IRC logs of #boinc for Tuesday, 2008-02-12

00:00 <PovAddict> primegrid

00:00 <zombie67> no rush

00:01 <zombie67> povaddict:  did you really find a prime?  or was it a double check?

00:01 <PovAddict> in my opinion, it doesn't really matter if I was first or second; my computer found it :)

00:01 <PovAddict> but mine was first

00:01 <zombie67> Pending credit: 2,681.10

00:01 <zombie67> nice!

00:01 <PovAddict> on PG?

00:01 <zombie67> you will be in the record books!

00:02 <zombie67> ueah

00:02 <zombie67> yeah

00:02 <zombie67> like I said, I never get primes, and I am a pretty high roller compared to the folks who get them all the time

00:03 <zombie67> brb

00:03 <MTughan>

00:03 <Romulus> <> (at

00:03 <MTughan> Oh, I just got it up...

00:03 <PovAddict> gr8 timing thur

00:03 <MTughan> Yeah...

00:05 <zombie67> back.  had to drain the mule

00:06 <MTughan> I was supposed to be in bed an hour ago, so I hope he really is back quick...

00:06 <MTughan> And AMcBain's back, PovAddict.

00:06 <zombie67> odd.  plain text?

00:06 <MTughan> Plain text?

00:06 <zombie67> file type, yeah

00:07 <MTughan> Shouldn't be.

00:07 <PovAddict> application/octet-stream

00:07 <PovAddict> if it shows as plaintext, your browser is stupid

00:07 <MTughan> Just means the server doesn't know what it is.

00:07 <zombie67> no in browser, in finder

00:07 <MTughan> Don't worry about that.

00:07 <PovAddict> ah well, that kind of properties isn't passed on a download...

00:07 <zombie67> it was with the others

00:08 <PovAddict> FUCK

00:08 <wdsmia> asks PovAddict to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

00:08 <zombie67> I'll fix

00:08 <PovAddict> I tried curl on it

00:08 <PovAddict> with -I switch

00:08 <PovAddict> it said text/html

00:08 <MTughan> text/html?

00:08 <PovAddict> hmm weird... so I tried without the -I switch to see what that HTML was

00:08 <PovAddict> it wasn't

00:08 <MTughan> Uh...

00:08 <PovAddict> printing a mac executable (or any binary for that matter) into a Windows console causes lots of beeping

00:08 <MTughan> lol

00:09 <PovAddict> through the internal speaker, which can't be muted

00:09 <MTughan> And you were just mentioned in Konf.

00:09 <PovAddict> so? I know what he will say of my hit-and-run comment

00:09 <PovAddict> :)

00:09 <Tank_Master> to mute the internal speaker, unplug it from the motherboard

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00:09 <MTughan> Whatever...

00:09 <MTughan> zombie67: Anything yet?

00:11 <zombie67> running now

00:11 <zombie67> 2% = 57 sec

00:11 <MTughan> &math calc 1/.02

00:11 <Romulus> MTughan: 50

00:11 <MTughan> Nuts...

00:11 <PovAddict> picture?

00:11 <zombie67> maybe gets better

00:12 <zombie67> couple min more to 10%

00:12 <PovAddict> zombie67: hmm that was actually an easy fix:

00:12 <Romulus> Title: Changeset 14719 - BOINC - Trac (at

00:12 <PovAddict> fix for the problem Carl was having on QCN

00:12 <zombie67> 5% = 2:22

00:13 <zombie67> heh

00:13 <zombie67> yet they still enforce 1 CPU

00:14 <MTughan> &math calc 2.5 / .05

00:14 <Romulus> MTughan: 50

00:14 <zombie67> almot to 10%

00:14 <MTughan> Is that a coincidence or something?

00:15 <zombie67> 10% = 4:43

00:15 <MTughan> &math calc 4.75 / .1

00:15 <Romulus> MTughan: 47.5

00:15 <zombie67> back to square 1

00:15 <zombie67> hmmm

00:15 <MTughan> Stupid Intel compiler...

00:15 <zombie67> heh

00:15 <Romulus> although when they unplug my mouse

00:15 <zombie67> crunch3r knows some 64 bit tricks

00:15 <MTughan> I could believe that.

00:16 <zombie67> TM, get him on line!

00:16 <mweltin> he loves the icc

00:16 <mweltin> tried to get me to use it.

00:16 <zombie67> icc?

00:16 <MTughan> I did tell it to use 64-bit, so makes it seem that maybe it's missing an opt...

00:16 <mweltin> I downloaded it but never got any farthere.

00:16 <wdsmia> asks mweltin to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

00:16 <mweltin> intel compipler.

00:16 <MTughan> Intel Compiler Collection.

00:16 <Tank_Master> fart

00:16 <wdsmia> asks Tank_Master to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

00:16 <PovAddict> bug in script there

00:16 <Tank_Master> ah

00:16 <mweltin> whats up with wdsmia?

00:16 <PovAddict> farther

00:16 <wdsmia> asks PovAddict to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

00:16 <mweltin> hahaa

00:17 <MTughan> Oh, duh... I'm missing SSEx!

00:17 <mweltin> it see the word f-4-r-t

00:17 <PovAddict> f4rther contains a four-letter word

00:17 <Tank_Master> lol

00:17 <zombie67> From all I have seen on the SETI/who discussions, it is not just the compiler or options, it is the order in which things get done

00:17 <PovAddict> MTughan: ...for x64 and you didn't enable any extended instruction set? lol

00:17 <MTughan> Hmm, or maybe not... "icc: command line warning #10120: overriding '-march=core2' with '-msse3'"

00:17 *** mweltin is now known as mw_dinner

00:18 <MTughan> I think -march=core2 implies -msse3...

00:18 <PovAddict> both TSP apps have lots of potential for optimization by tweaking the code

00:18 <MTughan> There is one more thing I can try...

00:19 <MTughan> -x<codes>  generate specialized code to run exclusively on processors indicated by <codes> as described below

00:19 <zombie67> I think all intel macs will support SSE3.  not sure about SSSE3

00:19 <MTughan> I'm not doing SSSE3.

00:19 <PovAddict> that would work, but then the program wouldn't run at all on other processors

00:19 <MTughan> PovAddict: It's an x86_64 program.

00:19 <zombie67> what othe rprocessors?

00:19 <PovAddict> so...

00:20 <PovAddict> what <codes> do you have for choice?

00:20 <MTughan> T  Intel(R) Core(TM)2 processor family with SSSE3

00:20 <MTughan> That's the one I chose.

00:20 <zombie67> all 64 bit chips will support at least SSE2.  Maybe even SSE3

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00:20 <zombie67> hi wabbit

00:20 <MTughan> All Core CPUs support SSE3.

