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03:10 <efc> &weather 31088
03:10 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 27°F / -3°C | Humidity: 70% | Pressure: 30.26in / 1024hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 20s. Northwest winds 5 to 15 mph shifting to the west after midnight.; Thursday - Sunny. Highs in the mid 50s. West winds up to 10 mph.; Thursday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s. Light and (1 more message)
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04:06 <yoyo[RKN]> &wetter berlin
04:06 <Romulus> I don't have a clue, yoyo[RKN].
04:06 <yoyo[RKN]> shit
04:07 <wdsmia> asks yoyo[RKN] to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.
04:07 <yoyo[RKN]> &weather berlin
04:07 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 89Â°F / 32Â°C | Humidity: 33% | Pressure: 29.84in / 1010hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 2mph / 4km/h | Updated: 6:00 PM CST; Chance of Rain. High:80 ° F. / 27 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:75 ° F. / 24 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:87 ° F. / 31 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:78 ° F. / 26 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:89 ° F. / 32 ° C.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. (1 more message)
04:07 <yoyo[RKN]> &weather berlin,germany
04:07 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 43Â°F / 6Â°C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h | Updated: 9:50 AM CET; Overcast. High:44 ° F. / 7 ° C.; Overcast. Low:37 ° F. / 3 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. High:48 ° F. / 9 ° C.; Rain. Low:41 ° F. / 5 ° C.; Rain. High:44 ° F. / 7 ° C.; Rain. Low:37 ° F. / 3 ° C.;
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04:30 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140
04:30 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 16.1°F / -8.8°C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 30.13in / 1020.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Highs in the lower 30s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of snow in the evening...then occasional snow after midnight. Snow accumulation an inch or less. Lows in the upper 20s. Southeast (1 more message)
04:30 <CoderForLife> &more
04:30 <Romulus> CoderForLife: winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 80 percent.; Friday - Occasional rain and snow early...then a chance of rain in the afternoon. Little or no snow accumulation. Not as cold with highs in the lower 40s. Southwest winds 10 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of precipitation 80 percent.;
04:35 <CoderForLife> &seen quail
04:35 <Romulus> CoderForLife: quail was last seen in #boinc 1 day, 15 hours, 11 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <quail> oh sorry to hear that, hope she gets better soon
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04:38 <FreeLarry58> morn CoderForLife
04:39 <FreeLarry58> &weather 98366
04:39 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: Temperature: 45°F / 7°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 30.26in / 1025hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers. Lows near 40. Southwest wind to 10 mph.; Thursday - Partly sunny. Highs in the 50s. Light wind.; Thursday Night - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the mid 30s to lower 40s. South wind to 10 mph in the evening (1 more message)
04:39 <CoderForLife> morning favorite postal worker
04:39 <Romulus> and to you to Romulus
04:39 <FreeLarry58> lol yeah monday is here
04:39 <FreeLarry58> &more
04:39 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: becoming light.;
04:40 <CoderForLife> now there's a goof report
04:40 <CoderForLife> er good =)
04:40 <CoderForLife> FreeLarry58 becoming light
04:41 * CoderForLife jumps up and down in the back of the room, shouting
04:41 <CoderForLife> *pick me* *pick me*
04:42 <FreeLarry58> er for what the lotto winner?
04:42 <CoderForLife> becoming light
04:42 <FreeLarry58> ohh
04:42 <FreeLarry58> know your hoping for my temps
04:43 <FreeLarry58> 45 at almost 2 am
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04:43 <CoderForLife> you haven't gotten you permanent drivers license yet?
04:44 <CoderForLife> =)
04:44 <FreeLarry58> ?? who me - cant even think about that when only 5
04:44 <CoderForLife> I wuz thinking that
04:44 <FreeLarry58> lol
04:44 <FreeLarry58> it expires when i turn 9
04:44 <CoderForLife> 45F would cause an awesome melting
04:45 <FreeLarry58> then you could worry about flash floods
04:45 <FreeLarry58> been in mid to high 50's last couple days
04:45 <clusty> ahoy
04:45 <FreeLarry58> arg avast matey
04:46 <CoderForLife> so you're msierable with all that heat
04:46 <CoderForLife> and miserable too
04:46 <FreeLarry58> machines getting that way - thinking about turning on cooling cycle for heatpump now
04:47 * CoderForLife looks at boinc status
04:47 <CoderForLife> was a nice batch of LHC WUs yesterday
04:48 <FreeLarry58> yeah until thier server started to get shared memory errors
04:49 <FreeLarry58> + 1,568.37 since then until the next two updates anyway
04:49 <FreeLarry58> for boinc total
04:51 <FreeLarry58> CoderForLife you ever get all your accounts condensed together or still have 3 or 4?
04:52 <CoderForLife> I did nothing
04:52 <CoderForLife> I used the same user name and e-mail address for everything
04:52 <FreeLarry58> ohh still several then unless you put several different projects on each machine
04:52 <CoderForLife> afaik
04:53 <Romulus> 20 threads at once...
04:53 * FreeLarry58 is remembering from past year or so when he last looked
04:53 <CoderForLife> I have some boxes with only one project
04:53 <FreeLarry58> think that was the problem with you getting several acct on boincstats
04:54 <CoderForLife> this machine was 20 projects
04:54 <CoderForLife> I had no idea that was the issue
04:54 <CoderForLife> I didn't know what caused it
04:55 * CoderForLife sniffs the air
04:55 <CoderForLife> ... breakfast ...
04:55 <FreeLarry58> thats what did it - had same problem during the beta phase
04:55 <FreeLarry58> good eating then
04:55 <CoderForLife> brb
04:59 * KathrynM is back (gone 05:39:06)
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05:01 <FreeLarry58> morn KathrynM
05:01 <KathrynM> evenin
05:02 <FreeLarry58> lol forgot the time difference - happy friday
05:02 <FreeLarry58> or still thursday?
