IRC logs of #boinc for Tuesday, 2008-03-18

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01:23 <Soul_keeper> what's with all the talking ?

01:24 <Wabbit67> we just love to talk

01:24 <zombie67> I *know*!  On and on it goes!

01:24 <Wabbit67> it never ends

01:25 <zombie67> damn new yorkers

01:26 <Wabbit67> ?

01:26 <Soul_keeper> gimme money so i can retire

01:26 <Wabbit67> the government should give me free money to sit on my ass

01:27 <Soul_keeper> you might get your wish, seems everyone wants that these days

01:27 <Soul_keeper> of course the government will then own you

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01:33 <tricaric> hello

01:33 <Wabbit67> the talking just won't stop

01:40 <Tank_Master> hi

01:40 <Wabbit67> its our Lord and Master

01:40 * Tank_Master slaps Wabbit67 around a bit with a large trout

01:40 <Wabbit67> I have been touched

01:46 <zombie67> ick

01:50 <Soul_keeper> you gonna touch him back ?

01:50 <Romulus> the elixir of Life

01:50 <Wabbit67> of course not

01:50 <Wabbit67> I am going to report to the proper authroities

01:51 <Soul_keeper> that's boring tho

01:55 <Tank_Master> heh

01:56 <zombie67> can anyone see this?

01:56 <Romulus> <> (at

01:57 <Soul_keeper> yes

01:57 <Tank_Master> using?

01:57 <zombie67> thanks.

01:57 <zombie67> TM, it's YOU

01:57 <zombie67> ;)

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01:57 <Tank_Master> not nessicarrly

01:58 <Tank_Master> then why would work?

01:58 <zombie67> wdsmia_ can you see this?

01:58 <Romulus> <> (at

01:58 <Romulus> <> (at

01:58 <Tank_Master> lol

01:58 <Romulus> is project in production?

01:58 <Tank_Master> no

01:59 <Tank_Master> its in beta, like any software is

01:59 <Tank_Master> especually linux

01:59 <Tank_Master> or Mac

01:59 <zombie67> define "beta"

01:59 <Tank_Master> or Windows

01:59 <zombie67> that 3 people will agree to

01:59 <Tank_Master> something that gets improved appon, and has bigs that get fixed

02:00 <Tank_Master> bugs*

02:00 <Wabbit67> beta is always awesome

02:00 <Tank_Master> yep

02:00 <zombie67> "As long as there are two people left in the world, there will be an argument. Period." -- Todd Sabin (summer 1989)  "I don't agree." -- Scott Hill (later that same year)

02:01 <zombie67> "Bigamy is having one wife too many.  Monogamy is the same." -- Oscar Wilde

02:01 <Wabbit67> I disagree with zombie

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04:28 <CoderForLife> hello

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04:29 <efc> Moo

04:30 <CoderForLife> hello Eddie

04:31 <CoderForLife> how's efc this morning

04:32 <efc> pretty good, setting up accounts and junk like that..

04:32 <CoderForLife> Coding, like Genius, is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration

04:32 <efc> I use 99% Desperation

04:32 <CoderForLife> lol

04:33 <CoderForLife> yeah, that's the OTHER 99% of the job

04:33 <efc> i'm doing "make you cry" stuff at work right now

04:33 <tricaric> hi

04:34 <efc> moo tricaric

04:34 <tricaric> I have a problem: I'm generating WUs

04:34 <tricaric> but when they get to the client, after about 12 seconds running they abort with:

04:34 <tricaric> Tue 18 Mar 2008 01:30:07 AM MST|orbit@home|Aborting task wu_1205828707_4_2: exceeded CPU time limit 12.448595

04:34 * CoderForLife sees an on-topic topic coming

04:34 <tricaric> what do I need to change?

04:35 <tricaric> the WU should take about 1 hr on a modern system

04:36 <CoderForLife> hmm

04:37 <CoderForLife> is the client getting stuck in a loop, because of the data?

04:37 <tricaric> don't think so

04:37 <CoderForLife> is this happening will all WUs to all clients?

04:38 <CoderForLife> with* all

04:38 <CoderForLife> when did it start occuring?

04:40 <tricaric> it's a new app, just trying to make it run, and still fighting with all sorts of problems... it never run correctly yet

04:44 <CoderForLife> I would need a dev to tell me what "exceeded CPU time limit" means for sure, but I'm guessing that the program is looping or not calling the BOINC client mainline code often enough, and the BOINC client kills it

04:45 <tricaric> OK, found the problem: didn't set the flops bound with <rsc_fpops_bound> ... </rsc_fpops_bound>

04:45 <CoderForLife> there ya go

04:45 <tricaric> took me a while... I'm happy now! :-D

04:46 <CoderForLife> I've had 0.01 work done with orbit =)

04:47 <CoderForLife> always helps to talk it out

04:48 <tricaric> yes, absolutely, thanks!

04:50 <CoderForLife> np - glad I could listen

04:53 <yoyo_RKN> moin

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05:02 <efc> mourning

05:05 <CoderForLife> moin-ing

05:09 * KathrynM is back (gone 05:36:32)

05:11 <efc> CNN was all set up for a big meltdown yesterday..

05:12 <efc> tends to happen when you write the story before it happens

05:18 <CoderForLife> "Dewey Wins!"

05:18 <CoderForLife> "Al Gore Takes Florida!"

05:18 <efc> Hail To The Chief Baby

05:20 <CoderForLife> well, with KathrynM now on to assume my guard post, I shall start getting ready for work

05:20 <flight17> what fake news is CNN skewing now?

05:20 * CoderForLife tags KathrynM

05:20 * KathrynM falls over

05:20 <CoderForLife> market meltdown, efc?

05:21 <efc> Yeah, they had something like "markets massively down" ,  look over at the ticker and its at +5

05:22 <CoderForLife> they weren't the only ones - M$NBC was much the same

05:22 <CoderForLife> any-whey

05:22 <CoderForLife> offen vit me

05:23 <efc> Predict disaster, and eventually you'll be right

05:23 <efc> Later CFL

05:23 * CoderForLife waves

05:26 <flight17> ta ta

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05:58 <CoderForLife> then KathrynM was alone in a crowded room

06:00 <KathrynM> you disturbed the quiet :)

06:00 <CoderForLife> &quiet

06:00 <Romulus> Shhhhh... Day Sleepers

06:00 <KathrynM> it was a very long afternoon.

