IRC logs of #boinc for Tuesday, 2008-01-15

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00:16 <mweltin> anyone here what to give some DNS advice?

00:17 <Tank_Master> mw!

00:17 <mweltin> Tank I think I got the DNS worked out.

00:17 <mweltin> not sure

00:18 <Tank_Master> coo

00:18 <mweltin> I had to spend the day programming some other stuff (mql4) so I haven't been on tsp or boinc all day

00:18 <mweltin> looks like the end of the week will be a go as far as the hosting switch.

00:18 <mweltin> I'm going to post some news to night about it.

00:20 <mweltin> dinner bbl

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00:20 <Tank_Master> hf

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00:49 <Soul_keeper> http://www.couponmountain.com/

00:49 <Romulus> Title: Dell Coupons, Free Online Coupon Codes, Dell Computer Deals & More Discounts at CouponMountain.com (at www.couponmountain.com)

00:49 <Tank_Master> nice

01:03 <zombie67> mweltin!

01:03 <zombie67> it's bad form when you don't even join your own channel....

01:03 <zombie67> ;)

01:03 <Tank_Master> LOL

01:03 <Tank_Master> wasnt gonna say anything

01:04 <zombie67> brb

01:06 <zombie67> back

01:06 <Tank_Master> wb.

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01:39 <Bad_At_Home> &weather 86023

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01:39 <Bad_At_Home> &more

01:39 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: in the afternoon.; Tuesday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows around 21 on the North Rim to around 35 along the Colorado River. Light winds.;

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01:40 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: mph in the afternoon.; Tuesday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows 15 to 25. West winds around 15 mph early in the evening becoming light...then becoming northwest around 15 mph early in the morning.;

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02:15 <mweltin> hey HEY

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04:05 <FreeLarry58> &weather 98366

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04:06 <clusty> mweltin, hey. do you happen to run your own project?

04:06 <FreeLarry58> &more

04:06 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: sunny. A chance of morning snow showers. Highs in the mid 30s to lower 40s. North wind 5 to 15 mph.; Tuesday Night - Partly cloudy. Patchy fog. Lows in the 20s. Light wind.;

04:06 <mweltin> lots of help from this channel

04:06 <clusty> yeeey

04:06 <clusty> trying to get started on my project.

04:07 <clusty> think you could answer a few questions?

04:07 <mweltin> cool

04:07 <mweltin> I can try, but you really want povaddict to answer your questions.

04:07 <clusty> not here :D

04:07 <clusty> so i wrote my first app

04:07 <FreeLarry58> hes on vacation till 23rd

04:08 <mweltin> nice

04:08 <clusty> oki. thanks. will pile up all questions i can't solve till then

04:08 <mweltin> I'll  try to answer then

04:08 <clusty> the client crunches but never reports task as complete

04:08 <clusty> why might this be?

04:09 <mweltin> does it finish?

04:09 <clusty> yes

04:09 <clusty> 100%

04:09 <clusty> nbo errors

04:09 <clusty> no*

04:09 <clusty> the server is running dummy assimilator and validator

04:09 <mweltin> so you just dont' get the status updates

04:09 <mweltin> there is a function boin_fraction_done that needs to be called for the client to show its progress.

04:10 <clusty> means my app is not doing all the work it should be?

04:10 <clusty> ohh ritte

04:10 <clusty> i did not do any checkpointing

04:10 <mweltin> checkpointing is something different altogether.

04:10 <clusty> so i shoudl call fraction done at end?

04:11 <mweltin> no no point in that at the end its 100% done.

04:11 <mweltin> I have a genetic algorithm that runs for 10+ hours

04:12 <mweltin> people hate to see the progress just sit there, they think its not working.

04:12 <clusty> this is a SVD matrix decomposition

04:12 <mweltin> SVD?

04:12 <clusty> task can't be broken in smaller chunks

04:12 <clusty> singular value decomposition

04:12 <mweltin> you don't hae any loops in the program?

04:12 <clusty> nope

04:12 <clusty> raead file

04:13 <clusty> assemble matrices

04:13 <clusty> crunch

04:13 <mweltin> so the way boinc_fraction_done is called with a double.

04:13 <clusty> so how can I make it go away alltogether from client?

04:13 <mweltin> can't

04:13 <mweltin> you could call the b_f_d(.25) after the read.

04:14 <mweltin> the .5 after the assemble

04:14 <FreeLarry58> clusty i hope that your project can suspend at least

04:14 <clusty> it can

04:14 <clusty> but does not :D

04:14 <FreeLarry58> good

04:14 <clusty> its still not open to public

04:14 <FreeLarry58> short units?

04:14 <clusty> for now

04:14 <mweltin> FreeLarry, can you look at my dns entry?

04:14 <FreeLarry58> lol have been in some of those before

04:14 <mweltin> don't make them too short

04:15 <mweltin> there are two http calls for every workunit

04:15 <mweltin> you can over load your netword.

04:15 <mweltin> network*

04:15 <clusty> i will increase it once proj is running properly

04:15 <mweltin> I had some 0.2 sec WU's for a while

04:15 <clusty> will give 1-2h/workuniit

04:15 <clusty> cause not in the mood to checkpoint

04:15 <mweltin> you will have to do some kind of checkpointing

04:16 <clusty> i will have to reimplement SVD

04:16 <FreeLarry58> this dns? satala-canopy106.bluelink.as

04:16 <clusty> which is no fun

04:16 <clusty> as, which country is that?

04:16 <mweltin> FreeLarry, I have a copy of my new DNS from xname.org

04:16 <FreeLarry58> american soma

04:16 <mweltin> let me find the pastebin.

04:16 <FreeLarry58> ahh

04:17 <mweltin> good old AS

04:17 <mweltin> http://pastebin.com/m153bb4da

04:17 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)

04:18 <mweltin> so what I want is anything for *.myisland.as to go to the 209. address.

04:18 <mweltin> I'm tyring to get google apps to take care of mail

04:18 <mweltin> so I made what I think is an alias to all the google mailserver

04:18 <mweltin> so clusty what other questions do you have.

04:19 <mweltin> here is a good tip I got from Pov.

04:19 <clusty> preety much this one :D

04:19 <clusty> but its not done

04:19 <clusty> :D

04:19 <mweltin> ok shoot

04:19 <clusty> task is 100% in boinc client

04:19 <clusty> new task is waiting

04:19 <clusty> but first one wont go away

04:19 <Romulus> ok, problem seems to be crunching at about 7h apiece now.

04:20 <mweltin> which view are you in for the boinc manager

04:20 <mweltin> grid view?

04:20 <mweltin> is client and server on the same box?

04:21 <clusty> nope

04:21 <clusty> not same box

04:21 <clusty> and using advanved view

04:21 <mweltin> a task will sit in the task window at 100% until its uploaded.

04:21 <mweltin> thats the one with all the tabs right.

04:21 <mweltin> what version ?

04:21 <mweltin> I have 5.10.21

04:22 <clusty> 5.10.8

04:22 <mweltin> and its called grid view

04:22 <mweltin> close enough

04:22 <clusty> using package from ubuntu

04:22 <mweltin> you may wnat to update.

04:22 <clusty> yes tabbed one

04:22 <clusty> compile latest one from SVN?

04:22 <clusty> that coems with server?

04:23 <mweltin> are you asking or telling me.

04:23 <clusty> asking :D

04:23 <mweltin> I have a personal bias against packages but I won't go into that here.

04:23 <mweltin> anyway 5.10.8 is good enough.

04:23 <clusty> ok masta. will do as you advise

04:23 <clusty> :D

04:24 <mweltin> LOL

04:24 <clusty> can i just copy new app into downloads

04:24 <mweltin> now if I could just get my GF to say that.

04:24 <clusty> i mean i added a few lines of code

04:24 <clusty> LOOL

04:24 <mweltin> no

04:24 <clusty> or i gotta ioncrement version

04:24 <clusty> ?

04:24 <clusty> necessarilly

04:24 <mweltin> any change you make you have to resign the app and increment the version number

04:24 <clusty> ok

04:25 <mweltin> any change no matter how small.

04:25 <clusty> nothing is easy

04:25 <clusty> :D

04:25 <mweltin> well it could be harder

04:25 <mweltin> just wait until you upgrade your server

04:25 <FreeLarry58> so mweltin is that all free service now?

04:25 <mweltin> yes, xname.org

04:26 <mweltin> most of the free ones had a host limit.

04:26 <Romulus> running fine in firefox

04:26 <mweltin> or didn't work at all, or had limitations on the types of records you could make.

04:26 <FreeLarry58> humm may check them out then - yea even dyndns limits to 5 hosts

04:26 <FreeLarry58> but does have cname

04:27 <mweltin> these guys have IP6 and the PTR

04:27 <mweltin> and as many hosts as you want.

04:27 <mweltin> I checked over a dozzen of those free sites.

04:27 <mweltin> this one is farily tight.

04:27 <FreeLarry58> ahh so only thing you have to pay for then is domain name?

04:27 <ELGono> moo

04:27 <FreeLarry58> moo ELGono

04:27 <clusty> mweltin, grrrrr

04:27 <mweltin> if you are a commercial site yo uhave to pay.

