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03:43 <CoderForLife> morning any and all

03:43 <KathrynM> mornin CoderForLife

03:43 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

03:43 <CoderForLife> heya KathrynM

03:43 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 62.4F / 16.9C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.87in / 1011.4hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 4.2mph / 6.8km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy. A chance of showers this evening...then showers likely with a chance of thunderstorms after midnight. Temperatures nearly steady in the upper 50s. South winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of rain 60 (2 more messages)

03:43 <KathrynM> i want your weather

03:43 <CoderForLife> &more

03:43 <Romulus> CoderForLife: percent.; Tuesday - Showers with a chance of thunderstorms. Locally heavy rainfall possible. Near record highs in the mid 60s. Southwest winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Tuesday Night - Showers with a chance of thunderstorms. Locally heavy rainfall possible. Lows in the upper 40s. Southwest winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of rain 100 (1 more message)

03:43 <CoderForLife> flood warnings

03:44 <KathrynM> well.  without the floods

03:44 <CoderForLife> lol

03:44 <KathrynM> my toes are freezing.  my arpartment hasn't warmed up yet.

03:44 <CoderForLife> sure - I want that too =)

03:44 <CoderForLife> &more

03:44 <Romulus> CoderForLife: percent.; Areal Flood Watch for Hamilton County in effect until 9:00 AM EST on February 06, 2008;

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03:48 <CoderForLife> brb  breakfast and tree breaking sound outside

03:48 <KathrynM> uh oh

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04:07 <CoderForLife> back

04:08 <KathrynM> tree ok?

04:08 <CoderForLife> I found one of the bird feeders had been pulled over, nearly touching the ground

04:09 <CoderForLife> went out in the dark, and moved it over 6 inches, and twisted the pole back into the ground

04:09 <CoderForLife> too many trees around and too dark to see which tree was making the cracking sound

04:10 <KathrynM> hope everything is ok.

04:11 <CoderForLife> thx

04:11 <CoderForLife> I don't think I'll be "off to see the wizard" soon =)

04:12 <Bad_At_Home> mORNIN ALL

04:12 <KathrynM> phew.  Well. That's good news

04:12 <KathrynM> mornin Bad_At_Home

04:12 <Bad_At_Home> Opps

04:12 <CoderForLife> Hello Arizona

04:12 <Bad_At_Home> Howdy CFL

04:12 <CoderForLife> Hello from Ohio

04:13 <Bad_At_Home> &weather 86023

04:13 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Temperature: -2F / -19C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 30.06in / 1018hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Partly cloudy. Near steady temperature around 15. Light winds.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Highs around 25 on the North Rim to around 45 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Tuesday Night - Mostly clear. Lows around 4 above on the North (1 more message)

04:13 <Bad_At_Home> &more

04:13 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Rim to around 13 along the Colorado River. Light winds.;

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04:14 <KathrynM> evenin clusty

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04:14 <clusty> ahoy

04:16 <KathrynM> a slightly early happy lunar new year to all of you :)

04:18 <CoderForLife> bbiab

04:28 <CoderForLife> b

04:39 <FreeLarry58> happy luninous to you too KathrynM

04:40 * FreeLarry58 hates the feeling when colds first start to show signs of coming on

04:43 <KathrynM> chicken soup FreeLarry58

04:45 <FreeLarry58> dayquil for now KathrynM

04:45 <FreeLarry58> need to hit store tomorrow for other items

04:45 <Romulus> Kind of liked him in iptables be worthless?

04:46 * FreeLarry58 wonders how iptables would taste - can you elaborate Romulus

04:47 * KathrynM thinks they would taste pretty bad

04:47 <FreeLarry58> humm maybe it would stimulate the taste buds then

04:47 <FreeLarry58> ;)

04:48 <CoderForLife> morning FreeLarry58 clusty

04:48 <FreeLarry58> morn CoderForLife

04:49 <clusty> moin

04:49 <CoderForLife> yum iptables

04:49 <CoderForLife> that is, if you want to update them

04:49 <KathrynM> lol

04:49 <KathrynM> I was just going to say something like that

04:49 <KathrynM> Someone asked me if I had yum when I was starting out with Ubuntu.

04:49 <CoderForLife> I knewthat

04:50 <FreeLarry58> a little salt and pepper please

04:50 <KathrynM> My response was "Yum?  Isn't that what I teach my kids to say when something tastes good."

04:50 <KathrynM> How far I've come :)

04:50 <CoderForLife> or how far you've gone =)

04:50 <KathrynM> lol

04:51 <CoderForLife> I'm hosting a training session at work today, tomorrow and Thursday

04:52 * FreeLarry58 will avoid then - FreeLarry58 is completely untrainable

04:53 <CoderForLife> "Windows Vista SP1 Set For Launch, Microsoft Says.  The operating system update includes more than 300 hot fixes for everything from data protection to video performance."

04:54 <FreeLarry58> right - fixes to make drm even more restrictive probably

04:54 <CoderForLife> but...

04:54 <CoderForLife> "All this comes with a caveat, however. Nash said Microsoft has learned that Vista SP1 is not compatible with "a small set of device drivers" used by some PCs. Vista SP1 won't install on those PCs until an update is available for the drivers, Nash said."

04:54 * KathrynM thinks I'll wait on updating my vista partition. Not like I ever use it.

04:55 <FreeLarry58> thats because it likes to disable device drivers it cant controll

04:55 <CoderForLife> like to one for CPUs running at less that 2 GHz

04:55 <CoderForLife> like the*

04:56 <FreeLarry58> lol yup or vid cards so old that drm not recognized

04:56 <CoderForLife> like the ones*

04:56 <CoderForLife> "DOS is not done until Lotus won't run"

04:57 <FreeLarry58> or cd/dvd with no programable chips to disable viewing

05:03 <CoderForLife> plink

05:04 <FreeLarry58> humm wonder how many ip's got changed due to those lines near egypt getting cut so that the spammers going out on new ip's

05:05 <CoderForLife> that's what I need - new worries

05:05 <FreeLarry58> yah - and probably will continue after they get them repaired

05:12 <CoderForLife> well - I'm going to start heading towards w@#%

05:12 <CoderForLife> cya nice folks later, and you too FreeLarry58 =)

05:14 <KathrynM> laters CoderForLife

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05:24 <Romulus> <> (at

05:44 <xcamel_away> boo

05:45 <Bad_At_Home> Mornin Jay

05:49 <clusty> whenever I am writing some file in windoze some weird ^M's appear at each line. i assume its the famous end of line chars

05:49 <clusty> how can I tell linux to trash them?

05:52 <KathrynM> unix2dos?

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05:53 <clusty> i need other way around

05:54 <KathrynM> dos2unix then :)

05:54 <clusty> rite

05:54 <clusty> :D

05:54 <clusty> ...if only all things were logical :D

05:54 <KathrynM> I only know because I was reading about it the other day

05:55 <clusty> take boinc for ex

05:55 <clusty> totally ilogical

05:55 <KathrynM> lol

05:55 <clusty> he did not give any loving for a week now

05:55 <KathrynM> So I emailed David about my invalid uppercase work on BOINC alpha

05:55 <clusty> :D

05:55 <KathrynM> He responded that it was an old LInux version and updated the app.

05:55 <KathrynM> I ran a few at lunch.  They crashed immediately :)

05:56 <KathrynM> So I emailed him back telling him that what he did definitely didn't fix the invalid problem

05:56 <clusty> well all ancient scripts are choking

05:56 <clusty> like automakes

05:56 <clusty> and bash stuff

05:56 <clusty> anyways

05:56 <clusty> off to lunch. back in 20min

05:56 <KathrynM> have a good lunch clusty

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06:19 <MTughan> Off to school.

