IRC logs of #boinc for Monday, 2008-01-21

00:01 <MTughan> lol...

00:01 <MTughan> &xkcd

00:01 <Romulus>

00:01 <MTughan> No CAD yet.

00:13 <MTughan> Gah... Still no CAD.

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00:33 <MTughan> 'lo seth

00:39 <MTughan> I'm off to bed...

00:40 <Tank_Master> gn MT

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01:18 <sethy> god damn isp dropouts

01:18 * sethy yawns

01:21 <sethy> should be canceling the account today

01:21 <zombie67> wha?

01:22 <sethy> isp fail to meet the demands of keeping me on the same ip range

01:23 <sethy> so instead of i'm on

01:23 <zombie67> snort!

01:23 <sethy> COKAINE?

01:23 <zombie67> your isp sucks, you say?

01:23 <sethy> my isp is meant to be aol

01:23 <zombie67> never heard that before

01:23 <Wabbit67> sounds like a personal problem to me

01:23 <zombie67> tell me about your cell provider next

01:23 <zombie67> ;)

01:24 <Wabbit67> oh Lord why do you make aol such a bad ISP?

01:24 <zombie67> oh lord, won't 'cha buy me a mercedes benz

01:24 <zombie67> all my friends drive in posches

01:24 <Tank_Master> aoHell!

01:24 <zombie67> I must make amends

01:25 <Tank_Master> Almost on line!

01:25 <zombie67> worked hard all my lifetime

01:25 <Romulus> well i like pthreads ...

01:25 <zombie67> with no help from my friends

01:25 <zombie67> oh lord, won't 'cha buy me a mercedes benz

01:26 <Wabbit67> hehehe

01:26 <Wabbit67> zombie you must pray to Lord Benedict XVI

01:26 <zombie67> I love that for breakfast!

01:26 <Wabbit67> Benedict XVI cereal?

01:27 <Wabbit67> Pope O's?

01:27 <Wabbit67> Pope Flakes

01:27 <Wabbit67> Pontiff Oatmeal

01:27 <Wabbit67> I could go on all night

01:27 <zombie67> Professor: ?Good news, everyone. Several years ago I tried to log onto AOL, and it just went through. Whee! We?re online.?  - Futurama

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01:28 <zombie67> In an episode of Futurama, the Earth was threatened by a giant meteor made out of 20th Century garbage. At one point it was noted that a large part of the meteor consisted of discarded AOL disks.

01:29 <Tank_Master> LOL

01:29 <Wabbit98> don't forget the part about them knowing what it would be like to be Dog God

01:29 <sethy> i didnt pick the service, my dad did

01:29 <sethy> now he see's the light

01:29 <sethy> aol = AbsenceofLight

01:30 <Tank_Master> ohwww... havent heard that one before

01:30 <Tank_Master> I need to add that to my list ;)

01:30 <Wabbit98> sethy how old are you?

01:30 <sethy> 16

01:30 <sethy> 17 in feb <3

01:30 <Wabbit98> how long have you BOINC?

01:30 <sethy> since 2005 i think

01:30 <sethy> or 2004

01:31 <Wabbit98> since it first started basicallu

01:31 <zombie67> Fry:  ?Well, thanks to the internet I?m now bored with sex.  Is there a place on the web that panders to my lust for violence??

01:31 <zombie67> Bender:  ?Is the space-pope reptilian??

01:31 <Wabbit98> and stop making me feel old dammit

01:31 <Wabbit98> get off my lawn you kid

01:31 * Wabbit98 waves around cane

01:31 <sethy> yea, i was araound with seti classic for half a year before they transfered

01:31 <zombie67> eggs benedict

01:31 <Tank_Master> I joined seti clasic on 01-01-01

01:31 <sethy> talk about binary

01:31 <Wabbit98> I can't remember when I joined seti classic

01:31 <Tank_Master> yep :)

01:31 <Wabbit98> 1999? maybe

01:32 <Wabbit98> who knows

01:32 <Tank_Master> someone at work introduced it to me

01:32 <Wabbit98> someone sexy?

01:32 <Tank_Master> no

01:32 <Wabbit98> oh

01:32 <Tank_Master> an older guy

01:32 <sethy> a sexy man in tights

01:32 <Tank_Master> not meny women at Intel

01:32 <Wabbit98> a sexy girl in tights

01:32 <sethy> pleasE?

01:32 <sethy> or kinky in corsets?

01:32 <Wabbit98> a sexy girl in that white thing people have to wear going into those chip fab areas

01:33 <Tank_Master> I wasnt int he fab to much

01:33 <sethy> restraint jacket?

01:33 <Tank_Master> more inthe sub fab

01:33 <Tank_Master> and they are called bunny suits

01:33 <Wabbit98> ??

01:33 <Wabbit98> bunny suits?

01:33 <zombie67> I was still in my old house, so that means I joined 1995-1999, somewhere then\

01:33 <Tank_Master> yes

01:33 <Romulus> gcc -static should do the 'slick install'

01:33 <Wabbit98> zombie joined slowly over a 4 year period

01:34 <sethy> This certifies that

01:34 <sethy> sethiroth66

01:34 <sethy> has participated in the SETI@home project since 8 March 2004, and has contributed 13,705 Cobblestones of computation (11.84 quadrillion floating-point operations) and 24 Classic workunits to SETI@home's search for extraterrestrial life.

01:34 <Wabbit98> ah the good old days of BOINC issues galore

01:34 <sethy> i dunno

01:34 <Wabbit98> I remember when starting up BOINC would crash my computer

01:34 <Tank_Master> lol

01:34 <sethy> so i was only like 13

01:34 <sethy> when i started

01:34 <Tank_Master> good to see some things havent changed...

01:35 <Wabbit98> sethy you might be younger than me but no reason to rub it in

01:35 * sethy rubs your face

01:35 <Wabbit98> last personal question, do you have a girlfriend?

01:35 <sethy> yup :)

01:35 <Wabbit98> bastard

01:35 <Tank_Master> is there anyone who isnt yunger than you?

01:35 <sethy> hey hey Wabbit98

01:35 <Wabbit98> zombie

01:35 <zombie67> ?

01:35 <sethy> no stehy

01:35 <Tank_Master> ok, one...

01:35 <Wabbit98> TM how old are you?

01:36 <sethy> i'm still... for 2 years running, the youngest guy that hangs out here

01:36 <zombie67> I ran seti classic on the PIII I gave TM

01:36 <Tank_Master> 25

01:36 <Wabbit98> of course I might be a Time Lord, but I can't remember clearly

01:36 <Wabbit98> TM we are the same age

01:36 <Tank_Master> lol

01:36 <Tank_Master> nice

01:36 <Wabbit98> I turn 26 in March

01:36 <Tank_Master> same state to

01:36 <Wabbit98> crazy

01:36 <Wabbit98> you know this means war

01:36 <Tank_Master> Apr 29th

01:37 <Wabbit98> March 29th

01:37 <Wabbit98> I am older

01:37 <sethy> TWINS

01:37 <Wabbit98> hahaha

01:37 <sethy> oh

01:37 <Tank_Master> soemone cant read

01:37 <Wabbit98> he is a younin

01:37 <Wabbit98> they can't read nowdays

01:37 <zombie67> wabbit98, why you call me?

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01:37 <Wabbit98> I called you?

01:37 <Wabbit98> when?

01:37 <zombie67> [22:35]  <Wabbit98> zombie

01:38 <Wabbit98> oh TM was asking who is older than me

01:38 <Wabbit98> I said you

01:38 <Wabbit98> because sethy is so young

01:38 <sethy> youngest

01:38 <sethy> here

01:38 <zombie67> oldest here

01:38 <Wabbit98> Time Lord here

01:38 <sethy> larry is 85

01:38 <zombie67> in dog years

01:38 <Wabbit98> those count

01:38 <Wabbit98> for bad luck

01:39 <zombie67> "Oh, my God.  It's Mega Maid.  She's gone from suck to blow." -- Colonel Sandurz _Spaceballs_

01:39 <sethy> QUESTION. How long do you think you will be running boinc for?

01:39 <zombie67> depends on the cost of energy

01:39 <Wabbit98> until I die

01:39 <Wabbit98> or they clone me and then forever

01:40 <Wabbit98> I am a Knight after all

01:40 * sethy fires arrow at Wabbit98

01:40 <sethy> FAIL

01:40 <Wabbit98> Ni

01:40 <Wabbit98> NI!

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01:40 <Wabbit98> I demand a shrubbery

01:40 <sethy> i demand a mweltin

01:41 <zombie67> "Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force." -- Vader to Admiral Motti terror.wav

01:41 <Tank_Master> I demand 1 MILLION CEDITS!

01:41 <mweltin> hey

01:41 <Wabbit98> that you cut down the largest tree in the forest with a .... HERRING!!!!!

01:41 <Tank_Master> speeking of whome...

01:41 <zombie67> back?

01:41 <Wabbit98> TM you own me 1 million credits

01:41 <Tank_Master> heh

01:41 <Wabbit98> after that job I did for you

01:41 <Wabbit98> you know

01:41 <Wabbit98> nudge nudge wink wink

01:41 <Tank_Master> your older

01:42 <Wabbit98> say no more

01:42 <Wabbit98> by a month

01:42 <Tank_Master> you owe me

01:42 <Wabbit98> you owe me younger sibling

01:42 <Tank_Master> exactly

01:42 <Wabbit98> sethy owes both of us for having a girlfriend

01:42 <Tank_Master> as the older sib, you should be watching out for me

01:42 <sethy> why have just 1,000,000. if you did watch the xmas special you would know 54,000,057 credits is 15,000,000

01:42 <Tank_Master> well, true

01:42 <Wabbit98> as older sibling I get to push you around

01:43 <Wabbit98> we are talking about the Doctor Who Christmas Special?

