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00:07 <zombie67> ah! you're from orbit!
00:07 <tricaric> yep
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00:10 <zombie67> How far away is work for Windows or OSX?
00:10 <zombie67> days? weeks? Months?
00:10 <zombie67> just trying to get an idea
00:10 <tricaric> well, some WUs are already in queue, for the test app "rng"...
00:11 <tricaric> more serious apps will come in maybe a couple weeks
00:11 <zombie67> Ah! There's a win app just added!
00:11 <zombie67> sweet!
00:13 <zombie67> any plans for OSX?
00:13 <tricaric> that's also possible.. very few OSX hosts registered for now to orbit
00:13 <zombie67> heh. that's 'cuz no apps
00:14 <tricaric> I see...
00:14 <zombie67> I have 6 I could attach.
00:15 <zombie67> for a breakdown look here: http://boincstats.com/stats/project_graph.php?pr=sah&view=hosts
00:16 <zombie67> mac is a bit over 5%...and growing
00:16 <zombie67> they are up to about 10% of new sales now
00:17 <tricaric> OSX it's easier to compile than Win on average, so there should not be problems to keep the apps compiled on all 3 platforms..
00:17 <tricaric> it's mainly a matter of setting up the devel environment on each platform, and keep it updated and working as BOINC gets updated..
00:17 <zombie67> Cool. I know OSX comes last. Good to know it hasn't been ruled out
00:18 <tricaric> absolutely... I also plan to provide apps for x86-64 linux
00:19 <zombie67> nice. you will prpbably get a lot of requests for win 64, assuming 64 bit improves performance
00:19 <zombie67> for your app
00:21 <tricaric> that's is a bit harder, I don't have such platform to compile on it... but orbit@home is going to release the sources of the app, os that volunteers can port it to whatever platform they wish
00:24 <zombie67> Ah! great news. There are a number of folks who have done that for all the open source projects. They'll be begging for the source code.
00:26 <Wabbit98> right, it says KWSN already exists at Orbit, yet when I search for it; it does not show up
00:27 <tricaric> ?
00:28 <Wabbit98> The Knights Who Say Ni!
00:28 <Wabbit98> I created my account and tried to create the team
00:28 <Wabbit98> but it said it already existed
00:28 <Wabbit98> I went and searched for it and I could not find it
00:28 <Wabbit98> must be blind
00:33 <Wabbit98> thanks
00:34 <Romulus> this overgrown honeysuckle around my property doesn't stand a chance to spin down
00:34 <Romulus> Title: orbit@home (at orbit.psi.edu)
00:34 <Romulus> Title: orbit@home (at orbit.psi.edu)
00:35 <Wabbit98> it worked
00:36 <zombie67> or use BAM
00:36 <Wabbit98> opps, might be no owkr yet for Win boxes
00:36 <Wabbit98> work
00:37 <zombie67> works just fine
00:37 <zombie67> just no work avail yet
00:38 <tricaric> I'm generating test WUs, but the system doesn't send them out... trying to figure out why...
00:38 <Wabbit98> I can't believe someone beat me and created the KWSN team first
00:38 <Wabbit98> tricaric, if it helps I am not getting any error messages about no work being sent
00:38 <tricaric> what does the client says?
00:39 <Wabbit98> 3/5/2008 9:38:16 PM|orbit@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 2385 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
00:39 <Wabbit98> 3/5/2008 9:38:21 PM|orbit@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
00:39 <Wabbit98> 3/5/2008 9:38:21 PM|orbit@home|Message from server: No work sent
00:41 <tricaric> thanks
00:41 <tricaric> yes, that's the problem... nothing gets sent, with no error... that makes it difficult to understand what's wrong..
00:41 <tricaric> ;)
00:41 <Wabbit98> as I said
00:41 <Wabbit98> it probably does not help much
00:42 <zombie67> calling POV!
00:43 <zombie67> naw
00:44 <zombie67> it's 3:43 Am there
00:44 <Wabbit98> call MT
00:44 <Romulus> Tanpaku is my ACO only takes a certin style of instance file is called "worker"?
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00:54 <Wabbit98> tricaric any ideas of why you are creating WU's, but that they are not going out?
00:56 <zombie67> wabbit, that is what he is here for
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00:56 <zombie67> he has been asking for help
00:56 <tricaric> not really... I'm checking the parameters of the WU, like flops limit and so... It looks connected to the right application in the db
00:56 <zombie67> problem is that it is 4:00 AM for POV
00:57 <tricaric> hey, don't worry... it's a learning process for me anyway
01:00 <zombie67> I have been watching admins bringing up many projects. Never seen this problem before.
01:01 <Wabbit98> most of the time I get some sort of weird error
01:01 <Wabbit98> and sometimes BOINC has just shut down on me
01:06 <zombie67> tricaric. a request
01:06 <zombie67> can you please add a link to Server Status to the home page?
