IRC logs of #boinc for Thursday, 2008-02-28

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03:10 <efc> &weather 31088

03:10 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 27F / -3C | Humidity: 70% | Pressure: 30.26in / 1024hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 20s. Northwest winds 5 to 15 mph shifting to the west after midnight.; Thursday - Sunny. Highs in the mid 50s. West winds up to 10 mph.; Thursday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s. Light and (1 more message)

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04:06 <yoyo[RKN]> &wetter berlin

04:06 <Romulus> I don't have a clue, yoyo[RKN].

04:06 <yoyo[RKN]> shit

04:07 <wdsmia> asks yoyo[RKN] to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

04:07 <yoyo[RKN]> &weather berlin

04:07 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 89°F / 32°C | Humidity: 33% | Pressure: 29.84in / 1010hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 2mph / 4km/h | Updated: 6:00 PM CST; Chance of Rain. High:80 F. / 27 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:75 F. / 24 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:87 F. / 31 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:78 F. / 26 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:89 F. / 32 C.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. (1 more message)

04:07 <yoyo[RKN]> &weather berlin,germany

04:07 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 43°F / 6°C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h | Updated: 9:50 AM CET; Overcast. High:44 F. / 7 C.; Overcast. Low:37 F. / 3 C.; Partly Cloudy. High:48 F. / 9 C.; Rain. Low:41 F. / 5 C.; Rain. High:44 F. / 7 C.; Rain. Low:37 F. / 3 C.;

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04:30 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

04:30 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 16.1F / -8.8C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 30.13in / 1020.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Highs in the lower 30s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of snow in the evening...then occasional snow after midnight. Snow accumulation an inch or less. Lows in the upper 20s. Southeast (1 more message)

04:30 <CoderForLife> &more

04:30 <Romulus> CoderForLife: winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 80 percent.; Friday - Occasional rain and snow early...then a chance of rain in the afternoon. Little or no snow accumulation. Not as cold with highs in the lower 40s. Southwest winds 10 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of precipitation 80 percent.;

04:35 <CoderForLife> &seen quail

04:35 <Romulus> CoderForLife: quail was last seen in #boinc 1 day, 15 hours, 11 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <quail> oh sorry to hear that, hope she gets better soon

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04:38 <FreeLarry58> morn CoderForLife

04:39 <FreeLarry58> &weather 98366

04:39 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: Temperature: 45F / 7C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 30.26in / 1025hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers. Lows near 40. Southwest wind to 10 mph.; Thursday - Partly sunny. Highs in the 50s. Light wind.; Thursday Night - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the mid 30s to lower 40s. South wind to 10 mph in the evening (1 more message)

04:39 <CoderForLife> morning favorite postal worker

04:39 <Romulus> and to you to Romulus

04:39 <FreeLarry58> lol yeah monday is here

04:39 <FreeLarry58> &more

04:39 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: becoming light.;

04:40 <CoderForLife> now there's a goof report

04:40 <CoderForLife> er good =)

04:40 <CoderForLife> FreeLarry58 becoming light

04:41 * CoderForLife jumps up and down in the back of the room, shouting

04:41 <CoderForLife> *pick me*   *pick me*

04:42 <FreeLarry58> er for what the lotto winner?

04:42 <CoderForLife> becoming light

04:42 <FreeLarry58> ohh

04:42 <FreeLarry58> know your hoping for my temps

04:43 <FreeLarry58> 45 at almost 2 am

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04:43 <CoderForLife> you haven't gotten you permanent drivers license yet?

04:44 <CoderForLife> =)

04:44 <FreeLarry58> ?? who me - cant even think about that when only 5

04:44 <CoderForLife> I wuz thinking that

04:44 <FreeLarry58> lol

04:44 <FreeLarry58> it expires when i turn 9

04:44 <CoderForLife> 45F would cause an awesome melting

04:45 <FreeLarry58> then you could worry about flash floods

04:45 <FreeLarry58> been in mid to high 50's last couple days

04:45 <clusty> ahoy

04:45 <FreeLarry58> arg avast matey

04:46 <CoderForLife> so you're msierable with all that heat

04:46 <CoderForLife> and miserable too

04:46 <FreeLarry58> machines getting that way - thinking about turning on cooling cycle for heatpump now

04:47 * CoderForLife looks at boinc status

04:47 <CoderForLife> was a nice batch of LHC WUs yesterday

04:48 <FreeLarry58> yeah until thier server started to get shared memory errors

04:49 <FreeLarry58> + 1,568.37 since then until the next two updates anyway

04:49 <FreeLarry58> for boinc total

04:51 <FreeLarry58> CoderForLife you ever get all your accounts condensed together or still have 3 or 4?

04:52 <CoderForLife> I did nothing

04:52 <CoderForLife> I used the same user name and e-mail address for everything

04:52 <FreeLarry58> ohh still several then unless you put several different projects on each machine

04:52 <CoderForLife> afaik

04:53 <Romulus> 20 threads at once...

04:53 * FreeLarry58 is remembering from past year or so when he last looked

04:53 <CoderForLife> I have some boxes with only one project

04:53 <FreeLarry58> think that was the problem with you getting several acct on boincstats

04:54 <CoderForLife> this machine was 20 projects

04:54 <CoderForLife> I had no idea that was the issue

04:54 <CoderForLife> I didn't know what caused it

04:55 * CoderForLife sniffs the air

04:55 <CoderForLife> ... breakfast ...

04:55 <FreeLarry58> thats what did it - had same problem during the beta phase

04:55 <FreeLarry58> good eating then

04:55 <CoderForLife> brb

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05:01 <FreeLarry58> morn KathrynM

05:01 <KathrynM> evenin

05:02 <FreeLarry58> lol forgot the time difference - happy friday

05:02 <FreeLarry58> or still thursday?

05:02 <KathrynM> still thursday

05:02 <CoderForLife> b w/b

05:02 <KathrynM> but i'm home from w*&%

05:02 <KathrynM> 9 to 6 + an hour long meeting

05:02 <FreeLarry58> ahh the monsters are back home with loving family(s) then

05:03 <KathrynM> thankfully yes

05:03 <KathrynM> and i'm home with the psycho guinea pig

05:03 <FreeLarry58> with a ton of homew/*-

05:03 <FreeLarry58> get it a bigger running wheel

05:04 <FreeLarry58> of course when they get to 4 lbs they make good eating

05:04 * FreeLarry58 needs larger fish tank to get goldfish to eating size

05:05 <KathrynM> she's getting fat.  no wonder they call them pigs.  they eat like 'em

05:05 <FreeLarry58> yup

05:21 <CoderForLife> well - about time to roll off to w@#%

05:21 <CoderForLife> cya folks

05:22 * CoderForLife folds himself into a generally spherical shape, and rolls away

05:31 <quail> hey CoderForLife, you were looking for me?

