IRC logs of #boinc for Tuesday, 2008-02-19

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00:28 <MTughan> &ping

00:28 <Romulus> pong

00:30 <Wabbit67> my balls

00:37 <MTughan> o_O

00:37 <MTughan> &weather Toronto

00:37 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 28°F / -2°C | Humidity: 64% | Pressure: 29.64in / 1004hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 23mph / 37km/h | Updated: 12:00 AM EST; Tonight - A few flurries ending early this evening then cloudy with 40 percent chance of flurries. Wind southwest 30 km/h (19 mph) gusting to 50 km/h (31 mph). Low -9C(15F).; Tuesday - Cloudy with sunny periods and 60 (1 more message)

00:37 <MTughan> &more

00:37 <Romulus> MTughan: percent chance of flurries. Wind west 30 km/h (19 mph). High -4C(24F). Tuesday night cloudy with 60 percent chance of flurries early in the evening. Clearing in the evening. Wind west 40 km/h (25 mph) gusting to 60 km/h (37 mph). Low -13C(8F).; Wednesday - Cloudy with 70 percent chance of flurries. High -6C(21F).;

00:38 <MTughan> I write a programming contest tomorrow... :D

00:38 <MTughan> Here's what I should write it in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespeare_%28programming_language%29

00:38 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1Zqf> (at en.wikipedia.org)

00:39 <MTughan> What am I thinking... Next week, I write it.

00:39 * MTughan smacks himself

00:39 <MTughan> I need sleep...

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00:41 <MTughan> 'lo e

00:41 <efc> Hey

00:46 <efc> darnit, still need to lose weight

00:51 <MTughan> And I need to be off to bed...

00:51 <efc> Night

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01:00 <mweltin> hey Everybody

01:00 <efc> Hey

01:01 <Wabbit> where is my dinner MW?

01:01 <mweltin> wabbit there are seom trix in the kitchen

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01:02 <Romulus> I had to jump start it automatically

01:15 <efc> If I'm hungry i guess I should eat..

01:30 <zombie67> pov, you still there?

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04:42 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

04:42 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 21.7F / -5.7C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 29.96in / 1014.4hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. A slight chance of snow showers this morning. Highs in the upper 20s. West winds 10 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of snow 20 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with snow likely. Snow accumulation 1 (1 more message)

04:43 <CoderForLife> &more

04:43 <Romulus> CoderForLife: to 2 inches. Lows 15 to 20. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 70 percent.; Wednesday - Mostly cloudy with a chance of snow in the morning... then partly sunny in the afternoon. Highs in the upper 20s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of snow 50 percent.;

04:44 <CoderForLife> brb  breakfast

04:50 <CoderForLife> b

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05:20 <CoderForLife> off to w@#%

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06:30 <hawmps> 'lo

06:30 <wdsmia> mornin Jay

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06:37 <clusty> &weather bremen

06:37 <Romulus> clusty: Temperature: 43°F / 6°C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 30.33in / 1027hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 12:20 PM CET; Chance of Rain. High:44 F. / 7 C.; Overcast. Low:37 F. / 3 C.; Overcast. High:46 F. / 8 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:33 F. / 1 C.; Partly Cloudy. High:48 F. / 9 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:39 F. / 4 C.;

06:37 <clusty> &more

06:37 <Romulus> clusty: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more.  To do so, call this command with that person's nick.

06:37 <clusty> &weather bremen

06:37 <clusty> &more

06:37 <Romulus> clusty: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more.  To do so, call this command with that person's nick.

