IRC logs of #boinc for Friday, 2008-02-01

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00:49 <Soul_keeper> how come drinking tea just makes me more thirsty ?

01:04 <efc> Hot or iced?

01:09 <Soul_keeper> hot

01:09 <Tank_Master> cool

01:10 <Soul_keeper> i can drink a gallon every hour and i'm still thirsty

01:10 <Tank_Master> its good for the soul

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01:14 <Tank_Master> wb bad

01:14 <Bad_At_Home> thanks

01:14 <Soul_keeper> bla

01:15 <Bad_At_Home> my quad is on its way home

01:15 <Tank_Master> lol

01:15 <Tank_Master> nice

01:15 <Tank_Master> when you gettin it up n runnin?

01:15 <Bad_At_Home> ?

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01:16 <Bad_At_Home> hi Wabbit

01:16 <Wabbit98> hello

01:16 <Bad_At_Home> what should i join abc

01:16 <Tank_Master> hey

01:16 <Tank_Master> 674bit ABC and 64bit TSP

01:16 <Tank_Master> lol

01:16 <Wabbit98> hehe

01:16 <Tank_Master> err, ment 64bit ABC ;)

01:16 <Wabbit98> learn your ABCs and 123s

01:16 <Bad_At_Home> 50 50 ok

01:17 <Bad_At_Home> \123 tsp it rymies

01:17 <Wabbit98> is the hokey pokey really what its all about

01:17 <Wabbit98> there should be a BOINC project for that

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01:18 <Bad_At_Home> Wabbit if you see Mw over on tsp see if you can get him to up the 20 wu limit i lost work because of my isp

01:19 <Wabbit67> I will try

01:19 <Wabbit67> I hold little clout

01:19 <Bad_At_Home> thanx

01:19 <Wabbit67> beyond my pure sexuality

01:19 <Bad_At_Home> 40 or 60 on a x64 system is not to much

01:20 <Bad_At_Home> well nite all

01:20 <Tank_Master> thats funny, I still have work....

01:20 <Tank_Master> ;)

01:20 <Tank_Master> gn bad

01:21 <Wabbit67> TM SETI.USA better start producing in NQueens or be prepared to be stomped

01:21 <Tank_Master> heh, yeah...

01:22 <Wabbit67> also in Milkyway as well

01:22 <Tank_Master> r they still buggy as hell?

01:22 <Wabbit67> yeah

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02:53 <Tidus> well, i finally got a machine stable enough to be boincing on

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02:55 <Tidus> desti_T2: i got a question for ya

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02:59 <desti_T2> ya?

02:59 <Tidus> i noticed you're also in ##gnome, so you might be able to answer this question

03:00 <Tidus> i'm trying to get the grab handles that's attached to the left end of say the window list to be 'hidden'

03:00 <Tidus> but i'm clueless as to where to go about doing that

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03:04 <desti_T2> hmm...dunno

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03:34 <CoderForLife> ugh morning, but TGIF

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04:04 <clusty> moin boinckers

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04:27 <FreeLarry58> 2/1/2008 12:07:27 AM|yoyo@home|Message from server: Server can't open log file (../log_r094/cgi.log)

04:27 <FreeLarry58> on more than one machine

04:35 <CoderForLife> 35F, just wet this morning

04:36 <KathrynM> Evenin' all.

04:36 <CoderForLife> morning

04:37 <CoderForLife> so what's my Friday going to be like, KathrynM?

04:37 <KathrynM> If it was anything like mine, you'll be wanting to screaml.

04:45 <desti> 0_o

04:46 <clusty> KathrynM, whats so bad about yours?

04:47 <KathrynM> My brain is mush.  We have orientation tomorrow and we were practicing my lessons.  If I ever hear "The ants go marching" again I will scream.

04:48 * CoderForLife reviews the testimony, and decides to go back to bed

04:48 <clusty> whats that?

04:48 <KathrynM> a silly kids song

04:48 <clusty> some kiddo song?

04:48 <clusty> i know just the twinkle star thing

04:48 <clusty> :D

04:49 <KathrynM>

04:49 <Romulus> <> (at

04:49 <clusty> looks scary

04:49 <clusty> :D

04:50 <KathrynM> it even worse when you have to act along with it.

04:50 * KathrynM screams

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04:51 <clusty> i dont think i have the patience to deal with kiddos

04:51 <KathrynM> Sometimes I wonder if I do :)

04:52 <KathrynM> My one class finished their science posters though.  They turned out great.

04:52 <clusty> did you ever snap at them?

04:52 <KathrynM> oh yeah

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04:55 <clusty> i first "taught" in second year of college

04:55 <clusty> was a TA for some coding class

04:56 <clusty> i was going almost hystherical when ppl would not get it

04:56 <clusty> :D

04:56 <clusty> after 1 year of that i just became caustic :D

04:56 <KathrynM> I don't even want to think about TA-ing.  I'd rather forget all those papers I graded.

04:57 <clusty> my problem was that i was taking it way to personal

04:57 <clusty> if some guys were getting bad grades i saw it as my failure to make them understand

04:57 <KathrynM> it's easy to fall into that

04:57 <clusty> ...not them not care a wee bit

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05:00 <Tidus> anybody still alive?

05:00 <KathrynM> Define alive?

