IRC logs of #boinc for Sunday, 2008-03-09

00:00 <MTughan> Hmm... You have -pthread twice in wgap first compile, and -pthread and -lpthread in the second one.

00:01 <mweltin> so

00:01 <MTughan> I don't think it affects performance though.

00:01 <MTughan> Whatever. Your mess.

00:01 <mweltin> hahahahaha

00:01 <MTughan> If you understand it, that's all that's needed. :P

00:02 <mweltin> yes I could make things a little cleaner.

00:02 <MTughan> Hey, if it works.

00:02 <mweltin> it comes from cutting and pasting crap from differnt sources until it works.

00:02 <MTughan> The only other thing I noticed is that ga has no optimizations on it.

00:02 <Tank_Master> mw!

00:02 <mweltin> by that time I'm so sick of it I never go back to fix it.

00:02 <mweltin> Tank_Master, !!

00:02 <Tank_Master> sup?

00:02 <MTughan> wgap has -O2 on both compilations, but ga has nothing.

00:04 <mweltin> not much

00:04 <Romulus> pick the faster one

00:04 <MTughan> &stuf

00:04 <Romulus> No idea, MTughan.

00:04 <MTughan> &stfu

00:04 * Romulus shuts up (fingers crossed)

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00:13 <nickuwo> still givin me a buttload of undefined references

00:13 <MTughan> Paste one.

00:15 <mweltin> order is important in the command line for the linker too.

00:15 <nickuwo> '/home/boincadm/boinc_trunk/lib/crypt.C undefined reference to 'RSA_size''

00:15 <nickuwo> hm

00:16 <mweltin> what?

00:16 <nickuwo> what order should they be in

00:16 <nickuwo> ?

00:16 <MTughan> Link in libcrypto, I would think. -lcrypto

00:16 <mweltin> -lcrypt

00:17 <MTughan> -lcrypto here.

00:17 <MTughan> I don't have a libcrypt.

00:17 <mweltin> I have both in my build line

00:17 <nickuwo> crypto got rid of some of them :)

00:18 <mweltin> I should try to remove one.

00:18 <MTughan> What's another one?

00:18 <nickuwo> mysql :)

00:18 <Romulus> when they put me in Wisconsin

00:18 <mweltin> -lmysqlclient

00:18 <MTughan> You should probably do -lssl too.

00:19 <nickuwo> got it :)

00:19 <nickuwo> thx guys

00:19 <MTughan> Compiles?

00:20 <nickuwo> ya

00:20 <MTughan> Good.

00:20 <mweltin> sweet

00:20 <nickuwo> superb

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00:42 <TheGasGiant> &weather ymml

00:42 <Romulus> TheGasGiant: The current temperature in Melbourne Airport, Victoria is 93.2F (4:00 PM EST on March 09, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 14%. Dew Point: 37.4F. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling).

00:43 <TheGasGiant> &math convert 93.2 F to C

00:43 <Romulus> TheGasGiant: 34

00:43 <efc> Moo TGG

00:43 <quail> &weather ypad

00:43 <Romulus> quail: The current temperature in Adelaide, South Australia is 100.4F (4:00 PM CST on March 09, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 11%. Dew Point: 35.6F. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).

00:43 <TheGasGiant> hole eddie!

00:43 <efc> Wow, we could use some of that heat

00:43 <TheGasGiant> g'day Dale...hot!

00:44 <Romulus> here is assign blame

00:44 <efc> freezing here, and colder up north

00:44 <TheGasGiant> hola eddie...

00:44 <quail> hey eddie and paul

00:44 <TheGasGiant> brrr...we could do with some

00:44 * quail is melting from this heat and we got another 9 days of mid to high 30s

00:44 <TheGasGiant> ugh...

00:45 <TheGasGiant> that's pretty ugly Dale

00:45 <quail> yeah :-(

00:45 <efc> We need a Global Heat Distribution Network

00:46 <Tank_Master> lol

00:46 <Tank_Master> yeah, I need more heat

00:46 <TheGasGiant> i noticed the spot electricity price was hitting $10,000/MWh during the week

00:46 <TheGasGiant> in SA

00:46 <mweltin> I have it all

00:46 <Tank_Master> wow

00:46 <Tank_Master> all the gass?

00:46 <Tank_Master> or the hot air?

00:46 <mweltin> heat

00:46 <Tank_Master> ;)

00:46 <mweltin> water temp 84

00:47 <mweltin> air is a little hotter

00:47 <mweltin> &weather pago

00:47 <Romulus> mweltin: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

00:47 <mweltin> no one wanted to see it anyway

00:47 <TheGasGiant> my temp sensors on my board have gone haywire

00:47 <TheGasGiant> saying it's 125C

00:48 <TheGasGiant> where's pago?

