IRC logs of #boinc for Sunday, 2008-01-27

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00:16 <MTughan> &cad

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00:38 <zombie67> pov:  still awake?

00:38 <PovAddict> yes and i really shouldnt

00:40 <zombie67> heh.  how much RAM?

00:40 <zombie67> how many tasks would this job take?

00:40 <PovAddict> I don't know either of that yet

00:40 <Tank_Master_> ?

00:41 <zombie67>

00:41 <Romulus> <> (at

00:43 <Tank_Master_> ahh

00:43 <Tank_Master_> probably not a job for my P3s

00:43 <Romulus> I love sea turtles and sharks.

00:43 <Tank_Master_> LOL

00:43 <Wabbit98> so do I Romulus

00:43 <Tank_Master_> thats, nice... now stfu

00:43 <Wabbit98> they taste good

00:43 <zombie67> pov:  6 days on what machine?

00:43 <zombie67> hi wabbit

00:46 <PovAddict> zombie67: Intel Pentium DualCore 3.06 GH CPU 2,048 MB RAM (2 GB RAM)

00:46 <zombie67> I don't think there is such a thing

00:46 <zombie67> that sounds like a P4

00:47 <PovAddict> well that's what he said

00:47 <zombie67> TM would know for sure

00:47 <zombie67> TM!

00:47 <PovAddict> somebody is now convincing him of using Amazon ECC

00:47 <Tank_Master_> this of it as a celery core2

00:47 <zombie67> english

00:47 <Tank_Master_> think*

00:48 <zombie67> what is the intel number?

00:48 <Tank_Master_> 2xxx

00:48 <MTughan> There was a Pentium D 3.6GHz...

00:48 <PovAddict> nntp://<> or

00:48 <Romulus> <> (at

00:48 <Tank_Master_> 2mb cache, 800 fsb

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00:49 <zombie67> So we are talking about the Core2 chips branded with the old Pentium name?

00:50 <zombie67> hmm, he says "Pentium DualCore 3.06 GH CPU"

00:50 <zombie67> what is GH?

00:50 <zombie67> ah

00:50 <zombie67> NM

00:50 <PovAddict> GHz typo of course

00:50 <zombie67> GHz

00:51 <Romulus> we could have on fedora!

00:51 <MTughan> &stfu

00:51 <Romulus> I don't know, MTughan.

00:51 <PovAddict> STFU bot

00:51 <MTughan> Fine... /ignore it is.

00:51 <zombie67> does this POV stuff use much L2?

00:51 <MTughan> &ping

00:51 <Romulus> pong

00:51 <MTughan> Awesome.

00:52 <PovAddict> zombie67: depends on how damn big his scene is

00:52 <zombie67> ok, for this job you are talking about....

00:52 <zombie67> much L2?

00:52 <PovAddict> I haven't seen the scene at all, that thread I linked is all I know about it

00:52 <MTughan> The closest I can find on Wikipedia is a 3.0GHz Pentium D.

00:53 <zombie67> right.  there was a 3.06 P4

00:53 <MTughan> Or an errant 0 found its way in there and it's a 3.6GHz, but that's less likely.

00:54 <PovAddict> I'm f*cking outta here

00:54 <Tank_Master_> gn

00:54 <MTughan> Yeah, there were a few 3.06GHz P4s...

00:54 <MTughan> Bye.

00:54 <zombie67> gn tm

00:54 <Tank_Master_> ?

00:54 <zombie67> gn pov

00:54 <Tank_Master_> I was refeing to pov

00:54 <Tank_Master_> refering*

00:54 <MTughan> referring*

00:55 <Tank_Master_> refering*

00:55 <zombie67> ah!

00:55 <MTughan> Tank_Master_: Only if you're at CERN. ;)

00:55 <MTughan> Or is it W3C?

00:56 <MTughan> Anyway, the HTTP header for the referring page, named Referer instead of the correct Referrer.

00:56 <MTughan> It's become standard though, so they can't exactly change it. :P

00:57 <zombie67>

00:57 <Romulus> <> (at

00:57 <zombie67> definately not the old PD kind

00:57 <MTughan> Those are current numbers.

00:57 <MTughan>

00:57 <Romulus> <> (at

00:58 <zombie67>

00:58 <Romulus> <> (at

00:58 <zombie67> the core2 based versions top out at 2.2ghz

00:58 <Tank_Master_> ahh, crap, they suck even more than I though

00:59 <MTughan> Well I'm hurting now that I see I missed a 64-bit P4 by about 2 months on my Fedora machine... :(

00:59 <Tank_Master_> I mised it my a week on one of my comps

01:00 <MTughan> Well, it makes it that much sweeter to upgrade from a 32-bit Prescott single-core to a 64-bit quad-core.

01:00 <zombie67> found it!

01:00 <zombie67>

01:00 <Romulus> <> (at

01:00 <MTughan> That's at least 3 times the work on 32-bit apps alone, not counting the advantage 64-bit can give you, plus Core 2's are faster at FP.

01:01 <MTughan> zombie67: Those are current processors. He could've had his for a while.

01:01 <MTughan> Although a Celeron D does make sense.

01:01 <zombie67> but I can't find out the cores in these things

01:02 <MTughan> Celeron D. The D stands for Dual Core, just like the Pentiums.

01:03 <Tank_Master_> even though they are single core

01:03 <zombie67> no, I mean which cored in them

01:03 <zombie67> the old P4 core?  or the C2 core?

01:04 <Tank_Master_> celeronDs are low end P4s

01:05 <MTughan> Wow... LHC's still making work.

01:05 <zombie67> progress!  So the 6 day run time would probably be somewhere around 2 days on my8-way or 4-way boxes

01:05 <MTughan> If it's multi-core too.

01:06 <MTughan> Actually... You may be right.

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01:06 <MTughan> We should see if we can get some numbers on a Celeron D.

01:06 <zombie67> no, this is in BOINC, so multi-core won't help

01:06 <MTughan> Yeah, which is why I corrected myself.

01:07 <Tank_Master_>

01:07 <Romulus> <> (at

01:07 <zombie67> I posted that about 20 lines up

01:07 <Tank_Master_> any yet MT asked again

01:08 <MTughan> No I didn't...

01:08 <zombie67> no, he wanted celeron D

01:08 <MTughan> And I meant performance numbers.

01:08 <zombie67>

01:08 <Romulus> <> (at

01:08 <MTughan> Nope again.

01:08 <Tank_Master_>

01:08 <Romulus> <> (at

01:08 <zombie67> so we need to find someone who has them, and look at their benchmark numbers

01:08 <Tank_Master_> I have one

01:09 <MTughan> Now we're getting somewhere...

01:09 <zombie67> show us a result

01:09 <Romulus> Crud... Mac's done now, but I can't get it to be able to upload a cancled WU

01:09 <Tank_Master_> rerunning bench now

01:09 <MTughan> I think we'll be looking more at floating-point, but not quite sure.

