00:03 <MTughan> lol...
00:03 <MTughan> &xkcd
00:03 <MTughan> No CAD yet.
00:19 <efc2> The bits are frozen
00:22 <Romulus> Title: Ctrl+Alt+Del (at www.ctrlaltdel-online.com)
00:23 <MTughan> &cad It's up!
00:25 <MTughan> I'm off to bed...
00:37 <efc2> night
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01:32 <sethy> 'lo
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01:41 <sethy> omg irssi
01:42 <sethy> irssi on windows
01:42 <sethy> thank the lord for putty
01:42 <sethy> well, the guy who made putty
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03:53 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140
03:53 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 27.1°F / -2.7°C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 30.03in / 1016.8hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy with areas of drizzle. A scattered heavier rain shower is possible. Rain may change to snow before ending between midnight and 2 am. Lows in the lower 20s. West winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of rain 80 (1 more message)
03:54 <CoderForLife> &more
03:54 <Romulus> CoderForLife: percent.; Friday - Partly sunny. Highs in the lower 30s. Southwest winds around 10 mph.; Friday Night - Partly cloudy in the evening...then mostly cloudy with a slight chance of snow showers after midnight. Lows around 20. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 20 percent.;
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04:12 <CoderForLife> brb breakfast
04:19 <CoderForLife> b
04:20 <FreeLarry58> humm did tsp get transfered and if it did how to updated link - get cannot resolve host name error message for them
04:20 <FreeLarry58> morn CoderForLife
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04:21 <CoderForLife> hello Larry
04:22 <CoderForLife> how's everything on the Weaks Coast this morning?
04:22 <FreeLarry58> ohh going along - just got in from you know where - where you getting ready to go to
04:23 <FreeLarry58> 1/18/2008 1:03:37 AM|traveling salesman problem|Scheduler request failed: HTTP internal server error
04:23 <FreeLarry58> 1/18/2008 1:03:37 AM|traveling salesman problem|Deferring communication for 3 hr 41 min 57 sec
04:23 <FreeLarry58> 1/18/2008 1:03:37 AM|traveling salesman problem|Reason: scheduler request failed
04:23 <FreeLarry58> one machine gives cannot resolve host and another gives that
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04:24 <FreeLarry58> superlinkattechion has some wrapper problems i see also
04:26 <CoderForLife> from time to time we all must go and feed perdition's flames
04:26 <CoderForLife> and return home to play with hardware and boinc
04:27 <FreeLarry58> yess keep sane --- somewhat?
04:28 <FreeLarry58> i see i did get my account page at tsp to show - with many many lines of errors prior to it
04:28 <FreeLarry58> also when i clicked on home page link i got a listing of his directory - still some work to be done there
04:29 <CoderForLife> you at least need to come home to get out of the burnt clothes
04:29 <FreeLarry58> just diesel smoke smell
04:29 <CoderForLife> I'm sure that's great for the lungs
04:30 <FreeLarry58> very - getting more sensitive to heavy parfume some people take a bath in there
04:30 <FreeLarry58> have to get away from them or throat constricts
04:32 <CoderForLife> right
04:33 <FreeLarry58> it does due to increased phylum production - nose plugs up throat clogs and restricted airway
04:34 <FreeLarry58> normally have to move to other dock just to breath
04:34 <Romulus> So after this batch is finished, I'll have hit it 5 times last night but.. anybody know of on this for yoyo - suspended network and then works from there
04:42 <CoderForLife> I can understand that
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05:05 <E-30> ,moo
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05:06 <CoderForLife> moo E-30
05:06 <E-30> hey cfl how are you doing
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05:08 <clusty> hey
05:08 <clusty> anyone tried compiling the boinc manager under windows lately?
05:10 <E-30> no i havent
05:10 <CoderForLife> me either
05:10 <E-30> xp ar vista
05:10 <CoderForLife> &seen PovAddict
05:10 <Romulus> CoderForLife: PovAddict was last seen in #boinc 5 days, 6 hours, 47 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <PovAddict> I'm back the 23rd; I may or may not connect tomorrow
05:11 <E-30> oh i see
05:11 <E-30> lol
05:11 <CoderForLife> oic2
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05:13 <E-30> lol
05:14 <E-30> t2 ha weard
05:28 <clusty> povaddict is on vacatuion for a month
05:29 <clusty> wrote to the dev mailing list
05:29 <clusty> will whistle till i get a reply
05:29 <clusty> :D
05:42 <clusty> probably is the wrong place to ask, but are there other nice alternatives to the boinc framework? :D
05:42 <clusty> i imagine boinc is the best in all the world
05:42 <clusty> :D
05:51 <xcamel> :-)
06:02 <E-30> hey xcamel how are you doing
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06:13 <CoderForLife> many universities use Condor, clusty
06:13 <CoderForLife> hello xcamel
06:13 <clusty> cfl, thanks
06:13 <clusty> my main concern is reliability
06:13 <clusty> of boinc
06:14 <CoderForLife> off to w@#% - cya later
06:14 <clusty> bye bye
06:14 <CoderForLife> there are large Condor grids, with failover
06:15 <clusty> user has to be assumed a total dummy in my case
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06:15 <clusty> does boinc handle well cancelled tasks. and so forth
06:16 <clusty> ?
06:23 <fedorared> clusty: Given the redundency described at http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/JobReplication I'd say so
06:27 <hawmps> 'lo
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06:30 <mweltin> hey HEY
06:33 <clusty> hey markus
06:33 <mweltin> how goes teh project clusty?
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06:33 <mweltin> get teh static stuff down?
06:33 <clusty> bloody great
06:33 <clusty> you can do multifile apps
06:33 <clusty> now i have diff problem: Windows
06:33 <clusty> :D
06:33 <mweltin> assumeing you are an Auzy, or English I'll assume that is good.
06:33 <clusty> cant compile manager under windows
06:34 <mweltin> yes multiple apps are great.
06:34 <clusty> i am a man of the world
06:34 <clusty> :D
06:34 <mweltin> I have two and plans for a third.
06:34 <mweltin> what do you mean manager?
06:34 <mweltin> boinc client?
06:34 <clusty> boinc manager
06:34 <clusty> wx cute interface
06:35 <clusty> boinc_gui under linux
06:35 <mweltin> you should be able to get binaries for that.
06:35 <clusty> i need to modify interface
06:35 <mweltin> from the bonic site.
06:35 <mweltin> hahaahah, well you are on your own there. I'm not much of a graphics guy.
06:35 <mweltin> what are you using to build boinc with on windows?
06:35 <clusty> dummy code works just fine with clients shipped
06:36 <mweltin> MS visual studio works well
06:36 <clusty> but now my boss wants it to make it more dummy proof
06:36 <clusty> :D
06:36 <mweltin> LOL
06:36 <clusty> like crippleing all advanced features
06:36 <mweltin> doesnt' he know the world will make a better dummy?
06:36 <clusty> :D
06:36 <clusty> to make sure user can't suspend/abort/screw up workunits
06:37 <clusty> user can just ubninstall client if he is fed up
06:37 <mweltin> hmmmmmmmm well they still have access to the running process and the files it creates.
06:37 <mweltin> takes a savy user to get to them
06:37 <clusty> my point
06:38 <clusty> most people will just click random buttons
06:38 <mweltin> so if he is worried about idots its a mute point.
06:38 <mweltin> I'm one of those people.
06:38 <mweltin> thats why I suck at video games.
06:38 <clusty> mute point?
06:38 <clusty> lool
06:38 <clusty> :D
06:38 <clusty> i also suck at them
06:38 <clusty> what sort of computing do you do?
06:39 <mweltin> if there is a lever I pull it, a putton I push it, and it often leads to instant death.
06:39 <clusty> uuuuhhhhh, what does this button do
06:39 <clusty> buhhhhhkhhhhhhssssssssshhhhhhhhhh
06:39 <clusty> :D
06:39 <mweltin> I'll do anything, now that I'm on a small island I have done IT work.
06:39 <clusty> i saw
06:40 <mweltin> but I'm mostly c/c++ working on web/AI/and embeded systems.
06:40 <mweltin> all the web stuff is porting business processes to the web.
06:40 <clusty> how is ameruican samoa?
06:40 <clusty> island in the sun?
06:40 <clusty> :D
06:40 <mweltin> the diving can't be beat.
06:40 <mweltin> well it can but its darn nice.
06:40 <clusty> i also work on a small high tech company
06:41 <mweltin> I think you can run boinc as a service
06:41 <clusty> i just moved to germany for 1 year
06:41 <mweltin> people don't even have to know its running.
06:41 <clusty> its damn bleak here
06:41 <mweltin> I lived in Kolen for a year.
06:41 <clusty> bremen :D
06:41 <mweltin> it was nice
06:41 <clusty> famous even in germany :D
06:41 <clusty> for bad weather
06:42 <clusty> so you're american?
06:42 <mweltin> yes, thinking about moving to NZ next.
06:42 <clusty> thought same :D. uhhh never been in that corner of the world
06:43 <clusty> why do a phd or something in australia :D
06:43 <mweltin> I've been around the block
06:43 <clusty> why not*
06:43 <mweltin> indeed
06:43 <clusty> this is actually my first real job
06:43 <clusty> :D
06:44 <clusty> had tons of work form home/student jobs
06:44 <clusty> but no nine to fivers
06:44 <mweltin> I don't make much money but I like working for myself.
06:44 <mweltin> the hours are good.
06:45 <mweltin> My GF thinks I could make lots more money, and she may be right, but money is not everything.
06:45 <clusty> sure
06:45 <clusty> fact that you can go diving is priceless
06:45 <mweltin> You learn that quick diving with sea turtles and sharks.
06:45 <clusty> same as me living in montreal for 2 years was great
06:45 <clusty> never been skiing 5 months a year 2-3 days a week
06:45 <mweltin> Nice I was born in VT
06:46 <mweltin> used to go up to Montreal all the time.
06:46 <mweltin> love the botanical garden.
06:46 <clusty> you know what i am talking :D
06:46 <clusty> yeah
06:46 <clusty> had a yearly pass
06:46 <clusty> never been to VT cause i needed a visa :(
06:46 <mweltin> 7-12% beers
06:46 <clusty> been in california for a while
06:46 <clusty> lool
06:46 <mweltin> you didn't miss much.
06:47 <clusty> 7-12% beers starting from 18 legally
06:47 <clusty> 14 in practice
06:47 <clusty> :D
06:47 <mweltin> I worked for intel for a while and they would fly me to Santa Clara every other week.
06:47 <mweltin> never understood why.
06:47 <clusty> corporate spirit
06:47 <mweltin> I would just log in to my computer in OR.
06:47 <mweltin> I guess so.
06:47 <clusty> so this makes you like 35 or so?
06:48 <mweltin> the highlight of that was going to and In-out burger
06:48 <clusty> young enough to enhjoy diving
06:48 <clusty> loooool
06:48 <mweltin> 65 is young enough to enjoy diving
06:48 <clusty> i always thought the name was dirty :D
06:48 <clusty> in 'n out in clockwork orange means to rape some1
06:48 <clusty> :D
06:48 <mweltin> I heard about it watching "the big lebowski"
06:49 <mweltin> but they never show the place, I had no idea it was real.
06:49 <clusty> burgers are not bad
06:49 <clusty> but nothing beats tacos
06:49 <clusty> :D
06:49 <mweltin> and then some co-worker is like "lets go to in-out"
06:49 <mweltin> I about pooped myslef right there.
06:49 <clusty> i imagine
06:50 <clusty> so do you run boinc for the fun of it?
06:50 <clusty> or work related?
06:50 <Romulus> you know gmail will host your mail server is temporarily shut down Boinc and start it.... And monitor many functions at same time.......
06:50 <mweltin> fun
06:51 <mweltin> but it can be work at times.
06:51 <clusty> it started work and now is also fun :D
06:51 <mweltin> its a lot of fun
06:51 <mweltin> great people
06:51 <clusty> and screensavers aren't bad :D
06:52 <mweltin> yeah, I'd like to make one but I'm not much of a graphic artist and there are so many other things I'd like to do.
06:53 <clusty> closest i came to art is photography
06:53 <clusty> :D
06:53 <clusty> with heavy processing
06:54 <mweltin> Pov does a lot of image processing.
06:54 <clusty> cute
06:54 <mweltin> that I like, nothing like a good fourie transform.
06:55 <mweltin> or however you spell his name.
06:55 <clusty> for now boinc will do heavy neural nets traning
06:55 <clusty> fourier :D
06:55 <mweltin> my last big job was a neural network.
06:55 <clusty> i hate neural nets
06:56 <clusty> never liked statistical algos
06:56 <clusty> the neural code is done already
06:56 <mweltin> they are just another search algorithm
06:57 <Romulus> Title: TGN - Public Diagnostic Platform (at neurosurgery.ohsu.edu)
06:57 <clusty> :D
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06:58 <clusty> mweltin, you did it?
06:58 <Kathryn> Hi :)
06:59 <clusty> hey
06:59 <mweltin> yes
06:59 <mweltin> I didn't come up with the questions but I did the programing for it.
