IRC logs of #boinc for Sunday, 2008-01-20

00:01 <MTughan> 'lo seth

00:02 <sethy> >;o


00:02 <MTughan> ...

00:02 <MTughan> Turn off Caps Lock.

00:03 <sethy> no u?

00:03 <sethy> you put caps on your t's

00:03 * wdsmia slaps MTughan around with a large cap lock

00:03 <MTughan> Missed the "s".

00:03 <sethy> no he didnt

00:03 <sethy> its a cannon

00:04 <sethy> only uses 1 shell

00:04 <MTughan> Ah, whatever.

00:04 * efc puts a cap in the lock

00:23 <sethy> D:

00:24 <sethy> wdsmia?

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00:42 <MTughan> And he said he never quits...

00:43 <MTughan> * wdsmia is allways here

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01:11 <Soul_keeper> bla

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01:52 <MTughan> Off to bed...

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02:33 <Tank_Master> #weather 97007

02:33 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

02:33 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 40.6F / 4.8C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015.1hPa | Conditions: Fog | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Showers. Snow level 1000 feet after midnight. Snow accumulation an inch or less above 1000 feet after midnight. Lows around 35. Southwest wind 5 to 15 mph.; Sunday - Mostly cloudy. Scattered showers in the morning. Snow level 500 feet in (2 more messages)

02:33 <Tank_Master> &more

02:33 <Romulus> Tank_Master: the morning. Local 1 inch snow accumulations. Highs 35 to 40. Light wind becoming northeast 10 to 20 mph in the afternoon except east 20 to 30 mph near The Gorge.; Sunday Night - Mostly clear. Colder. Lows in the upper teens to mid 20s. Northeast wind 10 to 20 mph...except east wind 25 to 35 mph with gusts to 45 mph near The Gorge.; Special Weather Statement for Washington County in effect until (1 more message)

02:33 <Tank_Master> &more

02:33 <Romulus> Tank_Master: 3:00 PM PST on January 20, 2008;

02:34 <Tank_Master> they keep talkin about snow, yet I never see it!

02:42 <FreeLarry58> lol yeah they talking about possible tonight here to

02:43 <FreeLarry58> &weather 98366

02:43 <Romulus> lol takes a while since I did 1.2k in hydrogen and depspid?

02:43 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: Temperature: 36F / 2C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 30.03in / 1017hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with showers likely in the evening...then a chance of snow showers. Snow accumulation up to 1 inch. Lows in the upper 20s to mid 30s. South wind 10 to 15 mph shifting to the northeast after midnight.; Sunday - Mostly cloudy with a (1 more message)

02:43 <FreeLarry58> &more

02:43 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: chance snow showers in the morning...then mostly sunny in the afternoon. Highs near 40. Northeast wind 10 to 20 mph.; Sunday Night - Colder. Mostly clear. Lows in the 20s. Northeast wind 15 to 20 mph.;

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02:55 <mweltin> hey all, how do I lock a thread in the forums?

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02:59 <mweltin> hey I need a hand

02:59 <mweltin>

02:59 <Romulus> <> (at

02:59 <mweltin> see if you can post to that thread

02:59 <mweltin> it should be locked

03:02 <FreeLarry58> sent a private message from thread to you but didn't see any reply or post buttons for me to try so guess is locked

03:03 <mweltin> thanks

03:03 <mweltin> perfect

03:06 <FreeLarry58> ;)

03:06 <FreeLarry58> did look to be getting out of hand there

03:07 <Tank_Master> :hey, I dont have credit for the WUs I have yet to crunch"

03:08 <Tank_Master> sound about right?

03:12 <FreeLarry58> yup or waiting for someone else to send in

03:13 <Tank_Master> yep, people cant read

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03:34 <Bad_At_Home> &weather 86023

03:34 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Temperature: 8F / -13.3C | Humidity: 90% | Pressure: in / hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 2mph / 3.2km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 9 on the North Rim to around 31 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Sunday - Partly cloudy. Highs around 39 on the North Rim to around 56 along the Colorado River. Light winds becoming south around 15 mph in the afternoon.; (1 more message)

03:34 <Bad_At_Home> &more

03:34 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Sunday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows around 19 on the North Rim to around 38 along the Colorado River. South winds around 15 mph.;

04:01 <MacG> &weather 66503

04:01 <Romulus> MacG: Temperature: 11F / -12C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 30.45in / 1031hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Bitterly cold. Mostly cloudy. Lows around 1 above...but temperatures rising into the teens after midnight. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Wind chill readings 8 below.; Sunday - Not as cold. Mostly cloudy. Highs around 30. Southeast winds 10 to (1 more message)

04:03 <Bad_At_Home> MacG &more

04:03 <MacG> meh, thats really all I need to know. "Bloody cold"

04:03 <Romulus> nice and will warn you long before they kick you out.

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06:03 <eix> "This computer is not attached to any projects". How can I fix that?

06:05 <FauxFaux> Attach it to a project!

06:05 <Kathryn__> Are you just getting started with BOINC eix?

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07:22 <Acili> hi all. It really seems I need to run BOINC (run_manager) everytime i log in. It doesnt start up automatically when I log on (I think). Any suggestions?

07:23 <Acili> I have to double click run_manager to pop up the boinc manager.

07:24 <Kathryn> You can try the script Eric has up for getting it to run automatically.

07:24 <Kathryn>

07:24 <Romulus> <> (at

07:24 <Kathryn> You also should be able to add the manager to whatever Gnome (you are using Gnome) calls the start menu.

07:25 <Acili> yes. As it is now there is just no trace of it. I have to start manually. Shouldnt it reside in the panel too?

07:26 <Kathryn> Not unless you install from a rpm or deb or the like.

07:26 <Kathryn> There's no prepackaged installer from Berkeley.  Just the .sh

07:33 <Acili> did it. And I was manually able to start and stop the boinc daemon. So in theory I should be good to go?

07:34 <Kathryn> In theory :)

07:34 <Acili> :)

07:34 <Acili> brb

07:34 <Kathryn> I'm off to bed.  Night all.

