IRC logs of #boinc for Sunday, 2008-02-24

00:03 <efc> old machine will finish its WU imminently

00:15 <efc> done!

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00:53 <Tank_Master> germaticly speeking, what is the modifyer in the first part of words like "hex" and "quad" tri"

00:53 <Tank_Master> called?

00:54 <Tank_Master> hexagonal

00:54 <Tank_Master> what is the trem for the "hex" part?

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00:55 <Tank_Master> hey

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01:00 <Tank_Master> Intel may come out with a sexcore CPU this year!

01:01 <Wabbit98> free sex?

01:01 <Tank_Master> ?

01:01 <Tank_Master> dont you know how much sex is?

01:01 <Tank_Master> hex and sex are interchangeable

01:01 <Wabbit98> oh

01:02 <Tank_Master> both meen 6

01:02 <Wabbit98> I was thinking something naughtier

01:02 <Tank_Master> heh

01:02 <Tank_Master> I know, thats why I chose it ;)

01:09 <Tank_Master> gn

01:10 <Soul_keeper> amd is saying 8 core cpu's next year

01:10 <Wabbit98> 34 cores

01:10 <Wabbit98> 1 million billion cores

01:11 <Tank_Master> Intel sais 8core CPUs this year

01:11 <Soul_keeper> cores could very well double every year from here on out ...

01:11 <Tank_Master> no

01:11 <Tank_Master> 2010/11 will see a redicly diferent design modeled more after a GPU

01:11 <Soul_keeper> it is conceivable and within the capability of moore's law

01:11 <Tank_Master> with hundereds of cores

01:11 <Romulus> slaps own head -- hard

01:12 <Tank_Master> but all simple core, not the comples ones we have today

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01:13 <Soul_keeper> well let's see 2011 is 3yrs off, if we have 8 this year ... then 16, then 32, then 64, then 128 ...

01:14 <Soul_keeper> even if they were all each no more powerfull than a 1GHz athlon  that would be impressive

01:14 <Tank_Master> 8 - 2008; 16 - 2009; 32 - 2010

01:14 <Tank_Master> Intel is taking 3Tflops per chip

01:14 <Wabbit98> hmmmm

01:14 <Wabbit98> you are all thinking to sanely

01:15 <Tank_Master> today it takes 10 xeon quadcores to get .25TFlops today

01:16 <Soul_keeper> well highend vid cards are offering over 1Tflops right now

01:16 <Tank_Master> :)

01:16 <Tank_Master> amazing, aint it?

01:16 <Soul_keeper> yeah

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01:17 <Soul_keeper> i want a radeon 3870  vid card

01:18 <Soul_keeper> suzy orman would tell me i can't afford it tho ...

01:18 <Wabbit67> screw orman

01:18 <Wabbit67> not literally she is ugly

01:18 <Soul_keeper> she looks better than hilary atleast

01:19 <Wabbit67> I look better than Hilary

01:19 <Tank_Master> who?

01:19 <Wabbit67> TM looks better than Hilary

01:19 <Tank_Master> :P

01:19 <Soul_keeper> heh

01:19 * Tank_Master is starting to thing Wabbit67 is gay

01:19 <Wabbit67> I am not gay

01:19 <Wabbit67> I am straight like a line

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01:20 <Wabbit67> Hilary is just

01:20 <Wabbit67> well you knowq

01:20 <Soul_keeper> i'm voting for mccain

01:20 <Wabbit67> I'm voting Morbo

01:20 <Soul_keeper> tax and spend liberals scare me

01:21 <Tank_Master> Im voting for the n00batartian

01:22 <Tank_Master> well, as long as obama doesnt win that canidate

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01:34 <AlexJones> i'm having some difficulties getting my netbsd system onto

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01:35 <AlexJones> wondering if someone could assist me... all of the reference data with regard to XML seems to be for seti@home, not sure whether that makes a difference but I could use some help.

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01:57 <efc> Problems with the interface?

02:01 <efc> why the *$#$ does the IRS want to know my "occupation"

02:03 <Soul_keeper> tell them you're a dictator

02:03 <efc> haha

02:03 <efc> "Terrorist"

02:03 <Wabbit67> you work for CNN

02:04 <efc> or just "Taxpayer"

02:05 <Soul_keeper> sounds like an occupation to me

02:05 <efc> i don't know my occupation

02:05 <Soul_keeper> just put down  "slave labor"

02:05 <efc> i fill out paperwork

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02:37 <efc> Great, I can pay the state by CC, of course there is a "convenience fee" buried down in the small print

02:38 <Wabbit67> of course

02:38 <Wabbit67> big brother is watching

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02:43 <AlexJones> no, no problems with interface, it just says netbsd-i386elf not recognized

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03:36 <AlexJones> ok, so on another system

03:36 <AlexJones> i managed to attach, but the systme doesn't seem to be doing anything or even using CPU time

03:37 <AlexJones> boinc_cmd --host localhost --get_state

03:37 <AlexJones> how do i kick this into operation

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04:23 <TheGasGiant> hola

04:27 <FreeLarry58> howdy paul

04:27 <FreeLarry58> long time no see

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04:41 <TheGasGiant> hi Larry!

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04:51 <TheGasGiant> &weather ymml

04:51 <Romulus> TheGasGiant: Temperature: 59°F / 15°C | Humidity: 55% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h | Updated: 8:30 PM EST; Scattered Clouds. High:68 F. / 20 C.; Clear. Low:50 F. / 10 C.; Clear. High:73 F. / 23 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:51 F. / 11 C.; Partly Cloudy. High:71 F. / 22 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:51 F. / 11 (1 more message)

04:55 <FreeLarry58> humm TheGasGiant you having connection problems?

04:55 <FreeLarry58> see side if not

04:56 <FreeLarry58> oops sorry just noticed the underline

04:56 <TheGasGiant> thanks for the offer :)

04:57 <FreeLarry58> say the word and i'll pull it from board before i toss it out

04:57 <TheGasGiant> sell it on ebay?

