IRC logs of #boinc for Wednesday, 2008-03-05

00:00 <MTughan> &cad

00:00 <Romulus> http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php

00:00 <MTughan> &xkcd

00:00 <Romulus> http://www.xkcd.com/

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00:14 <Wabbit98> yo

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00:30 <CoderForLife> hmm  back to bed

00:37 <Tank_Master> gn

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03:23 <tricaric> hi

03:24 <tricaric> anyone here has some experience on compiling a BOINC app under Windows using the MINGW compiler?

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04:06 <clusty> boo

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04:31 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

04:31 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 29.3F / -1.5C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Cloudy with isolated snow showers early this morning... then partly sunny late this morning and afternoon. Highs in the lower 40s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 20 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the (1 more message)

04:31 <CoderForLife> &more

04:31 <Romulus> CoderForLife: evening...then becoming mostly cloudy. Lows around 30. South winds around 5 mph.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy. Highs in the upper 40s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming northwest in the afternoon.; Flood Warning for Hamilton County in effect until 9:18 AM EST on March 07, 2008; Flood Advisory for Hamilton County in effect until 11:38 AM EST on March 05, 2008;

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04:37 <fishsponge> which is the latest *stable* release of the BOINC client? i need to know which tag to check out of svn... 5.10.28 or 5.10.39

04:38 <fishsponge> or perhaps 5.10.45 ?

04:42 <fishsponge> this is for SuSE Linux 10.1 btw...

04:47 <CoderForLife> hello fishsponge

04:48 <CoderForLife> I was thinking the current stable Linux version was 5.10.28

04:48 <CoderForLife> &linux

04:48 <Romulus> CoderForLife: "linux" could be http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_ubuntu_5.10.44_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh

04:49 <CoderForLife> well.. I wouldn't rush off to use *that* on SuSE

04:52 <clusty> well lastest SVNs work kinda of for me

04:55 <CoderForLife> and on that happy news...  brb  breakfast

05:00 <CoderForLife> b

05:00 <efc> moo

05:01 <CoderForLife> moo efc

05:02 <CoderForLife> once again, Ohio had made it's contribution to presidential politics

05:02 <CoderForLife> has*

05:03 <clusty> CFL why?

05:03 <clusty> barack?

05:03 <efc> &seen sethy

05:03 <Romulus> efc: sethy was last seen in #boinc 9 hours, 54 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <sethy> morning all from the great britain land

05:06 * KathrynM is back (gone 06:30:04)

05:07 <clusty> KathrynM, quit pricking me on facebook :D

05:07 <clusty> i am getting a bruise on my ribs

05:07 <KathrynM> lol

05:07 <KathrynM> but you keep poking back

05:07 <clusty> its a matter of honour

05:08 <clusty> :D

05:08 <KathrynM> :)

05:13 <CoderForLife> Morning KathrynM

05:14 <CoderForLife> clusty: because Kathryn's home state just helped revivie Hillary's campaign

05:14 <CoderForLife> revive*

05:14 <KathrynM> hmmm...  Guess I'll have to take a peak at cnn

05:15 <CoderForLife> do you vote from over there?

05:15 <clusty> so which do you prefer guys?

05:15 <KathrynM> not in primaries

05:15 <clusty> hillary or barack?

05:15 <KathrynM> I never vote in primaries.  Just issues.

05:16 <CoderForLife> um - that would be a big NEITHER ONE from this corner of Ohio

05:16 <KathrynM> lol

05:16 <clusty> now you know how I feel

05:17 <clusty> left more like

05:17 <clusty> felt*

05:17 <clusty> i am never happy with the choice of candidates

05:17 <CoderForLife> local school levy was defeated by 84 votes

05:17 <clusty> and most of the time i end up not voting

05:17 <KathrynM> ouch

05:17 <KathrynM> 84?

05:17 <clusty> levy?

05:17 <clusty> whats that?

05:17 <KathrynM> will the recount?

05:18 <KathrynM> *they

05:18 <CoderForLife> not sure -  didn't see anything on that

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05:19 <CoderForLife> &dict levy

05:19 <Romulus> CoderForLife: moby-thes, gcide, easton, wn, bouvier, and gaz-county responded: wn: levy n 1: a charge imposed and collected 2: the act of drafting into military service [syn: {levy en masse}] v 1: impose and collect; "levy a fine" [syn: {impose}] 2: cause to assemble or enlist in the military; "raise an army"; "recruit new soldiers" [syn: {recruit}, {raise}] [also: {levied}]; gcide: Levy (16 more messages)

05:20 <CoderForLife> def #1 - a tax levy on real estate (land property) to support schools

05:20 <clusty> :D

05:21 <clusty> thanks

05:21 <efc> thats our main school tax here

05:21 <efc> they should tax babies instead

05:22 <fishsponge> i'm compiling 5.10.28 for my Suse Linux 10.1 machine (because the 5.10.28_ubuntu version crashes every few hours) but during a "make" i get this:

05:22 <fishsponge> BOINCDialupManager.h:53: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of ‘wxDialUpManager’ with no type

05:22 <fishsponge> BOINCDialupManager.h:53: error: expected ‘;’ before ‘*’ token

05:22 <fishsponge> any suggestions?

05:22 <fishsponge> does Suse 10.1 just not work with BOINC?

05:23 <KathrynM> I've not built the manager, just the client.

05:23 <KathrynM> Did you prepare the proper sacrifices?  :)

05:24 <clusty> fishsponge, what gcc are you using and what wx?

05:24 <clusty> fishsponge, there is no such thing as a linux not working with boinc

05:24 <clusty> just a matter of mopre headaches

05:24 <fishsponge> clusty: "gcc (GCC) 4.1.0 (SUSE Linux)" and "wxWidgets 2.8.7"

05:25 <fishsponge> Kathryn: what are sacrifices?

05:25 <fishsponge> KathrynM: what are sacrifices?

05:25 <clusty> blood

05:25 <clusty> :D

05:25 <KathrynM> ram?

05:25 <KathrynM> I have a dead stick of ram I'd be willing to sacrifice for you :)

05:26 <clusty> i have 4.1.3 gcc , but that shoud not matter

05:26 <clusty> did you get any missing libs during ./configure?

05:28 <fishsponge> clusty: ./configure appears to have worked perfectly... surely it would exit out if any deps were missing though, right?

05:28 <clusty> fishsponge, wrong :D

05:29 <clusty> you will bang your head later

05:29 <clusty> make sure it finds wx/GLx and such

05:29 <clusty> and do it with ./configure --disable-server

05:29 <fishsponge> clusty: ok, what do i need to grep the configure output for?

