IRC logs of #boinc for Friday, 2008-03-07

00:01 <PovIpod> and your link asks me to login

00:01 <MTughan> Oh... I'll post what's there.

00:01 <MTughan> &xkcd

00:01 <Romulus> http://www.xkcd.com/

00:01 <MTughan> &cad

00:01 <Romulus> http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php

00:02 <PovIpod> tell me if comics updated already

00:02 <MTughan> They are.

00:02 <PovIpod> so I don't waste time loading them from here

00:02 <PovIpod> k

00:05 <PovIpod> lol@cad

00:06 <PovIpod> sleep >

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00:07 <MTughan> And I was just about to post what I had...

00:07 <MTughan> Well, for the rest of you: http://michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org/objc.html

00:07 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1e3q> (at michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org)

00:08 <MTughan> How to mix Objective-C and C++. :D

00:33 <MTughan> Off to bed...

00:47 <efc> &cad

00:47 <Romulus> http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php

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00:55 <nickuwo> welp, I even remade a project from scratch and I still get signature errors...

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01:10 <Wabbit98> hello

01:15 <efc> moo

01:16 <Wabbit98> did you just moo me?

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01:16 <efc> Yes

01:16 <mirvk2> o/

01:17 <mirvk2> wheres read_file_malloc defined

01:20 <mirvk2> fools!

01:20 <mirvk2> your silence cannot overcome my uberness

01:20 <mirvk2> :-)

01:21 <Wabbit98> I am ultra-uber

01:21 <Romulus> As for the help here though :-)

01:22 <Wabbit98> sorry I am no good at help

01:22 <mirvk2> well every time i come here

01:22 <mirvk2> i find the answer myself shortly after asking

01:22 <mirvk2> but only after i come here

01:22 <Wabbit98> isn't that good?

01:23 <mirvk2> must be the ultra-uberness radiating from Wabbit

01:23 <mirvk2> well yes

01:23 <mirvk2> no answer is worse than an answer you actually had to work for

01:23 <mirvk2> but only just

01:23 <Wabbit98> I need a haircut

01:24 <Wabbit98> what is popular in the hair fashion this year?

01:24 <mirvk2> where u look like u need a haircut

01:24 <mirvk2> thats a good look

01:25 <mirvk2> not sure what its called though

01:25 <Wabbit98> like my hair is constantly messy?

01:25 <mirvk2> well messy != need haircut

01:26 <mirvk2> a does not necessarily imply b

01:26 <Wabbit98> wait a moment we are nerds, what do we know about stylish haircuts

01:26 <mirvk2> wait a momen

01:26 <mirvk2> t

01:26 <mirvk2> we are nerds?

01:26 <mirvk2> omgosh

01:26 <mirvk2> i am mirvk2

01:26 <Wabbit98> I can see that

01:27 <Wabbit98> what is your hair like?

01:27 <mirvk2> i am he who is the bridge twixt nerds and kewls

01:27 <mirvk2> do u fear meh and my ubernesh?

01:27 <Wabbit98> you are as cool as last years fruit cake

01:27 <mirvk2> dont know much about fruitcakes

01:27 <mirvk2> theyre pretty cool evidently

01:28 <mirvk2> i dont answer personal questions...about my ... hair

01:28 <mirvk2> buy me dinner first

01:28 <Wabbit98> how cool can you be if you are on IRC right now

01:28 <mirvk2> with a blindfold on

01:28 <mirvk2> then ask me

01:28 <Wabbit98> your to expensive, how about coffee?

01:28 <mirvk2> sure..

01:29 <Wabbit98> you will never understand me

01:29 * Wabbit98 runs away crying

01:29 <mirvk2> lol

01:29 <Wabbit98> right, enough of that

01:29 <Wabbit98> I do need a haircut, my hair is starting to feel like a bush

01:29 <mirvk2> coincidently

01:29 <mirvk2> i do too

01:29 <mirvk2> which is weird

01:29 <Tank_Master> lol

01:29 <mirvk2> its like god is telling me

01:29 <Romulus> An app like cpuz will tell you all

01:29 <mirvk2> hey mirvk2, you douche, get that fucking badger on ur head trimmed down

01:29 <wdsmia> asks mirvk2 to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

01:29 <mirvk2> oh

01:30 <Wabbit98> hehehe

01:30 <Wabbit98> TM what is your hair like?

01:30 <mirvk2> im watching my language

01:30 <Tank_Master> uh-oh

01:30 <Tank_Master> you woke the admin

01:30 <mirvk2> gah!

01:30 <Wabbit98> run away

01:30 <mirvk2> im pwned

01:30 <Tank_Master> just cut it last week

01:30 <efc> now we have to give him another injection

01:30 <Tank_Master> its 5/8" long

01:30 <Wabbit98> TM that answers nothing

01:30 <Wabbit98> buzz cut?

01:30 <Wabbit98> that is ugly

01:30 <Tank_Master> no maintince

01:30 <Tank_Master> buzz it shorter

01:30 <mirvk2> so everyone's shorting the dollar yes?

01:31 <mirvk2> globalist takeover?

01:31 <Wabbit98> I short my pants

01:31 <mirvk2> fascist coup?

01:31 <Wabbit98> I bow to the throne of Mao

01:31 <Tank_Master> just the demicrats

01:31 <mirvk2> what does Mao believe

01:31 <mirvk2> ill bet u dont know

01:31 <mirvk2> caught in a lie?

01:31 <Tank_Master> they know just how to screw us and make us think we are happy

01:32 <Wabbit98> people work on the farm

01:32 <Wabbit98> no education

01:32 <mirvk2> sounds crappy

01:32 <Wabbit98> honor your master

01:32 <Tank_Master> BOINC is my master

01:32 <mirvk2> TM the republicans are screwing us

01:32 <Tank_Master> ha!

01:32 <mirvk2> in case uve been in a coma for the last 7 years

01:32 <Tank_Master> re[publicans arent in power

01:32 * mirvk2 wonders what TM is smoking

01:33 <Tank_Master> who controles the houses?

01:33 <Wabbit98> TM lives in Oregon, he might be high

01:33 <mirvk2> how do u control a house

01:33 <Tank_Master> who makes the policies?

01:33 <mirvk2> sit! sleep! rollover

01:33 <Tank_Master> by having more seats than the other side

01:33 <mirvk2> TM only gets one channel at his house - fox news

01:34 <Tank_Master> I dont watch the news

01:34 <Tank_Master> no point

01:34 * mirvk2 imagines clockwork orange

01:34 <Tank_Master> you never get the compleat story

01:34 <Wabbit98> as I said TM might be high

01:34 <mirvk2> you prefer to pull ur theories out of ur butt?

01:34 <mirvk2> hows that working for you?

01:34 * Tank_Master thinks you 2 think the war is going badly

01:35 <mirvk2> full points...

01:35 <mirvk2> from the POV of the US citizen

01:35 <mirvk2> its going badly

01:35 <mirvk2> from the POV of soldiers too

01:35 <Tank_Master> all I know is that inder clinton, we have the internet buble, under bush, the market keeps going up

01:35 <mirvk2> the market adjusted for inflation is crap ATM

01:35 <Tank_Master> have you talked to the soldiers?

01:35 <mirvk2> have you?

01:36 <Tank_Master> yes

01:36 <mirvk2> i have too

01:36 <mirvk2> so pah

01:36 <Tank_Master> and they tell you its bad

01:36 <Tank_Master> ?

01:36 <mirvk2> well the ones ive talked to no

01:36 <Tank_Master> or do you just believe the bull the media sais?

01:36 <Tank_Master> see?

01:36 <mirvk2> they say they do nothing and get paid a lot

01:36 <Tank_Master> its not going bad over there

01:36 <mirvk2> the ones who have families

01:36 <Tank_Master> do some die? yes

01:36 <mirvk2> it sucks for them

01:37 <Tank_Master> but more poeple die here in car accidents

01:37 <mirvk2> 15month tours of duty

01:37 <mirvk2> etc etc

01:37 <Romulus> is running these BOINC projects from a united federation of planets to what would cause a folder to not respect group permissions I am a mutt :D

01:37 * Tank_Master slaps Romulus around a bit with a large trout

01:38 <efc> &last e38

01:38 <Romulus> efc: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit (1 more message)

01:38 <Tank_Master> whats wrong with getting payed for babysittin another country?

01:38 <Tank_Master> EFC!