01:43 <Tank_Master> and you have to compensate otherwise ill sue

01:43 <Tank_Master> ;)

01:43 * sethy calls doug

01:43 <sethy> he's away anyway xD

01:44 <Wabbit98> no god called doug can help you now young one

01:44 <Wabbit98> unless you are Oregonian

01:44 <sethy> i am the master


01:44 * sethy charges lazers

01:44 <Wabbit98> I shall destory you

01:45 * Wabbit98 runs away

01:45 <sethy> you can not escape the master

01:45 * Tank_Master trips Wabbit98

01:45 <Tank_Master> but I AM the master...

01:45 <sethy> see, i even have a tank

01:45 <Wabbit98> I am the Doctor and I can end you with two words

01:45 <Wabbit98> no three words

01:45 <sethy> no you wont

01:45 <Tank_Master> but you wont

01:45 <Wabbit98> I think it is three

01:45 <Tank_Master> dont remember

01:45 <Wabbit98> math is not my best subject

01:46 <sethy> it was just 1

01:46 <Wabbit98> I should be called the Historian instead

01:46 <Wabbit98> no the Docotr told the Master : "I forgive you"

01:46 <sethy> 1 word

01:46 <sethy> doctor

01:46 <sethy> fag


01:46 <Wabbit98> the new doctor is a bit of a handsome lad

01:47 <sethy> he was in a series on bbc3 called casablanka

01:47 <sethy> think ecleston was a better doctor

01:47 <sethy> he had a great smile

01:47 <Wabbit98> bah

01:47 * Tank_Master has all of the origonal 19 seasons of Dr Who on his comp

01:47 <Wabbit98> I like David as the Doctor


01:47 <Wabbit98> or my episodes

01:47 <sethy> or Wabbit98 epilogues

01:48 <Tank_Master> may, dont remember if it was in the turrent or not

01:48 <Wabbit98> my crazyiness as I tried to change Doctor Who canon

01:48 <sethy> lost episodes are lost for a reason

01:48 <sethy> they we're burned in a fire at the bbc

01:48 <Wabbit98> because they revealed the truth about life

01:48 <Wabbit98> they had the question to the answer

01:48 <sethy> thats why they burned them

01:48 <Wabbit98> 42 is the answer

01:48 <sethy> 42

01:48 <Tank_Master> maybe someone made backups?

01:48 <sethy> OR 24

01:48 <Wabbit98> the lost episodes had the question

01:48 <Romulus> 2 is 11 pst, right?

01:49 <sethy> no

01:49 <Tank_Master> yes, rommie, you should know, you are the bit

01:49 <Tank_Master> bot*

01:49 <sethy> if its binary its 3

01:49 <sethy> if its talking Pacific Standard Time, then whats 2?

01:49 <Wabbit98> what happens if the answer though was given in base 5?

01:49 <zombie67> the best doctor was the one with the red FRO and the scarf.

01:49 <sethy> then its the end of the world

01:50 <sethy> tom baker?

01:50 <Wabbit98> zombie is obviously smoking something

01:50 <Tank_Master> and k-9

01:50 <zombie67> I wish

01:50 <Tank_Master> the doh with the 12' scarf rocked

01:50 <Tank_Master> doc*

01:50 <zombie67> trvth!

01:50 <sethy> !!

01:50 <sethy> I HAS TO GHET READIES

01:51 <sethy> FOR COLLEGES

01:51 <Wabbit98> bah

01:51 <Wabbit98> you have not graduated yet

01:51 <zombie67> I loved it when they had the recent episode with sarah and k9

01:51 <Wabbit98> when do you have to apply by?

01:51 <sethy> no i'm already in college

01:51 <sethy> if you read what i said the wrong way

01:51 <sethy> it reads i need to get ready for college

01:52 <sethy> i did a memorial thing for dogie

01:52 <sethy>

01:52 <Romulus> <> (at

01:53 <Wabbit98> so what is your major?

01:53 <Wabbit98> Azumanga Daioh rocks

01:53 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

01:53 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 34.7F / 1.5C | Humidity: 55% | Pressure: 30.07in / 1018.2hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the early then clearing. Colder. Lows in the 20s. East wind 15 to 25 mph except east 25 to 35 mph with gusts to 50 mph near the Columbia Gorge.; Martin Luther King Jr Day - Sunny. Windy. Highs 30 to 35. Northeast wind (1 more message)

01:53 <Tank_Master> &more

01:53 <sethy> >;o

01:53 <Romulus> Tank_Master: 15 to 25 mph except east 25 to 35 mph with gusts to 50 mph near the Columbia Gorge.; Monday Night - Clear. Lows 15 to 25. Northeast wind 15 to 20 mph except east 25 to 35 mph with gusts to 45 mph near The Gorge.; Special Weather Statement for Washington County in effect until 3:00 PM PST on January 21, 2008;

01:53 <Wabbit98> &weather 95624

01:53 <Romulus> Wabbit98: Temperature: 41.2F / 5.1C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 29.90in / 1012.4hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with isolated rain showers. Lows 33 to 39. South winds around 10 mph.; Martin Luther King Jr Day - Mostly cloudy with a chance of rain showers. Highs 44 to 52. South wind 10 to 15 mph.; Monday Night - Mostly cloudy with a chance (1 more message)

01:53 <sethy> i'm taking a national diploma in Software Development

01:54 <Wabbit98> a bachelors degree?

01:54 <sethy> no

01:54 <sethy> national diploma

01:54 <sethy> ^^

01:54 <sethy> i'm not in univerity

01:54 <sethy> nor america

01:54 <Romulus> I could probably run about two iterations here too.

01:54 <Wabbit98> oh

01:54 <Wabbit98> I was about to say

01:54 <Wabbit98> I have never heard of national whatever in America

01:55 <sethy> Diploma is like a degree

01:55 <Wabbit98> and this is good nationwide

01:55 <efc> &weather 30625

01:55 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 23F / -5C | Humidity: 63% | Pressure: 30.55in / 1034hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 20. Light and variable winds shifting to the northeast after midnight.; Martin Luther King Jr Day - Sunny. Highs in the upper 40s. East winds 5 to 10 mph. Wind chill readings around 10 during them morning.; Monday Night - Mostly (1 more message)

01:55 <sethy> here its Acheivement >> Certificate >> Diploma

01:55 <Wabbit98> about rthe size of Lichenstien

01:55 <sethy> i beleive it is

01:55 <sethy> if its national

01:56 <Wabbit98> &more

01:56 <Romulus> Wabbit98: of rain showers. Lows 33 to 39. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Special Weather Statement for Sacramento County in effect until 4:30 AM PST on January 21, 2008;

01:56 <sethy> &weather Leeds, England

01:56 <Romulus> sethy: Temperature: 44.0°F / 6.7°C | Humidity: 97% | Pressure: 29.81in / 1009.4hPa | Conditions: Rain | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h | Updated: 6:35 AM GMT; Chance of Rain. High:51 F. / 11 C.; Rain. Low:48 F. / 9 C.; Rain. High:50 F. / 10 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:39 F. / 4 C.; Overcast. High:46 F. / 8 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:42 F. / 6 C.;

01:56 <sethy> &more

01:56 <Romulus> sethy: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more.  To do so, call this command with that person's nick.

01:57 <sethy> >;o

01:57 <Wabbit98> silly England

01:57 <sethy> silly you

01:57 <sethy> just remember it was a british that invented the combustion engine

01:57 <Wabbit98> we used to be a colony and we don't drive on the left side of the road or play cricket

01:57 <sethy> so when you get on that plain, remember me

01:57 <sethy> i dont play cricket

01:57 <sethy> i'm not a sporty fag like that

01:58 <Wabbit98> also we are not part of the Commonwealth like Canada

01:58 <sethy> screw you guys then

01:58 <Wabbit98> yeah well

01:58 <Wabbit98> we won

01:58 <Wabbit98> so haha

01:58 * Tank_Master slaps sethy around a bit with a large trout

01:58 * sethy slaps Tank_Master around a bit with a large trout

01:59 <Tank_Master> socker is the best sport

01:59 <Wabbit98> I prefer fish slapping

01:59 <Wabbit98> as a sport

01:59 <Wabbit98> I prefer salmon over trout though

01:59 <zombie67> why always a large trout?  smaller are cheaper

02:00 <Tank_Master> more bang for the buck

02:00 <Wabbit98> yum

02:00 * efc munches on Havarti cheese

02:01 <Wabbit98> and some fava beans

02:02 <efc> Dunno why this stuff doesn't sell better

02:03 <zombie67> brb

02:03 <Tank_Master> k

02:03 <Wabbit98> quick steal sethys stuff

02:03 * Tank_Master slides over to sethy's chair

02:04 * Tank_Master swipes some dust off sethy's desk and runs

02:04 <sethy> i saw that

02:04 <Tank_Master> lol

02:04 * sethy fires lazers at Tank_Master

02:05 * Wabbit98 talsk to sethys girl and convinces her to join him instead

02:05 * Tank_Master puts up a mirror and redirects the lazer back to sethy

02:05 <Romulus> gcc -static should do the same error message "OMGOMG HAI DON"

02:05 <sethy> did i do that?

