00:09 <zombie67> nice
00:10 <zombie67> they may end in a few months. I am trying to decide if I want to hit another milestone, just incase they do
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01:21 <zombie67> &seen mtughan
01:21 <Romulus> zombie67: mtughan was last seen in #boinc 1 day, 12 hours, 9 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <MTughan> Gotta go... Be back around 11:30-12:00PM.
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01:23 <Tank_Master> good thing he didnt say what day
01:24 <Wabbit67> we will never find his body
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01:25 <Tank_Master> yoyoyo
01:26 <Tank_Master> is it already time for me to head to bed?
01:26 <Wabbit67> yes it is
01:26 <Tank_Master> heh
01:26 * Wabbit67 gets the bed ready
01:26 <Wabbit67> its actually full of snakes
01:27 <zombie67> hi yoyo
01:27 <zombie67> op! brb
01:28 <Tank_Master> &cad
01:28 <cactaur> I love CAD!
01:30 <Tank_Master> hehe
01:30 <Tank_Master> yeah, its great
01:30 <Tank_Master> I like GIRL GENIUS
01:30 <Tank_Master> to
01:30 <Tank_Master> http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20080225
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01:34 <yoyo[RKN]> moin
01:34 <zombie67> back
01:34 <Tank_Master> wb
01:34 <zombie67> ANYTHING that foglio does, I buy
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01:35 <Tank_Master> ?
01:35 <zombie67> buck godot is hilarious
01:35 <zombie67> girl genious = foglio
01:36 <zombie67> he used to do comic strip bits for Dragon magazine back in the day
01:36 <Tank_Master> ahh
01:37 <zombie67> then he has a stint at humorous porn comics XXXenophile. GREAT stuff!
01:37 <Tank_Master> yes, I find myself likeing it
01:38 <Romulus> Title: Studio Foglio: The Xenophile Collection (at studiofoglio.com)
01:38 <zombie67> he does great facial expression
01:38 <zombie67> great humor too
01:39 <Tank_Master> is it online?
01:39 <zombie67> xenopile? doubt it.
01:39 <Tank_Master> bummer
01:39 <zombie67> be sure to buy Buck Godot.
01:39 <zombie67> either from their web site, or amazon
01:39 <zombie67> you will not be disapointed
01:41 <zombie67> humor/sci-fi
01:44 <Tank_Master> willy finally took off siclink from the "sign up for proj" page
01:44 <zombie67> heh
01:44 <zombie67> should move it to retired too
01:45 <Tank_Master> I have 15 projects attached to this comp - only 3 are getting work ;)
01:46 <zombie67> ? really?
01:47 <Wabbit> wow
01:47 <Wabbit> my 10 projects are getting work
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01:48 <Tank_Master> ABC - APS - AIS - Bratz - chess - seasonal - depspid - docking - greasom - Imp - LHC - Pirates - scilink - TSP - WCG
01:48 <Tank_Master> ABC, TSP and WCG are the only 3 getting work
01:48 <Wabbit98> anyone have an invitation code to Imp?
01:49 <Tank_Master> I did
01:49 <Tank_Master> but it dont work no more
01:49 <Tank_Master> ask pov
01:49 <Tank_Master> its his
01:49 <zombie67> 64 bit?
01:49 <Tank_Master> but work is rare
01:50 <Tank_Master> ?
01:50 <zombie67> is your machine 64 bit?
01:50 <Tank_Master> corse
01:50 <Tank_Master> and yes, I know theres a workaround for chess
01:50 <zombie67> then chess will never give work, even when there is some
01:50 <Tank_Master> Im just lazy
01:50 <zombie67> seasonal is dead
01:50 <zombie67> scilink is dead
01:51 <Tank_Master> I just finished a WU a few days ago
01:51 <Tank_Master> got a few more on my last one
01:51 <zombie67> no new work from seasonal
01:51 <zombie67> gerosim has work only occasionally
01:51 <Tank_Master> gresom I sware stoped handing out work the day I attached
01:52 <zombie67> I am willing to bet it is another 64 bit issue
01:52 <Wabbit98> I blame TM
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01:52 <zombie67> recall they are trying to rewrite the boinc server code in win
01:52 <Tank_Master> I blams global diming
01:53 <Tank_Master> thats a worthy project
01:53 <Tank_Master> no reason it must be down in unix just because unix is free
01:53 <zombie67> TM, the work around is as simple as d/l the zip file from my page, ad copying it to your project folder
01:53 <Tank_Master> done*
01:53 <Tank_Master> do you realize just how lazy I can be?
01:53 <zombie67> it's done in linux, not unix
01:54 <Tank_Master> same diff
01:54 <zombie67> not even close
01:54 <zombie67> ;)
01:54 <Tank_Master> close, it is
01:54 <zombie67> true
01:57 <efc> No oscars for Grindhouse, i'm heardbroken
01:57 <Tank_Master> lol
01:58 <efc> i saw it twice :p
01:58 <zombie67> Fry: Bender, this world just isn't good enough for you.
01:58 <zombie67> Bender: Not even close.
01:59 <Wabbit98> Futurama won no Oscars either
01:59 <Tank_Master> good
02:00 <efc> the Academy must have lost my nomination for Best Cheerleader Getting Out Of A 1970 Mach 1
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02:13 <Tank_Master> anywho - gn
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02:19 <zombie67> gn
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03:30 <mweltin> hello?
03:31 <mweltin> &weather 96799
03:31 <efc> moo
03:31 <Romulus> mweltin: Temperature: 79°F / 26.1°C | Humidity: -999% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014.1hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6.4km/h ; Today - Occasional showers with isolated thunderstorms. Highs in the mid 80s. Variable winds 10 mph...with higher gusts in showers.; Tonight and Thursday - Scattered showers with isolated thunderstorms. Lows near 80. High near 90. (1 more message)
03:31 <mweltin> hey efc
03:31 <mweltin> how goes it?
03:32 <mweltin> I'm giving STLport one more shot and them I'm giving up on it officially.
03:32 <efc> Ok.. gotta get to bed
03:32 <efc> whats that?
03:32 <mweltin> some guy ran my instance of the tsp through concord
03:32 <mweltin> came up with a good solution
03:32 <mweltin> may be optimal.
03:32 <mweltin> STL = Standard template library.
03:33 <efc> oh yeah
03:33 <mweltin> yeah
03:33 <mweltin> I haven't had tiem to check it out
03:33 <mweltin> but it got me jazzed to do more algorithm work.
03:34 <mweltin> I have felt like I need to improve my apps more but I'm just running into trouble.
03:34 <efc> Sorry, gotta get to bed. Good luck with it.
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03:38 <Tidus> hi all
03:38 <mweltin> hey
03:39 <Tidus> so what all has you been up to today?
03:40 <mweltin> not much, a little diving and writting some code
03:40 <mweltin> you?
03:40 <Romulus> I guess you are upper fayl, mweltin
03:40 <Tidus> i'm just doin a little eating and some chatting
03:42 <mweltin> you use STLport ever Tidus?
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03:46 <CoderForLife> morning
03:46 <mweltin> hey cfl
03:47 <CoderForLife> hello mweltin
03:50 <Romulus> Title: Astronomy Picture of the Day (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)
03:51 <mweltin> hmmmm thats why I have no electricity here.
03:52 <CoderForLife> they mention LHC@Home in the caption
03:53 <Tidus> mweltin, no i never used it
03:53 <Tidus> sorry, was in a different chan
03:54 <mweltin> thanks Tidus
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03:57 <mweltin> clusty!
