IRC logs of #boinc for Wednesday, 2008-03-19

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00:01 <Tank_Master> lol

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00:29 <BiteAbleKat>

00:29 <Romulus> <> (at

00:33 <Tank_Master> nice

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00:44 <Wabbit98> all praise Arthur C. Clarke

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01:05 <Wabbit67> TM you have facebook?

01:05 <Tank_Master> technically

01:05 <Romulus> or still have Core Duo motherboards around...

01:05 <Tank_Master> I createn an account, thats about it

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01:08 <Tank_Master> I do have a my-waste-of-space page

01:09 <Wabbit67> I have no myspace page

01:09 <Tank_Master> ahh

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02:36 <e-30> hey

02:38 <e-30> &weathere wiesbaden

02:38 <Romulus> Bugger all, I dunno!

02:38 <e-30> &weather wiesbaden

02:38 <Romulus> e-30: Temperature: 35.4°F / 1.9°C | Humidity: 52% | Pressure: 29.93in / 1013.4hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 5.3mph / 8.5km/h | Updated: 6:59 AM CET; Chance of Rain. High:39 F. / 4 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:28 F. / -2 C.; Chance of Rain. High:37 F. / 3 C.; Overcast. Low:24 F. / -4 C.; Chance of Rain. High:35 F. / 2 C.; Rain. Low:32 F. / 0 C.;

02:38 <e-30> not bad

02:41 <efc> Moo e-30

02:44 <Tank_Master> hey

03:00 <efc> &markov judy

03:00 <Romulus> efc: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain.  Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.

03:19 <e-30> lol

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03:41 <efc> &markov FPGA

03:41 <Romulus> efc: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain.  Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.

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03:51 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

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05:08 <desti>

05:08 <Romulus> Title: Bug 95849 Lack of Sex is interfering with my ability to triage bugs (at

05:10 <CoderForLife>

05:10 <Romulus> Title: Sci-fi guru Arthur Clarke dies at 90 - Space- (at

05:11 <desti> :-/

05:15 <CoderForLife> yeah, sad to see him go

05:15 <CoderForLife> brb breakfast

05:16 <desti> but, 90, that's was a long life

05:23 <CoderForLife> he certainly made some lasting contributions

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05:29 <clusty> dear god,

05:30 <clusty> Vc++ .NET is nothing like I know compared to g++

05:32 * CoderForLife is currently Coding in VC++ Express 2008.

05:33 <CoderForLife> time to get ready for w@#%

05:33 * CoderForLife wanders toward the shower

05:48 <xcamel> ip kill >>

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06:28 <hawmps> 'lo K

06:29 <KathrynM> whoa.  I had orbit work

06:31 <hawmps> unusual..

06:32 <KathrynM> let me edit that.

06:32 <KathrynM> I have orbit work.

06:32 <KathrynM> A ton of it.

06:32 <KathrynM> running in high priority

06:32 <KathrynM> somedays it pays to be a linux geek :)

06:59 <hawmps> I thought orbit was 'dead'

07:00 <desti> rebirth

07:00 <hawmps> ah

07:00 <hawmps> but does it give good credit?

07:01 <KathrynM> dunno.  haven't looked at an individual wu

07:01 <desti> 2008-03-19 12:01:15 [orbit@home] Reason: no work from project

07:01 <desti> doh´

07:02 <KathrynM> linux only atm (afaik)

07:02 <desti> os[Linux 2.6.23-gentoo-r3 - ] up[16 days, 21 hours, 16 minutes] cpu[AMD Phenom(tm) 9500 Quad-Core Processor SMP (4 processors), 2200.169 MHz (17604.85 bogomips)] mem[1982.64/2011.10 MB (98.6%)] video[ at 1280x1024 (24 bits)]

07:03 <KathrynM> :)

07:06 <hawmps> oh well...

07:22 <hawmps> &weather 12020

07:22 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 32.9F / 0.5C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Today - Rain...freezing rain and sleet this morning...then periods of rain this afternoon. Rain may be heavy at times this afternoon. Ice accumulation of up to one tenth of an inch. Highs in the lower 40s. Southeast winds around 10 mph. (2 more messages)

07:22 <hawmps> &more

07:22 <Romulus> hawmps: Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Tonight - Periods of rain with a chance of thunderstorms. Rain may be heavy at times. Lows in the mid 30s. South winds around 10 mph... becoming west after midnight. Chance of rain near 100 percent.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy with a chance of rain or snow showers. Windy with highs in the lower 40s. Northwest winds 15 to 25 mph with gusts up to 35 mph...becoming (1 more message)

07:22 <hawmps> &more

07:22 <Romulus> hawmps: west 25 to 30 mph with gusts up to 45 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation 40 percent.; Winter Weather Advisory for Saratoga County in effect until 11:00 AM EDT on March 19, 2008; Areal Flood Watch for Saratoga County in effect until 2:00 PM EDT on March 20, 2008;

07:23 <hawmps> mega-yuk

07:23 <Romulus> you should have peaked

07:24 <KathrynM> &weather Ulsan

07:24 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 46°F / 8°C | Humidity: 74% | Pressure: 30.08in / 1019hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h | Updated: 6:00 PM KST; Chance of Rain. High:55 F. / 13 C.; Clear. Low:41 F. / 5 C.; Clear. High:53 F. / 12 C.; Clear. Low:39 F. / 4 C.; Clear. High:55 F. / 13 C.; Overcast. Low:42 F. / 6 C.;

07:24 <KathrynM> at least it stopped raining over here :)

07:24 <e-30> lol

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08:38 <wdsmia_w> mornin all

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08:39 <yoyo[RKN]> moin wdsmia

08:42 <wdsmia_w> another fun filled day here at command central

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08:57 <hawmps> ditto - with flooding rains added in for flavor...