00:48 <mweltin> American Samoa

00:48 <MTughan> Pago Pago to be specific.

00:48 <mweltin> Pago Pago harbor, I'm looking at it right now.

00:48 <TheGasGiant> ahhh

00:48 <MTughan> &weather "Pago Pago"

00:48 <Romulus> MTughan: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

00:49 <MTughan> Oh well.

00:49 <mweltin> &weather 96799

00:49 <Romulus> mweltin: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.

00:49 <TheGasGiant> no luck

00:49 <mweltin> taht used to work

00:49 <mweltin> its about the same everyday

00:49 <Tank_Master> its broke

00:49 <Tank_Master> or a different weather mod

00:49 <mweltin> high 90 low 80 chance of rain

00:49 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

00:50 <TheGasGiant> 32C and humid?

00:50 <Romulus> Tank_Master: The current temperature in Cooper Mountain, Beaverton, Oregon is 42.8F (9:43 PM PST on March 08, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 255%. Windchill: 42.8F. Pressure: 19.99 in 676.9 hPa (Falling).

00:50 <Tank_Master> soo? just current

00:50 <Tank_Master> see*

00:52 <mweltin> bbs

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00:53 <MTughan> Whoa... BOINC homepage is down.

00:53 <KathrynM> up for me

00:54 <KathrynM> but did the page get redesigned?

00:54 <KathrynM> or has it been that long since I looked at it :)

00:54 <MTughan> I've got nothing there.

00:54 <quail> MTughan: the heat killed the server :-P

00:54 <TheGasGiant> up for me as well

00:54 <MTughan> No, they redesigned it.

00:54 <TheGasGiant> and it is looking a little different

00:54 <KathrynM> isaac hates you MTughan

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01:00 <mirvk2> p/

01:00 <Tank_Master> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/cieslak.pdf

01:01 <Tank_Master> boinc redesign proposal

01:01 <KathrynM> anything I've yet to get around to reading

01:01 <mirvk2> is there a way to tell my client executable to open the files described in the workunit template

01:01 <KathrynM> *another thing

01:01 <mirvk2> might be obvious but im not seeing it..

01:02 <mirvk2> is it in the APP_INIT_DATA perhaps?

01:02 <KathrynM> I've no idea mirvk2, sorry

01:02 <mirvk2> anyone?

01:02 <Romulus> geves the evil eye to xcamel

01:02 * KathrynM gives the evil eye to Romulus

01:02 <KathrynM> &stfu

01:02 * Romulus shuts up (fingers crossed)

01:03 <mirvk2> kat are u the expert?

01:03 <mirvk2> :-\

01:03 <Tank_Master> lol

01:03 <KathrynM> me?

01:03 <KathrynM> hahahahaha

01:03 <mirvk2> :-)

01:03 <KathrynM> jI'm a lowly English teacher

01:03 <KathrynM> (who can't spell)

01:03 <KathrynM> (or type)

01:03 <mirvk2> poor thing

01:04 <KathrynM> Tomorrow I get to start teaching phonics all morning.

01:04 <KathrynM> I'm not looking forward to it.

01:05 * mirvk2 has no idea about the logistics of teaching phonics

01:05 <mirvk2> but i saw this thing on tv last night

01:05 <mirvk2> brainetics

01:05 <mirvk2> it was for little kids but it was cool

01:05 <KathrynM> sounds like fun

01:06 <mirvk2> 13 x 34

01:06 <KathrynM> I do lots of chants

01:06 <mirvk2> romulus what is that

01:06 <Romulus> Bugger all, I dunno.

01:06 <mirvk2> 30912?

01:06 <KathrynM> A A A /a/ /a/ /a/ A /a/ Apple

01:06 <mirvk2> mush rommy mush

01:06 <KathrynM> I thought I told rommie to &stfu

01:06 <mirvk2> lol

01:07 <mirvk2> rommy u going to take it?

01:07 * mirvk2 notices rommy whimpering in corner w his childhood blanket..

01:07 <mirvk2> :-X

01:07 <KathrynM> lol

01:07 <Tank_Master> :P

01:07 <KathrynM> perhaps he misses his mommyboard?