05:02 <KathrynM> still thursday
05:02 <CoderForLife> b w/b
05:02 <KathrynM> but i'm home from w*&%
05:02 <KathrynM> 9 to 6 + an hour long meeting
05:02 <FreeLarry58> ahh the monsters are back home with loving family(s) then
05:03 <KathrynM> thankfully yes
05:03 <KathrynM> and i'm home with the psycho guinea pig
05:03 <FreeLarry58> with a ton of homew/*-
05:03 <FreeLarry58> get it a bigger running wheel
05:04 <FreeLarry58> of course when they get to 4 lbs they make good eating
05:04 * FreeLarry58 needs larger fish tank to get goldfish to eating size
05:05 <KathrynM> she's getting fat. no wonder they call them pigs. they eat like 'em
05:05 <FreeLarry58> yup
05:21 <CoderForLife> well - about time to roll off to w@#%
05:21 <CoderForLife> cya folks
05:22 * CoderForLife folds himself into a generally spherical shape, and rolls away
05:31 <quail> hey CoderForLife, you were looking for me?
05:31 <quail> CoderForLife: hi, how are you mate?
05:31 <quail> oh damn I have missed him :-(
05:48 <xcamel_away> boo
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06:26 <hawmps> lo
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08:27 <HeXiLeD> good morning
08:27 <PovAddict> wow, it just very suddenly started raining
08:27 <PovAddict> hi HeXiLeD
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08:29 <HeXiLeD> im having a problem with my boinc / rosetta account. no matter what i do ( and i have this running for the past 3 months ) i never have credit there. adn this month i claimed 18 and they gave me 16. it was there for a few days and now its gone
08:29 <HeXiLeD> so.. what am i missing here?
08:29 <PovAddict> is HeXiLeD your username there?
08:29 <HeXiLeD> its freethinker
08:30 <HeXiLeD> right now its shows nothing
08:30 <PovAddict> two machines running Linux?
08:30 <HeXiLeD> just one
08:31 <PovAddict> well I found two accounts named freethinker; one has no computers at all, the other has two Linux machines and www.freethinker.ws as URL
08:31 <PovAddict> which is you? :)
08:31 <HeXiLeD> ok go for the 2 machines
08:31 <HeXiLeD> they were 2
08:31 <Romulus> CoderOnTheCouch: yes, new router
08:32 <HeXiLeD> yes that one PovAddict
08:32 <PovAddict> well, strange
08:32 <PovAddict> is it running right now?
08:32 <HeXiLeD> yes
08:32 <PovAddict> ah, looks like it had errors or something
08:32 <PovAddict> your daily quota was reduced to 1 workunit per day
08:32 <HeXiLeD> under my login i dont even see what you see wth that url
08:33 <PovAddict> Maximum daily WU quota per CPU -> 1/day
08:33 <PovAddict> however, it shows no tasks recently, so I can't really tell why you get errors
08:33 <HeXiLeD> what does that min ?
08:33 <HeXiLeD> *mean
08:33 <PovAddict> and that daily quota could mean you won't get any more tasks till tomorrow :-\
08:35 <HeXiLeD> also, when using boinc gui
08:35 <HeXiLeD> and i try to update
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08:35 <PovAddict> looks like it hasn't contacted rosetta server for a week
08:35 <HeXiLeD> it gets deferred
08:35 <PovAddict> go to Messages tab
08:35 <HeXiLeD> strange. cuz it runs 24/7
08:36 <HeXiLeD> im there
08:36 <PovAddict> so what happens after Sending scheduler request?
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08:38 <Romulus> Title: Nopaste - No description (at rafb.net)
08:38 <HeXiLeD> that
08:38 <PovAddict> not requesting new work?!
08:39 <PovAddict> go to projects tab
08:39 <HeXiLeD> i have no idea
08:39 <HeXiLeD> ok
08:39 <PovAddict> and click on rosetta
08:39 <PovAddict> what are the buttons on the left? Update, Suspend, and?
08:39 <HeXiLeD> yes
08:40 <HeXiLeD> allow new tasks
08:40 <HeXiLeD> reset
08:40 <HeXiLeD> detach
08:40 <PovAddict> you have it set not to get more work :) click [allow new tasks]
08:41 <HeXiLeD> says now: no new tasks
08:41 <PovAddict> yep, "clicking this button will make it get no new tasks"
08:41 <PovAddict> now try updating again
08:41 <HeXiLeD> i did and i get deferred again
08:42 <PovAddict> paste messages again
08:42 <Romulus> Title: Nopaste - No description (at rafb.net)
08:43 <HeXiLeD> under tasks e just did resume
08:43 <HeXiLeD> under tasks I just did resume
08:43 <PovAddict> that task is way too old, abort it
08:43 <HeXiLeD> done
08:44 <PovAddict> now it should try to get more...
08:44 <HeXiLeD> ok and why dont i see anything in my account on the website ?
08:44 <PovAddict> what do you mean "anything"?
08:44 <PovAddict> no credits?
08:45 <PovAddict> probably you never returned any work in time, or all you returned had errors
08:45 <HeXiLeD> i had 16 credits
08:45 <HeXiLeD> they granted me 16
08:45 <PovAddict> well those tasks were removed long ago, so I can't check what happened with your 16 credits
08:46 <HeXiLeD> and i allways get: communication deferred
08:46 <HeXiLeD> why is this?
08:46 <PovAddict> it means it won't communicate *again* until that time passes
08:46 <HeXiLeD> ok
08:47 <HeXiLeD> in this case .. 4 minutes?
08:47 <PovAddict> yeah
08:47 <HeXiLeD> after 4 min. it does the same
08:47 <PovAddict> it can't be contacting the server every second... :)
08:47 <PovAddict> do you have anything in Tasks tab now?
08:48 <PovAddict> or Work or whatever it was called in your GUI
08:49 <HeXiLeD> tasks has nothing
08:49 <PovAddict> and do you still see (not requesting new work or reporting completed tasks) on Messages?
08:49 <HeXiLeD> yes
08:49 <PovAddict> or do you see any "requesting .... seconds of work"?