02:05 <sethy> i remember going some random time OMGOMGHAIDON

02:05 <sethy> anyway for a start

02:06 <sethy> lazer penetrates mirror

02:06 <sethy> and girlfriend is having family trouble so i highly doubt it :)

02:06 <Tank_Master> not this one

02:06 <sethy> SHUT

02:06 <sethy> UP

02:06 <sethy> YOU

02:06 <sethy> SUY

02:06 <zombie67> back

02:06 <Tank_Master> wb

02:06 <Wabbit98> front

02:06 <sethy> lol served

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02:10 * efc got some more cheese

02:10 <efc> this is about a quarter per cracker

02:14 <sethy> gotta get the train, bai gais

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02:14 <seth_afk> be back in 11 hours

02:14 <infinisoft> yay

02:15 <infinisoft> Finished more PG related stats stuff.

02:18 <Wabbit98> night all

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02:19 <Tank_Master> congrats infinisoft

02:21 <infinisoft> <- user links point to page listing rankings for each subproject of primegrid

02:21 <Romulus> Title: BOINC Stuff - PrimeGrid Top Users (at

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02:23 <zombie67> heh

02:23 <zombie67> misfit is making the rounds

02:24 <zombie67> posting on all the recruitment threads at all the projects

02:24 <Tank_Master> gaa

02:24 <Tank_Master> recrutement for that?

02:24 <Tank_Master> what*

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02:31 <zombie67> for boincsynergy

02:31 <zombie67> he does this about monthly

02:31 <zombie67> harmless

02:32 <Tank_Master> ahh

02:32 <Tank_Master> yeah

02:32 <Tank_Master> we do that to from time to time

02:32 <zombie67> yep

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04:17 <mweltin> anyone still here?

04:23 <andresgr> i'm already here ;)

04:28 <quail> evening fellow geeks, how are we all?

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04:48 <ELGono> yo quail

04:48 <ELGono> i'm fine

04:48 <ELGono> was a bit shocked yesterday.... you heard about dennis aka dogbytes?

04:56 <quail> nah I not hear about him

05:07 <quail> ELGono: why what happen to him?

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05:07 <PriitM> quail, topic

05:08 <Kathryn> Hi Markus

05:08 <Romulus> So Rookie_69: How's life out east?

05:09 <quail> oh he passed away a month ago :-(

05:10 <mweltin> hi Kathryn

05:10 <mweltin> how are you ?

05:10 <Kathryn> Not bad.  And you?

05:10 <mweltin> is this the FFE kathryn

05:10 <mweltin> could be better but not bad at all

05:10 <mweltin> got a nice dive in today.

05:10 <Kathryn> My nick on BOINC is KSMarksPsych

05:11 <mweltin> ok

05:11 <mweltin> we got to see a sea turtle in a place where we thought they were all "fished" out.

05:12 <Kathryn> Oh cool.

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05:13 <mweltin> yes it always puts a smile on my face when i see one.

05:14 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

05:14 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 11.3F / -11.5C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 30.67in / 1038.5hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 30s. South winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear in the evening...then partly cloudy with a chance of snow showers after midnight. Lows in the mid 20s. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 40 (1 more message)

05:14 <CoderForLife> &more

05:14 <Romulus> CoderForLife: percent.; Tuesday - Cloudy with snow showers likely. A chance of rain showers in the afternoon. Snow accumulation an inch or less. Highs in the mid 30s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of precipitation 70 percent.;

05:14 <Kathryn> I've been doing my best to kill two plants all in the name of science.  I want to know how they've survived without water for the last 2.5 weeks.

05:14 <Kathryn> To top it off, one is under a brown paper bag.

05:14 <quail> CoderForLife: hey Don, how are you champ?

05:14 <mweltin> what kind of plants are they?

05:14 <CoderForLife> just woke up when the alarm went off

05:15 <Kathryn> I have no clue.  Some little flower things.

05:15 <Kathryn> One of my classes is doing a project on what plants need to live.

05:15 <mweltin> LOL Kathryn nice description.

05:15 <Romulus> what did she say sethy?

05:15 <Kathryn> Hey, I was trained as a developmental psychologist, not a plant biologist :-)

05:15 <quail> CoderForLife: a robber?

05:15 <mweltin> well like most organisms there is that little R* value.

05:16 <ELGono> moo

05:16 <CoderForLife> It robbed  me of more sleep.

05:16 <mweltin> which is hte min level of a resource an organism need to live.

05:16 <Kathryn> Obviously these things don't need a heck of a lot of water.

05:16 <quail> :-(

05:16 <CoderForLife> hello ELGono mweltin quail Kathryn

05:16 <Kathryn> Hi :-)

05:17 <ELGono> Y0 D0N

05:17 <CoderForLife> &seen Spit_theDog

05:17 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Spit_theDog was last seen in #boinc 35 weeks, 4 days, 23 hours, 48 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <Spit_theDog> Bye for now all :)

05:17 <mweltin> no, some plants can long time without water, and some even get water out of the air, while other store it,

05:17 <ELGono> sethy spoke with her yesterday

05:17 <mweltin> plants are awesome that way.

05:17 <Kathryn> :-)

05:17 <CoderForLife> yes, I was wondering if she made it back

05:18 <Kathryn> The one under the bag actually looks better than the one that isn't under the bag.

05:18 <mweltin> my first degree was in botany

05:18 <Kathryn> Surprised me and my kids.

05:18 <ELGono> yeah that would be great

05:18 <Kathryn> I have a knack for killing plants.  These must be some hardy little creatures.

05:18 <mweltin> I studied the evolutionary history of mosses.

05:18 <CoderForLife> my wife gives me the first degree all the time

05:18 <Kathryn> lol

05:18 <mweltin> as long as its not the third

05:19 <mweltin> coudl be a shade loving plant

05:19 <CoderForLife> yeah that too

05:19 <Kathryn> Could be.  I didn't think of that.

05:19 <mweltin> like violets, or new gunie impatients

05:19 <CoderForLife> I'll brb - breakfast

05:19 <Kathryn> Their little project is over now, so all is left for us is to write up the poster.

05:19 <ELGono> laterz don

05:19 <Kathryn> Later

05:19 <ELGono> &weather meiningen,germany

05:20 <Romulus> ELGono: Temperature: 46°F / 8°C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 18mph / 29km/h | Updated: 11:00 AM CET; Chance of Rain. High:44 F. / 7 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:39 F. / 4 C.; Chance of Rain. High:41 F. / 5 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:30 F. / -1 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:33 F. / 1 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:28 F. / -2 (1 more message)

05:20 <CoderForLife> brb

05:20 <mweltin> what age group, I read you profile once but forgot

05:20 <Kathryn> These are 1st and 2nd grade ESL students.

05:20 <mweltin> sweet!

05:20 <Kathryn> My youngest are 5 year olds and my oldest 6th graders.

05:21 <Kathryn> Yeah.  They're a good class.  All bright kids.  A lot of fun to talk to.

05:21 <ELGono> how many in between? hehe

05:21 <mweltin> que?

05:21 <mweltin> you teach 1st and 2nd but have a 6th grader?

05:21 <mweltin> something didn't click there for me.

05:21 <ELGono> ahh i though you were talking bout your kids Kathryn

05:21 <Kathryn> The school has kids ranging in age from 4 years to 6th grade.

05:21 <Kathryn> OH GOD NO!

05:21 <Kathryn> LOL

05:21 <Kathryn> No kids for me.

05:21 <ELGono> LoL

05:21 <mweltin> I wasn't one of the smart kids in school.

05:22 <ELGono> my mother is teacher too

05:22 <quail> &weather ypad

05:22 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 63°F / 17°C | Humidity: 59% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 21mph / 33km/h | Updated: 8:30 PM CST; Clear. High:71 F. / 22 C.; Clear. Low:53 F. / 12 C.; Clear. High:77 F. / 25 C.; Clear. Low:60 F. / 16 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:84 F. / 29 C.; Overcast. Low:66 F. / 19 C.;

05:22 <ELGono> and she only has 14 days to work left ;)

05:22 <ELGono> she counting these days since 2 years i think

05:22 <mweltin> my dad was a teacher, but of crazy chemistry.

05:22 <Kathryn> Heh.  My mom did the same thing.

05:22 <Romulus> I didn't get any sleep at all?

05:24 <mweltin> we tried a science experiment diving.  We took bottles down with us to 100' filled them with air, but them in a bag.

05:24 <mweltin> the bag had a long string on it, and we wanted the bottles to explode.

05:25 <mweltin> but turns out that plasitic is realy strong, and it didn't work out.

05:25 <mweltin> tomorrow we are going to try to peal an egg under water.

05:25 <mweltin> roomer has it, you can peal the shell off an egg and not disturbe the membrane.

05:26 <Kathryn> Oh my...  that sounds interesting

05:26 <mweltin> you don't have to go to deep either.

05:26 <mweltin> you make your own fun on an island this size.

05:26 <CoderForLife> b w/b

05:26 <Kathryn> :)

05:28 <ELGono> so you're diving with gas bottles?

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05:29 <mweltin> well I perfer a aluminum tank myself.

05:30 <mweltin> I have this thing about not dying, air really helps that progress.

05:30 <ELGono> can imagine that

05:30 <ELGono> really would like to dive one day

05:31 <mweltin> its fun, lots of fun, you can blow "smoke rings" underwater.

05:31 <ELGono> hehe

05:31 <mweltin> it only takes a week of class and four dives to get an open water cert.

05:31 <ELGono> wow

05:32 <ELGono> i was always fascinated about deep-sea

05:32 <mweltin> it doesnt seem like enough to me now.

05:32 <mweltin> I have never gone too deep

05:32 <mweltin> my deepest dive was 168 feet.