01:08 <Tank_Master> &math 13x34

01:08 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)

01:08 <Tank_Master> &math 13 x 34

01:08 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)

01:08 <mirvk2> gah

01:08 <Tank_Master> &math 13 times 34

01:08 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)

01:08 <KathrynM> &math 13*34

01:08 <Romulus> KathrynM: 442

01:08 <Tank_Master> for #@$@#'s sake\

01:08 <mirvk2> nvm

01:08 <KathrynM> woo hoo

01:08 <KathrynM> lucky guess

01:08 <Tank_Master> bastard

01:08 <Tank_Master> ;)

01:08 * KathrynM bows

01:09 <Tank_Master> I knew that to

01:09 <Tank_Master> now that I see iut

01:09 * KathrynM no\ds and smiles

01:09 <mirvk2> anyhow im rambling

01:09 <mirvk2> but there was this cool way to multiply 2 2 digit numbers in like a second

01:10 <Rookie_69> calculator.

01:10 <MTughan> You mean a cool trick?

01:11 <MTughan> Rommie can do powers too.

01:11 <MTughan> &math calc 2 ** 10

01:11 <Romulus> MTughan: 1024

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01:12 <mirvk2> yeah cool tricks

01:12 <mirvk2> 9 year old kids were adding like 10 numbers in their head in around 5 seconds

01:12 <Romulus> thats messed up everything

01:13 <mirvk2> or multiplying 56x32 in their head no problem

01:13 <mirvk2> 1782

01:13 <mirvk2> ?

01:13 <MTughan> &math calc 56 * 32

01:13 <Romulus> MTughan: 1792

01:13 <mirvk2> close

01:13 <MTughan> 10 off.

01:14 <mirvk2> give me 2 more 2 digits

01:14 <mirvk2> someone..

01:14 <MTughan> &list math

01:14 <Romulus> MTughan: base, calc, convert, icalc, rpn, and units

01:14 <MTughan> I was hoping for a random...

01:14 <mirvk2> 38 x 59 = ?

01:15 <mirvk2> bit harder

01:15 <mirvk2> 72

01:15 <mirvk2> 40

01:15 <mirvk2> 27

01:15 <mirvk2> 15

01:15 <MTughan> 2182?

01:16 <MTughan> &math calc 38 * 59

01:16 <Romulus> MTughan: 2242

01:16 <MTughan> Damn, I was off...

01:16 <mirvk2> http://www.themathlab.com/natural/mental%20math%20tricks/foil%20and%20rapid%20mult%20tricks/speedmlt.htm

01:16 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1eVi> (at www.themathlab.com)

01:17 <mirvk2> i suppose thats not really that great a trick

01:17 <mirvk2> oh well

01:17 * mirvk2 fails

01:19 <mirvk2> I blame my parents

01:21 <Tank_Master> lol

01:21 <Tank_Master> dont we all

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01:22 <MTughan> Huh, nice...

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01:44 <Wabbit67> I am now crunching projects starting with the letter M or later

01:52 <MTughan> Oh gah... mirvk2: Here's the solution to the puzzle. http://www.themathlab.com/natural/mental%20math%20tricks/foil%20and%20rapid%20mult%20tricks/funkadelic.html

01:52 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1eVn> (at www.themathlab.com)

01:53 <MTughan> That's what you call bad design...

01:53 <MTughan> I think that left an afterimage.

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05:42 <Romulus> I heard she was thinking I could be considered an input file

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06:11 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

06:11 <Romulus> CoderForLife: The current temperature in Mitchell Farm, Miami Township, Ohio, Loveland, Ohio is 14.2F (6:11 AM EDT on March 09, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 10.4F. Windchill: 14.0F. Pressure: 30.26 in 1024.6 hPa (Rising).

06:12 <CoderForLife> who stole our Rommiw, and replaced him with you?

06:12 <CoderForLife> *Rommie

06:12 <KathrynM> aliens?

06:12 <Romulus> hmm... aliens are disturbing our CPUs, KathrynM

06:12 <KathrynM> *sigh*

06:13 <CoderForLife> morning Ms. K

06:13 <KathrynM> mornin CoderForLife

06:13 <KathrynM> oh goodie...  House is on

06:13 <KathrynM> bbl

06:13 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

06:13 <Romulus> it's a directory premission problem, fixing it..

06:14 <CoderForLife> Um

06:14 <CoderForLife> OK

06:14 * CoderForLife wanders off in the direction of breakfast

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06:18 <Bad_At_Home> Mornin all

06:18 <Bad_At_Home> &weather 86023

06:18 <Romulus> Bad_At_Home: The current temperature in Grand Canyon, Arizona is 21.2F (2:54 AM MST on March 09, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 19.4F. Windchill: 21.2F. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling).

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06:52 * CoderForLife wanders back

07:02 * KathrynM is back (gone 00:49:06)

07:03 * CoderForLife breathes a sign of relief

07:04 <KathrynM> did the snow stop?

