00:10 <MTughan> &xkcd
00:10 <MTughan> &cad
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00:22 <PovAddict> &factoids change macintosh 1 s/39/40/
00:22 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.
00:22 <PovAddict> &factoids change OSX 1 s/39/40/
00:22 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.
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01:21 <MTughan> Off to bed...
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01:45 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140
01:46 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 62.2°F / 16.8°C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 29.55in / 1000.6hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Heavy Rain | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 1.5mph / 2.4km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Widespread showers and scattered thunderstorms. Some thunderstorms may be severe with damaging winds. Lows in the mid 50s. Southwest winds around 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; (3 more messages)
01:48 <CoderForLife> &more
01:48 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Wednesday - Mostly cloudy. Widespread showers and thunderstorms in the morning...then a chance of showers in the afternoon. Some thunderstorms may be severe. Locally heavy rainfall possible in the morning. Breezy with highs in the upper 50s. Temperatures falling into the mid 40s in the afternoon. Southwest winds 15 to 25 mph with gusts up to 40 mph. Chance of rain 80 percent.; Wednesday Night - (2 more messages)
01:48 <CoderForLife> &more
01:48 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Mostly cloudy. A chance of rain and snow showers in the evening. Breezy and much colder with lows in the upper 20s. West winds 20 to 25 mph...decreasing to 10 to 20 mph after midnight. Gusts up to 40 mph in the evening. Chance of precipitation 30 percent.; Tornado Watch for Hamilton County in effect until 2:00 AM EST on February 06, 2008; Severe Thunderstorm Warning for Hamilton County in effect (1 more message)
01:48 <CoderForLife> &more
01:48 <Romulus> CoderForLife: until 1:45 AM EST on February 06, 2008; Flood Warning for Hamilton County in effect until 7:00 AM EST on February 09, 2008; Areal Flood Advisory, Areal Flood Watch for Hamilton County in effect until 9:00 AM EST on February 06, 2008;
01:49 <zombie67> "Isn't it interesting that the same people who laugh at science fiction listen to weather forecasts and economists?" -- Kelvin Throop, III
01:49 * CoderForLife peeks out from under his desk
01:50 <CoderForLife> you mean they're wrong about this thunderstorm?
01:50 <zombie67> heh
01:50 <zombie67> no clue
01:58 * CoderForLife goes to inspect the house
02:03 <efc> Zzzz
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02:03 <zombie67> Ah, this is obviously some strange usage of the word 'safe' that I wasn't previously aware of. -- Douglas Adams
02:03 <Malygris> Hello.
02:03 <Tank_Master> hi
02:03 <zombie67> yo
02:03 <Malygris> Is this the place for a little bit of Seti/Boinc help?
02:03 <Wabbit98> might be
02:04 <Malygris> I just installed the latest version, after having screwed up my previous install, but it's not downloading the Seti components properly.
02:04 <Tank_Master> SETI isnt working atm
02:05 <Malygris> Basically, it begins to download the necessary files, but it actually waits about five minutes before the transfer begins.
02:05 <zombie67> says one man
02:05 <Tank_Master> othes cant download work either
02:05 <zombie67> I download work just fine
02:05 <Tank_Master> well arent you special
02:05 <Wabbit98> hehehe
02:05 <Malygris> Okay, I checked the Seti site and it seemed to indicate everything was fine. And I can download the work files and such, I just have to wait about five minutes for each individual transfer to start moving.
02:05 <Romulus> yeah that would be 'winduhs'
02:06 <zombie67> how OLD is that?!
02:07 <efc> A year or two
02:07 <zombie67> no way
02:07 <Malygris> So this is a problem at their end, not mine? I just upgraded from dialup and I thought that might have an effect.
02:07 <zombie67> look at the memory sticks
02:07 <zombie67> chips on only one side?
02:07 <efc> Those are FPGAs, each with 4 banks of DDR2-400
02:08 <Tank_Master> they still make single sided ram
02:08 <efc> thats a 22 Layer PCB, about $5000 for the board alone
02:08 <zombie67> Malygris: not likely your issue
02:08 <efc> $1k each for the FPGA.. Virtex-2 Pros
02:09 <zombie67> 22 layers are ~$200
02:09 <Malygris> Okay. I guess I'll keep an eye on it over the next few days and see what happens/.
02:09 <efc> Thats just what they said... 12x22", 22 layer, not your garden variety PCB
02:09 <zombie67> neither is ATCA
02:09 <efc> sorry, 14x17"
02:10 <zombie67> Malygris: yeah, wait another 12 hours or so. and watch the boards.
02:10 <zombie67> either it gets fixed, or people start complaining.
02:10 <zombie67> what are the procs on that board?
02:10 <Tank_Master> or try a real project
02:11 <efc> Virtex-2 Pro FPGAs
02:11 <efc> several hundred multipliers on them, and I forget how many gates, 1mil+ probably
02:11 <Malygris> Thanks. I'll stick with this project and keep an eye on the forums.
02:12 <zombie67> "Finally, the FPGAs on the BEE2 are highly connected with both high-speed, serial and parallel links."
02:12 <zombie67> SNORT
02:12 <zombie67> High speed SERIAL?
02:12 <efc> 40 gbit/sec they say somewhere
02:13 <efc> its a research project, but I like their way of thinking
02:13 <Tank_Master> ahh, yeah
02:13 <zombie67> something is not adding up
02:13 <Tank_Master> network connections
02:13 <Tank_Master> they still call them serial
02:13 <Tank_Master> its no the serial your used to back in the 486 days
02:13 <efc> Also, the FPGA sees communication as serial on each pin
02:14 <efc> 72 of them put together -> a DDR interface
02:14 <Romulus> Title: Supermicro, Inc. - Products | SuperBlade (at www.supermicro.com)
02:15 <efc> The idea is you have hundreds of those boards working together
02:15 <efc> and that you give Xilinx extremely large amounts of money
02:17 <efc> ok, here's some more on the FPGA they use.. 70k "cells" (I don't know exactly what that means), 326 multipliers, 2 powerPC cores, 5.8 mbit onboard SRAM
02:17 <Romulus> just poked 2 logs
02:17 <zombie67> or this: http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon7000/7300/X7QCE.cfm
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02:20 <efc> I'll take those two if I pass them on the curb :)
02:20 <efc> oh, the board is somewhat older, 2004 maybe
02:21 <efc> I want to build something like that, but somewhat simpler and a whole lot cheaper
02:25 <zombie67> fit the bill?
02:26 <efc> They're nice, but the FPGAs would flow them out of the water if configured and programmed properly
02:26 <efc> err blow
02:26 <zombie67> for what purpose?
02:26 <zombie67> boinc?
02:26 <Romulus> Somebody said boinc is all perfect and stuff, zombie67
02:27 <efc> something highly parallel, like S@H (probably for most boinc stuff but thats hard to say without looking at the projects in detail)
02:27 <zombie67> er, boinc doesn't do parallel.