01:07 <Romulus> Title: Server status page (at orbit.psi.edu)
01:07 <tricaric> sure, I plan to do this soon
01:07 <zombie67> thanks. That is really helpful to let folks look on their own, rather than having to ask all the time.
01:11 <tricaric> done
01:16 <zombie67> really?
01:17 <tricaric> yep, in the Status menu of the main page
01:17 <zombie67> Ah!
01:17 <zombie67> Thanks.
01:18 <Romulus> Title: orbit@home (at orbit.psi.edu)
01:18 <Romulus> Title: TSP (at bob.myisland.as)
01:19 <Romulus> Title: MindModeling@Home (Beta) (at mindmodeling.org)
01:23 <tricaric> OK, I'll add that later..
01:25 <zombie67> thanks again.
01:31 <Tank_Master> hey
01:31 <Tank_Master> the orbit guys is here to clean the galixy
01:31 <Tank_Master> ;)
01:31 <Wabbit98> the roomba will clean the universe
01:32 <Tank_Master> ahh
01:32 <Tank_Master> my bad
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01:41 <tricaric> it's working!!
01:41 <tricaric> sending out WUs now!
01:42 <Wabbit98> dang work is already gone
01:42 <tricaric> the problem was because I set the "beta" flag to 1 in the app description, and for some reason, no client wanted it
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01:43 <tricaric> it's a really quick test app, takes just seconds...
01:52 <zombie67> ah!
01:53 <zombie67> there is a project preference you can enable, that then users can turn on/off for test work
01:54 <zombie67> that is probably what that beta flag is for
01:54 <zombie67> It is officially "Run test applications?"
01:57 <zombie67> yeah, I received none too
01:57 <zombie67> major milestone! celebrate!
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01:58 <Wabbit98> time to get drunk and party
01:59 <nickuwo> way ahead of ya
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02:00 <Tank_Master> lol
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02:01 <Wabbit98> right
02:03 <Romulus> Title: BetaTest - BOINC - Trac (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
02:08 <Wabbit98> tricaric problem
02:08 <Wabbit98> 3/5/2008 11:04:27 PM|orbit@home|[error] Signature verification failed for rng.input.dat
02:08 <Wabbit98> 3/5/2008 11:04:27 PM|orbit@home|[error] Checksum or signature error for rng.input.dat
02:08 <Wabbit98> tried to download some WU's, they all failed
02:09 <Wabbit98> 3/5/2008 11:06:29 PM|orbit@home|Temporarily failed download of rng_1.0_windows_intelx86.exe: http error
02:09 <tricaric> thanks
02:09 <Wabbit98> it was an ugly sight
02:09 <Wabbit98> so many download failed
02:11 <Wabbit98> and now time for bed
02:12 <tricaric> 'night
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02:37 <zombie67> yeah, can't d/l the exe
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04:11 <mweltin> who kons anything aobut this single job submission for boinc?
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04:25 <zombie67> no one but DA
04:25 <zombie67> tricaric needs your help if is still awake
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04:53 <CoderForLife> morning
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04:53 <CoderForLife> so that's what 8 hours of sleep feels like
04:53 <KathrynM> mornin
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04:57 <CoderForLife> um-gah-wah need breakfast be back
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04:58 <Tidus> hi all
04:58 <KathrynM> hi
05:01 <Tidus> how is everybody today?
05:05 <KathrynM> tired. long day at work
05:06 <Tidus> same here. except instead of long day at work, replace with long day taking care of sick fiancee
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05:15 <CoderForLife> back
05:15 <KathrynM_> wb
05:15 <CoderForLife> thx
05:15 <CoderForLife> my, you've grown a tail
05:16 <KathrynM_> yeah, I got kicked off.
05:16 <KathrynM_> Waiting for KathrynM to go away :)
05:16 <CoderForLife> yeah, she can be a problem sometimes
05:16 <KathrynM_> a real pita :)
05:17 <CoderForLife> um-hmm
05:17 * CoderForLife politely doesn't type with his mouth full
05:17 <KathrynM_> lol
05:19 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140
05:19 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 30.0°F / -1.1°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.99in / 1015.5hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 1.2mph / 1.9km/h ; Today - Partly sunny early this morning...then becoming mostly cloudy. Highs in the upper 40s. Southwest winds around 5 mph... becoming northwest this afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of snow after midnight. (2 more messages)
05:19 <CoderForLife> &more
05:19 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Lows in the upper 20s. North winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 20 percent.; Friday - Snow in the morning...mixing with sleet...rain and freezing rain in the afternoon. Snow and sleet accumulation of 1 to 3 inches. Ice accumulation around a trace. Highs in the mid 30s. North winds around 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of precipitation 100 percent.; Winter Storm Watch for Hamilton County (1 more message)
05:20 <CoderForLife> 1 to 3 inches for white death
05:20 <KathrynM_> oooo... a cat fight outside my aparment building
05:20 <CoderForLife> *of
05:20 <KathrynM_> yowling cats
05:20 <KathrynM_> eek
05:20 <CoderForLife> bet they sound eerie
05:20 <CoderForLife> &more
05:20 <Romulus> CoderForLife: in effect until 7:00 PM EST on March 08, 2008; Flood Warning for Hamilton County in effect until 7:40 AM EST on March 07, 2008;
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05:24 <CoderForLife> brb one of my boxes is locked up after all the network gyrations yesterday
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05:50 <clusty> KathrynM, is she pulling her hair?
