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00:35 <Bad_At_Home> &weather 86023
00:35 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Temperature: 24°F / -4.4°C | Humidity: 96% | Pressure: in / hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 2mph / 3.2km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 20 on the North Rim to around 38 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Wednesday - Mostly sunny in the morning...partly cloudy with a 10 percent chance of rain showers in the afternoon. Highs around 48 on the North (2 more messages)
00:35 <Bad_At_Home> &more
00:35 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Rim to around 72 along the Colorado River. Light winds becoming southwest around 15 mph in the afternoon.; Wednesday Night - Mostly cloudy. Rain and snow likely in the evening...a chance of rain and snow after midnight. Snow accumulation 1 to 2 inches. Snow level 6500 feet decreasing to 5500 feet after midnight. Lows around 30 on the North Rim to around 42 along the Colorado River. Southwest winds (1 more message)
00:35 <Bad_At_Home> &more
00:35 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: 15 to 20 mph. Chance of precipitation 60 percent.;
00:42 <Tank_Master> Chance of Particapation: 0%
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01:00 <mweltin> PovAddict, assume I pass command line args to an app. When the app is restarted, and everything is in the state file what happens to the command line args?
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01:14 <MTughan> Off to bed...
01:27 <yoyo[RKN]> bye MTughan
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03:16 <efc> &weather 30625
03:16 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 59°F / 15°C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 29.61in / 1003hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h ; Today - Cloudy with isolated showers in the morning...then mostly sunny in the afternoon. Windy. Highs in the upper 50s. West winds 10 to 15 mph increasing to 15 to 25 mph in the afternoon. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Tonight - Clear...windy. (1 more message)
03:16 <efc> oops
03:16 <efc> &weather 31088
03:16 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 60°F / 16°C | Humidity: 99% | Pressure: 29.64in / 1004hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h ; Today - Cloudy with scattered showers in the morning...then mostly sunny in the afternoon. Windy. Highs in the mid 50s. West winds 15 to 25 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Tonight - Clear...windy. Lows in the mid 20s. Northwest winds 10 to 20 mph (1 more message)
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03:55 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140
03:55 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 21.5°F / -5.8°C | Humidity: 84% | Pressure: 29.84in / 1010.4hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 1.5mph / 2.4km/h ; Tonight - Snow showers diminishing to a chance of snow showers late. Snow accumulation an inch or less. Lows 15 to 20. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 100 percent.; Wednesday - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of (1 more message)
03:56 <CoderForLife> &more
03:56 <Romulus> CoderForLife: snow early in the morning. Highs in the upper 20s. Northwest winds around 10 mph. Chance of snow 20 percent.; Wednesday Night - Mostly clear. Lows 15 to 20. West winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming south after midnight.; Winter Weather Advisory for Hamilton County in effect until 4:00 AM EST on February 13, 2008;
04:28 <CoderForLife> brb breakfast
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04:36 <efc> moo
04:37 <efc> if its 60, i don't think we're going to hit mid 20s
04:37 <efc> in the next 2 hours
04:40 <CoderForLife> hitting anything tends to hurt
04:46 <efc> 40 degree drop in 3 hours would
04:48 <KathrynM> sounds like Cleveland :)
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04:50 * CoderForLife hates web sites that don't manage the user experience while doing operational changes
04:50 * clusty wags his tail of happiness cause the vmsplice exploit is fixed
04:50 <efc> most of them "manage" it by telling you to get lost
04:51 <CoderForLife> was looking at my accounts on my bank's web site, when it starts throwing errors and mixing up account data
04:51 * CoderForLife has his confidence plummet
04:52 <CoderForLife> "An error has occured. Please contact a customer service representative. [OK]"
04:52 <efc> Your money is gone, goodbye
04:52 <CoderForLife> it's not OK
04:53 <CoderForLife> and no link
04:53 <clusty> prolly were coached by windows ppl
04:53 <efc> maybe i should get all my money in cash.. since I've never seen most of it
04:53 <clusty> would you rather have the root@localhost email address to complain to?
04:53 <CoderForLife> "Your hard drive needs to be reformatted. [OK]"
04:53 <clusty> :D
04:54 <CoderForLife> to your point, 3 customer service messages I posted to their web site have never been responded to
04:55 <efc> one of my banks demanded I send in statements for other bank's accounts or some crap like that.. I never did, and they seemed to have survived
04:55 <clusty> i wrote two emails and got both answered within 6h
04:56 <clusty> maybe change banks or countries :D
04:56 <clusty> CFL you are from UK?