08:50 <HeXiLeD> nop
08:50 <PovAddict> hrm
08:51 <HeXiLeD> ok it did it now
08:51 <PovAddict> and you seem to have got one
08:51 <HeXiLeD> requesting 8640 of new work
08:51 <HeXiLeD> its updating ..
08:51 <HeXiLeD> starting tasks
08:51 <PovAddict> see work tab
08:51 <HeXiLeD> i see stuff in tasks now
08:52 <PovAddict> well, don't suspend it or anything... you won't get any credit if you don't finish it by March 9th
08:52 <HeXiLeD> well the box works 24/7
08:53 <PovAddict> has anybody else here run Rosetta recently?
08:53 <PovAddict> KathrynM: you still around?
08:53 <HeXiLeD> i guess i clicked on something without knowing
08:53 <KathrynM> yeah
08:53 <HeXiLeD> PovAddict: if i do reset project do i lose all the credits ?
08:54 <PovAddict> HeXiLeD: no, but you lose the work you have in progress
08:54 <PovAddict> and apparently you won't get more till tomorrow
08:54 <PovAddict> KathrynM: any idea how long their current tasks are?
08:54 <HeXiLeD> ok
08:54 <KathrynM> user configurable run time on Rosie
08:54 <KathrynM> I think default is 3 hours
08:55 <PovAddict> yeah but they have new beta tasks... dunno if those follow settings yet
08:55 <KathrynM> they do
08:55 <KathrynM> rosetta, rosetta beta and minirosetta all do
08:58 <HeXiLeD> PovAddict: so i guess i have everything ok now .
08:58 <HeXiLeD> thank you for the help :)
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09:02 <KathrynM> *sigh*
09:02 <KathrynM> Poor Henri
09:02 <KathrynM> How can I start the X?
09:02 <PovAddict> no X
09:02 <PovAddict> get over it
09:02 <PovAddict> <.<
09:02 <KathrynM> Not that I'd know how to start X. But I'm not thinking about setting up a server
09:02 <PovAddict> >.>
09:03 <KathrynM> lol
09:03 <PovAddict> the new VM has no graphical interface, so he just can't
09:03 <KathrynM> I like clusty'
09:03 <KathrynM> errr
09:03 <KathrynM> I like clusty's response
09:04 <clusty> which is that?
09:04 <clusty> :D
09:04 <desti> startx
09:04 <clusty> ohh that
09:04 <clusty> KathrynM, whats so great about my response
09:04 <clusty> tell me how smart I am
09:04 <clusty> :D
09:05 <KathrynM> the part about not needing a gui
09:05 <clusty> i bloody wish I would just die than continue developing win apps
09:06 <KathrynM> lol
09:06 <HeXiLeD> $ startx
09:06 <KathrynM> I wish I could die rather than grade my students' writing
09:06 <PovAddict> HeXiLeD: yeah, except the VM has no X installed at all :)
09:07 <HeXiLeD> humm..
09:07 <clusty> well you can install X
09:07 <HeXiLeD> why is it need? i mean to use what kind of GUIÂ´s ?
09:07 <clusty> nothing prevenmts you
09:07 <HeXiLeD> *guis
09:08 <clusty> dunno
09:08 <PovAddict> it's a virtual machine supposed to run as a *server*, and this guy expects to find X on it...
09:08 <clusty> ppl get scared of vim/nano
09:08 <clusty> bahhh
09:08 <PovAddict> if he needs X to do stuff, he shouldn't be trying to setup a boinc server
09:08 <clusty> the 16core machine I admin here has X :D
09:08 <HeXiLeD> boinc has a cmd line interface
09:08 <clusty> cause my boss wants it good looking
09:08 <clusty> :D
09:08 <KathrynM> well vim is scary
09:08 <HeXiLeD> boinc_cmd
09:08 <KathrynM> he's trying to set up the server
09:09 <clusty> i never used boinc_cmd
09:09 <clusty> just the GUI thing
09:09 <PovAddict> boinc_cmd sucks :)
09:09 * KathrynM is guilty of relying on boinc gui
09:09 <clusty> here is a dud with sense
09:09 <clusty> :D
09:09 <clusty> i could probably figure it out
09:09 <KathrynM> a dud?
09:09 <PovAddict> 1:1 mapping of the internal protocol
09:09 <KathrynM> :p
09:10 <clusty> dud and dudette
09:10 <clusty> :D
09:10 <Romulus> hydrogen -> car -> water out the tail pipr
09:10 <KathrynM> dude and dudette even
09:10 <clusty> dud is shorter :D
09:10 * KathrynM threatens to pull rommie's ram
09:10 <PovAddict> our messages -> Romulus -> random sh*t
09:10 <HeXiLeD> $ boinc_cmd
09:10 <HeXiLeD> Usage: boinc_cmd [--host hostname] [--passwd passwd] command
09:10 <HeXiLeD> Give --help as a command for a list of commands
09:10 <clusty> damn. i starting to speak like idiot kidz
09:10 <clusty> :D
09:10 <KathrynM> hey no pickin' on lolcats
09:10 <PovAddict> clusty: wats rong wid de wai i rite
09:11 <KathrynM> they give much needed laughs
09:11 <PovAddict> &Katz!
09:11 <KathrynM> especially when students' writing reminds me of them
09:11 * KathrynM wonders if I should open the electric bill
09:11 <clusty> PovAddict, mercyyyyy
09:11 <clusty> :D
09:11 <PovAddict> awww cute 1st image on icanhascheezburger
09:12 <clusty> i like the "i baked you a cookie but i eated it" pic
09:12 <clusty> :D
09:12 <clusty> know it?
09:13 <PovAddict> there's loads of those :)
09:13 <PovAddict> I like the ones with the bukkit
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09:15 <KathrynM> I still like my xo pic
09:16 <KathrynM> well, my mod of Eric's pic of his xo
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09:16 <PovAddict> http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/2001982351398543517_rs.jpg <- the pic that started it all
09:17 <clusty> the bad idea puic kicks ass
09:17 <Romulus> Title: walrus « Lolcats n Funny Pictures - I Can Has Cheezburger? (at icanhascheezburger.com)
09:20 <clusty> boket walrus suxorz
09:21 <hawmps> &Katz!