05:50 <clusty> :D
05:52 <KathrynM> :)
05:52 <KathrynM> LOl clusty
05:52 <clusty> :D
05:53 <clusty> nice to twist ppl's words aint it?
05:53 <KathrynM> lol
05:53 <clusty> i guess you are not into metal
05:53 <clusty> heard of a band called nightwish?
05:53 <Romulus> I see, no I wouldn't rush off to bed...
05:54 <KathrynM> nope
05:55 <clusty> well there is some youtube funny misheard lyricsa
05:56 <CoderForLife> ack
05:57 <CoderForLife> looks like the uplink port from my 13-year-old 10mpbs Synoptics hub to my NetGeat 100mbps switch has gone out
05:57 <CoderForLife> I *hate* it when that happens
05:58 <CoderForLife> NetGear*
05:58 * CoderForLife plots his remediation approach
05:59 <clusty> CoderForLife, i am very disappointed with my netgear router
05:59 <clusty> i torrent quite a bit and need to be able to route a lot off connections at the same time
06:00 <Romulus> that was the amount of data?
06:00 <clusty> &stfu
06:00 * Romulus shuts up (fingers crossed)
06:02 <CoderForLife> My NetGear switch has been great
06:02 <CoderForLife> I also have a spare
06:02 <CoderForLife> NetGear FVS 338 I believe
06:03 <clusty> well my router was cheapo, true
06:03 <clusty> but same pricerange linksys did much better
06:04 <CoderForLife> Looks like my old Synoptics hub can't uplink to the NetGear switch after the broadband stuff yesterday
06:05 <CoderForLife> net impact today is that I have a bunch of boinc machines that can't speak to the Internet
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06:09 <clusty> CoderForLife, how many boinc clients are you running?
06:11 <KathrynM> lol
06:11 <KathrynM> The Linux philosophy is â€˜Laugh in the face of danger.â€™ Oops. Wrong one. â€˜Do it yourself.â€™ Yes, thatâ€™s it.
06:12 <CoderForLife> back
06:12 <CoderForLife> looks like I'm going to order this: http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-FS116-Ethernet-Switch-Uplink/dp/B000063UZW/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1204801701&sr=8-2
06:13 <CoderForLife> for delivery tomorrow
06:15 <CoderForLife> I currently have an 8 port 10mbps hub there
06:18 <CoderForLife> back to data center to prove a theory before ordering
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07:04 <CoderForLife> all fixed
07:05 <CoderForLife> it was a cabling mixup from the work yesterday
07:05 <CoderForLife> I was supposed to be at my desk at work 6 minutes ago
07:05 <CoderForLife> time to get ready to go, I guess
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07:05 <CoderForLife> laters
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08:52 <clusty> fishsponge, how did you solve your boinc issue?
09:00 <KathrynM> clusty, is there a way to find out if a crontab is going to blow up when cron gets around to running it? basically I want to know if I majorly screwed up anything.
09:02 <clusty> hmmm
09:02 <clusty> try running command by hand
09:02 <fishsponge> clusty: i solved it by just using 5.10.21 in the end!
09:02 <KathrynM> hmmmmm
09:02 <clusty> and eyeball that the syntax is ok
09:02 <KathrynM> I wonder if I should just take my chances.
09:02 <KathrynM> It's nothing major.
09:02 <clusty> take chances
09:02 <clusty> :D
09:02 <KathrynM> lol
09:03 <clusty> install mutt
09:03 <clusty> so you can read emails it sends you
09:03 <KathrynM> I've got pine ;)
09:03 <clusty> fine
09:03 <KathrynM> That's part of what I wrote the crontab for. To do monthly mailboxes
09:03 <clusty> i am a mutt :D
09:03 <KathrynM> woof
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09:05 <PovAddict> meow
09:06 <KathrynM> lol
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09:08 <clusty> bettins will continue till the boket returns
09:08 <clusty> :D
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09:10 <KathrynM> well, I'll know in the morning if something blew up.
09:11 <KathrynM> Actually I'll know in about 50 minutes :)
09:11 <KathrynM> But I'm going to bed.