00:20 <MTughan> P  Intel(R) Core(TM) processor family with Streaming SIMD Extensions 3 (SSE3) instruction support

00:20 <MTughan> O  Intel(R) Core(TM) processor family.  Code is expected to run properly on any processor that supports SSE3, SSE2 and SSE instruction sets

00:21 <MTughan> S  Future Intel processors supporting SSE4 Vectorizing Compiler and Media Accelerator instructions

00:21 <MTughan> Those are the other options.

00:21 <zombie67> so, MT, are we going to try another round?

00:21 <MTughan> Yep...

00:21 <zombie67> k

00:21 <MTughan>

00:21 <Romulus> <> (at

00:22 <Wabbit98> yo yo

00:23 <MTughan> 'lo Wabbit

00:24 <zombie67> should everything be ecaxtly the same bit size?

00:24 <MTughan> What do you mean?

00:25 <zombie67> the last two have both been 327964

00:25 <MTughan> Do you still have the one before?

00:25 <zombie67> no, I replaced

00:26 <MTughan> Hmm, I was gonna get an MD5...

00:26 <zombie67> but I did a ls -la with both to make sure I fixed the properties

00:26 <MTughan> I don't actually know if anything is different.

00:26 <MTughan> Hold on...

00:27 <MTughan> Yeah, good catch. They're the same app.

00:27 <zombie67> heh

00:32 <zombie67> so.....?

00:32 <MTughan> Hmm... PovAddict: "Enables aggressive optimization for code speed. Recommended for code with loops that perform calculations or process large data sets."

00:33 <MTughan> Description for -O3. Should I go with that?

00:33 <PovAddict> try it if it doesn't make it incompatible

00:34 * zombie67 likes aggressive optimization

00:34 *** mw_dinner is now known as mweltin

00:35 * mweltin like passive agressive optimization

00:35 <MTughan> I still think it's running with 32-bit performance though... Do we need to solve this tonight though. I've got to be off to bed.

00:36 <MTughan> I can leave you with the latest build and let you play with it.

00:36 <MTughan>

00:36 <Romulus> <> (at

00:37 <zombie67> MT: I will try it out and let you know.

00:37 <MTughan> Okay, thanks.

00:37 <zombie67> go to bet,no urgency here

00:37 <MTughan> Hmm... Why is an einstein task running as root?

00:37 <mweltin> mmmmmmmm

00:38 <PovAddict> eww

00:38 <zombie67> god bends to his will

00:38 <Tank_Master> so it can have better access to your personal info

00:38 <Tank_Master> what do you think it sends back to the server?

00:39 <MTughan> Physics data.

00:39 <zombie67> different size this time!

00:39 <zombie67> 327940

00:39 <MTughan> I know, I made sure the MD5 was different too.

00:39 <MTughan> Means that the different optimizations did do something.

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00:41 <zombie67> 2% = 0:58

00:41 <MTughan> Same as before...

00:41 <zombie67> yeah

00:41 <MTughan> If this keeps up and Crunch3r can't help, I'm not gonna pony up the money for this.

00:42 <zombie67> cruncch3r will show us the path

00:43 <zombie67> k, I am going to turn my other project back on

00:43 <MTughan> Good idea.

00:43 <efc> you using a vectorizing compiler or something like that?

00:43 <MTughan> I think so.

00:43 <MTughan> It's Intel's compiler.

00:44 <zombie67> also turning off BF for my macs,

00:44 <zombie67> remember that

00:44 <zombie67> ;)

00:44 <mweltin> what?!

00:46 <MTughan> Anyway, see you tomorrow.

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00:47 <zombie67> no worries, still got all my win xp64 machines on BF!

00:48 <zombie67> just not going to task my macs with BF until the app is up to speed

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00:52 <mweltin> ok zombie67 fair enough

00:53 <zombie67> just a few LHC tasks to finish up, and I will he there strong

00:53 <Wabbit98> is there work on any new apps for TSP?

00:53 <zombie67> no

00:53 <mweltin> I just started to re write the GA

00:53 * Wabbit98 cries manly tears

00:53 <mweltin> it will be a little while.

00:53 <mweltin> sorry Wabbit98

00:53 <zombie67> we are TRYING to get a 64 bit OSX app to work

00:54 <Wabbit98> bah 64-bit

00:54 <mweltin> I'm working now, the care free days of TSP all day every day are gone

00:54 <zombie67> no success yet

00:54 <Wabbit98> can't the gf get a job?

00:54 <zombie67> mweltin, jobs are a good thing

00:54 <zombie67> damn straight!

00:54 <zombie67> lazy ho

00:54 <zombie67> kidding

00:54 <Wabbit98> woemn work and men BOINC

00:55 <Tank_Master> lol

00:55 <zombie67> well, men use women TO boinc

00:57 <Wabbit98> at least the MindModeling WU's are working well

00:57 <efc> That application would not load on my system, something about not meeting the project requirements

00:57 <zombie67> wabbit, depends on the OS

00:57 <Tank_Master> thats not yet supported by BAM, right?

00:57 <zombie67> tank_master:  nope

00:57 <zombie67> he asked no to

00:58 <zombie67> he will create a different non-beta site for that

00:58 <Tank_Master> thought so

00:58 <Tank_Master> ahh

00:58 <zombie67> will transfer credits

00:58 <zombie67> brb

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01:01 <zombie67> funny thing

01:01 <zombie67> CPDB beta 2

01:01 <zombie67> CPDN

01:02 <zombie67> I signed all my machines up, many of the WUs may fail over time

01:02 <zombie67> anywho, they have been rock steady, and are worth 9k each WU

01:03 <zombie67> I will end up with 250k when all are done

01:04 <zombie67> which is bigger than all my regular CPDN credits

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01:28 <zombie67> pov!

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01:29 <zombie67> you still awaqke?

01:29 <zombie67> awake

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02:24 <zombie67> can anyone get to AI?

02:27 <Tank_Master> doesnt look like it

02:27 <Tank_Master> but im heading to bed now

02:27 <zombie67> gn

02:27 <zombie67> 8g

02:27 <zombie67> ;)

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04:04 <mweltin_> /nick mweltin

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04:06 <mweltin> hey HEY

04:17 <CoderForLife> morning

04:18 <mweltin> cfl?! you are up early?

04:18 <mweltin> not getting the weather?

04:18 <CoderForLife> about my normal time

04:18 <mweltin> then I have not been working hard enough.

04:18 <CoderForLife> yes - it's snowing

04:19 <CoderForLife> but less than I expected by this time

04:19 <mweltin> it was 87 here today

04:19 <CoderForLife> sorry about your weather =)

04:20 <mweltin> yes, it was hot.

04:20 <mweltin> at least I made it to the beach for a little while.

04:23 <CoderForLife> man - what a distraction from boinc

04:23 <mweltin> no real life took care of that, tsp is my baby and I'm not paying enough attention to it.

04:24 <mweltin> I got a contract with the department of health.

04:24 <mweltin> keeping me busy.

04:24 <CoderForLife> did you contract a disease?