01:10 <Tank_Master_> celeronD 2.93GHz

01:10 <Tank_Master_> 512MB ram, winXP

01:10 <MTughan> Close enough.

01:10 <Tank_Master_> 1500 loat

01:10 <Tank_Master_> 2400 int

01:10 <MTughan> And zombie?

01:11 <zombie67> yes?

01:11 <MTughan> Float and int stats?

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01:12 <zombie67> here it is from one of my dual Xeon 5355 (8-way) boxes

01:13 <zombie67> 2620/6256

01:13 <Tank_Master_> more float than my celery has int

01:13 <zombie67> holy crap!  I have 25k pending at burp

01:13 <Tank_Master_> wow

01:13 <Wabbit> hehehe

01:13 <MTughan> Oh floating point alone, that makes 3 and a half days.

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01:14 <zombie67> lemme look at a quad

01:14 * Tank_Master_ slaps wabit for having multible personalities

01:14 <Wabbit98> hey

01:14 <MTughan> Oh ints, that makes for 2.3 days.

01:14 <Tank_Master_> z - those benchs are per core

01:14 <Wabbit98> at least I can entertain myself

01:14 <MTughan> Tank_Master_: And the apps can only use one core.

01:14 <zombie67> 2960/6504:  QX6700 @ 3ghz

01:15 <Tank_Master_> point is that a quad shouldnt bench much different than a dual wuad

01:15 <zombie67> one last, my 8-way mac

01:15 <MTughan> Lowers it to 3 days on float, 2.2 days on int.

01:16 <zombie67> dual xeon 5365 @ 3ghz = 2432/6853

01:16 <MTughan> 3.7 days on float, 2.1 on int.

01:16 <zombie67> TSP on my G4 was taking over 60k hours

01:16 <MTughan> So I'd say no more than 4 days max.

01:17 <zombie67> agreed

01:17 <Tank_Master_> that all?

01:17 <MTughan> I think so.

01:17 <Wabbit98> weak

01:18 <zombie67> hi again wabbit

01:18 <MTughan> zombie67: Are you running ABC?

01:18 <Wabbit98> hey zombie

01:18 <MTughan> On your Macs, that is.

01:18 <Wabbit98> I run my ABCs

01:18 <Tank_Master_> so whats the difference between a q6700 and a qx6700?

01:18 <MTughan> Tank_Master_: Second's Extreme edition.

01:18 <Tank_Master_> so nothing cept an unlocked multiplyer?

01:18 <zombie67> right

01:19 <Tank_Master_> coo

01:19 <Tank_Master_> good to know

01:19 <MTughan> I don't know what else Extreme packs...

01:19 <MTughan> Okay.

01:19 <zombie67> MT:  yes, I run ABC on my XP64 boxes

01:19 <MTughan> With Leopard, you should be able to do 64-bit on Mac with ABC too.

01:20 <zombie67> no, there is no 64 bit app for OSX

01:20 <MTughan> Should be able to. I don't know what the BOINC manager will request...

01:20 <MTughan> Well, that stops that.

01:20 <Tank_Master_> quickly to

01:20 <MTughan> BOINC Manager right now is just PPC and Intel 32-bit builds right now anyway.

01:20 <zombie67>

01:20 <Romulus> Title: Applications (at

01:20 <MTughan> Yeah, thanks.

01:21 <MTughan> Know if their app is open-source?

01:21 <zombie67> so, even though I could run abc on my macs, I don't.

01:21 <zombie67> I think they gave out the code to some, then asked folks not to use it

01:22 <MTughan> Odd... I could compile a 64-bit version for them.

01:22 <MTughan> x86_64-apple-darwin that is.

01:22 <Romulus> I should be watching out for me?

01:23 <zombie67> this is the way I allocate my machines:  1st:  XP64 boxes crunch only apps that are faster with xp64.  2nd:  Any remaining project that have mac apps, go to my macs.  3rd:  everything else goes to my XP32 boxes

01:23 <zombie67> MT:  offer!

01:23 <MTughan> Okay...

01:23 <MTughan> Not sure where on their forums to do it though...

01:23 <Tank_Master_> no! dont! Itll hurt my standing!

01:23 <Tank_Master_> ;)

01:23 <MTughan> Not like they have categories for each platform.

01:23 <MTughan> lol

01:24 <Tank_Master_> Id say just use the BOINC_Dev e-mail

01:24 <MTughan> For a specific project? I don't think so.

01:24 <Tank_Master_> cus eric and DA do read those

01:24 <zombie67> they lost their admin that was responsive.  the new guys are boinc newbies

01:24 <Tank_Master_> ahh, I thought you were refering to a 64bit BOINC client for Mac

01:24 <Tank_Master_> my bad ;)

01:24 <MTughan> We were...

01:25 <MTughan> Oh, sorry. 64-bit app for ABC at the moment. ;)

01:25 <Tank_Master_> ahh, ok

01:25 <zombie67> they fired up the beta site, issued word, and then didn't realize it would be a problem if they shut it down early without letting folks return pending tasks

01:25 <Tank_Master_> apps are way different than clients ;)

01:25 <MTughan> Although I could work on a 64-bit client though...

01:25 <MTughan> With the right libraries.

01:26 <zombie67> the more appropriate email would be BOINC Projects, but not for any project specific stuff.

01:26 <MTughan> Yeah.

01:26 <Wabbit98> hmmmm

01:27 <zombie67> ah!

01:27 <zombie67> you meant for BOINC itself

01:27 <MTughan> Okay, hold on...

01:28 <MTughan> We were originally discussing a 64-bit OS X app for ABC. TM though we were discussing a 64-bit BOINC Manager for OS X, and then I said I probably could.

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01:29 <Tank_Master_> so wabit leaves

01:29 <Wabbit98> I am here

01:30 <zombie67> anywho, the ABC admin(s) are new, green, and rarely participate on the forum.

01:30 <zombie67> but give it a shot!

01:30 <zombie67> if you build it, I will crunch it

01:31 <MTughan> Monday. Sunday's gonna be busy.

01:31 <Wabbit98> I have never seen aby help from the ABC admins on their forums

01:31 <MTughan> Got tech stuff at my church, and then we have a transfer student from Korea arriving later in the day.

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01:35 <Tank_Master_> nice

01:35 <Tank_Master_> she hot? ;)

01:35 <Wabbit98> the transfer could be a guy

01:36 <Tank_Master_> lol, probably is

01:36 <efc> so picky

01:36 <MTughan> It is.

01:36 <Tank_Master_> hehe

01:36 <MTughan> Name's Dave.