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09:14 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

09:14 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 46.5F / 8.1C | Humidity: 95% | Pressure: 29.64in / 1003.6hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Rain. A chance of thunderstorms until late afternoon. Rain may be heavy at times. Morning highs around 50...then temperatures falling into the lower 40s this afternoon. Northwest winds 10 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. (2 more messages)

09:15 <CoderForLife> &more

09:15 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Chance of rain 100 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy with rain showers in the evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Lows in the lower 30s. Northwest winds 10 to 20 mph. Chance of precipitation 80 percent.; Thursday - Partly sunny. Highs in the upper 40s. West winds 10 to 15 mph.; Flash Flood Warning for Hamilton County in effect until 7:30 AM EDT on March 20, 2008; Flood Advisory, Areal Flood Watch for (1 more message)

09:15 <CoderForLife> &more

09:15 <Romulus> cya all in the same day during different login attempts..

09:15 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Hamilton County in effect until 6:00 PM EDT on March 19, 2008;

09:15 <CoderForLife> it's areal flood, alright

09:15 <wdsmia_w> how long can you tread water?

09:16 <CoderForLife> "I can hold my breath, a long, long time!" - Leslie Nielsen

09:17 <KathrynM> yes!

09:17 <CoderForLife> looks like we're heading to about 5 inches of rain

09:17 * KathrynM has reduced the number of emails in her inbox from 15 to 2

09:17 <KathrynM> building an ark?

09:17 <CoderForLife>

09:18 <CoderForLife> I haven't picked up the tarp to see if it's doing it's job.

09:18 <hawmps> wow

09:18 <CoderForLife> That would be like pulling up the carrots to see how the roots are coming along.

09:19 <hawmps> indeed

09:19 <CoderForLife> I'm sitting in my weekly Weds morning staff meeting

09:20 <KathrynM> must be a fascinating meeting

09:20 <CoderForLife> my turn has passed - Jeff is reporting now

09:20 <KathrynM> i'm heading for my weekly wednesday night nap

09:20 <KathrynM> laterz

09:20 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

09:20 <CoderForLife> cya =)

09:20 <hawmps> sitting here doing my stuff, and watching it pour...

09:21 <CoderForLife> it will pour more

09:21 <wdsmia_w> &weather 50319

09:21 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 32.5F / 0.3C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016.1hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Patchy fog early in the morning. High in the lower 50s. North wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then mostly cloudy with a 30 percent chance of rain and snow after midnight. Low in the (1 more message)

09:21 <wdsmia_w> &more

09:21 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: mid 30s. South wind near 10 mph.; Thursday - Partly sunny. High in the mid 50s. South wind around 10 mph.;

09:21 <CoderForLife> roads are getting closed due to standing water, flooding rivers and landslides

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09:40 <hawmps> .25 since midnight - much more to come...

09:40 <Romulus> oops. Crunch3r is mad at me for a password you can do it

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09:52 <desti> 2008-03-19 13:19:51 [orbit@home] [file_xfer] Started download of file telescope.conf

09:52 <desti> 2008-03-19 13:19:53 [orbit@home] [file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of telescope.conf: file not found

09:52 <desti> doh´

09:53 <PovAddict> desti: Re: mozilla bug 95849

09:53 <PovAddict> WTF

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11:30 <PovAddict> on a dualcore, there is no good way to see two project screensavers at the same time

11:30 <PovAddict> except having dual monitor

11:31 <PovAddict> if I could run *four* tasks at a time, I could tile them and they would look right; but with only two, they look stretched

11:31 <PovAddict> clearly I need a quad :)

11:32 * wdsmia_w thinks that Clearly you need a life

11:33 <PovAddict> says the one with the BOINC farm

11:34 <wdsmia_w> not really a farm just a garden

11:37 * CoderForLife wants to be in the Clearly club

11:38 * wdsmia_w bangs CoderForLife over the head with the club

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11:40 * CoderForLife responds by going out to lunch with some co-w@#%ers

11:40 <CoderForLife> later

11:40 <wdsmia_w> cya

11:47 <hawmps> wonder if they're having fish...

11:48 <PovAddict> aaaargh

12:00 <wdsmia_w> depending on the road they take the fish could be having them

12:04 <hawmps> good point

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13:08 <CoderForLife> not phish, Arby's roast beast

13:08 <CoderForLife> their dining room was leaking

13:09 <CoderForLife> I guess they may have been serving fish in the lower dining room

13:10 <PovAddict> I remember an internet security warning titled "let's go phishing!"

13:11 <hawmps> we're getting a break in the action..

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14:06 <PovAddict> zombie67:

14:06 <Romulus> <> (at

14:06 <PovAddict> there's still some common sense in the planet

14:13 <zombie67> yep

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14:16 <Tank_Master> :)

14:16 <PovAddict> DA keeps making it harder for me to write a boinc client from scratch

14:17 <hawmps> go figure

14:19 <Tank_Master> well, if you do that, he looses controle

14:19 <Tank_Master> cant have that!

14:19 <Tank_Master> ;)

14:25 <CoderForLife> our rain has changed from "sheets" to "torrents"

14:25 <Tank_Master> bit torrents?

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14:28 <Tank_Master> BB!

14:30 <BadBarbarian> Hiya

14:31 <Tank_Master> sup?

14:32 <BadBarbarian> Nada Nada

14:33 <BadBarbarian> Sup With You

14:33 <Tank_Master> not much

14:48 <hawmps> 'lo BB

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14:57 <PovAddict> </rant>

14:57 <PovAddict> send();

14:57 <Tank_Master> o.O?

14:57 <PovAddict> David will kill me...

14:58 <PovAddict> o well, more fun that way

14:58 <Tank_Master> Error: resipant processing failed

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15:05 <hawmps> ?redo from start

15:19 * CoderForLife watches canines and felines plunge to the very wet earth

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15:20 <PovAddict> raining cats and dogs?

