00:00 <Tank_Master> you man need to activate it my e-mail, but I dont know for sure
00:00 <Tank_Master> by*
00:01 <benje> ;)
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00:05 <benje> an other thing Tank_Master , i have many credit under seti which is always pending since a long time
00:06 <benje> is it normal ?*
00:14 <Tank_Master> yes
00:14 <Tank_Master> for SETI
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00:37 <benje> ok thanks Tank_Master do you know why ?
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00:40 <Tank_Master> its because you are wating for someone else to finish the same WU
00:42 <benje> ;)
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01:10 <MTughan> Have to restart, kernel and WindowServer taking 330MB RAM.
01:11 <efc> Sheesh!
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01:52 <Tank_Master> wb mweltin
01:52 <mweltin> Tank!
01:53 <mweltin> well I'm finally getting around to the GA rewrite.
01:53 <Tank_Master> :P
01:53 <mweltin> and I found out somethign about php that I didn't know.
01:53 <Tank_Master> oh?
01:53 <Romulus> It has been said that oh is it like SocialBorg, Tank_Master
01:53 <Tank_Master> or crap's sage, stfu Romulus
01:54 <Tank_Master> romulus?
01:54 <mweltin> some people on my forum couldn't upload images to their profiles
01:54 <Tank_Master> that fixed now?
01:55 <mweltin> turns out when you build php you have to have --with-jpeg-dir before --with-gd or it will only look for libjpeg in /usr/lib and nowhere else.
01:55 <mweltin> yes I tried it with my profile and it worked.
01:55 <Tank_Master> odd
01:55 <mweltin> not that I like the idea of lots of pic's being loaded but wtf are you gonna do.
01:57 <mweltin> some guy from Georgia tech contacted me.
01:57 <mweltin> wants to talk TSP.
01:57 <Romulus> want me to mess with..
01:57 <mweltin> I think that univeristy has the tsp record
01:57 <mweltin> not sure
01:58 <mweltin> I know I got a lot of TSP info from their site.
02:04 <efc> Tech also did some 4-color map theorem work.. they like computer proof type stuff
02:04 <mweltin> don't we all
02:05 <mweltin> efc you might know about this. When I first heard about istgw they had an article about cracking some kind of encryption.
02:06 <efc> istgw? Haven't heard of them
02:06 <mweltin> (doesn't matter) essentially they said
02:06 <Romulus> shouldnt BOINC cap the max percent complete an app reports to 100 >_>
02:06 <Tank_Master> no
02:07 <Tank_Master> should bots keep their bits shut?
02:07 <mweltin> the strength of an encryption algorithm (related to hashes) was how often you got the same hash for different inputs
02:07 <mweltin> Tank_Master, yes
02:07 <efc> That sounds about right, if you can get a hash collision easily, thats bad
02:08 <mweltin> but what they didnt say is, how do you use the collision information to crack the encryption
02:09 <efc> I thought it was like guessing the "key", but you can either guess the true key or anything that hashes the same as it
02:09 <efc> not an expert at any of those things tho
02:10 <mweltin> well that does shed a little light on it, not much but some. I have no need for cracking stuff, but I must admit I'm very curious.
02:10 <mweltin> I like the enigma project for that reason.
02:10 <Tank_Master> there are some boinc projects that try n find hash clashes
02:11 <efc> Well for example.. when you log into your OS, you have to enter a password
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02:11 <efc> The password is not actually stored, but its hash is
02:11 <efc> Then they rehash whatever you type in, and see if it matches
02:12 <mweltin> yes, just like the way I store passwords for any web based app i write.
02:12 <efc> So maybe I could figure out a phrase that would hash the same as yours more easily than guessing the real password
02:12 <mweltin> store the hash in the database not the password.
02:12 <efc> If the hash function is weak or reversible its much, much easier
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02:15 <efc> Of course just because you find "a" collision (and mathematically they must exist) doesn't mean that you can find a collision for anything you want, but it makes it easier to study and attack the hash function
02:16 <mweltin> you are so SAMRT efc
02:16 <mweltin> Hey PovAddict
02:24 <mweltin> so what is the difference between rsa and dsa?
02:24 <mweltin> I trying to get the login with out the password promt working in ssh.
02:26 <efc> Cant help you much there..
02:27 <mweltin> cool bean
02:28 <mweltin> s
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02:29 <mweltin> PovAddic1, ?
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02:59 <mweltin> I made it worse
02:59 <Tank_Master> the ga?
02:59 <mweltin> I now have to enter the pass phrase and password
02:59 <mweltin> no ga is gettin better
02:59 <Tank_Master> lol
02:59 <mweltin> ssh login is not
03:00 <Tank_Master> noob
03:00 <Tank_Master> ;)
03:11 <Tank_Master> im off to bed
03:11 <mweltin> night
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03:22 <mweltin> sedrbo_01
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03:35 <mweltin> hey clusty
03:35 <clusty> hey amigos
03:35 <clusty> :D
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03:49 <clusty> mweltin, how is your island in the sun?
03:51 <mweltin> nice I saw a man-o-war jelly fish today.
03:52 <mweltin> I couple weeks ago I saw a couple of hammer head sharks
03:52 <mweltin> last week was my 100th dive
03:53 <mweltin> and I switched out an under water acustic recorder and temperature logger to celibrate.
03:53 <mweltin> yesterday I watched a reef shark hunting on the edge of a reef
03:53 <mweltin> that was cool
03:54 <clusty> i envy you....
03:54 <mweltin> you should
03:54 <mweltin> haha
03:54 <clusty> i do
03:54 <clusty> :D
03:56 <mweltin> where do you live again?
03:57 <clusty> cloudy bremen
03:58 <clusty> almost north sea
03:58 <clusty> 90km form it
03:58 <mweltin> ouch too cold to dive there
03:58 <clusty> not really
03:58 <clusty> but its all gray
03:58 <clusty> and mildly murky
03:58 <mweltin> what is the water temp?
03:58 <clusty> dunno for certain
03:58 <clusty> but you can bathe from april or may
03:59 <clusty> usual temperate climate
03:59 <mweltin> its 25 C here at least
03:59 <mweltin> my C to F conversion may be off
03:59 <mweltin> 84F
03:59 <clusty> :D
03:59 <clusty> can you convert from miles/galon to liters/100km?
03:59 <clusty> :D
04:00 <clusty> this was trickiest
04:00 <mweltin> no not without a calculator
04:00 <mweltin> all I can remember is the 42 metric beers.
04:01 <clusty> whats that?
04:01 <clusty> some german 5meters of beer?
04:01 <mweltin> an estimate of C -> F is to take the degrees C double it and add 30.
04:02 <clusty> nifty trick
04:02 <mweltin> so a six back of beer in the US is 6*2+30 metric beers
04:02 <mweltin> or 42
04:02 <Romulus> Yes, thats what the hell...
04:02 <clusty> smart ass bot again
04:02 <clusty> who had the idea?
04:02 <mweltin> I have come to not like rommie
04:03 <mweltin> but like many things in this world that I can change, I have come to accept it.
04:03 <mweltin> romulus--
04:06 <CoderForLife> morning
04:07 <clusty> moin
04:07 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140
04:07 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 12.5°F / -10.8°C | Humidity: 54% | Pressure: 30.43in / 1030.4hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows 0 to 5 above. Northwest winds 10 to 20 mph with gusts up to 35 mph...decreasing to 5 to 10 mph after midnight. Wind chill values as low as 5 below.; Monday - Partly sunny in the morning...then becoming mostly (2 more messages)
04:08 <CoderForLife> &more
04:08 <Romulus> CoderForLife: cloudy. Highs in the lower 20s. West winds around 5 mph... becoming light southeast winds in the afternoon.; Monday Night - Snow likely in the evening...then snow after midnight. Snow may mix with sleet or freezing rain late. Snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches. Light ice accumulation. Near steady temperatures in the lower 20s. East winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 80 percent.; Winter Storm (1 more message)
04:08 <CoderForLife> &more
04:08 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Watch for Hamilton County in effect until 7:00 PM EST on February 12, 2008;
04:09 <mweltin> nice weather cfl
04:10 <CoderForLife> if you like adverse conditions... =)
04:10 * KathrynM is back (gone 08:38:26)
04:10 <KathrynM> evenin' all
04:11 <mweltin> KathrynM!!!
04:11 <clusty> morning
04:11 <KathrynM> :0)
04:11 * CoderForLife picks up his alarm clock and shakes it
04:11 <mweltin> today I saw a man-o-war jelly fish
04:11 <KathrynM> cool
04:11 <mweltin> crazy
04:11 <KathrynM> today i mixed yeast, sugar and water :)
04:11 <clusty> and?
04:11 <Romulus> Rumor has it and is with no internet for like a month, clusty
04:11 <clusty> booze came out?