01:36 <Tank_Master_> odd name for a hot chick

01:36 <Wabbit98> it is Korean

01:36 <Wabbit98> maybe Dave is for all hot chicks

01:36 <Tank_Master_> true

01:37 <Tank_Master_> LOL

01:37 <Tank_Master_> I can only hope

01:37 <MTughan> I regret ever telling you...

01:37 <Tank_Master_> rofl

01:37 <zombie67> in other words, no

01:37 <Wabbit98> I regret nothing

01:37 <Tank_Master_> what tech stuff do you do at your church?

01:37 <MTughan> Manage the lighting and the projector stuff.

01:37 <Tank_Master_> I man the sound booth, and some stuff on the comps

01:37 <Wabbit98> God needs high-speed internet

01:37 <Tank_Master_> we have nigh speed

01:38 <Tank_Master_> verison fiber

01:38 <MTughan> Ditto.

01:38 <MTughan> Not fiber.

01:38 <Tank_Master_> we have no projector, and the lights are switches

01:38 <Tank_Master_> you much be appart of a fairly good sized church

01:38 <MTughan> We have lighting faders.

01:38 <Tank_Master_> must*

01:38 <Tank_Master_> same here, all 2 of them

01:39 <MTughan> 96 possible... About 20 used.

01:39 <Wabbit98> praying to the wrong God, TM?

01:39 <Tank_Master_> 2 more fore resesed lights, one for the wall lights, and more of the staned glass in the wall

01:39 <MTughan> We don't have stained glass...

01:39 <Tank_Master_> 20 what used?

01:39 <MTughan> 20 faders with lights on them.

01:39 <Romulus> city murders are just darwin's law at work..

01:39 <Tank_Master_> this was from our old church, that was built in 1909

01:40 <Tank_Master_> gaa, thats a lot of faiders

01:40 <Tank_Master_> sad thing is that rommie's statement actually fits

01:40 <MTughan> They're grouped into controls, so I only have to play with two during a service.

01:40 <Tank_Master_> good :)

01:40 <MTughan> lol, I /ignore'd Rommie.

01:41 <Tank_Master_> city murders are just darwin's law at work..

01:41 <Tank_Master_> ^^ rommie's staement

01:41 <Tank_Master_> how meny people attend?

01:41 <MTughan> Probably about 200-300 a service.

01:41 <MTughan> 3 services a weekend.

01:42 <Tank_Master_> we tilically get 175-200 here, only one service

01:42 <Tank_Master_> yeah, not a small one ;)

01:42 <MTughan> It's better than 2000 a service.

01:42 <Tank_Master_> my grandma's holda 4 ervices of over 1,000 each

01:43 <Tank_Master_> to many people for my taste

01:43 <MTughan> Probably.

01:45 <MTughan> My grandmother's church probably holds about 100 people for one service.

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03:16 <FreeLarry58> &deepthought 10

03:16 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: As we were driving, we saw a sign that said "Watch For Rocks." Marta said it should read "Watch For Pretty Rocks." I told her she should write in her suggestion to the highway department, but she started saying it was a joke - just to get out of writing a simple letter! And I thought I was lazy!

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04:15 <FreeLarry58> morn Kathryn

04:15 <Kathryn> Evening :)

04:15 <FreeLarry58> 115am

04:15 <FreeLarry58> trying to get ready for bed

04:15 <Kathryn> Yeah.

04:16 <Kathryn> 615 PM  Getting ready for dinner

04:19 <CoderForLife> morning

04:19 <Kathryn> evenin' even :)

04:19 <CoderForLife> time flies

04:20 <CoderForLife> 4:22am

04:20 <Kathryn> What are you doing up?

04:21 <CoderForLife> let's see - breathing, heart is beating, neurons are scrambled...

04:22 <CoderForLife> Are you in Korea?

04:22 <Kathryn> Yup.

04:22 <CoderForLife> I didn't know that, but tracert reveals all.

04:23 <Kathryn> :)

04:23 <CoderForLife> I *assume* South Korea

04:24 <Kathryn> Yeah.  Ulsan.  The southern part of South Korea.

04:24 <CoderForLife> Yup, I detected the southern accent

04:25 <Kathryn> Funny coming from a nice Cleveland girl.

04:25 <CoderForLife> lol  south of the DMZ is like south of the Mason-Dixon line

04:25 <Kathryn> :)

04:26 <CoderForLife> so how'd a nice Buckeye like you wind up half-a-world away?

04:27 <Kathryn> Nice pay.  Nice schedule.  World travel.  It's turning out to be a dream job.

04:27 <CoderForLife> At least you remained a Northern Hemispherian

04:28 <Kathryn> True.

04:29 <CoderForLife> well, this Buckeye didn't fall far from the tree

04:29 <Kathryn> Where are you?

04:29 <CoderForLife> Cincinnati

04:30 <CoderForLife> are you familiar with the area?

04:30 <Kathryn> Only enough to know the Bengel's play there :)

04:30 <Kathryn> Drove through there a few times on my way to/from Austin.

04:30 <CoderForLife> yeah, maybe next year we'll have a professional football team here

04:31 <Kathryn> I feel your pain.

04:31 <CoderForLife> I live on the northeast side of the I-275 loop

04:31 <Kathryn> But at least your owner didn't up and move your team to another state...

04:31 <Kathryn> (I'm not still bitter, not at all)

04:32 <Kathryn> I grew up on the SE burbs of Cleveland.

04:32 <CoderForLife> The Browns were much better this year

04:32 <Kathryn> I heard.

04:32 <Kathryn> Probably because I moved out of the country and couldn't watch the games.

04:32 <CoderForLife> it's all about you

04:32 <Kathryn> yup :-)

04:32 <CoderForLife> =)

04:33 <CoderForLife> right now - I need to get some breakfast

04:33 <CoderForLife> so - bbiab

04:33 <Kathryn> later

04:37 <mweltin> hey everybody

04:37 <Kathryn> Hey Markus

04:37 <mweltin> ahhhh kathryn

04:37 <mweltin> how are you ?

04:38 <Kathryn> I'm ok.  And you?

04:38 <Kathryn> Just waiting for my dinner to finish cooking.

04:39 <mweltin> went diving today, had a great meal out with some friends and going diving tomorrow.  So I'm good.

04:39 <mweltin> whats for dinner?

04:40 <Kathryn> Tofu marinated in sesame oil, garlic, parsimmon vinegar and basil, then baked.

04:40 <mweltin> mmmmmmmmmm garlic

04:40 <Kathryn> lol

04:40 <mweltin> I love garlic

04:41 <Kathryn> I usually do it with olive oil and basalmic vinegar.  But those were expensive here.

04:41 <mweltin> from raw to roasted and all stages in between.

04:41 <Kathryn> So we'll see how the variation turns out.

04:41 <Kathryn> Me too

04:41 <mweltin> sounds wonderful

04:41 <Kathryn> I used to go to a little Italian place in Austin and get their awesome roasted garlic and crusty bread.