04:57 <FreeLarry58> you'll have to provide own hs and mb

04:57 <FreeLarry58> nah to much trouble

04:57 <TheGasGiant> i don't have a mobo to suit

04:57 <FreeLarry58> check around if you want still got a while before i act

04:58 <TheGasGiant> k :)

04:58 <FreeLarry58> vid card went out from that mb yesterday so replaced last night - seems to work

04:58 <TheGasGiant> i had the psu on this machine die last Monday

04:58 <FreeLarry58> will warn you that processor runs Hot

04:59 <TheGasGiant> was hoping it took out the mobo or cpu..but it didn't

04:59 <FreeLarry58> yah this machine had ps and mb die due to room getting to hot as someone closed the door to room to keep granddaughter out

04:59 <TheGasGiant> you mean hotter than an overclocked 3.2GHz Prescott

04:59 <FreeLarry58> now the vidcard failed too

04:59 <TheGasGiant> damn

04:59 <FreeLarry58> lol i think it is a prescott

05:00 <FreeLarry58> except socket 775

05:00 <TheGasGiant> were pentium Ds prescotts were they?

05:01 <TheGasGiant> ahhh

05:01 <FreeLarry58> think they were as came out after socket 468?

05:01 <TheGasGiant> yeah..

05:01 <TheGasGiant> (478)

05:01 <FreeLarry58> that was second guess

05:02 <TheGasGiant> hehehe

05:02 <TheGasGiant> how's the rest of your farm?

05:02 <FreeLarry58> ohh gaining a few slowly

05:03 <TheGasGiant> wow...

05:03 <FreeLarry58> the one that i replaced was with a quad q6600 right after i put together a dual e6750

05:03 <TheGasGiant> oh my.....!

05:03 <TheGasGiant> got a link to them?

05:04 <FreeLarry58>

05:04 <Romulus> <> (at

05:04 <FreeLarry58> one duplicate and 4 that don't exist anymor or is it 5?

05:05 <FreeLarry58> thik 4

05:05 <TheGasGiant> looking...

05:05 <FreeLarry58> quad went down for 36 hrs while i got a new vidcard to put in so should come back rapidly

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05:06 <TheGasGiant> which mobo is in q6600?

05:06 <FreeLarry58> humm a p35 chipset for 100 usd as last of line for it

05:07 <FreeLarry58> from -- looking

05:07 <FreeLarry58> gigabyte p35 dls

05:07 <FreeLarry58> dsl

05:07 <TheGasGiant> nice..overclocked?

05:07 <FreeLarry58> ds3L

05:07 <FreeLarry58> nope

05:07 <Romulus> i screwed up her bad knee

05:08 <FreeLarry58> case doesn't have good air flow

05:08 <TheGasGiant> they overclock real nice

05:08 <FreeLarry58> lol i noticed from some forums but don't want to cook it just yet

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05:08 <TheGasGiant> fari enough too

05:08 <FreeLarry58> stock hs

05:09 <FreeLarry58> did you look at detail for the q6600?

05:09 <FreeLarry58> thats at 2.4 ghz

05:09 <TheGasGiant> just got there

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05:09 <FreeLarry58>

05:09 <Romulus> <> (at

05:10 <TheGasGiant> that page now

05:10 <FreeLarry58> the e6750 nice too but if you ask me for cruncher i would say go q6600

05:10 <TheGasGiant> jsut a few projects on the quad  ;)

05:11 <FreeLarry58> each machine has 1 gig memory per core too

05:11 <TheGasGiant> nice...which memory?

05:11 <FreeLarry58> lol well cutting down currently to get ready for poem run next month

05:11 <FreeLarry58> ddr2

05:12 <FreeLarry58> just regular overcounter stuff i think 667mhz

05:12 <TheGasGiant> 667?

05:12 <TheGasGiant> cool

05:12 <TheGasGiant> timing 5-5-5-15?

05:12 <FreeLarry58> the quad only needed 800

05:12 <FreeLarry58> humm wahtever the spd requested i think

05:13 <FreeLarry58> like i said stock settings

05:13 * FreeLarry58 is getting lazy with playing

05:13 <TheGasGiant> blasphemy!

05:14 <TheGasGiant> the e6750 has just a few projects as well

05:14 <FreeLarry58> lol had to cut back to help wifiy get out of financial trouble

05:14 <FreeLarry58> yup  just a few

05:14 <TheGasGiant> again?

05:15 <FreeLarry58> didn't you notice the change in malaria? yup she learning this time tho as she was out of work for 6 months

05:15 <FreeLarry58> and learned that i just don't have it to make up for her bills

05:16 <FreeLarry58> so she's in default and had several cards closed by issuers this time

05:16 <TheGasGiant> oh mean she is learning fiscal responsibility!?!

05:16 <FreeLarry58> by others wielding clubs

05:16 <TheGasGiant> eek

05:16 <FreeLarry58> yup banned from 2 stores and mc and visa both upset with her

05:17 <FreeLarry58> crdit report looks very poor now also for her

05:17 <TheGasGiant> not effecting your credit rating is it?

05:17 <FreeLarry58> nope mines still averaging 750

05:17 <TheGasGiant> is 750 good?

05:18 <FreeLarry58> i make sure the bills that need to be paid with my name on it is paid 820 the highest i think

05:18 <TheGasGiant> ahh..good then :)

05:18 <FreeLarry58> so not bad

05:18 <FreeLarry58> much better than her high of 520 and low of 460

05:19 <TheGasGiant> eek

05:19 * FreeLarry58 and hers is still slipping downwards till she gets her first paycheck to help pay some of them

05:19 <TheGasGiant> eek

05:20 <FreeLarry58> i paid 2 of her low balance cards off last month for her - think i can help with one high balance one - will probably do the 30% interest one

05:20 <TheGasGiant> eek..30%!  that highway robbery!

