IRC logs of #boinc for Saturday, 2008-01-12

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00:36 <MTughan> &cad

00:36 <Romulus> http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php

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00:51 <Wabbit67> where is the setiusa site that lists all the projects

00:52 <Tank_Master> setiusa.net/join

00:52 <Wabbit67> found it on ym own

00:52 <Wabbit67> not that drunk ywet

00:52 <efc> time for the posting of the links i'm supposed to click

00:53 <Tank_Master> lol

00:53 <Tank_Master> http://seti.usa.myminicity.com/ind

00:53 <Romulus> Title: MyMiniCity (at seti.usa.myminicity.com)

00:54 <Wabbit67> bah

00:54 <Tank_Master> http://kwsn.myminicity.com/

00:54 <Wabbit67> I give you what you truly need

00:54 <Romulus> Title: MyMiniCity (at kwsn.myminicity.com)

00:54 <Wabbit67> no silly industry

00:54 <Tank_Master> mine needs industry, yours dosent

00:54 <Wabbit67> you needs trans

00:54 <Tank_Master> hency y I posted them the way I did ;)

00:54 <Wabbit67> you have 1% unemployment

00:54 <Romulus> you have 1% unemployment

00:54 <Wabbit67> thank you Romulus

00:54 <Tank_Master> f you rommie!

00:54 <Wabbit67> see he agrees with me

00:55 <Tank_Master> no, he's a copycat

00:55 <Wabbit67> don't take my victory from me

00:56 <Wabbit67> school starting in a few weeks

00:56 <Wabbit67> maybe flirt with some cute girls

00:56 <Tank_Master> theres some over by the St Marry's

00:57 <Wabbit67> see I am in California

00:57 <Wabbit67> not Oregon

00:57 <Tank_Master> theres a St Marry's everywhere

00:58 <Wabbit67> hmmm

00:59 <Wabbit67> that sounds like it might require work

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01:22 <MTughan> I'm off to bed...

01:26 <efc> night

01:26 <efc> history channel is getting worse

01:27 <Wabbit98> has been getting worse for years

01:27 <efc> they've shown the same clip of a house getting sucked up by a tornado 20 or more times and they haven't quit yet

01:28 <efc> 25

01:29 <Tank_Master> lol

01:29 <Tank_Master> but its cool to watch if your on acid!

01:29 <efc> 30

01:30 <efc> cmon one more time for me

01:30 <efc> Yep, yep, yep,

01:30 <efc> 3 more times

01:31 <efc> I wonder if there are any optimizations that can be a applied to a 1-bit FFT

01:31 <Tank_Master> .5bit?

01:32 <efc> well, an FFT applied to 1 bit data

01:32 <efc> actually i guess its 2 bit, 1 real and 1 complex

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01:33 <efc> all the numbers are -1 or 1

01:34 <Tank_Master> or 0

01:34 <Tank_Master> ?

01:34 <efc> 1 bit, 2 values. S@H defines them to be -1 or 1. I think you could adjust it to work with 0 or 1.

01:35 <efc> It seems like you could do some optimizations, since its pretty easy multiplying by 1.

01:36 <Tank_Master> oh?

01:36 <Tank_Master> ;)

01:36 <Bad_At_Home> &weather 86046

01:36 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Temperature: 14.4°F / -9.8°C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 23.68in / 801.8hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 13 to 19. Northwest winds around 15 mph.; Saturday - Partly cloudy. Highs 40 to 46. Light winds.; Saturday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows 16 to 22. Light winds.;

01:37 <Tank_Master> bad! your back!

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01:37 <Bad_At_Home> lol it will be 0 or -3 in the morning

01:37 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

01:37 <Tank_Master> &more

01:37 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 48.5°F / 9.2°C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 30.08in / 1018.5hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - A slight chance of showers in the evening...then rain becoming likely after midnight. Lows 40 to 45. Light wind becoming southeast 5 to 15 mph after midnight...except becoming east 10 to 20 mph near The Gorge.; Saturday - Rain in the (1 more message)

01:37 <Romulus> Tank_Master: morning...then a chance of showers in the afternoon. Highs 45 to 50. Southeast wind 10 to 20 mph except east 15 to 20 mph near The Gorge...becoming southwest 10 mph in the afternoon.; Saturday Night - Mostly cloudy. Colder. Areas of fog after midnight. Lows 30 to 35. Light wind.;

01:38 <efc> &weather 30625

01:38 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 45°F / 7°C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 29.87in / 1011hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Colder. Lows in the upper 30s. Light northwest winds.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the mid 60s. Light and variable winds.; Saturday Night - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the upper 30s. Light northeast winds.;

01:38 <Bad_At_Home> who says it don't get cold in Arizona.

01:38 <Bad_At_Home> night efc & tank

01:38 <Tank_Master> lol

01:38 <efc> Night

01:38 <Tank_Master> gn bb

01:39 <efc> I have never understood the FFT well enough. Guess I need to read it a few dozen more times.

01:39 <Tank_Master> fft?

01:40 <efc> fast fourier transform

01:41 <Tank_Master> ahh

01:45 <efc> now they're going to show a clip of a car crash 50 times

01:45 <efc> + computer animation of the same clip

01:47 <Tank_Master> lol

01:48 <Tank_Master> how else are they going to fill the HD screen?

01:50 <efc> again, again, x, x, x

01:52 <efc> ....

01:52 <efc> each dot is an again

01:52 <efc> . ok they're done

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02:04 <Tank_Master> and so are you, apparently

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02:28 <FreeLarry58> humm the quad shows about 800 rac after 2 updates

02:28 <FreeLarry58> running on 13 projects

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02:52 <FreeLarry> well started it up over here also - waiting to see if PovAddic1 will come online before i go to bed

02:53 <FreeLarry> &seen Janus

02:53 <Romulus> FreeLarry: I have not seen Janus.

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03:08 <FreeLarry> morning

03:09 <FreeLarry58> shall the old me talk to the new me?

03:09 <FreeLarry> no

03:09 <Romulus> now they're going to show a clip of a house getting sucked up by a tornado 20 or more times

03:09 <mweltin> hey

03:09 <FreeLarry> rommie getting nasty

03:10 <mweltin> yeah I wonder where that came from.

03:10 <mweltin> you don't know anything about mql4 do you ?

03:11 <FreeLarry> huh is that missing queen leotard number 4?

03:11 * FreeLarry shouldn't try to be funny - no idea

03:11 <mweltin> yes but it also stands for metaquote language 4

03:12 <mweltin> no matter

03:12 * FreeLarry has hard enough time remembering english and now you want me to learn a new language?

03:12 <mweltin> LOL

03:12 <mweltin> well I find you don't need to be able to spell as many words

03:12 <mweltin> so I like it more than english.

03:13 <FreeLarry> ahh for programers thats a great plus - unfortunately im not a programmer

03:13 <mweltin> I just figured you were.

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03:13 <FreeLarry> nope more a nuts and bolts type guy

03:14 <mweltin> I think its because you are always on so late.

03:14 * FreeLarry is trying to figure out how to get burp to run on linux x86_64

03:14 <mweltin> burp?

03:14 <FreeLarry> lol nope just get home from post office around this time

03:14 <FreeLarry> big ugly renedering project

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03:14 <FreeLarry> rendering

03:14 <mweltin> haha

03:15 <mweltin> nice

03:15 <mweltin> you work for the USPS?

