IRC logs of #boinc for Monday, 2008-02-04

00:01 <MTughan> &xkcd

00:01 <Romulus> http://www.xkcd.com/

00:02 <MTughan> &cad

00:02 <Romulus> http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php

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00:13 <MTughan> I'm off to bed... School tomorrow.

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00:15 <Tank_Master> gh MT

00:15 <Tank_Master> hiya wabbit

00:18 <Alphinux|Spitfir> jajaja tomorrow no school for me

00:18 <Alphinux|Spitfir> nor for any one in Mexico

00:18 <Wabbit98> bah

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00:35 * efc is getting a tsunami of pharmaspam

00:38 <Tank_Master> you going to farm out that spam?

00:52 <efc> I'm going to print it out and use it as fuel

00:52 <efc> This plan is perfect

00:53 <Tank_Master> lol

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01:22 <efc> hmm, dual xeon mb with 2.8 ghz cpus, $75

01:23 <efc> Don't really need it though

01:24 <Tank_Master> waste of $$

01:27 <efc> yeah takes registered ram

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01:28 <efc> single cores

01:41 <Wabbit67> there need to be more BOINC designed shirts at Cafepress

01:42 <Bad_At_Home> hi Ya Wabbit

01:43 <Bad_At_Home> &weather 86046

01:43 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Temperature: 26.6F / -3.0C | Humidity: 98% | Pressure: 23.27in / 787.9hPa | Conditions: Snow | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 7.6mph / 12.2km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Windy...snow. New snow accumulation 9 to 13 inches. Lows 21 to 29. Southwest winds 20 to 30 mph. Gusts up to 45 mph in the evening.; Monday - Cloudy with snow showers likely in the morning...mostly cloudy with a chance of snow (1 more message)

01:43 <Bad_At_Home> &more

01:43 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: showers in the afternoon. Snow accumulation 1 to 2 inches. Storm total snow accumulation 18 to 27 inches. Highs 28 to 34. West winds around 15 mph. Chance of snow 60 percent.; Monday Night - Mostly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of snow showers. No snow accumulation. Lows 4 to 12. Light winds.; Winter Storm Warning for Coconino County in effect until 12:00 PM MST on February 04, 2008;

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01:49 <efc> p3-733s $4 hehe

01:50 <efc> or 866

01:55 <efc> getting a p200mmx for old system and some other odd parts

01:56 <Tank_Master> I got a box of 866s

01:57 <efc> I've got an ATX system lacking a motherboard.. p3-600, p2-266, and cel-700 all laying around

01:58 <Tank_Master> :)

01:59 <efc> still wish my old dual slot 1 MB hadn't fried so many years so

01:59 <efc> so=ago

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03:32 <clusty> hello fellow boincers

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04:28 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

04:28 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 39.7F / 4.3C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016.1hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers with a slight chance of thunderstorms. Highs in the upper 50s. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Tonight - Occasional showers with a chance of thunderstorms. Near steady (1 more message)

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04:39 <CoderForLife> &more

04:39 <Romulus> CoderForLife: temperatures in the upper 50s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Tuesday - Occasional showers. A chance of thunderstorms in the morning...then occasional thunderstorms in the afternoon. Mild with highs in the mid 60s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.;

04:44 <CoderForLife> brb  breakfast

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04:54 <andresgr> mroning

04:57 <KathrynM> morning

05:17 <CoderForLife> morning

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05:30 <andresgr> guys, you should definitely check out this:  http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread?thread=18241

05:30 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1UqD> (at www.worldcommunitygrid.org)

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05:44 <andresgr> the interesting (controversial) part comes near the end

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06:37 <KathrynM> half a million credits for me today :-)

06:40 <andresgr> KathrynM, wow! congratulations. How long took?

06:40 <KathrynM> I started middle of october 2005

06:42 <hawmps-away> congrats!!

06:42 <KathrynM> thanks

06:43 <KathrynM> BS calculator says a year till I become a millionaire.

06:46 <hawmps-away> cool..

06:46 <hawmps-away> http://www.boincstats.com/signature/user_13409.gif

06:46 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/113E> (at www.boincstats.com)

06:47 <wdsmia> mornin Jay, KM

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06:48 <hawmps> waaaay to warm in my office..

06:48 <KathrynM> mornin wdsmia

07:00 <clusty> nifty graphics on pirates

07:00 <clusty> :D

07:01 <KathrynM> what's Eric got out now?

07:01 <KathrynM> starboard?

07:02 * KathrynM encourage the ralph wu to finish. I need to stop the daemon darn it.

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08:00 <clusty> i am having some boinc client issues

08:00 <clusty> as usual i start the boincmgr

08:01 <clusty> and it complains not being able to copnnect to the boinc client

08:01 <KathrynM> is the core client running?

08:01 <clusty> is it not ment to start it automatically

08:01 <clusty> windows

08:01 <clusty> i thought the on win the mgr starts the core

08:01 <KathrynM> it should

08:02 <clusty> running the thing by hand gives some error

08:02 <clusty> some hexa number

08:02 <KathrynM> a crash?

08:03 <clusty> kinda

08:03 <clusty> damn

08:03 <clusty> even my old client stopped working

08:03 <clusty> reinstalled windows

08:03 <KathrynM> ouch

08:03 <clusty> the nice and official boinc works fine

08:03 <clusty> my gimped version does not

08:03 <clusty> grrrr

08:04 <KathrynM> well that I can identify with (sort of)

08:04 <KathrynM> I'm trying to sort out if my self compiled version is borked or the 5.10.39 code is borked.

08:11 <clusty> will try an older svn

08:11 <clusty> luckilly i put it under svn

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08:19 <Bad_At_Home> &weather 86046

08:19 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Temperature: 23.9F / -4.5C | Humidity: 96% | Pressure: 23.27in / 787.9hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Cloudy. Snow likely in the morning...a chance of snow showers in the afternoon. Snow accumulation 2 to 5 inches. Highs 27 to 33. West winds 15 to 20 mph. Chance of snow 60 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy in the evening then becoming (1 more message)

08:19 <Bad_At_Home> &more

08:19 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: partly cloudy. A 20 percent chance of snow showers. No snow accumulation. Lows 3 to 13. Light winds.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Highs 29 to 35. Light winds.; Winter Storm Warning for Coconino County in effect until 12:00 PM MST on February 04, 2008;

08:19 <KathrynM> mornin Bad_At_Home

08:20 <Bad_At_Home> Hello Kat hows things in asia

08:20 <KathrynM> not too bad

08:20 <Romulus> The primegrid charts and the perfect liberal lady

08:21 <KathrynM> well that just about sums it up rommie

08:21 <Bad_At_Home> Rommy you suck somtimes

08:21 <Bad_At_Home> lol

08:22 <Bad_At_Home> did you get to watch the game

08:22 <KathrynM> about 10 seconds of it between two of my classes.

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08:25 <clusty> what game?

08:25 <KathrynM> superbowl

08:25 <clusty> ouch

08:25 <clusty> :D

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08:25 <clusty> i am more of a curling person

08:25 <clusty> :D

08:28 <PovAddic1> good moaning

08:28 <PovAddic1> yawn

08:28 <Bad_At_Home> Mornin

08:29 <KathrynM> mornin PovAddic1

08:29 <clusty> ahoy

08:29 * clusty bows to the masta

08:29 <KathrynM> lol

08:29 <KathrynM> oh masta...   do uppercase fail to validate for no good reason at times?