07:05 <CoderForLife> yes, about the time we went outside yesterday, around 2:00

07:05 <CoderForLife> 12" on the driveway to move

07:05 <KathrynM> ugh

07:06 <CoderForLife> that's what I said this morning trying to rotate my shoulders

07:06 <CoderForLife> fortunately I bought a snowthrower when we moved here

07:07 <CoderForLife> I have a long driveway, as you will recall

07:07 <KathrynM> I do recall

07:07 <CoderForLife> usually takes 7 passes - due to depth, I had to "shave" off the snow

07:08 <CoderForLife> probably more like 70 passes

07:08 <KathrynM> ouch ouch ouch

07:08 <CoderForLife> kept the snowthrower running for 3 hours

07:08 <CoderForLife> not counting the manual shoveling that wife and son did

07:09 <CoderForLife> I did some shoveling too

07:09 <CoderForLife> this is the deepest snow we've seen here in about a decade or so

07:09 * KathrynM doesn't miss the snow

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07:10 <CoderForLife> Cleveland got pounded yesterday

07:10 <CoderForLife> was supposed to stop snowing there at midnight

07:11 <CoderForLife> they were bringing trucks into downtown last night and using end-loaders to fill the trucks with snow

07:12 <CoderForLife> we were originally talking about going to this before the snow came http://www.hartproductions.com/HomeGarden/

07:12 <Romulus> Title: hartHart Productions, Inc. (at www.hartproductions.com)

07:13 <CoderForLife> since the police told everyone to stay home and off the roads, I guessing attendence was way off

07:13 * KathrynM hates sites that require wmp

07:13 <CoderForLife> hmm?

07:13 <KathrynM> was looking at wkyc

07:13 <KathrynM> wanted to watch a video about the weather

07:13 <KathrynM> no luck

07:13 <CoderForLife> wkrc?

07:14 <KathrynM> nope wkyc out of cleveland

07:14 <CoderForLife> ah

07:14 <CoderForLife> sorry to be so SW Ohio-centric

07:14 <KathrynM> heh.  np

07:20 <CoderForLife> we're on Daylight Saving Time now

07:20 <KathrynM> oh thanks

07:20 <KathrynM> I was wondering when the change was

07:22 <CoderForLife> you're welcome - keep the change

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07:24 <KathrynM> awwww

07:24 <KathrynM> http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/03/kitten_survives_transpacific_j.html

07:24 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1eX-> (at blog.cleveland.com)

07:26 <CoderForLife> that's sad

07:26 <KathrynM> yeah

07:26 <Romulus> o-chem was so stats based

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11:16 <CoderForLife> PovAddict

11:16 <CoderForLife> you around, PovAddict?

11:24 * CoderForLife makes some basic assumptions, and proceeds onward

11:24 <wdsmia> lol

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12:45 <CoderForLife> Happy "Spring Forward" Daylight Saving Time Day

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12:57 <CoderForLife> hmm

12:57 <CoderForLife> we're missing the global notice

12:57 <CoderForLife> Notice from christel: [Global Notice] Hi all! I am about to take down services for a tiny while to update it to the latest revision, while it's gone there will be NO services (nickserv, chanserv etc) -- downtime should be, er, hopefully a few minutes only, I will let you know when services are back up! Thank you for using freenode and have a great day!

12:59 <PovAddict> I see some grammer mistakes on the notice

13:00 <PovAddict> /typos/missing words

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13:00 <PovAddict> "for a tiny" may be "a tiny bit" or "a tiny moment" or something like that

13:01 <PovAddict> I got eclipse working btw

13:01 <CoderForLife> the phrase was "for a tiny while", rather than "for a tiny bit"

13:01 <PovAddict> oh...

13:01 <PovAddict> it looked like two mistakes...

13:01 <CoderForLife> not too grammatically wrong

13:02 <PovAddict> it looked to me like "for a tiny" missing a word, and "while to update" with one word too much

13:02 <PovAddict> ^^

13:02 <CoderForLife> uh-huh

13:02 <CoderForLife> you need to upgrade your parser

13:03 <PovAddict> indeed

13:03 <CoderForLife> yum -y update EnglishParser.PovAddict

13:04 * PovAddict runs apt-get update on his iPod

13:04 <CoderForLife> I'm wondering why the Global Update didn't show up on #boinc

13:04 <PovAddict> somebody ported apt to it :)

13:05 <CoderForLife> I have no aptitude for it

13:06 * CoderForLife continues conversion of his 1997 Borland C++ 3.1 code to VC++ 2008 Express