04:25 <mweltin> worse a web site.

04:25 <CoderForLife> ack

04:25 <CoderForLife> there's no known cure

04:25 <mweltin> best case, charge a lot, and get it over with as soon as possible.

04:26 <CoderForLife> that makes you a doctor

04:27 <mweltin> yeah, with the noteable exception that my client can die, and I don't go up against a review board.

04:27 <CoderForLife> if you would prolong it as long as possible, you'd be a lawyer

04:28 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

04:28 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 21.9°F / -5.6°C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 30.06in / 1017.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Snow. Snow may be heavy at times after midnight. Snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches. Ice accumulation of less than one quarter of an inch. Lows in the lower 20s. East winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 100 percent.; Tuesday (2 more messages)

04:28 <CoderForLife> &more

04:28 <Romulus> CoderForLife: - Sleet...snow and freezing rain in the morning...then sleet...rain and freezing rain in the afternoon. Precipitation may be heavy at times in the morning. Additional snow and sleet accumulation of 2 to 4 inches. Light ice accumulation. Highs in the lower 30s. East winds 10 to 15 mph...becoming north 5 to 10 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation 100 percent.; Tuesday Night - Cloudy. A (1 more message)

04:29 <CoderForLife> &more

04:29 <Romulus> CoderForLife: chance of snow in the evening. Lows 15 to 20. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 50 percent.; Winter Storm Warning for Hamilton County in effect until 7:00 PM EST on February 12, 2008;

04:32 <mweltin> sleet ! ahahahahahaha

04:36 * CoderForLife aims his giant deflection dish towards American Samoa

04:37 <mweltin> good luck with that

04:38 * CoderForLife warms up the capacitor banks, and watches as the banks of tubes begin to glow

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04:40 <mweltin> what are you going to do make it hotter?

04:40 <mweltin> tank!

04:42 <CoderForLife> brb  breakfast

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04:51 <CoderForLife> now it's *really* snowing

04:55 <clusty> ahoy

04:57 <clusty> any1 has a clue how can I kill a running process in windows?

04:57 <clusty> and how can i run a command?

04:57 <clusty> all from C?

04:57 <mweltin> clusty

04:57 <Romulus> i think jay needs to build boinc with the mower

04:57 <clusty> god i hate windows

04:57 <mweltin> system call in C

04:58 <mweltin> and ctrl-alt-del will bring up a task manager.

04:58 <clusty> works with vial C?

04:58 <clusty> lool

04:58 <mweltin> from there you can kill a process.

04:58 <clusty> hell no

04:58 <clusty> :D

04:58 <clusty> working on autoupdater

04:58 <clusty> i need to kill the client

04:58 <mweltin> autoupdater for what?

04:59 <clusty> boinc client

04:59 <mweltin> I don't understand what you are asking

04:59 <clusty> write a C program that kills a running process

04:59 <mweltin> you want to kill the boinc client from within the clinet ?

04:59 <clusty> in windows

04:59 <clusty> no

04:59 <clusty> updater

05:00 <mweltin> mmmmmmm, yeah you got me.

05:00 <mweltin> I don't know.

05:00 <mweltin> sorry

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05:01 <mweltin> windows sucks but Im sure there is a way to do it.

05:02 <clusty> there;s a will there's a way

05:02 <mweltin>

05:02 <Romulus> <$i> (at

05:03 <clusty> cute

05:03 <clusty> thanks amigo

05:04 <mweltin> it was next to the least I could do.

05:23 <FreeLarry58> clusty you could kill a process from windows task manager

05:28 <FreeLarry58> oops sorry should have read further back

05:28 <clusty> :D

05:28 <clusty> any place where ppl help out windows noob

05:28 <clusty> s

05:28 <clusty> ?

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05:28 <clusty> like #gcc on freenode

05:28 <clusty> i mean #c

05:29 <clusty> those guys are gonna lynch me if i tell them i need help with VC++

05:29 <FreeLarry58> lol lots of places actually - i just never seem to be able to find them

05:32 <FreeLarry58> maybe here -

05:32 <Romulus> Title: The OSSwin project: Open Source for Windows! (at

05:38 <mweltin> yeah the #C guys are a little rough on the newbies.

05:39 <CoderForLife> that's what I love about IRC - they will only offer real support if you can prove that you know more than them

05:40 <clusty> lool

05:40 <clusty> not that bad

05:40 <mweltin> just stroke their ego's and they will give you what you want.

05:40 <clusty> sounds dirty

05:40 <clusty> :d

05:41 <CoderForLife> Dear Geek - would you please stoop to answer a silly question from a lowly worm?

05:41 <FreeLarry58>

05:41 <Romulus> Title: GCC, the GNU Compiler Collection - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF) (at

05:41 <clusty> how are you guys with regexps :D

05:41 <mweltin> more or less, but you hvae to lay it on thicker than that.

05:42 <CoderForLife> (ok)*

05:42 <clusty> how can you write something that matches: sshd && !(cron)

05:42 * FreeLarry58 tries to hold hands away from throat at mere thought of register

05:42 <clusty> :D

05:42 <CoderForLife> regex, FreeLarry58

05:42 <CoderForLife> regular expressions

05:42 <Romulus> do you mean "me, WCG user"

05:43 <clusty> grrrrrrrrr

05:43 <FreeLarry58> ohh was having nightmares about register editor

05:43 <clusty> lool

05:43 * FreeLarry58 looks for heart to put back into chest

05:43 <clusty> been learnign to do minor things

05:43 <clusty> like put uninstall info

05:44 <clusty> not as bad

05:44 <clusty> but i imagine its documented badly

05:44 <FreeLarry58> still way past me

05:44 * CoderForLife accidentally steps on FL's heart

05:44 <clusty> squishhh

05:44 <clusty> :D

05:44 * CoderForLife picks it up, dusts it off

05:44 * CoderForLife hands it back to FL

05:45 <CoderForLife> at least I didn't break it, as some have done

05:45 <FreeLarry58>

05:45 <Romulus> Title: UPX: the Ultimate Packer for eXecutables - Homepage (at

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05:46 <clusty> yeah

05:46 <FreeLarry58> lol - CoderForLife -- its still as flat as every

05:46 <FreeLarry58> ever

05:46 <clusty> upx is cool

05:46 <clusty> upx uses lzma algo

05:46 <clusty> i got some easy to use lzw code

05:46 <clusty> not worth the improovement

05:47 <CoderForLife> lzw is patented

05:47 <CoderForLife> be careful if you use it

05:47 <CoderForLife> Unisys does prosecute

05:47 <FreeLarry58> reason i picked that link as gpl

05:48 <clusty> dont think so

05:48 <clusty> think lzw patent expired 2 years ago

05:48 <CoderForLife> I dunno

05:49 <CoderForLife> I had to get off of LZW awhile back

05:50 <CoderForLife> If only Terry Welch had not worked for Unisys

05:50 * KathrynM is back (gone 06:57:49)

05:50 <KathrynM> evenin' all

05:50 <mweltin> KathrynM, our favorite sys admin

05:50 <mweltin> how are you

05:50 <clusty>

05:50 <Romulus> <> (at

05:50 <clusty> lool

05:50 <clusty> :D

05:50 <KathrynM> lol mweltin

05:50 <CoderForLife> But of course, that's why we have the PNG format now, and moving away from GIF

05:50 <KathrynM> I just got home from work.