08:30 <clusty> trying to start a project?

08:30 <KathrynM> me?

08:30 <KathrynM> heck no

08:30 <PovAddic1> I doubt your computer forgets what's the uppercase version of 'a' and converts it to 'B'...

08:30 <KathrynM> lol

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08:31 <PovAddict> you could try .39 by the way

08:31 <KathrynM> well, the first version i compiled was .39

08:31 <KathrynM> had some invalids.

08:31 <KathrynM> so were they invalid because of my self compiled version or buggy code?

08:31 <PovAddict> the first version you compiled was 5.10 branch, not necessarily the same :)

08:31 <KathrynM> oh

08:31 <KathrynM> this is just too hard :/

08:31 <PovAddict> I don't see how a bad core client could cause invalid workunits

08:32 * KathrynM shrugs

08:32 <KathrynM> I don't either

08:32 <KathrynM> but I'm trying to be scientific here.

08:33 <KathrynM> i'm running a few pg tps to see if those turn out ok.

08:33 <KathrynM> http://isaac.ssl.berkeley.edu/alpha/results.php?hostid=2311

08:33 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1Ut4> (at isaac.ssl.berkeley.edu)

08:33 <KathrynM> if you're curious

08:34 <PovAddict> you know that correlation vs causation thing :]

08:34 <KathrynM> yeah.  i know

08:34 <KathrynM> dr. mastrangelo drilled it into my head years ago

08:35 <PovAddict> hey guess what...

08:35 <PovAddict> http://isaac.ssl.berkeley.edu/alpha/workunit.php?wuid=308582 <- you got it marked as invalid on this one

08:35 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1Ut7> (at isaac.ssl.berkeley.edu)

08:35 <Romulus> it works just fine

08:36 <PovAddict> the other three results were crunched by the same machine

08:36 <PovAddict> running truXoft boinc client

08:36 <KathrynM> holy smokes

08:37 <PovAddict> I think the server should convert the input file to uppercase by itself, and compare *that*... not do a inter-result comparison

08:37 <KathrynM> so I've been banging my head against a wall for nothing.

08:37 <PovAddict> http://isaac.ssl.berkeley.edu/alpha/workunit.php?wuid=308221 <- now this one is more interesting

08:37 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1Ut8> (at isaac.ssl.berkeley.edu)

08:38 <PovAddict> because there is *nothing* interesting about the other four results

08:38 <PovAddict> different computers, some with different client versions, yet all validated with each other and yours didn't

08:39 <KathrynM> that's one that I ran at lucnh time

08:39 <KathrynM> I was hypothsizing that it was invalid because two were running at the same time.

08:39 <KathrynM> but I've run two together this evening.

08:39 <KathrynM> dunno

08:39 <KathrynM> everyone else was windows...

08:39 <PovAddict> email DA and hope his file_deleter is slow (or tell him to disable it and run some more WUs) so he can compare the output files from all 5 results manually

08:40 <KathrynM> i emailed him yesterday about the deleter

08:40 <KathrynM> results used to stick around forever and a day

08:40 <PovAddict> oh you mean the results on the DB?

08:40 <KathrynM> yeah

08:40 <KathrynM> two differen things?

08:41 <PovAddict> I meant the *files*, which usually get deleted as soon as they aren't needed for validation

08:41 <KathrynM> don't upset my blissful ignorance :)

08:46 <clusty> i am having some issue with self compiled clients under windows

08:46 <clusty> maybe you PovAddict can shed some light :D

08:46 <clusty> running self compiled boinc.exe gives some error

08:47 <clusty> some "failed to init" and some hexanumber

08:47 <clusty> seen such stuff before?

08:47 <PovAddict> what number...?

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08:47 <clusty> 0xc0150002

08:47 <clusty> lemme double check it

08:48 <clusty> right one

08:48 <clusty> the one that comes with installer is fine

08:48 <clusty> fresh pull from svn fails

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08:48 <Romulus> WB, Boss

08:48 <clusty> also my moded version chokes

08:49 <CoderForLife> morning any and all

08:49 <clusty> hey

08:49 <CoderForLife> hey clusty

08:49 <KathrynM> mornin  CoderForLife

08:50 <CoderForLife> hello KathrynM

08:50 <CoderForLife> _o/  PovAddict

08:50 <PovAddict> hmm I need a file from the other computer

08:50 <PovAddict> brb turning it on

08:50 <PovAddict> maybe I should look into hibernating and wake-on-LAN? :)

08:50 <clusty> well latest latest svn does not link

08:51 <CoderForLife> _o?  a pirate hello to hawmps  =)

08:51 <CoderForLife> arrgghh

08:52 * PovAddict waits for pings to come back

08:52 <clusty> whats the matter honey?

08:52 <PovAddict> there we go

08:52 <clusty> where where?

08:52 <clusty> :D

08:53 * KathrynM looks around with a confused face

08:58 * clusty is still looking around

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09:03 <clusty> googleing around for the error message gave me some ideas as to why it happens

09:03 <clusty> app can't read some dll's

09:03 <clusty> any idea which and why it chokes?

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09:33 <KathrynM> I'm so not going to worry about my build anymore.  I'm not planning on using it.  It was an exercise to see if I could do it.

09:33 <KathrynM> FWIW, 2/4 PG LLRs validated and the other two are still pending.

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10:18 <hawmps> back again..

10:29 <Tank_Master> wb

11:04 <wdsmia_w> &weather 50319

11:05 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 32F / 0C | Humidity: 96% | Pressure: 29.66in / 1004hPa | Conditions: Fog | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h ; Rest of Today - Cloudy. Areas of fog in the morning. Rain likely and areas of drizzle in the morning...then a slight chance of rain... freezing rain and patchy drizzle in the afternoon. High in the mid 30s. East wind 5 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 70 (2 more messages)

11:05 <wdsmia_w> &more

11:05 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: percent.; Tonight - Cloudy. Areas of drizzle and freezing drizzle in the evening...then patchy drizzle or freezing drizzle after midnight. Low in the upper 20s. Northwest wind 10 to 15 mph.; Tuesday - Cloudy. A chance of snow in the morning...then snow likely in the afternoon. Snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches. High in the lower 30s. North wind around 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph. Chance of (1 more message)

11:05 <wdsmia_w> &more

11:05 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: snow 70 percent.; Winter Storm Watch for Polk County in effect until 9:00 AM CST on February 06, 2008;

11:21 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86023

11:21 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 6F / -14C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.82in / 1010hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. A chance of snow early in the morning...a chance of snow showers in the late morning and afternoon. No snow accumulation. Highs around 26 on the North Rim to around 48 along the Colorado River. Southwest winds around 15 mph (2 more messages)

11:21 <BadBarbarian> &more

11:21 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: early in the morning becoming light. Chance of snow 40 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy with a 10 percent chance of snow showers. No snow accumulation. Lows around 5 above on the North Rim to around 20 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Highs around 25 on the North Rim to around 45 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Winter Storm Warning for Coconino County in (1 more message)

11:21 <BadBarbarian> &more

11:21 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: effect until 12:00 PM MST on February 04, 2008;

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11:58 <PovAddict> I sense a new release

12:20 <hawmps> like a disturbance in the force?

12:20 <PovAddict> yep...

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14:04 <wdsmia_w> yawn...

14:05 <Romulus> actually he lives in Leeds, UK

14:05 <hawmps> boring day?