13:06 <CoderForLife> I'm slaying DOS-ism dragons

13:06 <PovAddict> http://www.zbxt.net/~aero/syntax.jpg

13:07 <CoderForLife> lol

13:08 <CoderForLife> that's worse, I've used that exact CD driver

13:08 <CoderForLife> *what's

13:08 <PovAddict> pirating may be bad

13:08 <PovAddict> but it seems a thousand times *easier* than getting it legally

13:09 <CoderForLife> cheaper, too

13:09 <PovAddict> I'd pay for it as long as it doesn't involve getting off my butt and going to a brick-and-mortar shop

13:09 <CoderForLife> I'm still exhausted from yesterday

13:09 <PovAddict> and as long as it's not ridiculously expensive

13:09 <PovAddict> Amazon mp3 is US only!

13:10 <Romulus> Rom is handling the Linux and Windows build plus coding.

13:10 * CoderForLife computes how much snow got moved yesteday

13:10 <PovAddict> tell me in tons, so it's not such a big number

13:13 <CoderForLife> I don't know it in tons, but it was on the order of 3000 cubic feet

13:13 <CoderForLife> 1 foot deep by 12 feet wide by 250 foot of driveway

13:13 <CoderForLife> &math convert

13:13 <Romulus> CoderForLife: (math convert [<number>] <unit> to <other unit>) -- Converts from <unit> to <other unit>. If number isn't given, it defaults to 1. For unit information, see 'units' command.

13:14 <CoderForLife> &math convert 3000 cu ft to cu meter

13:14 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Error: cu is not a valid unit.

13:14 <PovAddict> &math units volume

13:14 <Romulus> PovAddict: volume units: cc, cubic centimeter, liter, L, litre, deciliter, centiliter, milliliter, mL, dekaliter, hectoliter, kiloliter, kL, cubic meter, megaliter, gallon, gal, quart, qt, pint, pt, fluid ounce, fl oz, ounce fluid, cup, tablespoon, tbsp, teaspoon, tsp, barrel, bbl, shot, fifth, wine bottle, magnum, keg, bushel, peck, cord, board foot, board feet

13:14 <CoderForLife> &math convert 3000 cubic feet to cubic meter

13:14 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Error: cubic is not a valid unit.

13:14 * PovAddict doesn't see cubic feet on the list

13:15 <PovAddict> &math calc [math convert 1 foot cm] * [math convert 12 foot cm] * [math convert 250 foot cm]

13:15 <Romulus> PovAddict: 84950539.776

13:15 <PovAddict> 84950539 cm2

13:16 <PovAddict> &math convert 84950539 cc "cubic meter"

13:16 <Romulus> PovAddict: 84.950539

13:16 <CoderForLife> a big bunch

13:19 <PovAddict> &math convert 1 "big bunch" to "cubic meter"

13:19 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: bigbunch is not a valid unit.

13:19 <PovAddict> bah

13:20 <PovAddict> eclipse cdt seems to be working okay...

13:20 <PovAddict> I have yet to try the debugger

13:25 <CoderForLife> now we hear something

13:25 <CoderForLife> VC++ 2008 is throwing errors and warnings like a champ

13:27 <PovAddict> debugger: total failure

13:27 <PovAddict> gdb says "you can't do that wihout a process to debug"

13:27 <PovAddict> I don't know what "that" is

13:28 <PovAddict> or why eclipse isn't passing a process to debug

13:29 <CoderForLife> it's tired?

13:29 <CoderForLife> not in it's job description?

13:29 <CoderForLife> on vacation?

13:29 <CoderForLife> the dog ate the process?

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14:28 <CoderForLife> The dog seems to have eaten #boinc

14:29 <PovAddict> I got the debugger to work

14:29 <CoderForLife> turn it loose on your IRC connection

14:29 <CoderForLife> btw, congrats

14:30 <PovAddict> http://status.nearlyfreespeech.net/

14:30 <Romulus> Title: NearlyFreeSpeech.NET Offsite Network Status Monitor (at status.nearlyfreespeech.net)

14:30 * CoderForLife is undergoing case after case of "what did I intend for this Code to do ten years ago?"

14:33 <CoderForLife> ouch ouch ouch

14:34 <PovAddict> sounds like something you'll !love to have happen to you

14:34 <PovAddict> note boolean negation operator

14:34 <CoderForLife> we've er, "found* single points of failure before

14:36 <CoderForLife> one time we were demoing our first company web site at our convention, and instructed the vendor we were using at the time to not touch the server that day (*Big* rollout).  They decided one hour before the demo to take the server down.

14:36 <CoderForLife> They forgot.

14:37 <CoderForLife> And they got fired.