02:28 <efc> BOINC is parallel, thats the whole point
02:28 <CoderForLife> fireworks over - back to bed
02:28 <Romulus> remember Dogbytes in your LIB path.
02:28 <zombie67> no, it's a bunch of single thread apps running
02:28 <CoderForLife> nice thought, ROmmie
02:29 <Tank_Master> gn GFL
02:29 <Tank_Master> I 2 am off to bed
02:29 <CoderForLife> thx
02:29 <zombie67> gn tm and cfl
02:29 <Tank_Master> and just a note - the BOINC dev people are working on ways to allowing one WU to use more than one thread...
02:30 <efc> the real strength is parallelism inside the WU. For example, an FFT can benefit greatly from it.
02:30 <zombie67> one project is already doing that by accident
02:32 <zombie67> the only project(s) I see doing something like that is with the PS3
02:33 <zombie67> the Cell is very impressive
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04:42 <efc> &weather 31088
04:42 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 64°F / 18°C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h ; Today - Showers and thunderstorms likely in the morning...then occasional showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Windy. Highs in the lower 70s. Southwest winds 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain near 100 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy with a 20 (1 more message)
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04:55 <CoderForLife> plink 210-173-249-105.netsolutions.co.jp
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05:58 <deprecated> &weather 12158
05:58 <Romulus> deprecated: Temperature: 37.6°F / 3.1°C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 29.49in / 998.5hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Rain | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Rain this morning...then rain and freezing rain or sleet this afternoon. Ice accumulation of up to one tenth of an inch. Highs in the lower 40s. Temperature falling into the lower 30s this afternoon. North winds around 5 mph. Chance (2 more messages)
05:59 <deprecated> more
05:59 <deprecated> &more
05:59 <Romulus> deprecated: of precipitation near 100 percent.; Tonight - Freezing rain or sleet or snow in the evening...then snow after midnight. Snow and sleet accumulation of 2 to 4 inches. Ice accumulation of up to one tenth of an inch. Lows in the upper 20s. North winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation 90 percent.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy. Snow showers likely in the morning. Total snow accumulation of 3 to 6 inches (1 more message)
05:59 <deprecated> &more
05:59 <Romulus> deprecated: possible. Highs in the mid 30s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 60 percent.; Winter Weather Advisory for Albany County in effect until 10:00 AM EST on February 07, 2008; Areal Flood Watch for Albany County in effect until 5:00 AM EST on February 07, 2008;
06:00 <deprecated> &weather 98038
06:00 <Romulus> deprecated: Temperature: 36.7°F / 2.6°C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 30.13in / 1020.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Showers and breezy. Lows in the mid 30s. Southwest wind 15 to 25 mph.; Wednesday - Showers in the morning...then rain likely in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 40s. Southwest wind 10 to 15 mph.; Wednesday Night - Rain (1 more message)
06:00 <deprecated> &more
06:00 <Romulus> deprecated: and windy. Lows in the mid 30s. Southwest wind 20 to 30 mph. Wind gusts up to 50 mph late.;
06:00 <Romulus> amd back to w@#%ing for the buck
06:04 <wdsmia> &weather 50319
06:04 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 22°F / -6°C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 29.78in / 1008hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 16mph / 26km/h ; Today - Blowing snow in the morning. Snow in the morning...then a slight chance of snow in the afternoon. Snow may be heavy at times in the morning. New snow accumulation up to 1 inch. Total snow accumulation 6 to 10 inches. High in the upper (1 more message)
06:04 <wdsmia> &more
06:04 <Romulus> wdsmia: 20s. North wind 15 to 20 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy until early morning then becoming mostly cloudy. Colder. Low 10 to 15. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of snow. High in the mid 20s. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Winter Storm Warning for Polk County in effect until 12:00 PM CST on February 06, 2008;
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06:16 <CoderForLife> away-hey with me to w@#%
06:17 <CoderForLife> much laterz
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06:28 <hawmps> 'lo
06:38 <KathrynM> evenin' all
06:38 <KathrynM> any mac-heads here?
06:47 <hawmps> a little bit..
06:48 <KathrynM> Got a help desk email. I've got no clue. Last time I used a mac was like OS 8 (and hated 'em too)
06:48 <KathrynM> I am using MAC and upgraded to 10.5 and lost my BOINC settings.
06:48 <Romulus> yes, they are govong be stupid network setup problems
06:48 <KathrynM> that's the whole thing
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08:16 <hawmps> hmmmm...
08:16 <hawmps> it should reload when you re-attach to your favorite projects
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08:50 <wdsmia_w> what a mess out there
08:51 <wdsmia_w> 10 inches on the ground and still snowing
08:53 <hawmps> flooding around here - sever icing to the north
08:58 <wdsmia_w> &weather 50319
08:58 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 22°F / -6°C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 29.80in / 1009hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Snow | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h ; Today - Blowing snow in the morning. Snow in the morning...then a slight chance of snow in the afternoon. Snow may be heavy at times in the morning. New snow accumulation up to 1 inch. Total snow accumulation 6 to 10 inches. High in the upper 20s. (1 more message)
08:58 <wdsmia_w> &more
08:58 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: North wind 15 to 20 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy until early morning then becoming mostly cloudy. Colder. Low 10 to 15. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of snow. High in the mid 20s. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Winter Storm Warning for Polk County in effect until 12:00 PM CST on February 06, 2008;
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09:24 <hawmps> temps are really dropping now...
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09:27 <BadBarbarian> Mornin
09:28 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86023
09:28 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: -6°F / -21.1°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: in / hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 2mph / 3.2km/h ; Today - Partly cloudy. Highs around 35 on the North Rim to around 50 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows around 11 on the North Rim to around 14 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Thursday - Partly cloudy. Highs (1 more message)
09:28 <BadBarbarian> &more
09:28 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: around 45 on the North Rim to around 48 along the Colorado River. Light winds.;
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09:56 <hawmps> &OSX
09:56 <Romulus> hawmps: "OSX" could be http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_5.10.40_macOSX_universal.zip
09:56 <hawmps> must be he changed that one too..
09:57 <hawmps> busy little beaver..
09:57 <Romulus> hawmps: The operation succeeded.
09:58 <hawmps> &whatis boinc_dl
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11:02 <wdsmia_w> &eightball will it ever stop snowing?
11:02 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!
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12:21 <MTughan> Yeah, Pov updated the OSX and Mac factoids yesterday.
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13:24 <Romulus> Title: User Friendly the Comic Strip - The Daily Static (at www.userfriendly.org)
13:32 <FreeLarry58> so - how to use PieSpyRom?