06:00 * KathrynM wishes the pizza guy would hurry up

06:00 <CoderForLife> sorry to disturb you, Day Sleeper

06:00 <KathrynM> hehe 7 PM here

06:00 <KathrynM> Tuesdays suck

06:00 <KathrynM> I basically don't sit down between 1 and 6

06:00 <CoderForLife> "Korean pizza torture"

06:01 <CoderForLife> making you wait

06:01 <KathrynM> horrible

06:01 <CoderForLife> 6am - off to w@#% early

06:01 <KathrynM> ugh

06:01 <KathrynM> that's inhumane

06:02 <CoderForLife> yeah... I did say it was w@#%...

06:02 <CoderForLife> you were expecting...

06:02 <KathrynM> true

06:02 <CoderForLife> so - off I go

06:02 <CoderForLife> tc

06:02 <Romulus> yeah i only get to the amount of memory?

06:03 * KathrynM considers removing Romulus' memory

06:03 * CoderForLife disappears in a cloud of greasy black smoke

06:36 <clusty> so whats new in the boinc world?

06:38 <KathrynM> nothing much over in this corner

06:39 <clusty> btw did my scrabble turn

06:39 <clusty> seems you are moping the floor with me this game

06:39 <clusty> i should know better than messing with english teachers when it comes to scrabble

06:39 <KathrynM> I'm getting my butt kicked by my coworkers.

06:40 <clusty> if they are korean its shamefull

06:40 <clusty> :D

06:40 <KathrynM> nah.  The native speaking ones

06:42 <clusty> how many of those are there?

06:42 <KathrynM> There's 8 of us.

06:42 <clusty> and how many korean english teachers?

06:42 <clusty> :D

06:43 <KathrynM> 10 I think

06:43 <Romulus> I've searched BOINC docs for this Code to do it somewhere out of the BOINC Manager stores a hidden file?

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06:49 <clusty> well i did my turn ages ago

06:49 <clusty> :D

06:50 <KathrynM> your turn

06:56 <hawmps> spork

06:59 <clusty> you have a really annoying playing style :)

06:59 <clusty> never give me any expansion chances

07:00 <KathrynM> that cause all the letters i have suck

07:00 <clusty> likewise

07:01 <clusty> never saw this many 2 letter words

07:01 <KathrynM> lol

07:01 <clusty> dont even what half of them mean

07:01 <clusty> :D

07:01 <clusty> even ones i am using

07:01 <KathrynM> :)

07:01 <clusty> done btw

07:03 <KathrynM> go for it

07:05 <clusty> done

07:05 <KathrynM> ok'

07:07 <clusty> k

07:07 <KathrynM> k

07:12 <clusty> k

07:13 <KathrynM> k

07:14 <clusty> there: have a taste of your own poison

07:15 <KathrynM> lol

07:15 <KathrynM> go

07:15 <clusty> k

07:16 <KathrynM> have fun

07:18 <clusty> k

07:19 <hawmps> virtual scrabble?

07:19 <KathrynM> on facebook

07:19 <KathrynM> go

07:22 <hawmps> ah..

07:23 <clusty> done

07:23 <hawmps> social networking is an oxymoron

07:24 <KathrynM> go clusty

07:25 <KathrynM> scrabble on FB is just a time sink :)

07:25 <clusty> done

07:26 <KathrynM> k

07:28 <clusty> k

07:29 <clusty> this game sucked

07:30 <KathrynM> my brain hurts

07:30 <KathrynM> go, btw

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07:39 <clusty> what do you say i procleaim you winner and we do another one

07:39 <clusty> ?

07:39 <KathrynM> pass your turn

07:40 <clusty> did

07:40 <KathrynM> ok I passed

07:40 <KathrynM> I think you need to pass now

07:40 <clusty> y

07:41 * KathrynM wonders how many times we have to pass

07:42 <clusty> y

07:42 <clusty> think forever

07:42 <KathrynM> lol

07:42 <KathrynM> I think it's 3 passes

07:42 <clusty> lets just finish it

07:42 <clusty> 20 tile sleft

07:42 <clusty> means at most 10 turns

07:43 <clusty> stop doing turns

07:44 <clusty> play normally

07:45 <KathrynM> ok go

07:48 <clusty> d

07:48 <KathrynM> k

07:50 <clusty> d

07:50 <clusty> 12 tiles left

07:50 <clusty> now game starts catching some momentum,

07:51 <KathrynM> k

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07:54 <clusty> d

07:55 <KathrynM> k

07:58 <clusty> k

07:59 <KathrynM> k

08:01 <clusty> k

08:01 <KathrynM> k

08:03 <clusty> damn

08:03 <clusty> that was my Q

08:03 <clusty> :D

08:04 <KathrynM> lol

08:04 <clusty> k

08:04 <clusty> and btw the dictionary of allowed words sux

08:05 <KathrynM> I know

08:05 <clusty> k

08:06 <clusty> names should not be accepted

08:07 <KathrynM> k

08:07 <clusty> k

08:08 <KathrynM> k

08:09 <clusty> k

08:10 <KathrynM> k

08:12 <desti> denied

08:14 <clusty> now what?

08:14 <clusty> i cant see any more words

08:15 <KathrynM> pass?

08:15 <Romulus> all stupid rpcs blocked by a few quick questions?

08:16 <clusty> d

08:19 <KathrynM> k

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08:30 <desti>

08:30 <Romulus> Title: The GSRPG Network v1.2 (at

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09:11 <wdsmia_w> &weather 50319

09:11 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 37.1F / 2.8C | Humidity: 97% | Pressure: 29.87in / 1011.4hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Today - Cloudy. Areas of dense fog early in the morning. Areas of fog in the late morning and early afternoon. Areas of drizzle until late afternoon. Visibility one quarter mile or less at times early in the morning. High in the mid 40s. (1 more message)

09:11 <wdsmia_w> &more

09:11 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Northwest wind near 5 mph increasing to 10 to 15 mph in the afternoon.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low in the lower 30s. Northwest wind around 10 mph.; Wednesday - Partly sunny. High in the lower 50s. Northwest wind around 10 mph.; Dense Fog Advisory for Polk County in effect until 10:00 AM CDT on March 18, 2008;

09:32 <PovAddic1> desti: I used to play IdleRPG...

