IRC logs of #boinc for Tuesday, 2008-03-04

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00:49 <Wabbit98> yo

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02:27 <Tank_Master> yoyoyo

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02:32 <yoyo[RKN]> yo

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02:57 <efc> moo

02:58 <Tank_Master> hey

03:03 <efc> Do hard drives still have that spin-down feature?

03:04 <efc> With modern windows and boinc, its been years since I've noticed it

03:05 <Tank_Master> yes

03:06 <Tank_Master> but with how active BOINC and windows are, they dont get a chance to spin down

03:06 <efc> If I added a disk just for media.. it might actually spin down

03:06 <Tank_Master> yes

03:06 <Tank_Master> if you tell windows to allow it

03:08 <efc> I remember I used to play games, and when I quit the disk would actually have to spin up again. Back in the good old days.

03:09 <Tank_Master> hehe

03:11 <efc> brb

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03:29 <efc> New drive in..

03:29 <efc> hmm, windows doesn't see it

03:39 <efc> now it does

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04:32 <CoderForLife> brb  breakfast, and inspect the house for water from the rain

04:33 <Tank_Master> leaky roof?

04:46 <CoderForLife> leaky sky

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05:13 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

05:13 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 38.1F / 3.4C | Humidity: 90% | Pressure: 29.78in / 1008.4hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Rain | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Rain. Rain may be heavy at times. Near steady temperatures around 40. Northeast winds 15 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy. Rain with a chance of freezing rain in the evening...then a chance of snow after (1 more message)

05:14 <CoderForLife> &more

05:14 <Romulus> CoderForLife: midnight. Little or no snow accumulation. Lows in the upper 20s. West winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 100 percent.; Wednesday - Mostly cloudy in the morning...then becoming mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 40s. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Areal Flood Watch for Hamilton County in effect until 12:00 AM EST on March 05, 2008;

05:20 <CoderForLife> off to w@#%

05:22 <vlazar_> hey guyz btw

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06:54 <fishsponge> my boinc client keeps crashing with "/home/boinc/BOINC/boinc: symbol lookup error: /home/boinc/BOINC/boinc: undefined symbol: gzopen64" any ideas?

06:55 <fishsponge> i'm running "boinc_ubuntu_5.10.28_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh"

06:55 <KathrynM> what distro fishsponge?

06:56 <fishsponge> openSUSE 10.1 32-bit... could be the clue

06:56 <fishsponge> i'm not running Ubuntu, admittedly, but the older version with the GUI worked fine

06:56 <KathrynM> you'll have to use the older version unless you want to torture yourself and compile it yourself.

06:56 <KathrynM> the "ubuntu" version was compiled on Gutsy I think

06:57 <KathrynM> It may or may not run on other distros

06:57 <fishsponge> well all i want is the latest bug-fix release of the BOINC client *with* a GUI...

06:57 <fishsponge> is this the wrong one?

06:57 <KathrynM> well..........

06:57 <KathrynM> yes and no

06:57 <fishsponge> which version should i download?

06:57 <KathrynM> 5.10.21

06:57 <KathrynM> I'm using that one atm (I have an rpm if you're interested)

06:58 <KathrynM> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

06:58 <Romulus> Title: Download BOINC client software (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

06:58 <KathrynM> if it's not there, then

06:58 <fishsponge> an RPM for which exact distro?

06:58 <KathrynM> the rpm should work on suse

06:59 <KathrynM> It's the 5.10.21 from Berkeley just packaged up in an rpm

06:59 <KathrynM> http://pirates.spy-hill.net/help/linux-rpm.html

06:59 <Romulus> Title: RPM Installation of BOINC client software (at pirates.spy-hill.net)

07:00 <KathrynM> I should say, before using the rpm, you should run down the work you have right now.  It'll make life so much easier :)

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07:20 <clusty> fishsponge, compiling is easy

07:20 <clusty> dont let kath scare you

07:21 <fishsponge> it's ok - i plan to compile now anyway... thanks for the advice, people...

07:22 <clusty> :D

08:26 <KathrynM> me scare people?