05:21 <FreeLarry58> only 2500 now as i paid enough on it last month to get her out of catch 22 for overbalance fees

05:21 <FreeLarry58> yup default rate

05:21 <TheGasGiant> ahh..kick you while your down

05:21 <FreeLarry58> overbalance and late payments for her

05:22 <FreeLarry58> yeah and capital one has p/**-+ me off with thier latest business model decisions so i don't have them anymore

05:22 <TheGasGiant> brb..need to give cat a pill

05:22 <FreeLarry58> and last 2 months have had to call to complain as they still trying to rack me for more even tho i paid them off in dec

05:22 <FreeLarry58> k

05:24 <TheGasGiant> back

05:24 <ELGono> morning dudes

05:25 <TheGasGiant> heya mate

05:25 <FreeLarry58> wb and morning ELGono

05:25 <TheGasGiant> all well in Germany?

05:25 <ELGono> now it is really well!!

05:25 <ELGono> just shut down last noisy hd

05:25 <TheGasGiant> it is?  you getting laid?

05:25 <TheGasGiant> geek!

05:25 * ELGono enjoying the silence now

05:26 <TheGasGiant> hehehe :)

05:26 <ELGono> made my sgi's diskless with a third sgi server down in the basement hosting the loud scsi disks

05:26 <TheGasGiant> ahh..big geek!

05:26 <ELGono> and just few mins ago i changed 8gb linux server bootdisk

05:27 <ELGono> the indy is real quiete .... even the powerfan doesn't move .... temperature controlled

05:28 <TheGasGiant> water cooling system still make noise?

05:28 <ELGono> thats running on my main box

05:28 <ELGono> still running

05:28 <ELGono> may be 5 years now

05:28 <TheGasGiant> nice job

05:29 <ELGono> yepp engel just found the 2 other copper blocks for cpu we made back then

05:29 <ELGono> now he wants to his pc quiete too

05:30 <ELGono> just updated his box from P3 800 to AMD64 3000+

05:30 <TheGasGiant> nice upgrade

05:30 <ELGono> hehe and i got the P3 for free (with board/mem/graka)

05:30 <CoderForLife> morning folks

05:30 <ELGono> wich will be the update for my father (running P3 450 / 440BX)

05:30 <TheGasGiant> heya CFL :)

05:30 <ELGono> lo Don

05:31 <CoderForLife> hi Paul =)

05:31 <TheGasGiant> nice upgrade

05:31 <CoderForLife> Hello J-man

05:32 <CoderForLife> I slept in this morning

05:32 <TheGasGiant> warming up yet Don?

05:32 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

05:32 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 22.8F / -5.1C | Humidity: 85% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1021.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny this morning...then cloudy with a slight chance of snow showers this afternoon. Highs in the upper 30s. Light and variable winds...becoming light southwest winds late this morning and afternoon. Chance of snow 20 (1 more message)

05:32 <TheGasGiant> i was surprised when I logged on and you weren't here ;)

05:32 <ELGono> &weather meiningen,germany

05:32 <Romulus> ELGono: Temperature: 45°F / 7°C | Humidity: 78% | Pressure: 30.22in / 1023hPa | Conditions: | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 4mph / 7km/h | Updated: 11:00 AM CET; Scattered Clouds. High:53 F. / 12 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:41 F. / 5 C.; Chance of Rain. High:50 F. / 10 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:42 F. / 6 C.; Chance of Rain. High:50 F. / 10 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:42 F. / 6 C.;

05:33 <ELGono> blue sky, 15C on balkony, birds singing

05:33 <CoderForLife> my brain was in screensaver mode

05:33 <ELGono> feels like may

05:33 <CoderForLife> &more

05:33 <Romulus> CoderForLife: percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then clearing. Lows in the lower 20s. Southwest winds around 5 mph.; Monday - Mostly sunny. Not as cold with highs in the upper 40s. South winds 5 to 10 mph.;

05:34 <CoderForLife> I was extra tired due to dealing with ice on the driveway yesterday

05:34 <ELGono> can imagine, that requires high concentration

05:35 <TheGasGiant> ice outside...never!

05:35 <CoderForLife> tis true

05:35 <FreeLarry58> well time for me to say

05:35 <FreeLarry58> &nn all

05:35 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

05:35 <CoderForLife> about 1 inch thick

05:35 <ELGono> good night larry

05:35 <CoderForLife> cya FL

05:35 <TheGasGiant> bye larry..good seeing you!

05:35 <TheGasGiant> erm...chatting

05:36 <CoderForLife> typing...

05:36 <TheGasGiant> yeah...

05:37 <CoderForLife> exchanging ASCII data streams...

05:37 * CoderForLife thinks - that sounds bad

05:37 <TheGasGiant> as long as it's that and not bodily fluids!

05:38 <CoderForLife> zackly

05:38 <TheGasGiant> no new quad core in your stable yet?

05:38 <CoderForLife> so how are things in DE and AU?

05:38 <CoderForLife> not yet

05:38 <CoderForLife> just finished my 2007 tax returns yesterday

05:39 <TheGasGiant> AU is ok...psu died, didn't take out mobo or back t2008-02-24T08:56:09  *** Romulus has joined #boinc

08:57 <xcamel> &weather 12074

08:57 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 20.5F / -6.4C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1021.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Highs in the mid 30s. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 16. Southwest winds around 5 mph in the evening...becoming light and variable.; Monday - Partly sunny. Highs in the upper 30s. South winds (1 more message)

08:57 <xcamel> &more

08:57 <Romulus> xcamel: around 5 mph.;

08:57 <wdsmia> &weather 50319

08:57 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 20F / -7C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 30.10in / 1019hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. High in the upper 30s. South wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then mostly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of rain after midnight. Not as cold. Low in the upper (1 more message)

08:57 <wdsmia> &more

08:57 <Romulus> wdsmia: 20s. South wind 5 to 10 mph.; Monday - A chance of snow or rain in the morning...then snow in the afternoon. Snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches. High in the mid 30s. Southeast wind around 10 mph shifting to the northeast in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation 90 percent.;

09:00 <xcamel> ran out of space on that drive..