01:38 <Tank_Master> welcome

01:38 <mirvk2> TM a lot

01:38 <efc> moo

01:38 <mirvk2> considering they dont want us there

01:38 <mirvk2> and we shouldnt be there

01:38 <mirvk2> to begin with

01:38 <Tank_Master> who is "they"? the ones who lost power? of corse they dont

01:38 <mirvk2> the citizenry of iraq

01:38 <Tank_Master> but the gernal person wants us there

01:39 <mirvk2> why?

01:39 <mirvk2> no they dont

01:39 <Tank_Master> with us there, ther is no civel war

01:39 <Tank_Master> they know that

01:39 <mirvk2> theres fighting all the time there

01:39 <Tank_Master> and with us there, they have school, power, clean watter..

01:39 <mirvk2> they had that before

01:39 <Tank_Master> in a few area, yes

01:39 <Tank_Master> no tot he extent they do now

01:39 <mirvk2> a lot of areas dont have those things

01:40 <Tank_Master> there over 36 new school in inraq now

01:40 <mirvk2> you make it sound like we are doign a good job

01:40 <Tank_Master> we are doing a much better job than you think

01:40 <mirvk2> 36? thats what...1 for every 10000 ppl we have killed

01:40 <Tank_Master> and then the media sais

01:40 <mirvk2> lol

01:40 <Tank_Master> we ahevnt killed that meny

01:41 <mirvk2> even the bush administration admits we have killed something like 250k

01:41 <Tank_Master> havent heard that

01:41 <mirvk2> maybe you should watch the news

01:41 <mirvk2> after all

01:41 <mirvk2> they attacked the figure of 600k from a 'liberal' group

01:42 <mirvk2> and said it was too high

01:42 <mirvk2> we had only killed half that many

01:42 <mirvk2> as if that excused anythign

01:42 <efc> Is that supposed to be civilians?

01:42 <Tank_Master> and to think the meda makes a big deal out of the what, 250 of our guys killed?

01:42 <mirvk2> yes

01:43 <Tank_Master> most of those killed attacked us

01:43 <mirvk2> 1 of our guys is too much

01:43 <mirvk2> for a war with no real reason

01:43 <Tank_Master> its not like we randomly go around killing people

01:43 <Tank_Master> the reason is to stop future attacks

01:43 <mirvk2> they never attacked us

01:43 <Tank_Master> stabelize the reagon that needs to be stabelized

01:43 <mirvk2> iraq had nothign to do w 911

01:43 <mirvk2> it was stable enough

01:44 <mirvk2> afghanistan maybe not

01:44 <Tank_Master> those who were in powere before 911 did contrubute to it

01:44 <mirvk2> its less stable now than when came to 'help'

01:44 <mirvk2> hussein had nothing to do w 9/11

01:44 <Tank_Master> as the leading power in the world, is it not out role to help the rest of the world?

01:44 <mirvk2> afghanistan for al qaeda

01:44 <Romulus> I now have a link to Server Status to the same actually.

01:44 <Tank_Master> hussen worked with alkida

01:44 <mirvk2> to an extent thats right TM

01:45 <mirvk2> but we have gone way way way beyond our duty or right

01:45 <Tank_Master> to some, perhaps

01:45 <mirvk2> this war will cost 2-3 trillion

01:45 <Tank_Master> so?

01:45 <Romulus> I guess so is iStat, Tank_Master

01:45 <Tank_Master> &stfu

01:45 * Romulus shuts up (fingers crossed)

01:45 <mirvk2> do you realize w 3 trillion the entire country could stop using fossil fuels?

01:46 <Tank_Master> you relize its not as big an issue is they make it out to be?

01:46 <mirvk2> completely remove our dependence on fossil fuels...

01:46 <Tank_Master> and become dependant on what?

01:46 <Tank_Master> corn?

01:46 <mirvk2> solar, wind, geothermal

01:46 <Tank_Master> we already seen the affect that has on the economy

01:46 <mirvk2> completely clean energy

01:46 <mirvk2> its good for it

01:46 <Tank_Master> all of which have their own set of problems

01:46 <Tank_Master> nothing is clean

01:47 <mirvk2> wind is clean

01:47 <mirvk2> solar is clean

01:47 <mirvk2> and its a 0 sum game

01:47 <Tank_Master> windmills cost a LOT more to maintain, cant always operate...

01:47 <mirvk2> logistics doenst matter

01:47 <Tank_Master> solar absorbs light

01:47 <mirvk2> 3 trillion is enough to stop using fossil fuels

01:47 <Tank_Master> this it downt goback into the atmosphere

01:48 <mirvk2> and what do fossil fuels do?

01:48 <Tank_Master> if you put it all into that one "problem", mayby

01:48 <Tank_Master> its a 2fols thing

01:49 <Tank_Master> the particulant matter gets into the air, blocks the sunlich, reflecting it back into space, so it dimms the plant

01:49 <mirvk2> 2fols?

01:49 <Tank_Master> cooling it

01:49 <efc> I think in theory you could 3 tril at the problem and solve it, but not if the govt was running it

01:49 <Tank_Master> well said, efc ;)

01:49 <mirvk2> 700m get you a solar energy generator that can power 50k homes

01:49 <mirvk2> do the math

01:49 <Tank_Master> 2fold*

01:50 <mirvk2> and u realize that the economies of scale means that 700m comes down

01:50 <Tank_Master> you want to clear out achers of land to put up ineffecent power collectos?

01:50 <mirvk2> yes

01:50 <Tank_Master> newclear is the way to go for power generation

01:50 <mirvk2> absolutely

01:50 <efc> I'm partial to solar-chemical processes myself, but nobody else seems to be

01:50 <Tank_Master> it gets you a lot of power, and doesnt requier clearing out as much land

01:50 <Tank_Master> it also can perate in no matter the weather

01:51 <mirvk2> solar only requires upkeep + initial investment

01:51 <mirvk2> meaning

01:51 <Tank_Master> ony realistic place to put solar pannels is on roofs or sides of buildings

01:51 <efc> the solar tower projects are more interesting than the photovoltaics

01:52 <Tank_Master> both have a long way to go

01:52 <efc> convection towers and concentrators

01:52 <mirvk2> im talking about he solar tower

01:52 <mirvk2> where heat powers a series of fans

01:52 <Tank_Master> the one being bult in australia?

01:52 <mirvk2> yes

01:52 <mirvk2> that 700m USD

01:52 <mirvk2> 50k houses

01:52 <Tank_Master> yeah, that would be interesting, but it still takes a lot os ground space

01:53 <mirvk2> a small concession considering the long term benefits

01:53 <Tank_Master> we need to get fusion power working

01:53 <Tank_Master> THEN we can have a lot of power from a few generation points

01:53 <efc> We have a ton of desert in the US, which would be well used towards things like that. Good insolation in NM.

01:53 <mirvk2> you have to pay for the nuclear fuel

01:53 <mirvk2> you dont have the pay for sun

01:53 <Tank_Master> not fusion

01:53 <Tank_Master> it runs on water

01:54 <mirvk2> theoretically you can run a city off a tank of water sure

01:54 <Tank_Master> combine the 2 hydrogen attams and produce healem

01:54 <efc> usually they use deuterium, slightly harder

01:54 <Tank_Master> IF they ever get it to work, that would be a new era

01:54 <Tank_Master> depends ont he group

01:54 <Tank_Master> theres a lot of groups out there, seems like each uses a different atom

01:55 <mirvk2> if you took a giant sphere of water and split a hydrogen atom

01:55 <efc> I hate to say it but an energy bottleneck may not be such a bad thing..

01:55 <mirvk2> the release of energy would be absorbed by water

01:55 <mirvk2> and you could use the heat to turn a turbine

01:55 <mirvk2> turning an atom into energy is fission right?

01:56 <Tank_Master> the energy comes from 2 atoms combining, releasing... some partical

01:56 <Tank_Master> and heat

01:56 <mirvk2> thats fusion

01:56 <Tank_Master> the heat boils watter into steam

01:56 <mirvk2> but fission is breaking apart an atom

01:56 <Tank_Master> both generat heat

01:56 <mirvk2> right

01:56 <mirvk2> but fusion requires insane pressure

01:56 <Tank_Master> fission is what we have now

01:56 <mirvk2> ie sun

01:57 <Tank_Master> splitting the attom

01:57 <Tank_Master> yes, the sun is fusion

01:57 <mirvk2> from what i understand (little) nuclear plants dont work off fission

01:57 <Tank_Master> and yes, we havent been able to get it to work here

01:57 <mirvk2> some other less impressive mode is actually happening

01:57 <Tank_Master> the fission process produces heat

01:57 <mirvk2> all youd need for free energy

01:57 <Tank_Master> the heat is used to boil watter

01:58 <Tank_Master> its basicly a large steam engin

01:58 <mirvk2> is to be able to split water atoms at a predictable frequency

01:58 <mirvk2> can we do that?