06:37 <Romulus> clusty: Temperature: 43°F / 6°C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 30.33in / 1027hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 12:20 PM CET; Chance of Rain. High:44 F. / 7 C.; Overcast. Low:37 F. / 3 C.; Overcast. High:46 F. / 8 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:33 F. / 1 C.; Partly Cloudy. High:48 F. / 9 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:39 F. / 4 C.;

06:39 <wdsmia> &weather 50319

06:39 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 1F / -17C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 30.19in / 1022hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Snow likely in the afternoon. Little or no snow accumulation. High around 20. Southwest wind 5 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 70 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy early in the evening then becoming partly cloudy. Bitterly cold. (1 more message)

06:40 <wdsmia> &more

06:40 <Romulus> wdsmia: Scattered flurries in the evening. Low 5 to 10 below. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph. Wind chill readings 15 below to 25 below zero.; Wednesday - Sunny. Very cold. High 5 to 10 above. North wind 5 to 15 mph. Lowest wind chill readings 15 below to 25 below zero in the morning.;

06:49 <hawmps> holding at 27F

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07:25 <MTughan> Off to school...

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07:42 <ELGono> double wooooot

07:43 <ELGono> just finished the diskless install ... got 2 sgi now running diskless from a 3rd one with disks, wich can make noise down in the basement server-room

08:10 <hawmps> congrats..

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08:35 <wdsmia_w> &weather 50319

08:35 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: -3F / -19C | Humidity: 75% | Pressure: 30.19in / 1022hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Snow likely in the afternoon. Little or no snow accumulation. High around 20. Southwest wind 5 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 70 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy early in the evening then becoming partly cloudy. Bitterly cold. (1 more message)

08:35 <wdsmia_w> &more

08:35 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Scattered flurries in the evening. Low 5 to 10 below. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph. Wind chill readings 15 below to 25 below zero.; Wednesday - Sunny. Very cold. High 5 to 10 above. North wind 5 to 15 mph. Lowest wind chill readings 15 below to 25 below zero in the morning.;

08:35 <wdsmia_w> getting colder out there

08:44 <hawmps> just has a little snow squall - suddenly dozens of accidents - and school is out this week...

08:47 <clusty> hawmps, where did you live again?

08:47 <clusty> wisconsin?

08:50 <ELGono> lmaof

08:50 <ELGono> sgi is always good for some phun

08:50 <ELGono> NAME

08:50 <ELGono>      snoop - capture and inspect network packets

08:50 <ELGono> OPTIONS

08:50 <ELGono>      -a             Listen to packets on /dev/audio (warning: can be noisy).

08:51 <ELGono> you really can differ broadcasts from dedicated packets

08:58 <hawmps> NY

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12:20 <yoyo[RKN]> PovAddict_ : question regarding boinc and files. I want to send a file every 2 weeks to the client. Is there a way other than the application or the workunit?

12:22 <yoyo[RKN]> somthing like e.g. a file with the known primes

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13:36 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: I think the workunit would be the best way

13:37 <yoyo[RKN]> so use the same name in a couple of workunites together with <sticky> and <no_delete>?

13:38 <PovAddict> yes

13:38 <PovAddict> and preferably also report_on_rpc

13:38 <PovAddict> so you know when to delete it

13:39 <PovAddict> you may need to hack the scheduler code to do the deletions, but it's good to start using report_on_rpc even before you do something useful with that reporting :)

13:40 <yoyo[RKN]> ok

13:41 <yoyo[RKN]> must I set also <locality_scheduling/> in config.xml as stated here http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/LocalityScheduling ?

13:41 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1_4l> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

13:42 <PovAddict> locality scheduling is quite a mess by itself; and I don't think you need it for this

13:42 <PovAddict> since you won't have a set of workunits using file A, others using B

13:43 <PovAddict> you'll just have a file that gets updated periodically and all workunits use

13:43 <yoyo[RKN]> ok

13:44 <yoyo[RKN]> 2 more questions regarding files for different use cases

13:44 <Romulus> I don't have any Stacks in your homedir

13:45 <yoyo[RKN]> can I get an input file back as result?

13:45 <PovAddict> nope; why would you want to?