05:31 <quail> CoderForLife: hi, how are you mate?

05:31 <quail> oh damn I have missed him :-(

05:48 <xcamel_away> boo

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06:26 <hawmps> lo

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08:27 <HeXiLeD> good morning

08:27 <PovAddict> wow, it just very suddenly started raining

08:27 <PovAddict> hi HeXiLeD

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08:29 <HeXiLeD> im having a problem with my boinc / rosetta account. no matter what i do ( and i have this running for the past 3 months ) i never have credit there. adn this month i claimed 18 and they gave me 16. it was there for a few days and now its gone

08:29 <HeXiLeD> so.. what am i missing here?

08:29 <PovAddict> is HeXiLeD your username there?

08:29 <HeXiLeD> its freethinker

08:30 <HeXiLeD> right now its shows nothing

08:30 <PovAddict> two machines running Linux?

08:30 <HeXiLeD> just one

08:31 <PovAddict> well I found two accounts named freethinker; one has no computers at all, the other has two Linux machines and www.freethinker.ws as URL

08:31 <PovAddict> which is you? :)

08:31 <HeXiLeD> ok go for the 2 machines

08:31 <HeXiLeD> they were 2

08:31 <PovAddict> http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/hosts_user.php?userid=212472

08:31 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1biQ> (at boinc.bakerlab.org)

08:31 <Romulus> CoderOnTheCouch: yes, new router

08:32 <HeXiLeD> yes that one PovAddict

08:32 <PovAddict> well, strange

08:32 <PovAddict> is it running right now?

08:32 <HeXiLeD> yes

08:32 <PovAddict> ah, looks like it had errors or something

08:32 <PovAddict> your daily quota was reduced to 1 workunit per day

08:32 <HeXiLeD> under my login i dont even see what  you see wth that url

08:33 <PovAddict> http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=634133

08:33 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1biR> (at boinc.bakerlab.org)

08:33 <PovAddict> Maximum daily WU quota per CPU -> 1/day

08:33 <PovAddict> however, it shows no tasks recently, so I can't really tell why you get errors

08:33 <HeXiLeD> what does that min ?

08:33 <HeXiLeD> *mean

08:33 <PovAddict> and that daily quota could mean you won't get any more tasks till tomorrow :-\

08:35 <HeXiLeD> also, when using  boinc gui

08:35 <HeXiLeD> and i try to update

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08:35 <PovAddict> looks like it hasn't contacted rosetta server for a week

08:35 <HeXiLeD> it gets deferred

08:35 <PovAddict> go to Messages tab

08:35 <HeXiLeD> strange. cuz it runs 24/7

08:36 <HeXiLeD> im there

08:36 <PovAddict> so what happens after Sending scheduler request?

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08:38 <HeXiLeD> PovAddict: http://rafb.net/p/FIfLnN39.html

08:38 <Romulus> Title: Nopaste - No description (at rafb.net)

08:38 <HeXiLeD> that

08:38 <PovAddict> not requesting new work?!

08:39 <PovAddict> go to projects tab

08:39 <HeXiLeD> i have no idea

08:39 <HeXiLeD> ok

08:39 <PovAddict> and click on rosetta

08:39 <PovAddict> what are the buttons on the left? Update, Suspend, and?

08:39 <HeXiLeD> yes

08:40 <HeXiLeD> allow new tasks

08:40 <HeXiLeD> reset

08:40 <HeXiLeD> detach

08:40 <PovAddict> you have it set not to get more work :) click [allow new tasks]

08:41 <HeXiLeD> says now: no new tasks

08:41 <PovAddict> yep, "clicking this button will make it get no new tasks"

08:41 <PovAddict> now try updating again

08:41 <HeXiLeD> i did and i get deferred again

08:42 <PovAddict> paste messages again

08:42 <HeXiLeD> http://rafb.net/p/o47Y4C68.html

08:42 <Romulus> Title: Nopaste - No description (at rafb.net)

08:43 <HeXiLeD> under tasks e just did resume

08:43 <HeXiLeD> under tasks I just did resume

08:43 <PovAddict> that task is way too old, abort it

08:43 <HeXiLeD> done

08:44 <PovAddict> now it should try to get more...

08:44 <HeXiLeD> ok and why dont  i see anything in my account on the website ?

08:44 <PovAddict> what do you mean "anything"?

08:44 <PovAddict> no credits?

08:45 <PovAddict> probably you never returned any work in time, or all you returned had errors

08:45 <HeXiLeD> i had 16 credits

08:45 <HeXiLeD> they granted me 16

08:45 <PovAddict> well those tasks were removed long ago, so I can't check what happened with your 16 credits

08:46 <HeXiLeD> and i allways get: communication deferred

08:46 <HeXiLeD> why is this?

08:46 <PovAddict> it means it won't communicate *again* until that time passes

08:46 <HeXiLeD> ok

08:47 <HeXiLeD> in this case .. 4 minutes?

08:47 <PovAddict> yeah

08:47 <HeXiLeD> after 4 min. it does the same

08:47 <PovAddict> it can't be contacting the server every second... :)

08:47 <PovAddict> do you have anything in Tasks tab now?

08:48 <PovAddict> or Work or whatever it was called in your GUI

08:49 <HeXiLeD> tasks has nothing

08:49 <PovAddict> and do you still see (not requesting new work or reporting completed tasks) on Messages?

08:49 <HeXiLeD> yes

08:49 <PovAddict> or do you see any "requesting .... seconds of work"?

08:50 <HeXiLeD> nop

08:50 <PovAddict> hrm

08:51 <HeXiLeD> ok it did it now

08:51 <PovAddict> and you seem to have got one

08:51 <HeXiLeD> requesting  8640 of new work

08:51 <HeXiLeD> its updating ..