01:58 <Tank_Master> they cool it to maintain the reaction

01:58 <Tank_Master> yes

01:58 <Tank_Master> not water attoms though

01:58 <mirvk2> just atoms?

01:58 <Tank_Master> uranium

01:59 <Tank_Master> when a uranium attom spluts, it releases protons that hit another attome, causing it to split

01:59 <mirvk2> why not water

01:59 <Tank_Master> so on and so on

01:59 <Romulus> KM went to bed.

01:59 <Tank_Master> to stable

01:59 <Tank_Master> that great, rommie

02:00 <mirvk2> what do we need more of to split water?

02:00 <Tank_Master> watter is 2 attoms

02:00 <mirvk2> yes i know

02:01 <Tank_Master> not sure right off why they dont split oxygen

02:01 <Tank_Master> healium cant be split

02:01 <mirvk2> y not

02:01 <Tank_Master> ony one proton

02:01 <Tank_Master> it would be nothing

02:02 <mirvk2> right so actually....hmm

02:02 <mirvk2> when they split the heavier elements

02:02 <mirvk2> theres no actual loss of protons?

02:02 <Tank_Master> might be easier to controle

02:02 <mirvk2> just an exponential release of small bits of energy from each exiting proton?

02:02 <Tank_Master> the spliting releases protons

02:03 <Tank_Master> those protons fly around untill they hit another unranum atom

02:03 <mirvk2> but the energy is not a proton turning into energy

02:03 <Tank_Master> the addional proton causes it to split

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02:03 <Tank_Master> so it releases protons

02:03 <mirvk2> but the actual energy?

02:03 <Tank_Master> so on and so on

02:03 <Tank_Master> heat

02:03 <mirvk2> from?

02:03 <Tank_Master> releases heat energy

02:04 <Tank_Master> the fission

02:04 <mirvk2> what part of the fission

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02:04 <Tank_Master> heat is a type of radation

02:04 <Tank_Master> I dont understand well where the heat in of itsself comes from

02:04 <mirvk2> k

02:05 <Soul_keeper> it's just energy i guess

02:05 <Tank_Master> yes

02:05 <mirvk2> see if we could turn an atom to pure energy

02:05 <mirvk2> then we'd be all set

02:05 <Tank_Master> you can do that

02:05 <mirvk2> how

02:05 <Tank_Master> and in ewxtreamly small scale its been done

02:05 <mirvk2> how

02:05 <Tank_Master> but you need anti-matter

02:05 <Soul_keeper> yeah nuclear energy isn't appearing to be that savior for our oil dependence'

02:05 <mirvk2> sounds star-trekkian

02:06 <Tank_Master> where do you think ST got the idea from

02:06 <Tank_Master> ?

02:06 <Romulus> what are your ultimate goals with BOINC?

02:06 <Tank_Master> its tghe highest form of energy knowen

02:06 <mirvk2> nuclear fuel costs $

02:06 <mirvk2> solar !$

02:07 <mirvk2> my ultimate goals w boinc are to make a statistical processor the likes of which

02:07 <mirvk2> the world has never seen

02:07 <Soul_keeper> they say if we covered 1/4th of nevada with solar panels it could power all of north america

02:07 <Tank_Master> if I rememerb right, somehting like 300 points of matter and antimatter can power a city

02:07 <Tank_Master> ive heard that

02:07 <mirvk2> Soul yeah i was telling Tank he needs to get on the clean energy bandwagon

02:07 <Tank_Master> Ive also hears it would take 1/3 the land of the US

02:08 <mirvk2> clearly thats not right TM

02:08 <Soul_keeper> i handfull of sand can power the world for like a year or something crazy if they could unleash all it's stored energy

02:08 <Tank_Master> SK!

02:08 <Tank_Master> evenin

02:08 <Soul_keeper> :)

02:09 <mirvk2> all right im off to run on my mouse wheel

02:09 <mirvk2> o/

02:09 <Tank_Master> gn

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02:09 <Soul_keeper> hmmm pipe bomb went off in time square

02:09 <Tank_Master> what an interesting person

02:09 <Tank_Master> I heard that

02:10 <Tank_Master> infrount of the military recrutement center?

02:10 <Soul_keeper> yeah

02:10 <Tank_Master> sad

02:10 <Soul_keeper> some disgruntled liberal probably

02:10 <Tank_Master> yep

02:11 <Tank_Master> someone who believes the media may to much

02:11 <Tank_Master> ;)

02:12 <Soul_keeper> yeah

02:12 <Soul_keeper> welp i gotta go to sleep now

02:13 <Tank_Master> gn

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02:30 <Tank_Master> http://www.famousquotesandjokes.com/jokes/2/14/10/

02:30 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1e5j> (at www.famousquotesandjokes.com)

02:37 <efc> i'm glad i skipped that discussion

02:40 <Tank_Master> lol

02:41 <Tank_Master> no kiddin

02:41 <Tank_Master> I whish I had

02:41 <Tank_Master> frikin stuckup

02:41 <Tank_Master> doesnt he know Im the only stuckup here?

02:43 <efc> Thats why the government needs to regulate and register stuckups

02:45 <efc> please get in line for your barcode

02:46 <Tank_Master> lol

02:54 <efc> nasty storms in the north?

02:54 <efc> &weather 31088

02:54 <Romulus> efc: The current temperature in Warner Robins, Georgia is 59.0°F (1:55 AM EST on March 07, 2008). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 48.2°F. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling).

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04:29 <tricaric> &weather 85719

04:29 <Romulus> tricaric: The current temperature in Speedway & Euclid, Tucson, Arizona is 43.7°F (2:20 AM MST on March 07, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 14.0°F. Windchill: 44.6°F. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Steady).  Freeze warning in effect until 9 am MST this morning...

04:29 <tricaric> cool

04:30 <CoderForLife> morning

04:30 <CoderForLife> I see weather is still broken in Rommie

04:32 <CoderForLife> &seen KathrynM

04:32 <Romulus> CoderForLife: KathrynM was last seen in #boinc 5 hours, 58 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

04:36 <CoderForLife> hungry - breakfast - brb

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05:40 <CoderForLife> snow prediction is 5 to 10 inches today, and 5 to 10 more inches overnight

05:40 <CoderForLife> off to the grocery store, then back to w@#% at home today

05:43 * KathrynM is back (gone 07:10:29)

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06:36 <clusty> how is you crunchers doing?

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07:02 <bryanUC> &weather 43016

07:02 <Romulus> bryanUC: The current temperature in Dublin, Ohio is 31.5°F (7:00 AM EST on March 07, 2008). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Windchill: 32.0°F. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020.5 hPa (Rising).  Winter Storm Warning in effect from noon today to 4 PM EST Saturday...

07:02 <bryanUC> &more

07:02 <Romulus> bryanUC: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more.  To do so, call this command with that person's nick.

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07:04 <CoderOnTheCouch> &seen KathrynM

07:04 <Romulus> CoderOnTheCouch: KathrynM was last seen in #boinc 1 hour, 20 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: * KathrynM is back (gone 07:10:29)

07:04 <KathrynM> yoy rang?

07:04 <KathrynM> you

07:05 <CoderOnTheCouch> on your cron task

07:05 <KathrynM> ya

07:05 <CoderOnTheCouch> did you get an answer?

07:05 <KathrynM> ya

07:05 <CoderOnTheCouch> oh ok

07:05 <CoderOnTheCouch> nm

07:05 <KathrynM> gary's going to modify the script for me

07:05 <CoderOnTheCouch> um - basically no need

07:05 <KathrynM> oh

07:06 <CoderOnTheCouch> just create a "response file"

07:06 <KathrynM> how?

07:06 <Romulus> Somebody said how is breakfast, KathrynM

07:06 <CoderOnTheCouch> and redirect it in

07:06 <KathrynM> &stfu

07:06 * Romulus shuts up (fingers crossed)

07:06 <CoderOnTheCouch> cron.sh < responses.txt

07:06 <KathrynM> hmmmm

07:06 <CoderOnTheCouch> or sumthin like that

07:06 <KathrynM> my brain is fried atm, so I'll think about it tomorrow.