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06:21 <hawmps> 'lo

06:22 <wdsmia> mornin Jay

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06:34 <wdsmia> &weather 50319

06:34 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 32F / 0C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h ; Today - Cloudy. A chance of sleet in the morning. A chance of snow in the morning...then snow in the afternoon. Snow and sleet accumulation of 1 to 2 inches. High in the lower 30s. Temperature steady or slowly falling in the afternoon. North wind 10 to 15 mph (2 more messages)

06:35 <wdsmia> &more

06:35 <Romulus> wdsmia: with gusts to around 25 mph. Chance of precipitation 90 percent.; Tonight - Snow and isolated thunderstorms in the evening...then snow after midnight. Areas of blowing snow through the night. Colder. Snow accumulation of 5 to 7 inches. Total snow accumulation 6 to 9 inches. Low 15 to 20. North wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Wednesday - Areas of (1 more message)

06:35 <wdsmia> &more

06:35 <Romulus> wdsmia: blowing snow in the morning. Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of snow in the morning...then partly sunny in the afternoon. High in the mid 20s. Northwest wind 10 to 20 mph.; Winter Storm Warning for Polk County in effect until 12:00 PM CST on February 06, 2008;

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07:05 <hawmps> ugly rain here..

07:05 <Romulus> hey xcamel and you will have the permission to save the logs (captured from the command will do, I'm curious how long each?

07:05 <hawmps> &weather 12020

07:05 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 35.0F / 1.7C | Humidity: 96% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008.0hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Patchy fog this morning. Rain with isolated thunderstorms this morning...then a chance of rain showers this afternoon. Highs in the lower 40s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 90 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy. A chance of rain in the (1 more message)

07:06 <hawmps> &more

07:06 <Romulus> hawmps: evening...then rain after midnight. Lows in the mid 30s. West winds around 5 mph in the evening...becoming light and variable. Chance of rain 80 percent.; Wednesday - Rain. Highs around 40. South winds around 5 mph... becoming north in the afternoon. Chance of rain 90 percent.;

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07:24 <_Danilo_> hi to all

07:24 <KathrynM> hi _Danilo_

07:25 <_Danilo_> hi KathrynM

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08:28 <PovAddic_> <.<

08:28 <PovAddic_> my other computer is "locked"

08:29 <PovAddic_> trying to access it from this computer, absolutely everything seems to work; yet screen is black and keyboard doesn't even respond to numlock toggle

08:29 <KathrynM> ouch

08:29 <PovAddic_> webserver, boinc, etc. all running just fine!

08:29 <KathrynM> what is it with computer problems tonight?

08:29 <PovAddic_> I can access all that from this other comp

08:30 <PovAddic_> ask seti

08:30 <KathrynM> lol

08:30 <PovAddic_> aliens are disturbing our CPUs

08:30 <KathrynM> I tried again to get linux to install on the new pc

08:30 <KathrynM> no luck

08:30 <PovAddic_> anyway, dunno what to do here...

08:30 <KathrynM> kick it?

08:30 <PovAddic_> at least I know it's not kernel-locked and bluescreened, since stuff works

08:30 <PovAddic_> so I won't do a hard reset

08:31 <KathrynM> that's positive

08:31 <PovAddic_> I hate it when everything is working on the background yet due to some stupid hanged process like winlogon i need to *reset*

08:31 <PovAddic_> o well... I'll try a remote reboot

08:32 <KathrynM> and in the last 10 minutes I've learned more about stack smashing than I ever wanted to know...

08:32 <Romulus> lets keep as few variables changing.

08:32 <KathrynM> not that I really understand it...  but I've got a general idea

08:32 <PovAddic_> or not, Romulus

08:32 <KathrynM> more fun to vary them all at once

08:32 <KathrynM> and i tried to yum update and had it fail to resolve dependencies :-/

08:33 <KathrynM> I think I need to get away from computers for a while

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08:33 <PovAddic_> I see processes being killed... good, it's rebooting

08:33 <PovAddic_> there I go lol

08:33 <KathrynM> having a few multiple personalities?

08:34 <PovAddic_> waiting for ping response

08:34 <PovAddic_> bah I'll just go downstairs and watch it reboot

08:34 <PovAddic_> omg crap *runs*

08:35 <PovAddic_> got too late

08:35 <KathrynM> what happened?

08:36 <PovAddic_> I remembered the bootloader starts ubuntu by default, and I was supposed to be there in the 10 second countdown it gives to change the selected OS :)

08:36 <KathrynM> ah yes.  been there, done that

08:36 <PovAddic_> by the time I got there it was almost done booting ubuntu

08:37 <PovAddic_> I saw some suggestions for OS-switch reboots...

08:37 <PovAddic_> because for example say you're on Linux, want to boot Windows

08:37 <PovAddic_> you reboot, wander away... by the time you come back it already finished rebooting Linux

08:38 <KathrynM> I've never done that...

08:38 <KathrynM> LOL

08:38 <PovAddic_> if you're easily distracted, you could need several "tries"

08:38 <PovAddic_> so, how about a "reboot to Windows" button, that changes the default OS on the bootloader and *then* reboots

08:39 <PovAddic_> so that you don't need to be physically there to change the selection

08:39 <KathrynM> that's a nifty idea

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08:42 <PovAddic_> getting outta here

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08:43 <KathrynM> lol

08:52 <hawmps> 3/4+" of rain/sleet over night...

08:52 <hawmps> generally "yuk"

08:52 <KathrynM> ick

08:54 <PovAddict> lol

08:55 <PovAddict> Kevin Erickson: "Willy, that calculator is going to make people go out and buy more computers!"

08:55 <KathrynM> :)

08:55 <PovAddict> Willy: "That's great! Buy them at the company I work at"

08:55 <KathrynM> lol

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09:36 <Bad_At_Home> &weather 86023

09:36 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Temperature: -14F / -25.6C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: in / hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 2mph / 3.2km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs around 24 on the North Rim to around 48 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 4 above on the North Rim to around 12 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Wednesday - Not as cold. Partly cloudy. (1 more message)

09:36 <Bad_At_Home> &more

09:36 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Highs around 35 on the North Rim to around 53 along the Colorado River. Light winds.;

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10:07 <FreeLarry58> morn

10:07 *** old511 is now known as old

10:07 * old is back - L.A.S.F. - Later all Simper Fi - 4w.1d.16h.57m.12s

10:07 <old> &weather 87321

10:07 <Romulus> old: Temperature: -8F / -22.2C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: in / hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 1mph / 1.6km/h ; Today - Partly cloudy with isolated snow showers in the morning... then mostly sunny in the afternoon. Highs in the 20s to mid 30s. Northwest winds 10 to 20 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Colder. Lows zero to 15. Northwest winds 10 to 20 mph.; Wednesday - Mostly sunny. (1 more message)

10:07 <FreeLarry58> hows nm this winter

10:08 <old> Darn cold Larry :) how are you ?

10:08 * FreeLarry58 shivers at that weather

10:08 <FreeLarry58> fare to muddling along old

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10:09 <old> We have about 15" of white stuff on the ground and this is the second day school is closed

10:09 <FreeLarry58> just raining fairly hard here currently - they projecting about 2 ft of snow in mountains in next 48 hrs here

10:09 <FreeLarry58> I90 has been shut down a lot during last week for avalance control or cleanups

10:10 <old> Looks like we need to cut down some rainforests and put some more Co@ in the air :(

10:11 <old> Co2

10:11 <FreeLarry58> lol its getting there

10:12 <FreeLarry58> well time to go get coffee and hit atm

10:12 <old> lots of people don't belive it you know, but if those curents shut down we will be in an ice age before you know it

10:12 <FreeLarry58> bbl

10:12 <old> see you be carful Dana

10:12 <Tank_Master> I want snow, dangit!