07:00 <mweltin> there is a whole admin section where you can use a GA to find optimal parameteres for the Neural Network.
07:00 <clusty> GA?
07:00 <mweltin> genetic algorithm
07:00 <clusty> ohh
07:00 <mweltin> took me over a year (working part time) to finish it.
07:00 <clusty> optinmal params like number of layers and such?
07:01 <mweltin> yes
07:01 <mweltin> layers, momentum, learning rate, number of PE per layer.
07:01 <mweltin> I think that was it.
07:02 <mweltin> its a standard feed forward NN
07:02 <mweltin> nothing fancy.
07:02 <clusty> concept is easy of NN
07:02 <clusty> practicallly i have idea to choose all those parameters
07:03 <clusty> #layers
07:03 <clusty> activation functions
07:03 <clusty> blahhh
07:03 <mweltin> oh yeah activation function was another parameter
07:04 <mweltin> but it was done on a layer basis not per node.
07:04 <clusty> what i did not like about NNs is that it seems a brute force approach
07:05 <clusty> whenever you are too lazy to do some proper modelling you get a one size-fits-all thing like NN's
07:05 <clusty> throw in all you know
07:05 <clusty> and keep fingers crossed that it will work
07:05 <mweltin> LOL
07:05 <mweltin> ypu
07:05 <mweltin> yup
07:05 <mweltin> and it only took you a few hours to figure me out.
07:06 <mweltin> take most people a lot longer.
07:06 <clusty> what can i say..
07:06 <clusty> i am sharp
07:06 <clusty> ...as a hammer
07:06 <clusty> :D
07:06 <mweltin> sweet
07:09 <mweltin> OK I'm going to bed.
07:09 <mweltin> 1am
07:09 <mweltin> later
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07:56 <wdsmia> &weather 50265
07:56 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 4°F / -16°C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 29.99in / 1015hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h ; Today - Cloudy. Isolated snow showers in the morning...then numerous snow showers late in the morning. Scattered snow showers in the afternoon. Areas of blowing snow in the late morning and afternoon. New snow accumulation around 1 inch. High 15 to 20. (2 more messages)
07:56 <wdsmia> &more
07:56 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature steady or slowly falling in the afternoon. West wind 5 to 10 mph increasing to northwest 15 to 20 mph in the afternoon. Chance of snow 70 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Very cold. Areas of blowing snow in the evening. Scattered flurries in the evening. Low zero to 5 below. Northwest wind 10 to 15 mph. Gusts up to 25 mph in the evening. Wind chill readings 10 to 15 below.; Saturday - (1 more message)
07:56 <wdsmia> &more
07:56 <Romulus> wdsmia: Sunny. Very cold. High 5 to 10 above. West wind 5 to 10 mph.; Blowing/Drifting Snow Advisory for Warren County in effect until 4:00 PM CST on January 18, 2008;
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08:33 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007
08:33 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 34.5°F / 1.4°C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 30.47in / 1031.7hPa | Conditions: Light Freezing Fog | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Cloudy with patchy fog in the morning. Mostly cloudy late. Highs around 40. Light wind becoming northeast 5 to 10 mph in the afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Patchy fog in the evening. A slight chance of rain and flurries (1 more message)
08:33 <Tank_Master> &more
08:33 <Romulus> Tank_Master: after midnight. Lows 30 to 35. West wind 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Rain likely and a slight chance of flurries in the morning...then showers likely in the afternoon. Highs around 40. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph.;
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09:08 <Sandtiger> &weather 47712
09:08 <Romulus> Sandtiger: Temperature: 22°F / -6°C | Humidity: 75% | Pressure: 30.23in / 1024hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs around 40. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows around 20. Southwest winds around 10 mph in the evening shifting to the northwest after midnight.; Saturday - Partly sunny. Highs in the upper 20s. Northwest (1 more message)
09:08 <Romulus> check out the window
09:09 * hawmps looks out, then goes back to w$#k..
09:09 <Sandtiger> that would mean i would have to get up from the computer
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09:21 <Acili> I wanted to use Seti@home - downloaded a boinc.sh file - installed it, ran the manager and set up an account. Then I dont know what I did, I closed it I guess.. but cannot open anything now.
09:21 <Acili> there is no menu, no icon... nothing
09:21 <Acili> the screensaver is not seti@home.
09:22 <Acili> im using fedora 8
09:23 <Kathryn> There's now a rpm for Fedora (works on my Fedora 7 box) if you're interested.
09:23 <Acili> yes I am
09:23 <Kathryn> GIve me a second to dig up the link.
09:24 <Romulus> Title: RPM Installation of BOINC client software (at pirates.spy-hill.net)
09:24 <Kathryn> Those are the instruction. There's a link to the download site on that page.
09:25 <Kathryn> Only thing it doesn't do is add a short cut to your "start" menu (K menu in my case)
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09:25 <Acili> thanks
09:26 <Kathryn> No problem. Let me know if you have issues.
09:30 <Acili> I am just downloading the newest: boinc_client-5.10.29-1.i386.rpm (date 05 jan 08) true?
09:31 <Kathryn> ummmm
09:31 <Kathryn> hold on
09:32 <Kathryn> No. That one has a glibc incompatability. I'm not sure why Eric left it on the download page.
09:32 <Kathryn> USe boinc_client-5.10.21-18.i386.rpm 29-Dec-2007 12:30 5.1M
09:32 <Kathryn> That
09:32 <Kathryn> That's the one I hvae running.
09:33 <Kathryn> Lots of comments in this thread
09:34 <Acili> yup, the first one didnt work - glibc incompatibility as you said :)
09:34 <Kathryn> Yeah. I was the first one to try that version out. I sent Eric a boatload of error messages and stuff for him to give me that one line explanation.
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09:37 <Acili> Kathryn: it installed - what now? :$ (stupid question maybe)
09:37 <Kathryn> not a stupid question.
09:37 <Kathryn> Open up a terminal
09:37 <Acili> yes - switch to root?
09:37 <Kathryn> nope.
09:37 <Kathryn> just type `boincmgr` and see if connects.
09:37 <Acili> ok
09:38 <Kathryn> at least I think the rpm will automatically start boinc....
09:38 <Kathryn> been a few weeks since I last installed one.
09:38 <Acili> im trying to connect with project now - choose seti@home
09:38 <Acili> its "communicating with project"
09:38 <Kathryn> yay!
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09:38 <Kathryn> you're good to go then
09:39 <Kathryn> (if seti's servers are actually up)
09:39 <Acili> project temporarily unavailable? :)
09:39 <Kathryn> lol
09:39 <Acili> can you confirm that? :)
09:39 <Kathryn> I was trying to read the Seti boards a few hours ago and they were slower than honey in Cleveland in the middle of winter :)
09:40 <Kathryn> try connecting to Einstein. If that works, then you can use it as a backup for when Seti's having issues.
09:42 <Acili> ok. connected to einstein, set up a new account. Got redirected to einstein.phys.uwm.edu/home.php... entered info etc.
09:42 <Acili> so its running now? :$
09:44 <Kathryn> Are you looking at the simple view (a rectangle with a picture in the middle-ish) or the advanced view (tabs at the top)
09:44 <Acili> the advanced view
09:44 <Kathryn> switch over to the tasks tab
09:44 <Kathryn> what does it say?
09:45 <Acili> there is a project: einstein@home
09:45 <Acili> I can show graphics, suspend, resume etc - (think it works)
09:45 <Kathryn> you should see the cpu time counting up.
09:45 <Kathryn> The graphics probably won't work.
09:45 <Kathryn> Unless you want a work around :)
09:46 <Acili> yeah the cpu time counts
09:46 <Kathryn> perfect.
09:46 <Kathryn> it's working then
09:46 <Acili> I have a graphic too - which Im now trying to shut down :)
09:47 <Kathryn> oh wow. Did Eric get the xhost working? Cool.
09:47 <Kathryn> Must be the beta build of the E@H science app I'm running.
09:47 <Kathryn> You should (in theory) be able to close it with the red x in the window.
09:48 <Kathryn> With the rpm, BOINC will start automatically on boot.
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09:48 <Acili> ou, couldnt see any red x - but guess'ed its location and it closed :)
09:48 <Kathryn> If you need to stop it, as root do /etc/init.d boinc stop
09:49 <Kathryn> and if you need to start it as root, /etc/init.d/boinc start
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09:49 <Kathryn> darn it. first one should be /etc/init.d/boinc stop
09:49 <Acili> ok - thanks
09:50 <Kathryn> Out of curiosity, how did you install the rpm? Just doubled clicked it?
09:50 <Acili> (now just waiting for the seti servers to be up and running)
09:50 <Kathryn> Or did you do it through the terminal?
09:50 <Kathryn> (you could be waiting a while)
09:50 <Acili> I used "the software installer"
09:50 <Kathryn> cool
09:50 <Acili> right clicked
09:50 <Acili> (ok)
09:50 <Kathryn> Glad that worked.
09:50 <Romulus> coudl you post the link to the client and server 2008
09:51 <Kathryn> Oh, one more question, Gnome or KDE or something else?
09:51 <Acili> im using gnome
09:52 <Kathryn> Cool. I'll let Eric know that too.
09:52 <Acili> you say that BOINC should start up when I reboot?
09:52 <Kathryn> Yuppers
09:52 <Acili> what if I close it now?
09:52 <Kathryn> The manager?
09:52 <Acili> yes
09:52 <Acili> how can I then start it up
09:52 <Kathryn> Nothing. BOINC will keep on going in the background.
09:52 <Acili> ow great
09:52 <Acili> nice thanks
09:52 <Kathryn> If you want to leave the manager open but get rid of that terminal window,
09:53 <Kathryn> start it as `boincmgr &`
09:53 <Acili> yes
09:53 <Kathryn> Then you can close the terminal window and the manager won't disappear.
09:53 <Kathryn> There should be a way to add the manager into your start menu. I have no idea what that would be as I use KDE.
09:53 <Acili> (I think I can do that :) )
09:54 <Kathryn> Awesome
09:54 <Acili> ls
09:54 <Acili> ups sorry :)
09:54 <Kathryn> wrong window?? ;)\
09:54 <Acili> yes :d
09:54 <Kathryn> nah. I've never done that..............
09:54 <Acili> hahah
09:55 <Kathryn> So the home directory for boinc is /var/lib/boinc
09:55 <Kathryn> Your logs are in there too.
09:56 <Kathryn> boinc.log for what's in the message tab and error.log for other stuff (mainly core client crashing)
09:56 <Kathryn> the rpm has a built in log rotation script.
09:56 <Kathryn> I wrote it, but I couldn't tell you the details because it's a revised version of the one I use.
09:57 <Acili> yes the home directory is what you said
09:57 <Acili> there is a log to
09:57 <Acili> im trying to attach a new project (seti) - but seems like we must wait (loong)
09:58 <Kathryn> lol
09:58 <Kathryn> I gave up on Seti ages ago.
09:58 <Kathryn> My pet projects (at the moment) are Einstein and PrimeGrid
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10:00 <Acili> I used to run seti for ages ago, stopped though.. I couldnt even find my account :(
10:00 <Acili> had to create a new one
10:00 <Acili> just wanna see - if anyone has found anything :)
10:01 <Kathryn> Heh... some tv station in Berkeley had some poor reporting the other day. They said something was found. Ummmm... no. Details somewhere on the Seti boards (if they're actually up).
10:01 <PriitM> ... uranium ore is being sold on amazon.
10:02 <Acili> (I have a little problem. When I'm in the /var/lib/boinc directory and try to boincmgr it says "authorization failed connecting to running client. Make sure you start this program in the same directory as the client)
10:02 <Acili> it seems boinc is not installed there anyway
10:02 <Kathryn> what's in /var/lib/boinc?
10:02 <Kathryn> let me try, hold on
10:02 <Kathryn> hmmm... works for me
10:03 <Kathryn> can you do a ls of /var/lib/boinc
10:03 <Acili> it works for me in /home/user/download/BOINC
10:03 <Kathryn> strange..........
10:03 <Acili> in /var/lib/boinc there is locale folder
10:04 <Kathryn> i wonder if not cleaning up the first install has created problems.....
10:04 <Kathryn> (blush... i'm still new at this)
10:04 <Acili> then these: boinc.log, ca-bundle.crt, client_state.xml, error.log, gui_rpc_auth.cfg, lockfile, time_stats_log
10:04 <Kathryn> let's start from scratch (very very very sorry)
10:05 <Kathryn> uninstall the rpm
10:05 <Kathryn> you should be able to drag the directory with your old install to the trash
10:05 <Acili> no dont be sorry - its me, I dont think I have uninstalled the previous installation
10:05 <Kathryn> then reinstall the rpm
10:05 <Acili> yeps, hold on
10:06 <Kathryn> k
10:07 <Acili> (oh my god Kohlschreiber won against RoddicK in AU open)
10:07 <sethy_> a little sethy is home from college
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10:10 <Acili> Kathryn: did every step, has now re-installed the rpm
10:10 <Kathryn> ok. you'll need to start the manager like you did before
10:10 <Acili> when I in console type boincmgr It give me the same message: "make sure you start this program in the same directory as the client".