13:45 <PovAddict> input files can't be modified anyway

13:46 <yoyo[RKN]> the input files contains hundreds of jobs. The application takes one out of it, calculates something and takes the next. Until e.g. 1h is over. Now I want the remaining inputfile back

13:47 <PovAddict> if you want to modify it, make the app read the input file and write the modified version to a new name, which is configured as an output file

13:47 <PovAddict> if you modify an input file, the client will refuse to run other workunits because the MD5 won't match; or it will re-download the fil

13:47 <PovAddict> e

13:48 <yoyo[RKN]> so I must copy the remaining input file to a new output file, which I can get back. ok

13:50 <yoyo[RKN]> next question

13:52 <yoyo[RKN]> my application creates a result.dat and is able to use this result.dat as input to optimize the simulation. So is it possible, that result.dat stays on the client and can be reused as input for the next wu? This next wu will afterwards extend result.dat for the next simulation and so on.

13:53 <PovAddict> hmm... I had a similar question; I'd say ask David Anderson about it

13:53 <PovAddict> he said it *should* work, but I don't think anybody has tried it before

13:54 <yoyo[RKN]> I remember,it was on one of the boinc mailing lists

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14:00 <PovAddict> wait, is input.dat ever downloaded?

14:00 <PovAddict> or is it generated by the first workunit the client runs?

14:01 <yoyo[RKN]> it is generated by the first wu

14:01 <PovAddict> ah then it's exactly like my question to the list

14:01 <yoyo[RKN]> yes, just read it

14:01 <yoyo[RKN]> did you tried it?

14:02 <PovAddict> nope

14:05 <yoyo[RKN]> an other point

14:05 <Romulus> Yeah right. C. :-)

14:07 <yoyo[RKN]> the application which I will wrap expect a sub directory in the folder where it is started, means in slot directory. Is there a boin way to create/send files into subdirectories?

14:07 <PovAddict> your wrapper should do that...

14:08 <yoyo[RKN]> ok, so no Boinc standard way for this

14:50 <wdsmia_w> some days I really hate oracle

14:51 <PovAddict> there's people who would say "only some days?"

15:04 <PovAddict> &tiny http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

15:04 <Romulus> PovAddict: http://tinyurl.com/2wo6o

15:05 <CoderForLife> howdy

15:06 <CoderForLife> most days everyone hates Oracle, wdsmia_w

15:07 <CoderForLife> and then Oracle buys them, and solves that problem

15:07 <hawmps> lol

15:08 * CoderForLife gets home from the dentist

15:08 * PovAddict gets in panic just for reading that d-word

15:08 <CoderForLife> it tough when you use the dentist to get out of w@#%

15:10 <hawmps> lol - again

15:14 <PovAddict> &list utilities

15:14 <Romulus> PovAddict: apply, echo, ignore, last, shuffle, and success

15:15 * CoderForLife goes to the kitchen to try out his freshly brightened teeth

15:25 * freelarry offers CoderForLife his special coffee - the one with purple foodcoloring in it

15:25 <freelarry> looks really neat under black light

15:26 <freelarry> ;)

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16:32 <xcamel> re-hi

16:46 <wdsmia_w> Yawn

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16:52 <CoderForLife> what happened?

16:52 <MTughan> You joined.

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16:52 <CoderForLife> musta been freelarry's special coffee

16:53 <CoderForLife> one sip of the purple brew, and I was out

16:54 <CoderForLife> you around, freelarry?

16:55 <CoderForLife> guess not

16:55 * PovAddict finishes updating his build.sh

16:55 <PovAddict> takes ages to run configure scripts on Windoze

16:56 <xcamel> er winduhs..

17:00 <xcamel> at least it didn't get too cold today..

17:02 <xcamel> another single fscking trader bumps light sweet crude over $100 and the press has an orgasm...