07:07 <CoderOnTheCouch> you should be able to test it by creating a file with each of the answers on a separate line

07:07 <CoderOnTheCouch> and running the script with the file as input

07:07 * KathrynM goes to try it out

07:07 <KathrynM> bbiab

07:07 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

07:07 <CoderOnTheCouch> start simple

07:08 * CoderOnTheCouch goes to change from grocery-store clothes into Coding clothes

07:14 * CoderOnTheCouch returns

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07:16 <tricaric> hi

07:17 <KathrynM> doesn't seem to be working.

07:17 <tricaric> how can I configure a WU so that each result must go to a different host?

07:17 <KathrynM> i'll futz a bit more later

07:17 <tricaric> I'm in the situation where all results from a WU go to 1 host only

07:17 <tricaric> that's not good

07:17 <KathrynM> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/ProjectOptions

07:18 <Romulus> Title: ProjectOptions - BOINC - Trac (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

07:18 <tricaric> thanks!

07:18 <KathrynM> np.  I don't know much, but this one I did ;)

07:20 <tricaric> this should do it, right?

07:20 <tricaric> <one_result_per_user_per_wu>

07:20 <tricaric>       1

07:20 <tricaric>     </one_result_per_user_per_wu>

07:21 <CoderOnTheCouch> give me your pastebin link again, KathrynM

07:21 <KathrynM> http://pastebin.ca/931132

07:21 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Anonymous - post number 931132 (at pastebin.ca)

07:22 <KathrynM> tricaric, scroll down a bit to one_result_per_host_per_wu

07:23 <tricaric> ah, ok

07:23 * CoderOnTheCouch balances looking at #boinc with w@#%ing at home for The Man

07:24 <KathrynM> ah...  walking the tightrope

07:30 <tricaric> another sweet little problem: the sample_assimilator is stuck, it just dies with this log message:

07:31 <tricaric> 2008-03-07 05:30:01.5686 [normal  ] Starting

07:31 <tricaric> 2008-03-07 05:30:01.5732 [debug   ] [wu_1204796634_53] assimilating boinc WU 340; state=1

07:31 <tricaric> cp: cannot stat `/home/boinc/projects/oah/upload/232/wu_1204796634_53_5_0': No such file or directory

07:31 <tricaric> 2008-03-07 05:30:01.5898 [CRITICAL] [wu_1204796634_53] handler returned error 256; exiting

07:31 <KathrynM> kick it?

07:31 <KathrynM> :)

07:31 * KathrynM is back (gone 00:23:50)

07:31 <tricaric> I've tried removing the wu 340 from the ops interface, but that didn't help

07:31 <KathrynM> I'm just an end user.

07:31 <tricaric> it still dies

07:31 <KathrynM> Sorry

07:31 <KathrynM> clusty, you around?

07:32 <clusty> KathrynM, yeah

07:32 <KathrynM> can you help tricaric?

07:32 <KathrynM> my backend debugging skills are limited to searching trac :)

07:32 <clusty> help with what?

07:32 <clusty> ohh

07:32 <clusty> lemme look

07:33 <tricaric> thanks! look from "another sweet..."

07:33 <clusty> so to rephrase:

07:33 <clusty> you want to create a WU

07:34 <clusty> and want to have each host grind it once

07:34 <KathrynM> next problem  clusty

07:34 <clusty> and want N results to validate?

07:34 <clusty> which is that?

07:35 <tricaric> look from "another sweet..." just a few lines above

07:35 <clusty> got it

07:35 <clusty> lemme think

07:35 <clusty> did the client complain by any chance?

07:36 <clusty> that it can't upload

07:36 <tricaric> I don't know.. want me to check? how?

07:36 <clusty> you enable advanced view

07:36 <clusty> and check messages

07:36 <tricaric> I'm not really concerned about the WU.. I just want the assimilator to start working again

07:36 <clusty> if it succesfully upladed task

07:37 <clusty> well you might not have file there

07:37 <tricaric> I'm on the server

07:37 <clusty> cause your client cant upload file

07:37 <tricaric> I don't have any client here

07:37 <clusty> pernmissions issue

07:37 <clusty> gimme your server address

07:37 <clusty> i8 will attach

07:37 <tricaric> http://orbit.psi.edu/oah

07:37 <Romulus> Title: orbit@home (at orbit.psi.edu)

07:39 <clusty> make me a workunit

07:39 <clusty> linux

07:39 <tricaric> there should be about 5 waiting

07:39 <clusty> linux?

07:39 <Romulus> Rumor has it linux is case sensitve, Kathryn and kathryn are as different as bob and kathRyn, clusty

07:41 <tricaric> yep, the 'rng' application is available for linux and XP

07:41 <KathrynM> yeah yeah yeah rommie.  i've figured that out

07:41 <tricaric> deadline 1 day, maybe it's too long?

07:41 <clusty> no

07:41 <clusty> its fine

07:41 <clusty> i suspended all others

07:41 <KathrynM> the blink and you miss em work units?

07:41 <clusty> nope

07:41 <clusty> no work

07:41 <Romulus> or is extreamly slow

07:42 <clusty> cancel those useless workunits and make new ones

07:42 <clusty> and restart server

07:42 <tricaric> ok, wait

07:42 <clusty> every now and then it bugs

07:42 <clusty> abd gets stuck

07:44 <tricaric> ok, lots more now

07:45 <clusty> nope

07:46 <KathrynM> nope

07:46 <clusty> i am running both win and linux

07:46 <clusty> no work

07:46 <KathrynM> Linux for me

07:46 <KathrynM> no work

07:46 <KathrynM> jinx clusty

07:46 <clusty> :D

07:46 <tricaric> hmm...

07:46 <clusty> is ti fresh server?

07:46 <clusty> or stopped working?

07:47 <tricaric> all I did is adding <one_result_per_user_per_wu/> to config.xml

07:48 <KathrynM> per user or per host?

07:48 <Romulus> gives pirates an evil look

07:48 * KathrynM give Romulus an evil look

07:48 <tricaric> per user

07:49 <clusty> did it work before this change?

07:50 <tricaric> yes, I believe it did...

07:50 <clusty> can you remove and restart server?

07:50 <tricaric> sure, let me see..

07:50 <clusty> since we aint getting WUs its buggered

07:51 <tricaric> removed

07:52 <tricaric> and done bin/stop ; bin/start

07:52 <clusty> rite

07:52 <tricaric> doesn't look better

07:52 <clusty> works

07:53 <KathrynM> none for me

07:53 <clusty> i was more hungry

07:53 <clusty> :D

07:53 <clusty> i clicked no more tasks

07:53 <KathrynM> so you're the one who stole them all

07:54 <tricaric> feeding more with make_work

07:54 <KathrynM> should i keep hitting update?

07:54 <clusty> yes

07:55 <KathrynM> tail -f is a great thing :)

07:55 <KathrynM> nope.  nothing for me

07:55 <KathrynM> :(

07:55 <KathrynM> 32 bit Linux

07:56 <tricaric> 200+ results waiting to be sent out now

07:56 <clusty> so this was the problem

07:56 <clusty> that line screws up the deal

07:56 <clusty> also:

07:56 <clusty> why don't you use min_quorum

07:56 <clusty> and target_n_results fields?

07:56 <KathrynM> still nuttin'

07:57 <clusty> KathrynM, did you pause the others?

07:57 <tricaric> I do:     <min_quorum>3</min_quorum>

07:57 <tricaric>     <target_nresults>5</target_nresults>

07:57 <clusty> i mean suspend

07:57 <KathrynM> what others?

07:57 <clusty> so whats the need for one result/user?

07:58 <clusty> with this you get 5 different ppl computing the task

07:58 <Romulus> not at the same time

07:58 <clusty> and when you get 3 it will try to validate

07:58 <tricaric> yes, but without 1 result/user constraint, it was sending all results to 1 user

07:59 <clusty> well true

07:59 <clusty> but only once/machine

07:59 <KathrynM> w

07:59 <clusty> so who cares if same user is on 20 machines?

07:59 <KathrynM> crud...  stupid guinea pig crawling on the keyboard

07:59 <clusty> KathrynM, you have a piggie?

08:00 <KathrynM> yeah

08:00 <KathrynM> tricaric,  one_result_per_host_per_wu would probably work better

08:00 <clusty> its a bit more logical

08:00 <KathrynM> user = person, host = computer

08:00 <tricaric> I can try that one, and see if it doesn't kill the server

08:00 <tricaric> let's see...

08:00 <clusty> did the validator work now?

