:27 <Romulus> quail: HTTP Error 403: Bad Behavior

08:27 <quail> huh? rommie that not what it called

08:28 <xcamel> that's a good one..

08:45 <xcamel> heavy snow warning - 8:00 am today til 2:00 am tomorrom

08:45 <xcamel> big woop - another 8"

08:51 <xcamel> &weather 12074

08:51 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 25.1F / -3.8C | Humidity: 84% | Pressure: 29.90in / 1012.4hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Snow. Snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches. Highs in the lower 30s. South winds around 5 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy. Snow likely in the evening...then a chance of snow showers after midnight. Total accumulation of (1 more message)

08:51 <xcamel> &more

08:51 <Romulus> xcamel: 3 to 6 inches. Lows around 19. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 70 percent.; Wednesday - Mostly cloudy in the morning...then becoming partly sunny. A chance of flurries. Cold with highs in the mid 20s. Northwest winds around 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph.; Snow Advisory for Saratoga County in effect until 2:00 AM EST on January 02, 2008;

08:51 <xcamel> it is going to get cold again...

08:55 <quail> xcamel: soon you'll have to put tennis racket on your feet to get around :-P

08:56 <quail> in the snow that is

08:56 <Romulus> hey is anyone here

08:56 <quail> Romulus: hell NO!

08:56 <Romulus> quail: Error: You need to have PySQLite installed to use this plugin.  Download it at <>

08:58 <wdsmia> &8ball is Romulus really here

08:58 <Romulus> wdsmia: The outlook is poor.

09:00 <wdsmia> &weather 50265

09:00 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 11F / -12C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 30.44in / 1031hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 21mph / 33km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly cloudy. Bitterly cold. A slight chance of snow showers in the morning...then scattered flurries in the afternoon. High 10 to 15. Temperature steady or slowly falling in the afternoon. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around (1 more message)

09:00 <wdsmia> &more

09:00 <Romulus> wdsmia: 30 mph. Chance of snow 20 percent. Wind chill readings 5 to 10 below.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy early in the evening then becoming partly cloudy. Bitterly cold. Low zero to 5 below. Northwest wind 10 to 20 mph. Wind chill readings 10 to 15 below.; Wednesday - Sunny. Bitterly cold. High around 15. West wind 5 to 10 mph.;

09:06 <xcamel> those temps are heading here..

09:07 <quail> wdsmia: g'evening Doug, HNY

09:08 * quail sends xcamel some of our 40+C weather

09:08 <xcamel> just a little of it..

09:09 <xcamel> at least you have the ocean right there...

09:11 <quail> and a nudist beach too ;-P

09:13 <xcamel> no comment..

09:14 <quail> hehe, be honest you'd like to be here :-P

09:15 <quail> xcamel: I got another young cockatiel today

09:16 <xcamel> cool..

09:16 <xcamel> teach it to talk..

09:16 <quail> and my older cockatiel is looking after him

09:16 <xcamel> they get along OK?

09:17 <quail> yep, my older cockatiel grooms him

09:18 <quail> but my older cockatiel get very jelous when I am hand training the little one

09:18 <quail> he was attacking the young one when I had them both out the cage

09:19 <quail> and attacking me

09:20 <xcamel> that's normal.

09:20 <xcamel> My CAG is scared to death of his own image in the mirror.

09:20 <Romulus> just broke 100k ru today

09:20 <quail> we go two cockatiels here to look after, and the young male is in with my cockatiel, and they brother

09:21 <xcamel> and my orangewing "can't live" without his mirror...

09:21 <quail> hehe

09:21 <quail> apache love his mirror

09:22 <quail> apache is a radical cockatiel

09:22 <quail> most his life he had no tail feathers

09:22 <xcamel> uh-huh

09:22 <quail> cause he just trashes them

09:23 <xcamel> doesn't fly enough..

09:23 <quail> but he got tail feather atm and he pita with them

09:24 <quail> not he can fly np with out them, but now he got them he flys better a pita to catch now

09:24 <quail> s/not/no

09:25 <quail> the new cockatiel I got is named gizzle, cause he gizzles so much

09:27 <quail> but he only here for couple weeks, so when my mum friend comes back from holiday I have to ask her to keep gizzle cause apache has grown attached to him

09:30 <quail> well there np in me keeping gizzle it what I have to pay for him, I know she prob give him to me but I might have to pay 40$ for him. which I have np with cause apache has grown attached to him already by in the way of cleaning him and following him around and talking to him

09:32 <quail> grizzle is only aout 8 weeks old and already eating seed

09:35 <Bad_At_Home> is it snowing yet xcamel

09:42 <xcamel> it is.. another 6-8 expected..