13:33 <PovAddic1> &whatis piespy
13:33 <Romulus> PovAddic1: "piespy" could be http://lledgerock.com/boinc_logs/boinc-current.png
13:33 <PovAddic1> you just watch that image
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13:34 <FreeLarry58> thanks PovAddic1
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13:54 <BadBarbarian> &eightball will it ever warm up here
13:54 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: The answer is a resounding no.
13:54 <BadBarbarian> that sucks
13:55 <wdsmia_w> lol
13:57 <hawmps> we're kind of in the middle at the moment..
14:00 <hawmps> winter storm warnings for later..
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14:15 <PovAddic1> my computer just suddenly and quietly reset itself
14:16 <Soul_keeper> fun stuff
14:16 <Soul_keeper> you should punish it !
14:16 <PovAddic1> I was reading a website and the screen went black
14:16 <PovAddic1> then I saw the POST
14:17 <Soul_keeper> could be a number of things
14:17 <PovAddic1> overheating?
14:19 <Soul_keeper> possible
14:19 <Soul_keeper> could be an undervolted cpu, underpowered psu, faulty components, etc.
14:20 <PovAddic1> first time this ever happens really...
14:20 <Soul_keeper> if you cpu temp isn't already too high, try bumping you cpu/mem voltage by the smallest increment
14:20 <Soul_keeper> see if that stabilizes it
14:20 <PovAddic1> I don't see it "unstable"... it just reset itself for the first time since I got the computer
14:20 <Soul_keeper> could have even been a fluctuation on the wall's power line
14:21 <PovAddic1> yeah
14:21 <PovAddic1> I need an UPS
14:21 <Soul_keeper> brownout or whatever they are where they dip
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14:21 <Soul_keeper> almost all psu's undervolt the rails btw
14:21 <Soul_keeper> so it really don't take much to cause instability
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14:29 <Soul_keeper> i've lost my sanity
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14:34 <MTughan> lol, SK's gone insane.
14:35 <Saenger> what's lost anyway? "lost" means there has been something before ;)
14:36 <Soul_keeper> let's just put it this way ... the condition continues to worsen :)
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14:44 <PovAddict> KathrynM: ping
14:45 <PovAddict> well anyway
14:45 <PovAddict> DA just fixed a bug on file upload handler, maybe that's what was breaking uploads on boinc alpha
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15:15 <hawmps> that's a good thing..
15:15 <Romulus> Title: Comics - Explosm.net (at www.explosm.net)
15:16 <PovAddict> heh who knows...
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15:16 <PovAddict> sethy: >poke<
15:16 <PovAddict> MTughan: are you reading them all??
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15:17 <MTughan> Sadly, yes.
15:17 <PovAddict> lol
15:17 <MTughan> And growl seems slow....
15:17 <MTughan> Because it's not running... >_>
15:17 <MTughan> There.
15:18 <sethy> PovAddict: >poke<
15:19 <sethy> Yes?
15:20 <Romulus> Title: Comics - Explosm.net (at www.explosm.net)
15:20 <PovAddict> shush bot
15:20 <Romulus> For the end of the time is up ...
15:20 <Romulus> Title: Comics - Explosm.net (at www.explosm.net)
15:20 <sethy> Oh, i was making the good olde ROT13 style keyboard and i forgot to save :(
15:20 <sethy> !explosm
15:20 <MTughan> &explosm
15:21 <sethy> was not after that but sure
15:24 <wdsmia_w> &yawn
15:24 <Romulus> I don't know, wdsmia_w.
15:25 <sethy> i have this bottle of cider infront of me, i sooo want to open it but i want to save it for later when i call hannah
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15:27 <sethy> the wierd thing is, she thinks its cute when i'm drunk...
15:27 <sethy> to say the family goes violent when drinking cider
15:28 <sethy> its a gene passed down in the generations
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15:32 <sethy> wb PovAddic1
15:32 <Soul_keeper> lol yeah, i think all my unemployed jail-bird uncles got that gene ...
15:34 <sethy> its somewhat cool, if i dont overdrink on it, say like 1 bottle, i am all strongly emotional
15:34 <sethy> its liek a 'hidden' me
15:35 <Soul_keeper> strongly emotional == girly man ?
15:35 <sethy> something like that
15:35 <Soul_keeper> lol
15:35 <sethy> i tend to explain my feelings more
15:35 <sethy> and with more affection
15:35 <Soul_keeper> that's scary stuff
15:35 <sethy> it is
15:35 <sethy> its why i rarely drink so people dont find me
15:37 <sethy> hmm, wierd
15:38 <sethy> php doesnt want to work when i go to 127.0.0.1/Images/
15:38 <sethy> only folder with php anyway
15:38 <sethy> but if i click on index.php it works
15:38 <sethy> basicly its not doing the index==home
15:38 <MTughan> Check Apache's config for default documents then.
15:39 <PovAddic1> add index.php to DirectoryIndex
15:39 <PovAddic1> by default it has .html and .htm only
15:39 <PovAddic1> damnit
15:39 <MTughan> That's it...
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15:40 <sethy> just add another line that read DirectoryIndex index.php
15:41 <sethy> below the one that says html
15:41 <PovAddict> no
15:41 <MTughan> No, add it after/before where it says "index.html".
15:41 <PovAddict> if it says:
15:41 <PovAddict> DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm
15:41 <PovAddict> make it
15:41 <PovAddict> DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.php
15:41 <PovAddict> or something
15:41 <sethy> still in the <ifmodule>
15:41 <MTughan> It'll serve them in left to right order depending on what Apache finds in the dir.
15:41 <PovAddict> wow lag
15:41 <sethy> only got html on here
15:41 <sethy> i'll add htm
15:42 <MTughan> PovAddict: That's if you want index.html before index.php if both are present.
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15:43 <sethy> in priority order basicly
15:43 <MTughan> Yep.
15:43 <sethy> Awesoem
15:43 <sethy> See i can be a reasonable good boy :)
15:43 <MTughan> Oh, you'll have to restart Apache for the change to take effect too.
15:44 <sethy> yea i know some concepts on apache
15:44 <sethy> i'm thinking of doing php appart from i have no motive at all
15:45 <sethy> and i just threw a bottle-opener/cork screw combined in the air and almost amputated my thumb
15:45 <MTughan> Smart...
15:45 <sethy> yea
15:46 <sethy> so not me
15:47 <sethy> only got 3 birthday cards :(
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15:51 <sethy> i've lost cuteftp
15:51 <xcamel> happy birthday..
15:51 <sethy> thank you :)
15:54 <sethy> uh oh, i think i got the ISP Problem again
15:54 <sethy> its not loading microsoft again
15:55 <PovAddict> good
15:55 <sethy> or PovAddict's server
15:55 <MTughan> I can't connect to websites, but IRC's up...
15:55 <sethy> i can get to some sites
15:55 <sethy> like gewgle.com
15:56 <MTughan> I can't get to Google or Explosm.
15:56 <MTughan> Or lledgerock.com.