05:51 <clusty> gif guys should drop dead as far as I am concerned

05:51 <mweltin> time for dinner then I guess

05:51 <KathrynM> I got off at 5:10.  I've been doing prep work for the last 2+ hours

05:51 <clusty> dunno i have a hatred towards ppl patenting stuff

05:51 <KathrynM> in the toaster oven

05:52 <CoderForLife> I rarely take my legal advice from a discussion group

05:52 <KathrynM>

05:52 <Romulus> Title: ksmarkspsych - Bread (at

05:52 <KathrynM> That's what I spent the last two hours doing :/

05:52 <mweltin> looks nice

05:52 <mweltin> do you do design work on the side?

05:52 <KathrynM> I'm exhausted

05:53 <KathrynM> me?

05:53 <KathrynM> no way

05:53 <CoderForLife> I guess if you want to know about Bread, that's the place to go

05:53 <KathrynM> don't even get me started on these stupid projects

05:54 <CoderForLife> "who will help me make the Bread site?"

05:54 <KathrynM> lol

05:54 <CoderForLife> "not I, said the Coder"

05:54 <KathrynM> I just threw them up there for my boss to download.

05:54 <KathrynM> I wasn't in the mood to give her instructions on how to open a zip archive.

05:54 * CoderForLife wonders about KM's boss

05:55 <KathrynM> Have you heard about the state of the computers at the school?

05:55 <KathrynM> I refuse to plug a flash drive into them.

05:55 <FreeLarry58> &nn all late friday for me here

05:55 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

05:55 <KathrynM> Not after I cleaned off dozens of viruses/trojans/etc

05:55 <CoderForLife> cya FL

05:56 * FreeLarry58 wonders - korean - so must be past the 80286 phase by now

05:56 <KathrynM> night FreeLarry58

05:56 <KathrynM> they're not bad computers

05:56 <KathrynM> a P4 HT 3.0

05:56 <mweltin> hahah, I feel sorryfor you now KathrynM

05:56 <KathrynM> And some AMD 64 x2

05:56 <KathrynM> but out of date AV subscritpion.

05:57 <KathrynM> not updated to SP2 (or SP1 for that matter)

05:57 * FreeLarry58 was only joking - knows they are close to cutting edge much sooner than i am

05:57 <KathrynM> every body except me uses IE and downloads anything and everything

05:57 * CoderForLife goes to look at the driveway, so see if it needs to be cleaned off before leaving for w@#%

05:57 <CoderForLife> laterzzz

05:57 <mweltin> avg is free how coudl they be out of date.

05:57 <KathrynM> laters

05:57 <KathrynM> They have some Korean thing.

05:57 <desti> sound like they have loaded a wrong operating system :p

05:57 <KathrynM> There are days when I've taken in one of my LiveCDs and used that.

05:58 <mweltin> nice

05:58 <FreeLarry58> M$ has different os's for different countires

05:58 <KathrynM> yeah, it's the Korean version of XP

05:58 <KathrynM> I bought a new computer over xmas and it came with Vista-Korean installed.

05:59 <KathrynM> Vista is a pain in your native language.  It's horrible in one you don't speak or read.

05:59 <FreeLarry58> blah

05:59 <KathrynM> I put XP Pro on there really fast.

05:59 <KathrynM> I'm still looking for a Linux distro that'll play nice with the graphics card in the dumb thing.

05:59 <mweltin> what card is on there.

05:59 <KathrynM> some ATI.

05:59 <KathrynM> I'd have to run dxdiag to find out for sure

05:59 <mweltin> I had tons for trouble wthe a radeon card

06:00 <FreeLarry58> humm tried f8 x86_64 yet KathrynM

06:00 <KathrynM> Not sure.

06:00 <KathrynM> I've probably downloaded and burned it.  But not had a chance to try it.

06:00 <KathrynM> It's an intel core 2 duo.

06:01 <FreeLarry58> got it on 2 machines here one a C2D and a C2Q

06:01 <clusty> KathrynM, may i suggest ubuntu as linux

06:01 <mweltin> lspci

06:01 <clusty> works fine with all sorts if weird hadrware

06:01 <KathrynM> not crazy about *buntu

06:01 <mweltin> screw umbunto

06:01 <KathrynM> I started with ubuntu.

06:01 <KathrynM> I detest gnome

06:01 <clusty> xubuntu?

06:01 <clusty> xfce

06:02 <clusty> or kubuntu with kde

06:02 <clusty> which one you use?\

06:02 <KathrynM> I have the x86 version of kubuntu gutsy I think and it wouldn't intstall.

06:02 <mweltin> slackware is nice, it has a wonderful command line interface

06:02 <FreeLarry58>

06:02 <Romulus> <> (at

06:03 <KathrynM> wow.

06:03 <FreeLarry58>

06:03 <KathrynM> nice

06:03 <Romulus> <> (at

06:03 <KathrynM> wanna send me one?

06:03 <KathrynM> I'll give it a good home

06:04 <mweltin> KathrynM, me?  Sure I'll send you a copy of slackware.

06:04 <FreeLarry58> yeah - the quad is because the wife/daughter burned up a mb by shutting my room up

06:04 <KathrynM> nah...  FreeLarry58 's quad

06:04 <mweltin> oh

06:04 <wdsmia_> mornin all

06:04 <KathrynM> slackware is debian based?

06:04 <FreeLarry58> it only ran me 450 for the upgrade

06:04 <KathrynM> mornin wdsmia_

06:04 <FreeLarry58> morning wd

06:04 <mweltin> hahaahaahah wife/daughter are you from mississippi?

06:05 <clusty> slackware is a linux of its own

06:05 <clusty> from the dawn of time :D

06:05 <FreeLarry58> wdsmia_ - remember the tab key next time larry

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06:05 <KathrynM> ahhhh

06:05 <KathrynM> I'll have to look into it.

06:05 <KathrynM> what else is red hat based besides fedora?

06:05 <clusty> i fell in love with bsd's

06:05 <FreeLarry58> lol not quite but close -- cant get either of them to admit who shut the door to the comp room

06:06 <clusty> but they are strange beasts

06:06 <mweltin> its kind of stripped down I like it.

06:06 <clusty> FreeLarry58, i get it

06:06 <mweltin> well at lest its two people, I was concerned for a while.