10:13 <old> old's back to work on dule core see you all laters :)

10:13 <FreeLarry58> move to snoqualmi pass

10:13 <FreeLarry58> ohh new dually

10:13 <old> Lo there Tank ,where are you ?

10:13 <Tank_Master> thats not to far from here

10:13 <Tank_Master> Or

10:14 <Tank_Master> near portland

10:15 <old> Tank you there ?

10:15 <old> sorry

10:15 <old> :)

10:17 <old> I used to live in suthern CAL out in the desert sort of ,way out Riverside way , then Fla and finialy back to CA and now finially we are are setteled in Rama NM about 50 miles south of Gallup NM at about 6,800 FT and loven it :)

10:18 <wdsmia_w> *lo Dana

10:18 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

10:18 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 41.5F / 5.3C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1021.9hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Today - Rain. Highs around 45. South wind 15 to 20 mph becoming southwest wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to 30 mph in the afternoon.; Tonight - Showers. Snow level 1000 feet in the evening. Local 1 inch snow accumulation. Lows around 35. Southwest (1 more message)

10:18 <Tank_Master> &more

10:19 <Romulus> Tank_Master: wind 5 to 15 mph.; Wednesday - A chance of showers in the morning...then rain likely in the afternoon. Highs 40 to 45. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph.;

10:19 <old> had 20 years of Marine Corp civilian apperation, and am now 100% dissabled because of a very bad back LOL

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10:20 <old> wdsmia hellow how are you :) sorry it's been so long but have been out of it, am finialy comming round and have started to get my farm fired up again :)

10:22 <old> Hows the crew everybody OK and hows SPIT ?

10:22 <wdsmia_w> things are good except for the weather

10:22 <old> you got snow too ?

10:22 <PovAddict> &seen Spit_theDog

10:22 <Romulus> PovAddict: Spit_theDog was last seen in #boinc 37 weeks, 6 days, 4 hours, 53 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <Spit_theDog> Bye for now all :)

10:22 <PovAddict> we know nothing about her

10:23 <Tank_Master> long time

10:23 <old> Pov you lurker you :) hows it ?

10:23 * Tank_Master slaps PovAddict around a bit with a large trout

10:24 <old> I've tried to send her e-mails etc last time I saw her was when she got on the train dow here at Gallup ?

10:25 <old> anything from TGG ?

10:26 <old> &seen_The Gas Gaint

10:26 <Romulus> No idea, old.

10:26 <Tank_Master> you have a _ in the wrong place

10:27 <Tank_Master> its thinking the command it &seen_the

10:27 <Tank_Master> is*

10:27 <old> been so long the bots have changed and I am lost as usuail ,

10:28 <wdsmia_w>

10:30 <old> &seen The_Gas Giant

10:30 <Romulus> old: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself.

10:30 <PovAddict> &seen TheGasGiant

10:30 <Romulus> PovAddict: TheGasGiant was last seen in #boinc 2 weeks, 2 days, 19 hours, 31 minutes, and 1 second ago: <TheGasGiant> heya eddie

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10:31 <old> &eight ball

10:31 <Romulus> I have no idea!

10:31 <old> &eightball

10:31 <Romulus> old: The outlook is hazy, please ask again later.

10:32 <old> ok I am going to lurk aroud you all I want to get this dule core running before the warernties run out on all this junk LOL

10:32 <Tank_Master> &8ball Will I get snow?

10:32 <Romulus> Tank_Master: You're kidding, right?

10:33 <Tank_Master> figures

10:33 <old> LOL

10:33 <wdsmia_w> &weather 50319

10:33 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 32F / 0C | Humidity: 85% | Pressure: 30.03in / 1017hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h ; Rest of Today - Snow likely late in the morning...then snow in the afternoon. New snow accumulation around 2 inches. High in the lower 30s. Temperature steady or slowly falling in the afternoon. North wind 10 to 20 mph. Chance of snow 90 percent.; Tonight (2 more messages)

10:33 <wdsmia_w> &more

10:33 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: - Snow and isolated thunderstorms in the evening...then snow after midnight. Areas of blowing snow through the night. Colder. Snow accumulation of 5 to 7 inches. Total snow accumulation 7 to 9 inches. Low 15 to 20. North wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Wednesday - Areas of blowing snow in the morning. Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of snow in (1 more message)

10:33 <wdsmia_w> &more

10:33 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: the morning...then partly sunny in the afternoon. High in the mid 20s. Northwest wind 10 to 20 mph.; Winter Storm Warning for Polk County in effect until 12:00 PM CST on February 06, 2008;

10:34 <old> &weather 87321

10:34 <Romulus> old: Temperature: 11.6F / -11.3C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 29.74in / 1007.0hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly cloudy with isolated snow showers in the morning... then mostly sunny in the afternoon. Highs in the 20s to mid 30s. Northwest winds 10 to 20 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Colder. Lows zero to 15. Northwest winds 10 to 20 mph.; Wednesday - (1 more message)

10:34 <old> &more

10:34 <Romulus> old: Mostly sunny. Breezy. Not as cold. Highs in the mid 30s to lower 40s. West winds 10 to 20 mph increasing to 15 to 25 mph in the afternoon.;

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11:09 <PovAddict> I knew it...

11:16 <FreeLarry58> is glad PovAddict knows something -- FreeLarry58 knows nothing ;0

11:16 <PovAddict> 5.10.40 coming soon

11:18 <FreeLarry58> oh my - i'ms still on .28 and .30

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11:58 <PovAddict> it's out

11:58 <PovAddict> &factoids change windows 1 s/39/40/

11:58 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

11:58 <PovAddict> &windows

11:58 <Romulus> PovAddict: "windows" could be

11:58 <PovAddict> &factoids change win64 1 s/39/40/

11:58 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

12:00 <zombie67> pov:  I thought you said there would be more work after the quick job?

12:00 <PovAddict> yep and you crunched all thru it

12:01 <zombie67> oh.  i misunderstood

12:01 <PovAddict> all same anim015

12:01 <PovAddict> the first few and the last few took like 3 seconds

12:01 <zombie67> the stuff I crunched through, I thought that was the pre-job.   okay

12:02 <PovAddict> there were some that took over 15 minutes

12:02 <zombie67> if you want to crunch for proteins, do it quickly!

12:02 <Romulus> <> (at

12:02 <PovAddict> I had an account long ago

12:02 <PovAddict> never crunched :)

12:02 <PovAddict> I got the account while it was open

12:09 <zombie67> it is still open

12:09 <PovAddict> no, it's open again

12:11 <zombie67> are you talking about the whole project, or account creation?  Yes, the project just restarted, but account creation has always been open.

12:12 <PovAddict> then I misunderstood a forum post

12:13 <zombie67> well, it's been open at least since I started crunching in Dec 2006

12:15 <zombie67> yoyo down again?

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12:18 <TMatWork> it was up?

12:18 <TMatWork> hehe

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12:23 <zombie67> bbl

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12:39 <PovAddict> I may have a solution to dynamic tiling, to make all workunits take similar time

13:02 <PovAddict> 5.10.40 announced, Rom asks to stress-test uploads and downloads

13:03 <hawmps> ah.. winduhs only

13:03 <PovAddict> yes, for now

13:04 <PovAddict> I updated the factoids already

13:05 <hawmps> I see that

13:16 <old> *lo Jay

13:19 <old> later all

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13:37 <sethy> hai ppl

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13:37 <PovAddict> hai

13:38 <sethy> what day is it tomowwor?