08:01 <clusty> this last batch validated?

08:01 <clusty> i got 0 credit

08:01 <clusty> so guess not

08:02 <tricaric> you get something like 0.001

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08:04 <clusty> so it validated?

08:05 <tricaric> all looks good... maybe  one_result_per_host_per_wu is not as destructive as the user version

08:06 <clusty> well lets see

08:06 <clusty> i am not getting tasks

08:06 <clusty> btw

08:06 <clusty> what sort of science are you doing?

08:06 <clusty> n body simulation?

08:07 <tricaric> the sample assimilator still dies:

08:07 <tricaric> 2008-03-07 06:05:02.0981 [normal  ] Starting

08:07 <tricaric> 2008-03-07 06:05:02.1027 [debug   ] [wu_1204796634_53] assimilating boinc WU 340; state=1

08:07 <tricaric> cp: cannot stat `/home/boinc/projects/oah/upload/232/wu_1204796634_53_5_0': No such file or directory

08:07 <tricaric> 2008-03-07 06:05:02.1194 [CRITICAL] [wu_1204796634_53] handler returned error 256; exiting

08:07 <tricaric> yes, orbital dynamics of asteroids

08:07 <clusty> i am lost

08:07 <tricaric> http://orbit.psi.edu/?q=node/10

08:07 <Romulus> Title: Mission | orbit@home (at orbit.psi.edu)

08:07 <clusty> validator works without any WU trestriction

08:08 <clusty> and dies if you restrict host/user?

08:08 <tricaric> how can I force the assimilator to skip the faulty WU 340?

08:08 <clusty> you cancel 340

08:08 <tricaric> no no, validator is OK, assimilator dies

08:08 <tricaric> I tried.. from the ops interface, right?

08:08 <clusty> yes

08:08 <tricaric> let me try again

08:08 <clusty> then list existing WUs

08:09 <clusty> and you should see 340 is <red>CANCELED</red>

08:09 <clusty> :D

08:10 <tricaric> hmm... the "file delete" field says delete, but the "assimilate" filed says "ready to assimilate"...

08:10 <tricaric> and the assimilator still dies ..

08:11 <clusty> is it canceled?

08:11 <tricaric> the interface doesn't have a "canceled" field... how do I know?

08:11 <tricaric> wait, yes, it is

08:12 <tricaric> in the "error_mask" filed, says "Too many total results

08:12 <tricaric> WU cancelled"

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08:13 <clusty> great

08:13 <clusty> so its dead and berried

08:13 <clusty> ghhhhh

08:13 <clusty> i hate c++

08:13 <tricaric> but the assimilator still dies while trying to handle it

08:13 <clusty> it constantly tries to assimilate?

08:14 <clusty> does it print more log messages?

08:14 <clusty> or its the old one?

08:14 <tricaric> no, it just tryes once, and then dies

08:14 <tricaric> let me check again

08:15 <tricaric> here's the whole output:

08:15 <clusty> well not for 340. that one should not be mentioned from now on

08:15 <tricaric> http://pastebin.com/m462deb2f

08:15 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)

08:16 <clusty> ok. remove the logfile

08:16 <clusty> and restart server

08:16 <clusty> to see if error persists

08:16 <tricaric> ok

08:16 <clusty> log_$HOST

08:16 <clusty> kill all contents

08:17 <tricaric> wiped out

08:17 <tricaric> starting again

08:17 <tricaric> hmm... same error as b4

08:18 <clusty> no idea whats wrong

08:18 <tricaric> should I go by hand in the db and remove somthing?

08:18 <clusty> try making a touch /home/boinc/projects/oah/upload/232/wu_1204796634_53_5_0

08:18 <clusty> :D

08:18 <clusty> so its happy

08:18 <tricaric> hehe, ok, let me try..

08:18 <clusty> to get over it

08:18 <clusty> :D

08:19 <clusty> if its a one time deal

08:21 <tricaric> hehe... it's a "few times" deal... touching a lot around :-D... I'm at WU 824 now, almost done I hope

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08:21 <tricaric> OK!! Assimilato up and running happily now!!!!!

08:22 <clusty> so this was it?

08:22 <clusty> create another WU

08:22 <tricaric> no idea... missing files

08:22 <clusty> to check that it goes through the pipe cleanly

08:22 <clusty> :D

08:23 <tricaric> thanks for all, especially for the touch idea!!

08:23 <clusty> i am the master of improv

08:23 <clusty> :D

08:23 <clusty> quick dirty and braindead solutions

08:24 <tricaric> my favourites! ;)

08:24 <KathrynM> those are the best kind :)

08:24 <clusty> weird thing:

08:24 <tricaric> way better than doing open-heart surgery in the db

08:24 <clusty> for such a mature proj, boinc has a lot of problems

08:25 <clusty> tricaric, well one way is to nuke dbase

08:25 <clusty> and regenrate it

08:25 <clusty> there are two scripts that make up all the thing

08:25 <tricaric> I did it a week ago, because of the migration to the new server, but users had to re-register..

08:28 <clusty> true

08:28 <clusty> is project in production?

08:28 <clusty> or still beta?

08:33 <clusty> tricaric, actually you can export databases quite easy, with phpmyadmin at least

08:35 <tricaric> it's in beta

08:36 <tricaric> we're just testing the system now, the main science app is under devel

08:44 <clusty> same like me

08:44 <clusty> i am done with server setup

08:44 <clusty> but science app is lagging

08:45 <tricaric> what project do you manage?

08:45 <clusty> its a corporate crunching thing

08:46 <clusty> preventive maintenance

08:46 <tricaric> is it public?

08:46 <clusty> the thing predicts the rise of all sorts of parameters of assembly line machinery such that the factory can be stopped to replace things before they actually break done

08:47 <clusty> the crunching will be public

08:47 <tricaric> interesting

08:47 <clusty> the results not really :D

08:47 <clusty> its a bit sucky working in corporate environments

08:47 <clusty> they are too secretive about their stuff

08:48 <Romulus> mweltin, think outputs you put it into the slave box, only control it from boinc.berkeley.edu website?

08:48 <clusty> not very GNU of them :D

08:48 <tricaric> ..stopped before they break... reminds me of HAL, kubrick's computer...

08:49 <clusty> dr. stragelove?

08:49 <clusty> :D

08:49 <tricaric> hehe..

08:50 <clusty> well its a very interesting methid applied to a boring problem

08:50 <clusty> :D

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09:10 <clusty> Aeternus, goth?

09:10 <Aeternus> what?

09:10 <clusty> your nick sounds goth :D

09:11 <clusty> you know, gothic people?

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13:27 <yoyo[RKN]> re

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13:28 <yoyo[RKN]> I will use boinc_copy to copy a file, but did not know how

13:30 <yoyo[RKN]> which dir is APP_INIT_DATA.project_dir ?

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13:31 <PovAddic1> wtf

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13:31 <PovAddic1> <yoyo[RKN]> which dir is APP_INIT_DATA.project_dir ?

13:31 <PovAddic1> <PovAddict> BOINC/projects/boinc.rechenkraft.net_yoyo/

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13:32 <yoyo[RKN]> is there also a variable for the slot directory?

13:35 <yoyo[RKN]> seems not to be the case

13:41 <PovAddict> there is an 'int slot'

13:41 <PovAddict> but why would you need the slot directory?

13:41 <PovAddict> it's ./ from an app

13:43 <yoyo[RKN]> so cop a file from project dir to slot would be like boinc_copy(APP_INIT_DATA.project_dir/results.dat, results.dat)?

13:44 <PovAddict> yes

13:45 <yoyo[RKN]> can I test this localy outside boinc?

13:45 <PovAddict> anonymous platform :)

13:46 <PovAddict> I don't think APP_INIT_DATA will have any useful information if you use standalone mode

13:46 <yoyo[RKN]> and if I put a init_data.xml in the directory?

13:47 <PovAddict> then it won't be standalone mode; but it might try connecting to the shared memory block specified by init_data and fail miserably

13:47 <PovAddict> try it and see

13:58 <yoyo[RKN]> it shortly starts and exits with No heartbeat from core client for 30 sec - exiting

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14:39 * CoderOnTheCouch bemoans the vintage of his spreadsheet scanning code

14:40 <CoderOnTheCouch> I reckon I'm going to have to do the heavy-lifting to bring it out of the Borland world and into the MS world

14:40 <CoderOnTheCouch> should be greatly un-fun

14:41 * CoderOnTheCouch rolls over on the couch in coding agony

14:41 <PovAddict> or into standard C without any Borland or MSVC extension

14:41 <PovAddict> so it works anywhere

14:41 <PovAddict> :)

14:42 <CoderOnTheCouch> is there a good IDE GUI tied to gcc?