04:57 <clusty> brb
04:57 <clusty> gotta reboot
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04:59 <CoderForLife> yup, my 3 messages are still sitting out in the Message Center, unanswered
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05:01 <CoderForLife> now their web site is working again
05:01 <CoderForLife> 15 minutes of data hell
05:03 <CoderForLife> "Dear Faithful Customer: We are going to temporarily disconnect the web site from backend data sources. This will yield 15 minutes of data pergatory, where perdition's flames will consume your accounts. We're not going to manage this, or set you expectations as to what is happening. Sorry about your luck. Have you seen our new CD rates?"
05:04 <clusty> lool
05:04 <CoderForLife> no clusty, I am not in the UK
05:04 <CoderForLife> U.S.
05:07 <efc> The rates have all gone to poop, unfortunately, should have got those 5% CDs
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05:07 <efc> The savings rates have dropped like a rock but the mortage rates have barely budged, hmm.
05:11 <CoderForLife> Based on service levels, I wouldn't be interested in further, um, "services"
05:14 <efc> I shoulda gone into gold when I had that dream
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05:16 <CoderForLife> dreams of avarice
05:17 <efc> I dreamed of a depression, pervasive poverty. Woke up and though "buy gold" but didn't do it.
05:17 <efc> dad helped talk me out of it (I have found, in fact, that he doesn't want me to do anything at all)
05:19 <CoderForLife> "doing nothing" may not be a safe course of action (or inaction, as the case may be)
05:20 <efc> Yeah I know, I've already deep 6'd myself pretty good over the last 10 years doing that
05:21 * KathrynM gives Windows update a dirty look
05:21 <CoderForLife> speaking of money, I'm off to w@#%
05:21 <CoderForLife> cya nice folks back here soon
05:22 <KathrynM> laters
05:22 <efc> Later CFL
05:22 * CoderForLife finds he is already "away"
05:22 <CoderForLife> bye
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05:37 <clusty> CoderForLife, where do you have account?
05:37 <clusty> CoderForLife, i had at bank of A
05:37 <clusty> which kinda sucked
05:37 <efc> I can't imagine why anybody uses them..
05:38 <clusty> B of A?
05:38 <efc> Yes
05:39 <clusty> i was a dumb kid from europe
05:39 <clusty> earning first cash
05:39 <clusty> and for first time could not put the cash inside the matress
05:39 <clusty> :D
05:39 <efc> In college I had to cash a check there.. charged me $5, and that was 10 years ago, its probably more now
05:40 <clusty> i still have account with them
05:40 <clusty> i guess
05:40 <clusty> left 20 bux
05:40 <clusty> opened 2 accounts (checkiung savings)
05:40 <efc> they give terrible interest (though thats not uncommon)
05:40 <clusty> and cash bounces once a month from 1 to another
05:40 <clusty> interest is negligible
05:40 <clusty> even in their investment plans
05:41 <clusty> you can do much better doing currency speculations :D
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05:41 <efc> I use the high interest type internet accounts, but losing on even those now
05:42 <efc> Gotta grab some Zzz, later
05:42 <clusty> well they are designed to always be under inflation rate
05:42 <clusty> laterz
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05:46 <KathrynM> the whole freakin' internet is goofy tonight.
05:47 <KathrynM> ms updates are running at a snail's pace.
05:51 <xcamel_away> boo
05:54 <clusty> aloha
05:54 <clusty> kathy, yippie the vmsplice kernel exploit is fixed....
05:55 <clusty> not having trembly pants anymore
05:57 * KathrynM goes to yum up my system
05:58 <clusty> ...for ubuntu and debian
05:58 <clusty> hope RH fixed it already
05:58 <KathrynM> ah
05:58 <KathrynM> let's see what yum says
05:58 <clusty> sounds funny yumming up the system :D
05:58 <KathrynM> I <3 yum
05:59 <clusty> much better than yucking it
05:59 <clusty> D:
05:59 <KathrynM> lol
06:01 <KathrynM> nothing. But I think I ran update last night... I can't remember.
06:01 <clusty> but this exploit wreaked havoc
06:02 <clusty> got a message from tech support from old uni (where i have an account)
06:02 <clusty> they shut down all services for 2 days
06:02 <KathrynM> wow
06:02 <KathrynM> I saw something about it. But I was clueless as to what I read.
06:02 <clusty> i mean you can change grades
06:02 <clusty> get access to fin info
06:02 <clusty> and so forth
06:02 <KathrynM> ouch. bad bad bad
06:03 <clusty> any1 who had tiny amounts of rigts got superman rights after one command
06:03 <KathrynM> holy crap
06:04 <clusty> was not as bad with my company as we were hacked the week before :D
06:04 <clusty> because of a weak passoword
06:04 <clusty> but i could have spent one week of work and be rehacked
06:04 <clusty> would have sucked
06:05 <KathrynM> super sucky
06:06 <clusty> how is the school return
06:06 <clusty> or whatever is called
06:06 <clusty> any more twinkle twinkle star songs :D
06:09 <KathrynM> lol
06:09 <KathrynM> nah.