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08:10 <xcamel> 'mornin

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08:22 <andresgr> hi xcamel

08:27 <xcamel> 'lo Andre

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08:51 <yoyo[RKN]> hi

08:51 <yoyo[RKN]> I have a user who gets the following faults:

08:51 <yoyo[RKN]> No heartbeat from core client for 301 sec - exiting

08:52 <xcamel> running a mack book?

08:52 <yoyo[RKN]> windows

08:53 <xcamel> what boinc version?

08:54 <yoyo[RKN]> wait, I search the wu

08:55 <yoyo[RKN]> 5.10.30

08:56 <xcamel> might have been another runaway proc..

08:57 <FreeLarry58> occasionally get those here yoyo[RKN]

08:57 <yoyo[RKN]> its a win XP on a AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) XP [x86 Family 6 Model 10 Stepping 0]

08:57 <xcamel> resource overload will do it too..

08:58 <FreeLarry58> but mostly it just seems that things will stay locked up with cpu time increasing but on change in percentage - i let the one run over 36 hrs accumulation

08:58 <FreeLarry58> then finally aborted

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08:58 <yoyo[RKN]> hmm

08:59 <FreeLarry58> if i remember had one on a win machine and one on a linux

09:00 <xcamel> one thing that used to work.. if you raise the priority to 'realtime' for a minute, it will resume...

09:00 <FreeLarry58> but not showing on results page anymore so cant give further clues

09:01 <FreeLarry58> linux wouldn't let me do that - didn't try on windows ;/

09:02 <FreeLarry58> &nn all

09:02 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

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09:12 <xcamel> &weather 12074

09:13 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 12.4F / -10.9C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 30.07in / 1018.2hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of snow showers this morning...then scattered flurries this afternoon. Highs in the lower 20s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of snow 20 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in (1 more message)

09:13 <xcamel> &more

09:13 <Romulus> xcamel: the evening...then becoming mostly cloudy. Lows around 7 above. West winds around 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph.; Martin Luther King Jr Day - Mostly cloudy in the morning...then becoming partly sunny. Cold with highs in the lower 20s. West winds around 15 mph.;

09:19 <xcamel> burrrr

09:20 * c0dewarrior growls

09:21 <xcamel> 'lo CW

09:21 <c0dewarrior> howdy xcamel

09:21 <Romulus> i'd ask in #ubuntu as how to burn the field so you can see them in the mood to checkpoint

09:24 <xcamel> hows things in SA

09:24 <c0dewarrior> could be better, could be worse

09:25 <xcamel> getting into the hot season I bet..

09:26 <c0dewarrior> hottest month still due, but the weather's been rather arb all over...

09:26 <c0dewarrior> been raining for weeks

09:26 <xcamel> no drought to worry about then..

09:27 <c0dewarrior> well, the dry parts are still in need of rain...

09:27 <c0dewarrior> not floods..

09:30 <xcamel> I got one of my core2 quads up and running...

09:30 <xcamel> the other one was 'brain dead'

09:30 <xcamel> ..and id being replaced

09:30 <xcamel> is even

09:31 <c0dewarrior> awesome

09:38 <xcamel> boincstact pegged it at 3715 credits/day

09:38 <c0dewarrior> jeepers, nice

09:38 * xcamel can't type today

09:39 <xcamel> too friggin cold

09:40 <c0dewarrior> heh, snow?

09:40 <xcamel> 13F

09:40 <xcamel> a little snow..

09:41 <xcamel> &convert 13 F to C

09:41 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: The command "convert" is available in the Currency and Math plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "convert".

09:41 <xcamel> &math convert 13 F to C

09:41 <Romulus> xcamel: -10.5555555556

09:41 <xcamel> uh-huh

09:43 <xcamel> &alias add F2C '&math convert'

09:43 <Romulus> xcamel: The operation succeeded.

09:44 <xcamel> &F2C 13F to C

09:44 <Romulus> xcamel: Are you daft?

09:44 <xcamel> &alias add F2C &math convert

09:44 <Romulus> xcamel: The operation succeeded.

09:44 <xcamel> &F2C 13F to C

09:44 <Romulus> xcamel: Are you daft?

09:44 <xcamel> nope..

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10:08 <xcamel> off to feed the zoo..

10:09 <_Danilo_> Netsplit Detected Between Servers "Testing... <-> Worked."

10:09 <xcamel> ??

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10:26 <sethy> _o/

10:34 <sethy> omg i was like so scared

10:34 <sethy> i called spit and a guy answered

10:34 <sethy> so i asked if she is there and he said she's out so i'll call back in 2 hour

10:35 * sethy loads mozilla sunbird

10:37 <sethy> ok

10:38 <xcamel> could have been her husband..

10:39 <sethy> paul?

10:39 <xcamel> back again..

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10:50 <xcamel> let us know if you get hold of her..

10:50 <sethy> i am gonna call back in 2 hours

10:51 <xcamel> everybody has been very worried, and thinking about her lately

10:52 <sethy> its whyi'm calling :)

10:54 <sethy> i'm thinking about pov

10:54 <sethy> cos he doesnt know yet about dennis

10:54 <sethy> he should be coming back from holiday today

10:54 <xcamel> yep

10:57 <xcamel> anyone else here tried foobilliards?

10:58 <ELGono> sethy:  please send greetz to spit if you get her

10:58 <xcamel> 'lo ElG

10:58 <ELGono> y0 jay

10:59 <sethy> i will :)

10:59 <ELGono> if anyone ever deals with damaged superblocks on ext3 .... i recommend "testdisk"

10:59 <xcamel> bookmarking that one right away..

11:00 <ELGono> really helps to find copies of superblocks

11:00 <xcamel> how does it run - user mode 1?

11:01 <ELGono> just dealing with a broken disk in fileserver :(

11:01 <ELGono> uhh what was one? admin?

11:01 <xcamel> init::1

11:01 <ELGono> just remember 5 hehe

11:02 <ELGono> iirc mode1 was single user mode?

11:07 <xcamel> yep

11:07 <sethy> i'm still waiting for an e-mail from jacklass1

11:08 <sethy> regarding dennis

11:08 <xcamel> will testdisk run against LVM's ?