15:56 <sethy> it just says 'Waiting for www.microsoft.com...' the loading bar half way and not doing anything
15:56 <sethy> it doesnt even time out
15:56 <xcamel> there is allot wrong with the net today
15:57 <sethy> only on pov's server it times out for some bizare reason
15:57 <Romulus> Title: Network Overview /// Internet Traffic Report (at www.internettrafficreport.com)
15:57 <sethy> IPV4 < IPV6
15:58 <PovAddict> eek that's a lot of packet loss
15:58 <sethy> index is?
15:58 <MTughan> I can't connect to the site...
15:58 <sethy> i can
15:58 <sethy> PovAddict: can you try see if my vnc works, use the dns name please
15:59 <sethy> gotdns
15:59 <PovAddict> no
15:59 <sethy> no as, no you not testing or no as it doesnt work
16:00 <Romulus> I'm off into space, really)
16:00 <PovAddict> cba test
16:00 <PovAddict> and it's surely not working anyway
16:00 <sethy> europe just went up to 70
16:02 <xcamel> been getting a bunch of '502 upstream proxy errors'
16:03 <sethy> ooo cuteftp finaly loaded
16:08 <MTughan> Gah, WTF is up with the Internet today?
16:08 <Soul_keeper> 5th internet cable cut in the mideast
16:09 <PovAddict> I heard two cables cut over there
16:09 <sethy> i had this problem before that happened also
16:09 <Soul_keeper> yeah a new one has been getting cut each day or so since
16:09 <PovAddict> WTF
16:09 <Soul_keeper> the conspiracy theorists are coming out of the woodworks, and are probably right ...
16:10 <PovAddict> we're in deep sh1t
16:10 <MTughan> WTF, it's suddenly up...
16:10 <xcamel> One undersea cable to India died about a week ago..
16:10 <xcamel> but I thought they fixed it.
16:11 <Soul_keeper> 100's of millions of users affected
16:11 <Soul_keeper> just like how the islams attacked the ancient indians because they had kamasutra and naked people on their temples ...
16:12 <Soul_keeper> maybe they want to stop the porn
16:12 <MTughan> Parents... Kicking me of... F***ers...
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16:17 * Soul_keeper drules on himself
16:25 <xcamel> [LHC news] >> Time Travellers From The Future 'Could Be here In Weeks'
16:26 <PovAddict> wtf
16:26 <xcamel> now that one is downright funny
16:28 <PovAddict> bunch of BS it seems
16:29 <PovAddict> time travel is only feasible read-only imho
16:32 <zombie67> hello
16:32 <zombie67> LHC seems to be send out a few hundred WUs
16:33 <PovAddict> 06/02/2008 19:33:05|lhcathome|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
16:33 <zombie67> yeah.
16:33 <zombie67> the "Results in progress" jumped up by a couple hundred, and I got a few
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16:42 <xcamel> haven't got any in a while..
16:44 <PovAddict> Saenger: ping
16:45 <PovAddict> Saenger: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=928&nowrap=true#15239
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16:50 <Saenger> PovAddict: pong
16:51 <PovAddict> that may be interesting for you if you have a big power-eating farm
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16:56 <Saenger> I have a single puter ;)
16:56 <Saenger> and I work at a
16:56 <Saenger> power plant
16:57 <Saenger> :D
16:58 <PovAddict> lol
16:59 <PovAddict> big "nevermind" then
17:00 <Saenger> quite right
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17:07 <xcamel> working at a power plant is cool...
17:07 <xcamel> always thought I'd love that job
17:08 <sethy> i'll go for you
17:08 <PovAddict> can I say "lies"?
17:08 <Saenger> problem is: it's in maintenance, and that has to take place when electricity is cheap
17:08 <Romulus> (if seti's servers are disabled.
17:08 <Saenger> and that's usually at weekends
17:09 <Saenger> or for example last night
17:09 <PovAddict> can't do maintenance at peak-usage hours...
17:09 <xcamel> my wifes g-grandfather worked at a hydro plant - used to make money on the side making bar magnets for the kids...
17:09 <xcamel> a good friend works for PSEG also..
17:11 <xcamel> 5 cents and any old chunk of iron..
17:12 <sethy> i use to have 2 emulators of nuclear power plant with the uranium cores and particle acceleration
17:13 <xcamel> 3 small turbines on the upper hudson
17:18 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...
17:19 * wdsmia_w has left the building bbl
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17:23 <xcamel> double parked in a parallel universe, eh?
17:39 <xcamel> still waiting for Don to pop in... missed him this morning..
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17:55 <xcamel> cflags j2 for multi-core, right?
17:55 <xcamel> or j3
17:55 <xcamel> ??
17:56 <PovAddict> -j2 will make it compile two files at the same time
17:56 <xcamel> multithreaded... ??
17:57 <PovAddict> it won't affect the compiled program
17:57 <PovAddict> just how fast the compilation itself is
17:57 <PovAddict> oh and it's not on cflags, just directly an argument to make
17:58 <xcamel> o2 for basic optimizations?
17:58 <PovAddict> be careful to never use -j without a number, as that means "infinite"... if the program consists of 100 source files, make will start 100 instances of gcc, and that quickly eats your RAM and your swap too
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18:00 <PovAddict> hmm... I think it's like this: -O1 for basic optimizations (which make it faster *and* smaller), -O2 for most optimizations (some speed/size tradeoffs here), -O3 for things that usually make it faster but *might* make it actually slower in some cases
18:02 <MTughan> -Os can also optimize for size, but not at the expense of speed.
18:02 <MTughan> -Oz optimizes for size at all costs, but it also only Apple GCC only.
18:09 <infinisoft> I couldn't find the root cause for my svchost CPU spikes but I was able to kill the specific thread in svchost causing the spikes and haven't seen any side effects yet.
18:12 <xcamel> thanks.. worked fine..
18:13 <xcamel> new version of lm_sensors
18:14 <wdsmia> re-hi
18:15 <MTughan> Stupid thing... Loading problems with sites I was having earlier wasn't because of my Internet, it was because of the browser...
18:15 <xcamel> 3.0.1 is out, btw..
18:20 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: Nice system, the Skulltrail.
18:28 <xcamel> are there dns servers going down all over.. now google is knocked out..
18:28 <MTughan> I can get to Google Canada.
18:28 <xcamel> it came back up..
18:28 <MTughan> And google.com.
18:28 <xcamel> weird..
18:29 <xcamel> can you hit this one >> foobillard.sunsite.dk ??
18:29 <PovAddict> if DNS servers are going down, do some lookups and save the IPs on your /etc/hosts file, before it gets worse
18:29 <MTughan> Yes, I can get there.
18:29 <MTughan> Tried running that once, I don't think I succeeded.
18:29 <xcamel> it won't hit from here..
18:30 <MTughan> You want to download it?
18:30 <xcamel> I get the 'ports' page..
18:30 <xcamel> not helpful..