09:52 <quail> xcamel: here is apache and grizzle >>> <<< gizzle is on the left and apache is on the right

09:52 <Romulus> <> (at

09:52 <CoderForANewYear> light flurries here

09:55 <quail> I need to setup a web cam on my birds as I do love them so much, and boardcast it to the internet for people to see

09:56 <BadBarbarian[a]> lot of white stuff coming here later in the week xcamel so beware lol

10:01 <CoderForANewYear> one of my banks web sites says that a "start date" of 12/22/07 is later than an "end date" of 01/01/08

10:03 <quail> huh? wtf?

10:03 <Romulus> jinx you owe me $10k. 48 hours of community service, guess what city I live in california, worst we get ours from there to party anyhow

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10:03 <CoderForANewYear> somebody messed up their Javascript date edits

10:04 <CoderForANewYear> wb hexiled - Happy 1337 New Year

10:10 <quail> CoderForANewYear: you see my birds?

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10:11 <CoderForANewYear> no

10:11 <quail> CoderForANewYear: read up

10:11 <CoderForANewYear> I just flipped my bank the bird for their sloppy date editing.

10:11 <CoderForANewYear> Makes you worry about account balances.

10:12 <quail> hehe

10:12 <BadBarbarian[a]> &weather 86023

10:12 <Romulus> BadBarbarian[a]: Temperature: 19F / -7C | Humidity: 24% | Pressure: 30.61in / 1037hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs around 32 on the North Rim to around 45 along the Colorado River. East around 15 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening then becoming mostly cloudy. Lows around 7 above on the North Rim to around 23 along the Colorado (1 more message)

10:12 <BadBarbarian[a]> &more

10:12 <Romulus> BadBarbarian[a]: River. Light winds.; Wednesday - Not as cool. Mostly cloudy. Highs around 44 on the North Rim to around 55 along the Colorado River. Light winds.;

10:13 <CoderForANewYear> birds - in a cage...

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10:13 <quail> CoderForANewYear: if you are interested thi what I look like >>>

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10:13 <Romulus> <> (at

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10:13 <CoderForANewYear> where'd the beard go?

10:14 <quail> ah it comes and goes

10:14 <CoderForANewYear> no wonder you're so hot - turn off the heater

10:14 <quail> hehe

10:14 <CoderForANewYear> turn on the fan

10:15 <quail> don't worry mate the a/c is on :-)

10:15 <CoderForANewYear> take off the shades and unplug from The Matrix

10:15 <quail> hehe

10:23 <xcamel> need to check and see if my weather records rolled over for the new year...

10:24 <xcamel> back, btw

10:25 <xcamel> lol - check the webcams

10:26 <PovAddict> a bit foggy

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10:34 <xcamel> that's all snow...

10:35 <xcamel> not fog...

10:35 <Romulus> if they have 7

10:35 <xcamel> wow - I think quail is trying to look like Vin Diesel..

10:37 <quail> xcamel: who the hell is he?

10:38 <xcamel> in the movies.. like "triple X" (no, not porn)

10:38 <quail> not seen it

10:38 * quail doing shopping list for tomorrow

10:39 <xcamel>

10:39 <Romulus> <> (at

10:39 <quail> need more salad stuff

10:40 <xcamel> CONCORD, N.H. (AP) - Today's snowstorm made this month the snowiest December in New Hampshire in more than a century.

10:40 <xcamel> The National Weather Service in Gray, Maine, said Concord, where New Hampshire records are kept, beat the previous record of 43 inches of snow in December by an inch and a half. That record was set in 1876.

10:40 <xcamel> Overall, the storm left 10.1 inches in Concord, and more in other parts of the state.

10:41 <xcamel> the revenge of frosty...

10:41 <quail> hehe

10:41 <xcamel> missed the record here... by one inch.

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10:45 * quail hates doing a shopping list

10:46 <CoderForANewYear> then...

10:46 <PovAddict> "People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing everyday."

10:47 <quail> I need to get cucumber, fetta, celery, olives, carrots and bread tomorrow

10:47 <CoderForANewYear> Hello PovAddict - HNY

10:48 <quail> hey PovAddict HNY

10:48 <CoderForANewYear> Vin Diesel also "Chronicles of Riddick"

10:49 <quail> and that car movie

10:50 <quail> and no I not trying to look like him it just cheaper for me th cut my own hair with the clipper

10:50 <quail> s

10:52 <quail> and I hate to shave so that where the clippers come useful too

10:53 <quail> I have not shaved in 7 years

10:53 <HeXiLeD> going bigfoot style ?

10:54 <quail> no I use clippers if you read ^

10:55 <quail> but I have had a long beard as CoderForANewYear has commented about

10:56 <PovAddict> heh

10:56 <PovAddict>

10:57 <Romulus> Title: RFC 2324 Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol (HTCPCP/1.0) (at

10:57 <CoderForANewYear> a long overdue standard

10:57 <quail> do I really need to look at PovAddict

11:09 <xcamel> hmmm... looks like we get a dry slot, then a big wrap-around blast...

11:13 <xcamel> Looks like you're almost getting snow, Don..

11:13 <xcamel> probably some strong winds...