03:15 <FreeLarry> http://burp.boinc.dk/forum_thread.php?id=713&nowrap=true#5276 is the thread i'm trying to do and completely lost

03:15 <FreeLarry> yup

03:15 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1POx> (at burp.boinc.dk)

03:16 <FreeLarry> got the cvs for client side dl'ed but haven't aclue what to do now

03:16 <mweltin> its fuuny here, they are only open from 9-3 and don't bother going at lunch time.

03:17 <mweltin> they "close" at 3 so they can get their other work done, whatever that is.

03:17 <FreeLarry> lol i wo*- in the processing side open 24/7/365

03:17 <mweltin> I used to the post office in Portland where its just open all the f'n time.

03:17 <FreeLarry> load unload trucks seperate mail and send to where it gets further sorting

03:17 <mweltin> Samoans are not know for their work habits.

03:18 <FreeLarry> yup another big processing center there

03:18 <FreeLarry> well they do move a mean container mweltin

03:18 <mweltin> what is funny is that if you mail a priority letter from the US they will tell you it takes 3 days to get here.

03:18 <FreeLarry> got a few with me at tacoma

03:19 <FreeLarry> to america soma thats about right

03:19 <mweltin> the ones that get off the island get their shit together. I honestly think this island would have fallen appart unless it was for the people that left and came back.

03:19 <wdsmia> asks mweltin to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

03:19 <FreeLarry> depends on which flights the containers catch

03:19 <mweltin> LOL

03:20 <mweltin> no mail only comes on Thursdays and Sundays

03:20 <FreeLarry> morning doug

03:20 <FreeLarry> arrrgg

03:21 <FreeLarry> instead of halfaday its halfaweek there

03:21 <FreeLarry> or is that haf

03:21 <mweltin> yeah, customes is a joke too.

03:21 * FreeLarry spent to long on quam

03:22 <mweltin> I'd like ot go there.

03:22 <mweltin> seems nice.

03:22 <mweltin> good coral coverage.

03:23 <FreeLarry> yeah but not to keen on idea of island on lip of Marianas Trench

03:23 <mweltin> one of my dive buddies wants to dive that.

03:23 <mweltin> I think he is crazy.

03:24 * FreeLarry doesn't know anything designed for pressures at that depth

03:25 <mweltin> apparently you can go very very deep, much deeper than I thought.  Of course you have to take a mini-sub to the bottom of the trench.

03:26 <FreeLarry> nope not a manned sub anyway

03:27 <FreeLarry> humm forgot which project is yours

03:27 <mweltin> tsp

03:27 <mweltin> we are in a transitional phase right now.

03:28 <FreeLarry> ahh one i joined a couple of days ago

03:28 <mweltin> nice

03:28 <mweltin> thanks

03:28 <mweltin> always nice to have a new cruncher

03:28 <mweltin> do you run a project?

03:29 <mweltin> I was on #mysql the other day and ran into a guy that runs a boinc stats site.

03:29 <FreeLarry> nope PovAddic1 used to run render at home on one of my machines till the isp got snippity

03:30 <mweltin> about what?

03:30 <FreeLarry> http://bob.myisland.as/tsp/hosts_user.php

03:30 <Romulus> Title: Please log in (at bob.myisland.as)

03:31 <FreeLarry> argg youll have to look me up - Account number

03:31 <FreeLarry> Used in URLs1392

03:31 <Romulus> shall the old me talk to the new me?

03:31 <FreeLarry> the mail server we tried to setup - i'm on a ddns for home user account and they told me i was a spammer

03:32 <FreeLarry> even tho only emails going out were to those who subscribed to forums

03:32 <mweltin> thats lame

03:34 <FreeLarry> yeah - only they didn't come right out and tell me the problem first - they had me do all sorts of other things which killed off mirror sites i was doing also before i finally got the right discription of problem

03:35 <FreeLarry> if they had told me the problem first i could have figured out something else without disrupting everything

03:35 <mweltin> sorry man that blows

03:36 <FreeLarry> ahh well bday over so guess i go back to 50 now

03:36 <mweltin> que?

03:37 <FreeLarry> birthday i was telling everyone i was 05 years old

03:39 <mweltin> haha

03:39 <mweltin> happy birthday

03:57 <CoderForLife> morning

03:57 <CoderForLife> Happy Birthday FreeLarry

03:58 <CoderForLife> Hello mweltin

03:58 <mweltin> cfl !

03:58 <mweltin> nice to see you

03:58 <mweltin> I was wondering if I would see you tonight.

03:59 <CoderForLife> >poof<  here I am

03:59 <CoderForLife> just rolled out of bed - 4:00am Saturday morning

04:00 <mweltin> ouch

04:00 <CoderForLife> the bed isn't that high

04:00 <mweltin> haha

04:00 <CoderForLife> =)

04:06 <mweltin> do you use RH much at a ll cfl?

04:11 <CoderForLife> I have used RH/Mandrake/Fedora for years

04:11 <CoderForLife> started with RH 4.3

04:11 <mweltin> cool, I come from a slackware background and I'm not much of an admin.

04:12 <mweltin> so I have a few questions.

04:12 <CoderForLife> I have played around with ubuntu and opensuse, but nothing serious

04:12 <CoderForLife> brb  breakfast

04:12 <mweltin> first, how does the rc.d stuff work.  In slackware you just make a rc.whatever file executable and it will run after evertying else boots.

04:12 <mweltin> ok

04:12 <mweltin> see ya

04:26 <CoderForLife> u there?

04:26 <mweltin> yeah

04:26 <CoderForLife> you familiar with runlevels?

04:26 <mweltin> yes

04:27 <mweltin> single user, multi user

04:27 <mweltin> with network

04:27 <mweltin> etc

04:27 <mweltin> rc.0 - whatever

04:27 <CoderForLife> right

04:28 <CoderForLife> what's your question?

04:28 <Romulus> by HDradio died, I busted my keyboard at work..

04:28 <mweltin> so I go to etc/rc.d

04:29 <mweltin> and on a red hat box all there are is the rc.local sysinit init.d rc.0-6

04:29 <mweltin> most are dirctories.

04:29 <mweltin> on the slackware box, I have a ton of rc.SERVICENAME

04:29 <mweltin> like rc.httpd and rc.wireless and so on.

04:30 <mweltin> so I'm just curious in the RH

04:30 <mweltin> what order is stuff run in?

04:31 <mweltin> ahhh  evertyhing is in initd

04:31 <mweltin> /etc/rc.d/initd

04:31 <CoderForLife> runlevel order, then sort order AFAIK - I thought that's why some of them start with "0"

04:32 <mweltin> and all the run level dirs have sym links to it.

04:32 <mweltin> ok now that tha tis ou tof the way

04:32 <mweltin> I have never understood packages.

04:33 <mweltin> I couldn't uninstall the mysql package here because there were too many things that depend on it.

04:34 <mweltin> but I needed to install mysql from source for BOINC

04:35 <mweltin> so how to I add my mysqld to start on boot?

04:36 <CoderForLife> the easy way is to do it through a services application in the GUI

04:37 <CoderForLife> it modifies the startup

04:39 <mweltin> no gui

04:39 <mweltin> at best I have some web based cpanel thing

04:39 <CoderForLife> looking...

04:40 <mweltin> its a virtual server in Seattle somewhere.

04:40 <mweltin> I'm moving my project over to it.