03:57 <clusty> hey
03:58 <clusty> missed you amigo
03:58 <clusty> :D
03:58 <clusty> dud
03:58 <mweltin> long time
03:58 <clusty> i did not know I was talking to an important fella
03:58 <clusty> the big daddy master chief from TSP
03:58 * clusty bows
03:58 <clusty> :D
03:58 <mweltin> LOL
03:58 <mweltin> hahahahahahahaah
03:58 <clusty> thought you were a more advanced punk
03:58 <mweltin> big master that can't even build a simple stlport app
03:58 <clusty> :D
03:59 <clusty> happens to the best of us
03:59 <mweltin> I'm just some guy you know
03:59 <clusty> i actually figured out your problem with STLPORT
03:59 <clusty> :D
04:00 <clusty> some colleague from work had same issue
04:00 <clusty> :D
04:00 <clusty> some libs were built with stlport
04:00 <mweltin> really cause I can't get boinc libs to build right with it.
04:00 <clusty> and some others with some other stl
04:00 <mweltin> std ?
04:00 <clusty> that
04:01 <clusty> i will give it a shot today
04:01 <mweltin> I have officially given up (as per the news on tsp) but I'm giving it more try right now.
04:01 <mweltin> crunch3r has done it
04:01 <mweltin> so I know it's possible
04:01 <clusty> btw
04:02 <clusty> over weekend my boinc generated 250GB of logfiles
04:02 <clusty> :D
04:02 <mweltin> yeah that can happen, although 250GB seems way too big.
04:02 <yoyo[RKN]> clusty : I have a boinc server?
04:02 <mweltin> how on earth did you manage that.
04:02 <clusty> well i forgot one client turned on
04:03 <clusty> yoyo[RKN], you mean me?
04:03 <yoyo[RKN]> yes sorry
04:03 <clusty> i started a work gen
04:03 <clusty> and forgot a client on
04:03 <clusty> :D
04:03 <clusty> yoyo[RKN], yeah
04:03 <clusty> starting
04:03 <yoyo[RKN]> aha
04:03 <clusty> its prebeta though
04:03 <mweltin> but still 250GB
04:03 <yoyo[RKN]> what does it calculate
04:03 <clusty> well uppercase that lasts 5 seconds
04:03 <clusty> :D
04:04 <mweltin> AHAHAHAAHA
04:04 <clusty> yoyo[RKN], neural nets
04:04 <clusty> for now
04:04 <yoyo[RKN]> for uppercase is a commandline switch to let it run longer
04:04 <clusty> actually not uppercase
04:04 <clusty> but wrapper
04:04 <yoyo[RKN]> like me ;)
04:04 <CoderForLife> breakfast time bbiab
04:05 <clusty> i am not the nnet guy
04:05 <clusty> i am just boincifying
04:05 <mweltin> I have to look into that wrapper someday.
04:05 <clusty> all possible apps
04:05 <clusty> mweltin, its genious
04:05 <clusty> same app
04:05 <Romulus> Title: yoyo@home (at www.rechenkraft.net)
04:06 <clusty> with a minor twist to some xml it read can make almost any app boinc compliant
04:07 <mweltin> thats nice, I just got some free ACO stuff online, the wrapper would be an easy way to get it up and running fast
04:07 <clusty> indeed
04:07 <clusty> yoyo what are you crunching?
04:08 <yoyo[RKN]> a math project, ogr-25
04:08 <clusty> what does it do?
04:08 <yoyo[RKN]> and an evolution@home project which simulates evolutions
04:08 * KathrynM is back (gone 08:57:55)
04:08 <KathrynM> evenin all
04:08 <clusty> rabbit/wolf simulation? :D
04:09 <mweltin> KathrynM!
04:09 <clusty> ahow kath
04:09 <clusty> ahoy*
04:09 <Romulus> Title: Golomb ruler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
04:09 <KathrynM> hi mweltin and clusty
04:09 <yoyo[RKN]> morning KathrynM
04:09 <KathrynM> hi yoyo[RKN]
04:09 <clusty> yoyo[RKN], read about it. did not understand much :D
04:09 <clusty> should give it more than 20sec i guess
04:10 <yoyo[RKN]> lol
04:10 <mweltin> that poor shark in the upper right
04:10 <mweltin> sharks get a bad wrap.
04:10 <clusty> mweltin, were you the fella not liking sharks?
04:11 <mweltin> I saw a reef shark just the other day
04:11 <clusty> sharks are cool
04:11 <clusty> ...behind a thick glass window
04:11 <mweltin> I said they freak me out, but not that I didn't like them.
04:11 <CoderForLife> back
04:12 <clusty> are sharks aggro?
04:12 <clusty> in your region
04:12 <mweltin> no, just curious
04:12 <clusty> then they are nice guys
04:13 <mweltin> hammer heads will "taste" almost anything.
04:13 <clusty> as long as they dont give you a big smile :D
04:13 <mweltin> and reef sharks don't attache humans
04:13 <clusty> i used to have gold fish. trained them to scratch their bellies
04:13 <clusty> :D
04:13 <clusty> when I fed them
04:13 <mweltin> the one I saw the other day was 2 maybe 3 feet long
04:14 <clusty> can you get that close to them?
04:14 <mweltin> that one was close enough to touch
04:15 <mweltin> but they wont let you touch them.
04:15 <clusty> well I'll go to marseille soon enough
04:15 <clusty> prolly not as cool as samoa, but close ebnough to dive
04:15 <clusty> have a diving maniac buddy
04:16 <mweltin> samoa is not all sunshine and rainbows, but its not bad
04:16 <clusty> i imagine it being something like cancun :D
04:16 <clusty> emerald watters and white sand beaches
04:16 <mweltin> coral here is great
04:16 <mweltin> parts are that way, but it has its ugly side too.
04:17 <clusty> my paps always said I have weird dreams
04:17 <clusty> i always dreamt to work for national geographic
04:17 <clusty> to take pix of underwater animals
04:17 <mweltin> not weird at all.
04:17 <clusty> swim with the fishes for a living
04:18 <clusty> ...and for a question:
04:18 <mweltin> life on a boat can't be much fun, but the diving would be great.
04:19 <clusty> this line gives me an erorr:
04:19 <clusty> self.xml = xml.dom.minidom.parse(self.filename)
04:19 <mweltin> where is it from?
04:20 <clusty> boinc_proj/bin/boincxml.py
04:20 <clusty> i updated some stuff
04:20 <mweltin> is this some dom stuff in java or....
04:20 <mweltin> python
04:20 <clusty> and now the start script chokes
04:20 <clusty> python
04:20 <clusty> ..which I suck at
04:20 <clusty> some package missing?
04:21 <mweltin> I dont think so, what is the error you get?
04:21 <clusty> Traceback (most recent call last):
04:21 <clusty> File "bin/start", line 703, in <module>
04:21 <clusty> run_state = configxml.RunStateFile(run_state_filename).read(failopen_ok = True)
04:21 <clusty> File "/home/boincadm/boinc_proj/bin/boincxml.py", line 124, in read
04:21 <clusty> self.xml = xml.dom.minidom.parse(self.filename)
04:21 <clusty> File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/_xmlplus/dom/minidom.py", line 1915, in parse
04:21 <clusty> return expatbuilder.parse(file)
04:21 <clusty> File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/_xmlplus/dom/expatbuilder.py", line 926, in parse
04:21 <clusty> result = builder.parseFile(fp)
04:21 <clusty> File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/_xmlplus/dom/expatbuilder.py", line 211, in parseFile
04:21 <clusty> parser.Parse("", True)
04:21 <clusty> xml.parsers.expat.ExpatError: no element found: line 1, column 0
04:21 <clusty> in bin/start
04:22 <clusty> some xml parser thing
04:22 <mweltin> expat is some xml parser thing that is for sure.
04:22 <mweltin> when did you do the update?
04:23 <clusty> a while ago
04:23 <clusty> but never did stop boinc in 2 weeks
04:23 <clusty> :D
04:23 <clusty> now i cant restart it
04:23 <mweltin> where are you running it from?
04:23 <clusty> nvm
04:24 <clusty> from boinc_proj
04:24 <clusty> i type bin/start
04:24 <Romulus> Title: Google Lunar X PRIZE (at www.googlelunarxprize.org)
04:24 <mweltin> ok
04:24 <clusty> nvm
04:24 <mweltin> did you mess with the config.xml at all
04:24 <clusty> i will fix it
04:24 <clusty> thought it would be obvious
04:25 <clusty> ...but then again you are just a dud
04:25 <clusty> :D
04:25 <clusty> you aint that special :D
04:25 <mweltin> well ever notice how an xml tag and its data are on three lines and not one.