09:00 <xcamel> :-(

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09:25 <xcamel> 'lo Doug

09:25 <wdsmia> *lo Jay

09:30 <xcamel> looks like we're in for a nice day..

09:30 <xcamel> ad feb goes..

09:30 <wdsmia> maybe some ice will melt before it starts snowing again

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09:35 <xcamel> the rest of the week doesn't look so nice..

09:40 <xcamel> still have 2" of ice on my driveway

09:49 <wdsmia> gutters are frozen so the melt poors onto the entrances then refrezes overnight... mail man must hate me

09:58 <xcamel> lol

10:00 <ELGono> hehe better than a dog ;)

10:02 <wdsmia> most of the buildings downtown have the sidewalks roped off due to falling icecycles

10:03 <ELGono> hehe jay that would be something for you

10:04 <ELGono> german tv showing 580HP audi S6 avant

10:04 <CoderForLife> hello

10:04 <CoderForLife> back

10:04 <wdsmia> *lo Don

10:04 <CoderForLife> hey Doug

10:05 <CoderForLife> hello Jay

10:05 <CoderForLife> re-hi ELGono

10:05 <CoderForLife> did either wdsmia or xcamel get afflicted with the PAM auth update last week killing cron on F8?

10:05 <ELGono>

10:06 <Romulus> <> (at

10:07 * wdsmia is not running F8 on anything here

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10:08 <CoderForLife> k

10:08 <zombie67> &seen mtughan

10:08 <Romulus> zombie67: mtughan was last seen in #boinc 20 hours, 56 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <MTughan> Gotta go... Be back around 11:30-12:00PM.

10:08 <CoderForLife> cron was dead on my main server from sometime Tuesday until I found it Saturday morning

10:09 <wdsmia> ouch

10:09 <CoderForLife> that was one of the 4-letter words I used

10:10 <wdsmia> lol

10:11 <ELGono> hehe

10:11 <CoderForLife> I know Jay is running F8

10:12 <wdsmia> that could explain why rommie is overfilling logs and running out of disk space

10:13 <CoderForLife> certainly

10:13 <CoderForLife> not cron not running logrotate

10:13 <CoderForLife> er not not cron

10:14 <CoderForLife> the "fix" is easy - manually stop and start cron

10:15 <CoderForLife> seems like the PAM auth update pulls the run out from under cron

10:15 <CoderForLife> cron needs to be restarted after the PAM update

10:17 <CoderForLife> CRON (root): failed to open PAM security session: Module is unknown

10:17 <CoderForLife> crond: PAM [error: /lib/ version `LIBPAM_MODUTIL_1.1' not found (required by /lib/security/]

10:18 <CoderForLife>

10:18 <Romulus> <> (at

10:18 <CoderForLife> xcamel - check out the link above

10:19 <CoderForLife> bbiab

10:30 <xcamel> ok..

10:30 <xcamel> fc7 on kahuna

10:31 <xcamel> and it's the boinc logs..

10:31 <xcamel> had to clean some out..

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10:56 <xcamel> cotc?

11:01 <CoderOnTheCouch> yes?

11:01 <xcamel> just checking

11:01 <CoderOnTheCouch> did you see my "dead cron" postings?

11:01 <xcamel> yup

11:01 <CoderOnTheCouch> were you similarly afflicted?

11:01 <xcamel> haevn't hit that one yet..

11:01 <CoderOnTheCouch> ah

11:02 <CoderOnTheCouch> that one *hurt*

11:02 <xcamel> crond (pid 16526 2411) is running...

11:02 <CoderOnTheCouch> is it running cron tasks?

11:02 <xcamel> seems so..

11:02 <CoderOnTheCouch> or are you logging PAM auth errors?

11:03 <PovAddict> you know you have been BOINCing too long when:

11:03 <Romulus> <> (at

11:05 <CoderOnTheCouch> that's so twisted, Pov

11:05 <xcamel> have to check the fc8 boxes @ w^%$!

11:05 <xcamel> no problems here..

11:05 <CoderOnTheCouch> my cron broke last Tuesday when I did a yum update

11:06 <CoderOnTheCouch> yup - having cron not run can have very bad effects

11:08 <CoderOnTheCouch> "Ralph Nader running for president"

11:14 <PovAddict> &seen mtughan

11:14 <Romulus> PovAddict: mtughan was last seen in #boinc 22 hours, 1 minute, and 57 seconds ago: <MTughan> Gotta go... Be back around 11:30-12:00PM.

11:14 <PovAddict> :-/

11:15 <CoderOnTheCouch> he did not say which day...

11:15 * CoderOnTheCouch looks at the weather radar

11:15 <CoderOnTheCouch> Something Wicked This Way Comes

11:16 <xcamel> kill yum-updatesd is a good idea..

11:16 <CoderOnTheCouch> I never run that

11:16 <CoderOnTheCouch> I have a cron task to run yum update on Saturday mornings

11:17 <CoderOnTheCouch> unfortunately I ran it manually Tuesday PM

11:17 <CoderOnTheCouch> and didn't see the problem until I went to look how the Saturday update went

11:17 <CoderOnTheCouch> it didn't run on Saturday

11:18 <PovAddict> broken cron?