09:32 <yoyo_RKN> &weather berlin, germany

09:32 <PovAddic1> I don't think I can play anymore with IRC disconnecting so often

09:32 <Romulus> yoyo_RKN: Temperature: 45°F / 7°C | Humidity: 43% | Pressure: 29.65in / 1004hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 16mph / 26km/h | Updated: 2:20 PM CET; Chance of Rain. High:39 F. / 4 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:28 F. / -2 C.; Chance of Rain. High:37 F. / 3 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:28 F. / -2 C.; Partly Cloudy. High:37 F. / 3 C.; Rain. Low:32 F. / 0 C.;

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12:33 <wdsmia_w> Annual Severe Weather Week Tornado Drill, Wednesday, April 9, 2008 at 10 am


12:33 <Romulus> I'm so excited I'm going to bed now

12:33 <wdsmia_w> rofl

12:37 <Tank_Master> heh

12:38 <wdsmia_w> This is NOT a drill but if it was....

13:01 <hawmps> This is NOT a drill... it is a screwdriver.

13:02 <Tank_Master> but you can still use it as though it was a drill...

13:13 * wdsmia_w slaps Tank_Master with whats left of his screwdriver

13:25 <Tank_Master> oww

13:25 <Tank_Master> damnit, that stop drilling me

13:26 <Tank_Master> hurt*

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14:37 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

14:37 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 50.7F / 10.4C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 29.93in / 1013.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Today - Rain. A chance of thunderstorms this afternoon. Rain may be heavy at times. Highs in the upper 50s. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Tonight - Rain with a chance of thunderstorms. Rain may be (2 more messages)

14:38 <CoderForLife> "rain may be 2 more messages"

14:38 <DerMeister> &more

14:38 <Romulus> DerMeister: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more.  To do so, call this command with that person's nick.

14:38 <CoderForLife> I am not familiar with that unit of measure

14:38 <CoderForLife> &more

14:38 <Romulus> CoderForLife: heavy at times. Lows in the mid 40s. Southeast winds around 10 mph... becoming southwest after midnight. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Wednesday - Rain with a chance of thunderstorms. Rain may be heavy at times. Morning highs in the upper 40s...then temperatures falling into the lower 40s in the afternoon. Northwest winds 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Areal Flood Watch for Hamilton (1 more message)

14:38 <CoderForLife> &more

14:38 <Romulus> CoderForLife: County in effect until 6:00 PM EDT on March 19, 2008;

14:39 <CoderForLife> "A real Flood Watch"

14:40 <bryanUC> lol

14:40 <bryanUC> I wonder if I have a fake flood watch

14:40 <bryanUC> &weather 43016

14:40 <Romulus> bryanUC: Temperature: 47.2F / 8.4C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 29.97in / 1014.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Rest of Today - A chance of rain through early afternoon...then rain redeveloping later this afternoon. Highs in the mid 50s. South winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Tonight - Rain with a chance of (2 more messages)

14:40 <bryanUC> &more

14:40 <Romulus> bryanUC: thunderstorms. Rain may be heavy at times. Lows in the upper 40s. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Wednesday - Rain with a chance of thunderstorms. Rain may be heavy at times. Morning highs in the lower 50s...then temperatures falling into the lower 40s in the afternoon. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Areal Flood Watch for (1 more message)

14:40 <bryanUC> &more

14:40 <Romulus> bryanUC: Franklin County in effect until 6:00 PM EDT on March 19, 2008;

14:40 <bryanUC> ah, mine is real too

14:40 <Tank_Master> lol

14:40 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

14:40 <Tank_Master> &more

14:40 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more.  To do so, call this command with that person's nick.

14:40 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 59.7F / 15.4C | Humidity: 66% | Pressure: 30.08in / 1018.5hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 6.0mph / 9.7km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers. Highs 50 to 55. West wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers. Lows 35 to 40. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph in the evening becoming light.; Wednesday - Showers (1 more message)

14:40 <Tank_Master> &more

14:40 <Romulus> Tank_Master: likely. Highs around 50. South wind 5 to 10 mph.;

14:41 <Tank_Master> Im seeing a patter here

14:42 <Tank_Master> its nice n sunny right now though

14:54 <hawmps> big damp and nasty moving in...

14:54 <Tank_Master> :)

14:54 <Tank_Master> the sun god is shining down on us

14:54 <hawmps> that was yesterday

14:57 <DerMeister> Here we had sun and snow in fast rotation today...

15:03 <Tank_Master> snow?

15:03 <Romulus> Rumor has it snow is fun, Tank_Master

15:03 <Tank_Master> I havent seen snow in months

15:06 <Tank_Master> Rumor has it, your an idiot, Romulus

15:06 <Tank_Master> oh, wait, thats not rumor

15:09 <Tank_Master> &cad

15:09 <Romulus>

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15:59 <mweltin> &seen Mtughan

15:59 <Romulus> mweltin: Mtughan was last seen in #boinc 3 days, 16 hours, 44 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <MTughan> And shutting down the laptop.

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16:00 <Tank_Master> mw!

16:01 <yoyo[RKN]> hi mweltin

16:01 <mweltin> yoyo tank!

16:02 <mweltin> where is my mac guy Mtughan?

16:02 <mweltin> romie says he has been gone for 3 days.

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16:02 <yoyo[RKN]> mweltin : did you wrote a own validator?

16:02 <mweltin> yes

16:03 <yoyo[RKN]> I never did it

16:03 <yoyo[RKN]> I slight modified the sample_bitwise_validator

16:03 <mweltin> I used the simple API, it's not hard.

16:04 <mweltin> thats all I do,but I do more than slight modifications.

16:04 <mweltin> I added some database integration stuff.

16:05 <yoyo[RKN]> I will do the same

16:05 <Tank_Master> mweltin: have you seen crunch3r's comp?

16:06 <mweltin> the dual quad core from intel?

16:06 <Tank_Master> yeah...