04:40 <Romulus> 0 credit/day, -257,640 credit/week

04:40 <mweltin> romie is on a roll

04:41 <CoderForLife> sounds like a productive platform Rommie

04:42 <CoderForLife> startup is in /etc/rc.d/init.d/mysqld

04:42 <CoderForLife> contains the shell script

04:43 <CoderForLife> brb

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05:09 <mweltin> YO YO yoyo

05:09 <yoyo[RKN]> hi Markus, I'm no more in Berlin now

05:09 <mweltin> your in Berlin now no more?

05:09 <mweltin> where are you ?

05:10 <yoyo[RKN]> currently staying in Kiev, waiting for the Taxi to the airport

05:10 <mweltin> Kiev, I know I should know where that is but I don't.

05:11 <yoyo[RKN]> ukrain

05:12 <mweltin> do you use RedHat or CentOS at all?

05:12 <yoyo[RKN]> no

05:12 <mweltin> ok

05:12 <mweltin> linux ?

05:13 <yoyo[RKN]> yes, the boinc server runs linux, but do not know which distribution. It is maintained by my admin

05:13 <yoyo[RKN]> In my company I work with Solaris, but also only as user

05:14 <mweltin> ok

05:18 <CoderForLife> just got off the phone with the credit card company

05:18 <yoyo[RKN]> boinc question:

05:18 <yoyo[RKN]> first the wu is uploaded

05:19 <yoyo[RKN]> later the credits are reported

05:19 <Romulus> Ooo, an LAN party...

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05:19 <yoyo[RKN]> what happens if between both the deadline is over?

05:19 <yoyo[RKN]> hi Starfury^

05:19 <mweltin> good question

05:19 <Starfury^> hi

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05:19 <mweltin> I don't know sorry

05:20 <mweltin> I think it just sends out a new result.

05:20 <yoyo[RKN]> ok, have to leave to the airport

05:21 <mweltin> ok

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05:21 <mweltin> bye

05:25 <mweltin> Starfury do you do my sys admin?

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05:28 <Starfury^> dont know

05:28 <Starfury^> might do

05:28 <Starfury^> where you work

05:28 <mweltin> I work for myself

05:29 <Starfury^> then why would i do your sys admin?

05:30 <mweltin> you wouldn't, I just need to know how to set the path veriable that everyone uses.

05:32 <Starfury^> what you trying to do

05:33 <mweltin> I'm useing a CentOS box for the first time, lots of the packages are not configured they way I want them, so I'm installing a bunch of stuff from source.  I want to set the PATH variable so all users will look for the items I built first.

05:40 <Starfury^> well i am not sure about centos but on win path will just make allow you to run a command without specifying the location of the command first... so you use a logon script which is specified in each users profile... if it is active directory based

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05:46 <CoderForLife> mweltin - why don't you ask your CentOS admin questions on a centos channel/room?  I think you'd get better responses, after the normal noob insults

05:47 <mweltin> hahaha

05:47 <mweltin> yeah good call

05:48 <CoderForLife> just trying to help the best way I can =)

05:48 <CoderForLife> brb

06:13 <quail> g'evening all

06:14 <CoderForLife> if "g" means "grief" then g'evening it is

06:14 <quail> oh hehe

06:15 <quail> not having good time there Don

06:15 <CoderForLife> it's been a rough couple of months

06:15 <quail> well you more than welcome to jin my club

06:16 <quail> I getting sick of the drugs I am on atm

06:16 <quail> making me feel like crap :-(

06:16 <CoderForLife> between my sister's health and my nephew's laptop, I have no been having fun

06:16 <CoderForLife> not*

06:17 <mweltin> SWEET! just got the upper_case example to build on my new server.

06:17 <CoderForLife> congrats mweltin

06:17 <quail> CoderForLife: I am sorry to hear that, my health atm is not the best

06:18 <mweltin> thanks

06:18 <CoderForLife> I know, quail - sorry about your troubles

06:19 <quail> I have to go back to hospital on monday for more tests

06:19 <CoderForLife> dang

06:19 <CoderForLife> have you have any more "episodes"?

06:20 <quail> I had another this week tuesday morning

06:20 <CoderForLife> un-good

06:20 <quail> they recon I have a blood clot somewhere

06:21 <CoderForLife> seems to follow...

06:21 <CoderForLife> again, soory

06:21 <mweltin> ok its past my bed time

06:21 <quail> so I am on blood thinners etc am

06:21 <mweltin> I'll see you all ater

06:21 <quail> atm

06:21 <CoderForLife> OK mweltin

06:21 <CoderForLife> tc mw

06:21 <quail> &nn mweltin

06:21 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

06:21 <mweltin> good luck at the hospital quail.

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06:22 <quail> mweltin: thanks

06:22 <quail> CoderForLife: I have been sleeping more than what I have ever before

06:23 <CoderForLife> you probably need it

06:23 <CoderForLife> I'm sleeping more too, but I'm 50 now

06:23 <quail> atm I have been sleeping 6 hours and up for ~hour and back to bed

06:24 <quail> and my interest with computers etc has just gone out the window

06:25 <quail> not litterally, but I just not have the energy or consentration span for it

06:27 <CoderForLife> or the temperature for it

06:27 <quail> well that not elping too

06:27 <CoderForLife> =)

06:27 <quail> helping

06:28 <CoderForLife> well - time to get ready for my usual early Saturday morning trip to the grocery store

06:28 <CoderForLife> I'll bbl

06:30 <quail> CoderForLife: keep safe mate, ttyl

06:30 <CoderForLife> thx

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08:15 <xcamel> 'lo

08:23 <desti_T2> http://www.newerth.com/

08:23 <Romulus> Title: Newerth Savage 1 & 2 Community (at www.newerth.com)

08:30 <quail> hey Jay

08:43 <xcamel> 'lo Q

08:50 <xcamel> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap080112.html ,  http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0801/PolarisNebula_mandel800.jpg

08:50 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1PPU> (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)

08:57 <xcamel> "Snow Day in the Sands of Baghdad"

08:57 <xcamel> http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jW3GxloIao_SDQfJaOPCdr4CD0AAD8U3S3681

08:57 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1PPX> (at ap.google.com)

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09:08 <xcamel> &weather 12074

09:08 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 36.2°F / 2.3°C | Humidity: 74% | Pressure: 30.03in / 1016.8hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy this morning...then becoming partly sunny. Highs in the mid 40s. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the upper 20s. Northwest winds around 5 mph in the evening...becoming light and variable.; Sunday - (1 more message)

09:09 <xcamel> &more

09:09 <Romulus> xcamel: Partly sunny in the morning...then becoming mostly cloudy. Highs around 40. Northeast winds around 5 mph.; Flood Warning for Saratoga County in effect until 12:30 PM EST on January 13, 2008;

09:10 <xcamel> markov

09:11 <xcamel> &markov stats

09:11 <Romulus> xcamel: Firsts: 256; Lasts: 347; Pairs: 1998; Follows: 1910

09:11 <Bad_At_Home> Mornin Jay

09:11 <xcamel> 'lo BB

09:11 <Bad_At_Home> &weather 86046

09:11 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Temperature: 8.6°F / -13.0°C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 23.68in / 801.8hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly cloudy. Highs 40 to 46. Light winds.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy in the evening then becoming partly cloudy. Lows 15 to 21. Light winds.; Sunday - Partly cloudy. Highs 36 to 42. Light winds becoming northeast around 15 mph in the late (1 more message)

09:11 <Bad_At_Home> &more

09:11 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: morning and afternoon.;

09:12 <xcamel> hmm.. got cold...