06:06 <clusty> FreeLarry58, mom/grannie burned my sat receiver

06:06 <clusty> :D

06:07 <clusty> ages ago

06:07 <clusty> bumped antenna and fried stuff with midday's sun

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06:21 <hawmps> 'lo

06:21 <MTughan> Hey Jay.

06:21 <MTughan> Just about off for school...

06:21 <mweltin> MTughan, you are up late

06:22 <MTughan> No, I'm up early.

06:22 <mweltin> oh

06:22 <mweltin> mmmmmmm

06:22 <MTughan> Little thing at school called Concert Band. Meets about an hour before school starts every Tuesday and Thursday.

06:23 <MTughan> Anyway, I really should be off. See you later.

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06:23 <mweltin> your in band?

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06:36 <wdsmia> &weather 50319

06:36 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 7°F / -14°C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h ; Early This Morning - Snow. Northeast wind around 5 mph. Chance of snow 80 percent.; Today - Cloudy. Snow in the morning...then occasional flurries late in the morning. Snow accumulation up to 1 inch. High around 15. North wind near 10 mph. (1 more message)

06:36 <wdsmia> &more

06:36 <Romulus> wdsmia: Chance of snow 80 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low 5 to 10 above. West wind around 5 mph.;

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08:39 <KathrynM> clusty, for your viewing pleasure :)

08:39 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Running "sudo rm -rf /" (at

08:42 <clusty> KathrynM, funny

08:43 <KathrynM> Eric Myers sent it to me.

08:43 <clusty> KathrynM, less distructive than seeing if a 10k USD nikon camera can take a dive in the concrete from 10m

08:43 <clusty> :D

08:43 <KathrynM> ohh

08:43 <Romulus> is back to the boinc benchmark malfunctions on systems with a core_release_6_7_1

08:43 <KathrynM> sure rommie.  whatever you say

08:44 <clusty> the funny part in that video is the cuddly kill-me-not kitty

08:44 <KathrynM> lol

08:44 <KathrynM> I liked the cat :)

08:44 <clusty> with wattery eyes and stuff

08:44 <clusty> do you know a comedian called stephen lynch?

08:44 <KathrynM> name sounds familar

08:45 <clusty> he has funny songs

08:45 <clusty> one of which goes like: 'cause i quote form the bible

08:45 <clusty> and that's where its written

08:45 <clusty> if you loveth jesus you must kill a kitten

08:45 <clusty> :D

08:46 <clusty> he does mostly politically incorect humor

08:46 <KathrynM> sometimes the best sort of humor :D

08:47 <clusty> i personally prefer racial and religious humor :D

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09:02 <hawmps> here comes another snow storm..

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09:18 <KathrynM> &weather Ulsan

09:18 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 39°F / 4°C | Humidity: 31% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 12:00 PM KST; Clear. High:33 ° F. / 1 ° C.; Clear. Low:26 ° F. / -3 ° C.; Clear. High:35 ° F. / 2 ° C.; Clear. Low:28 ° F. / -2 ° C.; Clear. High:41 ° F. / 5 ° C.; Clear. Low:33 ° F. / 1 ° C.;

09:18 <KathrynM> night all

09:18 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

09:29 <wdsmia_w> snowing good now Hugh flakes

09:31 <hawmps> &weather 12074

09:31 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 10.9°F / -11.7°C | Humidity: 65% | Pressure: 30.47in / 1031.7hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny this morning...then mostly cloudy with a chance of snow this afternoon. Highs in the lower 20s. Northwest winds around 5 mph...becoming south this afternoon. Chance of snow 50 percent.; Tonight - Snow. Sleet after midnight. (2 more messages)

09:31 <hawmps> &more

09:31 <Romulus> hawmps: Total snow accumulation of 5 to 10 inches. Lows around 20. Temperature rising into the mid 20s after midnight. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Wednesday - Freezing rain and sleet in the morning...then sleet... freezing rain and rain likely in the afternoon. Ice accumulation of up to one tenth of an inch. Highs in the lower 30s. Southeast winds around 5 (1 more message)

09:31 <hawmps> &more

09:31 <Romulus> hawmps: mph...becoming north in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Winter Storm Warning for Saratoga County in effect until 5:00 PM EST on February 13, 2008;

09:32 <hawmps> woo-pee-doo

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09:33 * wdsmia_w wonders if you can train Llamas to pull a sled?

09:34 <Romulus> I get that script from there.

09:35 <PovAddict> wdsmia: you need to fix your curse script

09:35 <PovAddict> the word 'farther' trips it

09:35 <wdsmia> asks PovAddict to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

09:37 <wdsmia_w> life and scripts are not allways fair... get over it :P

09:38 <hawmps> touche.

10:01 <hawmps> this is gonna leave a mark...

10:01 <hawmps>

10:01 <Romulus> <> (at

10:05 <Tank_Master> ouch

10:05 <Tank_Master> never liked the guy anyway

10:06 <Tank_Master> media sure loves him though

10:06 <hawmps> one communist mass murderer on the flag of a communist mass murderer... nice decor.

10:06 <hawmps> 'double obammy'

10:07 <Tank_Master> he's just a dummycrap anyway

10:08 <hawmps> and an empty suit..

10:09 <Tank_Master> and an empty head

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10:29 <Tank_Master> today is update tuesday for MS, right?

10:38 <hawmps> think so..

10:39 <Romulus> (what does daft mean?) :)

10:39 <Tank_Master> fin times!

10:39 <Tank_Master> 12 updates comming out today

10:58 <Soul_keeper> lol

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11:15 <PovAddict>

11:15 <Romulus> <> (at

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11:39 <Romulus> New news from boinc: BOINC news Feb 12, 2008

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12:38 <hawmps> PoV and "conectile dysfunction" again..

12:39 <wdsmia_w> still

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13:38 <hawmps> repete up and running - FC8 86/64

13:40 <wdsmia_w> isnt that re-repeet?

13:41 <wdsmia_w> err pete

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14:06 <hawmps> re-re-retarded-repete

14:06 <hawmps> seti is down though, and the qmc units all crapped out.

14:21 <hawmps> going to let it run 24 hrs then crank up the speed a bit..

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14:44 <hawmps> woohoo

14:45 <hawmps> benchmark - 2624/7448 each core

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15:17 <spawny> hi

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15:20 <spawny> I still don't see all my accounts in my preferences, I've see more than yesterday, I'm trying to change the emails adress to put the same in all my accounts, but for example ufluids tell me another account use this mail adress, how can I tell him this account and this adresse are also at me?

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15:59 <xcamel>

15:59 <Romulus> <> (at

16:00 <xcamel> Tiny Pterodactyl Fossil Found

16:01 <Soul_keeper> no pictures !?!?!

16:04 <FreeLarry58> kernal updates for werewolf again

16:04 <xcamel> how to I fix it when the any given project doesn't pick up the hostname of a particular box?

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16:07 <xcamel> just a bit odd..