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13:38 <PovAddict> I know :)

13:38 <sethy> 'scuse the language/grammar/spelling, a little ti[sey

13:38 <sethy> tipsey

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13:49 <sethy> well for those who sont know, i'm 17 in 6 houtrs

13:49 <Soul_keeper> lol that's not very long to sober up ...

13:49 <Soul_keeper> what you gonna do when grandma wants a hug ?

13:50 <desti> you are our youngster?

13:50 <sethy> i'm still the youngest here desti

13:51 <sethy> slao sk, ganrdma is  like far faway and/ on the other sdide of family

13:51 <sethy> shoud i be here if im like thipsy?

13:52 <Soul_keeper> well i've had 3 gallons of tea and a gallon of coffee ...

13:53 <Soul_keeper> i try to keep my abuses legal ...

13:57 <Soul_keeper> [PLAYING] [00:49:783] Of Mice And Men .:. Megadeth .:. The System Has Failed .:. Track 10

13:57 <Soul_keeper> listen to that song sethy :)

13:58 <sethy> i cant

13:58 <sethy> i dont have

13:58 <sethy> get me tooyoube link

13:59 <PovAddict> desti: yes he is, I pwn him by 2 months

13:59 <sethy> you mean i pwn you by 2 month

14:00 <PovAddict> in the sense of "I came first", "I'm older than yoo"

14:00 <sethy> in the sence that "you will die before me"

14:00 <Soul_keeper> maybe a drunken duel is in order ...

14:00 <sethy> FXCKING YUGIOH

14:01 <Soul_keeper> lol

14:01 <sethy> or pokemon

14:01 <sethy> maybe i should challenge you to a game of minesweeper

14:03 <Soul_keeper> he's scared, you'd win

14:03 <sethy> Currently listening to: 10-megadeth_-_of_mice_and_men-qtxmp3.mp3 (4:05) [44kHz,229kbps(VBR),Stereo]

14:06 <sethy> not all that good

14:06 <sethy> Currently listening to: Nothern Lights.mp3 (4:10) [44kHz,172kbps(VBR),Stereo]

14:10 <Soul_keeper> [PLAYING] [03:38:012] Fightin' Words .:. Trace Adkins .:. Dangerous Man .:. Track 9

14:16 <hawmps> sethy listens to Renaissance?

14:16 <sethy> 403 forbiddena?

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14:21 <wickedwackguy> hi

14:21 <sethy> hy

14:21 <wickedwackguy> anybody here running boinc on a linux PC?

14:21 <Soul_keeper> of course

14:22 <wickedwackguy> how come when i try to execute the SH file it says permission denied even as root?

14:22 <Romulus> you missed the point

14:22 <sethy> no he didnt

14:23 <Soul_keeper> wickedwackguy,  chmod +x filename

14:23 <wickedwackguy> i tried "./

14:23 <Soul_keeper> you have to set it executable for bash

14:23 <wickedwackguy> ok lets try that then

14:23 <wickedwackguy> brb

14:25 <wickedwackguy> you guys rock

14:25 <wickedwackguy> thnx

14:26 <wickedwackguy> it unpacked

14:26 <wickedwackguy> lets hope the installation worx

14:30 <wickedwackguy> yoohoo!

14:30 <wickedwackguy> it worx!

14:30 <wickedwackguy> thanks alot!

14:31 <hawmps> just a second.. it's better not to "install it"

14:31 <Romulus> PovAddic1: Because benje talked before.

14:31 <wickedwackguy> i didnt inatll it

14:31 <hawmps> just extract it all to it's own dir and run it form there...

14:31 <wickedwackguy> i just started the app

14:32 <hawmps> running as console mode?

14:32 <wickedwackguy> no

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14:33 <wickedwackguy> with the manager

14:33 <hawmps> you used './run_manager' ?

14:34 <wickedwackguy> yep

14:34 <hawmps> ok.. now you can make a desktop link to that inclufing the icon, and you're all set..

14:34 <hawmps> er.. including, even

14:35 <wickedwackguy> to what?

14:35 <wickedwackguy> the windows?

14:35 <wickedwackguy> window*

14:35 <hawmps> yun_manager, in the BOINC directory..

14:35 <wickedwackguy> ahhh

14:35 <wickedwackguy> ok

14:35 <hawmps> cripes - can't type..

14:35 <wickedwackguy> gotcha

14:36 <hawmps> then you don't need to run it from a console command - just click the icon..

14:36 <wickedwackguy> yep

14:36 <hawmps> ...crunch ayay then....

14:37 * hawmps smashes keyboard on floor and stomps it but good.

14:37 <wickedwackguy> its been a while since i have messed with linux

14:37 <hawmps> there, now it works...

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14:38 <wickedwackguy> now i just need to figure out how to auto connect to my network...

14:41 <wickedwackguy> dir

14:41 <wickedwackguy> dir

14:41 <wickedwackguy> oops

14:41 <wickedwackguy> wrong keyboard

14:41 <sethy> dur

14:41 <sethy> ?

14:41 <wickedwackguy> xD

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14:43 <wickedwackguy> hmmm... strange... SETI is not availible

14:43 <wickedwackguy> oh well

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14:48 <wickedwackguy> ok im off to bed

14:49 <wickedwackguy> thanks again for the help

14:49 <wickedwackguy> gn8

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15:51 <StrawberryAngel> I need help setting up the Boinc Manager in Ubuntu

15:53 <xcamel_away> just a sec..

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15:54 <xcamel> still there?

15:54 <StrawberryAngel> yes

15:54 <xcamel> did you download it yet?

15:54 <StrawberryAngel> The boinc servers are down for amaintenance rite now

15:54 <StrawberryAngel> yes

15:55 <StrawberryAngel> I have the Boinc Manager downloaded

15:55 <xcamel> it's really simple to do, so move the download to what ever directory you usually use..

15:57 <StrawberryAngel> its opened on its own desktop

15:57 <xcamel> the .sh file?

15:58 <StrawberryAngel> Im running Ubuntu 7.10

15:58 <xcamel> ok..

15:59 <xcamel> when you download it, move it to your home directory, open a console and cd to that dir...

15:59 <StrawberryAngel> ok

16:00 <xcamel> then you type sh <the boinc dlwload filename>.sh and it created a BOINC dir un that directory..

16:00 <xcamel> er.. n that directory even

16:00 <xcamel> geeez I can't type today..

16:01 <PovAddict> lol

16:01 <xcamel> ah shaddap, PoV

16:01 <wdsmia_w> lol

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16:01 <PovAddict> fine, go on helping

16:01 * PovAddict shaddaps

16:01 <xcamel> hehehe...

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16:03 <xcamel> StrawberryAngel: everyone here is very helpful...

16:03 <xcamel> and more than a tad crazy most days..

16:03 <PovAddict> we're helpful when we behave

16:04 <StrawberryAngel> ok...its takes awhile for things to sink in

16:04 <xcamel> lol - welcome to our world..

16:05 <xcamel> now - a touchy question... you run as a user, or as root?

16:07 <xcamel> or I should put it  Do you log on as a user, or as root?

16:08 <xcamel> either one is ok, really.

16:09 <StrawberryAngel> first log on as user.   then psudo

16:10 <xcamel> great... that works.

16:10 <xcamel> got the file moved to your favorite directory?

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16:11 <StrawberryAngel> still working on it

16:12 <xcamel> if you used firefox and it put it on the desktop, it makes it a little harder...

16:13 <xcamel> I think you could right-click on it and select 'move to..'

16:13 <MTughan> File troubles?

16:13 <xcamel> not really...