05:01 <Tidus> capable of putting text on the screen in some kind of intelligible manner

05:01 <Tidus> which obviously you just accomplished

05:02 <Tidus> i finally got one machine stable enough to run WCG full time

05:03 <KathrynM> lol

05:04 <Tidus> athlon64 3500 @ 2.6ghz with 512mb ram

05:11 <CoderForLife> lkj ujhkl lj

05:20 <clusty> stupid boinc client..................

05:21 <clusty> why ohh why does it not want to autoupdate

05:32 <Tidus> hi CoderForLife

05:35 <CoderForLife> hello Tidus

05:35 <Tidus> i finally got a machine stable enough to run WCG full time

05:35 <CoderForLife> hey nice congrats

05:36 <Tidus> my athlon64 3500 (2.2 stock, at 2.6 currently)

05:36 <CoderForLife> very nice

05:38 <Tidus> CoderForLife: receive the privmsg?

05:40 <CoderForLife> uh-huh

05:46 <xcamel_away> boo

05:54 <CoderForLife> off to w@#%

05:54 <CoderForLife> bye

06:28 <hawmps_> 'lo

06:31 * KathrynM gives webshots' uploader a dirty look. Why must it always crash firefox?

06:32 <KathrynM> hello hawmps_ btw

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06:36 <hawmps> 'lo Kat

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07:04 <hawmps> &weather 12020

07:05 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 25.3F / -3.7C | Humidity: 66% | Pressure: 30.28in / 1025.3hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 6.0mph / 9.7km/h ; Today - Freezing rain. Sleet with snow likely this morning...then rain with a chance of sleet this afternoon. Rain may be heavy at times this afternoon. Snow and sleet accumulation around an inch. Ice accumulation around one quarter of an inch. Highs in (2 more messages)

07:05 <hawmps> &more

07:05 <Romulus> hawmps: the mid 30s. East winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Tonight - Rain in the evening...then a chance of snow or rain showers after midnight. Rain may be heavy at times in the evening. Total accumulation of 1 to 3 inches. Lows in the lower 30s. Southeast winds around 10 mph...becoming southwest 10 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph after midnight. Chance of precipitation near 100 (1 more message)

07:05 <hawmps> &more

07:05 <Romulus> hawmps: percent.; Saturday - Partly sunny. Highs around 40. West winds around 20 mph with gusts up to 35 mph...decreasing to 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph in the afternoon.; Winter Weather Advisory for Saratoga County in effect until 7:00 PM EST on February 01, 2008;

07:05 <hawmps> yuk

07:06 <wdsmia> &weather 50319

07:06 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 12F / -11C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 30.08in / 1019hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. High in the upper 20s. Northwest wind near 5 mph shifting to the southeast in the afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Low in the lower 20s. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Partly sunny. High in the lower (1 more message)

07:06 <wdsmia> &more

07:06 <Romulus> wdsmia: 30s. West wind 5 to 10 mph.;

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08:17 <hawmps> just gonna be ugly...

08:21 <clusty> any1 participating in the climate prediction ?

08:22 <clusty> i just got a WU that is gonna expire in 2 years

08:22 <KathrynM> Not currently, but I did about a year ago

08:22 <KathrynM> Sounds about right though.

08:22 <clusty> and is supposed to take months of time

08:22 <clusty> what the hell...

08:22 <KathrynM> yup that's CPDN :)

08:22 <clusty> CPDN?

08:22 <clusty> whats that?

08:23 <KathrynM> Climate Prediction Dot Net

08:25 <clusty> a bit too unrewarding for my taste, DETACH

08:27 <KathrynM> But you get credits as you go along.

08:27 <KathrynM> Search their forums for information about trickles.

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08:30 * hawmps has 2MM cpdn credits - then gave it up...

08:30 <hawmps> too many crashes

08:31 <KathrynM> I only crashed one SAP.

08:31 <KathrynM> Never had any real problems with the production CPDN site.

08:31 <KathrynM> Beta, of course, is a different story.

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08:38 <BadBarbarian> Mornin

08:38 <KathrynM> Mornin'

08:39 <BadBarbarian> %weather 86023

08:39 <hawmps> oops..

08:39 <hawmps> apply more coffee...

08:39 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86023

08:39 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 25F / -3.9C | Humidity: 56% | Pressure: in / hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 2mph / 3.2km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy in the morning then becoming partly cloudy. Highs around 33 on the North Rim to around 52 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows around 17 on the North Rim to around 25 along the Colorado River. Light (1 more message)

08:39 <BadBarbarian> &more

08:39 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: winds.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy. A 10 percent chance of snow showers in the afternoon. No snow accumulation. Highs around 33 on the North Rim to around 52 along the Colorado River. Light winds.;

08:40 <BadBarbarian> more  coffee

08:41 <BadBarbarian> its still dark here lol

08:41 <KathrynM> It's dark here too.  But almost time for bed.

08:41 * KathrynM grumbles... gotta work tomorrow.

08:41 <PovAddict> Microsoft bought Yahoo

08:41 <Romulus> let me have any!

08:41 <KathrynM> Are you serious?