04:41 <mweltin> never even heard of parsimmon viegar.

04:41 * Kathryn thinks fondly of Romeo's

04:41 <Kathryn> I might be spelling it wrong...

04:42 <mweltin> you never have to apologize for spelling to me

04:42 <Kathryn> yeah... definitely spelling it wrong

04:42 <Kathryn>

04:42 <mweltin> I can't spell my way out of a paper bag

04:42 <Romulus> Title: Persimmon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

04:42 <mweltin> I knew what you meant

04:42 <Kathryn> That makes two of us.  And they let me teach English.

04:42 <Romulus> looks like its for finding bad profiles (i.e. spammers) on a network with a inaccurate /proc/cpuinfo ....

04:42 <Kathryn> brb...  oven just went ding

04:42 <mweltin> LOL

04:45 <Kathryn> Just looked at the bottle.  Seems they advocate drinking the vingar with soju...  Ewwwwww

04:45 <Kathryn> Soju is pretty bad on it's own.

04:46 <Kathryn>

04:46 <Romulus> Title: Soju - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

04:46 <mweltin> yeah it needs a little help, but it soaks up flavor like a sponge.

04:47 <mweltin> LOL I thought you were talking about tofu

04:47 <Kathryn> yummy...  I think I like this version better than the olive oil/basalmic version.

04:47 <Kathryn> LOL

04:47 <mweltin> mmmmmmmm

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04:48 <mweltin> rice never seems to make a great distilled beverage.

04:48 <Kathryn> I wanted to make it for dinner yesterday, but my refigerator seems to be going wonky.  It froze the block of tofu I bought Friday night.

04:48 <Romulus> I thought he was against it.

04:48 <mweltin> its the mark of a bad beer brewer to use rice adjuncts.

04:48 <mweltin> tofu-sicle

04:48 <mweltin> mmmmmmmmm

04:49 <Kathryn> Something like that

04:50 <mweltin> I'm trying to make a invoice in pdf, and its tedious layout work and I have never used fpdf before.

04:51 <mweltin> Weekend is here, are you working on your parser?

04:51 * Kathryn goes to hide in a corner...

04:51 <Kathryn> (no)

04:52 <mweltin> I don't care what you do with your time, no need to hide from me.

04:52 <Kathryn> And I don't have a really good excuse for not doing it either.

04:52 <mweltin> I was just asking

04:52 <mweltin> you don't need one

04:52 <Kathryn> :)

04:53 <mweltin> play time is always more important the xml parsing

04:56 <CoderForLife> baaack

04:56 <Kathryn> wb

04:56 <Kathryn> How was breakfast?

04:56 <CoderForLife> thx

04:56 <CoderForLife> I'm looking at it, but haven't tasted it yet

04:57 <CoderForLife> ...  it's good ...

05:01 <CoderForLife> ... it's gone ...

05:01 <Kathryn> LOL

05:01 <Kathryn> Someone just finished a valid E@H result on one of the OLPC computers.

05:01 <CoderForLife> wow

05:02 <Kathryn>

05:02 <Romulus> <> (at

05:04 <CoderForLife> only MIT could figure out how to do that

05:05 <FreeLarry58> did you see the time 8O

05:05 <FreeLarry58> what type of processor is olpc? a 486DX?

05:07 <CoderForLife> AuthenticAMD

05:07 <CoderForLife> Geode(TM) Integrated Processor by AMD PCS [Family 5 Model 10 Stepping 2]

05:09 <CoderForLife> pretty

05:09 <Romulus> Title: Astronomy Picture of the Day (at

05:10 <FreeLarry58> &google Geode(TM) Integrated Processor

05:10 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: Search took 0.33 seconds: National Semiconductor's Geode Processor Wins ``Best Highly ...: <>; Re: 2.6.24-rc8-git does not boot on Geode LX: <>; geode - <>; Mini-ITX Motherboard utilizes (2 more messages)

05:10 <FreeLarry58> &more

05:10 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: AMD GeodeTM LX processor ., IBASE ...: <>; port-i386: Geode LX patch: <>; Wasabi Storage Builder(R) and The AMD Geode ( TM ) LX Processor : An ...: <>; AMD Geode Solutions: < (1 more message)

05:11 <FreeLarry58> &more

05:11 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/32058A_Geode_Solutions_Brochure.pdf>; AMD Debuts Sempron Processor 2100+, Geode LX 800 for Embedded ...: <>; LKML: Juergen Beisert: Re: kernel 2.6.23-rc6 hangs on Geode GX1: <>; gmane.os.openbsd.misc: <>

05:13 <FreeLarry58> Pentium-class x86 processor core in a single highly integrated processor chip that is ideal for use in information appliances.

05:13 <CoderForLife> there ya go

05:13 <CoderForLife> one step up from 486DX

05:14 <FreeLarry58> just barely but yeah

05:15 <FreeLarry58> if i remember the pentium didn't even need a cpu fan either

05:15 <CoderForLife> just a heat sink

05:16 <mweltin> my dad used to debug punch card programs with a transistor radio.

05:17 <CoderForLife> OK, I'll bite

05:17 <mweltin> its ture,

05:17 <mweltin> they would load up their program into a computer

05:17 <CoderForLife> how'd he do that?

05:18 <mweltin> puch card reader

05:18 <Romulus> fills the fuel tank with coffee and crumpets with butter and promite on them :-)

05:18 <mweltin> they set the radio ontop of the computer.

05:19 <mweltin> the computer was all tubes then and would emmit RF, and they could kind of tell at what point the program was at depending on the noise they would pick up on the radio.

05:19 <CoderForLife> nice trick

05:20 <mweltin> yeah, he also told me stories about the memory.

05:20 <mweltin> used to be in a room as big as a closet.

05:20 <mweltin> sometimes what would take hair dryers to clear the memory.

05:21 <CoderForLife> for some reason, I was reminded of the guys I worked with at the power plant, who would bring uncooked jars of soup from home in the morning, set them on top of the 350MW turbine, and have it ready-to-eat by noon

05:37 <CoderForLife> that was a conversation stopper

05:41 <Kathryn>

05:41 <Romulus> <> (at

05:41 <Kathryn> Anyone got any ideas what went wrong with this guy's work?

05:42 <Kathryn> Google was extraordinarly unhelpful.

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05:46 <CoderForLife> er.. um.. "it didn't work out"..

05:47 <Kathryn> Wow.  That's almost as helpful as Google :-)

05:47 <Kathryn> I'll email Martin about it I guess.

05:47 <CoderForLife> can I get some of their market capitalization?

05:48 * Kathryn throws a few pennies CFL's way.

05:48 <CoderForLife> ouch =)

05:48 <Kathryn> ;)

05:49 <CoderForLife> brb  NeedMoreBeverage

05:50 <Romulus> Acili: Running GNOME or KDE?

