IRC logs of #boinc for Thursday, 2008-02-07

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00:38 <efc> temp dropping like a rock

00:38 <efc> &weather 31088

00:38 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 53F / 12C | Humidity: 60% | Pressure: 29.94in / 1014hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the upper 30s. West winds 5 to 15 mph.; Thursday - Sunny. Highs in the lower 60s. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Thursday Night - Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 30s. Light and variable winds.;

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04:33 <CoderForLife> brb  breakfast

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04:42 <efc3> moo

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04:45 <D_Zirt> meow

04:45 <KathrynM_> evenin' all

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04:49 <CoderForLife> hello

04:49 <KathrynM> hiya CoderForLife

04:49 <CoderForLife> morning efc D_Zirt KathrynM

04:50 <CoderForLife> and clusty

04:50 <clusty> aloha

04:50 <D_Zirt> hiya

04:50 <CoderForLife> are you coming or going, clusty?

04:50 * efc3 is looking for some movie posters

04:50 <Romulus> My nick on BOINC every minute, only when server status shows work available

04:52 <CoderForLife> &eightball Will efc3 find some movie posters?

04:52 <Romulus> CoderForLife: The outlook is poor.

04:52 <efc3> they are more complicated than I would have thought

04:53 <CoderForLife> based on what Rommie says, you'll certainly be successful =)

04:53 <efc3> &roulette

04:53 <Romulus> efc3: *click*

04:54 <D_Zirt> umm, could one of you please point me to a solid tutorial on creating a boinc project?

04:54 <CoderForLife> I trust Rommie just a much for the weather

04:55 <efc3> I can get a 24x36 or 27x40 (harder to find but more desirable)

04:55 <KathrynM> D_Zirt, not a tutorial, but the wiki has more information than you'll know what to do with it

04:55 <KathrynM>

04:55 <Romulus> Title: BOINC - Trac (at

04:56 <D_Zirt> thnx KathrynM

04:56 <CoderForLife>

04:56 <Romulus> <$> (at

04:56 <KathrynM> CoderForLife, see how much I know...  I iddn't even know there was a cookbook in trac :)

04:57 <D_Zirt> ... and Coder :P

04:57 <CoderForLife> I had to go look for the link

04:59 <KathrynM> now if I could figure out why my Linux box and one of my XP boxes don't want to talk to each other, life would be grand.

04:59 <efc3> for all networking or just file sharing?

05:00 <KathrynM> haven't tried samba lately.  but I can ping the XP box from Linux.  I just can't connect to the core client running on it.

05:00 <clusty> CoderForLife, dunno yet

05:00 <CoderForLife> =)

05:00 <KathrynM> all I did was move the stupid boinc directory from D to C

05:01 <KathrynM> and install the latest alpha

05:01 <efc3> personal firewall maybe

05:01 <KathrynM> I guess I could roll back version and see if that fixes it

05:01 <KathrynM> nope.  tried it with the firewal off

05:01 <efc3> I often have to turn mine off (can't figure out how to configure correctly)

05:01 <KathrynM> XP1 will talk to XP2

05:01 <KathrynM> Linux will talk to XP1.

05:01 <Romulus> i'm gonna snatch the latest version, after having screwed up the 20 wu limit i lost work because of the week will be aborted.

05:01 <KathrynM> But Linux won't talk to XP2

05:02 <KathrynM> I had it working, that's what bugs me

05:02 <CoderForLife> bbiab

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05:03 <sacarde_> hi

05:03 <KathrynM> hi sacarde_

05:03 <sacarde_> I have a question

05:04 <sacarde_> I run boinc

05:04 <sacarde_> in project einstein

05:06 <KathrynM> ok

05:06 <sacarde_> I have a wu, that reached expire date

05:06 <sacarde_> but wu is not finish

05:06 <sacarde_> what I have to do?

05:06 <KathrynM> how long ago did the deadline pass?  and how much time is left on the work unit?

05:06 <sacarde_> 3 days

05:07 <sacarde_> some days

05:07 <KathrynM> If you can get it back before the replacement comes back, you'll get the credit.  But if you don't think you can get it back, then you're better off aborting it and getting fresh work.

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05:08 <sacarde_> when the replacement comes back ?

05:10 <sacarde_> another quest

05:10 <KathrynM> Can you give me your user name on Einstein?

05:10 <sacarde_> sacarde

05:11 <KathrynM> give me a minute

05:12 <KathrynM>

05:12 <KathrynM> is that you?

05:12 <Romulus> <> (at

05:12 <CoderForLife> b

05:13 <KathrynM> wb CoderForLife

05:13 <CoderForLife> thx

05:13 <sacarde_> yes I am

05:14 <KathrynM> abort the work.  It's already reached quorum.

05:14 <sacarde_> yes ?

05:14 <KathrynM> yes.  just abort it.

05:15 <sacarde_> it is 62%

05:15 <KathrynM> you won't get credits for it.

05:15 <sacarde_> ok

05:16 <Romulus> you must be off.

05:16 <KathrynM> rommie, you're always a bit off

05:17 <D_Zirt> what exactly does rommie do?

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05:17 <KathrynM> rommie is the channel bot and general pain in the butt :)

05:17 * KathrynM goes to hide from rommie

05:17 <D_Zirt> lol

05:18 <KathrynM> any other questions sacarde_

05:19 <sacarde_> no thankyou

05:19 <KathrynM> you're welcome.  happy crunching :)

05:27 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

05:27 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 32.3F / 0.2C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 29.91in / 1012.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy this morning...then becoming partly sunny. Highs in the upper 30s. West winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 30 mph this morning...decreasing to 5 to 10 mph in the afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with scattered (1 more message)

05:27 <CoderForLife> &more

05:27 <Romulus> CoderForLife: flurries. Lows in the upper 20s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Friday - Mostly cloudy. Highs in the upper 40s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Flood Warning for Hamilton County in effect until 6:20 AM EST on February 09, 2008;

05:27 <CoderForLife> gee - seems like they have those flood warnings down to the minute

05:28 <CoderForLife> "until 6:20 AM"

05:28 <CoderForLife> might as well be "until 6:21:36 AM"

05:29 <KathrynM> lol

05:30 <KathrynM> &weather 44137

05:30 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 30F / -1C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 29.71in / 1006hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h ; Today - Snow showers likely early this morning...then cloudy. Snow accumulation less than an inch. Highs in the lower 30s. West winds 10 to 20 mph...decreasing to 5 to 10 mph this afternoon. Chance of snow 70 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy. A chance (1 more message)

05:30 <KathrynM> &more

05:30 <Romulus> KathrynM: of snow after midnight. Lows in the upper 20s. Southwest winds around 5 mph. Chance of snow 40 percent.; Friday - Cloudy. A chance of snow showers in the morning. Highs in the upper 30s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 40 percent.; Areal Flood Warning for Cuyahoga County in effect until 7:15 AM EST on February 07, 2008;

05:30 <KathrynM> &weather Ulsanj

05:30 <Romulus> KathrynM: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

05:31 <KathrynM> &weather Ulsan

05:31 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 38°F / 3°C | Humidity: 12% | Pressure: 30.14in / 1020hPa | Conditions: | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 6:00 PM KST; Clear. High:41 F. / 5 C.; Clear. Low:28 F. / -2 C.; Clear. High:41 F. / 5 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:32 F. / 0 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:39 F. / 4 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:30 F. / -1 C.;

05:32 <CoderForLife> time to get ready to go to w@#%

05:32 <CoderForLife> cya later

05:32 <KathrynM> later

05:35 <D_Zirt> does mr. paininthebutt do Canadian weather?