09:12 <Tank_Master> gn
09:12 <Tank_Master> n I just got up
09:12 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...
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09:55 <BadBarbarian> Mornin
09:55 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86046
09:55 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 25.3°F / -3.7°C | Humidity: 44% | Pressure: 23.68in / 801.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 5.8mph / 9.3km/h ; Today - Breezy. Sunny. Highs 36 to 42. Northeast winds 15 to 25 mph with higher gusts.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 11 to 19. Northeast winds 15 to 20 mph.; Friday - Not as cool. Mostly sunny. Highs 44 to 50. Northeast around 15 mph.;
09:55 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86023
09:55 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 12°F / -11.1°C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: in / hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 1mph / 1.6km/h ; Today - Sunny. Highs around 33 on the North Rim to around 58 along the Colorado River. Light winds becoming north around 15 mph in the afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 13 on the North Rim to around 27 along the Colorado River. North winds (1 more message)
09:55 <BadBarbarian> &more
09:55 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: around 15 mph in the evening becoming light.; Friday - Not as cool. Mostly sunny. Highs around 41 on the North Rim to around 65 along the Colorado River. Light winds.;
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13:38 <wdsmia> &weather 50319
13:38 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 30.6°F / -0.8°C | Humidity: 65% | Pressure: 30.19in / 1022.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 4.0mph / 6.4km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. High around 30. West wind near 10 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a 50 percent chance of snow. Low 5 to 10 above. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the north around 15 mph after midnight. Gusts up to 25 (1 more message)
13:38 <wdsmia> &more
13:38 <Romulus> wdsmia: mph. Wind chill readings 5 to 10 below.; Friday - Partly sunny until late afternoon then clearing. Colder. High around 15. North wind around 15 mph. Wind chill readings 5 to 10 below.;
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17:16 * KathrynM is back (gone 08:04:05)
17:17 <CoderForLife> greetings Boinc Fans everywhere and all the ships at sea
17:18 <KathrynM> mornin
17:18 <CoderForLife> I wish
17:18 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140
17:18 <Romulus> CoderForLife: The current temperature in Mitchell Farm, Miami Township, Ohio, Loveland, Ohio is 45.7°F (5:17 PM EST on March 06, 2008). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Windchill: 46.4°F. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Steady). Winter Storm Watch in effect from Friday morning through Saturday evening...
17:18 <KathrynM> it's friday here
17:18 <CoderForLife> wattup with Rommie and the weather
17:18 <KathrynM> I was just gonna ask :)
17:19 <KathrynM> &weather Ulsan
17:19 <Romulus> KathrynM: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
17:19 <CoderForLife> hmm
17:20 <CoderForLife> &oldweather
17:20 <Romulus> I don't have a clue!
17:20 <KathrynM> &weather Seoul
17:20 <Romulus> KathrynM: The current temperature in Seoul Kimpo Airport, South Korea is 26.6°F (7:00 AM KST on March 07, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 26.6°F. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Rising).
17:20 * KathrynM is glad I'm further south
17:20 <CoderForLife> something changed somewhere
17:21 <PovAddict> &weather buenos aires
17:21 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
17:21 <PovAddict> looks like it will finally stop raining
17:21 <KathrynM> lol
17:21 <CoderForLife> &weather 50319
17:21 <Romulus> CoderForLife: The current temperature in Drake Neighborhood, Des Moines, Iowa is 32.5°F (4:21 PM CST on March 06, 2008). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 17.6°F. Windchill: 32.0°F. Pressure: 30.21 in 1022.9 hPa (Falling).
17:22 <CoderForLife> I want the forecast, not the current conditions. Compare this to wdsmia's earlier.
17:23 <CoderForLife> &help weather
17:23 <Romulus> CoderForLife: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
17:23 <Romulus> i suggest you dont attach for now
17:23 <CoderForLife> thanks for the sage advice, silicon brain
17:24 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140
17:24 <KathrynM> lol
17:24 <Romulus> CoderForLife: The current temperature in Mitchell Farm, Miami Township, Ohio, Loveland, Ohio is 45.5°F (5:22 PM EST on March 06, 2008). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Windchill: 42.8°F. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019.2 hPa (Steady). Winter Storm Watch in effect from Friday morning through Saturday evening...
17:24 <CoderForLife> &weather 45201
17:24 <Romulus> CoderForLife: The current temperature in Covedale, Cincinnati, Ohio is 43.2°F (5:24 PM EST on March 06, 2008). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 23.0°F. Windchill: 39.2°F. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Steady). Winter Storm Watch in effect from Friday morning through Saturday evening...