15:20 <Tank_Master> lol

15:20 <CoderForLife> precipitating pets

15:20 <PovAddict> you'll need a boat to commute to and from w#$%

15:21 <CoderForLife> drowning in domesticated animals

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15:21 <CoderForLife> I do have to cross a river that is in flood stage

15:22 <PovAddict> I think I'll do some productive wo-- err, w#$%, and *then* read the reply from DA

15:23 * CoderForLife tries on his old life preserver

15:24 * CoderForLife rehearses the butterfly and the doggy-paddle

15:25 * CoderForLife then calls for the hearse

15:25 <PovAddict> better idea: don't go out :)

15:26 <CoderForLife> hmm - you want me to stay at wo-- err, w@#% until the water does down?

15:26 <PovAddict> or, you *are* at w#$% now?

15:26 <PovAddict> I was thinking more like... skip w#$% because of the rain... but if you're already there... :/

15:27 <CoderForLife> leaving for home in 35 minutes

15:27 <CoderForLife> depending on which clock I look at

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15:31 * CoderForLife looks for the most favorable clock

15:35 * CoderForLife waits to leave w@#% at low tide

15:36 <CoderForLife> paying attention to the tide was never a problem until the last couple of days, being at least a day from the ocean

15:45 * CoderForLife prepares to pull up stakes

15:45 <CoderForLife> disconnecting from home PC - cya later

15:45 <wdsmia_w> cya

15:45 <Romulus> you are both here

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15:49 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86046

15:49 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 57.0F / 13.9C | Humidity: 25% | Pressure: 23.74in / 803.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 10.1mph / 16.3km/h ; Today - Partly cloudy in the morning then becoming mostly sunny. Highs 54 to 60. Light winds becoming southwest around 15 mph in the afternoon.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows 24 to 32. Southwest winds around 15 mph early in the evening (1 more message)

15:49 <BadBarbarian> &more

15:49 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: becoming light.; Thursday - Breezy. Partly cloudy in the morning then becoming mostly sunny. Highs 54 to 60. Light winds becoming southwest 15 to 25 mph in the afternoon.;

15:59 <xcamel> baah.. new lhc's crash

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16:01 <BadBarbarian> lo Xcamel

16:01 <xcamel> 'lo BB

16:02 <BadBarbarian> hows things

16:03 <xcamel> wet

16:04 <BadBarbarian> lol sunny & almost 60 degrees here

16:04 <Tank_Master> same here

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16:07 <xcamel> I wish - we're getting the storm that Don has had for 2 days now..

16:07 <Tank_Master> a storm lasting 2 days, what a novelty

16:08 <xcamel> over 4" of rain there...

16:08 <PovAddict> &math convert 60 C F

16:08 <Romulus> PovAddict: 140.0

16:08 <PovAddict> wait

16:08 <PovAddict> &math convert 60 F C

16:08 <Romulus> PovAddict: 15.5555555556

16:08 <PovAddict> there

16:08 <xcamel> 6"+ is some parts of KY/TN

16:08 <PovAddict> lol

16:08 <PovAddict> &weather buenos aires

16:08 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 81°F / 27°C | Humidity: 61% | Pressure: 29.80in / 1009hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h | Updated: 4:00 PM ART; Overcast. High:82 F. / 28 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:73 F. / 23 C.; Chance of Rain. High:84 F. / 29 C.; Clear. Low:71 F. / 22 C.; Clear. High:86 F. / 30 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:69 F. / 21 C.;

16:10 <xcamel> 81 would be nice about now..

16:22 <xcamel> mexico is less than a month away..

16:22 <Tank_Master> what isnt?

16:23 <Tank_Master> even the moon takes less than a month to get to

16:23 <PovAddict> a month is not a distance unit ;)

16:24 <Tank_Master> no really?

16:25 <xcamel> one in every crowd..

16:25 <Tank_Master> yep

16:25 <FreeLarry58> lol - month about the time it takes to get to the post office

16:26 <FreeLarry58> howdy everyong

16:26 <FreeLarry58> enjoy the vacation jay

16:26 <xcamel> 'lo Larry..

16:26 <xcamel> and I really need it this year..

16:27 <xcamel> btw... got a new toy coming..

16:27 <FreeLarry58> know the feeling

16:27 <xcamel> if it gets here in time...

16:27 <FreeLarry58> ohh new toy what this time 48 roadster?

16:27 <xcamel> 'modbook'

16:27 <xcamel> macbook pro turned into a tablet pc

16:27 <FreeLarry58> ?? havent seen that term before

16:27 <FreeLarry58> ohh

16:27 <xcamel> way cool..

16:28 <Romulus> I'm seen that term before

16:28 * FreeLarry58 notes Romulus is showing off again

16:29 <xcamel> romy does that just to PO <Tank_Master>

16:29 <FreeLarry58> me still trying to get things done around here - fix siding on two spots and get garage floor painted - first need to pressure wash it

16:30 <FreeLarry58> lol is Tank_Master getting is barrel pointed at Romulus again?

16:30 <FreeLarry58> his

16:30 <PovAddict> &markov Tank_Master

16:30 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: I was unable to generate a Markov chain at least 4 words long.

16:30 <PovAddict> aw

16:31 <FreeLarry58> ??

16:31 <PovAddict> &markov

16:31 <Romulus> I know. Again, that was a gmail file sent to you

16:31 <FreeLarry58> &markov FreeLarry58

16:31 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: Error: I was unable to generate a Markov chain at least 4 words long.

16:31 <FreeLarry58> understadable i guess

16:32 <FreeLarry58> hows the screen saver going PovAddict?