17:06 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

17:06 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 24.8F / -4.0C | Humidity: 59% | Pressure: 30.08in / 1018.5hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy this evening...then mostly cloudy with snow showers developing. Snow accumulation 1 to 2 inches. Near steady temperatures in the lower 20s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 90 percent.; Wednesday - (2 more messages)

17:06 <CoderForLife> &more

17:06 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Mostly cloudy with snow showers in the morning... then partly sunny with a slight chance of snow showers in the afternoon. Total accumulation of 1 to 3 inches. Highs in the upper 20s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of snow 90 percent.; Wednesday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows 10 to 15. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.; Snow Advisory for Hamilton County in effect until 9:00 (1 more message)

17:06 <CoderForLife> &more

17:06 <Romulus> CoderForLife: AM EST on February 20, 2008;

17:06 <CoderForLife> they're saying snow will start at 3:00AM

17:11 <xcamel> probably..

17:11 <xcamel> looks very light..

17:12 <CoderForLife> that's what They Say...

17:13 <MTughan> Uh... Any coffee that looks neat under blacklight probably isn't safe...

17:13 <CoderForLife> just enough to cause our typical demolition derbys

17:14 <CoderForLife> that's exactly what I was thinking MTughan, just before I passed out and lost connection

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17:42 <MTughan> PovAddict: What, ticked off? :D

17:42 <MTughan> Hey zombie67. Want to try the 64-bit RS?

17:47 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:47 <MTughan> 'lo Doug

17:48 <wdsmia> *lo Michael

17:48 <wdsmia> &weather 50319

17:48 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 20F / -7C | Humidity: 71% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Bitterly cold. A chance of snow early in the evening...then a slight chance of snow late in the evening. Breezy. Low 5 to 10 below. West wind 5 to 10 mph increasing to north 15 to 25 mph after midnight. Chance of snow 50 (2 more messages)

17:49 <wdsmia> &more

17:49 <Romulus> wdsmia: percent. Lowest wind chill readings 20 below to 30 below zero after midnight.; Wednesday - Sunny. Bitterly cold. High zero to 5 above. North wind 5 to 15 mph. Lowest wind chill readings 20 below to 30 below zero in the morning.; Wednesday Night - Partly cloudy. Bitterly cold. Low 5 to 10 below. East wind around 5 mph.; Wind Chill Advisory for Polk County in effect until 9:00 AM CST on February 20, (1 more message)

17:49 <wdsmia> &more

17:49 <Romulus> wdsmia: 2008;

17:50 <wdsmia> Brrr

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17:50 * xcamel yawns again - with gusto

17:51 <xcamel> MT - will repete pick up the 64 bit version?

17:51 <xcamel> ...linux, that is...

17:52 <PovAddict> I think it's a Mac binary

17:52 <xcamel> oh..

17:52 <MTughan> Yeah, Mac.

17:52 <PovAddict> there is a Linux/x86_64 already (for llr)

17:53 <MTughan> This is just sieve too.

17:53 <PovAddict> I got my damned app to compile now \o/

17:53 <PovAddict> now I'll delete everything and try again with my automated scripts... if it fails, it was just luck this time

17:54 <PovAddict> takes quite long...

17:55 <PovAddict> SDL configure script is particularly long

17:56 <freelarry> PovAddict you want to try and compile on one of my machines?

17:56 <PovAddict> by the time I configure and compile *both* zlib and libpng, the SDL configure script is still going!

17:58 <PovAddict> yep, works!

17:58 <PovAddict> it's a 2MB .exe...

17:58 <PovAddict> stripped symbols: 563KB

17:59 <PovAddict> upx'd, default settings: 199KB

18:00 <PovAddict> 182KB

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18:06 <MTughan> Hey, I think AI is exporting stats again...

18:07 <MTughan> Got AI credits yesterday, but haven't crunched any AI for a number of days.

18:08 <MTughan> Yep, their site is back up, if a little slow.

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18:45 <wdsmia> &ping

18:45 <Romulus> pong

18:45 * KathrynM is back (gone 08:41:59)

18:45 * KathrynM yawns

18:45 <KathrynM> mornin'

18:46 <MTughan> 'lo Kathy

18:46 <wdsmia> morning KathrynM

18:48 * KathrynM smacks self in head.

18:48 <PovAddict> why this time?

18:48 <KathrynM> It's gonna be a long day.

