IRC logs of #boinc for Wednesday, 2008-01-02

00:02 <briareus> I had what right?

00:06 <FreeLarry> system being updated

00:09 <briareus> oh

00:12 <E-30> oh have fun with that

00:12 <E-30> has anyone heard about sp3 for windows

00:12 <E-30> yet

00:13 <FreeLarry> nope

00:13 <E-30> ok thanks

00:14 <briareus> I like to update about every 6 hours

00:17 <FreeLarry>

00:17 <Romulus> <> (at

00:17 <FreeLarry> dang hit full windows on ie earlier now cant get out of it

00:18 <FreeLarry> finally found where the restore was at

00:19 <FreeLarry> use above link carefully

00:19 <E-30> ok

00:20 <E-30> thanks alot freelarry

00:20 <FreeLarry> hope you don't get as much garbage as my machine brought in

00:21 <E-30> so far no

00:21 <E-30> but hope to stay that way

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00:29 <FreeLarry> from m$ site looks like mostly for office on sp3 update

00:29 <Romulus> Actually, I can see the problem

00:31 <E-30> oh well

00:33 <E-30> sp3 is now downloading

00:39 <MTughan> Is XP SP3 out?

00:39 <E-30> beta is

00:40 <MTughan> Yeah, I know the beta is.

00:40 <E-30> it will be next week

00:40 <MTughan> Full release?

00:40 <E-30> that is what they say

00:41 <MTughan> Interesting...

00:41 <E-30> yea

00:41 <MTughan> How big a download is it anyway?

00:41 <E-30> 313mb

00:41 <E-30> 337mb sory

00:41 <MTughan> Not too bad, but when you have 50+ computers to update...

00:42 <E-30> wow jest down load once put on stick the put it on the next

00:42 <E-30> computer

00:42 <E-30> it a overhall

00:42 <E-30> as i call it

00:42 <MTughan> Oh, so you can get it as an executable file then?

00:43 <MTughan> As a program install, rather.

00:43 <E-30> yea

00:43 <MTughan> Okay, that'll work much better.

00:43 <E-30> i have 6 to put it on

00:43 <MTughan> I hate to think of the high school.

00:43 <MTughan> Probably 150+ XP comps.

00:43 <MTughan> Although they actually use computer images, so they just have to reimage all the machines.

00:44 <MTughan> Wish we could do that here...

00:50 <MTughan> Hmm... I'll have to consider whether it's worth it to upgrade to 4GB RAM in my Macbook... Gonna cost about $80 with the cheapest memory here...

00:51 <FreeLarry>

00:51 <Romulus> <> (at

00:51 <MTughan> With a new core for my desktop system possibly on the way, that's a bit more than I'd like...

00:51 <FreeLarry> doing this one currently

00:52 <E-30> ok so how is it going  now

00:53 <E-30> 1/3 of the way done downloading

00:53 <E-30> now

00:54 <E-30> well i have a collage now to do

00:54 <E-30> 3000 xp computers

00:55 <MTughan> lol

00:55 <E-30> will take about a mouthe to do

00:55 <E-30> mouth

00:55 <E-30> with 6 of us working on it

00:56 <MTughan> Haha! Seen on a description of RAM: "All <company> products are designed for easy installation..."

00:56 <E-30> lol

00:56 <E-30> so

00:56 <E-30> all the same

00:56 <Romulus> echo "Usage: $0 <webcamrc-file>"

00:57 <MTughan> lol... 256MB DDR2 667 notebook RAM: $10.

00:57 <E-30> now win vista running on 521mb of rem

00:58 <E-30> 1024 for anout 39

00:58 <E-30> 512

00:58 <E-30> had to put in 1 gig more to get it running right

00:58 <MTughan> E-30: Slow down the typing a little bit... :P

00:59 <E-30> sorry i am eatting and typeing

00:59 <E-30> lol

00:59 <MTughan> Hehe...

00:59 <E-30> yea snack time

01:00 <MTughan> Okay, I won't bother with a RAM upgrade right now. I'll just envy zombie67's hex-core Mac Pro.

01:00 * MTughan envies zombie67's 8-core Mac

01:00 <E-30> wow

01:00 <E-30> what processer

01:01 <MTughan> It's dual quad-core Xeons, at 3.0GHz.

01:02 <MTughan> Oh, and he run BOINC on it. Needless to say.

01:02 <Soul_keeper> fun

01:02 <E-30> wow fast as hell so do i all i have is dual

01:03 <E-30>

01:03 <Romulus> <> (at

01:03 <E-30> there is my big box now

01:03 <MTughan> Not bad.

01:04 <MTughan> I'm thinking about a C2Q 2.4GHz. :P

01:04 <E-30> its oc to 3.4ghz with watter cooling

01:04 <E-30> stable

01:04 <E-30> been up for a mouth

01:04 <MTughan> What the... What RAM do you have in there?

01:05 <E-30> 667

01:05 <E-30> 4 gigs

01:05 <MTughan> Memory: 2814.46 MB

01:05 <E-30> it a dule bot system it has vista on it too

01:05 <MTughan> 4GB is 4096MB.

01:05 <Romulus> i have Spit_theDog on my b'day seafood caserole

01:05 <E-30> thats the most xp will use

01:05 <MTughan> Ah.

01:05 <MTughan> Makes sense now.

01:06 <E-30> yea the 3 gigs top out

01:06 <MTughan> Actually, not the most XP will use. The most 32-bit will use.

01:06 <E-30> yea

01:06 <MTughan> You don't have XP64?

01:07 <MTughan> Hey, BoincStats updated their site...

01:07 <E-30> no

01:07 <E-30> i ahve vista 64

01:07 <E-30> i know i asm on it now

01:08 <MTughan> Guess that works on it.

01:08 <MTughan> Heh. Here's my graphs on BS.

01:08 <Romulus> <> (at

01:08 <MTughan> You can tell that I've lost my best machine.

01:09 <E-30>

01:09 <Romulus> <> (at

01:09 <E-30> i lost one of my c2d 2.4ghz on thais one

01:09 <MTughan> I need to figure out which project got "Michael" as the name...

01:10 <MTughan> Well, you're still doing quite well.

01:10 <Soul_keeper>

01:10 <Romulus> <> (at

01:10 <MTughan> sterlingp? lol

01:10 <Soul_keeper> yeah that's my name

01:11 <MTughan> Comparing to your IRC nick, as they're often similar/the same.

01:11 <E-30> not bad

01:11 <E-30> mine si

01:11 <E-30> is

01:11 <E-30> sorry

01:11 <MTughan> You stopped on E@H and Malaria?

01:11 <Soul_keeper> i stopped completely on malaria

01:11 <Soul_keeper> i still run e@h tho

01:12 <MTughan> You don't have any credit for it recently.

01:12 <E-30>

01:12 <Romulus> <> (at

01:12 <MTughan> Over the past month.

01:12 <Soul_keeper> just waiting for seti to get above 50% and wcg above 30-33%

01:12 <MTughan> Ah.

01:12 <MTughan> Heh. E-30, you got a new machine in/around October 2006?

01:13 <E-30> yea my big box

01:13 <MTughan> You can see it on the total credit and world position graphs.

01:13 <MTughan> You shot up in credit and shot down in position.

01:14 <E-30> yea

01:14 <E-30> well it is the c3d 2.4ghz oc to 3.4ghz on watter and 4 gigs of ram

01:14 <Soul_keeper> i no longer have a computing power to keep moving up in rank it seems

01:14 <MTughan> Core 3 Duo? lol

01:15 <Soul_keeper> the*

01:15 <E-30> 2

01:15 <E-30> lol

01:15 <MTughan> I know, it's just funny.

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01:15 <E-30> yea i am tird but i ahve 17hrs of flying to do tomorow

01:16 <MTughan> Ah, there it is... BURP has me as Michael.

01:16 <E-30> lol

01:17 <MTughan> Changed.

01:17 <E-30> well i am going to get the quad core for that one soon

01:18 <E-30> and keeep it were it is

01:18 <MTughan> So same thoughts as me. Except I'm upgrading from a P4 to a quad-core.

01:18 <E-30> wow thats a big one

01:18 <MTughan> Much bigger jump in BOINC...

01:18 <E-30> taxes come in feb so new box then

01:19 <MTughan> Our federal government just lowered their sales tax, so that's less for me.

01:19 <MTughan> About $10 less, but hey, it's $10!

01:19 <Romulus> swiss cheese with cheese on toast

01:19 <E-30> lol

01:19 <MTughan> Rommie, I'd tell you to shut up, but that sounds good...