04:28 <FreeLarry58> lol yeah

04:28 <mweltin> whats wrong clusty

04:28 <clusty> mweltin, even after b_f_d calls the task does not go away

04:28 <clusty> lemme recompile new client

04:28 <mweltin> yeah thats not going to make the task go away, I thought you had a different problem.

04:28 <mweltin> check the messages tab.

04:29 <clusty> no signs of reporting task?

04:29 <mweltin> anything like this Error on file upload: can't open log file ?

04:29 <clusty> nope

04:29 <clusty> can i upload app

04:29 <clusty> so you can take a look

04:29 <clusty> that i aint doing any evil stuff?

04:29 <clusty> pastebin

04:30 <mweltin> sure

04:30 <mweltin> I'd be happy to

04:30 <mweltin> doubt it's you app though.   It runs fine from the command line I assume?

04:30 <clusty> http://pastebin.com/ma9db91d

04:30 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)

04:30 <clusty> before i added the boinc name resolution stuff

04:31 <clusty> did not check after

04:31 <mweltin> check it again just to make sure, the resolution will not make a difference.

04:32 <clusty> everythign is honky dorry :D

04:32 <mweltin> ok what kind of box is the client on?

04:32 <clusty> ubuntu32

04:33 <mweltin> so does it look good FreeLarry

04:33 <FreeLarry58> to me it does mweltin

04:33 <mweltin> clusty, ok cool go to the slots dir

04:33 <clusty> mweltin, slots?

04:33 <FreeLarry58> but im not a guru either maybe ask CoderForLife when he shows up latr

04:34 <clusty> woow i've been blessed

04:34 <FreeLarry58> &nn all wife calling

04:34 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

04:34 <mweltin> FreeLarry, thanks I will

04:34 <clusty> 2 guys that know boinc dev:D

04:34 <clusty> :D

04:34 <clusty> been roaming for like 2 weeks now with not much success

04:34 <mweltin> go to the dir that you run the manager from

04:34 <clusty> ok

04:35 <clusty> and?

04:35 <mweltin> in there there should be a slots dir

04:35 <clusty> you mean boinc manager client?

04:35 <clusty> or server?

04:35 <mweltin> client

04:36 <mweltin> the slots dir is where the client will run your app

04:36 <mweltin> we are going to look ther to make sure we have an "out" file.

04:36 <clusty> mweltin, where might this dir be? :D

04:36 <mweltin> then at least we will confirm that the app is not the problem.

04:37 <FreeLarry58> hows this machine looking now that it has a few days running http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_host_graph.php?pr=bo&id=3274650

04:37 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1PQy> (at boincstats.com)

04:37 <mweltin> well for me I make a dir called /home/mweltin/BOINC and in that I have

04:37 <mweltin> boincmgr

04:37 <mweltin> as well as the run_client and run_manager

04:38 <mweltin> you can run the find command to look for it

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04:38 <mweltin> find /somepath -name slots

04:39 <mweltin> the path doesn't need to be the root /

04:39 <mweltin> but maybe your home dir would be a good palce to start

04:39 <clusty> not im home\

04:39 <clusty> cehcked

04:40 <mweltin> where is the client installed ?

04:40 <mweltin> that is the app that will create the slots dir.

04:41 <clusty> boinc is allover

04:41 <clusty> :D

04:41 <clusty> starting as service

04:41 <clusty> damn

04:41 <clusty> lemme selfcompile a client

04:41 <mweltin> no

04:42 <mweltin> how about find / -name boincmgr

04:42 <mweltin> how big is your harddrive?

04:42 <mweltin> just curious how long I'll wait for.

04:42 <clusty> gopt it

04:42 <clusty> vat/lib/boinc-client slots

04:43 <mweltin> sweet so go to that dir

04:43 <mweltin> there will be a few numbered dirs.

04:43 <clusty> there is a 0

04:43 <clusty> boinc_lockfile  in  init_data.xml  out  stderr.txt  svd_gsl_4.1_i686-pc-linux-gnu

04:43 <clusty> are files inside

04:44 <mweltin> cool so you got an out file

04:44 <clusty> is empty

04:44 <clusty> actually sais <soft_link>../../projects/algorithmica.is-a-geek.com_boincanator/1svd2_2_0</soft_link>

04:44 <clusty> not my usual output

04:44 <mweltin> mmmmmm well you do open it early

04:44 <mweltin> no

04:44 <mweltin> but that is what it should say

04:44 <mweltin> should is in its not your normal outfile

04:45 <clusty> oki

04:45 <clusty> so means assimilator is not doing job?

04:45 <mweltin> well if the client isn't uploading them the assimilator can't do its job.

04:46 <mweltin> go to your project dir

04:46 <mweltin> there should be a file dir log_HOSTNAME

04:46 <clusty> is there

04:46 <clusty> which log is interesting?

04:47 <mweltin> well the cgi log is but there is a ton of stuff

04:47 <mweltin> is the project running now?

04:47 <clusty> yes

04:47 <mweltin> ok run tail -f cgi.log

04:48 <clusty> http://pastebin.com/m39b0c08b

04:48 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)

04:49 <mweltin> lets look the assimilator

04:50 <mweltin> that log didn't show much

04:50 <mweltin> hwo are you workunits named?

04:50 <clusty> 1svd2

04:50 <mweltin> is there anything in there?

04:51 <clusty> and 1svd3

04:51 <mweltin> you just have two workunits?

04:51 <clusty> yes

04:51 <clusty> active

04:51 <mweltin> ok, what is the quorum?

04:51 <clusty> queue?

04:51 <mweltin> and the ntarget

04:52 <clusty> ohh

04:52 <clusty> ok

04:52 <Romulus> slaps Kingzilla around a bit with a large trout

04:52 <mweltin> how many results does each workunit get turned into, and how many valid results do you need before you assimilate the result.

04:53 <mweltin> LOl

04:53 <clusty> ./bin/create_work -appname svd_gsl -wu_name 1svd3 -wu_template templates/work_unit_template -result_template templates/result_template -min_quorum 1 -target_nresults 2 -rsc_fpops_bound 9999999999999999999999999 in

04:53 <clusty> ohh fok

04:53 <mweltin> we whouls have starte with the web interface

04:53 <mweltin> lalalala

04:53 <clusty> fok

04:53 <clusty> fok

04:53 <clusty> fok

04:53 <clusty> need second result

04:54 <clusty> whats quorum?

04:54 <mweltin> min quorum is the number of valid results you need before you assimilate

04:55 <mweltin> yours is 1, so you should have no problem

04:55 <mweltin> look at the validator log

04:56 <mweltin> clearly you are sending out work

04:56 <mweltin> this think just smacks of a permissions issue but I don't konw where.

04:56 <mweltin> if it was the upload file your client would have complained.

04:58 <clusty> Tue 15 Jan 2008 10:57:35 AM CET|Boinc@Algorithmica|Reason: Unrecoverable error for result 1svd5_0 (<file_xfer_error>  <file_name>1svd5_0_0</file_name>  <error_code>-131</error_code></file_xfer_error>)

04:58 <clusty> is what sais now

04:58 <clusty> arghhhh

04:58 <clusty> damn this suse

04:58 <Romulus> then why would that be?

04:58 <clusty> is killing me

04:59 <mweltin> mmmm

04:59 <mweltin> ok

04:59 <mweltin> lets go the the browser

04:59 <clusty> 2008-01-15 10:56:12.9590 [PID=2642 ] [normal  ]   [HOST#1] [RESULT#34 1svd5_0] got result (DB: server_state=4 outcome=0 client_state=0 validate_state=0 delete_state=0)

04:59 <clusty> from cgi.log

04:59 <clusty> means dbase error?

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05:00 <mweltin> no, if you coudln't read/write to the database you couldnt make a WU to start with.

05:00 <clusty> http://pastebin.com/m14926489

05:01 <mweltin> open you browser and go to the ops section

05:01 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)

05:01 <clusty> is what "grep for WU" gives

05:01 <clusty> from webpage

05:02 <mweltin> you are at the admin site right ?

05:03 <clusty> YES

05:03 <clusty> oops

05:03 <clusty> btw

05:03 <clusty> want me to lift restrictions for a sec so you can see for yourself >?

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05:04 <mweltin> ok, we want to look up the WU lsvd5

05:04 <mweltin> no

05:04 <clusty> yes 1svd5

05:04 <mweltin> this is good practice for me

05:04 <mweltin> click on the workunit and in the additional clauese

05:04 <mweltin> enter

05:05 <mweltin> name like 'lsvd5'

05:05 <clusty> oki

05:05 <mweltin> did you get a response?

05:06 * CoderForLife falls out of bed

05:06 <CoderForLife> ouchmorning

05:06 <mweltin> hey cfl!!

05:06 <mweltin> take some asprin and go back to bed.

05:07 <mweltin> how are you with DNS?

05:07 <mweltin> do you want to check something out for me?

05:07 <mweltin> clusty, how is that search going?