18:48 <wdsmia> could have had a v-8?

18:48 <KathrynM> At least I realized why somethign didn't work before I sent a stupid email.

18:49 <KathrynM> http://pastebin.ca/910489

18:49 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Stuff - post number 910489 (at pastebin.ca)

18:49 * KathrynM sighs

18:50 <PovAddict> seems OK except boinc.log needs the same was-boinc-running logic

18:50 <KathrynM> exactly

18:51 <KathrynM> I was about to email Eric with my usual "Uh, it didn't work for me" email

18:51 <PovAddict> and I wonder... is logrotate smart enough to rotate both together?

18:51 <PovAddict> or would this happen:

18:51 <PovAddict> boinc stops, boinc.log gets rotated, boinc starts, immediately gets stopped again, error.log gets rotated, boinc gets started again

18:52 <KathrynM> dunno

18:52 <KathrynM> I didn't write the boinc-running logic

18:52 <PovAddict> I mean even without that

18:52 <KathrynM> Eric sent it to me yesterday

18:52 <PovAddict> with just plain /etc/init.d/boinc stop

18:52 <KathrynM> hold on

18:54 <KathrynM> here's what cron has been sending

18:54 <KathrynM> /etc/cron.daily/logrotate:

18:54 <KathrynM> Stopping BOINC client daemon:  [  OK  ][  OK  ]

18:54 <KathrynM> Starting BOINC client as a daemon:  [  OK  ]

18:54 <Romulus> slaps PovAddic1's ISP with frozen salmon

19:12 <CoderForLife> morning KathrynM

19:12 <KathrynM> mornin

19:13 <CoderForLife> it's about 7:15pm here in the Buckeye State

19:13 <KathrynM> evenin' for you then :)

19:13 <CoderForLife> yup

19:14 * CoderForLife pops up off the couch to tend the fire in the fireplace

19:15 <CoderForLife> got to keep a large carbon footprint, ya know

19:19 <CoderForLife> back

19:22 <xcamel> hope the clouds clear off a bit..

19:22 <CoderForLife> our clipper draws nearer

19:23 <xcamel> lunar eclipse tonight..

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19:24 <xcamel> 'lo Ed

19:24 <efc> Hey

19:28 <MTughan> PovAddict: How did you download YouTube videos again?

19:29 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

19:31 <efc> There's a plugin for firefox that makes it reasonably easy

19:31 <efc> DownloadHelper

19:31 <MTughan> He had a link or something.

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19:40 <CoderForLife> wandering away - goodnight boincfolk

19:41 <MTughan> Night.

19:41 <xcamel> later Don

19:42 <wdsmia> cya Don

19:42 <efc> "A fully configured Skulltrail system tops out at just under $17,000." Ring it all up, this will be on Xcamel's Mastercard...

19:43 <xcamel> yeah... right.

19:44 <xcamel> my little tiny quads are kicking @$$ just fine...

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19:55 <spawny> I want install boinc on a multiboot machin (xp/ubuntu), and I would like create only one directory for the both, it is possible?

19:55 <MTughan> No, because they use different programs to run.

19:56 <spawny> thank you

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20:45 <xcamel> eclipse should be starting about now...

20:46 <xcamel> for those on the east coast..

20:46 <wdsmia> to many clouds here :(

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21:21 <MTughan> TM!

21:24 <Tank_Master> Yo

21:24 <Tank_Master> apparently my comp wont run at such a high of speed with 4 RAM sticks at it will 2

21:24 <MTughan> Nice...

21:24 <Tank_Master> files got corrupted

21:24 <Tank_Master> not so nice

21:24 <MTughan> True.

21:24 <PovAddict> who wanted to download youtube videos?

21:25 <MTughan> I did.

21:25 <PovAddict> http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar/youtube.php?video_id=xxxxxxxx

21:25 <MTughan> Thanks.