04:25 <clusty> nope. did not touch config.xml in ages
04:25 <mweltin> ok
04:26 <mweltin> I got some strange errors once when I put all the xml on one line.
04:26 <mweltin> <tag> data </tag>
04:27 <mweltin> strange I just tried it now and it worked fine.
04:27 <clusty> i can't even read whats wrong. is it my code
04:27 <clusty> or the lib that chokes?
04:28 <mweltin> at this point I'd think it was the python scirpt, but I'm not sure, could you pastebin.com that error message
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04:31 <mweltin> I have a local copy I'm going to try to upgrade and see if I get the same error.
04:31 <KathrynM> bbiab... dinner
04:31 <mweltin> whats for dinner.
04:31 <mweltin> no produce on the island today.
04:32 <mweltin> I have to live vicariously (sp?)
04:33 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
04:33 <clusty> is the error
04:36 <mweltin> I'm still waiting for my boinc source to download
04:37 <clusty> mweltin, definitely some stuff was replaced
04:37 <clusty> Unpacking python-libxml2 (from .../python-libxml2_2.6.30.dfsg-2ubuntu1.1_amd64.deb) ...
04:38 <mweltin> did you update python's libxml2 package
04:38 <mweltin> I'm not sure what you were telling me just now.
04:38 <clusty> yes
04:38 <clusty> found in log files that it got updated
04:39 <mweltin> ahhh
04:39 <clusty> ghhh
04:39 <mweltin> so wait do you have a boinc package?
04:39 <clusty> nope
04:39 <clusty> i compiled from source
04:39 <mweltin> good
04:39 <clusty> and did a make_project
04:39 <mweltin> excelent
04:39 <clusty> can I just do another proj
04:39 <mweltin> sure
04:39 <clusty> and copy the config_xml?
04:40 <mweltin> it will make a new one for you, but you can copy the config.xml over yes.
04:40 <mweltin> did you run the upgrade script ?
04:40 <clusty> so all my settings will be there?
04:40 <clusty> nope
04:40 <clusty> never knew there was one
04:40 <clusty> :D
04:41 <mweltin> ok, so one thing I was told was that....
04:41 <mweltin> when there is a server fix, or upgrade you go to the boinc source dir
04:41 <mweltin> svn update
04:41 <mweltin> then in the $BONC_SRC/tools dir
04:41 <mweltin> is a script upgrade
04:42 <clusty> rite
04:42 <clusty> lemme check
04:42 <mweltin> I think the syntax is upgrade path to project ro something
04:43 <clusty> Usage: upgrade [options] project_name
04:43 <clusty> Options:
04:43 <clusty> --project_root default: HOME/projects/
04:43 <clusty> will give it a shot now
04:43 <clusty> do I have to recompile new sources?
04:43 <clusty> or the upgrade takes care fo that?
04:43 <mweltin> shouldn't no
04:44 <mweltin> sometimes there are database udpates too but that is a different procedure.
04:45 <clusty> funny :D
04:45 <clusty> cant upgrade
04:45 <clusty> script chokes
04:45 <clusty> :D
04:45 <mweltin> what do you get for an error there?
04:46 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
04:46 <clusty> basically cant stop proj
04:46 <mweltin> why you run svn update if there are changes to the Makefile.am you have to run _autosetup again.
04:47 <mweltin> did you stop the project first?
04:47 <clusty> it is stopped
04:47 <mweltin> oh wait its stopped alraedy
04:47 <clusty> but no start/stop/status can be run
04:47 <mweltin> thats the whole problem
04:47 <clusty> :D
04:49 <mweltin> so we obviously have the right version of python because it used to work.
04:50 <mweltin> I can send you my boincxml.py file if you want to do a diff on it.
04:50 <clusty> i suspect its a python problem
04:50 <mweltin> if they are the same we know its a python problem.
04:51 <clusty> send away then
04:52 <clusty> email it pls
04:52 <clusty> email@example.com
04:52 <mweltin> ok
04:52 <clusty> and thanks for the help
04:55 <mweltin> apparently it's part of the python standard library.
04:55 <mweltin> the expat module taht is.
04:55 <clusty> though so
04:57 <mweltin> my old box has python 2.4.3
04:57 <mweltin> and let me check my new box.
04:58 <mweltin> 2.5.1
04:58 <mweltin> on the new box.
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04:59 <KathrynM> back
04:59 <TheGasGiant> wb
04:59 <KathrynM> thx
04:59 <mweltin> KathrynM, is a python guru she can help fiugre this out.
05:00 <clusty> goody
05:00 <KathrynM> hahahahahaha
05:00 <mweltin> sorry clusty I was only kidding
05:00 <clusty> i know
05:00 <clusty> :D
05:00 <KathrynM> I'm a lowly English teacher
05:00 <mweltin> that was more for her benifit thank yous
05:00 <mweltin> lowly?
05:01 <TheGasGiant> who obvously knows python :)
05:01 <mweltin> the gas giant ?
05:01 <mweltin> perhaps?
05:01 <clusty> well i picture she's quite resourcefull
05:01 <KathrynM> The only python I know is the snake. And I'll stay far away from those, thaniks.
05:01 <clusty> not many english teachers can handle linux
05:01 <clusty> :D
05:01 <KathrynM> WEll, it took quite a bit of hand holding ;)
05:02 <clusty> i am sure the process was pleasant in itself :D
05:02 <mweltin> no joke, once i asked my english teacher how long my paper should be.
05:03 <mweltin> he said...."Markus a good paper is like a womans skirt, long enough to cover the subject and short enough to keep your interest"
05:03 <clusty> dirty....
05:03 <clusty> hope that was not highschool
05:03 <KathrynM> lol
05:04 <mweltin> and it was, and it was in the middle of class and right when the PC movement was going strong.
05:05 <mweltin> I don't think I took an english class after highschool.
05:05 <mweltin> does it show?
05:06 <clusty> sure aint showin'
05:06 <mweltin> can't spell my way out of a paper bag, and I never which to or too I should use.
05:06 <mweltin> number two is the only know I can remember.
05:06 <KathrynM> and dont forget two too
05:06 <KathrynM> :)
05:07 <mweltin> the real nail in the coffin for me and english was Mrs. Kish. She made us read every John Steinbeck novel written.
05:08 <mweltin> after the red pony I wanted to kill her.
05:08 <clusty> steinbeck is the "of mice and men" guy?
05:08 <mweltin> I brought the satanic bible to school just to freak her out.
05:08 <mweltin> yes among other tragicly long and boring books.
05:09 <KathrynM> never read steinbeck
05:09 <clusty> well I almost failed one year since I did not put any accents or dots on i's
05:09 <mweltin> now she tells me
05:09 <clusty> idiotic
05:09 <mweltin> where were you 20 years agao.
05:09 <KathrynM> lol
05:09 <KathrynM> in elementary school
05:10 <clusty> well in romanian we have like 4 letters with funny squiggly things
05:10 <KathrynM> or maybe middle school.
05:10 <clusty> no one uses them
05:10 <clusty> can bet from context
05:10 <mweltin> clusty its totally python
05:10 <clusty> get*
05:10 <clusty> python lib?
05:10 <clusty> i mean python itself not boinc
05:10 <mweltin> yeah I just ran the upgrade script and it wroked fine.
05:11 <clusty> which version of python do you have?
05:11 <mweltin> 2.4.3
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05:11 <clusty> lemme see if i can downgrade
05:12 <mweltin> I'd try my live server with python 2.5 but I dont' want to f it up.
05:12 <mweltin> done
05:12 <mweltin> dont*
05:12 <mweltin> python is like Norton antivirus on windows.
05:12 <clusty> i have 2.5.1
05:12 <mweltin> its in everything and everywhere
05:12 <mweltin> if you mess up python on your box it sucks.