14:06 <wdsmia_w> fixed everything in the first 2 hr's now trying to stay awake for the last 31/2

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14:10 <wdsmia_w> the actifed im taking for my cold isnt helping me stay awake either

14:11 <PovAddict> &math calc 512*384

14:11 <Romulus> PovAddict: 196608

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14:35 <hawmps> &weather 12020

14:35 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 35.8F / 2.1C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1019.9hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; This Afternoon - Cloudy with a chance of rain or snow. Highs in the upper 30s. Southeast winds around 5 mph. Chance of precipitation 40 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy. A chance of snow or rain and sleet in the evening...then rain and sleet after midnight. (1 more message)

14:35 <hawmps> &more

14:35 <Romulus> hawmps: Snow and sleet accumulation a dusting. Near steady temperature in the mid 30s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation 90 percent.; Tuesday - Rain in the morning...then a chance of showers in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 40s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 90 percent.;

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14:41 <PovAddict> &google calc 639 seconds / (320*240) * (1024*768)

14:41 <Romulus> PovAddict: ((639 seconds) / (320 * 240)) * (1,024 * 768) = 1.8176 hours

14:41 <PovAddict> I expected slower...

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14:44 <PovAddict> &google calc 78 seconds / (40*30) * (1024*768)

14:44 <Romulus> PovAddict: ((78 seconds) / (40 * 30)) * (1,024 * 768) = 14.1994667 hours

14:44 <PovAddict> heh

14:44 <Romulus> and happy !@#ie day to sit on the gui, its easy to do that

14:47 <PovAddict> &google calc 3 minutes / (46*160) * (1024*768)

14:47 <Romulus> PovAddict: ((3 minutes) / (46 * 160)) * (1,024 * 768) = 5.3426087 hours

14:49 <PovAddict> &google calc 5 minutes / (53*160) * (1024*768)

14:49 <Romulus> PovAddict: ((5 minutes) / (53 * 160)) * (1,024 * 768) = 7.72830189 hours

15:21 <PovAddict> &seen zombie67

15:21 <Romulus> PovAddict: zombie67 was last seen in #boinc 21 hours, 50 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <zombie67> bbl

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15:34 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: ping

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15:47 <yoyo[RKN]> PovAddict : I created a lot new workunits with create_work. after around 4000 I got

15:47 <yoyo[RKN]> create_work: error opening database: -138

15:47 <PovAddict> your DB got overloaded?

15:48 <yoyo[RKN]> only by create_work

15:48 <Romulus> but when it comes from.

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15:52 <xcamel> re-hi

15:52 <Tank_Master> hey

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15:53 <PovAddict> TM: imp@h

15:53 <Tank_Master> ?

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15:56 <xcamel> has anyone ever determined what the optimal round-robin time is for multiple projects?

15:56 <Tank_Master> default is 60 min

15:56 <Tank_Master> but it probably depends on the project

15:56 <PovAddict> the client doesn't take that into account much...

15:57 <Tank_Master> no it really doesnt

15:58 <PriitM> ahh yes, > 66,000 credits gained so far :)

15:58 <Tank_Master> :)

15:59 <PovAddict> &calc 2215819516.172873 * 5*60

15:59 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: The command "calc" is available in the Google and Math plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "calc".

15:59 <PovAddict> &math calc 2215819516.172873 * 5*60

15:59 <Romulus> PovAddict: 664745854851

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16:19 <xcamel> I just wonder id anyone studied it... dismissing it offhand isn't very 'scientific'

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16:24 <xcamel> 'lo Mike

16:25 <MTughan> 'lo jay

16:25 <MTughan> I seem to be missing the shift key a lot...

16:25 <Tank_Master> hiya MT

16:25 <MTughan> 'lo TM

16:26 <xcamel> get yer shift together, boy..

16:26 <Tank_Master> I always capitilize on my shifting

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16:36 <PovAddict> eek black results

16:36 <Soul_keeper> W00T!!!!

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16:39 <xcamel> dark matter?

16:39 <PovAddict> &boincerr -221

16:39 <Romulus> PovAddict: Aborted by project

16:39 <PovAddict> ah...

16:39 <PovAddict> damn useful lookup :)

16:40 <xcamel> thank you..

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16:43 <MTughan> 'lo mac

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16:46 <xcamel> pov: wonder if there are any other items that should be in that list..

16:51 <PovAddict> bah, looks like I'll have to release a new 10MB file, and I still don't know how to delete files on hosts

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17:15 <PovAddict> MTughan: did you get any IMP work?

17:15 <MTughan> Let me update.

17:15 <PovAddict> there isn't any available now

17:15 <PovAddict> I wanted to know if you had got any of the short failed batch

17:16 <MTughan> Oh, no I didn't.

17:16 <PovAddict> &invoke zombie67

17:16 <Romulus> Dunno!

17:16 <PovAddict> aww

17:18 <wdsmia_w> almost time to head home  bbl

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17:23 <xcamel> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap080204.html

17:23 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2008 February 4 - A Spider Shaped Crater on Mercury (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)

17:23 <xcamel> interesting...

17:24 <PovAddict> lol I was about to type exactly that

17:24 <PovAddict> inte-- you beat me to it

17:30 <MTughan> PovAddict: Know any way to do an easy logical XOR?

17:31 <PovAddict> if ( (a||b) && !(a&&b) ) would be my first attempt

17:33 <MTughan> Because I finally got a sort to work, but only works one way...

17:33 <MTughan> Oh, I know why...

17:34 <MTughan> Or not.

17:35 <MTughan> Oops... The sort doesn't work anyway. :P

17:37 <MTughan> Forgot one other thing. Sort works now, but still not in the opposite direction...

17:39 <MTughan> Heh... The sorting classes were already taking care of something I was checking for... Works fine.

17:44 <CoderForLife> hello

17:44 <MTughan> 'lo CFL

17:45 <MTughan> Apparently there's a hungry cat downstairs... brb

17:45 * CoderForLife imagines the sound of breaking furniture

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17:47 <MTughan> lol

17:47 * CoderForLife pulls PovAddict free of the revolving door

17:48 <CoderForLife> so wattup in boincville?

17:48 <MTughan> My BOINC Manager now has a working Projects pane.

17:49 <CoderForLife> hooray

17:49 <MTughan> I think the only things left are the URL buttons and sorting on resource shares and statuses.

17:49 <MTughan> URL buttons I'm thinking of moving somewhere else, so I'm not concerned.

17:51 <PovAddict> MTughan: working WUs available now :)

17:51 <MTughan> Awesome...

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17:52 <MTughan> Oops... Seems that telling IMPFarm to allow new work in my manager tells RCN to allow new work... xD

17:52 <MTughan> Side effect of the sorting, I'll need to fix that.

17:52 <PovAddict> u b doin it rong

17:53 <MTughan> No, u b doin it rong

17:53 <MTughan> Mon Feb  4 17:53:08 2008|IMP test|Message from server: No work sent

17:53 <MTughan> Mon Feb  4 17:53:08 2008|IMP test|Message from server: (there was work for other platforms)

17:53 * CoderForLife pulls PovAddict free of the revolving door again

17:54 <PovAddict> you know there's only winduhs...

17:54 <MTughan> Oh, you never said that.

17:54 * CoderForLife watches the accusations fly

17:54 <MTughan> Doesn't matter, I'll just fire up the VM. Slower, but it works.