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16:55 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

16:55 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 40.2F / 4.6C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.60in / 1002.3hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Occasional rain early...becoming partly cloudy after midnight. Lows in the lower 30s. Northwest winds 10 to 20 mph...decreasing to 5 to 10 mph late. Chance of rain 90 percent.; Thursday - Partly sunny. Highs in the upper 40s. (1 more message)

16:55 <CoderForLife> &more

16:55 <Romulus> CoderForLife: West winds 10 to 15 mph.; Thursday Night - Mostly clear in the evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Lows around 30. North winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming east after midnight.; Flood Warning, Flash Flood Warning for Hamilton County in effect until 7:00 PM EDT on March 19, 2008; Areal Flood Watch, Flood Advisory for Hamilton County in effect until 6:00 PM EDT on March 19, 2008;

16:57 <Tank_Master> &weather 97007

16:57 <Tank_Master> &more

16:57 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.

16:57 <Tank_Master> &more

16:57 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.

16:57 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 55.2F / 12.9C | Humidity: 52% | Pressure: 30.02in / 1016.5hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Today - Cloudy. A slight chance of showers in the morning...then showers likely in the afternoon. Highs around 50. Light wind.; Tonight - Showers likely. Lows 35 to 40. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Thursday - Showers likely. Highs (1 more message)

16:57 <Tank_Master> &more

16:57 <Romulus> Tank_Master: around 50. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph.;

16:57 <CoderForLife> the rain has slowed to a mist

16:57 <Tank_Master> good

16:57 <CoderForLife> the river was *very* high

16:58 <Tank_Master> holy crap

16:58 <Tank_Master> LHC was defered 36h

16:58 <CoderForLife> I'm guessing there was about 6 feet between the water and the bottom of the bridge

16:59 <CoderForLife> I was wondering what was happening with the supports

17:00 <CoderForLife>,+loveland+oH&sll=39.245199,-84.264798&sspn=0.008259,0.007296&ie=UTF8&ll=39.246496,-84.294984&spn=0.008259,0.007296&t=h&z=17

17:00 <Romulus> <> (at

17:00 <Romulus> I didn't even report a problem

17:00 <Tank_Master> you ARE the problem

17:01 <CoderForLife> the islands to the north were under water

17:01 <CoderForLife> in a big way

17:01 <PovAddict> Romulus: the problem is always DNS, regardless of the symptoms

17:01 <Romulus> ... but the problem is that "WorldCommunityGrid" is viewed by gridrepublic as a single project in the resource partition process ...

17:01 <Tank_Master> what harm is a little extra watter?

17:01 <PovAddict> no, learn *my* definition!

17:05 <CoderForLife> Despite the rumors, I don't walk on water

17:15 <wdsmia> re-hi

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17:20 <CoderForLife> and water this the enemy of "Edenton loam, 25 to 50 percent slopes, moderately eroded" which surrounds my house

17:21 <CoderForLife> *technically speaking*

17:23 <CoderForLife> hmm - Available water capacity: About 5.0 inches to a depth of 30 inches

17:23 <CoderForLife> we've had 5 inches in the last 2 days

17:23 <CoderForLife> and a foot of snow before that

17:24 <PovAddict> &echo [math convert 5 inch cm] cm of rain and [math convert 1 foot cm] cm of snow

17:24 <Romulus> 12.7 cm of rain and 30.48 cm of snow

17:24 <PovAddict> that's a lotta snow

17:26 <CoderForLife> a lot of "watter" in total

17:26 <PovAddict> heluvalot

17:26 <CoderForLife> time to take a wet walk around the house, to inspect

17:26 <CoderForLife> bbl

17:27 <PovAddict> "leak hunt"

17:28 <CoderForLife> yeah - inside and out, plus look for landslides

17:28 <CoderForLife> bbl

17:28 <Tank_Master> hf

17:29 <Tank_Master> dont get wet

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17:31 <Tank_Master> sweet, another Cels WU

17:38 <xcamel> back again...

17:38 <Tank_Master> wb

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17:53 <zombie67> 'sup with BS?  slow

17:53 <Romulus> Cool. I know that cels is too unreliable

17:56 <PovAddict> no idea

17:56 <PovAddict> do you have a BRaTS account?

17:58 <Tank_Master> I do

17:58 <zombie67> yeah

17:58 <PovAddict> I suppose you don't have an invite code? :)

17:58 <zombie67> ahem

17:58 <zombie67> "what is the point of an invite code if they are given out to anyone who asks"  -pov

17:58 <PovAddict> xD

17:58 <Tank_Master> LOL

17:59 <Tank_Master> ouch

17:59 <zombie67> seriously though, I don't think so.  lemme look

17:59 <PovAddict> *pwned*

18:00 <zombie67> so, the admin created an account for me,then sent me the Authenticator.

18:00 * Tank_Master slaps PovAddict with a hot iron for useing childish words

18:00 <zombie67> I don't think that will work for you, right?

18:00 <PovAddict> well I might ask the admin if I was really interested in it...

18:01 <zombie67> rarely has work

18:01 <PovAddict> mkay

18:01 <Tank_Master> I havent seen work in months

18:03 <PovAddict> I got started with Poem :)

18:04 <zombie67> ufluids is out of work

18:05 <xcamel> the new lhc's all crashed..

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18:06 <zombie67> TLP:  March 19, 2008 System Enhancements

18:06 <zombie67> I am in the process of rolling out some system enhancements, which should have a dramatic impact on the number of simultaneously running HMMPfam jobs we can allow, for example. We will mostly likely scale up this capacity gradually, but if you notice anything odd please don't hesitate to report it. Thanks!

18:07 <PovAddict> TLP?

18:07 <PovAddict> ah Lattice

18:09 <xcamel> or lettuce

18:09 <wdsmia> Jay just doesnt have any luck with LHC now days

18:11 <xcamel> every one of today's wu's crashed - both platforms.

18:11 <PovAddict> crashed?

18:11 <PovAddict> "computation error"?

18:11 <PovAddict> or just finished in a split second?