05:32 <mweltin> that was plenty deep for me.

05:33 <ELGono> dunno if it's true, but it's said there have been more men on the moon than deeper than 10.000m in the ocean

05:33 <mweltin> could be, very few people have gone a mile down.

05:34 <ELGono> guess there is still a lot to see

05:34 <ELGono> (if you got a light) hehe

05:34 <mweltin> not without a light.

05:34 <mweltin> LOL

05:34 <mweltin> you loose light quick

05:35 <mweltin> I'm lucky where I am, ther are more kinds of coral here than Hawaii

05:35 <ELGono> where is that?

05:35 <mweltin> one of my better dives I could hear whales sining for about 40min

05:35 <mweltin> American Samoa

05:36 <mweltin> 170 lon -14 lat

05:36 <Romulus> some boring night wasn't it

05:37 <Kathryn> The pictures I've seen of the island are wonderful.

05:37 <mweltin> yeah but they don't show you the trash.

05:37 <ELGono> wow in the middle of nowhere, right

05:38 <mweltin> I'm on tutuila

05:38 <mweltin> there is Anu'u which is wonderful, and a few other atols that make up AS.

05:39 <mweltin> People here don't recycle, and trash on the beach is always a problem.

05:39 <mweltin> and they wonder why tourists go to Western Samoa.

05:39 <Kathryn> :(

05:39 <mweltin> if you find yourself out this way, I suggest you go to Western Samoa.

05:39 <mweltin> very nice place.

05:40 <mweltin> American Samoa, is well the best of Samoa and the worst of the US.

05:40 <mweltin> 60 charges were brought against government offices for price fixing and just plane stealing money.

05:41 <Kathryn> wow.  just wow.

05:41 <mweltin> 36 convictions.

05:41 <mweltin> and there are only 60k people here.

05:41 <mweltin> I magine if that happend in a small US city.

05:41 <mweltin> it's like the population of burlington VT.

05:43 <Kathryn> Hey Markus...  congrats on the relatively smooth transition to the new server.  :-)

05:43 <mweltin> hahahaahahah

05:43 <mweltin> thank you

05:43 <mweltin> it would have been a little smoother if pov was here.

05:43 <Kathryn> Life's no fun without a few hiccups.

05:43 <Kathryn> LOL

05:43 <Kathryn> The nerve of him to go on holiday.

05:44 <mweltin> I spent several hours trying to get stats to work, before I realized that update_stats only does rac decay, and db_bump makes the stats files.

05:44 <ELGono> brb

05:44 <Kathryn> I'm completely clueless about the backend.  I think I like it that way.

05:45 <mweltin> zombie said the same thing.

05:45 <mweltin> funny, and I'm thinking of starting another project

05:45 <mweltin> why why why do I do this to myself.

05:45 <CoderForLife> well - I'm running a bit late this morning - time to get ready for w@#%

05:45 <CoderForLife> cya later

05:46 <Kathryn> Gutton for punishment?

05:46 <Romulus> Another 2 tasks started, 14 in practice

05:46 <mweltin> later

05:46 <Kathryn> cya

05:46 <mweltin> what is odd is that I'm lazy by nature.

05:46 <Kathryn> Probably the same reason I started trying to learn Perl over the weekend.  Something in our brains craves the madness.

05:46 <mweltin> all progarmer are.

05:47 <Kathryn> Well, I'm definitely not a programmer, but I am lazy.

05:47 <mweltin> perl is too slopy for me.

05:47 <mweltin> good for you.

05:47 <Kathryn> Well, I looked at python and ruby as well.

05:47 <Kathryn> Didn't get very far in what I wanted to do.

05:47 <Kathryn> Decided my warm bed was a much nicer place to be on a rainy weekend.

05:48 <mweltin> some people see it as a negative, but its the root of efficency

05:48 <mweltin> ruby is cool, but slow.

05:48 <mweltin> I haven't used it much but I like it, and I never even learned thing one about python.

05:49 <Kathryn> I'm thinking in theory what I want to do shouldn't be hard.  But the last programming I did was a 5 week class back in college too many years ago.

05:49 <Kathryn> And that was using QBasic (I think).

05:49 <mweltin> LOL

05:49 <mweltin> nice

05:49 <Kathryn> I enjoyed it though.

05:49 <mweltin> what are you trying to do?

05:49 <Kathryn> I have an xml dump of my blog.  I'm trying to figure out how many times a certain person has commented.

05:50 <Kathryn> I figure I can search for the string and see how many times it occurs.

05:50 <mweltin> perl is your friend for sure

05:50 <Kathryn> :)

05:50 <mweltin> pathalogical rubish lister

05:51 <Kathryn> huh?

05:51 <mweltin> perl acronym

05:51 <Kathryn> Oh

05:52 <mweltin> Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish

05:52 <mweltin> I forgot the eclectic

05:52 <mweltin> lister

05:52 <Kathryn> Got it.  I'm a bit slow after work.

05:52 <mweltin> the guy that wrote perl called it that once.

05:53 <mweltin> what time / day is it for you?

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05:53 <Kathryn> almost 8 pm

05:53 <ELGono> &coffee

05:53 <Romulus> Here's your quad expresso!! BANG! Need an ambulance in 10 minutes?

05:53 <mweltin> monday or sunday

05:53 <Kathryn> monday

05:54 <mweltin> wow

05:54 <mweltin> it's almost midnight

05:54 <ELGono> 11:55 am monday here

05:54 <PriitM> 12.54 monday..

05:55 <mweltin> you must be close then

05:55 <ELGono> looks like

05:56 <ELGono> ee ? estonia?

05:56 <PriitM> that's correct

05:56 <mweltin> I'm layz enough to write my own billing system as apposed to look for one on the web.

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05:57 <ELGono> writing your own software is always a good effort

06:00 <mweltin> mmmmmmmmm bad kungfu movies

06:01 <mweltin> 36 chambers of Sholin

06:02 <mweltin> my dog needs a bath

06:02 <Kathryn> I have grading to do.  And I have no desire to do it.

06:03 <ELGono> i have a mountain of dishes waiting for me

06:03 <mweltin> you can always parse some xml

06:03 <Kathryn> A page each from 12 students on what they did over the weekend.

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06:03 <ELGono> but i guess i do some soldering stuff before

06:03 <Kathryn> Heh.  Somehow the grading seems less painful.

06:04 <Kathryn> My eyes start glazing over when I start looking at regexp.

06:04 <ELGono> well yea, regex doesn't help you with grading hehe

06:04 <mweltin> well maybe you dont needed.

06:05 <mweltin> there are lost of xml parsers out there.

06:05 <Kathryn> Oooooooooo...  that gives me a place to look.

06:05 <Kathryn> hmmmmmmmmmm

06:05 <mweltin> the username you are looking for, is it in an attribute?

06:05 <Kathryn> ummmmmmmmmmmm

06:05 <Kathryn> hold on.

06:05 <mweltin> I'm not going anywhere

06:06 <Kathryn> :)

06:06 <mweltin> I'm already in bed, with my dog by my side and a bad kung fu movie on.

06:07 <mweltin> if you could by a decent beer on this island it would be almost perfect.

06:07 <Kathryn> Gotta love the dogs.

06:07 <Kathryn> Korean beer is horrible.  Good think I don't drink.

06:07 <mweltin> yeah

06:07 <mweltin> dogs are great.

06:07 <Kathryn> <wp:comment_author><![CDATA[Monique]]></wp:comment_author>

06:07 <ELGono> hehe i should sent over some from germany

06:08 <Kathryn> Now there's an idea.

06:08 <mweltin> Samoan beer is the same, and I'm just not going to pay $3 for a can of guniess.

06:08 <Romulus> how do I come from a rpm or deb or the other days?

06:29 <hawmps> 'lo

06:30 <Kathryn> hey

06:30 <hawmps> mornin

06:30 <Kathryn> or evenin'

06:30 <mweltin> hey

06:30 <Kathryn> yes................

06:30 <Kathryn> :)

06:31 <mweltin> parsed the file?

06:31 <Kathryn> not yet.

06:31 <Kathryn> been grading.

06:31 <Kathryn> almost done with that tho.

06:32 <mweltin> I'm always shocked by how much extra work teachers do.

06:32 <mweltin> when i was a kid I just thought it was 9-5 like everything else.

06:32 <Kathryn> It was easier when I only taught math and science.  Now that I have some writing classes, I have more work.

06:33 <mweltin> wow you do it all

06:33 <Kathryn> something like that.

06:33 <mweltin> you never cease to impress

06:34 <Kathryn> teaching math is a piece of cake.  most of the kids are far beyond where they are in our textbooks in their korean school.

06:34 <Kathryn> put the book in front of them and telll them to do it.

06:34 <Kathryn> works well until you get to money.

06:34 <Kathryn> Not too many Korean kids familiar with American money.

06:34 <mweltin> what do you mean?

06:35 <Kathryn> The math books we use are from the US.

06:35 <mweltin> ahhhh

06:35 <Kathryn> We use the Harcourt series for both math and Language.

06:37 <mweltin> the food must be wonderful there.  Food here sucks, thats why there is such a high instance of diabetes here.

06:37 <mweltin> sorry for the tangent

06:37 <Kathryn> np

06:37 <Kathryn> I love Korean food.

06:37 <Kathryn> I went back home and stuff tasted so bland.

06:37 <mweltin> mmmmmmmmm

06:37 <mweltin> they like it hot.

06:37 <Kathryn> some of it, yeah

06:38 <desti> Kathryn you are teaching in korea?