11:11 <xcamel> OK - it's in the yum repos

11:12 <xcamel> needs libewf, ntfsprogs.

11:12 <xcamel> not too bad at all

11:16 <ELGono> xcamel : yes, it detects lots of filesystems

11:16 <xcamel> looking at the docs now..

11:17 <sethy> testdisk is awesome, i use it for recovering logs and pics i need from corrupted hard drives

11:18 <ELGono> not bad for linux

11:18 <ELGono> for fat/ntfs i recommend getdataback

11:19 <sethy> got a link?

11:21 <xcamel> thanks for that.. much appreciated.

11:22 <xcamel> if you have a decent GL card/mesa in linux, foobulluards is very addictive

11:22 <Romulus> You American are just messed with Fahrenheit.

11:22 * xcamel still cant type

11:22 <Tank_Master_> stfu rommie

11:22 <Tank_Master_> you bots are just messed with your binary

11:23 <Tank_Master_> &weather 97007

11:23 <Tank_Master_> &more

11:23 <Romulus> Tank_Master_: Temperature: 38.8F / 3.8C | Humidity: 90% | Pressure: 29.96in / 1014.4hPa | Conditions: Fog | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Patchy fog and scattered showers in the morning. Snow level 500 feet in the morning. Local snow accumulations of 1 inch or less. Highs 35 to 40. Northeast wind 10 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Colder. Lows around 20 to 25. (1 more message)

11:23 <Romulus> Tank_Master_: Northeast wind 5 to 15 mph. Near The Gorge...east wind 15 to 25 mph increasing to 25 to 30 mph after midnight. Gusts to 45 mph near The Gorge.; Martin Luther King Jr Day - Mostly sunny. Highs 30 to 35. East wind 15 mph...except east wind 30 to 35 mph with gusts to 50 mph near The Gorge.; Special Weather Statement for Washington County in effect until 3:00 PM PST on January 20, 2008;

11:23 <Tank_Master_> &more

11:23 <Romulus> Tank_Master_: Error: That's all, there is no more.

11:23 <Romulus> 'bite me'

11:23 <Tank_Master_> lol

11:25 <xcamel> :-)

11:25 <xcamel> still only 15F here

11:26 <wdsmia> &weather 50319

11:26 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 1F / -17C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 30.63in / 1037hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Today - Very cold. Partly sunny in the morning...then cloudy with a chance of snow early in the afternoon. Cloudy with snow late in the afternoon. Snow accumulation up to 1 inch. High around 10. South wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the east in the afternoon. (2 more messages)

11:26 <wdsmia> &more

11:26 <Romulus> wdsmia: Chance of snow 80 percent.; Tonight - Snow likely. Not as cold. Snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches. Low 5 to 10 above. East wind 5 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 70 percent. Wind chill readings 5 to 10 below.; Martin Luther King Jr Day - Snow likely. Snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches. Total snow accumulation 2 to 5 inches. High 15 to 20. East wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 70 percent. Lowest wind chill (1 more message)

11:26 <wdsmia> &more

11:26 <Romulus> wdsmia: readings 5 to 10 below in the morning.;

11:26 <xcamel> yewoza

11:27 <xcamel> no thanks..

11:28 <Tank_Master_> lol

11:28 <Tank_Master_> no kiddin

11:29 <wdsmia> just abit on the chilly side

11:29 <Tank_Master_> brb

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11:29 <xcamel> sun came out - might warm up a little..

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11:32 <xcamel> gotta go after lunch and see if I can find a couple hydraulic fittings for my old groomer..

11:33 <xcamel> amazingly, I was able to pull it with my tractor yesterday -- after rigging up a hitchball for the towbar

11:33 <Romulus> takes a while since I move so many other things I'd like to try so guess is locked

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11:52 <xcamel> 'lo Mike

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11:54 <Tank_Master> yoyoyo

12:03 <xcamel> yoyeyo

12:04 <sethy> ye?

12:04 <sethy> call spit in 30 minutes

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12:06 <xcamel> lol gnats vs fudgepackers

12:07 <sethy> >;o

12:07 * xcamel hates football

12:07 * xcamel hates [american] football

12:09 * sethy hates sport

12:09 <sethy> end of

12:13 <xcamel> bbl..

12:15 <MTughan> Stupid AI app... Says 100% done, but still running, and no CPU activity from it.

12:17 <MTughan> &echo A C2Q 2.4GHz was able to finish it in [math convert 440 seconds to minutes] minutes.

12:17 <Romulus> A C2Q 2.4GHz was able to finish it in 7.33333333333 minutes.

12:18 <MTughan> WTF? Apparently mine has taken 24 minutes of CPU time... But it's been running since yesterday.

12:18 <sethy> maybe it means 24 hour

12:19 <sethy> eof

12:19 <MTughan> 00:23:43 from BOINC.

12:19 <sethy> 23 hours 43 minutes?

12:19 <Romulus> what do you know?

12:19 <sethy> alot?

12:20 <MTughan> Gah... That's what BOINC displays in the CPU time column. You know that's hh:mm:ss.

12:20 <sethy> yes i know, i'm not retarded or anything

12:21 <sethy> although you could mean its 43 minutes past the 23rd hour

12:21 <MTughan> So why did you think it might mean 24 hours.

12:21 <sethy> a,k,a 11:43PM

12:21 <MTughan> ?*

12:21 <sethy> why not?

12:21 <MTughan> Because BOINC can't change its time column to a different format for just one project.

12:21 <zombie67> has anyone built a 5.10.* for sparc?

12:22 <MTughan> zombie67: I think I did see one on a third party site... brb

12:22 <Tank_Master> awsome

12:22 <MTughan> zombie67: Solaris on SPARC?

12:22 <zombie67> yes

12:22 <Tank_Master> believ so

12:22 <zombie67> S10

12:22 <MTughan> Down the page a bit.

12:22 <Romulus> Title: BOINC Clients (at

12:22 <MTughan> 5.10.17.