18:30 <MTughan> You're wanting the source?
18:31 <PovAddict> xcamel: try this http://www.youhide.com/nph-info.pl/001110A/687474703a2f2f666f6f62696c6c6172642e73756e736974652e646b2f
18:32 <xcamel> no... I need to send him a couple of bug reports..
18:32 <xcamel> oh well..
18:33 <PovAddict> did my link work?
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18:47 <sethy> php question
18:47 <MTughan> php <file>
18:47 <PovAddict> ##php
18:48 <sethy> just made an uploader script, and it gives blank screen when i click upload
18:49 <mweltin> sethy, that could be a few things, do you output anything to the screen after the upload?
18:49 <xcamel> thanks - that got me to the site..
18:49 <sethy> nothing at all
18:49 <MTughan> Dinner time...
18:49 <MTughan> sethy: Check Apache's logs too.
18:50 <mweltin> sethy, do YOU print anything, if not why would you expect something on the screen?
18:50 <sethy> it should print
18:51 <sethy> has or die inside if
18:51 <mweltin> maybe its not dying
18:51 <sethy> copy ( $_file )
18:52 <Romulus> If you require tracking on your dvorak?
18:52 <sethy> or die ( "Could not copy file" );
18:52 <PovAddict> then if the copy works, you aren't showing anything
18:52 <sethy> using qwertymon right now
18:52 <PovAddict> so if you aren't telling it to show anything, of course it won't :)
18:52 <sethy> it doesnt even copy...
18:53 <xcamel> FooB is really good, but there are a couple of engine and rule bugs I let him know about..
18:53 <mweltin> as I recall it copies a file with some strange temp name to a temp area, and it's up to youto resolve the name and move it to where you want it.
18:54 <PovAddict> that's not loading sethy
18:54 <xcamel> serious netfog tonight...
18:56 <sethy> it loads for rob and luke
18:56 <sethy> its meant to load the src if you mean its not
18:56 <PovAddict> it times our
18:56 <PovAddict> out*
18:56 <sethy> stop torrenting?
18:57 <PovAddict> I'm not...
18:57 <PovAddict> I have NOTHING loading
18:57 <sethy> can anyone else confirm its not loading?
18:57 <PovAddict> &fetch http://sethiroth66.gotdns.com/textfiles/uploader.php.txt
18:57 <Romulus> PovAddict: '<?php\r\n if( $_FILES[\'file\'][\'name\'] != "" )'
18:57 <PovAddict> works for rommie
18:57 <Romulus> Title: Network Overview /// Internet Traffic Report (at www.internettrafficreport.com)
18:58 <PovAddict> 25% pkt loss
18:58 <sethy> lol
18:58 <sethy> that is seriously bad
18:58 <xcamel> indeed
19:02 <PovAddict> eek
19:02 <PovAddict> there's a 0 there
19:02 <xcamel> parts of Wisconsin... 18" of snow and counting...
19:02 <PovAddict> SA: Argentina has index 28, Colombia 0
19:05 <FreeLarry58> &weather 98366
19:05 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: Temperature: 36°F / 2°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 30.13in / 1020hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h ; Tonight - Windy...rain. Lows in the upper 30s. South wind 15 to 25 mph...becoming southwest 25 to 35 mph overnight with gusts to around 55 mph overnight...strongest south of SeaTac.; Thursday - Windy. Mostly cloudy with showers likely. Highs (1 more message)
19:06 <xcamel> just dipped to 30 here - gonna make it ugly for tomorrow..
19:07 <xcamel> and... Hi Larry
19:12 <sethy> s.America current index : 46
19:12 <sethy> thats bad
19:13 <sethy> packet loss 28%
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19:16 <xcamel> damn... rain freezing pretty heavily now..
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19:22 <CoderForLife> g'evening
19:23 <xcamel> 'lo Don
19:23 <xcamel> weather miss you?
19:27 <CoderForLife> t-storms came thru at 1:45am - lots of wind, rain, lightning - need to call Mom here in a few and see how they did
19:28 <mweltin> hey #mysql isn't helping me, does anyone know off hand if you can do an update on multible tables with a join tossed in?
19:28 <mweltin> I'm tyring to udpate some lost credits for folks.
19:29 <PovAddict> I wouldn't do an update with joins on a database I cared... because I would do it wrong :)
19:29 <mweltin> made a test database just for this query
19:29 <PovAddict> nested queries seem to me more intuitive than joins...
19:29 <CoderForLife> sounds risky to me
19:30 <mweltin> I live on the edge CFL
19:30 <CoderForLife> got some sample SQL?
19:30 <mweltin> update invoice join invoice_items on invoice_items.invoiceID = invoice.id set invoice.custID = 3 and invoice_items.amount = 100.00 where invoice.id = 2;
19:30 <xcamel> squeeeeeel
19:30 <mweltin> taht doesn't work
19:30 <CoderForLife> nasty
19:31 <mweltin> yeah it will be quicker to just do two queries.
19:31 <CoderForLife> yeah - I have NEVER seen anything like that attempted
19:31 <mweltin> I want to update the users toal_credit and the total_credit of their team at the same time.
19:32 <PovAddict> at the same time?
19:32 <mweltin> yes one query
19:32 <PovAddict> update team set total_credit...; update user set total_credit...;
19:32 <mweltin> not one to the the team id, and two to update the user and team credits
19:32 <CoderForLife> xcamel always gets excited and starts squeeling whenever we talk Code
19:33 <mweltin> I don't have the team id in my hand
19:33 <mweltin> oh well
19:33 <mweltin> just me being lazy
19:33 <PovAddict> update team set total_credit=1234 where id=(select teamid from user where id=1234);
19:33 <PovAddict> I use nested queries when I'm too lazy to figure out the join syntax, ie. almost always
19:34 <CoderForLife> sub-selects are always tricky
19:34 <xcamel> I still want someone to write that plugin that pulls the total user credits from boincstats to display here..
19:34 <infinisoft> I've only seen aggregated XML stats available from the boinc combined stats site.
19:34 <CoderForLife> sub-updates will probably be sub-satisfying
19:35 <PovAddict> do you know python, infinisoft?
19:35 <infinisoft> Nope
19:35 <infinisoft> :DF
19:35 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: I know sub-queries are less efficient than joins... but that doesn't really matter for a one-time query
19:35 <CoderForLife> I never met a python that I liked
19:36 <CoderForLife> efficiency is one time - "do what you expect" is something else
19:36 <CoderForLife> er "one thing"
19:36 <CoderForLife> somebody said "one time" and messed me up
19:37 <PovAddict> sub-queries feel like function calls... update_team(get_team_id(user));
19:37 <mweltin> you only get one where clause right?
19:38 <PovAddict> yes, but you can use 'and' on the where clause
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19:50 <xcamel> wow is it slippery out... glare ice everywhere..