08:51 <HeXiLeD> starting tasks

08:51 <PovAddict> see work tab

08:51 <HeXiLeD> i see stuff in tasks now

08:52 <PovAddict> well, don't suspend it or anything... you won't get any credit if you don't finish it by March 9th

08:52 <HeXiLeD> well the box works 24/7

08:53 <PovAddict> has anybody else here run Rosetta recently?

08:53 <PovAddict> KathrynM: you still around?

08:53 <HeXiLeD> i guess i clicked on something without knowing

08:53 <KathrynM> yeah

08:53 <HeXiLeD> PovAddict: if i do reset project do i lose all the credits ?

08:54 <PovAddict> HeXiLeD: no, but you lose the work you have in progress

08:54 <PovAddict> and apparently you won't get more till tomorrow

08:54 <PovAddict> KathrynM: any idea how long their current tasks are?

08:54 <HeXiLeD> ok

08:54 <KathrynM> user configurable run time on Rosie

08:54 <KathrynM> I think default is 3 hours

08:55 <PovAddict> yeah but they have new beta tasks... dunno if those follow settings yet

08:55 <KathrynM> they do

08:55 <KathrynM> rosetta, rosetta beta and minirosetta all do

08:58 <HeXiLeD> PovAddict:  so i guess i have everything ok now .

08:58 <HeXiLeD> thank you for the help :)

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09:02 <KathrynM> *sigh*

09:02 <KathrynM> Poor Henri

09:02 <KathrynM> How can I start the X?

09:02 <PovAddict> no X

09:02 <PovAddict> get over it

09:02 <PovAddict> <.<

09:02 <KathrynM> Not that I'd know how to start X.  But I'm not thinking about setting up a server

09:02 <PovAddict> >.>

09:03 <KathrynM> lol

09:03 <PovAddict> the new VM has no graphical interface, so he just can't

09:03 <KathrynM> I like clusty'

09:03 <KathrynM> errr

09:03 <KathrynM> I like clusty's response

09:04 <clusty> which is that?

09:04 <clusty> :D

09:04 <desti> startx

09:04 <clusty> ohh that

09:04 <clusty> KathrynM, whats so great about my response

09:04 <clusty> tell me how smart I am

09:04 <clusty> :D

09:05 <KathrynM> the part about not needing a gui

09:05 <clusty> i bloody wish I would just die than continue developing win apps

09:06 <KathrynM> lol

09:06 <HeXiLeD> $ startx

09:06 <KathrynM> I wish I could die rather than grade my students' writing

09:06 <PovAddict> HeXiLeD: yeah, except the VM has no X installed at all :)

09:07 <HeXiLeD> humm..

09:07 <clusty> well you can install X

09:07 <HeXiLeD> why is it need? i mean to use what kind of GUI´s ?

09:07 <clusty> nothing prevenmts you

09:07 <HeXiLeD> *guis

09:08 <clusty> dunno

09:08 <PovAddict> it's a virtual machine supposed to run as a *server*, and this guy expects to find X on it...

09:08 <clusty> ppl get scared of vim/nano

09:08 <clusty> bahhh

09:08 <PovAddict> if he needs X to do stuff, he shouldn't be trying to setup a boinc server

09:08 <clusty> the 16core machine I admin here has X :D

09:08 <HeXiLeD> boinc has a cmd line interface

09:08 <clusty> cause my boss wants it good looking

09:08 <clusty> :D

09:08 <KathrynM> well vim is scary

09:08 <HeXiLeD> boinc_cmd

09:08 <KathrynM> he's trying to set up the server

09:09 <clusty> i never used boinc_cmd

09:09 <clusty> just the GUI thing

09:09 <PovAddict> boinc_cmd sucks :)

09:09 * KathrynM is guilty of relying on boinc gui

09:09 <clusty> here is a dud with sense

09:09 <clusty> :D

09:09 <clusty> i could probably figure it out

09:09 <KathrynM> a dud?

09:09 <PovAddict> 1:1 mapping of the internal protocol

09:09 <KathrynM> :p

09:10 <clusty> dud and dudette

09:10 <clusty> :D

09:10 <Romulus> hydrogen -> car -> water out the tail pipr

09:10 <KathrynM> dude and dudette even

09:10 <clusty> dud is shorter :D

09:10 * KathrynM threatens to pull rommie's ram

09:10 <PovAddict> our messages -> Romulus -> random sh*t

09:10 <HeXiLeD> $ boinc_cmd

09:10 <HeXiLeD> Usage:  boinc_cmd [--host hostname] [--passwd passwd] command

09:10 <HeXiLeD> Give --help as a command for a list of commands

09:10 <clusty> damn. i starting to speak like idiot kidz

09:10 <clusty> :D

09:10 <KathrynM> hey no pickin' on lolcats

09:10 <PovAddict> clusty: wats rong wid de wai i rite

09:11 <KathrynM> they give much needed laughs

09:11 <PovAddict> &Katz!

09:11 <Romulus> PovAddict: "Katz!" could be http://icanhascheezburger.com/

09:11 <KathrynM> especially when students' writing reminds me of them

09:11 * KathrynM wonders if I should open the electric bill

09:11 <clusty> PovAddict, mercyyyyy

09:11 <clusty> :D

09:11 <PovAddict> awww cute 1st image on icanhascheezburger

09:12 <clusty> i like the "i baked you a cookie but i eated it" pic

09:12 <clusty> :D

09:12 <clusty> know it?

09:13 <PovAddict> there's loads of those :)

09:13 <PovAddict> I like the ones with the bukkit

09:13 <clusty> http://images.mylot.com/userImages/images/postphotos/1538135.jpg

09:13 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1bjB> (at images.mylot.com)

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09:15 <PovAddict> http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/funny-pictures-cat-surfing-pool.jpg

09:15 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1bjG> (at icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com)

09:15 <KathrynM> I still like my xo pic

09:15 <KathrynM> http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f287/KSMarksPsych/XO_xeyes.jpg

09:15 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1bjH> (at i49.photobucket.com)

09:16 <KathrynM> well, my mod of Eric's pic of his xo

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09:16 <PovAddict> http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/2001982351398543517_rs.jpg <- the pic that started it all

09:17 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1bjJ> (at icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com)

09:17 <clusty> the bad idea puic kicks ass

09:17 <PovAddict> http://icanhascheezburger.com/category/walrus/

09:17 <Romulus> Title: walrus Lolcats n Funny Pictures - I Can Has Cheezburger? (at icanhascheezburger.com)

09:20 <clusty> boket walrus suxorz

09:21 <hawmps> &Katz!