05:29 <CoderForLife> it's 0530 - time to get ready for w@#%

05:29 <CoderForLife> cya folks

05:29 <fishsponge> clusty: i'm running this (as per the BOINC web site:   ./configure --disable-server --enable-client CXXFLAGS="-O3 -funroll-loops -fforce-addr -ffast-math"

05:30 * CoderForLife waves a page of election results

05:30 <clusty> lemme recompile

05:33 <fishsponge> clusty: do you know what i need to grep for to look for errors in the configure?

05:34 <clusty> fishsponge, nope. sec

05:34 <clusty> i gotta recompile also the wx

05:34 <clusty> patience my young padwan :D

05:40 <clusty> fishsponge, the latest svn compiles

05:40 <clusty> which revision do you have?

05:40 <fishsponge> clusty: i have "boinc_core_release_5_10_28" because that was deemed the latest *STABLE*

05:41 <fishsponge> i need stable, because the 5.10.28_ubuntu version crashes every hour or two

05:41 <clusty> what svn command did you use?

05:41 <clusty> to check out that one

05:41 <fishsponge> svn co http://boinc.berkeley.edu/svn/tags/boinc_core_release_5_10_28

05:41 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1dMO> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

05:44 <efc> I wish s@h would let me buffer up a little more work..

05:46 <fishsponge> clusty: svn co http://boinc.berkeley.edu/svn/tags/boinc_core_release_5_10_28

05:46 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1dMO> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

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05:49 <clusty> fishsponge, works just fine for me

05:50 <clusty> do you have self compiled WX?

05:50 <Romulus> Oshkosh and a real name ?

05:50 <clusty> &stfu

05:50 * Romulus shuts up (fingers crossed)

05:51 <fishsponge> clusty: no, i installed the one available through my package manager built specifically for my distro

05:51 <clusty> compile it yourself

05:51 <clusty> might be that there is something funny with WX

05:51 <fishsponge> ok, will do...

05:51 <fishsponge> what a pain! lol

05:51 <clusty> kill the rpm one

05:52 <clusty> and compile

05:52 <clusty> install in your home

05:52 * KathrynM now realizes why I havne't tried the build the manager yet ;)

05:52 <clusty> and add in CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS -I/asdasdasd/include and -L/asdasdasda/lib

05:52 <clusty> took me 2 weeks to get boinc running like a whistle

05:53 <fishsponge> is there a way to use the manager on one machine to connect to another machine? well... i know there is a way, but it prompt for a password that i've never set, so i dont know what it's supposed to be!

05:53 <KathrynM> fishsponge, yeah

05:53 <KathrynM> but why don't you just compile the core client and use the manager from the berkeley package

05:54 <KathrynM> and honestly, there aren't that many changes beween .21 and .28

05:54 <KathrynM> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=1668

05:54 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1VOT> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

05:54 <KathrynM> that's the change log

05:54 <fishsponge> KathrynM: what is the "berkeley package"?

05:54 <KathrynM> the .sh you can download from the BOINC site

05:56 <fishsponge> KathrynM: that's not a bad idea actually...

05:56 <KathrynM> It will work

05:57 <fishsponge> let me compile wxWidgets first, cos if that works, i'm sorted

05:57 <KathrynM> I compiled 5.10.4? (don't remember the last version) without the manager and just used the manager from the 5.10.21 .sh

06:06 <clusty> fishsponge, works?

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06:12 <fishsponge> clusty: still compiling wxWidgets...

06:12 <fishsponge> god it's slow...

06:16 <fishsponge> clusty: ok, i've run "./configure" and "make" in the wxWidgets dir, and i'm now cd'd into the boinc dir... am i supposed to run the following?

06:17 <fishsponge> ./configure --disable-server --enable-client CXXFLAGS="-O3 -funroll-loops -fforce-addr -ffast-math -L../wxWidgets/lib" CFLAGS="-I../wxWidgets/include"

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06:19 <fishsponge> well, to be more exactl, is this what you mean:     ./configure --disable-server --enable-client CXXFLAGS="-O3 -funroll-loops -fforce-addr -ffast-math -L../wxWidgets-2.8.7/lib" CFLAGS="-l../wxWidgets-2.8.7/include"

06:23 <fishsponge> clusty: u there? is the above command correct?

06:23 <Romulus> There are. They're in disguise.

06:24 <KathrynM> &stfu

06:24 * Romulus shuts up (fingers crossed)

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06:37 <fishsponge> clusty: i guess you've disappeared.... so close, and yet so far!

06:40 <fishsponge> KathrynM: are you still around?

06:40 <fishsponge> KathrynM: currently, i can "Build Components: (client only) "

06:40 <KathrynM> yeah, I'm around fishsponge

06:40 <fishsponge> so i'm going to try your approach of using a different GUI... however, having now run "make", i don't have the .sh file in the sea/ directory as the instructions say i should, so i'm confused...

06:41 <KathrynM> give me a sec to figure out how I built it ;)

06:41 <fishsponge> god i wish this just worked...

06:41 <fishsponge> so frustrating...

06:43 <KathrynM> --prefix=/home/kathryn/boinc-test-build

06:43 <KathrynM> that's all I used to build it.

06:43 <KathrynM> grrr

06:44 <KathrynM> ./configure --prefix=home/kathryn/boinc-test-build

06:44 <fishsponge> ah, so you did a "make install" as well then, right?

06:45 <KathrynM> yeah

06:45 <KathrynM> then download the .sh from berk

06:45 <KathrynM> extract it

06:45 <KathrynM> copy the manager over from that new directory to your build directory

06:46 <fishsponge> ok, so i'm starting off with this:     ./configure --disable-server --enable-client CXXFLAGS="-O3 -funroll-loops -fforce-addr -ffast-math" --prefix=/home/boinc/BOINC-compiled

06:46 <fishsponge> right?

06:47 <KathrynM> I have no idea.  I'm serious when I say the ONLY thing i did was ./configure --prefix=/home/kathryn/boinc-test-build

06:48 <KathrynM> then make and make install

06:48 <fishsponge> hmm... that goes completely against what the BOINC web site recommends! lol

06:48 <KathrynM> lol

06:48 <KathrynM> it worked though :)

06:49 <MTughan> fishsponge: What are you trying to compile from BOINC?

06:49 <fishsponge> why is this such a pain! lol, i'm on about compiling in general - not BOINC. i can't stand compiling for just this reason, it just goes on, and on, and on, and on etc... and usually i lose interest before i've got a working compilation! lol

06:49 <KathrynM> why can't you use 5.10.21?