19:58 <MTughan> We're being predicted at 2-4cm/hour overnigh.
19:58 <MTughan> overnight*
19:58 <MTughan> So 1-2 inches about.
20:00 <efc> &weather 31088
20:00 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 64°F / 18°C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 29.83in / 1010hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 30s. West winds 5 to 15 mph.; Thursday - Sunny. Highs in the lower 60s. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Thursday Night - Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 30s. Light and variable winds.;
20:00 <sethy> for some reason boinc manager starts off really small
20:00 * CoderForLife feels his eyes glaze over
20:00 <sethy> its like a window but only shows the title bar
20:00 <CoderForLife> I'm off 4 2 nite
20:00 <CoderForLife> cya folks
20:01 <sethy> ciao
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20:02 <seth_sleeping> sleep time for me, bye guys 'n gals
20:02 <MTughan> Bye.
20:04 <xcamel> &nn
20:04 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!
20:04 <PovAddict> MTughan: idea
20:04 <PovAddict> for your mgr
20:05 <PovAddict> can you "gray out" a progress bar?
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20:05 <MTughan> You can make it "indeterminate" I believe.
20:05 <PovAddict> I mean show it in gray...
20:05 <PovAddict> instead of green
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20:06 <MTughan> Change the color? I'll see...
20:06 <MTughan> I don't see anything.
20:07 <PovAddict> I was thinking of graying out progress bars from workunits not running :)
20:07 <MTughan> Ah... Might not be a bad idea if it can be implemented.
20:07 <Romulus> Before I waste the whole first session
20:07 <MTughan> I was also thinking of changing my API to do what you thought the normal API should do: make it event based.
20:08 <MTughan> Have the API reload the objects on a regular basis, and send events to a delegate object that stuff has changed.
20:08 <MTughan> Anyway, I don't see anything in the default cell, but that doesn't mean I can extend it and try to change it.
20:09 <PovAddict> anyway just an idea...
20:09 <PovAddict> also... you could try attaching to BOINC Alpha for testing the transfers tab
20:09 <PovAddict> since it has short-running workunits with 4MB downloads and 4MB uploads
20:10 <MTughan> Okay.
20:10 <PovAddict> accounts are given on request, to people wanting to use it for alpha-testing official clients
20:10 <PovAddict> I could give you my account key (not my email/password since that's the same for all projects)
20:11 <MTughan> I still have to attach to projects from the official account manager, I haven't gotten that in yet.
20:11 <PovAddict> useful feature for power users: attaching to multiple projects at once
20:12 <PovAddict> it would still need to do it one-by-one internally, but that way I wouldn't need to wait
20:12 <MTughan> Yeah, that can be done.
20:12 <PovAddict> I type a bunch of URLs, email and password (since all projects have the same), click OK, and go do something else
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20:12 * KathrynM is back (gone 02:54:22)
20:12 <PovAddict> _o/
20:13 <KathrynM> \o_
20:14 <PovAddict> time to work on some Code
20:14 <PovAddict> wasted too much time today...
20:14 <KathrynM> have fun
20:20 <Bad_At_Home> evening
20:20 <KathrynM> hiya
20:26 <xcamel> 'lo BB
20:51 <xcamel> salt truck finally went by - can't even walk on the front steps..
20:52 <wdsmia> sounds like last night and this morning here
20:53 <wdsmia> and you can have it :)
20:53 <xcamel> slippery as hell
20:54 <xcamel> &weather 12074
20:54 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 29.3°F / -1.5°C | Humidity: 97% | Pressure: 29.61in / 1002.6hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Freezing Rain | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 7.0mph / 11.3km/h ; Tonight - Freezing rain...sleet with a chance of snow this evening...then snow after midnight. Snow and sleet accumulation of 1 to 3 inches. Ice accumulation around one third of an inch. Near steady temperature in the upper (2 more messages)
20:54 <xcamel> &more
20:54 <Romulus> xcamel: 20s. Northeast winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy. Snow in the morning...then a chance of snow showers in the afternoon. Total snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches. Highs in the mid 30s. East winds around 5 mph...becoming northeast in the afternoon. Chance of snow 80 percent.; Thursday Night - Partly cloudy in the evening...then becoming mostly cloudy. (1 more message)
20:54 <xcamel> &more
20:54 <Romulus> xcamel: Lows in the mid 20s. West winds 10 to 15 mph... decreasing to around 5 mph after midnight.; Winter Weather Advisory for Saratoga County in effect until 10:00 AM EST on February 07, 2008; Areal Flood Watch for Saratoga County in effect until 5:00 AM EST on February 07, 2008;
20:54 <xcamel> nice mess
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20:56 <MTughan> &weather Toronto
20:56 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 28Â°F / -2Â°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.51in / 999hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 24mph / 39km/h | Updated: 8:53 PM EST; Tonight - Snow at times heavy diminishing overnight. Amount 10 to 15 cm(3.9 to 5.8 in). Wind becoming northeast 30 km/h (19 mph) gusting to 50 km/h (31 mph) early this evening. Low -6C(21F).; Thursday - Light snow ending early in the (1 more message)
20:56 <MTughan> &more
20:56 <Romulus> MTughan: morning then sunny with cloudy periods. Wind northeast 30 km/h (19 mph) becoming light in the afternoon. High -3C(26F). Thursday night cloudy. 60 percent chance of flurries overnight. Low -8C(17F).; Friday - A mix of sun and cloud with 60 percent chance of flurries. High -1C(30F).;
21:00 <Bad_At_Home> &weather 86046
21:00 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Temperature: 29.3°F / -1.5°C | Humidity: 48% | Pressure: 23.65in / 800.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows 4 to 14. West winds around 15 mph early in the evening becoming light.; Thursday - Not as cool. Partly cloudy. Highs 43 to 49. Light winds becoming southwest around 15 mph in the afternoon.; Thursday (1 more message)
21:01 <Bad_At_Home> &more
21:01 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Night - Mostly clear. Lows 10 to 18. Southwest winds around 15 mph early in the evening becoming light.;
21:01 <MTughan> Well at least you have no wind.
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21:33 <FreeLarry58> humm guess i need to connect myself again to some
21:34 <FreeLarry58> howdy hawmps-away PovAddict CoderForLife efc Romulus PieSpyRom siofwolvesta Tank_Master wdsmia
21:34 <MTughan> 'lo FL
21:34 <xcamel> out in left field again?
21:34 <MTughan> Or FreeLarry58 in this case.
21:34 <FreeLarry58> lo MTughan and xcamel
21:34 * Tank_Master slaps FreeLarry58 around a bit with a large trout
21:34 * MTughan beats up Tank_Master with an extra large set of Windows 3.11 floppies
21:35 <FreeLarry58> ohh that might feel good with me 'ead the way it is
21:35 * FreeLarry58 takes the extra large disks for win 3.11 from MTughan so he can load into the one machine
21:36 * MTughan hurts FreeLarry58 with a small Unix bible
21:36 <MTughan> /slap FreeLarry58
21:36 <FreeLarry58> lol is it the size of those pills i've been taking for this cold?