16:13 <xcamel> Hi Mike

16:13 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

16:14 <xcamel> Firefox is a pest that way...

16:14 <MTughan> You can set where files are downloaded.

16:15 <MTughan> And info for anyone who's been following my Manager. Tasks now show up.

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16:15 <MTughan> PovAddict: How do I get an application name from a RESULT obj?

16:15 <xcamel> indeed you can... we're working on getting a file moved to someplace we can work with it..

16:16 <MTughan> mv <file> <new_folder>

16:16 <xcamel> ubunny install of boinc on ubunny 7.10

16:17 <xcamel> it can be frustrating for new *nix users

16:18 <MTughan> Sure.

16:18 <MTughan> The run_manager script can run from a double-click in the GUI on Fedora.

16:18 <MTughan> It has the option to run a shell script from there.

16:18 <xcamel> yup..

16:19 <xcamel> the .sh package gives you a cleaner and more manageable installation

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16:19 <xcamel> the .rpm's really kind of muck things up..

16:19 <MTughan> Oh, the bot...

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16:20 <MTughan> PovAddict: How do I get an application name from a RESULT obj?

16:21 <xcamel> damnifiknow..

16:23 <xcamel> did we lose you, Angel?

16:25 <StrawberryAngel> ill work on it later thank you

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16:26 <xcamel> we'll be here..

16:26 <xcamel> zom-bony!

16:28 <zombie67> hello

16:28 <MTughan> 'lo zombie

16:29 <xcamel> There was a really funny poster about that - Mike would like it if he's a hocky fan...

16:29 <MTughan> Not much, no.

16:29 <zombie67> hi MT

16:29 <xcamel> er hockey even...

16:38 <xcamel> aw crap.. the picture is gone...

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16:58 <StrawberryAngel> I did it...i got it running by: sudo apt-get install boinc-client boinc-manager

17:01 <xcamel> got graphics?

17:01 <StrawberryAngel> yes

17:01 <xcamel> ok..

17:01 <xcamel> hope the version isn't too old..

17:02 <xcamel> but as long as it works... who cares, right?

17:02 <MTughan> DA. :P

17:03 <StrawberryAngel> the project servers are down so they go me on hold

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17:06 <StrawberryAngel> Boinc Manager is v5.10.8

17:06 <xcamel> oh friggin great...

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17:07 <xcamel> "chance of prolonged icing possible for late wednesday into thursday"

17:07 <MTughan> 5.10.8?! Dang, that's old...

17:08 <xcamel> that's the rpm's...

17:08 <MTughan> Yep...

17:08 <xcamel> and they spread boinc all over your system

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17:08 <xcamel> generally, making a mess of it..

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17:14 <wdsmia_w> well almost time to strap on the snow shoes and dig out the truck for the drive home

17:15 <wdsmia_w> bbl

17:15 <MTughan> lol, see ya.

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17:18 <xcamel> I think there is going to be a ton of really ugly weather around the midwest tonight

17:18 <StrawberryAngel> I dont have the graphics, but einstein@home is running and im waiting for seti@home to start

17:19 <xcamel> screensaver or the gui_manager?

17:20 <StrawberryAngel> ill see if the screensaver is available

17:20 <PovAddict> click Show Graphics button

17:21 <StrawberryAngel> i dont have a show graphics button on this one

17:21 <xcamel> the only boinc with running boinc_gui is the ubunny version 5.10.28

17:22 <PovAddict> StrawberryAngel:

17:25 <StrawberryAngel>

17:25 <StrawberryAngel> i have that version but not the one im running now

17:26 <PovAddict> 5.10.8 has a working manager

17:37 <MTughan> Whoa... We got loners on the boinc social map!

17:37 <MTughan> zombie and TM's work.

17:38 <PovAddict> zombie67: see this and the following posts

17:38 <Romulus> <> (at

17:39 <MTughan>

17:39 <zombie67> pov:  yeah, saw that

17:39 <Romulus> <> (at

17:39 <MTughan> Tasks are up and working.

17:39 <PovAddict> glassy glass

17:40 <MTughan> zombie67: If you wanted at this point, it does work for the most part with localhost.

17:42 <xcamel> nice looking 'top

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17:56 <wdsmia> re-hi

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17:58 <xcamel> made it home ok..

17:59 <wdsmia> weather no problem... idiots on the road are another matter

17:59 <PovAddict> lol

18:00 <xcamel> always..

18:00 * wdsmia loves his 4x4 this time of year

18:02 <xcamel> ditto..

18:03 <xcamel> two more wheels to take you directly to the scene of the accident....

18:03 <wdsmia> 260 pounds of tube sand in the back and it will go almost anywhere

18:05 <zombie67> Hi MT, Lemme finish a CPDN beta 2 WU first (by tomorrow).  I'll try it out then.

18:05 <PovAddict> zombie67: you don't need to run out the work

18:05 <PovAddict> it connects to your running client

18:05 <PovAddict> it's just the GUI

18:06 <zombie67> still....

18:06 <PovAddict> heh

18:06 <Romulus> I'm off to the War Channel

18:06 <zombie67> I would hate to mess it up somehow, and loose 250 hours of crunching

18:06 <MTughan> I'm running it on my client.

18:07 <PovAddict> yeah like what if MTughan got suspend and abort buttons swapped...

18:07 <zombie67> heh, exactly

18:07 <zombie67> going to drop my mom off at the airport now.  bbl

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18:07 <PovAddict> hey lets try the suspend button with multiple selection! *multiabort*

18:08 <MTughan> I know suspend works, I just tried it.

18:08 <MTughan> brb

18:08 <PovAddict> Obj-C seems interesting...

18:08 <PovAddict> a dynamic language that almost feels like scripting, yet you *still* have evil stuff like pointers!

18:08 <PovAddict> :D

18:10 <sethy> T-50 minutes

18:10 <PovAddict> :D

18:10 <sethy> :D

18:10 <sethy> also sober

18:10 <sethy> been on the phone for 4 hours

18:11 <sethy> dreading the phone bill

18:13 <MTughan> Nice... My mom found a recursive ASX file!

18:14 <PovAddict> ASX are those Windows playlists?

18:14 <MTughan> Yep.

18:14 <PovAddict> playlist that plays itself?

18:14 <MTughan> It's just a text file with URLs.

18:14 <PovAddict> did WMP asplode?

18:14 <PovAddict> (last time I looked at an ASX, it was XML)

18:14 <sethy> nice, no need for yourmom jokes

18:14 <PovAddict> lol

18:14 <MTughan> Not quite... Playlist that points to an HTML file that redirects to the ASX again!

18:17 <MTughan> bbiab...

18:19 <xcamel> yo-momma jokes, anyway

18:20 <KathrynM> mornin'

18:20 <xcamel> &deepthought 174

18:20 <Romulus> xcamel: It's easy to sit and scoff at an old man's folly. But also, check out his Adam's apple!

18:22 <sethy> deepthroat?

18:22 <xcamel> listen you...

18:22 <Romulus> Dr Phil: not gonna learn it

18:22 <xcamel> this is a family channel...

18:23 <sethy> i know

18:24 <sethy> ...

18:25 <sethy> i dont see any new people about asking for help, so all is safe

18:26 * sethy expects k&b soon

18:27 <xcamel> say hi to StrawberryAngel, there sethy, I'm sure she's impressed by now...

18:28 <sethy> she's not about here now though is she.. maybe now you summoned her yea, but origionaly... no

18:28 <sethy> also hi StrawberryAngel

18:29 <xcamel> and KathrynM, who has just launched an ICBM in your general direction...

18:29 <KathrynM> I did?

18:29 <xcamel> you did..