05:07 <CoderForLife> unfortunately, I must make some money to pay for aspirin

05:07 <clusty> mweltin, nothing

05:07 <mweltin> it's found naturally in the bark and bows of willow trees

05:07 <clusty> mweltin, arghhh

05:07 <mweltin> what?

05:08 <CoderForLife> I *just* woke up

05:08 <mweltin> apparetly you work up and started typing

05:08 <CoderForLife> sleep-typing

05:08 <CoderForLife> sleep-IRCing

05:08 <mweltin> clusty, dont fill out any additinal clauses and just hit ok

05:09 * mweltin give cfl a ticket for disorderly irc'ing

05:09 <CoderForLife> hungry...  brb  breakfast

05:10 <mweltin> clusty, tell me you get a list of WU's you have created.

05:10 <clusty> mweltin, its there in the list

05:10 <clusty> mweltin, the workunit i created

05:10 <mweltin> sweet

05:10 <mweltin> click on the WU ID

05:11 <mweltin> on the far left

05:11 <clusty> yeap

05:11 <clusty> full detail?

05:11 <mweltin> it says two results

05:11 <mweltin> yes

05:11 <mweltin> full detail

05:11 <mweltin> that is what we want

05:12 <clusty> yeap

05:12 <clusty> 2 results

05:12 <mweltin> sweet

05:12 <mweltin> how many unsent ?

05:12 <clusty> none

05:12 <mweltin> In Progress ?

05:13 <mweltin> these are all server states I'm asking for.

05:13 <clusty> lemme create a new WU, cause this one i might have foked. aborted on client side

05:14 <mweltin> did you abort it manually?

05:15 <clusty> yes

05:15 <mweltin> ok do you know of any that you didn't?

05:15 <mweltin> I mean you are only up to 5 so how many coudl there be.

05:15 <clusty> nope. aborted all and cancelled all. created just an extra one fresh

05:16 <mweltin> well that could be part of the problem.

05:16 <clusty> meaning?

05:16 <mweltin> no reason to upload a cancled WU

05:16 <clusty> i mean i created 1 new which was not cancelled nor aborted

05:17 <clusty> new task has these params:

05:17 <mweltin> you just created it just now right?

05:17 <clusty> yes

05:17 <clusty> 1 in progress

05:17 <clusty> 0 unsent

05:17 <clusty> 1 result

05:17 <mweltin> ok this is lsvd6

05:18 <CoderForLife> b

05:18 <clusty> lsvd7

05:18 <mweltin> ok

05:18 <mweltin> and how long do these take?

05:18 <mweltin> welcome back cfl

05:18 <clusty> half a sec

05:18 <mweltin> did you get you coffee?

05:18 <mweltin> ok

05:19 <mweltin> so its done

05:19 <clusty> yeap

05:19 <clusty> 100%

05:19 <clusty> still there

05:19 <mweltin> ok refresh the page

05:19 <mweltin> still there in the client

05:19 <mweltin> I assume

05:19 <clusty> refresh ops page?

05:19 <clusty> or update client?

05:19 <mweltin> yes ops page

05:20 <clusty> same

05:20 <clusty> 1 in progess

05:20 <clusty> all others 0

05:20 <mweltin> ok

05:20 <mweltin> lets go back to the client for a min

05:21 <clusty> ok

05:21 <mweltin> look at the messgages for the download of lsvd7

05:21 <mweltin> _0

05:22 <clusty> no such message

05:22 <clusty> for 0

05:22 <clusty> just 1svd7 started message

05:22 <clusty> started lsvd7_0

05:22 <clusty> found it

05:23 <clusty> back in 5 sec

05:23 <mweltin> so the WU gets turned into two results _0 and _1

05:23 <mweltin> ok

05:24 <mweltin> cfl you still there?

05:24 <clusty> 1 result

05:24 <clusty> not 2

05:24 <clusty> just 1

05:24 <mweltin> thats fine

05:25 <clusty> cause i said 1 result

05:25 <clusty> 1 quorum

05:25 <mweltin> good

05:25 <mweltin> ok

05:25 <clusty> but why is the assim not called

05:25 <mweltin> just ot recap, it shows 100% done in the task list.

05:25 <clusty> yes

05:26 <mweltin> it has to be

05:26 <mweltin> that is just the order

05:26 <clusty> 100% in task list

05:26 <clusty> status running

05:26 <mweltin> once the validator is doen the assimilator takes over and cleans up after itself.

05:27 <clusty> ouch

05:27 <clusty> lemme check then validator

05:27 <mweltin> ok

05:27 <clusty> might be task is too small?

05:27 <clusty> and does not validate?

05:27 <mweltin> lets give it some time to finish.

05:27 <clusty> its the sample dummy one

05:27 <mweltin> sample dummy validates anything.

05:27 <CoderForLife> bbiab

05:28 <mweltin> thats its job

05:28 <mweltin> later cfl

05:28 <clusty> mweltin, btw wanted to tahnk you for having the patience with me

05:28 <mweltin> client and server are the same OS?

05:28 <clusty> mweltin, i imagine you crunched your teeth a few times

05:28 <clusty> :D

05:28 <mweltin> no worries

05:28 <clusty> nope

05:29 <mweltin> LOL still do

05:29 <clusty> linux both

05:29 <mweltin> cloes enough.

05:29 <clusty> ubuntu=client

05:29 <clusty> suse=server

05:29 <mweltin> have you tried to run the app from the client in standalone mode, i.e. from the command line?

05:30 <clusty> yes

05:30 <mweltin> that worked out well

05:30 <clusty> thats how i did it to test at your suggestion

05:30 <mweltin> cool

05:30 <clusty> app was developped on client

05:30 <mweltin> ok

05:30 <clusty> machine

05:30 <clusty> just uploaded to server

05:30 <mweltin> good idea

05:32 <mweltin> coudl you post the link to the source code again?

05:33 <mweltin> are there any new messages in the client?

05:33 <clusty> http://pastebin.com/ma9db91d

05:33 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)

05:33 <mweltin> thanks

05:34 <clusty> just that no more work

05:34 <clusty> and defering communication

05:34 <clusty> maybe make a new task?

05:34 <clusty> i meam WU

05:34 <mweltin> no

05:34 <mweltin> I'm running out of things to look for

05:35 <mweltin> lets try the windows approach

05:35 <mweltin> go to the projects tab and "reset project"

05:35 <clusty> plug and pray?\

05:35 <clusty> detach from proj?

05:35 <mweltin> no

05:35 <mweltin> just reset

05:35 <clusty> reset

05:35 <clusty> :D

05:35 <clusty> what does it do?

05:35 <clusty> did

05:36 <mweltin> re-reads the proj preferences, and restes to communication clock, and I assume other things but I'm not sure.

05:36 <mweltin> any error messages?

05:36 <mweltin> in the message window

05:37 <clusty> made client to crash :D

05:37 <clusty> had to restart

05:37 <clusty> no errors

05:37 <mweltin> maybe we should think about an update for the client

05:37 <mweltin> I'm running out of ideas.

05:38 <mweltin> well lets go over our assumptions agin.

05:38 <mweltin> we can create a workunit fine

05:38 <clusty> yeap

05:38 <mweltin> and results are downloaded to the client

05:38 <clusty> proggie crunches fine

05:39 <mweltin> and the workunit are short so it's nto a real big shock that the task reaches 100% quickly.

05:39 <mweltin> what is odd is that it stays in "running" mode

05:40 <clusty> weird part is that the sample app upper_case does not boinc_init

05:40 <clusty> and boinc_done

05:41 <clusty> or whatever

05:41 <mweltin> really?

05:41 <clusty> i did those since on boinc site they said i should

05:41 <clusty> yeap

05:41 <mweltin> yeah you should

05:41 <mweltin> hold on a sec let me check my stuff

05:41 <clusty> so why is the WU not fed to me again?

05:42 <mweltin> well you only made one result last time.

05:42 <mweltin> and you canceled all the others.

05:42 <clusty> yes

05:42 <clusty> now the running one is neither done nor available to be sent

05:42 <clusty> is some garbage colelctor not supposed to dump it?

05:43 <mweltin> I'm not sure what you mean, are you at the ops site?

05:44 <clusty> yes

05:44 <clusty> still in progress

05:44 <clusty> the work unit

05:44 <mweltin> yes that is correct

05:44 <clusty> rite

05:45 <clusty> has 1 day to expire

05:45 <mweltin> I'm going to look up boinc_finish

05:45 <clusty> ok

05:45 <mweltin> you call it with a value, and I call it with 0

05:46 <clusty> i could do that

05:46 <clusty> i called it with return of worker

05:46 <clusty> which normally finishes with 0

05:46 <clusty> lemme redo it

05:46 <mweltin> ok never mind

05:46 <mweltin> no

05:46 <mweltin> lets keep as few variables changing.

05:47 <clusty> ok

05:49 <mweltin> even if boinc_finish was called with a non-zero value it should still upload

05:49 <mweltin> what did you use to compile this?

05:49 <mweltin> gcc ?

05:49 <clusty> g++

05:50 <clusty> yeah

05:50 <mweltin> ever use gdb ?