04:11 <quail> hey CoderForLife, I see you have been checking up on me :-)
04:12 <KathrynM> lol. not quite
04:12 <CoderForLife> quail!
04:12 <KathrynM> but the kids were amused to see the bag blow up like a balloon
04:12 <CoderForLife> indeed - I have been worried
04:12 <mweltin> nice
04:12 <quail> CoderForLife: Hi Don, how are you mate?
04:12 <CoderForLife> more importantly... how about you?
04:13 <mweltin> KathrynM, and then you showed them how to build a still?
04:13 <clusty> whats that a still?
04:13 <quail> CoderForLife: I am not to bad, still kicking along
04:13 <CoderForLife> missed you around here, quail
04:13 <KathrynM> lol. not on your life life :)
04:14 * quail blushes
04:15 <quail> CoderForLife: yeah I have just been chilling out and relaxing
04:15 * KathrynM kicks bash
04:15 <quail> and trying to do sweet FA
04:15 <mweltin> KathrynM, bash got you down?
04:16 <KathrynM> apparently setenv doesn't exist
04:16 <mweltin> no
04:16 <KathrynM> but man setenv does
04:16 <CoderForLife> sounds great q
04:16 <mweltin> you use export
04:16 <KathrynM> oh.......
04:16 <mweltin> well the same machine can have serveral shells on it.
04:16 <KathrynM> I need to edit /etc/passwd
04:17 <KathrynM> using vipw
04:17 <KathrynM> but the last thing in the world I want to use is vi
04:17 <mweltin> what?
04:17 <clusty> nano?
04:17 <clusty> :D
04:17 <KathrynM> so I was told to do `setenv EDITOR emacs`
04:17 <mweltin> vi is your friend
04:17 <KathrynM> not mine
04:17 <clusty> i must agree
04:17 <mweltin> it is, vi likes each and everyone of you.
04:17 <KathrynM> lol
04:18 <mweltin> carry vi in your heart and you can't go wrong.
04:18 <KathrynM> I watched my brother using vi and decided that I'd NEVER go down that road.
04:18 <mweltin> most roads worth traveling are hard.
04:19 <KathrynM> emacs is challenging enough for me, thanks
04:19 <mweltin> vi is no exception
04:19 <CoderForLife> vi is a-ok
04:19 <KathrynM> so. How do I get vipw to use emacs?
04:20 <mweltin> but it is pure of heart, not like the devil emacs that promises, shells, and email clients
04:20 <Romulus> some really bad weather
04:20 <KathrynM> hush rommie
04:20 <mweltin> vipw uses the EDITOR evn?
04:20 <KathrynM> dunno
04:20 <KathrynM> I'm just trying to do what Eric told me.
04:21 <KathrynM> sendmail is picky picky picky.
04:21 <mweltin> set EDITOR=emacs
04:21 <mweltin> export EDITOR
04:21 <CoderForLife> once you start using vi, you'll find every file you edit outside of vi full of colon characters
04:21 <mweltin> what? cfl?
04:22 <mweltin> that has not been my experience.
04:23 <mweltin> what is vipw anyway KathrynM
04:23 <mweltin> why can't you edit the passwd file directly?
04:23 <KathrynM> what I gather is that it's safer than editing /etc/passwd directly
04:23 <KathrynM> I don't understand it.
04:23 <KathrynM> Maybe I'll leave this for another day before I reallyb reak soemthing
04:23 <mweltin> skip it, make a pack up fo the passwd file first
04:24 <mweltin> and then make you edits.
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04:24 <desti> u need to change a users passwd?
04:24 <spawny> hi
04:24 <KathrynM> no. I need to change my username
04:24 <KathrynM> sendmail doesn't care for user names with capital letters
04:24 <spawny> I'm trying to regroup all my credit around one account, but it seems credit generate in another team can't be fall over my new account in another team
04:24 <KathrynM> I'm trying to forward the mail to root to my own user account.
04:24 <mweltin> mmmmmmmmm
04:24 <spawny> I have more than 60000 pts on my world community grid accout in the team france, today I've change to the team BOINCstats, can I transfert my points into this account?
04:25 <KathrynM> spawny, no. Credits stay with the team they were earned with
04:25 <CoderForLife> brb breakfast
04:25 <KathrynM> the only exception is CPDN.
04:25 <mweltin> KathrynM, I suggest just making the back up and just doing the edit with
04:25 <mweltin> dare I say it....
04:25 <mweltin> emacs
04:25 <KathrynM> lol
04:25 <mweltin> forgive me vi
04:26 <KathrynM> i beg your forgiveness.
04:26 <mweltin> what is the worst that can happen
04:26 <KathrynM> I'm nothting but a humble English teacher geek wanna be
04:26 <KathrynM> I trash my entire system?
04:26 <mweltin> I'm just some guy
04:26 <KathrynM> any other questions spawny ?
04:26 <spawny> what a shame, 60000pts lost!! I
04:26 <mweltin> consider it a lesson in object impermanence (sp?)
04:26 <KathrynM> not lost
04:27 <KathrynM> They stay with you. THey just don't get transfered to your new team.
04:27 <mweltin> never lost
04:27 <desti> u could also create a new user and copy ur old home dir into the new users one
04:27 <KathrynM> yeah. I thought about that. But getting everything set up all nice and happy again... meh
04:27 <mweltin> desti, that is a good idea, more key strokes needed, but safer.
04:28 <spawny> kathrynmoki, so why their don't count into my stats?
04:28 <KathrynM> personal stats or team stats?
04:28 <spawny> personal
04:28 <KathrynM> Have you checked to see if you have two+ CPID's?
04:29 <KathrynM> what's your username?
04:29 <KathrynM> spawny?
04:29 <spawny> no, since this morning it's pierrespawn
04:29 <KathrynM> did you change your email?
04:29 <mweltin> KathrynM, checkout usermod.
04:30 <mweltin> usermod - Modify a user account [-l login_name]
04:30 <mweltin> you dn't have to edit the passwd file directly at all.
04:30 <mweltin> you have root no?
04:30 <spawny> no, but I do the mistake to subscribe to my projects with different mails
04:31 <KathrynM> that will split your CPID. CHange all your projects to use the same email and check back in a few \days.
04:32 <KathrynM> "usermod will not allow you to change the name of a user who is logged in"
04:32 <KathrynM> hmmmm
04:32 <mweltin> HAAHAH this is from the usermod man page..........
04:32 <KathrynM> best to log out of my account and log into root's account?
04:32 <mweltin> the
04:32 <mweltin> user's home directory name should probably be changed to
04:32 <mweltin> reflect the new login name
04:32 <KathrynM> here's the thing.
04:32 <KathrynM> I don't think I can
04:32 <spawny> this morning, change all my user informations, to regroup all my projects in the same team with the sae name
04:32 <KathrynM> I want to change my username from Kathryn to kathryn
04:33 <KathrynM> give it a few days spawny. It won't happen instantaniously
04:33 <CoderForLife> b
04:33 <mweltin> linux is case sensitve, Kathryn and kathryn are as different as bob and kathRyn
04:33 <KathrynM> in /home, there is Kathryn and kathryn
04:34 <KathrynM> kathryn is the home directory from my ubuntu partition
04:34 <spawny> kathrynm ok, thank you, you think their will appears anyway?
04:34 <KathrynM> so I can't just change my user name and home directory in Fedora to kathryn and /home/kathryn
04:34 <KathrynM> yeah spawny give it a few days.
04:34 <KathrynM> drop back in if your stats are still separated.
04:34 <mweltin> with usermod all you will do is change the username
04:35 <mweltin> nothing else will change.
04:35 <KathrynM> ok. I'll give that a shot. I'll need to log out to do so.
04:35 <mweltin> so when you login as kathryn you will still have the same home dir Kathryn
04:35 <spawny> thank you
04:35 <KathrynM> yw spawny
04:35 <KathrynM> bbiab
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04:41 <clusty> know about this?
04:41 <Romulus> Title: Linux Kernel 2.6.17 - 22.214.171.124 vmsplice Local Root Exploit (at www.milw0rm.com)
04:42 <mweltin> what is that
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04:46 <KathrynM> yahooo!!!!!!!!!!!
04:46 <mweltin> KathrynM, how did it go
04:46 <KathrynM> perfectly
04:46 <mweltin> well I gues that answers that.
04:47 <KathrynM> well... aside from the little part of being dumped into a text screen rather than a gui when I logged out.
04:47 <KathrynM> but heh. I know know how to reboot from a prompt.
04:47 <KathrynM> so now I gotta go stick that file in the right spot so the root mail starts getting forwarded to my own account.
04:48 <mweltin> gui are another source of false profits
04:48 <KathrynM> i'm learning. I"m learning. Slow and steady wins the race.
04:48 <KathrynM> At least I don't have a panic attack any more when confronted with a shell.