01:20 <MTughan> Anyway, I'm gonna play a bit of Mahjongg, and then it's off to bed with me.

01:21 <E-30> cool i think as soon as sp3 comes in i am geing to sleep too

01:24 <Wabbit98> I pray to the shrunning gods who run BOINC that my computer will last another year, and that the projects that I run will have few errors

01:24 <Wabbit98> I am looking at you Milkyway

01:24 <Wabbit98> and GA WU's at TSP

01:25 <E-30> hey wabbit983

01:25 <MTughan> They are there, just his laptop seems to have gone down.

01:25 <MTughan> I believe he's gonna get some external server space sometime soon.

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01:27 <efc2> lost power there

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01:29 <E-30> wow

01:29 <MTughan> On my third game of Mahjongg now... :P

01:30 <E-30> wow thats cool

01:30 <E-30> 75% done on sp3 download

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01:33 <MTughan> Awesome... Fastest game in the records here. 3m30s.

01:34 <Wabbit67> brilllant

01:35 <E-30> yea

01:35 <Wabbit67> now if my computer will only crunch faster

01:35 <MTughan> BOINC!

01:35 <E-30> 81% now

01:35 <E-30> yea

01:35 <MTughan> Make a BOINC project to solve Mahjongg puzzles!

01:36 <E-30> wow fun

01:36 <MTughan> Isn't it? :P

01:36 <E-30> i dont know

01:36 <Romulus> hehe ruby not talking about aps@home being out for a few more screws I could take a Tyan K8W thunder offline for backups weekly

01:37 <Wabbit67> MT isn't that around already?

01:37 <MTughan> Could be, I dunno.

01:37 <Wabbit67> then it must be created

01:37 <Wabbit67> we must have the fastest game ever

01:39 <Wabbit67> come back up NQueens

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01:43 <MTughan> 'lo BB

01:43 <Bad_At_Home> hi MT

01:44 * sethy yawns

01:44 <Tank_Master> crap BB's here

01:44 <sethy> mornin' all

01:44 <Tank_Master> morning?

01:44 <Bad_At_Home> evening

01:44 <sethy> 06:44:13

01:44 <Tank_Master> I was thinkin of heading to bed

01:44 <MTughan> Morning? Guess so... Almost 2AM.

01:44 <sethy> but...

01:44 <Tank_Master> 10:44:67 PM

01:44 <sethy> oic

01:44 <Tank_Master> err, 57*

01:45 <sethy> try //say $time

01:45 <MTughan> $time

01:45 <Tank_Master> 22:45:12

01:45 <MTughan> Not much.

01:45 <sethy> not /say

01:45 <Tank_Master> cool

01:45 <MTughan> /say $time

01:45 <sethy> NOY

01:45 <Tank_Master> you need //

01:45 <MTughan> Still nuthing.

01:45 <sethy> 2 /

01:45 <Tank_Master> not   /

01:45 <MTughan> //say $time

01:45 <MTughan> That's what I'm typing.

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01:45 <MTughan> /say $time

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01:46 <MTughan> That's what comes up.

01:46 <Tank_Master> what client r u using?

01:46 <sethy> MTughan are you using mIRC

01:46 <MTughan> XChat.

01:46 <sethy> BOOM

01:46 <Tank_Master> ahh

01:46 <Tank_Master> jinx!

01:46 <sethy> J!

01:46 <Tank_Master> no, we posted at the same sec

01:47 <MTughan> To you. Not to us.

01:47 <sethy> you must be lagging somewhere

01:47 <Tank_Master> [2008:01:01:22:46:11] <sethy> BOOM

01:47 <Tank_Master> [2008:01:01:22:46:11] <Tank_Master> ahh

01:47 <sethy> [06:46:09] <sethy> BOOM

01:47 <sethy> [06:46:11] <Tank_Master> ahh

01:47 <MTughan> I got sethy's first too.

01:47 <Tank_Master> so its sethy thats laggin

01:48 <sethy> MTughan got me on 09?

01:48 <MTughan> Dunno, can't get XChat to show seconds...

01:48 <Tank_Master> ahh

01:48 <sethy> use mIRC dammit

01:48 <MTughan> Get mIRC for Linux, I can use it.

01:48 <sethy> use mine dammit

01:48 <sethy> wine*

01:48 <Soul_keeper> xchat is better :)

01:49 <sethy> irssi is better

01:49 <sethy> you foolz

01:49 <MTughan> No shareware crap.

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01:49 <Soul_keeper> BitchX

01:49 <MTughan> Colloquy is the best though...

01:49 <FreeLarry> sp3 on this machine now

01:49 <MTughan> Can any of you script in JavaScript?

01:49 <sethy> Larry: mIRC Vs. XChat Vs. irssi

01:49 <sethy> who is victor?

01:49 <Tank_Master> y? freelary?

01:49 <Tank_Master> y?

01:50 <MTughan> sethy: And Colloquy...

01:50 <sethy> fine i'll rephrase my question

01:50 <FreeLarry> don't know sethy use mirc on this machine and xchat on c2d

01:50 <sethy> larry, whats your best irc client

01:50 <MTughan> Hey, telnet could be in there... :P

01:50 <FreeLarry> lol know the most about this one (mirc) but learning things on xchat too

01:51 <FreeLarry> currently cant use xchat as c2d giving me error after reboot

01:51 <sethy> :(

01:51 <Romulus> wonder if someday antique partical board furniture will sell for $20,000 on antique road show

01:51 <MTughan> particle*

01:51 <FreeLarry> INIT: Id "x" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes

01:52 <sethy> stop playing games i say

01:52 <E-30> i used mirc all the time

01:52 <FreeLarry> did use cntl-alt-F2 and logged in as one of the users to restart boinc but gui on F1 still not available

01:53 <sethy> w00t 25% seti in 32 minutes 45 seconds

01:53 <FreeLarry> dang after the 5 minuts gave same error - wonder what i did wrong

01:53 <E-30> wow

01:53 <E-30> sethy what kind of processer do you have there

01:53 <Soul_keeper> hmmm memory is cheap these days

01:54 <sethy> 2.8Ghz Pentium 4 i beleive

01:54 <MTughan> sethy: What socket?

01:54 <sethy> its a new machine so i dont know

01:54 <E-30> sound like a c2d

01:54 <MTughan> Uh, a new Pentium 4?

01:54 <MTughan> C2D sounds more likely.

01:55 <sethy> i dont wana search for link >;o

01:55 <MTughan> Are you sethy on SETI?

01:55 <sethy> goto boincstats >> Search: sethiroth66 >> find host list >> host: Server

01:56 <sethy> i'm sethiroth66 wherever possible

01:56 <sethy> 13489.37 credit

01:56 <sethy> TFFE team

01:57 <FreeLarry> probably socket 775

01:57 <Tank_Master> you havent been running SETI long, have you?

01:57 <Wabbit67> I only run SETI Beta

01:57 <sethy> not on this machine

01:57 <Wabbit67> so I have a legitimate reason to complain

01:57 <MTughan> sethy: Which one?

01:57 <Romulus> <> (at

01:57 <sethy> i did a few cosmology WU's

01:58 <E-30> quad 6600 c2d

01:58 <Tank_Master> cosmoligy is s good project

01:58 <Wabbit67> I liked them

01:58 <Wabbit67> they are on rotation now

01:58 <MTughan> sethy: Wait, Server'03?

01:58 <sethy> the name of the host is server

01:59 <sethy> windows XP OS

01:59 <MTughan> BS doesn't list workstation names.

01:59 <sethy>

01:59 <Romulus> Title: BOINCstats | BOINC combined - Host stats - Detailed statistics for Host ID 3205962 (at

01:59 <sethy> thats me

02:00 <MTughan> You said it's a new machine?

02:00 <sethy> yes

02:00 <MTughan> Wow... I didn't think they sold new P4s anymore.

02:00 <sethy> new in the fact that i recently obtained it

02:00 <MTughan> Ah.

02:00 <sethy> notice i used 'obtained'

02:00 <E-30> lol

02:01 <sethy> but yea just running through on some seti

02:01 <MTughan> Here it is on S@H.

02:01 <Romulus> <> (at

02:01 <E-30> well i cant wate till i get the quad core box up

02:02 <sethy> yes thats the one

02:02 <sethy> one of my friends down south is running a quadcore on for me

02:02 <MTughan> Well, you only have two active hosts on S@H, and one's an AMD. :P

02:02 <E-30> not bad at all for a single core cpu

02:02 <MTughan> The AMD?

02:03 <MTughan> No, it's a single core too...