06:38 <mweltin> I live in portland and there are lots of good korean places, but you are right they tone it down for the US consumer.

06:38 <Kathryn> Yeah desti.

06:38 <Kathryn> The one Korean place in Cleveland went out of business.

06:38 <Romulus> that's what zombie67 told me i was telling everyone i was like he just knocking at your ddns which my router yesterday, but it may be like vista, it doesnt have a file upload issue?

06:39 <Kathryn> lol

06:55 <mweltin> my dog is dreaming

06:56 <mweltin> I love that

06:56 <Kathryn> awwwwwwwwwww

06:56 <Kathryn> :)

06:58 <Kathryn> gah...  I'm too tired to read about parsing xml in perl.  It's giving me a headache.

07:00 <mweltin> I wish I had an answer for you.

07:00 <mweltin> php does it more or less painlessly

07:00 <Kathryn> I just need a day to sit down and read.

07:00 <mweltin> expat is not bad if you know c

07:00 <Kathryn> Yeah right.  C.  :-)

07:00 <mweltin> good luck

07:01 <Kathryn> I'm not wedded to any one language.

07:01 <Kathryn> It's more of a little side project for me.

07:01 <Kathryn> I"m trying to keep my brain from rotting.

07:02 <mweltin> but your a teacher, that doesn't do it for you?

07:02 <mweltin> I smell a class project

07:02 <mweltin> xml parsing for fun and profit

07:02 <Kathryn> lol

07:03 <Kathryn> I might bug Rytis.  He's a perl wiz.

07:03 <mweltin> or if that is too much for them

07:03 <mweltin> just print out the xml file and have them count what you are looking for.

07:03 <mweltin> like a analog boinc project.

07:04 <Kathryn> Ah yes.  The lo-tech way.

07:04 <mweltin> you get 30 kids to do, the averge answer is prob correct.

07:06 <mweltin> and if you want ot make it a true boinc project, give them all incompletes and don't give them credit until next year.

07:06 <Kathryn> :D

07:07 <Kathryn> That made me laugh so hard, tears are rolling down my face.

07:09 <ELGono> lol

07:09 <ELGono> that reminds me of the ipv4 over students protokoll

07:09 <ELGono> each student had to carry his own ip pakets

07:10 <ELGono> it was quite a run just to get an IP from dhcp server

07:10 <Kathryn> lol

07:10 <ELGono> the queue of the router was about 10m long

07:12 <mweltin> ok 1:30am for me been a long day, but a good one. Night all

07:12 <Kathryn> Night.

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07:13 <ELGono> laterz

07:13 <ELGono> hmmm now it's official

07:13 <ELGono> lost 200gb

07:14 <ELGono> data

07:14 <ELGono> :/

07:14 <Kathryn> ouch

07:14 <ELGono> looks like the controller on hd went fubar

07:14 <ELGono> not one single file on disk had right checksum so far

07:15 <Kathryn> eek.  that's painful

07:15 <ELGono> well yea

07:16 <ELGono> on that disk was a mirror of an real good server

07:16 <ELGono> the good old stuff

07:16 <ELGono> wich is rare to get

07:16 <ELGono> damn it

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07:30 <desti> 0_o

07:30 <Kathryn> whoa

07:30 <Kathryn> where did everyone go?

07:30 <desti> netsplit

07:30 <Kathryn> huh?

07:30 * Kathryn is an irc dummy

07:31 <desti> the freenode network is a network with a lot of servers connected together

07:31 <desti> and now the network is splitted

07:31 <Kathryn> ah

07:32 <Kathryn> thanks

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07:56 <desti> welcome back :-)

07:56 <Romulus> WB, Boss

07:56 <Kathryn> :)

07:57 <wdsmia> mornin all

07:57 <Kathryn> evenin' even :-D

07:58 <wdsmia> &weather 50319

07:58 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 12F / -11C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 30.43in / 1030hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h ; Today - Cloudy. A slight chance of snow in the morning...then snow in the afternoon. New snow accumulation around 2 inches. High 15 to 20. Southeast wind 5 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 90 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy until early morning then becoming partly (1 more message)

07:59 <wdsmia> &more

07:59 <Romulus> wdsmia: cloudy. A chance of snow in the evening...then a slight chance of snow after midnight. Low 5 to 10 above. North wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 50 percent.; Tuesday - Partly sunny. High 10 to 15. West wind 10 to 15 mph. Wind chill readings 5 to 10 below.;

07:59 <Kathryn> brrrrrrrrrr

07:59 * Kathryn shivers

07:59 <Kathryn> I gotta say.  I certainly don't miss the lake effect snow.

08:00 <wdsmia> Im on the wrong side of the lakes for lake effect

08:05 <PriitM> at least you got snow... there has been snow for maybe 1-2 weeks this winter here... usually we got snow from ~20thnov to ~20th march

08:06 <desti> we had zero snow days here this winter 0_o

08:07 <Kathryn> Supposedly we're going to have snow tomorrow morning.  I'll believe it when I see it.

08:07 <Kathryn> I've seen snow once here in Korea.

08:07 <Romulus> she was hit about 1 block from where you work

08:07 <Kathryn> But I'm down in the south.  Seoul is another story.

08:10 <ELGono> moo wdsmia

08:10 <wdsmia> *lo Gono

08:14 <hawmps> 'lo Doug

08:14 <wdsmia> mornin Jay

08:17 <ELGono> moo jay.... the hd run mad

08:17 <quail> evening Jay, Doug and ELGono

08:17 <ELGono> fschk couldn't help

08:17 <ELGono> looks like it deliveres random bit, if you try to read a file

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08:29 <Kathryn> Night all.

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10:12 <hawmps> splits a plenty

10:21 <wdsmia> 10,000 pounds of banana's

10:23 <wdsmia> or was it 30,000

10:24 <hawmps> 30,000

10:25 <hawmps> Harry Chapin

10:25 <wdsmia> yep

10:25 <hawmps> Scranton, PA

10:25 <wdsmia>

10:25 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Harry Chapin sings BANANAS Live 1977 (at

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10:36 <hawmps> those were the days...

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10:39 <wdsmia> Mary Hopkin

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12:05 <Alphinux> I don't get it.

12:06 <Tank_Master> ?

12:26 <Tank_Master>

12:26 <Romulus> <> (at

12:27 <Tank_Master> a general forum for BOINC

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12:36 <Al2O3> @mac

12:36 <Al2O3> &mac

12:36 <Romulus> Al2O3: Are you daft?

12:37 <Al2O3> hi, I'm looking for some help to find the default settings for BOINC Manager on OS X.

12:38 <Al2O3> I have looked in the OS X defaults database, no obvious 'manager' or 'boinc' found using grep.

12:38 <Al2O3> does BOINC Manager use its own default file somewhere?

12:38 <Al2O3> like a dot file?

12:44 <hawmps> dont...

12:44 <Al2O3> hawmps: hello

12:44 <hawmps> &OSX

12:44 <Romulus> hawmps: "OSX" could be

12:44 <Al2O3> been there done it.

12:45 <Al2O3> have the manager

12:45 <hawmps> ok..

12:45 <Al2O3> installed and running for 2 months on 10 systems.

12:45 <Al2O3> I want to standardize the layout from one system to all 10, and the defaults will do that.

12:45 <Al2O3> (aside from the web settings for functionality)...  This is regards to how the BOINC Manager looks and feels on each client.

12:46 <Al2O3> once I find that file, or files for the local BOINC Manager client, it will take about 30 seconds to mirror them to the other clients (if that)

12:46 <Al2O3> any help, greatly appreciated.

12:46 <hawmps> hmmm..

12:47 <hawmps> that is MT's domain... and he should be back a bit later..

12:48 <hawmps> he's the real 'mac' guy..

12:55 <Al2O3> ok, I found them :)

12:57 <Al2O3> hawmps: just in case others care, or want to know, they are (yep, I should have looked harder) in the /Users/USER_NAME/Library/Preferences/BOINC\ Manager\ Preferences  location.

12:58 <Al2O3> :)  I was not looking hard enough.

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13:15 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

13:15 <Tank_Master> &more

13:15 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 36.6F / 2.6C | Humidity: 27% | Pressure: 30.25in / 1024.3hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Windy. Highs around 35. East wind 15 to 25 mph...except east wind 25 to 35 mph with gusts to 50 mph near The Gorge.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 15 to 25...warmest near The Gorge. Northeast wind 10 to 20 mph decreasing to 10 (1 more message)

13:15 <Romulus> Tank_Master: mph after midnight. Near The Gorge...east wind 25 to 35 mph with gusts to 50 mph.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Highs 35 to 40. Northeast wind 5 to 15 mph...except east wind 15 to 25 mph with gusts to 45 mph near The Gorge.; Special Weather Statement for Washington County in effect until 3:00 PM PST on January 21, 2008;

13:19 * quail goes for another sandwich

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13:33 <desti>

13:33 <Romulus> <> (at

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13:43 <Al2O3> &weather 80104

13:43 <Al2O3> &more

13:43 <Romulus> Al2O3: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more.  To do so, call this command with that person's nick.

13:43 <Romulus> Al2O3: Temperature: 11.1F / -11.6C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 30.50in / 1032.7hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Today - Cloudy and much colder. Occasional very light snow with accumulations up to 1 inch. Highs 10 to 15.; Tonight - Cloudy. Chance of snow in the evening...then a slight chance of snow after midnight. Lows zero to 5 below. Chance of snow 40 (1 more message)

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13:45 <Tank_Master> &weather boring

13:45 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: Could not find weather information.  (This may be a bug. If you think it is, please file a bug report at < acker/?func=add&group_id=58965&atid=489447>.)