11:18 <CoderOnTheCouch> on F8

11:18 <CoderOnTheCouch> an update to PAM around Monday or Tuesday causes cron to stop working

11:18 <CoderOnTheCouch> also some reports of SSH failing

11:19 <CoderOnTheCouch> an F8 suicide bug

11:20 <CoderOnTheCouch> update seems to change the underlying PAM auth files, killing the daemons that are dependent on PAM

11:20 <CoderOnTheCouch> well - not "kill" - make them fail but continue to run

11:21 <CoderOnTheCouch> see my CFL link previously

11:21 <PovAddict> if they don't do anything useful, they're essentially dead

11:21 <xcamel> yup

11:21 <CoderOnTheCouch> agreed

11:21 <CoderOnTheCouch> zombies

11:22 <CoderOnTheCouch> Night of the Living Dead

11:22 <xcamel> makes me wonder about pete and repeat - and camel

11:22 <CoderOnTheCouch> you should probably just stop/start cron for good measure

11:22 <PovAddict> lol - repete?

11:22 <CoderOnTheCouch> his hot quads

11:23 <CoderOnTheCouch> twins that are quads

11:23 <CoderOnTheCouch> =)

11:23 <CoderOnTheCouch> I just did /sbin/service cron stop/start

11:24 <CoderOnTheCouch> and made an entry in my personal crontab to see that it went on time

11:24 <Soul_keeper> mmmmm belly dancers

11:24 <xcamel> K&K made it home safe - all kinds of treasures from italy..

11:24 <CoderOnTheCouch> ah "Surpise Day" =)

11:25 <CoderOnTheCouch> ... surprise ... (grumble)

11:25 <xcamel> bigtime - at about 6:00 AM

11:25 <CoderOnTheCouch> excellent

11:25 <xcamel> a rapid succession of "omg...omg...OMG!!!"

11:25 <CoderOnTheCouch> lol

11:26 <Soul_keeper> wow belly dancers coming to my city today

11:26 <CoderOnTheCouch> wife has rung the dinner bell -  bbiab

11:26 <Soul_keeper> they are on the news and got me "excited"

11:26 <xcamel> already used the disheasher..

11:27 <xcamel> er dishwasher even

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11:27 <xcamel> 'lo kutio

11:27 <kutio> hey xcamel

11:27 <xcamel> welcome even..

11:28 <kutio> it's the channel of the BOINC software

11:28 <kutio> ?

11:32 <Tank_Master> mostly

11:36 <kutio> i've got  a computer which is working on

11:37 <kutio> I subscribed for Cancer , proteome, AIDS and the default @home

11:37 <PovAddict> WCG?

11:37 <Romulus> I guess WCG is a, er, poor credit project, PovAddict

11:38 <PovAddict> xcamel: you may consider removing infobot plugin completely -.-

11:40 <kutio> which are the best project on Boinc ?

11:41 <CoderOnTheCouch> we talk about boinc, the weather, Linux, the weather, Windoze and the weather

11:42 <CoderOnTheCouch> best project - sounds like a religious issue - most credit, greatest good for mankind, or ?

11:42 <CoderOnTheCouch> btw, welcome to #boinc

11:43 <Tank_Master> it also depend on what you are interested in - climate moddeling, medical, math,  others...

11:43 <CoderOnTheCouch> we all have some special excitement when we get LHC@home WUs

11:43 <CoderOnTheCouch> I've been mostly focusing on QMC

11:44 <Tank_Master> is a list of projects I have written a short discription for, might give you an idea on what all is out there

11:44 <kutio> what 's LHC ?

11:44 <Tank_Master> the CERN partical accelerator

11:44 <Tank_Master> in Europe

11:44 <kutio> oh ok

11:45 <CoderOnTheCouch> Large Hadron Collider

11:46 <CoderOnTheCouch> some folks love the promise of MalariaControl

11:47 <CoderOnTheCouch> I still keep one small candle burning for Seti@home

11:50 <Tank_Master> I dont ;)

11:50 <Tank_Master> but its my chioce - nice thing about BOINC - lots of choices

11:50 <Tank_Master> anywho - Im outa here

11:50 <CoderOnTheCouch> yes -  there are many candles in my boinc cathedral

11:58 <xcamel> "The Large Hadron Collider"

11:58 <xcamel> ah.. beat me to it

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12:37 <CoderOnTheCouch> it's rare,  but I did get there first this time

12:40 * CoderOnTheCouch listens to while Coding on the couch

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12:52 <PovAddict> CoderOnTheCouch: interesting link

12:52 <CoderOnTheCouch> the cron error?

12:52 <CoderOnTheCouch> or the piano music?

12:53 <PovAddict> the music

12:53 <CoderOnTheCouch> yup - kinda nice to Code to

12:53 <PovAddict> Coders need many hours of music...

12:53 <CoderOnTheCouch> indeed

12:54 <CoderOnTheCouch> I love New Age-ish solo piano

12:56 <CoderOnTheCouch> check out - one of my favorites

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13:07 <CoderOnTheCouch> wb BiteAbleKat

13:11 <CoderOnTheCouch> light snow

13:11 <CoderOnTheCouch> thankfully no more ice

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13:20 <infinisoft> hello

13:38 <CoderOnTheCouch> hello infinisoft

13:55 <snake^> I'm wondering if it would make any sense to upgrade my linux and boinc to the 64 bit versions.

13:55 <PovAddict> depends what projects you run

13:55 <snake^> seti

13:55 <PovAddict> you can get anywhere from 3x increase in performance to no speed improvement to not running at all :)

13:56 <snake^> So, the only way to really know is to do it huh?

13:56 <PovAddict> hmm I don't know if SETI is any faster in 64-bit

13:56 <PovAddict> definitely works

13:56 <snake^> If it's not significantly faster I'm thinking it wouldn't be worth the trouble

13:57 <snake^> I got a 30% increase by compiling the client myself and was hoping for another increase with 64 bit

13:58 <PovAddict> you mean compiling the SETI app?

13:58 <snake^> Yes

13:58 <snake^> the boinc client

13:58 <PovAddict> no, that's different things

13:58 <snake^> Oh?