04:49 <mweltin> haha, yes that is a very important step.
04:49 <KathrynM> no. seriously. I would totally freak out if I had to do anything on the CLI.
04:49 <KathrynM> Now I even sort of like it.
04:49 <KathrynM> I user mplayer from the CLI and I love how lightweight it is.
04:50 <KathrynM> speaking of...
04:50 <mweltin> mplayer is the best
04:50 * KathrynM goes to mount my data parttion so I can listen to music
04:51 <mweltin> I found mencoder very useful for shrinking down dvd's to a reasonable size.
04:51 <KathrynM> not tried that yet.
04:51 <clusty> mweltin, its not a drag passing args?
04:51 <mweltin> no
04:51 <clusty> i never got around figuring out codecs/#passes and so forth
04:52 <clusty> mencoder comes with mplayer
04:52 <clusty> write some small plugin
04:52 <mweltin> oh yeah, mencoder has a million options 90% I dont understand.
04:52 <clusty> to encode a stream of png's into stuff
04:53 <clusty> mplayer is bloodu great
04:53 <mweltin> I have only used it to convert dvd's to avi
04:53 <clusty> was working in a multimedia company
04:53 <mweltin> mplayer rules, plays anything, and better than most players.
04:53 <clusty> they were doing huge displays
04:53 <clusty> and we were using mplayer to play content
04:54 <clusty> meaning 20 PCs were synched with a modified mplayer
04:54 <clusty> each played a slice of movie
04:54 <mweltin> mplayer even has an option to send the movie to your desktop wallpaper
04:54 <clusty> and was great
04:54 <clusty> lool
04:54 <clusty> cute
04:54 <Romulus> yes it does not validate?
04:54 <KathrynM> rommie, very little of what you say does not validate
04:54 <clusty> drop dead rommi
04:54 <mweltin> sounds cool
04:56 <clusty> arghhh
04:56 <clusty> being sys admin is annoying
04:57 <mweltin> its a thankless job and I would never want to have to do it for money.
04:57 <clusty> well its not in my official job description
04:57 <clusty> but we lost all svn
04:57 <clusty> and me boinc :(
04:57 <clusty> some assholes hacked us
04:58 <clusty> now they are still trying
04:58 <mweltin> if you work hard and do you job right you get no credit, if something goes wrong no one understands what it takes to fix it.
04:58 <clusty> ...and users....
04:58 <clusty> not the most versed in linuxes
04:58 <clusty> :D
04:59 <mweltin> ahhh users, do you now of the BOFH ?
04:59 <CoderForLife> if we didn't have any users, we wouldn't have any problems
04:59 <mweltin> its required reading for all sys admins.
05:01 <CoderForLife> I'm going to wander off in the direction of w@#%
05:01 <CoderForLife> laterzz
05:01 <mweltin> bye
05:01 <clusty> nope
05:01 <KathrynM> laters
05:02 <clusty> what is it?
05:02 <clusty> :D
05:02 <clusty> funny
05:03 <mweltin> very
05:03 <clusty> its just 10 accounts
05:03 <mweltin> especially if you are a sys admin.
05:03 <clusty> so not that bad
05:03 <clusty> but most of them are windows users
05:03 <clusty> and want just the svn running
05:03 <clusty> occasionally they transfer stuff
05:05 <mweltin> just read the first paragraph
05:07 <clusty> funny shit
05:07 <wdsmia> asks clusty to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.
05:08 <clusty> rite
05:08 <clusty> appologies
05:08 <mweltin> classic stuff there.
05:16 <clusty> here comes nothing :D
05:16 <clusty> recreating the SQL databses
05:16 <clusty> fingers crossed
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05:17 * KathrynM crosses fingers
05:23 <clusty> dbases seem to have worked
05:23 <clusty> hurray for boinc
05:24 <clusty> permissions are still screwy
05:24 <clusty> :D
05:24 <KathrynM> woo hoo!
05:24 <mweltin> congrats!
05:24 <KathrynM> well... permissions... small details :)
05:24 <Romulus> i have work from chess?
05:24 <mweltin> good work
05:24 <clusty> you gotta love the mailing list
05:24 <clusty> guys trhere are great
05:25 <mweltin> ok I'm going to call it a night.
05:25 <KathrynM> night Markus
05:25 <KathrynM> Sleep well
05:25 <mweltin> you'll have fun
05:25 <clusty> gnite
05:25 <mweltin> will do
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05:37 <clusty> any1 know some text mail readers?
05:37 <clusty> know pine was one
05:37 <clusty> and some other one...
05:38 <KathrynM> hold on... actually I do :)
05:38 <KathrynM> mail
05:39 <KathrynM> Eric told me mutt, mush, elm and pine.
05:43 <clusty> great
05:43 <clusty> mut
05:43 <clusty> :D
05:43 <clusty> thats was it
05:44 <KathrynM> cool
05:44 <KathrynM> i've just been using mail these last few days.
05:44 <KathrynM> But I think I"m going to look into the others as well.
05:44 <KathrynM> I may get the mutt source and build that for fun
05:45 <clusty> dont care that much really
05:45 <clusty> i needed one that worked out of the box
05:45 <clusty> to read security reports and cron logs
05:45 <clusty> :D
05:45 <clusty> on the server
05:45 <KathrynM> :)
05:46 <clusty> for any serious work thunderbird is needed
05:46 <KathrynM> lol
05:46 <KathrynM> I just use webmail.
05:46 <KathrynM> WHen I think about it, I pop it down to thunderbird to back up.
05:48 <clusty> webmail what for?
05:49 <KathrynM> gmail
05:49 <clusty> ohh that
05:49 <clusty> :D
05:49 <clusty> i kinda like institutional imaps
05:49 <clusty> but they are certainly less reliable
05:49 <clusty> old uni account
05:49 <clusty> alumni uni account
05:49 <clusty> company account
05:49 <KathrynM> I remember my first email addy :)
05:49 <KathrynM> very cryptic
05:50 <clusty> was a yahoo for me
05:50 <clusty> :D
05:50 <clusty> same
05:50 <clusty> :D
05:50 <KathrynM> email@example.com
05:50 <clusty> holly macaro
05:50 <clusty> now that cryptic
05:50 <KathrynM> they were our student id numbers
05:50 <clusty> not very smart...
05:50 <KathrynM> we logged into a unix shell
05:51 <KathrynM> I just remember typing `mail` to get at my mail
05:51 <clusty> :D
05:52 <clusty> i remember my first email account
05:52 <clusty> on yahoo
05:52 <clusty> first dialup connection
05:52 <clusty> costed lots
05:52 <clusty> and had like 2kb/s
05:52 <KathrynM> lol
05:52 <clusty> and my revelation once i found all pink floyd guitar tabs online
05:52 <clusty> :D
05:52 <KathrynM> aol was my first isp
05:53 <KathrynM> aol on a 28.8 modem
05:53 <Romulus> wdsmia: no you can't get there....
05:53 <clusty> well in RO i hijacked an account actually
05:53 <clusty> :D
05:53 <KathrynM> god how i thought the thing flew when i put a 56k modem in htere
05:53 <clusty> well my father was using dialup till sept. last year
05:53 <clusty> :D
05:53 <clusty> same crappy net
05:53 <KathrynM> lol so was my best friend
05:54 <clusty> next step up for4 me was becoming sys admin at high school net
05:54 <clusty> i was downloading like mad back then
05:54 <clusty> :D
05:54 <KathrynM> LOL
05:54 <clusty> and next step was sys admin at uni
05:54 <clusty> now this was one heck of a pipe
05:54 <clusty> 4-5MB/s torrenting
05:54 <clusty> but got bored soon
05:55 <clusty> watching 100 GB of movies can get to you
05:55 <clusty> :D
05:55 <KathrynM> :)
05:57 <clusty> btw
05:57 <clusty> guess you read the catcher in the rye
05:57 <clusty> watched yesterday such a nice movie
05:57 <clusty> reminded me of the book
05:57 <clusty> movie is called igby goes down
05:58 <KathrynM> been ages since I read it.
05:59 <clusty> same
06:00 <clusty> been a long time since i had a smirk on my face throughout a whole movie
06:00 <clusty> :D
06:00 <KathrynM> lol
06:00 <clusty> never laughed, but loved it so much
06:00 <clusty> imagine a kido with a big lollipop
06:00 <clusty> and a properller hat
06:00 <clusty> :D
06:01 <KathrynM> hehehehe
06:13 <clusty> just received my reviewed thesis
06:13 <clusty> :D
06:13 <clusty> masters
06:14 <clusty> booo gotta fix citations :(
06:14 <KathrynM> I'm so glad mine is over and finished and behind me
06:16 <clusty> i start missing the resercher athmosphere
06:16 <KathrynM> what are you doing your masters in?
06:16 <clusty> did
06:16 <clusty> computer science
06:16 <clusty> machine vision
06:16 <KathrynM> cool!