09:12 <xcamel> still warm here but fading fast...

09:12 <Romulus> well i am not sure about centos but on win path will just make allow you to run on linux x86_64

09:13 <Bad_At_Home> lol where i live is 10 degrees colder than the forcast lol

09:13 <Bad_At_Home> so my temp is -3

09:13 <xcamel> stay in - drink coffee...

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09:14 <Bad_At_Home> got a hot chocolote in hand

09:14 <Bad_At_Home> need to bring in more firewood

09:17 <xcamel> we have a coastal storm coming tomorrow night, but it's a little to far east to get any real accumulation

09:17 <xcamel> nuisance snow all monday...

09:17 <Bad_At_Home> &weather 86023

09:17 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Temperature: 4°F / -16°C | Humidity: 84% | Pressure: 30.36in / 1028hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Today - Partly cloudy. Highs around 38 on the North Rim to around 56 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy in the evening then becoming partly cloudy. Lows around 14 on the North Rim to around 36 along the Colorado River. Light (1 more message)

09:17 <Bad_At_Home> &more

09:17 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: winds.; Sunday - Partly cloudy. Highs around 35 on the North Rim to around 52 along the Colorado River. Light winds.;

09:18 <Bad_At_Home> thats the grandcanyon forecast

09:18 <xcamel> check my webcam shots - 90% of our snow is now gone..

09:18 <Bad_At_Home> we still got plenty here

09:22 <c0dewarrior> no snow here either

09:22 <c0dewarrior> oh wait, it never snows here

09:22 <Romulus> each dot is an again

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09:26 <xcamel> 'lo CW

09:35 <c0dewarrior> howdy xcamel

09:35 <c0dewarrior> long time..

09:36 <Romulus> I getting sick of the drugs I am sorry to hear that, my health atm is not the best way I want them, so I'm just curious in the RH

09:37 <c0dewarrior> xcamel: all the best with 2008... know it's late ;-)

09:38 <xcamel> thanks.. same to you..

09:40 <c0dewarrior> ta

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09:44 <sethy> http://www.indianpad.com/story/167698

09:45 <xcamel> to bad we don't have any hotshot python programmers..

09:45 <sethy> D:

09:45 <sethy> rommy visiting the doctors?

09:46 <xcamel> no - it's the same old pysqlite problem

09:46 * c0dewarrior hides his python

09:46 <sethy> :(

09:47 <xcamel> it insists on some very old version, shich is installed, but I can't seem to make 'romy's user acount' see it..

09:47 <c0dewarrior> xcamel: it's surely as simple as installing sqllite3 and it's python wrapper...

09:48 <c0dewarrior> run python as rommy's user, and do "import sys" and "print sys.path"

09:48 <xcamel> nope - I wish it was that easy... you have to look at the docs at supybot.com

09:49 <c0dewarrior> then upgrade supybot ;-)

09:49 <xcamel> it's linux box

09:49 <c0dewarrior> running it fine with sqlite on another site..

09:49 <Romulus> big ugly renedering project

09:49 <xcamel> hold on

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10:03 <xcamel> as likely as anything

10:03 <xcamel> need to go feed the animals.. bbl

10:04 <CoderForLife> is there any kind of issue between sqlite vs sqlite3?

10:06 <c0dewarrior> CoderForLife: running sqlite 2.8 with the 1.0.1 wrapper

10:06 <c0dewarrior> works fine with supybot

10:07 <CoderForLife> ok - just thought I'd toss that onto the table

10:10 <c0dewarrior> aye, who knows the trouble one could have on fedora!

10:18 <quail> CoderForLife: wb mate

10:19 <CoderForLife> thanks quail

10:19 <quail> but I am off to it the farter tho

10:19 <wdsmia> asks quail to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

10:19 <quail> &nn all

10:19 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

10:20 <quail> wdsmia: what I say wrong

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10:29 <Tank_Master> gn qual

10:29 <Tank_Master> n gn everyone else

10:29 <Tank_Master> gm*

10:29 <Romulus> theres a St Marry's everywhere

10:30 <Tank_Master> STOP COPYING ME, ROMMIE!

10:30 <wdsmia> lol

10:32 <wdsmia> &weather 50265

10:32 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 27°F / -3°C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h ; Today - Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of light snow. High in the upper 20s. Temperature steady or slowly falling in the afternoon. Northwest wind 5 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A 30 percent chance of snow in the evening. Low 15 to 20. Northwest wind (1 more message)

10:33 <wdsmia> &more

10:33 <Romulus> wdsmia: 5 to 15 mph.; Sunday - Mostly cloudy. High around 30. West wind 5 to 10 mph.;

10:36 <CoderForLife> hey Doug

10:36 <CoderForLife> enough with the snow stuff already

10:38 <Tank_Master> we hit 55 yesterday here

10:38 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

10:38 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 46.2°F / 7.9°C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 29.97in / 1014.8hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Rain early...then a chance of showers by late morning. Highs around 50. Southeast wind 10 mph becoming south 10 to 15 mph with gusts to 20 mph during the morning.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Areas of fog after midnight. Lows around 35. (1 more message)

10:38 <Tank_Master> &more

10:38 <Romulus> Tank_Master: South wind 5 to 10 mph becoming light wind.; Sunday - Mostly cloudy in the morning...then mostly sunny. Areas of fog in the morning. Highs around 45. Light wind.;

10:39 * CoderForLife wanders downstairs

10:48 <quail> wdsmia: fart is a just a natural human bodily function

10:48 <wdsmia> asks quail to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

10:49 <Tank_Master> you old fart!

10:49 <wdsmia> asks Tank_Master to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

10:50 <quail> Tank_Master: stop saying fart

10:50 <wdsmia> asks quail to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

10:51 * quail just had a fart :-P

10:52 <quail> only prob with my fart is I polluted the word

10:52 <wdsmia> asks quail to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

10:53 <quail> and wdsmia bot is polluting this channel cause of natural bodily function called fart

10:53 <wdsmia> asks quail to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

11:04 <CoderForLife> let's not take this conversation farther (testing)

11:04 <wdsmia> asks CoderForLife to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

11:04 <CoderForLife> further

11:06 <quail> wdsmia: bot farts no lodgic

11:06 <wdsmia> asks quail to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

11:07 <quail> CoderForLife: I have got my bluetooth stuff running great

11:08 <quail> I can broadcast music to my bluetooth headset over 20 metres away

11:08 <quail> from my laptop

11:09 <CoderForLife> congrats

11:09 <quail> I am happy with it as nokia says I not get no more than 10 metres

11:11 <quail> I have a nokia headset that all

11:17 <CoderForLife> the transmissions are obviously piggy-backing on the alien colonization signals

11:17 <CoderForLife> it's the only reasonable explanation

11:21 <xcamel> back again

11:22 <CoderForLife> and I'll bbiab

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12:07 <MTughan> Not too often you find this channel dead for half an hour. 'lo Jay

12:13 <xcamel> lol - off to the tractor store..

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13:31 <andresgr> one of the wu's dead line ends in four hours...

13:31 <andresgr> can i somehow tell my boinc "send the completed results *now*"?