08:42 <PovAddict> or maybe it didn't, but it offered to do so, a lot more seriously than the last attempt

08:42 <desti>;_ylt=Am.awFPnDJ1nr.EdQUZhALG7YWsA/*

08:42 <Romulus> <> (at

08:44 <BadBarbarian> i like you comment yesterday about all us people living in the tundra Kathrynm

08:44 <KathrynM> :-)

08:45 <PovAddict> from ##konfabulator: <Drevor> so guys ... now that yahoo widgets is history .. any idea what to do next? -_-

08:45 <PovAddict> (on the probably-correct assumption that Microsoft will say "Konfabulator? ah we don't need that, sidebar gadgets are better *fires widget team*")

08:45 <BadBarbarian> ms oftered 60% more than current value

08:46 <PovAddict> tell Yahoo I'll buy their shares if they reject the offer

08:46 <KathrynM> MS ruined hotmail.  I hate to see what they could do to yahoo's mail.   After gmail, yahoo's spam filters are the best I've seen.

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08:55 <hawmps> &quote stock YHOO

08:55 <Romulus> hawmps: Error: The command "quote" is available in the QuoteGrabs and Stock plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "quote".

08:55 <hawmps> &stock quote YHOO

08:55 <PovAddict> heh

08:55 <Romulus> hawmps: The current price of YHOO is 19.18, as of 4:00pm EST.  A change of 0.00 from the last business day.

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08:58 <CoderForLife> morning hawmps POvAddict

08:58 <hawmps> 'lo Don

08:58 <CoderForLife> re-morning KathrynM

08:59 <FreeLarry58> late evening all

08:59 <CoderForLife> sOrry abOut the large O, PovAddict

08:59 <FreeLarry58> PovAddict side please

08:59 <CoderForLife> hey FreeLarry58

08:59 <FreeLarry58> morn don

09:00 * FreeLarry58 is still trying to sleep

09:00 <FreeLarry58> and not having much luck

09:03 <FreeLarry58> &nn all pills finally feeling like they taking affect

09:03 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

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09:15 <CoderForLife> back to w@#%

09:15 * CoderForLife waves a Hollerith card

09:20 * wdsmia_w waves back with a dozen Ultrium tapes

09:20 <Romulus> yes and i still had the question comes up what about WU's that have not just tested it on the cost of energy

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09:47 <KathrynM> time for bed.  Gotta do the work thing tomorrow.  Only good part about it is 2 hours of overtime.

09:49 <desti> gn8

09:58 <hawmps> starting to come down pretty hard now...

09:59 * PovAddict attempts to be productive

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10:14 <hawmps> ditto

10:16 <Tank_Master> weather time!

10:17 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

10:17 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 39.5F / 4.2C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014.1hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Showers. Highs 40 to 45. West wind 5 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Showers likely in the evening...then rain after midnight. Snow level 1000 feet. Snow accumulation up to 1 inch. Lows around 35. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Rain. (1 more message)

10:17 <Tank_Master> &more

10:17 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Snow level 1200 feet. Snow accumulation up to 1 inch. Highs around 40. South wind 5 to 15 mph.;

10:21 <hawmps> going back and forth between snow and frz rain

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11:01 <PovAddict> heh

11:01 <PovAddict> "There comes a time in every young geeks life where he resolves to locate the designer of the motherboard they've just been installing and string them up from the nearest tall object."

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11:13 <wdsmia_w> Time to take the tape dump off site

11:15 <wdsmia_w> bbl

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11:45 <hawmps> grab PovAddict

11:46 <hawmps> &grab PovAddict

11:46 <Romulus> hawmps: The operation succeeded.

11:46 <hawmps> &quotegrabs list

11:46 <Romulus> hawmps: (quotegrabs list [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns a list of shortened quotes that have been grabbed for <nick> as well as the id of each quote. These ids can be used to get the full quote. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.

11:46 <hawmps> &quotegrabs list PovAddict

11:46 <Romulus> hawmps: #1: "There comes a time in every young geeks...

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12:00 <hawmps> &rss boinc 1

12:00 <Romulus> hawmps: BOINC news Jan 31, 2008 <>

12:01 <Romulus> Announcement from my owner (hawmps): #boinc boinc

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12:47 <CoderForLife> plink

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13:01 <hawmps> sporked

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13:37 <hawmps> ice really building up now...

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13:50 <sacarde_> hi

13:50 <sacarde_> do you know if exist a channel for italian ?

13:50 <sacarde_> about boinc

13:51 <PovAddict> this channel is all we have

13:52 <sacarde_> I run in my pc boinc

13:52 <Saenger> probably, but as i don't know anything about italian, i do not have the faintest idea where to look for

13:52 <Saenger> but probably a team chan, like seti.italy or such

13:55 <sacarde_> I  run SETI and boincsimap

13:55 <sacarde_> in my pc powerpc

13:55 <Romulus> Dude, watch more po.. okay, I'll let Eric know that DA is never firmly attached today..

13:55 <PovAddict> shush Romulus

14:19 <hawmps> sacarde_: channel has a translator

14:19 <Romulus> drinking in public is legal in A.S.

14:27 <hawmps> &rss boincstats 1

14:27 <Romulus> hawmps: 2008-01-13: BOINCstats - All new stats!! <>

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14:48 <Romulus> New news from boincstats: 2008-02-01: BOINCstats - Results of the Top Team Stat in January 2008

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14:57 <MTughan> &any "yoyo[RKN]"

14:57 <Romulus> MTughan: yoyo[RKN] was last seen in #boinc 22 hours, 22 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: *** yoyo[RKN] has quit IRC ("")

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14:57 <MTughan> Hmm... yoyo's gone back down again. Scheduler's down.