21:36 <MTughan> That's all I have to do.
21:36 <MTughan> lol
21:36 * MTughan beats up FreeLarry58's pills with a horrifying Unix bible
21:37 <MTughan> Stupid HTML formatting...
21:37 <xcamel> &insult FreeLarry58
21:37 <Romulus> FreeLarry58 - You are nothing but a dankish plate of warped toenails.
21:37 <FreeLarry58> already drifing around where i see 3 monitors in front of me
21:37 * MTughan kills FreeLarry58's pills with an extra large Back Street Boys CD
21:37 <MTughan> Damn it!
21:37 <Tank_Master> &insult Hay you know what?
21:37 <Romulus> Hay you know what? - You are nothing but an off-color stack of sausage-snorfling guts.
21:37 <PovAddict> lolfail
21:37 <FreeLarry58> lol
21:37 <MTughan> PovAddict: That's using unescape().
21:38 <xcamel> re-do-from-start
21:38 * FreeLarry58 drifts back to bed
21:38 <Tank_Master> gn fl
21:38 <FreeLarry58> &whatis piespy
21:38 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: "piespy" could be http://lledgerock.com/boinc_logs/boinc-current.png
21:38 <MTughan> Oh, oops... unescape does something else.
21:38 <PovAddict> rommie center of attention again
21:39 * KathrynM thinks you all are REALLY weird
21:39 <xcamel> always..
21:39 <PovAddict> see who's talking...
21:39 <PovAddict> ;)
21:39 <xcamel> &bighello
21:39 <Romulus> Hello Bad_At_Home, benje, BiteAbleKat, bryanUC, c0dewarrior, Celelaptop, Celelibi, CoderForLife, d00m1001, deprecated, desti, efc, flight16, FreeLarry58, hawmps-away, infinisoft, KathrynM, Lorvija, MacG_, MTughan, PieSpyRom, PovAddict, PriitM_, quail, redeeman, Romulus, seth_sleeping, siofwolves, Soul_keeper, Tank_Master, TheFons, TMatWork, wdsmia, wraund, and xcamel
21:39 <PovAddict> oshi-
21:39 <flight16> Romulus, hello.
21:39 <Romulus> Wish I knew!
21:39 <xcamel> that wakes them all up..
21:40 <KathrynM> we all know you're a litle slow on the pick up Romulus
21:40 <PovAddict> xcamel: I think the bot takes the name only if at beginning or end... let's see
21:40 <PovAddict> I mean PieSpyRom
21:40 <xcamel> <PieSpyRom> #boinc: Graph: 95 nodes and 30 edges.
21:41 <Romulus> I'm a bot, not a bricklayer..
21:41 <KathrynM> lol
21:41 <KathrynM> on that note... bbiab... lunch time
21:41 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...
21:42 * MTughan kills FreeLarry58's pills with a breath taking iron bar
21:42 <MTughan> There.
21:52 <xcamel> extra well connected now..
21:53 <xcamel> zombony is stuck out in left field...
21:53 <PovAddict> zombie67
21:54 <PovAddict> heh messed it up differently
21:54 <Tank_Master> ?
21:55 <xcamel> well... off with me...
21:55 * xcamel is away: Gone away for now.
21:55 *** xcamel is now known as xcamel_away
22:18 <MTughan> WTF? Is the main BOINC site down?
22:19 <PovAddict> wfm
22:19 <MTughan> Trac's up, but the homepage isn't...
22:19 <Romulus> Title: BOINC (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
22:19 <MTughan> Rommie seems to get it...
22:21 <MTughan> I don't know...
22:21 <MTughan> I was wondering if there's a vector version of the BOINC logo somewhere.
22:22 <PovAddict> I see no SVG
22:23 <MTughan> Hmm... Because I'd like to render it at 512x512.
22:23 <PovAddict> oh, you meant the square one
22:23 <MTughan> Yeah, that's big enough... Thanks.
22:23 <MTughan> I can pull it from there.
22:23 <Romulus> praying to the client?
22:24 <MTughan> 4 times that size.
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22:24 <PovAddict> there is a vector form actually
22:24 <MTughan> I can use that then.
22:25 <PovAddict> but it would be better to use the shiny 3Dified version...
22:25 <MTughan> But I'd have to scale it up.
22:25 <PovAddict> I mean it would be better if there was vector for that :)
22:25 <MTughan> Inkscape might be able to do something...
22:25 <PovAddict> vector form of the whole "BOINC" logo (not the icon) is available as Adobe Illustrator or PDF
22:27 <MTughan> Because Inkscape does include some bitmap tracing functions, it might be able to get something like it.
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22:32 <MTughan> Hmm... Do you know how that logo was made?
22:33 <PovAddict> probably adobe illustrator, not sure
22:33 <PovAddict> it's also available in some Corel format, I think
22:33 <MTughan> GIMP might be able to open if.
22:33 <MTughan> it*
22:33 <PovAddict> wait, you mean the flat-colored logo or the shiny icon?
22:34 <MTughan> Path scanning isn't working too well. Not enough detail in the scans.
22:34 <MTughan> Shiny icon.
22:34 <PovAddict> there's only bitmaps for that one, at least I can't find anything else
22:34 <MTughan> Yeah, the vectors aren't accurate enough, not with the bitmap I have.
22:35 <MTughan> I could always ask a mailing list... Would boinc_dev take care of that kind of stuff?
22:36 <PovAddict> that, or mail DA directly
22:48 * KathrynM is back (gone 01:06:42)
22:49 <KathrynM> ya know... I don't get how moving the BOINC directory on my xp box has suddenly removed my ability to connect to it remotely.
22:49 <KathrynM> It's not the firewall, because I still can't connect when I turn it off.
22:49 <PovAddict> got remote_hosts.cfg?
22:50 <KathrynM> yeah
22:50 <KathrynM> all I did was move the stinkin' directory off of d:
22:50 <KathrynM> (hopefully I'll get LInux installed on that partition one of these days)
22:50 <KathrynM> i can ping the computer from the cli
22:51 <PovAddict> are you on linux now?
22:51 <KathrynM> and I can connect to the other xp box
22:51 <KathrynM> yeah
22:51 <KathrynM> I even rebooted the stupid thing
22:51 <PovAddict> nc -vv 192.168.1.42 31416
22:51 <PovAddict> replace IP as appropriate
22:51 <KathrynM> what is that?
22:51 <MTughan> Well... I was trying to trace it in Inkscape, but I wonder if it'd be better to do it in POV-Ray or Blender...
22:51 <PovAddict> connecting to the GUI RPC port
22:51 <PovAddict> manually
22:51 <KathrynM> in a shell?