13:32 <zombie67> go to the projects tab

13:32 <zombie67> select project

13:32 <zombie67> click update button

13:32 <andresgr> ok

13:32 <andresgr> i thought of that... but was afraid that could "erase" the results :)

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13:33 <Tank_Master> no, ther "reset" button will do that

13:33 <andresgr> perfect

13:33 <andresgr> thanks

13:33 <Tank_Master> np

13:35 <zombie67> I'm #1 in team for several projects.

13:35 <Tank_Master> but not all ;)

13:35 <andresgr> done

13:36 <andresgr> let's see how many credits did i win with my 3 completed wu's :)

13:36 <Tank_Master> andresgr: you may wont to change your preferences to "connect every 0 days"

13:37 <Tank_Master> youll get credits when both you and someone else compleats the same WU

13:37 <andresgr> ah

13:37 <zombie67> I fit 100k @ superlink

13:37 <andresgr> let's check that option...

13:37 <Romulus> mine needs industry, yours dosent

13:37 <zombie67> that is now 100k in ALL projects (with work)

13:37 <Tank_Master> congrats

13:37 <Tank_Master> so you have 100o in hydrogen and depspid?

13:37 <Tank_Master> ;)

13:38 <zombie67> Now I can go back to crunching only what I want

13:38 <Tank_Master> thats a good thing

13:38 <zombie67> hydrogen & depspid don't have (unlimited work)

13:38 <Tank_Master> depspid dose now

13:38 <zombie67> sure, but not earning credits (yert)

13:38 <Tank_Master> and I have some comps with 10 WUs for hydrogen

13:38 <zombie67> yet

13:39 <Tank_Master> thats beside the point

13:40 <zombie67> hydrogen cranked up the run lengh.  may be possible to actually make some credits now, even with limited work

13:40 <Tank_Master> but it will defently be nice when depspid validates all the work!

13:40 <Tank_Master> I got over 1k outstanding WUs

13:41 <xcamel> cdpn?

13:41 <Tank_Master> I have over 100k in clmate

13:42 <xcamel> have the models stopped crashing now?

13:42 <zombie67> when I left team macnn, I was #1 on 95% of the projects.

13:42 <zombie67> when I moved, I expected that to drop to 0%

13:42 <Tank_Master> climate has been stable for a while now

13:42 <BiteAbleKat> good morning

13:43 <Tank_Master> BAK! morning!

13:43 <xcamel> I dumped it about 8 months ago - everything was crashing..

13:43 <BiteAbleKat> how is everybody

13:43 <xcamel> 'lo BK

13:43 <Tank_Master> im good

13:43 <zombie67> oh yeah!  I put CPDN on my PII/linux box!

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13:43 <xcamel> well... with 2MM credits...

13:44 <Tank_Master> climate on a p2?

13:44 <Tank_Master> thats gonna take years!

13:44 <Tank_Master> :)

13:44 <zombie67> even the shortest cpdn project will take 2600 hours

13:44 <zombie67> 108 days

13:44 <Tank_Master> that cant be right

13:44 <zombie67> if run 100%

13:44 <zombie67> there are 3 different cpdn projects to choose from

13:44 <Tank_Master> most of mine took 4k hrs on a P4 3.0

13:45 <Tank_Master> ahh

13:45 <zombie67> you had a londer one

13:45 <Tank_Master> ok, that must be new

13:45 <zombie67> longer

13:45 <zombie67> yeah, you can choose now

13:45 <xcamel> all cpdn has proves is that there is no man-made GW

13:45 <zombie67> they rolled sap into cpdn too

13:45 <Tank_Master> and that will work right on a P3 with 512MB?

13:45 <zombie67> it is working on a PII, so yes

13:45 <Tank_Master> coo

13:46 <Tank_Master> SAP is still its own project (for attaching, and credits wise), right??

13:46 <zombie67> so I have my PII running really, for chess and hydrogen.  it uses cpdn for backup

13:46 <zombie67> no new work at SAP project

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13:47 <zombie67> fwiw, I brought my sap and cpdn credits to seti.usa

13:48 <Tank_Master> thall help ;)

13:48 <Tank_Master> to bad BBC didnt have a MAC app

13:48 <Tank_Master> we could have used the help there

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13:49 <Tank_Master> wb bryanUC

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13:51 <zombie67> any way to use app_info.xml to get a XP64 machine to get work from chess?

13:52 <Tank_Master> dunno

13:52 <Tank_Master> never tryed

13:52 <Tank_Master> but yes

13:52 <Tank_Master> if you can grab the app from the 32bit host

13:52 <Romulus> I was wondering if I would see you all ater

13:55 <zombie67> since I move so many machines to 64 bit, my chess production is way down

13:56 <Tank_Master> you know how to work an app_info.xml file, right?

14:00 <zombie67> sorta.  I know how to install one, like with seti.  not sure how to create one.

14:02 <Tank_Master> I just edited the one I got from SETI for when I ran ABC

14:02 <Tank_Master> cruncher know more about it that I do though

14:03 <zombie67> is the chess server new enough to know about anon platform?

14:04 <Tank_Master> havent tryed

14:08 <Tank_Master> I did 1.2k in hydrogen yesterday

14:08 <xcamel> what project is 'hydrogen' ?

14:10 <Tank_Master> its hydrogen docking with proteens

14:10 <Tank_Master> http://hydrogenathome.org/

14:10 <Romulus> Title: Hydrogen@Home (at hydrogenathome.org)

14:10 <zombie67> I did 331

14:10 <zombie67> bbl

14:10 <Tank_Master> tc

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14:22 <xcamel> 'lo Brian

14:22 <bryanUC> hi

14:25 <sethy> lome?

14:25 <FreeLarry58> i guess this isn't to bad for a day and a half http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_host_graph.php?pr=bo&id=3274650

14:25 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1PQy> (at boincstats.com)

14:27 <sethy> i got no lo's :'(

14:27 <FreeLarry58> lo sethy

14:28 <sethy> w00t

14:28 <sethy> hai FreeLarry58

14:28 <FreeLarry58> this machine stats a little off as combined the earlier version of os (32 bit) with current of 64 bit

14:28 <FreeLarry58> http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_host_graph.php?pr=bo&id=3252880

14:28 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1PQz> (at boincstats.com)

14:29 <FreeLarry58> new version only around 5 days

14:29 <xcamel> 'lo Larry

14:30 <sethy> for 'tis very nice

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14:46 <FreeLarry58> lo jay

14:47 <FreeLarry58> and al

14:47 <FreeLarry58> all

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15:10 <sethy> omg i need povz

15:10 <Tank_Master> ?

15:11 * BiteAbleKat jams:-Frank Zappa - Ship Arriving Too Late To Save A Drowning Witch - 01 - No Not Now.mp3

15:15 <sethy> i need povaddict

15:17 <Tank_Master> y?

15:17 <Romulus> depends on which flights the containers catch

15:18 <sethy> because i did my 1st thread corruption on 4chan

15:18 <Tank_Master> ahh

15:19 <sethy> i will upload pix hold on gaiz

15:19 <Tank_Master> congrats

15:19 <sethy> ty

15:19 <Tank_Master> ;)

15:20 <sethy> http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2335/1stpostcorruptionmy4.jpg

15:20 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1PRC> (at img217.imageshack.us)

15:20 <sethy> PRC

15:21 <sethy> lolz?