21:25 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1_:R> (at stuff.povaddict.com.ar)

21:25 <PovAddict> it does just a redirect, so my poor bandwidth won't limit you

21:25 <PovAddict> also, let me know if it doesn't work

21:25 <MTughan> Need to find the video again...

21:25 <PovAddict> last time I gave the link to somebody, youtube had changed parts of their page and my regex had stopped working

21:29 <MTughan> PovAddict: http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar/youtube.php?video_id=TVboOdX9icA

21:29 <MTughan> swfArgs not found

21:29 <PovAddict> again they moved that around?

21:29 <MTughan> Guess so.

21:32 <PovAddict> weird, now it works :-\

21:32 <PovAddict> I didn't change anything

21:33 <MTughan> Still have the error here.

21:33 <MTughan> There it goes... WTF?

21:33 <PovAddict> there's extra crap that gets added to the line I'm parsing

21:33 <PovAddict> randomly

21:33 <PovAddict> sometimes it's there, sometimes not

21:34 <MTughan> Not sure if this is advanced regex or not... I want to match numbers within a string, but not when they are between brackets.

21:34 <PovAddict> [^(]\d+[^)]

21:36 <MTughan> Basically what I had... I've figured out another way. All numbers I want are also padded with spaces, so that helps.

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21:37 <PovAddict> MTughan: ok, now optionally matching the extra "e": "h", on the swfArgs, so it should always work now

21:37 <PovAddict> unless there is *more* stuff that randomly appears

21:37 <MTughan> All right, sounds good.

21:38 <PovAddict> it's JSON, I don't really know why I'm bothering with regex...

21:38 <MTughan> Heh.

21:38 <PovAddict> I should match /var swfArgs = {(.*)};/ and pass the captured string to PHP's JSON module

21:38 <zombie67> holy crap!  2 hours to replace a HD in an iBook!  Check it out,  Count the # of screws!  http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Mac/iBook-G4-14-Inch/Hard-Drive/84/14/Page-1/Battery

21:38 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1_:a> (at www.ifixit.com)

21:39 <PovAddict> 14 pages?!

21:39 <MTughan> Take off the keyboard, wireless card at least...

21:39 <PovAddict> whoops

21:39 <zombie67> very simple pages with pictures.  page through it.

21:39 <MTughan> Most of it is just getting the bottom case of.

21:39 <MTughan> off*

21:40 <PovAddict> my new youtube regex had a new capturing group, made indexes shift...

21:40 <PovAddict> made it non-capturing now

21:40 <PovAddict> lol

21:40 <PovAddict> my dad is testing all the default ringtones on his iPhone

21:41 <MTughan> Wow, and the top case too? I like the MacBook here...

21:41 <MTughan> Battery, a metal plate, and pull the SATA drive out.

21:41 <zombie67> 53 screws!  And that's the easy part!

21:42 <MTughan> Heh.

21:42 <xcamel> but does it blend?

21:42 <zombie67> separating the bottom was the hardest...without breaking the plastic

21:42 <PovAddict> lol xcamel

21:42 <Romulus> sethy how old are you?

21:42 <MTughan> rofl

21:42 <zombie67> MT: can I wait one more day before testing?

21:42 <MTughan> zombie67: You had to follow those directions?

21:43 <zombie67> yep

21:43 <MTughan> Heh, sure. Working on Java now anyway.

21:43 <zombie67> Wonder how much apple would have charged me....

21:56 <xcamel> laterz..

21:56 * xcamel is away: Gone away for now.

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21:56 <MTughan> Bye Jay.