12:23 <sethy> MTughan: do youir benchmarks again

12:23 <MTughan> To what, suspend a restart the app?

12:23 <MTughan> I've already done that.

12:23 <zombie67> thanks!!!

12:23 <sethy> your WU's are most likely out of sync

12:24 <MTughan> Benchmarks run, WUs back on...

12:24 <MTughan> 842 int, 1355 fp.

12:24 <MTughan> Yes, my laptop can do loads better than that. This is a 32-bit P4 for crying out loud.

12:25 <MTughan> Anyway, AI's back on. I'll check it again in 20 minutes or so.

12:26 <Tank_Master> &cad

12:26 <Romulus>

12:29 <sethy> &explosm

12:29 <Romulus>

12:29 <sethy> oh dear

12:30 <Tank_Master> thats just not right!

12:30 <sethy> its left

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12:39 <sethy> on the phone with jan, anyone got messages?

12:42 <sethy> she says she's ok

12:43 <sethy> jay jay jay

12:43 <sethy> xcamel

12:49 <sethy> CoderForLife

12:53 <MTughan> Hmm... Apparently, 20 minutes of computing adds up to one second of CPU time.

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12:54 <MTughan> 'lo BB

12:54 <BadBarbarian> Howdy

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12:57 <MTughan> 25 hours to the madness in #boinc-credit...

12:59 <Alphinux> lol

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13:18 <desti>

13:19 <Romulus> <> (at

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13:42 <MTughan> 'lo e

13:43 <efc> moo

13:46 <MTughan> How are you?

13:47 <efc> Ok..

14:02 <ELGono> what did she say sethy?

14:03 <sethy> she said she will try get on but i gave her my number so she can call

14:04 <sethy> and she will see if she can get on the forums

14:09 <CoderForLife> hmmm???

14:10 <CoderForLife> sethy!!

14:10 <CoderForLife> you talked to Jan??

14:10 <sethy> i did

14:10 <CoderForLife> wow - how is she?

14:16 <sethy> she's ok, still got a bad back

14:16 <sethy> the computers are dying

14:16 <Soul_keeper> it's football day

14:16 <sethy> lies

14:16 <Soul_keeper> let them die :)

14:16 <Romulus> dang wondered why db stats were dropping - was hoping to see what partitions are on the phone with the new?

14:18 <CoderForLife> thanks for checking in with her - I have been worried

14:18 <CoderForLife> does she know about Dogbytes?

14:19 <CoderForLife> bbl

14:19 * CoderForLife assumes she got an e-mail from Keith, on second thought

14:21 <sethy> yes she does

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15:06 <andresgr> server can't open database

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15:31 <xcamel> re-hi

15:32 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

15:32 <xcamel> I see sethy did talk to jan..

15:32 <sethy> that i did

15:32 <MTughan> Gah... Linux is nice, but it can be a pain in the ass at times.

15:32 <sethy> she's ok

15:32 <xcamel> great.. still the back?

15:33 <efc> My insanity continues..

15:33 <sethy> yea

15:33 <Romulus> <> (at

15:33 <xcamel> otherwise OK?

15:34 <sethy> yea

15:34 <xcamel> I take it she now knows how worried everyone was...

15:35 <sethy> yep, she forgot how to use irc so i gave her some help and she said she will try to egt round to mailing everyone back, but i gave her my number so she can call if needs anything

15:35 <xcamel> oh good..

15:35 <efc> Which one is Jan ?

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15:36 <xcamel> spit_the_dog

15:36 <efc> Ah ok, hope she's feeling better

15:36 <mweltin> hey folks are getting an error that they can not upload files.

15:36 <xcamel> we all do..

15:37 <mweltin> they are getting an error message that they can't find log_bob

15:37 <mweltin> the host name has changed

15:38 <mweltin> is that cached in the boinc client?

15:40 <MTughan> Seems it is... zombie's fixed.

15:41 <xcamel> you neutered your zombie?

15:42 <zombie67> ouch

15:44 <xcamel> :-)

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15:49 <mweltin> well some guy on the forum said he did that and it didn't fix the problem.

15:49 <Acili> My boinc client running seti@home has stopped at 6.9 procent. I did process and complete a work unit - but now its stopped. Any ideas?

15:49 <mweltin> I wonder if you have to reattache and then restart

15:50 <Romulus> i've bought from them or throat constricts

15:50 <mweltin> Acili, sorry I dont

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15:50 <xcamel> Acili: boinc working now?

15:51 <Acili> xcamel: yes

15:51 <xcamel> cool

15:51 <Acili> (it doesnt start automatically yet.. but its semiworking)

15:51 <Acili> now it has stopped though

15:51 <Acili> "/etc/init.d/boinc stop" fails

15:51 <Acili> I cant manually stop nor start the daemon

15:52 <Acili> I dont know if anything wrong with the servers?

15:54 <xcamel> you can check it via the website..

15:56 <xcamel> server status anyway..

15:56 <Acili> (yep, theyre running)

15:57 <Acili> I just restarted my seti project... its 0.0 % and its staying there

15:58 <xcamel> ps ax | grep boinc

15:58 <xcamel> ps ax | grep seti*

15:59 <Acili> ps ax | grep boinc:

15:59 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at

16:00 <Acili> ps ax | grep seti* :

16:00 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at

16:01 <xcamel> looks all good..

16:01 <xcamel> it just takes some time to show progress..

16:02 <Acili> it is like 5 min ago I restarted the project.....

16:02 <Acili> but in "Elapsed time" it says.. 0 hr 0 min 3 sec

16:02 <Acili> it seems like boinc is alive.. but its very very very slow

16:11 <mweltin> how do I convert <update_time>1200520229</update_time> to real time?

16:11 <mweltin> is that in epoch time?

16:14 <xcamel> are your prefs set to 'run always' ??

16:14 <Acili> yes

16:16 <xcamel> hmmm..

16:17 <Acili> im thinking of restarting.... but whats the point if boinc keeps halting, and I need to restart all the time

16:18 <mweltin> /usr/bin/env php ?  is that looking for an environment variable called php ?