06:49 <fishsponge> MTughan: i just want to run BOINC, and have the GUI too

06:49 <MTughan> You want to build the core client?

06:49 <fishsponge> but the 5.10.28 "stable" version doesn't work on Suse 10.1 (it crashes every few hours), so i'm trying to compile it up...

06:50 <KathrynM> Do you need a link to .21?

06:50 <fishsponge> what is 5.10.21 and why should i use that instead of 5.10.28 on Suse Linux 10.1?

06:50 <fishsponge> is it known to work and be bug free?

06:50 <MTughan> I know I got a 6.1.8 core client build on Mac for 64-bit Intel machines that works.

06:50 <KathrynM> It works fine for me.

06:51 <KathrynM> IT's just a slightly older version

06:51 <fishsponge> but i'm on Suse 10.1 32 bit, not Mac 64-bit... surely that's a whole different ball game...

06:51 <MTughan> Yeah, but the steps should be similar.

06:51 <fishsponge> so you are suggesting just trying a different version to see if it works, right?

06:51 <KathrynM> yeah

06:51 <KathrynM> basicallyt

06:51 <fishsponge> thank you for your suggestion, but to be honest, if this latest compilation doesn't work, i'm giving up!

06:51 <MTughan> That's not a bad proposition on Kathy's part.

06:52 <KathrynM> I'm running 5.10.21 and it works fine for me.

06:52 <fishsponge> i'm easily defeated when it comes to compiling - and i've almost lost interest - i do really appreciate the help here though :-)

06:52 <MTughan> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_5.10.21_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh

06:52 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/zx1> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

06:52 <MTughan> That's 5.10.21.

06:52 <fishsponge> 5.10.28 works perfectly for me on three other machines, just not my 10.1 box

06:52 <MTughan> Yeah, works fine for me on my Fedora 7 machine.

06:53 <MTughan> Did you try the latest version, 5.10.44?

06:54 <MTughan> Posted just two days ago.

06:54 <MTughan> It's a beta version, but that's just them being safe. There's rarely bugs in them.

06:54 <MTughan> I usually use the latest version on my Macbook.

06:54 <fishsponge> no, because 5.10.28 was listed as the "stable" version, and i only care about stable, not latest... despite the fact that it's probably a bugfix release, the word "stable" is what i followed...

06:55 <MTughan> All right, fair enough. Although checking out an SVN version isn't going to exactly be stable either.

06:56 <fishsponge> but i checked out 5.10.28 from svn, which is apparently "stable" - are you saying the SVN version of 5.10.28 is different from the 5.10.28_ubuntu version available for download from the main site?

06:56 <MTughan> Actually, another thing... Are you able to get a crash log for when it crashes?

06:57 <MTughan> No, the source isn't different true. But I'm sure the code was tested on other distros.

06:57 <fishsponge> how does "http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_5.10.28_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh" differ from the "boinc_ubuntu_5.10.28_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh" available on the main site?

06:58 <KathrynM> the ubuntu one has the gui.  the other doesn't

06:58 <MTughan> They're the same actually.

06:58 <MTughan> Oh, sorry..

06:59 <MTughan> Where did you get the second one from?

06:59 <fishsponge> ah, and 5.10.21 has the GUI as well, i notice...

06:59 <MTughan> Oh, there it is...

06:59 <fishsponge> it's odd that they've removed the GUI unless you download the ubuntu version...

06:59 <fishsponge> 5.10.21 contains GUI, but 5.10.28 does not. However, 5.10.28_ubuntu does

06:59 <MTughan> I need to look harder before I talk...

07:00 <KathrynM> It was a matter of time.

07:00 <MTughan> Yeah, they label it Ubuntu for the newbies who want to run BOINC, because most of them run Ubuntu.

07:00 <KathrynM> Rom is handling the Linux and Windows build plus coding.

07:00 <MTughan> But it runs one most distros.

07:00 <MTughan> on*

07:00 <KathrynM> Trying to get a build with GUI that would run on everyone's machine was getting close to impossible.

07:01 <KathrynM> SO they went to a Ubuntu VM for compiling.

07:01 <fishsponge> ok, well i've given up on compiling for the moment, and i'm running 5.10.21

07:01 <fishsponge> let's see how that goes

07:02 <fishsponge> thanks for the assistance, everyone! :-)

07:02 <MTughan> np

07:02 <KathrynM> good luck

07:02 <MTughan> Although I think Kathy would've gotten you to that point anyway... :P

07:02 <KathrynM> hah.  I'm a linux idiot.

07:02 <KathrynM> Just remember that ;)

07:02 <MTughan> Heh.

07:03 <MTughan> I can do Windows, Mac, and Linux. :D

07:03 * KathrynM bows to MTughan

07:03 <MTughan> lol

08:14 <yoyo[RKN]> PovAddict: ?

08:14 <Romulus> It has been said that PovAddict: is all the work gone, yoyo[RKN]

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08:15 <sambabasse> hi

08:15 <yoyo[RKN]> i want create a file localy at the client and reuse it for the next workunit. therefore I set the result file to

08:15 <yoyo[RKN]>     <generated_locally/>

08:15 <yoyo[RKN]>     <sticky/>

08:15 <yoyo[RKN]>     <report_on_rpc/>

08:16 <yoyo[RKN]> but what about the workunit template?

08:16 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: that's what I asked David, but I never tried his suggestion

08:17 <sambabasse> why mycomputer use only one of my two rpocessor?

08:17 <yoyo[RKN]> it should be referenced there also, at least with <opy_file>

08:17 <PovAddict> hi sambabasse

08:19 <sambabasse> and also, why my preferences doesn't saved when i close the windows

08:19 <MTughan> sambabasse: Could be that BOINC is configured to use only 1 processor at maximum.

08:19 <PovAddict> sambabasse: what project(s) do you run?

08:20 <sambabasse> lhc qmc and spinhenge

08:20 <PovAddict> http://qah.uni-muenster.de/prefs.php?subset=global

08:20 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1dP:> (at qah.uni-muenster.de)

08:20 <PovAddict> "On multiprocessors, use at most" what does it say on the other column?

08:22 <sambabasse> no, and it's not a matter because the manager couldn't save my preferences anyway

08:24 <PovAddict> well you shouldn't really change the prefs on the manager

08:24 <clusty> fishsponge, sorry. went for lunch

08:24 <PovAddict> that makes preferences on the website get ignored

08:24 <clusty> fishsponge, nope

08:25 <clusty> fishsponge, you have to do a setenv or export CFLAGS="-I<full path to WX>/include -L-I<full path to WX>/lib"

08:25 <clusty> fishsponge, and export CXXFLAGS=$CFLAGS

08:25 <PovAddict> export would make it kinda permanent...