05:35 <KathrynM> Well, he does Korean weather :-)

05:35 <D_Zirt> lol

05:35 <KathrynM> &weather Toronto

05:35 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 21°F / -6°C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 29.68in / 1005hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 5:22 AM EST; Today - Snow ending this morning then cloudy with 60 percent chance of flurries. Clearing near noon. Wind northeast 30 km/h (19 mph) becoming light this afternoon. High -3C(26F).; Tonight - Increasing cloudiness this evening. (1 more message)

05:35 <KathrynM> &more

05:35 <Romulus> KathrynM: Low -8C(17F).; Friday - Cloudy. 60 percent chance of flurries. High -1C(30F).;

05:36 <D_Zirt> hmmm

05:36 <D_Zirt> &weather k0e1t0

05:36 <Romulus> D_Zirt: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

05:36 <D_Zirt> &weather k0e 1t0

05:36 <Romulus> D_Zirt: Temperature: 14.4°F / -9.8°C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 29.66in / 1004.3hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 11.0mph / 17.7km/h | Updated: 5:35 AM EST; Today - Snow ending this afternoon then cloudy with 60 percent chance of flurries. Amount 5 cm(2.0 in). High -6C(21F).; Tonight - Cloudy. Low -15C(5F).; Friday - Cloudy. High -3C(26F).;

05:36 <D_Zirt> &more

05:36 <Romulus> D_Zirt: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more.  To do so, call this command with that person's nick.

05:36 <D_Zirt> o.0

05:37 <KathrynM> there wasn't any more to your weather

05:37 <D_Zirt> awe lol

05:37 <KathrynM> :)

05:38 <D_Zirt> I hate snow

05:38 <KathrynM> &eightball Will D_Zirt get more snow?

05:38 <Romulus> KathrynM: Maybe...

05:38 <KathrynM> lol

05:38 <D_Zirt> :(

05:38 <KathrynM> &eightball Will my computers start talking to each other again?

05:38 <Romulus> KathrynM: I doubt it very much.

05:38 <KathrynM> wonderful.  :/

05:38 <D_Zirt> lmao

05:40 <D_Zirt> did you check you host file?

05:41 <D_Zirt> :s I have a problem with typing the word "your"

05:41 <KathrynM> I didn't change anything in that.  All I did was move the boinc directory and upgrade the core client.  I think I'll roll back a version and see if that helps.

05:41 <KathrynM> bbiab

05:42 <D_Zirt> I have no idea what that means lol

05:44 <KathrynM> well holy crap. that's it.

05:44 <KathrynM> I uninstalled 5.10.40 and reinstalled 5.10.49 and now I can connect

05:44 * KathrynM thinks me found a bug :)

05:45 <D_Zirt> yay!

05:45 <KathrynM> errr 5.10.39

05:45 * KathrynM goes to email the alpha list

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05:55 <desti>

05:55 <Romulus> Title: 3D Realms Disputes 'Confirmed' Reports of Duke Nukem Forever on PC and Consoles This Year - Shacknews - PC Games, PlayStation, Xbox 360 and Wii video game news, previews and downloads (at

06:02 <KathrynM> and duplicated the issue on my other xp box.

06:02 <KathrynM> Phew.  I thought I was going nuts there.

06:03 * KathrynM goes to compile 5.10.40 and see if that fixes the communication problem

06:04 <D_Zirt> congrats on not being crazy

06:04 <KathrynM> crazy, yes.  nuts no.  :)

06:05 <D_Zirt> lol, aren't we all

06:05 <KathrynM> life would be boring if we weren't.

06:05 <D_Zirt> too true

06:13 <D_Zirt> does the ubuntu VM come with any GUI?

06:14 <KathrynM> server one?

06:14 <D_Zirt> ya

06:14 <KathrynM> I think so.  There's talk of creating new ones w/o the GUI.

06:14 <D_Zirt> I tried xwindows, but no go :s

06:14 <D_Zirt> no flux either

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06:34 <hawmps> 'lo

06:34 <KathrynM> hiya hawmps

06:36 <D_Zirt> well this sucks. how am I supposed to "Append the contents of ~projects/myproject/myproject.httpd.conf to httpd.conf and restart Apache." w/o GUI?

06:36 <KathrynM> use `cat` from the command line?

06:37 <KathrynM> I'm mostly clueless about Linux, so better not listen too much to me.

06:37 <hawmps> mcedit ?

06:37 <KathrynM> are you sure there's not gui at all?  no gnome or kde?

06:38 <desti> dont need a gui for anything

06:38 <D_Zirt> but... but it says "Instructions and more information is in the readme.html file on boincadm's desktop."

06:38 <KathrynM> lol...  but it makes life so much easier

06:38 <D_Zirt> mhm lol

06:39 <D_Zirt> can you help me out then hawmps?

06:39 <D_Zirt> oh, lol

06:40 <D_Zirt> there is no mcedit

06:40 <D_Zirt> edit though

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06:42 <KathrynM> I mean, come on, a rac of 236 with work that takes 60 seconds to run?

06:55 <hawmps> edit is a pain - what distro you using?

06:57 <hawmps> did I see 'ubunny - VM' ???

07:02 <D_Zirt> ya

07:17 <D_Zirt> nvm got it, vim

07:18 <Bad_At_Home> Mornin

07:18 <KathrynM> Isn't vim the root of all evil?  :-)

07:18 * KathrynM is an emacs gal

07:18 <Bad_At_Home> &weather 86023

07:18 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Temperature: 1F / -17C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 30.33in / 1027hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Today - Partly cloudy. Highs around 42 on the North Rim to around 60 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 17 on the North Rim to around 36 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Friday - Mostly sunny. Highs (1 more message)

07:18 <Bad_At_Home> &more

07:18 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: around 43 on the North Rim to around 61 along the Colorado River. Light winds.;

07:18 <KathrynM>

07:18 <Romulus> Title: xkcd - A webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language - By Randall Munroe (at

07:20 <D_Zirt> umm probably

07:21 <KathrynM> mornin Bad_At_Home

07:21 <Bad_At_Home> Mornin Kat

07:22 <D_Zirt> the ubuntu VM doesnt come with emacs :s

07:22 <hawmps> 'lo BB, Kat

07:22 <Bad_At_Home> Mornin hawmps

07:22 <KathrynM> apt get it?