09:21 <Romulus> hawmps: "Katz!" could be http://icanhascheezburger.com/

09:24 <clusty> bad english is just great

09:24 <clusty> lets not forget engrish.com

09:25 <PovAddict> o_O

09:25 <KathrynM> I need to bring home my students' journals and let you read a few of their sentences.

09:25 <KathrynM> you've never seen engrish.com PovAddict?

09:26 <PovAddict> uh nope

09:26 <KathrynM> heh.  always good for a laugh

09:26 <PovAddict> http://engrish.com/detail.php?imagename=insulted-screwdriver.jpg

09:26 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1bjV> (at engrish.com)

09:28 <KathrynM> I once saw a person walkig down the street with a teeshit that said f-you in huge letters

09:28 <wdsmia> asks KathrynM to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

09:28 <KathrynM> teeshirt even :)

09:28 <PovAddict> http://engrish.com/detail.php?imagename=take-the-child.jpg

09:28 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1bj_> (at engrish.com)

09:30 <KathrynM> well, the gp is noisly reminding me she hasn't gotten her orange slices this evening

09:30 <KathrynM> and it's 11:30

09:30 <KathrynM> so I guess it's time for me to say nighty night

09:30 <clusty> http://youtube.com/watch?v=5fkPfEOdlJo

09:30 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Berlitz learn English ad (at youtube.com)

09:30 <clusty> gnite

09:30 <KathrynM> tgiaf (thank god it's almost friday)

09:30 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

09:30 <PovAddict> clusty: it's 11:30 am where she is

09:30 <PovAddict> *am*

09:31 <clusty> i immagine

09:31 <PovAddict> then why gnite :)

09:31 <clusty> oops

09:31 <clusty> :D

09:31 <clusty> hmmm

09:31 <clusty> uhhhh

09:32 <PovAddict> I fscked up my iPod touch yesterday

09:32 <KathrynM> 11:30 pm

09:32 <KathrynM> :p

09:33 <KathrynM> new e@h power app is fast

09:33 * PovAddict has a hourglass mouse cursor floating above his head

09:33 <clusty> damn you povvie, made me look

09:33 <clusty> :D

09:33 <KathrynM> lol

09:33 <PovAddict> oh right

09:33 <clusty> they are 7-8h later than me

09:33 <PovAddict> am here, pm there

09:33 <clusty> pov, you in S america?

09:33 <PovAddict> yes

09:34 <PovAddict> before our retarded-DST-change, I was exactly 12 hrs off KathrynM's timezone

09:34 <KathrynM> he's in his own universe :0

09:34 <clusty> must be like 8AM now

09:34 <clusty> or so

09:34 <KathrynM> 12:30 pm?

09:34 <PovAddict> 12 (noon)

09:34 <KathrynM> ha!

09:34 <KathrynM> ok, I'm really going now

09:35 <clusty> gnite

09:35 <Romulus> took me bloody 1 day to recurse tthrough all files/folders on the couch

09:35 <clusty> pov, i picture you do ray tracing ?

09:37 <PovAddict> yes, and my (somewhat hidden now) boinc project does too :)

09:39 <clusty> are you doing some PHD or company work?

09:39 <clusty> or just fun

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09:40 <PovAddict> just for the hell of it

09:40 <PovAddict> what's a PHD? I'm 17

09:40 <clusty> lool

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09:40 <clusty> :D

09:40 <clusty> admirable... :D

09:41 <PovAddict> yea that's how it goes

09:41 <clusty> kiddo

09:41 <clusty> :D

09:41 <KathrynM> david's tried to recruit him at least once :)

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09:41 <PovAddict> my dad tells me about SETI@Home, and next year I'm settin' up my own project

09:41 <clusty> be gone kath

09:41 <KathrynM> yeah yeah

09:41 <clusty> you will regret tomorrow

09:41 <KathrynM> I'm going

09:42 <clusty> shuuh

09:42 <KathrynM> night (for real)

09:42 <clusty> PovAddict, i was into basketball in highschool

09:42 <clusty> ..and fishing :d

09:52 <HeXiLeD> seti is still working ?

09:53 <PovAddict> seems to be

09:56 <PovAddict> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3FZtmlHwcA

09:56 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Windmill/turbine going wild and finally break (at www.youtube.com)

10:03 <clusty> funky

10:03 <clusty> in bremen its loaded with them

10:04 <hawmps> danger danger..

10:04 <clusty> :D

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10:48 <eidolon> hey folks, is the SET BOINC server toast?  I've been getting this for the last 1.5 days or so:

10:49 <eidolon> 2008-02-28 10:47:52 [SETI@home] Scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi failed: system fopen

10:49 <eidolon> 2008-02-28 10:47:52 [SETI@home] Deferring scheduler requests for 1 minutes and 0 seconds

10:51 <PovAddict> that looks to me like a problem on YOUR end :)

10:52 <eidolon> eh?  how?  :)

10:52 <eidolon> oh. hm.  the fopen () is failing locally?

10:53 <PovAddict> how did you install BOINC? official binaries or distro package?

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11:04 <PovAddict> eidolon?

11:04 <eidolon> sorry

11:04 * eidolon is in an involved discussion elsewhere.

11:04 <eidolon> official binaries / distro on debian etch

11:05 <PovAddict> I mean did you apt-get install boinc, or download it from boinc.berkeley.edu website?

11:05 <PovAddict> (or built from source? :D)

11:05 <eidolon> aptitude install boinc

11:05 <eidolon> this may just be a permission error.

11:06 <PovAddict> then I guess your data is in /var/lib/boinc?

11:06 <eidolon> http://pastebin.stonekeep.com/1618

11:06 <Romulus> Title: pastebin private pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.stonekeep.com)

11:06 <eidolon> yeah, check the mixed permissions.

11:06 <eidolon> they should all be boinc:boinc i think

11:07 <PovAddict> ...ugh

11:07 <eidolon> yeah, looking t my local ubuntu install, most files are boinc:boinc.

11:08 <PovAddict> how did you start boinc?

11:08 <PovAddict> or does it auto-start?