18:29 <wdsmia> Sethy a year older... but not much wiser

18:29 <KathrynM> I haven't been paying attention

18:29 <KathrynM> OHHHH

18:29 <xcamel> good thing...

18:29 <KathrynM> Well...  Happy Birthday sethy

18:29 <KathrynM> Behave

18:29 <KathrynM> Or I might have to get maternal on you.

18:29 <KathrynM> Ask PovAddict

18:30 <KathrynM> I'm really good at that

18:30 <sethy> can'y i'm immortal

18:30 <PovAddict> ph34r her

18:30 <wdsmia> lol

18:30 <KathrynM> lol

18:30 <xcamel> or medieval even...

18:30 <sethy> lol

18:30 <sethy> everyone say lol

18:30 <PovAddict> or not

18:30 <sethy> not not?

18:30 <PovAddict> you're definitely getting older in 30 minutes... older, not more mature

18:31 <xcamel> damn -- tornadoes now breaking out

18:31 <KathrynM> well...  either graphics are really broken on the new upper_case from BOINC alpha.  Or version 6 graphics don't work with a version 5 BOINC.

18:31 <KathrynM> *Linux version...

18:31 <PovAddict> I ran upper_case a few hours ago on 5.10.40 Windows, had graphics

18:32 <KathrynM> Look up 1 line ;-)

18:32 <KathrynM> Linux

18:32 <sethy> growing up is optional, growing old is manditory

18:32 <PovAddict> from alpha

18:32 <KathrynM> what version wa supper_case?

18:32 <KathrynM> crud

18:32 <PovAddict> sethy: optional doesn't mean you should try hard not to do it...

18:32 <KathrynM> I can't type this morning

18:32 <PovAddict> supper lol

18:32 * PovAddict unsets NNW on alpha

18:32 <sethy> live while you still can?

18:33 <KathrynM> I don't have to work today.  WHy am I awake?

18:33 <sethy> jay summoned you, thats why

18:33 <PovAddict> KathrynM: you're doing better at typing than xcamel an hour ago

18:33 * PovAddict hides from xcamel

18:34 <xcamel> my fingers were having an out of body experience

18:34 <xcamel> I admit it..

18:34 <PovAddict> KathrynM: uppercase 6.07 running right now with graphics

18:34 * FreeLarry58 was wondering why i had 16 fingers and 4 thumbs here

18:34 <KathrynM> thx

18:35 <xcamel> 'lo Larry..

18:35 <FreeLarry58> lo jay and all

18:35 <KathrynM> I even did `xhost +si:localuser:boinc`

18:35 * FreeLarry58 head feels the size of the room currently

18:35 <KathrynM> Which usually works.

18:35 <PovAddict> try bruter force; there's a switch on xhost to make it accept *any* connection

18:36 <xcamel> 6.x is NRPT

18:36 <KathrynM> uh, and the only reason I know that little tidbit of information is because Eric sent it to me.

18:36 <KathrynM> So I'm not much for playing with stuff that I have absolutely no working knowledge of

18:38 <PovAddict> gmail imap is really slow

18:39 <xcamel> gmail is just plain slow

18:39 * wdsmia has a amazing color changing dog, gold to white in 10 min.

18:39 <PovAddict> lol

18:39 <PovAddict> snow?

18:39 <Romulus> Somebody said snow is fun, PovAddict

18:40 <wdsmia> lots and lots of snow

18:41 <wdsmia> &weather 50319

18:41 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 30F / -1C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 29.93in / 1013hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h ; Tonight - Snow. Areas of blowing snow. Colder. Snow may be heavy at times. Snow accumulation of 3 to 6 inches. Total snow accumulation 5 to 9 inches. Low around 20. North wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph. Chance of snow near 100 (2 more messages)

18:41 <wdsmia> &more

18:41 <Romulus> wdsmia: percent.; Wednesday - Areas of blowing snow in the morning. Cloudy with a chance of snow in the morning...then partly sunny with a slight chance of snow in the afternoon. High in the upper 20s. Temperature steady or slowly falling in the afternoon. Northwest wind 10 to 20 mph. Chance of snow 50 percent.; Wednesday Night - Partly cloudy until early morning then becoming mostly cloudy. A 20 percent (1 more message)

18:41 <wdsmia> &more

18:41 <Romulus> wdsmia: chance of snow after midnight. Low 15 to 20. West wind around 5 mph shifting to the southwest after midnight.; Winter Storm Warning for Polk County in effect until 12:00 PM CST on February 06, 2008;

18:46 <wdsmia> looks like im sending it your way Jay

18:59 <xcamel> another night where Don should be warned re: between 2:00 am and 4:00 am

18:59 <wdsmia> thats why they make weather radios

19:00 <sethy> 2

19:00 <sethy> 1

19:00 <sethy> Happy Birthamadays me :D - Still youngest!!

19:00 <sethy> gotta love /play commands

19:00 <wdsmia> Happy B-day Seth

19:00 <KathrynM> Happy Birthday sethy

19:00 <sethy> thankyou thankyou

19:01 <sethy> objective for this year shall bee....

19:01 <sethy> be more civilised

19:01 <PovAddict> happy bday!

19:01 <PovAddict> lol suuure

19:02 <KathrynM> Gah.  Anyone care to take a stab at explaining why `mail` thinks I don't exist?

19:02 <KathrynM> 550 5.1.1 <Kathryn@Galaxy.Fedora>... User unknown

19:02 <Tank_Master> cus your a fee-mail?

19:02 <KathrynM> huh?

19:04 * wdsmia slaps Tank_Master around with a large Trout

19:05 * Tank_Master slaps wdsmia around a bit with a large trout

19:06 <CoderForLife> hello #boinc residents

19:06 <KathrynM> mornin CoderForLife

19:06 <Tank_Master> Next tile all slap you around a byte!

19:06 <wdsmia> *lo Don

19:06 <Tank_Master> time*

19:06 <CoderForLife> Hello K in K

19:06 <Romulus> and power outages or system upgrades require a restart

19:06 <CoderForLife> hello Doug

19:06 <CoderForLife> hello Tank_Master

19:06 * KathrynM goes to dig through Google. bbiab

19:06 <Tank_Master> hi CFL

19:07 <Tank_Master> dont get lost, k

19:07 <CoderForLife> You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all Google.

19:08 <KathrynM> heh.  I'm in a twisty maze of never ending passages when trying to learn a new Linux-y thing

19:08 <KathrynM> OK.  I'm really going now.

19:08 <CoderForLife> but I do date myself with that reference

19:11 <wdsmia> looks like some weather headed your way CoderForLife

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19:11 <Tank_Master> crap

19:11 <Tank_Master> Z's here

19:11 <Tank_Master> ;)

19:11 <CoderForLife> yup - looking into it now - thx wdsmia

19:12 <zombie67> ack!  you saw?

19:12 <CoderForLife> I'm home a bit late from w@#%

19:13 <CoderForLife> I'm sponsoring some training for 20 of our folks on problem solving and decision making techniques

19:14 <CoderForLife> the class ended at 5, and I have some folks wanting to talk after class, then I talked with the instructor after everyone else left

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19:16 <KathrynM> I give up.

19:16 <KathrynM> 4 terminal windows open at once.  I should be shot.

19:16 <zombie67> sup?

19:16 <KathrynM> trying to get local mail to work.

19:17 <zombie67> ah

19:17 <KathrynM> all I wanted to do was forward message from cron to root to my own account.

19:17 <KathrynM> apparently I don't exist as a user

19:17 <zombie67> snort!

19:17 <KathrynM> I can send mail but not receive it

19:17 * CoderForLife looks at long range radar, and gasps

19:18 <Tank_Master> sun?