05:50 <clusty> in general yes when code seg faults

05:50 <clusty> :D

05:50 <clusty> not for this

05:51 <Romulus> most of the links i'm supposed to click

05:51 <clusty> Romulus, funny bot you are

05:51 <Romulus> clusty: Are you daft?

05:51 <clusty> :D

05:52 <mweltin> this has nothing to do with anything, but doesn't gcc require main to have a non void return value?

05:53 <clusty> it depends

05:53 <CoderForLife> ack -  got to go

05:53 <CoderForLife> later

05:53 <mweltin> later

05:53 <clusty> bye

05:53 <clusty> think in pedantic mode it cries

05:54 <clusty> should i make it return something?

05:54 <mweltin> at this point I'm wondering if we should update you client. But 5.10.8 isn't that old.

05:54 <mweltin> we shouldn't have to

05:54 <mweltin> maybe I should try to attach to the project

05:54 <clusty> go ahead

05:55 <clusty> http://algorithmica.is-a-geek.com/boincanator

05:55 <Romulus> Title: REPLACE WITH PROJECT NAME (at algorithmica.is-a-geek.com)

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05:55 <clusty> you can reg as well

05:56 <mweltin> is there a router between the two boxes?

05:56 <clusty> probably

05:56 <clusty> not sure

05:56 <clusty> surelly

05:56 <mweltin> ok

05:57 <clusty> actually no

05:57 <clusty> same class of ip's

05:57 <mweltin> mmmmmmm missing or bad parameter: user_name

05:57 <mweltin> I failed to attache

05:57 <mweltin> what version of the server are you running?

05:57 <clusty> latest svn from last week

05:57 <clusty> :

05:57 <clusty> :D

05:57 <mweltin> ok

05:58 <clusty> did you give it a email address

05:58 <clusty> even bogus one?

05:58 <mweltin> yes I gave it my real one

05:59 <clusty> lemme try to reattach with diff username

05:59 <mweltin> I'm tyring the manual account creation

06:00 <clusty> i reattached with new user

06:00 <clusty> got a markus

06:00 <clusty> :D

06:00 <mweltin> I did that from your web interface.

06:00 <mweltin> ok I'm attached now

06:01 <mweltin> suspend you client and create a new WU

06:01 <clusty> cancel existing one?

06:02 <mweltin> no

06:02 <clusty> lsvd8 is yours

06:02 <mweltin> I got lsd7_1

06:03 <clusty> its the old shite

06:03 <wdsmia> asks clusty to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

06:03 <clusty> oops

06:03 <clusty> sorry

06:03 <mweltin> download fails

06:04 <clusty> download of what?

06:04 <clusty> application?

06:05 <mweltin> couldn't get inputilfe svd_gsl_4.2_i686-pc-linux-gnu

06:05 <mweltin> thats the app

06:05 <mweltin> it's not the input file

06:05 <clusty> sec

06:05 <clusty> i screwed up serv

06:05 <mweltin> I'm wondering if it is your WU or RESULT template.

06:05 <Romulus> asks clusty to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

06:06 <clusty> try again pls

06:07 <clusty> the harsh lang filter is quite PG13 as it seems

06:07 <mweltin> dont' swet it unless he is really here.

06:08 <mweltin> the channel ops are nice and will warn you long before they kick you out.

06:08 <mweltin> but they are serious about the language thing.

06:08 <mweltin> I op of the F' this and S' that

06:08 <clusty> i admit i have a foul mouth

06:08 <mweltin> seems to go over ok.

06:09 <clusty> crunched?

06:09 <mweltin> post your templates

06:09 <mweltin> exit code 127

06:10 <clusty> http://pastebin.com/m7a0e585d

06:10 <mweltin> its crashing somewhere

06:10 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)

06:10 <clusty> took some stuff from a tutorial

06:10 <clusty> wooow

06:10 <clusty> upload_URL

06:11 <clusty> i gotta write something there i assume :D

06:11 <mweltin> helps

06:11 <clusty> so is it: http://algorithmica.is-a-geek.com/boincanator/downloads?

06:11 <clusty> whats this URL?

06:12 <mweltin> where are you talking about?

06:12 <clusty> in results_template

06:12 <clusty> there is a stanza saying:    <url><UPLOAD_URL/></url>

06:12 <mweltin> thats right

06:12 <clusty> ohh its fine

06:13 <clusty> its a special statement not a string

06:13 <mweltin> it gets it from dome config file

06:13 <mweltin> yes

06:14 <mweltin> you didn't build it staticly

06:14 <mweltin> ./svd_gsl_4.3_i686-pc-linux-gnu: error while loading shared libraries: libgsl.so.0: ca

06:14 <clusty> app

06:14 <mweltin> not open shared object file: No such file or directory

06:14 <clusty> crap

06:14 <mweltin> you have to build your apps staticly

06:14 <clusty> how do i build statically

06:14 <mweltin> -static

06:14 <clusty> this is next step actually: gotta start making multifile apps

06:15 <mweltin> one step at a time

06:15 <mweltin> ok its past my bed time.

06:15 <mweltin> I have to hit the hay, but we know what is wrong and that is half the battle.

06:16 <mweltin> what is libgsl ?

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06:17 <clusty> sure

06:17 <clusty> statically

06:17 <clusty> libgsl is the backend that computes SVD

06:17 <mweltin> I'll be back in about 8 hours

06:17 <clusty> gsl=gnu scientific lib

06:17 <clusty> see you tomorrow

06:17 <clusty> :D

06:17 <mweltin> what time zone are you in?

06:17 <clusty> thanx for help

06:17 <clusty> germany

06:17 <clusty> think its gmt+2

06:18 <clusty> or +1

06:18 <clusty> 12:18 now

06:18 <mweltin> ok we are about 12 hrs appart

06:18 <clusty> PM

06:18 <mweltin> yeah

06:18 <clusty> gnite

06:18 <clusty> i will dig more

06:18 <mweltin> I'll see you around 8pm if you need more help.

06:18 <clusty> thanks a bunch

06:18 <clusty> will try to be online

06:18 <mweltin> you are welcome

06:19 <mweltin> gcc -static should do the trick

06:20 <mweltin> g++ $(DEBUG) -static $(INC)  bruteForce.cpp $(LIB) -o tsp

06:20 <mweltin> that is my build line from my makefile

06:20 <mweltin> inc is just include directories

06:21 <mweltin> and lib has a bunch of object files, expat pthread and boinc libs.

06:21 <mweltin> ok

06:21 <mweltin> good night.

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06:22 <wdsmia> &weather 50265

06:22 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 6F / -14C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 30.25in / 1024hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. High in the mid 20s. South wind near 10 mph shifting to the southeast in the afternoon.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Not as cold. Low in the lower 20s. South wind 10 to 15 mph.; Wednesday - Cloudy. A slight chance of snow in the (1 more message)

06:22 <wdsmia> &more

06:22 <Romulus> wdsmia: morning...then a chance of snow in the afternoon. High around 30. West wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the northwest 10 to 15 mph in the afternoon. Chance of snow 50 percent.;

06:30 <hawmps> 'mornin

06:30 <wdsmia> mornin Jay

06:35 <ELGono> lo doug & jay

06:36 <ELGono> jay, found sisters flat in berlin in birdseye hehe

06:36 <wdsmia> mornin Gono

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06:43 <hawmps> lol

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07:01 <ELGono> and jansd house as well

07:01 <ELGono> -d

07:09 <hawmps> I got the birdseye to within 400' of my property line - one shows a couple of my hay fields - that's about it.

07:16 <ELGono> hehe

07:17 <ELGono> was hard to find jans, caus i don't remember the roads name ... but i found her green volvo

07:17 <Romulus> contains the shell script

07:18 <hawmps> Have you heard anything from her?

07:20 <ELGono> nope, wanted to sent christmas cards, but didn't find her adress

07:44 <CoderForLife> re-hi

07:44 <CoderForLife> I would guess that an e-mail from my server saying "Device: /dev/sda, failed to read SMART values" is not a good sign

07:47 <CoderForLife> ah-yup - she's starting to pump mud

07:47 <ELGono> oh dear

07:48 <CoderForLife> ... backups running ...

07:48 <CoderForLife> preparing to switch over to backup server, whilst I work on the main server

07:50 <CoderForLife> no auto-failover at home

07:50 <CoderForLife> 'cos I'm cheap

08:02 <hawmps> 'lo Don

08:09 <sethy> GUESS WHO HAS BAWLS :D

08:11 <sethy> nice and cold from the warehouse

08:21 <CoderForLife> hello hawmps

08:21 <CoderForLife> doing server backups before switching servers and cracking open my main box

08:21 <sethy> but i'm sethy...

08:21 <sethy> oic nvm

08:22 <CoderForLife> hello sethy

08:22 <sethy> OMGOMG HAI DON

08:22 <CoderForLife> that looks like the error message I got this morning from my SCSI array

08:23 <sethy> error message "OMGOMG HAI DON"

08:23 <sethy> ?

08:32 <hawmps> with any luck the xpc's will show up today

08:48 <CoderForLife> nice hawmps

08:48 <CoderForLife> I calculate I need about 4 quads

08:59 <CoderForLife> samba is throwing read lock errors as I copy files

09:00 <CoderForLife> sum phun

09:05 <hawmps> that kind of stinks..