11:08 <eidolon> /etc/init.d/boinc_client restart

11:08 <PovAddict> well I think boinc_client should change to the right user...

11:09 <PovAddict> hmm

11:09 <PovAddict> wonder why you ever ran as boinc

11:09 <eidolon> lemme fiddle permissions a bit.  i definately manually start4d it under root by hand a few times on the first machine

11:10 <PovAddict> just chown boinc:boinc on everything

11:10 <eidolon> ehh

11:10 <eidolon> there's some stuff that isn't

11:11 <eidolon> i'm being cautious

11:19 <eidolon> 2008-02-28 11:18:39 [SETI@home] Starting task 12ja07ad.26276.229904.14.7.230_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 513

11:19 <eidolon> tadaaa.

11:19 <hawmps> http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/224

11:19 <Romulus> Title: TED | Talks | Roy Gould: WorldWide Telescope (video) (at www.ted.com)

11:26 <hawmps> http://worldwidetelescope.org/

11:27 <Romulus> Title: WWTelescope (at worldwidetelescope.org)

11:30 <eidolon> so i went trolling for some new users for my boinc team.  i got someone who has this massive sun cluster.  my stats are... looking good :)

11:30 <eidolon> http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_team_graph.php?pr=bo&id=34346

11:30 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1aDp> (at boincstats.com)

11:30 <PovAddict> sounds fun :)

11:31 <PovAddict> you would do good in getting more people who currently aren't running BOINC at all

11:31 <eidolon> oh, not sun's.

11:31 <eidolon> AMD Opteron clusters.

11:31 <eidolon> 34 of them apparently.

11:31 <PovAddict> since that would be more users for BOINC in general too

11:32 <PovAddict> 34? wow

11:32 <eidolon> true.  but i like my stats jumping :)

11:32 <PovAddict> wow that's a jump :)

11:33 <eidolon> quite 8)

11:34 <Romulus> Yeah, but I missed you before.

11:45 * Tank_Master slaps Romulus around a bit with a large trout

11:47 <Tank_Master> wow - that WWT site has nice n clear vids

11:49 <Tank_Master> looks interesting

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12:13 <zombie67> POV, you there?

12:13 <PovAddict> yes

12:14 <zombie67> I think it would be a good idea to have send_result_abort enabled by default.  Too many projects don't know about it, and end up wasting crunching resources without realizing.

12:15 <zombie67> Any way to make this change?

12:15 <PovAddict> suggest it on boinc_projects

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12:16 <zombie67> projects?

12:16 <zombie67> why not dev?

12:16 <PovAddict> whatever

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12:18 <zombie67> done

12:20 <Lorvija> Hey, anyone know of a good illustrator?

12:20 <PovAddict> illustrator?

12:21 <Lorvija> well need one banner for one website im designing..

12:21 <PovAddict> vector graphics? try inkscape

12:21 <Lorvija> hmm whats that

12:21 <Lorvija> ?

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12:21 <PovAddict> &google inkscape

12:21 <Romulus> PovAddict: Search took 0.22 seconds: Inkscape . Draw Freely.: <http://www.inkscape.org/>; Inkscape - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inkscape>; Inkscape - Reviews and free Inkscape downloads at Download.com: <http://download.com/Inkscape/3640-2192_4-10527269.html>; SourceForge.net: Inkscape: <http://sourceforge.net/projects/inkscape/>; PC World - PC World Downloads - (2 more messages)

12:21 <Lorvija> i mean i need the person to do it (:

12:22 <PovAddict> oh

12:22 <Lorvija> don't have the talent to do that

12:23 <Lorvija> You happen to know anyone or any channel or how to find..

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12:42 <eidolon> Lorvija: ther'es a couple automated banner-makers out there.

12:42 <eidolon> i whipped up one for my Eve corp in gimp.

12:43 <Lorvija> eidolon well i need a lot more than automated (:

12:43 <eidolon> mmkay.

12:43 <PovAddict> how much are you willing to pay?

12:44 <eidolon> "10 Opteron quad cores for 1 month."

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14:03 <hawmps> &weather 12020

14:03 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 20.7F / -6.3C | Humidity: 55% | Pressure: 30.07in / 1018.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Today - Partly sunny. Highs around 19. Northwest winds around 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 4 below. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph in the evening...becoming light and variable.; Friday - Partly (1 more message)

14:03 <hawmps> &more

14:03 <Romulus> hawmps: sunny in the morning...then mostly cloudy with a chance of snow in the afternoon. Cold with highs in the mid 20s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 50 percent.;

14:04 <hawmps> ouchies.

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14:47 <wdsmia_w> &weather 50319

14:47 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 27F / -3C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Snow | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h ; Rest of Today - Light snow late in the morning...then snow likely late in the afternoon. New snow accumulation around 1 inch. High in the lower 30s. South wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 90 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy until early morning then (1 more message)

14:47 <wdsmia_w> &more

14:47 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: becoming partly cloudy. A 40 percent chance of rain and snow in the evening. Low in the mid 20s. South wind 10 to 15 mph shifting to the west after midnight.; Friday - Mostly sunny. High in the lower 30s. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph.;

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15:19 <mweltin> hey HEY

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15:37 <mweltin> hello PovAddict

15:38 <PovAddict> never buy d-link

15:38 <mweltin> ok

15:38 <PovAddict> sheesh

15:38 <mweltin> sysco then?

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16:04 * xcamel_away is back.

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16:04 <FreeLarry58> lol PovAddict tried d-link many years ago and wasn't satisfied with setup - to difficult

16:04 <xcamel> re-hi

16:04 <FreeLarry58> been using linksys currently

16:04 <FreeLarry58> howdy xcamel mweltin PovAddict

16:05 <PovAddict> I don't find the setup difficuly

16:05 <mweltin> hey hey freeMan

16:05 <PovAddict> but I don't see it working correctly either

16:05 <PovAddict> hope it works fine with the firmware upgrade

16:05 <FreeLarry58> then setup not complete PovAddict

16:05 <FreeLarry58> yeah that did help after two

16:05 <PovAddict> and speaking about firmwares, going to do a second attempt at downgrading my iPod firmware...