05:55 <CoderForLife> NeedMoreBeverage condition satisfied

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06:57 <CoderForLife> bbl

07:00 <mweltin_> later

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08:20 * xcamel_away is back.

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08:20 <xcamel> mornin

08:22 <wdsmia> mornin

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08:43 <xcamel> a bit of snow over nigh..

08:43 <xcamel> er night even..

08:43 <Romulus> sorry not "double click"... right click me, and i'll click em

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09:15 <wdsmia> &weather 50319

09:15 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 21F / -6C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h ; Today - Sunny. High in the lower 40s. South wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy until early morning then becoming mostly cloudy. Not as cold. Low in the mid 30s. Temperature steady or slowly rising after midnight. South wind 15 to 20 mph.; Monday - Mostly (1 more message)

09:15 <wdsmia> &more

09:15 <Romulus> wdsmia: cloudy. A slight chance of rain showers in the morning...then a chance of rain in the afternoon. Breezy. Not as cool. High in the upper 40s. South wind 15 to 25 mph. Chance of precipitation 40 percent.;

09:26 <xcamel> mornin Doug

09:26 <wdsmia> mornin Jay

09:26 <Romulus> admins from both are usually known as "autohell tools"

09:26 <PovAddict> lol

09:27 <xcamel> that should be in quotegrab...

09:29 <xcamel> Romulus, learn admins are usually known as "autohell tools"

09:29 <Romulus> xcamel: The operation succeeded.

09:44 <xcamel> &admins

09:44 <Romulus> I have no idea.

09:44 <PovAddict> owh...

09:44 <PovAddict> &"admins are usually known"

09:44 <Romulus> I hear ya, PovAddict.

09:44 <PovAddict> ...

09:44 <PovAddict> crap

09:45 <xcamel> Romulus, learn admins is usually known as autohell tools

09:45 <Romulus> xcamel: The operation succeeded.

09:45 <xcamel> &admins

09:45 <Romulus> I guess admins are usually known, xcamel

09:45 <xcamel> is/as database

09:45 <PovAddict> well your learn assigned "admins are usually known" to "autohell tools", then my attempt to *fetch* that assigned 'admins' to 'are usually known'...

09:45 <PovAddict> crap

09:46 <PovAddict> is/are and as databases are independent...

09:46 <xcamel> no kidding..

09:46 <xcamel> is/as/are

09:46 <Romulus> useless fun facts for markov to play with two fingers.

09:48 <xcamel> Romulus, learn admins as usually known for being "autohell tools"

09:48 <Romulus> xcamel: The operation succeeded.

09:48 <xcamel> &admins

09:48 <Romulus> hmm... admins are usually known, xcamel

09:48 <PovAddict> what is the plugin with is/are?

09:48 <xcamel> doen't like quotes..

09:49 <xcamel> Romulus, learn admins as usually known for being 'autohell tools'

09:49 <Romulus> xcamel: The operation succeeded.

09:49 <xcamel> &admins

09:49 <Romulus> hmm... admins are usually known, xcamel

09:49 <xcamel> Romulus, learn admins as usually known for being autohell tools

09:49 <Romulus> xcamel: The operation succeeded.

09:49 <xcamel> &admins

09:49 <Romulus> Rumor has it admins are usually known, xcamel

09:49 <xcamel> I give up

09:49 <PovAddict> it's another plugin giving what I accidentally added

09:49 <xcamel> Romulus, forget admins

09:49 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: 3 factoids have that key.  Please specify which one to remove, or use * to designate all of them.

09:49 <xcamel> Romulus, forget admins *

09:49 <Romulus> xcamel: The operation succeeded.

09:50 <xcamel> Romulus, learn admins as usually known for being autohell tools

09:50 <Romulus> xcamel: The operation succeeded.

09:50 <xcamel> &admins

09:50 <Romulus> admins are usually known, xcamel

09:50 <PovAddict> geez

09:50 * xcamel shoots self

09:50 <PovAddict> &whatis admins

09:50 <Romulus> PovAddict: "admins" could be usually known for being autohell tools

09:51 <xcamel> ah... rotating...

09:51 <PovAddict> trying to figure out what other plugin got it

09:51 <PovAddict> it's not MoobotFactoids either

09:54 <xcamel> Moobot doesn't seem to work quite right

09:54 <PovAddict> moobot factoid db is empty, so it wasn't there

09:54 <PovAddict> &admins

09:54 <Romulus> I guess admins are usually known, PovAddict

09:55 <xcamel> &list moobot

09:55 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: 'moobot' is not a valid plugin.

09:55 <PovAddict> &list moobotfactoids

09:55 <Romulus> PovAddict: factinfo, listauth, listkeys, listvalues, literal, lock, most, random, remove, and unlock

09:56 <xcamel> &factinfo *

09:56 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: No such factoid: "*"

09:56 <PovAddict> found it! infobot

09:56 <xcamel> &factinfo listkeys

09:56 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: No such factoid: "listkeys"

09:56 <xcamel> &listkeys

09:56 <Romulus> xcamel: (listkeys [<channel>] <text>) -- Lists the keys of the factoids whose key contains the provided text. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.

09:56 <xcamel> &listkeys #boinc

09:56 <Romulus> xcamel: (listkeys [<channel>] <text>) -- Lists the keys of the factoids whose key contains the provided text. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.

09:56 <PovAddict> &moobotfactoids random

09:56 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: No factoids in the database.

09:57 <xcamel> ok..

09:57 <PovAddict> &infobot tell xcamel admins

09:57 <xcamel> &tell xcamel admins

09:58 <wdsmia> poor Rommie he's so confused

09:58 <xcamel> that was interesting.. told me in my rom window..

09:59 <xcamel> otu to feed the zoo..

10:00 <PovAddict> &admins is

10:00 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).

10:00 <PovAddict> &admins

10:00 <Romulus> Rumor has it admins are usually known, PovAddict

10:00 <PovAddict> &forget admins

10:00 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

10:00 <PovAddict> &admins

10:00 <Romulus> Rumor has it admins are usually known, PovAddict

10:00 <PovAddict> sigh

10:00 <PovAddict> &forget admins

10:00 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: There is no such factoid.

10:00 <PovAddict> factoid plugin is grabbing 'forget' and not letting infobot see it

10:01 <PovAddict> &infobot forget admins

10:01 <Romulus> Wish I knew!