22:03 <Tank_Master> gn xcam

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22:37 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977

22:38 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 54F / 12C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 31.13in / 1054hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: Variable | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a chance of rain. Patchy dense fog. Visibility one quarter mile or less at times. Lows 40 to 50. Light winds. Chance of measurable precipitation 50 percent.; Wednesday - Patchy dense fog in the morning. Mostly (2 more messages)

22:38 <Soul_keeper> &more

22:38 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: cloudy with a chance of showers and slight chance of thunderstorms. Visibility one quarter mile or less at times in the morning. Highs around 59 in the western valleys to 50 to 55 near the foothills. Light winds becoming southwest 15 mph in the afternoon. Chance of measurable precipitation 40 percent.; Wednesday Night - Partly cloudy with a chance of showers and slight chance of thunderstorms in (1 more message)

22:38 <Soul_keeper> &more

22:38 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: the evening...then mostly cloudy with a slight chance of showers after midnight. Lows 40 to 48. Light winds. Chance of measurable precipitation 40 percent.;

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22:56 <PovAddict> MTughan: now using JSON

22:56 <PovAddict> code is so much simpler

22:56 <MTughan> Cool.

22:57 <PovAddict> http://rafb.net/p/WBXlCI95.html

22:57 <Romulus> Title: Nopaste - No description (at rafb.net)

22:58 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

22:58 <Tank_Master> &more

22:58 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 46.1F / 7.8C | Humidity: 85% | Pressure: 30.00in / 1015.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a chance of rain. Lows 35 to 40. South wind 5 to 10 mph.; Wednesday - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of rain showers in the morning. Highs around 50. Light wind.; Wednesday Night - Partly cloudy in the (1 more message)

22:58 <Romulus> Tank_Master: evening...then mostly cloudy. Lows 35 to 40. Southeast wind 5 to 15 mph.;

23:04 <PovAddict> AI forum is SO slow

23:04 <Romulus> don't even have an unfair advantage since I'm a bit down there.

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23:11 <Tank_Master> took me most of the day to download work for AI

23:14 <Tank_Master> and I hear the WUs are long and dont all work

23:15 <bryanUC> I have a farily OT question...but I'm hoping someone here will understand my question...and I hate ##php

23:16 <bryanUC> is it possible/how easy is it to take a .shtml template and convert it to the same thing, but .php (basically, how can I create protected update areas inside a php template file)

23:16 <MTughan> That will not be updated?

23:16 <bryanUC> it will be updated by the calls in the included file

23:17 <MTughan> What do you mean by protected update areas then?

23:17 <bryanUC> see, I think I'm confusing what the application (for a client) does....vs. what .shtml really does

23:17 <bryanUC> when you edit a .shtml page...you can edit anying, including anything brought in by a <#--include>, right?

23:17 <MTughan> You can edit anything in any file...

23:17 <bryanUC> ok

23:18 <bryanUC> then nm, the idea I have should work

23:18 <Tank_Master> bryanUC!

23:18 <bryanUC> thanks :)

23:18 <bryanUC> hi Tank_Master!

23:18 <Tank_Master> sup?

23:18 <Romulus> All snow right now, but still not getting a bunch of '502 upstream proxy errors'

23:18 <Tank_Master> hows the 64bit commin?

23:18 <Tank_Master> no fin

23:18 <Tank_Master> fun*

23:18 <bryanUC> heh, haven't messed iwth it much

23:18 <MTughan> bryanUC: Hear anything from Geoff about ASM? Or did you try to contact him

23:18 <MTughan> ?

23:18 <bryanUC> I'm hoping tomorrow to release a new 640bit

23:18 <Tank_Master> it shows ;)

23:18 <Tank_Master> wow!

23:19 <bryanUC> MTughan: no..didn't really get in touch with him

23:19 <Tank_Master> 640bit?

23:19 <bryanUC> heh

23:19 <bryanUC> 64-bit

23:19 <Tank_Master> hehe

23:19 <bryanUC> for windows

23:19 <Tank_Master> for windows?

23:19 <bryanUC> then do 64-bit linux on thursday

23:19 <bryanUC> 32-bits on friday

23:19 <Tank_Master> I just might have to attache then

23:19 <bryanUC> small chunks

23:19 <MTughan> All right. I haven't gotten a chance to test the 64-bit Mac yet because zombie hasn't been ready for it.

23:19 <MTughan> I can give you the PPC if you want though. Although no ASM in it, all C.