11:14 <CoderForANewYear> been having lite stuff all morning

11:14 <CoderForANewYear> winds are supposed to be gusty today

11:14 <CoderForANewYear> &weather 45140

11:14 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: Temperature: 27.2F / -2.7C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 30.14in / 1020.5hPa | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Today - Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of snow showers. Much colder with highs around 30. West winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with scattered snow showers. Cooler with lows 15 to 20. Northwest winds around (1 more message)

11:15 <CoderForANewYear> &more

11:15 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of snow 50 percent.; Wednesday - Mostly cloudy in the morning...then becoming partly sunny. A 20 percent chance of snow showers. Highs in the lower 20s. Northwest winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph.;

11:15 <CoderForANewYear> back to w@#% tomorrow =(

11:16 <CoderForANewYear> still in the process of putting together the weather station

11:16 <CoderForANewYear> reminds me of doing a Heathkit

11:17 <CoderForANewYear> also working on end-of-year personal financials - getting odometer readings on cars, counting and reconciling cash amounts, etc

11:28 <Tank_Master> fun stuff

11:29 <xcamel> which one did you get?

11:31 <CoderForANewYear> the weather station?

11:32 <Romulus> the melee, that is not availabe MTughan

11:33 <CoderForANewYear> except my display is in a green John Deere logoed case

11:34 <Romulus> <> (at

11:35 <CoderForANewYear> got the pole put up yesterday for the anemometer

11:36 <CoderForANewYear> ran out of gump, and it's too cold/windy today to actually install the anemometer, although I did get it assembled and calibrated at my desk this morning

11:36 <Tank_Master> sweet

11:37 <CoderForANewYear> should be fun - the kind of thing I've always wanted, I'd never buy, and is great to get as a gift

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11:45 <CoderForANewYear> bbiab

11:45 <Tank_Master> hf

11:51 <xcamel> CFL: that's the one I used to have at work...

11:51 <xcamel> now I use the 'vantage pro'

11:52 <xcamel> but that is a great little unit if you don't put the sensors too far away.

11:55 <sethy> like guys, i have preachers

11:55 <sethy> not poachers

11:59 <quail> wow it getting cold here

11:59 <quail> the temp dropped so fast here I am cold with the a/c on

12:00 <quail> damn raddical weather we have here

12:20 <PovAddict> yawn

12:20 <PovAddict> I feel so tired

12:20 <PovAddict> couldn't sleep last night

12:20 <PovAddict> 29C at 4 am *can't* be normal

12:24 <wdsmia> -13C at noon isnt much fun eather

12:31 <sethy> hay if i closed boinc, deleted client_state_prev.xml, when i re-run boinc will it re-write?

12:33 <PovAddict> the _prev file is kinda useless

12:33 <PovAddict> it's only used if the main client_state gets broken

12:33 <sethy> ok

12:33 <sethy> ty

12:33 <sethy> so basicly its a backup

12:35 <PovAddict> yep

12:36 <sethy> so the boinc mirc script needs changing completely

12:37 <PovAddict> why wut

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12:37 <PovAddict> parsing client_state.xml is almost always a bad idea

12:37 <sethy> so use the backup

12:37 <sethy>

12:37 <Romulus> <> (at

12:38 <PovAddict> 'cause devs are free to change its format at any time, and when that happens I will lol at all addons that break

12:38 <Romulus> thats why i saw you on '08

12:38 <sethy> ohcrap rommy saw me

12:39 <sethy> its requesting boinc.xml

12:47 <sethy> PovAddict: njsg is in #sethiroth66

12:48 <PovAddict> there is still a #sethiroth66?

12:48 <sethy> forever and always

12:48 <sethy> :)

12:48 <sethy> do /j ?

12:49 <CoderForANewYear> thanks for the info xcamel

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12:52 <sethy> >;o

12:53 <CoderForANewYear> &math convert

12:53 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: (math convert [<number>] <unit> to <other unit>) -- Converts from <unit> to <other unit>. If number isn't given, it defaults to 1. For unit information, see 'units' command.

12:53 <CoderForANewYear> &math convert 1 euro usd

12:53 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: Error: euro is not a valid unit.

12:53 <PovAddict> &currency convert

12:53 <Romulus> PovAddict: (currency convert [<number>] <currency1> [to] <currency2>) -- Converts from <currency1> to <currency2>. If number isn't given, it defaults to 1.

12:53 <CoderForANewYear> cut the political talk Rommie

12:53 <PovAddict> lol

12:54 <CoderForANewYear> &currency convert 5000 euro usd

12:54 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: Error: You used an incorrect currency symbol.

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12:54 <PovAddict> :-\

12:54 <CoderForANewYear> &currency convert 5000 euro dollar

12:54 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: Error: Currency must be denoted by its three-letter symbol.