05:12 <mweltin> 2.5 is great
05:13 <mweltin> what distro?
05:13 <mweltin> of linux that is?
05:13 <clusty> wholly macaro
05:13 <clusty> i cant kill python
05:13 <clusty> its ubuntu server
05:13 <clusty> :D
05:13 <clusty> debian is a bit old
05:13 <mweltin> ok, so it has some package managmentthing right?
05:13 <clusty> yeap
05:13 <clusty> will install 2.4
05:14 <mweltin> is it debian based?
05:14 <mweltin> no
05:14 <mweltin> no
05:14 <mweltin> no
05:14 <clusty> yes
05:14 <mweltin> dont install 2.4
05:14 <clusty> 99% debian compliant :D
05:14 <mweltin> lets first try to just deal with the package
05:14 <mweltin> sorry
05:14 <mweltin> modlue
05:14 <clusty> huh?
05:14 <clusty> do what?
05:14 <mweltin> expat module
05:14 <clusty> ok
05:15 <mweltin> I think we should try to reinstall the expat python module.
05:15 <clusty> 126.96.36.199
05:15 <clusty> is what i have
05:15 <clusty> libxml-paser-oerl
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05:16 <mweltin> is expat installed on your box?
05:16 <clusty> yes
05:16 <clusty> 1.95.8
05:17 <clusty> libexpat1
05:17 <mweltin> because based on my 3 min of research, pyhon expat module is just a wrapper
05:17 <clusty> yeap
05:18 <mweltin> ok so how do python modules work? do they load a shared lib or something when they are impored into a script?
05:19 <clusty> no bloody idea
05:19 <clusty> know of thing called twig or whatever
05:20 <mweltin> no worries
05:20 <clusty> that makes it easy for python to play nice with other langs
05:20 <mweltin> I'll just make something up and we can test it.
05:20 <clusty> so why not downgrade python?
05:20 <mweltin> that could mess up your system a lot
05:21 <mweltin> not worht the risk at this point
05:21 <clusty> indeed
05:21 <mweltin> but go ahead if you want.
05:21 <clusty> no thanks
05:21 <clusty> 20 people will yell at me
05:21 <clusty> :D
05:21 <clusty> all sorts of services are running there for company
05:21 <mweltin> what do you care what other people say
05:21 <mweltin> ok you are a command line?
05:21 <clusty> well I have to fix it afterwards
05:22 <mweltin> haha
05:22 <clusty> i am the admin
05:22 <clusty> :D
05:22 <clusty> would rather move the server on my machine
05:22 <clusty> than f** up the server
05:22 <mweltin> you are the admin, adn all this teim I thought you were just some guy.
05:22 <clusty> :D
05:22 <mweltin> fire up a terminal and start python
05:23 <clusty> done chief
05:23 <clusty> what now?
05:23 <mweltin> import sys
05:23 <mweltin> import xml.dom.minidom
05:23 <mweltin> tell me if you get any errors
05:23 <clusty> done
05:23 <mweltin> any errors?
05:24 <clusty> nope
05:24 <clusty> all honky dorry :D
05:24 <mweltin> cool
05:25 <mweltin> so the boincxml.py is just a lib of python classes
05:25 <clusty> yeah
05:25 <mweltin> and those are the only two modules it imports.
05:25 <clusty> maybe some prototype has changed meanwhile
05:25 <clusty> inside the python-xml thing
05:25 <clusty> #args/types
05:25 <clusty> whatever
05:26 <mweltin> then it was a crappy wrapper
05:26 <clusty> will prolly be best if I wrote to the mailing list
05:26 <clusty> there must be python-boinc experts there
05:26 <mweltin> can't hurt
05:26 <mweltin> try #python here in irc
05:27 <clusty> they'll tell me: go learn python
05:27 <clusty> and dont bug us with your dumb questions :LD
05:27 <mweltin> true
05:28 <mweltin> but every once in a while you get a nice guy
05:28 <clusty> lets see :D
05:30 <mweltin> is there a file called run_state_$HOST.xml in your project dir?
05:30 <mweltin> where $HOST is your box's hostname
05:31 <clusty> yes
05:31 <clusty> empty
05:31 <clusty> should i remove?
05:31 <clusty> worked
05:31 <mweltin> empty empty like nothing?
05:31 <clusty> fokin ay
05:31 <clusty> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
05:31 <clusty> fokin ey
05:31 <mweltin> what
05:32 <clusty> now it works
05:32 <clusty> i closed the boinc by killing
05:32 <clusty> cause FS was full
05:32 <mweltin> ouch
05:32 <clusty> and could not close any other way
05:32 <clusty> did a killall
05:32 <clusty> i feel like I could kiss you
05:32 <clusty> ...but that would be just too gay
05:32 <clusty> :D
05:33 <mweltin> I get that a lot
05:33 <mweltin> its ok
05:33 <clusty> thanks a bunch dud
05:33 <mweltin> np
05:33 <clusty> you are afterall DA MAN
05:33 <clusty> :D
05:33 <mweltin> I'm just some guy you know
05:33 <clusty> how on earth could I have figured that one out
05:34 <mweltin> well I started to look at the files themselves.
05:34 <clusty> should I bother upgrading?
05:34 <clusty> now that it works?
05:34 <mweltin> bin/start and theboincxml.py
05:34 <clusty> or don't touch it :D
05:34 <mweltin> they are well documented.
05:34 <mweltin> sure what is the worst that can happen
05:35 <clusty> just trash it :D
05:35 <mweltin> you are just running uppecase right?
05:35 <clusty> which is no disaster
05:35 <clusty> wrapper
05:35 <clusty> :D
05:35 <mweltin> the only things that screw up are php things on the website.
05:35 <mweltin> well let me rephrase that
05:36 <mweltin> when i have run an upgrade, I have never noticed anything other than some php pages break.
05:36 <mweltin> WU and results seem to come and go without issue.
05:36 <mweltin> but there is a first time for everything.
05:37 <clusty> scripts worked just fine
05:38 <clusty> to run php form command line I need CGI php?
05:39 <mweltin> no
05:39 <mweltin> php script_name
05:39 <mweltin> should work
05:39 <mweltin> errrr
05:39 <clusty> i mean php is for now just an apache module
05:39 <mweltin> yeah
05:39 <clusty> no php exec
05:39 <clusty> usually that came with CGI version of php
05:40 <clusty> is there a smarter way of doing that?
05:40 <mweltin> no you can use php as an almost shell if youwant
05:40 <mweltin> no still an apache mod.
05:40 <mweltin> as far as I know
05:40 <clusty> think its php-cli
05:41 <mweltin> I remember raeding about some gtk and php deal where you could make desktop apps with them.
05:41 <mweltin> no apache nothing.
05:41 <clusty> yeap
05:41 <clusty> that was it
05:42 <clusty> i remember reading of boinc forums
05:42 <clusty> to do cron jobs on them you needed the funny command line php
05:42 <mweltin> you can use php as a shell
05:42 <mweltin> af\aljflaskdjf
05:42 <mweltin> sorry
05:42 <mweltin> you can use php as a scripting language, like bash if you want
05:42 <clusty> yeah
05:43 <clusty> but the interpreter does not come by defualt
05:43 <clusty> cause most ppl do just webv pages
05:43 <clusty> and they need just apache to see them
05:43 <clusty> anyways
05:43 <clusty> seemed to have worked
05:46 <mweltin> cool beans
05:46 <mweltin> I'm going to bed then.
05:46 <mweltin> you all take care.
05:46 <KathrynM> night mweltin
05:47 <mweltin> ngiht KathrynM, take care, and don't make the kids read steinbeck, in the end they will hate you for it.
05:47 <clusty> gnite, thanks mr man
05:47 <clusty> :D
05:47 <KathrynM> Ive got kids who are lucky to say their abc's
05:47 <KathrynM> They won't be reading steinbeck any time soon.
05:48 <mweltin> for all I know Mrs. Kish is a nice person with only a character flaw, but I'll never know.