06:16 <clusty> more specific 3d reconstruction
06:17 <clusty> google earth stuff :D
06:17 <clusty> for buildings
06:17 <KathrynM> that's really neat
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06:24 <hawmps> 'lo
06:24 <Romulus> javac has to be a race at world community grid had made some CNAME records to my doctor and see what else Extreme packs...
06:24 <KathrynM> hiya hawmps
06:25 <KathrynM> oh this is just wrong...
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06:32 <hawmps> wow
06:54 <quail> &math convert 1 acre M
06:54 <Romulus> quail: Error: M is not a valid unit.
06:54 <quail> &math convert 1 acre m
06:54 <Romulus> quail: Error: unit categories did not match
06:55 <quail> &math convert 1 ac m
06:55 <Romulus> quail: Error: ac is not a valid unit.
06:55 <quail> &math convert 1 acre meter
06:55 <Romulus> quail: Error: unit categories did not match
06:55 <quail> &math convert 1 acre m
06:55 <Romulus> quail: Error: unit categories did not match
06:55 <quail> &math convert 1 a m
06:55 <Romulus> quail: Error: a is not a valid unit.
06:55 <quail> &math convert 1 arce m
06:55 <Romulus> quail: Error: arce is not a valid unit.
06:56 <quail> &math convert 1 acre m
06:56 <Romulus> quail: Error: unit categories did not match
06:56 <quail> &math convert 1 acre m2
06:56 <Romulus> quail: Error: m2 is not a valid unit.
06:56 <quail> &math convert 1 acre mxm
06:56 <Romulus> quail: Error: mxm is not a valid unit.
06:56 <quail> &math convert 1 acre sq m
06:56 <Romulus> quail: Error: sqm is not a valid unit.
06:57 <quail> &math convert 1 acre msq
06:57 <Romulus> quail: Error: msq is not a valid unit.
06:57 <quail> &math convert 1 acre m sq
06:57 <Romulus> quail: Error: msq is not a valid unit.
06:57 <quail> &math convert 1 acre meters
06:57 <Romulus> quail: Error: unit categories did not match
07:05 <wdsmia> &weather 50319
07:06 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 2°F / -17°C | Humidity: 66% | Pressure: 30.44in / 1031hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h ; Today - Cloudy. Isolated flurries late in the morning. A chance of snow early in the afternoon...then snow likely late in the afternoon. New snow accumulation around 1 inch. High 10 to 15. East wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 70 percent. Wind (1 more message)
07:06 <wdsmia> &more
07:06 <Romulus> wdsmia: chill readings 5 to 10 below.; Tonight - Snow. Snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches. Total snow accumulation 2 to 3 inches. Low zero to 5 above. East wind 10 to 15 mph shifting to the north 5 to 10 mph after midnight. Chance of snow 90 percent.; Tuesday - Partly sunny. High 15 to 20. North wind around 5 mph.;
07:15 <hawmps> 'lo Q
07:19 <MTughan> Off to school for me...
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07:51 <clusty> missed me?
07:51 <clusty> :D
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08:40 <quail> hello Jay
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08:43 <quail> &math convert 1 acre metre
08:43 <Romulus> quail: Error: unit categories did not match
09:02 <clusty> quail, maybe try google for that?
09:06 <quail> yeah might have to
09:08 <clusty> quail, there you go chief
09:08 <clusty> Die Gischt der Tage
09:09 <clusty> :D
09:09 <Romulus> Title: Online Conversion - Area Conversion (at www.onlineconversion.com)
09:09 <clusty> wrong paste
09:09 <clusty> :D
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09:13 * quail enjoyed half of his midnight snack
09:14 <quail> clusty: thanks
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10:06 <hawmps> wow - all the way up to 13F
10:06 <Snake^> Heat wave
10:06 <Snake^> -4 here :P
10:07 <hawmps> ouch...
10:07 <hawmps> Wisconsin?
10:07 <Snake^> I guess there's something I'm missing re: Global Warming
10:08 <Snake^> Yup, WI
10:08 <Snake^> Warmer than yesterday though
10:10 <hawmps> temps dropped 24 degrees yesterday - and 50mph winds with it..
10:10 <clusty> &weather montreal, canada
10:10 <Romulus> clusty: Temperature: 3Â°F / -16Â°C | Humidity: 61% | Pressure: 30.05in / 1017hPa | Conditions: Low Drifting Snow | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 22mph / 35km/h | Updated: 9:00 AM EST; Today - Cloudy with sunny periods. Wind west 40 km/h (25 mph) gusting to 60 km/h (37 mph). High -11C(12F). Wind chill -29 this morning.; Tonight - Cloudy periods. Wind west 20 km/h (12 mph). Low -18C(0F).; Tuesday - Sunny (1 more message)
10:10 <clusty> :D
10:10 <clusty> any comments?
10:10 <hawmps> due north, 2.5 hrs.
10:11 <clusty> hawmps, you from vermont?
10:11 <hawmps> &weather 12020
10:11 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 13.1°F / -10.5°C | Humidity: 59% | Pressure: 29.97in / 1014.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 6.0mph / 9.7km/h ; Today - Partly sunny with a 20 percent chance of snow showers. Highs around 20. West winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 35 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows around 4 above. West winds 10 to 20 mph...becoming northwest 5 to 10 mph (1 more message)
10:11 <hawmps> &more
10:11 <Romulus> hawmps: after midnight.; Tuesday - Partly sunny in the morning...then cloudy with snow likely in the afternoon. Snow accumulation around an inch. Cold with highs in the lower 20s. West winds around 5 mph...becoming southeast in the afternoon. Chance of snow 70 percent.; Winter Storm Watch for Saratoga County in effect until 1:00 PM EST on February 13, 2008;
10:11 <clusty> vicious..
10:11 <clusty> :D
10:11 <Snake^> I'm thinking Ice Age
10:11 <clusty> &weather quebec, canada
10:11 <Romulus> clusty: Temperature: 7Â°F / -14Â°C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 29.79in / 1009hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 22mph / 35km/h | Updated: 9:00 AM EST; Today - Periods of snow ending near noon then cloudy with 40 percent chance of flurries. Local blowing snow. Wind west 40 km/h (25 mph) gusting to 70 km/h (43 mph). High -8C(17F).; Tonight - Cloudy. Clearing overnight. Wind (1 more message)
10:12 <hawmps> another storm coming - tues afternoon to wed afternoon 12" possible...
10:12 <clusty> &weather kudjuak, canada
10:12 <Romulus> clusty: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
10:14 <Snake^> I can't help but wonder why anyone would've settled in areas where the winter is this cold
10:14 <Snake^> Wagon must of broke down or something
10:14 <clusty> &weather Kuujjuaq, canada
10:14 <Romulus> clusty: Temperature: -8Â°F / -22Â°C | Humidity: 59% | Pressure: 30.11in / 1019hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 9:00 AM EST; Today - Increasing cloudiness. 30 percent chance of flurries this afternoon. High -15C(5F).; Tonight - Cloudy with 30 percent chance of flurries. Low -22C(-8F).; Tuesday - Cloudy with sunny periods and 30 percent chance of (1 more message)
10:14 <clusty> can't even spelkl properly
10:14 <clusty> :D
10:15 <hawmps> Most who settled in WI came from NY originally..
10:15 <Snake^> You'd think that they would've pointed their wagon trains south
10:15 <clusty> this last city is coldest place i know in canada
10:15 <clusty> ...that i been in
10:15 <hawmps> the erie canal had allot to do with it..
10:16 <Snake^> I guess
10:18 <Snake^> <<<<Bored to death
10:18 <Snake^> *sigh*
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11:00 <PovAddic1> hi
11:00 <Tank_Master> &wether 97007
11:00 <Romulus> Dunno.
11:00 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007
11:00 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 43.3°F / 6.3°C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 30.35in / 1027.7hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. A chance of rain in the morning. Highs 50 to 55. Light wind.; Tonight - Partly to mostly cloudy. Patchy fog through the night. Lows 35 to 40. Light wind.; Tuesday - Patchy fog in the morning. Cloudy with a chance (1 more message)
11:00 <Tank_Master> &more
11:00 <Romulus> Tank_Master: of rain. Highs 45 to 50. Light wind becoming south 10 to 15 mph in the afternoon.;
11:00 <PovAddic1> quail: acre->meter doesn't work because acre is area and meter is length
11:01 <PovAddic1> &units area
11:01 <Romulus> PovAddic1: area units: square meter, are, hectare, acre, section, township, homestead, circular inch, circular mil
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11:01 <PovAddic1> &math convert 1 acre square meter
11:01 <Romulus> PovAddic1: 4046.8564224
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11:36 <zombie67> still cannot get my leopard install to run BOINC at 100%
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12:44 <spawny> hi
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14:25 <zombie67> still no solution. my mac will not run all 8 tasks at 100%
14:27 <zombie67> i have an AI task on my mac
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14:45 <PovAddict> &port rcp
14:45 <Romulus> PovAddict: 469
14:50 <yoyo_RKN> zombie67 : does Seti.USA join the wcg race?