16:08 <xcamel> Measured floating point speed2624 million ops/sec

16:08 <xcamel> Measured integer speed7448.35 million ops/sec

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16:11 <FreeLarry58> don't know xcamel - got one project that does that to me also for the dual core

16:11 <xcamel> this is on the second quad..

16:11 <xcamel> 'repete'

16:12 <FreeLarry58> for my quad Measured floating point speed 2210.54 million ops/sec

16:12 <FreeLarry58> Measured integer speed 6632.69 million ops/sec

16:13 <FreeLarry58> but then i run a lot of garbage also

16:13 <xcamel> both are running at 2.7G

16:13 <FreeLarry58> ahh oc'ed

16:14 <FreeLarry58> think mine at 2.4

16:14 <xcamel> slightly

16:15 <Soul_keeper>        lol the consitution now protects internet trolls ...

16:15 <Romulus> <> (at

16:15 <xcamel> mike or nic will know how to fix it..

16:15 <xcamel> yup... saw that..

16:15 <FreeLarry58> but for name i had to edit my internet equipment

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16:23 <xcamel> hey mike..

16:23 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

16:23 <xcamel> question..

16:23 <MTughan> Fire.

16:23 * PovAddic1 shoots MTughan in the head

16:23 <xcamel> how to I fix it when the any given project doesn't pick up the hostname of a particular box?

16:28 <xcamel> er not..

16:29 <wdsmia_w> Jay send it to me I'll fix it for you and ship it back... I promise

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16:30 <PovAddic1> suuure

16:30 <wdsmia_w> may take a few months :)

16:33 <xcamel> 1-800-bite-me

16:33 <MTughan> lol

16:33 <xcamel> :-)

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16:34 <yoyo_RKN> lot of povaddicts here

16:35 <PovAddic2> I'll kill them

16:35 <MTughan> 'lo yoyo

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16:35 <MTughan> PovAddic1?

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16:35 <MTughan> There we go...

16:36 <xcamel> any ideas on the no-hostname problem?

16:36 <MTughan> Not even sure if I understand what's going on...

16:36 <yoyo_RKN> time to sleep, bye

16:37 <bia_> bye yoyo

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16:37 <xcamel> when I attached 'repete' it didn't pick up the hostname in the projects..

16:37 <MTughan> Is there a problem there?

16:37 <xcamel>

16:37 <Romulus> <> (at

16:38 <MTughan> And I can't see the hostname.

16:38 <xcamel> probably not, but having the hostname in there is preferable

16:43 <FreeLarry58> humm xcamel had to edit acct_mgr_request.xml domain name to get the machine name to update

16:46 <xcamel> checking

16:46 <PovAddict> xcamel doesn't use an account manager afaik so he won't have that file

16:46 <xcamel> no such file..

16:47 <FreeLarry58> looks like i still need to find some more areas to edit to

16:47 <xcamel> jinx..

16:49 <xcamel> client_state domain name?

16:49 <PovAddict> I think it's there yeah

16:50 <MTughan> Yes, domain name is in client_state.xml.

16:50 <MTughan> 4th line here.

16:50 <xcamel> don't think the change will stick though..

16:50 <MTughan> Shut down BOINC and then edit it.

16:50 <xcamel> that file gets modded quite often

16:51 <xcamel> ah..

16:51 <xcamel> wondering about how to restart it remotely though..

16:52 <xcamel> run_manager good for remote start and continue to run after exit?

16:53 <PovAddict> run_manager won't work well remotely... use run_client --daemon

16:53 * xcamel hates that..

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16:56 <FreeLarry58> client state xml also has domain name for editing

16:56 <xcamel> running... we'll check it later

16:57 <xcamel> see if it picks up the hostname

16:57 <xcamel> thanks

17:00 <xcamel> SCHNOOOO!!

17:02 <xcamel> I know it was doing ACB's in about 25 minutes right out of the box..

17:05 <xcamel> &weather 12074

17:05 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 15.4°F / -9.2°C | Humidity: 75% | Pressure: 30.38in / 1028.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Tonight - Snow this evening...then snow and sleet after midnight. Snow may be heavy at times this evening. Snow and sleet accumulation of 3 to 6 inches. Lows in the lower 20s. Temperature rising to around 30 after midnight. Southeast winds 10 (2 more messages)

17:05 <xcamel> &more

17:05 <Romulus> xcamel: to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Wednesday - Sleet...freezing rain and rain in the morning...then rain and sleet likely in the afternoon. Precipitation may be heavy at times. Total accumulation of 4 to 8 inches. Ice accumulation around one quarter of an inch. Highs in the mid 30s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming west in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation near 100 (1 more message)

17:05 <xcamel> &more

17:05 <Romulus> xcamel: percent.; Wednesday Night - Mostly cloudy in the evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Lows around 20. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; Winter Storm Warning for Saratoga County in effect until 5:00 PM EST on February 13, 2008;

17:05 <xcamel> blah..

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17:08 <FreeLarry58> dang the editing didn't take

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17:19 <Tank_Master_> lol

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17:22 <Romulus> New news from boincstats: 2008-02-12: BAM! - Pimp your signature!

17:25 <wdsmia_w> bbl

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17:33 <xcamel> snowing fairly hard now..

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17:34 <CoderForLife> hello

17:35 <CoderForLife> we got an inch of snow overnight, and sleet, freezing rain, rain all day

17:35 <CoderForLife> everything is a sloppy white ice mess

17:35 <Tank_Master> that all?

17:35 <Tank_Master> sounds fun!

17:35 <CoderForLife> it'll all freeze solid tonight

17:35 <Romulus> I can't check the messages page, near the end of the current source, but i'm bleeding edge :)

17:36 <CoderForLife> rather than clean the driveway to yield a smooth sheet of ice, I'm going to leave the stuff, to provide "traction"

17:36 <Tank_Master> I hope you bleed to death

17:37 <PovAddict> how nice of you, Tank_Master

17:37 <CoderForLife> who? Rommie?

17:37 <Tank_Master> ya

17:37 <CoderForLife> ah

17:39 <Romulus> winds up to boot Tank_Master

17:40 <Tank_Master> heh

17:40 <Tank_Master> you can hurt a fly

17:40 <Tank_Master> cant*

17:40 * CoderForLife is still working on the slack cut for him by Tank_Master

17:40 <Tank_Master> you bag of bits

17:41 <Tank_Master> hehe

17:41 * Tank_Master makes sure the excess slack is still put away

17:42 <CoderForLife> this man is obviously confused and needs remedial education in civics:

17:42 <Romulus> <> (at

17:42 <Tank_Master>

17:42 <Romulus> <> (at

17:43 <Tank_Master> the showdown begins...

17:44 * CoderForLife seeks the couch

17:44 <CoderForLife> cya later

17:45 <Tank_Master> hf!