17:24 <KathrynM> &weather 44137
17:24 <CoderForLife> nutz
17:24 <Romulus> KathrynM: The current temperature in Chadbourne Rd., Shaker Heights, Ohio is 34.9°F (5:24 PM EST on March 06, 2008). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 32.0°F. Windchill: 35.6°F. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa (Rising). Winter Storm Watch in effect from Friday afternoon through late Saturday night...
17:24 <KathrynM> wow. totally wrong city too
17:24 <KathrynM> not that far off, but still wrong
17:25 <CoderForLife> yeah 45201 is downtown Cincinnati
17:25 <CoderForLife> Covedale is a bit north
17:25 <CoderForLife> let me try w@#%
17:25 <CoderForLife> &weather 45242
17:25 <KathrynM> &weather 44125
17:25 <Romulus> CoderForLife: The current temperature in Sharonville, 2NE, Sharonville, Ohio is 45.1°F (4:55 PM EST on March 06, 2008). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Windchill: 44.6°F. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019.2 hPa (Steady). Winter Storm Watch in effect from Friday morning through Saturday evening...
17:25 <Romulus> KathrynM: The current temperature in Pearl and Ridge, Parma, Ohio is 37.0°F (5:25 PM EST on March 06, 2008). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 30.2°F. Windchill: 37.4°F. Pressure: 30.21 in 1022.9 hPa (Rising). Winter Storm Watch in effect from Friday afternoon through late Saturday night...
17:25 <KathrynM> that's even futher off ;)
17:26 <KathrynM> and in the opposite direction too
17:26 <CoderForLife> as far as I'm concerned, weather is broken on Rommie
17:26 <KathrynM> I think we've conculsively determined that
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17:28 <CoderForLife> 2 TO 3 INCHES OF SNOW WITH LIGHT ICE ACCUMULATIONS ARE POSSIBLE BY FRIDAY
17:29 <wdsmia> &weather 50319
17:29 <Romulus> wdsmia: The current temperature in Drake Neighborhood, Des Moines, Iowa is 32.5°F (4:28 PM CST on March 06, 2008). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 15.8°F. Windchill: 32.0°F. Pressure: 30.21 in 1022.9 hPa (Falling).
17:29 <CoderForLife> PRECIPITATION WILL CHANGE BACK TO ALL SNOW FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY...WHEN A ROUND OF HEAVIER SNOW WILL BE POSSIBLE. TOTAL SNOW ACCUMULATION OF 6 TO 10 INCHES WILL BE POSSIBLE BY SATURDAY EVENING.
17:29 <PovAddict> ew caps
17:30 <CoderForLife> END-OF-THE-WORLD HEADLINES
17:30 * KathrynM shudders
17:30 <KathrynM> yuck
17:30 <CoderForLife> when you don't have Rommie, you get your weather in whatever caps you can
17:30 <KathrynM> lol
17:31 <wdsmia> 8M
17:31 <wdsmia> :)
17:31 <CoderForLife> Doug is 99.982% pure boinc
17:32 <CoderForLife> I found my problem this morning - didn't have to order any replacement network components
17:33 <KathrynM> nice
17:33 <KathrynM> I found a typo in my new crontab :/
17:33 <CoderForLife> when working with the cable guy, 3 nearly identical gray cables got confused
17:33 <KathrynM> which may actually be a good thing because I think if I hadn't make the typo cron would have blown up
17:33 <KathrynM> you need colored ribbons to tie on them :)
17:34 <CoderForLife> I was an hour late for w@#%, but my servers could report boinc results =)
17:34 <KathrynM> well that's all that imporant
17:34 <KathrynM> important even
17:34 <CoderForLife> indeed
17:34 <CoderForLife> both
17:34 * CoderForLife runs another speedtest
17:36 <PovAddict> official iPhone SDK announced today
17:36 <PovAddict> some bastard on IRC was bragging about how fast he downloaded it
17:37 <CoderForLife> omg
17:37 <PovAddict> indeed
17:37 <PovAddict> apple developer site went down
17:37 <PovAddict> overloaded
17:37 <CoderForLife> 8 ms ping
17:37 <PovAddict> with all the downloads
17:38 <CoderForLife> must be on Internet2
17:38 <PovAddict> or within the same LAN as the speedtest server...