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09:25 <CoderForLife> not what I planned on doing today

09:26 <CoderForLife> my employer is very kind for donating my time today

09:26 <CoderForLife> at least, I think they will be

10:05 <sethy> http://lolzing.com/Video/Truck_vs_scooter.wmv

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10:11 <linux_stu> hello

10:11 <linux_stu> my boinc client was working fine until yesterday morning

10:12 <linux_stu> now i cannot upload or download files

10:12 <clusty> sethy, ouch. its damn gory

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10:12 <sethy> a little?

10:12 <linux_stu> here is my message log http://pastebin.com/d9f49287

10:13 <linux_stu> i have two computers behind the same router, so i don't understand what it could be

10:14 <linux_stu> the computer that has stopped working has an older version of boinc on it.  someone had suggested that maybe world community grid had made some changes

10:15 <sethy> hmm i'm not too sure on the WCG but i beleive they recently upgraded to support boinc so you may need a later version of boinc?

10:15 <sethy> also what version do you have currently?

10:16 <linux_stu> 5.8.15

10:17 <linux_stu> it worked perfectly for about a month

10:17 <linux_stu> until yesterday morning

10:19 <sethy> hmm

10:20 <linux_stu> i did makes some changes to my router yesterday, but it doesn't even work when i am not behind the router

10:23 <sethy> i'm not big on wcg

10:23 <linux_stu> maybe i could try another project

10:24 <linux_stu> i am installing the binaries for the more recent version of boinc, to see if that works

10:24 <sethy> see if another project will work on the box, cos maybe there may be some faults with WCG servers or your workunits have been used up for today

10:25 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

10:25 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 33.6F / 0.9C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 30.54in / 1034.1hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Flurries in the morning. Highs around 40. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows in the 20s. Light wind.; Wednesday - Partly sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. Highs 40 to 45. (1 more message)

10:25 <Tank_Master> &more

10:25 <Romulus> Tank_Master: North wind 5 to 10 mph.;

10:27 <sethy> omgomg Tank_Master

10:27 <sethy> hai

10:29 <Tank_Master> ?

10:32 <linux_stu> now i can't freaking attach to another project

10:34 <linux_stu> i am registering for rosetta@home as a new user throught the boinc gui, and it keeps telling me "missing or bad parameter: user_name"

10:34 <linux_stu> ok well it doesn't even ask me for a user_name, just an email address and a password

10:34 <linux_stu> i tried multiple email addresses and that didn't solve anything

10:35 <Tank_Master> creat the account from the web, then attache to an existing account

10:36 <linux_stu> where do i create the account on the web?

10:37 <Tank_Master> http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/create_account_form.php

10:37 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1PqM> (at boinc.bakerlab.org)

10:40 <linux_stu> well i am able to download rosetta wu's just fine

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11:08 <CoderForLife> What's sum phun is making a backup of a failing drive.  Beating it while it's dying...

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11:18 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86023

11:18 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 14F / -10C | Humidity: 71% | Pressure: 30.33in / 1027hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h ; Today - Partly cloudy. Highs around 42 on the North Rim to around 58 along the Colorado River. Light winds becoming west around 15 mph late in the afternoon.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows around 19 on the North Rim to around 33 along the Colorado River. (1 more message)

11:18 <BadBarbarian> &more

11:18 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Light winds.; Wednesday - Much colder. Partly cloudy. Highs around 23 on the North Rim to around 39 along the Colorado River. North winds around 15 mph.;

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11:37 <hawmps> coolies...

11:37 <FreeLarry58> &weather 98366

11:37 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: Temperature: 27F / -3C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 30.59in / 1036hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny...except partly cloudy north of Seattle early this morning with a chance of snow showers. Little or no accumulation. Highs in the upper 30s to mid 40s. South wind 10 mph shifting north this morning.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Patchy fog (1 more message)

11:37 <Aeternus> hello

11:38 <FreeLarry58> &more

11:38 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: through the night. Lows in the 20s to lower 30s. Southeast wind around 10 mph.; Wednesday - Mostly sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. Highs in the upper 30s to mid 40s. Southeast wind around 10 mph.;

11:38 <FreeLarry58> lo hawmps Aeternus

11:38 <Aeternus> I've just installed the debian packages for boinc and boincmgr, what files should I copy to keep the situation that I had before with the downloaded client?

11:39 <hawmps> >> http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4151077

11:39 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1Pr8> (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)

11:39 <hawmps> :-)

11:40 <FreeLarry58> looking good jay

11:40 <hawmps> one down..

11:40 <hawmps> one to go..

11:41 <FreeLarry58> http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4138349

11:41 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1Pr-> (at setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu)

11:41 <FreeLarry58> looks like you may have speed stepping enabled on yours - i disabled it for mine

11:42 <FreeLarry58> 10% better on bm

11:42 <Romulus> yeah they tie the credit card company

11:43 <FreeLarry58> Aeternus i couldn't really tell you except maybe any of the project .xml files

11:44 <Aeternus> let me find the dir where I should put them :)

11:44 <FreeLarry58> slots and projects folders?

11:44 <FreeLarry58> that should normally be where they were before ie /wahtever/boinc/...

11:45 <Aeternus> yes, I have it in a directory now, but I installed the packaged version

11:45 <Aeternus> seems to use /etc/bonc-client

11:46 <hawmps> on mine?

11:46 <hawmps> ...I'll have to look at the bios

11:48 <FreeLarry58> mostly windows user here Aeternus but on nix machine povaddic had me set the bonc as seperate user on them so setup quite different for me

11:50 <FreeLarry58> newest machine using fedora8 with ubantu packages dl'ed to user boinc then installed in /home/boinc/boinc/....

11:51 <FreeLarry58> well time for me to depart doctors and dog groomer appts

11:51 <FreeLarry58> yah jay - in my bios eist was enabled - i disabled and got good increase on bm

11:54 <hawmps> will check on it when the updates are done

11:55 <BadBarbarian> tt vvyw8fMorning all

11:55 <BadBarbarian> opps

11:55 <BadBarbarian> lol

11:58 <desti> http://www.tuaw.com/2008/01/15/the-macworld-2008-keynote-liveblog/

11:58 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1PrF> (at www.tuaw.com)

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12:23 <E-30> hey

12:23 <desti> l0

12:24 <E-30> how are you doing

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12:46 <hawmps> doing the install for "repete"

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12:54 <E-30> lol have fun

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14:17 <MTughan_> Still at school, about another 45 minutes...

14:17 <MTughan_> Wait, I'm here after school... Got a big project to work on.

14:22 <Soul_keeper> installing boinc on all their computers ?

14:22 <MTughan_> Heh, nope. It is school related.

14:22 <MTughan_> I wish though...

14:23 <MTughan_> This machine is a P4 3.2GHz, 512MB RAM with XP SP2.

14:26 <TMatWork> 512? ouch

14:26 <MTughan_> It runs fast enough.

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14:43 <sethy> latest foobar is prety sweet

14:49 <mweltin> What happes to a task being worked on by a host, if the workunit is canceled on the server side?

14:50 <MTughan_> It'll keep working on it until next update.

14:51 <MTughan_> Anyway, school's 'bout done here... Got a school project to work on though, so I'll be staying later than usual.

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15:12 <desti> http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/celeron-e1200.html

15:12 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1PtN> (at www.xbitlabs.com)

15:18 <mweltin> yoyo[RKN], you there?

15:19 <yoyo[RKN]> jo

15:19 <mweltin> hi yoyo[RKN], what happens client side when I cancel a workunit?

15:20 <yoyo[RKN]> if it was not started on the client and the client connects to the server, the wu will be deleted on client side

15:20 <yoyo[RKN]> otherwise it will be started

15:21 <mweltin> what about already running tasks?

15:21 <desti> but works only with 5.10.*?

15:21 <mweltin> are they aborted, I implimented serverside aborts.

15:21 <yoyo[RKN]> think already running task continue

15:21 <desti> if i remember they will be finished and credited

15:22 <Romulus> or 31.9F for those in Rio Linda...

15:22 <mweltin> what happens to the results at the validator and assimilator level.

15:22 <yoyo[RKN]> I'm not sure. I think they will even get no credits

15:23 <yoyo[RKN]> the sample validator handles it automatic and assimilator ignores it

15:23 <yoyo[RKN]> and file deleter and db_purge removes it

15:24 <mweltin> ok the

15:25 <mweltin> validator gives the credit and unstarted ones will be aborted.

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16:09 <xcamel> afternoon...

16:09 <sethy> evening

16:09 <xcamel> well... pete is a screamer, and repete is retarded.

16:10 <xcamel> go figure...

16:11 <sethy> i wonder if in the pokemon world if you from a pokeball at the ground and say go figure a number '3' will come out

16:11 <sethy> s/form/frow

16:12 <xcamel> >> http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4151077

16:12 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1Pr8> (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)

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16:13 <sethy> This page requires database access. Our database server is temporarily shut down for maintenance. Please try again later. ??