05:48 <KathrynM> lol
05:48 <mweltin> oh so it's hemmingway for them
05:48 <clusty> any of you read a book called "foam of daze" or "froth of days"?
05:48 <clusty> by some french dud called boris vian?
05:48 <KathrynM> nope
05:48 <clusty> damn
05:48 <mweltin> no
05:49 <clusty> can't share my love for this book with you
05:49 <clusty> :D
05:49 <mweltin> I did read green eggs and ham
05:49 <KathrynM> one of my favorites markus
05:49 <KathrynM> It was the first book I learned to read.
05:49 <clusty> lemme wiki for it
05:49 <mweltin> I don't read much.
05:49 <xcamel> boo
05:49 <mweltin> after green eggs everything else is a let down.
05:49 <clusty> balah
05:50 <clusty> blah
05:50 <KathrynM> lol
05:50 <mweltin> xcamel I am.
05:50 <clusty> some kiddy book
05:50 <mweltin> ok now I'm going
05:50 <mweltin> later
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05:50 <xcamel> 05:50 am - not much of anything yet...
05:53 <TheGasGiant> heya jay
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06:26 <hawmps> ip kill >> 188.8.131.52
07:16 <clusty> bang bang kill em all
07:16 <clusty> :D
07:20 <hawmps> ssh2 hakorz
07:20 <clusty> have fail2ban?
07:20 <clusty> or similar thing
07:20 <clusty> all haxorz get a nice automatic firewall ban
07:23 <desti> change the ssh port
07:23 <desti> and 99,9999% of all ssh bots are out of bussiness
07:24 <clusty> i put some ridiculous high port
07:24 <clusty> over 10k
07:24 <clusty> most port scanners stop there
07:24 <clusty> and anyways you can catch them with snort if they scan you
07:25 <clusty> and ban before they get your ssh
07:34 <KathrynM> Can someone tell me if you can access this?
07:35 <clusty> you click on the globe
07:35 <clusty> :D
07:35 <KathrynM> thanks. That's all I needed to know.
07:36 <clusty> kath, you are raising haxorz
07:36 <clusty> :D
07:36 <clusty> teaching them to crack codes from early ages
07:36 <KathrynM> nah
07:36 <KathrynM> That's all my stuff
07:37 <clusty> your brain is an example of:
07:37 <clusty> protoplasm
07:37 <clusty> :D
07:37 <KathrynM> I just needed to make sure it was as easy as clicking a link for the less technically inclined coworkers
07:37 <clusty> well i am quite techie :D
07:38 <KathrynM> If you said well, I had to open port 49 on my router and then change my IP tables blah blah blah, I would have known that this ain't gonna work.
07:38 <KathrynM> But if all you did was click, well...
07:39 <KathrynM> :D
07:39 <clusty> damn, i was lucky to have stumbled across the big daddy master chief, markus
07:39 <KathrynM> :)
07:39 <clusty> would have cried for a long time otherwise
07:40 <KathrynM> Well... I could have told you what your problem was. But I thought I'd let Markus feel important :p
07:40 <clusty> sure you did
07:40 <clusty> dunno
07:40 <KathrynM> lol
07:40 <clusty> i love more and more my job
07:40 <clusty> i am payed to chat on IRC
07:40 <clusty> :D
07:40 <KathrynM> nice
07:41 <KathrynM> darn it... forgot to make my science vocab sheet.
07:41 <KathrynM> bbiab
07:41 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...
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07:51 <KathrynM> great. "A Healthy Body"
07:51 <clusty> velcome
07:51 <clusty> :D
07:52 <clusty> science for kiddos?
07:52 <KathrynM> So I'll get to hear how the picture of the boy has a winky.
07:52 <KathrynM> Just what I want to hear for the next two weeks.
07:52 <KathrynM> Yeah, 2nd and 3rd graders.
07:52 <clusty> telling them about bees and birds?
07:52 <KathrynM> thankfully no
07:52 <clusty> i imagine that must be brutal
07:52 <KathrynM> But a coworker gets to do that with some 5th and 6th graders
07:52 <clusty> that late?
07:53 <clusty> my momma told me about that sort of stuff
07:53 <KathrynM> well, how many English language schools do you know that teach sex ed
07:53 <clusty> i know i have felt deeply ashamed
07:53 <KathrynM> I think it was 5th grade for me (in school - mom didn't tell me a freaking thing)
07:53 <clusty> as long as bushie does not pay for them, a lot
07:53 <clusty> :D
07:53 <clusty> mom tried being as dimplomatic about ti
07:54 <clusty> but i was asking for it :D
07:54 <clusty> was a curios kid
07:54 <KathrynM> Helen wants to kill me because I picked the science book she's using.
07:54 <KathrynM> heh... why am I not surprised about your curiosity.
07:54 <clusty> well I was curious about stuff which should not have :D
07:54 <clusty> like:
07:55 <clusty> what happens when the momma and poppa don't want the kid
07:55 <clusty> :D
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07:55 <KathrynM> whoa
07:55 <clusty> with the footnote that during those times you go to jail for abortion
07:55 <clusty> in full commie era
07:55 <clusty> :D
07:55 <KathrynM> I just read the books my mum's doc gave her when she was expecting my youngest brother. I was 9
07:56 <clusty> :D
07:56 <clusty> so you got the full gory medical perspective
07:56 <KathrynM> pretty much
07:56 <KathrynM> I was a well educated 9 year old.
07:56 <KathrynM> On the way to the hospital when she was in labor with Chris, I asked how many cm she was dialated :D
07:57 <clusty> i remember charming girls in second grade about lasers
07:57 <clusty> transistors
07:57 <clusty> and force of gravity
07:57 <clusty> :D
07:57 <KathrynM> lol
07:57 <clusty> those were my bedtime stories of my paps
07:57 <clusty> :D
07:57 <KathrynM> I was not your typical child.
07:57 <KathrynM> that's awesome
07:57 <clusty> i am laughing my ass off when i hear myself
07:57 <clusty> my dad taped me asking all those dumb questions
07:58 <KathrynM> lol
07:58 <KathrynM> gah....
07:58 <KathrynM> grep, not grup
07:58 <clusty> raser :D
07:58 <clusty> i could not pronounce L
07:58 <clusty> :D
07:58 * KathrynM bangs head on desk
07:58 <clusty> as a kid
07:59 <clusty> whats wrong?
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07:59 <KathrynM> nothing, trying something Eric recommended I look at
07:59 <KathrynM> But grup won't do anything :)
08:00 <clusty> who's eric?
08:00 <clusty> :D
08:00 <KathrynM> Eric Myers (from Pirates)
08:00 <clusty> rite
08:00 <KathrynM> :)
08:00 <clusty> he is not hanging around here?
08:01 <KathrynM> nah. I've never seen him in #boinc.
08:03 <KathrynM> hahahahahaha!!!!
08:03 <KathrynM> "Then there are makefiles, which you may be ready for now."
08:03 <clusty> whats the reason of joy?
08:04 <KathrynM> not necessarily joy, but definitely amusement
08:06 <clusty> wow. did not expect this much dedication from testers
08:06 <clusty> :D
08:06 <KathrynM> your project?
08:06 <clusty> no
08:06 <clusty> you and your projects
08:06 <clusty> :D
08:06 <KathrynM> what do you mean?
08:07 <clusty> you seem to be helping out quite a bit to weed out bugs
08:07 <clusty> with pirates
08:07 <clusty> and stuff
08:07 <KathrynM> some.
08:07 <KathrynM> I can report what I see.
08:07 <clusty> running alpha client if i am not mistaking also
08:07 <KathrynM> On Windows yeah.
08:07 <KathrynM> I was helping alpha test Eric's rpm too.
08:07 <KathrynM> But it was using a stable build of BOINC.
08:08 <KathrynM> I suppose I should download and give 5.10.42 a whirl and see how that works.