13:58 <Romulus> hmm... Oh is it like SocialBorg, snake^

13:58 <PovAddict> the boinc client doesn't process anything

13:59 <PovAddict> it just talks to the server and starts SETI app, which does the real work; optimizing the BOINC core client won't gain you anything

13:59 <snake^> I downloaded the tag file from Seti and got the increase

14:00 <snake^> So it must have been the seti app

14:00 <PovAddict> and used app_info.xml to make BOINC use your app?

14:00 <PovAddict> yeah

14:00 <snake^> hmm

14:01 <PovAddict> well, maybe compiling the seti app yourself under 64-bit gives you some more performance

14:01 <PovAddict> but that depends on how well optimized your existing app is... and on how well you optimize it on the 64-bit build :)

14:01 <snake^> hmm

14:02 <snake^> I'm not quite understanding the difference between the boinc client and the seti app

14:02 <snake^> THe boinc client just connects to the seti@home site ?

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14:03 <PovAddict>

14:03 <Romulus> <> (at

14:03 <zombie67> &seen mtughan

14:03 <Romulus> zombie67: mtughan was last seen in #boinc 1 day, 0 hours, 50 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <MTughan> Gotta go... Be back around 11:30-12:00PM.

14:03 <zombie67> hrm

14:03 <PovAddict> zombie67: I'm waiting for him too <.<

14:03 <PovAddict> he didn't say 12:00PM of which day :)

14:04 <zombie67> yeah, I saw you looking for in earlier

14:04 <zombie67> yeah, that way it is always right!

14:04 <PovAddict> snake^: see my link above

14:04 <snake^> yeah

14:04 <snake^> I'm thinking I only conpiled the boinc client

14:05 <snake^> But I recieved quite a boost in performance

14:05 <zombie67> pov:  check it out:

14:05 <Romulus> <> (at

14:05 <PovAddict> snake^: boinc code comes from

14:05 <PovAddict> zombie67: what about it

14:05 <zombie67> <core_client_version>6.1.7</core_client_version>

14:06 <PovAddict> ah cool

14:06 <zombie67> that is on my leopard mac

14:06 <zombie67> it is x86_64

14:06 <zombie67> client

14:06 <snake^> I must of accidently done it right then

14:06 <snake^> lol

14:08 <snake^> The other question I have is how can I launch the client remotely via ssh/telnet so that it runs in the background

14:08 <snake^> So that when I disconnect it still runs

14:08 <PovAddict> pass -daemon

14:09 <snake^> so it would be ./boink password -daemon ?

14:09 <PovAddict> you never need to pass a password there...

14:10 <snake^> ?

14:10 <PovAddict> it's just ./boinc -daemon;

14:11 <snake^> ok, good

14:12 <infinisoft> Pov, I finally pinpointed my svchost troubles, apparently it originated in network manager, and if I disable the virtual ethernet adapters for vmware, it goes away

14:14 <snake^> hmm, I'm not able to connect remotely with BOINC manager doing it that way

14:15 <PovAddict> &bw RpcAuth

14:15 <Romulus>

14:16 <snake^> Oops, I typed in the wrong IP. Works fine

14:17 <snake^> defective keyboard I guess. Can't be my fault

14:24 <CoderOnTheCouch> The first thing we do around here is assign blame.  The first place we look to do that is hardware, then software, then wetware.

14:24 <zombie67> bbl

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15:11 <wdsmia> *lo Glenn

15:17 <Rookie_69> Hi, Doug.

15:18 <wdsmia> Hows the cold?

15:18 <Rookie_69> Slimy.

15:20 <Rookie_69> I went for a drive hoping the air would help clear me out but had to return home because I spent more time expectorating than driving...

15:23 <Rookie_69> I noticed that my keg was about to run dry, so while I was out, I picked up one of those Canadian Metric six-packs... Eight beer.

15:24 <wdsmia> lol

15:27 <wdsmia> Hmm speaking of kegs... I go to lower mine by a pint

15:28 <Rookie_69> I managed to get four out of my empty keg before foam happened.

15:33 <wdsmia> Hate it when they pump foam

15:34 <wdsmia> I should invest and get a second keg for those times

15:34 <Rookie_69> I2

15:36 <wdsmia> my kegalator will hold 2

15:36 <Rookie_69> My kitchen floor will hold a few.

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15:37 <wdsmia> you should aleast build yourself a ice box

15:38 <Rookie_69> I could chain it to the landing... Thought about it.

15:39 <Rookie_69> They'll cut down my staircase for a dollar's worth of stainless steel though.\

15:40 <Rookie_69> There's been several $100,000 pieces of furnace oil tubing stolen here lately.

15:41 <wdsmia> I belive it

15:41 <Rookie_69> ... after cleanup...

15:44 <Rookie_69> Apparently, a field full of stored amusement rides hereabouts also got stripped of their copper...

15:46 <wdsmia> warming up here today

15:47 <Rookie_69> Sunny here, but still white from friday's snow.

15:47 <wdsmia> I can tell because im looking at the backyard and watching the dog shit grow

15:48 <Rookie_69> Lol.

15:49 <Rookie_69> Something like the bird shit on my deck?

15:49 <wdsmia> asks Rookie_69 to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

15:49 <Rookie_69> Same to you.

15:49 <wdsmia> lol

15:49 <Rookie_69> ... feces...

15:50 <Rookie_69> My brown stained railings are mostly stained white.

15:51 <wdsmia> forcasting 2 to 4 in of snow for tomarow so it will get recovered

15:51 <Rookie_69> The ladies across the road keep their bird feeders full.

15:52 <Rookie_69> It'll be back.

15:52 <Rookie_69> Till it under in the spring.

15:53 <wdsmia> old apartment I lived at had mullbeary trees all around all the cars were purple

15:53 <Rookie_69> Monitor went blank... Wonder what's going on?

15:53 <Rookie_69> Lol.

15:53 <wdsmia> try opening your eyes :P

15:53 <Rookie_69> Oh.

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15:55 <zombie67>

15:55 <Romulus> <> (at

15:56 <Rookie_69> I gotta rally for Canada to be abbreviated as CD or something other than CA...