16:17 <sethy> i wonder what the arecibo message would sound like if it was to be output as a sound

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16:32 <xcamel> sheesh..

16:33 <xcamel> try here >> http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=1092935

16:33 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1PuN> (at einstein.phys.uwm.edu)

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16:36 <sethy> i c u :D

16:36 <Erkki> Hi

16:36 <sethy> HI

16:36 <sethy> omg that was weird

16:36 <xcamel> 'lo Erkki

16:36 <Erkki> 8-)

16:37 <xcamel> everything is wierd to you, sethy

16:37 <Erkki> OK

16:37 <sethy> thank you :D

16:38 <sethy> ok on teh wikipedia it says 'transmitted at a frequency of 2380 MHz and modulated by shifting the frequency by 10 Hz,'

16:38 <sethy> does this mean the frequency was incremented or decremented?

16:38 <Erkki> I must allways put the Boinc go on my computer

16:39 <sethy> startup option is a go Erkki?

16:39 <Erkki> Ok

16:39 <Erkki> Bad language?

16:40 <Romulus> just had a contain or food that was missing with all features

16:40 <xcamel> usually +5 to -5 sethy..

16:40 <sethy> oic

16:40 <xcamel> the frequency is the centerpoint

16:40 <sethy> ahh so ranges from 2375 - 2385

16:41 <xcamel> pretty much

16:41 <sethy> 2375 being the 0volts signal and -85 being the 5volts

16:41 <xcamel> there is also sidebanding

16:44 <Erkki> It's late.Bye:)

16:44 <sethy> bye Erkki

16:44 <sethy> xcamel: sidebanding?

16:45 <Erkki> What?

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16:48 <xcamel> are you doing raido or audio?

16:48 <sethy> audio

16:48 <xcamel> forget sidebands then - that's like harmonics

16:48 <sethy> oic

16:49 <sethy> DTMF

16:49 <xcamel> there is a huge wiki on that..

16:50 <sethy> i know, i use to know the DTMF grid on the phone box, known by heart

16:54 <xcamel> my computer is getting too good at pool..

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16:56 <sethy> chess 3000?

16:57 <xcamel> billiards..

16:59 <sethy> i was recomending a new game...

17:00 <xcamel> not big on chess

17:00 <xcamel> (I suck at it)

17:00 <sethy> everyone does

17:00 <sethy> except those people who go to championships

17:00 <Romulus> Connection #1 to Crash.teamstarfire.net:6667 on IRCJunkie as Kinguni

17:01 <sethy> play gunbound world championships?

17:01 <sethy> its like worms

17:01 <sethy> just its free and play online

17:04 <xcamel> uh-huh

17:05 <sethy> or just go back to oldschool and blow the dust off of diablo2

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17:06 <xcamel> lol

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17:06 <Romulus> I know I'd come. Pov'd come too...

17:06 <xcamel> I could blow allot of dust of Duke Nukem...

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17:10 <CoderForLife> re-hi

17:10 <CoderForLife> home now

17:11 <mweltin> hey cfl

17:11 <xcamel> re--re-hi

17:11 <CoderForLife> hello American Samoa and the Empire State

17:11 <mweltin> can you do me a huge favor cfl.

17:12 <CoderForLife> a DNS favor?

17:12 <mweltin> yup

17:12 <CoderForLife> you mentioned something about 13 hours ago

17:12 <CoderForLife> what do you need?

17:12 <CoderForLife> nslookup?

17:12 <mweltin> I just need you to look at the record and see if you see major mistakes.

17:12 <xcamel> Don.. 'pete' is a screamer... repete is 'retarded;

17:12 <mweltin> no I'm using a free DNS servcie called xname.org

17:13 <CoderForLife> what's the nameserver?

17:13 <mweltin> and before I swith the name servers with my registrar I want someone to take a look at it.

17:14 <mweltin> I'll pastebin it.

17:14 <CoderForLife> otay

17:15 <CoderForLife> I didn't catch your meaning, xcamel

17:15 <mweltin> so here is what I want set up.  Apache needs to answer to bob.myisland.as so that has an A record, as well as www.myisland.as and myisland.as

17:15 <CoderForLife> just getting in from w@#%, brain hasn't engaged yet

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17:15 <mweltin> I'm going to use google apps to do mail so they are my MX records

17:16 <CoderForLife> what is the nameserver for xname.org?

17:16 <mweltin> and I want mail transparent so I made some CNAME records to my mail.myisland.as to mail.google.com

17:16 <CoderForLife> so I can look at the seetings

17:16 <CoderForLife> settings

17:16 <mweltin> its not active yet

17:16 <CoderForLife> doesn't matter

17:16 <CoderForLife> have you configured their server?

17:16 <mweltin> yes thats what I want you to checkout

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17:16 <mweltin> ns0.xname.org

17:17 <CoderForLife> that's what I needed to know

17:17 <CoderForLife> thx - looking

17:17 <CoderForLife> um - I can't find that server

17:17 <mweltin> http://pastebin.com/d3071c4af

17:17 <sethy> maybe i could substitute 2375Hz and 2385Hz for something else?

17:17 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)

17:18 <sethy> BOTH ARE DIVISIBLE BY 5

17:18 * sethy does calculationz

17:18 <mweltin> CoderForLife, try to pastebin url

17:18 * xcamel does poolz

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17:19 <xcamel> oh.. sorry...

17:19 <mweltin> hmm I dont' see my CNAME stuff

17:19 <xcamel> my new c2q xpc boxes - one works great, the other is 'retarded' (and being replaced)

17:19 <Romulus> I work with 0

17:22 <CoderForLife> is google.com an alias of googlemail.com?  I know gmail.com is...

17:22 <CoderForLife> you have google as your primary/first MXes

17:22 <mweltin> I was looking at their "how to configure thunderbird" and those where the server names the used for smtp, pop, and imap.

17:23 <mweltin> google will deal with all mail.

17:23 <mweltin> I'm trying the "google apps"

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17:24 <CoderForLife> > set type=CNAME

17:24 <CoderForLife> > myisland.as

17:24 <CoderForLife> Server:  ns0.xname.org

17:24 <CoderForLife> Address:  195.234.42.1

17:24 <CoderForLife> myisland.as

17:24 <CoderForLife>         primary name server = ns0.xname.org

17:24 <CoderForLife>         responsible mail addr = mweltin.gmail.com

17:24 <CoderForLife>         serial  = 2008011510

17:24 <CoderForLife>         refresh = 10800 (3 hours)

17:24 <CoderForLife>         retry   = 3600 (1 hour)

17:24 <CoderForLife>         expire  = 604800 (7 days)

17:24 <CoderForLife>         default TTL = 10800 (3 hours)

17:25 <mweltin> I'm not sure what you are telling me sorry.

17:26 <CoderForLife> you said you couldn't see CNAME stuff

17:26 <CoderForLife> ^^^^^^^^^^

17:26 <mweltin> yes

17:26 <mweltin> were you using nslookup?

17:26 <CoderForLife> yup

17:27 <mweltin> I only have CNAME's for mail, pop, and imap .myisland.as

17:27 <mweltin> and I can see them in the "modify zone" interface but nowhere else.

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17:27 <mweltin> so is it setup or not, because from what you showed me it doesn't look it.

17:28 <mweltin> but I'm not sure what I'm looking at either.

17:30 <CoderForLife> let me look at mine

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17:37 <linux_stu>   !!!!

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17:43 * FreeLarry58 sees xcamel got twins but only one of them had a brain

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17:50 <CoderForLife> bbl - maybe

17:54 <xcamel> Don.. did you figure out what I was talking about?

17:56 <FreeLarry58> mweltin this is what i get for nslookup

17:56 <FreeLarry58> Non-authoritative answer:

17:56 <FreeLarry58> Name:    bob.myisland.as

17:56 <FreeLarry58> Address:  202.70.115.106

17:57 <mweltin> dig @ns0.xname.org axfr myisland.as

17:57 <mweltin> but I don't see my CNAME enries

17:57 <FreeLarry58> hey jay - what wrong with repete?

17:58 <FreeLarry58> humm mweltin are they privatewhois records?

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17:58 <mweltin> not that I know of?  but didn't konw you coudl do that.

17:58 <Romulus> give cfl a ticket for disorderly irc'ing

17:58 <FreeLarry58> some of the services provide it

17:59 <xcamel> he's been grumpy today..

17:59 <FreeLarry58> ohh bad mb?

18:00 <xcamel> bad something.. not sure what yet..

18:00 <FreeLarry58> what symptoms?

18:00 <xcamel> the host listing on 'pete' looks goo though

18:00 <FreeLarry58> yeah saw those earlier - did you disable eist?

18:00 <xcamel> only powers on when you bress both power and reset...

18:00 <xcamel> that's a bad sign..

18:01 <xcamel> er press even

18:01 <FreeLarry58> yeah connections for front switches not hooked up to mb correctly or switches bad

18:01 <xcamel> no, not yet..

18:01 <FreeLarry58> i'ld check the wiring hookup first

18:02 <xcamel> but then it only gets half way through a format and stops..

18:02 <xcamel> brandon is going to replace it..