09:24 <clusty> bad english is just great
09:24 <clusty> lets not forget engrish.com
09:25 <PovAddict> o_O
09:25 <KathrynM> I need to bring home my students' journals and let you read a few of their sentences.
09:25 <KathrynM> you've never seen engrish.com PovAddict?
09:26 <PovAddict> uh nope
09:26 <KathrynM> heh. always good for a laugh
09:28 <KathrynM> I once saw a person walkig down the street with a teeshit that said f-you in huge letters
09:28 <wdsmia> asks KathrynM to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.
09:28 <KathrynM> teeshirt even :)
09:30 <KathrynM> well, the gp is noisly reminding me she hasn't gotten her orange slices this evening
09:30 <KathrynM> and it's 11:30
09:30 <KathrynM> so I guess it's time for me to say nighty night
09:30 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Berlitz learn English ad (at youtube.com)
09:30 <clusty> gnite
09:30 <KathrynM> tgiaf (thank god it's almost friday)
09:30 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...
09:30 <PovAddict> clusty: it's 11:30 am where she is
09:30 <PovAddict> *am*
09:31 <clusty> i immagine
09:31 <PovAddict> then why gnite :)
09:31 <clusty> oops
09:31 <clusty> :D
09:31 <clusty> hmmm
09:31 <clusty> uhhhh
09:32 <PovAddict> I fscked up my iPod touch yesterday
09:32 <KathrynM> 11:30 pm
09:32 <KathrynM> :p
09:33 <KathrynM> new e@h power app is fast
09:33 * PovAddict has a hourglass mouse cursor floating above his head
09:33 <clusty> damn you povvie, made me look
09:33 <clusty> :D
09:33 <KathrynM> lol
09:33 <PovAddict> oh right
09:33 <clusty> they are 7-8h later than me
09:33 <PovAddict> am here, pm there
09:33 <clusty> pov, you in S america?
09:33 <PovAddict> yes
09:34 <PovAddict> before our retarded-DST-change, I was exactly 12 hrs off KathrynM's timezone
09:34 <KathrynM> he's in his own universe :0
09:34 <clusty> must be like 8AM now
09:34 <clusty> or so
09:34 <KathrynM> 12:30 pm?
09:34 <PovAddict> 12 (noon)
09:34 <KathrynM> ha!
09:34 <KathrynM> ok, I'm really going now
09:35 <clusty> gnite
09:35 <Romulus> took me bloody 1 day to recurse tthrough all files/folders on the couch
09:35 <clusty> pov, i picture you do ray tracing ?
09:37 <PovAddict> yes, and my (somewhat hidden now) boinc project does too :)
09:39 <clusty> are you doing some PHD or company work?
09:39 <clusty> or just fun
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09:40 <PovAddict> just for the hell of it
09:40 <PovAddict> what's a PHD? I'm 17
09:40 <clusty> lool
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09:40 <clusty> :D
09:40 <clusty> admirable... :D
09:41 <PovAddict> yea that's how it goes
09:41 <clusty> kiddo
09:41 <clusty> :D
09:41 <KathrynM> david's tried to recruit him at least once :)
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09:41 <PovAddict> my dad tells me about SETI@Home, and next year I'm settin' up my own project
09:41 <clusty> be gone kath
09:41 <KathrynM> yeah yeah
09:41 <clusty> you will regret tomorrow
09:41 <KathrynM> I'm going
09:42 <clusty> shuuh
09:42 <KathrynM> night (for real)
09:42 <clusty> PovAddict, i was into basketball in highschool
09:42 <clusty> ..and fishing :d
09:52 <HeXiLeD> seti is still working ?
09:53 <PovAddict> seems to be
09:56 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Windmill/turbine going wild and finally break (at www.youtube.com)
10:03 <clusty> funky
10:03 <clusty> in bremen its loaded with them
10:04 <hawmps> danger danger..
10:04 <clusty> :D
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10:48 <eidolon> hey folks, is the SET BOINC server toast? I've been getting this for the last 1.5 days or so:
10:49 <eidolon> 2008-02-28 10:47:52 [SETI@home] Deferring scheduler requests for 1 minutes and 0 seconds
10:51 <PovAddict> that looks to me like a problem on YOUR end :)
10:52 <eidolon> eh? how? :)
10:52 <eidolon> oh. hm. the fopen () is failing locally?
10:53 <PovAddict> how did you install BOINC? official binaries or distro package?
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11:04 <PovAddict> eidolon?
11:04 <eidolon> sorry
11:04 * eidolon is in an involved discussion elsewhere.
11:04 <eidolon> official binaries / distro on debian etch
11:05 <PovAddict> I mean did you apt-get install boinc, or download it from boinc.berkeley.edu website?
11:05 <PovAddict> (or built from source? :D)
11:05 <eidolon> aptitude install boinc
11:05 <eidolon> this may just be a permission error.
11:06 <PovAddict> then I guess your data is in /var/lib/boinc?
11:06 <Romulus> Title: pastebin private pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.stonekeep.com)
11:06 <eidolon> yeah, check the mixed permissions.
11:06 <eidolon> they should all be boinc:boinc i think
11:07 <PovAddict> ...ugh
11:07 <eidolon> yeah, looking t my local ubuntu install, most files are boinc:boinc.
11:08 <PovAddict> how did you start boinc?
11:08 <PovAddict> or does it auto-start?
11:08 <eidolon> /etc/init.d/boinc_client restart
11:08 <PovAddict> well I think boinc_client should change to the right user...
11:09 <PovAddict> hmm
11:09 <PovAddict> wonder why you ever ran as boinc
11:09 <eidolon> lemme fiddle permissions a bit. i definately manually start4d it under root by hand a few times on the first machine
11:10 <PovAddict> just chown boinc:boinc on everything
11:10 <eidolon> ehh
11:10 <eidolon> there's some stuff that isn't
11:11 <eidolon> i'm being cautious
11:19 <eidolon> 2008-02-28 11:18:39 [SETI@home] Starting task 12ja07ad.26276.229904.14.7.230_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 513
11:19 <eidolon> tadaaa.