14:37 <PovAddict> I think it was Einstein who said "There are only two things that are infinite: the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not even so sure about the universe."

14:37 <CoderForLife> right-o

14:38 <CoderForLife> I don't remember ever screaming quite like I did at them on the phone.

14:39 * CoderForLife is getting tired of fooling with date conversions

14:43 <PovAddict> <Jessicatz> I wasnt removing a sdl_timer and thus it tried to access memory that was deallocated

14:43 <PovAddict> <rnx> the beauty of C

14:43 <PovAddict> <Jessicatz> yea, C is really awesCaught SIGSEGV: Aborted.

14:43 <Romulus> but the memory is $130 now and very slippery..

14:45 <CoderForLife> lol

14:45 <CoderForLife> I have to get to a clean compile before I can segfault

14:46 <CoderForLife> I produced quite a bit of Code in 1997 and 1998

14:46 <CoderForLife> too bad it didn't pay off

15:02 * CoderForLife slowly finds and fixes clocks in the house

15:04 * xcamel_away is back.

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15:04 <xcamel> re-hi

15:05 <PovAddict> hey

15:05 <PovAddict> wb

15:07 <CoderForLife> hello Jay

15:08 <CoderForLife> need some White Death up there?

15:08 <xcamel> got plenty - and ice.

15:08 <CoderForLife> I'm stacked up 12 inches deep

15:08 <Romulus> Sucks power though... Max power of 171W.

15:09 <xcamel> took over 24 hours to get home from St T.

15:09 <CoderForLife> ouch

15:10 <PovAddict> *sneeze*

15:10 * CoderForLife curses the #defines in VC++ that overlap his names

15:10 <PovAddict> ow by doze

15:11 <CoderForLife> I was there first - why do I have to rename mine??

15:11 <CoderForLife> pOpt->SearchPath.Data

15:12 <CoderForLife> SearchPath is a VC++ define

15:12 <PovAddict> SearchPath is a define?

15:12 <CoderForLife> sux

15:12 <PovAddict> #undef SearchPath :)

15:12 <CoderForLife> lol

15:12 <CoderForLife> sure, np =)

15:12 <PovAddict> #define EVIL_WORKAROUND 1

15:13 <CoderForLife> *VC++ dissolves*

15:13 <PovAddict> I bet it's the usual thing from WinAPI

15:13 <PovAddict> #ifdef UNICODE

15:13 <PovAddict> #define SearchPath SearchPathW

15:13 <PovAddict> #else

15:13 <PovAddict> #define SearchPath SearchPathA

15:14 <CoderForLife> lemme see

15:14 <CoderForLife> yeah - it's SearchPathW

15:14 <CoderForLife> and that is...

15:14 <PovAddict> well, if you aren't going to use the SearchPath function, #undef it :)

15:15 <PovAddict> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa365527(VS.85).aspx

15:15 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1e_P> (at msdn2.microsoft.com)

15:15 <CoderForLife> I only used my SeachPath in 154 places

15:16 <PovAddict> yeah but is that your SearchPath or the Windows API function?

15:16 <CoderForLife> all of the 154 are instances of my variable

15:16 <CoderForLife> but

15:16 <CoderForLife> I am not such yet how all this will map over onto VC++

15:17 <PovAddict> if you haven't used the SearchPath Windows API function anywhere, VC++ won't even notice

15:21 <CoderForLife> I haven't Coded anything to the Windows API yet - just trying to sling this old DOS code into a console app as a first step

15:21 <PovAddict> hmm

15:22 <CoderForLife> trying to convince it not to use registers and call DOS

15:22 <PovAddict> then I wonder why that define is bothering you at all... if you aren't using windows api at all yet, you probably aren't #including <windows.h>

15:22 <PovAddict> or are you?

15:22 <CoderForLife> or insert a Critical Error Handler, or intercept CTRL-C

15:22 <CoderForLife> I have to include windows.h for a console app

15:23 <CoderForLife> I still have to talk to the OS

15:23 <CoderForLife> It has things I want, like the keyboard, screen, files, and other stuff

15:23 <PovAddict> I use stdio for files :)

15:24 <CoderForLife> I am reading spreadsheets and databases in their native formats

15:24 <PovAddict> :o

15:24 <CoderForLife> yes, stdio is certainly involved

15:24 <CoderForLife> yup, you understand

15:24 <CoderForLife> my program opens Excel files and Access databases directly

15:25 <CoderForLife> and a whole bunch of other formats

15:25 <Romulus> combine the 2 hydrogen attams and produce healem

15:26 <CoderForLife> yes Rommie, it can do that, too

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15:26 <CoderForLife> wb BiteAbleKat

15:31 <CoderForLife> looks like I can avoid modifying my vanilla VC++ config if I rename my SearchPath.Data, SearchPath.cntCur and SearchPath.cntMax references

15:32 * CoderForLife changes definition to "ThisSearchPath"

15:34 <CoderForLife> done

15:49 <xcamel> back again

15:49 <xcamel> going from 85 to 25 is not too nice.