16:19 <mweltin> its at the head of a lot of php scripts that fail in my ops dir?

16:19 <mweltin> I'm curious how to fix it?

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16:20 <xcamel> iirc, you're not going to see much action from boinc for the first 24 hours

16:20 <sethy> i just reincarnated the Arecibo message

16:20 <sethy> DTMF 0's and 1's

16:20 <sethy> so it needs a lttle tweaking

16:20 <sethy> audio

16:20 <sethy> not signal

16:21 <xcamel> brb

16:21 <sethy> rbr?

16:27 <xcamel> just brrrrrr!

16:27 <xcamel> 15F and 10-20 mph winds

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16:30 <mweltin> does anyone here run a stats site?

16:30 <mweltin> i'd like to see if you can import my tsp stats?

16:31 <mweltin> please

16:31 <mweltin> apparently its been three days since a stats site has picked up anything from tsp.

16:40 <MTughan> BS hasn't picked up anything for three days, but it may not have done a full update yet.

16:41 <mweltin> ok

16:41 <mweltin> turns out some people (including me) thought that killing the boinc manager also kills boinc

16:41 <mweltin> apparently that is not the case.

16:41 <mweltin> and I'm having some trouble with ops

16:42 <mweltin> the /usr/bin/env php is not working

16:42 <zombie67> boinc manager is just a front end to view and interact the boinc client

16:42 <mweltin> yeah I know that now.

16:43 <sethy> WHO WOULD Like my reincarnated arecibo message/

16:43 <sethy> mp3 or ogg

16:43 <mweltin> what is it?

16:43 <sethy> arecibo message

16:43 <mweltin> yes

16:43 <MTughan> Hmm... If BS does updates at the same time for each project, they should've been updated just over 2 hours ago.

16:43 <sethy> &dict Arecibo MEssage

16:43 <Romulus> sethy: No definition for "Arecibo MEssage" could be found.

16:43 <mweltin> I have no idea what that is.

16:44 <sethy> >;o

16:44 <sethy>

16:44 <Romulus> Title: Arecibo message - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

16:44 <mweltin> I just fixed the stats thing a little while ago.

16:44 <MTughan> Less than two hours ago?

16:45 <mweltin> yes

16:45 <MTughan> So it may take up to another 24 hours for it to be grabbed again.

16:46 <MTughan> In the mean time, I have another GA with 12h left in it...

16:49 <mweltin> arrrrrrrrrgggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

16:49 <mweltin> su and su - are not the same

16:49 <mweltin> that bit me in the butt

16:50 <mweltin> that is why the /usr/bin/env was not working right

16:50 <mweltin> the .bash_profile was never being read.

16:52 <mweltin> when I ran bin/start I was using the wrong environment.

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16:53 <sethy> oh dear lord

16:53 <mweltin> and of course I forget my origo passwed

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16:56 <sethy> ok...

16:57 <sethy> weird

16:57 <sethy> phone is bieng retarded

16:57 <sethy> its like a busy tone but not

16:57 <sethy> its a little lower pitched and the pause is shorter

16:57 <Romulus> ok - you missed part of the week

16:57 <mweltin> arecibo that was cool

16:57 <mweltin> I had heard about it but didn't konw its name.

17:06 <MTughan> Crud... Mac's done now, but the store closed 7 minutes ago.

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17:09 <xcamel> go figure, eh?

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17:10 <mweltin> sorry MTughan

17:11 <FreeLarry58> howdy all

17:11 <xcamel> 'lo Larry

17:11 <FreeLarry58> hows the new machines working jay

17:12 <xcamel> one is working very well..

17:12 <mweltin> hi FreeLarry

17:12 <xcamel> the other was sent back to be replaced..

17:12 * FreeLarry58 likes his quad - can have 2 long wu's running and still get several short ones in while they process

17:12 <zombie67> dang

17:12 <xcamel> no biggie - their customer service is great - very impressed.

17:13 <FreeLarry58> looks like around 1600+ rac for quad

17:13 <MTughan> Nice...

17:13 <FreeLarry58> which company you deal with jay

17:13 <xcamel> I am getting roughly 3750 credits/day atm.

17:13 <FreeLarry58> it is MTughan

17:13 <FreeLarry58> how many projects?

17:14 <FreeLarry58> on the one new machine?

17:15 <FreeLarry58>

17:15 <Romulus> <> (at

17:17 <FreeLarry58> never mind i see

17:17 <Romulus> <> (at

17:17 <xcamel>

17:17 <Romulus> <> (at

17:18 <xcamel> should show 'pete' at the top..

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17:24 <FreeLarry58> dang you still running all those?

17:27 <xcamel> about half are DOA

17:27 <xcamel> they just never drop off the list...

17:27 <FreeLarry58> ahh got a few on my list like that too

17:28 <FreeLarry58> i put mine and your quad links up earlier

17:29 * FreeLarry58 now understands a little more about all the slippage in standings

17:29 * FreeLarry58 refuses to point fingers at one project but is joining up also

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17:34 * xcamel sits here missing your point...

17:39 <FreeLarry58> riesel

17:39 <PriitM>

17:42 <FreeLarry58> humm just got a lhc unit also

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17:42 <MTughan> LHC!

17:42 <MTughan> Got one too...

17:44 <xcamel> woha..

17:44 <MTughan> And they're all gone? Cool.

17:44 <xcamel> damn..

17:44 <xcamel> missed it..

17:44 <MTughan> Looks like 14,000 released.

17:45 <MTughan> 13,978 in progress.

17:46 <xcamel> grrr..

17:46 <FreeLarry58> yah xcamel only one machine got one here

17:46 <MTughan> It was FL's comment that spurred me on.

17:46 <FreeLarry58> lol

17:46 <MTughan> Well, I got one!

17:47 <FreeLarry58> lol just the luck of the connections i guess

17:47 <MTughan> Wow, they're being returned fast... Down to 13,826.

17:47 * FreeLarry58 wonders if he should buy a lotto ticket tonight?

17:48 <MTughan> Mine hasn't even started yet...