17:38 <CoderForLife> that's an unholy amount of bandwidth
17:38 <PovAddict> yours seems unholy to me too
17:38 <CoderForLife> lol
17:38 <PovAddict> can't do a speedtest myself now
17:38 <CoderForLife> it's a nice bump up
17:38 <PovAddict> downloading via http *and* bittorrent at the same time
17:39 <CoderForLife> since they swapped the modem and fixed the configuration
17:39 <CoderForLife> I wish I had more upload speed
17:39 <KathrynM> glad they got it fixed for you
17:39 <CoderForLife> considering the web sites I host
17:39 <Romulus> anyway, I must head back into w@#% - got a few people really do it
17:39 <CoderForLife> thx K
17:40 <CoderForLife> pick up some weather forecasts on the way, Rommie
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17:47 <KathrynM> anyone feel like figuring out how to change a script so it doesn't require user intervention. I want to run it with cron, but I don't want it to blow up in the middle of the night :)
17:48 <BadBarbarian> 'lo Kat & CFL
17:49 <KathrynM> mornin BadBarbarian
17:49 <BadBarbarian> lol late afternoon here
17:49 <KathrynM> not quite 8 am yet
17:52 <CoderForLife> Hello BB
17:54 <CoderForLife> just for reference, the "A" in CINCINNATI is pointing at my house
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17:58 <CoderForLife> congrats on th 8M wdsmia =)
18:05 <CoderForLife> down to the couch
18:05 * CoderForLife finds that he is already "away"
18:06 <CoderForLife> probably explains the strange out-of-body feeling I was having
18:18 <zombie67> where's my iphone BOINC client?
18:41 <BadBarbarian> lol are you on the I thing again Zombie
18:42 <zombie67> I just figured pov should have written it by now
18:42 <PovAddict> I didn't do anything
18:42 <BadBarbarian> go figure lol...
18:42 <PovAddict> I just sent somebody the link and let him do it
18:42 <PovAddict> last I heard from him... "real life/work got in the way"
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18:43 <KathrynM> too you a while to get to that couch? where was it? Cleveland?
18:43 <BadBarbarian> with the new intel cpu you might be able to run vista on your phone only uses 3.5 watts
18:44 <CoderOnTheCouch> there was a bowl of ice cream in my way
18:44 <KathrynM> lol
18:44 <KathrynM> I hate when those bowls of icecream just jump into my path
18:44 <CoderOnTheCouch> never fear COTC is here
18:44 <CoderOnTheCouch> yeah - into every life a little ice cream must fall
18:45 <PovAddict> \o/
18:45 <CoderOnTheCouch> lol
18:45 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Anonymous - post number 931132 (at pastebin.ca)
18:45 <zombie67> TM, you there?
18:45 <KathrynM> give me a hint on what to change so it will run unatteneded
18:46 <Romulus> [21:44] <TheGasGiant> do you mean I spelled it correctly?
18:47 <KathrynM> every once in a while you get something right rommie
18:48 <CoderOnTheCouch> um - you'll need to pass the answers to the "read"s as parameters
18:49 <zombie67> I did a comparison between three projects with 64 bit apps (that are actually faster w/ 64 bit), and Einstein with the new opt app.
18:49 <zombie67> TSP BF, ABC, PG Sieve
18:49 <zombie67> across 6 machines
18:49 <zombie67> 80 results for each machine at each project
18:50 <zombie67> Except for einstein. I have only a few for each machine there
18:50 <zombie67> the results are pretty interesting
18:50 <KathrynM> oh that helps :/
18:50 <Romulus> Title: "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -- H.L. Mencken (at web.mac.com)
18:50 * KathrynM wishes I wasn't such an idiot
18:50 <zombie67> the file is 64_bit_analysis.xls
18:51 <zombie67> the 3 machines are a C2D, two AMD X2s, and 3 PD 9xx
18:52 <zombie67> For TSP, one of the AMDs was actually faster than the C2D!
18:53 <zombie67> By machine, the project that earned the most credits was ABC, but not by much! The exception was the C2D which did best at PG
18:55 <zombie67> also, with the C2D, the 32 bit opt app for einstein generated almost as much c/h as ABC.
18:57 <zombie67> I was impressed with the performance of the X2 vs. PDs. For the 32 bit stuff, they are not as competitive.
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19:01 <CoderOnTheCouch> moooo
19:01 <KathrynM> oink
19:03 <efc> hey
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19:05 <nickuwo> my wrapper is looking for job.xml but my job file gets downloaded as job_5.40.xml....
19:05 <PovAddict> job.xml is on your application?
19:05 <mweltin> job.xml=job_5.40.xml
19:06 <PovAddict> yea what he said
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19:06 <mweltin> should be the file name
19:06 <nickuwo> in /donwloads/
19:06 <nickuwo> ?
19:06 <mweltin> no in apps/
19:06 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...
19:06 <mweltin> it gets copied to downloads
19:07 <nickuwo> it is, but when I run update versions, it renames it to job_5.40.xml
19:07 <mweltin> but you need that long filename
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19:07 <KathrynM> laters all. enjoy your $TIMEOFDAY
19:07 <mweltin> for example my job.xml file is called
19:07 <mweltin> job.xml=job_1.1.xml
19:07 <nickuwo> ane then my lcient downloads it as that name
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19:07 <mweltin> bye KathrynM
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19:08 <mweltin> yes, but the wrapper knows what to look for job.xml
19:08 <nickuwo> hmm
19:08 <mweltin> yeah
19:08 <nickuwo> mine does not :(
19:08 <mweltin> its all on that wiki page
19:08 <Romulus> i whipped up one for my distro
19:08 <mweltin> you have to make a new version and then run update_vesions
19:08 <nickuwo> ok
19:11 <mweltin> I went through the same sing with Pov just this Monday.