14:58 <TMatWork> &any  yoyo[RKN]

14:58 <Romulus> (any [<channel>] [--user <name>] [<nick>]) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen doing. This includes any form of activity, instead of just PRIVMSGs. If <nick> isn't specified, returns the last activity seen in <channel>. If --user is specified, looks up name in the user database and returns the last time user was active in <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if (1 more message)

14:58 <Saenger> he's put all boinc stuff down

14:58 <TMatWork> &more

14:58 <Romulus> TMatWork: the message isn't sent on the channel itself.

14:58 <MTughan> TMatWork: You need the quotes, or the square quotes are interpreted as a subcommand.

14:58 <TMatWork> ahh

14:58 <MTughan> &echo Time is [time]

14:58 <Romulus> Time is 02:58 PM, February 01, 2008

14:58 <MTughan> Like that.

14:58 <TMatWork> so complicated

14:58 <Saenger>

14:58 <Romulus> <> (at

14:59 <MTughan> Thanks Saenger.

15:00 <Saenger> he should have put it in the news section

15:00 <MTughan> Unless he can't update that either.

15:01 <Saenger> that's a possibility, of course ;)

15:04 <MTughan> Hmm... Can the BOINC client have only one Manager connected to it at once?

15:04 <MTughan> Or the BOINC core client isn't running... >_>

15:05 <PovAddict> MTughan: no, you can have any amount of "clients" to the "RPC server" inside the core client

15:05 <PovAddict> for example, my forum signature connects to the client while I have the manager running :)

15:05 <MTughan> For some reason, the core client shut down.

15:06 <MTughan> Not on my Mac, I would have noticed that very quickly. On my Fedora machine.

15:06 <MTughan> Could it have been caused by the fact that I had it running in an SSH session, and then that session was disconnected when I put the laptop to sleep?

15:07 <PovAddict> yes that could be...

15:07 <PovAddict> use --daemon when starting core client :)

15:07 <MTughan> I just did "./run_client &"

15:07 <PovAddict> exactly, that uses the shell job control

15:07 <MTughan> Seems to be working, SSH session closed.

15:08 <MTughan> Hey, Leopard comes with built-in VNC.

15:15 <PovAddict> agh, Einstein@Home requires RAC to post on their forums

15:15 <PovAddict> I'll have to run a WU

15:15 <MTughan> What about E@H? I have a few credits there.

15:16 <PovAddict> &echo but there's like [math convert [[math convert 3.25 MiB bytes]*14] bytes MiB] MB to download

15:16 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: Ihavenoidea,PovAddict. is not a valid unit.

15:16 <PovAddict> lolwtf

15:16 <PovAddict> &echo but there's like [math convert [math calc [math convert 3.25 MiB bytes]*14] bytes MiB] MB to download

15:16 <Romulus> but there's like 45.5 MB to download

15:17 <MTughan> Is there a problem with E@H?

15:17 <PovAddict> no, I wasn't attached at all

15:18 <MTughan> What did you want to post though?

15:18 <PovAddict> I just attached, to crunch a single WU, to get enough RAC, to post on the forums

15:19 <PovAddict>

15:19 <Romulus> <> (at

15:20 <MTughan> What, the logo?

15:20 <PovAddict> no, my credits

15:20 <PovAddict> I do have credits (probably more than you :D), just haven't got any *recently*

15:20 <PovAddict> I have that forum limit they put

15:20 <PovAddict> hate*

15:21 <MTughan> No, I have more than you. I have 100K in E@H.

15:21 <PovAddict> !

15:21 <MTughan>

15:21 <Romulus> <$> (at

15:23 <PovAddict>

15:23 <Romulus> <> (at

15:24 <MTughan> So I have more credits in E@H than you have for any single project...

15:24 <MTughan> More in SETI than any other than CPDN...

15:24 <MTughan> And only 50K behind in overall.

15:26 <PovAddict> MTughan:

15:26 <Romulus> <> (at

15:27 <MTughan> So you're in more projects than me, I know.

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15:27 <MTughan> 'lo mw

15:27 <PovAddict> yeah I'm more spread

15:27 <MTughan> I'm still only 50K behind you.

15:27 <mweltin> greetings

15:27 <PovAddict> 7MB left for E@H

15:27 <PovAddict> hey mweltin

15:28 <mweltin> Hey Pov.

15:28 <mweltin> glad you are here.  I saw a guy say he fixed a problem by running bin/start --cron.  I never use the cron switch, what does it do?

15:28 <PovAddict> it runs periodic tasks

15:29 <PovAddict> you should have a line for "bin/start --cron" on your crontab file

15:29 <mweltin> my tasks seem to be running without it.  am I kidding myself?

15:29 <MTughan> PovAddict: I'd run DepSpid, but they seem to take a long time and start to slow down the connection...

15:30 <PovAddict> mweltin: system's cron runs bin/start --cron every 5 minutes, the start script then runs anything that is left to run

15:31 <mweltin> ok, yes my crontab confirms that.

15:32 <mweltin> I'm getting a little out of touch with my project.  Have got busy with real life.

15:32 <mweltin> I have some people on the hook to do some developement, but I hvae not heard back from them.

15:33 <mweltin> Jobs suck.

15:33 * xcamel_away is back.