14:50 <zombie67> they are discussing it.
14:51 <yoyo_RKN> do you have other plans?
14:51 <zombie67> only a few comments so far
14:51 <zombie67> at this time, I have no other plans, so I will participate at least some
14:51 <yoyo_RKN> all your friends are joining: Seti.Germany, Planet3D
14:51 <zombie67> I am 50k away from 1M, to WCG was already on my to-do list
14:52 <zombie67> when does it start again?
14:52 <yoyo_RKN> first of March
14:55 <zombie67> I should hit my 1.5M goal at SETI in 11 days, so that will be a good time to re-taks my PPC macs to WCG
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15:50 <Romulus> New news from boinc: BOINC news Feb 11, 2008
15:50 <Tank_Master> thats quite some news, Romulus
15:51 <PovAddict> &boinc 1
15:53 <zombie67> I have some AI work on a windows machine (all errored out) and a Mac (not yet run)
15:55 <Tank_Master> coo
15:55 <zombie67> but the site is down
15:55 * xcamel_away is back.
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15:55 <xcamel> re-hi
15:55 <Tank_Master> wb
15:58 <xcamel> still friggin cold out, now a big snowstorm on the way..
15:59 <xcamel> 7+ inches (I'm betting 12+) for tomorrow..
15:59 <Tank_Master> ill take some
16:01 <xcamel> at least it'll have to warm up to snow..
16:02 <xcamel> and the winds are calming down a bit..
16:03 <xcamel> You still here pov?
16:04 <PovAddict> yeah
16:04 <PovAddict> as long as my network lets me
16:04 <xcamel> suggestion for boinc gui..
16:04 <Romulus> thinks FreeLarry58 just has TSP WUs right now.
16:04 <xcamel> ad an update button to the 'tasks' tab
16:05 <xcamel> wow - that's a bad report..
16:06 <PovAddict> look at the graph at midnight
16:06 <PovAddict> for packet loss
16:06 <PovAddict> it was pretty unusable at that time
16:06 <xcamel> yupper - china spamming SA - or getting their pr0n fix..
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16:23 <zombie67> what's the deal with BURP?
16:23 <Romulus> Fedora has a unique id.
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16:26 <zombie67> is irc.icq.net down?
16:26 <PovAddict> I can't tell
16:27 <PovAddict> 50% of the internet is down or slow for me
16:28 <zombie67> more damn achors
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16:44 <PovAddict> *splodes*
16:44 <PovAddict> a BOINC server can tell a client to delete a file, by sending a special deletion message
16:45 <PovAddict> a BOINC server can also tell a client to download a file... guess how...
16:45 <PovAddict> creating a workunit with a dummy application name, and with the file as a required input file, then sending it to the client
16:45 <PovAddict> that *so* looks like a hack
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16:58 <CoderForLife> howdy
16:58 <MTughan> 'lo CoderForLife
16:59 <CoderForLife> just got down off the roof, cleaning off the weather bullseye target
17:00 <CoderForLife> j/k
17:00 <PovAddict> I'm just struggling with my 'net
17:00 <CoderForLife> there's no way I'd get up there
17:00 <PovAddict> at least it's not as bad as last night
17:00 <CoderForLife> lemme look at your crap
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17:01 <PovAddict> MTughan: 'sup with your IRC?
17:01 <CoderForLife> looks like the cartels in Cali are out of business
17:01 <MTughan> Good question...
17:02 * xcamel yawns
17:02 <MTughan> 'lo Jay
17:02 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: yeah, I think that router isn't up anymore; ITR should switch to another for their tests
17:02 <CoderForLife> good evening Mr C
17:02 <xcamel> 'lo Don
17:02 <xcamel> and Mike
17:02 <CoderForLife> looks like snow tonight
17:03 <Tank_Master> snow is fun
17:06 <zombie67> Don & Mike? The DJs?
17:06 <MTughan> lol, 'lo zombie
17:06 <zombie67> Hi
17:12 <xcamel> looks like a big snow here..
17:17 <Tank_Master> ill take some
17:17 <xcamel> you said that already...
17:17 <xcamel> :-)
17:17 <wdsmia_w> looks like its time to head home
17:17 <xcamel> drive safe..
17:17 <Romulus> that page has been great help
17:18 <Tank_Master> im already home!
17:18 <Tank_Master> and im glad I could help, Romulus
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17:18 <Tank_Master> Romulus, you hoe you
17:18 <Romulus> I don't have a clue!
17:20 <xcamel> that would be 'ho', unless your gardening..
17:20 <Tank_Master> ho?
17:21 <Tank_Master> oh?
17:21 <Romulus> oh is it like SocialBorg, Tank_Master
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17:27 <Tank_Master> sucks to be her
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17:35 <xcamel> could it have been that she was leaving with the big flat screen too?
17:35 <xcamel> ...without paying...
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17:35 <xcamel> 'lo ElG
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17:38 <Tank_Master> but we wont mention that cus it would make the girl not look so inisont
17:39 <Tank_Master> tipical media slant
17:39 <MTughan> Oh, they would never do that. :P
17:39 <Tank_Master> lol
17:43 <xcamel> the whole bit with tasers and cops makes me crazy...
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17:43 <xcamel> does a cop have to get shot with his gun before one gets issued to him?
17:43 <Tank_Master> yeah, why didnt he just shoot here and be done with it?
17:44 <xcamel> he has to be tazered before he can have on...
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17:44 <xcamel> er one even
17:44 <xcamel> just more liberal bullSh1t
17:45 <wdsmia> Brrrr Its cold out there
17:45 <PovAddict> having to get shot before having a gun sounds like a good idea to me
17:46 * xcamel sets PoV to superignore
17:46 <PovAddict> or better: just don't let anyone own a gun
17:46 <Soul_keeper> bla
17:47 <Soul_keeper> every man, woman, and child should own atleat 1 gun imo
17:47 <xcamel> SA doesn't understand..
17:47 <wdsmia> &weather 50319
17:47 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 8°F / -13°C | Humidity: 67% | Pressure: 30.25in / 1024hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h ; Tonight - Snow in the evening...then snow likely after midnight. Snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches. Total snow accumulation 1 to 3 inches. Low 5 to 10 above. Northeast wind around 10 mph. Chance of snow 90 percent.; Tuesday - Mostly cloudy. High (1 more message)
17:47 <wdsmia> &more
17:47 <Romulus> wdsmia: around 15. North wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tuesday Night - Partly cloudy. Low 5 to 10 above. West wind around 5 mph.;
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17:54 <MTughan> Off to dinner...
17:59 <Tank_Master> dinner?
17:59 <Tank_Master> at 3?
17:59 <Tank_Master> ;)
17:59 <PovAddict> timezones
17:59 <xcamel> btw.. just about every possible weather forecast tool...
17:59 <Romulus> Title: e-WALL : PSU ELECTRONIC MAP WALL (at www.meteo.psu.edu)
17:59 <Tank_Master> gaa
18:00 * Tank_Master twitches from info overload
18:00 <Tank_Master> the numbers...
18:00 <Tank_Master> they are out to get me!
18:01 <xcamel> yeah.. it's a weather orgasm...
18:01 <PovAddict> eww
18:04 <ELGono> good adress for some highres
18:05 <ELGono> engl is better maybe hehe
18:06 <xcamel> thanks for the link..
18:08 <ELGono> btw jay, ps is working
18:08 <ELGono> just got 2,5% difference in voltage on DC rail from 2 different transformers
18:08 <xcamel> great!
18:09 <ELGono> organised a second transformer with same VA rating
18:09 <Romulus> they lost their admin that was that the airport extreme can release it's ip address from the .sh package gives you 36 hours..
18:09 <xcamel> you'll get the variance because the transformers aren't magnetically connected
18:10 <xcamel> technically, and unbalanced ct
18:11 <ELGono> as long as it don't shift while heavy load it shouldn't be such a problem
18:11 <ELGono> can trim that with dc-offset poti
18:15 <xcamel> then you suffer the same voltage drop swinging from side to side, IIRC
18:17 <xcamel> did I hear correctly that Roy Scheider died?
18:17 <wdsmia> yep
18:18 <xcamel> too bad..
18:18 <xcamel> wow - first real druid grave??
18:20 <ELGono> oh dear, roy
18:22 <xcamel> gotta love 'jaws'
18:22 <xcamel> even if you dont...
18:22 <wdsmia> or Blue Thunder
18:23 <xcamel> 'All That Jazz"
18:25 <ELGono> blue thunder was great
18:26 <ELGono> and not to forget: 2010
18:26 * wdsmia always liked coppers with Big guns
18:26 <xcamel> ah yes.. seaquest...