08:08 <clusty> i was considering to get involved into building deb packages of the server
08:08 <KathrynM> I compiled the client, but not the manager last week (or maybe the week before that)
08:08 <clusty> wanna try the manager?
08:09 <clusty> its quite easy
08:09 <KathrynM> I don't have wxWidgets and stuff yet.
08:09 <clusty> thats the sercret
08:09 <KathrynM> And it's getting late here.
08:09 <clusty> under windows you just compile WX
08:09 <clusty> set an env var
08:09 <clusty> and alakazam
08:09 <KathrynM> oh god..........
08:09 <clusty> :D
08:09 <KathrynM> hell no
08:09 <KathrynM> I tried and tried and tried
08:09 <clusty> same for linux
08:09 <KathrynM> No luck
08:09 <clusty> took me a week to figure it out
08:10 <KathrynM> Talk about banging my head into a brick wall.
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08:10 <clusty> ..and with the help of the friendly boinc crew got it compiling
08:10 <KathrynM> If I'm ever super super bored and can't find anything interesting to do on Linux, then I'll redownload VS and try it again.
08:10 <clusty> ummm
08:10 <KathrynM> The chances of that happening are slim to none.
08:10 <clusty> you better have the full VS
08:11 <clusty> and not VSexpress
08:11 <KathrynM> Jord built it with VS express.
08:11 <clusty> cause the later one needs tons of extra libs
08:11 <KathrynM> We were trying to build it at the same time.
08:11 <KathrynM> Him on 2K me on Vista
08:11 <clusty> if you get a torrent of the full one its peanuts
08:11 <clusty> i feel no remorse stealing form billy
08:11 <clusty> :D
08:11 <KathrynM> About the only thing that did build without issue was WxWidgets
08:12 <KathrynM> Heh, I can always get it from my brother. He has the volume license key from his uni.
08:12 <KathrynM> How do you think I got XP Pro on the new computer (and my old P4 for that matter)
08:12 <clusty> faster to just download
08:13 <KathrynM> true. It'd take 10 days for it to come in the mail (plus however long it would take him to remember to send it)
08:13 <clusty> if you want a german vista extreme....
08:13 <clusty> :D
08:13 <KathrynM> Hell no. Vista is annoying enough in my native language.
08:14 <clusty> vista is good for your health
08:15 <clusty> keeps you active
08:15 <clusty> :D
08:15 <KathrynM> Linux is better for my sanity (I think).
08:15 <clusty> best weight loss pill
08:15 <KathrynM> lol
08:16 <clusty> :D
08:16 <clusty> if its too comfy you grow fat
08:16 <clusty> :D
08:16 <KathrynM> lol
08:17 <clusty> thats why i am skinny
08:17 <clusty> i am always pissed
08:17 <clusty> and stressed
08:17 <clusty> :D
08:17 <KathrynM> :D
08:20 <KathrynM> hey clusty, you on Facebook?
08:21 <clusty> yeap
08:21 <clusty> vlad lazar
08:22 <KathrynM> which one?
08:24 <clusty> the dude coming out from waching machine
08:24 <clusty> :D
08:27 <clusty> done
08:27 <clusty> know a guy jack schultz?
08:28 <clusty> some other boinc fella, but I can't peg him
08:28 <clusty> yeah :D
08:28 <clusty> you also have him
08:28 <clusty> :D
08:28 <KathrynM> yup
08:28 <KathrynM> I know Jack.
08:28 <KathrynM> Hydrogen@Home
08:28 <KathrynM> Obviously we're not meant to be friends...
08:29 <KathrynM> vlad lazar
08:29 <clusty> why not?
08:29 <KathrynM> facebook says we can't :(
08:29 <clusty> sure we can
08:29 <clusty> you are my buddy already
08:29 <KathrynM> Give me an error message
08:29 <KathrynM> This person cannot be added as a friend...
08:30 <KathrynM> worked second time around
08:30 <clusty> got the poke?
08:31 <KathrynM> hehehe
08:31 <KathrynM> I have a funny student storry.
08:31 <clusty> weee guinea pigsss
08:31 <KathrynM> I had a little girl, 5 years old, right after I started teaching.
08:31 <KathrynM> :D
08:31 <clusty> and?
08:31 <Romulus> hmm... and is with no internet for like a month, clusty
08:31 <KathrynM> I was sitting at the computer checking email and Tina comes up to me and pokes me in the arm
08:32 <KathrynM> And pokes me and pokes me and pokes me
08:32 <KathrynM> all the while saying "Poke! Poke! Poke!"
08:32 <clusty> :D
08:32 <KathrynM> She did for like 2 months running.
08:32 <KathrynM> DIdn't matter how many times I said, "Tina, don't do that" "Tina, you need to go eat your lunch" "Tina, Jeannie Teacher is calling you"
08:32 <KathrynM> She stood there and poked me in the arm.
08:32 <KathrynM> So I tickled her :)
08:33 <clusty> :D
08:33 <clusty> fav music country?
08:33 <KathrynM> yup
08:33 <clusty> johny cash aint bad
08:33 <clusty> is that country?
08:33 <KathrynM> old country
08:33 <clusty> also credence are cool
08:34 <clusty> they have a hill billy concert
08:34 <clusty> :D
08:34 <clusty> with bucket base
08:34 <clusty> and washboards and stuff
08:34 <clusty> know it?
08:34 <KathrynM> I've heard CCR, but not gone to a concert
08:35 <clusty> me neither \
08:35 <clusty> its some 60,70's TV show
08:36 * KathrynM yawns
08:36 <KathrynM> I'm gonna hit the sack.
08:36 <KathrynM> ttyl
08:36 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...
08:36 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Creedence Clearwater Revival - Down on the corner (at youtube.com)
08:36 <clusty> check this one out
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08:43 <wdsmia_w> &weather 50319
08:43 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 32°F / 0°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.81in / 1009hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h ; Today - Rain likely in the morning...then rain in the late morning and early afternoon. Snow in the late morning and afternoon. New snow accumulation of 3 to 4 inches. High in the upper 30s. Temperature steady or slowly falling in the afternoon. (2 more messages)
08:43 <wdsmia_w> &more
08:43 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the northeast 10 to 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Tonight - Snow in the evening...then a chance of snow after midnight. Areas of blowing snow after midnight. Breezy...colder. Snow accumulation around 2 inches. Total snow accumulation 5 to 6 inches. Low 15 to 20. North wind 15 to 25 mph with gusts (1 more message)
08:43 <wdsmia_w> &more
08:43 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: to around 35 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Tuesday - Mostly cloudy. Breezy...colder. Areas of blowing snow in the morning. High in the mid 20s. Northwest wind 15 to 25 mph.; Winter Weather Advisory for Polk County in effect until 6:00 AM CST on February 26, 2008;
08:53 <CoderForLife> *hello Doug
08:53 <wdsmia_w> mornin Don
08:53 <CoderForLife> all things being equal, I should have a "_w" after my nick
08:54 <wdsmia_w> is it Friday yet?
08:54 <CoderForLife> I am remoted into my home desktop; any form of IM at w@#% is verbotten
08:55 <CoderForLife> not quite Friday, hang on for just a bit
08:56 <wdsmia_w> No IM here just IE :)
09:07 <CoderForLife> We're still cursed with IE6 - crashes once each morning for me
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09:07 <CoderForLife> I also have Firefox, so there is some hope of productivity
09:08 <wdsmia_w> lol
09:08 <CoderForLife> need to wander away to a meeting in a few - cya later
09:08 <wdsmia_w> cya
09:08 <CoderForLife> er "beating"
09:25 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977
09:25 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 46.4°F / 8.0°C | Humidity: 98% | Pressure: 29.56in / 1000.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. Highs 63 to 68. Light winds becoming northwest 15 mph in the afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 42 to 49. Light winds.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Highs 71 to 76. Winds (1 more message)
09:25 <Soul_keeper> &more
09:25 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: northeast 15 mph.;
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10:28 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2008 February 25 - Dawn of the Large Hadron Collider (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)
10:48 <yoyo[RKN]> someone with php knowledge here?