15:50 <wdsmia> wb Jay

15:51 <xcamel> thanks

15:52 <wdsmia> btw you need to look at Rommies weather

15:52 <wdsmia> &weather 50319

15:52 <Romulus> wdsmia: The current temperature in Drake Neighborhood, Des Moines, Iowa is 34.7F (2:51 PM CDT on March 09, 2008). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 19.4F. Windchill: 28.4F. Pressure: 30.23 in 1023.6 hPa (Steady).

15:52 <xcamel> not working?

15:52 <Romulus> has anybody else here run Rosetta recently?

15:52 <PovAddict> giving out random cities that don't match zipcode, apparently

15:52 <PovAddict> &weather buenos aires

15:52 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

15:52 <xcamel> that's odd..

15:53 <wdsmia> no forcast only current weather

15:55 <CoderForLife> thermal whiplash?

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16:04 * Tank_Master slaps Romulus around a bit with a large trout

16:05 <Tank_Master> how can you forcast the current weather?

16:05 <Tank_Master> it just displays the current

16:06 <PovAddict> &weather 45140

16:06 <Romulus> PovAddict: The current temperature in Loveland OH - Miami Township Clermont County, Loveland, Ohio is 41.5F (4:05 PM EDT on March 09, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 24.8F. Windchill: 41.0F. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa (Falling).

16:06 <PovAddict> that better, CoderForLife?

16:07 <Tank_Master> thats no waether forcast

16:08 <CoderForLife> nope

16:08 <Tank_Master> thats just the current conditions

16:08 <Tank_Master> I think the weather plugin has been changed

16:08 * CoderForLife casts a glance at his wather station

16:08 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: but is it the correct place at least?

16:09 <Tank_Master> yeah, that part worked for me

16:09 <CoderForLife> Gives the city, rather than someone's farm

16:09 <CoderForLife> I was occasionally getting "Loveland", but mostly "Mitchell Farm", iirc

16:10 <PovAddict> yup

16:10 <nickuwo> anybody have any excperience with GMP?

16:10 <xcamel> not sire what happened to that one..

16:11 <xcamel> er not ssure even

16:11 <PovAddict> nickuwo: the bignum library?

16:11 <CoderForLife> someone has pulled a switcheroo under Rommie

16:11 <nickuwo> yea

16:11 <PovAddict> nope, never used it

16:11 <PovAddict> I know what it is, and that's it :)

16:12 <nickuwo> :) bummer

16:12 <nickuwo> no #gmp channel either

16:12 <nickuwo> you think mweltin is working with that?

16:14 <nickuwo> the more I think about it, the more both our projects seem very similar...

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16:15 <CoderForLife> VC++ 2008 has an editor display bug

16:15 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

16:15 <Romulus> CoderForLife: The current temperature in Loveland OH - Miami Township Clermont County, Loveland, Ohio is 41.4F (4:15 PM EDT on March 09, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 24.8F. Windchill: 41.0F. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa (Falling).

16:16 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

16:16 <Romulus> CoderForLife: The current temperature in Loveland OH - Miami Township Clermont County, Loveland, Ohio is 41.4F (4:15 PM EDT on March 09, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 24.8F. Windchill: 41.0F. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa (Falling).

16:16 <CoderForLife> at least that part seems consistent now

16:17 <PovAddict> &weather 45140

16:17 <Romulus> PovAddict: The current temperature in Loveland OH - Miami Township Clermont County, Loveland, Ohio is 41.4F (4:15 PM EDT on March 09, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 24.8F. Windchill: 41.0F. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa (Falling).

16:17 <PovAddict> 3/3

16:18 <PovAddict> hard to code with a dripping nose <.<

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16:25 <CoderForLife> thanks for that, PovAddict

16:26 * CoderForLife does yet another search for "_dos_findfirst"

16:37 * CoderForLife waddles off to dinner

16:37 <CoderForLife> bbl

16:43 <nickuwo> does anyone know anything about the parse_file method in sched_config.h?

16:44 <PovAddict> it's defined in sched_config.C - does that count as knowing something about it?