16:06 <FreeLarry58> good luck

16:06 <PovAddict> previous attempt yesterday got it bricked

16:06 <FreeLarry58> sounds like some of the new didn't leave

16:07 <PovAddict> iTunes gave an error

16:07 <PovAddict> and iPod stuck showing apple logo on screen

16:07 <PovAddict> tried a dozen times more, kept getting the error

16:07 <PovAddict> worked on my dad's mac

16:08 <FreeLarry58> maybe not the pod but settings itunes expecting that are logged on dl machine

16:08 <PovAddict> so I got it restored, but lost the extra apps (that I didn't even know were optional and "available for only $20")

16:09 <FreeLarry58> yeah aint that the way of it

16:09 <PovAddict> I won't pay $20 for apps I had working just fine yesterday

16:09 * PovAddict crosses fingers

16:10 <FreeLarry58> lol if you want them and you didn't save the previous setup file then you will

16:10 <mweltin> good luck

16:10 <PovAddict> FreeLarry58: the iPod already had the apps by the time it reached my hands, so I didn't even know they were purchased separately

16:10 <FreeLarry58> had to shut down the lappy as the wife wants to take it to seattle - got a 119 credits from it last night

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16:28 <mweltin> great rommie's back

16:28 <mweltin> so peacful without him

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16:43 <FreeLarry58> &bighello for Romulus recovery and for PieSpyRom to get fed

16:43 <Romulus> Hello Aeternus, benje, bryanUC, Celelaptop, Celelibi__, clusty, CoderForLife, codewarrior__, d00m1001, deprecated, desti, ELGono, FreeLarry58, hawmps, HeXiLeD, KathrynM, Lorvija, MacG, mweltin, PieSpyRom, PovAddict, PriitM, redeeman, Romulus, siofwolves, Soul_keeper, Tank_Master, TheFons, wdsmia, wdsmia_w, wraund, and xcamel

16:44 <FreeLarry58> &whatis piespy

16:44 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: "piespy" could be http://lledgerock.com/boinc_logs/boinc-current.png

16:44 <xcamel> found a monster logfile hidden in there I had to compress..

16:44 <FreeLarry58> ohh

16:45 <xcamel> ate up the whole dir..

16:45 <xcamel> and then some..

16:45 <FreeLarry58> well big hello didn't work so guess i'll try this Hello Aeternus, benje, bryanUC, Celelaptop, Celelibi__, clusty, CoderForLife, codewarrior__, d00m1001, deprecated, desti, ELGono, FreeLarry58, hawmps, HeXiLeD, KathrynM, Lorvija, MacG, mweltin, PieSpyRom, PovAddict, PriitM, redeeman, Romulus, siofwolves, Soul_keeper, Tank_Master, TheFons, wdsmia, wdsmia_w, wraund, and xcamel

16:45 <redeeman> :P

16:45 <xcamel> messages.log was 5.3GB

16:45 <FreeLarry58> ouch

16:45 <xcamel> fixed now..

16:45 * FreeLarry58 wonders if he should check his old log files

16:47 <FreeLarry58> just got email on order status and if not here by monday will call credit card company to block payment on it

16:47 <FreeLarry58> just now saying they are ready to ship after a week from order

16:47 <FreeLarry58> when previous email said 1 to 2 days

16:47 <FreeLarry58> took 7 days?

16:48 <Romulus> groan 6" of snow evenin

16:48 <FreeLarry58> wont be ordering from them any time soon

16:49 <FreeLarry58> will also send nasty email to them detailing why i will refuse order if it arrives past monday next

16:57 <xcamel> give 'um hell.

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17:05 <xcamel> zom-bony!

17:07 <zombie67> hi xcamel

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18:16 <wdsmia> re-hi

18:16 <xcamel> 'lo Doug

18:17 <xcamel> thanks for the frigid weather...

18:17 <wdsmia> your welcome

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18:17 <xcamel> we'll set a new record low for 'leap day' tomorrow..

18:18 <wdsmia> &weather 50319

18:18 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 31.5F / -0.3C | Humidity: 90% | Pressure: 29.88in / 1011.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Late This Afternoon - Snow likely. Little or no new snow accumulation. South wind around 15 mph. Chance of snow 70 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A 50 percent chance of snow in the evening. Low in the mid 20s. South wind 10 to 15 mph (1 more message)

18:18 <wdsmia> &more

18:18 <Romulus> wdsmia: shifting to the west after midnight.; Friday - Partly sunny. Scattered flurries. High in the lower 30s. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph.;

18:19 <wdsmia> looks like its going to be nice here

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18:34 <mweltin> hey KathrynM

18:36 <KathrynM> mornin'

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18:43 <PovAddict> I can't believe I just connected to my iPod via ssh

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18:44 <KathrynM> you are too geeky for words

18:45 <mweltin> yes he is

18:45 <xcamel> lol - true

18:46 <PovAddict> ok I copied the 'hello world' program I had compiled, then tried to run it, but I keep getting "permission denied"

18:46 <PovAddict> rwxr-xr-x

18:46 <mweltin> HAHAAH  DRM maybe?

18:46 <KathrynM> lol

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19:06 <mweltin> so pov what does it run some linux version?

19:06 <mweltin> the iPod I mean

19:06 <PovAddict> it runs OS X

19:07 <mweltin> so how do you connect to it?  I'm curious because I'm getting one as a wedding present soon.

19:07 <mweltin> and I don't like them much, or at least I tunes

19:08 <PovAddict> you need a little mess to jailbreak it first

19:08 <PovAddict> then you end up with an installer to get 3rd party apps

19:08 <PovAddict> so you choose OpenSSH from there :)

19:08 <mweltin> waht do you mean jailbreak ?

19:08 <mweltin> hardware hack

19:09 <PovAddict> no hardware touching

19:09 <PovAddict> you need to downgrade the firmware first

19:09 <PovAddict> anyway, currently I'm trying to run stuff on it

19:09 <mweltin> do you need a mac do to it with

19:09 <PovAddict> I copied a compiled binary but when I run it on ssh I get "permission denied"

19:10 <PovAddict> mweltin: no, works on Windows; but may be tricky on Linux due to lack of iTunes

19:11 <mweltin> Liz is getting a new mac

19:15 <nickuwo> Pov, do you think you'll have any free time tonite? I'm still having troubles with the wrapper example :(

19:16 <mweltin> nickuwo, I'm trying to get the wrapper working as well

19:16 <mweltin> what trouble are you having?