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15:34 <xcamel> re-hi

15:34 <mweltin> hey x

15:35 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

15:36 <mweltin> and for those that don't know yet, I saw a hammer head shark two days ago!

15:37 <xcamel> 'lo Mike, mweltin

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15:40 <mweltin> I find eveyones lack of enthusiam about me seeing a hammer head shark shocking.

15:40 <xcamel> looks like the rss plugin might actually be working

15:40 <mweltin> but I guess this is not the place for that discussion.

15:40 <xcamel> where did you see it?

15:40 <PovAddict> mweltin: did you see latest Microsoft offer to Yahoo?

15:40 <mweltin> rss plugin for what?

15:40 <xcamel> boinc news and boincstats news

15:41 <mweltin> PovAddict no I don't get much news.

15:41 <xcamel> it just provides headline/link

15:41 <PovAddict> mweltin: Microsoft offers 45 billion to buy Yahoo

15:41 <mweltin> I'm looking for a rss writer/reader for a project I'm doing.

15:41 <mweltin> 45 BILLION!?!?!?!

15:41 <xcamel> stupid offer..

15:41 <PovAddict> they're desperate to kill Google

15:41 <xcamel> &quote stock YHOO

15:41 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: The command "quote" is available in the QuoteGrabs and Stock plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "quote".

15:42 <mweltin> I wonder what they think they will gain.

15:42 <xcamel> &stock quote YHOO

15:42 <Romulus> xcamel: The current price of YHOO is 28.58, as of 3:27pm EST.  A change of +9.40 from the last business day.

15:42 <mweltin> does stock work for currency exchange?

15:42 <mweltin> &stock quote USDJPY

15:42 <Romulus> mweltin: Error: I couldn't find a listing for USDJPY

15:43 <PovAddict> no, you can use:

15:43 <PovAddict> &currency convert USD JPY

15:43 <Romulus> PovAddict: 1.00 usd = 106.55 jpy

15:44 <MTughan> How come DepSpid won't give me any work...

15:45 <zombie67> cause there is none

15:45 <MTughan> There is according to their site.

15:45 <MTughan>

15:45 <Romulus> <> (at

15:45 <MTughan> 43,826 ready to send.

15:45 <zombie67> I don't think that page is accurate

15:45 <zombie67> look at the front page

15:46 <MTughan> Oh...

15:48 <MTughan> According to their front page, that could be phase 2 tasks. They only have the phase 1 app working, phase 2's in dev.

15:50 <zombie67> yeah.  but phase 2 will be on a different server.

15:50 <PovAddict> different project URL

15:51 <zombie67> right

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16:28 <KathrynM> Mornin' all

16:28 <zombie67> hi

16:29 <mweltin> KathrynM!

16:29 <BadBarbarian> Mornin Kat

16:29 <mweltin> hi

16:29 <BadBarbarian> hello Mw

16:29 <KathrynM> Hi mweltin.

16:29 <mweltin> hey bad

16:29 <KathrynM> Hey Markus, my kids finished their posters.

16:29 <mweltin> KathrynM, thats great!  How did it come out?

16:29 <zombie67> mweltin:  down to 68 GA tasks!

16:29 <KathrynM> awesome.

16:30 <KathrynM>

16:30 <Romulus> Title: ESL Adventures (at

16:31 <BadBarbarian> Very Nice Kat

16:31 <KathrynM> thanks :)

16:31 <KathrynM> I'm really proud of them.

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16:33 <mweltin> cute kids

16:33 <KathrynM> Yeah.  They are.  1st and 2nd graders.

16:33 <mweltin> I'm checking out the plant project page now.

16:33 <PovAddict> we all admire your patience

16:33 <BadBarbarian> Mweltin my isp is realy flaky right now would you please up the 20 bf wu limit i hate running out of work lol

16:34 <PovAddict> teaching 1st graders needs "some" patience, afaik...

16:34 <KathrynM> LOL PovAddict

16:34 <PovAddict> amirite?

16:34 <KathrynM> You are very right.

16:34 <KathrynM> And I do try.

16:34 <Romulus> Ah. I don't think I've actually tested that myself.

16:35 <KathrynM> You should try it sometimes rommie

16:35 <mweltin> sweet project

16:35 <KathrynM> Thanks Markus.  The kids had a great time doing it.

16:35 <KathrynM> They fight over who gets to water the plants.

16:36 <mweltin> BadBarbarian what is it set at now, I had for you to run out of work too.

16:36 <PovAddict> E@H 6.9%

16:36 <mweltin> have you ever seen the fish training experiment?

16:36 <PovAddict> damn 24-h unit...

16:36 <BadBarbarian> 20 per core and lol i have 1 core

16:36 <KathrynM> PovAddict

16:36 <mweltin> its easy for 1st graders

16:37 <KathrynM>

16:37 <PovAddict> optimized app?

16:37 <KathrynM> I've not seen it done.  But I've probably read about it.

16:37 <KathrynM> yeah.

16:37 <KathrynM> Check the NC forum

16:37 <mweltin> KathrynM its a conditioning experiment.  Shin a flash light on the surface of a fish tank just before you feed them.

16:38 <mweltin> KathrynM obviously you need a control tank too

16:39 <mweltin> KathrynM it takes a while but the fish will repsond to the flash light.

16:39 <KathrynM> Yeah.  I trained rats as an undergrad.