13:45 <lksjdflksdfsd> Yay, it actually works..

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13:45 <Tank_Master> lol

13:45 <MTughan_> IRC@Work went down.

13:46 <Tank_Master> ouch

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13:46 <MTughan_> So I was scrambing around, looking for other free CGI:IRC servers.

13:47 <efc> IRS@Home

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13:55 <Tank_Master> boinc credit meatins starst in a few min on #boinc-credit

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14:22 <frost> hi

14:23 <yoyo[RKN]> hi

14:23 <yoyo[RKN]> ;)

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14:37 <wdsmia> reminds me of a pack of dogs chasing there own tails

14:38 <MTughan_> How come you aren't there?

14:38 <wdsmia> im there

14:39 <MTughan_> Sorry, didn't notice...

14:54 <quail> can I ask why has Ubuntu released a 6.06.2 release when dapper is to die soon

14:55 <quail> and by there announcement it seems to just deal with the server releases

14:55 <quail> mna Ubuntu waste there time on crap, I have never liked there server versions. Man if you want to run a server and have a good server distro use pure Debian

14:55 <quail> I have had Debian and Ubuntu running on the same server, and Ubuntu has never cut the chop, Ubuntu has always been very slow to boot with server install

14:55 <quail> And I have not just tested it on the one machine, I have tested Ubuntu on various machines here, and it has just been damn slow

14:55 <quail> Ubuntu is great for for desktop / laptops and that s it in my personnal appinion

14:55 <quail> end of rant

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15:03 <hawmps> 'lo Q

15:04 <Tank_Master> howdy hawmps

15:08 <hawmps> figures..

15:09 <hawmps> I was one of the first 250 to start with boinc, but my opinion isn't worth much.

15:11 <Tank_Master> lol

15:11 <Tank_Master> shyt happens

15:19 <wdsmia> Opinions they had plenty of... solutions were in short supply

15:29 <FreeLarry58> well quail would have to agree with you for ubantu use - but then most people are only going to see desktop/laptop

15:29 <FreeLarry58> so if game manufacturers wanted to get more games out they should sell to either ubantu or fedora type setups for typical user

15:30 <FreeLarry58> i have tried to figure out how to get oblivion running but when it comes to setting machine up for sharing of video/sound to actually run the game i get stumped

15:31 * FreeLarry58 getting stumped is larrys specialty it seems

15:31 <FreeLarry58> or is that stomped

15:32 <jasong> stumped

15:43 <quail> FreeLarry58: tre

15:43 <quail> true

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15:54 <Tank_Master> wb

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15:55 <PriitM> I agree with quail about ubuntu server version - really slow bootup + 7.10 some bug(line: /etc/ini.d/rc starting; or similar) which made logging on slightly annoying

15:55 <PriitM> as desktop it's great, I use it myself on desktop box.

15:55 <xcamel> one thing that can really slow it down is chron::makewhatis

16:04 <xcamel> bbl

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16:33 <mweltin> ok so this is way way way off topic but I'm going to ask anyway.

16:33 <mweltin> I'm doing some consulting and need a system for billing and keeping track of my time on projects.

16:33 <mweltin> sorry of the off topic post

16:33 <MTughan> np

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16:38 <efc> Excel.. ok that will be $500 :)

16:40 <quail> PriitM_: thanks

16:40 <quail> I glad someone else seen the same probs as I have

16:41 <mweltin> excel  lol

16:42 <efc> I guess maybe Quicken has some business edition, I dunno

16:43 <efc> I found where a guy has done the entire set of income tax forms in Excel. Works great.

16:43 <MTughan> Wow.

16:43 <efc> its like 30 tabs, one for each form

16:43 <efc> looks exactly like the forms too, you could almost mail them in

16:44 <mweltin> I found turbo tax worth the effort

16:46 <MTughan> All right, gonna brave the rush-hour traffic and go get my laptop. Usually about a half hour drive each way, so we'll see how it goes.

16:48 <mweltin> good luck

16:48 <Tank_Master> hf!

16:50 <mweltin> &weather 96799

16:50 <Romulus> mweltin: Temperature: 74F / 23C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 20mph / 32km/h ; Today - Occasional showers with isolated thunderstorms. Highs in the mid 80s. Variable winds 10 mph...with higher gusts in showers.; Tonight and Thursday - Scattered showers with isolated thunderstorms. Lows near 80. High near 90. Variable winds 10 (1 more message)

16:53 <Tank_Master> &frakinmore mweltin

16:53 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Are you daft?

16:53 <Tank_Master> no, but mweltin is

16:53 <Tank_Master> ;)

16:53 <mweltin> que

16:53 <Tank_Master> more?

16:54 <Tank_Master> you have a message wating for ya

17:04 * CoderForLife taps the microphone

17:04 <CoderForLife> is this thing on?

17:04 <CoderForLife> can you hear me now?

17:05 <CoderForLife> testing... 1.. 2.. 3.. t-yesting....

17:05 <CoderForLife> &ping

17:05 <Romulus> pong

17:05 <CoderForLife> ah

17:05 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

17:05 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 32.1F / 0.1C | Humidity: 41% | Pressure: 30.47in / 1031.7hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Clear this evening...then partly cloudy with a chance of snow showers after midnight. Lows in the lower 20s. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 50 percent.; Tuesday - Snow showers likely. Snow accumulation around an inch. Highs in (1 more message)

17:05 <CoderForLife> &more

17:05 <Romulus> CoderForLife: the mid 30s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of snow 70 percent.; Tuesday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows 15 to 20. West winds around 10 mph with gusts up to 25 mph.;

17:06 <CoderForLife> omg - a whole inch of snow - all at one time

17:08 * CoderForLife fears that, given local driver skills, the commute to work will take hours

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17:11 <mweltin> your a coder CoderForLife, just stay at home and email your work in.

17:11 <wdsmia> snow plows doing there normal good job....taking it off the streets and dumping it in my driveway

17:12 <xcamel> re-hi

17:12 <CoderForLife> is there some problem wdsmia?  isn't that the usual behavior?

17:13 <CoderForLife> hello Jay

17:13 <CoderForLife> and Doug and Markus (is that right?)

17:13 <xcamel> 'lo Don

17:14 <CoderForLife> I'm about done setting up my main server on F8

17:14 <xcamel> and a nice balmy 15F it is..

17:14 <CoderForLife> need to bring up openldap this evening

17:14 <CoderForLife> and test out a few things I'm developing

17:14 <Romulus> got some more S@H work.

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17:15 <CoderForLife> then I can switch the traffic from my backup (FC7) machine over to the newly configged F8 box

17:15 <CoderForLife> got ossec running and the greylist milter last night

17:16 <CoderForLife> got samba running quietly today

17:16 <CoderForLife> had to stop and get the greylisting running on the backup as I was getting hammered with spam

17:17 <efc> &weather 30625

17:17 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 43F / 6C | Humidity: 21% | Pressure: 30.54in / 1034hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows around 30. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tuesday - Mostly cloudy with a chance of rain in the afternoon. Highs in the upper 40s. Light and variable winds shifting to the southwest in the afternoon. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Tuesday (1 more message)

17:18 <efc> it feels colder than that

17:18 <CoderForLife> hello efc

17:18 <CoderForLife> we're at 31 currently

17:19 <efc> my toes are numb

17:20 <xcamel> it was -2 this morning, and I apparently "overdid" it yesterday out in the cold...

17:20 <CoderForLife> ut oh

17:21 <xcamel> bad shoulder hurting all day..

17:21 <CoderForLife> ack

17:21 <xcamel> I should be used to it by now..

17:21 <CoderForLife> The grim reaper is chasing after you all the time

17:22 <xcamel> hush.

17:22 <CoderForLife> but you are not alone

17:22 <xcamel> so when does the 'credit debate' resume?

17:23 <CoderForLife> I guess I'm not a credit debtor

17:23 <CoderForLife> er debator

17:23 <CoderForLife> I guess I associate "credit" and "debt"

17:30 * CoderForLife hushes as requested

17:30 <CoderForLife> bbl

17:31 <quail> CoderForLife: hey bolke, how are you Don?

17:36 <xcamel> yummy home made chinee dinner..

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17:40 <xcamel> after a truly mexican lunch.. :-)

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17:46 <xcamel>

17:46 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2008 January 21 - Mercurys Horizon from MESSENGER (at

17:46 <xcamel> nice shot..

18:02 <wdsmia> &weather 50319

18:02 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 19F / -7C | Humidity: 85% | Pressure: 30.16in / 1021hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h ; Tonight - Snow in the evening...then a chance of light snow after midnight. A slight chance of light snow late in the night. Snow accumulation around 1 inch. Low 5 to 10 above. North wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Tuesday - Partly (1 more message)

18:02 <wdsmia> &more

18:02 <Romulus> wdsmia: sunny. High around 15. West wind 10 to 15 mph.; Tuesday Night - Partly cloudy until early morning then becoming mostly cloudy. A 20 percent chance of snow after midnight. Low zero to 5 above. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph.;

18:03 <xcamel> you beat me by 6 degrees..

18:04 <wdsmia> about time

18:06 <xcamel> uh-huh

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18:08 <wdsmia> If this keeps up February is going nightmare

18:08 * sethy stretches

18:08 <sethy> >;o

18:08 <wdsmia> err to be

18:08 <sethy> i know, its my birthday on the 6th :P

18:10 <MTughan> xcamel: Next session in #boinc-credit starts at 8PM EST. Just under two hours.