19:12 <nickuwo> did you have signature probs too?
19:12 <nickuwo> cause I am
19:12 <mweltin> no
19:12 <mweltin> are you signing everything in the apps dir?
19:12 <nickuwo> yea
19:13 <nickuwo> even when I let update_versions sign everything my client tells me the sigs do not match
19:13 <mweltin> where are the keys?
19:13 <mweltin> in the project dir?
19:13 <mweltin> I had a similar problem
19:13 <nickuwo> in the keys dir
19:14 <nickuwo> I think
19:14 <mweltin> what are the perms on the keys?
19:14 <nickuwo> perms?
19:14 <nickuwo> oh
19:14 <nickuwo> lemme check
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19:18 <nickuwo> for a minute i thought you were talking about their hairstyles
19:18 <nickuwo> mmmm the 70's
19:20 <mweltin> try 644
19:20 <mweltin> not the safest option
19:21 <mweltin> but should work at least to see if it is a permission issue.
19:21 <mweltin> As I recall the webserver needs to be able to read them.
19:21 <mweltin> I have apache running as an apache user, and that user belongs to the boinc group
19:21 <mweltin> so I have 640 and that works.
19:26 <nickuwo> ok
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19:32 <nickuwo> should I use sign_executable to sign all files in apps or just executables?
19:33 <nickuwo> prolly all
19:33 <CoderOnTheCouch> off 4 2 nite
19:33 <CoderOnTheCouch> c u
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19:38 <mweltin> no crypt_prog
19:39 <nickuwo> I thought I used crypt_prog to generate keys, then sign them with sgin_executable
19:40 <mweltin> could be but I use crypt_prog to sign them as well, that always worked for me.
19:40 <nickuwo> like crypt_prog -sign "file" private_keyfile"
19:41 <mweltin> > file.sig
19:41 <nickuwo> ok
19:41 <nickuwo> hmm
19:41 <mweltin> crypt_prog -sign file privatekey > file.sig
19:41 <nickuwo> I used -test_crypt and it printed "out:foobar"
19:41 <nickuwo> wtf?
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19:51 <mweltin> haha
19:51 <mweltin> cat file.sig
19:51 <nickuwo> ?
19:51 <mweltin> should look like a typical sig file
19:53 <nickuwo> signature verification error
19:53 <nickuwo> all files
19:54 <mweltin> so you made a new directory signed all the files adn ran update_versions?
19:54 <nickuwo> yea
19:54 <mweltin> or jsut updated the signature
19:54 <nickuwo> new dir, etc.
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19:57 <mweltin> well nickuwo I'm not sure whatelse to do.
19:57 <mweltin> that is strange
19:57 <nickuwo> I know... I don't get it.
19:58 <nickuwo> it worked fine with the worker example prog
19:58 <Romulus> thats the only reason why I'm using for my distro
19:58 <mweltin> what are the perms on the keys dir itself?
20:00 <nickuwo> drwxr-xr-x
20:00 <mweltin> and 744 inside?
20:00 <mweltin> or 644 inside
20:00 <nickuwo> I think so, chmod 644 filename right?
20:01 <mweltin> yeah
20:01 <nickuwo> hmm
20:01 <nickuwo> I think I'll send this one to the mailing list
20:01 <nickuwo> :)
20:02 <mweltin> are you making one workunit at a time?
20:02 <mweltin> are tehere a ton of WU's out there.
20:02 <nickuwo> there's always at least 10
20:03 <mweltin> its just a guess buy you many have problems with older workunits may have problems with
20:03 <nickuwo> I deleted all the old workunits before retrying this time...
20:03 <mweltin> cancle all old workunits and
20:03 <mweltin> ahh
20:09 <mweltin> sorry I wasn't more help
20:09 <nickuwo> it's all good, how's yer proj coming?
20:10 <nickuwo> wrapper is still lookin for job.xml as well
20:10 <nickuwo> hmpf
20:10 <mweltin> you named the file job.xml=job_1.5.xml ?
20:11 <nickuwo> yea
20:11 <nickuwo> in apps
20:11 <nickuwo> job.xml=job_5.50.xml
20:11 <mweltin> well apps/appname/appname_version_number ?
20:12 <nickuwo> yea
20:12 <nickuwo> its apps/ramsey/wrapper_5.5_windows_intelx86.exe/job.xml=job_5.50.xml
20:13 <nickuwo> 5.50 that is
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20:14 <nickuwo> I'm just executing wrapper in a command prompt in windows... does job_5.50.xml get passed as a command line?