17:48 <FreeLarry58> mine wont either for a few hours as other projects running

17:48 <MTughan> xcamel: Keep trying, there's one that just popped up, so they're probably still making them.

17:48 <FreeLarry58> well riesel on all machines here now

17:48 <MTughan> Yeah, that one's gone, but there might be more.

17:49 <FreeLarry58> they seem to go in spurts over at lhc

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17:50 <FreeLarry58> humm according to results page i got 7 wu's from them

17:50 <MTughan> O_O

17:51 <xcamel> nope

17:53 <FreeLarry58> scattered across 5 machines - 1 wu already back took a whole 2 seconds to run

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17:55 <xcamel> not-gonna-get-any

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17:56 <FreeLarry58> they may put more up later today or tomorrow jay - like i said luck of the connections

17:56 <FreeLarry58> i didn't do anything to get those units

17:58 <MTughan> Another one just popped up, so they're still being made.

17:58 <xcamel> go ahead... rub it in...

17:58 <MTughan> I'm saying you have a change.

17:58 <MTughan> chance*

17:59 <MTughan> There. Another attempt here failed.

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17:59 <MTughan> Who was that anyway?

17:59 <xcamel> dunno ... french

18:00 <MTughan> <_Danilo_> Netsplit Detected Between Servers <->

18:00 <MTughan> Earlier today.

18:00 <Romulus> will try to run a project by itself. It's run through them or throat constricts

18:00 <xcamel> they might have been testing a script

18:01 <MTughan> Whoa... 10 tasks just popped up!

18:01 <MTughan> 25...

18:01 <MTughan> Go for it!

18:01 <xcamel> gone

18:01 <MTughan> They're being made fast...

18:01 <MTughan> And going just as fast...

18:02 <xcamel> now the server is kicking me out

18:02 <MTughan> This is where you curse BOINC...

18:02 <MTughan> 34 tasks!

18:05 * FreeLarry58 goes to hide for starting lhc fight

18:05 <MTughan> 60! *cries*

18:05 <MTughan> Damn server won't let me have any!

18:05 * FreeLarry58 sees xcamel loading the catapults to launch at A.S.

18:05 <MTughan> Whoa... 135...

18:05 <MTughan> They're being churned out all right.

18:06 <Romulus> not sure, I don't see anything - but guess'ed its location and it will be down because of the connections

18:07 <xcamel> I got a handfull

18:08 <MTughan> Cool.

18:08 <xcamel> even the little HP got 2

18:08 <FreeLarry58> on 2 machines that aren't running much i allowed new work and suspended the other projects - they are dl'ing quickly

18:09 <FreeLarry58> at one per machine

18:09 <FreeLarry58> but they look to be the longer running wu's ;) credits

18:10 <xcamel> what I got were "twofers"

18:10 <MTughan> Damn! 5 minutes isn't enough between requests...

18:10 <FreeLarry58> nope more like 15

18:10 <MTughan> *cries some more*

18:13 <xcamel> I'll take what I got..

18:14 <xcamel> better than nothing..

18:16 <xcamel> people go nutty over LHC work

18:17 <FreeLarry58> true its so rare

18:17 <FreeLarry58> looks like i stick with 9 or 10 total

18:17 <MTughan> Envy here. I've got another 7 and a half minutes to wait to get more.

18:18 <MTughan> I only got one.

18:18 <FreeLarry58> and if you try earlier they reset you to 15 minute again

18:18 <MTughan> Yeah, sucks.

18:18 <MTughan> I found that out after waiting 2 minutes, then 3, then 5...

18:18 <FreeLarry58> so be patient

18:18 <MTughan> 10 minutes wasted.

18:19 <MTughan> They're still creating WUs though, so I might get some more.

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18:20 <MTughan> 5 minutes...

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18:20 <efc> &weather 30625

18:20 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 34F / 1C | Humidity: 32% | Pressure: 30.45in / 1031hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 20. Light and variable winds shifting to the northeast after midnight.; Martin Luther King Jr Day - Sunny. Highs in the upper 40s. East winds 5 to 10 mph. Wind chill readings around 10 during them morning.; Monday Night - Mostly (1 more message)

18:20 <MTughan> efc: Did you hear that LHC has work?

18:20 <efc> Whoa! Wait, I don't care!

18:20 <MTughan> Heh, okay.

18:21 <MTughan> &more efc

18:21 <Romulus> MTughan: cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.;

18:21 <xcamel> nutz

18:21 <efc> Unless maybe the algorithm is less of a pain in the *&& for me to mess with..

18:21 <MTughan> Crap... They're starting to bottom out it looks like.

18:22 <FreeLarry58> yuup getting all 5 instances for each wu issued out

18:22 <MTughan> 2 and a half minutes...

18:23 <xcamel> at least..

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18:26 <MTughan> :o 3 seconds before timer stopped, they bottomed out for the few seconds it took to update...

18:26 <sethy> >;o

18:27 <MTughan> WTF! Now the delay's up to 2 hours!

18:28 <xcamel> &^%$!!!#$!!

18:28 <Romulus> xcamel: Are you daft?

18:28 <MTughan> F*** you LHC...

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18:30 <MTughan> Grrr....

18:33 <sethy> &MTughan

18:33 <Romulus> sethy: Are you daft?

18:33 <sethy> yes please

18:33 <sethy> hey romulus, are you daft asking me if i'm daft?

18:33 <sethy> thats what i thought

18:34 <MTughan> o_O

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18:38 <FreeLarry58> romulus, are you daft asking me if i'm daft?

18:38 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: Are you daft?

18:38 <FreeLarry58> for sethy

18:39 <sethy> <3

18:39 * FreeLarry58 wonders if that a moon

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18:46 <MTughan> And LHC work is gone... after the second 15 minute helltime.

18:47 <xcamel> ayup..

18:47 <FreeLarry58> what did you expect ;)

18:47 <MTughan> To get more work.

18:47 <FreeLarry58> lol first half hour wu sent back in

18:48 <MTughan> More incentive to upgrade my CPU... LHC WU's gonna take an hour.

18:48 <FreeLarry58>

18:48 <Romulus> <> (at

18:49 <MTughan> Is LHC heavy on large ints?