14:42 <PovAddict> well what a coincidence

14:42 <PovAddict> I'm right now trying to set up Eclipse CDT

14:42 <PovAddict> no idea if it's good

14:42 <CoderOnTheCouch> Eclipse and gcc, hmm

14:43 <PovAddict> I still haven't got it to notice I have gcc installed

14:43 <CoderOnTheCouch> my Code is vintage 1998 - I did it with Borland 3.1

14:44 <PovAddict> I'll let you know when I get eclipse to build a helloworld.exe

14:44 <PovAddict> when/if

14:44 <CoderOnTheCouch> no knowledge of 32-bitness, regrettably

14:44 <CoderOnTheCouch> but I can cast my way forward

14:45 <CoderOnTheCouch> Borland was a better PC development environment than Microsoft

14:47 <CoderOnTheCouch> &weather 45140

14:47 <Romulus> CoderOnTheCouch: The current temperature in Mitchell Farm, Miami Township, Ohio, Loveland, Ohio is 27.1°F (2:44 PM EST on March 07, 2008). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 23.0°F. Windchill: 23.0°F. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Falling).  Winter Storm Warning in effect until 4 PM EST Saturday...

14:47 <CoderOnTheCouch> I have no idea where Mitchell Farm is, Rommie

14:48 <CoderOnTheCouch> it's too bad you've forgotten how to give a weather forecast

14:49 <CoderOnTheCouch> wait till Jay gets back - hopefully he'll set you straight

14:50 <wdsmia> &weather 50265

14:51 <Romulus> wdsmia: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 18.7°F (1:49 PM CST on March 07, 2008). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 3.2°F. Windchill: 6.8°F. Pressure: 29.33 in 993.1 hPa (Falling).

14:51 <wdsmia> well at least he's getting the town right now

14:52 <CoderOnTheCouch> Falling?

14:53 <CoderOnTheCouch> Mine would be "skidding" right now

14:53 <wdsmia> lol

14:53 <CoderOnTheCouch> 4" of snow today

14:53 <CoderOnTheCouch> it's expected to drop about 10" overnight, starting at 6pm

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14:54 <CoderOnTheCouch> then they turn on the fan and blow it all around

14:54 <CoderOnTheCouch> they're predicting 2 foot drifts in the morning

14:54 <CoderOnTheCouch> and you know what *they* say

14:54 <wdsmia> you have been lucky most of the winter your due :P

14:55 <CoderOnTheCouch> why thank you very much

14:55 <Tank_Master> we havent been lucky here

14:55 <Tank_Master> we didnt get as much snow as normal

14:56 <Tank_Master> more days then noormal, but none of them had enought to even go sledding

14:56 * CoderOnTheCouch goes back to his desktop machine

14:56 * wdsmia goes to unpack new quad

14:57 <Tank_Master> !!

14:57 <PovAddict> post pictures

14:57 * Tank_Master goes over to wdsmia's place to beat up the quad

14:57 <PovAddict> "pictures of people unboxing hardware is the new geek porn"

14:57 * Tank_Master runs out of the place yelling " IF I CAN'T HAVE IT, NOONE CAN!!!!"

14:58 <Tank_Master> lol

14:58 <wdsmia> I think UPS beat you to it Tank_Master

14:58 <Tank_Master> no, geekporn is the fry's ad

14:58 <Tank_Master> oh?

14:58 <Romulus> It has been said that oh is it like SocialBorg, Tank_Master

14:58 <Tank_Master> &forget oh?

14:58 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: There is no such factoid.

15:04 <mweltin> if someone sees nickow (I forget his real nickname) tell him I'm in #tsp if he needs help.

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15:13 <CoderOnTheCouch> back

15:14 <CoderOnTheCouch> looks like I'm going to take the MS bullet on this one, Pov

15:14 * CoderOnTheCouch smells the food being prepared

15:15 <CoderOnTheCouch> CDT looks like a thing on a thing on a thing

15:16 <PovAddict> well, the java environment is too

15:16 <CoderOnTheCouch> after I eat, I plan to download and try Visual C++ 2008 Express Edition

15:17 <CoderOnTheCouch> I have the 2005 or 6 version

15:17 <PovAddict> they're at the same "level"

15:17 <CoderOnTheCouch> my first problem is some of my includes from the Borland code don't exist in the MS world

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15:18 <CoderOnTheCouch> this thing needs to run like a fiend

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15:24 <mweltin> is there some predefined macro called DEBUG(x) in C?

15:24 <PovAddict> not part of C definitely

15:26 <mweltin> ok I have all these  type of statments " DEBUG ( assert( n > nn ); ) " but the only reference to DEBUG is in a header file and is #define DEBUG( x )

15:26 <PovAddict> yep that's to disable it

15:26 <mweltin> I'd liek to assume its the same as #ifdef DEBUG blah blah blah #endif

15:26 <PovAddict> to enable it, you probably want #define DEBUG(x) x

15:27 <mweltin> ok

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15:42 <wdsmia> back

15:49 <CoderOnTheCouch> wb

15:50 <wdsmia> new quad up and running ;)

15:50 <CoderOnTheCouch> congrats

15:51 * CoderOnTheCouch wants a quad

15:51 * wdsmia thinks everyone needs a quad of quads

15:52 * CoderOnTheCouch nods vigorously

15:53 * PovAddict adds to the nodding

15:56 * CoderOnTheCouch heads upstairs to download the IDE from the Dark Side

15:59 <CoderForLife> welcome to the Dark Side

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16:04 <CoderForLife> ack - we now have a blizzard warning

16:04 <CoderForLife> for the next 24 hours

16:05 <Tank_Master> fun

16:05 <PovAddict> &weather buenos aires

16:05 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

16:05 <Romulus> not sure. probably on trac somewhhere

16:05 <CoderForLife> 10 to 15 inches total accumulation

16:05 <PovAddict> is weather broken?

16:05 <PovAddict> :)

16:05 <CoderForLife> whiteout predicted

16:06 <CoderForLife> winds gusting to 40mph overnight

16:12 <CoderForLife> they're going to shutdown some of the highways

16:13 <Tank_Master> fun

16:13 <Tank_Master> send it this way!

16:13 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

16:13 <Romulus> Tank_Master: The current temperature in Cooper Mountain, Beaverton, Oregon is 45.9°F (1:04 PM PST on March 07, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 255%. Windchill: 46.4°F. Pressure: 19.99 in 676.9 hPa (Falling).

16:14 <Tank_Master> this is a different wather mod than we had before...

16:14 <Tank_Master> gaa

16:14 <Tank_Master> clear? CLEAR?

16:14 <Tank_Master> clear my @$$

16:14 <PovAddict> Cooper Mountain?

16:15 <Tank_Master> not fR FROM WHERE i LIVE

16:15 <Tank_Master> MUST BE WHERE THE WEATHER STATION IS

16:15 <Tank_Master> ctupis caplock

16:15 <Tank_Master> stupid*

16:16 <PovAddict> last time I checked, Romulus was mixing up cities

16:16 <Tank_Master> no, its right (for this one) but I reconize the format

16:17 <Tank_Master> its the same weather mod the #rieselsieve channel uses

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16:35 <CoderForLife> I need forecasts, not current conditions near me

16:35 <CoderForLife> I *know* current conditions

16:37 * CoderForLife with his burnable bandwidth, gets the Express Edition ISO from Mykrosopht

16:40 <CoderForLife> Dot Net Phramewerk 3.5

16:43 <CoderForLife> I will build for unmanaged code

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16:44 <wdsmia> you must be looking for a new job with M$ or Boinc

16:45 <CoderForLife> actually, looking to be a hero at my current job, and leverage this into a product

16:45 <CoderForLife> as it once was

16:46 <wdsmia> Ahh been there done it

16:46 <CoderForLife> me too

16:46 <CoderForLife> but I won't quit my day job again

16:46 <wdsmia> lol

16:47 <wdsmia> better than you day job leaving you

16:48 <wdsmia> er your

16:48 <CoderForLife> I had someone wish that on me recently

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16:51 <wdsmia> Beleave me its no fun when "they" deside to cut 70% of the workforce and you wind up out on your butt after 19 years

16:52 <CoderForLife> doubtless

16:54 <wdsmia> went to work for my old customer and life is good again

16:55 <CoderForLife> I know - I'm glad

16:58 <wdsmia> best part they put me in charge of dealing with my old company <evil grin>

17:00 <Soul_keeper> any of you purchased a computer case lately ?