08:27 <KathrynM> never

08:27 <KathrynM> ugh

08:27 <KathrynM> just finished installing xp for some friends

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08:43 <KathrynM> yo PovAddict, we need you to run your trac spam script :)

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10:10 <BadBarbarian> morin

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10:45 <wdsmia_w> &weather 50319

10:45 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 21.7F / -5.7C | Humidity: 60% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 4.0mph / 6.4km/h ; Today - Sunny in the morning then becoming partly sunny. High in the upper 20s. East wind around 5 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy early in the evening then becoming mostly cloudy. Not as cold. Low in the lower 20s. Southeast wind 5 to (1 more message)

10:45 <wdsmia_w> &more

10:45 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: 10 mph.; Wednesday - Cloudy. Snow likely in the morning...then a chance of snow in the afternoon. Snow accumulation around 2 inches. High in the upper 20s. East wind near 10 mph increasing to northwest 15 to 20 mph in the afternoon. Chance of snow 60 percent.;

10:46 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

10:46 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 41.5F / 5.3C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 30.31in / 1026.3hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of showers in the morning. Highs around 50. West wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Patchy fog through the night. Lows in the upper 20s to mid 30s. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Wednesday - (1 more message)

10:46 <Tank_Master> &more

10:46 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Mostly sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. Highs around 55. East wind 5 to 15 mph.;

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13:04 <FreeLarry58> motn all

13:04 <FreeLarry58> morn

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13:51 <PovAddict> &ping

13:51 <Romulus> pong

13:54 <yoyo[RKN]> pong PovAddict

13:56 <yoyo[RKN]> can I send a *.exe file as part of the WU, think yes?

13:56 <PovAddict> you can but that doesn't look like a very good idea

13:57 <yoyo[RKN]> contains files and subdirectories as selfextracting archive

13:58 <PovAddict> so each time you change the contents of the archive, you release a new exe?

13:58 <PovAddict> you should add an archive to the workunit, and have your app (outside the WU) extract it

13:59 <PovAddict> (btw, note many self-extracting archives briefly pop up a window with a progress bar; you don't want that to happen)

13:59 <yoyo[RKN]> is there a zip lib for boinc available?

13:59 <PovAddict> there is indeed... boinc_zip

13:59 <PovAddict> but maybe you could just bundle unzip.exe :)

13:59 <yoyo[RKN]> (btw my archive will not pop up anything)

14:28 <PovAddict> if I sum my pending credits and my current credits on POEM@Home...

14:28 <PovAddict> err I mean proteins@home

14:28 <PovAddict> I reached 10k already :)

14:29 <Tank_Master> congrats

14:29 <yoyo[RKN]> PovAddict : can I use the same logical name in wu as in application

14:31 <yoyo[RKN]> in application, physical name=files.1.0.zip, logical=files.zip

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14:31 <kutio> hello world

14:31 <PovAddict> files.zip shouldn't be on the app

14:31 <PovAddict> it's an input file...

14:32 <kutio> where can I find a research on the real results of the grid computing phenomenon ?

14:32 <PovAddict> kutio: how about academic papers?

14:32 <yoyo[RKN]> but it is the same for a couple of wus

14:32 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: so? will you release a new app for each time the file changes? :)

14:32 <kutio> PovAddict, do you have some links ?

14:32 <yoyo[RKN]> no

14:33 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: put it on the app, and use <sticky/> so the client doesn't delete it

14:33 <PovAddict> kutio: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/ProjectPapers

14:33 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1d-V> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

14:33 <yoyo[RKN]> and <no_delete/> ?

14:33 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: yeah, no_delete for the *server* not to delete it

14:33 <yoyo[RKN]> ;)

14:34 <Romulus> this is for new graphics for others

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15:15 <sethy> hey

15:34 <kutio> what's the LHC project ?

15:34 <PovAddict> http://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/

15:34 <Romulus> Title: LHC@home (at lhcathome.cern.ch)

15:34 <PovAddict> ah click "About LHC@home" for project info

15:35 <Tank_Master> Cern Particle Accelerator

15:37 <sethy> CERN*

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17:15 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:17 <Tank_Master> hey

17:18 <wdsmia> its nice to get home a 1/2 hour earlyer

17:19 <Tank_Master> lol

17:19 <Tank_Master> yeah

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17:55 <PovAddict> &ping

17:55 <Romulus> pong

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18:05 <CoderOnTheCouch> Greetings

18:07 <CoderOnTheCouch> how does one go about getting an *un*truncated list of all channels/rooms on freenode.net?

18:09 <PovAddict> typing /list not enough?

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18:09 <CoderOnTheCouch> Miranduh stops at about 25% through

18:09 <PovAddict> what do you mean untruncated?

18:10 <CoderOnTheCouch> let me try this /list

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18:11 <PovAddict> *sigh*

18:11 <PovAddict> what do you mean untruncated?