16:06 <Tank_Master> he optimised the TSP app to...

16:06 <Tank_Master> ~40k/day

16:07 <mweltin> yeah, but that guy PaloM did well too with optimizations.

16:08 <mweltin> he must have take that guys mods.  STLport didn't do that well.

16:15 <xcamel> re-hi

16:19 <mweltin> hey x

16:20 <Tank_Master> yo

16:20 <DerMeister> ~40k credits per day? o_O I need about 10 month for this -.-

16:20 <Tank_Master> lol

16:24 <Tank_Master> well, it helks that its on a dual quad skulltrail system

16:24 <Tank_Master> (dual 45nm intel quads with 1600 FSB)

16:25 <Tank_Master> helps*

16:25 <DerMeister> nice one... well, all my machines together only have 3 simple cores... one p4, one p3 and one pentium m...

16:25 <Tank_Master> hehe

16:26 <Tank_Master> slow @$$ but its better than nothing

16:26 <DerMeister> :)

16:40 <xcamel> honest credit on my core 2 quad (64 bit) is 4180/day

16:42 <Tank_Master> not to bad

16:43 <Tank_Master> I can pull 2.75k on my duo

16:43 <xcamel> the 32 bit twin pulls 2800

16:44 <Tank_Master> 64bit helps for some projects

16:45 <DerMeister> for example primegrid and its sieving applications

16:46 <xcamel> reisel, qmc, abc

16:54 <Tank_Master> tsp

16:54 <Tank_Master> pg

16:55 <PovAddict> I never get more than 600 RAC using a dualcore and a pentium4

17:02 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: wanna join in idlerpg?

17:03 <CoderForLife> the sky is leaking

17:03 <PovAddict> rain?

17:03 <CoderForLife> deluge

17:03 <CoderForLife> monsoon

17:04 <CoderForLife> 100% humidity

17:04 <CoderForLife> Areal Flood

17:06 <xcamel> looks like some pretty severe rain..

17:06 <xcamel> I am about this ][ close to ordering a modbook...

17:07 <Romulus> pidgin crashed when you make workunits take 2 hours

17:09 <yoyo[RKN]> software prerequisits mentions: Graphics libraries: GL, GLU, GLUT (or freeglut). Is freeglut sufficient or do I need more?

17:09 <xcamel> freeglut or mesa will work

17:11 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: to compile your own app?

17:11 <PovAddict> you don't need it unless the app has OpenGL graphics

17:11 <yoyo[RKN]> yes

17:11 <xcamel> or any of the 'usual suspect' OpenGL libs

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17:12 <yoyo[RKN]> configure --disable_client displayed a warning about missing libglut

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17:12 <PovAddict> that's right, a warning

17:12 <e-30> hey

17:12 <e-30> hey pov

17:13 <PovAddict> "you won't be able to compile apps that use OpenGL graphics"

17:13 <PovAddict> hey e-30

17:13 <mweltin> hey PovAddict !

17:13 <e-30> well i got my quad up and running now i am so happy

17:13 <e-30> man you got to watercool this one at stock

17:13 <PovAddict> I got into IdleRPG again

17:13 <e-30> i am running 43 c right now on water

17:14 <PovAddict> character name: 'transitioner', the BOINC daemon

17:14 <PovAddict> didn't bother thinking of something better

17:15 <DerMeister> lol... is there a feeder, too? :P

17:15 <e-30> lol

17:16 <e-30> well it been a long time sence i been here

17:16 <PovAddict> I might make another with character class "Flying Spaghetti Monster"

17:16 <DerMeister> *G*

17:16 <e-30> lol

17:16 <PovAddict> I need a name

17:16 <xcamel> 'lo e

17:17 <PovAddict>

17:17 <Romulus> <> (at

17:17 <Romulus> and he has the same file, the client getting stuck nickuwo?

17:17 <e-30> hey x camel gow are things going for you bnow

17:20 <CoderForLife> "There has been .97\rdblquote  of rain as of 11 AM and at this rate, we\rquote ll have 2 to 3 inches across the area by evening, with another 2 to 3 inches likely overnight"

17:20 <xcamel> well enough..

17:20 <CoderForLife> hello E-30

17:20 <PovAddict> rdblquote?

17:20 <e-30> hey cfl how are you doing

17:20 <CoderForLife> that happens when you cut/paste HTML

17:20 <xcamel> cfl: calling Noah... Noah to the front desk please..

17:20 <PovAddict> it gets converted to RTF?

17:21 <e-30> lol

17:21 <CoderForLife> RTF what?

17:21 <xcamel> that must be a hell of a storm... my sinuses are killing me...

17:21 <DerMeister> rich text format

17:21 <e-30> where at this time

17:21 <xcamel> read the f....

17:22 <CoderForLife> not "read the f..."

17:22 <e-30> lol

17:22 <xcamel> great minds think alike..

17:22 <e-30> well getting married was a bad idea on my part

17:23 <CoderForLife> and great minds in the gutter do what?

17:23 <CoderForLife> married?

17:23 <e-30> thats scary to think about

17:23 <e-30> yea i got married in dec and now getting un married becuese she cheated on me

17:24 <CoderForLife> ack

17:24 <PovAddict> o_O

17:24 <CoderForLife> un-good

17:24 <e-30> oh well leave and learn i guess

17:24 <CoderForLife> down to the Coding Couch

17:24 <xcamel> already?

17:25 <e-30> yea

17:25 * CoderForLife climbs in the barrell and goes over the falls/steps

17:25 <e-30> lol

17:27 <PovAddict>

17:27 <Romulus> <> (at

17:30 <e-30> cool

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17:40 <xcamel> fire up the big pumps, Don..

17:53 <xcamel> >> Stocks Soar, Dow Rises 420 Points

17:53 <Tank_Master> sweet

17:54 <Tank_Master> some people arent going to be happy, others will be

17:54 <xcamel> some people are never ever going to be happy

17:54 <Tank_Master> true

17:55 <xcamel> hand them gold and they're mad it's not silver.

17:55 <Tank_Master> of that you didnt pay them to take the gold

17:55 <Tank_Master> or*

17:56 <PovAddict> well

17:56 <PovAddict> like I said on LHC forum

17:57 <PovAddict> complaints are like energy... can't destroy them, only convert them to other type of complaints

17:57 <Tank_Master> lol

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17:58 <xcamel> wb

17:59 <xcamel> inf - you're a mac guy, right?