07:23 <D_Zirt> no interweb access from the machine

07:23 <KathrynM> :/

07:23 <hawmps> apt-get mc << much easier to work with

07:24 <D_Zirt> other wise I would have apt-get'ed some gui lol

07:25 <D_Zirt> oh noz the sun's coming up lol

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07:34 <PovAddict> D_Zirt: the current server VM does come with a GUI, but future versions will not

07:35 <KathrynM> mornin' PovAddict

07:35 <PovAddict> if you can't survive without a GUI, you won't survive trying to admin a BOINC server anyway :)

07:35 <desti>

07:35 <Romulus> <> (at

07:35 <KathrynM> hey PovAddict ...  fixed my connection problem

07:36 <PovAddict> I saw

07:36 <KathrynM> nice to know I wasn't going nuts

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08:52 <MTughan> KathrynM: You sure you aren't nuts?

08:52 <MTughan> :P

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09:07 <KathrynM> I could very well be nuts.

09:08 <MTughan> Like most of us here aren't?

09:08 <KathrynM> LOL

09:11 <PovAddict> uh huh

09:11 <MTughan> WTF?

09:11 <Romulus> <> (at

09:12 <KathrynM> PovAddict, do I need to send you a straitjacket?

09:12 <PovAddict> how many cats are there?!

09:12 <MTughan> At least 4...

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09:12 <PovAddict> lol

09:13 <PovAddict> an Hydra

09:13 <Romulus> so it's 13x more if you get used to the initial matrix

09:13 <PovAddict> well anyway... such a small ball of fur consisting of *four* cats... must be some small kittehs

09:14 <MTughan> &stfu

09:14 * Romulus shuts up (fingers crossed)

09:14 <MTughan> Well, notice the box below them. I'd say the other three are in there.

09:18 <PovAddict>

09:18 <Romulus> <> (at

09:18 <MTughan> Hehe...

09:18 <PovAddict>

09:18 <Romulus> <> (at

09:18 <PovAddict> o_o

09:18 <MTughan> loll

09:18 <MTughan> -l

09:22 <PovAddict>

09:22 <Romulus> <> (at

09:22 <MTughan>

09:22 <Romulus> <> (at

09:23 <PovAddict>

09:23 <Romulus> <> (at

09:23 <MTughan> Maybe that's why our cat likes the top of the VCR here...

09:24 <PovAddict>

09:24 <Romulus> <> (at

09:25 <PovAddict> omg!

09:25 <Romulus> <> (at

09:26 <MTughan> Idiots...

09:26 <Romulus> <> (at

09:26 <MTughan> Image was at Photobucket, instead of on their servers. It's gone.

09:27 <MTughan> And another one...

09:27 <Romulus> <> (at

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09:35 <PovAddict> MTughan: do you run PrimeGrid?

09:35 <MTughan> No.

09:36 <PovAddict> btw, did you ever get the BURP app working? I don't remember

09:36 <MTughan> I haven't worked on that for a few months...

09:37 <PovAddict> ah you got credit from Linux machines

09:37 <MTughan> Yeah.

09:38 <PovAddict>

09:40 <MTughan> Hmm... AI seems to be down.

09:42 <MTughan> Or at least Apache is.

09:44 <MTughan> Oh, another thing I was meaning to ask: when I have my manager done, should I bundle the core client with it?

09:45 <Romulus> may you see a lot of mail

09:45 <MTughan> Or just check for an installed one and use it?

09:47 <PovAddict> no, yours is an alternative GUI, to be installed as an addon to BOINC

09:48 <MTughan> So I'll have to check localhost to see if the core client is started, because otherwise you'll have two Managers running at once.

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09:49 <MTughan> Quitting the official manager shuts down the core client.

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09:55 <MTughan> 'lo Doug

09:55 <wdsmia_w> mornin

09:58 <PovAddict> I have LHC work!

09:58 <MTughan> Looks like a reissue.

09:58 <MTughan> Nothing new now.

09:58 <PovAddict> crap

09:58 <PovAddict> I wanted more :(

09:59 <Romulus> and what fun would that be?

09:59 <PovAddict> a LOT of fun, Romulus

09:59 <MTughan> Number of WUs in progress steady at 7044.

09:59 <MTughan> 7043 now.

09:59 <CoderForLife> hey

09:59 <MTughan> But yeah, no new work coming on.

09:59 <MTughan> 'lo CoderForLife

09:59 <CoderForLife> I got 1 LHC WU - woo hoo

10:00 <MTughan> I got delayed 20 minutes at least in LHC... >_>

10:00 <PovAddict> yay lucky us

10:00 * CoderForLife does remote cartwheels

10:01 <KathrynM> ooo..  I got one too.

10:01 <MTughan> So I'm stuck with BURP and RS work on my Linux comp.

10:01 <KathrynM> And it'll be a long one too

10:01 <PovAddict> 6 hour initial estimate, but seems to be going faster than that

10:01 <KathrynM> 7 hours unless the beam decides to run into the wall

10:01 <CoderForLife> back to w@#% - hi and bye

10:01 <MTughan> Bye.

10:01 <KathrynM> hi/bye

10:01 <PovAddict> oh wait... it has been running for 30 minutes!

10:01 <PovAddict> I hadn't noticed it before

10:02 <KathrynM> mine too

10:02 <PovAddict> it *will* be a long one then

10:02 <MTughan> KathrynM: Isn't it a little late?

10:02 <KathrynM> midnight

10:02 <MTughan> Yep.

10:03 <KathrynM> no work tomorrow

10:03 <MTughan> We haven't had school for two days in a row now. :P

10:03 <KathrynM> :)

10:03 <KathrynM> same here

10:03 <PovAddict> LHC graphics seem to use virtually no CPU

10:03 <MTughan> LHC work being generated!

10:03 <PovAddict> oooooo

10:04 <KathrynM> gah...  and me in a 30 backoff :(

10:04 <MTughan> 14h estimate.