17:54 * PovAddict blames Misfit

17:54 <PovAddict> MTughan: current bunch of WUs ready to send take around... 3 seconds XD

17:55 <PovAddict> other tiles in the middle of the image take several minutes

17:55 <PovAddict> I need dynamic tiling...

17:55 <MTughan> Hmm... VMs oughta take 4 seconds then... :P

17:55 * CoderForLife wonders if PovAddict is ignoring him

17:55 <MTughan> That's 133% slower!

17:55 <MTughan> xD

17:55 * PovAddict puts CoderForLife *into* the revolving door

17:55 <PovAddict> no I'm not ignoring you

17:56 <CoderForLife> why.. did.. you.. do.. that..

17:56 <PovAddict> lol

17:56 <CoderForLife> okey dokey

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17:56 * CoderForLife spins out into the room

17:57 <MTughan> PovAddict: Download stalled...

17:57 <MTughan> Nvm, it's going.

17:58 <xcamel> kick it.

17:58 <MTughan> How can I kick a VM?

17:58 <xcamel> with a "VB"

17:58 <PovAddict> ah, VM

17:58 <PovAddict> virtual kick

17:58 <MTughan> Dinner time...

17:58 <PovAddict> you might need the VM additions installed on the guest system before using the virtual kicking boot

17:59 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

17:59 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 56.6F / 13.7C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 29.91in / 1012.8hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 9.8mph / 15.8km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy with a chance of showers with isolated thunderstorms. Lows in the mid 50s. Southwest winds 15 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Tuesday - Showers with a chance of thunderstorms. Locally heavy rainfall possible. Near (1 more message)

17:59 <CoderForLife> &more

17:59 <Romulus> CoderForLife: record highs in the mid 60s. Southwest winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Tuesday Night - Showers with a chance of thunderstorms. Locally heavy rainfall possible. Lows in the upper 40s. Southwest winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Areal Flood Watch for Hamilton County in effect until 9:00 AM EST on February 06, 2008;

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18:03 <xcamel> ooh... nice and warm...

18:05 <xcamel> [LOL-NNTN] >> Middle school issues ban on intentional flatulence

18:05 <xcamel> http://knox.villagesoup.com/rewrite/108448.htm

18:05 <Romulus> Title: (Camden) Middle school issues ban on intentional flatulence - Community - VillageSoup (at knox.villagesoup.com)

18:06 <zombie67> pov?

18:06 <PovAddict> _o/

18:06 <xcamel> "alrightythen"

18:06 <xcamel> Kinda hard to prove "intent"

18:06 <PovAddict> indeed

18:06 <zombie67> yep, both of my machines you listed have it

18:06 <PovAddict> xcamel: also, your "nice and warm" came in bad timing :P

18:06 <xcamel> that made my whole week...

18:07 <PovAddict> zombie67: ok, what's the hostid of them again?

18:07 <zombie67> 117 and 121

18:08 <PovAddict> ok, update both, watch messages

18:08 <PovAddict> or one of them...

18:09 <zombie67> got server request to delete

18:09 <PovAddict> did the file actually get deleted?

18:09 <zombie67> yep.  14 is gone

18:10 <PovAddict> great! I have a patch then :)

18:10 <PovAddict> some stupid things broken in delete_file tool

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18:10 <KathrynM> mornin

18:10 <PovAddict> and I had already fixed a few on my last attempt (which never worked)...

18:10 <PovAddict> it's clear it was never tested

18:10 <xcamel> 'lo Kat

18:12 <zombie67> hmmm, worked for 117

18:12 <zombie67> but not for 121

18:13 <wdsmia> re-hi

18:13 <KathrynM> &tell xcamel yes, it's ok

18:14 <KathrynM> well that didn't seem to work :/

18:14 <KathrynM> lol

18:14 <Romulus> "if there is a problem by the time

18:14 <Tank_Master> ib

18:14 <PovAddict> zombie67: did 121 get the message at least?

18:15 <zombie67> not seeing it

18:15 <zombie67> found it

18:15 <PovAddict> here it shows like the message was "handled" (= sent to host)

18:16 <zombie67> grrr, lost it again.

18:16 <zombie67> I hate how manager message tab keeps taking you back to the bottom

18:17 <zombie67> found it again

18:17 <PovAddict> lol

18:18 <zombie67> but the file is still there

18:18 <PovAddict> was there any error after the 'server requested delete'?

18:18 <zombie67> nope

18:19 <xcamel> hmm...

18:19 <xcamel> &cmd

18:19 <Romulus> xcamel: I offer a total of 434 commands in 69 command-based plugins.  I have processed 339 commands.

18:19 <zombie67> anim014 shows 02/04 date modified

18:19 <PovAddict> re-sent delete request to HOST#121

18:20 <zombie67> "got server req...."

18:21 <zombie67> file still there

18:21 <PovAddict> and not deleted? what BOINC version?

18:21 <zombie67> 5.10.13, same as 117

18:21 <PovAddict> weird

18:21 <PovAddict> got any imp work on cache?

18:21 <Tank_Master> file deletes fine on mine

18:22 <zombie67> yes

18:22 <Tank_Master> no

18:22 <PovAddict> zombie67: from anim14 or 15?

18:22 <zombie67> 1x 14, balance 15

18:22 <zombie67> so that's it

18:22 <PovAddict> ah... BOINC refuses to delete anim014.naf because you have workunits needing it

18:22 <Tank_Master> I dont have ant 15

18:22 <Tank_Master> any*

18:23 <PovAddict> you could abort the one with 14

18:23 <zombie67> that did it.  file gone

18:24 <PovAddict> full image looks something like this: http://impfarm.imp.org/~boincadm/sample_results/cups-wip3.png

18:24 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1V3X> (at impfarm.imp.org)

18:24 <PovAddict> (except bigger)

18:24 <zombie67> any word on when BRUP will be back up?

18:25 <PovAddict> it's down?

18:25 <zombie67> yeah

18:25 <zombie67> http://burp.boinc.dk//status.php

18:26 <Tank_Master> 14 is back

18:26 <Tank_Master> 2/4/2008 3:25:34 PM|IMP test|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.  Requesting 74089 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks

18:26 <Tank_Master> 2/4/2008 3:25:39 PM|IMP test|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks

18:26 <Tank_Master> 2/4/2008 3:26:07 PM|IMP test|Finished download of anim014.naf

18:26 <zombie67> probably the one i aborted

18:26 <PovAddict> ah rats

18:26 <Tank_Master> lol

18:26 <PovAddict> I should server-side-abort anim014

18:27 <Tank_Master> zombie67: probably

18:27 <Tank_Master> I noe have a WU

18:27 <Tank_Master> how*

18:28 <PovAddict> aborted

18:29 <MTughan> PovAddict: Is all the work gone?

18:29 <Tank_Master> WU compleated - 14 is still hanging around, posing for anamil crackers

18:29 <PovAddict> zombie67: you seem to have plenty of work on those two machines now

18:30 <PovAddict> could you make those process and report quickly, maybe by suspending other projects? it's just this fast bunch, then I'll send a hundred or two that can run at their own pace...

18:31 <zombie67> lemme try

18:31 <PovAddict> careful... maybe you suspend a project and that makes another fetch work... :-\

18:31 <MTughan> Suspend the network first.

18:31 <zombie67> there needs to be a way to select multiple projects, to do things like ssuspend.

18:31 <PovAddict> MTughan: show screenshot of your work :)

18:32 <MTughan> lol...