18:12 <DerMeister> I have one running here, at about 93% at the moment...

18:12 <yoyo[RKN]> re

18:12 <xcamel> ok - finished instantly, to be technically correct..

18:12 <zombie67> yoyo!

18:13 <yoyo[RKN]> hi zombie67 and thx !

18:13 <PovAddict> hey yoyo

18:13 <PovAddict> how good are you with C++ :)

18:14 <yoyo[RKN]> bad

18:14 <PovAddict>

18:14 <Romulus> Title: Nopaste - No description (at

18:14 <yoyo[RKN]> last coding in C++ was 10 years ago

18:14 <Romulus> slaps Romulus around a bit over 5%...and growing

18:14 <yoyo[RKN]> did only slight modifications in sample_bitwise_validator

18:16 <DerMeister> hmm... I don't see any chance for a memory leak (except some low-level signal handling... dirty C-stuff) in the second case... in the first case there could be a memory leak because of an uncaught exception in bar()...

18:16 <PovAddict> yeah I just saw his reply

18:16 <PovAddict> hold on

18:17 <PovAddict>

18:17 <Romulus> <> (at

18:17 <zombie67> yoyo, you know that problem RS has, where if quit, the clock starts over on an app, even though the crunching continues from last saved?  It causes cross-stat site to look like too many credits.  Does yoyo@home have any apps like that?

18:18 <yoyo[RKN]> yes

18:18 <zombie67> thought so!

18:18 <PovAddict> ahaa!

18:18 <yoyo[RKN]> thing all wrapper apps have this problem

18:18 <yoyo[RKN]> think

18:18 <DerMeister> Well, yes, if the copy-constructor and/or operator= is badly implemented or missing than copying instances of this class will be deadly...

18:19 <zombie67> not all, but it happens only with wrapper is used

18:19 <PovAddict> DerMeister: there is no copy constructor on that snippet, so you end up with the default, which doesn't do what you want

18:19 <DerMeister> that's right

18:20 <zombie67> so that is your excuse/reason the next time DA complains.

18:21 <yoyo[RKN]> yes, somebody answered this already in the stats mailinglist

18:22 <DerMeister> <yoyo[RKN]> thing all wrapper apps have this problem <= I don't think so because I never saw this problem at primegrid... And there all applications use wrappers...

18:22 <PovAddict> their applications never checkpoint

18:22 <DerMeister> They do

18:22 <PovAddict> if the app restarts, counter goes to 0, but so does progress...

18:22 <zombie67> yeah, but DA may not know it also it applies to yoyo as well as RS.

18:23 <zombie67> The problem is when the counter restarts, but the task does not, it restarts from checkpoint

18:25 <DerMeister> Then the wrapper is bad. It should check whether the working application did checkpoint and take corresponding actions. Like the primgerid wrappers do.

18:25 <zombie67> more clear:  the problem is when the time counter restarts from 0, but the task work restarts from checkpoint

18:25 <PovAddict> primegrid has its own wrapper

18:25 <zombie67> then total crunch time is under-reported

18:26 <zombie67> an then c/h looks too high

18:26 <yoyo[RKN]> the wrapper does not know when the wrapped application checkpoints

18:26 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: with custom code added to the wrapper, it would

18:26 <zombie67> lhc is down

18:26 <DerMeister> yoyo[RKN]: but it should be able to find out as the worker needs to store it's status somewhere... the wrapper should be able to check these files...

18:27 <PovAddict> check for modification date of the checkpoint file

18:27 <PovAddict> if it has changed since last check, store current CPU time

18:28 <DerMeister> Depending on the information stored in the checkpoint file it could even be used to update the progress bar of the manager...

18:28 <PovAddict> that is what primegrid does

18:28 <PovAddict> llr app saves a progress.txt with the %

18:28 <PovAddict> the wrapper reads it and notifies the core client

18:29 <DerMeister> PovAddict: as far as I know this is a modified llr application...

18:29 <yoyo[RKN]> for my evo app I do it also

18:29 <PovAddict> maybe the worker is modified

18:29 <PovAddict> but definitely uses a wrapper

18:30 <DerMeister> PovAddict: yes, I know for sure that this is a modified worker.

18:30 <zombie67> wow.  I have an LHC task that has been running for 9 hours, and is 78%.  This is on a 3.2 HT Xeon

18:30 <PovAddict> I wonder... if they could modify the worker, why didn't they add BOINC api calls to it

18:30 <PovAddict> so a wrapper isn't neede

18:30 <PovAddict> d

18:30 <DerMeister> And I know how the wrapper works because I developed the linux versions for primegrid (at least the origial ones for 32 Bit) ;)

18:31 <DerMeister> PovAddict: LLR application isn't open source... The author just added this modification for RieselSieve (as far as I know)

18:31 <DerMeister> primegrid just uses the version from rieselsieve

18:31 <PovAddict> hmm

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18:41 <yoyo[RKN]> seams that my wrapper needs improvements

18:41 <yoyo[RKN]> reported CPU time was not so important for me

18:43 <PovAddict> low reported CPU time gives high credit/time ratio

18:43 <PovAddict> which makes it look like you overclaim when compared to other projects

18:43 <yoyo[RKN]> yes, since Davids new credit policies I know this ;)

18:43 <zombie67> with fixed credits, or at least credits that re not based on time, CPU time is irrelevant.  It's at only cross-project stat sites that can't deal.

18:43 <PovAddict> wohoo! I got primegrid screensaver to work *again* :)

18:44 <PovAddict> after some heavy refactoring

18:44 <Romulus> fishsponge, you have a shitload of workunits for each project

18:44 <yoyo[RKN]> cool

18:44 <yoyo[RKN]> a Matrix screensaver?