20:14 <mweltin> my wrapper is named after the app name.
20:15 <mweltin> boinc deals with that so I'm not sure
20:15 <nickuwo> like /apps/ramsey/ramsey_5.50_windows_intelx86.exe/
20:15 <mweltin> that is how mine is named
20:15 <nickuwo> maybe ill try that
20:15 <mweltin> for example I have a tsp/apps/aco/aco_1.1_i686-pc-linux-gnu
20:15 <nickuwo> even though it's wrapped?
20:16 <mweltin> and the files in there are wrapper is aco_1.1_i686-pc-linux-gnu
20:16 <mweltin> and the real app is named aco=acoAlgo_1.1_i686-pc-linux-gnu
20:16 <nickuwo> hmm
20:16 <mweltin> and of course I have the job.xml=job_1.1.xml
20:16 <nickuwo> yea
20:16 <nickuwo> I'll try that
20:17 <mweltin> everythign worked in the example because it was supposed to be called wrapper, but I don't thing it should be called wrapper for the app.
20:17 <mweltin> I could be wrong, I'm very very new to the wrapper
20:18 <nickuwo> and in job.xml you have aco inside <application>
20:19 <mweltin> yes
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20:33 <nickuwo> no dice :(
20:34 <mweltin> you are kidding me.
20:35 <mweltin> same key error?
20:35 <nickuwo> total bummer
20:35 <nickuwo> idk
20:35 <nickuwo> maybe I should start over
20:36 <mweltin> I'd turn off the workgenerator for one thing
20:36 <nickuwo> tried that :)
20:36 <mweltin> just make them one at a time until its working
20:36 <nickuwo> [error] no close tag in scheduler reply ...
20:37 <nickuwo> man, BOINC is hard
20:37 <mweltin> its picky
20:37 <nickuwo> true dat
20:38 <mweltin> I never got that error.
20:38 <mweltin> If Pov were here he would have you straight in 5 imin.
20:38 <mweltin> few understand boinc as well as he
20:38 <nickuwo> :)
20:38 <nickuwo> hopefully the mailing list will have somthing to say about it
20:39 <mweltin> yes they are good, and David Anderson reads that as well.
20:41 <mweltin> ok I have to go now.
20:41 <nickuwo> have a good one
20:41 <nickuwo> thanks :)
20:41 <mweltin> sorry nickuwo that I couldn't help you through it all.
20:41 <nickuwo> don't worrk bout it
20:41 <mweltin> maybe next time I'll get lucky
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20:41 <Tank_Master> mw!
20:41 <Tank_Master> crap
20:41 <Tank_Master> talk about just missing someone
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20:45 <tricaric> hi
20:45 <tricaric> I have a teams question
20:46 <tricaric> on orbit, many complain about new teams registered by somebody that is not the original founder...
20:46 <tricaric> how can I fix that, to give priority to BOINC-wide teams?
20:55 <Tank_Master> the BOINC-Wide list should be imported when the project started. Doing so now may cause duplicate team names
20:56 <Tank_Master> As for the team caption, eith edit it manually, or have them wait the 2 months to the transfer to happen on its own. If the person who is the founder and shouldnt be, and they block the transfer, then manual intervantion is nessicary on the part of the project admin(s)
20:57 <Tank_Master> This is my current understanding on how this works
20:57 <Tank_Master> but someone else may have a better understanding on the backend and give you other solutions
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21:17 <tricaric> OK, so I'll just need to wait and it will transfer, if the users don't interfere, right?
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22:31 <MTughan> Awesome... My BOINC Manager and corresponding BOINC framework are now under GPL.
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23:37 <MTughan> 'lo PovIpod
23:37 <PovIpod> hey
23:37 <MTughan> Not sure what colloQ does with that...
23:38 <PovIpod> did you hear about apple's announcement today?
23:38 <MTughan> What do you think of using SF.net to host my BOINC Manager?
23:38 <MTughan> Nope...
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23:38 <PovIpod> official sdk
23:38 <MTughan> For the iPhone/iPod touch?
23:39 <PovIpod> yep
23:39 <PovIpod> developer.apple.com/iphone
23:39 <MTughan> I know the URL...
23:44 <MTughan> And I can now download the SDK... Seems it just plugs right into Xcode.
23:45 <PovIpod> yup
23:45 <MTughan> Must include a compiler.
23:45 <PovIpod> and an iPhone emulator too
23:46 <Romulus> I don't know how to find..
23:46 <MTughan> Nice.
23:47 <PovIpod> you should really watch the announcement video :)
23:50 <MTughan> Not right now.
23:52 <MTughan> Oh, and the beta Einstein app is a huge increase on my Mac. Usual was ~30h/WU. Last I checked, it was on track for 8.5h. :D
23:59 <PovIpod> vid 4 download