18:32 <zombie67> PITA with 30+ projects!

18:32 <MTughan> One sec...

18:33 <Soul_keeper> http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=10573

18:33 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1V3g> (at www.dailytech.com)

18:34 <MTughan> Okay, back. zombie67, what he was talking about is that the manager I'm making can do operations on many projects at once.

18:35 <PovAddict> MTughan: of the correct projects? you had some sorting problems last time you mentioned it :)

18:35 <Tank_Master> that would be handy at times

18:35 <MTughan> Sorting problems, yeah. I'm just getting to them now.

18:35 <PovAddict> zombie67: you seem to be pushing data onto the server like crazy :)

18:36 <Tank_Master> and I cant seem to get any work

18:37 <zombie67> MT:  can't wait!

18:37 <MTughan> lol

18:37 <PovAddict> zombie67: his mgr is for Mac only, not using any x-platform GUI library

18:37 <MTughan> He has Mac.

18:37 <zombie67> that works for 1/3 of my machines

18:37 <PovAddict> that's a feature

18:37 <PovAddict> :)

18:38 <MTughan> Oh, and it'll support remote machines, hopefully multiple ones at a time.

18:38 <PovAddict> to support multiple at a time, you need some changes to the user interface...

18:38 <Romulus> why wouldnt I want the project .xml files

18:38 <MTughan> Some, but for later...

18:38 <zombie67> similar to that 3rd boinc mgr for windows?

18:39 <PovAddict> zombie67: BOINCView? well, it could have some iTunes-like bar on the left, and maybe even with filters (like those smart playlists, or smart folders on Mail), so even more powerful than BOINCView

18:39 <zombie67> nice!

18:39 <zombie67> gimme!

18:40 <PovAddict> I'm just giving ideas...

18:40 <PovAddict> MTughan might not be able to do all that :)

18:40 <Tank_Master> boincstudio?

18:40 <MTughan> lol, just the Project pane works right now, one machine only (localhost), and having sort issues.

18:40 <PovAddict> and I can't help much, since I don't know Objective-C at all

18:40 <MTughan> It's not near ready for primetime.

18:40 <zombie67> pov, is that all of them?  aly left on my machines?

18:40 <PovAddict> w00t! yes that was all you had

18:41 <zombie67> lots of pirates (relatively) lately

18:41 <PovAddict> assimilator seems to have died though

18:41 <PovAddict> :|

18:41 <Tank_Master> ouch

18:41 <xcamel> the borg function..

18:42 <CoderForLife> re-hi

18:42 <zombie67> gotta run

18:42 <KathrynM> laters zombie67

18:42 <CoderForLife> sometimes life seems like one long pitched battle

18:42 <PovAddict> there will be more work, but I won't be "hurrying" it

18:42 <zombie67> cool!

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18:43 <CoderForLife> "the room" bids zombie67 adieu

18:44 <Soul_keeper> hmmm

18:44 <CoderForLife> 58F atm

18:44 <xcamel> CoderForLife: Nerf Warz!

18:44 <KathrynM> &weather Ulsan

18:44 <CoderForLife> we're in for trouble, I'm afraid

18:44 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 39°F / 4°C | Humidity: 31% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 12:00 PM KST; Clear. High:41 F. / 5 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:33 F. / 1 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:39 F. / 4 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:33 F. / 1 C.; Clear. High:37 F. / 3 C.; Clear. Low:32 F. / 0 C.;

18:44 <xcamel> ...big friggin trouble...

18:44 <KathrynM> 12 PM KST?

18:45 <KathrynM> That would be yesterday :)

18:45 <PovAddict> yay more interesting pieces http://impfarm.imp.org/~boincadm/sample_results/anim015_f0000_t012

18:45 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1V3x> (at impfarm.imp.org)

18:45 <Romulus> Lol. 30 minute response time.

18:46 * Tank_Master slaps Romulus around a bit with a large trout

18:47 <Tank_Master> where did Z run off to?

18:48 <PovAddict> more short units out

18:48 <MTughan> All right... Sort issues are fixed in the Manager.

18:49 <xcamel> interesting pattern

18:49 <xcamel> http://lledgerock.com/boinc_logs/boinc-current.png

18:49 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1T07> (at lledgerock.com)

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18:50 <PovAddict> lol @ quit message

18:50 * KathrynM bangs head on desk

18:50 <PovAddict> don't

18:50 <PovAddict> poor desk

18:50 <PovAddict> ..err

18:50 <KathrynM> The Linux app was very old; I changed to a new one.

18:50 <KathrynM> See if that works better.

18:50 <KathrynM> -- David

18:50 <KathrynM> uppercase...

18:51 <PovAddict> very old and incompatible with the winduhs one?

18:51 <KathrynM> dunno

18:51 <KathrynM> I'll have to check it out at lunch

18:51 <MTughan> Cool, it does work for other machines with a recompilation...

18:51 <PovAddict> incompatible in the sense of non-validating

18:52 <KathrynM> I've been blaming my poor client for David's old app...

18:52 <KathrynM> at least I was smart enough not to trash those temp directories ;)

18:52 <PovAddict> btw you can switch between tags and branches and trunk without needing a full re-download

18:53 <KathrynM> gah...  I miss the old days when I was blissfully ignornant of all this stuff.

18:53 <KathrynM> But I saved everything

18:53 <Tank_Master> lol

18:53 <PovAddict> miss? :)

18:53 <KathrynM> So no need to recompile

18:54 <MTughan> PovAddict: I think we overloaded your server or something... Scheduler request is still going on after at least 30s.

18:54 <PovAddict> lol

18:55 <Tank_Master> I just requested fine a few sec ago

18:55 <PovAddict> load average: 0.03, 0.06, 0.07

18:55 <MTughan> I don't know.

18:55 <MTughan> Oh... three minutes and still going.

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18:56 <MTughan> As I just said... Request's three minutes and still going.

18:56 <MTughan> Oops, four minutes now.

18:56 <PovAddict> might be the client that hanged

18:56 <PovAddict> it should have timed out already

18:56 <MTughan> Client's still responding.

18:57 <MTughan> Both the manager and core.

18:57 <PovAddict> I have had that exact bug before, couldn't track it down

18:58 <Tank_Master> ill bbl

18:58 <MTughan> Or maybe internet died on the VM... IE doesn't seem to be picking up pages.

18:58 <Tank_Master> I got to much TSP to burn through for now

18:58 <MTughan> Nvm, Google works.

18:59 <MTughan> There... Timed out after 5 minutes.

19:00 <MTughan> "Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server"...

19:00 <MTughan> I can sure access it from the web.

19:01 <MTughan> Ah, the internet connection failed...

19:02 <MTughan> Connection's up, and I'm off...

19:04 <CoderForLife> going down to the couch to Code

19:04 <CoderForLife> cya later

19:04 <xcamel> have fun..

19:10 <KathrynM> going to W&$@

19:10 <KathrynM> Thank goodness it's "friday" for me.

19:14 <xcamel> ah.. holiday week

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19:17 <xcamel> 'lo eddie

19:18 <efc> Hey

19:22 <xcamel> stuper tuesday on deck - renamed "why bother day"

19:25 <efc> hey X.. on the engineered flooring stuff, can you buy it in bulk (say 1000 sq ft) cheaper than in the little 10-packs?