18:30 <xcamel> and all the DeLiuse brothers..
18:30 <ELGono> Marathon Man
18:31 <Romulus> ok, i'll try it out
18:31 <xcamel> forgot about that one..
18:32 <MTughan> Nuts, zombie left... Well, for all the other Mac users, Leopard 10.5.2 is available.
18:33 <xcamel> coming in with autoupdate?
18:33 <PovAddict> should
18:33 <xcamel> you forget I have 3 macs here too..
18:33 <MTughan> I think so. And I didn't know you had any Macs.
18:34 <xcamel> hehehe..
18:34 <MTughan> I notified by automatic update, but it didn't install by itself. Don't remember if I set that or if it's default.
18:34 <MTughan> It does require a restart though.
18:34 <xcamel> power mac and 2 macbook pro's
18:34 <MTughan> Okay, they can be downloaded automatically, but not installed automatically.
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18:41 <wdsmia> Hmm new startrek movie
18:42 <CoderOnTheCouch> young Spock
18:48 <xcamel> they picked a good one for that part..
18:53 <CoderOnTheCouch> according to what I read, I agree
18:54 <CoderOnTheCouch> &weather International Falls, MN
18:54 <Romulus> CoderOnTheCouch: Temperature: -2°F / -19°C | Humidity: 49% | Pressure: 30.44in / 1031hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows 14 below to 19 below zero. South winds around 5 mph. Wind chill readings 20 below to 25 below zero.; Tuesday - Partly sunny in the morning...then cloudy with a 40 percent chance of light snow in the (2 more messages)
18:54 <CoderOnTheCouch> balmy
18:55 <CoderOnTheCouch> &weather 45140
18:56 <Romulus> CoderOnTheCouch: Temperature: 23.0°F / -5.0°C | Humidity: 52% | Pressure: 30.29in / 1025.6hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - A chance of snow early this evening...then snow late this evening. Snow may be heavy at times late. Snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches. Lows in the lower 20s. East winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 100 percent.; Tuesday (2 more messages)
18:56 <CoderOnTheCouch> sweltering
18:56 <CoderOnTheCouch> &more
18:56 <Romulus> CoderOnTheCouch: - Sleet...snow and freezing rain in the morning...then sleet...rain and freezing rain in the afternoon. Precipitation may be heavy at times in the morning. Additional snow and sleet accumulation of 2 to 4 inches. Light ice accumulation. Highs in the lower 30s. East winds 10 to 15 mph...becoming north 5 to 10 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation 100 percent.; Tuesday Night - Cloudy. A (1 more message)
18:56 <MTughan> lol
18:57 <MTughan> We got more snow on Sunday and this morning, and more predicted for tomorrow.
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18:57 <CoderOnTheCouch> snow, then sleet, then snow, then freezing rain, then sleet, then rain, then freezing rain
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18:57 <CoderOnTheCouch> &more
18:57 <MTughan> Ice?
18:57 <Romulus> CoderOnTheCouch: chance of snow in the evening. Lows 15 to 20. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 50 percent.; Winter Storm Warning for Hamilton County in effect until 7:00 PM EST on February 12, 2008;
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18:58 <CoderOnTheCouch> Nic collided with himself
18:58 <MTughan> You got ice?
18:58 <CoderOnTheCouch> PovAddict has disconnected: Nick collision from services.
18:59 <CoderOnTheCouch> not yet, but they are promising some ice =)
18:59 <CoderOnTheCouch> need some?
18:59 <xcamel> I think Chris Pine will do OK too..
18:59 <MTughan> No thanks...
18:59 <MTughan> We've had enough snow to last us two winters already.
18:59 <xcamel> Nic collided while serving ices?
19:00 <CoderOnTheCouch> Chris Pine is Kirk?
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19:01 <MTughan> IRC's just having a bad day...
19:03 <xcamel> yes
19:03 <xcamel> and yes.
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19:08 * CoderOnTheCouch pulls MTughan out of the revolving door
19:09 <MTughan> Talk to the Colloquy devs.
19:09 <MTughan> It's crashed four times today.
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19:13 <KathrynM> laters all. gotta go to that annoying place
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19:21 * CoderOnTheCouch phones Colloquy
19:21 <MTughan> Last crash was XChat.
19:22 * CoderOnTheCouch hangs up
19:22 <xcamel> hmmm..
19:22 <CoderOnTheCouch> you trouble is not in your IRC
19:22 <xcamel> ****WINTER STORM WATCHES HAVE BEEN POSTED FOR ALL AREAS FROM TUESDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON*****
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19:23 <xcamel> gotta love the 'all caps'
19:23 <CoderOnTheCouch> no need to shout?
19:23 <MTughan> No other apps crash. Although the XChat crash was caused by a plugin I had.
19:23 <MTughan> brb
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19:29 <zombie67> Wheeeee!
19:29 <xcamel> zom-bony!
19:29 <zombie67> looke like 10.5.2 update fixed it
19:29 <zombie67> looks
19:29 <MTughan> Fixed what?
19:29 <zombie67> my 80% CPU usage
19:29 <MTughan> Ah... Nice.
19:30 <zombie67> fingers crossed
19:30 <MTughan> Oh, did anyone see today's XKCD?
19:30 <MTughan> &xkcd
19:31 <xcamel> good one..
19:32 <MTughan> "Says the girl who built a self-targeting kilowatt laser on the roof." xD
19:32 <zombie67> heh
19:32 <zombie67> have you seen the guy who uses a trebuchet to fling cadillacs?
19:33 <MTughan> Oh boy... Nope.
19:33 <zombie67> it's impressive
19:33 <MTughan> zombie67: How long do you generally go on your Macs without a restart?
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19:33 <zombie67> I usually only restart when a SW/OS update requires it
19:33 <MTughan> I'm up just over 12h and starting to slow down already...
19:34 <MTughan> May need to do the updates, then clear caches from Onyx and restart...
19:34 <zombie67> I have never noticed a slow down
19:34 <MTughan> I've got 1.75GB of 2GB used...
19:35 <MTughan> And a 61.6GB virtual memory block.
19:35 <Romulus> Title: Car Launching Trebuchet | SplodeTV.com (at splodetv.com)
19:36 <MTughan> I don't know, but it seems Leopard's harder on the memory than Tiger.
19:36 <zombie67> may be
19:36 <zombie67> the flaming pianos are pretty cool
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19:37 <xcamel> something in the last fc7 update slowed down window open
19:38 <MTughan> Awesome!
19:38 <xcamel> either KDE or the nvidia update..
19:39 <xcamel> hmmm.. a kernel update already... that says something...
19:40 <xcamel> 14-64 to 15-80
19:40 <zombie67> what is FileSyncAgent, and why is it taking 100% of a CPU?
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19:43 <MTughan> Oh wow... Last post seems to say something at least.
19:43 <MTughan> Seems FileSyncAgent is making a local copy of your iDisk.
19:43 <zombie67> If I have xcode 3.0, is there any reason to also install 2.5?
19:44 <MTughan> I thought of that at first, but only if you're familiar with Xcode 2.4.
19:44 <MTughan> Otherwise just do Xcode 3.0.
19:44 <Soul_keeper> you people talking apples ?
19:44 <zombie67> I do nothing with them
19:44 <MTughan> Then why are you bothering to install Xcode?
19:44 <zombie67> but occasionally people want me to test out things for them
19:45 <MTughan> Ah, so you need GCC?
19:45 <zombie67> dunno
19:45 <xcamel> need re boots
19:45 <zombie67> you tell me
19:45 <xcamel> brb
19:45 <MTughan> You just need to compile stuff from source then?
19:45 <MTughan> Bye Jay.
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19:50 <zombie67> wow 1.2gb for xcode
19:50 <MTughan> Yep.
19:51 <MTughan> 2.6GB for the GUI apps alone once unpacked.
19:54 <zombie67> man, the dock seems to crash atleast hourly
19:54 <zombie67> the log says: Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
19:54 <zombie67> Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000000
19:55 <MTughan> Bus error?
19:55 <MTughan> Can you get the crash log from Console and pastebin it?
19:57 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Someone - post number 900603 (at www.pastebin.ca)
19:58 <MTughan> Well, I can tell you it crashed trying to get the number of items in an array...
19:58 <MTughan> Do you have any Stacks in your dock?
19:59 <zombie67> I removed my stacks just before the 10.5.2 upgrade. I saw that stacks were causing some people problems
19:59 <MTughan> So no stacks?
20:00 <zombie67> but this crash was after the upgrade, and with no stacks
20:00 <MTughan> So that's not it then...
20:02 <zombie67> in calendar, it used to show the appointment details in a panel off to the right. I cannot find how to display that in leopard. help!