18:03 <FreeLarry58> yuck sounds like that one i bought from american computers for the wife many years ago - what didn't blowup on first power up did so within the year

18:03 <FreeLarry58> to many generic low end items were used

18:03 <xcamel> that's what I'm thinking..

18:04 <xcamel> I'm just going to send it back..

18:04 <FreeLarry58> cd reader was bad out of box - hd failed in the first month and the mb failed at just under a year

18:05 <FreeLarry58> ps only lasted a year and a half

18:07 <mweltin> FreeLarry, turns out my CNAME refrenced a host outside my domain so I needed the dot at the end of the domain name.

18:10 <FreeLarry58> mweltin this was for the mail

18:10 <FreeLarry58> Non-authoritative answer:

18:10 <FreeLarry58> Name:    myisland.as

18:10 <FreeLarry58> Address:  70.87.204.2

18:10 <FreeLarry58> Aliases:  mail.myisland.as

18:10 <FreeLarry58> so cname must be working as nslookup is thru my isp's

18:11 <mweltin> wow that was fast

18:11 <Romulus> yup another big processing center there

18:11 <FreeLarry58> it can take a day for names to propogate thru system

18:11 <mweltin> its still not showing up on my dig calls

18:11 <mweltin> yeah, but I'm looking on their server directly.

18:12 <FreeLarry58> i just did nslookup mail.myisland.as

18:12 <FreeLarry58> from command prompt

18:12 <mweltin> I'm trying it now

18:14 <FreeLarry58> well off to do daily chores

18:14 <mweltin> later

18:14 <mweltin> thanks

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18:25 <wdsmia> re-hi

18:27 <xcamel> 'lo Doug

18:28 <wdsmia> *lo Jay ...just back reading

18:29 <Tank_Master> crap

18:29 <Tank_Master> wdsmia is back

18:30 * Tank_Master hides the incriminating evidence

18:30 <wdsmia> Crap... Tank_Master is still here

18:30 <Tank_Master> :)

18:31 <xcamel> cut the crap.

18:31 <Tank_Master> you want us to cut you?

18:33 <wdsmia> The fickle matter is about to hit the rotary air impeller

18:34 <xcamel> Romulus, learn linux as http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_ubuntu_5.10.28_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh

18:34 <Romulus> xcamel: The operation succeeded.

18:35 <Tank_Master> did you see that eric Kprpela strongly disagrees with DA's new credit scheem?

18:35 <xcamel> Romulus, learn linux64 as http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_ubuntu_5.10.28_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu.sh

18:35 <Romulus> xcamel: The operation succeeded.

18:35 <xcamel> must have missed it..

18:35 <Tank_Master> Romulus, learn not to talk out of turn

18:35 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Invalid arguments for learn.

18:35 <Tank_Master> lol

18:36 <xcamel> Romulus, learn windows as http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_5.10.35_windows_intelx86.exe

18:36 <Romulus> xcamel: The operation succeeded.

18:36 <xcamel> TM - try not to be a pest..

18:36 <xcamel> Romulus, learn windows64 as http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_5.10.35_windows_x86_64.exe

18:36 <Romulus> xcamel: The operation succeeded.

18:36 <wdsmia> Tank_Master Its not a good idea to play with Jay when he has a broke computer

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18:37 <Tank_Master> and what fun would that be?

18:37 <Tank_Master> FFIne

18:37 <wdsmia> short lived fun

18:37 <Tank_Master> yrs it was

18:37 <xcamel> Romulus, learn OSX as http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_5.10.34_macOSX_universal.zip

18:37 <Romulus> xcamel: The operation succeeded.

18:37 <xcamel> &OSX

18:37 <Romulus> xcamel: "OSX" could be http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_5.10.34_macOSX_universal.zip

18:37 <xcamel> yea..

18:38 <Tank_Master> &win64

18:38 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Are you daft?

18:38 <Tank_Master> yes

18:38 <Tank_Master> &windows64

18:38 <Romulus> Tank_Master: "windows64" could be http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_5.10.35_windows_x86_64.exe

18:38 <xcamel> Romulus, learn win64 as http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_5.10.35_windows_x86_64.exe

18:38 <Romulus> xcamel: The operation succeeded.

18:38 <Tank_Master> cool, thx

18:38 <xcamel> both work now..

18:38 <Tank_Master> win32?

18:39 <Tank_Master> dont know which would be used more

18:39 <Tank_Master> win or win32

18:39 <xcamel> Romulus, learn win32 as http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_5.10.35_windows_intelx86.exe

18:39 <Romulus> xcamel: The operation succeeded.

18:39 <xcamel> what should vista be?

18:39 <Tank_Master> vista is different that win?

18:39 <xcamel> 32 or 64?

18:39 <BadBarbarian> both

18:39 <wdsmia> taken out of production

18:40 <Tank_Master> ?

18:40 <xcamel> taken out and burned is a good one...

18:40 <BadBarbarian> lol

18:40 <Tank_Master> vista64 probably

18:40 <xcamel> Romulus, learn vista as "take it out and burn it"

18:40 <Romulus> xcamel: The operation succeeded.

18:40 <xcamel> &vista

18:40 <Romulus> xcamel: "vista" could be take it out and burn it

18:40 <Tank_Master> but if the vista point to the same as win, dont bother

18:40 <BadBarbarian> taken

18:41 <BadBarbarian> taken out

18:41 <xcamel> Romulus, forget vista

18:41 <Romulus> xcamel: The operation succeeded.

18:41 <wdsmia> "vista" could be Windows me 2007

18:42 <xcamel> Romulus, learn vista as take it out and burn it - install linux right away

18:42 <Romulus> xcamel: The operation succeeded.

18:42 <xcamel> &vista

18:42 <Romulus> xcamel: "vista" could be take it out and burn it - install linux right away

18:42 <Tank_Master> but keep server 2008

18:42 <xcamel> whutevah

18:42 <xcamel> that should help the noobs

18:43 <Tank_Master> while it may be like vista, it doesnt have a lot of the additional fluff, and no drm

18:46 <Tank_Master> and server 2008 is 5% faster than XP

18:50 <wdsmia> getting closer to next boinc goal, rank < 1000 in all projects

18:50 <Tank_Master> nice

18:50 <Romulus> was hoping to see if you mail a priority letter from the 32bit host

18:50 <Tank_Master> not easy in some

18:50 <wdsmia> http://www.boincstats.com/signature/user_100947.gif

18:50 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/:8X> (at www.boincstats.com)

18:51 <wdsmia> should catch up on the last 3 within a week

18:51 <xcamel> &math convert 40 g to l

18:51 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: l is not a valid unit.

18:52 <xcamel> &math convert 40 gal to ltr

18:52 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: ltr is not a valid unit.

18:52 <xcamel> &math convert 40 gal to l

18:52 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: l is not a valid unit.

18:52 <xcamel> &units

18:52 <Romulus> xcamel: valid types: mass, length, time, scheduling, temperature, temp. diff., current, charge, potential, resistance, conductance, capacitance, magn. flux, inductance, flux density, molecular qty, size of a mol, lum. intens., luminous flux, illuminance, luminance, angle, solid angle, data, data transfer, quantity, interest rate, concentration, force, area, volume, velocity, rot. velocity, fluid flow, gas (1 more message)

18:52 <Tank_Master> &more xcamel

18:52 <Romulus> Tank_Master: flow, pressure, density, energy, power, frequency, radioactivity, radiation dose, dyn viscosity, kin viscosity, acceleration, constant, fuel consumpt.

18:52 <xcamel> oh stop...

18:53 <Tank_Master> lol

18:53 <xcamel> &units volume

18:53 <Romulus> xcamel: volume units: cc, cubic centimeter, liter, L, litre, deciliter, centiliter, milliliter, mL, dekaliter, hectoliter, kiloliter, kL, cubic meter, megaliter, gallon, gal, quart, qt, pint, pt, fluid ounce, fl oz, ounce fluid, cup, tablespoon, tbsp, teaspoon, tsp, barrel, bbl, shot, fifth, wine bottle, magnum, keg, bushel, peck, cord, board foot, board feet

18:53 <xcamel> &math convert 40 gal to liter

18:53 <Romulus> xcamel: 151.41647136

18:54 <wdsmia> &eightball will Tank_Master survive the night without being kicked by xcamel?

18:54 <Romulus> wdsmia: It shall be.

18:55 <xcamel> maybe I should start banging his cage with a steel pipe...

18:55 <wdsmia> Stormy?

18:55 <Tank_Master> &8ball will xcamel lighten up one of these days?

18:55 <Romulus> Tank_Master: The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!

18:56 <Tank_Master> ggreeaatt... our bot is ADD

18:56 <xcamel> Not tonight hun, I have a headache.

18:56 <Tank_Master> ahh, thats not good

18:57 <xcamel> TM.. you linux?

18:57 <Tank_Master> no

18:57 <xcamel> damn..

18:57 <xcamel> no problem.

18:57 <Tank_Master> sorry

19:02 <xcamel> needed to convert a 30 gallon pressure tank to litres for my maint person down in mexico.. the bladder might have gone bad in it..