17:59 <infinisoft> Nope ;)

18:00 <xcamel> oh.. sorry..

18:00 <infinisoft> Just windoze with some linux sprinkled on top

18:01 <xcamel> I know mikey is..

18:02 <xcamel> AC Clark passed away..

18:03 <xcamel> age 90

18:03 <mweltin> who?

18:04 <wdsmia_> re-hi

18:04 *** wdsmia_ is now known as wdsmia

18:05 <xcamel> A great SciFi writer...

18:06 <xcamel> 2001 space odyssey ...

18:06 <xcamel> and many, many others

18:08 <Tank_Master> 2001 what?

18:08 <Tank_Master> ;)

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18:09 <xcamel> ugh..

18:18 <Tank_Master> ?

18:20 * wdsmia slaps Tank_Master with a Tycho Magnetic Anomaly

18:21 * Tank_Master slaps xcamel around with a malformed script

18:31 <Romulus> Kicks Tank_Master in the techno-nads

18:33 <xcamel> 5bn shares traded today..

18:33 <xcamel> wow...

18:36 <PovAddict> the most legal casino

18:40 <xcamel> mostly due to a fed rate cut, and bargain hunting...

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18:48 <PovAddict> mweltin?

18:48 <Romulus> mweltin is not in da house, PovAddict

18:49 <PovAddict> there's some people spreading FUD to stay away from your project

18:49 <PovAddict> just because of that guy getting 5000RAC with his optimized app

18:49 <PovAddict> mweltin:

18:49 <Romulus> <> (at

18:49 <xcamel> there is always a downside

18:51 <zombie67> yeah, saw that

18:52 <xcamel> then, there are some people who are just jacka$$es

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18:55 <xcamel> 'lo bug

18:55 <bughunter3> hello, is there any good, detailed document about what exactly is calculated in all these folding@home a-like projects?

18:55 <bughunter3> lo :)

18:55 <xcamel> documentation?

18:55 <bughunter3> like, for cancer or alzheimer

18:55 <PovAddict> you mean all those protein folding projects?

18:55 <bughunter3> what exactly is done by the computers

18:55 <xcamel> you are kidding... right?

18:56 <PovAddict> frequently asked question in protein projects

18:56 <bughunter3> like?

18:56 <PovAddict> "what are you doing differently from the other dozen protein-related projects?"

18:56 <bughunter3> and how could computers do it?

18:56 <xcamel> that's where I would go..

18:57 <xcamel> by weeding through the 10^36 possible protien chains to find usefull ones that block bad things from happening...

18:57 <bughunter3> shouldn't diseases be studied by humans? what can computers do on this subject?

18:57 <bughunter3> okay

18:57 <bughunter3> so why is there so _MUCH_ computing power needed?

18:57 <PovAddict> computers don't "study diseases"

18:57 <bughunter3> PovAddict: true

18:57 <PovAddict> humans study diseases using computers as tools

18:57 <xcamel> that's it.. in a nutshell.

18:57 <Romulus> last weekend of winter..

18:58 <PovAddict> if you want the scientific details on what a project does, you should go to that particular project website/forum

18:58 <bughunter3> well yeah i know that

18:58 <bughunter3> but i'm more interested in the general overview of what computers do exactly

18:58 <PovAddict>

18:58 <Romulus> <> (at

18:58 <bughunter3> i'm reading it

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19:00 <bughunter3> so, BOINC is open-source, right?

19:00 <PovAddict> BOINC is

19:00 <PovAddict> Rosetta app isn't, as far as I know

19:01 <bughunter3> i wouldn't really suspect it for spyware though, but some people around me think it is spyware

19:01 <bughunter3> i'd like to point them to some docs perhaps

19:01 <PovAddict> well, BOINC definitely isn't spyware

19:01 <PovAddict> however, attaching to a project implies downloading a program for it

19:02 <PovAddict> it's in theory possible for somebody to make a "malicious project" where the "science app" is malware... but as long as you don't attach to every single new project that pops up, that definitely won't be a problem

19:02 <PovAddict> (it has never happened...)

19:03 <bughunter3> yeah

19:03 <PovAddict> all those big science projects backed by universities or other research institutes are safe

19:03 <xcamel> not yet anyway..

19:03 <xcamel> depspid is close though...

19:03 <bughunter3> i do not know enough about medical/biological stuff, but i do find it a bit weird that there is so much computing power needed

19:04 <PovAddict> well, take simap

19:04 <PovAddict> when you need to compare a thousand proteins against... all other 999

19:04 <PovAddict> it takes time :)

19:04 <bughunter3> :)

19:05 <bughunter3> so basically, most of these projects are about proteins?

19:05 <PovAddict> no

19:05 <PovAddict> there are many about proteins...

19:05 <PovAddict> or biology

19:05 <PovAddict> but there's also a bunch about maths (like prime searching)

19:05 <bughunter3> ah

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19:06 <bughunter3> who'd care about finding a prime? is it really _that_ useful?

19:06 <PovAddict> it's fun! :]

19:06 <xcamel> and plenty for space and particle physics..

19:06 <PovAddict> and remember this is 100000-digit primes

19:06 <bughunter3> heh, helping others is more "fun"

19:06 <bughunter3> :P

19:06 <nickuwo> cryptography

19:06 <xcamel> then goofy ones like TSP

19:07 <bughunter3> what's TSP? :P any link?

19:07 <xcamel> TSP?

19:07 <xcamel> hmm.. thought it was in the great data bank..

19:08 <PovAddict> Travelling Salesman Problem - not yet using any good algorithm...

19:08 <PovAddict> hey bughunter3, want a 712818-digit prime? :)

19:08 <mweltin> hey

19:08 <PovAddict>

19:08 <mweltin> I heard that

19:08 <bughunter3> PovAddict: i know they exist, but i really don't care

19:08 <PovAddict> lol

19:08 <bughunter3> lol @ the pdf

19:09 <PovAddict> 120 pages

19:09 <PovAddict> save trees - don't f***ing print that!!