10:01 <PovAddict> i give up too

10:01 <Romulus> PovAddict : seams to be liberated

10:13 <yoyo[RKN]> re

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10:20 <BadBarbarian> Mornin

10:20 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86046

10:20 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 35.6F / 2.0C | Humidity: 95% | Pressure: 23.59in / 798.8hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 13.2mph / 21.2km/h ; Today - Breezy. Rain and snow. Patchy fog. Snow accumulation 2 to 4 inches...mainly above 8000 feet. Snow level 7000 to 7500 feet. Highs around 39. South winds 15 to 25 mph.; Tonight - Windy. Rain and snow. Snow accumulation 2 to 5 inches. (2 more messages)

10:20 <BadBarbarian> &more

10:20 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Snow level 7000 feet. Lows around 30. Southwest winds 20 to 30 mph with gusts to around 45 mph causing some areas of blowing snow.; Monday - Windy...colder. Snow showers likely. Snow accumulation 1 to 2 inches. Near steady temperature in the lower 30s. Southwest winds 20 to 35 mph. Chance of snow 70 percent.; Snow and Blowing Snow Advisory for Coconino County in effect until 5:00 AM MST on (1 more message)

10:20 <BadBarbarian> &more

10:20 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: January 28, 2008;

10:21 <Romulus> what sort of coordinates?

10:22 <BadBarbarian> Romulus you suck sometimes

10:22 <Romulus> I don't have a clue.

10:22 <BadBarbarian> lol

10:34 <Romulus> attempts to get a clue

10:48 <Tank_Master_> &weather 97007

10:48 <Tank_Master_> &more

10:48 <Romulus> Tank_Master_: Error: That's all, there is no more.

10:48 <Romulus> Tank_Master_: Temperature: 38.4F / 3.6C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 29.48in / 998.2hPa | Conditions: Fog | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Rain or snow in the morning...then showers in the afternoon. Snow level lowering to 500 feet. Snow 1 to 3 inches above 500 to 1000 feet. Highs 35 to 40. Southwest wind 5 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Showers mostly of snow. Snow accumulation 2 to 4 (2 more messages)

10:48 <Tank_Master_> &more

10:48 <Romulus> Tank_Master_: inches above 500 to 1000 feet...and locally up to an inch below 500 feet. Lows around 30. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Monday - Showers mostly of snow. Snow accumulation 2 to 4 inches above 500 to 1000 feet...and locally up to an inch below 500 feet. Highs 35 to 40. West wind 5 to 15 mph.; Snow Advisory for Washington County in effect until 4:00 PM PST on January 28, 2008; Special Weather (1 more message)

10:48 <Tank_Master_> &more

10:48 <Romulus> Tank_Master_: Statement for Washington County in effect until 3:00 PM PST on January 27, 2008;

10:58 <xcamel> 'lo TM

11:00 <Tank_Master_> hey

11:05 <xcamel> turning out to be a nice winter day here..

11:07 <Tank_Master_> good :)

11:07 <Tank_Master_> its foggy here

11:08 <xcamel> bottom of

11:13 <xcamel> still have a few things to do outside, but it warmed up nicely..

11:13 <xcamel> maybe after lunch

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11:15 <xcamel> thought you were staying up late there for a minute...

11:17 <xcamel> plink spamvot >>

11:17 <xcamel> er spambot even

11:20 <BadBarbarian> "lo jay

11:23 <BadBarbarian> nice pics jay what about 6 inches

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11:25 <xcamel> just a couple inches of new overnight

11:25 <xcamel> just really fluffy....

11:25 <BadBarbarian> power Nice

11:25 <BadBarbarian> powder

11:33 <xcamel> powdah..

11:40 <BadBarbarian> lol i guess you ski too

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11:54 <xcamel> used to.. knees can't take it any more..

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11:54 <Aruzo> ?

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11:56 <unluckier> hi

11:57 <unluckier> is there something in boinc that prevents the linux cpu scheduler from changing the frequency?

11:57 <PovAddict> yes, the fact that it uses all CPU

11:57 <xcamel> scheduler gets set in any of the project websites also..

11:58 <PovAddict> xcamel: I think he's talking about the kernel scheduler

11:58 <xcamel> AFA how long any project runs in the 'round robin' scheme

11:58 <PovAddict> unluckier: you have something to lower the CPU frequency?

11:59 <unluckier> i said scheduler? i meant frequency.. governor it's called i think. sorry

11:59 <PovAddict> well, it lowers CPU frequency when the CPU is not in use

11:59 <PovAddict> with BOINC, the CPU is always in use, that's the idea

11:59 <Romulus> last time like I made what I eat.

12:00 <unluckier> anyways, it's something that changes the cpu's frequency on demand, usually anyways. when boinc is running though, it doesn't increase the frequency.

12:01 <unluckier> it completely disregards boinc when choosing the frequency.

12:02 <PovAddict> "on demand"? exactly, BOINC will be demanding 100%

12:03 <unluckier> yes. so the frequency should be 100% too. but it isn't.

12:05 <CoderForLife> thanks for the plink, xcamel

12:06 <CoderForLife> off to see sister in the hospital this afternoon

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12:09 <yoyo[RKN]> PovAddict : can I send a file to my useres, which is not part of a result or the application?

12:10 <unluckier> oh well, i'll just assume it knows what it's doing.

12:10 <unluckier> bye

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12:10 <yoyo[RKN]> e.g. for a application which searches for primes this application uses a list of known primes

12:11 <yoyo[RKN]> this list is not part of the result and not part of the application

12:11 <yoyo[RKN]> but I will change it every week

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12:20 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: you can in theory

12:20 <yoyo[RKN]> how?

12:20 <Romulus> hmm... how is breakfast, yoyo[RKN]

12:20 <PovAddict> but the file-sending features aren't very tested...

13:12 <xcamel> there.. rest of chores done..

13:15 * xcamel wonders if there are more functions worthy of Romulus..

13:16 <xcamel> AthlonRob had a couple of great scripts back in the day...

13:17 <xcamel> one was boinc 'userstats' from within the channel

13:17 * xcamel isn't a programmer...

13:17 * PovAddict doesn't know python

13:17 <PovAddict> I'd rather write my own bot from scratch than learn python and figure out the plugin interface of Supybot

13:22 <desti> python, the only language that looks the same, before and after rsa encryption

13:24 <PovAddict> isn't that perl?

13:24 <PovAddict> python is fairly readable

13:24 <PovAddict> I just can't be bothered to learn it

13:25 <desti> oh...I'd only remeber it was something starting with p

13:25 <PovAddict> "Obfuscated Perl" is considered redundant

13:35 <xcamel> are all the qmc workunits bad lately?

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14:09 <mweltin_> LOL

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14:33 <xcamel> well.. that's a good start

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14:37 <MTughan> ?

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14:39 <xcamel> playing with something - please ignore..

14:41 <Soul_keeper> lol

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14:48 <xcamel> need to generate enough traffic for it yo create an image..

14:48 <PovAddict> ok

14:48 <PovAddict> oh is it like SocialBorg?

14:48 <Romulus> app::clear App_verions::clear Result::clear and Workuni::clear

14:48 <xcamel> wether or not I can get it to the webserver will be another story..

14:48 <xcamel> yes..