12:54 <CoderForANewYear> etf

12:54 <PovAddict> seems to be EUR

12:54 <CoderForANewYear> ah

12:54 <CoderForANewYear> &currency convert 5000 eur usd

12:54 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: 5000.00 eur = 7302.50 usd

12:54 <CoderForANewYear> wow  expensive

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12:55 <CoderForANewYear>

12:55 <Romulus> Title: mxGraph Frequently-Asked Questions (at

12:55 <CoderForANewYear> 5000 euro

12:56 * PovAddict notes unusable nav bar

12:57 <Tank_Master> yoyoyo

12:59 <PovAddict> CoderForANewYear: nowhere near worth it...

13:00 <PovAddict> "The ability to edit complex diagrams within a web browser is the final solution we need to move our entire application to a thin client architecture" lol...

13:00 <yoyo[RKN]> hi

13:00 <PovAddict> with all the big chunks of client-side javascript, it's not 'thin' anymore

13:02 <Tank_Master> oh, yoyo, I see you made it to the top 15 projects in BOINCStats

13:02 <Tank_Master> congrats!

13:02 <CoderForANewYear> well - off to visit my sister in the hospital - bbl

13:02 <Tank_Master> tc

13:02 <Tank_Master> wish her luck!

13:02 <CoderForANewYear> thx

13:03 <CoderForANewYear> every day

13:03 <CoderForANewYear> thx

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13:10 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86023

13:10 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 27F / -3C | Humidity: 18% | Pressure: 30.64in / 1038hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 21mph / 33km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs around 32 on the North Rim to around 45 along the Colorado River. East around 15 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening then becoming mostly cloudy. Lows around 7 above on the North Rim to around 23 along the Colorado (1 more message)

13:10 <BadBarbarian> &more

13:10 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: River. Light winds.; Wednesday - Not as cool. Mostly cloudy. Highs around 44 on the North Rim to around 55 along the Colorado River. Light winds.;

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13:14 <linux_stu> how do i configure boinc to not run when the user is active in linux?

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14:03 <linux_stu> how do i configure boinc to not run when the user is active in linux?  here is the config file that i found (/var/lib/boinc/global_prefs.xml)

14:03 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at

14:04 <linux_stu> how do i configure boinc to not run when the user is active in linux?  here is the config file that i found (/var/lib/boinc/global_prefs.xml)

14:04 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at

14:04 <PovAddict> linux_stu: never edit that file by hand

14:04 <linux_stu> ok

14:04 <linux_stu> sry if that message went twice

14:04 <PovAddict> argh I hate WCG website

14:04 <Romulus> no - they don't charge residential time based rates

14:05 <linux_stu> so how do i change prefs PovAddict?

14:06 <PovAddict> I'm trying to find it

14:06 <PovAddict> WCG website has all mixed up

14:06 <linux_stu> o ok

14:06 <linux_stu> yeah i experienced that...

14:06 <PovAddict>

14:06 <Romulus> <> (at

14:07 <PovAddict> click on the Default profile

14:07 <PovAddict> god damnit how do I make this stupid website show in English?

14:08 <linux_stu> lol

14:08 <linux_stu> i don't know

14:08 <PovAddict> well anyway...

14:08 <PovAddict> scroll down

14:08 <PovAddict> to Advanced Options/Processor use

14:08 <PovAddict> first setting is run while user active

14:08 <linux_stu> ok

14:09 <PovAddict> anyway... why do you want to... BOINC runs in low priority, shouldn't be affecting other programs

14:09 <linux_stu> so will my client automatically load those settings?

14:09 <linux_stu> i guess i don't need to set it that way

14:10 <PovAddict> yeah or you could select the project on the manager and click Update

14:10 <linux_stu> ok

14:10 <linux_stu> i haven't noticed any impact since i installed boinc

14:26 <xcamel> back from grooming

14:28 <linux_stu> grooming?

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14:35 <PovAddict> efc: wtf nickname

14:35 <efc> sorry, was using that on another network

14:36 <Romulus> as long as you outbound SMTP server, or get $350K in government grants and subsidies

14:36 <PovAddict> lol Romulus

14:36 <xcamel> linux_stu: grooming snowmobile trails and dog sledding trails...

14:37 <linux_stu> i c.  i thought you were getting a manicure xcamel

14:38 <PovAddict> lol

14:38 <efc> xcamel & etc: we got mother a Gator vehicle. Not sure what she's going to do with it, but looks fun.

14:38 <xcamel> fat chance...

14:38 <xcamel> they are fun...

14:41 <efc> It has places on the dash for options we didn't get, so we could build our own. I'm thinking passenger eject, rocket launcher, etc

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14:46 <xcamel> the vulcan cannon on the roll bar and the ammo boxes...

14:52 <MTughan> quail: Long time, but you would install the x86 versions. What CPU does it have exactly?

14:52 <Romulus> MTughan, build is going on

14:53 <PovAddict> huh

14:53 <MTughan> Rommie, STFU.

14:53 <MTughan> That's the second you've flashed me today...

14:57 <xcamel> lol..