11:19 <Romulus> Title: TED | Talks | Roy Gould: WorldWide Telescope (video) (at www.ted.com)
11:27 <Romulus> Title: WWTelescope (at worldwidetelescope.org)
11:30 <eidolon> so i went trolling for some new users for my boinc team. i got someone who has this massive sun cluster. my stats are... looking good :)
11:30 <PovAddict> sounds fun :)
11:31 <PovAddict> you would do good in getting more people who currently aren't running BOINC at all
11:31 <eidolon> oh, not sun's.
11:31 <eidolon> AMD Opteron clusters.
11:31 <eidolon> 34 of them apparently.
11:31 <PovAddict> since that would be more users for BOINC in general too
11:32 <PovAddict> 34? wow
11:32 <eidolon> true. but i like my stats jumping :)
11:32 <PovAddict> wow that's a jump :)
11:33 <eidolon> quite 8)
11:34 <Romulus> Yeah, but I missed you before.
11:45 * Tank_Master slaps Romulus around a bit with a large trout
11:47 <Tank_Master> wow - that WWT site has nice n clear vids
11:49 <Tank_Master> looks interesting
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12:13 <zombie67> POV, you there?
12:13 <PovAddict> yes
12:14 <zombie67> I think it would be a good idea to have send_result_abort enabled by default. Too many projects don't know about it, and end up wasting crunching resources without realizing.
12:15 <zombie67> Any way to make this change?
12:15 <PovAddict> suggest it on boinc_projects
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12:16 <zombie67> projects?
12:16 <zombie67> why not dev?
12:16 <PovAddict> whatever
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12:18 <zombie67> done
12:20 <Lorvija> Hey, anyone know of a good illustrator?
12:20 <PovAddict> illustrator?
12:21 <Lorvija> well need one banner for one website im designing..
12:21 <PovAddict> vector graphics? try inkscape
12:21 <Lorvija> hmm whats that
12:21 <Lorvija> ?
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12:21 <PovAddict> &google inkscape
12:21 <Romulus> PovAddict: Search took 0.22 seconds: Inkscape . Draw Freely.: <http://www.inkscape.org/>; Inkscape - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inkscape>; Inkscape - Reviews and free Inkscape downloads at Download.com: <http://download.com/Inkscape/3640-2192_4-10527269.html>; SourceForge.net: Inkscape: <http://sourceforge.net/projects/inkscape/>; PC World - PC World Downloads - (2 more messages)
12:21 <Lorvija> i mean i need the person to do it (:
12:22 <PovAddict> oh
12:22 <Lorvija> don't have the talent to do that
12:23 <Lorvija> You happen to know anyone or any channel or how to find..
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12:42 <eidolon> Lorvija: ther'es a couple automated banner-makers out there.
12:42 <eidolon> i whipped up one for my Eve corp in gimp.
12:43 <Lorvija> eidolon well i need a lot more than automated (:
12:43 <eidolon> mmkay.
12:43 <PovAddict> how much are you willing to pay?
12:44 <eidolon> "10 Opteron quad cores for 1 month."
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14:03 <hawmps> &weather 12020
14:03 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 20.7°F / -6.3°C | Humidity: 55% | Pressure: 30.07in / 1018.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Today - Partly sunny. Highs around 19. Northwest winds around 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 4 below. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph in the evening...becoming light and variable.; Friday - Partly (1 more message)
14:03 <hawmps> &more
14:03 <Romulus> hawmps: sunny in the morning...then mostly cloudy with a chance of snow in the afternoon. Cold with highs in the mid 20s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 50 percent.;
14:04 <hawmps> ouchies.
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14:47 <wdsmia_w> &weather 50319
14:47 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 27°F / -3°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Snow | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h ; Rest of Today - Light snow late in the morning...then snow likely late in the afternoon. New snow accumulation around 1 inch. High in the lower 30s. South wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 90 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy until early morning then (1 more message)
14:47 <wdsmia_w> &more
14:47 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: becoming partly cloudy. A 40 percent chance of rain and snow in the evening. Low in the mid 20s. South wind 10 to 15 mph shifting to the west after midnight.; Friday - Mostly sunny. High in the lower 30s. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph.;
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15:19 <mweltin> hey HEY
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15:37 <mweltin> hello PovAddict
15:38 <PovAddict> never buy d-link
15:38 <mweltin> ok
15:38 <PovAddict> sheesh
15:38 <mweltin> sysco then?
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16:04 * xcamel_away is back.
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16:04 <FreeLarry58> lol PovAddict tried d-link many years ago and wasn't satisfied with setup - to difficult
16:04 <xcamel> re-hi
16:04 <FreeLarry58> been using linksys currently
16:04 <FreeLarry58> howdy xcamel mweltin PovAddict
16:05 <PovAddict> I don't find the setup difficuly
16:05 <mweltin> hey hey freeMan
16:05 <PovAddict> but I don't see it working correctly either
16:05 <PovAddict> hope it works fine with the firmware upgrade
16:05 <FreeLarry58> then setup not complete PovAddict
16:05 <FreeLarry58> yeah that did help after two
16:05 <PovAddict> and speaking about firmwares, going to do a second attempt at downgrading my iPod firmware...