14:49 <xcamel> written in java

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14:57 <xcamel> hmm.. doesn't want to generate an image for some reason

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15:04 <xcamel> stats

15:13 <MTughan> Yay... I now have at least 1 credit in all my projects! ^^

15:13 <MTughan> Lowest is 1.16 in AI. :P

15:14 <Lorvija> hey, anyone know if i can turn linux server to wireless access point with usb wireless adapter?

15:14 <PovAddict> you probably can, but I dont know how :)

15:14 <Lorvija> well ye.. thought so myself too.. :P usually one can do pretty much anything.. something just takes a LOT work :E

15:16 <Lorvija> thought i'd buy combined server to act as router/firewall/wireless ap/media center/fileserver/to control my home/run boinc.. :P

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15:29 <MTughan> Yay, I passed 180K overall...

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15:30 <MTughan> And I've gone up 10,000 spots in LHC... Wow.

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15:31 <xcamel> stats

15:32 <PovAddict> PieSpyRom: stats

15:32 <PovAddict> works via pm

15:32 <PovAddict> xcamel: I think edges are made like this

15:32 <PovAddict> yep got it

15:33 <PovAddict> MTughan: 10000 spots? how much new credit?

15:33 <xcamel> just trying to get it to draw..

15:33 <MTughan> I think about 110.

15:33 <MTughan> I'm at 140 now.

15:33 <MTughan> Oops, 200...

15:33 <PovAddict> 5404 LHC credits myself :)

15:34 <MTughan> Yeah, I haven't crunched that many LHC WUs though.

15:34 <MTughan> Dang... Last week, I added about 150 credits on. Was at 40.

15:34 <MTughan>

15:34 <Romulus> <> (at

15:35 <MTughan> Holy crap...

15:35 <Romulus> <> (at

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15:35 <CoderForLife> re-back

15:35 <MTughan> 'lo Don

15:35 <CoderForLife> howdy howdy

15:36 <MTughan> I went up 10,000 spots in LHC last week.

15:36 <CoderForLife> sister continues to improve

15:36 <MTughan> Good news.

15:36 <CoderForLife> a-yuppa

15:38 <Tank_Master_> I habe 157k in LHC

15:38 <MTughan> lol... 197.

15:38 <MTughan> Note, no K.

15:39 <MTughan> Although 150 of that was added in the past three days.

15:39 <Tank_Master_> nice :)

15:39 <Tank_Master_> I did about 3.5k in the past few days

15:40 <MTughan> And how many computers do you have crunching LHC?

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15:40 <Tank_Master_> 50+

15:40 <Tank_Master_> 35 are P3s though

15:40 <PovAddict> we all hate you and you know it

15:40 <Tank_Master_> :)

15:40 <PovAddict> how long do the P3s take per WU?

15:40 <MTughan> I have one P4 crunching LHC while fighting RieselSieve.

15:40 <Tank_Master_> just wate when I do upgrades

15:41 <MTughan> &insult Tank_Master_

15:41 <Romulus> Tank_Master_ - You are nothing but a clouted accumulation of half-faced sores.

15:41 <Tank_Master_> &insult MTughan

15:41 <Romulus> MTughan - You are nothing but a tickle-brained mound of knotty-pated snot.

15:41 <MTughan> I'll have to look at the Colloquy docs... /unignore doesn't take off an ignore.

15:42 <MTughan> So I can't see that. :P

15:42 <Tank_Master_> MTughan - You are nothing but a tickle-brained mound of knotty-pated snot.

15:42 <MTughan> And you?

15:42 <Tank_Master_> Tank_Master_ - You are nothing but a clouted accumulation of half-faced sores.

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15:42 * MTughan hits Tank_Master_ with a small picture of Bill Gates

15:43 <MTughan> I have my own tricks...

15:43 * Tank_Master_ takes the pic and heads to bed

15:43 <xcamel> tricks are for kids..

15:43 <Tank_Master_> no wonder why they start young, xcamel

15:49 <MTughan> I think that was just a freak occurrence... I just got more LHC work...

15:49 <MTughan> But nothing on their server status page.

15:49 <PovAddict> a resend

15:49 <Tank_Master_> must be, the mebsite says "up, out of crap"

15:50 <PovAddict> if you refresh many times, you'll notice some work appears

15:50 <PovAddict> and quickly goes away

15:50 <MTughan> My client just happened to update at the right time.

15:50 <PovAddict> exactly

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16:02 <CoderForLife> hmm

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16:03 <xcamel> guess I need to let it generate some errors to find the problem..

16:03 <xcamel> 'lo Don

16:03 <CoderForLife> hello Jay

16:04 <CoderForLife> visiting a hospital makes one a bit somber

16:04 <xcamel> always..

16:05 <CoderForLife> so I came back here for some mapcap mayhem and merriment

16:07 <Tank_Master_> ..

16:10 <CoderForLife> you know, business as usual

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16:14 <CoderForLife> wb PieSpyRom

16:17 <CoderForLife> dinner time - bbiab

16:18 <Tank_Master> hf

16:24 <xcamel> PieSpyRom: hello

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16:28 <efc> &weather "Inaccessible Island"

16:28 <Romulus> efc: Error: Could not find weather information.  (This may be a bug. If you think it is, please file a bug report at < acker/?func=add&group_id=58965&atid=489447>.)

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16:43 <xcamel> &weather Pleasure Island

16:43 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: Could not find weather information.  (This may be a bug. If you think it is, please file a bug report at < acker/?func=add&group_id=58965&atid=489447>.)

16:43 <xcamel> nope.. not there either..

16:45 <Tank_Master> &weather boring

16:45 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: Could not find weather information.  (This may be a bug. If you think it is, please file a bug report at < acker/?func=add&group_id=58965&atid=489447>.)

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16:52 <xcamel> PieSpyRom: hello

16:52 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

16:53 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 41.0F / 5.0C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 29.36in / 994.1hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Today - Rain or snow in the morning...then showers in the afternoon. Snow level near 500 feet. Snow 1 to 3 inches above 500 to 1000 feet. Highs 35 to 40. Southwest wind 5 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Showers mostly of snow. Snow accumulation 2 to 4 (2 more messages)

16:53 <Tank_Master> &more

16:53 <Tank_Master> &more

16:53 <Romulus> Tank_Master: inches above 500 to 1000 feet...and locally up to an inch below 500 feet. Lows around 30. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Monday - Showers mostly of snow. Snow accumulation 2 to 4 inches above 500 to 1000 feet...and locally up to an inch below 500 feet. Highs 35 to 40. West wind 5 to 15 mph.; Snow Advisory for Washington County in effect until 4:00 PM PST on January 28, 2008; Special Weather (1 more message)

16:53 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Statement for Washington County in effect until 10:30 PM PST on January 27, 2008;

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17:02 <efc> I don't think there's a weather station on Inaccessible

17:02 <efc> no permanent human habitation and only like one expedition every 5-10 years

17:05 <xcamel> can a .java be turned into a .class ?