22:51 <PovAddict> yes
22:51 <PovAddict> MTughan: is the transfers tab fully working?
22:52 <MTughan> I haven't even started work on it yet.
22:52 <KathrynM> is it supposed to do something?
22:52 <PovAddict> then what the f*ck are you doing struggling with the f*cking icon! you're starting to be like me
22:52 <KathrynM> lol
22:52 <PovAddict> getting stuck at silly details
22:53 <PovAddict> by the way, I should stop wondering "iostreams or stdio?" and just get this thing DONE so that it does something useful
22:53 <MTughan> Hey, I'm being amused.
22:53 <MTughan> I've stayed in the text world too long, I need some graphics.
22:54 <PovAddict> make sure your Show Graphics button works then
22:54 <MTughan> It does.
22:54 <PovAddict> also, in similar status here
22:54 <MTughan> I've already tested graphics.
22:54 <PovAddict> the last few days I was working on parsing init_data.xml, or parsing the WU-specific data the primegrid apps create, but nothing on the OpenGL code
22:55 <PovAddict> wow 12MB ctags file
22:55 <KathrynM> hmmmmmmm... nc does nothing
22:56 <PovAddict> KathrynM: if you added -vv, it should have printed *something*
22:56 <KathrynM> I did add vv
22:56 <KathrynM> -vv even
22:56 <PovAddict> no output at all?
22:56 <KathrynM> it sits there until i hit crl-c
22:56 <KathrynM> nothing
22:56 <KathrynM> nada
22:56 <KathrynM> zero
22:56 <KathrynM> zilch
22:56 <PovAddict> yeah it's expected that it gets stuck (particularly if it connects successfully; it's waiting for input) but it should have printed something
22:56 <KathrynM> but it works for the other computer
22:57 <KathrynM> [Kathryn@Galaxy ~]$ nc -vv 192.168.123.145 31416
22:57 <KathrynM> Connection to 192.168.123.145 31416 port [tcp/xqosd] succeeded!
22:57 <PovAddict> here it says: localhost [127.0.0.1] 31416 (?) open
22:57 <KathrynM> that's the good one
22:57 <KathrynM> the other computer... nothing.
22:57 <PovAddict> wow yours is .123 too? many people thought mine was weird
22:57 <PovAddict> most people have 192.168.1.* apparently
22:57 <KathrynM> PovAddict, I know nothing.
22:57 <PovAddict> 123 is fancier :]
22:58 <KathrynM> I'm grateful it works at all
22:58 <PovAddict> well try again on the xp machine, leave it a minute or two; should at least timeout
22:59 <PovAddict> you sure you got the IP right?
22:59 <MTughan> Heh... PovAddict: We currently have 10.0.0.*.
22:59 <KathrynM> very sure
22:59 <MTughan> At school we have 192.168.22.*.
22:59 <KathrynM> I made sure it hadn't changed
22:59 <PovAddict> MTughan: ahh you brag you have a bigger network?
22:59 <MTughan> What, at school?
23:00 <PovAddict> since those nets are actually 192.168.*.* and 10.*.*.*
23:00 <KathrynM> I can ping the computer just find
23:00 <KathrynM> *fine
23:00 <MTughan> Yeah, I know.
23:00 <MTughan> So my laptop can be either 10.0.0.14 or 192.168.22.116.
23:00 <PovAddict> 65536 vs 16777216
23:01 <PovAddict> possibilities on the * numbers
23:01 <MTughan> 16-bit vs...
23:01 <MTughan> 32-bit?
23:01 <PovAddict> 24
23:01 <MTughan> Ah.
23:01 <MTughan> I didn't think it was 32-bit.
23:01 <PovAddict> 32 would be *.*.*.* :P
23:01 <MTughan> Yeah.
23:01 <MTughan> Which is all IPs. :P
23:01 <PovAddict> yep
23:01 <MTughan> What is IPv6?
23:01 <PovAddict> you'd think IPv6 uses 64-bit for the whole address...
23:02 <KathrynM> [Kathryn@Galaxy ~]$ nc -vv 192.168.123.140 31416
23:02 <KathrynM> nc: connect to 192.168.123.140 port 31416 (tcp) failed: Connection timed out
23:02 <PovAddict> but it went more crazy than that: 128 bits
23:02 <KathrynM> why why oh why?
23:02 <PovAddict> KathrynM: sounds like a firewall
23:02 <MTughan> KathrynM: Then something's blocking the connection. Network or firewall I'd say.
23:02 <KathrynM> let me try it with the firewall off again
23:03 <PovAddict> &google fread
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23:03 <KathrynM> [Kathryn@Galaxy ~]$ nc -vv 192.168.123.140 31416
23:03 <KathrynM> nc: connect to 192.168.123.140 port 31416 (tcp) failed: Connection refused
23:03 <MTughan> And make sure the client you're connecting to is enabled for RPC. :P
23:03 <PovAddict> ah better :)
23:03 <PovAddict> lol
23:03 <KathrynM> are my computers having a fight?
23:04 <MTughan> Well I'll leave you in Pov's hands... I've got to go to bed.
23:04 <KathrynM> night MTughan
23:04 <PovAddict> I'd ask... you SURE you have the remote_hosts.cfg set right?
23:04 <KathrynM> PovAddict, should be in bed too
23:04 <KathrynM> positive
23:04 <Romulus> So I can't remember when I added about 150 credits on. Was at 40.
23:04 <KathrynM> all i did was move the stupid directory
23:05 <KathrynM> unless
23:05 <MTughan> Permissions?
23:05 <KathrynM> 5.10.40 broke it?
23:05 <PovAddict> and you said you rebooted?
23:05 <KathrynM> yeah
23:05 <PovAddict> hmm... didn't you need to reinstall?
23:05 <PovAddict> I mean, you're running as service right?
23:06 <PovAddict> how did Windows find boinc.exe for starting the service after you moved the dir?
23:06 <KathrynM> service yes
23:06 <KathrynM> uninstalled
23:06 <KathrynM> moved directory
23:06 <KathrynM> installed 5.10.40
23:06 <KathrynM> whole boinc directory was read only
23:06 <KathrynM> took that off
23:06 <KathrynM> no dice
23:07 <KathrynM> boinc is running fine. i just can't connect remotely
23:08 <PovAddict> I'd say add guirpc_debug to cc_config.xml on the xp machine
23:08 <PovAddict> BUT
23:08 <PovAddict> that causes a problem reading the log
23:08 <PovAddict> the manager will update Messages tab every second, doing a RPC, and those RPCs will make it print more messages
23:08 <KathrynM> what if the manager is closed
23:08 <KathrynM> it's a service
23:08 <PovAddict> so you get flooded with one or two messages per second
23:09 <PovAddict> so... close manager, and use the stdoutdae.txt...
23:09 <KathrynM> maybe later. i need a nap
23:09 <KathrynM> and i have to write a test
23:10 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...
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