17:00 <wdsmia> yep

17:01 <Soul_keeper> any you would recommend ?

17:01 <wdsmia> have a old one to sell if you want it :)

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17:01 <Soul_keeper> i'm looking for something low price, 120mm exhaust and intake fan possibly with intake airfilter

17:02 <wdsmia> short answer bigger and more fans the better

17:02 <CoderForLife> bbiab

17:03 <wdsmia> unless you go for a water jacket

17:05 <Soul_keeper> seems a lot of cases have moved the intake fan from the fron to the side

17:05 <Soul_keeper> not sure if i like that

17:07 <wdsmia> works well if you set up a way to remove the heat from the back

17:08 <wdsmia> http://home.mchsi.com/~d.barker/DSC00055.JPG

17:08 <wdsmia> http://home.mchsi.com/~d.barker/DSC00099.JPG

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17:09 <wdsmia> http://home.mchsi.com/~d.barker/DSC00048.JPG

17:10 <Soul_keeper> nice\

17:12 <wdsmia> nice clean air in and hot air outside summer, and pumped into return air in winter

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17:16 * wdsmia needs to update the pic's

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17:26 <wdsmia> *lo zombie67

17:27 <zombie67> hi wdsmia

17:27 <wdsmia> passed 8M

17:28 <zombie67> congrats!  I just hit 12M today

17:28 <zombie67> oot!  gotta run!

17:28 <zombie67> bbl

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17:55 <nickuwo> welp, I even remade a project from scratch and I still get signature errors...

17:56 <PovAddict> get all your sigs set up right before attaching *any* client

17:56 <Romulus> I just found my problem sort of.......

17:56 <nickuwo> I just let update_versions do it this time

17:56 <nickuwo> before I connected

17:57 <nickuwo> perhaps I have a virus

17:58 <PovAddict> ...

17:58 <PovAddict> perhaps aliens are messing with your computer

17:58 <PovAddict> or magneto man is sitting to close to it

17:59 <nickuwo> I don't know POVaddict, I had the wrapper example working fine.

17:59 <nickuwo> and the test app... although both of those were on an older version of BOINC

18:00 <nickuwo> is there any way you can get it to not worry about the sigs? My project won't be public so..

18:02 <PovAddict> yes, don't sign them

18:03 <nickuwo> wont update_versions sign them?

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18:08 <Rookie_69> &weather yhz

18:08 <Romulus> Rookie_69: The current temperature in Halifax, Nova Scotia is 32.0°F (7:00 PM AST on March 07, 2008). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Windchill: 23.0°F. Pressure: 30.34 in 1027 hPa (Falling).

18:09 <wdsmia> *lo Glenn

18:09 <Rookie_69> *lo, Doug.

18:09 <Rookie_69> &more

18:09 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more.  To do so, call this command with that person's nick.

18:09 <Rookie_69> I want more weather!!!

18:09 <PovAddict> there was no more

18:10 <Rookie_69> So?

18:10 <Romulus> hmm... So is iStat, Rookie_69

18:10 * wdsmia send a storm Rookie_69's way

18:10 <PovAddict> &unload infobot

18:10 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.

18:10 * Rookie_69 means he wants more weather information...

18:12 <Tank_Master> &whothefuckami

18:12 <wdsmia> asks Tank_Master to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

18:12 <Romulus> Wish I knew.

18:12 <Tank_Master> lol

18:13 <PovAddict> &alias add whothefuckami whoami

18:13 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

18:13 <wdsmia> asks PovAddict to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

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18:17 * wdsmia reminds pov that teaching Rommie bad word is grounds for kick/ban

18:17 <PovAddict> :o

18:18 * PovAddict removes alias

18:18 <PovAddict> Tank_Master started it!

18:18 <Soul_keeper> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129024     i want this case, but it's too expensive ....

18:18 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1eJz> (at www.newegg.com)

18:19 <CoderOnTheCouch> you are arrayed on the horns of a dilemma

18:23 <Tank_Master> lol

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18:52 * KathrynM is back (gone 09:01:30)

18:52 <MTughan> 'lo Kathy

18:53 <KathrynM> mornin'

18:53 <KathrynM> happy weekend

18:53 <MTughan> March Break here. :P

18:54 <KathrynM> I have the fun job of installing XP on a friend's computer today :/

18:54 * KathrynM would much rather install Fedora

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18:55 <MTughan> Well, XP is better than Vista.

18:55 <PovAddict> install some linux distro and a xp-looking skin

18:55 <PovAddict> and an IE-looking firefox skin

18:55 <wdsmia> xp install is a 20 min job max

18:55 <MTughan> Hehe... Nice.

18:55 <Rookie_69> No march break for me. That's only for school kids... Although... Maybe we should all get it.

18:55 <wdsmia> *lo Kathryn

18:55 <MTughan> wdsmia: I've had 40-50m XP installs.

18:55 <KathrynM> hiya wdsmia

18:55 <KathrynM> 20 min?

18:55 <MTughan> Dinner time it seems... Seeya.

18:56 <KathrynM> laters

18:56 <KathrynM> last time I did it it was like an hour

18:56 <KathrynM> and about a dozen reboots :/

18:57 <Rookie_69> You moved the cursor... Windoze has to reboot.

18:58 <KathrynM> lol

18:58 <KathrynM> crap.  forgot to run yum last night

18:58 <PovAddict> owh I remember Win95...

18:58 <PovAddict> change a network config = reboot

18:58 <PovAddict> change screen resolution = reboot

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18:59 <KathrynM> ha!  started update process faster than IE would even open ;)

18:59 * KathrynM hopes fedora mirrors aren't overloaded

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19:20 <Rookie_69> Moo.

19:20 <efc> Hey

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19:30 <CoderOnTheCouch> Moo Hey

19:31 * CoderOnTheCouch awaits the blizzard

19:33 <Rookie_69> Dairy Queen sells a nice Blizzard.

19:33 <wdsmia> does it come with nuts?

19:33 <Rookie_69> Sometimes...

19:33 <Rookie_69> Sometimes I feel like a nut...

19:34 <Rookie_69> Sometimes I act like one...

19:35 <wdsmia> not news

19:35 <wdsmia> :)

19:36 <Rookie_69> Supposed to be a weekend full of rain here... Nothing surprising there.

19:37 <wdsmia> I seem to remember rain sometime last september

19:40 <MTughan> CoderOnTheCouch: Yeah, it's been a bad year for those, hasn't it?

19:43 * efc likes the Moo Latte better

19:44 <MTughan> Starbucks?

19:44 <efc> thats DQ too

19:44 <MTughan> Oh, right...

19:45 * wdsmia likes expresso keep the moo

19:47 <MTughan> Or the moo juice.

19:47 <PovAddict> cow juice?

19:47 <PovAddict> squeezing a cow?

19:47 <MTughan> Moo juice. What a restaurant called Lick's calls milk.

19:48 <PovAddict> o

19:48 <MTughan> And you do technically squeeze a cow to get it...

19:48 <MTughan> Just her boobs.

19:52 <efc> they carry mace now

19:52 <MTughan> lol...

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20:05 <CoderOnTheCouch> well - off to do some reading before the White Winds of Death arrive - the snow has restarted

20:05 <Rookie_69> Up to 36... Tonight's low might be higher than today's high!

20:05 <nickuwo> Pov, I got it working :)

20:05 <nickuwo> Wooowe!

20:06 <CoderOnTheCouch> we're expecting about 10 more inches of snow and 40 mph winds

20:06 <Rookie_69> Wish that was C instead of F.

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20:06 <Rookie_69> Drifts for Coder!

20:06 <CoderOnTheCouch> it would be sad if this affected my ability to crunch WUs

20:06 <KathrynM> congrats nickuwo

20:06 <nickuwo> thanks KathrynM

20:07 <CoderOnTheCouch> just re-lit my SETI candle this even ing - it had gone out

20:07 <CoderOnTheCouch> anyways - off to read

20:07 <KathrynM> laters

20:07 <Rookie_69> CU.

20:07 <KathrynM> stay warm

20:07 * CoderOnTheCouch waves an Amazon Kindle

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20:08 <KathrynM> I'm off for a bit too.  Gotta clean up the apartment.