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17:06 <Romulus> thats enough for depspid to give you the radius the circle is sort of glad I have all kinds of people will not have done a type...I thought you were looking for?

17:06 <efc> Yes, thats what the javac compiler does

17:06 <efc> though i'm terribly rusty, i think thats how it works

17:06 <PovAddict> xcamel: as much as a .c can be converted to a .o and then an executable binary

17:06 <xcamel> hmmm..

17:06 <efc> if things are going well you should be able to say javac

17:06 <efc> and get myfile.class

17:07 <xcamel> we'll try it..

17:07 <efc> javac has to have a lot of path garbage set up to work, typically

17:07 <efc> but maybe you'll get lucky

17:08 <BadBarbarian[a]> 'lo jay & efc

17:10 <efc> moo BB

17:11 <BadBarbarian[a]> Moo Too

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17:23 <xcamel> 'lo BB

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17:51 <PovAddict> RCN now has screensaver

17:51 <PovAddict> but seems it has problems communicating with the science app, so it doesn't show any useful data :(

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18:19 <xcamel> PieSpyRom: hello

18:19 <PovAddict> xcamel: it was collecting for a while, now 9 edges

18:20 <xcamel> I seem to be missing a needed class..

18:20 <xcamel> which figures

18:20 <PovAddict> what class?

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18:24 <efc> btw x, .class files can also be found in .jar files

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18:33 <KathrynM> Mornin'

18:33 <Tank_Master> hey

18:33 <Tank_Master> afternoon

18:34 <wdsmia> *lo KM

18:34 <KathrynM> grumble grumble....  I strongly dislike monday mornings.

18:34 <PriitM_> it's night right now

18:34 <PriitM_> :>

18:34 <Tank_Master> still daylight here

18:35 <Tank_Master> 3:33pm

18:35 <PriitM_> 1.35am

18:35 <PriitM_> we got streetlights

18:35 <PovAddict> 9pm and still a li'l bit of light outside - fucking time change

18:35 <wdsmia> asks PovAddict to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

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18:37 <KathrynM> &weather Ulsan Korea

18:37 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 39°F / 4°C | Humidity: 56% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017hPa | Conditions: Unknown | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 5:00 PM KST; Overcast. High:41 F. / 5 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:39 F. / 4 C.; Chance of Rain. High:41 F. / 5 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:37 F. / 3 C.; Chance of Rain. High:41 F. / 5 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:35 F. / 2 C.;

18:38 <KathrynM> Weather info a little slow to be updated...  I'm assuming that's 5pm yesterday as 5pm today hasn't happened yet

18:39 <Tank_Master> :P

18:39 <PriitM_> &weather tallinn

18:39 <Romulus> PriitM_: Temperature: 30°F / -1°C | Humidity: 69% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h | Updated: 1:20 AM EET; Overcast. High:32 F. / 0 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:26 F. / -3 C.; Partly Cloudy. High:32 F. / 0 C.; Chance of Snow. Low:26 F. / -3 C.; Chance of Rain. High:39 F. / 4 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:33 F. / 1 C.;

18:39 <PriitM_> well this was updated 19 minutes ago

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18:58 <KathrynM> I'd give up my left hand for a clothes dryer.

18:58 <KathrynM> Guarenteed way to wake up is putting on cold and wet undies.

18:59 * PovAddict gets knife

18:59 <KathrynM> sad part....  i did laundry on Friday NIGHT

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19:00 <xcamel> still not having much luck with it..

19:00 <xcamel> PieSpyRom: hello

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19:05 <KathrynM> Laters all.  Hi ho.  Hi ho.  It's off to .......  well you know the rest.

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19:25 <xcamel> PieSpyRom: hello

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19:35 <xcamel> PieSpyRom: hello

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19:47 <flight16> hi

20:06 <xcamel> PieSpyRom: hello

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20:07 <CoderForLife> I'm going to drop off for the evening - cya folks

20:08 <Tank_Master> gn

20:11 <efc> this is kinda cute..

20:11 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Puppy Vs. Robot! Epic Battle For Territorial Domination! (at

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20:19 <xcamel> lol - GAO report - average price paid 4th quarter of '07 per barrel of oil == $64.20

20:20 <xcamel> $80-$100 it total Bravo Sierra

20:20 <xcamel> er... 'is' even

20:22 <efc> average royalty paid for drilling on US land is probably 10 cents a barrel

20:23 <xcamel> how many billion sitting in ANWAR?

20:24 <xcamel> Bakken and Torquay Formations - Saskatchewan, North Dakota, South Datkota, Montana and Manitoba - 100 billion barrels

20:25 <xcamel> least..

20:25 <efc> Exxon would probably up the ante to 11 cents a barrel

20:25 <efc> There was some accounting scandel with that, they are paying like 10% of what they were supposed to

20:25 <xcamel> back during 'bush 41'

20:26 <xcamel> and a bunch of clinton - to his buddies..

20:27 <efc> Then we give them all these mega tax breaks on top of that

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20:49 <xcamel> &weather 12074

20:49 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 26.9F / -2.8C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 30.17in / 1021.6hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows around 16. North winds 5 to 10 mph.; Monday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the mid 30s. North winds 5 to 10 mph.; Monday Night - Mostly clear in the evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Lows around 19. North winds 5 to 10 (1 more message)

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20:56 <xcamel> &more

20:56 <Romulus> xcamel: mph in the evening... becoming light and variable.;

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20:58 <Tank_Master> crap

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20:58 <Tank_Master> thnk god ;)

20:58 <xcamel> lol..

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21:16 <xcamel> PieSpyRom: hello

21:24 <xcamel> PieSpyRom: hello

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22:25 <MTughan> /slap PieSpyRom

22:25 * MTughan bashes PieSpyRom with a suspicious mIRC 6.01

22:28 <PovAddict> "light" imp WUs might be coming

22:28 * MTughan unsuspends IMP

22:28 <PovAddict> well, it's a damn slow image, but fairly easy to split (for now!)

22:29 <PovAddict>

22:29 <Romulus> <> (at

22:29 <PovAddict> he came telling about how it took 40 hours

22:29 <MTughan> Nice.

22:29 <MTughan> How big would you render it?

22:30 <PovAddict> I want to try making a bigger-resolution image, with area lights (more slowness to add), in less time than that :)

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22:31 <PovAddict> 283KB RAM usage

22:32 <MTughan> Pretty low for BOINC.

22:32 <PovAddict> Smallest Alloc:                  20 bytes

22:32 <PovAddict> Largest  Alloc:               38416 bytes

22:32 <PovAddict> Peak memory used:            356693 bytes

22:32 <Romulus> We'll find out the replacement for repeat though (could be monday)

22:33 <PovAddict> see my bottom post

22:33 <Romulus> <> (at

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