08:25 <clusty> permenent till reboot

08:25 <MTughan> export doesn't.

08:25 <clusty> i mean change shell

08:26 <PovAddict> permanent for current shell

08:26 <MTughan> Yes.

08:26 <clusty> who cares

08:26 <clusty> :D

08:26 <PovAddict> why not pass them as arguments to make, so they only apply to that build? :)

08:26 <PovAddict> or better, as arguments to configure

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08:30 <MTughan> 'lo Doug

08:30 <wdsmia_w> mornin

09:09 <KathrynM> woot!  100K @ Einstein :)

09:09 <PovAddict> 10k at proteins

09:10 <KathrynM> woo hoo!

09:10 <KathrynM> crikes.  almost 5K in pending too

09:10 <PovAddict> I have almost 1k pending on proteins too

09:10 <KathrynM> :)

09:11 <PovAddict> my RAC seems to have peaked at 427

09:11 <wdsmia_w> http://www.boincstats.com/signature/user_100947.gif

09:11 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/:8X> (at www.boincstats.com)

09:11 <PovAddict> then went down, probably due to some LHC that distracted me from proteins

09:11 <KathrynM> heh

09:12 <KathrynM> http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu//hosts_user.php?userid=114819

09:12 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1dQ5> (at einstein.phys.uwm.edu)

09:12 <PovAddict> wdsmia: you'll make 8 million tomorrow according to BOINCstats

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09:12 * KathrynM wishes wdsmia would contribute a few machine to me

09:13 <PovAddict> 9 million in only 90 days

09:13 <wdsmia_w> :)

09:13 <MTughan> I need that quad-core...

09:13 <KathrynM> lol

09:13 <KathrynM> we are quite the group

09:13 <PovAddict> KathrynM: and you're a month away from 600k

09:14 <KathrynM> :)

09:14 <KathrynM> another reason to renew my contract here...  if I don't, I lost those two hosts :)

09:14 <MTughan> And that leaves me behind, at just 200K...

09:14 <PovAddict> I'm at 250k :)

09:14 <PovAddict> post your CPID :)

09:14 <MTughan> But you probably have a higher RAC than I do.

09:14 <MTughan> http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_user_graph.php?pr=bo&id=991407

09:14 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/z39> (at boincstats.com)

09:15 <PovAddict> KathrynM: http://boincstats.com/stats/compare_graph.php?pr=bo&table=users&id%5B%5D=991407&id%5B%5D=76151&id%5B%5D=1054926

09:15 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1dQ8> (at boincstats.com)

09:16 <MTughan> Oh, I was catching up to him...

09:16 <KathrynM> nice

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09:16 <MTughan> Kathy's surpassing us all.

09:16 * KathrynM bows

09:16 <PovAddict> http://boincstats.com/stats/compare_graph.php?pr=bo&table=users&id%5B%5D=991407&id%5B%5D=76151&id%5B%5D=1054926&id%5B%5D=100947

09:16 <MTughan> But right now, my dual-core is suspended, so I'm just on the P4.

09:16 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1dQ$> (at boincstats.com)

09:16 * KathrynM thanks the boss lady for letting me run boinc on the two machines in our computer room

09:16 <MTughan> Just wait until I get the quad-core...

09:17 <PovAddict> see my last link, MTughan

09:17 <MTughan> rofl

09:17 <PovAddict> we all get pwned badly

09:17 <KathrynM> lol

09:17 <MTughan> Thanks Doug for making us all feel like crap now. :P

09:17 <KathrynM> :D

09:17 <wdsmia_w> YW

09:19 * wdsmia_w needs another quad

09:19 <PovAddict> I think it's time for MTughan to do another build test :)

09:19 <MTughan> With what?

09:19 <PovAddict> getting my DCC transfer?

09:19 <MTughan> I said I accept it.

09:20 <MTughan> Nothing coming down though.

09:20 <PovAddict> "Awaiting reply"

09:20 <PovAddict> <.<

09:20 <PovAddict> time for tried and working method

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09:20 <Romulus> nah. it's quite amusing to watch messages in my dashboard so I can use transitors as if that works, i'm sorted

09:20 <KathrynM> huh?

09:20 <KathrynM> :)

09:20 <PovAddict> uh, no... you're NOT sorted

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09:32 <yoyo[RKN]> btw PovAddict unzip.exe and file.zip in wu works now

09:40 <KathrynM> yo PovAddict, how do I figure out what directories are in my path?

09:41 <KathrynM> or anyone else who might know :)

09:42 <MTughan> echo $PATH

09:42 <KathrynM> drat.  I knew it was probably something stupidily easy like that

09:46 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

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10:03 <MTughan> I crashed X. :P

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10:04 <MTughan_> Crashed again trying to restart Compiz...

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10:08 <MTughan> And now it's up.

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11:26 <MTughan> Nice... The setup for my new computer if I went with AMD has now dropped below $800...

11:26 <MTughan> &math calc 100 / 0.13

11:26 <Romulus> MTughan: 769.230769231

11:27 <MTughan> Yeah, the RAM alone dropped about $25.

11:28 <MTughan> CPU dropped about $15. Vid card dropped $5, and MB dropped $3.

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11:29 <MTughan> The Phenom 9600 is about $40 cheaper than the C2Q 6600 where I'm buying this now...

11:30 <MTughan> Seems AMD's getting the message that the Phenom is not up to Intel.

11:31 <PovAddict> <Ste|BUSY> Happiness is a maxed out 24" iMac. :P

11:31 <MTughan> lol...

11:32 <MTughan> Default clock of the 24" iMac is 2.4GHz C2D.

11:32 <MTughan> It goes up to a 2.8GHz C2E.

11:34 <MTughan> Wow... An option on the Mac Pro is now a 300GB 15000 RPM drive... 800 bucks a pop, and you can get four of 'em...

11:35 <MTughan> Holy crap... And a Nvidia QuadroFX 5600... 1.5GB RAM?!

11:35 <PovAddict> 1.5GB of VIDEO RAM??

11:35 <MTughan> $2850 for an upgrade to that monster...

11:35 <MTughan> Yeah. VRAM.

11:35 <PovAddict> sheesh

11:36 <MTughan> Here it is: http://www.nvidia.com/object/quadro_fx_5600_4600.html

11:36 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/Jab> (at www.nvidia.com)

11:36 <PovAddict> src/texture.h:93: error: `has_alpha' declared as function returning a function

11:36 <PovAddict> whoops

11:36 <MTughan> Yeah, 1.5GB GDDR3 RAM.