06:09 <KathrynM> we did an experiment with yeast the other day.
06:10 <clusty> bubbling?
06:10 <KathrynM> I've gotta get the pictures cropped and everything so we can do the posters
06:10 <KathrynM> yeah
06:10 <KathrynM> except when you add salt
06:10 <clusty> i kinda liked more as a kid growing beans
06:10 <CoderForLife> out the door with me to w@#%
06:10 <clusty> CFL, not working
06:10 <KathrynM> ha. another class planted flowers today.
06:10 <clusty> how old are they?
06:10 <CoderForLife> you must be blocked
06:10 <CoderForLife> cya
06:10 <clusty> like 10 or so?
06:10 <KathrynM> 3-4 grade
06:11 <clusty> why blocked
06:11 <KathrynM> laters CoderForLife
06:11 <clusty> anbd by whom?
06:11 <clusty> :*(
06:11 <KathrynM> awwwwwwww poor clusty
06:11 <clusty> being block so so not cool
06:11 <clusty> :D
06:11 <KathrynM> the class was working on using exact words when writing directions.
06:11 <KathrynM> so I made them write about how to plant a seed
06:11 <clusty> can use the https
06:12 <clusty> inventive
06:12 <KathrynM> today they exchanged papers and tried to follow their classmates directions.
06:12 <clusty> cute
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06:12 <KathrynM> thanks. the less grammar I have to teach the better.
06:12 <clusty> my english teachers were boring :D
06:12 <clusty> i was having fun making them feel bad
06:12 <KathrynM> lol
06:12 <clusty> they only reason I was studying like mad was to embarass them
06:13 <KathrynM> :)
06:13 <clusty> as they were not very bright
06:13 <clusty> remember in 5th grade she had to do some demo lesson
06:13 <clusty> so she could get more cash
06:13 <clusty> and the school board inspectors came and stuff
06:13 <clusty> yummmm
06:14 <clusty> more audience for me
06:14 <clusty> :D
06:14 <KathrynM> so you were a troublemaker :)
06:14 <clusty> damn, should have been an actor or something
06:14 <clusty> loved performing :D
06:14 <clusty> being in center of attention
06:14 <KathrynM> :)
06:15 <KathrynM> it's actually quite scary what will amuse some of my students.
06:15 <KathrynM> You know those codes a=1, b=2....
06:15 <KathrynM> I made my kids write riddles and the letters corresponded to different minutes on a clock face.
06:16 <KathrynM> because they're in the time chapter in their math book.
06:16 <clusty> :D
06:16 <clusty> you are building the new and improved geek generation
06:16 <clusty> :D
06:16 <clusty> harvest them while they are young
06:16 <KathrynM> I used that image
06:17 <KathrynM> the 12 students generated like 50 riddles in 30 minutes.
06:17 <KathrynM> I copied all of them and put them into a puzzle book for the entire class.
06:17 <clusty> cute
06:17 <KathrynM> gave a copy of it to their Korean charge teacher and kept a copy for myself
06:18 <clusty> is it a normal school?
06:18 <clusty> and you are the EN teacher?
06:18 <KathrynM> nope.
06:18 <clusty> school for foreigners?
06:18 <KathrynM> It's a dedicated Eng academy. But
06:18 <clusty> cute
06:18 <KathrynM> We teach grammar, reading, usual English stuff, but also math and science.
06:18 <Romulus> That's odd that Fedora's packages haven't been on here
06:19 <KathrynM> Yo rommie, you're just odd
06:19 <clusty> the first true foreginer i saw was in an english camp
06:19 <clusty> 6-7th grade or so
06:19 <clusty> a bunch of guys from manchester came
06:19 <clusty> took me long time to understand them
06:19 <clusty> hoish
06:19 <clusty> :D
06:20 <KathrynM> :)
06:20 <clusty> is how they call a house
06:20 <clusty> :D
06:20 <clusty> remember one of them screaming in the night
06:20 <clusty> hewp
06:20 <clusty> my hoish ij on fieee
06:20 <clusty> :D
06:20 <clusty> translation:
06:21 <clusty> help my house is on fire
06:21 <clusty> we were looking at him and nodding politely
06:21 <clusty> :D
06:21 <KathrynM> lol
06:21 <clusty> no joke
06:21 <clusty> was not fire just clogged chimney
06:22 <KathrynM> not good
06:24 <KathrynM> bbiab
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06:31 <wdsmia> &weather 50319
06:36 <hawmps> &weather 50319
06:36 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 1°F / -17°C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 30.10in / 1019hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Not as cold. High in the mid 20s. South wind near 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening then becoming mostly cloudy. Not as cold. Low 15 to 20. South wind 10 to 15 mph.; Thursday - Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of (1 more message)
06:36 <hawmps> weird..