16:39 <KathrynM> I just don't have a real great track record with keeping fish alive :)

16:39 <PovAddict> lol

16:39 <mweltin> lol

16:39 <desti> 0_0

16:39 <KathrynM> I've sent countless goldfish to fishy heaven

16:40 <MTughan> Whoa... I just got 500 credits in RS!

16:40 <KathrynM> Woot!

16:40 <MTughan> Compared to the fact that I got about 200 credits yesterday, that's huge...

16:40 <Romulus> ah well at the ranch dressing..... I'm getting close with the home directory for boinc crashes when I run in my router? i plugged my malfunctioning desktop straight into the BOINCstats database.

16:40 <MTughan> Yesterday was bad...

16:41 <PovAddict> Rommie you did what??

16:41 <KathrynM> lol

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16:42 <MTughan> 'lo yoyo

16:42 <MTughan> How's the server situation?

16:44 <mweltin> YOYO

16:45 <c0dewarrior> 'lo

16:45 <xcamel> 'lo cw

16:46 <MTughan> 'lo c0dey

16:46 <PovAddict> I think I'll close IRC for a while

16:46 <MTughan> Bye Pov.

16:46 <mweltin> later PovAddict

16:46 <c0dewarrior> howdy MTughan

16:46 <KathrynM> Later Povaddict

16:46 <zombie67> hi yoyo[RKN]

16:46 <zombie67> c ya

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16:46 <MTughan> lol

16:46 <yoyo[RKN]> hi

16:48 <xcamel> still getting ice buildup..

16:50 <MTughan> Hey, everything at yoyo seems to be up...

16:50 <MTughan> Well, most of it.

16:50 <MTughan> Everything except the feeder and crunch assimilator.

16:51 <MTughan> But still no updates... Well, at least it's getting there.

16:52 <CoderForLife> hello all

16:52 <MTughan> 'lo CFL

16:52 <CoderForLife> hiya Michael

16:53 <CoderForLife> how's MTughan?

16:53 <CoderForLife> hello xcamel

16:53 <MTughan> Tired.

16:53 <MTughan> Although I did get a day off school.

16:53 <CoderForLife> and yoyo[RKN]

16:53 <CoderForLife> that's nice - snow?

16:54 <MTughan> At least 15cm, I'd say.

16:54 <MTughan> Overnight too.

16:54 <MTughan> 15 roughly equals 6 inches.

16:54 <CoderForLife> that's a tad bit

16:54 * CoderForLife whips out his metric conversion slide rule

16:54 <MTughan> And still falling...

16:55 <CoderForLife> and rising?

16:55 <MTughan> Yep. We cleared the driveway about 3 hours ago, covered again.

16:55 <CoderForLife> I'm all about energy conservation when it comes to driveway clearing

16:55 <KathrynM> mweltin, I just took another GA unit off your hands.  Just reported the last one in :)

16:55 <CoderForLife> I wait till it's done

16:56 <CoderForLife> re-hi KathrynM

16:56 <CoderForLife> &seen quail

16:56 <Romulus> CoderForLife: quail was last seen in #boinc 3 days, 14 hours, 59 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <quail> U.S. spy satellite expected to crash back to Earth soon >>>

16:56 <MTughan> Aha...

16:56 <Romulus> <> (at

16:56 <KathrynM> hiya CoderForLIfe

16:56 <MTughan> Winter storm warning for my region.

16:56 <CoderForLife> &seen Rookie_69

16:56 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Rookie_69 was last seen in #boinc 5 days, 18 hours, 12 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <Rookie_69> Nytol.

16:57 <CoderForLife> &seen efc

16:57 <Romulus> CoderForLife: efc was last seen in #boinc 15 hours, 52 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <efc> Hot or iced?

16:57 <CoderForLife> &seen ELGono

16:57 <Romulus> CoderForLife: ELGono was last seen in #boinc 3 days, 22 hours, 3 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <ELGono> if it's a resistor in the wronge place

16:58 <MTughan> There... Anywhere from 20-30cm was predicted for the day.

16:58 <MTughan> I think we can still reach that with ease.

16:58 <CoderForLife> yowsa

16:58 <MTughan> &math convert 20 cm to in

16:58 <Romulus> MTughan: 7.87401574803

16:59 <MTughan> &math convert 30 cm to in

16:59 <Romulus> MTughan: 11.811023622

16:59 <MTughan> 8-12"

17:00 <MTughan> What the... Another story from the CBC: federal employees are restricted from using their Blackberrys between 7PM and 7AM.

17:00 <MTughan> Apparently to reduce work stress. Uh huh.

17:01 <xcamel> now predicting 1/2-3/4" of ice in the "northcountry"

17:01 <MTughan> They're already the laziest people around, and they need to reduce their work "stress"...

17:01 <efc> They are restricted from doing any work from 7AM to 5PM

17:04 <MTughan> yoyo[RKN]: Do you have an ETA on when the yoyo server will be up, or is it just solving the daemon problems?

17:04 <yoyo[RKN]> server is up, fighting with some problems

17:05 <yoyo[RKN]> dont know what this means

17:05 <yoyo[RKN]> 01.02.2008 23:01:02|yoyo@home|Message from server: Server can't open log file (../log_r094/cgi.log)

17:05 <MTughan> Yeah, that's what I'm getting...

17:05 <MTughan> Is that in any log anywhere?

17:05 <MTughan> Might say what process is producing it.