11:37 <MTughan> Sucks power though... Max power of 171W.

11:37 <PovAddict> crap!

11:37 <MTughan> DX10, two dual-link DVI ports.

11:37 <PovAddict> remember I told you I didn't get the same "virtual destructor" warnings as you?

11:37 <PovAddict> I didn't really use gcc4 <.<

11:37 <MTughan> Oh, and SLI. :P

11:37 <MTughan> That would make sense.

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11:38 <MTughan> Man, that video card is a monster...

11:39 <MTughan> There we go... High price for a fully configured Mac Pro: $28,700 CDN. >:D

11:40 <MTughan> I could get a fairly nice car for that price. :P

11:40 <MTughan> The biggest price increase is about $10,000 for RAM. :D

11:41 <MTughan> 8 4GB sticks of 800MHz DDR2 ECC buffered RAM.

11:42 <MTughan> I love doing that from time to time...

11:49 <MTughan> Well, I'm off for lunch. Bye for now.

11:49 <Tank_Master> hf

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12:18 <Tank_Master> ahh

12:19 <Tank_Master> netsplit?

12:19 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

12:19 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 43.5F / 6.4C | Humidity: 84% | Pressure: 30.31in / 1026.3hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Patchy morning clouds and fog...then sunny. Highs in the upper 50s. Light wind...except east wind 10 to 20 mph near The Gorge.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Patchy fog late. Lows in the upper 20s to mid 30s. East wind 5 to 15 mph. (1 more message)

12:19 <Tank_Master> &more

12:19 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Near The Gorge...east wind 15 to 20 mph increasing to 20 to 30 mph after midnight.; Thursday - Partly sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. Highs 55 to 60. South wind 5 to 10 mph.;

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12:48 <CoderForLife> &ping

12:48 <Romulus> pong

12:48 <wdsmia_w> &ding

12:48 <Romulus> DONG!

12:55 <CoderForLife> cable tech just left

12:55 <CoderForLife> broadband speed fixed

12:56 <PovAddict> good

12:57 <CoderForLife> speed is now 12296 kb/s dn, 731 kb/s up, 52 ms ping

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12:57 <CoderForLife> issue was a configuration problem in their database - my cable line tested clean

12:58 <PovAddict> I'd like to try uncapping...

12:58 <PovAddict> but I'm very likely to get in trouble if I succeed

12:58 <CoderForLife> well - I must head back into w@#% - enough of this fooling around at home

12:58 <CoderForLife> cya later

12:59 <CoderForLife> we'll also see if my IRC connection stays up now

12:59 <CoderForLife> buh-bye

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12:59 <PovAddict> should I pingflood you to see if you resist? :)

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13:00 <CoderForLife> do me no favors, please  =)

13:00 <PovAddict> lol

13:00 <CoderForLife> laterzzz =)

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13:56 <FreeLarry58> http://boincstats.com/stats/compare_graph.php?pr=bo&table=hosts&id%5B%5D=2605179&id%5B%5D=3274650&id%5B%5D=3252880

13:56 <Romulus> Title: BOINCstats | BOINC combined - Host stats - Compare (at boincstats.com)

13:57 <FreeLarry58> celeron quap and dual comparison

13:57 <PovAddict> whoa

13:57 <BadBarbarian> 'lo larry & POV

13:57 <PovAddict> red line beat blue line in short time

13:57 <PovAddict> and starting from 0

13:57 <Romulus> I reached 10k already :)

13:57 <FreeLarry58> looks like the quad going to pass the cele (frlar1 - blue)

13:58 <FreeLarry58> short red is the quad

13:58 <FreeLarry58> lo BadBarbarian

13:58 <FreeLarry58> PovAddict you get the pm?

13:59 <PovAddict> yeah

13:59 <PovAddict> didn't dl the disc

13:59 <FreeLarry58> didn't think you would

13:59 <PovAddict> Tank_Master?

14:00 <Tank_Master> oh, yeah?

14:01 <PovAddict> imp work soon, few units

14:03 <PovAddict> &google calc 2213657219.973010 * 129

14:03 <Romulus> PovAddict: 2,213,657,219.973010 * 129 = 2.85561781 * 10^(11)

14:03 <PovAddict> &math calc 2213657219.973010 * 129

14:03 <Romulus> PovAddict: 285561781376.0

14:03 <Tank_Master> k

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14:29 <okolehau> Hello Romulus

14:30 <PovAddict> holy crap he made it in here!

14:30 <okolehau> I just saw the name of the person I'm looking for in the right hand pane.

14:30 <mweltin> hey PovAddict

14:30 <Tank_Master> hi okolehau

14:30 <okolehau> Hello Pov

14:31 <okolehau> It took a while for me to figure out the protocal

14:37 <okolehau> &[platform]

14:37 <Romulus> Dunno.

14:37 <PovAddict> &windows

14:37 <Romulus> PovAddict: "windows" could be http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_5.10.44_windows_intelx86.exe

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14:38 <PovAddict> I hate my connection

14:38 <PovAddict> &linux

14:38 <Romulus> PovAddict: "linux" could be http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_ubuntu_5.10.44_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh

14:38 <PovAddict> I gotta update that

14:39 <PovAddict> &linux

14:39 <Romulus> PovAddict: "linux" could be http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_ubuntu_5.10.45_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh

14:40 <okolehau> Hello Tank_Master

14:50 <yoyo_RKN> PovAddict : I got this fault http://yoyo.pastebin.com/d77456f43 . But the result files were created?

14:50 <Romulus> Title: yoyo private pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at yoyo.pastebin.com)

14:51 <mweltin> PovAddict, can I get ahold of a clients benchmark information?

14:51 <PovAddict> mweltin: you already have it, it's on the host table on the db

14:51 <PovAddict> even shown on the website http://bob.myisland.as/tsp/show_host_detail.php?hostid=2919

14:51 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1dWf> (at bob.myisland.as)

14:51 <PovAddict> "Measured floating point speed"

14:52 <PovAddict> yoyo_RKN

14:52 <mweltin> PovAddict, great.  Now my thought is that I can use that to standardize running time of an appliation.

14:52 <PovAddict> &boincerr -161

14:52 <Romulus> PovAddict: not found

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14:52 <PovAddict> yoyo: -161 is file not found; your app didn't create the output

14:52 <mweltin> PovAddict, you see the experiment I want looks at tsp instance size (i.e. number of cites) vs. algorithm run time.