18:11 <CoderOnTheCouch> same window pops up - "Done: 4663 channels (probably truncated by server"

18:11 <CoderOnTheCouch> it got to 24% before stopping

18:11 <PovAddict> afaik, freenode only returns servers with more than three or four users

18:11 <CoderOnTheCouch> untrucated means the opposite of "truncated by server"

18:11 <PovAddict> err

18:11 <PovAddict> s/servers/channels/

18:12 * CoderOnTheCouch sorts by number

18:12 <CoderOnTheCouch> none lower than 4 in this list

18:13 <CoderOnTheCouch> maybe I was expecting too much

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18:14 <PovAddic1> &seen CoderOnTheCouch

18:14 <Romulus> PovAddic1: CoderOnTheCouch was last seen in #boinc 1 minute and 2 seconds ago: <CoderOnTheCouch> maybe I was expecting too much

18:15 <PovAddic1> last I got was * CoderOnTheCouch sorts by number

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18:15 <CoderOnTheCouch> [18:12] CoderOnTheCouch: none lower than 4 in this list

18:15 <CoderOnTheCouch>   [18:13] CoderOnTheCouch: maybe I was expecting too much

18:15 <PovAddic1> what channel(s) are you lookin' for?

18:16 <CoderOnTheCouch> thanks for the hint - um, just looking what other things of interest might be lurking out there

18:16 <CoderOnTheCouch> I am thinking about downloading VC++ Express 2008

18:16 <PovAddic1> fair enough

18:16 <PovAddic1> last time I tried VC++ Express 2005... I uninstalled it within an hour of using

18:17 <CoderOnTheCouch> I had pretty good success with it

18:17 <PovAddic1> I'm happy enough using bash+gcc+vim

18:17 <PovAddic1> ...on Windows

18:17 <CoderOnTheCouch> I have a new need coming up where I want to recompile and enhance some C code from 1998/1999 that I wrote

18:18 <CoderOnTheCouch> the major trouble is that it was written for Borland C++

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18:19 <CoderOnTheCouch> is there any kind of newish free Borland C++ compiler?

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18:19 <CoderOnTheCouch> hold still so I can talk to you, dagnabbit =)

18:19 <PovAddict> I think I'll get off IRC for a while...

18:20 <CoderOnTheCouch> CoderOnTheCouch: is there any kind of newish free Borland C++ compiler?

18:20 <PovAddict> usually it disconnects often

18:20 <PovAddict> this time I'm running bittorrent too

18:20 <PovAddict> and guess what: it doesn't make it any better

18:21 <CoderOnTheCouch> lol

18:21 <CoderOnTheCouch> reckon not

18:21 <CoderOnTheCouch> anyway - thanks for the help

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18:22 <PovAddic1> I give up - bye

18:22 <PovAddic1> xcamel_away: see if you can make your online logs update more often...

18:24 <CoderOnTheCouch> bye PovAddic1

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18:38 <CoderOnTheCouch> I'm outta here

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18:39 <CoderOnTheCouch> cya in the AM

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19:08 <sethy> morning all from the great britain land

19:11 <KathrynM> mornin from the other side of the globe

19:11 <KathrynM> I'm off to the institution of english education for small parasites :)

19:11 <KathrynM> laterz all

19:12 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

19:12 <PovAddict> VERSION

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20:17 <tricaric> hi

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20:21 <efc> Got ultra DMA turned back on.. makes a big difference

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20:28 <efc> Finally got all 2 gigs of RAM working, too

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20:39 <wdsmia> &weather 50319

20:39 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 28.1F / -2.2C | Humidity: 70% | Pressure: 29.89in / 1012.1hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A 20 percent chance of snow late in the night. Not as cold. Low in the lower 20s. East wind near 10 mph.; Wednesday - Cloudy. Snow likely in the morning...then a chance of snow in the afternoon. Snow accumulation of (1 more message)

20:39 <wdsmia> &more

20:39 <Romulus> wdsmia: 1 to 2 inches. High around 30. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the northwest 10 to 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph in the afternoon. Chance of snow 70 percent.; Wednesday Night - Cloudy early in the evening then becoming partly cloudy. Colder. Low 10 to 15. Northwest wind 10 to 15 mph with gusts to around 30 mph.;

20:40 * wdsmia is sick of cold and snow

20:41 <MTughan> Yeah, well we get a huge ice storm overnight.