19:16 <nickuwo> hehe

19:16 <CoderForLife> hey

19:17 * KathrynM drags my tired arse off to the screaming factory of small humanoids

19:17 <nickuwo> My work units are causing me headaches... I don't really understand how they work

19:17 <KathrynM> laters all

19:17 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

19:17 <PovAddict> nice way to put it KathrynM :)

19:17 <PovAddict> bye

19:17 <nickuwo> my client is looking for work units that aren't there

19:17 <mweltin> later KathrynM

19:18 <nickuwo> are you having similar problems?

19:18 <mweltin> I just started looking into it last night

19:19 <nickuwo> i c

19:19 <mweltin> haven't tied it yet, but would like to kno what to avoid

19:19 <nickuwo> what are your ultimate goals with BOINC?

19:20 <mweltin> solve large scale STSP's

19:20 <nickuwo> stsp's?

19:20 <xcamel> hmmm.. down to 8F

19:20 <Romulus> i have noticed a problem

19:21 <mweltin> symetric travelings salesman problems

19:21 <nickuwo> cool

19:21 <nickuwo> writing a paper?

19:21 <mweltin> you?

19:21 <Romulus> hmm... you are upper fayl, mweltin

19:21 <nickuwo> Trying to find new lower bounds on ramsey problems

19:22 <mweltin> I'll have to look that one up.

19:22 <nickuwo> hopefully a 4-color graph...

19:22 <mweltin> oooo a graph problem, I like it already

19:22 <nickuwo> :)

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19:23 <CoderForLife> balmy at 31F xcamel

19:23 <mweltin> so is it a graph color problem or what?

19:23 <nickuwo> yea

19:24 <nickuwo> trying to find smallest number of vertexes s.th. all graphs contain subgraphs of a certain color

19:25 <xcamel> I think it'll have to warm up to snow...

19:26 <nickuwo> Pov? no free time?

19:26 <CoderForLife> it could snow carbon dioxide if it's cold enough

19:28 <CoderForLife> I "have to volunteer" some time tomorrow to go to Music Hall and review the disaster recovery plan of the symphony orchestra

19:29 <mweltin> ok I'm not coming up with a simple description of the ramsey, I get the color problem e.g. color verticies so no edge touches the same color at both ends.

19:29 <nickuwo> wikipedia?

19:29 <mweltin> so what is the ramsey deal?

19:29 <CoderForLife> my first question will probably be why the data center is located directly below the lobby fountain

19:30 <nickuwo> you know the party problem?

19:30 <mweltin> party problme, or parity, either way no.

19:31 <nickuwo> so the question you are asking in ramsey theory is...

19:31 <CoderForLife> ok - laterz

19:31 <mweltin> cya cfl

19:31 <nickuwo> How big do certain systems have to get in order to it be neccessary that all the elements share some property

19:33 <nickuwo> dealing with graphs, it becomes how many vetecies must you have to be positive that you have some x-vertex subgraph of a cetain color

19:34 <nickuwo> Smallest example is a triangle subgraph, and it turns out that if you have a 2-colored graph with 6 vertecies, you have to have a triangle of 1 color in the graph

19:34 <nickuwo> square is 18 verticies

19:34 <nickuwo> verticies?

19:34 <nickuwo> sp?

19:35 <nickuwo> anyway, 5 vertex subgraph is somewhere btw 43 - 49

19:35 <nickuwo> i think

19:35 <mweltin> nice

19:35 <mweltin> good luck with that

19:35 <nickuwo> and you can do it for more than 2 colors as well

19:35 <nickuwo> thanks

19:35 <mweltin> so why the wrapper

19:36 <nickuwo> cause I only have a few months, and I don't know c or c++

19:36 <nickuwo> or the BOINC API

19:36 <mweltin> better get started then

19:36 <mweltin> took me two months to get my first app running well.

19:36 <nickuwo> well I have the program already, just need to plug it in...

19:37 <nickuwo> 2 months?

19:38 <mweltin> I'm not a qucik learner

19:38 <mweltin> and I wrote my app from scratch

19:38 <mweltin> along with validators and such

19:38 <nickuwo> that awesome

19:38 <nickuwo> I couldn't do that

19:39 <nickuwo> the boinc api reads like... well something terrible

19:39 <nickuwo> did you have someone help you?

19:40 <mweltin> PovAddict, and the project mailing list

19:40 <nickuwo> cool

19:40 <nickuwo> PovAddict seems to be sick of me... what is the mailing list?

19:40 <mweltin> hahahaha

19:41 <mweltin> he is a popular guy here

19:41 <nickuwo> heh

19:41 <mweltin> boinc_projects@ssl.berkeley.edu

19:41 <mweltin> you can sign up for the list at the boinc website.

19:41 <nickuwo> awesome

19:42 <mweltin> you on linux ?

19:43 <mweltin> makes life easier than trying it on windows

19:43 <nickuwo> yea, I'm trying to get it to work on one of those pre-built VWs

19:43 <nickuwo> or VMs

19:44 <mweltin> I'm not good with abstraction layers, the best luck I have had was working on linux or some *nix

19:46 <mweltin> snak time bbiab

19:46 <nickuwo> I'm developing the client for windows tho, I got permission to run it at night on my university's computers, and I only have one box, so it's nice to run the server and client on one machine

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20:04 <mweltin> so where are you getting stuck nickuwo?

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20:11 <xcamel> cool:

20:11 <xcamel> http://www.terradaily.com/reports/Supercomputer_Unleashes_Virtual_9_0_Megaquake_In_Pacific_Northwest_999.html

20:11 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1bv3> (at www.terradaily.com)

20:15 <mweltin> that was cool

20:18 <PovAddict> back

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20:26 <xcamel> >> IP Kill >> 82.135.148.179

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20:35 <nickuwo> if cinnamon toast crunch could bowl, it would never score less than 278

20:36 <xcamel> huh?

20:37 <nickuwo> it rocks

20:37 <mweltin> bbl have to go work on a compressor

20:37 <mweltin> later

20:37 <mweltin> good luck nickuwo

20:38 <nickuwo> thanks man, u 2

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23:27 <nickuwo> hey mweltin

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23:34 <mweltin_> I hate my isp

23:34 <mweltin_> so anyway

23:34 <zombie67> yo

23:34 <nickuwo> whats goin on

23:35 <zombie67> mweltin, do you have a choice?

23:35 <zombie67> and even if you do, they would share the same pipe anyway, right?