19:09 <bughunter3> shit

19:09 <wdsmia> asks bughunter3 to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

19:09 <bughunter3> :O

19:09 <bughunter3> i right-clicked and pressed Print instead of Open

19:09 <xcamel>

19:09 <Romulus> Title: TSP (at

19:10 <PovAddict> mweltin: you heard what? the FUD?

19:10 <Tank_Master> I thought I smelled something

19:10 <xcamel> neck waders needed..

19:11 <PovAddict> it's interesting that I wrote about this kind of credit problem happening

19:11 <PovAddict> and a few days later it happens in TSP

19:11 <mweltin> not yet using any good algorithm...

19:11 <bughunter3> gotta go, bedtime

19:11 <bughunter3> bytes!

19:11 <PovAddict> mweltin:

19:11 <Romulus> <> (at

19:11 <bughunter3> err

19:11 <PovAddict> bye bughunter3

19:11 <bughunter3> cya :)

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19:11 <mweltin> yeah Idid find taht funny timing.

19:12 <mweltin> they should get a reward for fixing code.

19:12 <PovAddict> but there is the problem I "predicted"

19:12 <PovAddict> what if he sends you the app, and you put it officially? your project would grant way too much more than other projects

19:12 <PovAddict> so you reduce your fixed credits to match

19:13 <mweltin> then were is the motivation to help out.

19:13 <mweltin> I don't see it as a problem.

19:13 <PovAddict> then everybody gets the same credits for doing more computation than before

19:14 <PovAddict> and Palo M gets less credits than before he gave the app to you, losing motivation to contribute again

19:14 <mweltin> but the next app made by that project will be even better.

19:14 <PovAddict> </prediction>

19:14 <mweltin> I asked him if I could share it.

19:15 <mweltin> Crunch3r didn't want me to share his modifications at first.

19:15 <PovAddict> you can't leave the higher credits either, or DA would get his dictator hat and tell stats sites to lower you

19:15 <mweltin> he was in a chalenge

19:15 <zombie67> the only way to make DA happy is to discourage fixing/optimizing code

19:16 <mweltin> and then when i lower the credits what happens?  Do I get any warning about credits being lowered.  Or I could just increase the credtis again.

19:16 <Tank_Master> just give everyone 20x credit to spite DA

19:16 <PovAddict> well I meant lower credits per WU, not credits already granted

19:17 <mweltin> I must be over granting credits by now.

19:17 <Tank_Master> then complain that everyone else need to increase their credit to yours

19:17 <PovAddict> mweltin: you are, if Palo M's RAC is significant for the average

19:17 <zombie67> only a few have the opt app at this time

19:19 <xcamel> god forbid the real power of some of these boxes should be used...

19:20 <Tank_Master> like crunch3rs?

19:22 <mweltin> that sucks BF is the only app that works well and is so reliable.

19:23 <mweltin> I'm starting to see why public projects are hard to run.

19:23 <zombie67> mweltin:  it would be good to say something here

19:23 <Romulus> <> (at

19:23 <mweltin> boinc is perfect for the in house nextworks.

19:24 <zombie67> at least tell people that it is not cheating.

19:24 <mweltin> some people think it is cheating.

19:25 <PovAddict> those people can go crunch other projects if they don't like it

19:25 <PovAddict> what is bad is spreading "the project sucks! stay away from it!" on other forums

19:25 <Tank_Master> they only think its cheating because they dont have it

19:25 <Tank_Master> if they did and noone else, this they wouldnt think its cheating

19:25 <zombie67> "it must be cheating since it is so fast!

19:25 <zombie67> "

19:26 <Tank_Master> yep

19:26 <zombie67> brb

19:26 <Tank_Master> k

19:26 <PovAddict> Janus (BURP admin) once posted to the mailing list

19:26 <PovAddict> what would happen to his credits if he invented a custom piece of hardware that could do 1000 seti WUs a minute?

19:26 <Tank_Master> thats cheating

19:27 <PovAddict> no, he's doing more work

19:27 <Tank_Master> its unfair to the rest of the unedumicated folk

19:27 <Tank_Master> ;)

19:27 <PovAddict> if you hack your benchmarks to get more credits while you don't do more, that's cheating

19:27 <Tank_Master> I agree

19:27 <PovAddict> but if you do 2x the work, and get 2x the credit...

19:27 <Tank_Master> which is why I dont use "optimized" clients

19:28 <Tank_Master> but I will use optimized apps

19:28 <Romulus> but the core client and use the same eror.

19:28 <Tank_Master> only one project have I ever cheated in

19:28 <Tank_Master> BOIN Aloha

19:28 <Tank_Master> Alpha*

19:28 <PovAddict> Aloha lol

19:28 <Tank_Master> brb

19:29 <mweltin> mother F'er I can't believe this.

19:30 <zombie67> back

19:30 <xcamel> getting the 'burn' mw?

19:31 <mweltin> I made the mistake of thinking I could please everyone thats all.

19:31 <PovAddict> hint: stop the work generator daemons

19:31 <xcamel> welcome to the real world... damned if you do... damned if you don't.

19:31 <zombie67> reading about how lazy you are?

19:31 <mweltin> what for

19:31 <PovAddict> until forum complaints *and* your stress goes down :)

19:31 <mweltin> thats nothing new.

19:33 <mweltin> the BF is almost pointless app, I should just ditch it.

19:33 <Tank_Master> ib

19:34 <Tank_Master> NOO!! I want my uber crediz!

19:34 <Tank_Master> cus Im l33t!

19:34 <Tank_Master> heh, cant believe I jujst said that

19:34 * Tank_Master clears his history

19:34 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: and that's why you should never IRC while drunk

19:34 <xcamel> special project for the whiners...

19:35 <xcamel> %bmorons@home

19:35 <PovAddict> if you're drunk and say stupid things, nobody will remember next day

19:35 <Tank_Master> special project for the special folk

19:35 <PovAddict> but on IRC... everything is up there in the log

19:35 * KathrynM is back (gone 11:03:22)

19:35 <xcamel> 'lo K

19:35 <KathrynM> moanin'

19:35 <Tank_Master> crap

19:35 <Tank_Master> she's back

19:35 <PovAddict> hey KathrynM

19:35 * Tank_Master behaves now

19:35 <KathrynM> I love you too Tank_Master

19:35 <KathrynM> :)

19:35 <Tank_Master> lol

19:35 <PovAddict> remember my boinc credit scenario?