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19:26 <infinisoft> hello

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19:26 <xcamel> efc: depends on who you go to buy it from, or if you know someone "in the business"

19:27 <efc> Just seems silly to pay for all that packaging.. but I guess in bulk there's probably some damage on the edges of the palette

19:28 <infinisoft> how long does it take for cpdn to credit trickles?

19:30 <PovAddict> within the day, usually

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19:47 <xcamel> you really want to make sure the prefinished stuff is well wrapped - damage and moisture would be a big problem

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20:38 <Soul_keeper> who would have thought my spreadsheet entries would turn to calculus ...

20:39 <Soul_keeper> freaking rediculous

20:39 <Soul_keeper> i just want one variable to change when i drag, not all of them

20:39 <PovAddict> what spreadsheet program?

20:39 <MTughan> Excel or Calc, I'd say...

20:40 <Soul_keeper> kspread

20:40 <MTughan> OOo Calc, that is..

20:40 <MTughan> Oops.

20:40 <Romulus> I dumped it about 8 months ago - everything was building right Revision: 14541

20:40 <PovAddict> on Excel: if you set A1 and drag down, it will change to B1, C1, etc; if you set it to $A1, the A won't change

20:40 <Soul_keeper> well it's like this    (c + (M*R))/s

20:40 <Soul_keeper> i want M to change when i drag

20:40 <PovAddict> similar for the number:  if you set A1 and drag right, it will change to A2, A3, etc; if you set it to A$1, the 1 won't change... you can combine that to $A$1

20:40 <Soul_keeper> the others are constant

20:41 <MTughan> What is M supposed to change to then?

20:41 <Soul_keeper> a corresponding value

20:41 <Soul_keeper> br

20:41 <Soul_keeper> brb

20:41 <MTughan> So it's a cell reference?

20:44 <PovAddict> want t137 done fast? :)

20:45 <Soul_keeper> MTughan, yes

20:45 <Soul_keeper> let me clarify

20:45 <MTughan> 137's rendered...

20:45 <Soul_keeper> =((b23+(A26*B19))/B22)

20:45 <MTughan> You want just A26 to change?

20:45 <Soul_keeper> yes

20:46 <PovAddict> =(($b$23+(A26*$B$19))/$B$22)

20:46 <MTughan> You can always try Pov's way on the other variables.

20:46 <Soul_keeper> interesting

20:46 <Soul_keeper> i'll give that a try

20:46 <MTughan> PovAddict: 0.09KB/s up?

20:46 <PovAddict> whur

20:47 <MTughan> Uploading 138.

20:47 <Soul_keeper> wow that worked

20:47 <Soul_keeper> thanks

20:47 <MTughan> And it stopped...

20:47 <MTughan> Cool, so KSpread follows that.

20:47 <MTughan> And now it went fast...

20:47 <MTughan> 72 was aborted...

20:48 <MTughan> Hmm... BOINC says 72 was aborted, but the web pages don't show that.

20:48 <MTughan> Oh, now it does.

20:48 <PovAddict> I pushed 138 into validation quicker :)

20:48 <PovAddict> changed quorum to 1

20:48 <MTughan> I see that.

20:49 <PovAddict> i c wut u did thur"

20:49 <MTughan> Whatever...

20:49 <MTughan> Hey, that'd be a great plugin, for an IRC client or for Rommie.

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20:50 <PovAddict> what...

20:50 <MTughan> To change your saying to what you just said.

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20:52 <PovAddict> I just pushed a LOT into quicker validation

20:52 <PovAddict> I should have used quorum 1 from the beginning, the validator is stupid anyway so using a quorum doesn't help avoid bad results

20:53 <xcamel> great plugin ?

20:53 <xcamel> dare I ask?

20:53 <MTughan> You'll see...

20:54 * xcamel cringes..

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20:56 * MTughan i c wut u did thur

20:56 <MTughan> /dumb I see what you did there

20:56 <MTughan> I'll need to change it from an action...

20:57 <MTughan> i c wut u did thur

21:00 <MTughan> PovAddict: How many images still have to be rendered?

21:01 <MTughan> Looks like 43...

21:01 <PovAddict> there's a lot of wasted time in upload/download/decompressing... I should get dynamic tiling implemented...

21:03 <MTughan> PovAddict: Any opinion on what pane I should implement next?

21:03 <MTughan> For BOINC Manager.

21:03 <PovAddict> transfers; it's easier than tasks, yet whatever you do there will help you when implementing tasks

21:04 <MTughan> Sounds good, although harder to test.

21:04 <PovAddict> ah right

21:04 <PovAddict> that could be a problem

21:05 <PovAddict> lowered cups.php HTML size by about 50% :)

21:05 <MTughan> I've learned most of what I'll probably need to do in the crash course with Projects, so I think I might just go on and tackle Tasks.

21:06 <PovAddict> you use something like a progress bar for the resource shares

21:06 <MTughan> Yeah.

21:08 <MTughan> http://michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org/BOINCMgrProjs.png

21:08 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1V5z> (at michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org)

21:09 <PovAddict> then you already know how to do one... for the %

21:09 <MTughan> Yeah.

21:09 <MTughan> I'm not sure if I can combine text and progress bar in one though. Not without subclassing the cell and adding another view.

21:12 <PovAddict> do other mac apps ever do that?

21:12 <MTughan> I don't see too many apps with progress bars...

21:13 <MTughan> iMovie is one though. No, no percent progress, but a countdown for time.

21:13 <MTughan> However, that's also moving.

21:13 <PovAddict> is the countdown inside (on top of) the progressbar?

21:14 <MTughan> No.

21:14 <MTughan> Below it, where they have some room.

21:14 <MTughan> brb

21:15 <PovAddict> I'll force some resends

21:16 <Tank_Master> ill force some updates

21:16 <PovAddict> 29 resends

21:17 <Tank_Master> 2/4/2008 6:16:58 PM|IMP test|Message from server: (reached per-host limit of 4 tasks)

21:17 <Tank_Master> and by for it means 8

21:18 <Tank_Master> why are some "aborted by project"?

21:18 <PovAddict> because they were already validated

21:19 <Tank_Master> piece of...

21:19 <PovAddict> lol

21:19 <PovAddict> it's making you waste less CPU :)

21:19 <PovAddict> say quorum is 2 and replication is 3, once two come, the server will attempt to abort the third (for example, if the client already started it, it won't be aborted)

21:19 <Tank_Master> yeah, I know

21:20 <Tank_Master> waste of bandith and I/O

21:21 <MTughan> Mon Feb  4 21:21:04 2008|IMP test|Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server

21:21 <MTughan> And it does have a connection.

21:21 <PovAddict> looks like somebody was just downloading the 10MB input

21:22 <PovAddict> no WUs left to crunch now anyway

21:22 * Tank_Master hhits the update button repeadidly to no avail

21:23 <MTughan> repeatedly*

21:23 * Tank_Master hits MTughan with the dicknhary

21:23 * MTughan hurts Tank_Master with a suspicious BOINC GUI RPC

21:23 <MTughan> IT CAME UP!!!!

21:23 <PovAddict> Tank_Master seems to have 13 WUs in progress

21:24 <PovAddict> zombie has 54?!

21:24 <Tank_Master> I only have it on 2 comps

21:24 <MTughan> I saw at least 3 8-core XP machines from zombie.

21:24 <Tank_Master> he has it on many

21:25 <Tank_Master> some are macs with the windows enhancements added to them

21:25 <MTughan> "Windows Enhancements"?