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15:23 <Tank_Master> wb efc

15:23 <efc> moo

15:24 <sethy> oom

15:24 <Romulus> CoderForLife: I have to go back to 50 now

15:33 <CoderForLife> leave me alone Rommie

15:37 <sethy> CoderForLife :)?

15:40 <efc> I asked late last night but.. anybody know of some special tricks you could do on FFTs for one or two bit data...

15:46 <efc> I think you can probably save some work on the first computation or two, since multiplying by 1, 0 and -1 is all pretty easy

15:51 <CoderForLife> you too, sethy

15:51 <CoderForLife> =)

15:51 <sethy> >:(

15:51 <CoderForLife> FFT=Fast Fourier Transforms??

15:52 <efc> Yes

15:52 <CoderForLife> like transforming functions from the time domain to the frequency domain?

15:53 <efc> Yes

15:53 <efc> My understanding of them is still not good enough but its getting there

15:53 <CoderForLife> what does analog have to do with digital?

15:53 <efc> Huh?

15:53 * CoderForLife reaches way back to college

15:54 <efc> This comes about because S@H works on 2 bit sampled data (1 bit real 1 bit complex)

15:54 <CoderForLife> you want to do an FFT on bits

15:54 <efc> S@H basically takes these samples and creates floats out of them. Floats equal to 1 or -1, and then works from there

15:54 <CoderForLife> ah, better

15:55 <efc> So I was brainstorming some ways to possibly take advantge of that

15:55 <CoderForLife> now that I understand - I can't help you

15:55 <Tank_Master> lol

15:55 * efc makes CFL walk the plank!

15:55 <CoderForLife> FFTs made my head hurt in 1980  when I learned them

15:56 <efc> I need to read the description several dozen more times

15:56 <efc> The bit-reverse and butterfly things, I still don't get well enough

15:56 <CoderForLife> but a friend of mine loved them, and went to work for Baldwin to build electronic keyboard instruments based on them

15:56 <Tank_Master> hf w/ that

15:57 <CoderForLife> As I recall, I got a "D" in that class

15:57 <efc> The FFT code in S@H is mostly one letter variable names and such so not gonna learn it from that

15:57 <CoderForLife> and was mighty glad of it

15:57 <Tank_Master> :D

15:57 <efc> I never had it in school. Its all self-taught.

15:58 <CoderForLife> that class and "Feedbacka and Controls" class about did me in

15:58 <efc> I do understand the basic ideas but not all these funky implementation details

15:58 <CoderForLife> even feedback has some feedback, apparently

15:59 <CoderForLife> time to walk to the mailbox and get the mail - bbl

15:59 <Tank_Master> hf!

15:59 <Tank_Master> dont get lost! ;)

16:00 <CoderForLife> it's a risk I have to take from time to time

16:02 <Tank_Master> true

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16:08 <Soul_keeper> hmmm

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16:35 <FreeLarry58> well just got a letter from wifes attorney - from sounds of it - one more contractor company recieves my do not ever use for life recommendation

16:36 <FreeLarry58> and as soon as case settled - they will get that message from me personnel in thier offices

16:37 <FreeLarry58> :|

16:39 <efc> Sounds ugly

16:40 <efc> Nice, they do make some bigger static rams, and fairly fast ones

16:45 <efc> One more ingredient in the master plan

16:46 <quail> hello fellow geeks

16:47 <efc> Moo

16:47 * quail farts

16:48 <quail> wow wdsmia changed his bot :-)

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17:00 <xcamel> re-hi

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17:01 <mweltin> hey HEY

17:01 <mweltin> I just got the upper_case example running on the new server.

17:02 <yoyo[RKN]> re, I'm back in Berlin

17:02 <mweltin> nice

17:02 <mweltin> feels good to be home ?

17:02 <yoyo[RKN]> yeah

17:09 <mweltin> ok somthing is wrong

17:09 <mweltin> I got a 403 apache error

17:09 <mweltin> httpd runs as apache:apache

17:10 <mweltin> bonic should be part of the apache groups

17:10 <mweltin> group*

17:10 <mweltin> and the html/user dir is owned by bonc , group is apache and most are world readable.

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17:27 <desti> change the htdocs dir to apache

17:28 <mweltin> you mean PROJ_ROOT/html ?

17:30 <mweltin> all the perms are set right as far as I can tell.  But of course something is wrong.

17:30 <mweltin> drwxrwxr-x  3 boinc apache 4096 Jan 12 06:17 user

17:30 <mweltin> and hte files within are world readable.

17:32 <desti> is the htdir path right set in the apache conf?

17:34 <mweltin> yes

17:34 <mweltin> /home/boinc/projects/upper_case/html

17:34 <mweltin> Alias /upper_case /home/boinc/projects/upper_case/html/user

17:36 <desti> can you access the page from inside the server?

17:37 <mweltin> I don't have a text browser at the moment.

17:39 <MTughan> And I passed 100K in E@H!

17:41 <mweltin> SWEEET!

17:41 <MTughan> Heh, next closest is S@H, at just under 40K.

17:45 <mweltin> same 403 error with _ops

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17:48 <efc> I wonder if I could actually manage to compile S@H myself...

17:48 <mweltin> sure you could

17:48 <mweltin> you are a bright guy

17:49 <efc> Past experience makes me think yes, but I'll regret it

17:50 <mweltin> hahah

17:50 <mweltin> don't let the past influence you

17:51 <mweltin> all you have is NOW

17:51 <efc> usually getting the right set of compilers and libraries is quite a pain

17:51 <Romulus> we have a nokia headset that all

17:51 <efc> But I'd like to poke around, try profiling etc

17:52 <MTughan> Pov and I are having quite a time getting a cross compiler to build. Me, for ppc Linux, and he for Mingw, I believe...

17:52 <efc> Also, its very rare that I get something that will actually compile without modification...

17:53 <efc> Some projects ship an entire build tools tree, just to get around that

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17:55 <mweltin> I'd like to switch to use the gnu build tools

17:55 <mweltin> Pov thinks its a bad idea.

17:56 <mweltin> I think he called it "automake hell"

17:57 <mweltin> #apache is dead

17:57 <mweltin> not getting much love there.

17:58 <efc> Yeah, so I need 2 or 3 new compilers and upteen packages to make s@h, not gonna happen

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18:09 <sethy> i just photoshopped

18:09 <sethy> http://sethiroth66.deviantart.com/art/master-chief-is-in-ur-bliss-74469640

18:09 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1PRy> (at sethiroth66.deviantart.com)

18:09 <sethy> he works <3

18:10 <kane77> sometimes (i'd say most of the times) I get computation error with einstein@home, why would that be?

18:14 <xcamel> ce's in einstein are pretty rare

18:14 <xcamel> but all projects get them - usually bad data in the wu

18:15 <kane77> so this can't be because of out of date client?

18:16 <xcamel> most likely not, but it doesn't hurt to update it

18:16 <xcamel> except not to v6 yet

18:17 <xcamel> what version are you running?

18:17 <kane77> 5.10.8

18:18 <xcamel> what platform?

18:18 <kane77> linux 32 and 64

18:18 <kane77> bit

18:18 <xcamel> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/

18:18 <Romulus> Title: Index of /dl (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

18:19 <desti> do you get a signal 11 error?

18:20 <kane77> yes

18:20 <kane77> yes on all the errors

18:21 <desti> this could happend when the connection is interrupted, it's know and they are woking on it

18:21 <kane77> you mean like internet connection?