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11:16 <hawmps> wow on the LHC photo
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13:04 <PovAddict> holy crap I have Docking work
13:06 <wdsmia_w> Wow I just made #1 RAC at LHC
13:08 <Tank_Master> same here - I got some 8 docking WUs on each of my comps
13:12 <Tank_Master> n congratz on the RAC, wdsmia_w
13:16 <wdsmia_w> #20 TC need more work to advance
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13:45 <Tank_Master_> wow - animated ASCII art...
13:45 <Romulus> Title: äÌÑ ÌÀÂÉÍÙÈ ÄÒÕÚÅÊ =) (at procool.ru)
13:46 <Romulus> Title: STAR WARS ASCIIMATION - Main Page (at www.asciimation.co.nz)
13:46 <PovAddict> star wars in ASCII
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14:33 <ELGono> hehe pov ;)
14:33 <ELGono> 0ldsk3wl : telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
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14:55 <PovAddict> zombie67: don't even bother with &seen
14:55 <zombie67> still no show, eh?
14:56 <zombie67> got a butt-load of docking@home work.
14:57 <PovAddict> I got like
14:57 <PovAddict> one
14:57 <PovAddict> but I just got two LHC :)
14:57 <PovAddict> I just forced them to run, finished in 4 seconds
14:57 <zombie67> superlink has work again
14:57 <zombie67> hah!
14:58 <PovAddict> "so many projects, so few machines"
14:59 <PovAddict> MTughan last seen on Konfabulator forums 23rd February 2008 - 03:34 PM
14:59 <zombie67> hope he's okay.
14:59 <zombie67> does he have more than one computer?
14:59 <PovAddict> yes
14:59 <zombie67> rules out HW crash
15:00 <PovAddict> "if somebody is off IRC for a week, he probably got hit by a train"
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15:52 <xcamel> re-hi
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15:59 <xcamel> &weather 12074
15:59 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 40.3°F / 4.6°C | Humidity: 52% | Pressure: 29.87in / 1011.4hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; This Afternoon - Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 40s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then becoming mostly cloudy. Lows in the lower 20s. South winds around 5 mph.; Tuesday - Snow likely in the (1 more message)
15:59 <xcamel> &more
15:59 <Romulus> xcamel: morning...then snow or rain in the afternoon. Snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches. Highs in the mid 30s. Southeast winds around 5 mph...becoming east in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Winter Storm Watch for Saratoga County in effect until 2:00 PM EST on February 27, 2008;
15:59 <xcamel> figures..
15:59 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007
15:59 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 53.9°F / 12.2°C | Humidity: 67% | Pressure: 30.35in / 1027.7hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Isolated rain showers in the morning. Highs 50 to 55. Light wind.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the 30s. Light wind.; Tuesday - Partly sunny. Highs 55 to 60. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph.;
16:00 <xcamel> thanks for sending us the storm, TM...
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16:02 <Tank_Master> We havent have any stormes in quite a while now
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16:33 <zombie67> depspid has some work
16:33 <Tank_Master> so I noted
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17:25 <zombie67> BS is slow
17:27 <Tank_Master> somewhat
17:28 <Tank_Master> images sure are though
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17:46 <xcamel> re-back
17:47 <Tank_Master> wb
17:52 <xcamel> they upped our snow totals - 10-16 possible
17:53 <wdsmia> re-hi
17:53 <wdsmia> what a mess out there
17:58 <xcamel> 'lo Doug
18:04 <Tank_Master> yes, all that sun is blinding me
18:04 <xcamel> we just ended two beautiful sunny days..
18:05 <Tank_Master> :)
18:05 <Tank_Master> sun doesnt do anything any good
18:05 <Tank_Master> it only makes things get brown
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18:12 <wdsmia> &weather 50319
18:13 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 33°F / 1°C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 29.81in / 1009hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Heavy Snow | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h ; Late This Afternoon - Snow and rain. New snow accumulation around 1 inch. North wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Tonight - Breezy. Snow early in the evening...then a chance of snow late in the evening. A slight chance (2 more messages)
18:13 <wdsmia> &more
18:13 <Romulus> wdsmia: of snow after midnight. Patchy blowing snow after midnight. Snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches. Total snow accumulation 4 to 5 inches. Low 15 to 20. North wind 15 to 25 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Tuesday - Mostly cloudy. Scattered flurries. High in the mid 20s. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph.; Winter Weather Advisory for Polk County in effect until 12:00 AM CST on (1 more message)
18:13 <wdsmia> &more
18:13 <Romulus> wdsmia: February 26, 2008;
18:17 <xcamel> supposed to drop to 0 by wed night
18:18 <xcamel> then another storm by the weekend..
18:18 <Tank_Master> balmy
18:18 <Tank_Master> might get down to freezing here tonight
18:18 <Tank_Master> and more blinding stuff for us this weekend
18:21 * KathrynM is back (gone 09:44:49)
18:21 <KathrynM> &weather Ulsan
18:21 <Tank_Master> wb
18:21 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 37Â°F / 3Â°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.99in / 1015hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h | Updated: 6:00 AM KST; Chance of Rain. High:44 ° F. / 7 ° C.; Rain. Low:33 ° F. / 1 ° C.; Rain. High:42 ° F. / 6 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:30 ° F. / -1 ° C.; Clear. High:44 ° F. / 7 ° C.; Clear. Low:33 ° F. / 1 ° C.;
18:21 <KathrynM> thx
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18:23 <xcamel> 'lo K
18:23 <KathrynM> mornin'
18:23 <xcamel> evenin, even
18:25 <Tank_Master> afternoon
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18:26 <Tank_Master> howdy TF
18:50 * CoderForLife drops in
18:50 <CoderForLife> hello folks
18:50 <Tank_Master> hey
18:50 <CoderForLife> hello Tank_Master
18:51 <KathrynM> hiya CoderForLife
18:51 <CoderForLife> hello KathrynM in Korea
18:51 <xcamel> 'lo Don
18:51 <CoderForLife> did you all see the LHC pic on APOD?
18:52 <xcamel> the pic was cool..
18:52 <CoderForLife> hey Jay
18:52 <CoderForLife> absolutely
18:53 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140
18:53 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 33.6°F / 0.9°C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.84in / 1010.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - A chance of rain this evening...then rain developing after midnight. Temperatures rising to the upper 30s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Tuesday - Rain in the morning. Snow in the afternoon. Snow (2 more messages)
18:53 <CoderForLife> &more
18:53 <Romulus> CoderForLife: accumulation around an inch. Breezy with morning highs in the upper 30s. West winds 15 to 25 mph. Gusts to 40 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation 100 percent.; Tuesday Night - Mostly cloudy. Snow likely in the evening...then a chance of snow showers after midnight. Total accumulation of 1 to 3 inches possible. Blustery and much colder with lows around 20. Northwest winds 15 to 25 mph (1 more message)
18:53 <CoderForLife> blah
18:53 <CoderForLife> &more
18:53 <Romulus> CoderForLife: with gusts to 40 mph. Chance of snow 70 percent.;
18:53 <xcamel> that thing is so big, I hope they don't light it up and create a black hole or something stupid..
18:54 * CoderForLife kicks his virtual dog
18:54 <xcamel> real life 'half life'
18:54 <KathrynM> wow. that's one impressive piece of machinary.
18:54 <CoderForLife> you know, I was going to mention that if they can't make a black hole on the surface of the earth with that thing, it can't be done
18:54 <KathrynM> lol
18:55 <CoderForLife> they finally coerced Stephen Hawking into agreeing that that wouldn't happen
18:56 <CoderForLife> he was worried
18:56 <CoderForLife> oh, by half life you mean rip a hole into another dimension?
18:57 <CoderForLife> Mesa Labs or whatever it's called in the game?
18:59 <Tank_Master> what game?
18:59 <xcamel> hl was my favorite game of all time
18:59 <CoderForLife> Half Life
19:00 <Tank_Master> crap life
19:01 <CoderForLife> well - I'm away for the rest of the evening - tc boincfolks
19:01 <xcamel> baah..