10:11 <Kathryn> OK. I know what's screwing up.
10:11 <Kathryn> In /var/lib/boinc there's a file called gui_rpc_auth.cfg
10:11 <Acili> yes
10:11 <Kathryn> so do cat gui_rpc_auth.cfg
10:11 <Kathryn> that's kind of like the password.
10:12 <Kathryn> You can do two things.
10:12 <Kathryn> Well three
10:12 <Kathryn> 1. make the same file in whatever directory you're in when you open up th eterminal
10:12 <Kathryn> (~/kathryn for me)
10:12 <Acili> copy it?
10:13 <Kathryn> You can or you can just echo the contents to a file with that name
10:13 <Kathryn> 2. Make a symlink to that file
10:13 <Kathryn> 3. When you start the manager, go to the advanced menu and choose select computer
10:14 <Kathryn> put in localhost and the password
10:14 <Kathryn> I use #2
10:14 <Kathryn> #1 will work fine
10:14 <Kathryn> #3 is a pain
10:14 <Acili> ill use 2
10:14 <hawmps> btw.. welcome, Kathryn
10:14 <Acili> :)
10:14 <Kathryn> thanks
10:14 <hawmps> and Acili
10:15 <Acili> thanks
10:15 <Kathryn> I know pov hangs out here all the time and I figured I'd drop in too.
10:15 <Romulus> waves too..
10:15 <Kathryn> lol
10:16 <desti> \o/
10:16 <Kathryn> You might have to chmod /var/lib/boinc so it's "executable"
10:17 <Acili> Kathryn: is this correct? ln -s /etc/lib/boinc/gui_rpc_auth.cfg ~/ (blush)
10:18 <Kathryn> I think it should be /var/lib/boinc/gui_rpc_auth.cfg
10:18 <Kathryn> (and I'm such an idiot when it comes to symlinks... you should have seen the mess when I was trying to get java working with FF)
10:20 <hawmps> there's no place like 127.0.0.1
10:20 <Kathryn> lol
10:20 <Acili> yes! symlink succesfully created.
10:20 <Kathryn> woo hoo
10:20 <hawmps> click your ruby mouse keys 3 times..
10:20 <Acili> now boincmgr should work?
10:21 <Kathryn> in theory :)
10:21 <hawmps> what distro are you using?
10:21 <Acili> same output: Make sure you start this program in the same directory as the client
10:21 <Kathryn> *bangs head*
10:21 <Kathryn> can you start it from /var/lib/boinc?
10:21 <hawmps> because there is an easier way...
10:22 <hawmps> much easier, even...
10:22 <Kathryn> we're going through the rpm on Fedora
10:22 <Acili> oh no cannot start it in /var/lib/boinc either
10:22 <Kathryn> I wonder if boinc is even running
10:22 <Kathryn> as root /etc/init.d/boinc status
10:22 <hawmps> ok - rpm -e the fedora rpm...
10:23 <hawmps> download this:
10:23 <hawmps> &linux_graphics
10:23 <Romulus> hawmps: "linux_graphics" could be http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_ubuntu_5.10.28_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh
10:23 <hawmps> extract to it's own dir under /opt
10:23 <Acili> BOINC is stopped but lockfile(s) exist.
10:23 <Kathryn> do /etc/init.d/boinc stop
10:23 <Kathryn> then /etc/init.d/boinc start
10:23 <hawmps> run ./run_manager
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10:24 <hawmps> th ubuntu version works fine in fedora
10:24 <Acili> The boinc client requires initialization, Starting boinc client as daemon. ok
10:24 <Kathryn> now try starting the manager
10:25 <hawmps> the rpm packages really stink up things for boinc...
10:25 <Acili> "make sure you start... bla bla bla" :(
10:25 <Acili> << hangs his head in shame
10:25 <Kathryn> Well... I've reached the limits of my knowledge :(
10:25 <Kathryn> sorry
10:25 <Acili> should i uninstall it again maybe?
10:25 <Kathryn> maybe you're better off doing what hawmps is saying
10:26 <hawmps> Hello???
10:26 <Acili> ok. (hawmps I read you)
10:26 <Acili> hold on
10:26 <hawmps> follow my instructions above..
10:26 <Acili> yep
10:27 <hawmps> use rpm -e to erase all of the boinc rpm stuff - clean start-over
10:29 <Acili> hmmm weirdd!
10:29 <Acili> rpm -e boinc_client.rpm gives: error: package boinc_client-5.10.21-18.i386.rpm is not installed
10:29 <hawmps> the download is a simple .sh script that extracts the files into one dir called /BOINC
10:29 <Acili> but it IS installed!
10:29 <Acili> (let me remove it using the add/remove software
10:31 <hawmps> try rpm -rebuilddb
10:31 <Acili> boinc removed now
10:31 <hawmps> ok - you will need a console to do some of this..
10:32 <Acili> the sript has been downloaded
10:32 <Acili> it on my desktop
10:32 <hawmps> move it to /opt
10:32 <Acili> boinc_ubuntu_5.10.28_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh
10:33 <hawmps> and run sh boinc_ubuntu_5.10.28_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh
10:33 <Acili> moved
10:33 <hawmps> you will then have /opt/BOINC
10:33 <Acili> ls
10:33 <Acili> (sorry
10:33 <Acili> yes
10:33 <Acili> now cd BOINC
10:34 <hawmps> cd to /BOINC
10:34 <Acili> and sh run_manager
10:34 <hawmps> NO
10:34 <Acili> ./run_manager
10:34 <hawmps> click on your desktop and click "new link to application"
10:35 <Acili> ummm "create folder", "create launcher", "create document"?
10:36 <hawmps> create new link to application
10:36 <hawmps> ok - gnome?
10:36 <Acili> yes gnome
10:36 <Acili> I havent run the manager yet? - correct?
10:36 <hawmps> then it's create launcher
10:36 <hawmps> no - not run yet
10:37 <Acili> ok
10:37 <hawmps> (I use kde)
10:37 <Acili> ok launcher type is "application"
10:37 <hawmps> yes
10:37 <Acili> name should be BOINC?
10:37 <Acili> command should be: /opt/BOINC/boincmgr ?
10:37 <hawmps> no.. it should be /opt/BOINC/eun_manager
10:37 <hawmps> no.. it should be /opt/BOINC/run_manager
10:37 <hawmps> that is..
10:38 <hawmps> select the icon from the list in that dir also...
10:39 <Acili> got it
10:39 <hawmps> remember to click the 'app' as executable
10:39 <hawmps> and the working dir as /opt/BOINC
10:39 <hawmps> save all that and then double click the icon
10:40 <Acili> well there are 3 fields. Name, Command and Comment.
10:40 <hawmps> manager should fire right up
10:40 <Acili> I gave it the name BOINC. The command is /opt/BOINC/run-manager and no comment
10:41 <Acili> and I have selected the proper icon - I think we're good to go
10:41 <hawmps> oh.. command is where /opt/BOINC/run_manager goes
10:41 <Acili> yes
10:41 <hawmps> Name is the title under the icon on the desktop
10:42 <hawmps> if your permissions are all set, it should fire right up
10:43 <Acili> yes the manager started up
10:43 <Acili> but there is still a connection error
10:43 <hawmps> exact error message?
10:43 <Acili> "authorization failed connecting to running client. Make sure you start this program in the same directory as the client"
10:44 <Acili> then I just press the "ok" button
10:44 <Acili> the BOINC manager window is now still open
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10:44 <Acili> but in the lower right - its disconnected.
10:44 <hawmps> ok, use your text editor and open run_manager
10:44 <hawmps> close it.
10:45 <Acili> opened
10:45 <Acili> it reads this: cd "/opt/BOINC" && exec ./boincmgr $@
10:46 <BadBarbarian> mornin Hawmps
10:47 <quail> morning all
10:48 <Acili> hawmps: any idea?
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10:52 <Kathryn> Hiya zombie
10:53 <zombie67> hi kathryn!
10:53 <Kathryn> how's life treating you
10:53 <zombie67> i think this is the first time i have seen you here.
10:53 <zombie67> good.
10:53 <zombie67> you?
10:53 <Kathryn> I popped in once before. Got flamed by somebody
10:54 <Kathryn> I'm having a sort of rough night and I didn't want to be "alone".
10:54 <Kathryn> So where better to hang out than in #boinc?
10:54 <zombie67> good choice
10:54 <Romulus> you're good to go to w@#%
10:54 <zombie67> I have a con-call in a few minutes. so don't think i'm ignoring you.
10:55 <zombie67> you are in korea, right?
10:55 <Kathryn> yeah
10:56 <zombie67> superlink finally re-released an osx/intel app, and it doesn't work.
10:56 <Kathryn> I saw.
10:57 <zombie67> no response from the staff, which is odd
10:57 <Kathryn> Sabbath for them?
10:57 <zombie67> dunno
10:57 <zombie67> it is odd to release an app just before you go on leave...
10:57 <Kathryn> I thought that was sop for BOINC projects :)
11:06 <Acili> Kathryn: I know I have bother you a lot but just a question. When I do a .rpm installation of BOINC. Where does it get "installed"?
11:06 <Acili> 'bothered
11:07 <Kathryn> It should create a new user boinc with the home directory as /var/lib/boinc
11:07 <hawmps> did you get it running?
11:07 <Romulus> i wonder what it was...
11:07 <Acili> no hawmps. You didnt tell me what to do after opening the run_manager file :(
11:07 <hawmps> ah.. ok.. it's the permissions...
11:08 <hawmps> try opening a console and running ./run_manager from there, and note any errors
11:09 <hawmps> you're running as 'some user', right (not root)
11:09 <Acili> yes
11:09 <hawmps> the /opt/BOINC dir has exec permissions on for your user?
11:10 <Acili> yes I think
11:10 <Acili> since you didnt tell me what to do next - I removed everything :)
11:10 <Acili> hold on
11:10 <hawmps> double check that..
11:12 <hawmps> sorry.. with work, I'm in and out during the day..
11:14 <Acili> no, the /opt/BOINC directory does NOT have permissions for me.
11:14 <Acili> thats why!
11:14 <hawmps> seems you had manager running, but it didn't kick up boinc proper for you..
11:15 <Acili> eeehm how is it that I change user permissions for /opt/BOINC ?
11:15 <hawmps> BTW.. if you get it running this way, it makes future upgrades of the client much, much easier...
11:16 <hawmps> chmod +x /opt/BOINC
11:16 <Acili> im confused now :( I dont know whether I have user permissions to /opt/boinc or not
11:16 <Acili> when I run the manager it gives the same answer, both as root and as user
11:17 <hawmps> the attributes s/b rwx_rw_rw or something like that
11:17 <hawmps> is boinc itself set to executable?
11:18 <Acili> yes in the launcher when I double click the "allow executing file as program" box is checked
11:18 <Acili> sorry not "double click"... right click
11:19 <Acili> its ok hawmps
11:19 <Acili> ill look into it later :(
11:20 <Acili> by by all
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11:21 <hawmps> mt brain is not firmly attached today..
11:21 <Kathryn> mine is never firmly attached
11:22 <hawmps> welcome to the club..
11:22 <hawmps> where are you located, K?
11:22 <Kathryn> currently South Korea
11:23 <hawmps> military?
11:23 <Kathryn> english teacher :)
11:23 <hawmps> good for you..
11:23 <Kathryn> thanks
11:25 <hawmps> 1:25 am ???!!!???
11:25 <Kathryn> yeah
11:25 <Kathryn> I had sort of a bad day and I can't sleep
11:25 <hawmps> ouchies..
11:26 <Kathryn> something like that
11:26 <Kathryn> so i've been hanging out in here and #wordpress.com
11:26 <Kathryn> but it's been really quiet over there.
11:26 <hawmps> welcome to our little nutball channel
11:26 <Kathryn> I'm well aware of how nutty the folks are here.
11:27 <Kathryn> :)
11:27 <hawmps> ok
11:27 <Kathryn> Where are you?
11:27 <hawmps> upstate NY
11:28 <Kathryn> Not to far from my home. I hail from NE Ohio
11:28 <hawmps> good enough..
11:28 <hawmps> bbiab..
11:28 <Kathryn> k
11:29 <zombie67> lot more activity here in the evenings (US times)
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11:30 <Kathryn> I'm sure. I'm 12+ hours off from most of you guys.
11:37 <hawmps> you'd be on with quail down in Adelaide
11:38 <Romulus> I just not in the GUI
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11:40 <Romulus> winds up to boot the alter-sethy's
11:41 <Romulus> thinks.... or not
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12:03 <Kathryn> Bedtime. Night all.
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12:26 <Acili> maybe a stupid question, but can anyone tell me how to make sure boinc is uninstalled?
12:28 <desti> find / -name boinc*
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12:40 <Tank_Master> even if BOINC is uninstalled, it leave meny files behind
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12:41 <Acili> I think its completely uninstalled now
12:41 <Tank_Master> good
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12:42 <Acili> I need to change permission so I as user can access the /opt folder. How do I do that?