16:06 <FreeLarry58> good luck
16:06 <PovAddict> previous attempt yesterday got it bricked
16:06 <FreeLarry58> sounds like some of the new didn't leave
16:07 <PovAddict> iTunes gave an error
16:07 <PovAddict> and iPod stuck showing apple logo on screen
16:07 <PovAddict> tried a dozen times more, kept getting the error
16:07 <PovAddict> worked on my dad's mac
16:08 <FreeLarry58> maybe not the pod but settings itunes expecting that are logged on dl machine
16:08 <PovAddict> so I got it restored, but lost the extra apps (that I didn't even know were optional and "available for only $20")
16:09 <FreeLarry58> yeah aint that the way of it
16:09 <PovAddict> I won't pay $20 for apps I had working just fine yesterday
16:09 * PovAddict crosses fingers
16:10 <FreeLarry58> lol if you want them and you didn't save the previous setup file then you will
16:10 <mweltin> good luck
16:10 <PovAddict> FreeLarry58: the iPod already had the apps by the time it reached my hands, so I didn't even know they were purchased separately
16:10 <FreeLarry58> had to shut down the lappy as the wife wants to take it to seattle - got a 119 credits from it last night
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16:28 <mweltin> great rommie's back
16:28 <mweltin> so peacful without him
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16:43 <FreeLarry58> &bighello for Romulus recovery and for PieSpyRom to get fed
16:43 <Romulus> Hello Aeternus, benje, bryanUC, Celelaptop, Celelibi__, clusty, CoderForLife, codewarrior__, d00m1001, deprecated, desti, ELGono, FreeLarry58, hawmps, HeXiLeD, KathrynM, Lorvija, MacG, mweltin, PieSpyRom, PovAddict, PriitM, redeeman, Romulus, siofwolves, Soul_keeper, Tank_Master, TheFons, wdsmia, wdsmia_w, wraund, and xcamel
16:44 <FreeLarry58> &whatis piespy
16:44 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: "piespy" could be http://lledgerock.com/boinc_logs/boinc-current.png
16:44 <xcamel> found a monster logfile hidden in there I had to compress..
16:44 <FreeLarry58> ohh
16:45 <xcamel> ate up the whole dir..
16:45 <xcamel> and then some..
16:45 <FreeLarry58> well big hello didn't work so guess i'll try this Hello Aeternus, benje, bryanUC, Celelaptop, Celelibi__, clusty, CoderForLife, codewarrior__, d00m1001, deprecated, desti, ELGono, FreeLarry58, hawmps, HeXiLeD, KathrynM, Lorvija, MacG, mweltin, PieSpyRom, PovAddict, PriitM, redeeman, Romulus, siofwolves, Soul_keeper, Tank_Master, TheFons, wdsmia, wdsmia_w, wraund, and xcamel
16:45 <redeeman> :P
16:45 <xcamel> messages.log was 5.3GB
16:45 <FreeLarry58> ouch
16:45 <xcamel> fixed now..
16:45 * FreeLarry58 wonders if he should check his old log files
16:47 <FreeLarry58> just got email on order status and if not here by monday will call credit card company to block payment on it
16:47 <FreeLarry58> just now saying they are ready to ship after a week from order
16:47 <FreeLarry58> when previous email said 1 to 2 days
16:47 <FreeLarry58> took 7 days?
16:48 <Romulus> groan 6" of snow evenin
16:48 <FreeLarry58> wont be ordering from them any time soon
16:49 <FreeLarry58> will also send nasty email to them detailing why i will refuse order if it arrives past monday next
16:57 <xcamel> give 'um hell.
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17:05 <xcamel> zom-bony!
17:07 <zombie67> hi xcamel
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18:16 <wdsmia> re-hi
18:16 <xcamel> 'lo Doug
18:17 <xcamel> thanks for the frigid weather...
18:17 <wdsmia> your welcome
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18:17 <xcamel> we'll set a new record low for 'leap day' tomorrow..
18:18 <wdsmia> &weather 50319
18:18 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 31.5°F / -0.3°C | Humidity: 90% | Pressure: 29.88in / 1011.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Late This Afternoon - Snow likely. Little or no new snow accumulation. South wind around 15 mph. Chance of snow 70 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A 50 percent chance of snow in the evening. Low in the mid 20s. South wind 10 to 15 mph (1 more message)
18:18 <wdsmia> &more
18:18 <Romulus> wdsmia: shifting to the west after midnight.; Friday - Partly sunny. Scattered flurries. High in the lower 30s. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph.;
18:19 <wdsmia> looks like its going to be nice here
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18:34 <mweltin> hey KathrynM
18:36 <KathrynM> mornin'
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18:43 <PovAddict> I can't believe I just connected to my iPod via ssh
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18:44 <KathrynM> you are too geeky for words
18:45 <mweltin> yes he is
18:45 <xcamel> lol - true
18:46 <PovAddict> ok I copied the 'hello world' program I had compiled, then tried to run it, but I keep getting "permission denied"
18:46 <PovAddict> rwxr-xr-x
18:46 <mweltin> HAHAAH DRM maybe?
18:46 <KathrynM> lol
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19:06 <mweltin> so pov what does it run some linux version?
19:06 <mweltin> the iPod I mean
19:06 <PovAddict> it runs OS X
19:07 <mweltin> so how do you connect to it? I'm curious because I'm getting one as a wedding present soon.
19:07 <mweltin> and I don't like them much, or at least I tunes
19:08 <PovAddict> you need a little mess to jailbreak it first
19:08 <PovAddict> then you end up with an installer to get 3rd party apps
19:08 <PovAddict> so you choose OpenSSH from there :)
19:08 <mweltin> waht do you mean jailbreak ?
19:08 <mweltin> hardware hack
19:09 <PovAddict> no hardware touching
19:09 <PovAddict> you need to downgrade the firmware first
19:09 <PovAddict> anyway, currently I'm trying to run stuff on it
19:09 <mweltin> do you need a mac do to it with
19:09 <PovAddict> I copied a compiled binary but when I run it on ssh I get "permission denied"
19:10 <PovAddict> mweltin: no, works on Windows; but may be tricky on Linux due to lack of iTunes
19:11 <mweltin> Liz is getting a new mac
19:15 <nickuwo> Pov, do you think you'll have any free time tonite? I'm still having troubles with the wrapper example :(
19:16 <mweltin> nickuwo, I'm trying to get the wrapper working as well
19:16 <mweltin> what trouble are you having?
19:16 <nickuwo> hehe
19:16 <CoderForLife> hey
19:17 * KathrynM drags my tired arse off to the screaming factory of small humanoids
19:17 <nickuwo> My work units are causing me headaches... I don't really understand how they work
19:17 <KathrynM> laters all
19:17 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...