19:01 * CoderForLife ducks out
19:04 <Tank_Master> lol
19:04 <Tank_Master> tc cfl
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19:12 <KathrynM> hi ho hi ho, it's off to .......... well, you know how the rest of the song goes
19:12 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...
19:12 <Tank_Master> hf!
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19:19 <MTughan> I'm back for now... Dad confiscated my laptop.
19:20 <MTughan> zombie67: How'd the 64-bit Mac client work?
19:20 <Tank_Master> wb MT
19:20 <MTughan> For now.
19:20 <Tank_Master> hehe
19:20 <Tank_Master> whats up with the laptop?
19:21 <MTughan> Nothing. It's English.
19:21 <Tank_Master> ?
19:22 <MTughan> English mark in school. Missed one fucking assignment, and my mark's down to 33%.
19:22 <wdsmia> asks MTughan to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.
19:22 <Tank_Master> ahh
19:23 <Tank_Master> well, dont miss it ;)
19:23 <MTughan> Heh.
19:23 <Tank_Master> btw, wdsmia, what do you think a grade of "f" meens?
19:23 <Tank_Master> "fuched"
19:23 <MTughan> I did pass 200K a few days ago though, so it's not all bad. :D
19:24 <Tank_Master> nice
19:24 <MTughan> Now I'm just worried about a WCG WU due tomorrow. Gonna be done though.
19:24 <Tank_Master> ahh
19:25 <Tank_Master> depspid has work
19:25 <MTughan> Firing up the VM...
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19:26 <MTughan> &any zombie67
19:26 <Romulus> MTughan: zombie67 was last seen in #boinc 2 hours and 59 seconds ago: <zombie67> BS is slow
19:26 <MTughan> Hmm, not for a while...
19:28 <MTughan> DepSpid has work? Just didn't get any...
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19:29 <Tank_Master> did anyway
19:30 <Tank_Master> up, sorry, its out of work now
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19:30 <MTughan> 'lo e
19:30 <xcamel> Hi Ed
19:32 <efc> Moo
19:32 <Tank_Master> eek
19:33 <Tank_Master> it speaks
19:33 <MTughan> Most people do.
19:33 <Tank_Master> but but..
19:33 <Tank_Master> efc...
19:33 <Tank_Master> person?
19:33 <MTughan> I would assume he's living at least.
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19:33 <MTughan> Most people here do. Excluding Rommie.
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19:33 <Tank_Master> so does pov, but that doesnt prove anything
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19:34 <PovAddict> I what?
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19:34 <MTughan> One sec...
19:35 <Tank_Master> see?
19:35 <Tank_Master> hehe
19:35 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Miscellany - post number 918249 (at www.pastebin.ca)
19:35 <Tank_Master> j/k
19:35 <Tank_Master> you didnt start at the beginning
19:35 <MTughan> It's enough.
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19:39 <zombie67> i got some BRATS!
19:39 <MTughan> Hey zombie!
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19:40 <Tank_Master> 2/25/2008 4:39:20 PM|BRaTS@Home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 1 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
19:40 <Tank_Master> 2/25/2008 4:39:26 PM|BRaTS@Home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
19:40 <Tank_Master> 1 second?
19:40 <PovAddict> I don't have a BRaTS account :<
19:40 <Tank_Master> get one
19:40 <zombie67> hi MT!
19:40 <Tank_Master> hi Z
19:40 <zombie67> long time!
19:41 <MTughan> Yeah... Dad took away my laptop. >_>
19:41 <Tank_Master> Mr n00b MTughan didnt turn in an assignemnt
19:41 <zombie67> ouch!
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19:41 <zombie67> yeah, it worked great!
19:41 <MTughan> One assignment! And my mark goes down to 33%!
19:41 <Tank_Master> lol
19:41 <Tank_Master> shoulda dont it, man
19:42 <zombie67> however, 4 projects would not give up 32 bit apps: TANPAKU, SZTAKI, RCN, and ..i forgot the 4th
19:43 <MTughan> They have x86_64 apps?
19:43 <zombie67> no
19:43 <PovAddict> no, they don't
19:43 <Tank_Master> Ralph
19:43 <PovAddict> and they have old server code that doesn't understand alt_platform
19:43 <zombie67> I am saying they did not give me 32 bit work
19:43 <Tank_Master> and Einstine?
19:43 <MTughan> Oh...
19:43 <zombie67> yeah! RALPH!
19:43 <zombie67> einstein worked
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19:43 <Tank_Master> ahh, ok
19:44 <Tank_Master> wasnt sure it it did or not
19:44 <zombie67> TM, this is OSX 64 bit client
19:44 <Tank_Master> they are talking about sending CPU spicific apps to everyone
19:44 <zombie67> I saw that
19:44 <Tank_Master> (einstine)
19:44 <Tank_Master> great effert on their part of they do
19:49 <efc> If they'd just write it all in Java, it would be so easy
19:49 <Tank_Master> java?
19:50 <Tank_Master> your insane?
19:50 <efc> JAVA
19:50 <Tank_Master> java is crap
19:50 <PovAddict> efc: the apps?
19:50 <Tank_Master> worse POSoftware made
19:50 * efc tosses the incendiary bomb in and walks away
19:50 <efc> Yes
19:50 <PovAddict> PrimeGrid admin told me some random guy emailed him about using *Flash*
19:50 <Tank_Master> y?
19:51 <MTughan> O_O
19:51 <efc> Brilliant!
19:51 <PovAddict> idea being that the user just visits a website and he's crunching
19:51 <Tank_Master> ahh, again, y?
19:51 <PovAddict> I dunno
19:51 <Tank_Master> lol
19:51 <PovAddict> he compared ActionScript performance to Java
19:51 <PovAddict> but I say neither would be as fast as PrimeGrid apps, optimized with assembly code
19:51 <MTughan> No.
19:52 <Tank_Master> what if someone cant install falsh for some reason?
19:52 <efc> It is a shame you can't describe a scientific task abstractly enough to be portably compilable, with good performance
19:52 <PovAddict> I wrote an md5 cracker in JS
19:52 <PovAddict> you won't believe how slow it is
19:52 <PovAddict> 4 seconds to do 26 hashes
19:53 <Tank_Master> slower than molassus diped in LN2?
19:53 <Romulus> Title: Surprise (at 184.108.40.206)
19:54 <efc> We need an XLM-To-Roman-Numerals converter for the Intercal version
19:54 <efc> err XML
19:54 <efc> endian issue
19:55 <MTughan> XML to Roman numerals? WTF?
19:55 <PovAddict> MTughan: Intercal...
19:55 <MTughan> I obviously don't know what Intercal is...
19:55 <PovAddict> you're better off not knowing
19:56 <PovAddict> an example: you know how 'goto' is bad practice?
19:56 <Tank_Master> goto is awsome
19:56 <Tank_Master> easy to use
19:56 <PovAddict> intercal solved that by replacing 'go to' with 'come from'
19:56 <Tank_Master> lol
19:56 <MTughan> Uh... Nice.
19:56 <Tank_Master> "come from" your mom
19:57 <Romulus> Title: COMEFORM - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
19:57 <Romulus> Title: COMEFROM - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
19:58 <efc> HALT AND CATCH FIRE
19:58 <efc> PLEASE GIVE UP
19:58 <Tank_Master> anywho, ill bbl
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21:01 <xcamel> poof
21:01 <MTughan> You disappeared?
21:04 <zombie67> in a puff of logic
21:04 <MTughan> Heh.
21:05 <xcamel> double parked in a parallel universe..
21:05 <MTughan> You're a graviton?
21:05 <xcamel> I lost an electron..
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22:07 <MTughan> I'm off for now...
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23:39 <PovAddict> seen ti
23:39 <PovAddict> it*
23:39 <Tank_Master> fikin huge
23:47 <Tank_Master> 8 stories high
23:47 <Tank_Master> (at least)