02:03 <sethy> the amd one downstairs is like

02:03 <sethy> fubar

02:03 <sethy> wont boot up

02:03 <MTughan> Heh, just got its first tasks less than an hour ago...

02:03 <E-30> lol

02:04 <Tank_Master> time to get an intel!

02:04 <MTughan> Oh wow, AMD's been down almost a month now...

02:04 <sethy> My amd?

02:04 <MTughan> Yeah.

02:04 <E-30> he has a quad cire allredy

02:04 <E-30> core

02:04 <Tank_Master> anywho, im off to bed

02:04 <Tank_Master> gn

02:04 <MTughan> Last contact to S@H from the AMD was 12 Dec 2007 10:23:28 UTC.

02:04 <MTughan> Night TM.

02:05 <MTughan> That should be my cue to scram out of here too...

02:05 <sethy> yea i was doing cosmology last

02:05 <FreeLarry> nn MTughan - i like my 10 little hosts

02:05 <Romulus> <> (at

02:05 <MTughan> "This stats table is being updated. Please try again later"

02:05 <sethy> FreeLarry watch out

02:05 <sethy> i'm coming up slowly behind you

02:05 <sethy> 27 in team stats :)

02:05 <FreeLarry> funny showing for me

02:06 <E-30> lol

02:06 <E-30> i am 16 now

02:06 <sethy> i got a higher credit/day than you FL

02:06 <FreeLarry> no doubt sethy

02:07 <MTughan> Wow... I can get sethy's stats, but not FL's...

02:07 <sethy> global stats or host stats?

02:07 <MTughan> Global.

02:07 <E-30> global

02:07 <sethy> i got em

02:07 <E-30> yea i hope i get my quad up soon

02:08 <E-30> well time for restart

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02:08 <FreeLarry> sethy shows you at 27 currently

02:08 <MTughan> Hmm... TSP's last update on BS was about 25 hours ago...

02:08 <sethy> yea thats what i meant

02:08 <sethy> my bad grammar >;o

02:09 <sethy> ;_;

02:09 <FreeLarry> you both have good machines

02:09 <FreeLarry> mines a bit dated as most from the start of sti

02:09 <FreeLarry> seti

02:09 <FreeLarry> then migrated to boinc

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02:11 <sethy> i remember when i use to run seti on the laptop

02:11 <sethy> the classical one

02:11 <sethy> i'd be in the car driving to random places just watching it chunk awany

02:12 <sethy> away *

02:12 <MTughan> Ah, there I am... Couldn't find myself in TSP!

02:13 <MTughan> BS must've just updated. I'm now known as jedirock again.

02:14 <sethy> link?

02:15 <Soul_keeper> what's better  kingston hyperX  or crucial ballistiX  ?

02:15 <MTughan> To what?

02:15 <sethy> your bs

02:15 <MTughan> To all projects? One sec...

02:15 <sethy> your hwole stats

02:16 <MTughan> Oh, still says Michael on there...

02:16 <Romulus> <> (at

02:16 <sethy> fail team?

02:17 <MTughan> Huh?

02:17 <MTughan> &xkcd

02:17 <Romulus>

02:17 <MTughan> &cad

02:17 <Romulus>

02:18 <sethy> &explosm

02:18 <Romulus> sethy: Error: You need to have PySQLite installed to use this plugin.  Download it at <>

02:18 <sethy> >;o

02:19 <sethy> anyway

02:19 <Romulus> Title: - Comics (at

02:19 <MTughan> &alias add explosm echo

02:19 <Romulus> MTughan: The operation succeeded.

02:19 <MTughan> &explosm

02:19 <Romulus>

02:19 <MTughan> There you go.

02:20 <MTughan> lol, nice.

02:20 <sethy> BAK IN TYM

02:20 <MTughan> Haha!

02:21 <Romulus> <> (at

02:29 <sethy> time to randomly browse 4chan

02:31 <MTughan> Gah, I really need to be off to bed... Night.

02:32 <FreeLarry> &nn

02:32 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

02:43 <Soul_keeper>

02:43 <Romulus> <> (at

02:43 <Soul_keeper> that's some cheap memory

02:43 <Soul_keeper> 2GB for like 30 bucks

02:52 <efc2> level 80 female only persuasion spell, hmm

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03:20 <sethy> i hate it when you sneeze and get a nose bleed >;o

03:20 <sethy> ;_;

03:21 <FreeLarry> humm yum update works faster from root terminal

03:22 <FreeLarry> 842 of 2221 updates done

03:22 <sethy> :(

03:22 <FreeLarry> update of all install software sethy

03:23 <sethy> filehippo?

03:23 <FreeLarry> 125 packages

03:23 <FreeLarry> yeah

03:23 <sethy> much love is there

03:23 <FreeLarry> 1 gigabyte dl

03:23 <sethy> much love

03:26 <FreeLarry> will still have a few problems as not all external files available

03:28 <FreeLarry> still not sure what Id "co" supposed to be

03:33 <FreeLarry> over half done ;)

03:34 <FreeLarry> hopefully it will restore my ability to change screen resolution as they went into a default that is way to low and no other resolutions avail

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04:39 <CoderForLife> morning

04:40 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

04:40 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 11.3F / -11.5C | Humidity: 78% | Pressure: 30.31in / 1026.3hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 1.5mph / 2.4km/h ; Today - Cloudy. Snow showers likely this morning...decreasing this afternoon. Total accumulation 1 to 2 inches. Cooler with highs 15 to 20. Northwest winds 15 to 20 mph. Chance of snow 60 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the (1 more message)

04:40 <CoderForLife> &more

04:40 <Romulus> CoderForLife: evening...then becoming mostly clear. Lows 10 to 15. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; Thursday - Sunny. Highs in the upper 20s. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Snow Advisory for Hamilton County in effect until 10:00 AM EST on January 02, 2008;

04:41 <CoderForLife> bbiab

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05:23 <FreeLarry> humm i think i really messed things up this time - uninstalled hal as deamon not coming up and its removing 155 packages

05:24 <CoderForLife> sounds problematic

05:24 <FreeLarry> lol maybe a complete new install in order

05:25 <FreeLarry> will try an install of hal afterwards but not holding a lot of hope

05:28 <CoderForLife> well, regrettably, I need to get ready for w@#% for the first time this year, and after a long vacation

05:28 <CoderForLife> cya later

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05:31 <FreeLarry> tc CoderForLife

05:48 <FreeLarry> argg time for bed - maybe pov can figure out my bad error

05:48 <FreeLarry> but will lave machine off for now

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06:07 <wdsmia> &weather 50265

06:07 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 2F / -17C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 30.79in / 1042hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h ; Today - Sunny. Bitterly cold. High 15 to 20. West wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Very cold. Low zero to 5 above. Temperature steady or slowly rising after midnight. South wind near 10 mph.; Thursday - Sunny. Not as cold. High in the upper 20s. South (1 more message)

06:07 <wdsmia> &more

06:07 <Romulus> wdsmia: wind 10 to 20 mph.;

06:23 <atoponce> so, what's this "network bump" bug, that causes crases with 2alpha?

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06:33 <atoponce> bah. wrong room

06:37 <hawmps> mornin

06:42 <sethy> &explosm

06:42 <Romulus>

06:42 <sethy> lolol

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07:27 <clusty> hey

07:28 <clusty> i know this might be a stupid question, but how can I start the boinc server?

07:28 <clusty> the one that runs in a virtual machine

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08:26 <E-30> hey

08:44 <hawmps> 'lo E

08:45 <E-30> how are you doing

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09:38 <vlazar> how can I enable account creation on a fresh boinc server?\

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09:49 <hawmps> bbiab

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10:03 <Romulus> WB, Boss

10:05 <hawmps> kernel update

10:18 <BadBarbarian> Morning hawmps

10:18 <BadBarbarian> Morning BAK

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10:18 <seth_nothome> anyone online?

10:18 <BadBarbarian> yep

10:18 <zombie67> nope

10:19 <BadBarbarian> maybe

10:19 <seth_nothome> hmm

10:19 <seth_nothome> well

10:19 <seth_nothome> i am in need of some wireless help

10:19 <seth_nothome> netgear

10:20 <seth_nothome> everyone runs away

10:21 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

10:21 <Tank_Master> &more

10:21 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.