12:42 <Acili> what do I write in console?
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12:45 <desti> don't change the permissions of /opt
12:45 <desti> put it in a subdir if other permissions are required
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13:01 <Acili> why DO I keep getting this message when I run the BOINC manager :((( "Authorization failed connecting to running client. Make sure you start this program in the same directory as the client".
13:02 <Acili> what is the directory of the client?
13:02 <Acili> :(
13:07 <FauxFaux> Acili: Debian?
13:07 <hawmps> fedora, iirc
13:07 <Acili> FauxFaux: Fedora 8
13:08 <Acili> I have tried everything
13:08 <FauxFaux> Bah, I thought other distros might suck less. Try starting it from "/var/lib/boinc-client", or wheverever your distro puts files like "remote_hosts.cfg"
13:09 <hawmps> FC8 - data execution protection?
13:09 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007
13:09 <Tank_Master> &more
13:09 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.
13:09 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 37.5°F / 3.1°C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 30.48in / 1032.1hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Patchy fog in the morning. Highs around 40. Light wind becoming north 5 to 10 mph in the afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Patchy fog. Lows 30 to 35. Light wind.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy. A chance of rain and flurries (1 more message)
13:09 <Tank_Master> &more
13:09 <Romulus> Tank_Master: in the morning...then showers likely in the afternoon. No snow accumulation. Highs around 40. Southwest wind 10 mph.;
13:14 <Acili> no, starting from /var/lib gives also the same error messages
13:14 <Acili> no matter what I do its the same error message
13:14 <Acili> I can do everything as root - its the same
13:15 <Acili> I evet changed permission
13:15 <Acili> boinc sucks :)
13:16 <Acili> I do an rpm installation instead: but also there when I do "boincmgr" I get the same error message
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13:18 <Tank_Master> yoyoyo
13:19 <yoyo[RKN]> yo
13:19 <Tank_Master> hows it goin?
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13:24 <zombie67> hi yoyo
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14:02 <yoyo[RKN]> Tank_Master: ?
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14:26 <hawmps> I wonder if Ac had selinux installed and turned on...
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14:53 <MTughan_> 'lo Doug
14:53 <MTughan_> School's 'bout over though, so I g2g.
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14:54 <yoyo[RKN]> hi
14:55 <yoyo[RKN]> someone from Seti.USA here?
15:07 <wdsmia_> Brrr its cold out there
15:07 <efc> &weather 31088
15:07 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 52°F / 11°C | Humidity: 63% | Pressure: 30.15in / 1021hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: Variable | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h ; Rest of Today - Partly sunny. Highs in the mid 50s. Light and variable winds.; Tonight - A chance of rain in the evening...then rain after midnight. Lows in the upper 30s. North winds up to 10 mph. Chance of rain 80 percent.; Saturday - Rain and snow (1 more message)
15:08 <wdsmia_> &weather 50319
15:08 <Romulus> wdsmia_: Temperature: 9°F / -13°C | Humidity: 64% | Pressure: 30.23in / 1024hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 25mph / 41km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly cloudy. Very cold. Patchy blowing snow through the day. High around 15. Temperature steady or slowly falling through late afternoon. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 35 mph. Wind chill readings around 10 below.; (1 more message)
15:08 <wdsmia_> &more
15:08 <Romulus> wdsmia_: Tonight - Partly cloudy. Bitterly cold. Areas of blowing snow in the evening. Scattered flurries in the evening. Low 5 to 10 below. Northwest wind 10 to 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph. Wind chill readings around 15 below.; Saturday - Sunny. Very cold. High 5 to 10 above. West wind 5 to 10 mph.;
15:08 <efc> You win
15:09 <efc> " Bitterly cold. " in case you couldn't tell
15:09 <efc> &zip 50319
15:09 <Romulus> efc: Are you daft?
15:09 <wdsmia_> at 52F I think you win
15:09 <wdsmia_> &zipinfo 50319
15:09 <Romulus> wdsmia_: City: Des Moines; State: IA; County: Polk; Area Code: 515; Time Zone: CST; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 41.5929 (North); Longitude: 93.6001 (West)
15:10 <efc> &weather yakutsk
15:10 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: -35Â°F / -37Â°C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 30.54in / 1034hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 4mph / 7km/h | Updated: 4:00 AM YAKT; Overcast. High:-50 ° F. / -46 ° C.; Chance of Freezing Rain. Low:-56 ° F. / -49 ° C.; Chance of Freezing Rain. High:-38 ° F. / -39 ° C.; Overcast. Low:-49 ° F. / -45 ° C.; Chance of Freezing Rain. High:-38 ° F. / -39 ° C.; Overcast. (1 more message)
15:11 <efc> balmy
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15:23 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86023
15:23 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 34°F / 1°C | Humidity: 34% | Pressure: 30.20in / 1023hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly sunny. Highs around 30 on the North Rim to around 46 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 13 on the North Rim to around 23 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Saturday - Partly cloudy. Highs (1 more message)
15:23 <BadBarbarian> &more
15:23 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: around 37 on the North Rim to around 53 along the Colorado River. Light winds.;
15:24 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86046
15:24 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 37.0°F / 2.8°C | Humidity: 38% | Pressure: 23.62in / 799.8hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 2.7mph / 4.3km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly sunny. Highs 30 to 36. Light winds.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 9 to 15. Light winds.; Saturday - Not as cold. Mostly sunny in the morning then becoming partly cloudy. Highs around 40. Light winds.;
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16:00 <FreeLarry58> howdy mweltin
16:00 <FreeLarry58> and all
16:01 <Tank_Master> hiya fl
16:02 <mweltin> hey
16:02 <FreeLarry58> i see that tsp almost all up
16:03 <FreeLarry58> i still recieve a http internal error when trying to report upnit
16:03 <mweltin> almost
16:04 <mweltin> I have to rebuild the supporting apps like validators and assimilators
16:04 <mweltin> and some other libs
16:04 <FreeLarry58> ahh lots to do then
16:04 <mweltin> well shouldn't be too bad but I'm not sure honestly.
16:05 <FreeLarry58> at least im not seeing your directory listing when i go to home page ;) like last night
16:06 <mweltin> LOL
16:06 <mweltin> yeah that is a funny thing, on the boinc pages it says to remove Indices from the apache config
16:06 * CoderForLife stumbles and falls into the room, knocking over the lamp
16:06 <mweltin> but the httpd.conf stuff they add has Indexes in it.
16:07 <mweltin> not sure what that is all about.
16:07 <CoderForLife> oh, hi
16:07 <mweltin> I may write the list about it.
16:07 * FreeLarry58 catches lamp so CoderForLife wife wont use broken pieces on CoderForLife
16:07 <mweltin> cfl!
16:07 <CoderForLife> Thanks Larry!
16:07 * FreeLarry58 backs away
16:07 <mweltin> FreeLarry, who do you think put the lamp in his way? (wife?)
16:08 <CoderForLife> I meant LAMP, of course
16:08 <CoderForLife> Linux Apache MySQL PHP
16:08 <mweltin> nice combo
16:08 <FreeLarry58> ohh
16:08 <FreeLarry58> was thinking of the little helo that the navy calls LAMP
16:09 <CoderForLife> My nice, blonde-haired lady dentist says hi
16:09 * FreeLarry58 covers mouth and runs away
16:09 <mweltin> you guys are strange when you first get up.
16:10 <FreeLarry58> lol mweltin to many life experiences
16:10 <CoderForLife> get up? like get up out of the dentist chair?
16:11 <Tank_Master> kinda hard when she's on top
16:11 <mweltin> I remember getting my wisdom teeth out. I felt GREAT.
16:11 <Tank_Master> LOL
16:11 <mweltin> not sure what they used to knock me out with , but I remember asking the nurse, "lets do that again".
16:11 * Tank_Master makes note that mweltin no longer has any wisdom
16:11 <mweltin> LOL
16:12 <mweltin> crap
16:12 <Tank_Master> :D
16:12 <mweltin> my slackware cd's md5sums don't match the website I downloaded them from.
16:12 <Tank_Master> uh oh
16:12 <mweltin> doesn't matter if you run md5 from windows or linux does it?
16:12 <CoderForLife> bad news
16:13 <Tank_Master> no
16:13 <mweltin> I hope it does but that would make it pointless
16:13 <CoderForLife> md5 wouldn't be much of a hash if it got different answers per platform
16:13 <mweltin> yeah
16:13 <mweltin> a man can dream
16:13 <Tank_Master> the hole point og checksum is just to insure the binaries are the same
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16:14 <mweltin> yes yes I have that much wisdom, can't a guy make a joke?
16:14 * CoderForLife checks out mweltin with the WisdoMeter
16:14 * CoderForLife bangs on the side of the device
16:15 <mweltin> damm it Jim I'm a Doctor
16:15 <CoderForLife> what do negative readings mean?
16:15 <CoderForLife> oops
16:15 <Tank_Master> so, you want to do some surgery on a torpedo?
16:15 * CoderForLife turns the meter around
16:15 <mweltin> que
16:16 <Tank_Master> you dont rememebr that?
16:16 <CoderForLife> you check out OK, you're not a Cylon at all - look... all very bright green
16:16 <mweltin> I usually pay 9.95 a min for that kind of talk.
16:16 <Tank_Master> WTF?
16:17 <Tank_Master> 9.95 for startrek talk?
16:17 <CoderForLife> World Traffic Federation?
16:17 <Romulus> I fit 100k @ superlink
16:17 <CoderForLife> Um... Battlestar Galactica talk
16:17 <Tank_Master> thats great rommie, now stfu
16:17 <mweltin> thats only 5.95 a min
16:17 <mweltin> Battelstar never took off.
16:17 <Tank_Master> theres no doctor named jim on BSG
16:18 <Tank_Master> if it never took off, why is it still running?
16:18 <CoderForLife> the new series is very popular
16:18 <Tank_Master> great effects
16:18 <mweltin> I guess the new one did
16:18 <mweltin> I never saw it.
16:18 <CoderForLife> last season starts in March
16:18 <Tank_Master> cant wait
16:18 <mweltin> I have been on the no TV thing for a while
16:18 <CoderForLife> you have not lived then, mweltin
16:18 <Tank_Master> hehe
16:19 <CoderForLife> download it or get the DVDs
16:19 <CoderForLife> pretty frakin' awesome
16:19 <mweltin> hahah
16:19 <mweltin> you can rent them from the local vid store
16:20 <mweltin> I may do that now that the GF is off island.
16:20 <Tank_Master> I downloaded the entier origonal series
16:21 <mweltin> how nice for you
16:21 <CoderForLife> what's the linux command to inspect incoming TCP requests?
16:21 <mweltin> we all know my dl ability
16:21 <mweltin> I can't even watch youtube
16:21 <Tank_Master> lol
16:21 <Tank_Master> man
16:21 <CoderForLife> Someone from China is ttrying to hack my box
16:21 <mweltin> cfl I don't know but I would like to
16:21 <CoderForLife> I need to resolve a real IP address
16:21 <Tank_Master> I know an easy fix to prevent a hack
16:22 <Tank_Master> unplug it
16:22 <mweltin> hahaha
16:22 <mweltin> the only safe computer is one that is off
16:22 <Tank_Master> and in a lava pit
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16:23 <CoderForLife> you around, xcamel?
16:24 <mweltin> seriously, cfl let me know what you find out.
16:24 <CoderForLife> I forget
16:25 * CoderForLife rattles his brain
16:26 * Tank_Master hears rocks rolling around
16:33 <CoderForLife> well the answer to my question was: /usr/sbin/tcpdump -vv | grep ftp
16:34 <CoderForLife> with the attacks from China, the address shown in the log of undefined.bjgwbn.net.cn can't be found in DNS, yet my server is responding to it
16:35 <mweltin> mmmmmmmmmmm whats with the ftp
16:35 <mweltin> is that the port he is working on?
16:35 <CoderForLife> his port is 48709
16:36 <CoderForLife> mine of course is FTP
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16:39 <mweltin> so what kind of attack is it
16:39 <CoderForLife> there's something going on here that I don't understand
16:40 <mweltin> is he just knocking at your door looking for a way in?
16:40 <CoderForLife> the usual kind - attempting to log into FTP using a user ID and password - most typically "Administrator" (assuming I'm a Windows box)
16:41 <CoderForLife> other times they run through a gamut of likely user names and trying passwords
16:41 <CoderForLife> I dropped the FTP service for a little while here
16:41 <CoderForLife> again, I should be able to resolve an IP address that I can put into iptables to block them
16:43 * CoderForLife sighs
16:43 <mweltin> how does IP spoofing work. I heard it was easy, and if that is what he is doing won't blocking him in iptables be worthless?
16:43 <CoderForLife> a mystery left yet again for another day
16:43 <mweltin> I'm very interested in this as I'm tyring to work on my admin skills.