15:59 <Rookie_69> Shouldn't granted credit at least have some relationship to claimed credit?

15:59 <zombie67> &seen mtughan

15:59 <Romulus> zombie67: mtughan was last seen in #boinc 1 day, 2 hours, 46 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <MTughan> Gotta go... Be back around 11:30-12:00PM.

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16:06 <wdsmia> &weather 50319

16:06 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 38F / 3C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 16mph / 26km/h ; Rest of Today - Partly sunny. High in the upper 30s. Southwest wind around 10 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy then becoming partly cloudy in the late evening and early morning then becoming mostly cloudy. A 20 percent chance of rain after (2 more messages)

16:06 <wdsmia> &more

16:06 <Romulus> wdsmia: midnight. Not as cold. Low in the upper 20s. South wind 5 to 10 mph.; Monday - A chance of rain or snow in the morning...then snow in the afternoon. Snow accumulation of 3 to 6 inches. High in the mid 30s. Temperature steady or slowly falling in the afternoon. Southeast wind around 10 mph shifting to the northeast in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Winter Storm Watch for Polk (1 more message)

16:06 <wdsmia> &more

16:06 <Romulus> wdsmia: County in effect until 6:00 AM CST on February 26, 2008;

16:09 <Rookie_69> American Samoa... Can't get much farther from me and still be on this rock.

16:09 <wdsmia> asks Rookie_69 to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

16:10 <Rookie_69> WaddIsay?

16:10 <PovAddict> f-a-r-t-her

16:10 <Rookie_69> Lol.

16:11 <Rookie_69> Further then.

16:14 <Rookie_69> There's a set of ruts through the bank that the snow plow left at the end of the driveway for every time that I left... Hopefully it won't be ice by morning... or hopefully it will be ;-)

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16:16 <Rookie_69> Maybe I should try to ride a Penny-Farthing bicycle.

16:16 <wdsmia> asks Rookie_69 to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

16:16 <Rookie_69> Lol.

16:17 <Rookie_69> Should I mention shitake mushrooms?

16:17 <wdsmia> asks Rookie_69 to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

16:17 <Rookie_69> ... or name the title of a book?

16:17 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o wdsmia

16:17 <Rookie_69> :-)

16:18 <Rookie_69> Spoilsport.

16:19 *** wdsmia sets mode: -o wdsmia

16:20 <zombie67> povaddict:  I am running MT's osx x86_64 client.

16:22 <zombie67> but there is an issue:  4 projects say that "platform x86_64-apple-darwin not found"

16:22 <zombie67> RCN, RALPH, TANPAKU, SZTAKI

16:23 <PovAddict> RCN definitely has old code not supporting alt-platform

16:23 <PovAddict> I dunno about the rest

16:23 <PovAddict> an app_info with the 32-bit osx app should work

16:23 <zombie67> I thought that the client should automatically ask for 32 bit version if 64 bit is not available?

16:29 <PovAddict> it does

16:29 <PovAddict> the client asks

16:30 <PovAddict> "give me an app for 'x86_64-apple-darwin', or alternatively, 'i686-apple-darwin'"

16:30 <PovAddict> RCN server doesn't know what "or alternatively" means :)

16:31 <zombie67> ah

16:32 <zombie67> man, they recently upgraded RALPH (and Rosetta) too.  Just a few months ago.  Is the alternate platform really that new?

16:32 <PovAddict> no

16:33 <zombie67> wonder how they screwed that up

16:35 <Rookie_69> Why does it seem to take all day to do a week's worth of dishes when it only seems to take an hour or two to dirty them?

16:35 <PovAddict> zombie67: found it, 10 months ago

16:36 <zombie67> hrm

16:36 <zombie67> "Nov 7, 2007

16:36 <zombie67> The project is back up now. We updated the php code to the latest BOINC version. Please post any issues in this thread."

16:36 <PovAddict> the php code only, not the scheduler?

16:37 <zombie67> ah.  maybe that is the problem

16:37 <PovAddict> yep seems old

16:37 <zombie67> they do have custom user settings for WU run length

16:37 <CoderOnTheCouch> naptime over

16:38 <zombie67> would that be part of the scheduler?

16:38 <zombie67> maybe that is why they did not update it.

16:38 <Soul_keeper> tv ticks me off, every sport is now a soap opera thanks to the media

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16:38 <zombie67> talking about nascar?

16:38 <Soul_keeper> it's no longer even about the performance, it's about their personal lives and celebrity status

16:38 <Soul_keeper> zombie67, yes and the others too

16:40 <Rookie_69> Hi, Couch potato!

16:42 <Rookie_69> If I fed video out to projector and rehooked up wireless keyboard, maybe I could be a couch potato too!

16:42 <Rookie_69> ... instead of a desk-chair potato.

16:47 <Rookie_69> Problem is, couch is too comfy. I'll probably fall asleep quicker.

16:51 <zombie67> how does one tell if a project has exported stats, and if so, when were they last exported?

16:53 <Rookie_69> Seems funny... MalariaControl estimates 50 hours to completion on a WU that takes 1 1/2 hours to complete.

16:54 <PovAddict> add stats/ at the end of the project URL

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16:55 <zombie67> I can't get that to work.  it just shows the same page I was already on.

16:56 <zombie67> duh

16:56 <zombie67> nm

16:56 <zombie67> cool!  I should show an additional 50 points at docking tomorrow!

16:56 <CoderOnTheCouch> a Coding couch potato, Rookie_69

16:57 <CoderOnTheCouch> have laptop. will travel

16:57 <CoderOnTheCouch> wireless helps

16:58 <Rookie_69> My docking skills are getting rusty... Haven't docked a boat in a couple of years.

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16:59 <wdsmia> then you havent crashed one in a few years huh

17:00 <Rookie_69> Apparently not :-S

17:01 <wdsmia> :)

17:02 <Rookie_69> ... although I did take the wheel a bit last summer when the only dangers around were shoals, wharves, and container ships...