10:21 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 38.8F / 3.8C | Humidity: 85% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013.1hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Rain possibly mixed with snow in the morning...then rain likely in the afternoon. Highs 40 to 45. Southeast wind 10 to 15 mph except east 15 to 25 mph with gusts to 35 mph near The Gorge decreasing to 10 to 15 mph in the afternoon.; (1 more message)

10:21 <Tank_Master> &more

10:21 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Tonight - Occasional rain. Lows 35 to 40. Southeast wind 5 to 15 mph except east 10 to 15 mph near The Gorge increasing to 15 to 25 mph with gusts to 35 mph after midnight.; Thursday - Occasional rain. Highs around 45. Southeast wind 10 to 20 except east wind 20 to 30 mph with gusts to 40 mph near The Gorge.;

10:22 <seth_nothome> Tank_Master: know anything on netgear?

10:25 <Tank_Master> somewhat

10:25 <seth_nothome> the wireless on a relatives is not connecting

10:26 <seth_nothome> and he doesnt know the password for the main router

10:26 <seth_nothome> is the password stored on the router or the computer

10:26 <Tank_Master> the default is user: admin passowrd: password

10:26 <seth_nothome> but he changed it

10:27 <Tank_Master> ahh

10:27 <Tank_Master> he needs to be able to get in there to find out what the encription key is

10:27 <seth_nothome> but he changed itok

10:27 <seth_nothome> like

10:27 <seth_nothome> but we need the password to get the encryption

10:27 <seth_nothome> ;_;

10:29 <zombie67> if he has physical access to the router, it may be possible to reset it to factory settings.

10:31 <seth_nothome> how

10:32 <zombie67> no clue.  what model number?

10:32 <Tank_Master> theres usually a reset button on the router

10:33 <Tank_Master> holding it down for several seconds will reset everything

10:33 <seth_nothome> 834g

10:33 <Tank_Master> youll see it go off then back on

10:33 <seth_nothome> dg834gv3 model number

10:33 <Tank_Master> but I dont know if that will reset the PW

10:33 <seth_nothome> reset button on netgear?

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10:33 <seth_nothome> pov _o/

10:34 <zombie67> hi pov

10:34 <seth_nothome> so how to reset the router to factory default

10:34 <Tank_Master> its generally extreamly small

10:35 <Tank_Master> use a paperclip to press the button

10:35 <Tank_Master> hold untill you see it power off then back on

10:35 <zombie67>

10:35 <BadBarbarian> hold button down for 15 sec.

10:35 <Romulus> <> (at

10:36 <seth_nothome> ok brb

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10:42 <zombie67> looks like it worked

10:43 <zombie67> pov, any more imp work coming up any time soon?

10:43 <Tank_Master> im off to work, c-ya later

10:43 <zombie67> c-ya

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12:19 <sethy> >;o

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12:48 <hawmps> still snowing...

12:49 <efc> &weather 30625

12:49 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 32F / 0C | Humidity: 38% | Pressure: 30.38in / 1029hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h ; Rest of Today - Sunny...windy. Highs around 40. Northwest winds 15 to 25 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 18. Northwest winds 5 to 15 mph. Wind chill readings around 10.; Thursday - Sunny. Highs in the mid 40s. Light northwest winds shifting to the (1 more message)

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12:50 <linux_stu> i am having trouble returning results

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12:53 <zombie67> tsp is back up

12:53 <linux_stu> i have 3 results to return to world community grid, but i am unable to

12:53 <linux_stu> here is my message log

12:53 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at

12:54 <linux_stu> i marked a line in there, you can't miss it

12:55 <linux_stu> it keeps saying that it can't parse the scheduler reply

12:56 <linux_stu> here is my

12:56 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at

12:57 <zombie67> looks like a problem with the wcg server

12:57 <PovAddict> linux_stu: *don't* paste the sched_request

12:58 <PovAddict> oh I think I know the reason

12:58 <PovAddict> but you could help debug

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13:01 <linux_stu> ok

13:01 <linux_stu> i will help debug

13:01 <linux_stu> PovAddict, is there sensitive info in that file?

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13:02 <PovAddict> on the request, there is your account key

13:02 <PovAddict> I see nothing sensitive on the reply

13:02 <PovAddict> well, maybe email_hash, but I don't think anyone would bother to bruteforce the hash to get your real email address

13:02 <linux_stu> o ok

13:03 <PovAddict> are you on windows?

13:03 <PovAddict> ...stupid question

13:03 * PovAddict notes nickname

13:03 <linux_stu> k

13:03 <PovAddict> save this on a file called cc_config.xml on your BOINC directory:

13:03 <linux_stu> no, linux

13:03 <Romulus> Title: XML pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at

13:04 <linux_stu> k

13:07 <PovAddict> now go to the manager

13:07 <PovAddict> Advanced menu, Re-read configuration file

13:16 <zombie67> LHC has more work today!

13:16 <PovAddict> o.0

13:17 <zombie67> some work was sent out last night, with 8k in WIP this AM.  Now 21k in WIP.

13:19 <PovAddict> I have 4 in cache

13:19 <PovAddict> one just finished (15 seconds!)

13:19 <linux_stu> PovAddict, "Missing start tag in cc_config.xml"

13:19 <PovAddict> another ready to report

13:19 <PovAddict> linux_stu:

13:19 <PovAddict> &wrong

13:19 <Romulus> PovAddict:

13:20 <linux_stu> !!! yay

13:20 <PovAddict> you probably pasted it wrong :)

13:20 <linux_stu> pasted what?

13:20 <PovAddict> the xml contents

13:21 <sethy> in soviet russia, wrong probebly pasted it you

13:21 <sethy> and i cant spell again ;_;

13:21 <linux_stu> You're the one who pasted the file on pastebin PovAddict

13:21 <PovAddict> yep and you probably did something wrong when copying from pastebin into the file

13:22 <linux_stu> i checked

13:23 <linux_stu> i didn't see anything.  my copy/paste has a habit off eating up the first few characters, so the first time i got the error i checked and noticed the leading < was missing, so i added it in.  but i guess that wasn't the only problem

13:24 <linux_stu> you're right

13:24 <linux_stu> it ate up more than just <

13:24 <linux_stu> it ate <cc_

13:24 <PovAddict> heh

13:25 <PovAddict> zombie67: finished all my LHC in 1 minute each...

13:25 <PovAddict> fast crashes

13:25 <PovAddict> didn't give me more :<

13:26 <linux_stu> i reread the config file and retried communications

13:27 <linux_stu> still getting the problem about being able to parse the scheduler reply

13:27 <PovAddict> but it should have printed craploads more details

13:27 <linux_stu> here is the recent message log

13:27 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at

13:28 <PovAddict> hmm or not

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13:30 <linux_stu> geez

13:32 <linux_stu> hmmmmmmmm

13:33 <zombie67> pov:  some of the LHC WUs are super short like that

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13:33 <zombie67> I have several OS installed on a machine.  Where in linux does one set the default OS to boot?

13:34 <PovAddict> you set that on the bootloader

13:34 <zombie67> uh

13:34 <linux_stu> zombie67, do u use grub or lilo bootloader?

13:34 <zombie67> there is a file I edited to set the default

13:34 <zombie67> I want to change it again, but cannot recall.

13:34 <linux_stu> /boot/grub/menu.lst probably

13:34 <zombie67> ah

13:35 <Romulus> law and order" in baghdad - civilian deaths down 800% - but no baffle

13:35 <zombie67> that sounds right.  thanks

13:35 <linux_stu> yw

13:35 <desti> Oil prices soared to $100 a barrel Wednesday for the first time ever, reaching that milestone amid an unshakeable view that global demand for oil and petroleum products will continue to outstrip supplies.

13:36 <zombie67> the supplies are there, but artificially restricted

13:38 <efc> mostly commodity market speculation keeping it that high

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13:52 <zombie67> bbl

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14:09 <linux_stu> PovAddict, could the reason that making those changes to my config file not yielding more verbose messages be caused by boinc client version? i am running 5.8.15

14:10 <PovAddict> it did print more messages

14:10 <linux_stu> o

14:10 <linux_stu> ok

14:10 <PovAddict> but I expected something more useful...

14:10 <linux_stu> i c

14:10 <Romulus> If you do it for 10 or so

14:11 <linux_stu> is romulus a bot and a person?  or is he just a bot?

14:11 <MTughan> Bot.

14:11 <MTughan> &markov

14:11 <Romulus> TheGasGiant: and i would lose is my new notebook

14:17 <wraund> im trying to communicate with SETI@home but its not going through

14:17 <wraund> anyone else with this?

14:18 <PovAddict> lots of servers down

14:18 <wraund> :)

14:18 <wraund> whoa

14:18 <wraund> typo

14:18 <wraund> :(

14:18 <MTughan> Site's up at least.

14:18 <PovAddict>

14:18 <Romulus> Title: Server status page (at

14:18 <wraund> dang it i have 4 due to report

14:18 <MTughan> Ah...