14:57 <xcamel> He likes you..

15:03 <xcamel> looks like a few more heavy bursts of snow coming..

15:03 <linux_stu> it's snowing here!

15:03 <PovAddict> &weather buenos aires

15:03 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 81°F / 27°C | Humidity: 74% | Pressure: 29.86in / 1011hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 21mph / 33km/h | Updated: 4:00 PM ART; Scattered Clouds. High:87 F. / 31 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:73 F. / 23 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:96 F. / 36 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:80 F. / 27 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:91 F. / 33 C.; Chance of Rain. (1 more message)

15:03 <xcamel> where are you?

15:04 <efc> No snow for us, phooey

15:04 <linux_stu> kentucky, usa, xcamel

15:06 <xcamel> looks like a pretty good snowburst just got started there too..

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15:06 <xcamel> just getting to pikeville..

15:06 <linux_stu> where are u xcamel?

15:07 <xcamel> upstate NY

15:07 <linux_stu> ah

15:07 <linux_stu> a lot more snow there

15:07 <xcamel> we got burries...

15:07 <xcamel> er.. burried even

15:07 <xcamel> oh cripes

15:07 <linux_stu> lol

15:08 <xcamel> lots anyway..

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15:18 <xcamel> linux_stu: you can get your weather forecast by typing &weather <your zipcode>

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15:23 <linux_stu> back

15:24 <Romulus> they all had thier go at overseas landing sites

15:24 <linux_stu> &weather 40222

15:24 <Romulus> linux_stu: Temperature: 30F / -1C | Humidity: 49% | Pressure: 30.25in / 1024hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 21mph / 33km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy...breezy and colder with snow showers likely. Snow accumulation up to 1 inch. Lows around 17. Gusty northwest winds 15 to 25 mph. Chance of snow 60 percent.; Wednesday - Partly cloudy. Chance of flurries. Highs in the lower 20s. (1 more message)

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15:25 <xcamel> 'lo BB

15:27 <BadBarbarian> lo jay

15:27 <BadBarbarian> calling for 18 inches here this weekend

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15:40 <xcamel> pretty close to what we have on the ground here

15:48 <efc> Sounds fun!

15:54 <xcamel> makes running the polaris very tough on the shoulders...

16:00 <xcamel> bbl..

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16:05 <Saenger> happy new year everyone!

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16:12 <mweltin> how do you manually grant someone credit?

16:14 <PovAddict> update user set total_credit = total_credit + 10 where id = 358; and to his team too

16:14 <PovAddict> only way...

16:14 <Romulus> 20% oc on this channel; but most i like those silly powerpoint things that might be interested in doing a little work available

16:14 <mweltin> thaks

16:14 <PovAddict> and be CAREFUL not to wipe your whole database off due to a typo :D

16:15 <mweltin> will do

16:15 <mweltin> err will not do

16:15 <PovAddict> lol

16:22 <mweltin> how was the beach yesterday?

16:22 <PovAddict> wut beach

16:23 <mweltin> I thought you went to the beach yesterday

16:24 <CoderForANewYear> back

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16:59 <xcamel> ack?

17:06 <mweltin> hey Pov what is the deal with the svn repo, I can only seem to check out the entire repo not just one branch?

17:06 <PovAddict> you can check out whatever you want... even single directories, as has always been

17:07 <mweltin> If I use I can't just get

17:07 <Romulus> Title: Revision 69: / (at

17:07 <PovAddict> no

17:07 <mweltin> I can only check out which comes with everything

17:07 <Romulus> Title: Revision 69: / (at

17:07 <PovAddict> due to a small problem that can't be easily solved, it's

17:07 <Romulus> Title: Revision 69: /tsp (at

17:07 <mweltin> ahhh

17:07 <mweltin> ok

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17:13 <mweltin> there we go

17:13 <mweltin> thanks PovAddict

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17:22 * xcamel yawns..

17:22 <PovAddict> "The only time Micro$oft will make something that doesn't suck, they'll be making vacuum cleaners."

17:22 <xcamel> must need dinner..

17:24 <mweltin> LOL

17:26 <mweltin> PovAddict how do MTughan and Curnch3r commit stuff?

17:26 <PovAddict> they get origo accounts and tell me (or you) to add them as project members

17:27 <mweltin> ok

17:28 <PovAddict> go to, click Manage Project on the side navbar, and there is 'Add project staff'

17:30 <mweltin> got it

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17:45 <CoderForANewYear> &weather 45140

17:45 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: Temperature: 22.3F / -5.4C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 30.15in / 1020.9hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 16.1mph / 25.9km/h ; Tonight - A chance of snow showers this evening...then occasional snow showers after midnight. Snow accumulation 1 to 2 inches. Colder with lows 15 to 20. West winds around 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of snow 90 percent.; (1 more message)