19:04 <wdsmia> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080115/ap_on_fe_st/trailer_testicles;_ylt=AkWCONocZ977NlNf12h_jkbtiBIF

19:04 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1Pvs> (at news.yahoo.com)

19:05 <wdsmia> must be a election year

19:05 <Tank_Master> lol

19:05 <Tank_Master> howd you guess?

19:05 <xcamel> 'fraid to even look with that title..

19:06 <xcamel> that moron is too stupid to even realixe they're "bull balls"

19:07 <xcamel> not "human genitalia"

19:08 <Tank_Master> not to everyone

19:15 <xcamel> those people need to get a life..

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19:26 <xcamel> I need a few more people with *nix (bash/curl) to hit this web poll...

19:30 <MTughan> I think I hit it 5 times last night with your script...

19:30 <MTughan> Set up for another 3 runs.

19:32 <MTughan> Gah... Mac's still in service.

19:34 <wdsmia> roflmao  Cat was sitting on the fish tank... Oscar found its tail

19:36 <xcamel> snap!

19:36 <xcamel> <missing cat>

19:36 <wdsmia> Fish eats Cat lol

19:39 <wdsmia> going to have to rename the cat from La Gotta to Fish Food

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19:40 <xcamel> me-yubble

19:40 *** rootkiller is now known as bryanUC

19:43 <FreeLarry58> xcamel what does nix have to do and can a noob like me do it?

19:43 <FreeLarry58> have a couple of machines i use now

19:44 <bryanUC> xcamel: what web poll

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19:49 <xcamel> got linux?\

19:49 <xcamel> FL - you need to be able to run command line curl..

19:49 <xcamel> in a console window..

19:50 <bryanUC> well, somewhere I do

19:50 <bryanUC> not as a desktop os

19:50 <bryanUC> but on any of my many servers

19:50 <bryanUC> that and BSD

19:50 <MTughan> Check if the curl command works.

19:52 * FreeLarry58 gives blank stare

19:52 <MTughan> Ever used the console?

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19:53 <xcamel> here >> http://pastebin.com/d5914e479

19:53 <Romulus> Title: Bash pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)

19:53 <xcamel> it is all one line..

19:53 <MTughan> Ah, you added the -s.

19:53 <xcamel> indeed I did

19:53 <MTughan> Makes sense.

19:56 <xcamel> lol >> http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20080115/i/r3095575009.jpg?x=400&y=269&sig=Bg29_NyS0ZbdNm7bi9PsLQ--

19:56 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1PwO> (at d.yimg.com)

19:56 <xcamel> you will have to zoom in

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19:57 <MTughan> rofl

19:58 <MTughan> How 'bout this one? http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/01/15/funny-pictures-you-lied-to-me/

19:58 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1PwQ> (at icanhascheezburger.com)

19:58 <MTughan> Hmm...

19:58 <MTughan> &web title http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/01/15/funny-pictures-you-lied-to-me/

19:58 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1PwQ> (at icanhascheezburger.com)

19:58 <Romulus> MTughan: You lied to me. Lolcats n Funny Pictures - I Can Has Cheezburger?

19:59 <MTughan> Seems one plugin is taking precedence over another.

20:04 <bryanUC> xcamel: may I ask what that line does?

20:04 <bryanUC> (accesses the poll 10,000 times?)

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20:19 <xcamel> hammers 10,000 votes into a web poll that is being hammered by Ron Paul supporters... (who need to be cast off into space, really)

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20:27 <xcamel> damn there ate some funny cat pics

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20:55 <FreeLarry58> b k terminal open what first type curl then the line from paste-bin?

20:57 <MTughan> No, just copy and paste the line from pastebin.

20:57 <FreeLarry58> k will try

20:57 <xcamel> the whole line...

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21:00 <FreeLarry58> pasted it and hit enter don't know if it doing anything tho

21:01 <FreeLarry58> maybe it is see lots of network activity

21:03 <xcamel> should be a constant hit rate..

21:03 <Romulus> I'll try to attach to the slots dir.

21:04 <FreeLarry58> using 60% recieved and 20% set for network

21:05 <xcamel> check for progress here (vote for fred)

21:05 * FreeLarry58 would have been easier if was on xchat on that machne

21:05 <xcamel> http://www.wgy.com/pages/strawpoll/rep.html

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21:08 <xcamel> the paulians are brutal... we must half their 'cellar dwellers' working overtime

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21:12 <FreeLarry58> k xcamel you got two machines working it for you now

21:13 <xcamel> great..

21:14 <xcamel> remove the '-s' from after 'do curl' if you want to watch it work..

21:15 <FreeLarry58> ahh well you have a .64% increase on fred currently

21:16 <FreeLarry58> will it just go back to the prompt when finished?

21:20 <xcamel> yup

21:21 <xcamel> thanks, btw..

21:21 <FreeLarry58> yw

21:23 <xcamel> now it's going back up a bit..

21:23 <FreeLarry58> oh make that 3 nix machnes now

21:24 <FreeLarry58> almost 1 % since i first checked

21:27 <xcamel> like I said... the paulians are brutal - the skiddies must have 50 machines on it with a bad script.. (skidmore college)

21:27 <xcamel> I'm beating the crap out of it with 3 too...

21:28 <FreeLarry58> lol

21:28 <xcamel> my bandwidth is about buried

21:28 <FreeLarry58> i finally see where in sys monitor curl runs from

21:29 <FreeLarry58> doesn't seem to affect my bandwidth yet ;)

21:30 <MTughan> I could probably run about two iterations here too.

21:31 <MTughan> Done.

21:31 <FreeLarry58> got 3 machines doing it here one on each probable could open more terminals to do again as 2 and 4 processors on 2 of the machines

21:32 <FreeLarry58> and it isn't even using .3 for load avg

21:33 <FreeLarry58> but wifey may get upset if i knock out her dl of philippino show

21:33 <MTughan> Heh.

21:34 <FreeLarry58> she finally discovered streaming video on her machine and boy is she using it

21:34 <xcamel> oh boy...

21:34 <FreeLarry58> may have to get the next package up ie go from mid level to high speed

21:34 <xcamel> using vlc?

21:35 <FreeLarry58> nope she using ie7

21:35 <FreeLarry58> so windows media

21:35 <MTughan> Ouch.

21:36 <FreeLarry58> yeah she only watching so not to concerned and her machine pretty much by itself

21:39 <xcamel> big ouchies

21:40 <FreeLarry58> humm getting some fairly long breaks in the network now it seems

21:40 <FreeLarry58> it is about time for her shows ;)

21:41 <FreeLarry58> she found streaming video of one of her favorite tv shows from pi

21:42 <FreeLarry58> haven't asked to many questions about it either

21:44 <FreeLarry58> ahh one machine done

21:44 <Tank_Master> for?

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21:46 <FreeLarry58> for xcamel - trying it again only without the -s -- i see why you used it

21:46 <xcamel> it's just 'scroll work'

21:47 <FreeLarry58> yah

21:52 <xcamel> guess I'll have to doodle off and watch some history channel or something...

21:53 <xcamel> laterzz.

21:53 * xcamel is away: Gone away for now.

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22:54 <MTughan> Everyone's dead, the crickets are chirping loud and clear...

22:56 <Tank_Master> lol

23:17 <Alphinux> I am not dead

23:17 <Alphinux> Nor alive

23:17 <Alphinux> I just exist

23:18 <Alphinux> I have existed from the begining of time, and will exist always

23:20 * Tank_Master slaps Alphinux around a bit with a large trout

23:27 * Alphinux as Tank_Master tries to slap Alphinux he understands Alphinux can not be hurt nor killed. It is then when he falls to hes knees and asks the grand master for illumination

23:28 * Alphinux nods, and puts his hand on his shoulder: My brother illumination is in you. You must look carefully.

23:28 * Tank_Master makes note that no killing was attempted, and that it was Alphinux that was in fact mistaken

23:29 * Alphinux you are forgiven for your attempt, for it is forgiveness a path to illumination and understanding.

23:30 <Alphinux> aaa let's stop this or we'll never stop

23:30 * Tank_Master feels Alphinux needs to get off his high horse and to put the pipe down

23:32 <Alphinux> lol

23:35 <Tank_Master> :)

23:37 <Alphinux> At least there was some activity, It's like if every one was dead.

23:38 <Alphinux> And you know, my mind tends to to weird stuff

23:39 <Tank_Master> day sleepers

23:42 <Tank_Master> but it is usually more active than this

23:43 <MTughan> &quiet

23:43 <Romulus> Shhhhh... Day Sleepers

23:43 <Romulus> indeed I did ;)

23:47 * Tank_Master slaps Romulus around a bit with a large trout

23:48 <Tank_Master> you know something I love to do?

23:49 <Tank_Master> when RMAing a HDD, using a competitors box to ship the dive in

23:50 <MTughan> lol

23:50 <Tank_Master> huh, I can upgrade this 300 gb to a 500 for $99

23:51 <Tank_Master> why wouldnt I want this 300 back and buy a brand new 500 for $89?

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23:54 <MTughan> Heh, nice.

23:55 <Tank_Master> the 500 from then as an "upgrade" is a referm to

23:55 <Tank_Master> referb*

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