19:35 <PovAddict> about optimized apps

19:35 <KathrynM> Yup

19:35 <Tank_Master> how's the kids today?

19:35 <xcamel> ready to stomp the crumb-crunchers again?

19:36 <PovAddict> well exactly that has happened at TSP

19:36 <KathrynM> don't mention the K word

19:36 <PovAddict> I predicted the future!

19:36 <Tank_Master> fine

19:36 <xcamel> baaah...

19:36 <Tank_Master> how are the bratz today?

19:37 <xcamel> you only predicted that morons will expose themselves given half the chance..

19:37 <PovAddict> Kathryn would like to call them li'l germ boxes

19:37 <PovAddict> lol xcamel

19:37 <KathrynM> lol

19:37 <KathrynM> germ factories

19:37 <KathrynM> they pump them out like crazy

19:37 <xcamel> pleghmbots

19:37 <Tank_Master> LOL

19:37 <zombie67> oops.  Crunch3r is mad at pov

19:37 <Tank_Master> doh

19:37 <Tank_Master> what for?

19:37 <PovAddict> whur

19:38 <zombie67>

19:38 <Romulus> <> (at

19:38 <PovAddict> ah that

19:38 <Tank_Master> damn you pov, you pissed off crunch3r

19:38 <PovAddict> meh

19:38 <xcamel> chunch knows where we hang out..

19:38 <Tank_Master> (as if thats hard)

19:39 <xcamel> that happened to einstein too..

19:39 <xcamel> quite a while back...

19:39 <Tank_Master> cruncher got pissed?

19:39 <xcamel> he had a killer opp linux app

19:39 <xcamel> and took soo much heat for it he booby trapped it.

19:40 <Tank_Master> oh?

19:40 <Romulus> Rumor has it oh is it like SocialBorg, Tank_Master

19:40 <Tank_Master> stop that

19:40 <Tank_Master> xcamel: cant you get Romulus to stop saying crap like that?

19:40 <xcamel> yupper.. happens every time, when people let the cellar dwellers run the hen house

19:41 <xcamel> no, for the hundredth time, TM

19:41 <Tank_Master> how did he booby trap it?

19:41 <Tank_Master> well, why not?

19:41 <Tank_Master> :P

19:41 <xcamel> only he knows..

19:41 <Romulus> But yeah, you would still have 8h of time

19:41 <Tank_Master> I think I remember that

19:42 <xcamel> it's a long story, and I don't feel like typing it all out.

19:42 <xcamel> but project owners invariably cower to the moron sect of their clients...

19:42 <Tank_Master> We have an optimized app now for Einstine

19:43 <Tank_Master> sweet

19:43 <zombie67> squeaky wheel always wins

19:43 <Tank_Master> yep

19:43 <xcamel> not nearly what it was in the beginning...

19:43 <xcamel> squeaky wheels should be replaced.

19:43 <xcamel> or terminated.

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19:44 <zombie67> there are two problems with improving apps.  1)  DA will strike you down.  2)  people will claim cheating/unfair

19:44 <zombie67> the obvious solution is to make apps slower

19:44 <Tank_Master> LOL

19:44 <Tank_Master> or pnce you come out with an app, dont touch it for the gods might strike you down

19:45 <xcamel> fundamental with a Communist based application framework.

19:45 <Tank_Master> which berkeley is well knowen for and loves

19:45 <zombie67> that video about the marines is freaking hilarious....and sad.

19:45 <Tank_Master> and true

19:45 <Tank_Master> thats what makes it so sad

19:45 <zombie67>

19:45 <Romulus> <> (at

19:47 <PovAddict> I replied to crunch3r - I don't see why he starts complaining if I didn't even say *what* I mailed DA about

19:47 <xcamel> the same kind of people think they have a say over boinc projects..

19:48 <Tank_Master> he thinks you e-maild to DA complaining about the credits crunch3r is getting now

19:48 <PovAddict> yeah

19:48 <Tank_Master> thinking you e-mails him AFTER his app came out

19:48 <PovAddict> and that's not true

19:48 <PovAddict> I mailed DA after talking in #rieselsieve about *their* credits

19:48 <Tank_Master> yeah

19:49 <Tank_Master> and its something DA wont touch

19:51 <xcamel> crunch is brilliant in some of his app/opps and project managers would do well to use him often...

19:51 <efc> (I'm behind) So D.A gets P.O.d if you speed up an app too much?

19:51 <Tank_Master> yep

19:51 <Tank_Master> efc: yes

19:51 <Tank_Master> for then your granting more c/h than SETI

19:51 <xcamel> which is the ultimate "stupid"

19:52 <Tank_Master> when SETI came out with their last app, they reduced the c/p to compensate for the faster app

19:52 <efc> He wouldn't like my FPGAs then..

19:52 <Tank_Master> :)

19:52 <xcamel> he gets mad when any **one host** starts getting too much credit..

19:52 <Romulus> or perhaps 5.10.45 ?

19:53 <Tank_Master> no, Romulus: that has nothing to do with it

19:53 <Tank_Master> will you pay attantion?

19:53 <Tank_Master> &8ball will you pay attention?

19:53 <Romulus> Tank_Master: No clue.

19:53 <Tank_Master> figures

19:55 <xcamel> boinc needs more 'radicals'

19:55 <xcamel> and a few less koolaid drinkers..

19:55 <PovAddict> my system is screwing up

19:56 <Tank_Master> bummer

19:56 <PovAddict> 2wks 5days 2hrs 18mins 14secs

19:56 <PovAddict> too much uptime for Windows?

19:56 <efc> If they get nasty enough about it, you could probably find a way to make one machine look like its several different hosts..

19:56 <Tank_Master> no

19:57 <Tank_Master> my win comps generally stay up for a month, only rebooting for updates

19:57 <Tank_Master> (if needed)

19:57 <efc> Booting into say Linux, then windows, would be a crude way

19:57 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

19:57 <KathrynM> laters all

19:57 <Tank_Master> tc

20:00 * PovAddict considers reboot

20:01 * Tank_Master thinks PovAddict needs a reboot

20:05 <xcamel> pov gets da boot

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20:24 <mweltin> I updated my news PovAddict

20:24 <sethy> hello :)

20:24 <mweltin> hey sethy

20:25 <sethy> how be you ?