16:44 <CoderForLife> I am in the process of moving my websites and stuff over to my backup server so I can take my main one offline for some RAID maintenance
16:45 <CoderForLife> I should be able to get things moved here in a couple more hours work (hopefully)
16:45 <CoderForLife> then I can pop the hood on my big box and switch things around, then install F8
16:45 <CoderForLife> and then move everything back
16:45 <CoderForLife> and then get back to Coding
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17:15 <Soul_keeper> hmmmm, so how many 2gram tea bags would one need to prepair a 55 gallon drum ?
17:16 <MTughan> rofl
17:16 <xcamel> a fortnight of them
17:17 <MTughan> &math calc [math convert 55 tons to grams] / 2
17:17 <Romulus> MTughan: 24947580.35
17:17 <MTughan> rofl
17:17 <xcamel> or 3 furlongs
17:17 <MTughan> 25 million.
17:17 <Soul_keeper> i've been drinking tea constantly, like a cup every half hour all day ...
17:17 <Soul_keeper> cept when i'm at work, then i drink nothing
17:17 <MTughan> Crap, I did 55 tons...
17:17 <MTughan> &math calc [math convert 55 gallons to grams] / 2
17:17 <Romulus> MTughan: Error: unit categories did not match
17:18 <MTughan> How much tea does one bag make?
17:18 <Soul_keeper> maybe 2 cups at the most
17:18 <MTughan> &math calc [math convert 55 gallons to cups] / 2
17:18 <Romulus> MTughan: 440
17:18 <MTughan> There you go.
17:18 <Soul_keeper> :)
17:19 <MTughan> Seems much better than 25 million. xD
17:19 <Soul_keeper> so 1 dollar gets me about 20 bags at the 99 cent store ...
17:19 <MTughan> &math calc 440 / 20
17:19 <Romulus> MTughan: 22
17:19 <MTughan> $22.
17:19 <Soul_keeper> sweet
17:20 <Soul_keeper> try buying a 55 gallon drum of pepsi for that price ...
17:20 <MTughan> Planning on drinking 55 gallons of tea? xD
17:20 <MTughan> That's also a lot of water though.
17:20 <MTughan> And that's not free.
17:20 <xcamel> so it's not 3 furlongs?
17:20 <MTughan> &math convert 3 furlongs to gallons
17:20 <Romulus> MTughan: Error: unit categories did not match
17:21 <Soul_keeper> well let's see, you're supposed to drink what half a gallon of water a day or something ?
17:21 <MTughan> There's your answer.
17:21 <xcamel> /sarc
17:21 <MTughan> Half a gallon a day? I smash that...
17:21 <MTughan> Oh, maybe not...
17:21 <MTughan> About 2 litres...
17:21 <MTughan> That's probably about right actually.
17:21 <Soul_keeper> probably over 1 gallon easily i'd think, if that's all you were drinking
17:22 <Soul_keeper> so a 55 gallon drum would be like a month's supply maybe ...
17:22 <MTughan> Even at a gallon a day, that's two months.
17:22 <MTughan> Half a gallon a day, 4 months.
17:23 <Soul_keeper> well i only got about 100 tea bags anyways ... i drank the other 100 already
17:23 <MTughan> lol
17:24 <Soul_keeper> i should start taking it to work in a thermal
17:24 <Soul_keeper> like a half gallon sized one
17:24 <Soul_keeper> i could drink my tea and smoke my pipe tobacco like no american
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17:36 <Romulus> MTughan: The operation succeeded.
17:36 <MTughan> :D
17:37 <MTughan> It's rather useless, but just really cool...
17:39 <Soul_keeper> heh
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17:44 <xcamel> 'lo Glenn
17:44 <Rookie_69> Hi, Jay.
17:47 <Rookie_69> &weather yhz
17:47 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 39Â°F / 4Â°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.53in / 1000hPa | Conditions: Rain | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 38mph / 61km/h | Updated: 6:00 PM AST; Tonight - Rain ending this evening then clearing. Amount 10 mm(0.4 in). Fog patches dissipating this evening. Wind southeast 60 km/h (37 mph) gusting to 100 km/h (62 mph) becoming southwest 40 km/h (25 mph) gusting to 60 km/h (37 mph) (1 more message)
17:47 <xcamel> still trying to hammer those 'ron paulians' back into the stone age...
17:47 <Rookie_69> &more
17:47 <Romulus> Rookie_69: this evening then west 20 km/h (12 mph) overnight. Low -4C(24F).; Saturday - A mix of sun and cloud. 40 percent chance of flurries in the afternoon. Wind west 20 km/h (12 mph). High 0C(32F). Saturday night flurries. Amount 2 cm(0.8 in). Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light near midnight. Low -4C(24F).; Sunday - Flurries. Windy. High -3C(26F).;
17:48 <xcamel> sounds like a nice day but for the fog..
17:48 <Rookie_69> Rain is hammering on the door, but I won't open it.
17:49 <Rookie_69> Nasty little cold bugs crawled up my nose and had babies :-(
17:50 <xcamel> that stinks..
17:50 <wdsmia> re-hi
17:50 <xcamel> 'lo Doug
17:50 <Rookie_69> *lo, Doug.
17:50 <wdsmia> *lo Jay, Glenn
17:51 <wdsmia> &weather 50319
17:51 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 7°F / -14°C | Humidity: 64% | Pressure: 30.30in / 1026hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Bitterly cold. Low 5 to 10 below. Northwest wind 10 to 15 mph. Wind chill readings around 15 below.; Saturday - Sunny. Bitterly cold. High zero to 5 above. West wind 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday Night - Partly cloudy until early (1 more message)
17:51 <wdsmia> &more
17:51 <Romulus> wdsmia: morning then becoming mostly cloudy. Very cold. Low 5 to 10 below. West wind around 5 mph.; Wind Chill Advisory for Polk County in effect until 11:00 AM CST on January 19, 2008;
17:51 <xcamel> I accidentally hit the fanis on kahuna with canned air and got 2 lungs full of bird dander last night
17:52 <Rookie_69> Lol. Oops.
17:52 <wdsmia> lol been there done that
17:52 <xcamel> still paying for that one after the 2 hour histamine attack
17:52 <xcamel> ie: drowning in pheghm
17:52 <Rookie_69> Even better...
17:53 <xcamel> I feel like I got hit by a truck, and backed over by a bus
17:53 <xcamel> it was a really stupid move
17:54 <Rookie_69> Sorry, but I can't really emphathise with allergies.
17:55 <Rookie_69> ... but you have my sympathy.
17:55 <xcamel> poison is all in the doseage
17:55 <xcamel> TG for benadryl
17:58 <xcamel> that knocked it out enough to breathe again
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18:02 <xcamel> 'lo Tank
18:02 <Tank_Master> hey
18:03 <Tank_Master> you know, I can never spell RS correctly
18:03 <xcamel> who is in CA?
18:03 <Tank_Master> Zombie
18:03 <xcamel> >> PLane- Helicopter Crash in Fresno (just a headline)
18:04 <Tank_Master> where is that from the bay area?
18:04 <Rookie_69> Depends on which CA you mean...
18:04 <Rookie_69> Not ne.
18:04 <xcamel> kalifornicatia
18:05 <Rookie_69> ... as opposed to Kanuckistan...
18:05 <Tank_Master> anywho, testing time
18:05 <Tank_Master> ill bbl
18:05 <Tank_Master> (I have a new vid card)
18:05 <Romulus> cant compile manager under windows lately?
18:07 <MTughan> xcamel: Why does the title say avoid v6? It hasn't been released, has it?
18:07 <MTughan> It's not on the main download page.
18:08 <MTughan> 5.10.38 for Win/Win64/OS X and 5.10.28 for Linux.
18:08 <xcamel> some people try to run alpha/beta versions
18:09 <MTughan> They've released alpha/beta binaries of v6?
18:09 <MTughan> Actually, if it's quite unstable, it'd be an alpha ver...
18:11 <xcamel> that doesn't stop people from trying, mike
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18:12 <Romulus> Title: Index of /dl (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
18:17 <CoderForLife> off 4 2 nite
18:17 <Rookie_69> Hi/bye, Don.
18:17 <xcamel> didn't see that you were on... sorry..
18:17 <xcamel> have a nice nite..
18:18 <wdsmia> Hmm Google maps still havent updated the picture of my house
18:19 <Rookie_69> You mean it's not a blurry square?
18:19 <xcamel> live.maps.com birsdeye view misses my house by 400'
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18:29 <xcamel> not sure how fast they're updating the aerial photos
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18:32 <Rookie_69> Probablt within 4 or 5 years...
18:32 <Rookie_69> y
18:33 <wdsmia> looks like the pic of my house was early spring prob 2006
18:34 <BadBarbarian> howdy all
18:35 <Kathryn_> Morning everyone
18:35 <wdsmia> *lo BB
18:35 <xcamel> mornin K
18:35 <xcamel> get any sleep at all?
18:35 <Kathryn_> me?
18:35 <Kathryn_> very little
18:35 <BadBarbarian> for a linux noob what distro is easyest to make a dual boot system with
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18:36 <xcamel> hawmps=xcamel (at home)
18:36 <BadBarbarian> hoedy jay
18:36 <BadBarbarian> howdy
18:36 <xcamel> 'lo BB
18:36 <Kathryn_> I'm still pretty noobish, and I like Fedora
18:37 <xcamel> np with that one..
18:37 <BadBarbarian> pogo is a young man wanting to learn about linux
18:37 <Pogogunner> I already know some stuff, Bad, don't make me sound like a drooling eight year old
18:37 <BadBarbarian> lol
18:38 <xcamel> a stuffy 9 year old then?
18:38 <Pogogunner> Bad wants me to ask about the automatic dual-boot partitions
18:38 <Pogogunner> An arrogant 16 year old :\
18:38 <Kathryn_> ah yes, but I belive a drooling 8 year old could use Fedora just fine. Heck, I can and I'm lower than a drooling 8 year old
18:38 * xcamel needs to go get milk and coffee..
18:38 <Pogogunner> -coffee + cookies
18:38 <Rookie_69> Llama milk?
18:39 <Pogogunner> A cat is fine too
18:39 <xcamel> not hardly
18:39 <Rookie_69> Cat's milk???
18:39 <xcamel> bbiab..
18:39 <BadBarbarian> but stay away from the dog milk
18:39 <Pogogunner> www.encyclopediadramatica.com/ index.php/A_cat_is_fine_too
18:41 <Rookie_69> Coffee is a breakfast food.
18:42 <Pogogunner> Rookie must be a coder
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18:43 <Rookie_69> Me? I can barely type with two fingers.
18:45 <Rookie_69> I used to know a little bit of Basic 25 years ago...
18:49 <Pogogunner> 25?
18:50 <Pogogunner> I can't even comprehend that much time
18:50 <MTughan> I'm a programmer, and I don't drink coffee.
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18:50 <MTughan> 'lo TM
18:50 <Pogogunner> Mt, Coffee is safer than Crack
18:50 <Pogogunner> Hey Tank
18:50 <wdsmia> Pogo most of us have socks older than you are :P
18:50 <Pogogunner> Get on ircqnet
18:50 <MTughan> It's still got caffeine, and I don't need it.
18:51 <Rookie_69> 45 last month, and feel like 80 or so :-(
18:52 <Pogogunner> Wow, you're older than my dad
18:52 <wdsmia> rofl
18:53 <Rookie_69> Gee... Thanks.
18:53 <Rookie_69> Doug... you're a few months older than me?..
18:54 <wdsmia> a few
18:54 <Pogogunner> Sorry, I just see my dad as an imposing figure
18:54 <Pogogunner> :\
18:55 <Rookie_69> That's his job.
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18:55 * wdsmia is 21... for the 24th time
18:55 <Kathryn_> lol
18:55 <Kathryn_> i'm 29 and refuse to age any futher
18:55 <Pogogunner> I've been at his job, it's more fun than school
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18:56 <Pogogunner> Eight hours work > Eight hours school
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18:56 <Rookie_69> School sux... until you experience the real world.
18:57 <Pogogunner> I dunno, I thought making bandages for eight hours straight was allright
18:57 <Kathryn_> Or you become a teacher and deal with school for the next x years :)
18:57 <Pogogunner> Bah, I know I could replace our schools network tech
18:57 <Pogogunner> He has no certs
18:58 <Pogogunner> But I admire that he works on 800 computers alone and doesn't openly complain
18:58 <Kathryn_> We don't have one. and it show. *thinks about all the horrilbe crap I cleaned off my thumb drive*
18:58 <Pogogunner> Why didn't you make your thumb drive read only?
18:58 <Kathryn_> I only use it at the school.
18:58 <Rookie_69> My school had one computer, and I think it still used punch cards...
18:59 <Pogogunner> What's a punch card?
18:59 <Kathryn_> I take a Live CD and email files to myself if I need them at home.
18:59 <Pogogunner> If you use a live CD at our school you get suspended for a minimum of ten days
18:59 <Kathryn_> ouch
18:59 <Rookie_69> A pisce of cardboard that the programmer punches holes in.