14:53 <yoyo_RKN> but the files were created, I saw it

14:53 <PovAddict> with the right names?

14:53 <mweltin> PovAddict, I assume I can use the benchmark data to standardize running times, what do you think?

14:53 <PovAddict> that you shouldn't try

14:53 <yoyo_RKN> aaaaaahhhhhh

14:53 <yoyo_RKN> you got it

14:54 <yoyo_RKN> a 's' is missing

14:54 <PovAddict> mweltin: particularly if replication > 1, you'll have trouble; each replication would process different amount of data!

14:54 <PovAddict> okay i g2g

14:56 <mweltin> PovAddict, I'm not sure I follow you, why would running the same instance of a problem process different amounts of data.

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15:01 <mweltin> PovAddict, I'm not sure I follow you.  Why would the same problem instance process different amount of data?

15:01 <PovAddict> you said you want to use benchmarks to make all run the same time

15:02 <PovAddict> a 400MHz machine running for an hour can't produce the same results as a Pentium IV machine running for an hour, so how on earth will you validate those two results together?

15:03 <mweltin> I see, no I wouldn't limit the run time based on benchmark.  I would let them run for as long as needed.

15:03 <PovAddict> then what are you doing with benchmarks? :)

15:03 <mweltin> but after I need to compare run times of a 400MHz and a Pentium IV later

15:04 <mweltin> what I was asking was, COULD I use benchmarks to standardize the run times after the fact.

15:04 <PovAddict> if you make workunits take 2 hours no matter the computer speed, you will definitely get different results depending on the speed

15:05 <mweltin> lets say the PIV takes an hour, and the 400MHz take 2.5 hours how can I compare these ?

15:05 <mweltin> yes I understand that, and taht is not what I want to do.

15:05 <PovAddict> then I don't get what you want to do

15:06 <mweltin> I want them to run to completion.  Well as I mentioned I want to plot run time Vs. instance size.

15:06 <mweltin> so I need to standardize run times.

15:06 <PovAddict> ohh

15:06 <PovAddict> I thought "standardize run times" = "make them all run the same time"

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15:07 <mweltin> it could, but I'd rather standardize them after the fact.

15:07 <mweltin> I assume the benchmark values are different on different machines.

15:07 <PovAddict> sure

15:08 <PovAddict> if you want to just plot, calculate the run times after they're done is the right way

15:08 <mweltin> I was thinking I could use that as a multiplier or scaling factor to be able to compare run times from various machine.

15:08 <PovAddict> are you currently using default benchmark-based credits?

15:09 <PovAddict> claimed credits could be an easy way to get what you need :)

15:09 <mweltin> I'm not at the granting credit yet, but yes the requested credits will be the default (which I assume is benchmark based)

15:09 <PovAddict> they are already time taken / computer speed

15:09 <PovAddict> I mean abuse the claimed credit figure for your plotting needs

15:10 <mweltin> plot requested credit vs. instance size?

15:10 <PovAddict> yep

15:10 <PovAddict> requested credit is already based in time taken / computer speed

15:11 <mweltin> really?  I thought if it ran fast it would request less credit.

15:11 <PovAddict> nope

15:11 <mweltin> I see very different requested credit values for GA and BF results for the same WU.

15:11 <PovAddict> if benchmarks were perfect, fast and slow machines would all claim the same credits per WU

15:11 <PovAddict> (but slow machines would do less WUs a day, so would get less credits/day)

15:13 <mweltin> ok, so I'll just takes tons  and tons of sample points and get an average of claimed credits.

15:13 <mweltin> thanks again PovAddict!

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16:18 <zombie67> pov:  any more work, or was that it?

16:19 <PovAddict> for now, that was it, but I might resend some if I get impatient waiting for them

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16:34 <PovAddict> zombie67: some resends are ouy

16:34 <PovAddict> out*

16:38 <zombie67> thanks

16:40 <Tank_Master> I have a file stuck u/l

16:40 <Tank_Master> or is extreamly slow

16:40 <Tank_Master> .48k/s

16:43 <Tank_Master> there it finally goes

16:43 <Tank_Master> its all PovAddict's fault

16:43 <Tank_Master> :P

16:49 <zombie67> all done here

16:51 <zombie67> is that all for now?

16:53 <PovAddict> yeah

16:53 <PovAddict> I confirmed radiosity doesn't play nice with the farm - did you see the %progress? :)

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17:07 <Tank_Master> yes

17:07 <Tank_Master> was sweet

17:07 <Tank_Master> reminded me of Burp

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17:37 <wdsmia> so Pasquale when's the windows app going to be ready :)

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17:39 <wdsmia> *lo Don

17:40 <CoderOnTheCouch> *same to you Doug =)

17:40 <CoderOnTheCouch> so much for the "wonder if this will stay connected all afternoon"

17:40 <CoderOnTheCouch> &seen CoderForLife

17:40 <Romulus> CoderOnTheCouch: CoderForLife was last seen in #boinc 4 hours, 40 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: <CoderForLife> laterzzz =)

17:41 <PovAddict> &any CoderForLife

17:41 <Romulus> PovAddict: CoderForLife was last seen in #boinc 3 hours, 51 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: *** CoderForLife has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))

17:42 <wdsmia> that was about the netsplit time

17:44 <CoderOnTheCouch> ah

17:44 <CoderOnTheCouch> thanks for the info Doug and Nic

17:45 <CoderOnTheCouch> bandwidth is much better now

17:45 <wdsmia> I got kicked off mbit about the same time

17:46 <CoderOnTheCouch> 13312 kb/s down, 734 kb/s up, 55 ms ping

17:47 <PovAddict> I just paused bittorrent

17:47 <PovAddict> will do speedtest in a while

17:48 * CoderOnTheCouch starts Coding music (Whisperings)

17:48 <CoderOnTheCouch> &weather 45140

17:48 <Romulus> CoderOnTheCouch: Temperature: 36.5F / 2.5C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 30.02in / 1016.5hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy until early morning...then becoming mostly cloudy. Lows around 30. Southwest winds around 5 mph.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy. Highs in the upper 40s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming northwest in the (1 more message)

17:49 <CoderOnTheCouch> &more

17:49 <Romulus> CoderOnTheCouch: afternoon.; Thursday Night - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of snow toward daybreak. Lows in the upper 20s. North winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 20 percent.; Flood Warning for Hamilton County in effect until 7:40 AM EST on March 07, 2008;