10:04 <PovAddict> sheet

10:04 <KathrynM> 30 minute

10:04 <PovAddict> s/ee/i/

10:04 <PovAddict> (wdsmia's script can't catch that one)

10:04 <MTughan> lol

10:04 <KathrynM> :)

10:06 <MTughan> &math convert 31000 seconds to hour

10:06 <Romulus> MTughan: 8.61111111111

10:11 <MTughan> Holy crap...

10:11 <MTughan>

10:11 <Romulus> <> (at

10:11 <MTughan> That's the trampoline in our backyard.

10:11 <PovAddict> o.o

10:12 <MTughan> I didn't realize we actually got that much snow.

10:12 <wdsmia_w> remind me to kick pov later :)

10:12 <MTughan> lol...

10:12 <MTughan> Why can't you now?

10:12 <PovAddict> shush MTughan

10:13 <MTughan> Naw, I'm rather intrigued...

10:13 * wdsmia_w is busy working for the man

10:17 <MTughan> Hehe... Cat's sitting in the sun, soaking it up. Her fur's quite warm.

10:17 <PovAddict> LHC ready to send is fairly stable

10:17 <PovAddict> going up and down in a balance

10:17 <PovAddict> "in progress" going up like crazy

10:17 <MTughan> It's gradually increasing actually.

10:17 <KathrynM> hey PovAddict, when looking at ps aux, what is S, SN and S+

10:17 <PovAddict> KathrynM: I'd rtfmp

10:17 <KathrynM> don't ya think I've tried that

10:18 <KathrynM> :)

10:18 <MTughan> man ps?

10:18 <PovAddict> heck, I never ended figured the meaning of 'a', 'u', and 'x'... I just know they work nicely together

10:18 <KathrynM> lol

10:18 <KathrynM> I mimic very nicely.

10:18 <PovAddict> 'f' is a nice addition too

10:18 <MTughan> The meanings are in man ps.

10:18 <PovAddict> (shows the process tree; f stands for "forest")

10:18 <MTughan> So "ps faux"?

10:19 <MTughan> False processes? :P

10:19 <Romulus> needs a little tv while rest of that...

10:19 <PovAddict> or auxf, whatever you want

10:19 <MTughan> No, faux means false in French.

10:19 <PovAddict> &seen FauxFaux

10:19 <Romulus> PovAddict: FauxFaux was last seen in #boinc 1 week, 6 days, 14 hours, 23 minutes, and 1 second ago: <FauxFaux> Dude, watch more po.. okay, I'll let you off. =p

10:20 <KathrynM> ah...  For some reason I was looking at man top

10:20 * KathrynM smacks self in the head

10:20 <PovAddict> poor head

10:20 <MTughan> WTF? BOINC's not running any work, but it's not requesting more?

10:20 <KathrynM> yeah, it sees a lot of smacking

10:20 <PovAddict> gets so many self smacks and self bang-in-head...

10:20 <PovAddict> MTughan: does it say "requesting 0 seconds of work", or is it just never communicating with projects?

10:21 <MTughan> Not communicating.

10:21 <PovAddict> maybe they're all on a backoff

10:21 <MTughan> Network activity is on.

10:21 <PovAddict> open *your* manager, select all projects, click Update :)

10:21 <MTughan> LHC will update fine, but doesn't request any work.

10:21 <MTughan> And this is on the Fedora machine.

10:21 <PovAddict> so your cache is empty?

10:22 <MTughan> There are WUs, but they're all suspended.

10:22 <PovAddict> suspending other work to force it to get work from a certain project?

10:22 <PovAddict> that usually works, but not always

10:22 <MTughan> LHC.

10:22 <PovAddict> what BOINC version?

10:22 <MTughan> 5.10.28.

10:23 <MTughan> I can update if I need to.

10:23 <PovAddict> grep "<master_url\|debt" client_state.xml

10:23 <MTughan> Hold on, SSH time...

10:24 <KathrynM> hey PovAddict, take a look at this please

10:24 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at

10:24 <MTughan> Short term debts are all 0. And then: <long_term_debt>-83862.988952</long_term_debt>

10:24 <PovAddict> which one has that big negative?

10:24 <KathrynM> ouch

10:25 <Romulus> with only 2m points

10:25 <PovAddict> LHC?

10:25 <Romulus> It has been said that LHC is responding slowly, PovAddict

10:25 <PovAddict> shush bot

10:25 <MTughan> Oh, I see... Hold on.

10:25 <PovAddict> no wait

10:25 <PovAddict> no need to edit client_state

10:25 <MTughan> I wasn't.

10:26 <MTughan>

10:26 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Someone - post number 895069 (at

10:26 <PovAddict> grep "project_name\|debt" client_state.xml | sed "s/<\/\?project_name>/ == /g" # more readable output

10:26 <PovAddict> LHC has a huge positive debt, and not getting work?!

10:26 <PovAddict> maybe ABC is too high?

10:26 <MTughan> I don't know.

10:27 <MTughan> I haven't run ABC on there for a little while.

10:27 <PovAddict> boinc_cmd --set_debts 0 20000 0 -20000

10:27 <Romulus> Title: ABC@home (at

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10:27 <PovAddict> that will adjust them by an order of magnitude

10:27 <PovAddict> if your BOINC version has a working set_debts...

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10:27 <MTughan> No output from the command, so I'll assume it worked.

10:27 <MTughan> Yeah, it did.

10:28 <MTughan> 7.5 minutes left on communication delay with LHC.

10:28 <MTughan> In the mean time, two BURP WUs are running.

10:29 <MTughan> Actually, I just detached from ABC. I don't need it on the Fedora machine.

10:29 <PovAddict> re-check your debts

10:29 <MTughan> RS at -10000, BURP at -2600, LHC at 87000, TSP at -75000.

10:30 <PovAddict> &math calc -10000 +  (-2600) + 87000 + (-75000)

10:30 <Romulus> PovAddict: -600

10:30 <PovAddict> yep, close to 0

10:30 <PovAddict> (without your approximations, it should sum exactly 0)

10:31 <MTughan> &math calc -10468.833139 + -2643.356153 + 87444.011382 + -74331.822091

10:31 <Romulus> MTughan: -9.99993062578e-07

10:31 <MTughan> E-7. That's pretty darn close.

10:31 <PovAddict> converting it to decimal with 6 decimal digits *is* an approximation :)

10:31 <MTughan> Yep.

10:32 <MTughan> 3 minutes on delay...

10:33 <KathrynM> got one

10:33 <KathrynM> project run time fo 14 hours?

10:33 <KathrynM> make that 15 hours

10:33 <MTughan> That's what I got.

10:33 <PovAddict> 6 h estimate here

10:33 <MTughan> Almost 2000 WUs ready to send...

10:33 <KathrynM> the other compy got one of the 6 hour ones

10:33 <MTughan> PovAddict: You may have gotten an earlier WU.