19:00 <Kathryn_> There are advantages to being a teacher :)
19:00 <Rookie_69> Where's Jan? She knows.
19:00 <Rookie_69> Stupid fingers...
19:00 <MTughan> You get suspended for using a Live CD? That sucks...
19:00 <Pogogunner> It applies to the teachers too
19:00 <Pogogunner> Only one has the know how to burn a OS, anyway
19:01 <Pogogunner> Thats nothing, MT
19:01 <MTughan> What would you use the CD for?
19:01 <Pogogunner> Two kids got caught having sex in a bathroom one day
19:01 <Pogogunner> They got a one day in school suspension
19:01 <Rookie_69> ... on a CD?
19:01 <MTughan> lol
19:01 <Pogogunner> I'm not kidding
19:01 <Kathryn_> O.o
19:02 <MTughan> I'm not "lol"ing the sex part. I'm "lol"ing the sex on a CD from Rookie.
19:02 <Pogogunner> My CCNA class teacher (At a vo-tech school that they bus us out for) didn't even know what Linux was at the beginning of the school year
19:02 <Kathryn_> oh my
19:02 <MTughan> Heh, and I'm running Linux.
19:03 <Kathryn_> me too
19:03 <Pogogunner> On the positive side, I'm doing better in school this year
19:03 <xcamel> back again
19:03 <Pogogunner> Hey Camel
19:03 <MTughan> 'lo Jay
19:03 <Rookie_69> Caffiene fix?
19:03 <xcamel> indeed
19:05 <Pogogunner> Whats the best point project for 32 bit XP?
19:05 <Pogogunner> I heard QMC
19:05 <Rookie_69> He says he's going for coffee, but sometimes I think he's only going outside to pet Kaz.
19:06 <xcamel> umm.. remember... no more kaz
19:06 <Rookie_69> No...
19:06 <xcamel> last july
19:06 <Rookie_69> Did I miss something sad?
19:06 <xcamel> indeed
19:06 <MTughan> Who was Kaz?
19:06 <Rookie_69> Sorry.
19:06 <Tank_Master> always
19:07 <Pogogunner> Whats going on?
19:07 <MTughan> What's going on? Time.
19:07 <xcamel> my camel
19:07 <MTughan> Ah...
19:07 <Romulus> i got a "D" in that dir
19:07 <Pogogunner> ...You can own a Camel?
19:07 <Pogogunner> What country do you live in?
19:07 <MTughan> Guess that's where "xcamel" came from.
19:08 <Tank_Master> canada
19:08 <Pogogunner> In Canada, milk comes in bags
19:08 <MTughan> No, where does Jay live?
19:08 <MTughan> Nice...
19:08 <Pogogunner> Jesus christ, it's a lion, get in the car!
19:08 <Rookie_69> I better keep that pic of kaz and the missus cuddling safe...
19:09 <Rookie_69> ... your missus...
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19:09 <xcamel> chased by a wolf in the middle of the night and slipped, fell, landed upsidedown in a drainage ditch and broke his neck
19:09 <Rookie_69> I never knew.
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19:09 <xcamel> np
19:10 <Pogogunner> A wolf? I guess you don't live near any cities
19:10 <MTughan> Guess camel's aren't made for North American terrain. :P
19:10 <xcamel> not really, and the authorities won't admit there are wolves back in NY - lots of them
19:10 <Pogogunner> Why not shoot them?
19:11 <xcamel> we've killed 2 of the 3 around here already
19:11 <Pogogunner> I say organize a wolf hunt
19:11 <xcamel> one shot, one killed by a snowplow
19:11 <Pogogunner> Whoever kills the biggest wins $100
19:11 <xcamel> technically, they're protected
19:11 <Pogogunner> So?
19:11 <MTughan> Ah, technicalities.
19:12 <xcamel> unless they're killing your livestock
19:12 <MTughan> Camel's not livestock then?
19:12 <xcamel> he got him at 4 months, and he had just turned 11 years old
19:12 <Pogogunner> I think the city has more to worry about in the murders than the wolves
19:12 <xcamel> city murders are just darwin's law at work..
19:13 <Pogogunner> Why's that, then?
19:13 <Pogogunner> It always seems like its an innocent person that dies
19:14 <Rookie_69> If I look back, someone said Canadian... Are they allowed here?
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19:14 <MTughan> I'm Canadian.
19:14 <crash_> hello :D
19:14 <MTughan> 'lo crash_
19:14 <Rookie_69> Nova Scotia here.
19:14 <Pogogunner> Does Milk really come in bags?
19:15 <Pogogunner> The one time I went to Canada, I didn't buy any milk :(
19:15 <Rookie_69> They're called udders...
19:15 <MTughan> Some provinces have big plastic jugs. We get bags here in Toronto though.
19:15 <Rookie_69> ;-)
19:15 <MTughan> lol
19:16 <MTughan> So Rookie_69: How's life out east?
19:16 <Pogogunner> Cold
19:16 <Rookie_69> PEI still sells milk in bottles, I think.
19:16 <MTughan> &weather Toronto
19:16 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 27Â°F / -3Â°C | Humidity: 55% | Pressure: 30.02in / 1016hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 18mph / 30km/h | Updated: 7:00 PM EST; Tonight - Increasing cloudiness. 30 percent chance of flurries overnight. Wind west 40 km/h (25 mph) gusting to 70 km/h (43 mph) diminishing to 20 km/h (12 mph) this evening. Temperature steady near -4C(24F).; Saturday - Overcast. Wind (1 more message)
19:16 <Rookie_69> Wet.
19:16 <MTughan> &more
19:16 <Romulus> MTughan: west 30 km/h (19 mph). Temperature steady near -5C(23F). Saturday night cloudy periods. Wind west 30 km/h (19 mph). Low -11C(12F).; Sunday - A mix of sun and cloud with 30 percent chance of flurries. Windy. High -10C(14F).;
19:16 <MTughan> Doesn
19:17 <Romulus> Jay got around to installing SQLite?
19:17 <MTughan> ..'t say the windchill, but it was damn cold this morning.
19:17 <MTughan> lol, Rommie's asking about himsel.
19:17 <MTughan> himself*
19:17 <Rookie_69> &weather yhz
19:17 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 43Â°F / 6Â°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.55in / 1001hPa | Conditions: Light Drizzle | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 21mph / 33km/h | Updated: 8:00 PM AST; Tonight - Rain ending this evening then clearing. Amount 10 mm(0.4 in). Fog patches dissipating this evening. Wind southeast 60 km/h (37 mph) gusting to 100 km/h (62 mph) becoming southwest 40 km/h (25 mph) gusting to 60 km/h (1 more message)
19:17 <Rookie_69> &more
19:17 <Romulus> Rookie_69: (37 mph) this evening then west 20 km/h (12 mph) overnight. Low -4C(24F).; Saturday - A mix of sun and cloud. 40 percent chance of flurries in the afternoon. Wind west 20 km/h (12 mph). High 0C(32F). Saturday night flurries. Amount 2 cm(0.8 in). Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light near midnight. Low -4C(24F).; Sunday - Flurries. Windy. High -3C(26F).;
19:17 <xcamel> how precient
19:17 <MTughan> Wow, that's warm...
19:18 <xcamel> get ready glenn.. it's going to single digits here..
19:18 <Rookie_69> Southerly wind bringing warm weather.
19:18 <Kathryn_> &weather ulsan
19:18 <Romulus> Kathryn_: Temperature: 32Â°F / 0Â°C | Humidity: 26% | Pressure: 30.51in / 1033hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 2mph / 4km/h | Updated: 9:00 AM KST; Clear. High:44 ° F. / 7 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:30 ° F. / -1 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. High:46 ° F. / 8 ° C.; Overcast. Low:33 ° F. / 1 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:48 ° F. / 9 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:37 ° F. / 3 ° C.;
19:18 <MTughan> And we just got hit by a cold front from the north.
19:18 <MTughan> We got up to 11C earlier this week.
19:18 <xcamel> we're going down to -16 c by sunday
19:19 <MTughan> Wow...
19:19 <Rookie_69> Last week was almost summer weather. Only wore long johns once.
19:19 <Rookie_69> Lol.
19:19 <Kathryn_> :)
19:19 <MTughan> Looks like the coldest we'll get to is -11 next Friday.
19:20 <MTughan> Sucks, that's my last exam day.
19:20 <Pogogunner> People use celcius for the weather?
19:20 * Tank_Master never wares pants
19:20 <xcamel> you get a little help from the lake
19:20 <xcamel> TNI...TM
19:20 <MTughan> Celsius. And it's the standard unit for temperature.
19:20 <Tank_Master> popo, most people here arent from the states
19:20 <MTughan> You American are just messed with Fahrenheit.
19:20 <Pogogunner> Celcius should be for science, Farenheit is better for most weather
19:20 <Tank_Master> no, c is better for science
19:21 <MTughan> It's good for weather. When it's 0C or under, we can expect ice.
19:21 <xcamel> F is for frigid
19:21 <Tank_Master> 0 is the temp water freezes at at sea level, and 100 is the temp water boils at
19:21 <xcamel> K is for color
19:21 <Tank_Master> lol
19:21 <MTughan> K and C use the same scale actually.
19:21 <Pogogunner> Hmm, America should switch to Kelvins
19:21 <MTughan> Just a different 0.
19:21 <Pogogunner> Just for fun
19:21 <Tank_Master> popo, do you know what 0f even represents?
19:21 <Rookie_69> 0 c water freezes... 100 c water boils.
19:21 <Pogogunner> Aboslute zero, right MT?
19:21 <MTughan> Right.
19:22 <Pogogunner> TM, I thought it didn't stand for anything
19:22 <Tank_Master> seriously
19:22 <Pogogunner> I know 32 and 212, though
19:22 <Rookie_69> Ok is absolute...
19:22 <MTughan> K = C - 273.15
19:22 <Rookie_69> 0 k...
19:22 <Tank_Master> when they make the f scale, 0 was the coldest temp man could make
19:22 <MTughan> Think of K and C as the same, just different places.
19:22 <xcamel> or 0 Kelvin for absolute 0
19:22 <Tank_Master> what was 100 representing?
19:23 <Tank_Master> MTughan yes, they are
19:23 <Pogogunner> The hottest?
19:23 <Tank_Master> nope
19:23 <MTughan> Tank_Master: I know. Chemistry is good for a lot of things.
19:23 <Tank_Master> that was the body temp of the queen of englend at the time
19:23 <Pogogunner> Bah, I hate chemistry
19:24 <Rookie_69> I liked chemistry, just not my chemistry teacher...
19:24 <Tank_Master> but she had a fever, so thats why we are stuck with such a screwed up scale
19:24 <Rookie_69> I failed.
19:24 <xcamel> need some more of those scripts run
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19:25 <MTughan> We scared him off. :P
19:25 <xcamel> wineguy?
19:25 <xcamel> interesting /nick
19:25 <MTughan> crash.
19:25 <Rookie_69> Hi, Washington!
19:25 <wineguy> hey
19:25 <MTughan> wineguy just joined, didn't quit.
19:26 <Rookie_69> Doug's around somewhere.
19:26 <xcamel> he was..
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19:26 <wdsmia> still here
19:26 <Rookie_69> This wineguy your brother?
19:26 <xcamel> crash 'uncrashed'
19:27 <wineguy> yes
19:27 <Rookie_69> Thought so.
19:27 <wineguy> unfortunately
19:27 <wdsmia> :P
19:27 <MTughan> Hmm... Tank_Master: According to Wikipedia, he didn't use the queen's temp.
19:27 <MTughan> For F.
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19:27 <Tank_Master> o.O?
19:27 <Romulus> Title: Fahrenheit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
19:28 <Pogogunner> Fahrenheit noted that, using this scale, mercury boils at around 600 degrees.
19:28 <Pogogunner> WHO BOILS MERCURY?
19:28 <MTughan> According to an article referenced on there, he used the coldest mix known to man (ice, salt, and water) and his body temp.
19:29 <MTughan> Pogogunner: Apparently, Daniel Fahrenheit did.
19:29 <xcamel> wineguy is whos brother?
19:30 <Tank_Master> why would he fix body temp to 96?
19:30 <MTughan> Who knows.
19:30 <Tank_Master> whats the signifagence of 100?
19:30 <xcamel> it has 3 digits..
19:30 <Pogogunner> Multiple of 10
19:30 <Tank_Master> I was tought 100 was the body temp of the queen of england
19:31 <Pogogunner> Humans have ten fingers, so they like to go by tens
19:31 <Pogogunner> Or that's what I was told, anyway
19:31 <MTughan> It's always possible Wikipedia's wrong, but it's unlikely.
19:32 <Kathryn_> This has been fascinating. But given my severe sleep debt and it's Saturday, I'm going back to bed.
19:32 <Kathryn_> Laters all
19:32 <MTughan> Bye.
19:32 <wineguy> ttfn
19:32 <Romulus> I hike it all behind me really.......
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19:32 <Tank_Master> never heard of the rankine scale...
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19:32 <MTughan> Rankine is to Fahrenheit as Kelvin is to Celsius.