17:50 <wdsmia> &weather 50319

17:51 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 23.7F / -4.6C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 30.05in / 1017.5hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 4.0mph / 6.4km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy in the evening then becoming partly cloudy. Colder. Low 10 to 15. Northwest wind 5 to 15 mph.; Thursday - Partly sunny. A 20 percent chance of snow in the afternoon. High in the mid 20s. North wind near 10 mph.; (1 more message)

17:51 <wdsmia> &more

17:51 <Romulus> wdsmia: Thursday Night - Mostly cloudy with a chance of snow in the evening...then partly cloudy with a slight chance of snow after midnight. Low 5 to 10 above. Northeast wind around 10 mph. Chance of snow 30 percent.;

17:57 <Romulus> New news from boinc: BOINC news Mar 5, 2008

17:57 <Tank_Master> IE8 Beta 1 is now aval for d/l

17:57 <Tank_Master> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/ie/ie8/readiness/Install.htm

17:57 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1dTL> (at www.microsoft.com)

17:57 * KathrynM is back (gone 08:11:11)

17:57 <Tank_Master> wb

17:58 <KathrynM> mornin'

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17:59 <PovAddict> I got texture transparency to work on the primegrid screensaver code

18:00 <PovAddict> but it looks ugly

18:00 <Romulus> yea that's how it goes

18:00 <PovAddict> yeah Romulus

18:00 <Tank_Master> lol

18:00 <KathrynM> rommie's an expert on ugly :)

18:01 <Tank_Master> lol

18:01 <Tank_Master> true dat

18:05 <CoderOnTheCouch> hello Tank_Master KathrynM

18:05 <KathrynM> mornin' CoderOnTheCouch

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18:05 <KathrynM> how's life?

18:05 <CoderOnTheCouch> faster

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18:05 <KathrynM> :)

18:05 <Romulus> Lorvija: ther'es a couple of NAND gates to latch the final count

18:05 <KathrynM> of course there are rommie.  everyone knows *that*

18:06 * CoderOnTheCouch nods vigorously

18:06 <KathrynM> lol

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18:11 <PovAddict> http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar/pgss.png

18:11 <PovAddict> http://www.primegrid.com/images/screensaver_concept.jpg

18:11 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1d_N> (at www.primegrid.com)

18:11 <PovAddict> spot the differences?

18:11 <PovAddict> one is ugly, one isn't

18:13 <Tank_Master> one is a plain background, the other is matrixfied

18:13 <PovAddict> yes, but I have the Photoshop file for the cool-looking one

18:13 <PovAddict> and after removing the matrix-like numbers, it still looks way better than mine

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18:37 <CoderOnTheCouch> is there some kind of IRC connection checker/monitor that you could run to watch for and diagnose connection issues?

18:37 <PovAddict> MSN and google talk disconnect even more often

18:37 <PovAddict> so... can't blame IRC

18:38 <CoderOnTheCouch> I only care about IRC

18:38 <PovAddict> wait are you talking about *your* connection issues or mine?

18:39 <CoderOnTheCouch> mainly the sign off/on every 30 seconds I'm seeing in PMs between me and anybody

18:39 <PovAddict> I think IRC doesn't even have such thing as sign on/sign off notifications

18:40 <PovAddict> so that must be a Miranda problem

18:40 <Romulus> they needed to be on the couch

18:40 <CoderOnTheCouch> ok.......

18:40 <CoderOnTheCouch> to my point

18:40 <CoderOnTheCouch> I want to know what's up

18:40 <CoderOnTheCouch> or down

18:40 <PovAddict> lol

18:40 <CoderOnTheCouch> or down and up

18:40 <CoderOnTheCouch> and *why*

18:40 <PovAddict> silly bot

18:41 <CoderOnTheCouch> I AM on the couch

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18:41 <PovAddic1> sheesh

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18:52 <KathrynM> laterz all

18:52 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

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18:53 <Soul_keeper> http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/story.aspx?guid=%7BBD62A45B%2D901F%2D48A5%2DA307%2DA8DF0E2096F6%7D&siteid=rss

18:53 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1d_k> (at www.marketwatch.com)

18:53 <Soul_keeper> wow 4 of the top 10 wealthiest people in the world are indians ...

18:53 <Soul_keeper> your telemarketing dollars hard at work

18:53 <PovAddict> not that surprising

18:54 <PovAddict> probably the telemarketers get paid coins and some bastard keeps a very big % of what the US company pays for the telemarketing service

18:54 <Soul_keeper> yup

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19:14 <zombie67> hmmm....the AI admin is hiding posts of mine

19:16 <zombie67> did I write something bad?

19:17 <tricaric> hi

19:17 <zombie67> hello

19:17 <tricaric> I have a little problem: the upload/download server seems to be diabled

19:17 <tricaric> http://orbit.psi.edu/oah/server_status.php

19:17 <Romulus> Title: Server status page (at orbit.psi.edu)

19:17 <tricaric> how can I enable it?

19:18 <zombie67> I believe the status page has a bug, where it shows disabled, even when it isnt't

19:18 <zombie67> POV would know for sure

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19:20 <zombie67> POV is usually not got for very long.

19:20 <zombie67> but you may need to ask again.  looks like he is having network issues

19:20 <tricaric> hehe, ok

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19:22 <PovAddict> I tihnk there's something on config.xml you may be missing

19:22 <PovAddict> -typos

19:22 <PovAddict> do you have a <www_host> on your config?

19:23 <tricaric> nope

19:23 <PovAddict> ah wait, that's set to the same as <host> by default

19:23 <PovAddict> do you have uldl_pid?

19:24 <tricaric> nope

19:24 <PovAddict> search for an httpd.pid file

19:24 <PovAddict> probably in /var/run or somewhere like that

19:25 <tricaric> I have /var/run/apache2.pid

19:25 <PovAddict> that will do :)

19:26 <PovAddict> <uldl_pid>/var/run/apache2.pid</uldl_pid>

19:26 <tricaric> hmm... OK, let me try!

19:26 <tricaric> do I need to stop/start after that?

19:26 <PovAddict> if that pid file isn't there, it would mean apache is not running, so people couldn't get into the server status page anyway!

19:26 <PovAddict> however, the mechanism is made so your downloads/uploads can be handled by a different physical server

19:29 <tricaric> thanks, let's see what happens...

19:29 <tricaric> the server_status page is cached... takes forever to refresh

19:29 <PovAddict> rm -rf html/cache/*

19:29 <tricaric> ha! says running now! Great, thanks!!

19:30 <PovAddict> I personally consider the mechanism a bit useless...