17:45 <PovAddict> &math calc 32768 * 4 / 3

17:45 <Romulus> PovAddict: 43690.6666667

17:45 <PovAddict> &math calc 32768 * 3 / 4

17:45 <Romulus> PovAddict: 24576

17:47 <PovAddict> that was a bit too much

17:47 <PovAddict> &google calc 32768 * 24576 * 3 bytes

17:47 <Romulus> PovAddict: 32,768 * 24,576 * (3 bytes) = 2.25 gigabytes

17:47 <PovAddict> lol

17:47 <PovAddict> &math calc 4096 * 3 / 4

17:47 <Romulus> PovAddict: 3072

17:48 <Tank_Master> &math PovAddic1

17:48 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)

17:48 <Tank_Master> lol

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17:55 <MTughan> bbl

17:56 <wdsmia> &weather 50319

17:56 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 14°F / -10°C | Humidity: 67% | Pressure: 30.07in / 1018hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low near zero. West wind near 5 mph.; Wednesday - Partly sunny. Not as cold. High in the upper 20s. South wind near 10 mph.; Wednesday Night - Partly cloudy early in the evening then becoming cloudy. A slight chance of (1 more message)

17:56 <wdsmia> &more

17:56 <Romulus> wdsmia: snow and patchy freezing drizzle after midnight. Not as cold. Low 15 to 20. South wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 20 percent.;

18:08 <xcamel> seti back up yet?

18:08 <Tank_Master> is it ever?

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18:09 <xcamel> no comment

18:09 <Tank_Master> lol

18:16 <xcamel> got it to attach...

18:16 <xcamel> remotely even..

18:16 * xcamel pats self on back..

18:17 <Tank_Master> nice

18:17 <wdsmia> congrats

18:17 <Tank_Master> took you long enough

18:17 <Tank_Master> ;)

18:17 <wdsmia> lol

18:17 <Tank_Master> can can you please get rommie to stop randomely saying things?

18:18 <xcamel> um... no.

18:18 <PovAddict> brings fun to the channel

18:18 <PovAddict> and makes sure there's no sanity

18:18 <xcamel> no sanity clause

18:19 * KathrynM is back (gone 09:00:48)

18:19 <PovAddict> speaking about no sanity

18:19 <KathrynM> why would we want sanity here?

18:19 <PovAddict> wb

18:19 <KathrynM> mornin'

18:19 <KathrynM> &weather ulsan

18:19 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 18°F / -8°C | Humidity: 24% | Pressure: 30.26in / 1025hPa | Conditions: | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 2mph / 4km/h | Updated: 6:00 AM KST; Clear. High:35 ° F. / 2 ° C.; Clear. Low:24 ° F. / -4 ° C.; Clear. High:37 ° F. / 3 ° C.; Clear. Low:24 ° F. / -4 ° C.; Clear. High:41 ° F. / 5 ° C.; Clear. Low:30 ° F. / -1 ° C.;

18:19 <Tank_Master> as long as pov is here, there wont be any

18:19 <Tank_Master> :)

18:20 <KathrynM> at least it ain't snowin

18:20 <Tank_Master> you make that sound like its a good thing...

18:21 <xcamel> ain't loungin on the beach either...

18:21 <KathrynM> I"m just glad I don't have to supervise recess today :)

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18:27 <Jacroe> What's the purpose of credits?

18:27 <PovAddict> bragging

18:28 <Jacroe> ah ok

18:28 <Jacroe> thanks

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18:28 <PovAddict> that was a quick one :)

18:28 <Romulus> waves around japanese newspaper

18:28 <KathrynM> what?  you mean I can't buy a toaster with them?

18:28 <PovAddict> hmm maybe you can

18:28 * KathrynM waves around a very large very strong magnet near rommie's hard drives

18:29 <PovAddict> getting serious, I saw a website about an interesting idea

18:29 <PovAddict> some kind of e-money, backed by flops

18:29 <PovAddict> (normal money is backed by gold, isn't it?)

18:29 <KathrynM> yeah, I think so

18:29 <PovAddict> and there was some online game accepting payments with it

18:29 <PovAddict> I never found it again

18:31 <xcamel> I think boinc credits should be e-money

18:31 <PovAddict> the idea is interesting

18:32 <PovAddict> why would somebody accept payments with it? -> because then he could pay with it as well, to other people/websites/stuff also accepting it

18:32 <xcamel> but the credit system has to change..

18:35 <xcamel> well.. the hardware vendors would offer a percent off for every 10,000 credits or so to purchase their a$$ kickin number crunchin stuff to "up yer credits"

18:35 <PovAddict> hey, you're right! hardware vendors should be the first...

18:35 <xcamel> It could be a gold mine for them...

18:35 <xcamel> BUT - and it's a big BUT...

18:36 <xcamel> credits issued can not be 'normalized'

18:36 <xcamel> you gotz da box, you getz da big credits...

18:37 <xcamel> I also found a great metaphor for my reasoning..

18:42 <xcamel> Romulus, learn Katz! as

18:42 <Romulus> xcamel: The operation succeeded.

18:42 <xcamel> &Katz!

18:42 <Romulus> xcamel: "Katz!" could be

18:42 <FreeLarry58> grrr here i thought i was getting things done right for remote start on new machine and i get permission denied

18:43 <FreeLarry58> oh teacher PovAddict could you look at .103 and see what i did wrong

18:44 <FreeLarry58> [boinc@myhome123 BOINC]$ ./start

18:44 <FreeLarry58> -bash: ./start: Permission denied

18:45 <PovAddict> do I even have an account there?

18:45 <FreeLarry58> yup you do

18:46 <PovAddict> /msg me the password

18:46 <FreeLarry58> same

18:46 <PovAddict> same as what?

18:46 <FreeLarry58> side

18:50 <KathrynM> woo hoo!  pay day today!  off to earn my won.

18:50 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

18:50 <Tank_Master> hf!

18:52 <FreeLarry58> don't spend it all in one place KathrynM ;)

18:52 <PovAddict> FreeLarry58 has experience about that

18:53 <Tank_Master> or on one pimp!

18:54 <xcamel> tiny

18:54 <FreeLarry58> yeah wife spends it all for me

18:54 <xcamel> oops..

18:57 <xcamel> the ICHC stuff is really funny - if you like cats..

18:57 <PovAddict> if you prefer dogs

18:57 <xcamel> even if you hate them...

19:00 <Tank_Master> &cad

19:00 <Romulus>

19:04 <xcamel> Romulus, learn Dogz! as

19:04 <Romulus> xcamel: The operation succeeded.

19:09 <xcamel> ip kill >>

19:10 <Tank_Master> ip kill>>

19:11 <xcamel> &insult Tank_Master

19:11 <Romulus> Tank_Master - You are nothing but an inferior heap of swag-bellied waste.

19:12 <Tank_Master> heh

19:13 <Tank_Master> Romulus - you are nothing but a bit ridden gassbag

19:13 <Romulus> Got it.