16:45 <nickuwo> hmm, maybe

16:46 <PovAddict> how about asking an actual question :)

16:47 <nickuwo> so I'm getting a [CRITICAL] can't find config file when I run both my own and the sample work generator... they are both in bin/  and that error message comes from parse_file returning an error

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16:48 <nickuwo> I tried passing "~/projects/ramsey/" to parse_file instead of ".." which it originally was

16:48 <nickuwo> to no avail

16:48 <PovAddict> you mean in the log file or are you running them manually?

16:48 <nickuwo> both

16:48 <PovAddict> how are you running it manually?

16:48 <PovAddict> ./bin/workgen?

16:49 <nickuwo> ./bin/sample_workgenerator

16:49 <PovAddict> fail

16:49 <PovAddict> current directory has to be bin

16:49 <PovAddict> cd bin; ./workgen

16:49 <nickuwo> i c

16:49 <PovAddict> also, ~ is expanded by the shell, so it won't work

16:49 <nickuwo> so ".."

16:49 <nickuwo> o

16:49 <PovAddict> yep that's why it uses ..

16:49 <nickuwo> so when I run it from ramsey/ it reads ".." and goes to /projects/

16:50 <PovAddict> yep and you don't have a /projects/config.xml :)

16:50 <nickuwo> right :)

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17:11 <nickuwo> so Pov... :) I've instantiated two gmp's right, call them start and million... I want to print start to an input file, then add it to million, and print it on the next line. I've been trying to use fprintf like in the example and also ofstream myFile, myFile.write() etc... but with no luck. What method/s would you suggest?

17:12 <PovAddict> I never used gmp

17:12 <efc> gmp the numerics package?

17:13 <nickuwo> I believe they have toString methods tho, so can't I just fprintf(start);?

17:13 <PovAddict> yes

17:13 <efc> I compiled something with it once, long ago..

17:13 <nickuwo> did you use the c++ wrappers?

17:13 <efc> Wrote straight c

17:13 <nickuwo> ahh

17:14 <nickuwo> how do you print them to a file>

17:14 <efc> Was going to do some factoring algorithms but my ideas were garbage

17:14 <Romulus> nificant savings in area and power but low number of individual reactions going up

17:14 <efc> I just printed to screen. I think there was some function to give you a null terminated string of some sort.

17:14 <nickuwo> ok

17:15 <efc> I don't remember having any problems with printing.

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17:35 <xcamel> back again, again.

17:35 <efc> Moo

17:37 <xcamel> 'lo Ed

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17:39 <xcamel> anyway - we were supposed to be home yesterday around 9 PM - got in today at 12:15

17:39 <xcamel> flights were all messed up...

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17:47 <bryanUC> xcamel: where were you trying to go?

17:48 <bryanUC> we're still digging out here, so I'm not surprised things were messed up...got 20" in columbus

17:51 <xcamel> Home, from St Thomas, USVI

17:52 <xcamel> wish I could remember how to fix that stupid weather plugin

17:53 <efc> Rommy decided I live in Greensboro

17:53 <efc> &weather 30625

17:53 <Romulus> efc: The current temperature in Greensboro, Georgia is 57.2F (5:40 PM EDT on March 09, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 23.0F. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026 hPa (Falling).

17:53 <Romulus> *same to you to answer all these little enzymes that do only one choice no

17:54 <efc> The zip is actually for Buckhead, about 20 miles closer

18:04 <xcamel> still working on it..

18:28 <PovAddict> &weather 30625

18:28 <Romulus> PovAddict: The current temperature in Greensboro, Georgia is 57.2F (6:20 PM EDT on March 09, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 23.0F. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Falling).

18:29 <Tank_Master> &weather boring

18:29 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

18:29 <Tank_Master> &weather boring, or

18:29 <Romulus> Tank_Master: The current temperature in Near Damascus Christian School/Community Church, Damascus, Oregon is 61.5F (3:28 PM PDT on March 09, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 39.2F. Pressure: 30.18 in 1021.9 hPa (Falling).

18:30 <PovAddict> o.o

18:31 <Tank_Master> yes, theres a city in oregon called boring

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18:53 <xcamel> &ham 30625

18:53 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: No such location could be found.

18:53 <xcamel> &cnn 30625

18:53 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

18:54 <PovAddict> geez

18:55 <xcamel> maybe MT can fix that stupid weather plugin

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19:11 <nickuwo> why is it when I run apps in eclipse, their output shows up iun the terminal window, but when I run them from an actual terminal, I get no output?

19:12 <nickuwo> pid

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20:40 <deprecated> &weather 98038

20:40 <Romulus> deprecated: The current temperature in Maple Valley, Maple Valley, Washington is 56.5F (5:40 PM PDT on March 09, 2008). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 35.6F. Pressure: 30.17 in 1021.6 hPa (Steady).

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