06:40 <wdsmia> rommie was asleep...wish I was
06:41 <hawmps> lol - heavy freezing rain here right now..
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07:23 <MTughan> School...
07:23 <hawmps> Ice..
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07:24 <wdsmia> w#$%
07:30 <hawmps> looks like the hostname problem is solved..
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07:41 <clusty> any1 know some PHP?
07:41 <clusty> getting this error
07:41 <clusty> Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 16777216 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 81 bytes) i
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08:38 <Bad_At_Home> Mornin
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08:41 <hawmps> uh-huh
08:43 <KathrynM> i've never had windows update be so freakin' stubborn. i give up for the month. I hardly think .net needs updated when all the dumb thing does is crunch.
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08:46 <hawmps> very true..
08:46 <hawmps> I call it 'dot not'
08:48 <Bad_At_Home> woohoo my quads back
08:49 <Bad_At_Home> mornin Kat
08:49 <Bad_At_Home> Mornin Hawmps
08:49 <KathrynM> mornin Bad_At_Home
08:51 <PovAddict> uninstall it :)
09:11 <clusty> you guys know some place where one can get some info on windows programming
09:11 <clusty> like process management
09:11 <clusty> no clue where to even start
09:20 <Romulus> Title: EFNet #Winprog (at www.winprog.org)
09:23 <clusty> one 100 thanx
09:50 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...
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11:16 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - 50 Cent: Obama Would Get Killed Because He's Black (at www.youtube.com)
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11:59 <Romulus> WB, Boss
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13:50 <Lorvija> hey... i'm trying to search info about something but donno the english word..
13:50 <Lorvija> it's somekind of water heater screwed in the wall...
13:50 <Lorvija> heating the room..
13:50 <Lorvija> usually metal..
13:50 <PovAddict> one o' those?
13:51 <Lorvija> aye (:
13:51 <Lorvija> so just household radiator? (:
13:51 <PovAddict> or just radiator
13:51 <Lorvija> okay
13:52 <Lorvija> have u ever seen electronic thermostat for one of those?
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14:20 <hawmps> &Katz!
14:23 <hawmps> &Dogz!
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15:02 <hawmps> 'lo BB
15:05 <Bad_At_Home> Howdy
15:07 <hawmps> ice done, now all rain...
15:07 <hawmps> till later
15:07 <Bad_At_Home> we are getting snow tonite
15:09 <Bad_At_Home> &weather 86046
15:09 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: Temperature: 50.0°F / 10.0°C | Humidity: 37% | Pressure: 23.45in / 794.0hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 8.7mph / 14.0km/h ; Today - Breezy. Mostly sunny in the morning then becoming partly cloudy. Highs 50 to 56. Light winds becoming southwest 15 to 25 mph with gusts up to 40 mph in the afternoon.; Tonight - Windy. Mostly cloudy. A chance of rain and snow (2 more messages)
15:09 <Bad_At_Home> &more
15:09 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: showers in the evening...snow showers likely after midnight. Snow accumulation 1 to 2 inches. Snow level 7000 feet in the evening. Lows 26 to 32. Southwest winds 20 to 30 mph decreasing to 15 to 20 mph early in the morning. Chance of precipitation 70 percent.; Thursday - Breezy. Much colder. Snow showers likely. Snow accumulation 2 to 4 inches. Near steady temperature in the lower 30s. Northwest (1 more message)
15:09 <Bad_At_Home> &more
15:09 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: winds 15 to 25 mph. Chance of snow 60 percent.; Wind Advisory for Coconino County in effect until 12:00 AM MST on February 14, 2008;
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15:52 * xcamel_away is back.
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15:53 <xcamel> re-hi
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16:16 <yoyo[RKN]> hi zombie67
16:17 <zombie67> hi
16:17 <zombie67> heh
16:19 <xcamel> re-hi
16:19 * xcamel repeats self..
16:20 <yoyo[RKN]> we will see how the race http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/challenge/viewTeamChallenge.do?challengeId=821 will be
16:22 <zombie67> I will be moving my PPC macs to WCH once they finish up SETI.
16:22 <xcamel> boincstats is mighty slow today..