23:35 <mweltin_> i hate my isp

23:35 <mweltin_> no

23:35 <mweltin_> yes

23:35 <mweltin_> same pipe

23:35 <mweltin_> regardless

23:36 <mweltin_> I missed anything you said nickuwo

23:36 <mweltin_> how do I "wrap" my application

23:36 <nickuwo> ?

23:36 <zombie67> ask pov or yoyo

23:36 <mweltin_> my impression from the wrapper page is that I build the wrapper as a what goes in my apps dir

23:36 <mweltin_> ok

23:37 <nickuwo> do you know anything about how work units work mweltin?>

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23:37 <zombie67> yo runs two projects on his site, both inside wrappers

23:37 <zombie67> yoyo

23:37 <mweltin_> yes

23:37 <nickuwo> perhaps you can help

23:37 <nickuwo> me

23:37 <mweltin_> clusty does as wel

23:37 <mweltin_> well*

23:38 <mweltin_> I can try

23:38 <nickuwo> ok

23:38 <mweltin_> what do you need help with

23:38 <nickuwo> Ithink set everything up correctly but...

23:38 <mweltin_> but...?

23:39 <nickuwo> when I connect with a client, it gives me - [error] State file error: missing file wu1293741967_16_8_0

23:39 <zombie67> FYI, yoyo is here frequently too, but he is in Germany, so account for the time shift

23:39 <nickuwo> and

23:39 <mweltin_> 12 hrs for me

23:39 <mweltin_> you can also find him on aim now and again

23:39 <nickuwo> [error] Can't handle task wu_1203741967_16_8 in scheduler reply

23:40 <nickuwo> ?

23:40 <nickuwo> you know what that means?

23:40 <mweltin_> no

23:40 <nickuwo> mm :)

23:40 <mweltin_> but I'm sure we can figure it out

23:40 <Romulus> http://www.solopianomusic.com/brown.html <- everything here is a triangle of 1 color in the future."

23:41 <mweltin_> have other work units worked?

23:41 <nickuwo> no

23:41 <mweltin_> where did you pull that err0r message from some log?

23:42 <nickuwo> I turned on the HTTP error messages in my client

23:43 <mweltin_> you ran bin/status ?

23:43 <mweltin_> is everything running ok

23:43 <nickuwo> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/ClientMessages - http debug

23:43 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/SlO> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

23:43 <zombie67> mweltin, you're here twice

23:43 <nickuwo> yes...

23:43 <nickuwo> everyhting is running, and locked

23:44 <mweltin_> yeah don't konw how ot get rid of "me"

23:44 <mweltin_> good

23:44 <mweltin_> so that message comes from the boinc client then

23:44 <nickuwo> yes

23:44 <mweltin_> so that is a good start

23:45 <mweltin_> at least the client is downloading something

23:45 <nickuwo> well... where does the server log stuff?

23:45 <mweltin_> have to check the "slot" dir for

23:45 <mweltin_> $proj_root/HOSTNAME_log

23:45 <mweltin_> sorry log_HOSTNAME

23:46 <nickuwo> ok

23:46 <nickuwo> nuthin in there

23:46 <mweltin_> ok

23:46 <mweltin_> post your job.xml to pastebin.com

23:47 <nickuwo> I think it's some issue with my make_work calls and naming choices

23:47 <nickuwo> ok

23:47 <nickuwo> 1 sec

23:47 <zombie67> mweltin!  You are so cool.  Giving back as you got.

23:48 <nickuwo> the one in apps?

23:48 <mweltin_> I helped clusty debug a python thing  a few days ago

23:48 <mweltin_> least I could do after all the help I got

23:48 <nickuwo> or downloads

23:48 <mweltin_> do your names collide?

23:48 <mweltin_> right now I think its the downloads but I have nothing to base that on.

23:49 <zombie67> did you see?  DA actually went along with one of my suggestions.

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23:50 <mweltin_> about what?

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23:50 <nickuwo> I'm using the job.xml on http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/WrapperApp

23:50 <Romulus> Title: WrapperApp - BOINC - Trac (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

23:50 <mweltin> I think you need to customize that (not sure)

23:50 <nickuwo> ok

23:50 <zombie67> turning on "server-side abortion" by defautl

23:50 <nickuwo> hmm

23:51 <mweltin> DA finally added Pov's opaque patch to make work on my request.

23:51 <mweltin> good call

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23:51 <mweltin> so nickuwo you just cut and pasted the job.xml as is?

23:51 <nickuwo> yea

23:52 <zombie67> too many projects, esp new ones, have no idea that they are wasting resources without it, when initial replication > quorum.

23:52 <nickuwo> it basically describes how to get the example up annd running on that page... doesn't say anything about custimizing it

23:52 <mweltin> ok so you and I have the same question

23:53 <mweltin> nickuwo, its geared to be more generic

23:53 <nickuwo> dammit

23:53 <mweltin> let me look at the source, what I don't get is how the wrapper gets wrapped around the legacy app.

23:53 <nickuwo> right... I assumed it would explain how to get the "worker" program to work with the wrapper

23:53 <mweltin> do you compile them both together.

23:54 <Romulus> or Work or whatever it was a virus

23:54 <nickuwo> no

23:54 <nickuwo> the wrapper just executes "worker" with some command line parameters, optionally passed by the server

23:55 <nickuwo> in perhaps an input and/or output file

23:55 <nickuwo> and perhpas

23:55 <mweltin> so your app the you are wrapping around is called "worker"?

23:56 <mweltin> for example I whatn to run an app called acotsp

23:56 <nickuwo> yea, it's the demo program that comes with the wrapper program

23:56 <mweltin> ok

23:56 <mweltin> cool

23:56 <mweltin> and what did you put in you project/apps dir?

23:57 <nickuwo> just what that website told me to... both the worker prog and wrapper prog, and that job.xml

23:57 <nickuwo> I basically followed those directions to a t

23:58 <mweltin> hahaah

23:58 <mweltin> you ran update/versions ?

23:58 <nickuwo> except I added a make_work daemon to constantly make work units

23:58 <nickuwo> no

23:58 <nickuwo> :)

23:58 <nickuwo> thats the only thing i didn't do, i think

23:59 <mweltin> what seems odd is that your client wouldn't download anything until you ran that.

23:59 <nickuwo> ran make_work?

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