17:45 <CoderForANewYear> &more

17:45 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: Wednesday - Cloudy. A chance of snow showers in the morning. Colder with highs around 20. Northwest winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of snow 30 percent.; Wednesday Night - Mostly cloudy. Lows around 10 above. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; Snow Advisory for Hamilton County in effect until 10:00 AM EST on January 02, 2008;

17:46 <CoderForANewYear> "snow advisory", "1 to 2 inches"

17:46 <CoderForANewYear> weather weenies

17:46 <CoderForANewYear> off 4 2 nite

17:47 <CoderForANewYear> cya nice folks back here soon

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18:03 <efc> &weather 30625

18:03 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 45F / 7C | Humidity: 29% | Pressure: 30.17in / 1022hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 20s. West winds 10 to 25 mph. Wind chill readings around zero.; Wednesday - Mostly sunny. Windy. Highs in the lower 40s. Northwest winds 15 to 20 mph. Wind chill readings around 10.; Wednesday Night - Mostly clear. Lows (1 more message)

18:13 <xcamel> still getting some waves of snow...

18:15 <xcamel> lol >>

18:15 <Romulus> <> (at

18:15 <PovAddict> meh

18:16 <Romulus> it s a rumor, neved had a dull core for one day

18:21 <efc> Hehe good one

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18:56 <briareus> hi all

19:01 <xcamel> 'lo

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19:23 <MTughan> PovAddict: Should I be getting an Origo account then?

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19:23 <PovAddict> fauxfaux?

19:23 <MTughan> Faux is French for false, as I remember...

19:23 <PovAddict> you might get your butt kicked for using the C++ bot nickname

19:23 <geordi> I blame irssi, as usual. :)

19:23 <Romulus> a WU stopped at 1.920%. WTF?

19:24 <MTughan> xcamel: Tell Rommie to STFU.

19:24 <FauxFaux> PovAddict: It's my bot, I'm just trying tor egister the nick. :P

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19:40 <xcamel> calm down, Mike.

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19:45 <FreeLarry> well PovAddict the file does work

19:45 <FreeLarry> haven't figured out how to get a boincmgr screen to run on my acct -- yet

19:46 <FreeLarry> except now cant seem to get it to communicate to internet ;?

19:46 <Romulus> got home from work: 45 minutes

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20:06 <xcamel> 'lo Larry..

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20:31 <xcamel> Fast-acting Cyanide Antidote Discovered

20:31 <xcamel>

20:31 <Romulus> <> (at

20:31 <Romulus> well, that PDA would let me go with two :)

20:33 <efc> Now, to discover some faster-acting Cyanide

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20:45 <FreeLarry> humm maybe is shouldn't hav said apply updates - just noticed it said 795 available

20:46 <FreeLarry> it going urk right now doing dependancies check

20:51 <FreeLarry> must have been alright doing dl of packages now - after an hour of checking

21:16 <xcamel> fedora update?

21:17 <FreeLarry> yup

21:18 <FreeLarry> still dl'ing packages

21:18 <FreeLarry> showing about 15% done

21:19 <xcamel> I use kyum and only update stuff I really use..

21:21 <FreeLarry> lol - i don't know what i really use yet

21:22 <FreeLarry> when something doesn't work then i uninstall it

21:22 * FreeLarry or try to

21:26 <xcamel> yupper..

21:29 <efc> &weather Icy Cape

21:29 <Romulus> efc: Error: Could not find weather information.  (This may be a bug. If you think it is, please file a bug report at < acker/?func=add&group_id=58965&atid=489447>.)

21:33 <xcamel> bahhh..

21:34 <efc> &weather barrow

21:34 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: -16F / -27C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 20mph / 32km/h ; Tonight - Increasing clouds. Blowing snow developing. A chance of snow. Temperatures nearly steady at 15 below. Northeast winds 15 mph increasing to 25 to 30 mph.; Wednesday - Cloudy with a chance of snow. Occasional blowing snow. Highs 5 to 10 below. Northeast (1 more message)

21:35 <efc> Still looking through Alaska for other inhospitable places

21:35 <briareus> &weather tatalina

21:36 <Romulus> briareus: Error: Could not find weather information.  (This may be a bug. If you think it is, please file a bug report at < acker/?func=add&group_id=58965&atid=489447>.)

21:36 <briareus> !!

21:36 <briareus>

21:36 <Romulus> <> (at

21:36 <briareus> so the &weather app must point somewhere else

21:37 <briareus> tatalina is fairly inhospitable

21:38 <efc> Some of those islands down in the roaring 40s are probably pretty nasty

21:38 <efc> Not so cold, but rain 60% of the time and chilly

21:38 <xcamel> &weather Barrow, AK

21:38 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: -16F / -27C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 20mph / 32km/h ; Tonight - Increasing clouds. Blowing snow developing. A chance of snow. Temperatures nearly steady at 15 below. Northeast winds 15 mph increasing to 25 to 30 mph.; Wednesday - Cloudy with a chance of snow. Occasional blowing snow. Highs 5 to 10 below. (1 more message)

21:38 <xcamel> now that's cold

21:39 <briareus> Tue's Low Temperature: 29 BELOW ZERO at Alamosa Co

21:39 <efc> Let's see how nasty it is in Siberia...