14:19 <wraund> holy crap...

14:19 <wraund> thats a lot of servers down

14:19 <PovAddict> seems to be the weekly database downtime

14:19 <MTughan> wraund: As long as they don't expire soon, you're fine.

14:19 <wraund> er they expire...

14:19 <MTughan> Yeah, makes sense...

14:19 <wraund> lol 22 feb

14:19 <wraund> no i meant i was gonna provide a date

14:19 <MTughan> Yeah, you got plenty of time.

14:23 <linux_stu> should this line be at the bottom of    Content-type: text/plain   ?

14:23 <PovAddict> yeah that's my "theory"

14:25 <linux_stu> o

14:26 <linux_stu> ok even when i take it out (which i probably shouldn't do), it comes back.

14:26 <PovAddict> well, every time you communicate, WCG keeps returning that

14:28 <wraund> woah those servers have some pretty nice specs..

14:28 <MTughan> Servers do.

14:28 <MTughan> Consider they may have to process hundreds or thousands of requests a second.

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14:30 <wraund> true but still very good spec

14:30 <MTughan> For sure.

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14:31 <MTughan> 'lo yoyo

14:31 <yoyo[RKN]> hi

14:31 <MTughan> Hey, what specs does your server(s) have?

14:32 <yoyo[RKN]> don't know, its a Linux box

14:32 <yoyo[RKN]> its a small system

14:46 <Saenger> is it your puter or the usual rechenkraft server?

14:49 <yoyo[RKN]> it is the rkn server

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15:00 <MTughan> 'lo mw

15:20 <FreeLarry> morn all

15:20 <efc> Moo

15:26 <FreeLarry> well plea for help from PovAddict on sidebar hope he sees it

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15:52 <MTughan> Hey PovAddict: Why aren't you on #tsp?

15:52 <PovAddict> because it's not on my autojoin list

15:52 <PovAddict> btw I only recently discovered pidgin has such thing as autojoin

15:52 <MTughan> Ah. lol

15:53 <zombie67> yoyo:  will evo have mac apps?

15:54 <MTughan> I think that's what he's been getting me to test, no?

15:54 <yoyo[RKN]> don't know yet

15:54 <MTughan> Oh, BTW: My Mac won't be available until sometime next week most likely.

15:59 * dererk waves around

16:00 * MTughan ignores dererk

16:00 <MTughan> :P

16:00 <dererk> :O

16:02 * xcamel_away is back.

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16:04 <MTughan> &math calc 16 ** 4

16:04 <Romulus> MTughan: 65536

16:04 <MTughan> That's a few...

16:05 <PovAddict> &math calc 18 + 9

16:05 <Romulus> PovAddict: 27

16:05 <PovAddict> &math calc 18 + 9 - 24

16:05 <Romulus> PovAddict: 3

16:06 <FreeLarry> time for me to away for a bit

16:06 <FreeLarry> bbl

16:15 <Tank_Master> xcam!

16:15 <Tank_Master> r u there?

16:18 <Tank_Master> xcamel:

16:21 <xcamel> I is here

16:23 <Tank_Master> can you please unbann my work nicks?

16:23 <Tank_Master> you banned them during the depspid run

16:23 <Tank_Master> TMatWork and TM-Work

16:26 <xcamel> I just have to remember how to do it...

16:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o xcamel

16:26 <MTughan> /mode #boinc -b <hostmask>

16:26 <PovAddict> if you know exactly what hostmask is banned...

16:27 *** xcamel sets mode: -b TMatWork!*@*

16:27 *** xcamel sets mode: -b TM-Work!*@*

16:27 <Tank_Master> sweet, thx ;)

16:27 <xcamel> see if that works...

16:28 <Tank_Master> brb

16:28 <xcamel> no more spamming with parts/joins though

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16:29 <TMatWork> sweet

16:30 <TMatWork> thx ;)

16:30 <TMatWork> Ive lowered the max # of depspid WUs per host, so hopefully next time it wont be an issue

16:31 <TMatWork> ill bbl

16:47 <FreeLarry> b

17:05 <quail> now this is kewl >>>

17:05 <Romulus> <$T> (at

17:05 <quail> &web title

17:05 <Romulus> <$T> (at

17:05 <Romulus> quail: Brickshelf Gallery

17:05 <PovAddict> whoa

17:05 <PovAddict> that's huge

17:05 <PovAddict> wonder if they have ldraw model for it?

17:07 <FreeLarry> looks like the models in the naval museum in bremerton

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17:10 * quail wonders how many bit of lego was used to build it

17:11 <FreeLarry> lol a factory output for one day

17:11 <FreeLarry> well c2d getting ready for big wipe reload

17:12 <FreeLarry> this time will try to figure out how not to install selinux

17:13 * quail also wonders how much it cost to build

17:14 <FreeLarry> more than i make in a year

17:14 <PovAddict> I remember a robotic lego machine that built little lego cars

17:14 <MTughan> How about a model of the Death Star? $400 CDN.

17:14 <PovAddict> I counted 12 RCX controllers on the video...

17:15 <MTughan> Each RCX costs about $100-150.

17:15 <PovAddict> exactly..

17:15 <MTughan> &math 12 * 150

17:15 <Romulus> MTughan: 1800

17:15 <PovAddict> and for a reason they needed so many RCXs

17:15 <PovAddict> to control so many motors/sensors

17:15 <PovAddict> so add motor/sensor price

17:15 <MTughan> Heh, we're talking about Lego, and I just got the Lego catalogue.

17:16 <PovAddict> I want an ldraw model of that ship!

17:16 <MTughan> lol

17:16 <MTughan> There you go... Metre high model of the Eiffel Tower, $300 CDN.

17:17 <MTughan> I want to see a lifesize model of the Eiffel Tower... :P

17:18 <PovAddict> LEGO sells "bulk boxes"

17:18 <PovAddict> packs with a hundred identical pieces; mostly for the basic bricks

17:19 <MTughan> Eh, NXT set is still more. $350 CDN.

17:19 <quail> PovAddict: is there a video?

17:19 <PovAddict> 50 2x4 bricks for usd 7

17:19 <MTughan> lol

17:20 <MTughan> Death Star, $400 CDN. 3449 pieces.

17:20 <FreeLarry> pov what language do you use normally?

17:21 <MTughan> Holy crap! Collector's model of the Millennium Falcon, $680 CDN!

17:21 <MTughan> 5,195 pieces...

17:21 <PovAddict> FreeLarry: is that referring to human or computer languages?

17:22 <FreeLarry> human - adding language support on install

17:22 <PovAddict> well I just use english over ssh

17:22 <PovAddict> but maybe adding language supports installs the word lists

17:22 <PovAddict> which are handy sometimes... so add spanish as well

17:22 <FreeLarry> could be i don't know - ahh what the heck the whole list going in

17:23 <MTughan> Here it is...

17:23 <Romulus> <> (at

17:23 <MTughan> That thing is massive...

17:23 <MTughan> About 3 feet across.

17:23 <PovAddict> !

17:23 <PovAddict> I wouldn't assemble that alone

17:23 <MTughan> lol

17:24 <PovAddict> I mean, I can, I would take long

17:24 <PovAddict> but with such a big model, seems like something fun to do in group :)

17:24 <MTughan> Don't get any ideas. :P

17:24 <quail> MTughan: it AUD 979.99 for that

17:24 <FreeLarry> humm didn't see anything to preclude selinux

17:24 <PovAddict> however I won't pay for it :)

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17:25 <MTughan> There you go. :P

17:25 <FreeLarry> added almost everything - skipped the kde stuff

17:25 <quail> MTughan: that the Millennium Falcon that is

17:26 <FreeLarry> now the long stuff formatting the file system

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17:28 * FreeLarry sees new year = new bills two arrived in mail today

17:28 <FreeLarry> got a laugh at estimate for labor to install upstairs lamenate flooring almost 6000

17:28 <FreeLarry> a thousand for overhead and taxes

17:29 <FreeLarry> not including material which was < 2000

17:29 <efc> we're looking at doing that too

17:30 <FreeLarry> that was for a little less than 700 sqft

17:31 <efc> This is the Pergo type stuff (might be a diff brand)

17:32 <FreeLarry> probable - i got the cheap stuff at 1.6 a sqft and padding cost 5.5 a sqft

17:32 <quail> that aiircraft carrier cost 10,000 pound for 300,000 plastic bricks

17:33 <FreeLarry> from the estimate it would appear i was buying all the tools needed at least twice

17:33 <PovAddict> lol

17:34 <FreeLarry> so if you do do it efc recommend if your physically able --- DIY

17:35 <FreeLarry> total labor i paid the wifes friends - including painting and moving items was 1600

17:36 <FreeLarry> another 400 in tools

17:36 <FreeLarry> so total job cost <4000

17:37 <FreeLarry> if i remember pergo cost at last 3.5 sqft

17:39 <efc> It would be my dad hehe

17:39 <efc> He did a small room already

17:39 <xcamel> re-hi

17:40 * FreeLarry has done 2 floors around 800 spft each

17:40 <FreeLarry> sqft

17:40 <FreeLarry> wb xcamel

17:41 <FreeLarry> efc sounds like your able - at least help your dad do it

17:41 <efc> Oh I'm sure I'll get drafted

17:42 <FreeLarry> yeah install starting up finally finished the format

17:44 <FreeLarry> my boy wants me to install flooring in his house but doesn't want to help

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17:44 <FreeLarry> so have dug hole at end of the botom of my to do list and put that request there

17:45 <FreeLarry> 1316 packages for install

17:45 <xcamel> the news types of laminate flooring are fairly easy to do..