16:23 <CoderForLife> hello
16:23 <zombie67> in about 9 days
16:23 <xcamel> 'lo Don
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16:25 <CoderForLife> hello Jay
16:26 <CoderForLife> here's our press release today from w@#%: http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20080208005463&newsLang=en
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16:29 * CoderForLife raises one eyebrow
16:29 <PovAddict> VersionBot: update
16:29 <VersionBot> Latest BOINC version for Windows: 5.10.41
16:30 <PovAddict> I'll leave it running till Rom releases .42, and see if it "notices"
16:30 <PovAddict> it's scraping the download page on boinc site
16:34 <PovAddict> it's replying IRC pings - good...
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16:41 <xcamel> interesting idea..
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16:48 <zombie67> broke 100,000 at LHC!
16:49 <xcamel> congrats!
16:49 <xcamel> they have any more work?
16:49 <PovAddict> not now
16:49 <wdsmia_w> broke 270,000 there :)
16:50 <xcamel> 240,000 here
16:51 <xcamel> ...almost..
16:51 <wdsmia_w> #20 total credit LHC
16:51 <wdsmia_w> made it to the first page :)
16:56 <xcamel> man.. you can tell rush hour started... the scanner is hopping
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17:05 <i10neorg> I'm not sure how to search for the following, so I'm asking here first...
17:06 <i10neorg> Since most computers are generating heat, even when they aren't crunching, but are obviously warmer when crunching...
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17:07 <i10neorg> Has there been any discussion of the optimum "max cpu" (cpu throttling) level so that your computer is almost generated as much heat as if it was idle?
17:07 <PovAddict> 0% is the only setting that would generate as much heat as when idle
17:08 <i10neorg> I was affraid of that.
17:08 <MTughan> There's a few factors for that: how much CPU is still used when idle, what CPU fan you have, on so forth.
17:08 <PovAddict> a computer running at 10% CPU usage will heat slightly more than one at 0%...
17:08 <MTughan> I suppose it'd be possible to get close, but yeah, pretty well 0%.
17:08 <i10neorg> I thought perhaps noop type things might generate as much as some real work.
17:08 <i10neorg> Okay, thanks.
17:08 <PovAddict> well, redrawing open windows and updating the clock uses CPU
17:09 <i10neorg> I've been slowly up-ing the cpu usage until my laptop fan turns on, then backing off.
17:09 <PovAddict> but if you run BOINC at 1%, you have open windows getting redrawn, updating the clock, *and* 1% boinc...
17:09 <i10neorg> I see.
17:10 <PovAddict> also: laptops cool better if air can flow below them
17:10 <i10neorg> Thanks for the reply. Friendly channel. :^) Later.
17:10 <MTughan> Nice emoticon...
17:10 <PovAddict> there are some fancy things where you "dock" the laptop and gets cooler... but even a pair of pencils to keep it 5mm above the table would work to cool it a bit more :D
17:11 <MTughan> Huh... Appeared as a snowman on the GUI emoticons...
17:11 <MTughan> Heh, on my Macbook removing the battery lowers the temperature by 20C.
17:11 <i10neorg> MTughan: Intesting. Good to know what my smile looks like elsewhere!
17:12 <MTughan> Hold on a sec, I'll get you a screenshot.
17:13 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2008 February 13 - Elliptical Galaxy NGC 1132 (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)
17:13 <i10neorg> MTughan: Funny! Thanks. I guess that character I use for a nose is a "carrot" after all. :)
17:13 <MTughan> Yeah.
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17:14 <FreeLarry58> anyone know what happened to janus's site (BURP) ben offline for days now
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17:14 <zombie67> the HD on my iBook just crapped out
17:14 <xcamel> unknown..
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17:15 <xcamel> zombie.. welcome to the club - they all fail catastrophically
17:15 <Romulus> Talk to the crediting situation is through a services application in the United States. It marked the biggest one I got this many ready to go down that road.
17:15 <xcamel> betting it's out of warranty too...
17:16 <PovAddict> warranty or not, they don't give you your data back for sure...
17:16 <MTughan> Heh.
17:16 <xcamel> seagate is still laughing from when I sent mine in...
17:16 <zombie67> oh yeah. 2004
17:16 <PovAddict> oh yes, it's still in warranty, here's your new blank disk
17:16 <zombie67> I was only using it for a cruncher anyway
17:17 <xcamel> omar ackbar shalala-boom-boom said "The platters exploded, we just threw it away"
17:18 <FreeLarry58> got a hold of the wifes laptop last night and did over a years worth of updates to it
17:18 <FreeLarry58> and she said it wouldn't connect to internet
17:18 <xcamel> lol
17:18 <FreeLarry58> it would if she would have turned on the wireless connection switch
17:18 <xcamel> like the 4 gigs of $h1t I took off my daughters hp laptop
17:18 <PovAddict> I have four windows updates waiting for me to feel like installing them...