20:41 <efc> &weather 31088

20:41 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 65F / 18C | Humidity: 67% | Pressure: 29.70in / 1006hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 30s. West winds 5 to 15 mph.; Wednesday - Sunny. Highs in the lower 60s. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Wednesday Night - Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 30s. Light and variable winds.; Wind Advisory for Houston (1 more message)

20:41 <MTughan> &weather Toronto

20:41 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 28°F / -2°C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 29.87in / 1011hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 29mph / 46km/h | Updated: 8:36 PM EST; Tonight - Cloudy. Snow beginning early this evening changing to ice pellets mixed with freezing rain near midnight and then to snow overnight. Snow and ice pellet amount 10 to 15 cm(3.9 to 5.8 in). Local blowing snow late this (2 more messages)

20:41 <MTughan> &more

20:41 <Romulus> MTughan: evening and overnight. Wind east 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming northeast 40 km/h (25 mph) gusting to 60 km/h (37 mph) this evening. Low -2C(28F).; Wednesday - Snow ending late in the morning then cloudy. Amount 2 cm(0.8 in). Local blowing snow in the morning. Wind north 30 km/h (19 mph) gusting to 50 km/h (31 mph) becoming west 20 km/h (12 mph) early in the afternoon. Temperature steady near -2C(28F). (1 more message)

20:42 <MTughan> 10-15cm of blowing snow and ice pellets.

20:42 <MTughan> 10-15cm is about 4-6 inches.

20:42 <MTughan> You still want to complain about cold and snow, wdsmia?

20:43 <wdsmia> had that yesterday

20:43 <MTughan> Oh, probably the same storm then...

20:43 <MTughan> Well, still sucks. Although I probably won't have school tomorrow.

20:44 <wdsmia> well I'll have work the Gov wont let us close

20:45 <MTughan> You work for the Gov't?

20:45 <wdsmia> public safety

20:46 <MTughan> Ah...

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20:55 <MTughan> PovAddic1: Still wanting to complain about heat with the weather we've been having?

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21:11 <MTughan> Seems we had a netsplit...

21:12 <wdsmia> seems so

21:12 <PovAddict> big wun

21:12 <MTughan> Did I seem to quit?

21:12 <efc> LA was nuked. Sorry for the inconvenience.

21:12 <PovAddict> well gee

21:12 <MTughan> lol...

21:13 <PovAddict> next time please nuke states that are NOT hosting freenode servers

21:14 <MTughan> I had ChanServ quit here.

21:14 <MTughan> [21:08] <efc> Routing around nuclear detonation, please be patient...

21:14 <MTughan> For those split who missed that.

21:15 <efc> Skynet has noted your request

21:16 <PovAddict> has anyone heard about that guy who managed to get BitTorrent software on the iPhone?

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21:29 <MTughan> Heh, Doug can't get anything for him...

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21:33 <MTughan> Doug: You can't get anything going for you today, can you?

21:33 <MTughan> Netsplit twice now...

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21:36 <MTughan> Anyway, I have some math homework to work on... 41 questions due Friday.

21:36 <PovAddict> :o

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22:07 <efc> &math convert 1977 C to F

22:07 <Romulus> efc: 3590.6

22:09 * KathrynM is back (gone 02:57:25)

22:12 <MTughan> &math convert 451 F to C

22:12 <Romulus> MTughan: 232.777777778

22:13 <PovAddict> KathrynM: what do you think of trac #570?

22:13 <PovAddict> &bticket 570

22:13 <Romulus> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/ticket/570

22:13 <KathrynM> I think it's a good idea.

22:13 <KathrynM> The info is in the message tab, but sometimes it's hard to pull it out with all the other stuff going on.

22:14 <PovAddict> it's all so ugly :)

22:14 <MTughan> I can work that into mine too.

22:14 <KathrynM> :)

22:15 <PovAddict> MTughan: well...

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22:36 <efc> &math convert 2.4 meters to inches

22:36 <Romulus> efc: 94.4881889764

22:36 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

22:37 <Bad_At_Home> Howdy Efc

22:38 <efc> Moo

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22:59 <atompussy> hi

22:59 <MTughan> Hey.

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23:13 <PovIpod> &ping

23:13 <Romulus> pong

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23:27 <efc> &math convert 9.6 meters to feet

23:27 <Romulus> efc: 31.4960629921

23:29 <efc> You should worry when I use &convert

23:29 <PovIpod> lol

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23:31 <PovIpod> we had a split?

23:31 <MTughan> Yep.

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23:38 <MTughan> I'm off to bed...

23:38 <MTughan> &nn\

23:38 <Romulus> Bugger all, I dunno!

23:38 <MTughan> &nn

23:38 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

23:38 <MTughan> "Bugger all, I dunno!" sounds like something my friend would say... :P

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