18:49 <xcamel> all of mine were < 5 minutes

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18:51 <FreeLarry58> Results ready to send 0

18:51 <FreeLarry58> Results in progress 20,712

18:51 <FreeLarry58> not sure MTughan

18:51 <MTughan> About what?

18:52 <FreeLarry58> about initiger

18:56 * FreeLarry58 just realized the other machine has 2 slots open for more ddr2 ram and he has 1 gig laying around

18:57 <FreeLarry58> pov window machine in line for memory upgrade

19:03 <MTughan> Stupid LHC... More work according to the server status page, but none for me.

19:06 <xcamel> nothing here either..

19:07 <MTughan> Cool. Just broke 10K in ABC.

19:07 <wdsmia> lol new quad booted and crunching LHC :-)

19:08 <MTughan> *Envy*

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19:18 <xcamel> FOINC'd

19:19 <MTughan> Yay, got two more LHCs!

19:19 <xcamel> you suck

19:19 <MTughan> lol

19:19 <MTughan> Didn't you say that you got a handful before?

19:20 <xcamel> not on all hosts...

19:20 <xcamel> :-/

19:20 <MTughan> Hey, I've got one host running.

19:20 <Romulus> How do I need to get 15" of snow Thursday, 2 to 4 inches Saturday, then the question comes up what about SElinux - change it back to my computer is getting too good at pool..

19:20 <zombie67> they are still generating work, albiet slowly.

19:20 <MTughan> lol

19:21 <zombie67> all my machines have LHC work

19:21 <MTughan> Except the Macs.

19:21 <zombie67> well yeah

19:21 <MTughan> ;)

19:22 <FreeLarry58> humm appears boincsimap not online

19:24 <zombie67> does lhc still have a max/day limit?

19:24 <xcamel> yeah.. 2

19:25 <wdsmia> lol

19:25 <MTughan> I got 3.

19:25 <zombie67> no.  it was something like 40/machine

19:27 <xcamel> they never make enough to hit that...

19:27 <wdsmia> just to rub it in... looks like Ive downloaded 78 wu so far :-P

19:27 <Romulus> After this round is done, it'll be up and working again... :P

19:28 <zombie67> sure they do

19:28 <zombie67> they are still generating new work.  they just do it slowly.

19:28 <Tank_Master> who is?

19:28 <xcamel> what projects?

19:29 <Tank_Master> hey, lhc has work

19:29 <xcamel> my c2q pete is putting out > 3400 credits/day

19:30 <Tank_Master> thats all?

19:30 <Tank_Master> my core2duo is doing 2750

19:31 <xcamel> it's just getting started...

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19:33 <zombie67> TM:  lhc is what we are talking about

19:33 <xcamel> what speed is your c2d?

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19:34 <MTughan> LHC stopped generating work. At least for the time being.

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19:36 <Tank_Master> my core2duo is a 2.66 @ 3.1

19:36 <xcamel> dynamic OC or hard?

19:37 <Tank_Master> hard

19:38 <Tank_Master> whats the diff if you are always at 100% cpu?

19:38 <Tank_Master> its a B2 stepping core2duo, not the B3 or G0s that are out now

19:38 <xcamel> just wondering..

19:38 <Tank_Master> so it dosnet have as much o/s headroom

19:38 <Tank_Master> o/c

19:40 <xcamel> Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz [Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 11]

19:40 <xcamel> whatever that is..

19:40 <MTughan> That's the C2Q I was looking at.

19:40 <Tank_Master> its a nice CPU

19:41 <xcamel> going to try for 2.85G

19:41 <Tank_Master> with 64bit ABC, you should get around 4250 RAC

19:41 <xcamel> heatpipe/radiator system for cooling

19:42 <xcamel> it's 32 bit fc8

19:42 <Tank_Master> with it closcked at the default 2.4

19:42 <Tank_Master> 64bit gets you  alot more through put on some projects

19:42 <xcamel> abc rac is 274.41 for 6 days

19:43 <xcamel> ..and climbing

19:43 <Tank_Master> but how much total have you done?

19:43 <Tank_Master> in 6 days

19:44 <xcamel> 181 out or done, 5 projects running

19:44 <xcamel> so it's not too bad

19:44 <MTughan> In 6 days, my P4's done about 1500 credits total.

19:45 <MTughan> That's in ABC, RS, and TSP.

19:45 <zombie67> how many what have you done?

19:45 <MTughan> How many, I couldn't tell you right now.

19:46 <MTughan> Probably about 15 altogether.

19:46 <zombie67> how many what?

19:46 <Tank_Master> z!

19:47 <MTughan> Tasks.

19:47 <zombie67> tasks of what?

19:47 <MTughan> ABC, RS, and TSP.

19:47 <zombie67> not following.  what does the number of tasks mean?

19:47 <MTughan> And 15 isn't a hard number. That's an estimate.

19:48 <MTughan> "how many what have you done?" I thought that was two questions: "How many" and "what have you done".

19:48 <zombie67> let me start over....

19:49 <zombie67> TM asked "but how much total have you done?"

19:49 <zombie67> I am trying to understand his question.

19:49 <Tank_Master> I was refering to total points

19:49 <MTughan> Ah...

19:49 <Tank_Master> for the past 6 days

19:49 <MTughan> And that was to xcamel, so it just got misunderstood.

19:49 <Tank_Master> he had tolk be his RAC for the past 6 days

19:50 <Tank_Master> but as we all know, 6 days is not enough to RAC to truly reflect what you can do

19:50 <MTughan> Yeah.

19:50 <Tank_Master> hence my ?

19:50 <zombie67> you really need 30 days

19:50 <zombie67> two weeks will get you 90% there

19:51 <zombie67> lhc will eat into my production for my 64 bit machines

19:52 <Tank_Master> same ehre

19:52 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

19:52 <Tank_Master> &more

19:52 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more.  To do so, call this command with that person's nick.