17:04 <Rookie_69> 7 knots with only a jib up... running on the edge is a rush.

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17:08 <Rookie_69> Prehistoric breed of Cactus?

17:08 <CoderOnTheCouch> shhh - a carnivore

17:08 <Rookie_69> Oh. OK.

17:09 <CoderOnTheCouch> best not attract attention

17:09 * PovAddict found interesting info about programming on the iPhone / iPod touch

17:09 <CoderOnTheCouch> dinner time - bbiab

17:09 * Rookie_69 sits quietly on the sidelines.

17:10 <Rookie_69> ... temporarily...

17:13 <Rookie_69> 45 foot sailboat isn't exactly easy to control in close quarters... I'll pass off the wheel for a while yet.

17:17 <Rookie_69> Wow! First time I ever had Gin come in a bottle stopped with a cork.

17:17 <wdsmia> rofl

17:18 <Rookie_69> Must be good stuff... Cost a half a fortune.

17:18 <Rookie_69> Tastes pretty mellow.

17:19 <Rookie_69> Can't see where it's worth $40 for three cups though.

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17:22 <Rookie_69> Shh!

17:25 <Rookie_69> Ladybug bouncing off of living room light... Seems to be a regular thing here.

17:25 <Rookie_69> I think they hibernate in the walls.

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17:30 <Rookie_69> Moo.

17:31 <efc> Moo

17:32 <Rookie_69> Eddie from Atlantis... bloop bloop.

17:32 <efc> Bloop?

17:33 <Rookie_69> Man from Atlantis... air bubbles, I think.

17:33 <efc> Ah

17:33 <efc> Don't say I'm from Atlanta

17:33 <efc> thems fightin words

17:33 <Rookie_69> Seventies show mixed with Dallas parody song...

17:34 <Rookie_69>

17:34 <efc> Well, I'm not there

17:34 <Rookie_69> I'm not usually really here either.

17:34 <efc> that is the armpit of georgia (that is as nasty a body part as I'd like to mention here)

17:35 <efc> I hope they get hit by a basketball-court size asteroid

17:35 <Rookie_69> Watch out for the wave.

17:36 <efc> I picked basketball court as big enough to wipe them out but hopefully not do damage here

17:36 <Rookie_69> I said Atlantis... I think that may be a bit east of Atlanta... or not.

17:36 <Rookie_69> Lol.

17:37 <Rookie_69> North, maybe, as in Atlantis City, NJ.

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17:41 <Rookie_69> I live on a rock jutting out into the Atlantic... The only thing keeping it from being an island is a few miles of marsh...

17:42 <efc> New York?

17:42 <Rookie_69> Close. Further north-east.

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17:43 <Rookie_69> Bender???

17:44 <zombie67> yep

17:47 <Rookie_69> I think Nova Scotia is an extension of the Appalachian Mountains.

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17:47 <Rookie_69> ... risen back up out of the ocean.

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17:59 <efc> Our Appalachians are the 2nd version of that

18:00 <efc> first were worn down, then pushed up again

18:00 <Rookie_69> These don't seem to be pushed back up very far.

18:01 <Rookie_69> Mostly worn down by ice.

18:02 <efc> I dunno if the glaciers came this far but it looks like in on the topo maps

18:02 <efc> lots of linear scrapes

18:02 <Rookie_69> I'd guess so then.

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18:05 <efc> Apparently not according to wiki, but, it looks like it :p

18:07 <efc>

18:07 <Romulus> <> (at

18:11 <Rookie_69> Matbe ice only on top of mountains.

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18:38 * KathrynM is back (gone 11:32:13)

18:38 <Rookie_69> Hi, K.

18:38 * KathrynM groans

18:39 <KathrynM> mornin'

18:40 <Rookie_69> Anybody named Malcolm near you? We're trying to hook up with him...

18:41 <Rookie_69> He went east ~6 or 7 years ago...

18:41 <KathrynM> Nope. Sorry.

18:42 <Rookie_69> Oh well.

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19:10 <KathrynM> time to go to that evil place next door.  you know, the one with the screaming children...  :-/

19:10 <KathrynM> Laters all.

19:10 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

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19:53 <Rookie_69> Pushed away from the box... L8er.

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21:24 <PovAddict> &ping

21:24 <Romulus> pong

21:24 <PovAddict> &ping

21:24 <Romulus> pong

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22:05 <PovAddict> &ping

22:05 <Romulus> pong

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22:13 <zombie67> sup?

22:48 <wdsmia> &weather 50319

22:48 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 32F / 0C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 29.96in / 1015hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A 20 percent chance of rain after midnight. Not as cold. Low in the upper 20s. South wind 5 to 10 mph.; Monday - A chance of rain or snow in the morning...then snow in the afternoon. Snow accumulation of 3 to 6 inches. High in (2 more messages)

22:48 <wdsmia> &more

22:48 <Romulus> wdsmia: the mid 30s. Temperature steady or slowly falling in the afternoon. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the northeast 10 to 15 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Monday Night - Cloudy. Snow likely in the evening...then a chance of snow after midnight. Areas of blowing snow after midnight. Breezy...colder. Snow accumulation around 1 inch. Total snow accumulation 4 to 7 (1 more message)

22:48 <wdsmia> &more

22:48 <Romulus> wdsmia: inches. Low 15 to 20. North wind 15 to 25 mph with gusts to around 35 mph. Chance of snow 70 percent.; Winter Storm Watch for Polk County in effect until 6:00 AM CST on February 26, 2008;

22:59 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91752

22:59 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 52F / 11C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 30.19in / 1022hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Scattered showers in the evening. Lows 41 to 46. Light winds. Chance of measurable precipitation 30 percent.; Monday - Partly cloudy in the morning...becoming mostly sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. Highs 65 to 70. (1 more message)

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