17:06 <yoyo[RKN]> no

17:07 <MTughan> Maybe a search for cgi.log will turn up others. log_r094 looks like a name that can be incremented.

17:07 <Romulus> <PovAddict> (7-zip can extract them)

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17:10 <MTughan> Well, found where in the source it's looking for it...

17:10 <MTughan> sched/main.C, but not sure what file that gets compiled into.

17:10 <zombie67> too bad pov just left!

17:11 <MTughan> It does look like a program though, as the function is int main(int, char**).

17:11 <xcamel> sd card recovery programs generally suck

17:12 <MTughan> Hmm... yoyo[RKN]: Do you have a program called cgi on your server?

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17:12 <yoyo[RKN]> it is the upload cgi script

17:12 <MTughan> I think that's where it's coming from.

17:13 <xcamel> [Golf LOL] >> Man on golf cart gets DUI at FBR Open

17:13 * xcamel hates golf

17:13 <MTughan> rofl

17:16 <MTughan> yoyo[RKN]: See anything?

17:16 <yoyo[RKN]> just wait

17:16 <MTughan> K.

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17:21 <MTughan> Wait a minute... yoyo[RKN]: That's printed when it can't redirect stderr to that file!

17:22 <yoyo[RKN]> i created the cgi.log

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17:23 <MTughan> The file should be automatically created by the stream redirecting function though. I would think either Apache can't write to the directory, or it is that stderr can't be redirected.

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17:24 <MTughan> Oh, log file message is gone. "Fri Feb  1 17:24:09 2008|yoyo@home|Message from server: Server error: can't attach shared memory"

17:24 <yoyo[RKN]> jup, next fault

17:25 <MTughan> I'll leave you to that one, I don't know anything about shared mem.

17:27 <MTughan> Ah, I see where the log folder name came from... It's made from "log_" plus the hostname. r094 according to the 403 I just got from the server status.

17:28 <yoyo[RKN]> yes

17:28 <MTughan> Sorry if I'm distracting you...

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17:45 <xcamel> Distracted? Only of you're a 6'2" 24 year old buck naked blond who just walked into the room...

17:46 <MTughan> Something like that...

17:46 <xcamel> [=)

17:46 <efc> What ?!

17:46 <Romulus> its "communicating with project"

17:48 <xcamel> now thats distracting...

17:48 <xcamel> distracting

17:50 <xcamel> &marklov blonde

17:50 <Romulus> I don't have a clue, xcamel.

17:51 <xcamel> &markov blonde

17:51 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain.  Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.

17:51 <xcamel> lol

17:52 <MTughan> &markov blond

17:52 <Romulus> MTughan: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain.  Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.

17:52 <MTughan> &markov blonde

17:52 <Romulus> MTughan: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain.  Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.

17:52 <MTughan> Nice...

17:53 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:53 <MTughan> 'lo Doug

17:53 <xcamel> Hi Doug

17:54 <wdsmia> tgif

17:54 <MTughan> Yeah... And I didn't have any school today either. :D

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17:59 <yoyo[RKN]> MTughan: ?

17:59 <MTughan> Yeah?

17:59 <yoyo[RKN]> get you now an error?

17:59 <MTughan> One sec...

17:59 <MTughan> Worked.

17:59 <yoyo[RKN]> ;)

17:59 <MTughan> Nice work.

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18:04 <xcamel> &weather 12074

18:04 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 30.4F / -0.9C | Humidity: 96% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014.1hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; This Afternoon - Sleet...rain and snow. Little or no snow and sleet accumulation. Additional ice accumulation of up to one tenth of an inch. Near steady temperature around 30. Southeast winds around 10 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of (2 more messages)

18:04 <xcamel> &more

18:04 <Romulus> xcamel: precipitation near 100 percent.; Tonight - Rain and sleet in the evening...then rain and snow likely after midnight. Lows in the lower 30s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph... becoming west 10 to 15 mph after midnight. Gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Saturday - Partly sunny. Highs around 40. West winds around 20 mph with gusts up to 35 mph...decreasing to 10 to 15 mph with (1 more message)

18:04 <xcamel> &more

18:04 <Romulus> xcamel: gusts up to 25 mph in the afternoon.; Freezing Rain Advisory for Saratoga County in effect until 7:00 PM EST on February 01, 2008;

18:04 <MTughan> So you're getting freezing rain warnings too...

18:04 <xcamel> ...just ducky

18:05 <xcamel> lots of it..

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18:05 <wdsmia> &weather 50319

18:05 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 33F / 1C | Humidity: 66% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A 20 percent chance of snow after midnight. Low in the lower 20s. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Partly sunny. High in the lower 30s. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the northwest in the afternoon.; Saturday Night - (1 more message)

18:05 <wdsmia> &more

18:05 <Romulus> wdsmia: Partly cloudy. Low 15 to 20. West wind near 5 mph shifting to the south after midnight.;

18:05 <MTughan> All snow right now, but that

18:05 <MTughan> ..'s bound to turn to ice soon enough...

18:06 * xcamel checks greater toronto radar..

18:06 <MTughan> Actually, I haven't seen that... You have a link?

18:06 <wdsmia> *lo Glenn -1

18:06 <xcamel> nice slug of snow moving in..

18:07 <Rookie_68> Hi, Doug.