17:19 <FreeLarry58> ohh thats still waiting for me
17:19 <zombie67> i did all my updates to my XP machines today, and all my Macs yesterday
17:19 <PovAddict> I can't be bothered to reboot right now
17:19 <FreeLarry58> i know that feeling PovAddict
17:21 <xcamel> btw - repete is running nicely
17:23 <FreeLarry58> how did you figure out how to get its name reported - my c2d still shows localhost.localdomain dispite all attempts to edit
17:24 <FreeLarry58> everytime i restart boinc it goes back
17:25 <FreeLarry58> when i boot up it shows the correct name for machine (frlar2)
17:25 <Romulus> my old computer had its yearly de-dusting :-)
17:25 * FreeLarry58 looks like Romulus is cleaning out his mind again
17:25 <wdsmia_w> on the road again...bbl
17:25 <FreeLarry58> tc wdsmia
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17:45 <CoderForLife> re-hi
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17:56 <VersionBot> Latest BOINC version for Windows: 5.10.41
17:56 <MTughan> ...
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17:56 <Romulus> looks like a million credits a day..
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17:56 <PovAddict> is freenode having trouble, or is it just my client?
17:56 <MTughan> Netsplits.
17:56 <MTughan> * PovAddict left the chat room. (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
17:56 <MTughan> Tank_Master'd like that...
17:58 <PovAddict> &ping
17:58 <Romulus> pong
18:03 <xcamel> &ding
18:03 <Romulus> DONG!
18:04 <xcamel> kornbluth was going down for maint. at 21:00
18:06 <MTughan> 21:00 what?
18:07 <xcamel> whatever timezone kornbluth is in..
18:07 <MTughan> If that was just about 10 minutes ago, that's in the Atlantic.
18:08 <xcamel> out in the bermuda triangle...
18:09 <MTughan> Dinner time...
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18:15 <xcamel> wb
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18:29 * KathrynM is back (gone 08:39:01)
18:29 <KathrynM> *groan*
18:29 <KathrynM> mornin
18:29 <Bad_At_Home> evening kat
18:31 <KathrynM> I'll switch. I'll take your evening and you can have my morning
18:33 <VersionBot> Latest BOINC version for Windows: 5.10.42
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18:38 <wdsmia> brb
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18:39 <MTughan> Whoa... Seems there was some LHC work not too long ago.
18:39 <MTughan> Nothing now.
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18:48 <xcamel> mornin
18:49 <MTughan> http://michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org/BOINCMgrRender.png How's that?
18:50 <MTughan> http://michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org/BOINCMgrRender.png How's that?
18:50 <MTughan> That's better...
18:52 <KathrynM> wow. that looks good
18:52 <MTughan> Anyway, I think that it's coming along.
18:53 <MTughan> Just the background...
18:53 <KathrynM> The only thing that looks sorta weird is the dark grey line dividing the two parts of the background
18:53 <MTughan> Yeah, I'm still working on the BG.
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19:41 <xcamel> that has got to be a real pain...
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19:55 <Bad_At_Home> 'lo Jay
19:58 <PovAddic1> VersionBot: quit
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20:00 <MTughan> Hmm, not much security?
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20:02 <xcamel> unknown..
20:04 <zombie67> bbl
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20:08 <xcamel> woah... suddenly boincmgr picked up a gnome theme...
20:08 <xcamel> that's really weird..
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20:22 <MTughan> What, the skin?
20:22 <xcamel> yup
20:23 <MTughan> It's Emerald. I've seen it before.
20:23 <xcamel> never seen that one before..
20:23 <MTughan> And the Compiz Fusion icon is in the taskbar.
20:23 <xcamel> it's never taken on a skin before, I should say
20:23 <xcamel> boincmgr, that is..
20:24 <MTughan> It skins all apps.
20:25 <xcamel> point - it never has before - not mgr, anyway..
20:32 <xcamel> and I gave an entirely different skin turned on...
20:41 <PovAddict> the titlebar buttons look similar to a skin I had for Windoze
20:53 <xcamel> it's just odd
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21:27 <efc> My new RAM came in.. one bad stick so far :(
21:27 <PovAddict> o_O
21:28 <efc> One of the others would only work in a certain slot...
21:29 <efc> At least I learned what happens when ECC finds an error
21:30 <efc> Bluescreen.. (improvement ?!)
21:30 <xcamel> wattch buildi9ng?
21:31 <xcamel> 'buildi9ng' -- yeah, right
21:31 <xcamel> building..
21:32 <Tank_Master> for ECC to work, both the mobo and the memory stick need to support it
21:32 <Tank_Master> and it needs to be enabled in the bios
21:32 <efc> Yes, its all ECC, all turned on.