19:17 <PovAddict> nice way to put it KathrynM :)
19:17 <PovAddict> bye
19:17 <nickuwo> my client is looking for work units that aren't there
19:17 <mweltin> later KathrynM
19:18 <nickuwo> are you having similar problems?
19:18 <mweltin> I just started looking into it last night
19:19 <nickuwo> i c
19:19 <mweltin> haven't tied it yet, but would like to kno what to avoid
19:19 <nickuwo> what are your ultimate goals with BOINC?
19:20 <mweltin> solve large scale STSP's
19:20 <nickuwo> stsp's?
19:20 <xcamel> hmmm.. down to 8F
19:20 <Romulus> i have noticed a problem
19:21 <mweltin> symetric travelings salesman problems
19:21 <nickuwo> cool
19:21 <nickuwo> writing a paper?
19:21 <mweltin> you?
19:21 <Romulus> hmm... you are upper fayl, mweltin
19:21 <nickuwo> Trying to find new lower bounds on ramsey problems
19:22 <mweltin> I'll have to look that one up.
19:22 <nickuwo> hopefully a 4-color graph...
19:22 <mweltin> oooo a graph problem, I like it already
19:22 <nickuwo> :)
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19:23 <CoderForLife> balmy at 31F xcamel
19:23 <mweltin> so is it a graph color problem or what?
19:23 <nickuwo> yea
19:24 <nickuwo> trying to find smallest number of vertexes s.th. all graphs contain subgraphs of a certain color
19:25 <xcamel> I think it'll have to warm up to snow...
19:26 <nickuwo> Pov? no free time?
19:26 <CoderForLife> it could snow carbon dioxide if it's cold enough
19:28 <CoderForLife> I "have to volunteer" some time tomorrow to go to Music Hall and review the disaster recovery plan of the symphony orchestra
19:29 <mweltin> ok I'm not coming up with a simple description of the ramsey, I get the color problem e.g. color verticies so no edge touches the same color at both ends.
19:29 <nickuwo> wikipedia?
19:29 <mweltin> so what is the ramsey deal?
19:29 <CoderForLife> my first question will probably be why the data center is located directly below the lobby fountain
19:30 <nickuwo> you know the party problem?
19:30 <mweltin> party problme, or parity, either way no.
19:31 <nickuwo> so the question you are asking in ramsey theory is...
19:31 <CoderForLife> ok - laterz
19:31 <mweltin> cya cfl
19:31 <nickuwo> How big do certain systems have to get in order to it be neccessary that all the elements share some property
19:33 <nickuwo> dealing with graphs, it becomes how many vetecies must you have to be positive that you have some x-vertex subgraph of a cetain color
19:34 <nickuwo> Smallest example is a triangle subgraph, and it turns out that if you have a 2-colored graph with 6 vertecies, you have to have a triangle of 1 color in the graph
19:34 <nickuwo> square is 18 verticies
19:34 <nickuwo> verticies?
19:34 <nickuwo> sp?
19:35 <nickuwo> anyway, 5 vertex subgraph is somewhere btw 43 - 49
19:35 <nickuwo> i think
19:35 <mweltin> nice
19:35 <mweltin> good luck with that
19:35 <nickuwo> and you can do it for more than 2 colors as well
19:35 <nickuwo> thanks
19:35 <mweltin> so why the wrapper
19:36 <nickuwo> cause I only have a few months, and I don't know c or c++
19:36 <nickuwo> or the BOINC API
19:36 <mweltin> better get started then
19:36 <mweltin> took me two months to get my first app running well.
19:36 <nickuwo> well I have the program already, just need to plug it in...
19:37 <nickuwo> 2 months?
19:38 <mweltin> I'm not a qucik learner
19:38 <mweltin> and I wrote my app from scratch
19:38 <mweltin> along with validators and such
19:38 <nickuwo> that awesome
19:38 <nickuwo> I couldn't do that
19:39 <nickuwo> the boinc api reads like... well something terrible
19:39 <nickuwo> did you have someone help you?
19:40 <mweltin> PovAddict, and the project mailing list
19:40 <nickuwo> cool
19:40 <nickuwo> PovAddict seems to be sick of me... what is the mailing list?
19:40 <mweltin> hahahaha
19:41 <mweltin> he is a popular guy here
19:41 <nickuwo> heh
19:41 <mweltin> email@example.com
19:41 <mweltin> you can sign up for the list at the boinc website.
19:41 <nickuwo> awesome
19:42 <mweltin> you on linux ?
19:43 <mweltin> makes life easier than trying it on windows
19:43 <nickuwo> yea, I'm trying to get it to work on one of those pre-built VWs
19:43 <nickuwo> or VMs
19:44 <mweltin> I'm not good with abstraction layers, the best luck I have had was working on linux or some *nix
19:46 <mweltin> snak time bbiab
19:46 <nickuwo> I'm developing the client for windows tho, I got permission to run it at night on my university's computers, and I only have one box, so it's nice to run the server and client on one machine
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20:04 <mweltin> so where are you getting stuck nickuwo?
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20:11 <xcamel> cool:
20:15 <mweltin> that was cool
20:18 <PovAddict> back
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20:26 <xcamel> >> IP Kill >> 22.214.171.124
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20:32 <wineguy> bye
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20:35 <nickuwo> if cinnamon toast crunch could bowl, it would never score less than 278
20:36 <xcamel> huh?
20:37 <nickuwo> it rocks
20:37 <mweltin> bbl have to go work on a compressor
20:37 <mweltin> later
20:37 <mweltin> good luck nickuwo
20:38 <nickuwo> thanks man, u 2
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23:27 <nickuwo> hey mweltin
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23:34 <mweltin_> I hate my isp
23:34 <mweltin_> so anyway
23:34 <zombie67> yo
23:34 <nickuwo> whats goin on
23:35 <zombie67> mweltin, do you have a choice?
23:35 <zombie67> and even if you do, they would share the same pipe anyway, right?