10:34 <KathrynM> wtf...  pirates in a 15 hour backoff

10:35 <KathrynM> when did eric turn on HR?

10:35 <MTughan> WTF? It's still not getting work...

10:36 <MTughan> Oh, there we go.

10:37 <KathrynM> anyone getting (there was work for other platforms) from pirates on a mac?

10:37 <PovAddict> no pirates, no mac

10:37 <MTughan> Dunno, I'm not running Pirates.

10:37 <KathrynM> well, work isn't for LInux or Windows.  So that only leaves macs.

10:38 <PovAddict> or anon platform?

10:38 <KathrynM> dunno

10:38 <PovAddict> I have done it before... sending work for which *no* app is available

10:38 <PovAddict> I would test it on my machine with anonymous platform

10:38 <PovAddict> once that worked, app gets released to the world

10:39 <MTughan> Hehe... PovAddict: Pirates server is named "alvarez". :P

10:39 <KathrynM> usually he puts a message that he's running local testing (and apparently he added my ip to his local test network *shrug*)

10:39 <PovAddict> I know...

10:40 <PovAddict> 13k workunits in progress on LHC, 2k waiting

10:41 <MTughan> Aw... Seems graphics don't work over the RPC connection. :P

10:41 <PovAddict> well duh?

10:41 <MTughan> lol

10:41 <PovAddict> KathrynM:

10:41 <Romulus> <> (at

10:41 <PovAddict> N-E-ideas?

10:42 <KathrynM> I swear I read something about that on Seti long ago.

10:42 <KathrynM> want me to search?

10:42 <MTughan> Yeah, RAM makes the most sense to me.

10:42 <MTughan> Because if it's not enough, it'd have to swap to the hard drive.

10:42 <PovAddict> I heard it could be RAM *speed* too, not only swapping

10:42 <PovAddict> some crappy motherboards with slow memory controllers

10:43 <MTughan> It'd have a similar effect as swapping, yeah...

10:43 <PovAddict> BOINC apps using a lot of memory bandwidth, slowing down other apps

10:43 <PovAddict> it's more the motherboard/chipset/whatever than the RAM itself, though

10:43 <MTughan> Oh boy... Looks like LHC stopped generating work...

10:43 <MTughan> Still 2100 tasks.

10:44 <MTughan> I wonder why LHC never made a Mac app?

10:44 <PovAddict> no appropriate Fortran compiler for Mac

10:44 <MTughan> Fortran? That could do it.

10:44 <MTughan> Doesn't GCC include one?

10:44 <PovAddict> I mean, there's lots of Fortran compilers for Mac, but none of those work with their app

10:45 <MTughan> Ah.

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10:45 <MTughan> Hmm... Can directory names start with a "-"?

10:46 <PovAddict> they can, but can cause problems passing the path to programs

10:46 <MTughan> Make it rather difficult to do stuff with because of flags.

10:46 <PovAddict> yep

10:46 <PovAddict> make a file called -foo

10:46 <PovAddict> rm -foo

10:46 <PovAddict> "o is not a valid flag"

10:46 <MTughan> touch failed too.

10:46 <PovAddict> workaround is rather simple: rm ./-foo

10:46 <MTughan> Ah...

10:46 <PovAddict> in fact...

10:47 <PovAddict> rm --help

10:47 <PovAddict> my version has two tips about filenames starting with dash

10:47 <MTughan> Same.

10:47 <MTughan> Ooh, shred...

10:47 <PovAddict> for most apps, a double dash makes it stop parsing flags

10:49 <MTughan> LHC down to 1500 WUs...

10:49 <KathrynM> replied to that thread

10:53 <MTughan> All right, BOINC is positively dumb... Suspended all tasks again, and still not getting work from LHC!

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10:55 <MTughan> Not much has changed in the numbers. Nothing significant anyway.

11:05 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

11:06 <MTughan> Ah, so you know string theory.

11:12 <MTughan> PovAddict: How would I detect if the connection was cut on an RPC object? If, lets say, the core client was shut down or the network connection terminated?

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11:26 <MTughan> Gah... Still didn't get any LHC tasks! And now they're all gone...

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12:00 <hawmps> sheesh..

12:00 <MTughan> int get_project_init_status(PROJECT_INIT_STATUS& pis);

12:00 <MTughan> They might want to be careful with their variable names... :P

12:01 <hawmps> project_init_static_status would be worse..

12:02 <MTughan> Heh...

12:11 <PovAddict> "one version a day"

12:13 <PovAddict> &windows

12:13 <Romulus> PovAddict: "windows" could be

12:14 <PovAddict> &factoids change windows 1 s/40/41/

12:14 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

12:14 <PovAddict> &factoids change win64 1 s/40/41/

12:14 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

12:14 <PovAddict> just changes to proxy auth

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12:56 <desti>

12:56 <Romulus> <> (at

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13:06 <sethy> another bottle tonight :)

13:07 <sethy> apples

13:07 <PovAddict> are you drunk yet?

13:15 <Soul_keeper>

13:15 <Romulus> <> (at

13:16 <PovAddict> !

13:25 <sethy> not yet

13:26 <sethy> i did then php thing but when i load apache it says like, cann not load mhm5apache.dll

13:26 <sethy> php*

13:27 <sethy> some dll file from the loadmodule i added

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14:12 <Gregor> hi, is there a channel from boincstats avraible?

14:12 <Romulus> i'm gonna buy one

14:12 <MTughan> &stfu

14:12 * Romulus shuts up (fingers crossed)

14:12 <PovAddict> shush Romulus

14:12 <PovAddict> Gregor: this is as good as you can get...

14:14 <MTughan> If you're having a problem with BOINCstats, you can try their forums.

14:14 <Romulus> Title: BOINCstats/BAM! | Forums (at

14:15 <PovAddict> the closest thing to a "channel from boincstats" is their shoutbox :)

14:15 <MTughan> Bug submits can be put there as well.

14:16 <Gregor> okay, that is what i need :)

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15:49 <xcamel> re-hi

15:58 <PovAddict> my sister is at my cousin's house for a week... I should go turn her computer on and let BOINC work drain, to avoid deadline misses (in case the deadline is before she comes back)

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16:37 <wdsmia_w> &quiet

16:37 <Romulus> Shhhhh... Day Sleepers

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16:47 <xcamel> 'lo Doug

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16:50 <xcamel> &windows

16:50 <Romulus> xcamel: "windows" could be

16:51 <xcamel> changed already..

16:52 <wdsmia_w> *lo Jay

16:55 <xcamel> did it stop snowing?