18:44 <PovAddict> not yet :)

18:45 <PovAddict> I still haven't added the numbers back since I refactored into a Screensaver class

18:45 <PovAddict> and the progressbar doesn't change

18:45 <PovAddict> but at least it compiles and runs now :P

18:45 <yoyo[RKN]> so the basic things are running

18:46 <PovAddict> it was looking like this

18:46 <zombie67> cool!  willy widened the "options" column, so it no longer wraps and makes every row double-tall.

18:46 <Romulus> <> (at

18:47 <PovAddict> I never saw it wrapping

18:47 <zombie67> hmmm.  maybe it was a safari problem, and 3.1 fixed it.

18:48 <PovAddict> I'm going out of my way to avoid unrelated changes in a single SVN commit

18:48 <PovAddict> I just did some changes all around

18:49 <PovAddict> and made three commits, for different files

18:49 <PovAddict> (unlike DA usually does, ten changes to completely different components all around BOINC in a single changeset)

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18:50 <PovAddict> time for some cleanup now

18:50 * wdsmia thinks pov has finally figured out that DA isnt God

18:50 <PovAddict> I never thought that

18:51 <yoyo_RKN> re

18:51 <yoyo_RKN> lost connection

18:52 <xcamel> lol

18:52 <xcamel> yoyo is now orange..

18:53 <xcamel> a rare color

18:53 <zombie67> position 101 BOINC combined!

18:53 <xcamel> who?

18:53 <zombie67> me

18:53 <PovAddict> I'm #31,627 :)

18:53 <infinisoft> Nice

18:54 <xcamel> I'm #300 or so

18:54 <wdsmia> #236

18:54 <yoyo_RKN> Orange?

18:54 <infinisoft> 13,829

18:55 <zombie67> position by RAC is ~70.  So I still have a few notches to climbe

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18:55 * wdsmia slaps zombie67

18:56 <zombie67> yow!

18:56 <wdsmia> must be nice to use w@#$ computers

18:56 <zombie67> w@#$ computers?

18:56 <Romulus> which then reappear when least expected, like when just typing "linux?"

18:57 <zombie67> Heh.  My largest slice is "Other"

18:57 <Romulus> <> (at

18:58 <zombie67> spreading the love

18:58 <yoyo_RKN> oh and yoyo #4

18:59 <zombie67> Yep.  Once I hit my PS3GRID goal, it goes back to yoyo

18:59 <zombie67> ah, no, they are all my personal machines, at my house.

19:00 <yoyo_RKN> ogr will finish this year

19:00 <zombie67> oh, so I should take it now while i can?

19:01 <yoyo_RKN> probably it will finish in October

19:01 <zombie67> how much later this year?

19:01 <zombie67> ah

19:01 <zombie67> let's see...

19:01 <wdsmia> zombie67 you must be rich power alone costs me ton

19:02 <zombie67> not rich, but yeah, it eats up a huge slice of my budget

19:02 <zombie67> I will hit 1M at PS3GRID in about 110 days.

19:02 <yoyo_RKN> ogr end prediction:

19:02 <Romulus> Title: OGR-25 Phase 2 End Prediction (at

19:02 <wdsmia> like any hobbie " a big hole you thow money into"

19:03 <zombie67> yep!  like cars, comics...

19:03 <zombie67> so that would leave ~100 days to crunch OGR on my PS3

19:04 * wdsmia needs to replace his old p4's with quads

19:05 * xcamel needs more quads

19:05 <zombie67> I THINK I have learned why ps3grid tasks sometimes get hung when also crunching yoyo.

19:05 <wdsmia> tax refund wont quite cover it lol

19:06 <zombie67> I will set it to 50/50 to see if the fix works.

19:06 <xcamel> nice flood watch..

19:06 <zombie67> refund?

19:06 <zombie67> lucky....

19:06 <yoyo_RKN> what was the cause, zombie67

19:06 <zombie67> you need to set the max#CPU to "1"

19:07 * KathrynM is back (gone 09:46:17)

19:07 <yoyo_RKN> so the second app is removed from memory and the remaining one can use all PPE/SPEs

19:07 <PovAddict> KathrynM: must be good to live on the opposite timezone

19:08 <KathrynM> it's morning

19:08 <KathrynM> that's about all I can say

19:08 <wdsmia> mornin Kathryn

19:08 <yoyo_RKN> yes morning at 0:10 am here

19:08 <xcamel> 'lo K

19:08 <KathrynM> lol

19:08 <KathrynM> ok, morning with the sun up :)

19:08 <zombie67> even with "leave apps in memory" set to NO, it still had problems.

19:08 <zombie67> read more here:

19:08 <Romulus> <> (at

19:09 <Soul_keeper>   nice

19:09 <Romulus> <> (at

19:14 <xcamel> hmmmm...

19:16 <wdsmia> indeed

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19:27 <xcamel> humidity and dust are going to play havoc with those devices..

19:29 <wdsmia> Soul_keeper can watch them arc with that new case of his lol

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19:34 <Soul_keeper> yup

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19:48 <xcamel> 'lo Ed

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19:51 <efc> Hey

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20:06 <Tank_Master> howdy

20:07 <xcamel> poor Don - parts of cincy pushing 5" of rain

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20:09 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

20:32 <Tank_Master> today?

20:32 <Romulus> It has been said that today is update tuesday for MS, right, Tank_Master

20:32 <Tank_Master> its... not... Tuesday!