18:12 * efc eats more Havarti

18:13 <efc> Power and water went on on my dad

18:13 <MTughan> Ooh, Havarti cheese is good...

18:13 <MTughan> Oh, got my Mac back too.

18:13 <efc> frozen pressure switch and pipe, and couldn't fix it w/o the power

18:14 <efc> I need to get one of you nor'easters to hook me up with a Havarti supplier

18:14 <MTughan> Obviously you aren't at your dad's if your on IRC then...

18:14 <efc> yeah, he's in north GA

18:14 <efc> Where I wish I was

18:15 <sethy> monday rush hour getting home was hectic in leeds

18:15 <sethy> 75% of trains we're cancelled due to flooding

18:17 <sethy> as for my train, it did some into the station, and we waited 14 minutes past the usual departure time for a team to come to drive it

18:17 <sethy> s/some/come

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18:19 <Soul_keeper>     lol

18:19 <Romulus> Title: Sparkle GeForce 8800GT Cool-Pipe3 512MB review (at

18:19 <Soul_keeper> cooking eggs on a video card

18:19 <MTughan> lol

18:20 <efc> they shoulda put a 100 watt lightbulb on a thermostat with the pump

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18:40 <MTughan> Crud. Well, I have a late yoyo WU.

18:40 <MTughan> 87.5% done, due on the 17th.

18:41 <xcamel> btw.. the webpoll is dead now - thanks everyone for trying..

18:42 <MTughan> K.

18:44 <xcamel> 75 machines - 24/7 against "us"

18:45 <sethy> us or US?

18:45 <Soul_keeper> you own all them machines ?

18:45 <xcamel> "us" as in we

18:45 <sethy> oic

18:45 <xcamel> no - a bunch of mush-buckets for ron paul at a local college

18:46 <MTughan> We were outpolled?

18:46 <sethy> under you're account?

18:46 <xcamel> by a factor of 10

18:46 <wdsmia> lol

18:46 <MTughan> Ow...

18:47 <sethy> i was gonna get my highschool to do boinc, i dont know what happened top it

18:47 <sethy> to*

18:47 <wdsmia> so what was the total 6 Billion?

18:48 <sethy> 6,000,000,000 ?

18:48 <sethy> or am i lacking 0's

18:51 <sethy> OH YESH

18:51 <sethy> networking suite tomorrow

18:52 <sethy> i'll set up a web server xD

18:52 <sethy> cain and some other utilities

18:53 <sethy> of which i get my new timetable tomorrow for semester 2

18:53 <sethy> hopefully its not going to be as gay as this semester

18:55 <sethy> i'm actually worried about pov, remember when he left there was that riot, and he said he was going to be a week. well its been a week and 2 days almost

18:56 <wdsmia> thought he said he would be back the 23rd

18:56 <sethy> he told me just a week

18:56 <sethy> if he's not back by 25th, i'm complaining

18:57 <sethy> y'see i'm going up north this weekend

18:57 <sethy> near keith

18:58 * wdsmia may be going back to Spain in sept.

18:58 <sethy> tequila for all :P

18:59 <sethy> i dont see why september is called 'sept'ember its hardly related to 7

18:59 <sethy> 9th month, 9 letters..

19:00 <sethy> should rename it nonatember

19:02 <wdsmia> I hope they set the reunion for mid september Birthday where I was born would be interesting

19:03 <sethy>

19:03 <Romulus> <> (at

19:03 <sethy> coast of france?

19:06 <MTughan> I remember Pov saying the 23rd too.

19:07 <wdsmia> france?

19:07 <sethy> dunno

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19:29 <xcamel> did get a good laugh last night after installing the "doomsday engine" and playing hexen in linux

19:29 <xcamel> that was a kick...

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19:30 <MTughan> Oh great... My sister's getting a kick out of Photo Booth and the effects in it.

19:31 <FauxFaux> Is she hawt?

19:31 <MTughan> Depends on your tastes.

19:31 <MTughan> I'm still not posting a pic.

19:32 <FauxFaux> Is she under twelve?

19:32 <FauxFaux> *runs*

19:32 <MTughan> Nope.

19:33 * xcamel stays out of this one...

19:34 <MTughan> Heh, good choice.

19:34 <xcamel> 8:00 pm eastern, eh?

19:34 <MTughan> Yep.

19:34 <xcamel> dunno if it'll be worth weighing in...

19:35 <MTughan> &countdown

19:35 <Romulus> 24.46 minutes

19:35 <MTughan> There's the time to the session.

19:36 <MTughan> (I'll remove the alias afterwards.

19:36 <wdsmia> @Jay Its guaranteed to turn that chinee dinner..To indigestion

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19:41 <MTughan> 'lo BB

19:42 <BadBarbarian> Howdy

19:42 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86046

19:42 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 32.7F / 0.4C | Humidity: 42% | Pressure: 23.54in / 797.1hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 12.3mph / 19.8km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 14 to 22. Light winds.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Highs 36 to 42. Light winds.; Tuesday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows 10 to 18. Light winds.;

19:44 <MTughan> Tank_Master: You're wanted in #boinc-credit.

19:55 * sethy looks at MTughan

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20:19 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86046

20:19 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 31.3F / -0.4C | Humidity: 45% | Pressure: 23.54in / 797.1hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 5.4mph / 8.7km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 14 to 22. Light winds.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Highs 36 to 42. Light winds.; Tuesday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows 10 to 18. Light winds.;

20:37 <wdsmia> @Jay regretting the eggrolls yet?

20:39 <efc> I'm off into the cold, give my regards to broadway

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20:39 <Tank_Master> hf efc!

21:02 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

21:02 <Tank_Master> &more

21:02 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 34.3F / 1.3C | Humidity: 29% | Pressure: 30.31in / 1026.3hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 15 to 25...warmest near The Gorge. Northeast wind 10 to 20 mph...except east wind 20 to 35 mph with gusts to 50 mph near The Gorge.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Highs 35 to 40. Northeast wind 5 to 15 mph...except east wind (1 more message)

21:02 <Romulus> Tank_Master: 20 to 25 mph with gusts to 45 mph near The Gorge.; Tuesday Night - Mostly clear. Lows 20 to 25. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph...except east wind 15 to 25 mph near The Gorge.;

21:03 <wdsmia> &weather 50319

21:03 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 19F / -7C | Humidity: 85% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Snow in the evening...then a chance of light snow after midnight. A slight chance of light snow in the morning. New snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches. Total snow accumulation 2 to 4 inches. Low 5 to 10 above. Northwest wind 10 to 20 mph. (1 more message)

21:03 <wdsmia> &more

21:03 <Romulus> wdsmia: Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Tuesday - Partly sunny. High around 15. West wind 10 to 15 mph.; Tuesday Night - Partly cloudy until early morning then becoming mostly cloudy. A 20 percent chance of snow after midnight. Low zero to 5 above. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Snow Advisory for Polk County in effect until 12:00 AM CST on January 22, 2008;

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21:33 * xcamel wonders if that was pointless..

21:33 <MTughan> We'll find out when we get to DA.

21:33 <xcamel> sorry about "taking over"

21:34 <MTughan> np

21:34 <wdsmia> op app's are still going to be a problem with your BM sceem

21:34 <xcamel> I dont think so - it makes it easier for them in the long run

21:35 <xcamel> and opens up lots of other possibilities..

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21:37 <wdsmia> It could even help cross proj credit if you used a ref app and wu instead of a ref computer

21:38 <xcamel> I made that point a very long time ago

21:38 <wdsmia> non open source of cource

21:39 <bryanUC> wdsmia/xcamel: that's a better idea

21:39 <bryanUC> ref app, something that absolutely beats the hell out of your computer

21:39 <bryanUC> testing every square inch

21:39 <bryanUC> how you match up on that determines the credit you get

21:39 <xcamel> that was my whole argument...

21:39 <MTughan> Want to resuscitate the second session?

21:39 <deprecated> bryanUC, That is the crux of xcamel's suggestion

21:40 <deprecated> Though he did come in late...

21:40 <bryanUC> and was in/out most of the time while watching

21:40 * bryanUC is going back through slowly now

21:40 <xcamel> I missed the whole first session

21:44 <xcamel> once the UBM (ref project) is set, everything else falls into place

21:44 <bryanUC> who would be in charge of the ref project?

21:45 <MTughan> Yeah... Who's going to do that... :P

21:45 <xcamel> well... it's easier than you think

21:46 <xcamel> there is only one right answer for each of the basic computer functions needed for any particular boinc project

21:46 <xcamel> like once you have defined what a "pound" is... everything can now be weighed in pounds..

21:48 <wdsmia> then if some proj uses a app thats out of norm its easy to do a credit correction factor to bring it in line cross project

21:48 <bryanUC> wdsmia: what do you mean 'out of the norm'?

21:50 <xcamel> I think the correction factor concept will go away...

21:50 <wdsmia> odd projects low cpu large bandwith

21:50 <xcamel> the BM would be an equal mix of CPU, memory speed, disk throughput, and net bandwidth

21:51 <xcamel> cpu is broken to int and fp power

21:51 <bryanUC> but is net bandwidth = cpu, in reality?

21:51 <bryanUC> to RS for example, it's useless

21:51 <xcamel> not always...

21:52 <wdsmia> in theory but there is allways the unforseen

21:52 <xcamel> then that part of the BM is not a factor to RS

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21:54 <xcamel> the point is, that users could more accurately predict their performance on the projects they would like to run, and accept the risk/reward of doing so...