19:30 <FreeLarry58> PovAddict sent pm to you dealing with riesel project

19:30 <PovAddict> I modified it to read "upload server" (no download) and to check for stop_upload existence

19:31 * CoderOnTheCouch grabs a huge towel and tosses it into the room

19:31 <CoderOnTheCouch> I'm throwing in the towel for the evening

19:31 <CoderOnTheCouch> cya folks

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19:32 <PovAddict> tricaric: maybe also useful: mod server_status so the cache expires earlier

19:32 <PovAddict> like... 1 minute or so

19:32 <PovAddict> it gets really annoying when you're tracking down server problems and server status shows 15-mins old data

19:33 <tricaric> yes, it does...

19:33 <tricaric> still, it's not sending any work out: the scheduler.log looks like this:

19:33 <tricaric> 2008-03-05 17:32:30.0650 [PID=7068 ] [debug   ] REQUEST_METHOD=POST CONTENT_TYPE=application/x-www-form-urlencoded HTTP_ACCEPT=*/* HTTP_USER_AGENT=BOINC client (windows_intelx86 5.10.28)

19:33 <tricaric> 2008-03-05 17:32:30.0650 [PID=7068 ] [debug   ] CONTENT_LENGTH=13611 from 59.134.154.173

19:33 <tricaric> 2008-03-05 17:32:30.6202 [PID=7068 ] [normal  ]  Handling request: IP 59.134.154.173, auth c4695f5f560e40f1e6d3d9ebe238914c, host 547, platform windows_intelx86, version 5.10.28, work req 330 sec

19:33 <tricaric> 2008-03-05 17:32:30.6244 [PID=7068 ] [debug   ]  Request [HOST#547] Database [HOST#547] Request [RPC#66] Database [RPC#65]

19:33 <tricaric> 2008-03-05 17:32:30.6247 [PID=7068 ] [normal  ]  Processing request from [USER#433] [HOST#547] [IP 59.134.154.173] [RPC#66] core client version 5.10.28

19:33 <tricaric> 2008-03-05 17:32:30.6248 [PID=7068 ] [debug   ]  using working prefs

19:33 <tricaric> 2008-03-05 17:32:30.6248 [PID=7068 ] [debug   ]  [HOST#547] is reliable (OS = Microsoft Windows Vista) expavg_credit = 0 avg_turnaround(hours) = 0

19:33 <tricaric> 2008-03-05 17:32:30.6248 [PID=7068 ] [debug   ]  [HOST#547] got request for 330.354571 seconds of work; available disk 8.581990 GB

19:33 <tricaric> 2008-03-05 17:32:30.6249 [PID=7068 ] [normal  ]  [HOST#547] Sent 0 results [scheduler ran 0.560159 seconds]

19:33 <tricaric> 2008-03-05 17:32:30.6715 [PID=7068 ] [debug   ]   [HOST#547] MSG(high) No work sent

19:33 <tricaric> 2008-03-05 17:32:30.6715 [PID=7068 ] [normal  ]   sending delay request 7.000000

19:34 <PovAddict> ./bin/show_shmem

19:34 <PovAddict> also, next time use something like www.pastebin.com...

19:34 <PovAddict> a dozen lines pasted right into the chat get annoying

19:34 <tricaric> ok, sorry

19:36 <tricaric> http://pastebin.com/m338a55c2

19:36 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)

19:37 <PovAddict> so you do have work there

19:38 <tricaric> looks good?

19:39 <PovAddict> hmm yep...

19:40 <tricaric> wu template: http://pastebin.com/me5ff90

19:40 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)

19:41 <tricaric> and result template:

19:41 <tricaric> http://pastebin.com/m10ccf979

19:41 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)

19:41 <PovAddict> I don't know what could have it stuck

19:41 <PovAddict> try ./bin/stop;./bin/start

19:42 <tricaric> ok

19:45 <PovAddict> &factoids change #boinc OSX 1 s/44/45/

19:45 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

19:45 <PovAddict> &factoids change #boinc macintosh 1 s/44/45/

19:45 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

19:50 <tricaric> another issue: php doesn't seem to connect to mysql from command line... I get errors such as:

19:50 <tricaric> Call to undefined function mysql_pconnect() in /home/boinc/projects/oah/html/inc/db.inc on line 23

19:51 <tricaric> but on apache, php works fine

19:51 <PovAddict> php-cli may be using a different configuration

19:51 <PovAddict> lacking mysql support completely

19:54 <tricaric> ha! OK, I've copield the php.ini relative to apache to the cli one... seems to work better now..

19:59 <wdsmia> shouldnt it down load the app even with no work sent?

19:59 <PovAddict> nope

19:59 <PovAddict> files (apps included) are downloaded along with the first workunit that needs it

20:00 <wdsmia> ok

20:04 <tricaric> how do I remove WUs from the queue?

20:05 <tricaric> I mean remove results ready to be sent out

20:16 <tricaric> every now and then, I get these messages in scheduler.log:

20:16 <tricaric> 2008-03-05 13:53:20.6735 [PID=25428] [CRITICAL]   Caught signal 15 [scheduler ran 768.110977 seconds].  Exit(1)ing

20:16 <tricaric> 2008-03-05 18:14:39.8914 [PID=9245 ] [CRITICAL]   Caught signal 15 [scheduler ran 618.178703 seconds].  Exit(1)ing

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21:25 <nickuwo> Ey!!

21:26 <Tank_Master> hey

21:26 <nickuwo> how's it goin

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21:31 <Tank_Master> not to bad

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22:19 <Tank_Master> wb

22:20 <KathrynM> thx

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23:03 <zombie67> my max tasks is set to 2 for DepSpid.  Yet I have 3 tasks

23:06 <zombie67> sarged has the same problem

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23:38 <zombie67> i'm getting a bad vibe from the AI admin

23:40 <zombie67> Because we had some interesting discussions on the forum regarding the project development we would like to set up a separate forum for that. We will rename the Technical Issues forum to Project Development. The forum was meant initially for that but because it quickly took a different turn and is currently discouraging new participants from signing up we will convert it.

23:40 <zombie67> convert = delete

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23:46 <tricaric> hello

23:48 <zombie67> hi

23:49 <tricaric> hi zombie67

23:49 <zombie67> was pov able to help earlier?

23:49 <tricaric> is there any FAQ for common BOINC problems, server side?

23:49 <tricaric> yes, he helped a lot, but still the WUs don't seem to get sent out

23:50 <zombie67> not sure.  probably on trac somewhhere

23:50 <tricaric> ok

23:59 <zombie67> fwiw, I am just a user.  I know nothing about how to set up servers.

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