21:25 <Tank_Master> xp

21:25 <MTughan> You mean using Boot Camp?

21:25 <MTughan> Apple's BIOS emulator.

21:25 <Tank_Master> yep

21:26 <MTughan> Ah...

21:26 <Tank_Master> its not a bios emulator

21:26 <MTughan> How do you think they boot XP?

21:26 <MTughan> Apple uses EFI in their MBs.

21:26 <Tank_Master> xp supports the bios replacement, its just disabled

21:26 <Tank_Master> same with vista

21:27 <MTughan> I thought that was just Vista, not XP...

21:27 <PovAddict> wow!

21:27 <PovAddict> who wants an open proxy that is surely not blocked?

21:27 <Tank_Master> I havent a fikin clue why they built it in there than not enabled it

21:27 <MTughan> Huh?

21:27 <Tank_Master> I do

21:27 <PovAddict> MTughan: http://www.cadforums.com/ is that blocked for you? I remember it was

21:27 <MTughan> It's not now.

21:28 <MTughan> Although I get a DNS error...

21:28 <PovAddict> oops it's cad-forums

21:28 <Tank_Master> it cant be loaded

21:28 <PovAddict> with dash

21:28 <MTughan> http://www.cad-forums.com/

21:28 <Tank_Master> someone's a noob

21:28 <MTughan> Rommie...

21:28 * Tank_Master points to Romulus

21:28 <PovAddict> got a link to something that shows blocked to you?

21:28 <Tank_Master> hehe

21:28 <MTughan> Nothing now. Gateway's out of the picture for now.

21:29 <Romulus> I'll be staying later than usual.

21:29 <Tank_Master> it apprears to load fine for me

21:29 <MTughan> &web title http://www.cad-forums.com/

21:29 <Romulus> MTughan: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 4096 bytes.

21:29 <Tank_Master> oh, thats just great

21:29 <MTughan> ...

21:29 <Tank_Master> rommie will be up late..

21:30 <PovAddict> well I read about a trick making Google translate from English to English

21:30 <PovAddict> translation would be a no-op, but content would come from google server

21:30 <MTughan> Actually, he might be right... There's a huge CSS stylesheet before the <title> tags.

21:30 <PovAddict> doesn't work anymore tho

21:30 <PovAddict>   http://www.google.com/translate?langpair=en|en&u=www.site.com

21:30 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1V6I> (at www.google.com)

21:31 <xcamel> break the bot... pay the price...

21:31 <PovAddict> who broke it?

21:32 <MTughan> Damn... yeah, the title's not until about the 8000th character...

21:32 <MTughan> And either someone flashed a really bright light or there's lightning outside...

21:32 <PovAddict> 9 tiles left!

21:32 <MTughan> With the rain on my window, I'm inclined to think lightning...

21:32 <Tank_Master> TSP want into overdrive on my comp

21:32 <MTughan> &weather Toronto

21:32 <PovAddict> which means the other 74 results should be getting aborted...

21:33 <Tank_Master> its not gonna be running imp for a while

21:33 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 37°F / 3°C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.96in / 1014hPa | Conditions: Rain | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h | Updated: 9:25 PM EST; Tonight - Cloudy. Periods of rain beginning early this evening. Wind east 30 km/h (19 mph) becoming light this evening. Temperature rising to 7C(45F) by morning.; Tuesday - A few showers ending in the morning then cloudy with 40 percent (1 more message)

21:33 <MTughan> &more

21:33 <Romulus> MTughan: chance of drizzle. High 8C(46F) with temperature falling to 4C(39F) in the evening. Tuesday night cloudy. 40 percent chance of drizzle early in the evening. Rain beginning in the evening. Low 1C(34F).; Wednesday - Snow or rain. High 0C(32F).;

21:33 <MTughan> Hmm... Nothing about lightning.

21:33 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: suspend TSP for a while! :)

21:33 <Tank_Master> nest one is due in 27 min

21:33 <PovAddict> MTughan: you have 3 units apparently

21:33 <PovAddict> next tSP? ouch

21:33 <Tank_Master> yeah

21:33 <MTughan> I don't have any, I don't think.

21:34 <Tank_Master> I see 6

21:34 <MTughan> Yeah, I don't have any tasks.

21:35 <Tank_Master> wow, an 12 min task on a core2duo...

21:37 <PovAddict> ah crap

21:37 <MTughan> I know I had at least one task cancelled by server...

21:37 <PovAddict> anim015_f0000_t024_1_0

21:37 <MTughan> Huh...

21:37 <Tank_Master> ?

21:38 <PovAddict> http://impfarm.imp.org/boinc/workunit.php?wuid=6545 <- computer 131 is you

21:38 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1V6P> (at impfarm.imp.org)

21:38 <MTughan> I do indeed have three tasks...

21:38 <MTughan> But they're nowhere to be seen.

21:38 <PovAddict> bah

21:38 <PovAddict> lost in progress

21:38 <PovAddict> try updating project

21:39 <PovAddict> did you have them resent?

21:39 <MTughan> Nope.

21:40 <PovAddict> try again

21:41 <PovAddict> ok at least now they were marked "no reply"

21:41 <MTughan> Update's still going...

21:42 <MTughan> Looks like you're missing just 5 parts of the glasses now.

21:42 <MTughan> 2 minutes on the update...

21:44 <MTughan> According to BOINC's log, I never got t024.

21:44 <PovAddict> nope

21:44 <PovAddict> server sent it, and it got lost on the network

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21:44 <PovAddict> interestingly, I had resend_lost_results disabled!

21:45 <MTughan> lol

21:45 <Tank_Master> 2/4/2008 6:44:52 PM|IMP test|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks

21:45 <MTughan> I can't even get that...

21:45 <MTughan> 5 minutes since scheduler started...

21:45 <MTughan> Failed, timeout.

21:45 <Tank_Master> haha

21:45 <Tank_Master> lol

21:46 * MTughan is listening to Why by KJ-52 from Collaborations

21:46 <MTughan> "Why do they put Braille at a drive-up ATM?"

21:47 * Tank_Master is listening to "The After Hours" by "Paul Oakenfold"

21:48 <MTughan> There, update went through.

21:51 <MTughan> Holy crap... http://impfarm.imp.org/boinc/workunit.php?wuid=6619

21:51 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1V6e> (at impfarm.imp.org)

21:51 <MTughan> http://impfarm.imp.org/boinc/workunit.php?wuid=6611 too.

21:51 <Romulus> Title: Workunit details (at impfarm.imp.org)

21:51 <PovAddict> <.<

21:52 <PovAddict> wait I have one of those

21:52 * PovAddict reports

21:52 <MTughan> Those seem to be the last two pieces.

21:52 <PovAddict> there

21:52 <MTughan> Still leaves 6619.

21:52 <PovAddict> tomorrow I'll send the delete requests

21:53 <MTughan> andersn, TM, zombie, and Anonymous own those comps.

21:53 * PovAddict looks at Tank_Master

21:53 <Tank_Master> ?

21:53 <Tank_Master> what now?

21:53 <PovAddict> anim015_f0000_t091_1

21:53 <MTughan> One of your comps owns the last piece.

21:53 <Tank_Master> good for it

21:53 <PovAddict> lol

21:54 <MTughan> http://impfarm.imp.org/boinc/show_host_detail.php?hostid=132

21:54 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1V6h> (at impfarm.imp.org)

21:54 <Tank_Master> Im going to sell it to the highest bidder

21:54 <MTughan> lol

21:54 <MTughan> Hurry, before zombie or andersn gets it in.