16:59 <wdsmia_w> for now

16:59 <wdsmia_w> &weather 50319

16:59 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 23F / -5C | Humidity: 78% | Pressure: 29.88in / 1012hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening then becoming mostly cloudy. Areas of dense fog through the night. Low around 20. South wind 5 to 10 mph.; Friday - Cloudy. A slight chance of snow in the morning...then a chance of snow in the afternoon. High in (1 more message)

16:59 <wdsmia_w> &more

16:59 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: the lower 30s. South wind around 10 mph shifting to the southwest in the afternoon. Chance of snow 30 percent.; Friday Night - Mostly cloudy early in the evening then becoming partly cloudy. Low in the lower 20s. West wind 10 to 15 mph.;

17:22 <wdsmia_w> almost time to head home... bbl

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17:35 <Soul_keeper> beethoven was a rockstar !!

17:47 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:49 <xcamel> man -- it got cold quick...

17:50 <wdsmia> its been cold since November lol

17:52 <xcamel> dropped 10 in the last hour..

18:02 <xcamel> &weather 12074

18:02 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 24.1F / -4.4C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 29.94in / 1013.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a chance of flurries. Lows in the lower 20s. West winds 5 to 10 mph this evening...becoming light and variable.; Friday - Mostly cloudy. Highs in the mid 30s. East winds around 5 mph in the (1 more message)

18:02 <xcamel> &more

18:02 <Romulus> xcamel: morning...becoming light and variable.; Friday Night - Partly cloudy in the evening...then becoming mostly cloudy. Lows around 17. Light and variable winds...becoming southeast around 5 mph after midnight.;

18:03 <wdsmia> lol your still warmer than here

18:03 <xcamel> a little bit

18:03 <Romulus> Nuts... He left about 20 minutes.

18:04 <MTughan> Oh, and our snow?

18:04 <MTughan>

18:04 <Romulus> <> (at

18:05 <MTughan> That's our trampoline in our backyard.

18:06 <xcamel> lol - nice

18:09 <xcamel> it looked like that and more back in december - not much since

18:16 <zombie67> more lhc!

18:16 <PovAddict> !

18:16 <zombie67> long ones too

18:17 <PovAddict> I have two 6hour already

18:17 <PovAddict> forced update, got another

18:17 <PovAddict> downloading at... 7KB/s!

18:22 <xcamel> Yea!!

18:22 <MTughan> Argh... BOINC today decided to stop taking LHC.

18:22 <MTughan> Even though nothing else is running...

18:23 <MTughan> PovAddict: Any more ideas?

18:23 <PovAddict> detach/reattach

18:24 <PovAddict> got any workunit from some other project that still hasn't started?

18:24 <MTughan> I'll have to wait out the current WUs then...

18:24 <MTughan> Yeah.

18:24 <PovAddict> abort them

18:24 <MTughan> Abort the current ones?

18:24 <PovAddict> no I mean

18:24 <PovAddict> abort workunits from other projects that still haven't started

18:24 <MTughan> Why?

18:24 <PovAddict> it will make the client feel more "empty"

18:24 <MTughan> The whole project's suspended.

18:24 <PovAddict> maybe currently it's "overcommitted"

18:25 <PovAddict> I know, but I'm not sure how scheduler decisions work with suspended projects, maybe it's still taken into account...

18:25 <xcamel> some for each box

18:25 <xcamel> like 2 each

18:26 <wdsmia>

18:26 <MTughan> Okay, only one other task besides the two LHCs I have right now. An RS.

18:29 <xcamel> I burn through RS's like mad..

18:29 <zombie67> wow.  now 3k unsent!

18:30 <zombie67> at 4+ hours per task

18:30 <PovAddict> I'm about to finish one, 30 mins left

18:30 <PovAddict> 6 hours total

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18:41 <Romulus> New news from boinc: BOINC news Feb 7, 2008

18:42 <PovAddict> the news is: "Proteins@Home has resumed operations. Check out their paper on computational protein design  in the Journal of Computational Chemistry."

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18:56 <CoderForLife> 'evenin'

18:57 <wdsmia> *lo Coder

18:57 <sethy> hey all

18:57 <wdsmia> *lo sethy

18:57 <sethy> lo doug

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19:00 <CoderForLife> &bighello

19:00 <Romulus> Hello Bad_At_Home_, BadBarbarian, benje, BiteAbleKat, bryanUC, c0dewarrior, Celelaptop, Celelibi_, CoderForLife, d00m1001, deprecated, desti, ELGono, FreeLarry58, hawmps, KathrynM, Lorvija, MacG, MTughan, PieSpyRom, PovAddict, Priit_M, quail, redeeman, Romulus, sethy, Soul_keeper, TheFons, TMatWork, wdsmia, wraund, xcamel, and zombie67

19:01 <sethy> hey don

19:01 * PovAddict feels poked

19:01 <CoderForLife> I just had to try it once

19:01 <sethy> pov

19:01 <CoderForLife> sorry for the "interruption" =)

19:02 <sethy> i did it :D

19:02 <sethy> i set up php

19:02 <sethy> without help

19:02 <PovAddict> you have a strange concept of "without help"

19:02 <sethy> i feel so proud

19:02 <MTughan> Gah, I was immersed in Blender...

19:02 <sethy> ok i had a little help from you

19:02 <PovAddict> MTughan, yes it blends!

19:02 <sethy> the questioni is, will it blend

19:02 <MTughan> Blender, the graphics program, ya dimwit. :P

19:02 <PovAddict> MTughan said he was immersed in Blender, so he blends

19:03 <sethy> :(

19:03 <MTughan> I'm recreating the BOINC logo.

19:03 <sethy> but still, i did it, i feel so proud

19:03 <PovAddict> btw, when they ask if a server farm will blend... they're asking if it can run Blender :)

19:03 <sethy> o its not blending marbles and luquid nitrogen?

19:03 <sethy> i so can not type tonight

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19:04 <sethy> but the matter of fact is, i did it

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19:08 <CoderForLife> congrats sethy

19:08 <PovAddict> you are doing it wrong

19:08 <sethy> thankyou :)

19:08 <sethy> noyou

19:08 <CoderForLife> compile from scratch or used a package?

19:08 <sethy> actually speaking of 'you are doing it wrong'

19:08 <PovAddict> lol

19:08 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: I don't think anyone dares compiling PHP from source on Windows

19:09 <CoderForLife> ah Windows

19:09 <sethy> had to design a small webpage and use a external CSS file, and i set the background image as the broken DS

19:09 <CoderForLife> using ZendOptimizer?

19:09 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: I don't see the need for optimizers when 1 hit a minute is a peak

19:09 <CoderForLife> okay

19:10 <xcamel> 'lo Don..