17:46 <xcamel> er new types even...

17:46 <FreeLarry> that they are xcamel

17:47 <FreeLarry> a little paitience and a driving block are nice tho

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17:47 <xcamel> I would rather see them glued down in most cases, but sometimes you can't.

17:47 <xcamel> 'lo deti

17:47 <efc> Don't they need to float?

17:47 <FreeLarry> thats what the padding for

17:47 <FreeLarry> you don't nail, glue etc when you lay them

17:48 <FreeLarry> and yes 15 to 30 lb roofing felt works for padding for lowcost solution

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17:48 <FreeLarry> the high priced one i used was for upstairs to reduce walking sounds

17:49 <efc> The stuff we put in felt mooshy for a while but its better now

17:49 <efc> Still doesn't feel like a rock hard wood floor, but I guess thats ok

17:51 <FreeLarry> my wood floors don't feel rock hard - used 30 lb felt under them

17:51 <xcamel> I put down more than a few thousand feet of real oak in my time

17:51 <FreeLarry> lol thats a lot 500 sqft enough for me

17:57 <xcamel> my knees and back remind me often enough..

17:58 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:58 <MTughan> 'lo Doug

17:59 * FreeLarry can understand xcamel reminders

18:00 <FreeLarry> young man body needed for labor and old man knowledge to get it done right

18:01 <xcamel> too soon old, too late smart.

18:02 <FreeLarry> yeah

18:02 <FreeLarry> still waiting for the smart here

18:02 <CoderForLife> speaking of...

18:02 <CoderForLife> hello

18:02 <FreeLarry> afternoon CoderForLife

18:02 <PovAddict> erm

18:03 <xcamel> 'lo Don

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18:03 <CoderForLife> just blew the snow off the driveway in 45 minutes

18:03 <xcamel> and Doug

18:03 <bryanUC> I have a wget question - is there a way (or with lynx) to prevent the creation of the emtpy files?

18:03 <CoderForLife> hello FreeLarry wdsmia xcamek PovAddict

18:03 <bryanUC> in a cron run

18:03 <PovAddict> are you recursively downloading?

18:03 <MTughan> 'lo CFL

18:04 <Romulus> O_O It's working for the System Builder channel.

18:04 <bryanUC> nope, just a repeated run every minute

18:04 <CoderForLife> and what the heck - hello bryanUC

18:04 <bryanUC> hi CoderForLife

18:04 <bryanUC> you must have had more snow than we did if you needed a snow blower

18:04 <bryanUC> we got just about an inch

18:04 <CoderForLife> oops - hello xcamel

18:04 <MTughan> CoderForLife: Away status.

18:04 <PovAddict> if [ ! -s file-just-downloaded ]; then rm file-just-downloaded; fi

18:04 <CoderForLife> keep me straight

18:05 <bryanUC> I was under the (apparently wrong) impression that there was a flag

18:05 <PovAddict> maybe there is

18:05 <CoderForLife> we got about 4 inches of snow last night

18:09 <xcamel> got about 4 times that total..

18:09 <bryanUC> ah....hopefully --delete-after does that

18:09 <bryanUC> :)

18:09 <bryanUC> thank POV

18:09 <bryanUC> thanks, that is

18:16 <CoderForLife> you always do it up big, xcamel

18:18 <FreeLarry> pov side please

18:21 <xcamel> CFL >>

18:21 <Romulus> <> (at

18:22 <CoderForLife> reading - and doing two other chats =)

18:23 <CoderForLife> right-o xcamel - I am impressed with how Fred has handled himself

18:25 <CoderForLife> the other Limbaugh said today "In 2008, we need a candidate who is willing to say he's a conservative and espouse those principles, or we are going to lose big."

18:30 <xcamel> I don't think iowa is that big a deal... but it will be fun to watch all the spin..

18:31 <wdsmia> not from where im sitting

18:35 <xcamel> APOD >>

18:35 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2008 January 2 - A Galaxy is not a Comet (at

18:35 <xcamel> sorry, Doug..

18:36 <wdsmia> I will be glad when its over and there out of here

18:38 <xcamel> Iowa: Once you get past all the corn, it's really colorado.

18:39 <wdsmia> theres enough satalite trucks blocking the downtown streets to start your own seti project

18:43 <xcamel> I bet

18:44 <xcamel> the GE linux version is working very nicely now...

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18:52 <CoderForLife> off to sit with the wife - cya folks

18:53 <wdsmia> cya Don

19:02 <FreeLarry> tc don

19:02 <FreeLarry> folder is shared on this machine but not sure how to set up samba to see

19:02 <PovAddict>

19:04 <FreeLarry> ahh i can see it in network places just browsing to it

19:04 <FreeLarry> its read only on this machine so wonder how to get to linux

19:06 <FreeLarry> that was easy just copied to desktop for now

19:08 <FreeLarry> your link is still dl'ing

19:08 <MTughan> That's his 'net connection.

19:08 <FreeLarry> or mine

19:08 <MTughan> Also that that image is still rendering.

19:09 <PovAddict> I'm torrenting

19:09 <PovAddict> MTughan: no, that one is done

19:09 <PovAddict> it's green2 still going

19:09 <MTughan> Ah, that's the one I'm currently looking at...

19:10 <FreeLarry> a bit dark

19:10 <FreeLarry> but looks alright for render

19:11 <MTughan>

19:11 <Romulus> <> (at

19:11 <PovAddict> can't be too nitpicky, took 25 minutes

19:11 <PovAddict> new one with soft shadows already at 52 minutes and still going

19:11 <MTughan> What percent?

19:11 <PovAddict> 81

19:11 <MTughan> &math calc 52 / .81

19:11 <Romulus> MTughan: 64.1975308642

19:12 <MTughan> There's your expected time.

19:12 <PovAddict> average of 201 pixels per second

19:12 <PovAddict> hey I had written a POV-Win GUI extension that showed expected time

19:12 <MTughan> Yeah, wouldn't be hard to do the logic.

19:13 <MTughan> &math calc 52 / .81 - 52

19:13 <Romulus> MTughan: 12.1975308642

19:13 <PovAddict> using that lame extrapolation of (done pixels / elapsed time *  total pixels)

19:13 <PovAddict> was tricky to get render pause working

19:13 <PovAddict> since I calculated 'elapsed time' by saving the time when the render had started

19:13 <MTughan> Hehe.

19:13 <PovAddict> but I shouldn't keep time counting during pause

19:14 <MTughan> Soft shadows one is looking great...

19:15 <FreeLarry> can see the top a little better

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19:16 <MTughan> 'lo BB

19:17 <BadBarbarian> 'lo /

19:17 <BadBarbarian> MT

19:17 <PovAddict> WTF

19:17 <PovAddict> check green2

19:17 <MTughan> Trying to escape the Enter? lol

19:17 <PovAddict> some part of the image got screwed up

19:18 <MTughan> You mean the shadow around the left edge of the ball?

19:18 <PovAddict> yeah

19:18 <MTughan> What is that ball anyway?

19:19 <PovAddict> there is one just like that on the other side

19:19 <PovAddict> it's just for the other balls to fall on

19:19 <PovAddict>

19:19 <Romulus> <> (at

19:21 <FauxFaux> It angers me when the proof-by-elimination projects refuse to hand out a significant number of work-units. I'm looking at you, sha-1 collision search graz.

19:21 <FauxFaux> Angers me nearly enough to write a message on irc, that's how muc it angers me.

19:22 <PovAddict> but not enough to complain on *their* forums?

19:22 <FauxFaux> And, while I have the floor, people suck for not writing x64 safe code.