21:54 <MTughan> Or Anonymous... http://impfarm.imp.org/boinc/show_host_detail.php?hostid=132

21:54 <PovAddict> too late

21:54 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1V6h> (at impfarm.imp.org)

21:54 <Tank_Master> its running

21:54 <PovAddict> zombie did

21:54 <Tank_Master> on a frikin snow P4

21:54 <MTughan> http://impfarm.imp.org/boinc/show_host_detail.php?hostid=33 *

21:54 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1V6j> (at impfarm.imp.org)

21:54 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: abort it if you want, tis done

21:55 <MTughan> Nice...

21:55 <Tank_Master> wont I still get credit?

21:55 <MTughan> PovAddict: How long did you bet it'd take to render that?

21:55 <Tank_Master> given that its currently running?

21:55 <PovAddict> 11 hours was my calculation

21:55 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: fine, if you want the credits, keep it running

21:55 <PovAddict> do you have any ready-to-start?

21:56 <Tank_Master> no

21:56 <Tank_Master> just 2 currently running

21:56 <PovAddict> ok

21:57 <MTughan> Not sure if you read it, but the night after you said someone had taken two days to do that on an Intel Dualcore, we figured out what the CPU probably was: a Celeron D.

21:57 <MTughan> I think it was TM, zombie, and me...

21:57 <xcamel> laterz...

21:57 * xcamel is away: Gone away for now.

21:57 *** xcamel is now known as xcamel_away

21:57 <MTughan> Bye Jay.

21:57 <PovAddict> ('twas a different scene)

21:57 <PovAddict> ok, now I wonder how to put the tiles together

21:58 <PovAddict> without taking a screenshot of the page :)

21:58 <MTughan> ffmpeg?

21:58 <PovAddict> ffmpeg = lots of frames -> video

21:58 <PovAddict> I want lots of tiles -> single big image

21:58 <PovAddict> time to write my own inefficient PHP script using GD I guess

21:58 <MTughan> PHP could probably do it... GIMP would work, but high on labour.

21:59 <Tank_Master> PovAddict is used to being in labor

21:59 <MTughan> Heh... Last piece in there, Anonymous got it in about 4 minutes after zombie.

22:00 <PovAddict> of course! now they all come together

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22:00 <Tank_Master> still have 3 min to go on my 2

22:01 <MTughan> 'lo mw

22:01 <Tank_Master> hiya mweltin

22:01 <mweltin> hello !

22:01 <MTughan> New person in #tsp...

22:03 <efc3> Dual quads, oh yeah

22:03 <Romulus> (in local currency) a ringtone could cost $3, yet a (legitimate) music CD costs $20-$25 and we wanted the bottles to explode.

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22:03 <MTughan> o_O

22:04 * Tank_Master slaps Romulus around a bit with a large trout

22:04 <Tank_Master> WE just got a new persion in ABC -

22:04 <Tank_Master> some 15 dual quad x64 servers

22:04 <PovAddict> http://impfarm.imp.org/~boincadm/sample_results/anim013.png

22:04 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1V6t> (at impfarm.imp.org)

22:05 <MTughan> Awesome...

22:05 <Tank_Master> so that what I just wasted my CPU cycles on?

22:05 <MTughan> Waste not, my good fellow.

22:05 <PovAddict> http://impfarm.imp.org/~boincadm/sample_results/stitch.phps

22:05 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1V6x> (at impfarm.imp.org)

22:05 <Tank_Master> last 2 WUs just sent up

22:06 <PovAddict> used cups.php as a sample (those loops were used for making the table with tile images too)

22:06 <PovAddict> wtf

22:06 <PovAddict> s/sample/template/ that makes some more sense

22:06 <PovAddict> or 'base' whatever

22:06 <MTughan> I like base, but they all work.

22:06 <PovAddict> all your base

22:06 <MTughan> lol

22:14 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: the scene was posted on a thread called "waste of time!" so you got that exactly right

22:16 <KathrynM> what the heck is exit code 193?

22:16 <PovAddict> &boincerr -193

22:16 <Romulus> PovAddict: invalid event

22:16 <PovAddict> o_o

22:16 <PovAddict> wait was it positive?

22:17 <KathrynM> 2008-02-05 12:14:09 [BOINC alpha test] Starting task wu_1201204201_8140_4 using                                                                              uppercase version 607

22:17 <KathrynM> *** stack smashing detected ***: uppercase_6.7_i686-pc-linux-gnu terminated

22:17 <KathrynM> 2008-02-05 12:14:10 [BOINC alpha test] Deferring communication for 1 min 0 sec

22:17 <KathrynM> 2008-02-05 12:14:10 [BOINC alpha test] Reason: Unrecoverable error for result wu                                                                             _1201204201_8140_4 (process exited with code 193 (0xc1, -63))

22:17 <KathrynM> that would be David's new uppercase version...

22:17 <PovAddict> stack smashing doesn't sound any good

22:17 <PovAddict> &boincerr -63

22:17 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: I couldn't find -63 in boincerr.

22:17 <MTughan> &boincerr 193

22:17 <Romulus> MTughan: Error: I couldn't find 193 in boincerr.

22:17 <PovAddict> figures

22:17 <KathrynM> OK.  I"ll email David

22:18 <MTughan> I like the name though. "Stack smashing"... Sounds like a monster.

22:18 <KathrynM> LOL

22:18 <KathrynM> I don't know much, but I have a feeling smashing the stack is never a good thing

22:18 <MTughan> lol

22:20 <PovAddict> can't find it grepping unix include files

22:23 <KathrynM> PovAddict, have fun  http://isaac.ssl.berkeley.edu/alpha/result.php?resultid=1601483

22:23 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1V7:> (at isaac.ssl.berkeley.edu)

22:23 <PovAddict> error connecting shared memory

22:26 <MTughan> Stack smashing?

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22:26 <MTughan> 'lo Doug

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22:35 <wdsmia> *lo Michael

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22:50 <MTughan> Gotta be off to bed early tonight...

22:50 <KathrynM> night MTughan

22:50 <KathrynM> I'm back to work.  GOtta pile of papers to grade :-/

22:50 <MTughan> lol, me to bed, you to work.

22:51 <MTughan> Still in Korea I gather. iStat tells me it's almost 1PM there. :P

22:51 <MTughan> Almost 11PM here. Previous day.

22:52 <efc3> wow, that is a ton of heatsinks bolted on that dual quad mb

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23:06 <PovAddict> bed ->

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23:33 <wdsmia> &weather 50319

23:33 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 34F / 1C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 29.88in / 1012hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Cloudy. Areas of fog. Low in the upper 20s. North wind around 10 mph.; Tuesday - Cloudy. A chance of snow in the morning...then snow likely in the afternoon. Snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches. High around 30. North wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance (1 more message)

23:33 <wdsmia> &more

23:33 <Romulus> wdsmia: of snow 70 percent.; Tuesday Night - Snow likely. Colder. Snow accumulation of 3 to 6 inches. Total snow accumulation 4 to 8 inches. Low 15 to 20. North wind 15 to 20 mph. Chance of snow 70 percent.; Winter Storm Watch for Polk County in effect until 9:00 AM CST on February 06, 2008;

23:37 * Tank_Master_ wants snow

23:38 *** Tank_Master_ is now known as Tank_Master

23:38 <wdsmia> you can have it

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