19:10 * CoderForLife makes note regarding future good suggestions

19:10 <CoderForLife> hello Jay

19:10 <CoderForLife> sad day for conservatives

19:11 <PovAddict> they are good suggestions, just not suggestions for noobs

19:11 * PovAddict looks at sethy

19:11 * sethy looks at povaddict

19:11 * sethy waves around japanese newspaper

19:11 * xcamel looks longingly at the house in mexico..

19:11 <CoderForLife> looks like we'll get to vote between left and ultra-left

19:12 <CoderForLife> thinking of leaving the country?

19:12 <xcamel> anything I could post right now would get me in trouble...

19:12 <CoderForLife> lol  understood

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19:14 <CoderForLife> after hosting 3 days of training for 20 folks at work, I'm exhausted

19:14 * CoderForLife looks longingly at the couch downstairs

19:14 <xcamel> I bet - you probably need a rest..

19:15 <CoderForLife> yup - now the real work begins of putting the training to work, and not breaking faith with the trainees

19:16 <CoderForLife> but that starts tomorrow

19:16 <CoderForLife> sorry - "w@#%" x 2

19:17 <CoderForLife> tc folks

19:17 <PovAddict> _o/

19:17 * CoderForLife goes to mourn over politics in America

19:17 <PovAddict> is that what you call "rest"?

19:18 <PovAddict> (rest and politics in the same context don't make much sense to me...)

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19:42 <sethy> gd2.dll feels like not working ;_;

19:50 <sethy> my tutor at college is rich as @$%&

19:50 <sethy> he splashed out 9000GBP on camera and lenses

19:50 <sethy> i was so in shock at the news

19:52 <xcamel> bit of advice, sethy (an old addage)

19:52 <xcamel> "if you want what he has, do what he does..."

19:52 <sethy> i dont want a camera work 5k

19:52 <sethy> but i wouldnt mind the job anyway

19:53 <xcamel> you'll figure it out eventually..

19:54 <sethy> new module at college called Client Side Customisation of Web Pages, he said prize for best site made, a propper prise, so its competition time, but i dont want to feel tight over if i win

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20:21 * KathrynM is back (gone 09:16:09)

20:22 <KathrynM> mornin'

20:22 <MTughan> 'lo

20:22 <wdsmia> *lo Kathryn

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20:27 <xcamel> 'lo Kat

20:27 <mweltin> hey KathrynM

20:27 <KathrynM> mornin xcamel MTughan mweltin wdsmia

20:27 <KathrynM> how's life mweltin

20:28 <KathrynM> so uhhh "I don't have the Away Manager installed. I have the Maintenance Manager (replacement for Away Manager) installed but it's not scheduled to do anything."   Would it be wrong to ask him to uninstall whatever the heck is installed to see if that helps him?

20:28 <mweltin> good I earned my boat ride today.  I switched out an under water acustic recorder, and a thermometer.

20:28 <KathrynM> cool

20:29 <mweltin> KathrynM, que?

20:29 <KathrynM> guy posting on the boinc forums

20:30 <mweltin> oh, I have no idea what an away manager is.

20:30 <MTughan>

20:30 <Romulus> <> (at

20:30 <MTughan> My first attempt at recreating the BOINC Manager icon.

20:31 <KathrynM> wow.  that looks great (says the gal who has no taste)

20:31 <MTughan> Certainly larger than anything you can get from BOINC right now.

20:31 <mweltin> that is nice

20:31 <Romulus> I usually do it with 3 machines set up under ubuntu kills me

20:32 <mweltin> nice job shading

20:32 <MTughan> Thanks.

20:32 <KathrynM> rommie > /dev/null

20:32 <MTughan> Made using Blender.

20:34 <KathrynM> lhc not quite taking the 15 hours it estimated.  will probably be closer to 11

20:34 <MTughan> Well at least you have LHC work.

20:34 <MTughan> My Linux machine stopped getting them.

20:34 <KathrynM> sorry...  forgot about your lhc issues :(

20:35 <MTughan> I do have two though.

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20:37 <mweltin> efc how are you?

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20:42 <mweltin> would someone try this like for me.

20:42 <Romulus> <> (at

20:42 <mweltin> I got a few error messages from folks on my forum

20:42 <PovAddict> it loads

20:42 <PovAddict> read-only

20:42 <mweltin> thanks

20:42 <mweltin> perfect

20:42 <PovAddict> and loaded fast

20:42 <PovAddict> probably because I have JS disabled

20:42 <MTughan> Would anyone know how to make a mist in Blender?

20:42 <PovAddict> I don¿t know anything about blender

20:43 <PovAddict> KathrynM: LHC WUs taking 6 hours here

20:43 <wdsmia> 5-56 here

20:44 <wdsmia> 56 is a old silly-ron laptop lol

20:45 <KathrynM> works for me mweltin

20:46 <KathrynM> loads really fast too (and I don't have js turned off)

20:46 <mweltin> thanks KathrynM

20:46 <mweltin> its hosted by google not me

20:46 <PovAddict> it's the edit mode that has lots of JS code to load

20:47 <efc> mw: 28

20:47 * PovAddict thinks efc misread the question

20:48 * sethy now has ftp

20:48 <efc> no refunds

20:48 * KathrynM wonders how the bug fix in 5.10.41 now allows my linux box to connect to the windows box

20:48 <zombie67> magic!

20:48 * KathrynM thinks that it's better not to wonder

20:48 <KathrynM> mornin' zombie67

20:49 <MTughan> 'lo zombie

20:49 <efc> the despair is getting numb

20:49 <zombie67> hi

20:49 <KathrynM> zombie67!  you're a mac guy.  Are you getting (there was work for other platforms) on pirates?

20:49 <zombie67> lemme look

20:50 <zombie67> yes on my intel mac

20:50 <KathrynM> what about ppc?

20:51 <zombie67> yes on my ppc mac

20:51 <KathrynM> what's the backoff?  24 hours?

20:51 <zombie67> yeah

20:51 <zombie67> same for my XP64

20:51 <KathrynM> Oh well.  Eric's traveling so I won't bug him about it.

20:51 <KathrynM> I'm getting in on Win32 and Lin32

20:52 <KathrynM> *it

20:53 <zombie67> that covers 5 of the app types

20:53 <zombie67> only one left is linux 64

20:53 <KathrynM> don't have one of those

20:54 <zombie67> POV & MT:  to answer your question on BS, I want to be able to select multiple tasks to do things like abort or suspend.  Same thing with projects to update/suspend/NNT/reset/detach.

20:55 <PovAddict> zombie67: that post was mostly to get people curious :)

20:55 <zombie67> also, when I select lines in the messages tab, command-C should copy.  Should not have to click the copy button.