18:21 <kane77> when sending results?

18:22 <xcamel> yup

18:22 <desti> might be, I haven't checked out more details on this yet

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19:14 <xcamel> 'lo PoV

19:16 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

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19:17 <xcamel> Hi Mike

19:19 <sethy> pov is going awayz

19:19 <sethy> [23:37:31] <PovAddict> tomorrow I'm going for a week

19:19 <PovAddict> back 23th

19:20 <sethy> 23rd*

19:20 <PovAddict> that

19:20 <sethy> your mom

19:23 <xcamel> good play by david...

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19:26 <sethy> it wont hurt david

19:45 <MTughan> Oh crud... I think I just unplugged my hard drive...

19:45 <xcamel> ouch

19:45 <PovAddict> using write buffering?

19:45 <MTughan> I think RAM.

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20:02 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

20:02 <Tank_Master> &more

20:02 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 49.6°F / 9.8°C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 30.25in / 1024.3hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of showers in the evening. Areas of fog after midnight. Lows around 35. South wind 10 mph.; Sunday - Partly sunny. Areas of fog in the morning. Highs around 45. Light wind.; Sunday Night - Partly (1 more message)

20:02 <Romulus> Tank_Master: cloudy. Lows 30 to 35. East wind 10 mph.;

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20:05 <xcamel> &hooper

20:05 <Romulus> xcamel: Are you daft?

20:05 <xcamel> YEA!!

20:05 <PovAddict> &omg

20:05 <Romulus> PovAddict: Are you daft?

20:05 <PovAddict> !

20:05 <xcamel> it works!!

20:05 <PovAddict> xcamel++

20:05 <xcamel> I scare me sometimes..

20:06 <PovAddict> was that the "dunno" plugin?

20:06 <sethy> in my case, dumbo

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20:06 <xcamel> any of the sqlite plugins should now work

20:06 <PovAddict> I can't believe 'dunno' needed sqlite

20:06 <Romulus> they've shown the same WU

20:07 <MTughan> And I indeed unplugged my booted hard drive. Froze up about 30 seconds after.

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20:07 <MTughan> Jay got around to installing SQLite?

20:07 <MTughan> &jdaskfd

20:07 <Romulus> MTughan: Are you daft?

20:07 <MTughan> Heh, nice.

20:08 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86023

20:08 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 30°F / -1°C | Humidity: 66% | Pressure: 30.30in / 1026hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...mostly cloudy with a 10 percent chance of rain and snow showers after midnight. No snow accumulation. Snow level 6000 feet. Lows around 14 on the North Rim to around 36 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; (1 more message)

20:08 <BadBarbarian> &more

20:08 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Sunday - Partly cloudy. Highs around 35 on the North Rim to around 52 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Sunday Night - Mostly clear. Lows around 12 on the North Rim to around 34 along the Colorado River. Light winds.;

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20:12 <efc> &weather 30625

20:12 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 52°F / 11°C | Humidity: 67% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 30s. Light and variable winds.; Sunday - Partly sunny in the morning then becoming mostly sunny. Highs around 60. Light north winds increasing to west 10 to 15 mph in the afternoon.; Sunday Night - Mostly clear. Lows in (1 more message)

20:12 <xcamel> well, almost - it's kicking an api version mismatch

20:14 <xcamel> &beer

20:14 <Romulus> Here's your beer, xcamel... Now drink up before I slap you silly!

20:14 <xcamel> or not..

20:14 <xcamel> &coffee

20:14 <Romulus> Here's your quad expresso!! BANG! Need an ambulance in 10 minutes?

20:15 <PovAddict> beer needs changing?

20:15 <xcamel> better than nothing...

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20:16 <Soul_keeper> bla

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20:20 <xcamel> 'lo SK

20:20 <MTughan> &seen Soul_keeper

20:20 <Romulus> MTughan: Soul_keeper was last seen in #boinc 4 minutes and 21 seconds ago: <Soul_keeper> bla

20:21 <xcamel> &markov

20:21 <Romulus> n gn everyone else

20:21 <MTughan> I didn't think Rommie slept...

20:21 <MTughan> :P

20:21 <xcamel> &espresso

20:21 <Romulus> xcamel: Are you daft?

20:22 <MTughan> &alias add espresso coffee

20:22 <Romulus> MTughan: The operation succeeded.

20:22 <MTughan> &espresso

20:22 <Romulus> Here's your quad expresso!! BANG! Need an ambulance in 10 minutes?

20:22 <MTughan> ;)

20:22 <MTughan> With that, you could make an infinite loop.

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20:23 <PovAddict> don't try ;)

20:23 <MTughan> Heh.

20:23 <PovAddict> I think Python (or SupyBot) is prepared to avoid that anyway

20:23 <MTughan> Might try it on TSPer when I get my Mac back.

20:24 <xcamel> it would have been easier if I stuck with python 2.3 or 4

20:24 <PovAddict> what version are you running?

20:25 <xcamel> 2.51

20:25 <PovAddict> hmm let me test something

20:25 <PovAddict> Romulus: foo is bar

20:25 <Romulus> hency y I posted them the way

20:25 <Romulus> PovAddict: Are you daft?

20:25 <PovAddict> ok, factoid isn't loaded or enabled... that's good, used to be annoying

20:25 <MTughan> &list

20:25 <Romulus> MTughan: Admin, Alias, Amazon, Anonymous, AutoMode, Babelfish, BadWords, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Ctcp, Currency, CyborgName, Darcs, Dict, Dunno, Factoids, Filter, Format, Freenode, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Internet, Karma, Lart, Lookup, Markov, Math, Memo, Misc, MoobotFactoids, News, NickCapture, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Postman, Praise, Protector, Quote, QuoteGrabs, RSS, Relay, (1 more message)

20:25 <Soul_keeper> so which one of you is going to give me ten thousand dollars ?

20:25 <xcamel> factoid was erroring out

20:29 <xcamel> 1-800-sell-blood

20:29 <PovAddict> sethy: answer Soul_keeper's question? :)

20:29 <PovAddict> you know you want to

20:30 <sethy> SOVIET RUSSIA

20:30 <Romulus> sticks a fork in sethy

20:30 <sethy> >;o

20:31 <PovAddict> woot

20:31 * sethy sticks a fork in Romulus

20:31 <sethy> hows that for your nuronet processor?

20:31 <sethy> FEELS GUTT DOESNT IT!

20:31 <sethy> anyway

20:32 <sethy> Soul_keeper: soviet russia is going to give $10,000 to your mom, not you

20:32 <Soul_keeper> i doubt it ...

20:32 <Soul_keeper> they are gonna spend it on vodka instead

20:33 <sethy> your mom spends it on vodka

20:33 <sethy> thats why they give it her

20:33 <sethy> for tax

20:34 <sethy> http://sethiroth66.deviantart.com/art/master-chief-is-in-ur-bliss-74469640 for more information

20:34 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1PRy> (at sethiroth66.deviantart.com)

20:38 <Soul_keeper> sethy, i rather talk about your mom tho ...

20:39 <sethy> sick sick b@#%&rd

20:39 <Soul_keeper> :)

20:43 <Romulus> slaps sethy and Soul_Keeper

20:44 <MTughan> xcamel: Nice guise.