20:02 <MTughan> Sorry, I don't know what it could be. Just that it crashed trying to access an array. Could be a memory issue, with an object getting deallocated before it's done with.
20:02 <MTughan> Calendar?
20:03 <zombie67> iCal
20:03 <MTughan> Double-click?
20:03 <zombie67> nope
20:03 <MTughan> Works for me...
20:03 * CoderOnTheCouch dozes off
20:04 <CoderOnTheCouch> nuf 4 me
20:04 <CoderOnTheCouch> cya
20:04 <MTughan> Bye.
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20:05 <zombie67> I think cmd-I should also word. But no
20:05 <MTughan> Does Ctrl-Click, Get Info work?
20:05 <MTughan> Cmd-I works here too...
20:05 <zombie67> nope
20:05 <MTughan> Is Get Info in the context menu?
20:06 <zombie67> I wonder if 10.5.2 broke it?
20:06 <MTughan> Well, try restarting iCal first...
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20:07 <zombie67> How do I reinstall iCal?
20:07 <MTughan> Restart I said, not reinstall.
20:07 <zombie67> Ding!
20:08 <zombie67> so it is only pop-ups now? No panel on the right, always displayed?
20:08 <MTughan> I didn't know if it always was there before, I never used iCal much.
20:09 <MTughan> Does it work?
20:09 <zombie67> the pop-up now works, thanks
20:09 <MTughan> Good.
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20:11 <xcamel> there... that helped
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20:17 <xcamel> still suffering from "conectile dysfunction" ??
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20:46 <xcamel> ploof..
20:47 <efc> I think they film these car chases at about 15 mph and make it up with tire screeching sound effects
20:49 <xcamel> lol
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21:24 <zombie67> brb
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21:24 <PovAddict> ooh proteins has graphics
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21:34 <efc> O super, a caveman movie
21:39 <xcamel> b-movie channel on satellite..
21:40 <PovAddic1> &ln http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lite/big-picture.html#faq-6.15
21:40 <Romulus> PovAddic1: Error: 503
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21:54 <xcamel> laterz..
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21:54 <Romulus> Is Get Info work?
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22:12 <MTughan> 'lo Tank_Master
22:14 <Tank_Master> hey
22:15 <MTughan> Rommie behaving?
22:16 <Tank_Master> never
22:16 <MTughan> Heh.
22:16 <MTughan> &stfu
22:16 * Romulus shuts up (fingers crossed)
22:16 <Tank_Master> xcamel_away needs to fix it
22:17 * KathrynM is back (gone 03:05:03)
22:19 <zombie67> still not at 100%
22:19 <zombie67> but close
22:19 <Tank_Master> wb km
22:20 <KathrynM> thx
22:20 <KathrynM> lunch time :)
22:20 <MTughan> zombie67: You mean CPU usage?
22:20 <zombie67> 95-98%
22:20 <zombie67> yeah
22:21 <PovAddict> well that's much better
22:21 <Romulus> oh looks like the devil emacs that promises, shells, and email clients
22:21 <MTughan> &sftu
22:21 <zombie67> hi Kathryn
22:21 <Romulus> Wish I knew, MTughan.
22:21 <MTughan> &stfu
22:21 * Romulus shuts up (fingers crossed)
22:21 <MTughan> I need to change that alias or something... Gets old real fast.
22:22 * Tank_Master slaps Romulus around a bit with a large trout
22:22 * MTughan bashes Romulus with a breath taking Acer laptop
22:22 <MTughan> This is rather amusing...
22:23 <Tank_Master> NOT THE LAPTOP!
22:23 <Tank_Master> ITS NOT WORTH WASTING!
22:30 <zombie67> MT: Why is the 64 bit OSX app slower than the 64 bit win app?
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22:32 <MTughan> zombie67: Good question... It shouldn't be.
22:39 <zombie67> it is about the same speed as the 32 bit app
22:40 <MTughan> Hmm, so maybe it's using 32-bit math rather than 64-bit math. I'll have to ask mweltin what flags he uses.
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22:41 <zombie67> I think crunch3r built the 64bit win app
22:41 <MTughan> Hmm... Are we able to get a hold of him?
22:41 <Romulus> Professor: ?Good news, everyone. Several years ago I bought my new mouse.
22:42 <zombie67> crunch3r? no
22:42 <zombie67> TM might know how
22:42 <MTughan> Tank_Master?
22:42 <zombie67> yeah
22:42 <zombie67> he is a team mate
22:42 <MTughan> No, that was to flash him...
22:43 <MTughan> Yeah, I have no 64-bit specific commands for x86_64. The only difference between it and i686 (32-bit) is the -arch flag.
22:43 <MTughan> Fundamentally anyway.
22:44 <Tank_Master> sorry, what?
22:45 <MTughan> Are you able to contact Crunch3r?
22:45 <Tank_Master> I have his e-mail, yes
22:45 <Tank_Master> y?
22:45 <MTughan> I was wondering what he used to build the Win x64 app.
22:45 <zombie67> for tsp
22:45 <MTughan> Compiler and if GCC, what flags he used.
22:45 <MTughan> Yeah, TSP.
22:46 <Tank_Master> He uses the itel compiler
22:46 <MTughan> That kills me...
22:46 <zombie67> is there an intle complier for OSX?
22:46 <zombie67> intel
22:46 <Tank_Master> dunno
22:46 <MTughan> There is, but it's expensive.
22:46 <Tank_Master> he's got an inside mad at intel
22:46 <Tank_Master> man*
22:46 <MTughan> Ah...
22:46 <zombie67> maybe crunch3r has it already?
22:46 <MTughan> He does.
22:47 <Tank_Master> thats how he already has a skulltrail comp
22:47 <zombie67> no, I mean an intel compiler for OSX already
22:47 <Tank_Master> the dual quad with 1.6GHz FSB
22:47 <MTughan> He offered to make special Mac apps for TSP.
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22:49 <zombie67> does he also have access to a leopard intel box, assuming he needs it?
22:50 <MTughan> That I don't know.
22:50 <zombie67> does he need it?
22:50 <MTughan> I believe so. Unless Intel has made a compiler for Tiger that can do it.
22:50 <MTughan> I can't compile Leopard apps from Xcode on Tiger.
22:51 <zombie67> TM: you need to set up a meeting here with MT and Crunch3r
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22:53 <Tank_Master> k
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22:56 <MTughan> Whoa... Apparently compiling a program, telling GCC to make it 64-bit, sets the ints to 32 bits. I think that should be 64 bits...
22:57 <Tank_Master> odd
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22:57 <Tank_Master> and I cant find cruncher's e-mail, must have deleted it on accident
22:57 <Tank_Master> but either I or z can PM him in our team's message board
23:00 <MTughan> All right, well I have one change that we can upload. I just added -m64 to the compilation flags, which forces 64-bit mode. I would think -arch x86_64 would do that, but it might not.
23:03 <MTughan> Yeah, $450 for the Standard Edition of the Intel compiler. I'll accept donations! :P
23:03 <zombie67> is there a trial period?
23:04 <MTughan> I can get a free evaluation, yes.
23:04 <MTughan> Or if I wait 5 months until I'm in university, I can get it for $50...
23:05 <MTughan> 30 day free trial.
23:06 <zombie67> sounds like an opportunity to make some wicked fast apps for 30 days....
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23:08 <zombie67> where's pov?
23:08 <MTughan> F*CKING PIECE OF SH*T IRC CLIENT!!!
23:08 <zombie67> heh
23:08 <MTughan> He left.
23:09 <zombie67> could you build me an app_info file?
23:09 <MTughan> Anyway, what I was going to say: Maybe not wicked fast, but we'll see how it goes.
23:09 <zombie67> please?
23:09 <MTughan> For what?
23:09 <Romulus> (accesses the poll 10,000 times?)
23:09 <zombie67> chess, for my XP64 machines to use the XP32 app
23:09 <MTughan> They should already do that...
23:09 <zombie67> no, their server is too old
23:10 <MTughan> You'll need to get the app first of all.
23:10 <zombie67> I can do that from my 32 bit machines
23:10 <MTughan> And the name off the app?
23:10 <MTughan> of*
23:11 <zombie67> just a sec, let me get all that
23:12 <Tank_Master> cant build your on xml files, z?
23:12 <zombie67> I can never seem to get them to work
23:12 <MTughan> Sure, but does he know the syntax?
23:13 <Tank_Master> its not to had when you use one from a different project
23:13 <Tank_Master> hard
23:17 <efc> You don't want the ints to be 64 bit if they don't need to be..
23:18 <zombie67> okay, there are the following files in the project folder
23:18 <zombie67> chess960_1.26_windows_intelx86.exe
23:18 <zombie67> glaurung_1.2.1_windows_intelx86.exe
23:19 <zombie67> kpk.bin
23:19 <zombie67> stat_chess.png
23:19 <zombie67> stat_icon
23:19 <zombie67> done
23:19 <MTughan> How do I know what Chess runs?