19:19 <CoderForLife> brighter than the sun

19:19 <wdsmia> should be fun about 2am

19:19 <CoderForLife> dang

19:20 <CoderForLife> tracking both sides of the Mississippi

19:20 <xcamel> it's an ugly mess

19:20 <CoderForLife> that's fer sure

19:21 * CoderForLife readies his deflector dish

19:21 <KathrynM> PovAddict,

19:21 <KathrynM> gah

19:21 <wdsmia> deflect it east  please

19:21 <KathrynM> PovAddict, can you upload to boinc alpha?

19:21 <PovAddict> no

19:21 <CoderForLife> this lights flickered while we were at the dinner table

19:21 <PovAddict> seems on a backoff of an hour

19:22 <KathrynM> ok.  so it's not just me

19:22 <CoderForLife> this=the

19:22 <zombie67> what's going on at boinc alpha?

19:22 <KathrynM> server status is all green...  so I was wondering if it was me

19:22 <KathrynM> new linux version of upper case

19:22 <KathrynM> one that actually runs :-)

19:22 <CoderForLife> it's all about you KathrynM

19:22 <KathrynM> CoderForLife, I know :-)  Isn't it always

19:22 <wdsmia> lol

19:23 <CoderForLife> doubtless

19:24 <CoderForLife> there's too many tornado warnings out there

19:24 <KathrynM> stay safe

19:24 * KathrynM wonders if the new rosetta mini app has a working progress bar or if the linux version is borked

19:24 <CoderForLife> will endeavor to do so - I have no wish to wind up somewhere over the rainbow

19:25 * KathrynM sings "Somewhere over the rainbow..."

19:25 <KathrynM> We did the Wizard of Oz as a play when I was in the second grade.

19:25 <KathrynM> I was Miss Gulch and part of the tornado.

19:25 <wdsmia> Antie M, hate you Hate Kansas, took the Dog signed Dorthy

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19:34 <CoderForLife> heading for the couch

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19:35 <Tank_Master> BOINC 5.10.40 now out for win

19:35 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: you're a few hours late with those news FYI

19:35 <Tank_Master> and your point?

19:35 <PovAddict> also

19:35 <PovAddict>

19:35 <Romulus> Title: Changeset 14681 - BOINC - Trac (at

19:36 <Tank_Master>

19:36 <Romulus> <> (at

19:36 <MTughan> Hmm... PovAddict: When I have multiple selections in the Task list, what should Show Graphics do? Be disabled?

19:36 <PovAddict> I think so...

19:36 <Tank_Master> or pop up 50 million windows

19:36 <MTughan> lol

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19:37 <PovAddict> I emailed DA reminding him of the pending tickets on Trac that have patches on them

19:37 <Tank_Master> hehe

19:37 <PovAddict> now I checked the Trac RSS and had like 12 new items

19:37 <PovAddict> guess he got it

19:38 <PovAddict> KathrynM: upload still not going

19:38 <PovAddict> anyway, yeah... applying a patch is much easier than fixing a reported problem himself

19:38 <PovAddict> and if people contribute patches and *get ignored*, that's not very motivating to contribute again...

19:40 <Tank_Master> is there a changelog for the 6.x clients?

19:40 <xcamel> &rss boinc 1

19:40 <Romulus> xcamel: BOINC news Jan 31, 2008 <>

19:41 <xcamel> nothing new there..

19:42 <PovAddict>

19:42 <Romulus> Title: QDB: Quote #115765 (at

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19:50 <MTughan> PovAddict: How do I tell the running task(s)?

19:50 <MTughan> active_task is true if the task has run before.

19:50 <PovAddict> have you prepared the appropriate sacrifices?

19:50 <MTughan> Uh oh...

19:51 <MTughan> active_task_state?

19:51 <PovAddict> active tasks with active_task_state = 1 are running

19:51 <MTughan> It's only 0 and 1/

19:51 <PovAddict> as that's what I use for my forum sig

19:51 <PovAddict> if(isset($r['active_task']) && $r['active_task']['active_task_state'] == 1)

19:51 <MTughan> ?*

19:52 <PovAddict> no there's 0-9 active tasks

19:52 <PovAddict>

19:52 <MTughan> ...

19:52 <Romulus> <> (at

19:52 <PovAddict> err active task states*

19:52 <MTughan> Suspend is like a normal suspend from the control?

19:53 <MTughan> PROCESS_SUSPEND here.

19:53 <PovAddict> probably

19:53 <PovAddict> there's a separate suspended_by_gui flag IIRC

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19:53 <MTughan> There is.


19:53 <MTughan> And project_suspended_by_gui.

19:53 <PovAddict> it's the kind of thing CFL would call "code" instead of "Code"

19:54 <MTughan> lol

19:54 <CoderOnTheCouch> lol

19:54 <zombie67> bbl

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19:55 * CoderOnTheCouch watches election results

19:55 <MTughan> PovAddict: PROCESS_EXITED is a normal exit, and PROCESS_WAS_SIGNALED, PROCESS_EXIT_UNKNOWN, and PROCESS_ABORTED are all "bad" exits?

19:56 <PovAddict> uh, I think so

19:56 <PovAddict> make it print a message to stderr or a log if you find any of those, so you can then compare against official manager display

19:56 <MTughan> I think I'm only concerned with running and suspended myself anyway.

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19:59 <KathrynM_> yes!  my friends just rescheduled our lunch for Saturday.  Meaning I can put off cleaning for a few days :-)

19:59 <Tank_Master> lol

20:01 <CoderOnTheCouch> SIGHUP, SIGQUIT

20:02 <CoderOnTheCouch> SIGPANIC

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20:03 <Tank_Master> GFL is one shift guy!

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20:03 <Tank_Master> CFL*

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20:04 <CoderOnTheCouch> shift?

20:04 <KathrynM> PovAddict, try uploading to boinc alpha now

20:04 <PovAddict> uploading

20:04 <PovAddict> slowly

20:04 <xcamel> primaries? that's a SIGF*KUP

20:05 <KathrynM> wellllllllllll

20:05 <KathrynM> at least they uploaded

20:05 <CoderOnTheCouch> =)

20:05 <KathrynM> got invalid signature errors

20:05 <PovAddict> the "slow" part is to blame on my end

20:05 <CoderOnTheCouch> SIGHUCKUP

20:05 <xcamel> that too..

20:05 <PovAddict> and they didn't finish uploading, so I dunno if they will work

20:08 <KathrynM> hmmm...  I lied.  Graphics do work.

20:08 * KathrynM shrugs

20:10 <MTughan> PovAddict: Any idea what string I should use for a task if it's complete? "Ready to Report" doesn't sound quite right... Maybe "Task Completed"?

20:10 <MTughan> Actually, anyone can answer this.

20:13 <wdsmia> give then somthing to talk about... like kernel dump :-)

20:14 <Tank_Master> return_results_immediately ?

20:14 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: no

20:17 <wdsmia> ready to send?

20:17 <MTughan> Well, I'll do "Task Completed" for now. Can always be changed.

20:17 <MTughan> That sounds like "Ready to Report".

20:18 <wdsmia> or return

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20:18 * CoderOnTheCouch was once voted as "Most Likely To Subscribe To 'The Dump of the Month' Magazine", where the centerfold is green-bar output of a mainframe core dump to debug

20:19 <PovAddict> o_O

20:19 <wdsmia> been there seen it

20:22 <Tank_Master> lol

20:23 <xcamel> glad as hell you filled in the rest of that...

20:24 <xcamel> I thought it was a sanitation workers monthly...

20:24 <CoderOnTheCouch> ha - I didn't think of it that way

20:24 <Tank_Master> lol

20:24 <wdsmia> rofl

20:25 <xcamel> lovely landfill centerfolds...