23:35 <mweltin_> i hate my isp
23:35 <mweltin_> no
23:35 <mweltin_> yes
23:35 <mweltin_> same pipe
23:35 <mweltin_> regardless
23:36 <mweltin_> I missed anything you said nickuwo
23:36 <mweltin_> how do I "wrap" my application
23:36 <nickuwo> ?
23:36 <zombie67> ask pov or yoyo
23:36 <mweltin_> my impression from the wrapper page is that I build the wrapper as a what goes in my apps dir
23:36 <mweltin_> ok
23:37 <nickuwo> do you know anything about how work units work mweltin?>
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23:37 <zombie67> yo runs two projects on his site, both inside wrappers
23:37 <zombie67> yoyo
23:37 <mweltin_> yes
23:37 <nickuwo> perhaps you can help
23:37 <nickuwo> me
23:37 <mweltin_> clusty does as wel
23:37 <mweltin_> well*
23:38 <mweltin_> I can try
23:38 <nickuwo> ok
23:38 <mweltin_> what do you need help with
23:38 <nickuwo> Ithink set everything up correctly but...
23:38 <mweltin_> but...?
23:39 <nickuwo> when I connect with a client, it gives me - [error] State file error: missing file wu1293741967_16_8_0
23:39 <zombie67> FYI, yoyo is here frequently too, but he is in Germany, so account for the time shift
23:39 <nickuwo> and
23:39 <mweltin_> 12 hrs for me
23:39 <mweltin_> you can also find him on aim now and again
23:39 <nickuwo> [error] Can't handle task wu_1203741967_16_8 in scheduler reply
23:40 <nickuwo> ?
23:40 <nickuwo> you know what that means?
23:40 <mweltin_> no
23:40 <nickuwo> mm :)
23:40 <mweltin_> but I'm sure we can figure it out
23:41 <mweltin_> have other work units worked?
23:41 <nickuwo> no
23:41 <mweltin_> where did you pull that err0r message from some log?
23:42 <nickuwo> I turned on the HTTP error messages in my client
23:43 <mweltin_> you ran bin/status ?
23:43 <mweltin_> is everything running ok
23:43 <nickuwo> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/ClientMessages - http debug
23:43 <zombie67> mweltin, you're here twice
23:43 <nickuwo> yes...
23:43 <nickuwo> everyhting is running, and locked
23:44 <mweltin_> yeah don't konw how ot get rid of "me"
23:44 <mweltin_> good
23:44 <mweltin_> so that message comes from the boinc client then
23:44 <nickuwo> yes
23:44 <mweltin_> so that is a good start
23:45 <mweltin_> at least the client is downloading something
23:45 <nickuwo> well... where does the server log stuff?
23:45 <mweltin_> have to check the "slot" dir for
23:45 <mweltin_> $proj_root/HOSTNAME_log
23:45 <mweltin_> sorry log_HOSTNAME
23:46 <nickuwo> ok
23:46 <nickuwo> nuthin in there
23:46 <mweltin_> ok
23:46 <mweltin_> post your job.xml to pastebin.com
23:47 <nickuwo> I think it's some issue with my make_work calls and naming choices
23:47 <nickuwo> ok
23:47 <nickuwo> 1 sec
23:47 <zombie67> mweltin! You are so cool. Giving back as you got.
23:48 <nickuwo> the one in apps?
23:48 <mweltin_> I helped clusty debug a python thing a few days ago
23:48 <mweltin_> least I could do after all the help I got
23:48 <nickuwo> or downloads
23:48 <mweltin_> do your names collide?
23:48 <mweltin_> right now I think its the downloads but I have nothing to base that on.
23:49 <zombie67> did you see? DA actually went along with one of my suggestions.
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23:50 <mweltin_> about what?
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23:50 <Romulus> Title: WrapperApp - BOINC - Trac (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
23:50 <mweltin> I think you need to customize that (not sure)
23:50 <nickuwo> ok
23:50 <zombie67> turning on "server-side abortion" by defautl
23:50 <nickuwo> hmm
23:51 <mweltin> DA finally added Pov's opaque patch to make work on my request.
23:51 <mweltin> good call
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23:51 <mweltin> so nickuwo you just cut and pasted the job.xml as is?
23:51 <nickuwo> yea
23:52 <zombie67> too many projects, esp new ones, have no idea that they are wasting resources without it, when initial replication > quorum.
23:52 <nickuwo> it basically describes how to get the example up annd running on that page... doesn't say anything about custimizing it
23:52 <mweltin> ok so you and I have the same question
23:53 <mweltin> nickuwo, its geared to be more generic
23:53 <nickuwo> dammit
23:53 <mweltin> let me look at the source, what I don't get is how the wrapper gets wrapped around the legacy app.
23:53 <nickuwo> right... I assumed it would explain how to get the "worker" program to work with the wrapper
23:53 <mweltin> do you compile them both together.
23:54 <Romulus> or Work or whatever it was a virus
23:54 <nickuwo> no
23:54 <nickuwo> the wrapper just executes "worker" with some command line parameters, optionally passed by the server
23:55 <nickuwo> in perhaps an input and/or output file
23:55 <nickuwo> and perhpas
23:55 <mweltin> so your app the you are wrapping around is called "worker"?
23:56 <mweltin> for example I whatn to run an app called acotsp
23:56 <nickuwo> yea, it's the demo program that comes with the wrapper program
23:56 <mweltin> ok
23:56 <mweltin> cool
23:56 <mweltin> and what did you put in you project/apps dir?
23:57 <nickuwo> just what that website told me to... both the worker prog and wrapper prog, and that job.xml
23:57 <nickuwo> I basically followed those directions to a t
23:58 <mweltin> hahaah
23:58 <mweltin> you ran update/versions ?
23:58 <nickuwo> except I added a make_work daemon to constantly make work units
23:58 <nickuwo> no
23:58 <nickuwo> :)
23:58 <nickuwo> thats the only thing i didn't do, i think
23:59 <mweltin> what seems odd is that your client wouldn't download anything until you ran that.
23:59 <nickuwo> ran make_work?