23:19 <zombie67> huh?
23:20 <MTughan> What application is used to crunch the WUs?
23:20 <zombie67> I assume chess960_1.26_windows_intelx86.exe
23:21 <MTughan> So what does glaurung do?
23:21 <zombie67> dunno. mayne one calls on the other?
23:21 <MTughan> Could be. But that'll affect how the app_info is made.
23:21 <zombie67> see! it is never simple!!
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23:24 <zombie67> okay, let me ask on the forums that no one ever uses. ;)
23:24 <Tank_Master> does chess now what 2 subprojects?
23:24 <Tank_Master> have*
23:25 <infinisoft> I think glaurung was the chess engine, chess960 the wrapper?
23:26 <MTughan> All right, I have two TSP apps for x86_64 compiled with the Intel compiler.
23:26 <MTughan> Any idea when mweltin comes? Just about 5:30 in AS.
23:27 <MTughan> Well actually... zombie67, can you test them out first before they're distributed?
23:28 <zombie67> sure!
23:28 <MTughan> You still have the app_info I gave you before?
23:28 <zombie67> yep
23:29 <Romulus> u b doin it rong
23:29 <MTughan> All right, so I'll just zip up the apps.
23:29 <MTughan> Rommie...
23:30 <BiteAbleKat> this new machine is fantastic!
23:30 <Tank_Master> lol
23:30 <MTughan> http://michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org/tsp.zip for zombie67
23:31 <zombie67> gimme a few min. need to finish something and move to another box
23:31 <zombie67> brb
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23:32 <MTughan> All right, plenty of BF WUs ready to go out.
23:32 <Tank_Master> you meen to screw up
23:32 <MTughan> Heh.
23:32 <MTughan> Hopefully not.
23:33 <Tank_Master> :)
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23:34 <MTughan> What timing...
23:34 <mweltin> whats up MTughan
23:34 <Tank_Master> lol
23:34 <Tank_Master> defently
23:34 <MTughan> I just finished recompiling some TSP apps for x86_64 darwin with an eval version of Intel's compiler. zombie should be back soon to test them.
23:34 <mweltin> is everything messed up.
23:34 <Tank_Master> when isnt it?
23:34 <Tank_Master> ;)
23:35 <MTughan> Because apparently they were about the same speed as the 32-bit apps, making me think GCC wasn't doing what I thought it was doing.
23:35 <mweltin> to day I had a scare. to get the image upload thing to work I had to re-compile php
23:35 <mweltin> MTughan, cool, thanks for digging into that.
23:36 <mweltin> I lost my php.ini file, and the one I replaced it with didn't have the
23:36 <MTughan> $450 for the standard version, but if I wait the 5 months until I'm in univ, it's $50. xD
23:36 <mweltin> allow_sort_tag thing working.
23:37 <mweltin> so basicly all pages that used <? and not <?php were broken but nothing showed up in the error logs ro access logs for apache.
23:37 <mweltin> apparently at least the boinc pages use <?php
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23:37 <mweltin> big Z!
23:38 <mweltin> did you see my reply to your post?
23:38 <MTughan> In case you didn't get the link...
23:38 <mweltin> oh I didnt thanks MTughan
23:38 <MTughan> For zombie.
23:38 <mweltin> I'll wait for zombie67 to test it before I post...
23:38 <mweltin> ok
23:38 <mweltin> cool
23:38 <MTughan> Yeah, because I'm not sure if they're any faster.
23:39 <MTughan> They are optimized for Core 2 CPUs though, so that should help.
23:39 <zombie67> hi!
23:39 <Tank_Master> wb
23:39 <zombie67> no
23:39 <zombie67> that is the machine
23:40 <Tank_Master> core2 apps will work on it
23:40 <zombie67> here is a task with the previous app:http://bob.myisland.as/tsp/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4136
23:40 <zombie67> grrr... try this: http://bob.myisland.as/tsp/result.php?resultid=1346077
23:40 <MTughan> Clipboard troubles?
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23:41 <MTughan> 'lo Pov
23:41 <mweltin> PovAddict!!!
23:41 <mweltin> what up buddy!
23:41 <Tank_Master> crap
23:41 <MTughan> In the time you were absent, I got the Intel compiler up.
23:41 <mweltin> long time no see
23:41 <zombie67> getting it up is good
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23:43 <PovAddict> I just joined to maybe-pissoff somebody with a piece of truth :)
23:43 <PovAddict> MTughan knows what I mean
23:44 <Tank_Master> ?
23:44 <MTughan> Do I?
23:44 <MTughan> The PNG XML thing?
23:44 <PovAddict> konf
23:44 <zombie67> Mon Feb 11 20:43:50 2008|traveling salesman problem|Message from server: No work sent
23:44 <zombie67> Mon Feb 11 20:43:50 2008|traveling salesman problem|Message from server: (There was work but not for the applications you have allowed. Please check your settings on the website.)
23:44 <MTughan> zombie67: Odd... You're allowing BF?
23:44 <zombie67> hmmm
23:44 <Tank_Master> what? that the media has been lieing to us all this time? Thats something everyone aught to by now
23:45 <PovAddict> no, it was another channel
23:45 <PovAddict> zombie67: do you have any SPARC?
23:45 <zombie67> good call, I turned it off again for my macs
23:45 <zombie67> nope
23:45 *** mweltin is now known as mw_brb
23:45 <MTughan> zombie67: Note the last part of that message. "Please check your settings on the website."
23:45 <zombie67> got 20
23:45 <MTughan> All right. Shut off new work, let's see how they go.
23:45 <zombie67> yeah, bit I forgot
23:47 <zombie67> 8 tasks running now
23:49 <MTughan> Oops... I think I used the 32-bit compiler yet again... That's what happens when you don't read the docs...
23:49 <zombie67> for reference a 2.4ghz C2D XP64 takes 1538 secs.
23:49 <zombie67> d'oh!
23:50 <MTughan> See how the first 8 go. I'd suspend the rest so we can use a new app if it is 32-bit.
23:50 <zombie67> suspend the rest? Thats 32!
23:50 <zombie67> *this* is why we need your manager!
23:50 <PovAddict> hmm
23:50 <PovAddict> macs don't have boinc_cmd do they?
23:50 <MTughan> Is it on localhost?
23:50 <MTughan> PovAddict: No.
23:51 <zombie67> yeah
23:51 <MTughan> I can give you what I have now to suspend the rest.
23:51 <zombie67> naeay
23:51 <zombie67> naw
23:52 <MTughan> And actually... PovAddict: If the connection is coming from localhost, is the GUI RPC password needed?
23:52 <Tank_Master> yes
23:52 <PovAddict> it's not for read-only mode
23:52 <PovAddict> it is if you want to make changes
23:52 <MTughan> Okay...
23:52 <PovAddict> that is important to avoid local exploits
23:52 <MTughan> So I'd need to get zombie's RPC password if he was to use that anyway.
23:53 <MTughan> I'll make it read the config files at some point.
23:53 <PovAddict> if there is no password, anybody with an account that can connect to local TCP ports could execute code under the user where BOINC runs
23:53 <Tank_Master> ouch
23:53 <MTughan> Well, boinc_cmd doesn't require a password, does it?
23:54 <PovAddict> that includes the "guest" account on WinXP for example, which is supposed to be very low-priviledge
23:54 <PovAddict> MTughan: boinc_cmd reads the config file :)
23:54 <MTughan> So a malicious app could just use boinc_cmd.
23:54 <PovAddict> if it can't find the config file, you need to pass --passwd
23:54 <PovAddict> the idea is that the config file is not world-readable...
23:55 <PovAddict> chmod 600
23:55 <MTughan> I thought it was 660.
23:55 <PovAddict> ah yeah on macs
23:55 <MTughan> boinc_master:boinc_project
23:55 <PovAddict> because macs change the group as well
23:55 <MTughan> Yeah.
23:57 <zombie67> uh, this will take 56 min based on the first 10 min
23:57 <Tank_Master> slow, isnt it?
23:57 <MTughan> &math convert 56 minutes to seconds
23:57 <Romulus> MTughan: 3360
23:58 <MTughan> Twice as long. Sounds like 32-bit.
23:58 *** mw_brb is now known as mweltin
23:58 <MTughan> So you'll just have to let those compute, then replace them with other apps... I'll recompile.
23:58 <zombie67> 32 bit with your first all was about 40 min
23:58 <MTughan> Wow...
23:58 <zombie67> I am fine with aborting.
23:59 <MTughan> Just make sure the others are suspended.
23:59 <MTughan> Or not going to run.
23:59 <zombie67> everything is
23:59 <MTughan> Okay... You'll have to give me 5 minutes or so.
23:59 <PovAddict> Pending credit: 211.90