20:55 <PovAddict> and to see if some *original* request shows up - zero replies so far, though

20:55 <zombie67> tease

20:56 <zombie67> I figured I would just answer you here

20:56 <zombie67> I see you got a job making graphics for PG

20:57 <infinisoft> Hmm

20:57 <zombie67> gotta call Thailand.  BBL

20:59 <PovAddict> that's the word :)

21:00 <MTughan> zombie67: Yeah, I can take those into consideration.

21:01 <MTughan> Multiple tasks and multiple projects work fine already. I haven't gotten to the Messages tab yet.

21:03 <KathrynM> bbiab

21:03 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

21:03 <zombie67> MTughan:  also, an "update all" button would sure be nice.

21:04 <MTughan> I could do Cmd-A, then update. I'm thinking of attaching a key to that too. Maybe Cmd-U.

21:05 <zombie67> will I be able to use this tool to look at remote machines, like BOINCmgr does today?

21:06 <MTughan> When done, yes.

21:06 <zombie67> cool

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21:21 <FreeLarry58> Feb 05, 2008

21:21 <FreeLarry58> A new application called 'minirosetta' has been released. This application is a complete restructuring of the current rosetta applicaton and was designed to facilitate future development and science. Our goal is to gradually transition to this application as it matures. Graphics are not yet available but are currently under development. Please post any issues/bugs in this thread. We'll be issuing tasks in relatively small batches soon.

21:21 <FreeLarry58> Just got my first one for it

21:26 <Tank_Master> nice

21:27 <zombie67> brb, changing machines

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21:34 <zombie67> all my machines had hydrogen WUs stuck downloading today

21:38 * KathrynM is back (gone 00:34:55)

21:39 <zombie67> wow.  lhc is up to 23,000 (very large) tasks waiting to be sent.

21:44 <Tank_Master> I have several

21:45 <xcamel> it's still limiting the number though..

21:45 <Tank_Master> This is an advance notification of twelve security bulletins that Microsoft is intending to release on February 12, 2008.

21:45 <zombie67> i have more than several.....  ;)

21:55 <xcamel> laters, kids..

21:56 * xcamel is away: Gone away for now.

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22:06 <zombie67> imp is down?

22:07 <Tank_Master> what does that matter?

22:07 <Tank_Master> like theres ever any work ;)

22:07 <PovAddict> server move today

22:14 <zombie67> just curious

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22:45 <zombie67> geez....9 projects currently down

22:45 <PovAddict> :|

22:45 <PovAddict> which

22:46 <zombie67> just look at BS

22:46 <zombie67> I guess it's 10 including yours

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22:52 <Sethtro-Physics> nite

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23:04 * KathrynM really likes wget

23:05 <zombie67> what wget?

23:05 <KathrynM> command line utility that lets you download stuff from the web

23:05 <zombie67> ah

23:06 <zombie67> why not just use a browser?

23:06 <KathrynM> no easy way to right click and save some thumb nails off a web page.  so instead of copy/pasting the address of the image (that I get from the properties box) I just throw it into wget

23:06 <KathrynM> type it once, hit enter

23:06 <KathrynM> get the image

23:06 <zombie67> don't you have to type it all out that way?

23:06 <KathrynM> hit the up arrow, change one number hit enter get the next

23:06 <PovAddict> ever heard of copy and psate?

23:06 <zombie67> command line, right?

23:07 <PovAddict> paste*

23:07 <KathrynM> yes pov

23:07 <Romulus> don't make me get started with Fedora. It's just a mess

23:07 <KathrynM> but then once i open the image in ff

23:07 <KathrynM> i have to right click and save it

23:07 <KathrynM> wget is faster :)

23:07 <zombie67> so?

23:07 <Romulus> Rumor has it so is iStat, zombie67

23:07 <PovAddict> type wget, a space, paste the URL, you don't have to "type it all"...

23:07 <KathrynM> yeah

23:07 <zombie67> wait.

23:07 <KathrynM> and yo rommie...  i <3 fedora :)

23:07 <zombie67> I thought you were telnet into a machine

23:08 <PovAddict> and if it's numbers, like some URL with a digit that goes from 0 to 9, you can easily automate it

23:08 <KathrynM> tried that once.  failed

23:08 <zombie67> why can't you right click?

23:08 <zombie67> if you are in a GUI enviro

23:08 <KathrynM>

23:08 <Romulus> Title: Free Ancient Egypt Clip Art by Phillip Martin (at

23:08 <PovAddict> for n in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9; do wget${i}.avi; done

23:08 <KathrynM> try right clicking to get the thumbnail

23:09 <PovAddict> do you want to save all the thumbnails or all the big images?

23:09 <KathrynM> ah.  I tried it with globbing

23:09 <KathrynM> got what I need already

23:09 <KathrynM> I only wanted a few

23:10 <KathrynM> I'm making a lyrics sheet for "Walk like an egyptian"

23:10 <zombie67> I right click, choose "open image in a new tab"

23:10 <zombie67> from that tab, save as

23:11 <KathrynM> I don't get that

23:11 <KathrynM> *shrug*

23:11 <zombie67> don't get what?

23:11 <PovAddict> that option

23:11 <KathrynM> open image in a new tab

23:11 <KathrynM> I get open link in a new tab

23:11 <zombie67> or open in a new window

23:11 <zombie67> ah

23:11 <zombie67> I use safari

23:11 <KathrynM> which gives me the full size image

23:11 <zombie67> get a better browser

23:11 <zombie67> ;)

23:11 <KathrynM> lol

23:11 <KathrynM> send me a mac

23:12 <zombie67> trying with ff now

23:12 <PovAddict> why did you want the small images anyway?

23:12 <KathrynM> so I don't have to resize them

23:12 <zombie67> ah, yeah, ff can't do that

23:12 <KathrynM> it's a one page lyrics sheet

23:12 <PovAddict> are you planning to print them?

23:13 <KathrynM>

23:13 <Romulus> <$E> (at

23:13 <KathrynM> like those

23:13 <KathrynM> yeah

23:13 <PovAddict> remember paper has much higher resolution than screens, so if you print something that looked at the right size on a screen, it will also be the right size on paper but you'll see the pixels very clearly

23:14 <KathrynM> i'll print a test copy and see how it looks.

23:14 <KathrynM> They don't have to be perfect.

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23:56 <zombie67> 28k waiting to be sent at LHC now.

23:59 <zombie67> sweet.  I have 169 LHC tasks on my machines.  At about 6 hours per, that's 1014 hours, or 42 days worth.

23:59 <MTughan> O_O

23:59 <PovAddict> MTughan: pwned

23:59 <zombie67> and it's still downloading more.

23:59 <MTughan> Hey, I got two...

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