19:22 <FauxFaux> Apparently not.

19:22 <Romulus> that one starting on it I have the app.

19:23 <FauxFaux> That made perfect sense. :)

19:24 <PovAddict> omg!

19:24 <PovAddict> MTughan: that strange artifact is reproducible!

19:24 <PovAddict> somewhat

19:24 <PovAddict> not identical garbage, but similar, and on the same place

19:24 <xcamel> you created a graphic black hole...

19:25 <PovAddict> looks like it

19:25 <FauxFaux> Next time the project is up, I might go bitch on their forums!

19:25 <PovAddict> big image almost done

19:25 <PovAddict> last lines going much faster

19:25 <xcamel> damn... tems dropped like a a-bomb

19:26 <xcamel> 2F right now..

19:26 <PovAddict> same here

19:26 <PovAddict> we got some rain

19:26 <PovAddict> "feels like" reached 40C on the afternoon, temperature is now 25C thx to rain

19:26 <FauxFaux> xcamel: /ouch/

19:27 <FauxFaux> It's been 1 (C), feels like -4 here since about 2pm, now 12:30.

19:27 <wdsmia> -11C here and its a warm up

19:28 <MTughan>

19:28 <Romulus> <> (at

19:28 <MTughan> Faster version of the finished one on Pov's comp.

19:29 <PovAddict> my partial renders are now coming out all identical

19:30 <PovAddict> dinner ->

19:34 <xcamel> had chicken enchiladas for dinner - yummy...

19:35 <xcamel> math convert 2 F to C

19:35 <xcamel> &math convert 2 F to C

19:35 <Romulus> xcamel: -16.6666666667

19:43 <xcamel> too damned cold..

19:46 <MTughan> lol

19:50 <xcamel> anyway.. had the first two dog sled teams over tonight (afternoon)

19:51 <xcamel> hope they had fun..

19:51 <xcamel> luckily, this blast will only last about one day.. back to 40 or above on friday.

19:52 <xcamel> I'll take a "warm white winter" any day...

19:56 <FreeLarry> guess i need to go to store and get some blank dvd's

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19:59 <xcamel> r or rw?

19:59 <MTughan> And + or -?

20:00 <xcamel> wal*mart has 15pk maxell rw's on the cheap at the moment

20:06 <PovAddict> &markov stats

20:07 <Romulus> PovAddict: Firsts: 25161; Lasts: 43035; Pairs: 410749; Follows: 770619

20:08 <xcamel> finally getting vlc/linux

20:20 <Soul_keeper> lol i've actually started to move down in ranks on boinc

20:20 <Soul_keeper> i don't have the computing power anymore ...

20:20 <Soul_keeper> hopefully i'll win the lottery tonight

20:21 <xcamel> I'm thinking of getting more..

20:21 <xcamel> dunno why...

20:21 <Soul_keeper> i can't really afford more

20:21 <Soul_keeper> it's like sleeping with a hot model

20:21 <Soul_keeper> i think about it constantly, but then reality hits

20:21 <PovAddict> lottery is a tax for people who don't understand maths

20:22 <Soul_keeper> hey leave my maths outta this !

20:24 <xcamel> lottery is income tax for morons.

20:25 <Soul_keeper> nah i had this all figured out: if i win the lotto  it's at 27 million,  i'll hafta give atleast 1 million per parent, plus another 5+ on a trophy wife, and maybe .5-1 million on a house ...   plus like half of it to taxes, that'll leave me with like 5 million or so ...

20:26 <Soul_keeper> i could spend a few grand on pc's then invest the rest :)

20:27 <PovAddict> what are your chances of winning?

20:30 <Soul_keeper> not as good as getting struck by lighning or being killed by a vending machine ...

20:38 <xcamel> hmmm.. 2 core 2 quad q6600 2.4g boxes for $1748 (no OS)

20:38 <xcamel> 2gb memory each

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20:51 <xcamel>

20:51 <Romulus> <> (at

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21:00 <xcamel> any comments?

21:01 <MTughan> Small case...

21:02 <MTughan> Other than that, I just have a gripe with onboard video.

21:06 <xcamel> they offer nvidia cards to go with them

21:07 <MTughan> Planning on getting one?

21:08 <MTughan> With a graphics card, I mean.

21:08 <xcamel> 2 - with core 2 quads

21:19 <xcamel> damn.. dropped to -1F

21:20 <MTughan> Off for the weekend... Bye.

21:20 <xcamel> I guess they weren't kidding..

21:20 <xcamel> have fun..

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21:24 <xcamel> &weather 12074

21:24 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: -1.4F / -18.6C | Humidity: 70% | Pressure: 30.29in / 1025.6hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Overnight - Mostly clear. Much colder with lows around zero. Northwest winds around 10 mph.; Thursday - Mostly sunny. Colder with highs around 14. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Thursday Night - Partly cloudy. Cold with lows around 4 above. Southwest (1 more message)

21:24 <xcamel> &more

21:24 <Romulus> xcamel: winds around 5 mph...becoming south around 5 mph after midnight.;

21:26 <xcamel> burrrrr...

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21:31 <FreeLarry> &weather 98366

21:31 <Romulus> FreeLarry: Temperature: 43F / 6C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.88in / 1012hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h ; Tonight - Rain likely...mainly south. Lows 35 to 40. Southeast wind 10 to 15 mph.; Thursday - Occasional rain. Breezy. Highs in the 40s. Southeast wind 10 to 15 mph shifting to the south 15 to 25 mph in the afternoon.; Thursday Night - Rain in the (1 more message)

21:32 <FreeLarry> &more

21:32 <Romulus> FreeLarry: evening...then cloudy with a chance of rain after midnight. Breezy. Lows around 40. South wind 15 to 25 mph decreasing to around 10 mph after midnight.;

21:32 <FreeLarry> yup winter

21:32 <FreeLarry> so now to jinx myself and say snows over for the year down here

21:33 <FreeLarry> just black ice conditions for next couple of months

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21:41 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

21:41 <xcamel> lol - warm there..

21:41 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 45.6F / 7.6C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 29.82in / 1009.7hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Occasional rain. Lows 35 to 40. Southeast wind 5 to 15 mph except east 10 to 15 mph near the Columbia Gorge increasing to 15 to 25 mph with gusts to 35 mph after midnight.; Thursday - Occasional rain. Highs around 45. Southeast wind (1 more message)

21:41 <Tank_Master> &more

21:41 <Romulus> Tank_Master: 10 to 20 except east wind 20 to 30 mph with gusts to 40 mph near The Gorge.; Thursday Night - Rain. Lows around 40. Southeast wind 10 to 20 mph except east 15 to 30 mph near The Gorge.;

21:42 <bryanUC> &weather 43016

21:42 <Romulus> bryanUC: Temperature: 11F / -12C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 30.69in / 1039hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy until early morning...then becoming partly cloudy. Scattered flurries until early morning. Lows 5 to 10 above. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; Thursday - Partly sunny. Highs in the upper 20s. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Thursday (1 more message)

21:42 <bryanUC> ooo up a degree

21:42 <bryanUC> &more

21:42 <Romulus> bryanUC: Night - Clear. Lows 10 to 15. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.;

21:42 <Tank_Master> toasty there, buryan

21:42 <bryanUC> yeah

21:42 <bryanUC> I think we hit 19F today

21:42 <Tank_Master> lol

21:42 <xcamel> every state will have temps below freezing tonight

21:42 <xcamel> even FL

21:43 <Tank_Master> and hawaii?

21:43 <xcamel> on top of the big island

21:43 <Tank_Master> (the answer to that is yes)

21:43 <Bad_At_Home> key west i dont think so lol

21:44 <Bad_At_Home> northern fla maybe lol....

21:44 <xcamel> &weather Key West

21:44 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 56F / 13C | Humidity: 67% | Pressure: 30.39in / 1029hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 25mph / 41km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy...very windy...and cold. Lows 45 to 50. North winds near 25 mph.; Thursday - Becoming partly cloudy. Windy and quite cool. Highs in the lower 60s. North to northeast winds 20 to 25 mph.; Thursday Night - Variable (1 more message)

21:44 <xcamel> that's pretty damn cold for them...