19:13 <Tank_Master> takes up a lot of space but doesnt do anything

19:13 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: damn you...

19:13 <PovAddict> see what you dod now

19:13 <PovAddict> did*

19:13 <PovAddict> you?

19:13 <Romulus> you are upper fayl, PovAddict

19:13 <PovAddict> you are?

19:14 <PovAddict> Romulus: what is you?

19:14 <Romulus> No idea.

19:14 <PovAddict> anyway I'm sure you just added 'you are nothing but a bit ridden gassbag' as a factoid

19:14 <Tank_Master> Romulus: you have any idea?

19:14 <Romulus> No idea, Tank_Master.

19:15 <Tank_Master> ahh

19:15 <Tank_Master> lol

19:15 <Tank_Master> didnt know that

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19:29 <xcamel> &Dogz!

19:29 <Romulus> xcamel: "Dogz!" could be

19:36 <xcamel> damn... you ought to see the hostname on reisel...

19:36 <xcamel> >>HASH(0xe375a8)<<

19:36 <xcamel> that's bizzare

19:36 <Tank_Master> >>clash<<

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19:41 <xcamel> wonder if I should detach/re attach

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19:48 <MTughan> Whoa... xcamel: That looks like Perl.

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19:50 <xcamel> pearls before swine?

19:50 <xcamel> wonder if it's because it's a 64 bit host..

19:50 <PovAddic1> ask on boinc_alpha; I'm *sure* I have seen that problem before

19:51 <PovAddic1> with the HASH thing

19:51 <MTughan> Really. If you try to print out a hash as a scalar value, AKA a variable, that's how it shows up.

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19:51 <MTughan> BTW, a hash is an associative array in Perl.

19:51 <PovAddict> there's no perl in BOINC

19:51 <xcamel> uh-huh

19:51 <PovAddict> so where is that coming fro--- PERLBOINC SERVER!

19:51 * xcamel tenders same dumb look

19:51 <MTughan> Isn't there a PerlBoinc or somthing?

19:51 <MTughan> something*

19:51 <PovAddict> xcamel: what project are you having the problem with?

19:52 <xcamel> none of them picked up the hostname on attach..

19:52 <MTughan> I think he gave me a link to Einstein...

19:53 <xcamel> not sure why, and reisel has a hash value instead of a hostname

19:53 <PovAddict> rieselsieve runs perlboinc, so that's it...

19:54 <xcamel> pretty strange..

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19:58 <xcamel> HA! seti picked it up correctly

20:00 <xcamel> so there is hope..

20:00 <xcamel>

20:00 <Romulus> <> (at

20:01 <MTughan> We don't see the hostname, so we'll take your word for it.

20:01 <xcamel>

20:01 <Romulus> <> (at

20:01 <xcamel> oh..

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20:39 <xcamel> 'lo BB

20:39 <Bad_At_Home> woohoo the quad is Back online

20:39 <Bad_At_Home> 'lo jay

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20:43 <xcamel> hows thing up on the rim?

20:44 <Bad_At_Home> been warm the last few days in the 50's

20:44 <xcamel> springtime...

20:44 <xcamel> /not

20:44 <Bad_At_Home> lol

20:45 <Bad_At_Home> brb got to reboot for updates

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20:50 <xcamel> that was fast..

20:52 <Bad_At_Home> quads are like that lol

20:54 <xcamel> I have bot pete and repete running now - repete is 64 bit

20:55 <xcamel> er both even

20:55 <Bad_At_Home> cool

20:55 <Bad_At_Home> what distro

20:55 <xcamel> fc8

20:56 <Bad_At_Home> can you run mythtv on fc8

20:56 <xcamel> the benchmarks were impressive - both running at 2.7G

20:56 <Bad_At_Home> nice what cpu

20:57 <xcamel> core 2 quad 2.4

20:57 <Bad_At_Home> cool

20:57 <xcamel> itsmells inside ©

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20:58 <Bad_At_Home> i want to get a benchmark on temp with my current cooling before i oc

20:58 <Bad_At_Home> crunching

20:59 <xcamel> these use heatpipes and an active fan/radiator

20:59 <xcamel> all heat goes outside the box

20:59 <Bad_At_Home> i have the viva water cooling system

20:59 <xcamel> cool (pun intended)

20:59 <Bad_At_Home> lol

21:00 <Bad_At_Home> it was made for videocards but has been adapted to cpu's

21:03 <xcamel> whatever works..

21:03 <Bad_At_Home> i hear you but have a typhoon on hand in case of problems

21:04 <Bad_At_Home> running 43c wich case open

21:04 <Bad_At_Home> with

21:07 <xcamel> I have to set it up so I can ssh to it and get the sensors readings

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21:09 <xcamel> but the place I have them is quite cool temp wise

21:09 <xcamel> stays between 55 and 60F

21:10 <Bad_At_Home> i need to let it run over night and see the temp in morning lol

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21:14 <xcamel> ditto - I have to detach and re-attach 4 projects, as it didn't pick up the host name..

21:15 <Bad_At_Home> :(

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21:19 <xcamel> I'll fix it tomorrow..

21:21 <wdsmia> nice to be the boss

21:22 <xcamel> you mean "she who must be obeyed?"

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21:51 <xcamel> pov back to suffering from CD

21:59 <xcamel> laterz..

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22:04 <Tank_Master> hf

22:07 * KathrynM is back (gone 03:16:35)

22:07 <Tank_Master> wb

22:08 <KathrynM> thx

22:08 <KathrynM> lunch time

22:12 <Tank_Master> easy come, easy go

22:17 <mweltin> PovAddict, you here?

22:18 <PovAddict> yes

22:18 <mweltin> if you have some time I'd like to ask you some questions on #tsp

22:20 <mweltin> or not

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22:32 <mweltin> ok PovAddict I'll just ask here instead.

22:32 <mweltin> so a individual has as members an int, and a vector of ints

22:33 <mweltin> a GA object has a vector of individuals as its population.

22:34 <mweltin> a GA object needs to keep two acitive populations, one for the current generation and one for the next generation.

22:35 <mweltin> is there an advantage to changing the ga populations from vectors of individulas to vectors of individual pointers?

22:36 <Romulus> well the answer on an FPGA fabric

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22:57 <Bad_At_Home_> was'nt as table as i thought

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23:11 <mweltin> hey KathrynM

23:31 <mweltin> anyone make any progress on the xml parser that comes with boinc.

23:31 <PovAddict> how you dare call that an XML parser...

23:31 <mweltin> for all the drawbacks that expat has its still easier to use.

23:31 <mweltin> HAHA

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23:32 <mweltin> very silly of me.

23:32 <mweltin> so did you ready any of my long question PovAddict ?

23:36 <mweltin> dinner time

23:36 <mweltin> later guys, and gal.

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23:49 <Tank_Master> gn?

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