20:29 <mweltin> could be better, TSP is the subject of much debate over optimized apps.

20:32 <xcamel> 'lo sethy

20:32 <sethy> hey, all well in the masters house?

20:33 <Tank_Master> always

20:34 <Tank_Master> hows it going, sethy?

20:34 <sethy> ahh all is leveling out in my life i guess, after a majour crisys

20:35 <Tank_Master> what happened?

20:35 <sethy> something i'd rather not go into remembering

20:35 <sethy> many thanks

20:35 <Tank_Master> lol

20:35 <Tank_Master> mp ;)

20:35 <Tank_Master> np

20:36 <sethy> i'm just trying to fathom out php arrays

20:36 * PovAddict posts to the boinc mailing list with a small explosive

20:36 <Tank_Master> i to would like a raise

20:37 <sethy> i need a job to even get payed :)

20:37 <xcamel> many great tributes to Arthur C. Clarke, 1917-2008

20:37 <sethy> hay pov, rememver that random link generatory ou had? can i steal source?

20:38 <PovAddict> what random link gen?

20:38 <sethy> ages ago, you had a link on a like small pannel, and one of the links would change refrence

20:38 <PovAddict> well I don't remember, so I surely don't have source

20:38 <sethy> when you like, 1st started php

20:39 <PovAddict> mweltin: now crunch3r is saying you posted updated news *because* of what I said

20:39 <mweltin> no, it was because of smoked_trout

20:39 <PovAddict> looks like he it's all *my* influence

20:39 <mweltin> take crunch3r with a grain of salt.

20:40 <PovAddict> I *know* you didn't post because of what I said, I'm just letting you know of the idiot posts by the cruncher

20:40 <mweltin> I've been reading them, and posting to taht thread now.

20:42 * Tank_Master is listening to: Dave Flitcroft - 3 Hour Mix

20:43 <mweltin> does crunch3r monitor this channle?  How did he know you "screamed" out loud on irc?

20:44 <PovAddict> did you mention it on the news?

20:44 <mweltin> yes

20:44 <mweltin> well not you by name no.

20:45 <PovAddict> well but did you mention IRC?

20:46 <mweltin> no

20:46 <PovAddict> then we might have a spy on the channel

20:46 * PovAddict looks around

20:46 <mweltin> tank?

20:46 * Tank_Master looks around

20:47 <mweltin> LOL

20:47 <Tank_Master> what did I do now?

20:47 <Tank_Master> n no, I didnt post anything

20:47 <xcamel> didn't happen here..

20:47 <Tank_Master> anywho, this apprears to be the most oppertune moment to go have dinner

20:50 <Soul_keeper> lol my new hardware :)

20:51 <Soul_keeper>    my massive thermalright heatsink is too large for the case ... gonna hafta mod that beast

20:51 <Romulus> <> (at

20:53 <Soul_keeper>

20:53 <Romulus> <$> (at

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20:58 <xcamel> interesting box

21:14 <zombie67> I haven't talked to crunch3r in days

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21:22 <Tank_Master> I think your case is to small

21:22 <Soul_keeper> i will be going to home depot

21:22 <Soul_keeper> time to add 2 or 3 inches to the top

21:24 <xcamel> heh... Home Desperate..

21:24 <Tank_Master> I lke it here, HomeDepot and Lows share the same parking lot

21:25 <xcamel> Home Despot and Slows

21:25 <Soul_keeper> i'm gonna take my time with this build, it'll look nice when i'm done

21:25 <Tank_Master> coo ;)

21:42 <Soul_keeper>

21:42 <Romulus> <> (at

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21:47 <Tank_Master> interesting

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21:48 <xcamel> bah..

21:53 <Soul_keeper>

21:53 <Romulus> Title: McGrew Security Blog (at

21:53 <Soul_keeper> someone linked to some pic's on guy's server, so he swapped um :)

21:53 <Romulus> it's wierd b/c in my RAC seems to take a day already

21:59 <xcamel> laterz..

22:06 <Tank_Master> tc

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22:06 * Tank_Master slaps Romulus around a bit with a large trout

22:06 * Tank_Master slaps wdsmia around a bit with a large trout

22:12 * Tank_Master is still listening to: Dave Flitcroft - 3 Hour Mix

22:28 * wdsmia Kicks Tank_Master in the techno-nads

22:29 <wdsmia> &weather 50265

22:29 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 39.2F / 4.0C | Humidity: 71% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014.1hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 2.7mph / 4.3km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Patchy fog early in the evening. Patchy fog late in the night. Low in the lower 30s. North wind around 10 mph.; Wednesday - Partly sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. High in the mid 50s. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; (1 more message)

22:29 <wdsmia> &more

22:29 <Romulus> wdsmia: Wednesday Night - Mostly cloudy with a slight chance of rain in the evening...then partly cloudy with a chance of rain after midnight. Low in the mid 30s. South wind 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.;

22:31 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

22:31 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 51.6F / 10.9C | Humidity: 57% | Pressure: 30.17in / 1021.6hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers. Lows 35 to 40. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph in the evening becoming light.; Wednesday - Showers likely. Highs around 50. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Wednesday Night - Showers (1 more message)

22:31 <Tank_Master> &more

22:31 <Romulus> Tank_Master: likely. Lows 35 to 40. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph.;

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23:00 * Tank_Master is listening to: Varian - Endless Desire

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23:25 * KathrynM is back (gone 03:28:01)

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23:31 *** BiteAbleKat is now known as tamar

23:31 *** tamar is now known as BiteAbleKat

23:32 <BiteAbleKat> R.I.P. Arthur C. Clark

23:37 * Tank_Master hears an echo

23:40 * KathrynM goes back to the loony bin

23:40 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

23:41 <Tank_Master> ill say, she comes n goes

23:41 <Tank_Master> cant make up her mind

23:43 <Tank_Master> :)

23:59 <PovAddict> yay I got another Cels@home WU

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