23:20 <Tank_Master> He was here about n hr ago

23:20 <bryanUC> ah, wait, I found an email MTughan: The ppc32 will not be useful to RieselSieve because I don't have any

23:20 <bryanUC> ppc32 modular arithmetic code and the generic code only works for

23:20 <bryanUC> factors up to 252. The same applies to any CPU other than x86, x86-64

23:20 <bryanUC> and ppc64.

23:20 <MTughan> He was here, but he was busy.

23:20 <MTughan> So PPC is garbage then?

23:21 <bryanUC> basically

23:21 <bryanUC> until someone can code  the modular arithmetic code

23:21 <bryanUC> in 32-bit

23:21 <MTughan> All right. That leave the x86 ASM problem and x86_64, which may work.

23:21 <bryanUC> there is a The mac-x86-64 executables were built by Mark Rodenkirch (forum name

23:21 <bryanUC> rogue). As far as I know he just ran `make ARCH=x86-64' on a x86-64 Mac

23:21 <bryanUC> running OS X. No code changes are necessary because Apple use the same

23:21 <bryanUC> calling conventions as Linux.

23:21 <MTughan> How about LLR?

23:21 <bryanUC> heh, forget llr

23:21 <bryanUC> that's ALL ASM

23:21 <MTughan> That's fine.

23:21 <bryanUC> and there's nothing for ppc

23:21 <bryanUC> afaik

23:22 <MTughan> Hey, I got the ASM to compile for x86. Just crashed.

23:22 <bryanUC> so you'd run into the same problem...might get it to run, but not with any speed

23:22 <bryanUC> heh

23:22 <bryanUC> llr or sieve?

23:22 <MTughan> I wouldn't go for PPC this time if it's useless.

23:22 <MTughan> Sieve crashed.

23:22 <MTughan> Oh yeah, you left... I tracked down the problem.

23:22 <MTughan> The function call is actually a #define that calls some more ASM.

23:22 <bryanUC> it's just odd no one ever coded the modular arithmetic for ppc

23:23 <bryanUC> although...no more new ppc's, right?

23:23 <MTughan> I think it's that ASM that's crashing.

23:23 <MTughan> No more PPCs from Apple, no. But Motorola still makes the PPCs.

23:23 <MTughan> Most notably, in the PS3s.

23:23 <bryanUC> oh

23:23 <bryanUC> well hmm...we need to find an ASM coder for ppc then

23:23 <MTughan> The Cell processor is based on the PowerPC.

23:23 <bryanUC> esp. a ps3 developer

23:24 <MTughan> Anyway, do you have an LLR source?

23:24 <bryanUC> yes

23:24 <bryanUC> http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jean.penne/llr3/llr37bsrc.rar

23:24 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1_B4> (at perso.wanadoo.fr)

23:24 <MTughan> We'll see how good Mac can handle .RAR now...

23:25 <bryanUC> I can repackage if you need

23:25 <MTughan> Stuffit can handle it.

23:26 <Tank_Master> oh, stuffit, will ya?

23:27 <bryanUC> &insult me

23:27 <Romulus> me - You are nothing but a culturally-unsound ooze of impure hair.

23:27 <bryanUC> heh

23:27 <bryanUC> that didn't work as I thought it would

23:28 <bryanUC> &seen bryanUC

23:28 <Romulus> bryanUC: bryanUC was last seen in #boinc 17 seconds ago: <bryanUC> that didn't work as I thought it would

23:28 <bryanUC> &seen my_daddy

23:28 <Romulus> bryanUC: I have not seen my_daddy.

23:28 <bryanUC> heh, ok, I will leave the bot alone now

23:28 <Tank_Master> lol

23:28 <bryanUC> rieselbot is funnier

23:28 <Tank_Master> & seen Your_Mom

23:28 <Romulus> Tank_Master: I have not seen Your_Mom.

23:28 <bryanUC> lol

23:29 <bryanUC> &seen my_feet

23:29 <Romulus> bryanUC: I have not seen my_feet.

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