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21:39 <efc> &weather Yakutsk

21:39 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: -26°F / -32°C | Humidity: 69% | Pressure: 29.71in / 1006hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h | Updated: 11:00 AM YAKT; Overcast. High:-22 F. / -30 C.; Chance of Snow. Low:-25 F. / -32 C.; Chance of Snow. High:-20 F. / -29 C.; Overcast. Low:-23 F. / -31 C.; Overcast. High:-22 F. / -30 C.; Overcast. Low:-29 F. / -34 C.;

21:40 <efc> a lot warmer than last night

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21:41 <xcamel> they can keep it..

21:41 <xcamel> it's going to get damn cold enough here in a couple days..

21:42 <MTughan> Hmm... Looking at video cards again, because I learnt that my power supply is 500W. Would a GeForce 8600 GT(S) or Radeon HD2600 be a better choice?

21:42 <efc> I running running today with it around 45 F, thats about as cold as I can stand (for running)

21:42 <Tank_Master> anyone got any adeas on the RAC I can expect from a core2 2140?

21:43 <Tank_Master> 2GB ram, with vista

21:44 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

21:44 <Tank_Master> &more

21:44 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Tuesday Night - Mostly cloudy. Lows around 35. Southeast wind 5 to 15 mph...except east wind 20 to 30 mph with gusts to 45 mph near The Gorge.;

21:44 <Romulus> ummmm can taste it now >.<

21:44 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 41.5F / 5.3C | Humidity: 50% | Pressure: 29.99in / 1015.5hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of rain and flurries after midnight. Lows around 35. Southeast wind 5 to 15 mph...except east wind 15 to 30 mph near The Gorge. Near The Gorge...gusts to 45 mph in the evening.; Wednesday - Rain. Highs 40 to 45. (1 more message)

21:45 <MTughan> &more Tank_Master

21:45 <Romulus> MTughan: South wind 5 to 15 mph with gusts to 30 mph.; Wednesday Night - Rain likely. Lows around 40. Southeast wind 10 to 15 mph. Near The Gorge...gusts to 45 mph after midnight.;

21:46 <MTughan> Looks like you left a message last time you did the &weather.

21:47 <xcamel> lol

21:48 <xcamel> wow - snow in north GA

21:49 <efc> Not uncommon for the north tip to get it. Where we had our lake place.

21:49 <efc> &weather Clayton, GA

21:49 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 28.0F / -2.2C | Humidity: 61% | Pressure: 30.25in / 1024.3hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 9.0mph / 14.5km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a 50 percent chance of snow showers. Snow accumulation around an inch possible. Blustery with lows around 17. West winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 35 mph. Wind chill values as low as zero.; Wednesday - Partly sunny and (1 more message)

21:50 <xcamel> well off with me..

21:50 * xcamel is away: Gone away for now.

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21:55 <briareus> &weather scottsdale

21:55 <Romulus> briareus: Temperature: 60.1F / 15.6C | Humidity: 19% | Pressure: 29.76in / 1007.7hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 8.0mph / 12.9km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Breezy...warmer. Lows 35 to 45. East wind 15 to 25 mph. Gusts to 35 mph.; Wednesday - Partly sunny. Breezy. Highs 64 to 69. East wind 15 to 25 mph. Gusts to 35 mph.; Wednesday Night - Mostly cloudy. Lows 37 to 47. Northeast (1 more message)

21:55 <Tank_Master> &more

21:55 <Romulus> Tank_Master: South wind 5 to 15 mph with gusts to 30 mph.; Wednesday Night - Rain likely. Lows around 40. Southeast wind 10 to 15 mph. Near The Gorge...gusts to 45 mph after midnight.;

21:55 <Tank_Master> &more

21:55 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.

21:56 <Tank_Master> you should see the 10day forcast for here

21:56 <Tank_Master> rain in each n every square

22:00 <PovAddict> Lottery: A tax on people who are bad at math.

22:00 <briareus> while running the boinc run_manager in one terminal, is there also a cli command I can type into another terminal to get a text status of all attached projects?

22:01 <PovAddict> boinc_cmd --get_project_status

22:01 <briareus> seet

22:01 <briareus> sweet

22:03 <briareus> is there a way to grep two different things in one command?

22:03 <PovAddict> search something or something else?

22:03 <briareus> something like:  ./boinc_cmd --get_project_status | grep user_total_credit && grep name

22:03 <PovAddict> ...what are you trying to do

22:03 <briareus> so it shows name and total score

22:03 <PovAddict> ./boinc_cmd --get_project_status | grep "user_total_credit|name"

22:03 <Romulus> should be the last ones I like to hrow away months of work now

22:03 <briareus> ah

22:03 <PovAddict> (you need quotes, or use \| instead)

22:04 <Tank_Master> !! the bot misspelled something?