21:44 <bryanUC> heh..."and cold"

21:44 <Bad_At_Home> yep

21:45 <bryanUC> 45 to 50 would be "unseasonably warm"

21:45 <bryanUC> here

21:45 <xcamel> just hit -2 here

21:45 <bryanUC> lol

21:45 <Bad_At_Home> 40 is the lowest temp ever recorded in key west

21:45 <xcamel> 3 dog night

21:46 <xcamel> &weather Barrow, AK

21:46 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: -9F / -23C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 29.71in / 1006hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 28mph / 44km/h ; Tonight - Snow likely. Blowing snow. Less than an inch snow accumulation. Lows 10 below to 15 below zero. Northeast winds 25 to 30 mph.; Thursday - Snow likely. Blowing snow. Less than an inch snow accumulation. Highs 5 below to 10 below zero. Northeast (1 more message)

21:46 <xcamel> heat wave..

21:46 <Bad_At_Home> i only have one but shes a wolf hound

21:47 <xcamel> ok - a big dong night

21:47 <Bad_At_Home> &weather prudelol

21:47 <xcamel> ok - a big dog night (sheesh)

21:47 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Error: Could not find weather information.  (This may be a bug. If you think it is, please file a bug report at < acker/?func=add&group_id=58965&atid=489447>.)

21:48 <Bad_At_Home> opps

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21:48 <xcamel> too bad they don't live longer

21:48 <Bad_At_Home> &weather prudhoe bay ak

21:49 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Temperature: -2F / -19C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.50in / 999hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 29mph / 46km/h ; Tonight - Snow likely. Blowing snow reducing visibility to less than a half mile in the evening. Snow accumulation less than 1 inch. Lows 5 below to 10 below zero. Northeast winds 25 to 30 mph. Gusts 35 mph in the evening.; Thursday - Snow likely. (1 more message)

21:49 <Bad_At_Home> shes 4

21:49 <xcamel> another heat wave

21:49 <Bad_At_Home> &more

21:49 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Blowing snow. Snow accumulation less than 1 inch. Highs 5 below to 10 below zero. Northeast winds 20 to 25 mph.; Thursday Night - Mostly cloudy with flurries. Lows around 15 below. Northeast winds 15 to 20 mph.; Blowing/Drifting Snow Advisory for North Slope County in effect until 9:00 PM AKST on January 02, 2008;

21:49 <Bad_At_Home> warmer than i thought

21:49 <PovAddict> new render coming soon at

21:49 <Romulus> <> (at

21:49 <Bad_At_Home> snowing and cloudy

21:50 <Tank_Master> its just an X

21:50 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: refresh

21:50 <Tank_Master> its drizzeling and misty, with some fog here

21:50 <Tank_Master> bigger X

21:51 <PovAddict> lol IE sux

21:51 <Tank_Master> neither 32bit or 64bit IE shows it

21:51 <PovAddict> it's a partial image

21:51 <PovAddict> firefox shows it fine

21:52 <Tank_Master> huh

21:52 <Tank_Master> so its not a normal .png file?

21:52 <xcamel> &weather Nakhodka RU

21:52 <PovAddict> IE won't show it till it's done, due to its stupidness

21:52 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: Could not find weather information.  (This may be a bug. If you think it is, please file a bug report at < acker/?func=add&group_id=58965&atid=489447>.)

21:52 <xcamel> I would have been amazed if that one came up

21:55 <PovAddict> (won't auto-update)

21:55 <Romulus> <> (at

21:55 <bryanUC> &weather KVVO

21:56 <Romulus> bryanUC: Error: Could not find weather information.  (This may be a bug. If you think it is, please file a bug report at < acker/?func=add&group_id=58965&atid=489447>.)

21:56 <bryanUC> &weather VVO

21:56 <Romulus> bryanUC: Temperature: -2°F / -19°C | Humidity: 71% | Pressure: 30.06in / 1018hPa | Conditions: Smoke | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h | Updated: 12:00 PM VLAT; Scattered Clouds. High:19 F. / -7 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:1 F. / -17 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:24 F. / -4 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:6 F. / -14 C.; Clear. High:21 F. / -6 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:10 F. / -12 (1 more message)

21:58 <xcamel> laterz..

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21:59 <Tank_Master> tc xcam

22:00 <PovAddict> 62%...

22:00 <PovAddict> updated -fix image

22:03 <Tank_Master> works

22:04 <PovAddict> I opened the original in gimp and saved it back on the -fix filename

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22:06 <Tank_Master> ahh

22:10 <FreeLarry> humm how do you write an iso to disk in linux such that it is the original image not an iso file

22:21 <FreeLarry> got it

22:23 <FreeLarry> nope don't got it

22:24 <FreeLarry> need to go back to store and get some more cd's

22:24 <PovAddict> why?

22:40 <efc> &weather 30625

22:40 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 28F / -2C | Humidity: 51% | Pressure: 30.56in / 1035hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows around 19. Northwest winds 5 to 15 mph. Wind chill readings around 10.; Thursday - Sunny. Highs in the mid 40s. Light north winds shifting to the northeast in the afternoon.; Thursday Night - Mostly clear. Lows around 19. Light and variable (1 more message)

22:41 <efc> This is the coldest its been in a few years.. I hope the fireants freeze their little $##e# off!

22:45 <FreeLarry> dang need to find a really larg cd blank 700 MB not large enough image requires 766.x MB

22:46 <PovAddict> use a dvd!

22:46 <FreeLarry> tried that it just copyied as iso file

22:46 <FreeLarry> will waste one more

22:46 <PovAddict> that has nothing to do with using a dvd or a cd, just about you burning it wrong ;-)

22:47 <PovAddict> what are you using to burn?

22:48 <FreeLarry> the cd creator in gnome

22:48 <PovAddict> there has to be a special feature for isos

22:48 <PovAddict> you can't just drag the file into the disc, that will burn a disc with the iso as a file inside

22:48 <FreeLarry> well will see what happns

22:49 <FreeLarry> probably what happened this time did a little different

22:49 <FreeLarry> adk me if i wanted to create from image

22:49 <FreeLarry> writing image to dvd

22:50 <FreeLarry> will see what disk looks like - its the f8 live cd gnome

22:50 <efc> you might get lucky with a zip

22:52 <FreeLarry> extracted it to folder then moved just the iso file to cd burner screen

22:52 <PovAddict> hmm

22:52 <FreeLarry> ahh looks like it copied correctly this time

22:52 <PovAddict> if it mentioned "creating from image" you're probably good

22:54 <FreeLarry> it did got 2 folders isolinux and liveOS on dvd/cd

22:54 <FreeLarry> no space let on the blank dvd either

22:54 <PovAddict> that's what it always says

22:55 <FreeLarry> anyway 6 hrs more for the torrent of dvd iso dl

23:01 <Soul_keeper>

23:01 <Romulus> <> (at

23:01 <PovAddict> it's an old link

23:01 <PovAddict> I can tell for the 3-letter ln-s link

23:02 <Soul_keeper> heh

23:05 <efc> Darn, weather like this makes me wish I had more P4s running in here

23:05 <PovAddict> I'd give you mine

23:05 <PovAddict> &weather buenos aires

23:05 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 72°F / 22°C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 29.86in / 1011hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 16mph / 26km/h | Updated: 1:00 AM ARST; Clear. High:96 F. / 36 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:80 F. / 27 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:95 F. / 35 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:73 F. / 23 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:78 F. / 26 C.; Clear. Low:66 F. / 19 C.;

23:05 <PovAddict> at 1 am

23:06 <PovAddict> with *strong* rain

23:06 <efc> I have two P3-600s I can fire for additional warmth

23:06 <efc> and another one I didn't bring..

23:07 <efc> two P4s running normally

23:08 <Soul_keeper> is anything under 1GHz even worth mentioning anymore ?

23:08 <efc> probably not, but its something for nothing.

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23:48 <Bad_At_Home> &weather 86046

23:48 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Temperature: 26F / -3.3C | Humidity: 71% | Pressure: in / hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 2mph / 3.2km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy in the evening then becoming partly cloudy. Lows 17 to 23. Light winds.; Thursday - Not as cool. Partly cloudy in the morning then becoming mostly cloudy. Highs 45 to 51. Light winds.; Thursday Night - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance (1 more message)

23:48 <Bad_At_Home> &more

23:48 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: of rain and snow in the evening...a chance of rain and snow after midnight. No snow accumulation. Snow level 7500 feet. Lows 22 to 28. South winds around 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 30 percent.;

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23:52 <B2_Riesel> &weather 45209

23:52 <Romulus> B2_Riesel: Temperature: 17F / -8C | Humidity: 71% | Pressure: 30.78in / 1042hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Scattered flurries until early morning. Lows around 5 above. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Thursday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the mid 20s. West winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming southwest in the afternoon.; Thursday Night - Clear. Lows (1 more message)

23:52 <B2_Riesel> LIES!

23:52 <B2_Riesel> it is 3F outside

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23:57 <efc2> I've got all available CPUs crunching now..

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