20:44 * Tank_Master slaps Romulus around a bit with a large trout

20:44 * sethy slaps Tank_Master around a bit with a large trout

20:44 * Tank_Master slaps sethy around a bit with a large trout

20:44 * sethy slaps MTughan around a bit with a large trout

20:44 <MTughan> WHAT?!

20:44 <Tank_Master> lol

20:44 <MTughan> &insult sethy

20:44 <Romulus> sethy - You are nothing but an it-fowling petrification of weather-bitten pods.

20:44 <sethy> i know, thankyou

20:45 <MTughan> &cyborg sethy

20:45 <Romulus> MTughan: S.E.T.H.Y.: Synthetic Electronic Technician Hardwired for Yelling

20:45 * PovAddict slaps sethy, takes the trout and puts it back into the stream

20:45 <MTughan> Heh, hardwired for yelling.

20:45 <sethy> THATS ME

20:46 <Tank_Master> lol

20:47 <Tank_Master> &cyborg Pogogunner

20:47 <Romulus> Tank_Master: P.O.G.O.G.U.N.N.E.R.: Positronic Operational Guardian Optimized for Galactic Utility, Nocturnal Nullification and Efficient Repair

20:47 <MTughan> What is the format for a MAC address? 12 hex digits?

20:47 <MTughan> Separated into 6 sections by colons?

20:47 <xcamel> Mike - so now I know how to make it work again, should I just set everything back to python 2.4?

20:47 <Tank_Master> depends on if its v4 or v6

20:47 <Tank_Master> or mac

20:47 <Tank_Master> sorry ;)

20:48 <Tank_Master> I dont remember fight off

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20:55 <xcamel> well.. off to watch hitchhikers..

20:56 * xcamel is away: Gone away for now.

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20:56 <Tank_Master> im off to watch SG atlantace

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21:31 <Soul_keeper> what's the good word ?

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21:35 <Soul_keeper> PART BIONIC !!!!!!

21:36 <MTughan> Hehe... http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080112

21:36 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1PSk> (at ars.userfriendly.org)

21:36 <MTughan> It's based on a story that's been going on for about half a week now, but it stands well enough on its own.

21:39 <Soul_keeper> THE BEAR WILL EAT YOU !!!!!!!

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21:47 <MTughan> Oh, I guess I should get BOINC up and working again... :P

21:48 <PovAddict> in an hour I'll finish this burp wu

21:48 <PovAddict> and I'll have only yoyo units left, which have deadline on the 25th

21:49 <MTughan> I just have a bunch of ABC and RS WUs here.

21:49 <PovAddict> I also have a spinhenge WU in progress but only 13 mins left on that one, and it runs along with burp

21:49 <PovAddict> so I think i'll avoid any deadline miss

21:49 <MTughan> 16 ABCs and 7 RSes.

21:49 <Romulus> so my temp is -3

21:49 <PovAddict> oh wait - you missed part of a conversation :)

21:49 <PovAddict> I'm away from the 13th to the 23rd

21:50 <MTughan> Aiee... ABCs are due on the 23rd, and each is about 8h...

21:50 <PovAddict> wow you have a lot...

21:50 <MTughan> &math convert [math calc 8 * 16] hours to days

21:50 <Romulus> MTughan: 5.33333333333

21:50 <PovAddict> I was going to do:

21:50 <PovAddict> &google calc 16 * 8 hours

21:50 <Romulus> PovAddict: 16 * 8 hours = 5.33333333 days

21:50 <MTughan> Oh, plenty of time going 24/7.

21:50 <MTughan> &math convert [math calc 8 * 23] hours to days

21:50 <Romulus> MTughan: 7.66666666667

21:51 <MTughan> Each RS WU is 8h too.

21:51 <PovAddict> running on a dualcore?

21:51 <MTughan> And due two minutes later...

21:51 <MTughan> Ah, right... Single with HT.

21:51 <MTughan> This is my P4 w/ Fedora.

21:51 <PovAddict> how many RS and how long each?

21:52 <MTughan> Haven't really given it much though actually... Been running quite well, almost no problems, for three and a half years...

21:52 <MTughan> 7 RS WUs and 16 ABCs. All of them are about 8h apiece.

21:52 <PovAddict> &google calc (16 * 8 hours + 7 * 8 hours) / 2

21:52 <Romulus> PovAddict: ((16 * (8 hours)) + (7 * (8 hours))) / 2 = 3.83333333 days

21:52 <PovAddict> / 2 because you run two at a time

21:53 <MTughan> Yeah.

21:53 <PovAddict> so plenty of time

21:53 <MTughan> Although it might not finish two WUs in 8h.

21:57 <sethy> PovAddict

21:57 <PovAddict> what

21:57 <sethy> dcc'ing you

22:01 <sethy> &nn

22:01 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

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22:06 <PovAddict> &fetch http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar/

22:06 <Romulus> PovAddict: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2 Final/

22:22 <PovAddict> bye all

22:23 <PovAddict> I'm back the 23rd; I may or may not connect tomorrow

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23:25 <DonnieP> /window show 2

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23:41 <MTughan> Anyone know when BS updates their stats?

23:41 <Soul_keeper> i think it used to be like 10am or something ...  lemme check

23:42 <Soul_keeper> Page cached at 2008-01-13 04:41:39

23:42 <Soul_keeper> i dunno

23:42 <MTughan> That's probably GMT.

23:43 <MTughan> Wait, that was only about an hour ago...

23:43 <Soul_keeper> At 15:00GMT each day all new info from the XML files is imported into the BOINCstats database.

23:43 <Soul_keeper> it's in the FAQ

23:43 <MTughan> 9AM here... Okay, thanks.

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23:44 <Soul_keeper> The same update, but then just for hosts, runs each day at 1:00GMT, and takes about five hours to complete.

23:44 <MTughan> Well, it's a lot of data to collect and consolidate.

23:46 <Soul_keeper> lol so you think i should install boinc on my P3 900 celeron ?

23:47 <MTughan> Why not?

23:48 <efc> Probably will do fine if its not a cache heavy project

23:48 <Soul_keeper> so boinc uses svn now ?

23:48 <Soul_keeper> what's the site for the tarballs ?

23:50 <MTughan> Any sources in here, or is it just binaries? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/

23:50 <Romulus> Title: Index of /dl (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

23:50 <Soul_keeper> yeah looks like all binaries

23:51 <MTughan> If not, I don't think there are any tarballs. Why can't you use SVN?

23:51 <Soul_keeper> because i want to know that i have the same version accross my network

23:51 <MTughan> Download it once and tarball that then.

23:52 <MTughan> Or do you already have it rolled out across some machines?

23:52 <Soul_keeper> i guess i could do that ...

23:52 <Soul_keeper> but i want to compare benchmark results to other people

23:52 <MTughan> How come you can't use binaries then?

23:52 <MTughan> Gonna optimize it?

23:52 <Soul_keeper> because they are inferior

23:52 <Soul_keeper> yeah

23:53 <Soul_keeper> last time i did this, think i got like 20% performance boost over the binaries

23:53 <MTughan> You may have to match a revision number to a version then.

23:54 <Soul_keeper> i don't like this

23:54 <Soul_keeper> the website used to have tarballs only 2 months or something ago

23:55 <MTughan> They may be there, I've just never stumbled across them.

23:57 <Soul_keeper> i exists, wish they would put the link in the topic here

23:57 <Soul_keeper> it*

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