21:32 <Tank_Master> just having ECC RAM wont get you ECC
21:32 <Tank_Master> good
21:33 <Tank_Master> but ECC doesnt correct all errors
21:33 <efc> One stick worked, the other didn't (will run Memtest soon and test the ()#$# out of them)
21:33 <Tank_Master> :)
21:33 <Tank_Master> good idea
21:34 <efc> I have one system so old the 2nd generation of RAM is going bad.. It seems to start going bad after 10 year or so
21:34 <Tank_Master> whats in it?
21:34 <Tank_Master> (type of ram)
21:36 <efc> That one is a 30 pin SIMM type
21:36 <Tank_Master> ahh
21:36 <Tank_Master> I only have 72pin
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21:36 <efc> Also, I have an Intel Aboveboard that fails a few more chips (DIPs) every time I fire it up
21:37 <efc> Those are about 20 years old. Lots of them are marginal, will pass or fail depending on what day it is.
21:37 <efc> And with 72 chips on there, that keeps you busy..
21:39 <Tank_Master> lol
21:39 <Tank_Master> no thx
21:39 <Tank_Master> y not toss it?
21:42 <efc> Its sort of a unique hard to find item
21:43 <Tank_Master> good reason to get rid of it
21:43 <efc> if you want to max out the RAM in an old system
21:43 <efc> 72 DIPs.. 2 megs
21:43 <PovAddict> lol
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21:56 <efc> Also picked up a P200 to help out my old system with a WU.. speed it up a little :) then stick the old cpu back in there..
22:00 <xcamel> laterz..
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22:08 <zombie67> anyone tried out 42 yet?
22:08 <PovAddict> ?
22:08 <PovAddict> boinc 5.10.42?
22:08 <PovAddict> I haven't
22:08 <PovAddict> &windows
22:08 <Romulus> PovAddict: "windows" could be http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_5.10.41_windows_intelx86.exe
22:08 <PovAddict> &factoid change windows 1 s/41/42/
22:08 <Romulus> No idea!
22:08 <PovAddict> &factoids change windows 1 s/41/42/
22:08 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.
22:09 <PovAddict> &factoids change win64 1 s/41/42/
22:09 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.
22:15 <Romulus> Title: Sheet1 (at sterlingdesktops.com)
22:15 <Soul_keeper> getting 30% worse gas mileage all of a sudden
22:17 <zombie67> rom thinks 42 is the final for 5.10
22:17 <PovAddict> he followed up saying there will be a .43 in a week, updating translation files
22:21 <zombie67> really? I didn't see that on the lists
22:21 <PovAddict> ah I think it went to the translator list only
22:21 <Romulus> I'm moving my project
22:25 <zombie67> does PG run in high priority all the time?
22:25 <PovAddict> o_o
22:26 <PovAddict> you mean process priority?
22:26 <PovAddict> or the workunits?
22:26 <PovAddict> I never got that with PG
22:26 <zombie67> Status says "Running, high priority"
22:26 <PovAddict> means deadline trouble
22:26 <PovAddict> what's your connection interval setting?
22:26 <zombie67> I know that.
22:27 <zombie67> 0
22:27 <PovAddict> you sure you don't have local settings overriding it?
22:27 <zombie67> yes
22:27 <PovAddict> you sure QCN didn't hijack that setting?
22:27 <Soul_keeper> bla
22:27 <zombie67> yes
22:27 <PovAddict> do you have work from other projects?
22:27 <zombie67> yes
22:27 <PovAddict> what OS are you on?
22:27 <zombie67> XP64
22:28 <zombie67> it dowloads work, and then imeediately goes into panic mode
22:28 <zombie67> but only for PG
22:28 <PovAddict> command prompt
22:28 <PovAddict> cd C:\program files\BOINC (or wherever it's installed)
22:29 <zombie67> ok
22:30 <PovAddict> boinccmd --get_results > results.txt & notepad results.txt
22:30 <PovAddict> copy/type the line exactly like that; then copy everything from the notepad that
22:30 <PovAddict> opened into www.pastebin.com or something
22:30 <Romulus> yeah stop by my side and a cig lighter
22:30 <PovAddict> [weird, why did that wrap...]
22:30 <zombie67> can't copy/paste
22:31 <zombie67> this is a remote machine via vnc
22:31 <PovAddict> well if you press Ctrl-C it would copy to the clipboard on that machine, right?
22:31 <PovAddict> open a browser there, put it there... as long as you can copy the final link from pastebin
22:31 <zombie67> lemme email it to myself
22:36 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Stuff - post number 903275 (at www.pastebin.ca)
22:36 <PovAddict> a CPDN unit waiting to run?