21:54 <bryanUC> xcamel: I agree that it would be nice for the user to be able to do that

21:55 <xcamel> a person who really really wants to run folding with a pIII can, but he will also know he won't get much credit for it...

21:55 <xcamel> if any at all, and if that host meets the bare minimum requirement

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21:56 <xcamel> well... off to veg out in front of the tube... it was a good discussion...

21:56 <xcamel> laterz, all..

21:56 * xcamel is away: Gone away for now.

21:56 *** xcamel is now known as xcamel_away

21:57 <MTughan> See ya Jay.

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22:10 <wdsmia> mornin KathrynM

22:10 <KathrynM> Hi

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22:15 <wdsmia> on second thought looks to be about noon your time

22:16 <KathrynM> Yup.  Lunch time.

22:21 <Tank_Master> lunch?

22:21 <Tank_Master> at 7:20 pm? ;)

22:21 <MTughan> lol, past 10PM here.

22:23 <KathrynM> well I generally eat lunch at noon :0)  but everyone is different I guess.

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22:49 <MTughan> 'lo mw

22:49 <mweltin> hey I'm having a problem building an app

22:49 <mweltin> hey MTughan

22:49 <MTughan> Speaking about apps, I got GA and BF with SSEx and AltiVec.

22:49 <mweltin> I'm getting a bunch of undefined references related to boinc_db stuff.

22:49 <mweltin> nice

22:50 <mweltin> I have two more things to do before I turn back to apps.

22:50 <mweltin> the ga work generator is one.

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22:50 <mweltin> dose the boinc api hold all the db stuff.

22:50 <mweltin> MTughan, we can put those apps up tomorrow.

22:51 <MTughan> All right.

22:51 <mweltin> Lets meet after school.

22:52 <mweltin> si there a libboincdb.a ?

22:52 <mweltin> or something similar?

22:54 <MTughan> I know of three boinc libs: libboinc, libboinc_api, and libboinc_zip

22:54 <mweltin> ok

22:56 <mweltin> do you know which ones holds all the db stuff?

22:57 <MTughan> Nope, sorry.

22:58 <mweltin> ok shouldn't be too hard

22:58 <Romulus> On and on and on...... It's so cool, and well worth the effort

22:58 <mweltin> mmmm now I'm getting a build error

23:00 <mweltin> on the boinc server

23:12 <mweltin> checking whether 'ln -s' really works or whether I'm deluding myself... it works

23:12 <MTughan> Heh, yeah.

23:12 <mweltin> ^^ from the boinc configure output

23:14 <mweltin> I don't understand whey I get compile errors for the boinc server

23:15 <MTughan> What are you trying to compile?

23:15 <mweltin> boinc server

23:16 <MTughan> Ah... There may be a DB there, I wouldn't know. I've just dealt with the application part.

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23:20 <mweltin> crap I just hosed my system

23:22 <MTughan> Nice... I'm in 14 projects now.

23:23 <MTughan> ABC, AI, SIMAP, BURP, DepSpid, E@H, IMPFarm, LHC, RCN, RS, S@H, TSP, WCG, and yoyo.

23:24 <MTughan> &[platform]

23:24 <Romulus> MTughan: Are you daft?

23:24 <MTughan> xcamel_away: Not sure what the directive in the title is, but it's wrong.

23:27 <sethy> &windows

23:27 <Romulus> sethy: "windows" could be

23:27 <sethy> &unix

23:27 <Romulus> sethy: Are you daft?

23:27 <sethy> yes

23:27 <sethy> :D

23:27 <Tank_Master> always

23:27 <MTughan> Oh, I see...

23:27 <sethy> &macintosh

23:27 <Tank_Master> but not as much as you

23:27 <Romulus> sethy: Are you daft?

23:27 <sethy> WTF

23:27 <sethy> he knows i hate mac

23:27 <sethy> keep trying

23:28 <sethy> &windows-64

23:28 <Romulus> sethy: Are you daft?

23:28 <sethy> i think jay needs to define 32 and 64 bit systems

23:28 <MTughan> &windows 64

23:28 <Romulus> MTughan: Are you daft?

23:28 <Tank_Master> &winx64

23:28 <MTughan> Oops...

23:28 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Are you daft?

23:28 <MTughan> &windows64

23:28 <Romulus> MTughan: "windows64" could be

23:28 <Tank_Master> &win64

23:28 <Romulus> Tank_Master: "win64" could be

23:28 <MTughan> I see how he did it.

23:29 <sethy> no

23:29 <sethy> i got lost

23:29 <Tank_Master> I had him add win64 and win32

23:29 <Tank_Master> ;)

23:29 <sethy> &osx

23:29 <Romulus> sethy: "osx" could be

23:29 <sethy> &nix

23:29 <Romulus> sethy: Are you daft?

23:29 <sethy> YES

23:29 <Tank_Master> ill bbl

23:29 <sethy> SO GOD HELPME

23:29 <sethy> ok

23:29 <Romulus> Got it. I'm a Doctor

23:30 <sethy> no i am

23:30 <sethy> >;o

23:30 <sethy> anyway mike, whats all #boinc-credit about?

23:30 <MTughan> &learn macintosh as

23:30 <Romulus> MTughan: The operation succeeded.

23:30 <MTughan> &learn osx as

23:30 <Romulus> MTughan: The operation succeeded.

23:31 <MTughan> &learn linux as

23:31 <Romulus> MTughan: The operation succeeded.

23:31 <sethy> reminds me actually

23:31 <MTughan> Anyway, #boinc-credit was supposed to hold open discussion about the credit situation.

23:31 <MTughan> &osx

23:31 <Romulus> MTughan: "osx" could be (#1), or (#2)

23:31 <sethy> orly?

23:31 <MTughan> Crud...

23:31 <MTughan> Yeah.

23:32 <sethy> thanks for reminding me

23:32 <sethy> gonna mod the laptop keyboard ish

23:32 <sethy> change the keys around to rot13 format

23:32 <MTughan> The discussions are over...

23:32 <sethy> this one... isnt

23:32 <sethy> i demand comments on what you think to my keyboard?

23:32 <MTughan> &osx

23:32 <Romulus> MTughan: "osx" could be

23:33 <MTughan> &macintosh

23:33 <Romulus> MTughan: "macintosh" could be

23:33 <MTughan> &linux

23:33 <Romulus> MTughan: "linux" could be (#1), or (#2)

23:33 <MTughan> Heh, it was added twice.

23:33 <MTughan> &factoids forget 2

23:33 <Romulus> MTughan: Error: There is no such factoid.

23:33 <MTughan> Oops...

23:33 <MTughan> &factoids forget linux 2

23:33 <Romulus> MTughan: The operation succeeded.

23:33 <MTughan> &linux

23:33 <Romulus> MTughan: "linux" could be

23:33 <MTughan> Anyway, what's rot13 format?

23:34 <sethy> a = n

23:34 <sethy> b = o

23:34 <sethy> c = p

23:34 <sethy> ect ect

23:34 <MTughan> Encryption format?

23:34 <sethy> ish

23:34 <sethy> rotation of letters at 13 places

23:34 <MTughan> Well, I think it'd be torture if you didn't know the placement of the keys, but go ahead.

23:35 <sethy> i've done this many many times before, just not in rot13

23:35 <sethy> i have like

23:35 <sethy> 500 keyboards anyway

23:35 <MTughan> lol

23:35 <sethy> well 500+ keys

23:35 <sethy> thats like

23:35 <sethy> 5-6 keyboards

23:35 <sethy> wireless doesnt count

23:36 <mweltin> the config keeps finding mysql in a palce it is not.

23:36 <mweltin> does configure you locate to find stuff?

23:36 <Tank_Master> ib

23:37 <sethy> wtf?

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23:40 <sethy> keyboard needs cleaning anyway

23:40 <Tank_Master> wb EFC

23:40 <sethy> omg

23:40 <efc> moo

23:40 <Tank_Master> what?

23:40 <sethy> v b n keys have smaller place holders

23:41 <mweltin> hey efc

23:41 <mweltin> I'm getting close with the branch and bound stuff.

23:41 <mweltin> still not sure how to impliment it in a boinc project.

23:42 <efc> I can see how it might be hard..

23:43 <sethy> that idea so went down the drain

23:43 <sethy> need another keyboard

23:45 <sethy> found one

23:46 <sethy> i even have a box to put the keys in

23:46 <sethy> and i just tried typing with it

23:46 <sethy> -.-$

23:51 <sethy> anyone know what a dvorak keyboard looks like?

23:51 <Tank_Master> better than the qwerty standard

23:52 <Tank_Master> your fingers dont need to muve as much

23:52 <sethy> got pics?

23:52 <Tank_Master> wiki does

23:52 <sethy> find plz, i'm cleaning keyboard

23:54 <Tank_Master>

23:54 <Romulus> <> (at

23:54 <sethy> i'll try it out

23:54 <Tank_Master> ?

23:55 <Tank_Master> you cant just move keys around to get a new layout...

23:55 <sethy> i know

23:55 <Tank_Master> ok...

23:55 <sethy> thats why i have microsoft keyboard layout creator

23:55 <Tank_Master> its been knowen to happen before

23:56 <sethy> the keys are basicly the same in the [hysical world

23:56 <sethy> just in diffrent positions

23:58 <MTughan> Anyone know where "block_sigalrm();" comes from in api/graphics_impl.C?

23:58 <sethy> ctrl+f?

23:59 <MTughan> I'm getting that it is not declared in this scope.

23:59 <sethy> then declare it

23:59 <sethy> make it president

23:59 <MTughan> lol, that's what I'm trying to find.

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