20:25 <CoderOnTheCouch> nah, toilet paper

20:25 <xcamel> Miss Compost 2007

20:26 <CoderOnTheCouch> yet another different "dump"

20:26 * KathrynM thinks it's days like this that might just drive me back to Windows

20:26 <KathrynM> And if not back to Windows, then at least back to bed.

20:26 <xcamel> I was trying to keep with the 'family friendly" theme

20:26 <PovAddict> heh

20:27 <PovAddict> reminds me of that kid in Magic Schoolbus series...

20:27 <CoderOnTheCouch> keep us on the straight and narrow, xcamel

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20:29 <wdsmia> Hmm politely correct xcamel?

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20:33 * KathrynM goes back to playing PopIt. Apparently I'm a figament of my own imagination.

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20:44 <MTughan> PovAddict: active_task_state doesn't tell me if it was suspended or not.

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20:45 <MTughan> Thanks...

20:52 * CoderOnTheCouch begins to fade out

20:52 <CoderOnTheCouch> already dozed off twice

20:52 <PovAddic1> <-

20:52 <CoderOnTheCouch> I guess I'll get some shut eye before the early AM fireworks

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20:53 <MTughan> PovAddict: active_task_state doesn't tell me if it was suspended or not.

20:53 <CoderOnTheCouch> cya

20:53 <MTughan> What I had to use: [self setSuspended:(task->current_cpu_time != 0 && ![self managerSuspended] && ![self projectSuspended] && ![self running])];

20:53 <PovAddict> eek

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20:54 <MTughan> So if CPU time is not 0 (not started or completed), not suspended by the user, project's not suspended, and it's not running.

20:54 <PovAddict> if it has never started, it won't have an active state at all

20:55 <MTughan> current_cpu_time will be undefined or 0.

20:55 <MTughan> Oh, this is to tell if the task has been suspended after it's run for a bit.

20:55 <PovAddict> is it to show on the columns?

20:55 <MTughan> Yeah.

20:56 <PovAddict> for the suspend toggle button, you should use only suspended_via_gui

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20:56 <MTughan> That's PROJECT.

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20:56 <MTughan> Oh nvm...

20:56 <PovAddict> you can suspend tasks too...

20:56 <MTughan> I have that already.

20:56 <MTughan> This is if the core client suspends a task.

20:57 <PovAddict>

20:57 <Romulus> <> (at

20:58 <PovAddict> that seems to be everything you need to know

20:58 <MTughan> Ah, I see...

20:58 <PovAddict> the _("stuff") function calls are for translation

20:58 <MTughan> Okay.

20:58 <MTughan> I have NSLocalizedString(<string>, nil) to get a localized string.

21:00 <PovAddict> note the strBuffer = vs +=

21:00 <MTughan> No, I see what I'm looking for...

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21:28 <efc> &weather yakutsk

21:28 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: -31°F / -35°C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h | Updated: 11:00 AM YAKT; Overcast. High:-9 F. / -23 C.; Overcast. Low:-18 F. / -28 C.; Overcast. High:-9 F. / -23 C.; Chance of Snow. Low:-11 F. / -24 C.; Chance of Snow. High:-4 F. / -20 C.; Overcast. Low:-16 F. / -27 C.;

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22:01 <MTughan> PovAddict: Is it all right if I detach and reattach to IMPFarm to test how detaching from projects works?

22:01 <PovAddict> well sure...

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22:14 <PovAddict> MTughan: could you search for CLOCKS_PER_SEC on your system headers? probably time.h

22:15 <MTughan> Huh... I don't have a time.h in /usr/lib.

22:15 <PovAddict> /usr/include

22:15 <MTughan> Yeah, just found that with a search...

22:15 * MTughan smacks himself

22:16 <MTughan> time.h:#define CLOCKS_PER_SEC  1000000/* [XSI] */

22:16 <MTughan> time.h:#define CLOCKS_PER_SEC  (__DARWIN_CLK_TCK)

22:16 <PovAddict> note that was what caused the super-slow progressbar when you tested my screensaver

22:16 <PovAddict> clock() / CLOCKS_PER_SEC is supposed to get me something with seconds as unit

22:17 <MTughan> The diff between them is the first is controlled by #if __DARWIN_UNIX03

22:17 <PovAddict> I'm trying to find something *else*

22:17 <Romulus> Heh, not that much...

22:17 <PovAddict> I can't use time(); 1 second resolution is not enough

22:17 <MTughan> Apparently __DARWIN_CLK_TCK is 100.

22:17 <wdsmia> #Boinc > /dev/null

22:19 <PovAddict> clock() has 1ms resolution on my machine, and 1/1000000 or 1/__DARWIN_CLK_TCK seconds on yours, but it doesn't work for you...

22:20 <MTughan> I don't think it's using __DARWIN_CLK_TCK actually.

22:20 <PovAddict> whatever it's using, it's inconsistent with what clock() really does

22:20 <MTughan> DARWIN_UNIX03 I think stands for a version of Darwin where they changed the clocks.

22:25 <PovAddict> maybe I could use gettimeofday but I'm not sure about its portability

22:26 <Soul_keeper> yeah not too portable

22:26 <PovAddict> I have it on MinGW

22:26 <Soul_keeper> i use it in my project because it's only intended for linux

22:27 <PovAddict> BOINC seems to use GetSystemTimeAsFileTime on Windows and gettimeofday on everything else

22:27 <Soul_keeper> i forgot what project, but there was a nice one i found on google once, where it would determine the os and use the appropriate time function for the application

22:27 <PovAddict> #ifdef _WIN32...

22:28 <Soul_keeper> there are atleast 3 main options if you want complete compatibility accross platforms

22:28 <PovAddict> time() is portable, but I need more than 1s resolution

22:28 <Soul_keeper> what about dtime() ?

22:29 <PovAddict> doesn't exist

22:29 <PovAddict> nor I can find it on google

22:32 <Soul_keeper> dunno i'd have to look around can't recall

22:32 <PovAddict> BOINC defines it, as a wrapper for GetSystemTimeAsFileTime and gettimeofday

22:41 <Soul_keeper> i think i see what i was trying to use for windows machines before ...

22:42 <Soul_keeper> ddtime()  with  GetTickCount()

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22:42 <PovAddict> I searched for ddtime

22:43 <PovAddict> on google

22:43 <PovAddict> lsbench was on the first page

22:43 <MTughan> Wow... For all the detaches and reattaches I did, IMPFarm still only shows one machine.

22:43 <Soul_keeper> lol

22:44 <PovAddict> where does ddtime come from?

22:44 <MTughan> And removing projects and tasks as they're detached/reported works now. Although adding them doesn't seem to...

22:44 <PovAddict> ah found it - simple GetTickCount wrapper

22:45 <Soul_keeper> i doubt mine works tho

22:45 <Soul_keeper> i gave up on the windows support a good while back

22:45 <Soul_keeper> as i don't have windows to test it on

22:56 <PovAddict> &google calc 2^64 milliseconds to years

22:56 <Romulus> PovAddict: (2^64) milliseconds = 584,554,531 years

22:57 <MTughan> Can anyone download SETI WUs?

22:57 <MTughan> Mine are barely downloading.

23:00 <PovAddict> I dont run seti

23:02 <Tank_Master> whats seti?

23:02 <Romulus> try bruter force; there's a weather station on Inaccessible

23:10 <zombie67> the forerunner of today's sofa, a long seat with side arms and back, sometimes upholstered

23:10 <zombie67> but it's spelled Setee

23:10 <zombie67> Settee

23:11 <Tank_Master> :)

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