19:32 <Tank_Master> ahh
19:32 <Tank_Master> ok
19:33 <Tank_Master> still never heard of it ;)
19:33 <MTughan> Yeah, figures. Because Kelvin is the scientific standard.
19:33 <MTughan> Anyway, 0R = 0K.
19:33 <Acili> hello. I can only run boinc when I swich to root in console. If I try to run it as user I get: "make sure you start this program in the same directory as the client". How do I correct this?
19:33 <xcamel> btw.. she's an english teacher in S. Korea
19:34 <xcamel> Ac.. did you turn off 'selinux'
19:34 <xcamel> also.. is it a really new box?
19:34 <Acili> xcamel: is it selinux preventing it? No I didnt turn of selinux. Dont know howto.
19:34 <Acili> "is it a really new box"?
19:34 <xcamel> uh boy..
19:35 <xcamel> really new computer...
19:35 <Acili> well - its a nearly new installation of fedora 8
19:35 <xcamel> I hit something in the bios of my newest box.. 'data execution prevention'
19:35 <Acili> in the bios??
19:36 <MTughan> Acili: Running GNOME or KDE?
19:36 <xcamel> whis would stop boinc from running, believe it or not...
19:36 <Acili> MTughan: running GNOME
19:36 <Acili> it works just fine - as root
19:36 <MTughan> Well, we can turn off SELinux for the time being.
19:36 <xcamel> bte Acili hawmps==xcamel
19:36 <xcamel> (at home)
19:36 <MTughan> System->Administration->SELinux Management
19:37 <xcamel> did you go back and install the rpm ?
19:37 <Acili> xcamel: I installed the rpm yes
19:37 <MTughan> This is on F7 BTW, so it may be different from F8.
19:37 <MTughan> Acili: System->Administration->SELinux Management
19:37 <Acili> MTughan: yes, next?
19:37 <MTughan> I have two fields of interest here...
19:38 <MTughan> "System Default Enforcing Mode" and "Current Enforcing Mode". Are they there?
19:38 <Acili> yes, they are both enforcing
19:38 <MTughan> Change current do disabled, then default to disabled.
19:38 <MTughan> s/do/to
19:39 <Acili> dissabled = permissive?
19:39 <MTughan> Not permissive... What else is there?
19:39 <Acili> there is just permissive
19:39 <MTughan> Enforcing and Permissive?
19:39 <Acili> the default I can disable
19:39 <Romulus> bla appears the boinc benchmark is now 100k in ALL projects (with work)
19:39 <Acili> but current I can either enforce or permissive
19:39 <MTughan> Okay. Can you do a reboot then?
19:39 <MTughan> Not right now...
19:40 <MTughan> If you can, change default to disabled and reboot.
19:40 <xcamel> which part of it will run as root?
19:40 <Acili> it says: changing to SElinux disabled requires a reboot. It is not recommended. If you later..... "
19:41 <Acili> I leave the current enforced... and disable the system default... and reboot?
19:41 <xcamel> nanny mode reminder..
19:41 <MTughan> Yes, that's right.
19:41 <Acili> ok
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19:42 <MTughan> I take it by that it's a new Fedora 8 install, it's probably an older computer. Probably just SELinux.
19:42 <MTughan> Older being a relative term here.
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19:45 <Acili> MTughan: strange. There was created a new user called "boinc" in the login window?
19:46 <MTughan> Then it installed fine.
19:46 <MTughan> That's where BOINC runs it's executables.
19:46 <Acili> what should I do next?
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19:47 <MTughan> Log in as normal. See if BOINC runs.
19:48 <Acili> I guess it runs now. Its retreiving. I run boincmgr in console.
19:48 <xcamel> hmm.. your user other than rood needs permissions to run programs as 'boinc' user
19:48 <MTughan> Not the GUI?
19:48 <xcamel> er root even
19:48 <Acili> "boinc manager is not able to connect to BOINC client. Would you like to try to connect again".
19:49 <Acili> I have no GUI. No menu, no icon?
19:49 <MTughan> Where did you get it? Package Manger?
19:49 <MTughan> Manager*
19:49 <Acili> as far as I know I can only run boinc by opening a console and type boincmgr.
19:49 <Soul_keeper> i done tore that backyard up with the mower
19:49 <MTughan> There's a better way...
19:49 <Soul_keeper> even hit the neighbor's yard too
19:49 <Tank_Master> wb SK
19:49 <Acili> I have installed a .rpm file via the package manager
19:49 <Romulus> Title: Download BOINC client software (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
19:50 <MTughan> "Recommended version (Ubuntu Release - standard GUI)"
19:50 <xcamel> we tried that one earlier, mike...
19:50 <MTughan> Oh?
19:50 <xcamel> it still didn't run, and I've been racking my brain as to why...
19:50 <MTughan> 5.10.28 GUI running fine on my system.
19:50 <Acili> lets try again :$
19:51 <xcamel> I showed him how to do the 'slick install'
19:51 <MTughan> I don't think Fedora 7 and Fedora 8 are that much different.
19:51 <xcamel> in /opt/BOINC
19:51 <Acili> im downloading the standar GUI (4.25 MB)
19:51 <xcamel> they're not...
19:51 <MTughan> Exactly.
19:51 <Acili> xcamel I figured out how to get permission to rwx in the /opt folder
19:52 <Acili> (lets try again - I have good feelings this time)
19:52 <MTughan> chmod 0777 /opt
19:52 <MTughan> rwxrwxrwx permissions.
19:52 <MTughan> 0755 - rwxr-xr-x
19:52 <Acili> download of boinc_5.8.16_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh complete
19:53 <Acili> moving it to the /opt folder
19:53 *** Alphinux|The is now known as Alphinux
19:53 <MTughan> Wait, that's 5.8.16...
19:53 * Alphinux is away: At the club
19:53 <MTughan> Get 5.10.28.
19:53 <Romulus> On and on a p2?
19:53 <MTughan> Under "Linux/x86".
19:53 <Acili> but thats command line interface only?
19:53 <MTughan> One more down.
19:54 <Acili> oh. Ubuntu release standard gui?
19:54 <MTughan> Yeah.
19:54 <MTughan> Not sure why they name Ubuntu though. Works on Fedora, probably on more.
19:54 <Tank_Master> thats because they are only conserend with that one distro
19:54 <Acili> done
19:55 <MTughan> chmod +x it.
19:55 <Tank_Master> if it works on others, great, if not, they are going to fix it
19:55 <Tank_Master> arent*
19:55 <Acili> MTughan: tell me exatly how to do it
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19:55 <MTughan> Did you move it to /opt/BOINC?
19:55 <Acili> the .sh file is on my desktop now
19:55 <Tank_Master> z!!
19:55 <MTughan> Okay.
19:55 <MTughan> cd ~/Desktop
19:55 <Acili> should I create a BOINC folder?
19:55 <MTughan> chmod +x boinc_ubuntu_5.10.28_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh
19:55 <MTughan> That will for you.
19:56 <MTughan> Or rather, this will...
19:56 <MTughan> ./boinc_ubuntu_5.10.28_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh
19:56 <Acili> did chmod
19:56 <Acili> now ./boinc_ubuntu..... ?
19:56 <MTughan> Yep.
19:56 <Acili> use /home/Sadik/Desktop/BOINC/run_manager to start BOINC
19:57 <MTughan> After that, you should be left with a BOINC folder on your desktop. Move it to where you want it.
19:57 <Acili> ok. Where should I move it? - Where is best?
19:57 <MTughan> Then double-click run_manager in there or run it from the terminal, as the script says.
19:57 <xcamel> I'm off to watch some scifi -- cu later
19:57 * xcamel is away: Gone away for now.
19:57 *** xcamel is now known as xcamel_away
19:57 <Acili> leave it on desktop?
19:57 <MTughan> Doesn't matter too much. I left it on my desktop, but yours may be cluttered.
19:58 <MTughan> You could do ~/BOINC too.
19:58 <Acili> "do you want to run "run_manager, or display its contents"
19:58 <MTughan> Run.
19:58 <Acili> "run manager" is an executable text file
19:58 <Acili> run in terminal
19:58 <Acili> run
19:58 <MTughan> Yep, it's a shell script. Run, not run in Terminal.
19:59 <Acili> got it
19:59 <MTughan> From there, you'll have to attach to a project, then you can do stuff.
19:59 <Acili> no sign of that pesky warning
19:59 <Acili> success
19:59 <Romulus> can't remember what it was stress induced due to final area assigned when retired
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20:01 <MTughan> I know I prefer the Advanced View, but that's a personal preference.
20:01 <Acili> its running now
20:02 <Acili> what about SElinux - change it back to enforcing?
20:02 <MTughan> No.
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20:02 <Tank_Master> yeppie!
20:02 <Acili> leave it as it is?
20:02 <MTughan> Not sure how well it works, or even what it's purpose is, but it interferes with BOINC.
20:02 <MTughan> TM: Not so fast. Check #boinc-credit.
20:03 <Acili> ok
20:03 <Acili> MTughan: one last question.
20:03 <Acili> what happens when I close it down now?
20:03 <Acili> does it still run in "background"... or is it terminated?
20:03 <MTughan> I believe it'll just keep crunching. You just have to do run_manager again to bring it back up.
20:03 <MTughan> I just keep mine minimized.
20:04 <Acili> and its nok like a screensaver that activates... it just keeps crunching in background?
20:04 <MTughan> As I know. I don't think I've actually tested that myself.
20:05 <Acili> ok
20:05 <MTughan> I'm relatively new to crunching on Linux. My main machine is a Mac, but it's in for service right now.
20:05 <MTughan> Tank_Master: Now he's gone.
20:06 <Rookie_69> We have been informed of the passing of a dedicated SETI@home volunteer and active participant on the forums, Dennis Peters, (aka Dogbytes). Our condolences go out to his family and friends.
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20:06 <MTughan> 'lo e
20:06 <MTughan> <Rookie_69> We have been informed of the passing of a dedicated SETI@home volunteer and active participant on the forums, Dennis Peters, (aka Dogbytes). Our condolences go out to his family and friends.
20:07 <Acili> RIP
20:07 <efc> :(
20:08 <Rookie_69> I'll have to sip a beer in his honour,
20:08 <Rookie_69> Hi, Eddie.
20:09 <wdsmia> It's with great sadness and many,many tears that that I have to tell you that at 1.00pm on 21st. December ,2007 Dogbytes passed away.
20:09 <wdsmia> from Keith TFFE
20:09 <MTughan> December 21st? That was a little while ago...
20:09 <Soul_keeper> &math convert 1 knot to mile
20:09 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Error: unit categories did not match
20:09 <Soul_keeper> &math convert 1 knot to mph
20:09 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: 1.15077944802
20:10 <Soul_keeper> &math 500*1.15
20:10 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: 575
20:10 <MTughan> &math calc [math convert 1 knot to mph] * 500
20:10 <Romulus> MTughan: 575.38972401
20:11 <MTughan> Heh, not that much different...
20:11 <Rookie_69> Today is a first for several belated tragedies for me :-(
20:11 <Acili> &math solve(xÂ²-x=0,x)
20:11 <Romulus> Acili: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
20:11 <Soul_keeper> &math 65*1.15
20:11 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: 74.75
20:12 <Acili> (Romulus is cool)
20:12 <Soul_keeper> &math convert 1 mph to kph
20:12 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: 1.609344
20:13 * Tank_Master likes his new GeForce 8800 GTS 512MB card
20:13 <Soul_keeper> &math calc [math convert 1 kph to mph] * 65
20:13 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: 40.3891274954
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20:15 * wdsmia slaps Tank_Master around with a GeForce 8800 GTS
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20:16 <Tank_Master> hey, I actually rememeber the name dogbyte
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20:17 * Tank_Master takes wdsmia's GeForce 8800 gts and put is in his second 16x PCI-e slot
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20:19 <Acili> oh no :(
20:19 <Acili> help
20:19 <Tank_Master> vut u vont?
20:19 <Acili> I started tvtime.... it says "permission denied, cannot open capture device /dev/video0"
20:20 <MTughan> Run it as root.
20:20 <Acili> I rebooted... and some things didnt get the ok clearence
20:20 <MTughan> The okay clearance for what?
20:20 <Tank_Master> parking
20:20 <Acili> uff I dont remember :(
20:21 <Acili> something about /var should not be a global something
20:21 <Acili> Im worried that I may have altered the permissions for that folder
20:21 <Acili> (and now even boinc cant connect)
20:23 <Rookie_69> Gotta go.
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20:24 <Romulus> is there a performance setting that I can go diving is priceless
20:25 <Acili> I really have some permission denied issues. Amarok gives an error message saying: "error initializing the sound driver: device /dev/dsp cant be opened (permission denied)".
20:26 <Soul_keeper> Acili, chmod 666 /dev/dsp
20:28 <Acili> that worked - now amarok is ok
20:28 <Acili> another problem is that /media folder is empty :(
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20:28 <Acili> my backup disk and usb drive is gone
20:29 <Soul_keeper> what do you mean "gone" ?