20:08 * KathrynM wishes there was a cleaning@home for boinc

20:08 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

20:08 <CoderForLife> glad he's gone

20:08 <CoderForLife> I can get some rest now =)

20:09 <Rookie_69> Identity crisis?

20:09 <CoderForLife> no crisis here

20:09 <CoderForLife> I'm off too

20:09 <wdsmia> cya

20:09 <CoderForLife> buh-bye

20:10 * CoderForLife waves a UPS

20:10 <Rookie_69> Universal Postal Service???

20:14 <MTughan> Or uninterruptable power supply...

20:34 <Rookie_69> Uninterpretable Post Script?

20:36 <Wabbit98> uninhabitable player service

20:39 <Tank_Master> Uninterupatable postal service

20:40 <Rookie_69> Yeah, right.

20:40 <Romulus> Or kill -9 <pid> if you're feeling evil.

20:40 <MTughan> Heh, that was me...

20:42 <Rookie_69> University Party Spot.

20:43 <wdsmia> kill -9 <MTughan>

20:44 <Rookie_69> Universally Procreative Species?

20:44 <wdsmia> &cyborg ups

20:44 <Romulus> wdsmia: U.P.S.: Unit Programmed for Sabotage

20:44 <MTughan> I like that...

20:45 <Wabbit98> &cyborg wdsmia

20:45 <Romulus> Wabbit98: W.D.S.M.I.A.: Wireless Digital Sabotage and Masterful Infiltration Android

20:45 <Rookie_69> He agrees with that one.

20:45 <wdsmia> &cyborg Wabbit98

20:45 <Romulus> wdsmia: W.A.B.B.I.T.: Wireless Artificial Being Built for Immediate Troubleshooting

20:45 <MTughan> And I like his too.

20:46 <Wabbit98> &cyborg MTughan

20:46 <Romulus> Wabbit98: M.T.U.G.H.A.N.: Mechanical Transforming Unit Generated for Hazardous Assassination and Nullification

20:46 <MTughan> Hehe... It's assassination.

20:46 <Wabbit98> and it can't say ass

20:46 <KathrynM> lol

20:46 <MTughan> Anyone know what char 0x0d is?

20:46 <KathrynM> &cyborg kathrynm

20:46 <Romulus> KathrynM: K.A.T.H.R.Y.N.M.: Kinetic Artificial Technician Hardwired for Rational Yelling and Nocturnal Mathematics

20:46 <Rookie_69> bumbumination...

20:46 <KathrynM> lol

20:46 <KathrynM> rational yelling ;)

20:46 <KathrynM> that's me at work

20:47 <Rookie_69> Lol.

20:47 <wdsmia> rofl

20:47 <Rookie_69> I had a few teachers like that.

20:47 <wdsmia> &cyborg Rookie_69

20:47 <Romulus> wdsmia: R.O.O.K.I.E.: Robotic Organism Optimized for Killing and Immediate Exploration

20:47 <KathrynM> lol

20:48 <Wabbit98> &cyborg PovAddict

20:48 <Romulus> Wabbit98: P.O.V.A.D.D.I.C.T.: Positronic Organism Viable for Accurate Destruction, Dangerous Infiltration and Ceaseless Troubleshooting

20:48 <KathrynM> ceaseless troubleshoot...

20:48 <KathrynM> perfect :)

20:48 <Rookie_69> Ceaseless trouble...

20:48 <Rookie_69> ;-)

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20:49 <MTughan> He just missed it...

20:49 <Rookie_69> El Diablo...

20:49 <Wabbit98> &cyborg Romulus

20:49 <Romulus> Wabbit98: R.O.M.U.L.U.S.: Robotic Operational Machine Used for Logical Utility and Sabotage

20:50 <Rookie_69> Nope. No logic in Romulus.

20:50 <wdsmia> &cyborg CoderForLife

20:50 <Romulus> wdsmia: Names can't have more than 10 letters. Please enter another name.

20:50 <Wabbit98> heheh

20:50 <wdsmia> lol

20:50 <Wabbit98> &cyborg MacG

20:50 <Romulus> Wabbit98: M.A.C.G.: Mechanical Android Calibrated for Gratification

20:50 <wdsmia> &cyborg Coder

20:50 <Romulus> wdsmia: C.O.D.E.R.: Cybernetic Organism Designed for Exploration and Repair

20:50 <Tank_Master> &cyborg CFL

20:50 <Romulus> Tank_Master: C.F.L.: Cybernetic Functional Lifeform

20:51 <wdsmia> &cyborg Tank

20:51 <Romulus> wdsmia: T.A.N.K.: Transforming Android Normally for Killing

20:51 <wdsmia> &cyborg Master

20:51 <Romulus> wdsmia: M.A.S.T.E.R.: Mechanical Artificial Sabotage and Thorough Exploration Replicant

20:51 <Tank_Master> C.O.D.E.R.: Cybernetic Orgasum Designed for Exploration and Repair

20:52 <Wabbit98> &cyborg zombie

20:52 <Romulus> Wabbit98: Z.O.M.B.I.E.: Zombie Optimized for Masterful Battle and Immediate Exploration

20:53 <zombie67> nice

20:54 <Wabbit98> what is mw's full nick?

20:56 <wdsmia> &cyborg mweltin

20:56 <Romulus> wdsmia: M.W.E.L.T.I.N.: Mechanical Worker Engineered for Logical Troubleshooting and Immediate Nullification

21:01 <bryanUC> &cyborg bryanUC

21:01 <Romulus> bryanUC: B.R.Y.A.N.U.C.: Biomechanical Robotic Youth Assembled for Nullification and Ultimate Calculation

21:02 <KathrynM> lol

21:02 <wdsmia> lol Robotic Youth

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21:15 * Rookie_69 wonders if Malariacontrol lost many users at the end of February...

21:16 <wdsmia> http://boincstats.com/stats/project_graph.php?pr=mcp

21:16 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1eLY> (at boincstats.com)

21:16 <MTughan> And my BOINC Manager is now up on SF.net... http://sourceforge.net/projects/boincmanager/

21:16 <Romulus> Title: SourceForge.net: BOINC Manager (at sourceforge.net)

21:17 <MTughan> Seems that Malaria Control is still making steady credits.

21:18 <MTughan> Wow... Einstein bet app has huge speedups on both computers.

21:18 <MTughan> Mac, speeds up from 30h/WU to 7h50m/WU.

21:18 <MTughan> P4 is on track for 64h down to about 17h.

21:21 <Rookie_69> What do you do on a rainy night in Toronto?..

21:21 <MTughan> Party. :D

21:21 <wdsmia> make little MTughan's

21:21 <Rookie_69> MacLean andMaclean jingle popped into my head...

21:21 <MTughan> >_>

21:22 <MTughan> I don't know what some do, but I'd be happy to just stay inside and program all day.

21:22 <wdsmia> geek!

21:22 <Rookie_69> Lol.

21:22 <MTughan> And proud of it!

21:22 * MTughan sticks out his chest

21:23 <Rookie_69> Wdsmia is a geek for a living so he shuns it after five.

21:23 <wdsmia> thats 4pm

21:23 <Rookie_69> K.

21:24 <Rookie_69> ^ Atlantic...

21:24 <Rookie_69> ...

21:24 <Rookie_69> 6 Atlantic...

21:25 <Rookie_69> Won't even run Linux cause it's a lot like Unix.

21:26 <MTughan> Unix is quite popular.

21:26 <MTughan> *BSD and Mac OS X come to mind.

21:38 <Rookie_69> Hey! Mr Tangerine Man peel an orange for me.

21:39 * Rookie_69 has a wandering mind.

21:41 * KathrynM spent the last 25 minutes telling the familiar units about the beautiful weather in Ulsan

21:41 <KathrynM> *familial

21:42 <wdsmia> weather rocks are the same all over the would

21:43 <Rookie_69> That's ok... we know Korean english and American english are not the same.

21:43 <Rookie_69> ... womb?

21:43 <Rookie_69> Oh. World.

21:44 <Rookie_69> Lol.

21:45 <wdsmia> knew there was a r in there someware

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21:46 <wdsmia> *lo BAK

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22:20 <nickuwo> anyone know how to compile sample_work_generator?

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22:47 <nickuwo> POV, do you know how to compile sample_work_generator?

22:53 <Rookie_69> NN all.

22:53 <MTughan> Night.

22:53 <wdsmia> cya

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23:06 <nickuwo> make

23:07 <nickuwo> whoops

23:08 <MTughan> Wrong window. :P

23:09 <nickuwo> Damn synergy :)

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