20:33 <Tank_Master> and you misspelled Tuesday

20:35 <PovAddict> just started raining

20:35 <PovAddict> lawts

20:57 <wdsmia> &weather 50265

20:57 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 47.3F / 8.5C | Humidity: 30% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016.1hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A 20 percent chance of rain showers after midnight. Low in the lower 30s. South wind near 10 mph.; Thursday - Partly sunny. High in the upper 50s. Southeast wind 10 to 15 mph.; Thursday Night - Cloudy with a chance (1 more message)

20:57 <wdsmia> &more

20:57 <Romulus> wdsmia: of rain and isolated thunderstorms. Low in the lower 40s. Southeast wind 5 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 50 percent.;

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21:00 <xcamel> &weather 12074

21:00 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 37.2F / 2.9C | Humidity: 97% | Pressure: 29.56in / 1000.9hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - A chance of thunderstorms. Periods of rain. Rain may be heavy at times after midnight. Lows in the mid 30s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming west after midnight. Chance of rain near 100 percent.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy (2 more messages)

21:01 <xcamel> &more

21:01 <Romulus> xcamel: with a chance of snow and rain showers. Brisk with highs in the lower 40s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph... increasing to 15 to 25 mph with gusts up to 35 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation 50 percent.; Thursday Night - Mostly cloudy. A chance of flurries in the evening. Brisk with lows in the mid 20s. Northwest winds 20 to 25 mph with gusts up to 35 mph.; Areal Flood Watch for Saratoga (1 more message)

21:01 <xcamel> &more

21:01 <Romulus> xcamel: County in effect until 2:00 PM EDT on March 20, 2008;

21:03 <wdsmia> looks like Don's area is clearing

21:05 <wdsmia> looks like your going to get wet Jay

21:07 <xcamel> ya think?

21:07 <PovAddict> yeah

21:07 <PovAddict> he sent all the rain to me

21:07 <wdsmia> Better put the water wings on the llamas

21:08 <xcamel> I have good drainage..

21:08 <wdsmia> how about your stores?

21:09 <wdsmia> water logged lumber doesnt sell real well

21:10 <Romulus> when it dropping in and out the ACO app up?

21:10 <xcamel> not much to worry about - ice has gone out now

21:10 <wdsmia> that helps

21:11 <CoderForLife> hey gang

21:12 <wdsmia> Hey Don

21:12 <CoderForLife> hi Doug

21:12 <CoderForLife> weather radio going off...

21:12 <wdsmia> dried out yet?

21:13 <CoderForLife> I'm up to my ears in issues

21:13 * wdsmia hates weather radio... but you have to have it

21:13 <CoderForLife> zackly

21:13 <CoderForLife> it's a flood warning for the Little Miami River

21:14 <CoderForLife> it is due to rise another foot before starting down tomorrow

21:15 <CoderForLife> the creek behind my house, that my back yard wants to join, empties into the Little Miami, which empties into the Ohio

21:16 <CoderForLife> on top of all this, my mom reported that my sister is not doing so well again

21:16 * wdsmia bought a house on a hill after the floods of 93

21:16 <CoderForLife> when it rains, it monsoons

21:17 <xcamel> we're at .84" - and the hard rain nasn't hit yet...

21:18 <wdsmia> sorry to here about your sis was hoping she was over the worst of it

21:19 <xcamel> ditto on your Sis, Don..

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21:29 <CoderForLife> yeah - she's at the local rehab hospital, but not making progress

21:30 <CoderForLife> several infections, and now not eating again

21:30 <CoderForLife> losing ground on rehab sessions

21:31 <CoderForLife> I'm quite exhausted - personal issues on top of w@#% issues

21:31 <CoderForLife> I'm going to let sleep overtake me

21:31 <CoderForLife> cya folks back here soon

21:31 <wdsmia> good idea

21:31 <wdsmia> &nn Don

21:31 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

21:32 <CoderForLife> thanks for the advice Jay - you're the best

21:32 <CoderForLife> cya Doug - thanks for the support

21:32 * CoderForLife passes out

21:33 * Tank_Master puts CoderForLife's hand in warm watter

21:34 * wdsmia puts Tank_Master in the bunk bed under CoderForLife

21:34 <Tank_Master> hey, this aint no bunk bed!  You put me on the floor!!!

21:35 <wdsmia> good place for you with the rest of the dust bunnies :P

21:35 <Tank_Master> heh

21:35 <wdsmia> j/k lol

21:35 <Tank_Master> just fix rommie, will ya?

21:35 <xcamel> under the dust bunnies..

21:36 * Tank_Master thows dust bunnies at wdsmia

21:38 * wdsmia take the dust bunnies and puts then into Tank_Master's cpu intake

21:38 <wdsmia> err takes

21:40 <wdsmia> darn "s" keeps sticking on this kb... looks like its about time for a replacement

21:40 * Tank_Master notifyes wdsmia that thats not Tank_Master's computer, its CoderForLife's

21:40 <Tank_Master> LOL

21:40 <wdsmia> only have about 20 stuck in a box

21:41 <Tank_Master> in a differnt room a few momnet ago, I said:

21:41 <Tank_Master> [2008:03:19:18:39:07] * Tank_Master thingks its time to get a new keyboard

21:41 <Tank_Master> [2008:03:19:18:39:26] <Tank_Master> keys are getting somewhat hard to hress from all the use

21:41 <wdsmia> lol

21:41 <Tank_Master> then not a min later you say yours needs to be replace

21:43 <wdsmia> well if I pulled the keys and cleaned out all the spilt coffee and coke Im sure I could get a few nore months out of this one

21:45 <wdsmia> then all I would need is a brain that could spell

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21:45 <PovAddic1> thunders damaged the TV

21:46 <PovAddic1> well, lightning

21:46 <PovAddic1> whatever

21:47 <Tank_Master> electrons short out the TV?

21:48 <wdsmia> its the path to ground that gets you every time

21:48 <xcamel> here comes the nasty stuff too...

21:49 <wdsmia>

21:49 <Romulus> <> (at

21:49 <PovAddic1> hmm not sure how that thing is called

21:50 <PovAddic1> according to wikipedia: Residual-current device

21:50 <Tank_Master> a mess

21:50 <Tank_Master> useless

21:50 <PovAddic1> "In the United States and Canada, a residual current device is also known as a ground fault circuit interrupter (GFCI), Ground Fault Interrupter (GFI) or an appliance leakage current interrupter (ALCI)."