18:07 <xcamel> Hi Glenn

18:07 <Rookie_68> Hi, Jay.

18:07 <xcamel> MTughan: my radar is a paid site..

18:07 <MTughan> Oh, okay. I'll see what else I can find.

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18:08 <Soul_keeper>

18:08 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - America: From Freedom to Fascism (part 1 of 11) (at

18:09 <MTughan> That is one big storm... No wonder we got so much snow overnight.

18:10 <xcamel> problem with that Soul_keeper, is that they dont have clue one what 'Fascism' is..

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18:11 <Rookie_69>

18:11 <Romulus> Title: The Weather Network - Satellite and Radar Maps - Greater Toronto Area (at

18:11 <Soul_keeper> sure they do

18:11 <xcamel> environment canada has freebie radar too..

18:12 <MTughan> That's the one I found.

18:15 <xcamel> it's not very good

18:27 <zombie67> look at that!  yoyo WUs!

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18:41 <MTughan> Dinner time...

18:41 <xcamel> chinese veggies and chicken...

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18:49 <Rookie_69> &weather yhz

18:49 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 27°F / -3°C | Humidity: 64% | Pressure: 30.59in / 1036hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h | Updated: 7:00 PM AST; Tonight - Increasing cloudiness. Ice pellets mixed with snow beginning near midnight changing to freezing rain overnight. Rain along the coast. Wind becoming east 30 km/h (19 mph) this evening then southeast 40 km/h (25 mph) gusting (2 more messages)

18:49 <Rookie_69> &more

18:49 <Romulus> Rookie_69: to 60 km/h (37 mph) overnight. Low -4C(24F) with temperature rising to 0C(32F) by morning.; Saturday - Rain at times heavy ending in the afternoon then cloudy. Amount 25 mm(1.0 in). Wind southeast 40 km/h (25 mph) gusting to 60 km/h (37 mph) becoming south 50 km/h (31 mph) gusting to 80 km/h (50 mph) then southwest 40 km/h (25 mph) gusting to 60 km/h (37 mph) early in the afternoon. High 7C(45F) (1 more message)

18:50 <Rookie_69> &more

18:50 <Romulus> Rookie_69: with temperature falling to 4C(39F) in the afternoon. Saturday night clearing early in the evening. Wind west 40 km/h (25 mph) gusting to 60 km/h (37 mph) becoming northwest 20 km/h (12 mph) near midnight. Low -5C(23F).; Sunday - A mix of sun and cloud. High 0C(32F).;

18:52 <xcamel> looks nice, nasty mess.

18:53 <Rookie_69> Hopefully more rain than snow.

18:54 <Rookie_69> I should move the van out of that sink hole just in case.

19:00 <MTughan> Cool... Off to see Sweeny Todd.

19:00 <MTughan> Sweeney, I think it is actually...

19:01 <MTughan> Anyway, I'll bbl

19:03 <Rookie_69> Roxy Roller???

19:06 <Rookie_69> Oh. He meant the movie, not the band.

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19:11 <xcamel> Johnny Depricated..

19:19 <Rookie_69> Kind of liked him in Ed Wood...

19:20 <xcamel> pirates was good - but he's another one who should just shaddap and act.

19:20 <xcamel> no one cares about his wacky politics

19:27 <xcamel> IIRC.. Ed Wood was funny as hell..

19:33 * yoyo[RKN] thinks that uploading works now

19:33 <Rookie_69> Cashmere sweaters and cardboard scenery.

19:36 <zombie67> yep!

19:37 <xcamel> and a very old Bella Lagosi

19:38 <Rookie_69> Actually that guy from Space 1999...

19:39 <Rookie_69> Martin Landau.

19:39 <xcamel> ML is in allot of stuff..

19:40 <xcamel> er was..

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19:42 * Rookie_69 wanders off to bed.

19:42 <Rookie_69> Nytol.

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19:44 <xcamel> 'lo BB

19:54 * efc owns Plan 9

19:56 <xcamel> ditto.. doesn't everyone..

19:56 <xcamel> off to watch some scifi..

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21:39 <PovAddict> KathrynM: now testing Einstein power app

21:40 <Tank_Master> ?

21:40 <PovAddict> so far I see ETA going up (on the workunit that had already started), that makes me suspect it's slower... :-\

21:40 <Tank_Master> ouch

21:45 <wdsmia> lol

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22:40 <wdsmia> &weather 50319

22:40 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 29F / -2C | Humidity: 75% | Pressure: 29.99in / 1015hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Not as cold. Low in the mid 20s. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Partly sunny. High in the lower 30s. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the northwest in the afternoon.; Saturday Night - Partly cloudy. Low 15 to (1 more message)

22:41 <wdsmia> &more

22:41 <Romulus> wdsmia: 20. West wind near 5 mph shifting to the south after midnight.;

22:53 <MTughan> Well... That's one of the more bloody films I've seen...

22:55 * wdsmia is watching ratatiouiie

22:56 <MTughan> That's a good one.

22:56 <wdsmia> not much blood

22:56 <MTughan> lol

22:57 <MTughan> No waterfalls of blood from peoples' necks?

22:57 <wdsmia> not even a cut finger

22:57 <MTughan> Hehe...

22:58 <MTughan> Although there is hair pulling.

22:58 <wdsmia> true

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23:16 <MTughan> Stupid thing...

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23:18 <MTughan> 'lo CFL

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