22:04 <PovAddict> shit

22:04 <wdsmia> asks PovAddict to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

22:04 <briareus> hmmm

22:05 <PovAddict> I just lol'd irl and it's like 1 am and my parents are sleeping... and it was something silly

22:05 <Tank_Master> &shit

22:05 <wdsmia> asks Tank_Master to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

22:05 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: You need to have PySQLite installed to use this plugin.  Download it at <>

22:05 <briareus> briareus@SMGL-1420n:~/apps/BOINC$ ./boinc_cmd --get_project_status | grep "user_total_credit|name"

22:05 <briareus> briareus@SMGL-1420n:~/apps/BOINC$

22:05 <briareus> another combo?

22:05 <PovAddict> grep "user_total_credit\|name"

22:05 <briareus> greps nothing, produces all

22:06 <briareus> sorry, it does

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22:06 <E-30> hey

22:07 <Tank_Master> e3!

22:07 <E-30> the tank

22:08 <E-30> wow you are like allways here

22:09 <briareus> ./boinc_cmd --get_project_status | grep "user_total_credit\|master URL"

22:09 <briareus> that works just fine

22:09 <briareus> thanks

22:10 <PovAddict> your problem is there was a lot of other crap with 'name' on it

22:10 <PovAddict> like user name or gui url name

22:11 <briareus> yeah

22:12 <briareus> the master url works fine, better than I was going for actually :)

22:15 <efc> wow, coldest ever in the US, -80F / -62C in AK

22:15 <PovAddict> !

22:20 <briareus> &weather scottsdale

22:20 <Romulus> briareus: Temperature: 59.9F / 15.5C | Humidity: 19% | Pressure: 29.76in / 1007.7hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 8.0mph / 12.9km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Breezy...warmer. Lows 35 to 45. East wind 15 to 25 mph. Gusts to 35 mph.; Wednesday - Partly sunny. Breezy. Highs 64 to 69. East wind 15 to 25 mph. Gusts to 35 mph.; Wednesday Night - Mostly cloudy. Lows 37 to 47. Northeast (1 more message)

22:20 <briareus> whoops

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22:25 <briareus> PovAddict: thanks for the command help, this way I can check it on this desktop without clicking over to the other desktop

22:25 <briareus>

22:25 <Romulus> <> (at

22:31 <E-30> wow

22:32 <PovAddict> briareus:

22:32 <Romulus> Title: boinc_curses (at

22:32 <Romulus> it was 12% lower

22:33 <briareus> !!!!heeeyyy thanks

22:33 <briareus> I like that more

22:33 <briareus> I try to run as much in term as I can, so that is nice :)

22:41 <FreeLarry>,2704,2239113,00.asp?kc=PCMS102049TX1K0100488

22:41 <Romulus> <> (at

22:42 * PovAddict puts some dynamite on Ballmer's butt

22:42 <briareus> yeah I've been following that on groklaw

22:43 <briareus> those corporations point to a concern they create

22:43 <briareus> scumbags

22:43 <FreeLarry> business cant leave well enough alone

22:43 <FreeLarry> theres money to be made and we aint getting it

22:44 <FreeLarry> as we want to charge to much

22:44 <FreeLarry> reason i left windows off the new machine

22:45 <briareus> yeah, I've been M$ free for years, and I will never give them another slim dime

22:45 <PovAddict> "And of course, the article has a picture of Elmer FUD, I mean, Steve Balmer.(Shhh, be vewyyy quiet.  I'm huntin' winux!  hehehehe!)"

22:45 <MTughan> lol

22:45 <PovAddict> and you know what FUD is referring to...

22:47 <briareus> This email confirms that you have paid OLPC Foundation $423.95 USD   :)

22:50 <MTughan> I'm off for a little while...

22:53 <efc> 2 PC deal briareus?

22:54 <FreeLarry> cripes 1.5GB and not even 90% of updates dl'ed

22:54 <E-30> lol

22:55 * FreeLarry makes note to self - never apply 795 updates again

22:56 <E-30> lol to what system

22:58 <briareus> efc: Core2duo

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23:13 <E-30> cool

23:13 <E-30> i am talking about freelarry

23:19 <FreeLarry> yes E-30

23:20 <FreeLarry> its finally to point of updating software ;)

23:21 <FreeLarry> and briareus had it right also

23:22 <E-30> what os are you running for that many updats at once

23:31 <Soul_keeper> boom

23:33 <FreeLarry> f7

23:33 <FreeLarry> in nooby play mode

23:37 <E-30> f7 hum

23:41 <FreeLarry> parts of the update look like f8

23:41 <FreeLarry> yum going to be working a long while it seems

23:41 <E-30> oh

23:41 <E-30> yep

23:43 <Soul_keeper> watching this movie called  four brothers

23:43 <Soul_keeper> pretty good

23:46 <E-30> cool

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