19:52 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 40.4F / 4.7C | Humidity: 54% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014.1hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy in the evening then clearing. A slight chance of rain or snow showers in the evening. Colder. Lows in the 20s. Northeast wind 5 to 15 mph increasing to 10 to 20 mph overnight except east 20 to 30 mph with gusts to 40 mph (1 more message)

19:52 <Tank_Master> &more

19:52 <Romulus> Tank_Master: near The Gorge.; Martin Luther King Jr Day - Sunny. Windy. Highs 30 to 35. Northeast wind 15 to 25 mph except east 25 to 35 mph with gusts to 45 mph near The Gorge.; Monday Night - Clear. Lows 15 to 25. Northeast wind 15 to 20 mph except east 25 to 35 mph with gusts to 45 mph near The Gorge.; Special Weather Statement for Washington County in effect until 3:00 PM PST on January 21, 2008;

19:53 *** sethy is now known as seth_sleeping

19:53 <Tank_Master> gn seth_sleeping

19:53 <seth_sleeping> gn Tank_Master

19:53 <seth_sleeping> &nn

19:53 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

19:54 <MTughan> Is there a way to view CPU temps in Linux?

19:54 <seth_sleeping> ksysguard?

19:55 <MTughan> Doesn't look like it.

19:55 <seth_sleeping> well its the closest you will get to it

19:55 <seth_sleeping> cos i dont know :)

19:55 <seth_sleeping> look around

19:55 * seth_sleeping hits the hay

19:56 <Tank_Master> dont get hay splinters!

19:56 <seth_sleeping> i wont :)

19:57 <xcamel> Mike - you need lm_sensors, and gkrellm

19:57 <xcamel> that eill get you all you need..

19:57 <xcamel> er will even

20:11 <MTughan> xcamel: That's done. How do I get the temps now?

20:12 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86046

20:12 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 35.1F / 1.7C | Humidity: 31% | Pressure: 23.45in / 794.0hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows 7 to 15. Southwest winds 15 to 20 mph.; Martin Luther King Jr Day - Breezy. Partly cloudy in the morning then becoming mostly cloudy. Highs 34 to 40. Southwest winds 15 to 25 mph. Gusts up to 35 mph in the late (1 more message)

20:12 <BadBarbarian> &more

20:12 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: morning and afternoon.; Monday Night - Breezy. Mostly cloudy. Lows 15 to 23. Southwest winds 15 to 25 mph.;

20:16 <Soul_keeper> do 775 cpu's work in 771 server boards ?

20:16 <MTughan> Not that I know of. Probably better to stick to common sockets.

20:16 <MTughan> Actually... If they're the same dimensions, they won;t.

20:17 <MTughan> won't*

20:17 <MTughan> xcamel: Should we still hit the poll?

20:17 <Soul_keeper> i guess it all depends on the bios ...  because the sockets are the same last i remember reading

20:21 <xcamel> sure.. have at it... hammer the hell out of it...

20:21 <MTughan> LOL

20:21 <MTughan> Oops... Caps lock was on.

20:22 <MTughan> Okay, boosting my numbers again. Hit 1.4 million times already, gonna hit another 100,000 times for 1.5 million.

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20:24 <xcamel> using random ip #'s ?

20:24 <MTughan> No...

20:25 <xcamel> just wondering

20:29 <MTughan> Off to dinner...

20:30 <xcamel> enjoy..

20:33 <zombie67> did we break lhc?

20:37 <xcamel> must be..

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21:34 <MTughan> lol, we broke LHC? >:D

21:44 <zombie67> back up now

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21:50 <MTughan> 'lo e

21:50 <zombie67> lhc has stopped generating work

21:51 <efc> moo

21:51 <MTughan> They stopped generating work a while ago.

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21:59 <wdsmia> brb

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22:00 <MTughan> xcamel's away... No ops! :D

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22:03 <zombie67> I was hoping the down time was due to adding more work

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22:09 <KathrynM> Afternoon all :-)

22:09 <KathrynM> LHC had work.

22:10 <MTughan> We saw.

22:10 <zombie67> hi!

22:10 <KathrynM> I've been at work.

22:11 <KathrynM> zombie.  I got your message on irc the other day, but I don't think it let me respond to it.

22:12 <zombie67> yeah, you have to be a registered on the server to do PM

22:13 <KathrynM> Enlighten me...  I'm an IRC noob.  How does one do that?

22:13 <zombie67> PM me on a project, and I will send you an invite.  we have cori too

22:13 <KathrynM> Cool.

22:13 <zombie67> FYI:

22:13 <Romulus> Title: freenode: frequently-asked questions (at

22:14 <zombie67> it's kinda complicated though

22:14 <KathrynM> Yeah.  I read that and didn't get very far.  :-/

22:14 <KathrynM> I'm pretty much a dummy when it comes to this sort of stuff.

22:14 <zombie67> took me several hours of trial and error to get it to work

22:14 <MTughan> /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER

22:15 <MTughan> To identify, you use /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>

22:16 <KathrynM> REGISTER ut@u$t1n

22:16 <KathrynM> damn it

22:16 <KathrynM> forget it

22:16 <KathrynM> oooppps

22:16 <KathrynM> sorry

22:16 <zombie67> t5hen you have to do somwthing with "hide"\

22:16 <zombie67> yeah, PITA

22:16 <KathrynM> I need to eat lunch.  BB after work.

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22:19 <MTughan> Oh, I get what she did... Because even NickServ's HELP isn't exactly clear... She had to do /msg NickServ REGISTER <password>.

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22:20 <MTughan> IdleOne no loger...

22:20 <MTughan> longer*

22:21 <IdleOne> I am always IdleOne . a rose by any other name still pricks with it's thorns

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23:34 <efc> &math convert 0.0038 AU to miles

23:34 <Romulus> efc: Error: AU is not a valid unit.

23:34 <efc> &math convert 0.0038 astronomical units to miles

23:34 <Romulus> efc: Error: astronomical is not a valid unit.

23:35 <MTughan> &math convert 0.0038 "astronomical units" to miles

23:35 <Romulus> MTughan: 353232.067616

23:35 <efc> Pbbbt

23:35 <MTughan> Quotes are a wonder.

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