20:29 <Acili> they are not mounted
20:29 <Soul_keeper> df -hT shows mounted drives
20:29 <Soul_keeper> edit your /etc/fstab to automount them on boot next time
20:30 <Acili> how do I do that?
20:30 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
20:30 <Soul_keeper> be more specific, what device are you trying to mount here
20:31 <Acili> well before In the /media folder I used to have a "BACKUP" drive....
20:31 <Acili> and "Store N GO" usb stick
20:31 <Acili> and "48.4 GB drive" where the windows resides
20:31 <Soul_keeper> you had two dirs inside /media named those "?
20:32 <Acili> they used to mounted and accesible
20:32 <Acili> BACKUP, Store N GO, and 48.8 GB disk
20:33 <Soul_keeper> you need to create a dir for a mount point for example mkdir /media/backup1 && mount /dev/sdb1 /media/backup1
20:33 <Acili> what is going on with the system? Could all this happen just by disabling SElinux?
20:34 <Soul_keeper> check dmesg |more for info on the device names and to see if they got detected
20:34 <Soul_keeper> i dunno what SElinux is ... i just use slackware
20:35 <Acili> omg I dont know what to look for in dmesg|more
20:35 <Acili> hold on. I will enable SELInux again
20:35 <Soul_keeper> look for your drive
20:35 <Acili> (this is not going to well for me at the moment)
20:35 <Soul_keeper> it'll say something like Detected /dev/sdb or whatever
20:36 <wineguy> time to run - ttfn
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20:36 <Soul_keeper> it's all easy stuff, don't go stressin' yurself out
20:37 <Acili> this is the output of dmesg|more (its very long)
20:38 <Acili> I dont see any detected /dev/sdb drives
20:39 <MTughan> &pastebin
20:39 <MTughan> &ping
20:39 <Romulus> pong
20:39 <MTughan> Where's the pastebin thing...
20:40 <MTughan> &pastebin
20:40 <MTughan> &alias pastebin
20:40 <MTughan> Oh well.
20:41 <Acili> if tvtime says "permission denied, cannot open capture device /dev/video0".. would this be a solution: chmod +x /dev/video0 ?
20:42 <Soul_keeper> no
20:42 <Acili> sorry chmod 666 /dev/video09
20:42 <Soul_keeper> try chmod 666 /dev/vid*
20:42 <Acili> chmod 666 /dev/video0
20:42 <MTughan> 666... rw-rw-rw-?
20:42 <Soul_keeper> if it still don't work it's probably your drivers
20:42 <MTughan> And that'd be 0666.
20:43 <MTughan> Acili: Don't do that command!
20:43 <Acili> :( did it - and now tvtime works
20:43 <MTughan> Oh...
20:43 <MTughan> The preceding 0 is important as it shows the terminal that the number's octal, not base 10.
20:43 <MTughan> Decimal, in other words.
20:44 <Soul_keeper> 655 is more appropriate
20:44 <Soul_keeper> read/execute for everyone, and write for owner
20:44 <MTughan> Shouldn't you do 755 then?
20:44 <Soul_keeper> i mostly don't care on my system tho ...
20:45 <Acili> well never mind.. (for now)
20:45 <Soul_keeper> sure if you think you'll ever need to execute a sounds device ....
20:45 <Soul_keeper> lol
20:45 <Acili> the only thing I need to setup now is the missing drives in /media
20:45 <Soul_keeper> find the devices in dmesg
20:46 <Soul_keeper> pastebin it, also pastebin lsmod if you can't figure it out
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20:48 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
20:49 <Acili> at some point I need to reboot and tell you where the system gives me "failed" instead of "ok".
20:50 <Soul_keeper> probably not important
20:51 <Soul_keeper> ok
20:51 <Soul_keeper> you have sda and sdb
20:52 <Soul_keeper> 3 partitions on sda and one on sdb
20:52 <Acili> yes
20:52 <Acili> and one usb stick
20:52 <Soul_keeper> and your usb device was detected, double check with lsusb
20:52 <Acili> yes
20:53 <Soul_keeper> try mounting sdb
20:53 <Soul_keeper> mkdir /media/backup1 && mount /dev/sdb1 /media/backup1
20:54 <mweltin> cron runs without error
20:54 <mweltin> but the page is always blank
20:55 <Acili> succes
20:55 <Acili> I have acces now
20:55 <Soul_keeper> you got a 2GB usb stick ?
20:55 <Acili> yes
20:55 <Soul_keeper> then that one is sdc
20:55 <Acili> maybe I should also mount sdb2?
20:56 <Acili> the third partition
20:56 <Soul_keeper> mkdir /media/usb1 && mount /dev/sdc1 /media/usb1
20:56 <Soul_keeper> you don't have an sdb2
20:57 <Soul_keeper> #
20:57 <Soul_keeper> sd 0:0:1:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
20:57 <Soul_keeper> #
20:57 <Soul_keeper> sdb: sdb1
20:57 <Soul_keeper> sda: sda1 sda2 sda3
20:57 <Acili> I understand
20:57 <Soul_keeper> do cfdisk /dev/sda or /dev/sdb to see what partitions are on there, or fdisk -l just don't modify them
20:57 <Acili> Im looking for the partition where windows is installed
20:58 <Acili> I had access to that one too
20:58 <Acili> and all this happened automatically
20:58 <Soul_keeper> fdisk -l /dev/sda should show a ntfs or fat filesystem for it
20:58 <Soul_keeper> we'll set up your /etc/fstab to mount these auto next time you boot
20:59 <Acili> cfdisk /dev/sda shows a ntfs drive
20:59 <Acili> size 47188 MB
20:59 <Soul_keeper> which one ? sda2 sda3 ?
21:00 <Acili> sda1 is ntfs, sda2 is linux ext3, sda3 is Linux LVM
21:00 <Acili> ntfs is sda1
21:01 <infinisoft> hmm, is there a site somewhere that tracks the recently connected clients page from SETI?
21:02 <Soul_keeper> ok mkdir /media/windows
21:02 <Soul_keeper> mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/windows
21:02 <Acili> done
21:02 <infinisoft> If not, I think to make one, it would be nice to see.
21:03 <Romulus> Title: List of recently connected client types (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)
21:03 <infinisoft> yeah.
21:03 <MTughan> That page, or a page that tracks that page?
21:03 <infinisoft> tracking it.
21:04 <Acili> now its time for editing the /etc/fstab I think
21:04 <infinisoft> So you can see aggregate client versions or platforms
21:04 <infinisoft> Daily.
21:04 <MTughan> I don't know of a page tracking it.
21:04 <infinisoft> Ah, I think it might be nice to have one, hehe. Just made a db for it :)
21:04 <Soul_keeper> Acili, what kinda filesystem is on the usb drive ?
21:05 <Acili> ummm.... im not sure.
21:05 <Acili> i think its ntfs
21:05 <Soul_keeper> df -hT
21:05 <Acili> vfat
21:06 <Soul_keeper> i really don't like your /etc/fstab it's nonstandard
21:06 <Acili> /dev/sdc1 vfat 983 M /media/usb1
21:06 <Soul_keeper> my entries look more like this /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 ext3 defaults 1 1
21:07 <Acili> do you dualboot?
21:07 <Soul_keeper> they tryed to make theirs "user friendly" with whatever distro you are using ...
21:08 <MTughan> I dual boot my machine.
21:08 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
21:08 <Soul_keeper> your fstab should look something like that
21:08 <Soul_keeper> not sure what your mapper thing is either, i have no experience with such things
21:09 <xcamel_away> sitting in the dark with a lighted keyboard is nice..
21:09 <Soul_keeper> xcamel_away, haha we got the same keyboard, remember ? :)
21:09 <Acili> hmm Soul_keeper.. my fstab is slightly different.
21:09 <Soul_keeper> Acili, well modify it
21:10 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
21:10 <Soul_keeper> ahhh
21:10 <Soul_keeper> so what you pasted earlier wasn't your fstab then ?
21:11 <Soul_keeper> gimme a min
21:11 <Acili> no I think that was the output of fstab or something. This was my fstab.
21:11 <Acili> sorry :(
21:11 <Acili> that didnt make sense -
21:12 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
21:12 <Acili> (the earlier one was fdisk - I think)
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21:14 <Soul_keeper> make it look like that then try rebooting
21:14 <Acili> ok
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21:17 <Acili> hmm I couldt just copy and paste - didnt have the permission to save the file :)
21:17 <Acili> (thinking of any quick way to do this)
21:18 <Soul_keeper> yeah gotta be root to mess around in /etc usually
21:18 <Soul_keeper> middle mouse usually does a paste in linux :)
21:18 <Soul_keeper> just highlight to copy
21:18 <Acili> yea yea - but the thing is i cannot save. i did copy and paste
21:18 <xcamel_away> still not running yet?
21:19 <Soul_keeper> you can't save to the file unless you are root
21:19 <Acili> yea
21:19 <xcamel_away> dumb question, but have you tried 'sudo' ??
21:21 <Acili> fstab changed
21:21 <Acili> and by the way Soul_keeper.... thanks
21:21 <Acili> you have been very helpfull
21:22 <Soul_keeper> :)
21:22 <Soul_keeper> yeah stop by my chan sometime #linuxsociety
21:22 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: What is it?
21:22 <Acili> I will
21:22 <MTughan> Judging from the filename, the new form of red light camera?
21:22 <Soul_keeper> MTughan, Photo-Robocop
21:23 <MTughan> lol, nice.
21:23 <Acili> << rebooting
21:23 <Soul_keeper> gl
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21:24 <Romulus> Title: BOINC Stuff - Client Stats (at boinc.aqstats.com)
21:25 <Soul_keeper> lol
21:26 <MTughan> So Windows, Intel Mac, x86 Linux, Win64, then PPC Mac.
21:26 <MTughan> Oh, and x86_64 Linux. The numbers drop off after that.
21:26 <Soul_keeper> impressive
21:27 <Soul_keeper> i gotta go get me some food, bbl
21:27 <MTughan> But far and away, Windows.
21:29 <xcamel_away> you get it working for AC there SK?
21:29 <MTughan> I got BOINC working, but it seemed to mess up some other stuff. He fixed that.
21:30 <MTughan> He didn't get any warnings with that. May have been that he downloaded 5.8.16 first.
21:31 <xcamel_away> good enough
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22:30 <Soul_keeper> you think it's even still possible for any ol' joe just to say they want to be a farmer and actually have a fighting chance at making a living doing it ?
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22:46 <Soul_keeper> hello
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22:46 <Kathryn> hi
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22:53 <KathrynM> One of these days I'll figure out irc..........
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23:00 <infinisoft> hello
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23:03 <infinisoft> hello
23:03 <KathrynM> Hi again
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23:05 <infinisoft> this page is goofed :/
23:05 <zombie67> hi!
23:07 <Romulus> Title: BOINC Stuff - Client Stats (at boinc.aqstats.com)
23:07 <infinisoft> Versions is incorrect somehow >_<
23:11 <MTughan> WTF? FF just crashed...
23:12 <Tank_Master> any your point?
23:12 <MTughan> Just was rather sudden... Playing a game in it.
23:12 <infinisoft> Oh wait, bad sql query, teehee
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23:14 <infinisoft> now it works
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23:23 <MTughan> 'lo Alphinux
23:24 <Alphinux> Hi MTughan
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23:26 <zombie67> milkyway is down again....
23:27 <infinisoft> I split the stats up between a few subpages.
23:28 <zombie67> and predictor is down. probably for good until the transfer.
23:29 <zombie67> and they did not export stats one last time like I requested.
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23:32 <infinisoft> Hmm.
23:32 <Romulus> Title: BOINC Stuff - Client Stats (at boinc.aqstats.com)
23:34 <zombie67> nice
23:34 <zombie67> version 0.0.0?
23:35 <infinisoft> Something at SETI does that
23:35 <infinisoft> Maybe failed to parse their apache logs for the version and platform
23:36 <zombie67> macs over 8%
23:36 <zombie67> nice
23:37 <infinisoft> Since people wanted to know how many are using old clients or somesuch.
23:37 <zombie67> what is the platform for PPC linux?
23:37 <MTughan> powerpc-linux-gnu
23:37 <infinisoft> I will set up a periodic task to collect data each day and see how the percentages fluctuates
23:38 <zombie67> there are *0* powerpc-linux-gnu??
23:38 <infinisoft> Might notice how fast it takes for a new version to get around or something, heh :)
23:38 <zombie67> hell, there are 3 (!) powerpc-ibm-aix5
23:39 <zombie67> I use your sig stats for both pg and rs
23:39 <zombie67> thanks!
23:40 <infinisoft> Cool
23:40 <infinisoft> The client stats are for recently, maybe for connections in the last hour or so, I'm not exactly sure
23:42 <infinisoft> Actually I have not made the HTML page to show the PG histories either :/
23:45 <infinisoft> Lets see.
23:59 <infinisoft> oh! I'm missing one of the PG apps
23:59 <infinisoft> whoops
23:59 <zombie67> eh?