22:37 <PovAddict> and LOTS of ABC
22:37 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Stuff - post number 903277 (at www.pastebin.ca)
22:37 <zombie67> yeah
22:37 <PovAddict> &math convert 7208.157146 seconds to hours
22:37 <Romulus> PovAddict: 2.00226587389
22:37 <zombie67> about 20 ABC. all est at 2 hours
22:38 <PovAddict> could be all those ABC then...
22:38 <zombie67> no. due date 02/21
22:38 <zombie67> 20x2= 40 hours
22:38 <zombie67> 20 hours/proc
22:40 <zombie67> about 80 PG WUs at 6 min per = 480 min /2 proc = 240 min = 4 hours.
22:42 <zombie67> plus about 7 tsp at 25 min per, and a couple of LHC
22:42 <zombie67> plus that one CPDN Beta 2 WU, due a year from now
22:43 <zombie67> my settings are 0 connect time plus 1 day additional work. And that is about what I actually have in the queue
22:43 <PovAddict> well I dunno already
22:43 <PovAddict> if you really want to know, send your paste to John McLeod, he's the client scheduler guy...
22:44 <zombie67> not that bad. Just wondering if this behavior is being seen by anyone else running PG.
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22:52 <zombie67> &weather 94568
22:52 <zombie67> er
22:53 <zombie67> where does it pull the data from anyway?
22:53 <PovAddict> I'm not sure; it has more than one datasource afaik
22:54 <zombie67> trees are sideways here!
22:54 <zombie67> wind came out of nowhere!
22:55 <zombie67> brb
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22:58 <zombie67> ug. BS is slow
22:59 <MTughan> Could be in the middle of an incremental upda2008-02-13T23:02:06 <PovAddict> differing OS string
23:02 <MTughan> That stops it?
23:02 <PovAddict> yep...
23:02 <MTughan> Ouch...
23:02 <zombie67> ooh! I *can*
23:02 <MTughan> http://michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org/BOINCMgrRender.png Hot off the CPU.
23:02 <zombie67> at least on modern projects
23:03 <MTughan> That should help with the subdivisions, make it seem more like true curves.
23:03 <zombie67> the older projects don't allow that....and there are a LOT that are old
23:04 <zombie67> time to do my periodical merge at all projects
23:04 <zombie67> mid 80s of them now
23:04 <PovAddict> 80 projects?
23:05 <Romulus> the client which lost my BOINC wrapper to work on the web stuff is selling..
23:05 <MTughan> Aiee...
23:05 <zombie67> 82. but that's old. up to 84 now
23:05 <PovAddict> holy crap!
23:06 <zombie67> many dead. But still, well over 60 active
23:06 <PovAddict> also, I see you have a Test Project, at elm.cis.uncw.edu...
23:06 <PovAddict> see PM
23:06 <PovAddict> owner is a total boinc noob though
23:07 <zombie67> there are several still called "test project"
23:07 <zombie67> default BOINC install
23:08 <MTughan> PovAddict: Can you see the lines on the latest render?
23:09 <zombie67> brb
23:12 <zombie67> back
23:13 <zombie67> the good news is that only about 2/3 are on BS. Those are the ones that matter for merging
23:16 <Romulus> Title: Cosmology@Home (at cosmologyathome.org)
23:16 <zombie67> that is a BIG uotd
23:17 <PovAddict> image shows tiny for me
23:17 <Romulus> thinks Romulus would say Resistance Is Futile
23:17 <zombie67> really? Fills up the page for me
23:19 <zombie67> why does the processor desc change 32 vs 64 bit??
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23:20 <MTughan> 'lo e
23:20 <efc> remoo
23:20 <zombie67> Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.40GHz [x86 Family 15 Model 6 Stepping 2]
23:20 <zombie67> Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.40GHz [EM64T Family 15 Model 6 Stepping 2]
23:21 <MTughan> Architecture.
23:21 <zombie67> older projects can't handle that
23:21 <zombie67> but its the same chip!
23:21 <MTughan> But one is a 32-bit OS and sees the processor as such.
23:21 <zombie67> exactly! The difference is the OS!
23:21 <zombie67> the proc desc should not change
23:22 <MTughan> A 64-bit processor seems like a 32-bit processor to a 32-bit OS, so there's not much you can do abut it.
23:22 <MTughan> about*
23:23 <MTughan> Because it's the OS that reports the processor, not BOINC.
23:23 <zombie67> BUT!
23:23 <zombie67> there are two things reported
23:23 <zombie67> CPU and OS
23:23 <zombie67> they should be independent
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23:24 <MTughan> Maybe there was a 32-bit Pentium D 3.4GHz. How do you tell the 32-bit from the 64-bit?
23:24 <efc> What does cpuz say..
23:24 <zombie67> that was the same chip, reported by BOINC under XP32, the XP64