21:50 <PovAddic1> anyway

21:50 <PovAddic1> lightning struck nearby

21:50 <PovAddic1> nothing bad seemed to happen, not even flickering lights

21:50 <Tank_Master> it let the smoke out of your TV

21:51 <wdsmia> Its dead Jim

21:51 <Tank_Master> :D

21:51 <xcamel> always smoke trapped in there somewhere..

21:51 <PovAddic1> however, when my dad turned the TV on, that... electrical security thing I mentioned above... disconnected the power

21:51 <Romulus> check camera 3 on my local host

21:51 <PovAddic1> hmm might have been just perfect timing

21:51 <PovAddic1> connected it back, turned TV on again, same thing

21:51 <PovAddic1> so, TV's screwed

21:51 <xcamel> it's shorted out then

21:51 <Tank_Master> ouch

21:51 <Tank_Master> the device or the TV?

21:52 <xcamel> yes

21:52 <Tank_Master> thought so

21:52 <Tank_Master> that would be my guess, anyway

21:52 <xcamel> damn big slug of rain just off to the west

21:53 <xcamel> unplug the TV - plug in a lamp and turn it on..

21:53 <xcamel> betting it's not the GFI

21:53 <wdsmia> yup

21:53 <PovAddic1> xcamel: you mean in the same plug?

21:54 <Tank_Master> Ive never seen a slug run before

21:54 <xcamel> same socket..

21:54 <PovAddic1> that

21:54 * wdsmia slaps Tank_Master with slug slime

21:56 <Tank_Master> eww, thats worse than troll bogies

21:56 <wdsmia> lol

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21:56 <xcamel> must be he blew all the circuits..

21:57 <PovAddic1> nope, just the other nickname timed out

21:57 <wdsmia> rofl

21:58 <xcamel> well.. time to go listen to the rain pound down on the roof...

21:58 <xcamel> laterz..

21:58 <Tank_Master> hf

22:02 <wdsmia> wheb ohm's law, murphy's law and mother nature meet it's going to be a party

22:02 <wdsmia> ... when

22:02 <PovAddic1> lol

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22:28 <wdsmia> *lo BAK

22:28 <Romulus> Damn... Einstein has surpassed RS in my Code...

22:31 <Tank_Master> o.O?

22:34 * KathrynM is back (gone 02:25:19)

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22:39 <bryanUC> Romulus: what are you talking about?

22:39 <Romulus> Bugger all, I dunno!

22:39 <bryanUC> lol

22:39 <bryanUC> Romulus: shut up

22:39 <Romulus> I have no idea, bryanUC.

22:39 <bryanUC> surprise :)

22:39 <bryanUC> works in another channel...

22:39 <KathrynM> &stfu

22:39 <Romulus> You can't turn markov up! You'll just have to live with it...

22:39 <KathrynM> crap

22:39 * KathrynM rips rommie's mobo out

22:41 * Tank_Master thinks he has found the perfict woman!

22:54 <wdsmia> well that looks like a "ah shit what did he mean" and a "ah shit how did she take that" lol

22:55 <wdsmia> btw you notice the langage script doesnt catch me... i wrote it :)

22:56 <KathrynM> huh?

22:56 <KathrynM> oh

22:56 <KathrynM> I was cooking lucnh

22:57 <KathrynM> And yes, I am the perfect woman :D

22:57 <wdsmia> lol

22:57 <PovAddict>

22:57 <Romulus> Title: QDB: Quote #492262 (at

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23:33 <PovAddict> well, g2g

23:34 <PovAddict> cya on Monday (yep Monday)

23:36 <zombie67> wow

23:36 <zombie67> cya

23:36 <PovAddict> oh wait I have BURP work due tomorrow

23:36 * PovAddict suspends other projects

23:36 <zombie67> BOINC will manage it

23:37 <PovAddict> I'm not leaving the computer running these four days

23:37 <zombie67> ?

23:37 <PovAddict> BOINC will *not* manage it

23:37 <zombie67> blasphemy!

23:37 <PovAddict> I shut down now, and on Monday turn computer back on, and they're all already late

23:38 <PovAddict> zomg is that HAIL?

23:38 <PovAddict> brb

23:38 <zombie67> don't turn off your machine

23:38 <KathrynM> lol

23:38 <PovAddict> looks like just bigger drops

23:38 <KathrynM> Gotta go back to w#(*

23:38 <KathrynM> laterz

23:38 <zombie67> bummer

23:38 <KathrynM> Have fun where ever your going PovAddict

23:38 <PovAddict> zombie67: we had some lightning today

23:38 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

23:38 <zombie67> just finished up 8:38 PM

23:39 <zombie67> cool!

23:39 <Romulus> I am not to think of trac #570?

23:39 <PovAddict> and now the TV doesn't work

23:39 <zombie67> good power strips are a must

23:39 <PovAddict> turning the TV on makes the GFI jump, so it's screwed

23:40 <PovAddict> I don't want the computer to end up similarly while I'm out

23:40 <zombie67> find a non-gfi plug.

23:40 <PovAddict> erm

23:40 <PovAddict> no

23:40 <zombie67> so get a good surge protector

23:40 <PovAddict> if turning the TV on makes the GFI jump, it means something in the TV broke, and it's shorting or something

23:40 <zombie67> that was a joke

23:41 <PovAddict> let's get a non-gfi plug, turn TV on, and watch it explode :)

23:41 <PovAddict> may be fun

23:41 <zombie67> that's what the circuit breaker is for

23:47 <zombie67> Also, you being at home, or not being at home makes no difference when it comes to lightning strikes.  You being there will not save it,

23:47 <PovAddict> shutting down on a storm, before it gets worse

23:48 <zombie67> did you shut down today when the lightning hit your TV?

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